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Excel
02-26-2008, 10:32 PM
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981504.html?categoryid=13&cs=1


Warner Bros. to serve 'Justice' in '09

Studio going full speed with superhero film

By DIANE GARRETT (http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=bio&peopleID=1548)





Now that the writers strike has been resolved, Warner Bros. is pushing ahead with its plans to make "Justice League" (http://www.variety.com/profiles/TVSeries/main/157042/Justice%20League.html?dataSet=1) in time for a 2009 debut.
Warners tried to get "Justice League" into production earlier, but put it on indefinite hold in January, allowing the cast options to expire (Daily Variety (javascript:zodInfuser.FillDescriptions('Daily Variety');), Jan. 16). At the time, the studio said it didn't want to move ahead until the scribes had another shot at the script.
More than one option







(Co) Daily Variety (http://www.variety.com/profiles/Company/main/2039770/Daily%20Variety.html?dataSet=1) Filmography, Year, Role
(Co) Daily Variety (http://www.variety.com/profiles/Company/main/2134166/Daily%20Variety.html?dataSet=1)


Scribes Kieran and Michele Mulroney (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/751621/Michele%20Mulroney.html?dataSet=1) are busy polishing up the script, which is expected back at the studio in several weeks, and the cast has been advised to keep training for their superhero roles. Director George Miller (javascript:zodInfuser.FillDescriptions('George Miller');) is in pre-production in Australia.
Adam Brody (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/213632/Adam%20Brody.html?dataSet=1), cast as the Flash, is the biggest star in the superhero lineup. Rapper Common nabbed the Green Lantern role; other roles went to lesser-known thesps such as Armie Hammer (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/2150180/Armie%20Hammer.html?dataSet=1) Jr. (Batman) and Megan Gale (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/419937/Megan%20Gale.html?dataSet=1) (Wonder Woman).
"Justice League," based on a DC Comic, is a huge priority for the studio and considered a launching pad for future superhero projects down the line. Warners needs another tentpole for its 2009 slate, which is a little thin at the moment. Studio had been vying for Roland Emmerich (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/29759/Roland%20Emmerich.html?dataSet=1)'s "2012," but that project went to Sony. The studio just skedded "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins" for May 22 and Spike Jonze (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/28853/Spike%20Jonze.html?dataSet=1)'s "Where the Wild Things Are" for Oct. 16. The only other pic it has dated is Zack Snyder (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/37948/Zack%20Snyder.html?dataSet=1)'s "Watchmen," (http://www.variety.com/profiles/Film/main/36971/Watchmen.html?dataSet=1) set for release March 6.


I for one am ****in pissed :o

Showtime
02-26-2008, 10:51 PM
Well there it is. From Variety. Pretty strange considering what has been reported the past couple days. Mine question still remains, who is playing Superman?

Webhead2006
02-26-2008, 10:52 PM
Well its nice to hear its officially shooting for summer 09 release. I Hope though we get better people in the batman and superman roles. Well Yes hammer isnt right for bats with his young age, i was warming up to him. He has a good deep voice and would be an intimating bats at 6'5. I just hope DJ cotrona isnt supes in the end he is totally wrong for the role. Hopefully for supes role they see this(doubtful) and pick someone else..... welling....porter..... someone who looks more like the character.

Showtime
02-26-2008, 10:53 PM
I would say it is between Porter and Controna at this point.

AragornKing1
02-26-2008, 10:57 PM
So I guess this means that the next Superman sequel will be out in 2010. I hope so anyways.

Showtime
02-26-2008, 10:58 PM
Not necessarily.

KBX
02-26-2008, 10:59 PM
Well this is good news for me!!!

If Hammer is Bats, I would say DJ is Sups.... Trust me I want this movie to happen, just not with those 2....

Webhead2006
02-26-2008, 11:00 PM
Well if its only between DJ and porter i would take porter over dj. Both are not perfect for supes but porter would be a hell of alot better then a 5'9 hispanic decent superman if Hammer is indeed bats at 6'5. Not knocking dj, i never seen his work so i dont know how he is as an actor but for superman role he does not fit the bill.

Showtime
02-26-2008, 11:00 PM
Seems as it's either Controna or Porter at this point. I know the Welling rumors are going to start back up again now though.

The Major
02-26-2008, 11:02 PM
Good news.

I'm glad they're giving the movie a decent amount of time before the release date in '09.

AragornKing1
02-26-2008, 11:03 PM
Not necessarily.

But I'm sure that one of the A list writers is bound to pitch a story idea that will make WB want to make another Superman sequel. There's so much potential with Brainiac, Doomsday, Mongul, Bizarro, Metallo, and even Darkseid.:csad:

KBX
02-26-2008, 11:03 PM
If they do move to Canada, I would not expect it to go away until they announce someone...

Showtime
02-26-2008, 11:04 PM
They sure as heck might be pitching ideas, doesn't mean a movie is going to happen. I think JLA hurts the chances for MOS more than anything.

AragornKing1
02-26-2008, 11:08 PM
They sure as heck might be pitching ideas, doesn't mean a movie is going to happen. I think JLA hurts the chances for MOS more than anything.

Well that just sucks. WB can't just give up on Superman when they haven't even tried. Man oh man, Justice League better be the best superhero movie so far! It better not be cheesy at all!

Webhead2006
02-26-2008, 11:09 PM
Yea JLA now is probably going to be the one going before superman. They have a script well getting rewritten, and due to studio again in a few weeks and if production stays in auzzie or even move to canada i dont see why any sets already built could not get shiped over. They are well ahead of MOS in many areas. Soo JLA has the better chance of going now then MOS cause it would take them a few months of pre production, getting cast back, recasting if needed, getting more cast, getting sets ready and i dont think singer is free if he was to stay with mos cause isnt he working on like 2 or 3 films currently.

KBX
02-26-2008, 11:10 PM
I look at it this way. If JL could happen when there is a Batman franchise still going, I see no reason why there can't be one with Sups.

But it looks like we won't see Sups for a while though, if Singer/Routh is really gone. I do bet once JL is over, the 1st DC movie we will see post-JL is Superman.

Showtime
02-26-2008, 11:11 PM
I think that JLA will destroy the chance for MOS, but we'll see.

Webhead2006
02-26-2008, 11:12 PM
Well if jla does happen this yr with 09 release i see a 3rd nolan batflick happening before MOS unless nolan/bale decline to come back for a third film. I would hate to see that happen.

Lobo
02-26-2008, 11:12 PM
They sure as heck might be pitching ideas, doesn't mean a movie is going to happen. I think JLA hurts the chances for MOS more than anything.

Agreed.

AragornKing1
02-26-2008, 11:17 PM
I think that JLA will destroy the chance for MOS, but we'll see.

I just don't understand how JL will destroy the chance for MOS. Why not make another Superman sequel. It means more money. I hope they don't do a restart of the Superman franchise with the crappy actor that is cast as Superman in JL. I really don't want to see Superman's origin a third time. We saw it once in Superman 1 and in Smallville.

AragornKing1
02-26-2008, 11:23 PM
Plus, this isn't anything new what Variety is reporting. Justice League has been officially set for a 2009 release date for months. Why is everyone treating this like it is actually going to come out next year? Besides, didn't George Miller say that this movie is uncertain?

Mogwai
02-26-2008, 11:25 PM
i don't think we'll see any origins of individual characters in the movie, especially supes, bats, and ww.

KBX
02-26-2008, 11:27 PM
Plus, this isn't anything new what Variety is reporting. Justice League has been officially set for a 2009 release date for months. Why is everyone treating this like it is actually going to come out next year? Besides, didn't George Miller say that this movie is uncertain?



Um, we didn't officially know when this movie was going to come out. We still don't have a release date, I mean it can be December of 09 for all we know....

Showtime
02-26-2008, 11:32 PM
I just don't understand how JL will destroy the chance for MOS. Why not make another Superman sequel. It means more money. I hope they don't do a restart of the Superman franchise with the crappy actor that is cast as Superman in JL. I really don't want to see Superman's origin a third time. We saw it once in Superman 1 and in Smallville.

There is a chance that the JL Superman will go over so well that the actor will then continue as Superman in a subsequen spin off. It's a possibility. Thus no need for MOS. A Superman Returns Sequel doesn't necessarily mean more money.


Plus, this isn't anything new what Variety is reporting. Justice League has been officially set for a 2009 release date for months. Why is everyone treating this like it is actually going to come out next year? Besides, didn't George Miller say that this movie is uncertain?



You haven't been following recently?

jmc
02-26-2008, 11:39 PM
How the hell do we get two completely contrasting reports as to the status of this film with in the last few days? :huh:

KBX
02-26-2008, 11:42 PM
Easy, WB or maybe Australia caved in their demands, and BAM, problem solved...

jmc
02-26-2008, 11:44 PM
I have trouble imagining it could have been resolved that quick.

KBX
02-26-2008, 11:48 PM
yeah yeah, it was a joke... Maybe this was an issue, but had been solved, just Miller or anyone else didn't bother to tell anyone about it...

Maybe they still haven't resolved it yet...

Crook
02-26-2008, 11:49 PM
Well I guess it's an improvement that they're working on the script again. I'm not really sure how I feel about this project. It really could go either way, my only concern is the cast.

Could be worse. :huh:

I just hope to god whoever is cast as Supes isn't as bad as it looked before. Out of the names rumored, it better be Porter who gets it.

TwilightPro101
02-26-2008, 11:51 PM
I'm about the same on this one at the moment. Could really go either way.

jmc
02-26-2008, 11:55 PM
The film is either gonna be surprisingly good, mediocre viewing, or down right terrible. The casting alone has me sitting on mediocre.

TwilightPro101
02-26-2008, 11:56 PM
The first thought that comes to mind for me on it: is teen superhero flick, which I really hope that this series doesn't become.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 12:00 AM
Well hopefully the film is good. Also if for superman role if its only between dj and porter as i said on the other page i would take porter over that dj guy. Also hammer is alright got bats its just his young age that is all wrong and i would like to see someone a little more decent in that role too. Again hopefully we get the official cast of who is who soon.

KBX
02-27-2008, 12:01 AM
The film is either gonna be surprisingly good, mediocre viewing, or down right terrible. The casting alone has me sitting on mediocre.

Basically the ratings for every movie that has ever been made.

The first thought that comes to mind for me on it: is teen superhero flick, which I really hope that this series doesn't become.

Gale, Common, Brody, don't exactly look like teenagers running around.... Thats why I am pushing hard for this to be a pg-13 rating...

jmc
02-27-2008, 12:06 AM
I think he mean more on the films market geared toward teens, not the age of the actors.

dnno1
02-27-2008, 12:08 AM
... Thats why I am pushing hard for this to be a pg-13 rating...

Thats usually the kiss of death if they aren't for most of them. Come on, guy, this is a comicbook superhero movie. There has got to be some fights in it, and any violence of that nature is a shoe in for a PG-13 rating.

Crook
02-27-2008, 12:09 AM
I think he mean more on the films market geared toward teens, not the age of the actors.
They'd have to try pretty damn hard not to make this film at least somewhat interesting towards (young and old) adults.

KBX
02-27-2008, 12:13 AM
I think he mean more on the films market geared toward teens, not the age of the actors.

Oh oh oh, I see, well yeah, I agree.... but Im sure they will..

Thats usually the kiss of death if they aren't for most of them. Come on, guy, this is a comicbook superhero movie. There has got to be some fights in it, and any violence of that nature is a shoe in for a PG-13 rating.

We just got a Superman movie, where Superman doesn't throw a punch, Im gonna be a little skeptical...

jmc
02-27-2008, 12:14 AM
Thats usually the kiss of death if they aren't for most of them. Come on, guy, this is a comicbook superhero movie. There has got to be some fights in it, and any violence of that nature is a shoe in for a PG-13 rating.

Forgive me, we have different rating system in Aus, what's the PG-13 rating, Parental Guidence for under 13's?

dnno1
02-27-2008, 12:15 AM
...We just got a Superman movie, where Superman doesn't throw a punch, Im gonna be a little skeptical...

But he sure got beat up and shot at. That was enough to get a PG-13. What are you worried about Justice League for?

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 12:18 AM
pg-13 rating usually means foul language, mild violence and some other things like partial nudity, drug refence,etc.......

dnno1
02-27-2008, 12:19 AM
Forgive me, we have different rating system in Aus, what's the PG-13 rating, Parental Guidence for under 13's?

Pretty much. Its based on a voluntary ratings system maintained by the Motion Picture Association of America (http://mpaa.org/FilmRatings.asp) (MPAA).

KBX
02-27-2008, 12:19 AM
Im just cautious about everything, I just really want this movie to succeed...

Saint
02-27-2008, 12:19 AM
Ugh, why won't this die? Or at least get a cast that doesn't blow?

Superman-Prime
02-27-2008, 12:20 AM
Oh, go **** yourself and die, Warner Bros. I'm so super pissed now.

dnno1
02-27-2008, 12:21 AM
pg-13 rating usually means foul language, mild violence and some other things like partial nudity, drug refence,etc.......

So just having Batman and Wonder Woman in the film is enough to get a PG-13 rating. Nothing to worry about.

Lighthouse
02-27-2008, 12:33 AM
I'll play Devils advocate and say that I don't think this article proves anything. It basically reaffirms everything we already knew. With the Austrailia thing and the script, this movie is still very much in the air.

Superman-Prime
02-27-2008, 12:38 AM
I'm not going to support JLA movie, never ever will support this!

They need to keep Superman and Batman out of JLA movie because we got Batman Begins/The Dark Knight and Superman Returns.

Good grief. Justice League movie is gonna destroy Superman Returns franchise and if JLA becomes very successful, then there will be no third Batman film EVER.

Geez, Warner Bros needs to die slowly, for a frickin' sake. Warner Bros have proved that they are an IDIOT.

Crook
02-27-2008, 12:43 AM
and if JLA becomes very successful, then there will be no third Batman film EVER.
Not only has this been absolutely debunked by WB themselves, but it makes absolutely no sense from a logical or business perspective.

jmc
02-27-2008, 12:47 AM
No third Batman film will have more to do with Chris Nolan than Justice League.

BatJeff7786
02-27-2008, 12:57 AM
Well Crap. Here's hoping it doesn't suck and ruin future DC films.

AragornKing1
02-27-2008, 01:10 AM
There is a chance that the JL Superman will go over so well that the actor will then continue as Superman in a subsequen spin off. It's a possibility. Thus no need for MOS. A Superman Returns Sequel doesn't necessarily mean more money.




You haven't been following recently?

I have. Hasn't WB been planning a 2009 release date for months?

AragornKing1
02-27-2008, 01:13 AM
I'll play Devils advocate and say that I don't think this article proves anything. It basically reaffirms everything we already knew. With the Austrailia thing and the script, this movie is still very much in the air.

That's what I've been saying. You're exactly right.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 01:18 AM
Yea it was rumored for months to be 09 release but when the film was officially delayed last month we were not sure what was going to happen to the film.

Octoberist
02-27-2008, 01:50 AM
i'm thinking that some of the actors will be recasted.

The War Machine
02-27-2008, 02:17 AM
Adam Brody (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/213632/Adam%20Brody.html?dataSet=1), cast as the Flash, is the biggest star in the superhero lineup.

Hahaha

That sadly says it all..



http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/07/11/30_flashbrody_lgl.jpg

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 03:03 AM
He's the most well known. So what?

The War Machine
02-27-2008, 03:05 AM
If Adam Brody is the biggest star of your film, its pretty much cemented that you have a crappy cast.

jmc
02-27-2008, 03:16 AM
A few solid acting names would give the project more credibility.

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 03:17 AM
Not well known doesn't equal crappy.

As others have pointed out, the article doesn't mention who's playing Superman. NBC just cancelled 'Las Vegas'. :cwink:

jmc
02-27-2008, 03:31 AM
Never said it did, but it's a harder sell when you've got no name actors in all the major parts, compared to the Batman series, or just about any other comic book adapation for that matter, Justice League's cast is a case of "I'm sorry, who?". And I have no idea what the Las Vegas show reference means.

chamber-music
02-27-2008, 03:39 AM
Well Crap. Here's hoping it doesn't suck and ruin future DC films.

Exactly. If the JLA movie flops DC superhero spin off movies will be dead with the exception of Bats and Supes.

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 03:41 AM
Never said it did, but it's a harder sell when you've got no name actors in all the major parts, compared to the Batman series, or just about any other comic book adapation for that matter, Justice League's cast is a case of "I'm sorry, who?". And I have no idea what the Las Vegas show reference means.

I wasn't referring to your post. It was War Machine's. :woot:

'Las Vegas' being cancelled means Josh Duhamel can play Superman. That's what I was getting at. :yay:

jmc
02-27-2008, 03:45 AM
My bad. :whatever:

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 03:47 AM
My bad. :whatever:

No probs, mate. :yay:

Super_Ludacris
02-27-2008, 04:15 AM
So with actually shooting still not starting, not all the cast announced or officially confirmed (WB press release) and rewrites still in order, not to mention the uncertainty of shooting in either Australia or Canada or the uncertainty of whether or not Superman and Batman will be in this, the WB have given this a go for a 2009 release?


Go **** yourselves Variety and WB. We dont believe you, you need more people....

JP
02-27-2008, 05:30 AM
Well.. I for one am excited. :o

The War Machine
02-27-2008, 05:50 AM
'Las Vegas' being cancelled means Josh Duhamel can play Superman. That's what I was getting at. :yay:

Josh Duhamel as Supes next to Armie Hammer Jr. as Batman.

That would look ridiculous man.

dark_b
02-27-2008, 05:50 AM
So with actually shooting still not starting, not all the cast announced or officially confirmed (WB press release) and rewrites still in order, not to mention the uncertainty of shooting in either Australia or Canada or the uncertainty of whether or not Superman and Batman will be in this, the WB have given this a go for a 2009 release?


Go **** yourselves Variety and WB. We dont believe you, you need more people....it would not be the first time a movie is rushed.

look at hulk. they started filming in the second half of 2007. and its a big budget summer movie that has no footage.

nintendo nerd
02-27-2008, 06:35 AM
R.I.P. MOS. :csad:

jonmaship
02-27-2008, 06:57 AM
Adam Brody is pretty damn talented!

Ulic Queldroma
02-27-2008, 07:01 AM
This makes me want to cry. I have a problem with them making a movie about the justice league without the current Batman and Superman. I have an even bigger problem with them casting adolescents (or at least those who look like it) to be major Superheroes. The dude who's the front-runner for superman (DJ Controna) looks less like superman than I do. And I'm hispanic! This movie reeks of Steel (with actual special effects) or Elektra (I know it's a marvel property). Warner's just looking to make a fast buck and not a great movie like their winners Batman Begins and, in my opinion, Superman Returns. Lets just hope that TDK delivers and will help tide me over until they finally make The Man of Steel.

UQ

Ulic Queldroma
02-27-2008, 07:03 AM
Adam Brody is pretty damn talented!
Even if he is talented, it doesn't mean he's the right talent for the job. Ryan Reynolds is probably the best fit for the fastest man alive, at least the Wally West version anyway.

mclay18
02-27-2008, 07:12 AM
Yeah, but now Marvel/Fox's got him for Wolverine.

I still don't know what to think about this. I'm a bit thrilled about this coming back on the project, but on the negative side this is certainly going to push MOS back. Or maybe they could release MOS and JL during the same year, save MOS for December... it worked for Superman: The Movie, right?

I'm going to give Warner Brothers and Miller the benefit of the doubt. I hope both projects will turn out fine. There can be three separate DC superhero franchises WB can cash off should it prove successful.

Mister J
02-27-2008, 07:27 AM
Exactly. If the JLA movie flops DC superhero spin off movies will be dead with the exception of Bats and Supes.
This is my fear and I'm not so sure Superman would be exempt from it, at least not for an extended period of time.

This is wild. I've long been excited over the prospects of a JLA. However, I've had no confidence in this project since it was rumored. Development Hell isn't the proper term for where I want this thing to head.

The Incredible Hulk
02-27-2008, 07:49 AM
Exactly. If the JLA movie flops DC superhero spin off movies will be dead with the exception of Bats and Supes.

Supes is dead even without JLA flopping.

Antonello Blueberry
02-27-2008, 07:55 AM
Supes is dead even without JLA flopping.
If you say it three times naked on the top of the Statue of Liberty it might actually become true.

Antonello Blueberry
02-27-2008, 07:59 AM
Were I in the shoes of WB people, I'd push for Brandon to be Superman in JLA too, to strengthen the idea that he's the Superman of this generation. It will provide a sort of continuity waiting for the Superman movie.
I don't think the characterization of Supes in this movie could be so far off from the one in SR and moreover Brandon's price tag is still not that high.

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 08:00 AM
Adam Brody as the Flash and Arm & Hammer as Batman just confirmed I will not pay one cent to watch this movie. It's bootleg all the way.

And way to go WB! Nolan and the Batman franchise is the only stable thing you have right now regarding superheroes and you pretty much made him walk with this move. Sure you will probably just get a "Ratner" type director to continue the Bat franchise but the stability you had with Nolan is now gone.

This also convinces me that WB is run by monkeys.

JohnRico
02-27-2008, 08:14 AM
Sighs round two has begun I see :o

Nirvana
02-27-2008, 08:14 AM
I wish they would just let this film crash and burn. It'll be the biggest disappointment to any fanboy

Jamie Madrox
02-27-2008, 08:16 AM
Whoa... I kind thought this wouldn't get made for quite some time. It looks like JLA is going to happen and probably with the original cast.

Dang, two movies with Superman in 'em will come out within two years? It'd be Supermania all over again. Yaaaay! I'm kinda anxious to see what exactly WB saw in D.J. Cotrona. There had to have been something they liked about him in his audition, I'm curious as to what it was. Of course, I don't know if he still has the role or not but I'm still wondering.

Hopefully the script got a re-write and the cast had time to really prepare for the movie.

Antonello Blueberry
02-27-2008, 08:17 AM
I wish they would just let this film crash and burn. It'll be the biggest disappointment to any fanboy
Bigger than Spider-man 3? X-Men 3? Fantastic Four?

I Am The Knight
02-27-2008, 08:26 AM
Adam Brody as the Flash and Arm & Hammer as Batman just confirmed I will not pay one cent to watch this movie. It's bootleg all the way.

And way to go WB! Nolan and the Batman franchise is the only stable thing you have right now regarding superheroes and you pretty much made him walk with this move. Sure you will probably just get a "Ratner" type director to continue the Bat franchise but the stability you had with Nolan is now gone.

This also convinces me that WB is run by monkeys.

Boy, that "Nolan hates JLA" thing will just not die.

He already came out and said he didn't mind the movie being made. It was an IGN interview I believe. So why do you keep claiming he will "walk" from the Batman franchise because of this movie?

I Am The Knight
02-27-2008, 08:26 AM
Whoops. Double post. Are the boards slow today, or is it my connection? Cause I have a pretty good connection here, I'd believe. Unless someone's using Youtube....

AVEITWITHJAMON
02-27-2008, 08:26 AM
I wish they would just let this film crash and burn. It'll be the biggest disappointment to any fanboy

Agreed, i actually think, whether MOS gets made or not, JLA is the worst idea for a SH movie since Batman & Robin, i wont be seeing this with the teeny bopper cast.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 08:28 AM
Well as soon as Hammer and Cotrona become official... I'll be off these boards... so you Miller lovers won't have to deal with me as a JLA hater at least... glad I won't be wasting my time with this ***** in the near future...

I Am The Knight
02-27-2008, 08:32 AM
What about Jay Baruchel? LOL.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 08:35 AM
ROFL.... can't wait to see who gets Maxwell Lord... HAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA... damn I can't tell you how pissed I am... but whatever... its just a movie... can't wait for WB to stick the dildo up all our asses in 2009!!! WWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!

NIGHTSWING
02-27-2008, 08:35 AM
:wow: I am just thankful this might still get done. I'll worry if it's any good after I see it.

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 08:42 AM
Boy, that "Nolan hates JLA" thing will just not die.

He already came out and said he didn't mind the movie being made. It was an IGN interview I believe. So why do you keep claiming he will "walk" from the Batman franchise because of this movie?

I read that article. In fact, I started a thread in this JLA forum on that article. I want to believe him (and did shortly) but I can't now. I can't ignore that the trades have reported that Nolan's camp has not been happy with JLA. Are the trades just making that up? Nolan has said he has not given any thought to a sequel to TDK, do you believe him on that? Especially when Bale is quoted as saying that the script leaves room for something interesting to be done in the third film.

Nolan is sneaky and he is also a classy guy. He is not going to say outright he is not happy with JLA. But who wouldn't be annoyed that another director is using the character at the same time. Especially when he resurrected that franchise. And trust me, I know Nolan didn't create or own Batman and Nolan isn't God blah blah blah. But you would have to be a machine to not have that bother/annoy you.

And you (anyone) could say, fine, good riddance to Nolan then. But I guarantee you that tune will change for a lot of people when they bring in the "Ratner" type to replace him. Like I said, the Nolan Batman franchise is the only stable thing they have right now regarding superheroes. And there's a good chance, with making JLA right now, everything will blow up in WB's collective faces and they will deserve it.

sdc10
02-27-2008, 08:47 AM
the biggest problem is that the movie might and imo probably will be terribly recieved that it kills the future movies for spin offs, if nobody liked or sees this movie why would they wanna see one of the spin offs especially if they cast the same actor thats why marvel has planned ahead with iron man and hulk, if those movies are successful along with the future Thor and Captain America why wouldnt people wanna see a movie with them together?

Crook
02-27-2008, 08:54 AM
This is my fear and I'm not so sure Superman would be exempt from it, at least not for an extended period of time.
If you think about it though, that risks goes with any DC film that isn't Batman or Superman.

Nolan has said he has not given any thought to a sequel to TDK, do you believe him on that?
Yeah well, he's also been previously quoted as saying he never planned to make a BB sequel, and if he did, he wasn't even sure if Joker was gonna be in it.

Especially when Bale is quoted as saying that the script leaves room for something interesting to be done in the third film.
Which is probable, since Nolan and Goyer pitched a TRILOGY to WB. JL has nothing to do with this franchise, and I'm sure TDK will be a success for the studio, more than enough to warrant a sequel.

Nolan's not going anywhere.

And if he is....well, what a baby. :o

I Am The Knight
02-27-2008, 09:18 AM
I read that article. In fact, I started a thread in this JLA forum on that article. I want to believe him (and did shortly) but I can't now. I can't ignore that the trades have reported that Nolan's camp has not been happy with JLA. Are the trades just making that up? Nolan has said he has not given any thought to a sequel to TDK, do you believe him on that? Especially when Bale is quoted as saying that the script leaves room for something interesting to be done in the third film.

Nolan is sneaky and he is also a classy guy. He is not going to say outright he is not happy with JLA. But who wouldn't be annoyed that another director is using the character at the same time. Especially when he resurrected that franchise. And trust me, I know Nolan didn't create or own Batman and Nolan isn't God blah blah blah. But you would have to be a machine to not have that bother/annoy you.

And you (anyone) could say, fine, good riddance to Nolan then. But I guarantee you that tune will change for a lot of people when they bring in the "Ratner" type to replace him. Like I said, the Nolan Batman franchise is the only stable thing they have right now regarding superheroes. And there's a good chance, with making JLA right now, everything will blow up in WB's collective faces and they will deserve it.

I really don't want Nolan to leave that franchise. But if he does leave because of JLA, then well...He needs to grow up a bit. Now, if WB were to scrap Nolan's movies in favor of JLA sequels, THEN I think everyone should be pissed. But there's no indication of that so far.

buggs0268
02-27-2008, 09:18 AM
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981504.html?categoryid=13&cs=1



I for one am ****in pissed :o
Why are you so shocked. You guys have been *****ing all this time that JL is dead when in fact it has always been on the fast track at the WB.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 09:30 AM
I'm not shocked... I'll give credit where its due though.... Buggs called this... MOS is dead... no need for a sequel... it might still happen but I doubt it.

As for Nolan... I don't agree that he is ultra pissed... I just don't think he gives a ***** about things like this... even if Talia is in the film... who cares.. not like she would have been in BB3... and obviously Nolan won't be doing a fourth Batman film with Talia... the guy is a DIRECTOR... why the hell should he be caring about things that won't affect his work? Obviously fanboys like Flawless and myself are going to make it an issue to give fellow JLA haters something to bit.ch about but I never honetly believed it was an issue for Nolan personally. As long as he is up for it and WB gives him the funding he'll make a third regardless of how JLA does... its obvious that WB is keeping everything completely separate... their own universes... as for solo GL's and FLash movies I have no clue what continuity they'll use... thought you might as well use Hal in a GL film with the way things are looking now. But right now WB is banking on two if not three completely separate franchises for the next three years and beyond. It is what it is. I only have interest in one of those franchises... other than that... DC movies are dead to me... I'm just praying Marvel gets it right so we don't end up 0 for 2...

Maze
02-27-2008, 09:34 AM
Good.

now they must change some of the cast members ( such as Armie Hammer go for an older actor..give Wally to Brody not Barry.. And give the Superman role to an older actor with the right presence and acting chops. )and with Miller at the helm they have a potential hit on their hands.

Showtime
02-27-2008, 09:44 AM
If the are going forward with this movie, which it looks like is the case, I don't think you are going to see a cast overhaul at this point. You are getting what you are getting.

zerohour films
02-27-2008, 09:49 AM
If the are going forward with this movie, which it looks like is the case, I don't think you are going to see a cast overhaul at this point. You are getting what you are getting.

Agreed. Especially since the article stated the actors were told to keep up their respective training...and made no mention of recasting or what not.

seifergt
02-27-2008, 09:50 AM
i want to reserve judgement until at least a trailer or anything, but this is just rushed and sounds like it will be horrible. Can't comment on the acting because who knows half of them. It's not like the casting of X1 like someone has mentioned, because there were established actors(more than 1) in the movie, and it is nothing like when heath was named joker, it was a suprise but everyone knows he can act, this just seems like a straight to dvd release if it didn't have the budget it has. I would much rather have another supes movie and flash origin, with the combined budget of jla, than this poo.

Maze
02-27-2008, 09:53 AM
If the are going forward with this movie, which it looks like is the case, I don't think you are going to see a cast overhaul at this point. You are getting what you are getting.

You may be right.

but (and it is also wishful thinking) nothing about the actors is really new in this article ("and the cast has been advised to keep training for their superhero roles.").we have read about that before.things may have change there too and Variety is not in the know yet. that would not be their first"mistake".

we'll see .

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 09:54 AM
I'm not shocked... I'll give credit where its due though.... Buggs called this... MOS is dead... no need for a sequel... it might still happen but I doubt it.

As for Nolan... I don't agree that he is ultra pissed... I just don't think he gives a ***** about things like this... even if Talia is in the film... who cares.. not like she would have been in BB3... and obviously Nolan won't be doing a fourth Batman film with Talia... the guy is a DIRECTOR... why the hell should he be caring about things that won't affect his work? Obviously fanboys like Flawless and myself are going to make it an issue to give fellow JLA haters something to bit.ch about but I never honetly believed it was an issue for Nolan personally. As long as he is up for it and WB gives him the funding he'll make a third regardless of how JLA does... its obvious that WB is keeping everything completely separate... their own universes... as for solo GL's and FLash movies I have no clue what continuity they'll use... thought you might as well use Hal in a GL film with the way things are looking now. But right now WB is banking on two if not three completely separate franchises for the next three years and beyond. It is what it is. I only have interest in one of those franchises... other than that... DC movies are dead to me... I'm just praying Marvel gets it right so we don't end up 0 for 2...

I get what you're saying with the separate universes which does seem like that is the case. And if that is true, wouldn't that strengthen the case for MOS being made? Because what would MOS have to do with JLA being made?

I agree though, outside of Batman now, DC live action superhero films are dead to me. :csad:

The Guard
02-27-2008, 09:56 AM
Ah, fanboy paranoia.

Showtime
02-27-2008, 09:57 AM
I would say if this project is indeed dropping in 2009, the cast is pretty much in place, althoug as in all projects small parts are announced during production.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 10:09 AM
I get what you're saying with the separate universes which does seem like that is the case. And if that is true, wouldn't that strengthen the case for MOS being made? Because what would MOS have to do with JLA being made?

I agree though, outside of Batman now, DC live action superhero films are dead to me. :csad:

Then SR fans can still be happy... everyone can be happy... its just the pick your franchise game... maybe you stick with Nolan... maybe you stick with Singer or both... the thing is I hated what Singer brought to the table... and now that we will be stuck with the Singer/Donnerverse alone and the fact that there will be no grand connections to something bigger... I don't have an interest in that franchise... maybe if they brought in a better villain and killed the kid off I'd revisit the idea for a sequel... but that's a debate for another forum... I am just trying to see the bright side... and frankly... there are none. Other than a possible BB3...

I can see why WB didn't want to take the even bigger risk by playing the waiting game and hanging their hopes that everything would fall into place... when your biggest character dissappoints at the B.O its understandable. The fact that 2009 was shaping up to be a lameduck year for comic book films made that slot very enticing for WB to get this project in there... so good for them for sticking to their guts and going for it... maybe they know something we don't... maybe Miller knows what he's doing... frankly I could care less because I don't give a rats ass about this film aside from the fact that it is the next major DC tentpole film after TDK.

Mister J
02-27-2008, 10:12 AM
If you think about it though, that risks goes with any DC film that isn't Batman or Superman.
I don't think so,not as fully at least. There's enough variance between the other DC heroes that you can strike different chords and/or provide an allure with those characters;an intergalactic police force with a weapon only limited by imagination vs. an Amazonian princess steeped in mythology vs. a wise-cracking master of motion with colorful, team-based rogues vs an underwater epic headed by a noble figure. One of those films being underwhelming would raise more scrutiny on another non-Bats/Supes project, but I could the corporate decision being made of "Well, this is another type of film and they haven't seen this character yet."

If you put all these guys on the screen together and the movie still gathers a lukewarm (or worse) response, trotting one of the lesser known member just seems redundant after it making a minimal difference in the ensemble piece. It'd just be simpler to go back to what's proven to have an audience, i.e. Bruce and Clark. Just as a financially successful JLA vehicle is going to increase (or almost guarantee) the prospects for a new solo film, a disappointing box office return here is going to do the exact opposite.

phil
02-27-2008, 10:23 AM
Brody is just as much of a joke as Cortona. Brody is skinny, he looks about as much of a Flash as Hillary Clinton looks like she could play WW. Brody does not fit the bill at all!

EternalMaster
02-27-2008, 11:06 AM
Brody is just as much of a joke as Cortona. Brody is skinny, he looks about as much of a Flash as Hillary Clinton looks like she could play WW. Brody does not fit the bill at all!

I can understand you thinking Brody isn't a good fit, but you pick on his skinniness?

1) Flash is much leaner in build than other superheroes. He still looks kinda buff in comics because EVERYONE (even average people) are drawn as being rather large in comics.

2) Even if weight was an issue, people can go through conditioning for their roles.

Jamie Madrox
02-27-2008, 11:27 AM
We don't know for sure if the cast of Brody, Cotrona, Gale, Common and Hammer are all still attached. The movie's a go, but that doesn't mean the original cast is as well.

Don't fret about a cast that's not even official yet. They could turn around and hire completely different actors all together. It could happen.

Showtime
02-27-2008, 11:31 AM
Not likely. They wouldn't say the movie was dropping so quickly if they had to recast? Where did you get that theory?

Jamie Madrox
02-27-2008, 11:47 AM
I just thought that might of been one of the reasons the movie is coming along so fast.

I kinda doubt it, but still, ya never know.

TheVileOne
02-27-2008, 11:54 AM
I'm still very skeptical of this news, but let's see what happens this time. Obviously

rdh007
02-27-2008, 12:07 PM
Wait a minute. They're still going forward with a skinny latino Superman? I don't mind that they cast a latino cat, I just wish he looked remotely like the rest of the incarnations I've seen of Supes. Also, is he 6'8" so he's taller than Batman (Hammer)?

Supes or GL are my favorites and they really screwed up Supes. :down

Crook
02-27-2008, 12:12 PM
He's much closer to 5'8" than he is 6'8"

Super_Ludacris
02-27-2008, 12:12 PM
I know this might be stating the over-obvious and in some cases preaching to the choir but the whole Justice League v MOS thing is kinda bizzarre.

Now, anyone who knows me and has seen me post, knows I really couldnt give 2 ****s about either franchise.Im kinda indifferent in an otherwise heated debate when comes to these 2 movies. Im not anti-routh/singer nor pro-routh/singer and although I did and still think that the idea of rushing out something random as this was stupid. Still, it wasnt like I was gonna picket outside WB to stop them and I was probably gonna check it out with a smirk and cynics state of mind. And that would have been fun still.

But I gotta say its kinda bizzarre that there going with this. And its not like they havent denied SR getting a sequel. But clearly it seems dead. I have to wonder though. is this the answer? Like even though SR was not a big flop and barely broke even domestically, I would have figured it still made enough for a sequel (not that I care but still....). And if it was because money was the issue, is this JL movie really answer?

EDIT: I meant to say, how does Harold and Kumar get a sequel and these guys dont? lol

All these decisions in the boardroom seem really pedestrian when you consider this is Warner Brothers, a studio with a great reputation for cranking out hits. I mean if this was Fox who are kinda hacky and wishy washy I would understand, but this is very strange.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 12:13 PM
I'm still very skeptical of this news, but let's see what happens this time. Obviously

Just let reality sink in... I don't know why everyone (myself included) was so quick to write off a JLA for 09 just because of the strike... I mean damn... its not even March... they got a crew in place... a production team... a set and location, a director and cast... all they needed to do was perfect the script and start filming... they would hav been done by September... as soon as the strike ended I was worried... kept my fingers crossed everyday... WB just couldn't help themselves... they needed a money maker in 2009... now many of us have to suffer.

I Am The Knight
02-27-2008, 12:23 PM
Just let reality sink in... I don't know why everyone (myself included) was so quick to write off a JLA for 09 just because of the strike... I mean damn... its not even March... they got a crew in place... a production team... a set and location, a director and cast... all they needed to do was perfect the script and start filming... they would hav been done by September... as soon as the strike ended I was worried... kept my fingers crossed everyday... WB just couldn't help themselves... they needed a money maker in 2009... now many of us have to suffer.

Just don't watch it....:grin:

Showtime
02-27-2008, 12:33 PM
I didn't think this movie was going to happen, not because I didn't want to, but because I didn't think it was going to vault over the obstacles it was facing. That being said, I trust Variety more than I trust any other website, not saying they couldn't be wrong because anything can happen.

What my problem has been with this movie was some of the possible story arcs in the script and some of the casting rumors. Hopefully the rumors are now addressed and we can actually hear some facts and we can judge the story and announced cast from there.

Adam Brody: He was the one announcement I really didn't mind. I think this guy is a riot on tv and in movies. I think he'll provide a nice lighthearted take on Flash. The only problem is his body structure, but I think that will be solved one way or another.

Common: I can't say anything bad about this guy. Haven't seen much of his acting or heard much of his work in music, but he looks the part.

Megan Gale: She looks like Wonder Woman, I give a perfect casting nod on the selection for look. Acting? No idea.

The rest of the superhero cast is sort of up in the air. My question is who is playing Superman. I think it's safe to say Arnie Hammer is in the movie, but is this guy Batman and Porter or Controna playing Superman?

bunk
02-27-2008, 12:35 PM
Won't both Wally and Barry be in this movie? Barry maybe just in flashbacks though. Has there been a rumored casting for Barry?

zerohour films
02-27-2008, 12:40 PM
I didn't think this movie was going to happen, not because I didn't want to, but because I didn't think it was going to vault over the obstacles it was facing. That being said, I trust Variety more than I trust any other website, not saying they couldn't be wrong because anything can happen.

What my problem has been with this movie was some of the possible story arcs in the script and some of the casting rumors. Hopefully the rumors are now addressed and we can actually hear some facts and we can judge the story and announced cast from there.

Adam Brody: He was the one announcement I really didn't mind. I think this guy is a riot on tv and in movies. I think he'll provide a nice lighthearted take on Flash. The only problem is his body structure, but I think that will be solved one way or another.

Common: I can't say anything bad about this guy. Haven't seen much of his acting or heard much of his work in music, but he looks the part.

Megan Gale: She looks like Wonder Woman, I give a perfect casting nod on the selection for look. Acting? No idea.

The rest of the superhero cast is sort of up in the air. My question is who is playing Superman. I think it's safe to say Arnie Hammer is in the movie, but is this guy Batman and Porter or Controna playing Superman?

Agreed on all counts and yes this is the million dollar question. I can't understand how the casting of those characters for the film has remained such a mystery. But maybe that in and of itself is telling. I mean if you have cast unknowns or relatively unknown people in those roles then I imagine it would be easy for that to stay hidden. Same applies to the other hero/villian roles.

Hopefully the truth will be revealed soon enough, I mean if we are to believe as the article says that they are going for an '09 release than they would have to be filming in the next few months correct? At the very least by June wouldn't you all think?

JohnRico
02-27-2008, 12:40 PM
I would rather have Colossus as Superman then that other guy :o

04nbod
02-27-2008, 12:55 PM
lets all keep an open mind here. Word is they have an great script and they have a great director.

Showtime
02-27-2008, 01:18 PM
They said they had a great script before production was halted, partly because it needed rewrites.

I wouldn't classify George Miller as a great director.

jmc
02-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Anyone willing to put money on another article appearing in the next few days again contradicting the status of this films future?

Showtime
02-27-2008, 01:26 PM
I wouldn't be suprised.

zerohour films
02-27-2008, 01:31 PM
Anyone willing to put money on another article appearing in the next few days again contradicting the status of this films future?

This is JL so yes that would not be surprising in the least. Hell we have already had as much in the last few days between the tax rebate/possible relocation to Canada article and the one today.

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 01:33 PM
Anyone willing to put money on another article appearing in the next few days again contradicting the status of this films future?

It is strange that just two days ago there was an article that quoted Miller as saying the movie's status was "precarious". But, who knows how long ago he actually said that.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 01:37 PM
Yea we will just have to wait and see what happens with the cast in the coming months. Yes i hope hammer isnt bats and they can get someone a little older and better for the role. No one is official for the cast. Also when the film got delayed the only roles we knew for sure who was who was megan for ww and common for gl who came out and said they are/were going to be ww and gl. As for superman role i hope wb isnt stupid(yea they are pretty stupid at times) and do not have DJ controna as superman. We need someone better looks wise and can protray the character better like welling, hell i mentioned before if porter rumor is back i would take him over dj any day. But we just have to and see whats officially comes out of WB's mouth in the coming months.

jmc
02-27-2008, 01:47 PM
It is strange that just two days ago there was an article that quoted Miller as saying the movie's status was "precarious". But, who knows how long ago he actually said that.

True, could have been weeks ago he said it, although that Variety article could be old to. I think there's the possibility that even though within the space of a few days we've gotten two completely contradicting reports, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle of both of them. Perhaps the films future isn't 100% assured but they're going ahead anyway hoping for a '09 release.

Showtime
02-27-2008, 02:24 PM
We will just have to wait and see

:woot:

payneintherear
02-27-2008, 02:33 PM
YES! I am excited about this project. It has only been just Batman and Superman movies from DC while Marvel has released Spider-Man movies, X-Men movies, Hulk movies, Fantastic Four movies, and a bunch of other movies. DC needs to catch up with Marvel. My only problem with the Justice League movie is that I have never heard of any of the actors in the movie.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 02:35 PM
Just don't watch it....:grin:

I can't help myself though... can't get these stupid ass characters and movies out of my system... although I honestly never was a huge Justice League guy anyways... I can wait a week or so till it finds its way on my computer :woot: ...

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 02:48 PM
:woot:

Webhead should just put that in his sig. :grin:

Showtime
02-27-2008, 03:28 PM
No doubt about it. He reminds me of a young Showtime029.

DIRECTOR
02-27-2008, 03:36 PM
anybody posting pics of the cast?

KBX
02-27-2008, 04:23 PM
Got any guessing on the release date? May seems full, so I would think a date somewhere between June-July seems right....

Sub-Zero
02-27-2008, 04:26 PM
wow. i think we can officially say there is no god if this movie keeps going.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 04:52 PM
How do i do a sig?

ClarkLuther55
02-27-2008, 05:08 PM
YES! I am excited about this project. It has only been just Batman and Superman movies from DC while Marvel has released Spider-Man movies, X-Men movies, Hulk movies, Fantastic Four movies, and a bunch of other movies. DC needs to catch up with Marvel. My only problem with the Justice League movie is that I have never heard of any of the actors in the movie.

DC doesn't need to "catch up" to Marvel. BOTH companies have done a crappy job of bringing their comics to the big screen. While DC can't launch any movie not about Batman or Superman, Marvel just cranks out a lot of subpar and downright bad movies.

The Man of Steel
02-27-2008, 05:20 PM
Yay

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 05:24 PM
Here you go baadshah2:

Adam Brody/the flash
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/67/05/0000006705_20060920135442.jpg

Megan gale/ wonder woman
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5882901,00.jpg

common/ john stewart green lantern
http://www.abortmag.com/abortpegs/common.jpg

Hugh Keays-Byrne /The martian manhunter(rumored)
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/HughKeaysByrne.jpg

Armie hammer jr/ The batman(rumored)
http://www.desperateblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/desperate-housewives-408-15.jpg

Superman(?)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Superman.jpg

Aquaman(?)
http://www.comicbookreligion.com/img/a/Aquaman.jpg

Antonello Blueberry
02-27-2008, 05:25 PM
wow. i think we can officially say there is no god if this movie keeps going.
80.000 persons died because of an unjustified was in the last few years, and you say there's no god because they're greenlightning a JLA movie with a cast you don't like?
What's your religion? Nerdism?

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 05:27 PM
wow. i think we can officially say there is no god if this movie keeps going.

I thought Spider-Man 3 and FF 2 were already proof of that. :oldrazz: :woot:

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 05:28 PM
80.000 persons died because of an unjustified was in the last few years, and you say there's no god because they're greenlightning a JLA movie with a cast you don't like?
What's your religion? Nerdism?

Yeah, mate. Nerds really overreact sometimes. :grin:

echostation
02-27-2008, 05:35 PM
this film is so going to suck... suck so hardcore

protocida
02-27-2008, 05:36 PM
Nerds are the worse creatures in the universe.

I Bet that none of you believed in ''Spider-Man'' or ''X-men'' before it came out. ''Justice League'' has everything to be a ****ing good movie.

Antonello Blueberry
02-27-2008, 05:46 PM
Nerds are the worse creatures in the universe.

I Bet that none of you believed in ''Spider-Man'' or ''X-men'' before it came out.
A 6ft2 Australian as Wolverine? You must be jokin! Noone will ever go to see this crapfest!
:funny:

Sub-Zero
02-27-2008, 06:03 PM
the god thing was just a joke. i didn't mean it as a serious comment. you guys need to chill.

out of all of these kids that are rumored to be in this movie, only a few of them have enough acting experience. its hard to believe that a major studio will be banking on them. this could very well be the most expensive movie of all time, and it could tank at the box office.

explode7
02-27-2008, 06:05 PM
Man I wish I was 6'2" tall. There is definitely no god in this world. :csad:

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 06:05 PM
the god thing was just a joke. i didn't mean it as a serious comment. you guys need to chill.

out of all of these kids that are rumored to be in this movie, only a few of them have enough acting experience. its hard to believe that a major studio will be banking on them. this could very well be the most expensive movie of all time, and it could tank at the box office.

I knew you were joking. :grin:

Since when are people in their 20's and 30's kids?

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 06:06 PM
why do u all says these kids the only young person from the confirmed/rumored cast is hammer he is 21 while common/gale/and if that brynes dude is mm they are all over 30yrs old.

explode7
02-27-2008, 06:07 PM
:wow: Nearly everyone in the cast is over 30 years old? Dayum.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 06:11 PM
So Batman is the youngest JLA member? I should have guessed it...

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 06:18 PM
Well firstly we dont know if he will indeed end up as batman plus we dont know what age they are going to make him be. Also if he is playing a few yrs older then he is they could use makeup to make him look older. But personally if they are having the batman character be 25-32yrs old range they should get an actor around that age to be him.

Sub-Zero
02-27-2008, 06:19 PM
so who is confirmed. i'm going by the complete cast list from months ago. last i heard supes and bats weren't going to be in it, which would've been good for their franchises but bad for the league. unless this movie was based on the silver age jla

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 06:20 PM
Well a 25-30 year old Batman on the Justice League always made sense I guess...

Maze
02-27-2008, 06:22 PM
While it doesn't actually acknowledge the internet rumors about the status and troubles of George Miller's Justice League, a new Variety article carefully refutes them. The piece is essentially a bit of fluff, announcing that Warner Bros is still 100% behind the movie and the film is still on track for a 2009 release. Delayed release rumors dealt with, the article moves on to other things: it says that George Miller is in pre-production... in Australia, not Canada. And in an attempt to subtly deny the rumors that Superman and Batman are being written out of the film, it mentions Armie Hammer Jr* as the Caped Crusader.

It's funny to see Warner Bros addressing all of these through a plant in the trades, but it doesn't fill me with any more hope. I don't doubt that many of the rumors that have been flying about the film are false, but I do know that some are true, such as the studio's basic unhappiness with the cast. Everything in that article could change, especially the casting - the piece even mentions that when the movie was put on hiatus in January all of the cast options were allowed to expire. Warner Bros could totally dump Armie Hammer Jr and move forward.

The article also mentions that the script is getting another polish and will be delivered in a couple of weeks. Quint at Aint It Cool is hearing that the current script still retains Batman and Superman, but my understanding is that the current script is the same one they had before the strike. What'll be telling will be the script that gets handed in next - it'll have all of the thoughts and arguments of the strike reflected, as well as possibly the complaints of the internet.

In the meantime, this farce remains on. I look forward to eating my words on this one, but I think George Miller is going to take this one right up his chocolate Starro the Conqueror.

*His name is child abuse.


http://chud.com/articles/articles/13799/1/HAS-THE-JUSTICE-LEAGUE-EVADED-A-DEATH-TRAP/Page1.html

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 06:27 PM
only people who have been officially confirmed/came out and said they were signed was gale for ww and common for gl in interviews after the film got delayed last month. The rest of the cast we dont know for sure brody is pretty much was/is a lock for flash the rest nothing confirmed and in all reality roles could easily be recast before the film starts filming in a few months if indeed it does happen.

Nirvana
02-27-2008, 06:27 PM
Bigger than Spider-man 3? X-Men 3? Fantastic Four?

I honestly believe so, yes. First of all, those films at least had a decent cast. Second, going with tween or whatever is the worse idea ever. I mean seriously, they should just focus on getting Superman off the ground.

Maze
02-27-2008, 06:30 PM
only people who have been officially confirmed/came out and said they were signed was gale for ww and common for gl in interviews after the film got delayed last month. The rest of the cast we dont know for sure brody is pretty much was/is a lock for flash the rest nothing confirmed and in all reality roles could easily be recast before the film starts filming in a few months if indeed it does happen.

Yes ..

We will just have to wait and see :o :woot: :cwink:

Superman-Prime
02-27-2008, 06:31 PM
~CAST PICS~

Wow! What a joke.

I can tell that JLA is gonna be a huge FAIL.

FAIL!

explode7
02-27-2008, 06:46 PM
^The bad thing is if JLA do end up the fail everyone is thinking that would be the end of future Batman and Superman movies as well as future possibilities for Flash, WW, GL and Aquaman movies.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 06:50 PM
Yea that is possible but it is way to early to judge the film, we dont have the official cast, no footage and we dont know for sure if the omac/max lord idea is still going to happen or if it is going to be something totally different. Hopefully in the coming months we get everything straighten out.

DanSupKP37
02-27-2008, 07:56 PM
I would love to be a fly on the wall in a WB meeting to hear their reasons for why JLA at this time is anything but a disasterous idea. This has BOMB written all over it and it is going to take DC solo films down with it for years to come. I would not be shocked if this thing is literally Batman and Robin BAD, especially with this cast that feels like a CW version of a TV movie is being made.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 08:03 PM
ok if u want CW tv movie then lets take the smallville justice leage of impulse, cyborg, aquaman, green arrow, clark, and black canery, and martian manhunter.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 08:38 PM
ok if u want CW tv movie then lets take the smallville justice leage of impulse, cyborg, aquaman, green arrow, clark, and black canery, and martian manhunter.

Be real... this is a 200 million dollar budget film... and this is the kind of cast that you bring in Miller? Probably because you haven't directed full time live action in years and you couldn't bring anyone else on board even with the supposedly AMAZING script... I mean I'll be honest I have NEVER heard this kind of backlash for a comic book film still a year and a half a way... from the fan boys no less... who are they gonna bring in at this point... WHO ARE THEY POSSIBLY GOING TO BRING IN? Collin Farrel gonna have second thoughts about giving Bruce Wayne a shot? No... Jude Law? Okay... not that anyone would want those two... Eric Bana gonna revisit the Superhero genre? I think not... help me out here guys... I'm running out of names... bottom line is... its going to be an unknown for Supes on a TV show... and it looks to be the same for Batman... I mean at the very least... give me a 36 year old for Batman... not this garbage... anything but this garbage... frankly I just don't see who they can sign at this point... filming is in 3 months it seems.

Chaos Bringer
02-27-2008, 08:45 PM
i'm thinking this project is going to be like a car accident. you don't want to watch but you cannot help looking at the wreck.

The Guard
02-27-2008, 08:46 PM
If the studio was unhappy with the cast, one imagines they would, you know...do something about it, since they're footing the bill and all.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 09:17 PM
They are overestimating the drawing power of these characters... they need to double check SR's numbers...

bunk
02-27-2008, 09:20 PM
i'm thinking this project is going to be like a car accident. you don't want to watch but you cannot help looking at the wreck.

Yeah, there aren't too many bright spots so far... It's all pretty dodgy except for WETA doing some work on it.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 09:27 PM
Who knows what is going to happen between now and when the film starts in a few months for all we know wb could change their minds on the cast of right now for other people as i have said many times we just got to wait and see what happens.

ClarkLuther55
02-27-2008, 09:41 PM
Who knows what is going to happen between now and when the film starts in a few months for all we know wb could change their minds on the cast of right now for other people as i have said many times we just got to wait and see what happens.

That this movie is still going forward is already bad news. And so what if the WB completely overhauls the cast? They're supposedly going to start filming really soon. That there are still questions about the core cast at this point shows that the WB has no plan. They're making up crap as they go along.

Justice League has already failed to achieve all the goals behind rushing it into production. They couldn't get Bale, so this movie won't be the tie in to the Nolan movies that the WB was probably hoping for when they picked Talia of all people to be the big bad. The solo films are now in the early stages of development, with no intention of being in the same continuity or even using the same actors or characters. This movie couldn't beat the writer's strike, and now the WB might not even get the Australian tax breaks it wanted.

The worst thing the fans can do is to be silent and accept this crap. That kind of attitude is what enables crappy movies to be made. Fans have the power to stop this, even if it is a long shot. Just look at the Jack Black Green Lantern movie.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 09:53 PM
Actually most of the rumors are of the film starting in april or starting in june so it is not that soon and casting can always change on a whim. It happens all the time in films.

claydogg
02-27-2008, 09:53 PM
Is there some reason Tom Welling isn't getting the role as superman?:huh:

ClarkLuther55
02-27-2008, 09:55 PM
April or June is one to three months away...and they STILL haven't decided on whether to keep their abominable core cast. That shows to me that the WB has no idea what the hell they're doing.

KBX
02-27-2008, 09:59 PM
^ So just because the WB hasn't email, contacted, called, yelled out, screamed, posted, told you who exactly every character is, for a movie that is about 3-4 months away from filming, they have no idea what the hell they're doing....

come on now...

KBX
02-27-2008, 10:00 PM
Is there some reason Tom Welling isn't getting the role as superman?:huh:

He's obligated 1st to Smallville...

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 10:00 PM
Well we dont know what is really going on since WB hasnt officially said anything. For all we know they could be in the process of recasting/changing roles and we wouldnt even know.

KBX
02-27-2008, 10:02 PM
Anybody post this yet?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981560.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Warner Bros. is hoping for director George Miller (javascript:zodInfuser.FillDescriptions('George Miller');) to begin lensing superhero extravaganza "Justice League" (http://www.variety.com/profiles/TVSeries/main/157042/Justice%20League.html?dataSet=1) in mid-July. The project has been off-and-on in the last several months, as the script needed work.
The minute the strike was over, scribes Kiernan and Michele Mulroney (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/751621/Michele%20Mulroney.html?dataSet=1) began rewriting the "Justice League" script. Studio is hoping to get a draft in the next six weeks.

Webhead2006
02-27-2008, 10:06 PM
nope i dont think so, nice find.

ClarkLuther55
02-27-2008, 10:14 PM
^ So just because the WB hasn't email, contacted, called, yelled out, screamed, posted, told you who exactly every character is, for a movie that is about 3-4 months away from filming, they have no idea what the hell they're doing....

come on now...

Do you really think that a movie that

1. fails at the very objectives behind production (i.e. beating the strike)

2. required major recent script rewrites, because the original story BLATANTLY sounded like it was piggy-backing off of Batman Begins, which is only sort of in semi vague continuity now

3. was supposed to launch solo movies, which now won't be in the same continuity or even use the same actors

4. tried and failed to get Jessica Biel (who will sign on for just about any crap movie, but rejected THIS one) and settled for an Australian model-slash-actress with no actual acting experience instead

5. has a 21 year old kid as Batman

6. has a sleazy looking 5'9 nobody as Superman

7. might just ditch its entire crappy cast a month or two before filming supposedly starts

sounds like a project that's on track, with a clear vision behind it?

"come on now..."

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 10:20 PM
Anybody post this yet?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981560.html?categoryid=13&cs=1


Warner Bros. is hoping for director George Miller (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:zodInfuser.FillDescriptions%28%27George%20Mil ler%27%29;) to begin lensing superhero extravaganza "Justice League" (http://www.variety.com/profiles/TVSeries/main/157042/Justice%20League.html?dataSet=1) in mid-July.

Now WB is hoping? Didn't the last Variety article basically state it was a definite go?

KBX
02-27-2008, 10:26 PM
Since this is apparently on-again off-again project, and know one really knows whats going on, I think they just used the word "hope" as to say their cautious...

Showtime
02-27-2008, 10:30 PM
Wait...I think the Variety writers aren't communicating with each other at this point?

Lighthouse
02-27-2008, 10:31 PM
LOL!! The writers are supposed to turn in a draft within the next 6 weeks??? Wow, WB really was completely bull****ing when they said the writer's strike hadn't affected the script. I thought it'd be a quick polish, but they are basically overhauling the whole damn thing.

Showtime
02-27-2008, 10:34 PM
That seems like a long period of time to me, considering the time after the strike, and not to mention during the strike...

KBX
02-27-2008, 10:34 PM
Do you really think that a movie that

1. fails at the very objectives behind production (i.e. beating the strike)

2. required major recent script rewrites, because the original story BLATANTLY sounded like it was piggy-backing off of Batman Begins, which is only sort of in semi vague continuity now

3. was supposed to launch solo movies, which now won't be in the same continuity or even use the same actors

4. tried and failed to get Jessica Biel (who will sign on for just about any crap movie, but rejected THIS one) and settled for an Australian model-slash-actress with no actual acting experience instead

5. has a 21 year old kid as Batman

6. has a sleazy looking 5'9 nobody as Superman

7. might just ditch its entire crappy cast a month or two before filming supposedly starts

sounds like a project that's on track, with a clear vision behind it?

"come on now..."

A project like this, WB has no choice but to get as many script rewrites as possible. Im glad they decided to delay it after the strike. It showed they are being careful with it.

Any solo movies doesn't have to be the same character, any their probably won't be any until about 3 years when JL is done. So what if Biel turned it down, Gale could be a better choice. Heck I even read a report that Miller wanted Gale over Biel. Its all a he said, she said arguement.

Sups has yet been casted, and Hammer until proven otherwise haven't given you any reason for you to believe he can't act like Batman. Who cares about age, as long as he looks fine. Heck, good thats hes only 21, he can play Bats for about 5 movies!!!!

You don't know whats going on with the cast, no one does, only the WB. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if they knew who was who, just didn't want to announce it.

bunk
02-27-2008, 10:36 PM
Hell, if they need another 6 weeks to make it quality, then I'm not complaining.

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 10:42 PM
Sups has yet been casted, and Hammer until proven otherwise haven't given you any reason for you to believe he can't act like Batman. Who cares about age, as long as he looks fine.

He doesn't look fine to me. :o And I've seen the clips from Desperate Housewives.

Heck, good thats hes only 21,

Shouldn't Bruce Wayne be traveling the world at that age? :rolleyes:

he can play Bats for about 5 movies!!!!

No thanks. :down

You don't know whats going on with the cast, no one does, only the WB. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if they knew who was who, just didn't want to announce it.

I sure hope they know who is who. Aren't they the ones making the film?

FlawlessVictory
02-27-2008, 10:43 PM
Hell, if they need another 6 weeks to make it quality, then I'm not complaining.

If they need 6 weeks to make it quality, then what was it to begin with? :csad: You know, when WB was going ape**** over the original draft and immediately put it on the fast track.

Showtime
02-27-2008, 10:44 PM
That is what I don't understand. It was supposed to be the best script since Chinatown.

KBX
02-27-2008, 10:48 PM
FlawlessVictory;14180918]He doesn't look fine to me. :o And I've seen the clips from Desperate Housewives.

Your gonna need more than some 2-min clip from Desperate Housewives.

Shouldn't Bruce Wayne be traveling the world at that age? :rolleyes:

I believe you are correct. But this movie isn't based on Hammer at age 21.


I sure hope they know who is who. Aren't they the ones making the film?

I was referring to the other poster, complaining about why we don't know every character yet.

jmc
02-27-2008, 11:28 PM
If they need 6 weeks to make it quality, then what was it to begin with? :csad: You know, when WB was going ape**** over the original draft and immediately put it on the fast track.

Maybe the 'polishing' is more like a 'repainting' job. :woot:

Showtime
02-27-2008, 11:33 PM
Or a demolition.

bunk
02-27-2008, 11:36 PM
I was just outside, and I'm pretty sure I saw a the Hall of Justice set being airlifted into Canada. Not sure though... It's dark outside.

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 11:42 PM
Talia will be gone from the script if they need six weeks.... no doubt in my mind... the Mulrouneys' are probably like... "okay no Bale or Routh... um... wait... WB is still going forward with this? Nah the strike will do it in...." (strike ends)... "crap... strikes over... better put together another hapass script in six weeks..." But anyway... it still won't be enough... there will be no Superman dying in MOS and written out of JLA for the beginning... there will be no Batman getting kicked out from the league... so IMO they are just going to start from scratch and figure out how to cut down Batman's role. Probably do something simple. Or maybe he'll be fighting Superman throughout up until the end. Still... its not nearly enough... but rewriting the script is a start.

Rated-RKO
02-27-2008, 11:42 PM
I'm from Australia and a magazine called Women's Weekly has an interview with Megan Gale in it. The interesting thing about this interview is that it mentions a cast member 4 Justice Legaue whose name was highly speculated but never officially confirmed, that being DJ Cotrona. Since this is an interview with Megan herself and his name was mentioned, I think its pretty safe 2 say that he is confirmed. So there u have it, as much as I hate 2 say it DJ Cotrona is Superman. This information isn't mentioned in the link but is in the full interview in the magazine itself. http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384226

FaT_tONle
02-27-2008, 11:47 PM
I'm from Australia and a magazine called Women's Weekly has an interview with Megan Gale in it. The interesting thing about this interview is that it mentions a cast member 4 Justice Legaue whose name was highly speculated but never officially confirmed, that being DJ Cotrona. Since this is an interview with Megan herself and his name was mentioned, I think its pretty safe 2 say that he is confirmed. So there u have it, as much as I hate 2 say it DJ Cotrona is Superman. This information isn't mentioned in the link but is in the full interview in the magazine itself. http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384226

I'll take your word for it... welcome to the Hype... now someone do me a favor and hire a hit crew on this cast... or at least Cotrona and Hammer...

bunk
02-27-2008, 11:49 PM
I think I'd prefer Cotrona as Bats, and Hammer as Supes.

Jake Cassidy
02-27-2008, 11:53 PM
I'll take your word for it... welcome to the Hype... now someone do me a favor and hire a hit crew on this cast... or at least Cotrona and Hammer...

I'm tempted to hire a hit crew on fanboys. The world would be a much better place without whiney little *****es. :oldrazz:

Rated-RKO
02-27-2008, 11:54 PM
I'm from Australia and a magazine called Women's Weekly has an interview with Megan Gale in it. The interesting thing about this interview is that it mentions 2 cast members 4 Justice Legaue whose names were highly speculated but never officially confirmed, those being Adam Brody and DJ Cotrona. Since this is an interview with Megan herself and these names were mentioned, I think its pretty safe 2 say that they r confirmed. So there u have it, as much as I hate 2 say it DJ Cotrona is Superman. This information isn't mentioned in the link but is in the full interview in the magazine itself. http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384226

Antonello Blueberry
02-28-2008, 04:08 AM
That is what I don't understand. It was supposed to be the best script since Chinatown.
The original version done by the Mulroneys. But now thay're polishing Miller's rewrite.

Hectorminator
02-28-2008, 04:32 AM
I'm a Marvel guy, but I love a lot of DC characters, Batman, the Flash, Supes, Green Lantern, basically the Justice League. And there is no reason that DC shouldn't be having the success at the box office like Marvel is.

The Marvel movies have been dominating hollywood for eight years now, with an equal amount of hits and misses, but I think that Marvel was incredibly smart to get ahold of the rights to their own characters, and the direction that they're going in right now looks really, really promising. Iron Man looks amazing, Hulk sounds freakin' awesome.

In my opinion, Batman Begins is not the perfect Bat movie yet, and The Dark Knight looks a lot better, but I know that Begins was still well-made, even if it wasn't my cup of tea. And I always have the Bruce Timm DVDs to watch, so I'm not complaining. And I really enjoyed most of Superman Returns, both franchises having potential. But Justice League seems doomed from the start.

It feels like WB doesn't understand how big a deal this franchise is. Or they heard that Marvel is planning on doing Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and then an Avengers movie and waned to beat them to the punch. Only problem is that they've been putting off doing a Wonder Woman movie, a Flash movie, a Green Lantern movie, and a Superman sequel. The way a Justice League movie should be made, you know, to make it EPIC.

Instead they're doing a two-hour episode of Smallville. So, you suck WB. Everybody who greenlit this thing, you suck. Everybody who casted all these little kids, you suck. You might as well make a "Teen Titans" movie, WB. The Justice League has a roster of ADULTS. You know Alex Ross? Look him up, he's got the right idea.

Showtime
02-28-2008, 04:36 AM
The original version done by the Mulroneys. But now thay're polishing Miller's rewrite.

So the script was fantastic, then Miller ruined, and now it is taking them 6 weeks to make it fantastic again. Strange.

jmc
02-28-2008, 04:40 AM
Why not just go back to the original script and touch that up if Miller screwed up so much? :huh:

The War Machine
02-28-2008, 05:00 AM
I'm from Australia and a magazine called Women's Weekly has an interview with Megan Gale in it. The interesting thing about this interview is that it mentions 2 cast members 4 Justice Legaue whose names were highly speculated but never officially confirmed, those being Adam Brody and DJ Cotrona. Since this is an interview with Megan herself and these names were mentioned, I think its pretty safe 2 say that they r confirmed. So there u have it, as much as I hate 2 say it DJ Cotrona is Superman. This information isn't mentioned in the link but is in the full interview in the magazine itself. http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384226

holy ****

hope its wrong

dark_b
02-28-2008, 05:12 AM
That is what I don't understand. It was supposed to be the best script since Chinatown.i never belived tha tteh first script was soooo good.

it is obvious that the studio would praise the script.

they are always lying.

dark_b
02-28-2008, 05:14 AM
Why not just go back to the original script and touch that up if Miller screwed up so much? :huh:because this is obviously not what happened.
if you have a good script and if your director destroys teh story you go back to the first script.

its obvious that everyone from WB are all lying.

jmc
02-28-2008, 05:31 AM
Only problem is that they've been putting off doing a Wonder Woman movie, a Flash movie, a Green Lantern movie, and a Superman sequel. The way a Justice League movie should be made, you know, to make it EPIC.

The problem with keeping the same continuity for each character and then ending with a JL film is the shear logistics in doing it. Not impossible, but problematic. First problem was that Justice League was only ever mooted after Batman and Superman returned to the screen, both were vastly different in interpretation, Nolan went for grounded and plausible, Singer stuck with a more Donner inspired version, both don't fit in each others universes, so there's the first hurdle. Had WB from the start wanted to create a grand DC movie series ending in a JL film things could have been more smoother, but then you still run into the problem of director interpretation. You also then run into the problem of limiting what you can and can't do to the characters in trying to establish a single continuity. For example, if a SM film establishes rule X, a WW film has to also comply with rule X even if breaking that rule would work better for the WW film. If each movie doesn't follow each others rules, throwing them together in a grand finale JL film could have contradicting circumstances and give off a sense of artificiality. I get why people would want to see a JL film be the climax of a DC film series and have all the same cast etc, but I think different JL continuity is for the better. Let JL do it's own thing and let solo SM, BM, WW, FL and GL projects do their's.

Antonello Blueberry
02-28-2008, 05:31 AM
because this is obviously not what happened.
if you have a good script and if your director destroys teh story you go back to the first script.

If the director puts in the movie a scene with a fight between Aquaman and the Omacs, that scene has been budget approved, storyboarded and pre-animated, but lack consistency of characterization, you keep the scene and rewrite the dialogues.

The same goes for scenes axed for budget reasons. You can't go back to a script that still has those scenes.

Antonello Blueberry
02-28-2008, 05:32 AM
i never belived tha tteh first script was soooo good.

it is obvious that the studio would praise the script.

they are always lying.
The fact is it wasn't praised just by the studio. Blacklist, remember?

dark_b
02-28-2008, 05:38 AM
well antonello if this is how this happened then WB is again throwing away money.

Antonello Blueberry
02-28-2008, 05:40 AM
well antonello if this is how this happened then WB is again throwing away money.
They simply trusted in Miller's ability to produce a draft of the script with hi ideas and without the help of the screenwriters; they were someway forced to do it because of the strike. If Miller had produced a perfect script, they should have already started shooting.

ClarkLuther55
02-28-2008, 06:11 AM
A project like this, WB has no choice but to get as many script rewrites as possible. Im glad they decided to delay it after the strike. It showed they are being careful with it.

So careful they managed to screw it up so bad already? So careful that they're putting ALL of their superheroes on the line with this movie? You're not "careful" just because someone in your company had the shred of sanity to delay this movie.

Any solo movies doesn't have to be the same character

So they're not even trying to build a cohesive movie universe. Which meant that one of the goals behind rushing JL into production is moot.

Heck I even read a report that Miller wanted Gale over Biel.

He can pursue whatever actress in hollywood, but he wants Gale?

Hammer until proven otherwise haven't given you any reason for you to believe he can't act like Batman.

This is not a criminal trial. It's not innocent until proven guilty. He has yet to prove that he can act the role. Paris Hilton has done more acting than him.

Who cares about age, as long as he looks fine. Heck, good thats hes only 21, he can play Bats for about 5 movies!!!!

LOL, yeah right.

The Major
02-28-2008, 07:27 AM
A project like this, WB has no choice but to get as many script rewrites as possible. Im glad they decided to delay it after the strike. It showed they are being careful with it.

Me, too.


Any solo movies doesn't have to be the same character, any their probably won't be any until about 3 years when JL is done.

Of course they'll be the same character.

Keaton, Bale, Clooney, Kilmer and West all played the same character. Just different versions of it. Every version can impact the others negatively or positively if they fail or are successes to the public. It gives them more credibility at first. If one version doesn't hold up it will be compared to better versions and mocked.

The only franchise they can get new characters with is Green Lantern and Flash. Possibly WW but I don't we'll ever see Artemis taking over the title any time soon on the big screen.


So what if Biel turned it down, Gale could be a better choice. Heck I even read a report that Miller wanted Gale over Biel. Its all a he said, she said arguement.


I agree.

Biel is a much more qualified actress for WW then Gale.

FlawlessVictory
02-28-2008, 08:17 AM
Anyone else find it strange that Variety states the Mulroneys are "rewriting the script"? Not that they are polishing it up but rewriting it? And WB is hoping to get a draft in 6 weeks? That sounds like major changes will be in line.

dnno1
02-28-2008, 08:36 AM
They sure as heck might be pitching ideas, doesn't mean a movie is going to happen. I think JLA hurts the chances for MOS more than anything.

The Superman film franchise did that on its own merit. No help from JLA at all.

Well that just sucks. WB can't just give up on Superman when they haven't even tried. Man oh man, Justice League better be the best superhero movie so far! It better not be cheesy at all!

Actually they have tried... at least three times since "Superman 2".

I just don't understand how JL will destroy the chance for MOS. Why not make another Superman sequel. It means more money. I hope they don't do a restart of the Superman franchise with the crappy actor that is cast as Superman in JL. I really don't want to see Superman's origin a third time. We saw it once in Superman 1 and in Smallville.

See my previous reply. Why make a Superman sequel when the past four films were marginal at best profit wise? I don't think they need do do a restart either. I will explain that later.

yeah yeah, it was a joke... Maybe this was an issue, but had been solved, just Miller or anyone else didn't bother to tell anyone about it...

Maybe they still haven't resolved it yet...

It was more like a bluff to pressure the Australian government to give them the tax break even though they didn't qualify due to budgetary restrictions. I didn't think in the least that they were going to move to Canada after sinking money into set building and preproduction in Australia. I don't think many of you did either.

Oh, go **** yourself and die, Warner Bros. I'm so super pissed now.

I doubt that will happen to them, but it could happen to you unless you lower that temper of yours.

I have. Hasn't WB been planning a 2009 release date for months?

No you haven't. If you did you would have notice that a month ago the project was on indefinite hold, which means it was unknown when it would start back up again if ever. Even to this day IMDb still shows a 2010 release date at their website, so who really knows. Things could still change at a moments notice.

If Adam Brody is the biggest star of your film, its pretty much cemented that you have a crappy cast.

I don't think they revealed the rest of the cast yet. Now on the idea of restarting Superman, I don't think that would be a good idea. There is a lot of material in the WB vault on Superman that can be resold to the public that already contains information about his origin. It would make sense to try and leverage that by developing a continuity with it in future stories. By doing that you can possibly get viewers who didn't see the movies to go back and buy those videos and make more money. In my opinion the best thing to do with Superman is leverage his fame to help out other characters develop their franchises (just like both Superman and Batman are doing with their cartoons) as well as come up with a better storyline and direction for the next sequel. There are other legal issue to hurdle as well before we see any future films.

mclay18
02-28-2008, 08:38 AM
That could mean a variety of things:

- rewriting the dialogue scenes (which could be construed as "polishing")
- getting rid of the more expensive action sequences and trying to find a less expensive replacement
- getting rid of the Bats and Supes characters (which probably won't happen as Gale said the actors cast for JL are still in the movie)
- replacing the villains with someone that won't cause fanboys to go into hysterics (like Talia)
- etc.

It could be anything.

The Major
02-28-2008, 08:41 AM
dnno:

What legal hassles are there for us to get future films? Are you talking about Superman only or other solo franchises?

Showtime
02-28-2008, 08:42 AM
I am still suprised the draft will take 6 weeks to edit, considering the strike ended weeks ago.

dnno1
02-28-2008, 08:43 AM
Anyone else find it strange that Variety states the Mulroneys are "rewriting the script"? Not that they are polishing it up but rewriting it? And WB is hoping to get a draft in 6 weeks? That sounds like major changes will be in line.

The article says "polishing" the script. Go read it again.

That could mean a variety of things:

- rewriting the dialogue scenes (which could be construed as "polishing")
- getting rid of the more expensive action sequences and trying to find a less expensive replacement
- getting rid of the Bats and Supes characters (which probably won't happen as Gale said the actors cast for JL are still in the movie)
- replacing the villains with someone that won't cause fanboys to go into hysterics (like Talia)
- etc.

It could be anything.

This post is moot. Go read the OP. The article says "polishing" not re-write.

dnno1
02-28-2008, 08:47 AM
dnno:

What legal hassles are there for us to get future films? Are you talking about Superman only or other solo franchises?

There is an ongoing copyright battle between the Siegel family and Time Warner over the rights to Superman. The copyright to Superman will expire in 2013 and will go back to the Siegels that that time. Right now the Siegels are are trying to terminate the copyright in court. They have already killed Superboy for now.

FlawlessVictory
02-28-2008, 08:47 AM
The article says "polishing" the script. Go read it again.


This post is moot. Go read the OP. The article says "polishing" not re-write.

How about you go read it again?!

The minute the strike was over, scribes Kiernan and Michele Mulroney (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/751621/Michele%20Mulroney.html?dataSet=1) began rewriting the "Justice League" script. Studio is hoping to get a draft in the next six weeks.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981560.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

dnno1
02-28-2008, 08:50 AM
I am still suprised the draft will take 6 weeks to edit, considering the strike ended weeks ago.

I think they are just waiting for the outcome of the SAG contract negotiations. We still have to worry about the actors possibly striking after June 30.

Showtime
02-28-2008, 08:51 AM
It is obvious this script is getting a complete overhaul. It was already rewritten by Miller's weak pen and now is being rewritten again. It wouldn't take 6 weeks to do a rewrite between two professional screewriters unless there were some major changes.

Showtime
02-28-2008, 08:51 AM
I think they are just waiting for the outcome of the SAG contract negotiations. We still have to worry about the actors possibly striking after June 30.

If they were serious about this movie, they would get the draft done, it has nothing to do with the possibility of the upcoming SAG strike.

DaRkVeNgeanCe
02-28-2008, 08:52 AM
I really hope this thing crashes and burns to hell.

dnno1
02-28-2008, 08:53 AM
How about you go read it again?!

The minute the strike was over, scribes Kiernan and Michele Mulroney (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/751621/Michele%20Mulroney.html?dataSet=1) began rewriting the "Justice League" script. Studio is hoping to get a draft in the next six weeks.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981560.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

The original post says polishing. I don't think they are trashing the original script at all, which is what you are trying to imply. They might be rewriting parts of it to suit the cast or the directors needs as Mc Lay 18 was referring to, but they certainly aren't starting over from scratch.

dnno1
02-28-2008, 08:57 AM
If they were serious about this movie, they would get the draft done, it has nothing to do with the possibility of the upcoming SAG strike.

Six weeks is only a month and a half (from now until the middle of April). That doesn't seem like a long time to me.

Showtime
02-28-2008, 08:59 AM
For two screenwriters to rewrite a script...it's a long time.

dnno1
02-28-2008, 09:04 AM
For two screenwriters to rewrite a script...it's a long time.

Since they are talking about shooting in the fall, there is no need to rush at all. Also if you have other projects that you are working (note that the Mulroneys said they had two other projects) they might need that much time to do it in wile managing the other workloads. Anyway, I think this so called polish/re-write is mainly to include Martian Manhunter as well as to tailor the parts to each of the actors.

FlawlessVictory
02-28-2008, 09:07 AM
Since they are talking about shooting in the fall, there is no need to rush at all. Also if you have other projects that you are working (note that the Mulroneys said they had two other projects) they might need that much time to do it in wile managing the other workloads. Anyway, I think this so called polish/re-write is mainly to include Martian Manhunter as well as to tailor the parts to each of the actors.

I thought they were aiming for July?

Showtime
02-28-2008, 09:13 AM
Since they are talking about shooting in the fall, there is no need to rush at all. Also if you have other projects that you are working (note that the Mulroneys said they had two other projects) they might need that much time to do it in wile managing the other workloads. Anyway, I think this so called polish/re-write is mainly to include Martian Manhunter as well as to tailor the parts to each of the actors.

Where are you getting the fall, they want to start shooting in July? Their immediate project is JLM, they have nothing lined up until after that. No matter which way you slice it, 6 weeks is a long time for two writers who do nothing but write, to complete a draft.

FaT_tONle
02-28-2008, 09:22 AM
Even if its six weeks... it'll be done by April... that gives them May to prep... they'll shoot in the summer... no matter what the script is.

NIGHTSWING
02-28-2008, 09:23 AM
Here we go again now with an actors strike? This movie as bad as I want it seems to be doomed. I trying to stay away from the Dark Side like most every other poster here that dosen't want this thing to happen, but it's getting harder each day with news now of script touch ups and NOW a looming actor strike?

On a more postive note if the movie doesn't even start filming til Mid July? I hope that would give plenty of time to make the right call on casting strike or no strike. Plus, to give those actors extra time working out! 6 months should at least net us some insane "300" style heros!

Showtime
02-28-2008, 09:25 AM
Even if its six weeks... it'll be done by April... that gives them May to prep... they'll shoot in the summer... no matter what the script is.

My point isn't that the script isn't going to be done when I say it's taking long, my point is that it is obvious it is more than just a polishing. It's a complete rewrite.

dnno1
02-28-2008, 09:28 AM
Where are you getting the fall, they want to start shooting in July? Their immediate project is JLM, they have nothing lined up until after that. No matter which way you slice it, 6 weeks is a long time for two writers who do nothing but write, to complete a draft.

That would be optimistic considering the fact that there could be a SAG strike starting about that time (their contract with management ends June 30).

bunk
02-28-2008, 09:30 AM
I hope they're dropping Talia. NOT a fan of her being in the movie. Not using Bale or the Nolanverse should mean staying as far away from what Nolan's done so far as possible. Talia is too similar and the Justice League has plenty of villain potential elsewhere.

AragornKing1
02-28-2008, 09:36 AM
Well, the article says that WB is expecting a draft in 6 weeks. It doesn't mean that the writers will turn in one in exactly 6 weeks. Heck, who knows they may turn it in sometime next week, if not earlier.

Showtime
02-28-2008, 09:36 AM
That would be optimistic considering the fact that there could be a SAG strike starting about that time (their contract with management ends June 30).

Tell that to WB. That is what their aiming for, not me.

NIGHTSWING
02-28-2008, 09:36 AM
I hope they're dropping Talia. NOT a fan of her being in the movie. Not using Bale or the Nolanverse should mean staying as far away from what Nolan's done so far as possible. Talia is too similar and the Justice League has plenty of villain potential elsewhere.


I agree! To many great villians out their to be using Talia? I know it's hard to find one villian to go one on one with the league, but they are out there...and please no Lex or Joker.

Showtime
02-28-2008, 09:37 AM
Talia was the connection to Begins.

FlawlessVictory
02-28-2008, 09:38 AM
I hope they're dropping Talia. NOT a fan of her being in the movie. Not using Bale or the Nolanverse should mean staying as far away from what Nolan's done so far as possible. Talia is too similar and the Justice League has plenty of villain potential elsewhere.

I hope they drop her as well. But for me it's not even a matter of Bale or Nolanverse. It's a matter of, we have the greatest collection of superheroes ever assembled and one of their main threats is Talia?!?! So incredibly weak. So many different and better directions they could go in for threats to the Justice League.

Showtime
02-28-2008, 09:39 AM
Maxwell Lord, Talia, Omacs...

FlawlessVictory
02-28-2008, 09:39 AM
Talia was the connection to Begins.

It's obvious the Mulroneys were piggy backing off of BB, most likely thinking Bale would be in the movie, but some people here refuse to believe that.

Antonello Blueberry
02-28-2008, 09:44 AM
It is obvious this script is getting a complete overhaul. It was already rewritten by Miller's weak pen and now is being rewritten again. It wouldn't take 6 weeks to do a rewrite between two professional screewriters unless there were some major changes.
Not necessarily. But if they want a shooting script in 6 weeks, that means the delivery of a new draft, notes from all the parties involved (WB, Legendary, etc..) and then the final draft. It could take more than 6 weeks.

bunk
02-28-2008, 09:52 AM
Maxwell Lord, Talia, Omacs...


I think it would be a good idea for Max to be in the first movie, just not as the main villain. The story works so well in the comics because he's been set up one way, only to do a 180 and be a villain. They should set him up in the first movie the way he was in the comics. Then, in like the third film he could be the main villain and there would be some actual depth to it.

green
02-28-2008, 10:06 AM
Not necessarily. But if they want a shooting script in 6 weeks, that means the delivery of a new draft, notes from all the parties involved (WB, Legendary, etc..) and then the final draft. It could take more than 6 weeks.

Has it been mentioned that Legendary is involved?

FaT_tONle
02-28-2008, 10:12 AM
If they are recasting down the line then they should just use the white martians or Doomsday or Darkseid... no need to make it realistic at this point. But then again its probably the budget that's the problem... all I can say is that battles between Superman and Wonder Woman and Batman will be anything BUT iconic with Cotrona, Gale, and Hammer respectively... they should write out those scenes as well.

FlawlessVictory
02-28-2008, 10:16 AM
Has it been mentioned that Legendary is involved?

Legendary is not involved. I just checked the website http://www.legendarypictures.com/ and JL is not listed under their "in development" section. Superman 2 is though. I believe it's Village Roadshow who is handling JL.