Official Justice League Status Update Thread

[The Major]

i think they're going with GL right? in place of JL?

From what I've gathered that's got the best shot at adaption now JL is back in development hell.

You've got as good a guess as me whether it will actually get greenlit.

[Webhead2006]

Yea right now the heroes that look more likely to get a film out within 2010-2012 range are green lantern and green arrow if they are as indeed indicted to be a higher priority with wb/dc to actually happen. If the films are anything like the talks about them have been i would totally be down to seeing them.

[The Major]

Agreed.

I'd expect GL to get greenlit before GA.

Maybe WB wants to use Watchmen as a test for GL. Then GL could be a test for Green Arrow.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i do see gl as the number one choice right now of possibly happening and i hope it does happen cause the script review sounds good and if they can make a good quality film and faithfully adapted the character we could have another hit like iron man was for marvel. Then i do see GA being number two in happening and like ironman who is a 2nd teir character for marvel GA is a good equvialent to iron man and if done in a good way could probably make a good profit. The supermax film sounds like a great and interesting twist on superhero films and i would love to see it happen. Then we come to the watchmen and right now we have that whole legal tie up between wb who had the film and fox who had the rights to make a film out of it since the early 90s but passed on it. I hope the film comes out and fox execs dont get they grummy hands on it and ruin what looks to be a sure fire hit.

[The Major]

Web:

Fox getting their hands on it could be a sacrifice WB needs to make to get Watchmen out.

They could soak those losses if Watchmen is good enough to get GL made and that proves to be a hit which could get lesser properties through. All which aren't linked to Fox.

I do hope they find a way to release Watchmen in any case. I really want to see that movie.

[Showtime]

They'll settle, it will cost WB as I said, but they'll settle. It is too far along at this point. They will reach some kind of agreement.

I think Green Lantern could be taking the place of both JL and Superman at this point depending on what happens at WB.

[dnno1]

Did you read the most recent article out of Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990722.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)? Fox doesn't want a settlement. They don't want to see the picture released at all.

[Evil Twin]

Fox is posturing.

Ultimately, Fox will lose the suit or WB will just cut them a check. Getting an injunction, especially since Fox waited so long to file, is extremely difficult. Even if they win, all they'll get is damages.

[The Major]

They'll settle, it will cost WB as I said, but they'll settle. It is too far along at this point. They will reach some kind of agreement.

I think Green Lantern could be taking the place of both JL and Superman at this point depending on what happens at WB.

Agreed.

[I Am The Knight]

God I hate Fox. They better not f*** with Watchmen too much :csad:

[Showtime]

Did you read the most recent article out of Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990722.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)? Fox doesn't want a settlement. They don't want to see the picture released at all.

...and? :huh:

Why do you even bother sporting a DC Comics avatar when you seem to want every WB/DC movie to feel besides Justice League? :o

[TheVileOne]

Fox isn't going to stop the release of the picture. It will get released no matter what. It doesn't matter what Fox wants.

[jmc]

Fox just want a share of the spoils for Watchmen, they don't want it not to be released, all they're doing is just puffing their chest at the moment, nothing else, it's a only thinly veiled threat to make sure WB are listening.

[darthhalen]

Showtime-I have been wondering with the progress of a Green Lantern and what logic tells you would be for a 2010 release, where does that leave some other possible releases. I'm asking for your opinion based on what you know at this point. Could WB release two DC characters a year, or are we looking at one per year at best?
One final question, you say GL is looking better than a Supermax/GA movie, but where does that leave a Shazam movie that was under New Line? Could WB release Two in a year, one under WB the other under New Line? Just curious and wanting your insightful opinion.

[TheVileOne]

But they do make comic book movies.

So what? You feed on misinformation just like Uncle Baghdad Bingo Bob with regards to Justice League.

[Showtime]

Showtime-I have been wondering with the progress of a Green Lantern and what logic tells you would be for a 2010 release, where does that leave some other possible releases. I'm asking for your opinion based on what you know at this point. Could WB release two DC characters a year, or are we looking at one per year at best?
One final question, you say GL is looking better than a Supermax/GA movie, but where does that leave a Shazam movie that was under New Line? Could WB release Two in a year, one under WB the other under New Line? Just curious and wanting your insightful opinion.

I think their aim is two comic book related properties, at the most two. Shazam was once thought to be at the front, not sure what happened with it. The New Line thing is interesting.

[The Major]

Showtime:

Not sure whether it's true or not but I heard on another forum here that the reason Shazam lost momentum was thanks to the writer's strike.

The writer was very busy catching up on other projects so Shazam had to wait until he can finish a new draft.

[darthhalen]

Showtime-thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear the goal would be two films per year. I was hoping that would be the case. To me, a Shazam movie would work REALLY well around the holidays, say a Thanksgiving release. Plus, I really want to see Shazam. Lets hope WB really does follow through with some kind of announcement within the month. Keeping fingers crossed.

[TheVileOne]

Shazam wasn't really going anywhere before the strike either though.

[JokerLedger]

Excuse me but... What's the point of having this forum anymore? The Justice League project is dead, right? Might as well put Green Lantern in it's place :)

[protocida]

The Justice League movie is alive until a real important Warner figura come up and spill the beans: ''Not going to happen now''. :cwink:

[Showtime]

Well Noveck sort of said that they are waiting until things are right?

[Gotham]

Well Noveck sort of said that they are waiting until things are right?

I'm surprised that the writers haven't said anything.

[Showtime]

They aren't that talkative...

[JokerLedger]

I thought it was already confirmed that George Miller's version was dead and not going to happen.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=5322

There will be a JL movie eventually but that's probably waaaaaaaaay down the road.

[Gotham]

I thought it was already confirmed that George Miller's version was dead and not going to happen.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=5322

There will be a JL movie eventually but that's probably waaaaaaaaay down the road.

Well, it wasn't officially confirmed. And then Alan Horn said there was still a lot of interest in it.

[JokerLedger]

George Miller's Justice League with Megan Gale and Arnie Hammer?

[Gotham]

George Miller's Justice League with Megan Gale and Arnie Hammer?

He just said Justice League. But I thought he was talking about George Miller's version. Maybe not?

[FlawlessVictory]

He just said Justice League. But I thought he was talking about George Miller's version. Maybe not?

The Variety article that just recently came out on how WB plans on handling their superhero projects states that the studio remains interested in a JLA movie whether that be in a year or ten years from now. Horn stressed the importance of getting everything right first, getting all their ducks lined up in a row. And he stated this project and the characters involved and how they all intersect requires a lot of research. Basically, expect the movie, if it ever happens, later then sooner.

[Webhead2006]

Hopefully they will take it seriously and treat it in a good way.

[The Major]

Preferably after they've gotten good solo movies for the primary lesser franchises.

[Obsidian Idea]

They better put a move on their plans because "father time" is working against them; I mean how much longer till people grow tired of superhero/comic book movies in general. The public gets tired with certain genres fast nowadays...

[The Major]

They better put a move on their plans because "father time" is working against them; I mean how much longer till people grow tired of superhero/comic book movies in general.

They'll grow tired the second all the adaptions turn to crap.

As long as the quality stays up there will be interest.

The public gets tired with certain genres fast nowadays...

That can't be avoided, just delayed.

[jmc]

The Superhero genre will eventually go the way of the Musical and the Western, but not for at least the next 10-15 years, it's just hit it's Golden Age, there is plenty of time to do any number of films between now and then, no need to rush things, otherwise you'll end up with crap cinema.

[Obsidian Idea]

Oh I agree whole-heartedly jmc; the last thing I want is any rushed DC films. I'm just worried that the demand for these movies might not be here for too much longer. We comic-geeks, admirers and readers can wait forever but it's more than just about pleasing us; the greater public has to have a desire to see these movies too. Hopefully when we get our JLA it'll blow all other comic book team movies out of the atomsphere and garner a sequel or two.

[dnno1]

...Is that from MK vs DC? Captain Marvel vs Catwoman?

Yes, and so are these:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/kangvsgreen2jpg_595.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/kangvsgreenjpg_595.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/greenvstsungjpg_595.jpg

This one is for theVileOne and all the other Batman fans out there:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/scorpionvsjokerjpg_595.jpg

Post envy. :csad:

Yes, indeed.

[Showtime]

Theres nothing there?

[Showtime]

WELL, NZ may have Peter Jackson but we have George Miller. The worst-kept secret in Sydney has been confirmed: Happy Feet2, the sequel to Miller's animated hit, is in production. Dr D Studios, the Kennedy Miller Mitchell joint venture with Omnilab, has announced on industry bulletin boards that it is hiring. Its website even points to a "director of recruitology". Just to spice things up, it also mentions it's in pre-production on the seemingly immortal Justice League of America, Babe3 and Fury Road, or what most will know of as Mad Max 4.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24208426-16947,00.html

[Gotham]

Guess he's full steam ahead on Happy Feet 2 now, then?

[jmc]

Certainly look as such, was unaware Babe 3 was on the cards.

[FlawlessVictory]

Happy Feet 2, Babe 3 and Mad Max 4. Miller sure is pretty original with the projects in his pipeline. :dry:

[Evil Twin]

It wouldn't actually surprise me if WB and George Miller have simply decided to reshuffle their schedule.

Something like

Happy Feet 2

Mad Max 4 (also works to help convince fanboys that he still has his serious action chops)

Babe 3

JLA (to come out after Nolan's next Batman film and avoid conflict)

[dnno1]

Yes, and so are these:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/kangvsgreen2jpg_595.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/kangvsgreenjpg_595.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/greenvstsungjpg_595.jpg

This one is for theVileOne and all the other Batman fans out there:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/scorpionvsjokerjpg_595.jpg



Yes, indeed.

Theres nothing there?

That's funny, I see something. Try hitting the refresh button.

[Showtime]

Weird. Now I see them. Thanks for sharing.

I definately need to pick up that game.

[TheVileOne]

Midway was smart enough to use Hal Jordan. They know who fans want to play as.

[I Am The Knight]

Happy Feet 2, Babe 3 and Mad Max 4. Miller sure is pretty original with the projects in his pipeline. :dry:

Tell me about it. Talk about playing it safe :dry: :hehe:

[Double Down]

Midway was smart enough to use Hal Jordan. They know who fans want to play as.

Agreed, but how hard would it be for them to make it so you could also play as John Stewart, Kyle Rayner or Guy Gardner? If they have already created the Green Lantern template, isn't this an easy change they could make? I'm just wondering.

[The Major]

Tell me about it. Talk about playing it safe :dry: :hehe:

Sequels don't bother me.

If they have a good stories to tell I don't see why film makers shouldn't do it.

[dnno1]

Agreed, but how hard would it be for them to make it so you could also play as John Stewart, Kyle Rayner or Guy Gardner? If they have already created the Green Lantern template, isn't this an easy change they could make? I'm just wondering.

That could be a download away.

[I Am The Knight]

Sequels don't bother me.

If they have a good stories to tell I don't see why film makers shouldn't do it.

Oh, I agree. But he's only doing sequels?

[The Major]

Oh, I agree. But he's only doing sequels?

He could just want to do them at this point. It's going to take years to complete them.

It does take a long time to make films like that so he could just be doing these now which could let him move on to entirely new projects when they are finished.

[Double Down]

That could be a download away.

I was wondering the same thing about Batman/Nightwing, Superman/Supergirl and the various Flashes.

[Dark Knight]

Excuse me but... What's the point of having this forum anymore? The Justice League project is dead, right? Might as well put Green Lantern in it's place :)



I agree....bring on Green Lantern!

[Dark Knight]

:up: :gl:

[biolumen]

He could just want to do them at this point. It's going to take years to complete them.

It does take a long time to make films like that so he could just be doing these now which could let him move on to entirely new projects when they are finished.

Nevertheless, it's still disappointing that he isn't doing something that's genuinely original. With the exception of Babe 3, they look like safe bets and Warners is probably pretty high on them, esp. HF2. It's also likely they would qualify for that 40% offset, something a GL film wouldn't.

[protocida]

I Would bet in ''Happy Feet 2'', then ''Justice League of America'', then ''Max Max 4'', then ''Babe 3''.

[TheVileOne]

I would bet on Justice League not happening for Miller.

[protocida]

It will. You'll see. I'll show ya.

[dnno1]

I was wondering the same thing about Batman/Nightwing, Superman/Supergirl and the various Flashes.

I guess in your case it would be a DoubleDownload away. :woot:

[Showtime]

Maybe unlockables?

[BATZARRO WWD]

Actually, I don't see Babe 3 happening.

[I Am The Knight]

Unlockables makes sense.

In the JLH game you actually had to buy them.

[dnno1]

Maybe unlockables?

I think they did hint at unlockables (like costumes and such) and characters that would be in the game but not playable, but they also specifically said that there would be downloadable content.

[dnno1]

I am still hearing that there may be a screen actors strike next month that may shut down the fall TV season and halt film productions (again). Let's hope that it doesn't happen.

[biolumen]

I predict that the SAG elections being held in late Sept will result in the hardliners who currently lead the union by a slim margin being ousted from power. The new leaders will then likely put AMPTP's offer to a membership vote soon after. Whether it's agreed to or not is up for debate, but I still don't think there's enough support (>75%) for a strike.

[jabbatheridge]

I would bet on Justice League not happening for Miller.

I agree, especially after what happened with Man Of Steel yesterday, with all the upheavals on DC properties at the moment on the WB, this shakey adaptation seems likely to be next on the chopping block (at least to me anyway). Actually I don't think it's a bad thing for Warners to rethink both the future of the Superman franchise and Justice League. Possible reboots may serve the long term good of the franchise far better than releasing a half assed movie now.

[Double Down]

I guess in your case it would be a DoubleDownload away. :woot:

:yay::yay::yay:

[Showtime]

Unlockables makes sense.

In the JLH game you actually had to buy them.

I remember that, I kind of liked that game just for the amount of unlockables. It was just a button masher.

I think they did hint at unlockables (like costumes and such) and characters that would be in the game but not playable, but they also specifically said that there would be downloadable content.

Sounds great. What systems?

Actually, I don't see Babe 3 happening.

Whys that?

[protocida]

I Doubt George Miller won't direct the Justice League movie. The Warner executives loved the screenplay and the concepts, just like the actors. I Don't think they would trash it now.

[Showtime]

Well he is moving on to other projects Happy Feet 2 is "in production", not pre-production. Also, some sources are saying he is already off...

[The Major]

I Doubt George Miller won't direct the Justice League movie. The Warner executives loved the screenplay and the concepts, just like the actors. I Don't think they would trash it now.

Wasn't WB on two minds with JL? One faction loved it but the other didn't?

[TheVileOne]

Did you see Babe 2? the movie freaking bombed.

[Showtime]

Wasn't WB on two minds with JL? One faction loved it but the other didn't?

Pretty much. Same with Supes.

[Showtime]

Did you see Babe 2? the movie freaking bombed.

Who are you asking?

[I Am The Knight]

Does it matter?

I don't see why he's doing a Babe 3. Great, now there will be a trilogy about pigs. But, I think that after doing Happy Feet 2, he should go back to a small live action film.

[Showtime]

Does it matter?

I don't see why he's doing a Babe 3. Great, now there will be a trilogy about pigs. But, I think that after doing Happy Feet 2, he should go back to a small live action film.

Yes?

I personally don't really care what George Miller directs to tell you the truth. I'm sure his career will be fine either way.

[TheVileOne]

Justice League wasn't exactly going to be original material either.

[I Am The Knight]

Well it wasn't a sequel to anything, either. That's something. Unless you count the whole BB connection as some kind of vague sequel :hehe:

[Dark Knight]

Wasn't WB on two minds with JL? One faction loved it but the other didn't?



This is what I think is going on at WB's....

It's another one of those power situations with certain factions within WB's having there own little hidden agendas again.

Why am I not surprised....and it's a good bet that those same people at WB's who are against a Singer sequel are the same clowns who wanted the Miller Justice League film that would have stepped on the toes and disrespected what Nolan has done with Batman.

I don't trust that particular faction at all! :cmad:

[TheVileOne]

I'm not sure how anything gets done at WB at all really. There was the whole power struggle situation with Batman/Superman and JJ Abrams Superman. That ended with Lorenzo DiBonaventura leaving WB.

Now there was this whole thing with JL, Batman, and everything else. It's nuts.

This is exactly why they need a DC Films or Studios wing of WB.

[protocida]

This is what I think is going on at WB's....

It's another one of those power situations with certain factions within WB's having there own little hidden agendas again.

Why am I not surprised....and it's a good bet that those same people at WB's who are against a Singer sequel are the same clowns who wanted the Miller Justice League film that would have stepped on the toes and disrespected what Nolan has done with Batman.

I don't trust that particular faction at all! :cmad:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALMIGHY! :whatever:

Christopher Nolan is not a god. He is just a extraordinary director that made two incredible batman movies and is probably making a third one. But he is not god. What he made with batman is not supreme. Batman's not going to be the gritty tech-criminologist Nolan uses forever. He is going to appear on other movies, will they be Justice League ones of new individuals. So, stop saying JLA would disrespecte Nolan's batman. Someone will, if not soon, later.

And remembering Justice League is problably comming out after ''Shadow of the Knight'', so, it's not stepping in the toes because Nolan and Bale will alredy be out making their other movies!

Ok? Ok.

OBS: If i recall correctly, the major part of the executives liked the script. There we're two factions about the making of it, because of the WGA strike and the australian taxes.

[TheVileOne]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALMIGHY! :whatever:

Christopher Nolan is not a god. He is just a extraordinary director that made two incredible batman movies and is probably making a third one. But he is not god. What he made with batman is not supreme. Batman's not going to be the gritty tech-criminologist Nolan uses forever. He is going to appear on other movies, will they be Justice League ones of new individuals. So, stop saying JLA would disrespecte Nolan's batman. Someone will, if not soon, later.

And remembering Justice League is problably comming out after ''Shadow of the Knight'', so, it's not stepping in the toes because Nolan and Bale will alredy be out making their other movies!

Ok? Ok.

OBS: If i recall correctly, the major part of the executives liked the script. There we're two factions about the making of it, because of the WGA strike and the australian taxes.

Hopefully it will be Bale as Batman in whatever Justice League movie they make :D .

[protocida]

Don't count on it, bub. He won't do it without Nolan, and Nolan don't want to make superhero movies besides Batman.

[TheVileOne]

Rubbish, just like the non-existent Justice League movie.

[The Major]

Don't count on it, bub. He won't do it without Nolan, and Nolan don't want to make superhero movies besides Batman.

He really said that? That would be a shame. Nolan would be perfect for Kate Spencer's Manhunter, Helena Bertinelli's Huntress, Daredevil, Green Arrow, Moon Knight, Selina Kyle's Catwoman and Black Widow.

[protocida]

I'm pretty sure he did. He said he had no interest on costumed heroes like Superman or Flash. His interest on Batman was because the Dark Knight was grittier and could have a very dark and realistic movie.

[The Major]

I'm pretty sure he did. He said he had no interest on costumed heroes like Superman or Flash. His interest on Batman was because the Dark Knight was grittier and could have a very dark and realistic movie.

How much does he know about comics? It could be he simply doesn't realize the industry has plenty of heroes that can be just as realistic as Batman.

Some of them, like Green Arrow and Black Widow, aren't realistic all the time, of course. But they can still work in comics like that. He just needs to find the right creator runs who have done it. BW is very realistic in Richard K. Morgan's mini-series Homecoming and GA is during Mike Grell's tenure on the title.

Spencer's Manhunter, MK and numerous others have always been very realistic.

Black Panther could work in a more realistic style like Nolan's based off Priest's run on the title.

[TheVileOne]

I get tired of all the realism crap I keep hearing.

Batman is still a fantasy story. And they made the Joker more of an elemental character rather than one with a sympathetic backstory, but it was still a nuanced amazing character.

[protocida]

Who's talking about the Joker? :huh:

[TheVileOne]

It doesn't matter. I'm sick of all the it's too realistic to be connected to this or that bs.

[dnno1]

I get tired of all the realism crap I keep hearing.

Batman is still a fantasy story. And they made the Joker more of an elemental character rather than one with a sympathetic backstory, but it was still a nuanced amazing character.

It doesn't matter. I'm sick of all the it's too realistic to be connected to this or that bs.

The consensus among both fans and non fans is that the Nolan series of Batman films are more realistic because neither the villians or the heroes in the film have any super powers and nothing that happened in the film was out of the ordinary of anything that could or would happen in real life (excepting for maybe a successful roof jump from an armored vehicle). This is the fact of the matter, and I think your banter about being sick is not going to change what the consensus belife is.

[dnno1]

I'm pretty sure he did. He said he had no interest on costumed heroes like Superman or Flash. His interest on Batman was because the Dark Knight was grittier and could have a very dark and realistic movie.

I heard a rumor that Marvel may want to make him an offer to do a picture on one of their properties. I wonder if he will still be disinteresed.

[protocida]

Batman's movies made by Nolan won't fit in to the Justice League universe.

He must be recasted. Why is it so hard to accept?

[Batgort]

i got news for ya, nolan never said he would never ever make another superhero movie, stop making stuff up

[protocida]

I'm pretty sure he did say that he had no interest in making another costumed superhero movie. You are the one saying he would never EVER. Money makes people change. But he said so. I recall it.

[Dark Knight]

I'm not sure how anything gets done at WB at all really. There was the whole power struggle situation with Batman/Superman and JJ Abrams Superman. That ended with Lorenzo DiBonaventura leaving WB.

Now there was this whole thing with JL, Batman, and everything else. It's nuts.

This is exactly why they need a DC Films or Studios wing of WB.



Exactly!

[Showtime]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALMIGHY! :whatever:

Christopher Nolan is not a god. He is just a extraordinary director that made two incredible batman movies and is probably making a third one. But he is not god. What he made with batman is not supreme. Batman's not going to be the gritty tech-criminologist Nolan uses forever. He is going to appear on other movies, will they be Justice League ones of new individuals. So, stop saying JLA would disrespecte Nolan's batman. Someone will, if not soon, later.

George Miller isn't "God" either the last time I checked? So if he doesn't do Justice League, it isn't that big of a suprise. He is only a talented director as well right?

[Showtime]

I'm pretty sure he did say that he had no interest in making another costumed superhero movie. You are the one saying he would never EVER. Money makes people change. But he said so. I recall it.

Link?

[protocida]

Yes, George Miller is only a great director as well. I'm not talking about the Justice League movie here, i'm talking about the fact that some people don't acept other Batman that not Bale and other directyor that not Nolan.

[TheVileOne]

After The Dark Knight you shouldn't.

[GreenKToo]

Well, blame the public for making TDK so successful. Otherwise, J.L. would prolly be gearing up right about now.

[Double Down]

Thanks, public.

[Showtime]

Yes, George Miller is only a great director as well. I'm not talking about the Justice League movie here, i'm talking about the fact that some people don't acept other Batman that not Bale and other directyor that not Nolan.

Well this is the Justice League forum?

Why would people accept another Batman that isn't Bale at this point, when Bale is Batman to everybody now?

[protocida]

Bale is Batman to everybody NOW.

After the third movie, he's out, and will be replaced, just like Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney.

[dnno1]

I'll be honest with you. After seeing so many different actors play the character, I don't think any one could be typcasted as Batman.

[Double Down]

I'll be honest with you. After seeing so many different actors play the character, I don't think any one could be typcasted as Batman.

Adam West begs to differ.

[Showtime]

Bale is Batman to everybody NOW.

After the third movie, he's out, and will be replaced, just like Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney.

Of course, but what does that have to do with George Miller's Justice League happening?

[protocida]

Maybe because it's comming after the third Batman movie, will have Batman in it and it will be another actor playing him?

[dnno1]

After The Dark Knight you shouldn't.

Once again you are being premature. Yes, the film has gotten great reviews and box office numbers, but it has not yet received any awards or nomnations of merit for it efforts. Furthermore, just because TDK did so well at the box office, it doesn't mean that we should break the mold as you are insinuating. There are a lot of great directors out ther (George Miller being one of them) that have taken lesser tallent and made them household names and icons. I don't see that in Chris Nolan.

[Showtime]

Maybe because it's comming after the third Batman movie, will have Batman in it and it will be another actor playing him?

Maybe, maybe not.

[dnno1]

Adam West begs to differ.

I could have sworn that I saw several users post that Bale was Batman (there have been folks that argue that Keaton is). I don't think West's typcasting applies anymore.

[Double Down]

I could have sworn that I saw several users post that Bale was Batman (there have been folks that argue that Keaton is). I don't think West's typcasting applies anymore.

I was saying that he got typecast.

[dnno1]

I was saying that he got typecast.

And I said "After seeing so many different actors play the character, I don't think any one could be typcasted as Batman." That was more than 30 years ago and since 1989 he has done plenty of other things besides Batman.

[Double Down]

If you say someone got "typecasted as Batman," that means people don't think that actor can play anyone but Batman. That happened to Adam West.

[Nightwing1977]

Agreed, but how hard would it be for them to make it so you could also play as John Stewart, Kyle Rayner or Guy Gardner? If they have already created the Green Lantern template, isn't this an easy change they could make? I'm just wondering.

If it was up to me, I would make several of GL unlockables by highlighting Hal Jordan on the player selection screen & you push one of the buttons that pick a different GL instead of a different look for Hal. Kinda like hitting one of the 6 buttons on Street Fighters 2: Turbo Edition (or that was Super Street Fighters 2: The New Warriors?) that give your character a new colors of the same outfit. :)

[The Major]

If you say someone got "typecasted as Batman," that means people don't think that actor can play anyone but Batman. That happened to Adam West.

I don't think that will happen to the other Batman actors.

Did Adam West have the type of resume the other Batman actors did before they got the role? They all were veteran actors. Some of them were very known to the public.

Did he even come close to their acting talent?

[Double Down]

Whether it does happen has little to do with whether it has happenend. But, geez, it was just an aside. I know the movie is dead, but there has to be something else to talk about.

[dnno1]

If you say someone got "typecasted as Batman," that means people don't think that actor can play anyone but Batman. That happened to Adam West.

The truth of the matter is he did play other roles (even softcore) - especially since 1990 - and he has done some voiceover work. Nobody is saying that this guy is Batman or could play Batman now.

[Double Down]

You are truly in your own mindspace, my young friend.

[Double Down]

Maybe this will distract you:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/remixof1983/mkdc/mkdc005.jpg

[I Am The Knight]

Ugh. The minute I saw that screencap, that awful techno Mortal Kombat theme started playing in my head.

[Double Down]

Ugh. The minute I saw that screencap, that awful techno Mortal Kombat theme started playing in my head.

Really? I had music going through my head of a different sort.

[Double Down]

And no, it wasn't the Batman theme.

[The Major]

Maybe this will distract you:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/remixof1983/mkdc/mkdc005.jpg

Are they acting trying to bring back memories of Halle Berry's Catwoman with this game?

Thats what I thought of when I saw that Catwoman. :(

They should have used her redesigned suit Brubaker and Cooke made instead.

[I Am The Knight]

That suit IS awful. She looks like an 80's vampiress. Especially with those fangs :hehe:

That little headshot of Superman, though, is a complete and utter Win for me :yay:

[TheVileOne]

Alright. One down one to go.

Now that the FF forums are DEAD, it's time for Justice League next :D .

[dnno1]

And no, it wasn't the Batman theme.

Maybe not, but I bet it was something like this:

T1uv-w5quH4

[jabbatheridge]

I'm not trying to troll, or start any kind of arguement here, but I don't get this mentality that just because Nolan, Ledger and Bale made an amazing Batman movie (and it was an amazing Batman movie) that nobody else can ever make another Batman film. I mean The Dark Knight Returns is an amazing Batman graphic novel, but does that mean nobody else can ever write an amazing Batman graphic novel? Weren't you guys all Batman fans before TDK? So someone else must've done an amazing Batman story, be it in comic books, films or animation before to win your allegiance in the first place, right?

I'm not knocking anyone who loves TDK (God knows I did too) but I'm just trying to point out, I'm a Batman fan first and a Nolan, Ledger and Bale fan second. I think they did an incredible job, but then so did the crew behind BTAS, proof that other people can write brilliant Batman stories as well. I think some people who loved the movie are looking back with rose tinted glass and that over time this effect will wear off.

[Double Down]

This effect happens. At one time, Superman:The Movie could never be touched. X-Men 2 and Spider-Man 2 each were touted as "the greatest comic book movie" ever made. Now it's The Dark Knight's turn. Somewhere down the line, something is likely to top TDK.

[Showtime]

I could have sworn that I saw several users post that Bale was Batman (there have been folks that argue that Keaton is). I don't think West's typcasting applies anymore.

Um...Bale is Batman...right now...

[FlawlessVictory]

Thanks to Ita-KalEl for posting this in the Superman forum:




Warner Bets on Fewer, Bigger Movies
By LAUREN A.E. SCHUKER
August 22, 2008; Page B1

Emboldened by this summer's success with "The Dark Knight," Warner Bros.' movie studio is setting a new strategy.

The Time Warner Inc. unit, like some other Hollywood studios, is planning to release fewer films into the crowded marketplace. But the studio, known for making more big, expensive movies than most rivals, plans to make even more of those -- some centered on properties from its DC Comics unit, such as Batman.

Warner Bros. Pictures Group President Jeff Robinov wants the studio to release as many as eight such movies a year by 2011. "The long-term goal of the studio is to take advantage of what has become a very global market by focusing on bigger films that require a bigger commitment," he says. Warner Bros. films released last year grossed $2 billion internationally, about 42% more than their $1.4 billion domestic take.

Mining the comic-book franchise is central to the success of Warner Bros.' strategy. Its lineup of "tent poles" -- Hollywood-speak for big movies that are the foundation of a studio's slate -- has thinned. Warner Bros. has been slow to capitalize on DC, and it now faces a rival in Marvel Entertainment Inc.'s Marvel Studios, the company behind box-office gusher "Iron Man."

Superhero films based on comic-book legends, like "The Dark Knight," have emerged as some of the strongest players in the global market, in part because they're natural candidates for tie-ups with consumer products and games that can also be marketed globally.

"Superheroes are more global than ever in today's commercial world, existing in 30 languages and in more than 60 countries," says Paul Levitz, president and publisher of DC Comics. The characters are "a world-wide export," he says.

Marvel's 'Iron Man,' was a big success at the box office. Warner has been slower to capitalize on its DC Comics characters.

"Films with our DC properties have the opportunity to support other divisions in the company in a way that our other movies don't," Mr. Robinov says, for example, with products such as a Superman game or toys. By 2011, Mr. Robinov plans for DC Comics to supply the material for up to two of the six to eight tent-pole films he hopes Warner Bros. will have in the pipeline by then.

While big ambitions can result in a huge payoff, they can also end in huge losses. Warner's car adventure "Speed Racer" bombed at the box office in May. The film, said to have cost as much as $150 million, has taken in only $43.9 million in the U.S. Some other big-budget Warner films, such as spy comedy "Get Smart," also have failed to meet expectations.

Earlier this year, Warner Bros. shut its two art-house labels, Picturehouse and Warner Independent Pictures. The studio currently releases 25 to 26 films a year. By 2010, Mr. Robinov plans to pare production to 20 to 22 movies a year.

A movie referred to internally as "Justice League of America," originally said to be for next summer, was planned as one of the studio's major releases. With that film, starring a superhero team, Warner hoped to spark interest in DC characters like Green Lantern who haven't yet attained the level of popularity of Batman. But script problems, among other things, have delayed the movie.

The studio said last week that "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," originally slated for November release, would come out next July -- on the same weekend that "The Dark Knight" opened this year. The Batman sequel made more than $150 million in the U.S. that weekend. "We just needed a July movie," said Alan Horn, president of the studio, at the time.

Warner Bros. also put on hold plans for another movie starring multiple superheroes -- known as "Batman vs. Superman" -- after the $215 million "Superman Returns," which had disappointing box-office returns, didn't please executives. "'Superman' didn't quite work as a film in the way that we wanted it to," says Mr. Robinov. "It didn't position the character the way he needed to be positioned." "Had 'Superman' worked in 2006, we would have had a movie for Christmas of this year or 2009," he adds. "But now the plan is just to reintroduce Superman without regard to a Batman and Superman movie at all."

One of the studio's other big releases planned for 2009, "Watchmen," is the subject of a high-profile copyright lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California by News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox.

Based on the premise that superheroes are real people grappling with their own problems, "Watchmen" is an apocalyptic vision of their world. Fox says it is seeking an injunction to enforce its copyright interest in the film. Last week, a federal judge ruled that it may have rights to the property. News Corp. is the parent of Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones & Co.

With "Batman vs. Superman" and "Justice League" stalled, Warner Bros. has quietly adopted Marvel's model of releasing a single film for each character, and then using those movies and their sequels to build up to a multicharacter film. "Along those lines, we have been developing every DC character that we own," Mr. Robinov says.

Like the recent Batman sequel -- which has become the highest-grossing film of the year thus far -- Mr. Robinov wants his next pack of superhero movies to be bathed in the same brooding tone as "The Dark Knight." Creatively, he sees exploring the evil side to characters as the key to unlocking some of Warner Bros.' DC properties. "We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," he says. That goes for the company's Superman franchise as well.

The studio is set to announce its plans for future DC movies in the next month. For now, though, it is focused on releasing four comic-book films in the next three years, including a third Batman film, a new film reintroducing Superman, and two movies focusing on other DC Comics characters. Movies featuring Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, and Wonder Woman are all in active development.

Many of the studio's directors credit Mr. Robinov for taking Warner Bros.' films in a darker and deeper direction. Christopher Nolan, who directed "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," says Mr. Robinov "really encouraged the logic of the villain" from "Batman Begins." That led to focusing heavily on the Joker in the sequel. "At the script stage, Jeff really wanted us to be very clear on the Joker's lack of purpose," he says.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121936107614461929.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[Webhead2006]

it was also posted over in the dc comics films section too earlier, it was a good read. So with them saying they are possibly looking to get 4 films done within the next few yrs thats batman 3(hopefully with nolan on board), green lantern(very likely to get "greenlit") then as i said over in that thread toss up between flash/green arrow(probably more likely to happen), and wonder woman. Since they have no clue what to do with supes right now.

[FlawlessVictory]

One thing is clear, a JL movie is a long ways away.

With "Batman vs. Superman" and "Justice League" stalled, Warner Bros. has quietly adopted Marvel's model of releasing a single film for each character, and then using those movies and their sequels to build up to a multicharacter film. "Along those lines, we have been developing every DC character that we own," Mr. Robinov says.

[The Major]

One thing is clear, a JL movie is a long ways away.

With "Batman vs. Superman" and "Justice League" stalled, Warner Bros. has quietly adopted Marvel's model of releasing a single film for each character, and then using those movies and their sequels to build up to a multicharacter film.

Excellent news.

"Along those lines, we have been developing every DC character that we own," Mr. Robinov says.


That's quite a lot of DC characters, Jeff. :D

[Showtime]

Well we might have the Justice League forums closed or moved and the Superman Forums revamped sooner rather then later it seems.

[bunk]

It's been a wild ride. *cues Green Day song*

[The Major]

Well we might have the Justice League forums closed or moved

Do you think most threads would be saved, Showtime? I'd hate to lose so much informative threads if, or rather when, the forum closes down.

and the Superman Forums revamped sooner rather then later it seems.

Yep.

[Showtime]

That is up to the big boss. He is in charge of what stays and what goes. He does ask for our input of course, which is why he is great to work for, but it is his call.

[The Major]

Showtime:

Thanks.

[protocida]

WTF?

Marvel's is releasing TWO Movies per year!

[biolumen]

Maybe a JLA movie in 10 years, if we're lucky. A dark and brooding JLA too, just like how everyone wants it.

[TheVileOne]

Super Hero Hype!

Tear Down This Forum! :bh:

One down, one to go. Fantastic Four down, now Justice League is next :word: .

[I Am The Knight]

Time to close the JLA boards, it seems. Oh well, it was fun :up:

[FlawlessVictory]

Maybe a JLA movie in 10 years, if we're lucky. A dark and brooding JLA too, just like how everyone wants it.

Yea, because everyone was clamoring for Miller's JL:Mortal.:down

[Webhead2006]

Its sad to see the jla threads go, how many threads are now in the dc comics thread is it just this one or a few others? And i do agree now with all this news it is the right time because if this is their plan to reboot superman, and get others characters like gl/ga or which ever they pick we probably wont be getting jla film to 2012-2015 range which does suck a little bit hopefully it will be better then what miller was going to do.

[TheVileOne]

Guys, it was the right thing to do.

It happened 7 months too late.

[FlawlessVictory]

^LOL, looks like you got your wish. :woot:

So long Justice League: Mortal! :hehe:

[Webhead2006]

Yea totally glad miller's jla is officially dead now, when ever they do plan to get it down in the next few years hopefully it will be taken in the right direction and all that.

[TheVileOne]

^LOL, looks like you got your wish. :woot:

So long Justice League: Mortal! :hehe:
It's like I was saying Flawless Victory, it is not only possible that the forum will shut down, it is ESSENTIAL. It was inevitable. Wishing had nothing to do with it :D .

The folding of the Justice League forums, 8/22/2008 will be a day long remembered in the history of this great message board, the Super Hero Hype. People will say, "Where were you when The Vile One said TEAR DOWN THIS FORUM!"

My biggest disappointment was that this project got as far as it did. Because at the end of the day, I think a Justice League movie is a great idea down the line. But in a time where Marvel is totally planning to have multiple plans converge, it sounds ridiculous to me that WB who owns everything can't do the same thing.

I'm disappointed they spent all this now WASTED time, money, and development on a movie that's now halted when it could've been moving on with Flash and Green Lantern. Movies that could be big hits, they just need to find that balance and the right execution. Iron Man's living proof that it can be done. It's not all just about Spider-man, Superman, Batman, and the X-men anymore.

[FaT_tONle]

JLA forums are dead... WOOT...

[Webhead2006]

Yea they totally did waste so much time with miller's jla which could have been getting the dokkin flash and berlanti green latern films off the ground quicker same with Goyer's green arrow film. Now with the death of miller's jla and the new direction wb wants to go with dc films. I really hope we get a much better superman reboot film, and finally see flash/green latern/green arrow films get off the ground. For me besides batman 3 and superman reboot. The likely other films will be gl/ga since development with them has been picking up steam lately were as flash/ww has been stalled for a long time.

[TheVileOne]

I don't think rebooting Superman is all that simple.

The Incredible Hulk is proof of this. Grant Morrison's BS doesn't cut it.

[The Major]

I don't think rebooting Superman is all that simple.

A sequel to SR wouldn't be either.

The Incredible Hulk is proof of this. Grant Morrison's BS doesn't cut it.

TIH isn't a good example of a reboot. Batman Begins is a good one.

[Webhead2006]

Well the only real problem with TIH was marvel didnt promote it that well to get people to know its totally different then the ang lee film and all that jazz.

[The Major]

Well the only real problem with TIH was marvel didnt promote it that well to get people to know its totally different then the ang lee film and all that jazz.
I agree.

It's just BB was a better reboot from my perspective. The public loved it and it got most of his money back I think and it got a sequel which did even better.

TIH is polarizing at best and did equally as well as the previous movie which was viewed as a failure. I liked the movie, actually.

Aren't Marvel thinking of rebooting it again?

[Katsuro]

TIH isn't a good example of a reboot. Batman Begins is a good one.

Remember, Batman Begins wasn't exactly a box office smash at first. It opened moderately, and didn't make it's money until word of mouth spread. Also, people didn't really get that the movie was a reboot right away. I heard countless "i thought Joker killed Batman's parents!" comments. Also, Who Wants to Be a Millionare asked "Which of these movies is a prequel", the answer was "Batman Begins".

People dont really get the concept of the reboot. I think as comic fans we're used to the idea of alternate continuities and whatnot, while the general public doesn't really care about that crap. People see a movie with the same characters as another movie and assume it's a sequel or a prequel. Or perhaps a remake.

Although maybe now that we've had a few of them, people will start to catch on. I guess it all depends on how they market it. If it's an origin movie, but isn't given a name that implies a prequel (like Batman Begins was), maybe people will catch on. I still think "Superman: Man of Steel" is the title they should go for. Then continue with a "Superman: _____" naming scheme.

[The Major]

Remember, Batman Begins wasn't exactly a box office smash at first. It opened moderately, and didn't make it's money until word of mouth spread.

It was still a box office smash even if it didn't start that way.


Also, people didn't really get that the movie was a reboot right away. I heard countless "i thought Joker killed Batman's parents!" comments. Also, Who Wants to Be a Millionare asked "Which of these movies is a prequel", the answer was "Batman Begins".

That didn't stop the movie from being a financial or critical success, though.

People dont really get the concept of the reboot. I think as comic fans we're used to the idea of alternate continuities and whatnot, while the general public doesn't really care about that crap. People see a movie with the same characters as another movie and assume it's a sequel or a prequel. Or perhaps a remake.

Although maybe now that we've had a few of them, people will start to catch on. I guess it all depends on how they market it. If it's an origin movie, but isn't given a name that implies a prequel (like Batman Begins was), maybe people will catch on. I still think "Superman: Man of Steel" is the title they should go for. Then continue with a "Superman: _____" naming scheme.

Agreed.

[Webhead2006]

I have not heard anything about that, latest reports i read they said it was a succesful film for them. We will likely not see a sequel to tih to maybe after avengers since im 2, thor, avengers/cap are higher on the list.

[The Major]

Agreed.

[Katsuro]

I have not heard anything about that, latest reports i read they said it was a succesful film for them. We will likely not see a sequel to tih to maybe after avengers since im 2, thor, avengers/cap are higher on the list.

Regardless of how succesful it was, the idea of another reboot is just idiotic. I mean, really? 3 Hulk films, all in a few years, in different continuities? The idea is just absurd. No way would they do that. People would just laugh at them.

There's no reason for it anyways. TIH didin't make a lot of money, and it wasn't considered the best movie ever, but it wasn't hated like the last Hulk. Most people I talked to about it liked the movie.

[Webhead2006]

YEa i totally liked the film and the direction they went in was totally better then the crap ang lee did in 2003. Yes it wasnt a smash hit like im/tdk but the only ones to blame is marvel not promoting it better like im/ and tdk for dc. Now if they did that and got the general audience to know its a restart like bb did for batman it probably would have made more money. They will likely give it a sequel but like i said i read its likely to happen after avengers since i believe the plan might be for hulk to be the threat in avengers for cap/im/thor to team up and all that then at the end he becomes a member.

[Katsuro]

Wait until Incredible Hulk hits DVD. I have a feeling it'll make up for it's poor box office there, at least partially.

[LazloSpeeker]

My mind is made up. The 'Justice League' movie has to have Bale as Batman. This will let the viewers and casual fans know who Batman really is in the spectrum of superheroes and give the film some funk 'n' personality. Unfortunately, I don't think Bale want's to be tied to the character for that long and nor should he be expected to.

It makes sense. To make a good film a solid base is needed, just like everything in life. Bale's Batman character is the perfect foundation/tent pole for this potential movie since we all know they won't follow the original material verbatim.

[The Major]

My mind is made up. The 'Justice League' movie has to have Bale as Batman. This will let the viewers and casual fans know who Batman really in the spectrum of superheroes and give the film some funk 'n' personality.

You think a movie with a sexy Amazon empowered by the Greek gods which happens to be the best fighter from an ancient immortal society of warriors, a space cop with a weapon which can create anything he can think of, a funny guy who is a super-hero all the time with speed powers that was a sidekick to another hero with the same powers for years, Superman and a shape-shifting, telepathic alien that policed his own race before he came to Earth who is the ultimate outsider wouldn't be interesting to watch interact?

[LazloSpeeker]

You think a movie with a sexy Amazon empowered by the Greek gods which happens to be the best fighter from an ancient immortal society of warriors, a space cop with a weapon which can create anything he can think of, a funny guy who is a super-hero all the time with speed powers that was a sidekick to another hero with the same powers for years, Superman and a shape-shifting, telepathic alien who is the ultimate outsider who is the last survivor of a race on Mars wouldn't be interesting to watch interact?

Too many characters, too much personality unless they make it a 180 minute movie. Waterworld show'd what a 3 hour action/adventure can be.:whatever:

Putting Bale's Batman in would make him the focal point for viewers because he is the most familiar. This, in result, would keep viewers from getting confused and trying to focus on Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter all at once. It's too much UNLESS you give the viewers a shaman of sorts - that shaman is Bale's Batman. Without a shaman I have serious doubts about this movie seeing a sequel.

The best course of action I see is use Bale's Batman and start the film out primarily focused on Batman for the heroes for the first 45 minutes or so. During the next 45 minutes slide the focus to Batman's relationship with two of the other characters, probably Superman and Wonder Woman. Superman and Wonder Woman would then be the focal point at about the 90 minute mark. For the final 45 minutes, the focus would turn to one of the other characters - Green Lantern, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, or Flash. It doesn't really matter which as long as you show the characters relationship to Superman and Wonder Woman and progress from that. Needless to say, the end result would be someone other than Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman coming out as the big hero and ready to support his own franchise.

Green Lantern would likely be the big hero for the first film. He could then take Bale's Batman's place as the foundation for the sequel. Then, show his relationship to Martian Manhunter and Aquaman and then their relationship with Flash. Flash is the hero of the sequel and the base for the next sequel.

It's a simple pyramid plan so I know it works... I have diagrams.

[The Major]

Too many characters, too much personality unless they make it a 180 minute movie. Waterworld show'd what a 3 hour action/adventure can be.

It would be a long movie. That's why its absolutely necessary they hire the right director, cast and get the best script so they can get the best quality and not waste time.

I agree there shouldn't be that many characters. The smaller the amount the better. I'd say 5 should be the limit, but I'd only use either Superman or Batman so another lesser known character can get the spotlight instead.

Putting Bale's Batman in would make him the focal point for viewers because he is the most familiar. This, in result, would keep viewers from getting confused and trying to focus on Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter all at once.

That's the beauty of ensemble films. The viewer will only see what the film makers want them to. They can give some more screen time and others less when the story requires it.

Having solo films would allow them to do this with the more established characters so they'll still know the basics without having to catch up in the film. They can just focus on the story then.

It's too much UNLESS you give the viewers a shaman of sorts - that shaman is Bale's Batman. Without a shaman I have serious doubts about this movie seeing a sequel.

Batman doesn't need to have that role. It could any character. Martian Manhunter would make sense to introduce in JL while the primary characters are already established in solo films.

This can allow the viewers not only to get to know him but to see how a new character they don't know much about interacts with the rest of them all through the film.

The best course of action I see is use Bale's Batman and start the film out primarily focused on Batman for the heroes for the first 45 minutes or so. During the next 45 minutes slide the focus to Batman's relationship with two of the other characters, probably Superman and Wonder Woman. Superman and Wonder Woman would then be the focal point at about the 90 minute mark. For the final 45 minutes, the focus would turn to one of the other characters - Green Lantern, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, or Flash. It doesn't really matter which as long as you show the characters relationship to Superman and Wonder Woman and progress from that.

I'd argue that they could just use one main character through the film and get a good result, as well.

Just my opinion.

Needless to say, the end result would be someone other than Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman coming out as the big hero and ready to support his own franchise.

That's if it succeeds. If it didn't they just killed off about 6 franchises before they got started. It would be decades, if ever, they could be revived again in solo films, cartoons or tv shows. If any character which appeared in the film wasn't liked by the public it could have the same negative result.

Thank god WB is using the Marvel method now. :D

[LazloSpeeker]

It would be a long movie. That's why its absolutely necessary they hire the right director, cast and get the best script so they can get the best quality and not waste time.

Putting Bale's Batman in would make him the focal point for viewers because he is the most familiar. This, in result, would keep viewers from getting confused and trying to focus on Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter all at once.

That's the beauty of ensemble films. The viewer will only see what the film makers want them to. They can give some higher screen time and others less when the story requires it.

Having solo films would allow them to do this with the more established characters so they'll still know the basics without having to catch up in the film. They can just focus on the story then.

Batman doesn't need to have that role. It could any character. Martian Manhunter would make sense to introduce in JL while the primary characters are already established in solo films.

This can allow the viewers not only to get to know him but to see how a new character they don't know much about interacts with the rest of them.

I'd argue that they could just use one main character through the film and get a good result, as well.

Just my opinion.


That's if it succeeds. If it didn't they just killed off about 6 franchises before they got started. It would be decades, if ever, they could be revived again in film, cartoon or tv shows.

Thank god WB is using the Marvel method now. :D

Ummm... I don't think you're understanding me. I say Batman as shaman only because he is most familiar, trust me people are going to get lost in this film without one. He doesn't really have to be the main character, like you said 'this will be an ensemble cast.' Batman just needs to open the film.

Here is what I see as the best course of action for the heroes storyline:

1. Open with Batman and how he becomes associated with the Justice League.

2. Set up Wonder Woman and Superman as Batman's supporting cast with the others as Wonder Woman's and Superman's support.

3. Establish the unique relationships between Batman/Superman and Batman/Wonder Woman.
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This should take about 45 minutes
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4. Gradually slide the focus off Batman and to Wonder Woman and Superman. The Batman character is strong enough to stand on his own, just putting him in the scenes will keep the audience believeing he is the main character - IF THEY WANT TO.

5. The climax of the film with Superman and Wonder Woman having the most relation to it while Batman is the one supporting both of them.

6. Superman and Wonder Woman are both forced to look to another character to 'finish the job.'
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Again, another 45 minutes.
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7. If most of the fans have not already accepted Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman as their main character the 'alternative' arises. Nothing should be changed at this point in regards to how Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are working in the film. This 4th hero simply begins working more closely with them, basically side by side.

8. The final conflict of the film begins with the 4th hero prepared to take center stage.

9. This other hero 'delivers the final blow' and becomes the big hero while many still see Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman as the main good guy.
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Final 45 minutes.
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That's basically the formula that will work best for all parties. Not a big deal, I just know it'll work pretty damn well.

[The Major]

Lazlo:

I can agree with that.

[TheVileOne]

People didn't get that Incredible Hulk was a reboot either. Universal and Marvel could've done a better job of explaining, but it's still so hard to do, to get an audience to understand that.

I'm not saying definitely do a direct sequel to Superman Returns. I'd honestly at least like it if they kept Brandon Routh, or at least considered it. But if they want a reboot, that would still confuse people.

I liked Singer's take, but it was the wrong thing to do in 2006 with Superman. People were not ready for that kind of Superman story. I'm happy at least at Comic Con in 06, Singer was positive about the movie and proud of it. And that's fine. So I guess you can say that Superman Returns is like the true Superman 3 or whatever. So maybe it is time to do a fresher take.

However, if you really are going to wipe the slate clean for real this time, just negotiate with Nolan and see if they could do anything about just saying something that the Batman movies and the newest Superman movie are happening in the same timeline.

[Steelsheen]

Well we might have the Justice League forums closed or moved and the Superman Forums revamped sooner rather then later it seems.
*sigh* oh well, it was good while it lasted i guess, but what about the threads? there were some really good threads and posts there.


Ummm... I don't think you're understanding me. I say Batman as shaman only because he is most familiar, trust me people are going to get lost in this film without one. He doesn't really have to be the main character, like you said 'this will be an ensemble cast.' Batman just needs to open the film.

Here is what I see as the best course of action for the heroes storyline:

1. Open with Batman and how he becomes associated with the Justice League.

2. Set up Wonder Woman and Superman as Batman's supporting cast with the others as Wonder Woman's and Superman's support.

3. Establish the unique relationships between Batman/Superman and Batman/Wonder Woman.
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This should take about 45 minutes
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4. Gradually slide the focus off Batman and to Wonder Woman and Superman. The Batman character is strong enough to stand on his own, just putting him in the scenes will keep the audience believeing he is the main character - IF THEY WANT TO.

5. The climax of the film with Superman and Wonder Woman having the most relation to it while Batman is the one supporting both of them.

6. Superman and Wonder Woman are both forced to look to another character to 'finish the job.'
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Again, another 45 minutes.
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7. If most of the fans have not already accepted Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman as their main character the 'alternative' arises. Nothing should be changed at this point in regards to how Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are working in the film. This 4th hero simply begins working more closely with them, basically side by side.

8. The final conflict of the film begins with the 4th hero prepared to take center stage.

9. This other hero 'delivers the final blow' and becomes the big hero while many still see Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman as the main good guy.
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Final 45 minutes.
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That's basically the formula that will work best for all parties. Not a big deal, I just know it'll work pretty damn well.
this sounds good.

i agree that Bale is needed to anchor any potential JL movie, or even if its just gonna be Superman-Batman, Bale has to play Batman. he's the guy most people will associate with now. the problem of course is that he has a tendency to get bored very quickly or feel trapped with the kinds of roles he plays and wants to keep branching out. i've said it before and i dont see this getting disproved anytime soon: it rests on Bale whether or not JLA or BvS will get happen.

[biolumen]

Maybe this is something and maybe this is nothing, but I found a few things that piqued my curiosity. First, something Steve at savesuperman.com had to say...

George Miller, now that JLA has officially been bumped to follow Marvel's lead, may be given Wonder Woman where he can groom his darling Megan Gale, but it's far from locked up.

http://www.savesuperman.com/node/174

Total B.S., right? That's what I thought. But then I found something else of interest.

A Little More Rope

Here's a little advance info on some of the guests coming up on Enough Rope with Andrew Denton.

August 25
Gold medal-winning wheelchair athlete, Kurt Fearnley on the eve of the Paralympics. And model Megan Gale talks about life on the catwalk and her move into acting.

September 1
Andrew is joined by Bill Bailey.

September 8
Andrew is joined by Australian film director George Miller.

September 15
Andrew speaks with Kevin 'Bloody' Wilson; and author Mahvish Khan, who wrote My Guantanamo Diary after her experience as a volunteer interpreter at Guantánamo Bay.

Enough Rope with Andrew Denton airs 9:35pm Mondays on ABC1.

Posted by David Knox at Saturday, August 23, 2008

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2008/08/little-more-rope.html

So, after being relatively quiet all these months, both Gale and Miller will be doing seperate talk show interviews just days after WB announces it's new plan. So yeah, they'll probably just be talking about what might've been, but there's also a (very) small possibility that there's some truth to what Steve says. I don't believe it, but who knows.

At the very least we'll get to hear something from them about JL:M. I hope someone posts a transcript of both interviews or puts them on youtube.

[jmc]

Maybe this is something and maybe this is nothing, but I found a few things that piqued my curiosity. First, something Steve at savesuperman.com had to say...



http://www.savesuperman.com/node/174

Total B.S., right? That's what I thought. But then I found something else of interest.



http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2008/08/little-more-rope.html

So, after being relatively quiet all these months, both Gale and Miller will be doing seperate talk show interviews just days after WB announces it's new plan. So yeah, they'll probably just be talking about what might've been, but there's also a (very) small possibility that there's some truth to what Steve says. I don't believe it, but who knows.

At the very least we'll get to hear something from them about JL:M. I hope someone posts a transcript of both interviews or puts them on youtube.

The show Enough Rope is filmed weeks in advanced, sometimes along much as 6 weeks unless it's special guest who's only in town briefly, if anything what ever they talk about could be outdated.

[Webhead2006]

i think steve at savesuperman was just kidding around with the miller/gale ww talk. Since right now silver still has the rights to that property.

[biolumen]

The show Enough Rope is filmed weeks in advanced, sometimes along much as 6 weeks unless it's special guest who's only in town briefly, if anything what ever they talk about could be outdated.

That could prove to be quite embarrassing for Gale, especially if she waxes on about looking forward to playing WW in JL:M.

Then again, both Gale and Miller might have been privy to WB intentions long before Robinov made his declarations to the WSJ, and these interviews were scheduled as a result of WB's decision.

Whatever the case, I'm very curious to hear what they have to say. Hopefully they'll give us some insight into the situation revolving around the movie before it's demise.

[jmc]

^ What could be even more embarrassing is that news like what WB are doing usually makes the headlines down here some 3-4 days after the announcement (yes, they are slow with news), meaning the very day the Gale interview (potentially talking about her acting career and the WW role) goes to air would be the same day as news of WB killing JL hits the presses. That's all kinds of awkward.

[biolumen]

I just find the timing of these interviews curious, especially that of Miller's. As far as I know, he hasn't given an in depth interview since early April, back when he was still fighting for the 40% offset. Now all of the sudden he'll be doing a one on one days after Robinov officially declares the movie dead? Hard to believe that's just coincidence.

Let me be clear, I don't believe for a minute Gale will be WW in a solo movie directed be Miller. Miller has his own films to make, and like Webhead said, Silver owns the rights to a WW movie atm. Plus WB will need to cast younger if they want an actress to play their WW in a JLA movie 10 years from now.

[jmc]

Like I said though, the interviews for that show are generally done weeks in advance and it was only a couple of weeks ago Gale was quoted in saying filming for JL was expected to start sometime next year. I think it's not so much coincidence as it is just shear bad timing for Gale and Miller. It was only 3 weeks ago Miller was praising Gale's acting ability and going on about the movie production being moved over sees. We'll find out, if she starts raving about JL and the role of WW, we'll know it was filmed prior to her having any knowledge of the films demise, it could be real cringe worthy TV, especially if the local media report WB revamp around the same time as the interview.

[biolumen]

Understood. I also recall, however, TheVileOne's questioning of those comments by Miller. He seemed to think that they were made some time ago and were only regurgitated for the fluff piece on Gale by the Herald's Confidential page. I didn't believe that was the case at the time, but in retrospect, he might have been right.

If possible, it would be great if you could catch these interviews and give us a first hand account of what was said.

[jmc]

Understood. I also recall, however, TheVileOne's questioning of those comments by Miller. He seemed to think that they were made some time ago and were only regurgitated for the fluff piece on Gale by the Herald's Confidential page. I didn't believe that was the case at the time, but in retrospect, he might have been right.

If possible, it would be great if you could catch these interviews and give us a first hand account of what was said.

I'm usually busy on the time it's on but will see if I can squeeze time to watch it, those unable to watch can always get the podcast versions on iTunes.

[TheVileOne]

Maybe this is something and maybe this is nothing, but I found a few things that piqued my curiosity. First, something Steve at savesuperman.com had to say...



http://www.savesuperman.com/node/174

Total B.S., right? That's what I thought. But then I found something else of interest.



http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2008/08/little-more-rope.html

So, after being relatively quiet all these months, both Gale and Miller will be doing seperate talk show interviews just days after WB announces it's new plan. So yeah, they'll probably just be talking about what might've been, but there's also a (very) small possibility that there's some truth to what Steve says. I don't believe it, but who knows.

At the very least we'll get to hear something from them about JL:M. I hope someone posts a transcript of both interviews or puts them on youtube.
Biolumen, sometimes I believe if anyone can get blood out of a stone, it would be you.

But . . . that would be ridiculous ;) .

[Showtime]

I just find the timing of these interviews curious, especially that of Miller's. As far as I know, he hasn't given an in depth interview since early April, back when he was still fighting for the 40% offset. Now all of the sudden he'll be doing a one on one days after Robinov officially declares the movie dead? Hard to believe that's just coincidence.

Let me be clear, I don't believe for a minute Gale will be WW in a solo movie directed be Miller. Miller has his own films to make, and like Webhead said, Silver owns the rights to a WW movie atm. Plus WB will need to cast younger if they want an actress to play their WW in a JLA movie 10 years from now.

If you don't think that Gale will be in a Wonder Woman movie, then what is so curious about it?

[protocida]

I Think they'll still use the concept arts from Weta and set up for the screenplay by Kiernan and Michelle Mulroney, directed by Miller, after the individual movies.

[GreenKToo]

I dunno. I think everything has changed now. The J.L. we will get eventually (maybe) will prolly have new writers, director, etc.
Who knows though.

[I Am The Knight]

I Think they'll still use the concept arts from Weta and set up for the screenplay by Kiernan and Michelle Mulroney, directed by Miller, after the individual movies.

You do realize that a JLA movie could be a long ways off right? Like up to 10 years from now, no? So why would they use an old script set on a different continuity than the one the solo movies are likely to depict? Not to mention that Miller, 10 years from now, would be 72 and probably not interested in directing "big" movies anymore.

[protocida]

They'll start four of the eight movies until 2011, and there's a big chance some of this movies are not related to DC Comics heroes, like the rumoreds ''Jonah Hex'', Sargt. Rock'', ''Y - The Last Man'', ''The Losers'' and etc...

10 Years? I Don't think so.

[Showtime]

You don't see it as a sign that the entire JL forum was closed down and threads were moved to DC Comic Films aka Limbo.

[FaT_tONle]

You do realize that a JLA movie could be a long ways off right? Like up to 10 years from now, no? So why would they use an old script set on a different continuity than the one the solo movies are likely to depict? Not to mention that Miller, 10 years from now, would be 72 and probably not interested in directing "big" movies anymore.

I still thought the general basis of the script was better than I could have hoped for. Obviously there will be many changes when this movie finally happens but I hope they keep it similar because they geared it more toward realism instead of aliens and what not. That's the way to go.

[biolumen]

You do realize that a JLA movie could be a long ways off right? Like up to 10 years from now, no? So why would they use an old script set on a different continuity than the one the solo movies are likely to depict? Not to mention that Miller, 10 years from now, would be 72 and probably not interested in directing "big" movies anymore.

Agreed. This particular movie will never be made, and if a JL is made one day (and that's a big "if"), it will be completely different from this one.

Showtime:

Call it morbid curiosity, but I just want to know more of the particulars surrrounding this movie, and who better to talk about it than the director and one of its stars. I suspect, however, that they're not going to have much more to say about it than we already know.

[I Am The Knight]

You don't see it as a sign that the entire JL forum was closed down and threads were moved to DC Comic Films aka Limbo.

Oh, you're right. I hadn't noticed :hehe:

I still thought the general basis of the script was better than I could have hoped for. Obviously there will be many changes when this movie finally happens but I hope they keep it similar because they geared it more toward realism instead of aliens and what not. That's the way to go.

I don't remember it being geared towards realism at all.

I did like the Brother Eye angle, BTW.

[FaT_tONle]

Well I consider the OMACS, Maxwell Lord, Talia AL Ghul more realistic than Darkseid or White Martians.

[The Major]

Well I consider the OMACS, Maxwell Lord, Talia AL Ghul more realistic than Darkseid or White Martians.

They are more realistic but Talia is not what I'd consider a good JL rogue. Whats she going to do if WW wants to punch her face in? At least Max Lord has telepathy to protect himself.

A stronger Bat-villain like Clayface or Poison Ivy would work better.

[I Am The Knight]

Well I consider the OMACS, Maxwell Lord, Talia AL Ghul more realistic than Darkseid or White Martians.

Yes...I suppose so. But a JLA movie shouldn't try for realism. Just for respectability.

[FaT_tONle]

In an alternate universe movie those things would work. But now that WB is tying everything together... they need to establish those sci fi elements in each of their franchises. Forget Bale's Batman because I don't see his character in a JLA movie, but with the other characters they need to have the hard core sci fi elements in their individual movies to begin with if they chose to make a JLA movie with extra ordinary villains/threats.

[Mercurius]

Biolumen, sometimes I believe if anyone can get blood out of a stone, it would be you.

But . . . that would be ridiculous ;) .

Hey, Dracula did it. :woot:

Remember Gary Oldman attacking with a sword that huge cross with a stone in the middle, making a sea of blood to come out, and then drinking voluptuously from it in a chalice?

[TheVileOne]

Some guys just don't want to let go of the JL movie. After they pledged the last year dedicated to supporting its existence. Even when the writing was on the wall 7 months ago.

People even took unsourced schmucks at their word like this Uncle Baghdad Bingo Bob fellow. That was the most hilarious material of all. I still wonder what happened to him.

[biolumen]

I still wonder what happened to him.

Considering how many times you and you alone have brought up that troll's name in the last couple of months, your wonderment doesn't surprise me in the least.

Let's face it. Uncle Bingo was not a pro JL:M poster. He was just a troll who posted very positive rumors regarding the movie just days before it was delayed in Jan. with the actors being let go. Whether this person was an insider who knew exactly what was coming down or just someone who carefully took what little info there was and reworded it to sound fresh, this persons' sole intent was to build supporters hopes up just ahead of the crushing news of it's demise.

I myself quickly dismissed UB as a troll because what he was saying was much too positive and the posts themselves much too articulate to be believable, at least by me. Can't speak for some others, however.

[TheVileOne]

I don't remember you and the other members of the SHH JL and IMDB forums dismissing him so quickly ;) .

[Nightwing1977]

Maybe this will distract you:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/remixof1983/mkdc/mkdc005.jpg

Did Catwoman just got a tongue ring? :D :D

And the graphics there look incredible. Mortal Kombat has really come a long way ever since they use arts with Mortal Kombat 4. Can't wait to play this.

[protocida]

Well, i hope they stick with Kiernan and Michelle Mulroney. They got the characters right:

Superman - A.k.a. Clark Kent, news reporter. The morally upstanding Man of Steel battles Batman and has more to worry about than kryptonite.

Batman - A.k.a. Bruce Wayne. The most human in the bunch is mistrustful of others, which leads to quite a few problems for the clan.

Wonder Woman - A.k.a. Diana of Amazonian princess. Revered by the other supers for her beauty and ass-kicking abilities.

Flash - A.k.a. Barry Allen, cop. The most enthusiastic superhero, Flash is happy just to be included, but his ravenous appetite leads to trouble.

Green Lantern - A.k.a. John Stewart, architect. Designed the Hall of Justice. His emerald power ring shoots beams of energy.

Aquaman - A.k.a. Arthur, the Atlantean King. Not a fan of humans, Aquaman is more interested in helping his fellow heroes than lending a hand to land dwellers.

The Martian Manhunter - A.k.a. J'onn J'onzz, detective. His power to read minds comes in handy as the villain engages in some nifty mind control.

[Showtime]

Showtime:

Call it morbid curiosity, but I just want to know more of the particulars surrrounding this movie, and who better to talk about it than the director and one of its stars. I suspect, however, that they're not going to have much more to say about it than we already know.

I can respect that. I would love to see what they actually had planned, to dispell a lot of the rumors. Suits, Concept Arts, The Script...that would be cool.

[Webhead2006]

Yea now with the film given its finale nail in the coffin it would be nice if miller and the cast came out and told us how they where planning to do the film and what was the direction/look for the film.

[TheVileOne]

I don't see why that's so important at this point.

I think its ridiculous to do Green Lantern starring Hal Jordan and JL starring John Stewart. It makes no sense.

[Webhead2006]

well it doesnt matter now that jla is officially dead whos to say if/when jla does indeed happen within now probably 8-10yrs from now which does suck its likely to be that long now which gl will be in the film.

[FaT_tONle]

I don't see why that's so important at this point.

I think its ridiculous to do Green Lantern starring Hal Jordan and JL starring John Stewart. It makes no sense.

Well if Hal has a succesful franchise he can stay there by himself. Stewart could be a side character who steps in for JLA... maybe give Hal a cameo or guest appearance. That way you don't kill the budget on cast. Kind of like Norton and Avengers... I am sure they'd have an easier time bringing him back for a sequel unless he is willing to take the pay cut needed for Avengers... which I am not banking on despite what LL has said on Norton's involvement in Avengers.

[TheVileOne]

If a series of Hal Jordan character is successful, and the point is to make the movies intersect, then stack the deck in your favor.

Now that Iron Man's successful, how about make Avengers starring Terence Howard as War Machine so they will have a black guy in the group and make Rhodey War Machine/Iron Man the side character.

[jmc]

Hey folks, there was just an interview with Megan Gale on Aussie TV, the interview was clearly done before the latest news from WB, not much was said about JL but apparently she wasn't even thinking about a move to acting at the time, and, here's the interesting part, George Miller is the one who called Megan Gale out of the blue and offered her an audition for JL. So the recent statement by George Miller stating they didn't expect much from Gale's audition is a load of crap, it seems he had an eye on Gale from the beginning.

[Showtime]

Why am I not suprised for one second.

[I Am The Knight]

Hey folks, there was just an interview with Megan Gale on Aussie TV, the interview was clearly done before the latest news from WB, not much was said about JL but apparently she wasn't even thinking about a move to acting at the time, and, here's the interesting part, George Miller is the one who called Megan Gale out of the blue and offered her an audition for JL. So the recent statement by George Miller stating they didn't expect much from Gale's audition is a load of crap, it seems he had an eye on Gale from the beginning.

So she's not into acting anymore?

[BATZARRO WWD]

Yeah, I guess Justice League will likely never happen now. Warner will likely screw Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, The Superman Reboot or the third Batman then they'll scare themselves with they're own suckiness and not make a Justice League film . FIN.

Phillistines...

[Dark Knight]

FINALLY....this thread has been moved to the appropriate place....

[The Major]

So she's not into acting anymore?

Gale was only into acting once WB came calling.

Some WW. :(

[biolumen]

Gale was only into acting once WB came calling.

Some WW. :(

According to her, she had just quit the catwalk and was starting to prepare herself for tackling Hollywood when the call from Miller's office came.


ANDREW DENTON: You’ve signed up to do Wonder Woman in a George Miller film Justice League.

MEGAN GALE: Ooh yeah.

ANDREW DENTON: Ah they’re big shiny boots to fill. Does that make you nervous?

MEGAN GALE: Oh no. I quite look forward to that. It still makes my head spin to think about how all that happened cause it happened very rapidly and I had no idea that was coming at all.

ANDREW DENTON: How did it happen?

MEGAN GALE: Oh gosh. Well it was a funny time actually because it was September of last year and I’d just decided that I was going to retire from modelling from the catwalk and I wasn’t quite sure what I wanted to do next. So I was in the process of getting a lot of the material together from Italy and stuff I had done in Australia and trying to put a show reel together and trying to prepare myself to think about tackling LA when I get a call and it’s from a casting agent saying George Miller wants to see you for an audition for a film he’s doing. And I was like oh okay.

MEGAN GALE: Then I said what’s it for. They said we can’t tell you anything about the film. I said okay well what’s the role. We can’t tell you anything about that. I said okay so and I so when I initially went to the first reading.

ANDREW DENTON: And before this you’re thinking Babe 3, that bastard.

Laughter

MEGAN GALE: Exactly. But I had no because it was all so top secret this film that I had no idea of what I was going for and while I was getting ready though and this is the weird thing is that I had the words Wonder Woman just go across my mind and I have no explanation why and then I went to the casting about an hour later, I went to the audition and they sat down and they said so you know nothing about the film. I said no I don’t I don’t know anything. They said okay well it’s a movie and it’s about all the superheros and I said right. I said am I here for Wonder Woman and she went yeah you are. It was like oh.

ANDREW DENTON: Wow.

MEGAN GALE: This is bizarre.

ANDREW DENTON: Why have you always loved her?

MEGAN GALE: Because she was just that epitome of she was powerful and she was strong and she was kind and she was gentle and she was nurturing and had a maternal side to her and just had all the ideal qualities of being that that perfect ideal woman.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s2343589.htm

[The Major]

Bio:

Okay.

[TheVileOne]

Gentlemen, it's called the casting couch. Google it. Miller probably had his eye on a lot more than her as Wonder Woman ;) .

[Nina7]

So, he cast a model with no acting experience for Wonder Woman? Thank God Miller and his version of the Justice League is dead.

[Evil Twin]

How much acting experience did Tina Turner have before Thunderdome? That's probably the best comp.

[The Major]

How much acting experience did Tina Turner have before Thunderdome? That's probably the best comp.

It isn't that simple. Not all people are born with the same skills or levels of skills even with good training.

Just because Turner did well not mean Gale will.

Turner wasn't the star of Mad Max, didn't play an action hero on Superman's scale whose as skilled as Batman in combat or a decades old icon. Gale will be playing all three as WW if she becomes the lead.

[Showtime]

How much acting experience did Tina Turner have before Thunderdome? That's probably the best comp.

Wait what? Did I miss the part of my life where Tina Turner was considering a good actress? :csad:

[bunk]

Wait what? Did I miss the part of my life where Tina Turner was considering a good actress? :csad:

Well if that occurred, it was in between blinks of the eye... so yes, probably.

[I Am The Knight]

Gentlemen, it's called the casting couch. Google it. Miller probably had his eye on a lot more than her as Wonder Woman ;) .

But she has bigfoot hands :huh:

[TheVileOne]

Miller might be into that.

[Showtime]

I wonder what Dnno1's thoughts are on this.

[Evil Twin]

It isn't that simple. Not all people are born with the same skills or levels of skills even with good training.

Just because Turner did well not mean Gale will.

Turner wasn't the star of Mad Max, didn't play an action hero on Superman's scale whose as skilled as Batman in combat or a decades old icon. Gale will be playing all three as WW if she becomes the lead.

I agree, we don't know if she would be any good. OTOH, some are natural talents or fit a part to a tee. Bette Midler was an Oscar nominee her first time out of the gate. I can think of several models turned actresses that have had fine careers and won an award or two.

I don't get the obsession with nitpicking every little decision that George Miller made when we a) never saw the auditions, b) never read the script or read a full scale, thorough review of the script, and c) saw none of the preproduction work. It might have been a disaster, every director has a Hook in them, but Miller also has enough of a track record that he may have had a vision that would have surprised all of us. Who here ever thought a talking pig movie would be nominated for Best Picture in our lifetimes?

I think at this point it's clear that this is a dead issue. And I look forward to someone doing a thorough spy report on this eventually so that we all aren't talking out our ass about it.

[Mercurius]

Megan Megan Megan Gale (Joker's voice).

[Webhead2006]

Well if its true wb is now trying the solo route first and maybe small connections in said solo films like marvel we will likely now not see jla untill like 2013-2015 time frame. Cause its looking like gl and/or ga for 2010, batman 3 and supes reboot for 2011, and then ww/flash for 2012-2013 range.

[biolumen]

At least one mainstream Australian media outlet has picked up on the fact that Miller's Justice League movie isn't going to happen.

Warner Bros is expected to announce its plans for future DC Comics adaptations soon, including its third Batman film, the new film reintroducing Superman, and two movies featuring other DC Comics characters that are likely to spring from projects in development, featuring Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow and Wonder Woman. While many Australians who worked on Superman Returns in Sydney may be disappointed by the slapdown, those who expected to work on George Miller's Justice League of America have more reason to worry. From Robinov's comments, it does not appear to be part of Warner's plans.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24246482-16947,00.html

[Webhead2006]

Finally now hitting over there!!!

[I Am The Knight]

Miller might be into that.

That's truly nasty a suggestion. Even for you :woot:

[jmc]

Finally now hitting over there!!!

Tell me about it, I swear any Hollywood news gets to our media like a week after the event, it's like it's still the 1980's or something.

[Steelsheen]

At least one mainstream Australian media outlet has picked up on the fact that Miller's Justice League movie isn't going to happen.



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24246482-16947,00.html


man Aussies just have the rotten luck with superhero franchises huh? first it was SR, then it was JL...

[jmc]

man Aussies just have the rotten luck with superhero franchises huh? first it was SR, then it was JL...


We do have a knack for helping produce crap blockbusters.

[Steelsheen]

We do have a knack for helping produce crap blockbusters.

i'm hoping that "Australia" will break that streak dude ;)

oh and for all of SR's fault, its cinematography and setting is certainly not one of them. kudos for you Aussies on that :up:

[BATZARRO WWD]

I don't get the obsession with nitpicking every little decision that George Miller made when we a) never saw the auditions, b) never read the script or read a full scale, thorough review of the script, and c) saw none of the preproduction work. It might have been a disaster, every director has a Hook in them, but Miller also has enough of a track record that he may have had a vision that would have surprised all of us. Who here ever thought a talking pig movie would be nominated for Best Picture in our lifetimes?

I think at this point it's clear that this is a dead issue. And I look forward to someone doing a thorough spy report on this eventually so that we all aren't talking out our ass about it.

Wich is exactly my point. The fact of the matter is, the bulk of the critics were straight up made up assuptions about things and fear of what it might do to other, unrelated franchises. They said(admittedly with no knoweledge, I can't find a soul here that has said they read the script) that it was gonna be campy. But look at their reactions to the new Warner plan: now it seems "SUPERMAN ISN'T dark".

But, yeah, mute point. Warner supposedly has it's plan, and my gut tells me thet plan involve a JUstice League movie never happening, on account of it requiring all movies to not fail. Wich requires Warner to not screw up any of them. Wich is essentially forfeit because we all know as soon as one of them falls short of expectations, they'll just rustles themselves a new plan.

Hopefully not, but I'm already preparing my "I told you so" speech. But hey, at least we're geting even more Batman and Superman movies, so there's that. And probably only that...

[I Am The Knight]

Yeessh, you're so negative...If DC/WB actually pulls this off, a JLA movie will be the big prize. They hinted at that themselves when the sumitt news surfaced.

[Webhead2006]

Yea hopefully with the summit talks and the ways im and tdk changed hero films wb is finally getting their butts in line.

[biolumen]

The Sydney Morning Herald makes mention of it too.

It was a case of so close for one, and so far for the director when George Miller failed to show at a celebration of Australian genre film at Fox Studios last night.

Miller was once to shoot his superheroic Justice League: Mortal at Moore Park, but a series of skirmishes mean that the good fight will now most likely be fought elsewhere. Happy Feet 2 seems to have suffered a better fate, with work already under way on the project.

Jacki Weaver and Rhys Muldoon were among those who did attend the Australian Film Industry Awards preview of the doco Not Quite Hollywood, in which Quentin Tarantino et al wax lyrical about the grand tradition of the Australian genre film.

No stranger to the genre film, Miller has said that the super efforts of Megan Gale as Wonder Woman would prove, well, wonderful for Justice League. But Nicole Kidman and Hugh Jackman in Baz Luhrmann's epic (and conveniently titled - and conveniently completed) Australia have already upped Miller on parochial points.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/stay-in-touch/in-a-flash-eva-has-it-covered/2008/08/27/1219516566035.html?page=2

[BATZARRO WWD]

Yeessh, you're so negative...If DC/WB actually pulls this off, a JLA movie will be the big prize. They hinted at that themselves when the sumitt news surfaced.

I dunno, if they couldn't get two measly movies in place for a crossover, why should I believe they can get 4, and not ruin one(or more) of them, then make their cowardly retreat movement they always do? Riddle me this, then: What chances do you think WB has of not making a mess out of four comic book based movies? And what do you think they'll do "if" that happens?

And this is the Official Justice League Status Update Thread: Where optimism checks at the door, and we all know the future. I don't need a positive outlook when I have history to judge situations by. And you know what I see? Batman then Superman, then more Batman, followed by more Superman...

[Showtime]

At least one mainstream Australian media outlet has picked up on the fact that Miller's Justice League movie isn't going to happen.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24246482-16947,00.html

The Sydney Morning Herald makes mention of it too.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/stay-in-touch/in-a-flash-eva-has-it-covered/2008/08/27/1219516566035.html?page=2

I wonder why they are months and months behind...you wonder if they still have to tell George Miller. :csad:

[biolumen]

What's a bit odd is that the first article reads as if people down under still expected the film to shoot in Australia.

As for Miller, his appearance on 'Enough Rope', set for Sept. 8, will hopefully shed some light on the situation.

[Showtime]

He'll probably just talk about the tax break again. He never says much of anything.

[TheVileOne]

We shouldn't fault Australia for being a tiny island that doesn't have the internet :D .

[Webhead2006]

Yea sucks none of the actors of miller himself has come out and said yes we are dispointed the film fell through but here is some details on what we were planning.

[Steelsheen]

as much as we want Miller and the cast & crew involved in JL to talk, they may have NDAs (Non-Disclosure Agreement) that will prevent them from saying anything about the project, even if its already been shelved.

[I Am The Knight]

I dunno, if they couldn't get two measly movies in place for a crossover, why should I believe they can get 4, and not ruin one(or more) of them, then make their cowardly retreat movement they always do? Riddle me this, then: What chances do you think WB has of not making a mess out of four comic book based movies? And what do you think they'll do "if" that happens?

What are you talking about? I don't think BB and SR were meant to set up a crossover movie :huh: Care to explain that crossover comment?

Why wouldn't they be able to make 4 good movies, and what movies exactly are you referring to? A third Batman, a new Superman, 1 GL and 1 WW/Flash?

And this is the Official Justice League Status Update Thread: Where optimism checks at the door, and we all know the future. I don't need a positive outlook when I have history to judge situations by. And you know what I see? Batman then Superman, then more Batman, followed by more Superman...

Fine. Believe what you will. I think we'll see some progress this time. But even if we end up stuck with only Batman and Superman movies from WB in the future, guess what? These 2 characters have produced some of the best and most influential, culturally significant comic book movies of all time.

[The Major]

Fine. Believe what you will. I think we'll see some progress this time. But even if we end up stuck with only Batman and Superman movies from WB in the future, guess what? These 2 characters have produced some of the best and most influential, culturally significant comic book movies of all time.

Those two franchises have been given the opportunity to be most influential, cultural significant comic book movies of all time.

The rest haven't.

There's no WW equivalent of TDK. There is no Flash equivalent of Superman II. There is no Teen Titans equivalent of X-men - The Movie. There is no Green Arrow equivalent of Iron Man.

Hopefully this will happen in the future now WB is paying more attention to the lesser franchises.

Watchmen doesn't count even if it is good. It's a one shot story not connected with the DCU. I'm just taking about the DCU.

[jmc]

We shouldn't fault Australia for being a tiny island that doesn't have the internet :D .

We have it, it's just run by a dozen monkeys on stationary bicycles hook up to a power generator.

[BATZARRO WWD]

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/08/ryan-flash.html

Ryan Reynolds says he'd be DC's comicbook speedster in a Flash!
By David Bentley on Aug 29, 08 03:15 PM in Film gossip

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CANADIAN actor Ryan Reynolds says he'd love to play the part of DC Comics super-speed hero The Flash - either in a solo movie or as part of the proposed Justice League team-up movie.

Ryan, 31, who in May this year became engaged to actress Scarlett Johansson, has now gained some superhero movie experience in the role of Wade Wilson, aka Deadpool, in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, due out next May.

Although there's been no news on the proposed Flash movie for some time, Reynolds told MTV News: "The Flash isn't dead at all. There's talk of it being a JLA (Justice League of America) movie, the Justice League having them all together. And then there's other talk of doing a [solo] Flash movie with director Shawn Levy."

Asked if he thought the JLA film might happen first, Reynolds said: "[It] might, yeah. I don't really know how much I'm allowed to talk about that stuff. But I'm sure they'll figure out something. It's no secret that they have a JLA script and it's a project that's in development - the contents of which, who knows. We'll see."

"I'd love to see a full on Justice League movie done, the scope of which is just enormous. I think it's something they can pull off."

[protocida]

Looks like Warner still has plans for ''Justice League'', and sounds like they're doing just the way fanboys want.

[I Am The Knight]

I'm pretty sure that article is old, or Reynolds simply hasn't read any newspapers in the last couple of weeks.

[Webhead2006]

Yea that could be an old article because last time i ever heard anything from RR's mouth was he was saying he isnt likely to be a part of a flash movie now since all the problems of the solo flash film to get off the ground and then miller's jla was brody.