Man of Steel: The Official Brandon Routh Thread

[KalMart]

^True. It's not Nolan or Snyder or anyone else but Singer and his blatant COPY of Donner's films!

Routh's at least getting some roles out there and seems to be doing okay. From what he's said, he has a good outlook on it and realizes the opportunity it gave him. He's a good kid, and we can at the very least wish him well.

[SrsBsns]

Welling was never in consideration for Superman since the old days, 03ish.

Routh was WB's guy up until last year.

The gameplan changed with DC Ent was formed, Robinov stepped into Horn's shoes, and Nolan was brought in. Robinov, Nelson and the other players at DC Ent have no connection to Routh. The top brass that wanted Routh as Superman are irrelevant nowadays.

It's essentially a different situation for the two of them.

He was "there guy" until his contract expired. If they had known what in the hell they were going to do with the franchise (sequel, reboot, etc.) then maybe Routh might have had a legitimate shot since he was already under contract. Routh was convenient.

Also, I am not a Routh hater by any means. In all honesty, I thought he did pretty well overall with what he had to work with. I just don't think Nolan will choose him seeing as he has ties to SR. It's the same reason I know Tom Welling won't get it despite how much I wish otherwise. You can't really compare Welling/Routh to Nicolas Cage in terms of reprising roles. No offense to Ghost Rider but...well, did any of you all see it? Look at both movie franchises. Ghost Rider the movie is not even close to being in the same league as the Superman franchise.

[KalMart]

He was "there guy" until his contract expired. If they had known what in the hell they were going to do with the franchise (sequel, reboot, etc.) then maybe Routh might have had a legitimate shot since he was already under contract. Routh was convenient.

Also, I am not a Routh hater by any means. In all honesty, I thought he did pretty well overall with what he had to work with. I just don't think Nolan will choose him seeing as he has ties to SR. It's the same reason I know Tom Welling won't get it despite how much I wish otherwise. You can't really compare Welling/Routh to Nicolas Cage in terms of reprising roles. No offense to Ghost Rider but...well, did any of you all see it? Look at both movie franchises. Ghost Rider the movie is not even close to being in the same league as the Superman franchise.
He was only under contract for a sequel though, right? I mean, if they reboot, or whatever one wants to call something that's not a sequel...then it's a completely new set of contracts et al, no?

[SrsBsns]

I really feel for Routh. the guy is a huge fan just like us, and he did whatever he could with the limited time he had on screen in Superman Returns.

WB are a real *******s.

Routh deserves better. He IS Superman. Its a damn shame if we don't see Routh again.

Reboot, remake ffs whatever you want to call it, I still say Routh should be top choice.

WB are a disgrace, they themselves were happy to spend big money on Singer's movie, and then when it didn't make a billion dollars they cried like *****es.

disgraceful.

WB is a joke when it comes to Superman. They don't deserve to have this property, they can't do anything properly with it.

Seriously? It would be one thing if the movie destroyed the box office, ala Inception, but it didn't even double it's own production cost! The WB and Snyder, as much as you want to deny it, are doing the right thing by trying to distance itself from any previous take. Why in the world would they make another sequel to the Donnerverse when it failed the first time?? :doh:

No logical person would drop that kind of money on such a risk...

[KaptainKrypton]

He was only under contract for a sequel though, right? I mean, if they reboot, or whatever one wants to call something that's not a sequel...then it's a completely new set of contracts et al, no?
It probably wouldn't have been a guaranteed deal, anyway. Seeing as he was coming in as a nobody he probably had zero leverage in the agreement and they had all the power, anyway.

[KaptainKrypton]

Seriously? It would be one thing if the movie destroyed the box office, ala Inception, but it didn't even double it's own production cost! The WB and Snyder, as much as you want to deny it, are doing the right thing by trying to distance itself from any previous take. Why in the world would they make another sequel to the Donnerverse when it failed the first time?? :doh:

No logical person would drop that kind of money on such a risk...
Well, it also didn't help that Singer went and pulled a crafty move like completing a $10 million Return to Krypton sequence that ended up on the cutting room floor. Singer would probably still have the director's spot if he would have been fiscally responsible like he was on the X-men films instead of them giving him the keys to the family sedan with no curfew, so to speak.

[sf2]

i don't see problem if brandon to play superman again in the reboot, revamp or whatever.

[KalMart]

Well, it also didn't help that Singer went and pulled a crafty move like completing a $10 million Return to Krypton sequence that ended up on the cutting room floor. Singer would probably still have the director's spot if he would have been fiscally responsible like he was on the X-men films instead of them giving him the keys to the family sedan with no curfew, so to speak.
Don't make too much of the alleged $10M cost of the cut scene. Scenes get cut all the time in movies, even big ones, and because of creative reasons, not price tag. The rest of the stuff that didn't make the final film, combined, could easily reach that amount...and in terms of percentage of overall budget, other movies can have have cut material which exceeds it. The cur RTK stuff only really matters to core fans who knew about it and wanted to see it.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Vote
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/10/08/vote-for-the-new-superman/

[Mostpowerful]

Tomorrow October 9 is Brandon's birthday. He'll be 31.

Happy Birthday to our AWESOME SUPERMAN! :supes:

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[Compi716]

The fact that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is in that list (because of reader suggestions, no less!) makes it completely ridiculous.

[GreenKToo]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt for Mxyplyzyk or Toyman ( he's about the same size as them).

[Project862006]

but did'nt Snyder already say NO

[C. Lee]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt for Mxyplyzyk or Toyman ( he's about the same size as them).

I always thought Mxyplyzyk was short and old.

[KaptainKrypton]

Don't make too much of the alleged $10M cost of the cut scene. Scenes get cut all the time in movies, even big ones, and because of creative reasons, not price tag. The rest of the stuff that didn't make the final film, combined, could easily reach that amount...and in terms of percentage of overall budget, other movies can have have cut material which exceeds it. The cur RTK stuff only really matters to core fans who knew about it and wanted to see it.
If I were a businessman, I'd make plenty of it. Not just the cost, but the time and manpower that had to be mobilized, only for it to end up being completely for naught in the end. I've not a single doubt that the other stuff nixed from the final cut cost them time and money as well. Unnecessary dialogue sequences and stuff like that being trimmed are commonplace in any movie. Not saying that the RTK sequence was this all-important thing, but how many employers do you know of that would be thrilled to know you pissed ten million down the commode because you didn't have the foresight during the scripting phase to realize a scene of that magnitude was just plain unnecessary? That's all I'm saying, I guess.

I'm willing to bet they chewed Singer a new one and yanked the choke chain on his leash so he threw a fit and took his ball and went home. I mean, that money could've at least helped to bolster the underwhelming finale sequence with Superman in the city. I liked the movie, but I'll be the first to admit that the plane sequence was the true finale...for me, at least. Anyways, sorry to ramble. I miss Routh...blah, blah, blah...:yay:

[KaptainKrypton]

Vote
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/10/08/vote-for-the-new-superman/
If it was Kingdom Come, I could see Hamm in the role in a heartbeat. Gordon-Levitt doesn't have the presence to fill the shoes and for as pretty as Bomer is, he's just shy of Ewok height. Welling won't touch the role with a two-meter cattle prod for some reason and as much as it irks me, I think the ship has sailed where Routh is concerned. I'm hoping for another unknown, because the last time the WB cycled through name actors the results were gag-worthy, at best (I'm looking at you Mr. Walker).

[KaptainKrypton]

I always thought Mxyplyzyk was short and old.
That's why my vote for Mxy would be Dustin Hoffman.

[sf2]

casting a new guy would get the public confused as the general public have accepted routh as the new superman after Reeve. news related to superman, the media will post pic of routh.

therefore, WB should stick with routh.

the disappointment of SR isn't because of him. so if the wheel isn't broken, why change it?

lastly, Happy Bday to Mr. Routh

[Octoberist]

He's the next George Lazenby, who played Bond only once and was (for the longest time) forgotten till the cult status of his Bond film "On Her Majesty's Royal Service".

This will only get worse IF this new Superman ends up being a hit and popular among fans and movie goers alike. And here's the saddest thing but it's kinda true: I don't think People talk about Superman Returns all too often. And because of that, if they replaced Routh, I don't think will notice or care. I'm talking about the public mind you. Time probably won't be too kind to it.

[sf2]

i understand that. i just don't think they should recast the role. and routh looks much much better and manly than previously.

but if they do, i wish the best for the new guy, hoping it is a great hit and popular. afterall, i'm a superman fan first.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

There isn't anything wrong with loving Routh in the role but it's just silly to believe that re-casting the role will confuse audiences more than keeping him on and making a completely different other Superman movie.

Unfortunately for him they are going a different direction and they have obviously realized that they can't fully go that direction with him onboard. It would be too confusing and the moviegoing public is confused enough as it is so it's dumb to confuse them anymore than you have to.

It's a wrong place at the wrong time situation for Routh. He played in a movie that made some money but was recieved in a meh fashion by atleast half of the audience and then the director started having problems with the studio after they signed him for a sequel. It's just one of those situation where things don't work out.

[Mostpowerful]

Those who love the movie WILL continue loving it and Brandon's take in it (and whether some like it or not, many people loved the movie, and especially Brandon's performance. The movie was a blockbuster for a reason). I don't see how that will change just because there will probably be a new franchise with a new guy in the tights. I still love Reeve's Superman and some of his movies.

That said, Bring Routh Back please! He Is Superman.

[The Englishman]

He's the next George Lazenby, who played Bond only once and was (for the longest time) forgotten till the cult status of his Bond film "On Her Majesty's Royal Service".

This will only get worse IF this new Superman ends up being a hit and popular among fans and movie goers alike. And here's the saddest thing but it's kinda true: I don't think People talk about Superman Returns all too often. And because of that, if they replaced Routh, I don't think will notice or care. I'm talking about the public mind you. Time probably won't be too kind to it.
Whats that movie then, i dont think ive seen that one??

[Gianakin_]

Whats that movie then, i dont think ive seen that one??

It's after You Only Live Twice. Connery left, Lazenby came, movie didn't do well, Lazenby got fired, Connery was begged to come back and was offered a lot of money. He came back and we got that abomination of a Bond movie, Diamonds are Forever.

[ChickenScratch]

He was being cheeky Giankin, he and I have had some pretty deep Bond conversations.

[mercureyx]

It really is too bad he won't get to be Superman again :(...

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1183/routhsuperman.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/i/routhsuperman.jpg/)

[Mostpowerful]

It really is too bad he won't get to be Superman again :(...

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1183/routhsuperman.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/i/routhsuperman.jpg/)

I know, especially now that he is bigger and looks more mature and has also grown as an actor. Such a shame. I'm sure he'd be spectacular if given another chance and meatier material to work with.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa166/vgerland/Brandon/Scott%20Pilgrim/BinSF2.jpg

[KalMart]

If I were a businessman, I'd make plenty of it. Not just the cost, but the time and manpower that had to be mobilized, only for it to end up being completely for naught in the end. I've not a single doubt that the other stuff nixed from the final cut cost them time and money as well. Unnecessary dialogue sequences and stuff like that being trimmed are commonplace in any movie. Not saying that the RTK sequence was this all-important thing, but how many employers do you know of that would be thrilled to know you pissed ten million down the commode because you didn't have the foresight during the scripting phase to realize a scene of that magnitude was just plain unnecessary? That's all I'm saying, I guess.
Again, in the grand scheme of things, it's really no different than any other movie that gets scenes cut whose costs in time and manpower can easily amount to 5% of the overall budget like the RTK stuff did. heck, if you look at the scenes that were cut out of Terminator 2 and Aliens, they were pretty substantial...and you didn't hear these kinds of gripes about those.

With SR, it just adds to the sting of the movie itself not turning out very good for a lot of folks.

And in terms of 'foresight', things can still change during editing that you really can't foresee until you start putting things together up on screen. It happens all the time, and really, we should credit Singer for at least having the artistic integrity to cut such an expensive scene for the sake of helping the overall movie viewing experience.

This is purely a fan issue (and quite frankly, a rather selfish one), not a movie/business one.

I'm willing to bet they chewed Singer a new one and yanked the choke chain on his leash so he threw a fit and took his ball and went home.
Maybe if they wree there during the whole editing session and told him to keep the scene no matter what. But chances are they weren't. So if it made it to screen, then it means that if they saw the final cut and 'approved' it already, it happened well before it even got to the box office....so they can blame themselves as much as anyone else for not 'stepping in' sooner.

And really....would an extra 15-minutes or so of slow, depressing but albeit visually striking time in the beginning of the film have made the difference between it being a disappointment, and a record-setting zeitgeist? Probably not. There were more problems with what DID make it to screen than what didn't. Pointing to the RTK sequence is just rubbing salt in the wound...when the wound itself is the real issue.

I mean, that money could've at least helped to bolster the underwhelming finale sequence with Superman in the city. I liked the movie, but I'll be the first to admit that the plane sequence was the true finale...for me, at least. Anyways, sorry to ramble. I miss Routh...blah, blah, blah...:yay:
Or they could have just written a more exciting story to begin with...instead of the one we got which, by the way, was also approved by the studio before it even got to shooting. But alas.

[KaptainKrypton]

TO MOSTPOWERFUL:^He was born to play the role, I think. He only looks more and more like it now that he's aged a bit more. It's a bummer-and-a-half that they won't give him the nod. I think it's a shame even though he's pretty much waiting on deck to sport the cape and is more about being Superman than the others who've been mentioned (mainly Hamm who couldn't come off any less indifferent if he tried). Also, I still think he did the role justice, even though he was given much less to work with script-wise than his predecessor.

[KaptainKrypton]

Again, in the grand scheme of things, it's really no different than any other movie that gets scenes cut whose costs in time and manpower can easily amount to 5% of the overall budget like the RTK stuff did. heck, if you look at the scenes that were cut out of Terminator 2 and Aliens, they were pretty substantial...and you didn't hear these kinds of gripes about those.

With SR, it just adds to the sting of the movie itself not turning out very good for a lot of folks.

And in terns of 'foresight', things can still change during editing that you really can't foresee until you start putting things together up on screen. It happens all eth time, and really, you shodul credit Singer for at least having the artistic integrity to cut such an expensive scene for the sake of helping the overall movie viewing experience.

This is a purely fan issue, not a movie/business one.


Maybe if they wree there during the whole editing session and told him to keep the scene no matter what. But chances are they weren't. So if it made it to screen, then it means that if they saw the final cut an 'approved' it already, it happened well before it even got to the box office....so they can blame themselves as much as anyone else for not 'stepping in' sooner.


Or they could have just written a more exciting story to begin with...instead of the one we got which, by the way, was also approved by the studio before it even got to shooting. But alas.
I hear you about the editing. The one thing I always figured, though, was that Warner saw Singer's track record with the X-films, and particularly working under Tom Rothman. My guess is that they figured Bryan would make a great movie for peanuts that would be a hit (basically an exec's wet dream). No doubt that the studio got final cut. That's generally the way of things. The cornfield flashback sequence was another time-waster that instantly comes to mind. It's such a bummer, but I just hope the new film can succeed where SR didn't. Mainly because, if Snyder drops the ball, it won't get picked up for a long time, methinks. I can't wait another 19 years between Superman movies. I'll lose what's left of my mind!

[KalMart]

I hear you about the editing. The one thing I always figured, though, was that Warner saw Singer's track record with the X-films, and particularly working under Tom Rothman. My guess is that they figured Bryan would make a great movie for peanuts that would be a hit (basically an exec's wet dream). No doubt that the studio got final cut. That's generally the way of things.
Singer said that he got final cut ,and that the studio put no pressure on his editing decisions. You can believe him or not. I do believe him, and I generally agree with his decision not to take up the extra time in the beginning with the RTK stuff, based on what did make it to screen. If it was actually an action scene, then it'd be another ball of wax. :O

The cornfield flashback sequence was another time-waster that instantly comes to mind. It's such a bummer, but I just hope the new film can succeed where SR didn't. Mainly because, if Snyder drops the ball, it won't get picked up for a long time, methinks. I can't wait another 19 years between Superman movies. I'll lose what's left of my mind!
Oh, I though Singer was a good choice in theory based on his XMen movies as well. I figured he'd do with Superman what he did with Xmen...put a fresh and unique spin on it, etc. But it's like he went backwards and undid what made him so good before, ultimately coming up with something rehashed and unoriginal...not to mention pretty boring. It was a bit of a shock, really.

As for WB, they probably figured that Singer's resume and just the brand name of Superman would be enough...especially after so many years of prior aborted developments.

[BH/HHH]

Its a bad shame that Routh probably won't be back. He looks so much like Superman now.

[KaptainKrypton]

Its a bad shame that Routh probably won't be back. He looks so much like Superman now.
I know. Moreso than any of the others who've been rumored for the role...by a mile.

[Wilde]

No question in my mind, Routh SHOULD continue to be Superman:

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/552/routhcopy.jpg

He really deserves it.

[sf2]

There isn't anything wrong with loving Routh in the role but it's just silly to believe that re-casting the role will confuse audiences more than keeping him on and making a completely different other Superman movie.

Unfortunately for him they are going a different direction and they have obviously realized that they can't fully go that direction with him onboard. It would be too confusing and the moviegoing public is confused enough as it is so it's dumb to confuse them anymore than you have to.

It's a wrong place at the wrong time situation for Routh. He played in a movie that made some money but was recieved in a meh fashion by atleast half of the audience and then the director started having problems with the studio after they signed him for a sequel. It's just one of those situation where things don't work out.

what to confuse about? it's been 6 years. the general public mostly couldn't recall what SR about. but they might still know that routh is the new superman after reeve. furthermore, most media use routh images for any superman news.

so i still stand with my point; give routh the audition chance.

[Gianakin_]

He was being cheeky Giankin, he and I have had some pretty deep Bond conversations.

Whoops! Sorry about that, then.

[daywalker2007]

on the one hand people say SR was a forgettable film which made no impression on people.

by that view, then that means most people will not remember Routh being in SR.

Therefore that nullifies the argument that because Routh was in SR, that he shouldn't be Superman in the new film.

When audiences go to see the new Superman movie, Routh with his new look and style should br perfectly accepted by audiences.

It will have been more than 6 years since SR.

Lets go WB, give Routh the cape and lets get it on now please.

Don't mess us about.

[BH/HHH]

No question in my mind, Routh SHOULD continue to be Superman:

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/552/routhcopy.jpg

He really deserves it.

On another note thats what the suit should have looked like aswell if anything just to keep better continuity with the Donner films :up:

on the one hand people say SR was a forgettable film which made no impression on people.

by that view, then that means most people will not remember Routh being in SR.

Therefore that nullifies the argument that because Routh was in SR, that he shouldn't be Superman in the new film.

When audiences go to see the new Superman movie, Routh with his new look and style should br perfectly accepted by audiences.

It will have been more than 6 years since SR.

Lets go WB, give Routh the cape and lets get it on now please.

Don't mess us about.

I agree with that, and its true that I dont think that many people will notice that its the same guy from Superman Returns. Although equally you will also get people not knowing that it isn't a sequel, it happens unfortunately.

[Timstuff]

on the one hand people say SR was a forgettable film which made no impression on people.

by that view, then that means most people will not remember Routh being in SR.

Therefore that nullifies the argument that because Routh was in SR, that he shouldn't be Superman in the new film.

When audiences go to see the new Superman movie, Routh with his new look and style should br perfectly accepted by audiences.

It will have been more than 6 years since SR.

Lets go WB, give Routh the cape and lets get it on now please.

Don't mess us about.

This argument is silly. If they make ANOTHER movie with Routh, people will believe it's Superman 6, because Routh will be there to remind us all of the last Superman film. If they make a movie with no connections with a previous Superman film at all thoguh, then Superman Returns will become a footnote in the Superman franchise, the same way George Lazenby was for James Bond. Maybe people would remember Lazenby played Bond if he'd been in more than one film, but he wasn't, and thus was pretty much forgotten by the general public.

The same will happen with Routh-- if he comes back as Superman, people will see the movie as being tied to SR and it will create brand identity confusion, just like if it was Tom Welling. If they go in a new direction with the casting though (which they should and will), then people will forget about Routh because he's only been in one forgettable Superman movie. What about this is so difficult to understand?

[Mostpowerful]

I think it's funny that it's the haters who say SR is a forgettable film.. like if there were so many Superman films to choose from. lol

Like I said, a lot of people loved the film, the film got mostly good reviews when it came out and made some $$. Do you want to talk forgettable? Daredevil, FF4 films, Electra, Batman and Robin, etc; those are forgettable films. SR was a sequel to the Reeve movies, which are considered the most popular version on Superman in the world.

[Gianakin_]

I don't think people will ever forget B&R.

[Timstuff]

Batman & Robin is like a big scar on the Batman franchise. It's not like you can easily forget such a horrible film. I'm sure George Clooney would love for us all to forget about it, though...

[LadyVader]

I wish people would stop making comments like: "Oh, poor Brandon Routh... he's in that one forgettable Superman movie"

Poor my ass. For an entire year he had the most awesome job in the world. He got paid, he got the recognition, and he got a lot of people liking him. He's had more good fortune than anybody on this board and I don't feel sorry for him one bit. Let's keep things in perspective.

He got to be Superman, he had his shot. Was it a perfect movie? No, But I liked it and Routh is proud of the work he did on it. Hollywood doesn't owe him a second chance at the Superman suit or anything.

[Eze]

I wish people would stop making comments like: "Oh, poor Brandon Routh... he's in that one forgettable Superman movie"

Poor my ass. For an entire year he had the most awesome job in the world. He got paid, he got the recognition, and he got a lot of people liking him. He's had more good fortune than anybody on this board and I don't feel sorry for him one bit. Let's keep things in perspective.

He got to be Superman, he had his shot. Was it a perfect movie? No, But I liked it and Routh is proud of the work he did on it. Hollywood doesn't owe him a second chance at the Superman suit or anything.

Couldn't agree more, well except liking SR...but ya he had his shot, time to move on.

[Timstuff]

The other weird thing I find, is that whenever people want to hype up Routh's qualifications for playing Superman with the roles he's done, they never point to his performance as the character in Superman Returns. Why is that? Is it that in order to accept him returning as Superman, we have to be sold on the notion that he'd play Superman differently now than when he was in SR? If you don't even a repeat of Routh's Superman from SR, then why want him back so badly in the first place? :huh:

[Lighthouse]

I don't think Superman Returns was a forgettable film, but I think the transition to the new film will go over a lot smoother then people think. Anyone who is confused will get over it in about 30 seconds, and even if the general public liked Routh as Superman, it doesn't mean they'll be angry or won't accept a new one.

[al35077]

Didn't the director say no Routh anyway?

[nintendo nerd]

The other weird thing I find, is that whenever people want to hype up Routh's qualifications for playing Superman with the roles he's done, they never point to his performance as the character in Superman Returns. Why is that? Is it that in order to accept him returning as Superman, we have to be sold on the notion that he'd play Superman differently now than when he was in SR? If you don't even a repeat of Routh's Superman from SR, then why want him back so badly in the first place? :huh:

Go troll somewhere else. Cavill Fanboy.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I wish people would stop making comments like: "Oh, poor Brandon Routh... he's in that one forgettable Superman movie"

Poor my ass. For an entire year he had the most awesome job in the world. He got paid, he got the recognition, and he got a lot of people liking him. He's had more good fortune than anybody on this board and I don't feel sorry for him one bit. Let's keep things in perspective.

He got to be Superman, he had his shot. Was it a perfect movie? No, But I liked it and Routh is proud of the work he did on it. Hollywood doesn't owe him a second chance at the Superman suit or anything.

This. :up:

[KaptainKrypton]

The other weird thing I find, is that whenever people want to hype up Routh's qualifications for playing Superman with the roles he's done, they never point to his performance as the character in Superman Returns. Why is that? Is it that in order to accept him returning as Superman, we have to be sold on the notion that he'd play Superman differently now than when he was in SR? If you don't even a repeat of Routh's Superman from SR, then why want him back so badly in the first place? :huh:
Perhaps because the writing in said movie didn't give him more than a blip's worth of actual dialogue to properly gauge his performance on? This is one of the main complaints I've heard from the SR haters since day one. So which is it? Singer, Harris and Dougherty's fault for writing a bad role or Routh for playing it as asked? It's like saying George Clooney is a worthless actor because he starred in the worst Batman ever made and that he couldn't have made a better impression in a better rendition of a Bat-film. I personally found Routh to be one of the film's bright spots and also feel he did a lot with a little.

Most of the reason half of us who are pro-Routh speak our piece in this thread is because we don't feel any of the rumored contenders for the role are anything to write home about, by comparison. If the new Superman isn't Routh (probably), and is great, I'll be the first to sing his praises. If it ends up that we feel he's subpar, you can bet you'll probably read all about it on here in another thread kind of like this one.

[Superark]

The other weird thing I find, is that whenever people want to hype up Routh's qualifications for playing Superman with the roles he's done, they never point to his performance as the character in Superman Returns. Why is that? Is it that in order to accept him returning as Superman, we have to be sold on the notion that he'd play Superman differently now than when he was in SR? If you don't even a repeat of Routh's Superman from SR, then why want him back so badly in the first place? :huh:


Seriously, you came here to troll and say that? Do you not pay attention to the moderators?

I don't like Cavill or Welling for the roles but ya know what? I stay out of those threads for those actors. I don't feel the need to go in there and downgrade their choice in a thread designed specifically by their supporters. I let the people who enjoy them and like to discuss them do so. You should probably do the same.

I for one am a huge Routh fan and loved his performance in SR. He's #1 pick for the role. But, he's not coming back and I've pretty much known that for awhile now and have accepted it.

But if his fans still want to come and here and say "He is Superman" and how much they lover him, that's cool. Let them do that.

So in all due respect, go have fun discussing your boy Cavill in his thread. "Good day Sir!"

[I Am The Knight]

Seriously, you came here to troll and say that? Do you not pay attention to the moderators?

I don't like Cavill or Welling for the roles but ya know what? I stay out of those threads for those actors. I don't feel the need to go in there and downgrade their choice in a thread designed specifically by their supporters. I let the people who enjoy them and like to discuss them do so. You should probably do the same.

I for one am a huge Routh fan and loved his performance in SR. He's #1 pick for the role. But, he's not coming back and I've pretty much known that for awhile now and have accepted it.

But if his fans still want to come and here and say "He is Superman" and how much they lover him, that's cool. Let them do that.

So in all due respect, go have fun discussing your boy Cavill in his thread. "Good day Sir!"

Agreed! :yay:

[Timstuff]

Go troll somewhere else. Cavill Fanboy.

How am I Cavill-trolling if I didn't mention anyone but Routh? :huh:

[sf2]

Didn't the director say no Routh anyway?

did he? when?

we should move on if he did.

[SatEL]

did he? when?

we should move on if he did.


Yes we should all move on as awesome as Superman Returns was, you guys should just let the Routh thing go. Lets all unite and support the new Superman whoever it may be. :yay:

[Antonello Blueberry]

did he? when?

we should move on if he did.
In the latest interview (yesterday) asked about casting Snyder's wife said it's to ealry to say. But he clearly implied it's a reboot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4h0O6wy8kw

[BH/HHH]

I'd say by what he said "it has nothing to do with the other movies" that means Routh is definitely out.

[treeringralph]

And don't forget, he also reiterated that he's "Super-excited." Maybe Zack Snyder will play Superman!

Look, the guy is far from well-spoken, and combing over his impromptu comments at an opening for another movie seems pointless to me.

Nolan chooses his words very carefully, and says what he means to say...can't say the same for Snyder (I mean, his wife essentially slapped his wrist before he could say any more).

Forgive me, but I'm going to more closely consider what Nolan has said in more official settings like his previous printed interviews on the matter.

[SuperDaniel]

Its obviously that Routh WILL NOT come back! This isn`t dreaming, folks, its already bordering on lunacy...

[Timstuff]

Honestly, I'm surprised this thread hasn't already been moved to the Superman Returns board where it belongs. It's pretty obvious that Routh is not being considered since they didn't renew his contract and that this is a reboot with no connection to Returns. If the situation for some reason changes and Routh is back in the running then it would be appropriate to move this thread back to the Man of Steel board, but at the moment Routh's thread doesn't really have any more place here than Tom Welling's.

[SatEL]

Honestly, I'm surprised this thread hasn't already been moved to the Superman Returns board where it belongs. It's pretty obvious that Routh is not being considered since they didn't renew his contract and that this is a reboot with no connection to Returns. If the situation for some reason changes and Routh is back in the running then it would be appropriate to move this thread back to the Man of Steel board, but at the moment Routh's thread doesn't really have any more place here than Tom Welling's.


Well said a mod should rightfully move this thread to the SR section where it belongs.

[Showtime]

How about SupderDaniel and TimStuff stay out of this thread or I can give you both some time off. The moderators will move the thread when it is ready to move.

This isn't going to be a repeat of last time around with Superman Returns...for any of the "parties" involved.

[SuperDaniel]

Well, Showtime, its pretty clear as Snyder himself stated that Routh won`t come back. As much as I love Routh, this is pointless. You should do your job and move this thread to the SR forum. If by some miracle he gets cast, then you can move it back here.

I loved Routh as Superman but its pretty official he WON`T back.

[manofsteel4life]

Well, Showtime, its pretty clear as Snyder himself stated that Routh won`t come back. As much as I love Routh, this is pointless. You should do your job and move this thread to the SR forum. If by some miracle he gets cast, then you can move it back here.

I loved Routh as Superman but its pretty official he WON`T back.

pretty official...is not official

[LL2K2]

^Same with "not likely" not being the same as "he's officially out." So this thread should stay open until an official announcement is made.

[al35077]

Wow you guys are really grasping at straws. But I can respect that because I'm probably doing the same thing with my favorite choice too.

[GreenKToo]

I don't see the need of coming into a thread and bashing a guy that you don't support. That's just me tho.

[Mostpowerful]

^^yeah, I really don't get why some people get so upset that this thread still exists..

I guess some people just don't like to see that some of us love him in the role and still want him to continue playing it in the next Superman movie.

I say let the mods decide what to do since they know more of what's going on behind doors I suppose.

[BH/HHH]

^^yeah, I really don't get why some people get so upset that this thread still exists..

I guess some people just don't like to see that some of us love him in the role and still want him to continue playing it in the next Superman movie.

I say let the mods decide what to do since they know more of what's going on behind doors I suppose.

:up: great post

[Timstuff]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro

[al35077]

The only problem I have with Routh's thread still being here is that if the forum for him gets to stay then a certain TV show actor should be able to have one here as well.

[Red Cherry Lips]

^Same with "not likely" not being the same as "he's officially out." So this thread should stay open until an official announcement is made.

I respect why this thread still exists here despite the inevitable. As the old saying goes "It ain't over until the fat lady sings."

[Red Cherry Lips]

The only problem I have with Routh's thread still being here is that if the forum for him gets to stay then a certain TV show actor should be able to have one here as well.

If you'd like to support "a certain TV show actor" that I think you're thinking of, his thread is here. (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=145005) :yay:

[Maze]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro

Awesome! :wow: :up:

Thanks Timstuff :) ;)

[SatEL]

I respect why this thread still exists here despite the inevitable. As the old saying goes "It ain't over until the fat lady sings."


Well I would say she hummed a few notes when it was announced this is a reboot. Only a matter of time anyway Routh fans cant deny the inevitable, just hope the "I wont watch the new movie if Routh isn’t in it" crowd take their nonsense elsewhere once the new Supes is finally announced. Peace and love guys peace and love, Superman would have it no other way.:yay:

[Mostpowerful]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro


Awesome. Thanks. It only makes me wish for a sequel even more, but I Routhboot would have been great too. :csad:

[Red Cherry Lips]

Well I would say she hummed a few notes when it was announced this is a reboot.

Echoes that thought. ;)

Only a matter of time anyway Routh fans cant deny the inevitable, just hope the "I wont watch the new movie if Routh isn’t in it" crowd take their nonsense elsewhere once the new Supes is finally announced.

There's a few out there that have a deep attachment and loyalty to him playing Superman. And have every right to chime in there support for him (in the appropriate sections and threads as far as forums go), and the choice to choose not to see any other actor in the role.

They are not representative of the general audience, imo and I therefore not worry about that. However, I do understand the initial annoyance at that kind of attitude.

Peace and love guys peace and love, Superman would have it no other way.:yay:

Yep. Hope we get a great film period. That's what GA's are craving for, I feel. Great solid films, stories, acting, etc. from beginning to end.

And I wish Brandon Routh well and am glad he was the MOS in SR. My first memory of 2006 will forever be SR, Bryan Singer, and Brandon Routh. Good times. :)

[SuperDaniel]

pretty official...is not official
I'd say "Variety" is pretty official... Snyder told them he won't come back!

[al35077]

If you'd like to support "a certain TV show actor" that I think you're thinking of, his thread is here. (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=145005) :yay:

I meant We aren't allowed to mention him in the superman section.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I'd say "Variety" is pretty official... Snyder told them he won't come back!

In my book that's official enough for me. However I think the "official, official" for some peeps will be when the announcement of the actor playing Superman in this reboot. It will be the last nail in the coffin of "official" and will not be disputed.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I meant We aren't allowed to mention him in the superman section.

Maybe its because there are quite a few threads on him to talk about him being Superman in the SV section (TW thread, TW manips as Supes thread, etc.). You could ask the mods to clarify that thru a PM perhaps. That's my understanding.

Sorry about misunderstanding your post, al.

[al35077]

No problem. I get misunderstood alot lol

[GreenKToo]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro
Oooh man. Thats the kinda action I really hope we get.

[Lone]

I meant We aren't allowed to mention him in the superman section.

Is having a whole section dedicated to him not enough?:huh:

[SatEL]

Is having a whole section dedicated to him not enough?:huh:

Brandon the Oscar calibre Routh also has his own section, in case you were unaware it's underneath this one. This has been announced as a reboot, so Welling is no more a stranger in these parts than Routh. Peace and love people peace and love, that’s what Superman would want.

[SatEL]

Echoes that thought. ;)



There's a few out there that have a deep attachment and loyalty to him playing Superman. And have every right to chime in there support for him (in the appropriate sections and threads as far as forums go), and the choice to choose not to see any other actor in the role.

They are not representative of the general audience, imo and I therefore not worry about that. However, I do understand the initial annoyance at that kind of attitude.





Oh trust me I know what with only 10 Routh fans in existence I doubt they would have an impact on the Box office numbers. Oh my relax people I kid I know there are really 20 of you Routh lovers.........lol oh my another joke sorry guys just don’t know what’s gotten into me. Anyway I couldn’t care less if they came through on their threats (they probably wont and will be seeing it opening day like all of us) the only thing is if they hang around like a bad odour to cause trouble. Either way I am all for peace and love people peace and love it's what Superman would want.:yay:

[Superark]

Oh trust me I know what with only 10 Routh fans in existence I doubt they would have an impact on the Box office numbers. Oh my relax people I kid I know there are really 20 of you Routh lovers.........lol oh my another joke sorry guys just don’t know what’s gotten into me. Anyway I couldn’t care less if they came through on their threats (they probably wont and will be seeing it opening day like all of us) the only thing is if they hang around like a bad odour to cause trouble. Either way I am all for peace and love people peace and love it's what Superman would want.:yay:

Can we thrown down the temporary ban hammer please after this comment? Just another troll job.

I don't know why people waste so much of their time and energy about things they hate. Makes no sense

[manofsteel4life]

I'd say "Variety" is pretty official... Snyder told them he won't come back!

And Synder really sticks to his word right?....:whatever:

[manofsteel4life]

Brandon the Oscar calibre Routh also has his own section, in case you were unaware it's underneath this one. This has been announced as a reboot, so Welling is no more a stranger in these parts than Routh. Peace and love people peace and love, that’s what Superman would want.


i just dont understand if you have such a problem with it, then dont comment on this thread:huh:......when things get OFFICIALLY announced then you can complain if its still here......damn

[Mostpowerful]

yeah.. we don't need that type of 'peace and love' here.. so go spread it somewhere else please.

[SatEL]

Can we thrown down the temporary ban hammer please after this comment? Just another troll job.

I don't know why people waste so much of their time and energy about things they hate. Makes no sense

Thank the good lord you are not a mod and praying you will never be one,
that post hardly warrants a ban. It was a joke and I stated so in the post despite your initial lack of comprehension. It would have been different if you said it wasn’t funny.:yay:

i just dont understand if you have such a problem with it, then dont comment on this thread:huh:......when things get OFFICIALLY announced then you can complain if its still here......damn

I don’t have a problem with anything but bias, I don’t really care where the Welling fans or Routh fans house their threads but many posters have a point when they say Routh thread doesn’t belong here anymore. This is the untitled Superman film section not the Superman Returns or Superman returns sequel section. Either way I am not a mod and I believe a mod has already shed light on the potential movements of this thread in the near future so I will leave it at that.:yay:

yeah.. we don't need that type of 'peace and love' here.. so go spread it somewhere else please.

Sorry my dear I was merely trying to be friendly alas my extended hand of friendship has been slapped away. I will leave and hope to meet you in a thread supporting the new Superman where we can all be friends. Until that day a void is left in my heart reserved for the Routh lovers. Peace and love my dear peace and love.:yay:

[BH/HHH]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro

Wow that was awesome

[C. Lee]

Oh trust me I know what with only 10 Routh fans in existence I doubt they would have an impact on the Box office numbers. Oh my relax people I kid I know there are really 20 of you Routh lovers.........lol oh my another joke sorry guys just don’t know what’s gotten into me. Anyway I couldn’t care less if they came through on their threats (they probably wont and will be seeing it opening day like all of us) the only thing is if they hang around like a bad odour to cause trouble. Either way I am all for peace and love people peace and love it's what Superman would want.:yay:

2 weeks probation.


PEOPLE...ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION? THE TROLLING BY EVERYONE WILL STOP....NOW.

[Incrediblejeff]

I'm conflicted on Routh.I liked him on Chuck and I Loved him in Scott Pilgrim.I just did'nt really care for him in Returns.With that said I would had loved to see him get another shot.

[true316]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro

One of the best fan-made videos I've seen! Thanks for sharing! :up:

[Man of Tomorrow]

So.. I spent a week in the "phantom zone" for posting a video with swearing, and a select few attempt to hijack this thread. Crazy.

IMO, until we get an official announcement regarding who is playing Superman, this thread belongs here. If Scott Pilgrim was any indication, there is bound to be TONS of Superman-related questions to and about Brandon Routh by the media regarding Snyderman... logically, they should be posted here.

So, lets get things back on track, shall we?

The Routh question was asked to Snyder again, face to face here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L302K1gDcQ

(I promise, no swearing). :p

[Man of Tomorrow]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro

That is brilliant.

Looking forward to the continuation.

[B]

Consider this a peace offering to the Routh supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Fa_bVCro

Awesome editing job :up:

The one shot that made me chuckle was the shot in which 'Doomsday' was choking Superman with the chains, made me chuckle for the simple fact that he let out a wierd cry. :D

If they ever did do Doomsday in a film I'd be torn between having a fully CGI character like Hulk & having a large actor in a suit, largely because there should be alot of interaction with a live action Superman & I know in TIH when Hulk was standing opposite Blonsky(?) it made it look kinda.. well fake. He looked ok fighting another CGI character, but when hes in direct contact with a live action actor it looks bizzare.

We didn't actually see too much of Doomsday in full flow on Smallville, but in the shots with the lighting/filters all taking effect I thought the suit looked pretty sweet.. and that was on a TV budget.

If you had a blockbuster budget going into the creation of a suit it should look 10x better & even more imposing than the Smallville one. You could obviously use CGI for some of the more elaborate fighting maneuvers, however the shots in close range of a struggling Superman & a snarling Doomsday would look so much better and realistic.

[LL2K2]

So.. I spent a week in the "phantom zone" for posting a video with swearing, and a select few attempt to hijack this thread. Crazy.

IMO, until we get an official announcement regarding who is playing Superman, this thread belongs here. If Scott Pilgrim was any indication, there is bound to be TONS of Superman-related questions to and about Brandon Routh by the media regarding Snyderman... logically, they should be posted here.

So, lets get things back on track, shall we?

The Routh question was asked to Snyder again, face to face here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L302K1gDcQ

(I promise, no swearing). :p

Welcome back. :) As for the video, best verbal response so far (and it was from his significant other, no less): "It's too early to be thinking about it."

[Mostpowerful]

Check this out Brandon fans!!

Could Brandon return to Superman?

http://brandonrouthcom.blogspot.com/2010/10/could-brandon-return-to-superman.html


YES, please, Bring Routh Back! He makes an awesome Superman, imo.

[Dark_Lord]

Check this out Brandon fans!!

Could Brandon return to Superman?

http://brandonrouthcom.blogspot.com/2010/10/could-brandon-return-to-superman.html


YES, please, Bring Routh Back! He makes an awesome Superman, imo.

Please don't get my hopes up :csad:

[Maze]

:woot::up:

Let's not get our hopes up yes, but, in casee he is back :woot:

[Mostpowerful]

Please don't get my hopes up :csad:

Oh I know exactly how you feel.. but it aint over until it's over, so we should at least continue with out support in every way we can please.

Brandon is just so perfect for this role in every way, imo, and he is also a fan and likes being Superman. Hope they give him another chance. Just give him a good script with lots of action and he'll deliver, no doubt in my mind.

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3037/gotmilklargev2.jpg

[Ita-KalEl]

The fans loved Routh. I would like to see him again with a red cape.

[Maze]

Problem Harry Knolwes has lost it since some times, and as he say himself, Tull could have said to Routh to be in shape, if they decide to use him again..

[Man of Tomorrow]

Maybe Thomas Tull wants Routh to be in shape for a different role? Haha.

[shieldshero]

Didn't Snyder just say that Routh returning "is unlikely"? I mean it's not a def no, so maybe he's not 100% gone. . .

[shieldshero]

Double post. . .

[Man of Tomorrow]

AICN said Routh's fate is in Snyder's hands.

Snyder said Routh is unlikely.


I personally don't think Zack wants him back.

[Showtime]

Well, Showtime, its pretty clear as Snyder himself stated that Routh won`t come back. As much as I love Routh, this is pointless. You should do your job and move this thread to the SR forum. If by some miracle he gets cast, then you can move it back here.

I loved Routh as Superman but its pretty official he WON`T back.

Well, SuperDaniel, how about C. Lee and I decide when the thread gets moved. So I should leave the thread here, and then I'll move it when C. Lee and I decide it's time to move it.

Meanwhile, you can do your job, which is continuing to be a poster that doesn't have a say on what thread goes where.

[Man of Tomorrow]

:woot::up:

Let's not get our hopes up yes, but, in casee he is back :woot:


He still easily has the best look for Superman among all the known actors, Superman doesn't wear a mask so the look is key.

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2009/02/05/previews/Brandon%20Routh-ALO-056635.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs218.snc4/39245_10150210961825262_10150131491105262_13621423 _7191206_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs163.snc4/37511_10150209248335262_10150131491105262_13560010 _2873068_n.jpg

[J.Howlett]

That dude is so Superman. Sigh...

[herolee10]

well, I'd personally want Routh to be given his chance. I mean it's not his fault that he was stuck with such a bad script, hell I still believe that the biggest reason why SR made as much as it did, wasn't because of the appeal of the film, but because of what Routh brought to his limited role as Superman.

Imagine what he'd be able to do if he could flesh out Clark.

Plus, it's very hard these days to find an actor who:

1. Knows about the comics in regards to Superman's mythology

2. Has a sincere respect for the character

3. Carries himself well in is personal life from what we've seen and heard

4. Looks and sounds the part

5. Right Height.


I mean hell, if studios are going for having Reynolds and Evans play multiple comic book characters, then why not take it a step further by reusing the same actor from a film that ppl wouldn't remember as much?

I mean, plus Smallville is already using the SR costume and trying to establish it as it's own for their own fictional universe.

[Gianakin_]

He is, isn't he? I loved him in Chuck.

[LadyVader]

His performance in Chuck cemented my opinion of his ability as an actor. Meaning he really isn't that good of an actor. There was virtually no difference between good Shaw and evil Shaw, until maybe the season 3 finale when he and Chuck went at it in the Buy More. Oh, and here's Routh in the Chuck gag reel. Watch the first 10 seconds of it and maybe you'll see what I'm talking about. :)

QSpSunT_KOg


But Brandon Routh is still a very handsome fellow, with a nice personality to boot. He wouldn't be the first guy nor the last in Hollywood to turn those qualities into a very successful acting career.

I'd personally want Routh to be given his chance.
Once again, he already had his shot.

[Man of Tomorrow]

He wasn't really evil Shaw till the S3 finale..

I don't think he was full-on evil here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5o2mD96wEI

[LadyVader]

Didn't he go rogue around episode 12 or 13 or something?

[Man of Tomorrow]

He wasn't full-on evil then though. He was more conflicted.

In the finale he played Shaw as a complete cocky jerk who embraced being a dick.

He killed Scott Bakula with no remorse and came off almost sadistic. The show never really explained why.


I still don't understand the character shift. He seemed genuinely in love with his dead wife:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu3QtjQkfAY&feature=related

But he was a Ring agent the whole time?

[sf2]

His performance in Chuck cemented my opinion of his ability as an actor. Meaning he really isn't that good of an actor. There was virtually no difference between good Shaw and evil Shaw, until maybe the season 3 finale when he and Chuck went at it in the Buy More. Oh, and here's Routh in the Chuck gag reel. Watch the first 10 seconds of it and maybe you'll see what I'm talking about. :)

QSpSunT_KOg


But Brandon Routh is still a very handsome fellow, with a nice personality to boot. He wouldn't be the first guy nor the last in Hollywood to turn those qualities into a very successful acting career.


Once again, he already had his shot.

Maybe he doesn't have to act for the role. he is just ,,, naturally fit to the role!!! seriously since the casting war back to 1998; nicolas cage's time, brandon is still the best till now. (though he still can't match to reeve)

but BBB!!!

or u better give me equelly or better guy!

[Mostpowerful]

I loved Brandon on Chuck. He played the straight guy. He gave a very nuanced, subtle and deadpanish performance. But there was always a dark edge to his character. And the music emphasized it.

Link to Shaw/Ring theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llU8vXOyE3o&feature=player_embedded

I liked the shifts in his character throughout the season. First he was this cold, very professional and controversial spy in the the first episodes obsessed with destroying the Ring for the death of his wife mainly, lol. Then he fell a little bit for Sarah and tried to start a new life with her until he learned that the woman he was involved with was the killer of his wife. And worse, the order was given by the same institution he was working for: the CIA.

He then turned. He was still conflicted on it, which was clearly shown in the Other Guy episode (superb ep, btw). Then Chuck killed him, but he was revived by the Ring. And he returned completely evil and on revenge mode. He had nothing to lose anymore and he didn't care. He just wanted to punish all of those who stood in his way. Like the showrunners said, he was the Two Face of the Chuck universe. He was always going to become Chuck's arch nemesis. The writing wasn't always great, but it worked overall for me. He is simply the best and more realistic villain that show's ever had, imo.

Nice Daniel Shaw vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU67GIw2khY


Brandon also got good reviews for his short role in Zach and Miri, and got really great reviews for his role in Scott Pilgrim. He played evil, badass and hilarious at the same time. He was awesome.:yay:

[manofsteel4life]

I loved Brandon on Chuck. He played the straight guy. He gave a very nuanced, subtle and deadpanish performance. But there was always a dark edge to his character. And the music emphasized it.

Link to Shaw/Ring theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llU8vXOyE3o&feature=player_embedded

I liked the shifts in his character throughout the season. First he was this cold, very professional and controversial spy in the the first episodes obsessed with destroying the Ring for the death of his wife mainly, lol. Then he fell a little bit for Sarah and tried to start a new life with her until he learned that the woman he was involved with was the killer of his wife. And worse, the order was given by the same institution he was working for: the CIA.

He then turned. He was still conflicted on it, which was clearly shown in the Other Guy episode (superb ep, btw). Then Chuck killed him, but he was revived by the Ring. And he returned completely evil and on revenge mode. He had nothing to lose anymore and he didn't care. He just wanted to punish all of those who stood in his way. Like the showrunners said, he was the Two Face of the Chuck universe. He was always going to become Chuck's arch nemesis. The writing wasn't always great, but it worked overall for me. He is simply the best and more realistic villain that show's ever had, imo.

Nice Daniel Shaw vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU67GIw2khY


Brandon also got good reviews for his short role in Zach and Miri, and got really great reviews for his role in Scott Pilgrim. He played evil, badass and hilarious at the same time. He was awesome.:yay:
im just now catching up in chuck......isnt it funny how that show has superman potentials and superman castings in it lol

[treeringralph]

Let's hope this is to be believed:
http://**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=23932

Why? Because if Hamm signs to play a Superman knockoff in Superior, he probably won't also be playing the real deal.

...making way for the real Superma -- I mean, Brandon Routh to continue on in the role.

[Cousin Itt]

I can smell the BS from here.

That's not true.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Yeah, I can't take CBM seriously. I'll believe it if something like that is announced in Variety or a credible entertainment source similar to it.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Hamm isn't a concern.

The film is about Superman in his early days. No way Hamm can pull that off.

[I Am The Knight]

^^Yeah. Hopefully the Superhamm pleas will stop now.

[XxDelta09xX]

Check this out Brandon fans!!

Could Brandon return to Superman?

http://brandonrouthcom.blogspot.com/2010/10/could-brandon-return-to-superman.html


YES, please, Bring Routh Back! He makes an awesome Superman, imo.

This would be Awesome but if he doesn't get the role I hope Hamm does.:woot:

[Antonello Blueberry]

Let's hope this is to be believed:
http://**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=23932

Why? Because if Hamm signs to play a Superman knockoff in Superior, he probably won't also be playing the real deal.

...making way for the real Superma -- I mean, Brandon Routh to continue on in the role.
If Millar was to be believed, we should have seen a Wanted movie with Eminem and Halle Berry and a Superman trilogy written by him and directed by Vaughn.

[sf2]

sadly we gotta face the fact. without WB backing, i think 99% Zack won't bring Brandon back.

and he only got supporting roles after SR. he will gonna fade from the industry. the superman curse.

[FilmNerdJamie]

If Millar was to be believed, we should have seen a Wanted movie with Eminem and Halle Berry and a Superman trilogy written by him and directed by Vaughn.

His BS spreading is so well-known and documented that I frankly think of any movie-news writer covering his latest claim as a moron.

It's not even worth mentioning in the context of "Look at how full of **** he is this time." We're past that. Just don't give the idiot the time of day.

[Mostpowerful]

im just now catching up in chuck......isnt it funny how that show has superman potentials and superman castings in it lol

yeah, I know! Chuck's sister looks like Wonder Woman, Captain Awesome looks like a superhero, Adam Baldwin voiced Supes in an animated movie and could make a decent Batman, imo, Matt Bomer (Bryce) was almost going to play Superman, Yvonne (Sarah) could easily play another female hero like Black Canary, Levi (Chuck) could also play another Superhero like Flash or the like, and Brandon.. he is Superman. :word: :woot:

Nice that you're watching the show, btw. The first 3 season are great, the current one (fourth season) not so much so far. :csad:

[manofsteel4life]

yeah, I know! Chuck's sister looks like Wonder Woman, Captain Awesome looks like a superhero, Adam Baldwin voiced Supes in an animated movie and could make a decent Batman, imo, Matt Bomer (Bryce) was almost going to play Superman, Yvonne (Sarah) could easily play another female hero like Black Canary, Levi (Chuck) could also play another Superhero like Flash or the like, and Brandon.. he is Superman. :word: :woot:

Nice that you're watching the show, btw. The first 3 season are great, the current one (fourth season) not so much so far. :csad:
really? its not?.....well i guess ill have to let me excitement go down..:csad:
yea i always thought that chucks sister(sara lancaster) could play wonder woman, or lois. All though she does seem rather tall to play lois i suppose. If i didnt know BR, i would definetly pick Ryan Mcpartlin to play supes. His looks and voice is awesome..http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif....and hes hilarous...lol

[Man of Tomorrow]

McPartlin tried out for Superman Returns and got rejected. Interesting tidbit.

[manofsteel4life]

McPartlin tried out for Superman Returns and got rejected. Interesting tidbit.

yea i know.....thats why i said how i realized how many superman potientials and castings and almost castings that are on chuck

[Man of Tomorrow]

Adam Baldwin could be a great Hawkman. Bomer looks like Hal Jordan. Lancaster could be Wonder Woman indeed. McPartlin as Aquaman. Levi as Flash. Yvonne as Black Canary.


JLA right there.

[manofsteel4life]

Adam Baldwin could be a great Hawkman. Bomer looks like Hal Jordan. Lancaster could be Wonder Woman indeed. McPartlin as Aquaman. Levi as Flash. Yvonne as Black Canary.


JLA right there.
lol...i know

[Mostpowerful]

really? its not?.....well i guess ill have to let me excitement go down..:csad:


Well, it depends on your tastes; for the fans of the Chuck and Sarah relationship, the current season is the best ever, but for us who prefer the spy story and comedy to drive the show, not so much... just keep watching, like I said, the first 3 seasons are golden and must see tv, imo.


Adam Baldwin could be a great Hawkman. Bomer looks like Hal Jordan. Lancaster could be Wonder Woman indeed. McPartlin as Aquaman. Levi as Flash. Yvonne as Black Canary.


JLA right there.

I love this scene, it's from the Chuck vs First Class episode. It's like Superman is trying to encourage a newbie/minor superhero to be brave for a mission. :word:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liNVZddzYOU

[Man of Tomorrow]

I could buy him as leader of the JLA there.

[Rust]

Funny, two in that scene played Superman, one was rumored to.

[C. Lee]

Ok.....one guy just got 2 weeks probation for continuing to post I WANT WELLING IN THE BRANDON ROUTH THREAD...which has been said a million times not to do.

Now...let me make this clear.....when the next person does this...THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU GUYS THE OK TO START YOUR I HATE WELLING REMARKS ABOUT WELLING. THAT IS CALLED TROLLING AND CONTINUING A FIGHT. THE NEXT ONE WHO DOES THAT JOINS THE PEOPLE ON PROBATION.

GET IT?

[LadyVader]

McPartlin tried out for Superman Returns and got rejected. Interesting tidbit.

He tried out for Captain America too. Jesus, just give that guy a superhero role already. He'd make a perfect Booster Gold for instance.

[Red Cherry Lips]

He tried out for Captain America too. Jesus, just give that guy a superhero role already. He'd make a perfect Booster Gold for instance.

He's gotta land that one if it gets greenlit.

[Antonello Blueberry]

He tried out for Captain America too. Jesus, just give that guy a superhero role already. He'd make a perfect Booster Gold for instance.
http://images.movieplayer.it/2009/03/19/danielle-harris-e-ryan-mcpartlin-in-una-scena-del-film-super-capes-109156.jpg

[Red Cherry Lips]

Tweet 4 hours ago from Roberto Orci:

@BrandonRouthcom I don't care what anybody says. You are SUPERMAN.

[raybia]

I've really thought about this hard for sometime about Routh as Superman. I thought his performance was mixed in my opinion but I think the things I didn't like about it was probably not his fault. It was like a movie about Christopher Reeve as Superman with Brandon playing Reeve. Now if Routh can bring his own portrayal to the table and have a more Superman presence like in TAS or the Justice league series then I am all for it.

Can he do it? I think he can, so I'm officially throwing my support for Routh as Superman.

[Fenrir]

It is depressing to see that Routh is not the front runner for this new movie, despite the fact that now he truly looks 'Superman', more than he ever did in Superman Returns. :(

[Marx]

I'd like to see Brandon Routh reprise the role. The problem with Returns was the direction and the script, not Routh.

[TheWatcher]

I'd like to see Brandon Routh reprise the role. The problem with Returns was the direction and the script, not Routh.
I couldn't have said it better!

[Mostpowerful]

I've really thought about this hard for sometime about Routh as Superman. I thought his performance was mixed in my opinion but I think the things I didn't like about it was probably not his fault. It was like a movie about Christopher Reeve as Superman with Brandon playing Reeve. Now if Routh can bring his own portrayal to the table and have a more Superman presence like in TAS or the Justice league series then I am all for it.

Can he do it? I think he can, so I'm officially throwing my support for Routh as Superman.

Yes, he can as shown in these two videos from one episode of the show Chuck. The first vid is a little long, but worth watching till the end,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPBs9BGjdIs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liNVZddzYOU

[Rust]

While I'm not exactly doing backflips of Routh's performance in SR (he's just a bit too distant and not charming/friendly enough) I'll say I still like him in both roles and he probably takes too many personal hits for SR not being a succes.

I hope they go for a new unknown actor, because that'd be more exiting, but I wouldn't mind seing what he could do with the part now where he seems older and more experienced and Singer's not involved.

[elgaz]

Routh has so many points going for him (height, look, build, mannerisms, desire for the role, etc) that it would be a shame not to at least give him another casting shot.

Though from his perspective, it must be a bit of a bummer to have to audition for a role he has already played - probably feels a bit weird to him.

I agree that if he was in a new Superman movie, he would have to play the character differently to before - make it his own, rather than being a Christopher Reeve clone. In fairness though, I blame Bryan Singer for that - by making SR a homage to the Donner films, he was always going to have a Superman that was similar to the CR one. Brandon Routh simply played the character as he was directed to.

[Dark_Lord]

From the BrandonRouth.com Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/BrandonRouthcom)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3893/brsf.jpg

[Gianakin_]

Can we get that interview somewhere? The site notw.co.uk requires registration.

[Dark_Lord]

The only thing I've found is the pic from the facebook page. It would be nice if this is true. That he'll at least be considered.

[Gianakin_]

I just have a hard time believing it, because I visited the site and it looked like a grade C tabloid.

[I Am The Knight]

That's cool! I still don't think they would bring Routh though, considering the nature of the story. Also, "Recast" means exactly the opposite of what that article thinks it does.

[Dark_Lord]

I just have a hard time believing it, because I visited the site and it looked like a grade C tabloid.

Yup. That's the same thing I thought after visiting the site.

[Bruce_Begins]

I still think that Brandon Routh is still the most suitable candidate to play Superman, and WB should consider him again, and at least let him give a screen test , if they are impressed by his performance, then sign him.

Many people want him back.

[daywalker2007]

if Routh doesn't get to play Superman again, I hope he gets cast to do a biopic of Christopher Reeve. That would certainly give us another look at Routh as Superman, probably in the Reeve costume, and would certainly be a fitting tribute to the man he replaced.

I'm sure he would love to do it and it would be the next best thing to playing Superman for Routh.

as it is, I really hope Routh continues. What a nice and humble guy.

[ChickenScratch]

Yeah, he's certainly my favorite for the role but things happen right. Things may change, or we could be pleasantly surprised by Snyder, I hope for the latter.

[Mostpowerful]

You know..... I don't really wanna say it but I will....

Yes, I'm all for Brandon to return to the cape, but I doubt it will happen, sadly.. this is WB after all.... that said, I'd at least would love to see him in a nice Superman suit for halloween or something.:csad: Would really like to see how he looks in it now that he looks more supermanly than ever. sigh..:whatever:

[Keyser Soze]

Yeah, I read that News of the World article today. It IS a tabloid newspaper, and has posted its fair share of dubious, unreliable rumors, but since they're actually quoting Snyder from an interview they had with him, I'd say we can accept as fact that Snyder did indeed say it. So at least he's acknowledging the support for Brandon Routh.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Yeah, I read that News of the World article today. It IS a tabloid newspaper, and has posted its fair share of dubious, unreliable rumors, but since they're actually quoting Snyder from an interview they had with him, I'd say we can accept as fact that Snyder did indeed say it. So at least he's acknowledging the support for Brandon Routh.I think it is fake because if you do that for one then you have to do it for all meaning Welling, Hamm, Cavil, Boomer, etc if they wanted to role as well.

[I Am The Knight]

But none of them have played movie Superman. Routh has.

[smooth3006]

From the BrandonRouth.com Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/BrandonRouthcom)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3893/brsf.jpg

id be cool with brandon getting a second chance...but in the same token welling should be able to screen test as well. that's all i say about it.

[Man of Tomorrow]

No.

[smooth3006]

No.


no what? you do realize they do not care who "you" want right? they will cast who they feel will bring in the most cash. both brandon & tom have played clark on the screen and i think the general audience would feel more comfy with them in the long run.

seriously man, lighten up.

[Man of Tomorrow]

no what? you do realize they do not care who "you" want right? they will cast who they feel will bring in the most cash. both brandon & tom have played clark on the screen and i think the general audience would feel more comfy with them in the long run.

seriously man, lighten up.


He hasn't been in the running or associated with the Superman film projects and the Features division for 7 years.

He has absolutely nothing to do with this.


Brandon played Superman in their previous film, that's why all these questions to Snyder concerning Routh's involvement are gravitating to Routh only.

BR is a different situation compared to the guy from the CW drama. IF Brandon does get a shot, it by no means equates to the other guy requiring a shot as well.

[C. Lee]

Has ANYONE read this yet? http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337724

I just sent to a dozen or so people along with warnings and infractions....

[ChickenScratch]

The law has been handed down it seems.

So yeah, Brandon it my choice as well. It's pretty obvious from my past entries that I've had nothing but support for him. I think with the right director and script he could be the new face of Superman, permanently. I would like to remain optimistic about him in the role because I think he did a good job with what he was given before, he has shown growth from his other roles and with Zack he could maybe be great.

[annie.j88]

your quote - i am impress

[smooth3006]

The law has been handed down it seems.

So yeah, Brandon it my choice as well. It's pretty obvious from my past entries that I've had nothing but support for him. I think with the right director and script he could be the new face of Superman, permanently. I would like to remain optimistic about him in the role because I think he did a good job with what he was given before, he has shown growth from his other roles and with Zack he could maybe be great.


i could live with brandon.

[manofsteel4life]

you know that scene in Chuck when Shaw finds out Sara killed his wife? The part when he screams no......i got chills. Im a big BR fan, but even i didnt think he could show emotion like that.......i need him back!

[Man of Tomorrow]

Not sure if this was posted:

http://www.moviehole.net/201026993-quick-news-october-16-2010

Clint from Moviehole says " Routh is still in with a chance"

Along with "Armie Hammer” as another name being tossed around by the Warners.


Not surprising, but interesting nevertheless.

[Superark]

Not sure if this was posted:

http://www.moviehole.net/201026993-quick-news-october-16-2010

Clint from Moviehole says " Routh is still in with a chance"

Along with "Armie Hammer” as another name being tossed around by the Warners.


Not surprising, but interesting nevertheless.


I'm not expecting anything or holding my breath for Routh to be brought back, but it's good to see that he he is at least still being considered. I'd be overjoyed if he was given a chance to reprise the role.

BTW, Routh has officially joined twitter and started his own facebook page according to www.Brandonrouth.com (http://www.Brandonrouth.com)


(http://twitter.com/#%21/_CourtneyFord_/status/27693671325)@_CourtneyFord_ (http://twitter.com/#%21/_CourtneyFord_/status/27693671325) has announced that Brandon has officially joined (http://twitter.com/#%21/_CourtneyFord_/status/27693671325)Twitter (http://twitter.com/brandonjrouth) and (http://twitter.com/#%21/_CourtneyFord_/status/27693671325)Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#%21/pages/Brandon-Routh/151962074845944).

Please give him a warm welcome!
(http://twitter.com/#%21/_CourtneyFord_/status/27693671325)

[Mostpowerful]

Aw, Edgar Wright tweeted this:

I suggest you follow my favourite evil vegan and the Man Of Steel who simply has to fly again: @BrandonJRouth

http://twitter.com/edgarwright

:)

[Man of Tomorrow]

Wow. He finally caved and joined the Facebook/Twitter.

Great stuff.

[BH/HHH]

Yeah, I read that News of the World article today. It IS a tabloid newspaper, and has posted its fair share of dubious, unreliable rumors, but since they're actually quoting Snyder from an interview they had with him, I'd say we can accept as fact that Snyder did indeed say it. So at least he's acknowledging the support for Brandon Routh.

Yeah if they quoted him and he hadn't said it he could sue, I think its true.

[BH/HHH]

Aw, Edgar Wright tweeted this:

I suggest you follow my favourite evil vegan and the Man Of Steel who simply has to fly again: @BrandonJRouth

http://twitter.com/edgarwright

:)

:up:

[Superark]

More from Clint today over at Moviehole about Brandon Routh possibly playing Superman

http://www.moviehole.net/201027017-brandon-routh-may-stay-on-as-superman


Just quickly, Last week I reported, in Quick News, that a pal at Warner Bros had mentioned Brandon Routh was “still in the mix” – despite the actor’s option having lapsed, and the fact this film’s said to have no “link” to the original – to play The Man of Steel in Zack Snyder’s new “Superman” movie.

Everyone enjoyed Routh’s performance as [both] Superman and Clark Kent in Bryan Singer’s “Superman Returns” (2006) so no surprise that the young actor might at least get to “do coffee” with Snyder; still, nice to know he is in the mix.

[Changeling]

God I really hope he gets a shot! If he does he's my number 1 choice for sure.

I thought he wasnt going to have a chance so I stopped hoping for him, but now that he has a chance....ROUTH FOR SUPERMAN!!

[Changeling]

He's the perfect choice! Out of any other choices he's the best. Perfect height, perfect look, perfect age! He's got it all!

[GinsterHead]

Aw, Edgar Wright tweeted this:

I suggest you follow my favourite evil vegan and the Man Of Steel who simply has to fly again: @BrandonJRouth

http://twitter.com/edgarwright

:)

Duly noted. Now I'm following the likes of Neil Gaiman, Roger Ebert, Simon Pegg and...THE ROUTH. :awesome::up:

[Superark]

God I really hope he gets a shot! If he does he's my number 1 choice for sure.

I thought he wasnt going to have a chance so I stopped hoping for him, but now that he has a chance....ROUTH FOR SUPERMAN!!

He's the perfect choice! Out of any other choices he's the best. Perfect height, perfect look, perfect age! He's got it all!

Agreed, though I'm not going to get my hopes too high.

[Ita-KalEl]

Not sure if this was posted:

http://www.moviehole.net/201026993-quick-news-october-16-2010

Clint from Moviehole says " Routh is still in with a chance"

Along with "Armie Hammer” as another name being tossed around by the Warners.


Not surprising, but interesting nevertheless.

WOW moviehole.net still exists? I'm amazed :whatever:

[Naite22]

Routh deserves to play the part again! He did nothing wrong. Did an amazing job with what he was given.
There's something so incredibly humble and genuine about him. YES, he should play superman again!

Warner Bros. You're already on a tight schedule and you ****ing know it. Dont waste time searching for a new superman, cause Routh IS Superman!

[Lighthouse]

I'm really hesitating believing this News of the World "interview". I mean......it's News of the World! He doesn't divulge this information to Variety, Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, AICN, CHUD, Heat Vision, The Wrap, but to News of the World?

[Man of Tomorrow]

More from Clint today over at Moviehole about Brandon Routh possibly playing Superman

http://www.moviehole.net/201027017-brandon-routh-may-stay-on-as-superman


Great.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Not sure if this was posted anywhere, but there is a petition in support of Routh coming back to play Supes. Let's all get over there and sign this petition......

http://www.petitiononline.com/BRSupes/petition.html

[Fenrir]

Right now, Routh looks more like Superman than any other proposed candidate to date. And despite the weak script of Superman Returns, he showed that he damn well can act the part too. Count me in on the Brandonwagon. :up:

[Red Cherry Lips]

I'm really hesitating believing this News of the World "interview". I mean......it's News of the World! He doesn't divulge this information to Variety, Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, AICN, CHUD, Heat Vision, The Wrap, but to News of the World?

:up:

Yup, I am not believing it unless Routh and Snyder go directly to the sources you mentioned to announce such "news."

[sf2]

i hope they at least take br as backup. not disqualify him right away.

[Compi716]

i hope they at least take br as backup. not disqualify him right away.
I think it would be so foolish for WB to just let him go right away. I mean, let's look at the fact:

1) It took FOREVER to cast Superman the first time around. Think of how many actors, direcors, and years went by between Reeve and Routh!

2) Routh seems to have unanimous support from the online entertainment journalism community. Additionally, actual filmmakers have already come out saying that Routh should get the part back, particularly Edgar Wright.

3) Getting the part BACK. Routh isn't auditioning for some new role here. He's taking BACK what's rightfully his. He won it the first time around, and he's established himself (at least visually) as the "Superman of Today."

Let the man have his role back!

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think it would be so foolish for WB to just let him go right away. I mean, let's look at the fact:

1) It took FOREVER to cast Superman the first time around. Think of how many actors, direcors, and years went by between Reeve and Routh!

2) Routh seems to have unanimous support from the online entertainment journalism community. Additionally, actual filmmakers have already come out saying that Routh should get the part back, particularly Edgar Wright.

3) Getting the part BACK. Routh isn't auditioning for some new role here. He's taking BACK what's rightfully his. He won it the first time around, and he's established himself (at least visually) as the "Superman of Today."

Let the man have his role back!You forgot to include that he is still pretty much the face of Superman. His image is still used somewhat for Superman even DC artist use him as well.

[Mostpowerful]

You forgot to include that he is still pretty much the face of Superman. His image is still used somewhat for Superman even DC artist use him as well.

I think that's also because Brandon REALLY resembles the character from the comicbooks. He also looks so much like the Birthright and Byrne Superman. He's got such a great classic look.

BTW, I love that image of Supes. Would you be so kind to post a link of it please? :yay:


And agreed, compi!

[treeringralph]

[QUOTE=Mostpowerful;19082309]I think that's also because Brandon REALLY resembles the character from the comicbooks. He also looks so much like the Birthright and Byrne Superman. He's got such a great classic look.

BTW, I love that image of Supes. Would you be so kind to post a link of it please? :yay: QUOTE]

YEAH! Ultimate Superman, where did you get that avvy? That pic is awesome!

[catlas]

I think that's also because Brandon REALLY resembles the character from the comicbooks. He also looks so much like the Birthright and Byrne Superman. He's got such a great classic look.

BTW, I love that image of Supes. Would you be so kind to post a link of it please? :yay:


And agreed, compi!

Hey gang, I love that pic too, did some digging and found it on the DC blog...link below...


http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/10/15/process-piece-a-look-at-superman-earth-one/

[BH/HHH]

I think it would be so foolish for WB to just let him go right away. I mean, let's look at the fact:

1) It took FOREVER to cast Superman the first time around. Think of how many actors, direcors, and years went by between Reeve and Routh!

2) Routh seems to have unanimous support from the online entertainment journalism community. Additionally, actual filmmakers have already come out saying that Routh should get the part back, particularly Edgar Wright.

3) Getting the part BACK. Routh isn't auditioning for some new role here. He's taking BACK what's rightfully his. He won it the first time around, and he's established himself (at least visually) as the "Superman of Today."

Let the man have his role back!

:up: great post

[treeringralph]

Hey gang, I love that pic too, did some digging and found it on the DC blog...link below...


http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/10/15/process-piece-a-look-at-superman-earth-one/

Great job! Thanks!

Another reason to look forward to picking up Superman: Earth One!

[Ultimate_Superman]

Great job! Thanks!

Another reason to look forward to picking up Superman: Earth One!Yea Shane Davis uses Routh's likeness for his Superman most of the time. So thats a plus for all Routh fans.

[Rust]

3) Getting the part BACK. Routh isn't auditioning for some new role here. He's taking BACK what's rightfully his. He won it the first time around, and he's established himself (at least visually) as the "Superman of Today."
Let the man have his role back!


Sorry, dont quite agree here. This will be a different take on the character, so Routh would basically have to start from scratch. With more emotion, please.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Sorry, dont quite agree here. This will be a different take on the character, so Routh would basically have to start from scratch. With more emotion, please.
Agreed

[BH/HHH]

You forgot to include that he is still pretty much the face of Superman. His image is still used somewhat for Superman even DC artist use him as well.

I went to card shop the other day to get a birthday card and there were several Superman cards two of the designs both had Routh as Superman on

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Sorry, dont quite agree here. This will be a different take on the character, so Routh would basically have to start from scratch. With more emotion, please.

More all around presence, too.

[hippie_hunter]

But that had more to do with Singer's direction of the film, not Routh himself.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Shane Davis used Routh's image again for Superman in Earth One?

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2010/10/sme1galley-082-copy.jpg

Not surprising. I called this a while back.

[Rhiannon]

I tend to agree, hippie_hunter. The story and direction didn't give Routh many opportunities to exude a commanding presence. I don't think it was Singer's objective to portray him as such; during scenes such as Superman crying as he flies away from watching Lois at her home and being beaten mercilessly by Lex and a group of thugs, he wanted Superman to come across as someone who is plagued with human weaknesses despite his godlike powers. The self-sacrificial angle was overplayed to the exclusion of showing Superman as a powerful guardian, unfortunately. None of that is Routh's fault. He played the character as he was written.

[herolee10]

I think it would be so foolish for WB to just let him go right away. I mean, let's look at the fact:

1) It took FOREVER to cast Superman the first time around. Think of how many actors, direcors, and years went by between Reeve and Routh!

2) Routh seems to have unanimous support from the online entertainment journalism community. Additionally, actual filmmakers have already come out saying that Routh should get the part back, particularly Edgar Wright.

3) Getting the part BACK. Routh isn't auditioning for some new role here. He's taking BACK what's rightfully his. He won it the first time around, and he's established himself (at least visually) as the "Superman of Today."

Let the man have his role back!

ITA with all of this. One of the main reasons why no other superman project was able to get off the ground in the past was because Directors had a hard time finding an actor that would bring credit to the role.

Right now, brandon is Warner Bros. Safest bet at the moment. He's still the right age for the role, he hasn't been involved in any scandalous affairs in the eyes of the public, and quite honestly, he's the closest that I've seen so far that's able to emit the strength and sincerity present within Superman's facial features than any of the other actors that are being discussed for the role.

[I Am The Knight]

I'm not sure about this. I love Routh, but I don't see this happening....Also, it might be best if they recast the role. Frankly, Routh or Recast would be good for me.

[Superman2007]

I love Routh as Superman aswell...but he just doesn't work for what Snyder and Nolan are trying to do.

If they cast him in a potential "established Superman" storyline, people will think it's a sequel and question where the kid and all the other key players are.

If they cast him in an origin for Superman, the movie will come off looking like a prequel.

We know Snyder, Nolan, Goyer and Co want this Superman film to be apart from everything else that has come before...in that sense...Routh just doesn't work. It's a shame, but it is what it is. Routh will be fine, he got his shot, he got paid and he'll move on.

[I Am The Knight]

I'm pretty sure this is Superman Begins, so yeah I think everything will be new. WB will hit the reset button.

[herolee10]

but..IF..and this is a big IF..if the rumors are true, and that Synder is actually putting Routh into consideration, doesn't that say something about their potential willingness to use him for the role again despite his connection with Singer's film?

[I Am The Knight]

Well, obviously there's a lot of people that love him and liked him in the role, so he has that going for him. But I don't think the storyline they are apparently going with supports using him again. If they are fully rebooting, and doing an origin story, then it doesn't makes much sense.

It's not like Batman Forever, where they wanted Keaton back and that would have made sense because they were basically continuing the series under new lenses, not resetting the franchise, like they seem to be doing here. Therein lies the problem with Routh.

[Mostpowerful]

Hey gang, I love that pic too, did some digging and found it on the DC blog...link below...


http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/10/15/process-piece-a-look-at-superman-earth-one/

Nice, thanks!




[QUOTE]
If they cast him in a potential "established Superman" storyline, people will think it's a sequel and question where the kid and all the other key players are.

They will think that any way. But soon they'd realize it is a new continuity once they see that everything else is new. I don't think they'd have a problem with it really as long as Superman looks great and the movie is fun and entertaining. I think casting the right man for this role is very important, and IMO Brandon is a fantastic choice and general audiences have already accepted him in the part.




If they cast him in an origin for Superman, the movie will come off looking like a prequel.


Not necessarily if everything else is new. People are smarter than one might think.

[Compi716]

Unless they pulled a Judi Dench as M move. She played the same role
in TWO different Bond continuities.

[elgaz]

She wasn't the lead character though. I think it's easier to get away with recasting supporting roles.

Despite that though, I agree that the general public are not as stupid as some people would have you believe. All this worry and hype about whether keeping Routh in the role would be confusing or not - you know what? Once asses are in cinema seats and Superman is on screen doing his thing, no-one will give a damn. Once a movie starts you tend to immerse yourself in it and as long as the marketing and PR machine make clear that this is a new take on Superman, it won't be a problem.

It's a very unique situation, I'll give it that. You have this capable actor who's the right age for the role, has the right look and build for the role, wants the role, and has played the role before. An actor who's face was on every bit of merchandise associated with the role and who many people still see as 'Superman' - that's how he's introduced in just about every interview, magazine article and TV show he's ever on.

And whilst the film he was in wasn't a critical success, it still made a lot of money - don't confuse the relatively low profit made by the film as a sign of failure. Plenty of people saw the film but the huge budget ate into most of the profits.

Yet because the film's director chose to take the entirely wrong direction with the film, we have this situation where the studio want a new movie which is totally distanced from the old one.

In a way, I liken it to the James Bond movies. After the release of Die Another Day with Pierce Brosnan, the film was criticised for dodgy effects, questionable plotlines and silly gimmicks. An invisible Aston Martin??? It became clear that a new approach to Bond was needed and Casino Royale took a much more realistic, edgy and gritty approach to the franchise, with great success. But with Daniel Craig replacing Brosnan in the role.

The question is, putting aside age and physicality ........... would the public have accepted Brosnan returning to the role, playing the same character in a much different film?

As long as he played the character differently - in a serious manner more suited to the style of Casino Royale - I think they would have. This is the closest comparison I can think to the current situation with the question mark over Routh's recasting.

[Bruce_Begins]

Routh can play Supes but look a lot different than he did in SR, In SR everything was color corrected to have a brown tint.

His face has matured a lot and now he looks the part more. In addition to that make some changes -

1. Routh's hair is black but in SR he had Dark Brown hair, Just make his Hair Black and part the hair other way, and make his hair short, this will make him look different.

2. Change his costume, make a wide neck and a different type of cape attachment, make Suit colors bright.

3. Make him put on more muscle, that will surely give him a different look.

4. Do not include any of the supporting cast of SR, which will make it clear to everyone that this is not the continuation of SR.

Nobody remembers Chris Evans as Jonny Storm (Human Torch.) in Fantastic Four and thinks that he is the same guy who is now playing Captain America.

So, Routh as Superman will not be a problem to most moviegoers.

[annie.j88]

he's not gonna get it.

if he does, it'll be the first time i've ever experienced this, apart from re-casting judy dench as m in a prequel/reeboot, but even then , she was just a supporting character.

i think the GA would get too confused

[raybia]

She wasn't the lead character though. I think it's easier to get away with recasting supporting roles.

.

Could be that its easier which means that Snyder would have to work a little bit harder in order to make it work. The first place he can start is Routh's look. In my opinion Routh's Superman didn't have a traditional look. From the costume to the hairstyle and even his face which was young looking, he didn't have the classic look, which wasn't his fault. So if Snyder can make him look like he was lifted straight from the comics and then have him play Superman more like he is portrayed, say like from TAS. Then right away I think people will see that this is not connected to SR. There are other things they can do as well, such as a massive ad campaign so that by the time the movie is release, most people will know its not a prequel or a sequel. Of course there will be a couple of idiots who will be confused as there were when BB was made, who thought it was a prequel to Keaton's Batman, but of course then eventually learned the truth.

[annie.j88]

just seems like a massive risk and too much effort.

just re-cast. brandon has too much baggage, thanks to singer

[Rust]

Yeah, too much negative baggage. Maybe if he had totally nailed the part. But then we might've been looking at a sequel. I dunno...

I prefer a completely fresh start.

Sorry, Routh...

[Daybreak_st]

Sorry, dont quite agree here. This will be a different take on the character, so Routh would basically have to start from scratch. With more emotion, please.


Agreed completely. I think it's funny that Routh's natural appearance looks more like Superman than he did after Hair and make up for Superman Returns. Now if your guy naturally looks better for the role than he does once you've made him up and placed him in the costume their something seriously wrong with your production.

He's older now, looks even more like Superman, and with the right direction i think he'll cement his place as the iconic character. His look could be as good as or better than Reeve, they just need to work with his natural look and avoid making him look so "plastic" and "artificial". Look at the difference:

http://fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/brandon-routh.jpg

vs

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/00/DanielShaw_Chuck.JPG/250px-DanielShaw_Chuck.JPG

http://0.tqn.com/d/horror/1/0/v/p/brandon_routh1_500.jpg

[Rust]

Also, I think the contacts which actually help make him look more "alien" also put up a barrier. They make him look even more inhuman and distant which should fit the character, but in this case didnt really help the actor.

[BH/HHH]

he's not gonna get it.

if he does, it'll be the first time i've ever experienced this, apart from re-casting judy dench as m in a prequel/reeboot, but even then , she was just a supporting character.

i think the GA would get too confused

I disagree with that, I don't think he wil get it but the general audience won't be confused, trust me people who just watch these movies don't always realise things I know people that didn't know Batman Begins was a reboot. I don't think it would confuse the public at all.

[Mostpowerful]

Yeah, too much negative baggage. Maybe if he had totally nailed the part. But then we might've been looking at a sequel. I dunno...

I prefer a completely fresh start.

Sorry, Routh...

Actually, to most people he NAILED the part. You may not have liked his work much, but the fact is that to a lot of people he did a great job with the story and material he was given to work with. It's NOT his fault there was no sequel, there were other factors at work, especially Bryan Singer.

Brandon won awards for his work in SR such as:

“Superman Returns” Tops Saturn Awards, including Best Actor for Brandon.
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news/2007-news/2007-news-movie.php?topic=2007-news-movie/0511

Best Superhero- Spike TV's Scream Awards Awards 2006 (beating up contenders like Jackman and Bale)
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEIwlILJAWBSNI (http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEIwlILJAWBSNI)

Empire Award 2007 for Best Male Newcomer
http://www.empireonline.com/awards/malenewcomer.asp

Link to pic: http://photogallery.indiatimes.com/celebs/international-stars/brandon-routh/Brandon-Routh/photo/2582835/Brandon-Routh.jpg

And sorry but this 'too much negative baggage' is a myth among online fanboys. Yes, many people expected a different approach with this film, but a lot of people also loved the film as it is. General audiences just wanted MORE action. I don't really think there was a need for a reboot, but I don't make the calls so...

[Antonello Blueberry]

Vote.
http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/who-should-play-superman/question-1288813/
I know it's like voting for Obama in Utah, but let's do it.

[manofsteel4life]

Vote.
http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/who-should-play-superman/question-1288813/
I know it's like voting for Obama in Utah, but let's do it.

i actually clicked on BR like i would actually see him leading lol.

[GreenKToo]

Whoa. Tom is killing him, whats up with that.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I know it's like voting for Obama in Utah, but let's do it.

LOL. Now there's some unbiased polling.


Who cares. No use posting that crap here.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Also, I think the contacts which actually help make him look more "alien" also put up a barrier. They make him look even more inhuman and distant which should fit the character, but in this case didnt really help the actor.

There are so many different types of contacts. Bryan wanted an alien-looking style. There are natural looking blues as well.

[treeringralph]

Actually, to most people he NAILED the part. You may not have liked his work much, but the fact is that to a lot of people he did a great job with the story and material he was given to work with. It's NOT his fault there was no sequel, there were other factors at work, especially Bryan Singer.

Brandon won awards for his work in SR such as:

“Superman Returns” Tops Saturn Awards, including Best Actor for Brandon.
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news/2007-news/2007-news-movie.php?topic=2007-news-movie/0511

Best Superhero- Spike TV's Scream Awards Awards 2006 (beating up contenders like Jackman and Bale)
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEIwlILJAWBSNI (http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEIwlILJAWBSNI)

Empire Award 2007 for Best Male Newcomer
http://www.empireonline.com/awards/malenewcomer.asp

Link to pic: http://photogallery.indiatimes.com/celebs/international-stars/brandon-routh/Brandon-Routh/photo/2582835/Brandon-Routh.jpg

And sorry but this 'too much negative baggage' is a myth among online fanboys. Yes, many people expected a different approach with this film, but a lot of people also loved the film as it is. General audiences just wanted MORE action. I don't really think there was a need for a reboot, but I don't make the calls so...


Thank you for this post!

Hate towards Singer, Routh, Superman Returns has become a belief system amongst certain fanboys...a belief system that continues to smolder despite mountains of factual evidence that stand opposed to such beliefs.

Again, thank you for this ever-so-slight dose of reality.

[LL2K2]

Whoa. Tom is killing him, whats up with that.

I think the overwhelming bias on the site is obvious. Did you guys see the stuff underneath the poll? Bunch of haters. :mad:

[Mostpowerful]

I think the overwhelming bias on the site is obvious. Did you guys see the stuff underneath the poll? Bunch of haters. :mad:

I actually find that manip over the top hilarious! :woot: Imagine all the time, effort and energy that it took to make it. Man some people have so much time on their hands.. :cwink:

[Man of Tomorrow]

That's what desperation does :)

[Timstuff]

I can hear my past self attempting to strangle me now, but if the only two options were Welling and Routh I'd go with Routh. There is way too much at stake here to risk tying this movie up with a TV show that was supposed to end 5 seasons ago, and even though I have big problems with either actor reprising their role in Man of Steel, Routh would be the lesser risk (though it would still be a risk). Tom Welling has had 10 years to nail the role and he still hasn't done it, but at least with Routh we can chock up most of the problems with his performance to SR's bad direction and putrid script.

[LadyVader]

To be fair, Welling hasn't nailed Superman because he wasn't allowed to. I am as shocked as anybody that Smallville lasted so long! But if you base your opinion of how well Welling can play Superman, you should base it on this last season when he's allowed to be as Supermanly as he or the writers want to.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm more shocked that 7th Heaven went 11 seasons.

Actually, I'm not. The WB/CW keeps everything to keep that sad network afloat.

[Fenrir]

C'mon fellas, you couldn't get more 'Superman' than this:

http://i52.tinypic.com/i6w08l.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2d1ph6f.jpg

[Man of Tomorrow]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs412.snc4/47500_1574806939547_1516775316_31480471_4029841_n. jpg

People say Cain has the best physique of all the Superman actors. I think Brandon has reached there:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs568.snc3/30999_10150162106835262_10150131491105262_12202015 _4069636_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs568.snc3/30999_10150162106840262_10150131491105262_12202016 _4980035_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs568.snc3/30999_10150162106850262_10150131491105262_12202018 _1769482_n.jpg

[annie.j88]

I disagree with that, I don't think he wil get it but the general audience won't be confused, trust me people who just watch these movies don't always realise things I know people that didn't know Batman Begins was a reboot. I don't think it would confuse the public at all.

as far as actually testing out whether or not it would actually confuse the public, i don't think the studio would want to risk that.

as i said, the only example i can think of is judy dench as m for casino royale, but a lead character? if someone here has an example of a lead role being re-cast in a reboot, and it working, then please let me know.

for now, i will guess that having a lead from a previous film in a new film will cause people to assume that this is the same continuity, something nolan and co. are moving away from...

[Maze]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollars_Trilogy

[Polux]

C'mon fellas, you couldn't get more 'Superman' than this:

http://i52.tinypic.com/i6w08l.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2d1ph6f.jpg

It´s almost impossible to look at those pictures (particularly the second one) and NOT think "Superman"....the guys´s just perfect.


Polux

[Fenrir]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs412.snc4/47500_1574806939547_1516775316_31480471_4029841_n. jpg

People say Cain has the best physique of all the Superman actors. I think Brandon has reached there.

And with a few months work in the gym, he could become even more jacked up. Look at what Chris Hemsworth looked like before Thor, and Brandon is already good enough to put on the Superman suit. Appearance-wise, he doesn't look anywhere as 'boyish' as he did in Superman Returns and really has matured a lot in the past few years (and in all likelihood, will look even better by 2012). If Brandon does get to play Superman again, he might actually have a shot at dethroning Chris Reeve as far as the 'definitive Superman' look is concerned.

[annie.j88]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollars_Trilogy

thanks for that, but it looks like even though the chronology of those films was in a different order, it's not the same as making a reboot using the lead actor from a previous franchise

[Man of Tomorrow]

Best Superhero- Spike TV's Scream Awards Awards 2006 (beating up contenders like Jackman and Bale)
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEIwlILJAWBSNI (http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEIwlILJAWBSNI)


Speaking of the Scream Awards, amusing, not surprising, winner this year:

Best Superhero:

Iron Man 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2) - Robert Downey Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Downey_Jr.) as Iron Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man)

Kick-Ass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick-Ass_%28film%29) - Nicolas Cage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage) as Big Daddy
Kick-Ass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick-Ass_%28film%29) - Aaron Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Johnson_%28actor%29) as Kick-Ass
Kick-Ass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick-Ass_%28film%29) - Chloë Moretz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlo%C3%AB_Moretz) as Hit-Girl
Heroes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29) - Zachary Quinto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachary_Quinto) as Sylar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylar)
Smallville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville) - Tom Welling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Welling) as Clark Kent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman)



Congrats to RDJ.

[Maze]

thanks for that, but it looks like even though the chronology of those films was in a different order, it's not the same as making a reboot using the lead actor from a previous franchise

Well, not really, cause they were not really sequels or sequels, as a lot of the actors played different characters. the movie were some kind of reboots.

[Maze]

You have also Sean Connery coming back as Bond with never say never again, ( remake of thunderball) and the same year Moore played again the character (in the main franchise) .

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Speaking of the Scream Awards, amusing, not surprising, winner this year:


Best Superhero:

Iron Man 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2) - Robert Downey Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Downey_Jr.) as Iron Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man)

Kick-Ass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick-Ass_%28film%29) - Nicolas Cage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage) as Big Daddy
Kick-Ass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick-Ass_%28film%29) - Aaron Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Johnson_%28actor%29) as Kick-Ass
Kick-Ass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick-Ass_%28film%29) - Chloë Moretz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlo%C3%AB_Moretz) as Hit-Girl
Heroes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29) - Zachary Quinto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachary_Quinto) as Sylar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylar)
Smallville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville) - Tom Welling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Welling) as Clark Kent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman)


Congrats to RDJ.

I would've chose Hit-Girl, but RDJ deserves it too.

[Mostpowerful]

I can hear my past self attempting to strangle me now, but if the only two options were Welling and Routh I'd go with Routh. There is way too much at stake here to risk tying this movie up with a TV show that was supposed to end 5 seasons ago, and even though I have big problems with either actor reprising their role in Man of Steel, Routh would be the lesser risk (though it would still be a risk). Tom Welling has had 10 years to nail the role and he still hasn't done it, but at least with Routh we can chock up most of the problems with his performance to SR's bad direction and putrid script.

I understand you loved Scott Pilgrim vs the world. You saw Brandon's performance in it. Do you think he wasn't any good in his role? Most reviews I read praised him a lot and said he was one of the highlights of the film. Wright said he cast him as Todd Ingram (and Evans as another evil ex) because he basically wanted Scott Pilgrim to face off evil Superman, and also because he needed two really impossing actors that had real presence.



http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs412.snc4/47500_1574806939547_1516775316_31480471_4029841_n. jpg


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs568.snc3/30999_10150162106835262_10150131491105262_12202015 _4069636_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs568.snc3/30999_10150162106840262_10150131491105262_12202016 _4980035_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs568.snc3/30999_10150162106850262_10150131491105262_12202018 _1769482_n.jpg

Seriously, next to Brandon, you can see just how wrong Cain was for the role. Don't take me wrong, Cain was cute in his younger days, but he never really had the 'look' or the presence.



And with a few months work in the gym, he could become even more jacked up. Look at what Chris Hemsworth looked like before Thor, and Brandon is already good enough to put on the Superman suit. Appearance-wise, he doesn't look anywhere as 'boyish' as he did in Superman Returns and really has matured a lot in the past few years (and in all likelihood, will look even better by 2012). If Brandon does get to play Superman again, he might actually have a shot at dethroning Chris Reeve as far as the 'definitive Superman' look is concerned.

Hmm, not sure about that, I think both men simply have/had a GREAT look for this character. I love them both equally.

[I Am The Knight]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollars_Trilogy

Yes? Are we trying to make a point about recasting here?