Man of Steel: The Official Brandon Routh Thread

[C. Lee]

Not that I mind crude humor (far from it!), but this has what to do with Routh exactly? :huh:

Absolutely nothing...that's why he just got an infraction.

[Brian Braddock]

Who did?

EDIT: Ah, the penny's dropped - just noticed the posts have been deleted.

[Superman Prime]

I get to stay after school for detention. Ma and Pa Kent are very disappointed in me.

[Brian Braddock]

It's the Phantom Zone for you then, eh?

Anyways, back to topic.

That Dead of Night poster looks cool.

[Superman Prime]

It's the Phantom Zone for you then, eh?

If it is, I call dibs on Ursa.

[C. Lee]

I get to stay after school for detention. Ma and Pa Kent are very disappointed in me.

To say the least.

[RachelDawes]

Funny how that apparently doesn't apply to Cavill & Welling though. When thier names are brought up it's like a linch mob in here with thier pitch forks. Ppl do see what they want to see, you want to see brandon as a good actor so you do, others see him as a bafoon so they do, it's called differs of taste. If ppl can't handle that then why are you here?.




Steve

Welling I'll grant you, but I don't think lynch mobs come after Cavill. He's got a lot of fans here, and his detractors have only recently come forward to point out that the guy has yet to land any of the roles he's been rumored for. That's true and should be completely fair game.

Ah, but threads of this kind, ones devoted specifically to a particular actor invariably become, on the whole, places frequented by fans of that actor. It then follows, that if you are not a fan, why would you continually go onto a thread just to consistantly post negative views on the subject at hand - I mean, once you have stated your views and they have been acknowledged, at what point does repeating those viewpoints over and over again ad nausiem become trollism?

Do you really see many of the people who post postive things about Routh on here go onto a Pro-Welling site in the Smallville forum just to bash him? To me personally, it just seems like a pointless action not worth the effort but if there are such people, surely that's just the same as what people are doing on here?

Tit for tat, I guess you could say.

Or to put it another way in the form of both an analogy and a question for more descriptive purposes - What type of person deliberately goes into somebody's own backyard just to pick a fight over and over again?

I don't see this thread that way. To me, this is just a thread to discuss everything Routh related, positive and negative. If only positive reactions are allowed here, someone should create a Routh hate thread so people who don't like him can complain about him there.

[Double Down]

From Comic-Con:

IGNcom: Brandon Routh says there is some new momentum on the superman sequel and he and Sam Huntington are up for it returning!

http://twitter.com/SupermanSequel/status/2803810129

and

http://www.**************.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=8715

[RachelDawes]

From Comic-Con:



http://twitter.com/SupermanSequel/status/2803810129

and

http://www.**************.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=8715

:wow:

What could this "momentum" mean? Is it a reference to the lawsuit or is something actually being done by WB?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

From Comic-Con:



http://twitter.com/SupermanSequel/status/2803810129

and

http://www.**************.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=8715

Brandon Routh=Parousia?

hmmm...

[FlawlessVictory]

From Comic-Con:

http://twitter.com/SupermanSequel/status/2803810129

and

http://www.**************.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=8715

Momentum on a sequel to SR?

:down x infinity. I couldn't bare to suffer through anything connected to SR.

[FaT_tONle]

Guess they are stringing the fanboys to the pony ride again...

[Man of Tomorrow]

Relax, FV.

There's no plans to do a film connected with Superman Returns story-wise.


But despite what this new Superman film will be, the press and those involved are still calling it a 'Superman sequel' for now.


It's just a vague title.

[Superark]

From Comic-Con:



http://twitter.com/SupermanSequel/status/2803810129

and

http://www.**************.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=8715


maybe i am overreacting and counting my chickens before they hatch, but hell freakin yeah!

i'm very excited about this!

[sdc10]

My fav Superman Routh moment?......When it was announced his contract was up:hehe:

[Vgerland]

I just got this google alert on the same subject. It is the first part of the MTV interview to be posted.

Comic-Con: 'Dead Of Night' Star Brandon Routh Ponders A 'Superman ...

[\S/JcDc\S/]

My fav Superman Routh moment?......When it was announced his contract was up:hehe:


Dude you might want to edit that out. They are cracking down on troll comments.

[Showtime]

Weird, because what he said to MTV seems to jive in a more vague direction.

With a role as the Man of Steel behind him and DC/Warner Bros. compelled to make another Superman movie by 2011, Routh would certainly seem an apt choice to reprise his performance -- but what if the studio decides to look elsewhere? I asked Routh how he'd feel about seeing another actor don the ol' red-and-blue tights.

"That's a tough question to ask, but I trust that everything goes as planned and I'd love to return to the character," said Routh. "I love the character and loved working with Warner Bros. and Legendary Pictures and I'd be happy to come back."

[Angeloz]

So I missed pistols at dawn? Oh well (by the way it's just past dawn here so not so strange comment).

What is the new film about?

Angeloz

[Superman Prime]

Dude you might want to edit that out. They are cracking down on troll comments.

It has to do with Brandon Routh. He's stating his opinion. It's stated bluntly, but he's hardly being a troll.

[Superark]

Weird, because what he said to MTV seems to jive in a more vague direction.


still sounds good though

[Man of Tomorrow]

Any type of press about a Superman movie in development by 2011 is good IMO.

I hope the Warners see there's a demand for another Superman film.

[Superark]

Any type of press about a Superman movie in development by 2011 is good IMO.

I hope the Warners see there's a demand for another Superman film.


its just sad that its come to that.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Relax, FV.

There's no plans to do a film connected with Superman Returns story-wise.


But despite what this new Superman film will be, the press and those involved are still calling it a 'Superman sequel' for now.


It's just a vague title.

It'll be called a sequel no matter what they do.

[Mostpowerful]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/deadofnight.jpg

:wow::up::up::up:

Now, That's Dylan Dog.



And this is Superman,

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/brdwaybebe/BrandonSoccer01.png




.

[sdc10]

Weird, because what he said to MTV seems to jive in a more vague direction.

A lot of people are looking at this and thinking "wow i guess a SR sequel is really gonna happen". Imo that is still a huge leap. All this says to me is that WB is working on a Superman film and that Routh would like to be in it. Thats it, nothing more than an actor expressing interest in a role. This isnt some tongue in cheek announcement of Superman Returns Again. I still think WB is still a ways away from deciding what direction to take the franchise.

[Cool Monty]

A lot of people are looking at this and thinking "wow i guess a SR sequel is really gonna happen". Imo that is still a huge leap. All this says to me is that WB is working on a Superman film and that Routh would like to be in it. Thats it, nothing more than an actor expressing interest in a role. This isnt some tongue in cheek announcement of Superman Returns Again. I still think WB is still a ways away from deciding what direction to take the franchise.

Okay, but I think its more than just Routh expressing interest, though. I think he is at least in the fold. Because how did he know about said 'momentum'? Just a couple weeks ago, Routh said he had no idea what was going on at WB in terms of Superman, now all of a sudden, he says there is something picking up over there. Granted, we don't actually know any if the next movie is gearing up, but then again, Routh doesn't strike me as someone who just makes up a lie from out of nowhere.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Okay, so how did he know about said 'momentum'? Just a couple weeks ago, Routh said he had no idea what was going on at WB in terms of Superman, now all of a sudden, he says there is something picking up over there. Granted, we don't actually know any if the next movie is gearing up, but then again, Routh doesn't strike me as someone who just makes a lie from out of nowhere.


I just hope he didn't say that based off of the court ruling news only.

[byte19]

i think brandon will be fine, and the studio hasn't completely dropped him so he still can come back as supes. 300K was a bit low for a major role like SR.

terra1319

[sdc10]

Okay, but I think its more than just Routh expressing interest, though. I think he is at least in the fold. Because how did he know about said 'momentum'? Just a couple weeks ago, Routh said he had no idea what was going on at WB in terms of Superman, now all of a sudden, he says there is something picking up over there. Granted, we don't actually know any if the next movie is gearing up, but then again, Routh doesn't strike me as someone who just makes up a lie from out of nowhere.

Well whos to say that the film is actually a SR sequel to begin with? I would be surprised if WB kept calling up Routh informing him of the status of the movie, especially if they let his contract go up not so long ago. So again I just think Routh heard some "news" on a Superman film and is once again just expressing his interest in returning.

[FaT_tONle]

Routh will be lucky to get a call from WB thanking him for his previous work and efforts before telling him that he has been unanimously replaced by another actor.

[Double Down]

Well whos to say that the film is actually a SR sequel to begin with? I would be surprised if WB kept calling up Routh informing him of the status of the movie, especially if they let his contract go up not so long ago. So again I just think Routh heard some "news" on a Superman film and is once again just expressing his interest in returning.

And who is to say Routh didn't talk to them?
How do you know he didn't call to find out what was happening after the court hearing? After the hearing, we all wanted more answers on what it means for the franchise. Routh is in a position where he can actually call and get some answers.

[Antonello Blueberry]

And who is to say Routh didn't talk to them?
How do you know he didn't call to find out what was happening after the court hearing? After the hearing, we all wanted more answers on what it means for the franchise. Routh is in a position where he can actually call and get some answers.
Strange that nobody asked Gil Adler if he knew anything about another Superman movie.

[Double Down]

Strange that nobody asked Gil Adler if he knew anything about another Superman movie.

That would have made sense.

[TheComicbookKid]

That would have made sense, which is why no one did it. They'd rather ask Routh. Who we all know hasn't been in the loop for a while the same old questions.

[Superman-Prime]

From Comic-Con:



http://twitter.com/SupermanSequel/status/2803810129

and

http://www.**************.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=8715

Now, that is good. I rather to have a reboot with Routh instead of the sequel.

Yeah! IN YOUR FACE, SAVESUPERMAN.COM!

[sdc10]

And who is to say Routh didn't talk to them?
How do you know he didn't call to find out what was happening after the court hearing? After the hearing, we all wanted more answers on what it means for the franchise. Routh is in a position where he can actually call and get some answers.

Well id like to think that the guy is not desperate enough for work that he is sitting next to his phone just waiting on getting a call:hehe:

[Mindreaper21]

I don't care how beefed up Routh gets, he still can't act.

[Superman-Prime]

I disagree. He acted as Clark Kent and Superman very well. I'm very impressed by his acting.

I don't care about SR haters/SaveSuperman.com/Brandon Routh haters' opinion. They are stupid.

[Superman Prime]

^ See, and that's what really detracts from your side. You can't defend Routh without bashing those who didn't enjoy his performance. Grow up.

[Cool Monty]

Can the Routh-Haters at least agree to wait until after seeing Dead of Night to decide if Brandon is a good actor or not? I mean really, isn't it common knowledge by now that the script for SR maybe wasn't the best thing to allow him to show what he can do, and even then, he managed to win a lot of people over.

Is that not a fair compromise?

[Timstuff]

The thing is, it can't be a true reboot without a new actor. Even if they try their darndest to separate it from SR's continuity, the layman is going to assume that it's a prequel leading up to SR or something like that. By casting a new actor, they can firmly establish that this has no connection to SR and that it is not a prequel. I don't think it's worth confusing the audience and jeopardizing the franchise's future just to hold onto an actor who delivered a passable performance as Superman. And who's to say that the actor replacing him won't be even better in the role? Just because you've already seen Routh in the costume doesn't mean he's necessarily the absolute best actor who could possibly play Superman.

[Superman Prime]

Timstuff should win a prize for that post.

[Superman-Prime]

^ See, and that's what really detracts from your side. You can't defend Routh without bashing those who didn't enjoy his performance. Grow up.
I've already grown up.

People of Brandon Routh haters/SR haters and SaveSuperman.com, they need to grow up and suck Steve, the owner of SaveSuperman.com, up.

Seriously, this is 2009, not still 2006. All over and again. Shut up. We all get what the hates said about SR and Brandon Routh. I don't give a damn what they think about them. Once again, this is not 2006 anymore. It's over. It's in the past. THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO.

For me, I would like to have a reboot with Brandon Routh and ignore SR. Forget Bryan Singer and find another director. They can be improve and a lot better, perhaps?

EDIT: If Bryan Singer won't come back, will the haters be able to shut up? We'll see how it goes.

[Superman Prime]

Seriously, this is 2009, not still 2006. All over and again. Shut up. We all get what the hates said about SR and Brandon Routh. I don't give a damn what they think about them. Once again, this is not 2006 anymore. It's over. It's in the past. THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO.

You sure make a big deal about it for not caring.

And yes, it's been three years. How is that meant to be any reason to stop criticizing the film, especially when it's the latest Superman film period? If haters are supposed to shut up, I can very well say the same thing about the supporters of SR. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

[Mostpowerful]

I disagree. He acted as Clark Kent and Superman very well. I'm very impressed by his acting.

.

He was great. Inspired casting I should say.

Casting Superman is VERY tough because this person needs to have the acting talent, the right look, the voice, the presence, and the right personality to carry the torch. This person also needs to inhabit the part, and very few people on this planet can do that. Brandon did it, IMO, and a lot of people agreed on that. Fact. The man IS Superman. He carried a $400 mill franchise that got mostly good/great reviews (yes, WB)

http://www.superiorpics.com/brandon_routh/pictures/6480_routh_09129_picture.html

http://www.empireonline.com/awards/malenewcomer.asp

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=239376

.

[SuperAl]

300k is a hell of a lot of money for someone who was bartending. 300k is prolly the equivalent of working for 5 years so I would be happy with that and im sure he was happy with that as well. Besides 300k is prolly a standard pay for someone being in their first movie. Not to mention he prolly got paid for toys as well as all the model shoots he did for several magazines.

And to the dude who said Tom Welling will never wear a superman suit, WRONG! hes wearing it on smallville yayayayayaya

[SuperAl]

double post :(

[redtail]

Both the film and Routh were failures, if not, there would have been a second film by now.

As for Routh, he can always play someone's dad on a bad abcfamily sitcom. Shouldn't strain him too much.

Routh seems like a nice guy, probably would be a good neighbor, co-worker or so, but a good actor, not much, at least to me

[Webhead2006]

Yea if a full reboot is what happens i would hope to heck wb/dc comics would promote it as such so by the time film comes out even joe public will know this is not assoicated with Reeve's films/SR and its a new take and new direction like batman begins did for batman over the the burton/joel S batman series.

[Showtime]

I've already grown up.

People of Brandon Routh haters/SR haters and SaveSuperman.com, they need to grow up and suck Steve, the owner of SaveSuperman.com, up.

Seriously, this is 2009, not still 2006. All over and again. Shut up. We all get what the hates said about SR and Brandon Routh. I don't give a damn what they think about them. Once again, this is not 2006 anymore. It's over. It's in the past. THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO.

For me, I would like to have a reboot with Brandon Routh and ignore SR. Forget Bryan Singer and find another director. They can be improve and a lot better, perhaps?

EDIT: If Bryan Singer won't come back, will the haters be able to shut up? We'll see how it goes.

You sure make a big deal about it for not caring.

And yes, it's been three years. How is that meant to be any reason to stop criticizing the film, especially when it's the latest Superman film period? If haters are supposed to shut up, I can very well say the same thing about the supporters of SR. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

Hey twins. You're bizzaros of each other. How about you both take it down a notch.

[sf2]

The thing is, it can't be a true reboot without a new actor. Even if they try their darndest to separate it from SR's continuity, the layman is going to assume that it's a prequel leading up to SR or something like that. By casting a new actor, they can firmly establish that this has no connection to SR and that it is not a prequel. I don't think it's worth confusing the audience and jeopardizing the franchise's future just to hold onto an actor who delivered a passable performance as Superman. And who's to say that the actor replacing him won't be even better in the role? Just because you've already seen Routh in the costume doesn't mean he's necessarily the absolute best actor who could possibly play Superman.

casting a new actor, the public will firmly know that it has no connection to SR? you sure???
hmmm, batman begins ring a bell? everything is new, but the public still think it's batman 5.

hmmm... so far, routh is still the best candidate to me.

[Brian Braddock]

The thing is, it can't be a true reboot without a new actor. Even if they try their darndest to separate it from SR's continuity, the layman is going to assume that it's a prequel leading up to SR or something like that. By casting a new actor, they can firmly establish that this has no connection to SR and that it is not a prequel. I don't think it's worth confusing the audience and jeopardizing the franchise's future just to hold onto an actor who delivered a passable performance as Superman. And who's to say that the actor replacing him won't be even better in the role? Just because you've already seen Routh in the costume doesn't mean he's necessarily the absolute best actor who could possibly play Superman.

I dont think 'the layman' would even be concerned by Routh still being in the role. Once it becomes clear from the footage, trailers and interviews etc that the movie is a complete reboot - the general public will still go and see the movie regardless of any supposed 'confusion'. It's all about how the promotion is handled and the GA is made aware that this si a reboot.

Here's a question - Costume changes and hairstyle aside, does an artist change how he draws Superman (both in build and, more crucially, facially), when his writer and editor decide to go in another direction, because he worries that readers may still think that Superman may be the same one from previous adventures?

The answer would be no; and the same applies here.

I'm 100% convinced you can have an effective reboot and still keep Routh.

[Retroman]

Strange that nobody asked Gil Adler if he knew anything about another Superman movie.

That's...disappointing. Maybe that says something.:o

[ChickenScratch]

I don't think a new story staring Routh would be confusing. It's not like the general populous are gonna go back and rewatch SR or even care what happened previously. Heck, most people could not even tell you what or who (except for Reeves) was was in the previous movies and TV series. People generally love the image of Superman and what he represents, I've seen many people wearing his logo around who clearly when asked have never read an issue of the comics.

[El Payaso]

I don't think a new story staring Routh would be confusing. It's not like the general populous are gonna go back and rewatch SR or even care what happened previously. Heck, most people could not even tell you what or who (except for Reeves) was was in the previous movies and TV series. People generally love the image of Superman and what he represents, I've seen many people wearing his logo around who clearly when asked have never read an issue of the comics.

People kept thinking Batman Begins was a prequel and TIH was a sequel. The only way people get this is a reboot is if they use completely different actors AND they make it an origin movie.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

The only way people get this is a reboot is if they use completely different actors AND they make it an origin movie.

Not the only way, but likely the most effective way to cover basis.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

WE NEED SUPERMAN MOVIE NEWS DAMN IT!























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[Superman Prime]

Get a grip, JcDc! You're losing it!

[\S/JcDc\S/]

get a grip, jcdc! You're losing it!


:d .

[Angeloz]

I'm wondering do people that don't like Tom Welling (I'm not one of them as I find Smallville to be OK and Tom easy on the eyes) go to his threads in the the Smallville section?

Also why can't we just ask for a decent Superman film preferably with Brandon in it? I'm pretty sure the public would see it (barring any unforseen emergencies like a contagious disease).

Angeloz

[sdc10]

I'm wondering do people that don't like Tom Welling (I'm not one of them as I find Smallville to be OK and Tom easy on the eyes) go to his threads in the the Smallville section?

Also why can't we just ask for a decent Superman film preferably with Brandon in it? I'm pretty sure the public would see it (barring any unforseen emergencies like a contagious disease).

Angeloz

Probably because as a result of Routh's contract ending, the only satisfaction they can find is by bashing other people's choices for Superman.

[AgentPat]

I'm wondering do people that don't like Tom Welling (I'm not one of them as I find Smallville to be OK and Tom easy on the eyes) go to his threads in the the Smallville section?All the time. The reverse is also true. :)

Also why can't we just ask for a decent Superman film preferably with Brandon in it?Whatever gave you the idea that you couldn't? Unless you were asking for that specifically in the TW threads in the SV forum, which would seem odd at the least and trollish at best. ;)

I'm pretty sure the public would see it (barring any unforseen emergencies like a contagious disease).Sure they would. I don't think the general public cares one way or another, hence why they're considered the "general" public. The GP just wants to be entertained.

[Angeloz]

All the time. The reverse is also true. :)

Silly people. Are there threads with nice pictures of him (Tom)? I'm thinking yes. By the way I tend to avoid the area except for the DVD thread unless I want to be spoiled (occasionally I'm naughty but not recently). As they tend to release DVDs March the next year (it's when I expect to see season 8 i.e. 2010). I know about other ways but I prefer not to use them. Also I get to watch it in a week or less.

Whatever gave you the idea that you couldn't? Unless you were asking for that specifically in the TW threads in the SV forum, which would seem odd at the least and trollish at best. ;)

Nope. As I explained above (they don't air the show on free-to-air TV; Pay TV is over $100 a month minimun the last I checked). By the way it's what I want (with Routh) you might have guessed. ;)

Sure they would. I don't think the general public cares one way or another, hence why they're considered the "general" public. The GP just wants to be entertained.

I agree.

Angeloz

[XxDelta09xX]

WE NEED SUPERMAN MOVIE NEWS DAMN IT!























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Agreed.:woot:

[Ita-KalEl]

WE NEED SUPERMAN MOVIE NEWS DAMN IT!























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Welcome to development hell.
I don't think that we'll read anything concrete about a new Superman movie before the end of the legal battle.
Reguarding Welling, 8 years ago I wanted him in the role of Superman, but today I don't see how it can happen. If it happens I will support him. On the other side I'm still convinced that not all the Smallville fans are Superman fans.

[Ita-KalEl]

Double post

[MAN O STEEL]

I'm still convinced that not all the Smallville fans are Superman fans.


I'm also convinced that not all SR fans are Superman fans *COUGHMostPowerfullCOUGH*. :whatever::oldrazz:. pretty sure she's just got the jones for Routh as is evident by her lack of openess to other suggestions. So it works both ways.




Steve

[\S/JcDc\S/]

if I'm not mistaken, Routh got $300,000 for Superman.
I read $700,000 before I'm pretty sure, but I think for an unknown $300,000 would be adequate.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Routh was paid about $1 million - used the money to buy his house.

[Mostpowerful]

I'm also convinced that not all SR fans are Superman fans *COUGHMostPowerfullCOUGH*. :whatever::oldrazz:. pretty sure she's just got the jones for Routh as is evident by her lack of openess to other suggestions. So it works both ways.




Steve

Yup, "so mature as usual" there, MOS? :oldrazz: Typical stuff.



" as is evident by her lack of openess to other suggestions."

That's because Brandon Routh is STILL the best choice, by far, IMO.

And I just want what's best for Superman, a character I've loved and admired since before I learned to write. :cwink:


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[Prison Mike]

I do feel bad for Routh. I thought he made a mediocre Superman and could have done much better if given something to do in the movie. He had hardly any lines or action scenes. It was mostly Bosworth and Spacey in the movie. I think his time has passed as Superman, which is a shame because he would have made a pretty good Superman IMO.

[Sam]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=video&show_id=130861

[GoblinWhirlwind]

The way I think of it, the select few that spew hatred all over Brandon are the ones that aren't true Superman fans. If you really love the character and not a certain actor, you'll want what's best for him... an actor that knows the character and wants to stay true to him. Brandon's said several times that's what he wants, and a certain someone that doesn't need to be named, seems to want Brandon out more than he wants a great Superman.

I've got several candidates I'd be completely happy with if they were picked, with Brandon at the front.

[sdc10]

The way I think of it, the select few that spew hatred all over Brandon are the ones that aren't true Superman fans. If you really love the character and not a certain actor, you'll want what's best for him... an actor that knows the character and wants to stay true to him. Brandon's said several times that's what he wants, and a certain someone that doesn't need to be named, seems to want Brandon out more than he wants a great Superman.

I've got several candidates I'd be completely happy with if they were picked, with Brandon at the front.

Yes, cause lord knows the fans who read Superman comics during the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80, etc where never "real" Superman fans because they never got to experience the awesomeness that is Routh.:whatever:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^word.

I really hate what your post is saying GoblinWhirlwind.

Just thought I'd let you know.

[Man of Tomorrow]

. If you really love the character and not a certain actor, you'll want what's best for him...


I don't agree with that.


Dean Cain sucked ass. We can be fans of Superman without feeling an obligation to support someone who sucks in the role.

[Angeloz]

I don't agree with that.


Dean Cain sucked ass. We can be fans of Superman without feeling an obligation to support someone who sucks in the role.

I liked his Clark (I recently watched in the past three years the first two seasons plus select episodes in the other two - not many). I'm currently rewatching the first season. I'll admit he isn't the worlds greatest actor but he's likeable as Clark.

By the way must the thread devolve into a hating [X actor] thread? Maybe someone should post a picture of Brandon. As Superman and a recent one. I'll appreciate it. :)

Angeloz

[RachelDawes]

The way I think of it, the select few that spew hatred all over Brandon are the ones that aren't true Superman fans. If you really love the character and not a certain actor, you'll want what's best for him... an actor that knows the character and wants to stay true to him. Brandon's said several times that's what he wants, and a certain someone that doesn't need to be named, seems to want Brandon out more than he wants a great Superman.

I've got several candidates I'd be completely happy with if they were picked, with Brandon at the front.

The only people who come dangerously close to being "not real fans" (though I hate this phrase 'cause it sounds so condescending) are not Routh detractors but those who insist that some actor must/must not play Superman or they won't watch the movie. Such statements reek of sour grapes IMO.

[XxDelta09xX]

The way I think of it, the select few that spew hatred all over Brandon are the ones that aren't true Superman fans. If you really love the character and not a certain actor, you'll want what's best for him... an actor that knows the character and wants to stay true to him. Brandon's said several times that's what he wants, and a certain someone that doesn't need to be named, seems to want Brandon out more than he wants a great Superman.

I've got several candidates I'd be completely happy with if they were picked, with Brandon at the front.

Agreed.:woot:

[Angeloz]

The only people who come dangerously close to being "not real fans" (though I hate this phrase 'cause it sounds so condescending) are not Routh detractors but those who insist that some actor must/must not play Superman or they won't watch the movie. Such statements reek of sour grapes IMO.

Would that count if they've seen said actor and know he's as wooden as a cricket bat? 'Cos unless you like watching complete disasters then it can be torture. Not that I claim such a thing at the moment.

Angeloz

[GreenKToo]

IMVHO, IF your a true fan, you would want what is best for the success of the next Superman film, whether it be routh or someone else in the role.

It doesnt matter to me either way. I'm good regardless of who plays him, but some of you seem to be Routh or TW fans only. I've even saw some (very few) people here say that would not see it if so and so is not Superman in the next one. THAT is NOT a true Superman fan to me. Sure, you can want your favorite actor/pick in the role, its fun to do that, but would you really not see it if he were not the pick? really? c'mon now.

For me, Routh was decent, but I think he could be better, much better. Same for TW, he is decent for what he is in. Still, if we get a new director, and he decides to recast, and its someone that looks awesome AND can act, then so be it. But to say you wouldnt see it because your fav actor for the role didnt get picked is just.....well.....childish?

Besides, the way its looking now they'll both be to old to play him in the next one anyway, unless its kingdom come.:D

[Puckenstein]

The way I think of it, the select few that spew hatred all over Brandon are the ones that aren't true Superman fans. If you really love the character and not a certain actor, you'll want what's best for him.

This could very well be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read.

So, because some people don't like Routh, that means they don't want what's best for Superman? I'm sorry, I must have missed some high council meeting where it was deemed that "Brandon Routh shall now and henceforth forever be 'what is best for Superman." Give me a break, man.

Disliking Routh DOES NOT equal disliking Superman.

[Superman-Prime]

WE NEED SUPERMAN MOVIE NEWS DAMN IT!

:o

I know how you feel about that. *sigh*

[Vgerland]

Yeah me too. I was really hoping we would hear something concrete from ComicCon. Guess WB still can't get their act together.

[FilmNerdJamie]

You really thought we were going to get rock-solid info outta the Con? :huh:

[El Payaso]

Am I late for the "defining what a true Superman is" session?

[RachelDawes]

Would that count if they've seen said actor and know he's as wooden as a cricket bat? 'Cos unless you like watching complete disasters then it can be torture. Not that I claim such a thing at the moment.

Angeloz

It's perfectly okay to dislike the actor selected for Superman, but we won't know what his performance is like until we see trailers and hear reviews of his performance. It's possible that a weak actor can turn in a good performance while working with a great director or material. It's even possible that an actor who's subpar in other roles could still be a natural for Superman. Everyone ought to keep an open mind until we see footage.

Am I late for the "defining what a true Superman is" session?

Nope. :yay:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You really thought we were going to get rock-solid info outta the Con? :huh:I am also confused.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

This could very well be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read.

So, because some people don't like Routh, that means they don't want what's best for Superman? I'm sorry, I must have missed some high council meeting where it was deemed that "Brandon Routh shall now and henceforth forever be 'what is best for Superman." Give me a break, man.

Disliking Routh DOES NOT equal disliking Superman.

Agreed, and from someone who thinks Routh was good as Supes :up:

[sf2]

This could very well be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read.

So, because some people don't like Routh, that means they don't want what's best for Superman? I'm sorry, I must have missed some high council meeting where it was deemed that "Brandon Routh shall now and henceforth forever be 'what is best for Superman." Give me a break, man.

Disliking Routh DOES NOT equal disliking Superman.

i agree completely. we want the the best for superman and i think brandon is lacking the 'commanding presence' in his superman.

having said that, i still think he is the best among all the candidates proposed here. :woot:

seriously.

[Superman Prime]

He certainly had no commanding presence in SR. He sort of did in interviews. That's where I get my hunce that if given a better script and director, he could give us a worthy Superman. He hardly resembles Reeve, but looks the part anyway to back it up.

[Angeloz]

IMVHO, IF your a true fan, you would want what is best for the success of the next Superman film, whether it be routh or someone else in the role.

It doesnt matter to me either way. I'm good regardless of who plays him, but some of you seem to be Routh or TW fans only. I've even saw some (very few) people here say that would not see it if so and so is not Superman in the next one. THAT is NOT a true Superman fan to me. Sure, you can want your favorite actor/pick in the role, its fun to do that, but would you really not see it if he were not the pick? really? c'mon now.

For me, Routh was decent, but I think he could be better, much better. Same for TW, he is decent for what he is in. Still, if we get a new director, and he decides to recast, and its someone that looks awesome AND can act, then so be it. But to say you wouldnt see it because your fav actor for the role didnt get picked is just.....well.....childish?

Besides, the way its looking now they'll both be to old to play him in the next one anyway, unless its kingdom come.:D

I'm a wait and see person. If they do have someone other than Brandon I'll look at the footage and if it looks like complete crap then I'll wait to see it on DVD. Actually that's true for most films. If I'm slightly interested in it.

It's perfectly okay to dislike the actor selected for Superman, but we won't know what his performance is like until we see trailers and hear reviews of his performance. It's possible that a weak actor can turn in a good performance while working with a great director or material. It's even possible that an actor who's subpar in other roles could still be a natural for Superman. Everyone ought to keep an open mind until we see footage.

I'm thinking a completely wooden actor that has no, to little, hope of improving. As I said above when the next film happens I'll decide how I see it based on the clips. I've liked many actors in the role. I just hope they don't replace someone decent that still is available (Brandon) with someone crap. If they do there's nothing I can do about it. I guess I'll just borrow the DVD from the library. But that's pessimistic thinking and need not happen.

Angeloz

[Man of Tomorrow]

Some brief words with Brandon Routh at the SDCC Wrap Party:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opk8hR_dO34

opk8hR_dO34

[Ita-KalEl]

Some brief words with Brandon Routh at the SDCC Wrap Party:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opk8hR_dO34

opk8hR_dO34

What does he say?

[GreenKToo]

Nothing much at all. They chatted about him seeing a storm trooper and boba fett dancing outside on the sidewalk. Not one question about superman that I heard. lots of background noise tho, so I could have missed it.

[Mostpowerful]

What does he say?

Basically that Dead of Night is a great film, and that it will be everywhere in theaters next year.

[Vgerland]

Article called Superman:The Fan Cast from Comic Book Movie site


http://www.**************.com/news/?a=8896

[XxDelta09xX]

Article called Superman:The Fan Cast from Comic Book Movie site


http://www.**************.com/news/?a=8896

That's a pretty good cast,but one thing I would change is Lois.:woot:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

They could have thrown in one new suggestion at least :down

[GreenKToo]

I like that cast but i'd rather have Ed Harris as Perry.

[TruerToTheCore]

I'm still amazed that there are still people that believe a skinny guy with a small jaw and no chin and girlie eyes should be SuperMAN.

[GreenKToo]

Who are you talking about? welling?

[TruerToTheCore]

No, Routh. And you know it.

I could say almost the same things about Welling, too (except for skinny, Welling is quite robust, but his face doesn't fit at all)

[GreenKToo]

No I didnt know it. thats why I asked.
I dont agree, but each to their own.

[GreenKToo]

I agree that he was to small for sR, but he is much bigger now.
I'm not even a supporter of his, but to be fair, he is not skinny.

He should have been this size in SR.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9121/20090721was2471564afp.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/i/20090721was2471564afp.jpg/)

[Angeloz]

You did see that they wanted him the size he was and the costume department didn't want him to be bigger? By the way he was fine by my standards but I'm not obssessed with male muscles. :p

Angeloz

[Ultimate_Superman]

I agree that he was to small for sR, but he is much bigger now.
I'm not even a supporter of his, but to be fair, he is not skinny.

He should have been this size in SR.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9121/20090721was2471564afp.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/i/20090721was2471564afp.jpg/)This picture reminds me of of the pictures Mike Turner did with Superman and Supergirl.

[Angeloz]

Show us?

Angeloz

[TruerToTheCore]

it doesn't matter how much muscles he puts on, his general frame is just too gracile. Superman needs an athletic built with big bones and a square face.

Too bad we won't find such a guy under Hollywood's current "girlie" main actors :csad:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Show us?

Angeloz
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1070/supermansupergirlleetur.jpg

[Angeloz]

it doesn't matter how much muscles he puts on, his general frame is just too gracile. Superman needs an athletic built with big bones and a square face.

Too bad we won't find such a guy under Hollywood's current "girlie" main actors :csad:

Well that'd be a joke like the one on "Saturday Night Live" with the Rock. He was dressed as Clark Kent at a dinner table and the rest of the people were prentending not to know who he was. It was obvious they knew.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1070/supermansupergirlleetur.jpg

Thank you. :)

Looks good though I'm not a fan of making Supergirl dress tastelessly.

Angeloz

[Man of Tomorrow]

I am.

[Brian Braddock]

I'm still amazed that there are still people that believe a skinny guy with a small jaw and no chin and girlie eyes should be SuperMAN.

Small jaw with no chin? Girlie eyes?

I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder but opinion definately differs a great deal from yours by and large. Routh seems pretty manly to me at least - and it's not like you can counter by saying his voice is too high or something as his voice is pretty deep.

Out of interest, how does a person have 'girlie eyes'? I dont see Routh wearing any mascara............... :hehe:

Anyways, about the skinny thing, Angeloz has already made the point already in the post below. Routh couldve got a lot bigger but was under studio mandate not go gain any more muscle or weight than when the digital measurements of his body were taken in order to make the suit.

I guess I could post the workout pics [yet again] to show how Routh actually was buff without the constriction of the suit but they've been posted way to many times already and I'll spare people from having to see them again.


You did see that they wanted him the size he was and the costume department didn't want him to be bigger? By the way he was fine by my standards but I'm not obssessed with male muscles. :p

Angeloz

Anyways, the guy sure isnt skinny now; It seems that TruerToTheCore already knows this and so.....................

it doesn't matter how much muscles he puts on, his general frame is just too gracile. Superman needs an athletic built with big bones and a square face.

Too bad we won't find such a guy under Hollywood's current "girlie" main actors :csad:

Ah, so now we go from 'he was too skinny' to 'it doesnt matter how much muscle he puts on he'll never be good enough?

Please.

Talk about changing the goalposts.

Gracile?

Let's see, check list of Brandon's attributes at the moment-

Thick neck? Check.
Big chest? Check.
Good arms? Check.
Big traps? Check.
Thick Back? Check.
Thick legs? Check.

Seems good enough to me; besides, as Angeloz has also mentioned - you get a guy too big and its looks ridiculous. I know you obviously want someone that looks like Mr Olympia in the role so I'm assuming that you havent seen Mike O'Hearn as Superman in Worlds Finest? The guy looks laughable in Clark Kents suit.

He would fool no-one.

And Routh's jaw is fine. Any squarer a jaw and we'd have to get Robert D'Zar to play him. :oldrazz:

[Dave_W]

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1070/supermansupergirlleetur.jpg

Mike Turner...the best Superman artist ever...in my very humble opinion.

[GreenKToo]

lol.:twisted:

[Cool Monty]

it doesn't matter how much muscles he puts on, his general frame is just too gracile. Superman needs an athletic built with big bones and a square face.

Too bad we won't find such a guy under Hollywood's current "girlie" main actors :csad:

And dumbest post of the day goes to Truer To The Core. :whatever:

[ChickenScratch]

There's nothing small or girlie about Brandon, the dude's friggin' huge. I've stood beside him and I'm 6'3 and I'll tell you he's got a pretty large frame on him. Could he be more muscular? Sure, but that depends on your definition of Superman's size, I think he's just fine.

[Superman-Prime]

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1070/supermansupergirlleetur.jpg

Gosh... I miss Michael Turner's art. :(

Also, I love Jim Lee's art.

[Antonello Blueberry]

it doesn't matter how much muscles he puts on, his general frame is just too gracile. Superman needs an athletic built with big bones and a square face.

Too bad we won't find such a guy under Hollywood's current "girlie" main actors :csad:
Let me guess, you want Chuck Norris as Superman? Or the Guvernator?

[GreenKToo]

The pic I posted said it all. Its just silly to say he is skinny (especially now), and while I did and do think he could have been bigger for SR, I wouldnt say he was skinny in it.
I think he is the perfect size now.

[Angeloz]

I am.

I understand.

Small jaw with no chin? Girlie eyes?

I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder but opinion definately differs a great deal from yours by and large. Routh seems pretty manly to me at least - and it's not like you can counter by saying his voice is too high or something as his voice is pretty deep.

Out of interest, how does a person have 'girlie eyes'? I dont see Routh wearing any mascara............... :hehe:

Anyways, about the skinny thing, Angeloz has already made the point already in the post below. Routh couldve got a lot bigger but was under studio mandate not go gain any more muscle or weight than when the digital measurements of his body were taken in order to make the suit.

I guess I could post the workout pics [yet again] to show how Routh actually was buff without the constriction of the suit but they've been posted way to many times already and I'll spare people from having to see them again.

I wouldn't object to seeing them again. :D

Anyways, the guy sure isnt skinny now; It seems that TruerToTheCore already knows this and so.....................



Ah, so now we go from 'he was too skinny' to 'it doesnt matter how much muscle he puts on he'll never be good enough?

Please.

Talk about changing the goalposts.

Gracile?

Let's see, check list of Brandon's attributes at the moment-

Thick neck? Check.
Big chest? Check.
Good arms? Check.
Big traps? Check.
Thick Back? Check.
Thick legs? Check.

Seems good enough to me; besides, as Angeloz has also mentioned - you get a guy too big and its looks ridiculous. I know you obviously want someone that looks like Mr Olympia in the role so I'm assuming that you havent seen Mike O'Hearn as Superman in Worlds Finest? The guy looks laughable in Clark Kents suit.

He would fool no-one.

And Routh's jaw is fine. Any squarer a jaw and we'd have to get Robert D'Zar to play him. :oldrazz:

Nice post. :) Although I don't know Robert D'Zar. Is there a picture? ;)

There's nothing small or girlie about Brandon, the dude's friggin' huge. I've stood beside him and I'm 6'3 and I'll tell you he's got a pretty large frame on him. Could he be more muscular? Sure, but that depends on your definition of Superman's size, I think he's just fine.

Is it too personal if I ask if you're a male? By the way congratulations on meeting him. I agree with you but we all know that.

The pic I posted said it all. Its just silly to say he is skinny (especially now), and while I did and do think he could have been bigger for SR, I wouldnt say he was skinny in it.
I think he is the perfect size now.

Interesting. Nice statement.

Angeloz

[ChickenScratch]

QUOTE=Angeloz;17261893]I understand.
I wouldn't object to seeing them again. :D
Nice post. :) Although I don't know Robert D'Zar. Is there a picture? ;)
Is it too personal if I ask if you're a male? By the way congratulations on meeting him. I agree with you but we all know that.
Interesting. Nice statement.
Angeloz[/QUOTE]

Yes I am male, my real name is even in my signature. I'm also a lifelong athlete (karate) and am pretty huge myself and he's pretty big. The suit stretches over the muscles hiding definition but let me tell you, I've got 17 inch neck and he made me look skinny.

[Angeloz]

Interesting. Where did you meet him?

Angeloz

[ChickenScratch]

Gym in the city here. Couple months before SR came out.

[Angeloz]

Gym in the city here. Couple months before SR came out.

:wow: Thanks for sharing this.

Angeloz

[RachelDawes]

Gym in the city here. Couple months before SR came out.

He was huge even when he was down to his SR weight? Imagine how massive he is now.

[ChickenScratch]

Yeah, I never got how people seem to be under the impression that he's small. Maybe he doesn't look like Ed McGuinness's Superman, but he's pretty damn big.

[Double Down]

http://annecam.ning.com/video/brandon-routh-talks-superman

It's a nice interview, but it seems to get cut off at an inopportune time.
Anne Thompson overplays the Superman part in the headline, though.

[Man of Tomorrow]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/brandon-routh-poynt-presents-iesbne.jpg

[Bruce_Begins]

I have tried to be open minded to all the suggested superman wannabe actors here, but no one truely fits the character as close as Brandon Routh does, so instead of going through the whole casting process again, and taking an unknown with a potential risk of him doing justice to the role etc, just get Routh to play Superman again.

Brandon Routh looks more like Superman these days than he did in SR, it would be a huge mistake to let someone else take his place as Supes.

I don't have much faith in WB casting deptartment, after all they were okay with Armie hammer as Batman and D J Cotrona as Superman, and in past they even wanted some established actor like Nicholas Cage as Supes, and were at some point considering Aston Kutchner too.

[TheComicbookKid]

So I guess Routh wasn't just saying stuff when he said there was momentum at the WB. They don't have to start casting anytime soon, so I'm sure Dead of Night's box office will hold some sway with the people still behind Routh as Supes.

[FilmNerdJamie]

They don't have to start casting anytime soon, so I'm sure Dead of Night's box office will hold some sway with the people still behind Routh as Supes.

In the same way that Valkyrie's box-office success had zero impact on Singer's participation, I'd say the same applies to Routh and Dead of Night.

[TheComicbookKid]

SR's "failure" was actually credited to Singer. And wasn't it said that the WB wanted Singer to helm another as long as he did it under their direction? Valkyrie wouldn't have figured into it anyway.


After so many years of you and Showtime giving "hints" to the WB's thinking, I'll stop arguing.:yay:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I really do hope Brandon gets another shot at the cape, but at this point, I just cant see it, he was awesome in SR though, he is a big factor in why I enjoy that movie so much.

[TheComicbookKid]

Yeah, I don't see it either. I also didn't think we'd be getting a GL or talk of a Supes movie before 2014 so hey, whatever.

Funny looking at your avater AVEITWITHJAMON. Changing the cast of Hulk didn't change much. The best this possible movie will do is going to be based on controlling that budget.

[sf2]

let's see if he will be given a 2nd chance.

[Superark]

I really do hope Brandon gets another shot at the cape, but at this point, I just cant see it, he was awesome in SR though, he is a big factor in why I enjoy that movie so much.


let's see if he will be given a 2nd chance.

Me too!

He absolutely deserves a second chance

[Superman-Prime]

Me too!

He absolutely deserves a second chance

I agree! That's what he needs.

[Ita-KalEl]

I like Routh in the role and I would like to see him in bluetighs again, but at this point his involment in the rumored new Superman movie isn't too important. There are 100000 ways to do a good Superman movie even without him.

[GreenKToo]

WB may surprise everyone and bring routh back, but personally, I doubt it.
It wouldnt be a real reboot with him there even if everything else were different.
Still, i'm not sold on this latest rumor, so for me, anything is possible.

[Mostpowerful]

I have tried to be open minded to all the suggested superman wannabe actors here, but no one truely fits the character as close as Brandon Routh does, so instead of going through the whole casting process again, and taking an unknown with a potential risk of him doing justice to the role etc, just get Routh to play Superman again.

Brandon Routh looks more like Superman these days than he did in SR, it would be a huge mistake to let someone else take his place as Supes.

I don't have much faith in WB casting deptartment, after all they were okay with Armie hammer as Batman and D J Cotrona as Superman, and in past they even wanted some established actor like Nicholas Cage as Supes, and were at some point considering Aston Kutchner too.

Agreed.


let's see if he will be given a 2nd chance.

Me too!

He absolutely deserves a second chance

Yup, he earned it.


Cute interview. Superman is also a geek! :woot:

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/07/31/superman-is-a-huge-warcraft-nerd-wants-to-be-in-movie-video/


.

[Superark]

WB may surprise everyone and bring routh back, but personally, I doubt it.
It wouldnt be a real reboot with him there even if everything else were different.
Still, i'm not sold on this latest rumor, so for me, anything is possible.


I don't know why bringing Routh back would be a surprise to everyone. He's been rumoured to reprise his role for awhile, despite the ongoing changes on the franchise.

But you're right, anything can happen

[Cool Monty]

Here's the thing, though. Does changing the cast always work in a reboot? Did it help The Incredible Hulk? Punisher: Warzone? Everyone outside of the internet and comic film circles thought Batman Begins was still a sequel and its box office suffered a little for it. However, on that point, one could argue that once people saw BB and realized it was a full on reboot, that made seeing any sequel from it (TDK) grow in anticipation. I think the same could be done with Brandon in a rebooted Superman film.

[GreenKToo]

For me, if it had the same cast but was a totally different film in tone and action, i'd be more than fine with it.
I dont think it would matter one bit if the cast were the same as long as it delivered everthing that SR didnt. The public would care either.

[Ita-KalEl]

Here's the thing, though. Does changing the cast always work in a reboot? Did it help The Incredible Hulk? Punisher: Warzone? Everyone outside of the internet and comic film circles thought Batman Begins was still a sequel and its box office suffered a little for it. However, on that point, one could argue that once people saw BB and realized it was a full on reboot, that made seeing any sequel from it (TDK) grow in anticipation. I think the same could be done with Brandon in a rebooted Superman film.

IMO even with the best cast ever a Hulk movie can't do far more than 120-130m.

[GreenKToo]

If the director can bring the right sort of Superman film to the table, the public will see it. WOM always kicks in on good films.

[RachelDawes]

For me, if it had the same cast but was a totally different film in tone and action, i'd be more than fine with it.
I dont think it would matter one bit if the cast were the same as long as it delivered everthing that SR didnt. The public would care either.

The only cast members I absolutely wouldn't want to see return would be Bosworth and Spacey. Of course, if Routh is brought back then most or all of the rest of the cast would probably have to be replaced to make it more obvious that it was a reboot. That's a shame as I liked Jimmy.

IMO even with the best cast ever a Hulk movie can't do far more than 120-130m.

I agree with this.

[GreenKToo]

well, even tho I really REALLY disliked spacey's Lex, i'd give him another look if it was going to be a different Lex. <----I hope that made sense.

[RachelDawes]

well, even tho I really REALLY disliked spacey's Lex, i'd give him another look if it was going to be a different Lex. <----I hope that made sense.

You mean if Lex were written differently.

[Angeloz]

I don't see why they can't keep Jimmy too. Think Q in Bond. ;)

Angeloz

[GreenKToo]

You mean if Lex were written differently.
Yes. I think spacey has it in him to be a terrific Lex.

[what_19]

Yes. I think spacey has it in him to be a terrific Lex.

yeh i agree..but as much as i'd like to see his take on the more "modern" lex, this is something that i think could really confuse the audience...keeping the same supes and the same lex and sticking them in a completely different world would really confuse people i think. but i could be wrong, and i think if its a great movie then people will easily get over it and move on

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Personally, I want Spacey OUT. He's the one cast member that I really don't want back... His Lex was plain and blase.

I've said before who would give us the greatest Luthor we've ever seen.

[verisimilitude]

GO BRANDON GO!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c122/kallell/Sup-Zod2.jpg

[Superark]

GO BRANDON GO!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c122/kallell/Sup-Zod2.jpg


:lmao: I would so make this my avvy, but the size I have wouldn't do it justice

:up:

[SuperDaniel]

Spacey's Luthor was the worst incarnation ever. He was a bad imitation of Gene Jackman.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Edit.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Spacey's Luthor was the worst incarnation ever. He was a bad imitation of Gene Jackman.I hated his/Singer/the other writers Lex just as much as you did.

Personally I still don't want to see Routh back and multiply that times 10 and thats how much I don't want Bosworth and Spacey back....good actors but wrong for their roles.

It's too bad I am so eh towards Brandon because he does actually look good for the role. I said that when they first cast him and I'm sticking by that opinion.

[Dude101]

I would to have Routh back to me he is the best Superman.

[verisimilitude]

:lmao: I would so make this my avvy, but the size I have wouldn't do it justice

:up:

Haha thank you :cwink:

[Angeloz]

:lmao: I would so make this my avvy, but the size I have wouldn't do it justice

:up:

I'm glad you won't chage you're avy as I love your current one.

I would to have Routh back to me he is the best Superman.

:)

Angeloz

[Superman-Prime]

GO BRANDON GO!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c122/kallell/Sup-Zod2.jpg

:up: :up: :up:



Personally I still don't want to see Routh back and multiply that times 10 and thats how much I don't want Bosworth and Spacey back....good actors but wrong for their roles.

It's too bad I am so eh towards Brandon because he does actually look good for the role. I said that when they first cast him and I'm sticking by that opinion.

That is amusing. :whatever: Brandon deserves to play as Clark Kent/Superman. That's what he wants for the next film.

I would to have Routh back to me he is the best Superman.

QFT!

[Bruce_Begins]

I really don't think that General public would be bothered with why Routh is in a reboot, just make everything different than SR, move away from Donnerverse, and get a new theme.

A good director can make full use of Routh's acting potential as Superman, which we could not see in SR as Singer made him too restrained, and gave him little dialogue.

BRANDON ROUTH FOR SUPERMAN REBOOT !

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That is amusing. :whatever: Brandon deserves to play as Clark Kent/Superman. That's what he wants for the next film.I think that another actor deserves a shot. I'm happy that the fans of SR liked his performance but I didn't so I want him gone. As far as I'm concerned the best Superman performance comes courtesy of Tim Daily's voiceover via Timm/Dini's writing. The best liveaction version is obviously Reeve's but I hate his Clark Kent so I litteraly only like his Superman.

We've had far to many lame actors protray the Man of Steel, it's time to hire somebody with a better than average acting talent.

IMHO.

[Crook]

The way I see it, if said actor is considered satisfactory or alright by the masses, and didn't win most of them wholeheartedly....that's more than enough grounds for looking elsewhere. The audience isn't demanding Routh be recast, but they're not exactly going to riot with someone else in the tights. More or less because interest in this franchise is waning at a steep rate.

In any case, there have been far more instances of recasts in which mainstream favorites ended up being overthrown by their successors. If the biggest hurdles such as those can be jumped over, then it's pretty foolish to assume that an actor with a split fanbase is somehow irreplaceable.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My problem is that some Routh fans seem to think that the movie will 100% fail if the recast the lead role. Thats a ridiculous thought, it's as ridiculous as the thought that the movie will fail because he is recast in the role. I don't "know" that it would so I'm not going to say that it would fail if Brandon donned the tights again.

I do think that it would be needlessly confusing to hire Routh for a reboot but I'm not ready to say that it would kill the movie at the boxoffice.

[DavidTyler]

Personally, I don't care if it's Routh or someone else in the cape ... it's about the story and the director.... and the friggin costume.

I think there's been enough distance between SR and the general awareness by now. If Brandon is Supes in a reboot I'm sure the public wouldn't remember the details of SR although it would have to be a true reboot with an origin story.

That would be the crucial step in allowing Brandon to return to the role without the GP confusing it with the earlier film.

[GreenKToo]

The way I see it, if said actor is considered satisfactory or alright by the masses, and didn't win most of them wholeheartedly....that's more than enough grounds for looking elsewhere. The audience isn't demanding Routh be recast, but they're not exactly going to riot with someone else in the tights. More or less because interest in this franchise is waning at a steep rate.

In any case, there have been far more instances of recasts in which mainstream favorites ended up being overthrown by their successors. If the biggest hurdles such as those can be jumped over, then it's pretty foolish to assume that an actor with a split fanbase is somehow irreplaceable.

My problem is that some Routh fans seem to think that the movie will 100% fail if the recast the lead role. Thats a ridiculous thought, it's as ridiculous as the thought that the movie will fail because he is recast in the role. I don't "know" that it would so I'm not going to say that it would fail if Brandon donned the tights again.

I do think that it would be needlessly confusing to hire Routh for a reboot but I'm not ready to say that it would kill the movie at the boxoffice.

Personally, I don't care if it's Routh or someone else in the cape ... it's about the story and the director.... and the friggin costume.

I think there's been enough distance between SR and the general awareness by now. If Brandon is Supes in a reboot I'm sure the public wouldn't remember the details of SR although it would have to be a true reboot with an origin story.

That would be the crucial step in allowing Brandon to return to the role without the GP confusing it with the earlier film.
Agree with all.

[Bruce_Begins]

Personally, I don't care if it's Routh or someone else in the cape ... it's about the story and the director.... and the friggin costume.

I think there's been enough distance between SR and the general awareness by now. If Brandon is Supes in a reboot I'm sure the public wouldn't remember the details of SR although it would have to be a true reboot with an origin story.

That would be the crucial step in allowing Brandon to return to the role without the GP confusing it with the earlier film.

Story and director and Action elements all are very crucial to making a successful supes movie, and equally important aspect is the actor who wears the supes costume, in case of character like Superman, which has been a part of comics for last 50 (?) years and numerous small screen and big screen incarnations, a wrong guy can seriously damage the franchise (maybe even kill it.)

I will just ask you this question, what would have happened if Donner and Manekwiez (sp?) had cast Burt Reynolds (and someone else who did auditions and screen tests.) instead of Chris Reeve in STM ? Would that movie been just as successful because of great special effects (for that period.), good story, good direction etc.

I think not.

[Bruce_Begins]

I think WB at this stage, would take no chances with deadline of 2011 approaching fast and the the risk of making even one mistake taking down the franchise and handing it over to whoever siegels want to, not to speak the great cost of their reputation getting tarnished (that is what will happen if WB becomes Unsuccessful to reveive the Superman second time in a period of less than nine years, look what has happened to HULK, it is almost dead franchaise now.) is a HUGE Risk.

Would they choose a complete Unknown ? or a Widely popular Star ? or Routh again ? what can be a miminal risk ? I think chooseing Routh is a safe option, and personally speaking, I think Routh should be in a Reboot/ Restart whatever.

[Superman-Prime]

BRANDON ROUTH FOR SUPERMAN REBOOT !

:up:

Well said.

I think that another actor deserves a shot.

Oh please. I completely disagree.

[Angeloz]

Any other pictures? ;)

Angeloz

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I think WB at this stage, would take no chances with deadline of 2011 approaching fast and the the risk of making even one mistake taking down the franchise and handing it over to whoever siegels want to, not to speak the great cost of their reputation getting tarnished (that is what will happen if WB becomes Unsuccessful to reveive the Superman second time in a period of less than nine years, look what has happened to HULK, it is almost dead franchaise now.) is a HUGE Risk.

Would they choose a complete Unknown ? or a Widely popular Star ? or Routh again ? what can be a miminal risk ? I think chooseing Routh is a safe option, and personally speaking, I think Routh should be in a Reboot/ Restart whatever.

That's what I said a while back. If they're supposedly in such a big rush to get things moving, that might make them go with Brandon again rather then go through some big ole casting thing again.

[TheComicbookKid]

Oh please. I completely disagree.

Come on, if a new guy is cast, it's not his fault that the WB decided to choose a new guy. I think we'd owe the new guy a chance to prove himself.

[Mostpowerful]

GO BRANDON GO!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c122/kallell/Sup-Zod2.jpg

That's funny! :woot:


I would to have Routh back to me he is the best Superman.

Agreed.




I think that another actor deserves a shot.


We've had far to many lame actors protray the Man of Steel, it's time to hire somebody with a better than average acting talent.

IMHO.

And I think that Brandon deserves it more. He earned it. :cwink:

I also think he is a good actor. He definitely has the acting chops (plus the voice, the look, the presence, the right personality to carry the super torch) to portray The Man of Steel, IMO.

[Superman-Prime]

I think WB at this stage, would take no chances with deadline of 2011 approaching fast and the the risk of making even one mistake taking down the franchise and handing it over to whoever siegels want to, not to speak the great cost of their reputation getting tarnished (that is what will happen if WB becomes Unsuccessful to reveive the Superman second time in a period of less than nine years, look what has happened to HULK, it is almost dead franchaise now.) is a HUGE Risk.

Well, you know... according to Gale, The Incredible Hulk is considering a successful. There would be a sequel of this and also, Edward might be in The Avengers as the Hulk.

Would they choose a complete Unknown ? or a Widely popular Star ? or Routh again ? what can be a miminal risk ? I think chooseing Routh is a safe option, and personally speaking, I think Routh should be in a Reboot/ Restart whatever.

:up:

[SuperDaniel]

From the Planet boards :D :

i came across this new picture of routh. Just thought i'd share...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/Puckenstein/woodenrouth.jpg

[Superman-Prime]

I don't think this is funny. I think it's stupid and lame.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

That's the way half the idiots on the Supe boards are... it's never gonna get any different.

[Superman-Prime]

That's the way half the idiots on the Supe boards are... it's never gonna get any different.

Sorry, bud. They can't help it.

[nintendo nerd]

From the Planet boards :D :

Wow. SuperDaniel is a troll now. :whatever:

[Superman Prime]

That's actually chuckle-worthy, and I'm not a Routh detractor.

[GreenKToo]

Lol. I'm getting a good laugh out of some of these comments.

[Puckenstein]

I don't think this is funny. I think it's stupid and lame.
Then you have no sense of humor.

That's the way half the idiots on the Supe boards are... it's never gonna get any different.
...says the person who claims that if you're not a Routh fan, you're not a Superman fan. :whatever:

[RachelDawes]

That's actually chuckle-worthy, and I'm not a Routh detractor.

I smiled at it. :yay:

[Superman-Prime]

Then you have no sense of humor.

Oh, I do but SuperDaniel don't.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Then you have no sense of humor.


...says the person who claims that if you're not a Routh fan, you're not a Superman fan. :whatever:
It was kind of funny, but I did a similar joke with TW a long time ago. I manipped his head on a wooden chair. Had I not already done the joke with someone else it would have been funnier.

Just imagine if it were that pic of TW's acting. I'm sure he would have been laughing like crazy. Ya know, the one that shows one facial expression of Tom repeated under different captions.

Can't get mad just because it is the guy you support :o

[Retroman]

IMO it's bit of an overreaction to say that someone has no sense of humor if they didn't get that joke just because you happen to find it funny. We all have different tastes.:o

Here's some random info on what the makeup artists contribution to BR's Superman look was.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4849/4747brandonrouthsuperma.jpg
Brandon Routh as Superman in Superman Returns
Make-up by Nikki Gooley

We don’t usually do Beauty Breakdowns on men, but isn’t this a beautiful face? Brandon Routh, the new Superman, has a lot of lore to live up to. Gooley created three looks for him, and his “hero” face is shown here.
“I wanted Brandon as ‘hero Superman’ to have a slightly comic book, sculptured face in keeping with the classic Superman, and also looking completely handsome,” Gooley says.


Foundation
Stephanie Marais Foundation 02 on the highlights then a mix of 04 and 05 all over
Concealer
Shu Uemura Mark Concealer and RCMA in Shinto 2
Powder
M.A.C. Studio Fix C6 and M.A.C. Blot in Medium
Blush
M.A.C. Powder Blush in Blossom
Lips
Carmex
Highlights / Countour
Contour: Stephanie Marais Foundation 06
Additional Information
Working with this face: “The key was sculpting with heavy Stephanie Marais colors.” Source:http://makeup411.com/breakdowns/id/390/

[ChickenScratch]

Wow, they used make up on an actor, who would have guessed.

[DavidTyler]

Story and director and Action elements all are very crucial to making a successful supes movie, and equally important aspect is the actor who wears the supes costume, in case of character like Superman, which has been a part of comics for last 50 (?) years and numerous small screen and big screen incarnations, a wrong guy can seriously damage the franchise (maybe even kill it.)

I will just ask you this question, what would have happened if Donner and Manekwiez (sp?) had cast Burt Reynolds (and someone else who did auditions and screen tests.) instead of Chris Reeve in STM ? Would that movie been just as successful because of great special effects (for that period.), good story, good direction etc.

I think not.

I think you know exactly what would have happened.

Burt Reynolds as Superman would have been the final comedic nail in the coffin of the character. As it was, Christopher Reeve (and to a smaller extent Margot Kidder) were the only elements in that film that weren't overtly campy or comedic.

It would have succeeded but as an out and out comedy. It also would have seriously tarnished the character. Think the 1960's Batman televison series.

[Brian Braddock]

In the same vein, what would it have been like had Nick Nolte been cast?

[Webhead2006]

ya its weird to hear about folks like them had the chance to play this character other folks for example for han solo/indiana jones, etc... to see what the film could have been with others in place.

[LL2K2]

In the same vein, what would it have been like had Nick Nolte been cast?

Or Robert Redford, or Clint Eastwood, or Steve McQueen, or (God forbid) Bruce Jenner? Or even Cavill, Welling, Bomer, Kutcher, Hartnett, or Law?

We'll never know for sure, but it's fun to visualize. :D

[GreenKToo]

Not supes related, but Tom Selleck was offered the lead (or was in the running) for Raiders of the lost Ark. I seriously doubt Indy would have been the icon he is now without ford playing him.
Of course we can't know that for sure, but still........

[GreenKToo]

EDIT. Double.

[Webhead2006]

Ya i knew selleck was up for the role but couldnt do it due to his commitment with magum pi(spelling?)

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Or Robert Redford, or Clint Eastwood, or Steve McQueen, or (God forbid) Bruce Jenner? Or even Cavill, Welling, Bomer, Kutcher, Hartnett, or Law?

We'll never know for sure, but it's fun to visualize. :D

Clint Eastwood as Batman, with Reeve as Superman? Now that's an ultimate World's Finest visualization.

[Puckenstein]

I always thought that a young Eastwood would have made a hell of a Wolverine.

[Sam]

I always thought that a young Eastwood would have made a hell of a Wolverine.

Well, u have Jackman. ;)

Jackman looks A LOT like a young Eastwood.

[Puckenstein]

Well, u have Jackman. ;)

Jackman looks A LOT like a young Eastwood.

I know, I know.

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/252460-clint_eastwood_wolverine.jpg

[daywalker2007]

Not supes related, but Tom Selleck was offered the lead (or was in the running) for Raiders of the lost Ark. I seriously doubt Indy would have been the icon he is now without ford playing him.
Of course we can't know that for sure, but still........

Selleck would have been terrific as Indy, I really feel for the guy, but hey, at least we got Magnum!
Ford already had Han Solo as a legendary character to his name, and then the lucky bugger got Indy too!

But Selleck still did well in the late 80s with several movies like 3 men and a baby etc

Selleck would have been different, but he still would have been just as iconic. Selleck can play funny just as well as Ford, as shown by his Friends tv appearances.

[Brian Braddock]

He certainly wouldve been different but I think the best guy go the job in the end.

Of course, I'm biased as I grew up with Ford's Indy and Selleck's Magnum and they're so entrenched in those roles in my psyche it's hard to imagine anyone else playing them. I mean, Sellecks screentest for Indy is painful to watch with the handicap of hindsight; it literally is like watching an episode of Magnum P.I. were he is wearing a hat and reciting Indiana Jones lines.

[Octoberist]

I know, I know.

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/252460-clint_eastwood_wolverine.jpg

that's amazing.

I still think that Jackman still has had his "IT" movie yet besides the X-Men movies. Eastwood, from his young days to his late 40s, had an awesome body of work that is iconic now.

[GreenKToo]

Eastwood would have made one HELLA Jonah Hex.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I always thought that a young Eastwood would have made a hell of a Wolverine.

I've always pictured him as a Neal Adams-ish Batman, but now that you say that, I can definitely see Wolverine too.

[Dude101]

Eastwood is The Dark night Returns batman. To bad he's to old now. But man he would have rock it.

[Double Down]

http://4outof10.com/stuntmen-review-brandon-routh-at-his-best/

Relevant highlights:


Stuntmen review – Brandon Routh at his best

Critique:

In the spirit of This is Spinal Tap, Stuntmen follows two er… stuntmen as they discuss their careers, sexual partners and rivalry of each other. Thrown into the mix is an array of oddly amusing characters including a floor-flatteningly funny turn from Brandon Routh (Superman Returns) as your typical stuntman agent.
...

This film owes a great deal to Chris Tarantino as the ever-pretentious interviewer who takes on a “British” accent the second he gets behind a microphone. He, Lance LeGault and Brandon Routh could have stayed on camera for the full 90 minutes and I would have been very happy.

[Vgerland]

Thanks for posting that DD :D. I got the google alert too and saw it shortly before coming here. Sounds like the movie is okay but would have been better if centered on Brandon's character and the interviewer.

[Double Down]

^ I don't have a Google alert set up.

[Showtime]

They give Double Down news via pony express.

[Double Down]

Old school is the only way to go. :up:

[Vgerland]

They give Double Down news via pony express.

Old school is the only way to go. :up:


Well my google alert actually hit my mailbox at 12:09 PM Pacific time. I just wasn't home and online to open the mail.

:huh: How on earth do you get those scoops DD if you don't have a google alert set up? Superhearing? Superclairvoiance? :wow: (did I even spell that right?)

[Double Down]

I'm everywhere. :ninja:

[Mostpowerful]

Maybe DD is Brandon's agent? :wow: :woot: :cwink:

[Vgerland]

Maybe DD is Brandon's agent? :wow: :woot: :cwink:


Ha ha don't we wish we had an 'in' with that person. Like what is Brandon working on now? What is next? I hope we hear of some more jucy projects soon. Surely he is not going to just hang around playing WOW till he is needed to do the promotions for DoN and Scott Pilgrim.

I bet maybe that was what slowed him down after SR. He had to keep his calendar somewhat clear to be available for the never to come sequel.

[bigbluefan]

Ha ha don't we wish we had an 'in' with that person. Like what is Brandon working on now? What is next? I hope we hear of some more jucy projects soon. Surely he is not going to just hang around playing WOW till he is needed to do the promotions for DoN and Scott Pilgrim.

I bet maybe that was what slowed him down after SR. He had to keep his calendar somewhat clear to be available for the never to come sequel.

He's most probably spending every waking moment trying to get himself into that WoW movie :grin:

[Brian Braddock]

http://4outof10.com/stuntmen-review-brandon-routh-at-his-best/

Relevant highlights:

Routh's little snippet looked pretty funny there - I'll have to check this one out.

I mean, who doesnt love Ray Wise?

[Antonello Blueberry]

Maybe DD is Brandon's agent? :wow: :woot: :cwink:
Maybe DD is Brandon...

[Lightning54SC]

i hate ROuth but im donw to give hima shot again! the hell with it give to him

[FilmNerdJamie]

'Chuck' lands Superman (a.k.a. Brandon Routh)!
by Michael Ausiello
Aug 27 2009 11:46 AM ET

It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s the most awesome casting news ever: Erstwhile Superman Brandon Routh is joining Chuck for a multi-episode arc, sources confirm to me exclusively.

Who’s he playing and what impact will it have on Chuck and Sarah? Keep reading and find out!

Routh’s character, Shaw, is a mysterious new spy who takes control as the new leader of Operation Bartwoski, becoming a mentor to Chuck and a rival in his affections for Sarah.

Bottom line: Who better to teach Chuck how to use his powers that the Man of Steel himself?!

Memo to NBC: Please don’t make us wait until March for Chuck! Anyone care to echo that sentiment? Head to the comments. And while you’re down there, share your thoughts about Routh! http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/27/chuck-lands-superman-brandon-routh/

[Antonello Blueberry]

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/27/chuck-lands-superman-brandon-routh/
Will we see a Matthew Bomer Vs Brandon Routh fight?
Superman vs Skinny Superman?

[batman44]

^Nope, Matthew Bomer's character (Bryce) was killed in the season finale.

[Double Down]

^ A spoiler would have been nice for that. Some people didn't know that.

[ChickenScratch]

Sounds great, Superman on Chuck, it's like one of those cross overs your dream of. LOL.

[dark_b]

whats with people on SHH in the last years? they are writting spoilers like its nothing.
i mean its not like its 10 years old like The sixth sense.

:)

[Mostpowerful]

I've never watched this show before but will start doing so now, :D



'Chuck': Brandon Routh's role is top-secret

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/08/chuck-brandon-rouths-role-is-top-secret.html


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[Superark]

I've never watched this show before but will start doing so now, :D



'Chuck': Brandon Routh's role is top-secret

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/08/chuck-brandon-rouths-role-is-top-secret.html


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It's a really good show! I don't watch it that often, which I have no good logical reason for that, but when I do I get a kick out of it.

This will be a good show for Routh to be on and gain some popularity and experience.

It's unfortunate that the legal battles with WB and the Shusters have probably killed the chances of a Superman film coming out within the next few years, thus killing Routh's chance at playing Superman again. But its good to see he is landing some solid roles

[KalMart]

Will we see a Matthew Bomer Vs Brandon Routh fight?
Superman vs Skinny Superman?

More like ex-Superman vs. Skinny Toyotaman :O

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Everyone could see what a runt Bomer is then.

[redtail]

Most "Chuck" fans are meh about this. Been there, done that. Doesn't help that Routh is just there to replace a much better Bomer, who was well like and thought as sexy on the show.

The Chuck cast is excellent, Routh will be overwhelmed. He is too dull for this show. Too bad.

[LL2K2]

Most "Chuck" fans are meh about this. Been there, done that. Doesn't help that Routh is just there to replace a much better Bomer, who was well like and thought as sexy on the show.

The Chuck cast is excellent, Routh will be overwhelmed. He is too dull for this show. Too bad.

Do you have a DeLorean parked around here? :dry:

[Mostpowerful]

Do you have a DeLorean parked around here? :dry:

Don't worry about it; he/she is a Routh Troll.

[Vgerland]

Anyone who saw Brandon and Zackery in Stuntmen together know they will make a great team on that show.

Chuck is LUCKY to have Brandon! No doubt that is why they are planning to air his shows during April sweeps time. Sweet!

[Brian Braddock]

Don't worry about it; he/she is a Routh Troll.

And then some.

[SuperAl]

it'll be nice to see whether Routh can actually act. I watched a little bit of Hot in Cracktown or w/e its called. He wasnt too good in that, then again neither was most of the cast.

[Cool Monty]

Most "Chuck" fans are meh about this. Been there, done that. Doesn't help that Routh is just there to replace a much better Bomer, who was well like and thought as sexy on the show.

The Chuck cast is excellent, Routh will be overwhelmed. He is too dull for this show. Too bad.

How in the hell have you not been banned yet? Like 40 of your 47 posts are trashing Routh and others as well, which adds nothing to the conversation. Much like the one above. Look, I dislike Tom Welling, but you don't hear me going around cutting the dude down every chance I get.

[Venom'sDad]

I kinda agree with redtail on this one; however, I certainly hope Routh can hold his own on the show. I really like him and think he got a raw deal from Singer's script. Routh was a good looking Superman imo.

Bring the funny Routh, wish you the best on the show.

[Mostpowerful]

It's a really good show! I don't watch it that often, which I have no good logical reason for that, but when I do I get a kick out of it.

This will be a good show for Routh to be on and gain some popularity and experience.

... But its good to see he is landing some solid roles

Agreed. And yes, I'm hearing very good things about the show, I will try to rent or buy the other two seasons. :yay:


Anyone who saw Brandon and Zackery in Stuntmen together know they will make a great team on that show.

Chuck is LUCKY to have Brandon! No doubt that is why they are planning to air his shows during April sweeps time. Sweet!

And Brandon was also very funny in Zack & Miri, Table for Three and his Clark was hilarious at times. I'm sure Brandon will do a good job in the show. He is more than capable. Gah, can't wait, though the wait is too long. :csad:

[RachelDawes]

How in the hell have you not been banned yet? Like 40 of your 47 posts are trashing Routh and others as well, which adds nothing to the conversation. Much like the one above. Look, I dislike Tom Welling, but you don't hear me going around cutting the dude down every chance I get.

He's only got 47 posts so he must've slipped under the radar. I don't really mind if he criticizes Routh though because there's no law everyone has to like him and it's not like he's spamming the board.

[Webhead2006]

Well you guys all know i dont like routh myself, As for Chuck the show i enjoy it alot. As for routh's character in his episode arc he is doing for the show I dont know if it will be good or bad for the show.

[Timstuff]

it'll be nice to see whether Routh can actually act. I watched a little bit of Hot in Cracktown or w/e its called. He wasnt too good in that, then again neither was most of the cast.

It really does seem kind of stupid that there's a whole movie of Routh as Superman, and yet it wasn't enough to demonstrate whether or not he was actually good for the role since he did nothing by stare longingly at Kate Bosworth for 2 hours while looking like Reeve.

[Brian Braddock]

How in the hell have you not been banned yet? Like 40 of your 47 posts are trashing Routh and others as well, which adds nothing to the conversation. Much like the one above. Look, I dislike Tom Welling, but you don't hear me going around cutting the dude down every chance I get.

I guess it's a class thing; in that you obviously have more of it than Redtail does.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

He's only got 47 posts so he must've slipped under the radar. I don't really mind if he criticizes Routh though because there's no law everyone has to like him and it's not like he's spamming the board.

When that's every other post you see from someone, it's a different story. Like someone else said I don't care for Welling, but I hardly ever mention that fact.

If someone doesn't like something, then don't go around bragging about it.

[RachelDawes]

When that's every other post you see from someone, it's a different story. Like someone else said I don't care for Welling, but I hardly ever mention that fact.

If someone doesn't like something, then don't go around bragging about it.

Yeah, but he posts like once a month, so he's easy to ignore.

[Mostpowerful]

When that's every other post you see from someone, it's a different story. Like someone else said I don't care for Welling, but I hardly ever mention that fact.

If someone doesn't like something, then don't go around bragging about it.

Exactly. I mean, if I did the exact same thing in the Smallville forum (bashing Welling constantly), I have NO doubt that the mods would have given me a warning a long time ago..



Yeah, but he posts like once a month, so he's easy to ignore.

You mean easier? :oldrazz:

[RachelDawes]

You mean easier? :oldrazz:

You have returned! :word:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Exactly. I mean, if I did the exact same thing in the Smallville forum (bashing Welling constantly), I have NO doubt that the mods would have given me a warning a long time ago..





You mean easier? :oldrazz:
That would be correct my dear. You are okay in that forum till you go against the show or become a fan of Superman Returns and publicly state it after that your days are numbered. I racked up few warnings in that forum because I disagreed in the direction of the show during season 4-7 (and I was and still am a fan of the show) I just did not like the direction it was going and was vocal about it and got punished for defending why I was so vocal. In that forum its either you are with us or against us.

[RachelDawes]

^Is there any other superhero that has as many rivalries between fanboys as Superman? :huh: :csad:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

^^^ I really don't think so... not that I've noticed anyway. I don't see nearly as much arguing in any Batman thread. Doesn't mean it's not there though.