Man of Steel: The Official Brandon Routh Thread

[Nightmare]

Looks like we're a long way from MOS.

[Ita-KalEl]

Looks like we're a long way from MOS.

I hope not. The 2010 seems a good release date.

[Showtime]

I admit that this was not the biggest problem but I prefer my Daily Planet to be more comparable to the New York Times and less to the National Inquirer so this was a small problem for me. Look I’m just tired of people saying this is some great work of art and I’m just too stupid or immature to get it. Like this is the Citizen Cain of comic book movies, so I try to give examples as to why I do not like this movie, other than just posting SR sucks!

That is fine, you can say whatever you want. I don't think that Superman Returns is Chinatown or anything but it doesn't mean I'm going to agree with you on everything.

[superbaby]

I hope not. The 2010 seems a good release date.
then, superman gotta face the challenge of ironman, spidey and thor. is he up to that challenge??? will it be another smash in the face like 2006 by pirates?
can singer deliver??? will the general public still have confidence in him???

[FilmNerdJamie]

There's been more active talk about Superman: Man of Steel than there has on Spider-Man 4.

James Vanderbilt (i.e. screenwriter of Zodiac) was hired just a week or two before the WGA Strike started last year. We've yet to hear a word from Sony, Marvel Films, etc. regarding Webhead's 4th cinematic outting since.

[GreenKToo]

then, superman gotta face the challenge of ironman, spidey and thor. is he up to that challenge??? will it be another smash in the face like 2006 by pirates?
can singer deliver??? will the general public still have confidence in him???
Tune in next week at the same time for the answers to these and other questions on the exciting "THE ENDLESS DEBATE".

Seriously though, I can't wait till we know one way or the other.

[FlawlessVictory]

There's been more active talk about Superman: Man of Steel than there has on Spider-Man 4.

James Vanderbilt (i.e. screenwriter of Zodiac) was hired just a week or two before the WGA Strike started last year. We've yet to hear a word from Sony, Marvel Films, etc. regarding Webhead's 4th cinematic outting since.

But Spider-Man 4 has a writer, MOS doesn't. And just like we have to hear from Sony and Marvel regarding Spider-Man, we still have to hear from WB regarding MOS.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am sure MOS does have a writer we just don't know about it yet and probably won't until a script is turned in.

[FlawlessVictory]

I am sure MOS does have a writer we just don't know about it yet and probably won't until a script is turned in.

But that's the thing, until WB officially announces a writer is on board, I can't assume it has one. I know for a fact Spider-Man 4 has one.

[Showtime]

Makes sense.

[FilmNerdJamie]

But Spider-Man 4 has a writer, MOS doesn't. And just like we have to hear from Sony and Marvel regarding Spider-Man, we still have to hear from WB regarding MOS.

The problem however is the long gap of silence between Vanderbilt being officially hired and now. At least with TMOS, we've heard from Singer, Routh, Spacey, Hell even Langella and outlets like Variety and Hollywood Reporter have made mentions here and there.

Spider-Man 4? Zip. Publicly and privately, I've heard absolutely nothing (i.e. updates and what not) about it so far. Granted at Comic Con, Sony and Marvel Films might make some big announcement(s).

But the moment, I highly doubt it. Marvel Films will make probably said announcements about other projects like Iron Man 2 and Thor.

[mojo-x]

The problem however is the long gap of silence between Vanderbilt being officially hired and now. At least with TMOS, we've heard from Singer, Routh, Spacey, Hell even Langella and outlets like Variety and Hollywood Reporter have made mentions here and there.

Spider-Man 4? Zip. Publicly and privately, I've heard absolutely nothing (i.e. updates and what not) about it so far. Granted at Comic Con, Sony and Marvel Films might make some big announcement(s).

But the moment, I highly doubt it. Marvel Films will make probably said announcements about other projects like Iron Man 2 and Thor.

Yah that’s why there’s a rumor that they plan on shooting Spiderman 4 and 5 back to back. Again what does Spiderman have to do with SR. Why do people feel the need to say well Spiderman 3 wasn’t that good so that justify SR sucking?

[FlawlessVictory]

The problem however is the long gap of silence between Vanderbilt being officially hired and now. At least with TMOS, we've heard from Singer, Routh, Spacey, Hell even Langella and outlets like Variety and Hollywood Reporter have made mentions here and there.

Spider-Man 4? Zip. Publicly and privately, I've heard absolutely nothing (i.e. updates and what not) about it so far. Granted at Comic Con, Sony and Marvel Films might make some big announcement(s).


Speak of the devil :cwink: Granted, it is unconfirmed.


Spider-Man 4 & 5 to be Shot at the Same Time?
Source: Cinematical (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/05/16/scoop-spider-man-4-and-5-might-be-shot-at-the-same-time/)
May 16, 2008


Cinematical (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/05/16/scoop-spider-man-4-and-5-might-be-shot-at-the-same-time/) has received an unconfirmed scoop saying that Zodiac screenwriter James Vanderbilt has turned in a working draft for Spider-Man 4 to Sony Pictures.

The really interesting thing, however, is that they say his story arc encompasses two films, opening up the possiblity that the studio might shoot the fourth and fifth film at the same time!

If this is indeed accurate, we'll have to see if director Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, and others will return for the two films.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7218

[FaT_tONle]

Speak of the devil :cwink: Granted, it is unconfirmed.


Spider-Man 4 & 5 to be Shot at the Same Time?
Source: Cinematical (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/05/16/scoop-spider-man-4-and-5-might-be-shot-at-the-same-time/)
May 16, 2008


Cinematical (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/05/16/scoop-spider-man-4-and-5-might-be-shot-at-the-same-time/) has received an unconfirmed scoop saying that Zodiac screenwriter James Vanderbilt has turned in a working draft for Spider-Man 4 to Sony Pictures.

The really interesting thing, however, is that they say his story arc encompasses two films, opening up the possiblity that the studio might shoot the fourth and fifth film at the same time!

If this is indeed accurate, we'll have to see if director Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, and others will return for the two films.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7218

Damn... sounds like a Sinister Six setup to me... or possibly Carnage in a finale which would be pretty lame IMO.... but they should definitely get the cast back... I said in another thread MOS would be trouble if SM4 is targeting a 2010 release date... WB sat and sat and sat... and now they might end up empty handed again for two years in a row..

[FilmNerdJamie]

Yah that’s why there’s a rumor that they plan on shooting Spiderman 4 and 5 back to back.


That story broke like a half-hour or so after I wrote that post. Before then, there had been no rumblings about Spider-Man 4 between Vanderbilt being hired and now.


Damn... sounds like a Sinister Six setup to me... or possibly Carnage in a finale which would be pretty lame IMO.... but they should definitely get the cast back... I said in another thread MOS would be trouble if SM4 targeting a 2010 release date... WB sat and sat and sat... and now they might end up empty handed again for two years in a row..

This summer is over-stuffed with superhero films. So I fail to see why TMOS couldn't be released for 2010 along with Iron Man 2, Thor and possibly Spider-Man 4.

[FaT_tONle]

This summer is over-stuffed with superhero films. So I fail to see why TMOS couldn't be released for 2010 along with Iron Man 2, Thor and possibly Spider-Man 4.

So you are counting Hancock then? Well I guess you can do that... but why would DC want to go directly against Marvel? Let's say you get SM4 in the late June slot (ala SR and SM2)... Supes would be out probably in the second week of July. Maybe the third weekend after SPidey is released. That means Spidey will be affecting your B.O draw. Its not a smart move. If Spidey pushes its release to the July 4th weekend then you have to push MOS closer to August... which is terrible. A holiday release is probably the best bet but would WB really want that? I think you need to distance yourself from Marvel at least by four weeks to be safe. Anything less than that is risky and I am not sure they wouldn't be better off pushing it back to December (although WB has HP 7 around that time already) so that might not be a good move either.

[mojo-x]

I totally disagree, SM3 ruined a triple A franchise, while SR was only a slow start that you can easily improve with an action-oriented sequel.
After SM3 the greatest sh franchise is completely devastated: the writers are changed, the director will not return, idem for the main actors, and the SM3 DVD sold 1/5 of the first Spiderman.
You need a miracle to continue the franchise.

Well thanxs for miracles.
Yah that’s why there’s a rumor that they plan on shooting Spiderman 4 and 5 back to back. Again what does Spiderman have to do with SR. Why do people feel the need to say well Spiderman 3 wasn’t that good so that justify SR sucking?

[FilmNerdJamie]

If anything, WB will probably have TMOS for a mid-late July release (i.e. same as The Dark Knight is doing).

[Showtime]

Exactly.

I wouldn't get all bent out of shape with this Spiderman rumor at this point either.

[Ita-KalEl]

I wouldn't bet on spiderman 4 ready for a 2010 release date.

[FaT_tONle]

It doesn't take a year to prepare for pre-production... Sony finds a director in July... casting begins in the fall and boom... done. I just don't like throwing in Hancock with major comic book films... even though its a superhero film. But even with a three week gap between a SM4/MOS (which is what we'd be looking at)... after IM... Thor... SM4... do people really need another major comic book character in that span? Even though it is Superman... the public will be burned out by then.

[FilmNerdJamie]

If the public isn't burned out by superhero films after this summer, then 2010 won't be a problem...

[Showtime]

It doesn't take a year to prepare for pre-production... Sony finds a director in July... casting begins in the fall and boom... done. I just don't like throwing in Hancock with major comic book films... even though its a superhero film. But even with a three week gap between a SM4/MOS (which is what we'd be looking at)... after IM... Thor... SM4... do people really need another major comic book character in that span? Even though it is Superman... the public will be burned out by then.

Well you can't control what other studios are doing, so WB either goes forward with Superman or they don't. It doesn't matter if Marvel is doing Spiderman 4 or not, they're not going to throw up their hands and say, "Well, Marvel is coming out with Spiderman now so we have to cancel Superman and there are other superhero movies out there and we don't want to burn the public out."

[FaT_tONle]

I am not saying that's what they are thinking (not that they aren't) but obviously I don't believe WB is letting what these other studios are doing dictate what WB intends to put out there... because it shouldn't affect what they do... my point is... by stalling like this... MOS is going to get second treatment... no way its going to be on the GP eyes as far as top 2... IM2 will be one and SM4 will probably be number 2 in people's eyes (if they get the cast back then it will be the most anticipated release of that year)... while TDK has been on everyone's number one movie (or up there) for months... they'll have an awfully tough time selling Superman again in the face of that kind of competition.

[Showtime]

I wouldn't be so sure that Spiderman 4/5 or whatever the heck they are calling it is going to be a continuation of the same story arcs leftover from Spiderman 3 or with the same exact cast if the movie does happen. If they bring big action and fun, they should have no problem selling Superman, that is what sold Spiderman and Iron Man right?

[FaT_tONle]

I wouldn't be so sure that Spiderman 4/5 or whatever the heck they are calling it is going to be a continuation of the same story arcs leftover from Spiderman 3 or with the same exact cast if the movie does happen. If they bring big action and fun, they should have no problem selling Superman, that is what sold Spiderman and Iron Man right?

Well that's the million dollar question... if Sony makes a direct sequel... re-signs Byrce, Tobey, Kirsten, Baker, Cromwell, Simmons and what not (which I doubt will ahppen as well). SM4 will definitely overshadow everything else. It will be this years TDK... and MOS will get Hulk treatment. And we all know TIH is going to be hardpressed grossing 400 total when all is said and done.

[Showtime]

Well that's the million dollar question... if Sony makes a direct sequel... re-signs Byrce, Tobey, Kirsten, Baker, Cromwell, Simmons and what not (which I doubt will ahppen as well). SM4 will definitely overshadow everything else. It will be this years TDK... and MOS will get Hulk treatment. And we all know TIH is going to be hardpressed grossing 400 total when all is said and done.

I think you're being a little dramatic personally. Spiderman 4 will not be even close to TDK, it will be much bigger. That being said MOS has nothing to do with TIH at all. Superman Returns will probably drop about 3 weeks after Spiderman 4, if not it could drop the beginning of June.

[FilmNerdJamie]

This "make two superhero sequels at once" rumor is not new. If you'll remember, it was brought up regarding X-Men (i.e. back when Singer was still attached to X3) and Spider-Man (i.e. 3 would have Sandman and then segway into 4 which would feature Venom).

So at the moment....take it with a grain of salt, folks...

[FaT_tONle]

I think you're being a little dramatic personally. Spiderman 4 will not be even close to TDK, it will be much bigger. That being said MOS has nothing to do with TIH at all. Superman Returns will probably drop about 3 weeks after Spiderman 4, if not it could drop the beginning of June.

Well I don't know how much more anticipated you can get than TDK. SM4 won't be nearly as big as TDK if its recasted in the lead slots... which would bode well for MOS but not my much considering how poorly SR captured the public's imagination.

[Showtime]

I'm not saying Dark Knight isn't anticipated, but you can't compare it to Spiderman in regards to numbers. Not necessarily true about SM4, if there is a recasting, you're going to see a different look Spiderman which won't be a direct sequel.

[FaT_tONle]

I think SM4 is a direct sequel even if it is 100% casted as long as it continues the same story with no contradictions. So I am not going to view SM4 differently than TDK or MOS because its still a sequel.

[GreenKToo]

I wouldn't be so sure that Spiderman 4/5 or whatever the heck they are calling it is going to be a continuation of the same story arcs leftover from Spiderman 3 or with the same exact cast if the movie does happen. If they bring big action and fun, they should have no problem selling Superman, that is what sold Spiderman and Iron Man right?
I agree with that, big action and fun is the ticket. It's no skin off my back if they make M.O.S. more like S.R. or go a different direction, i.e. Spidey, I.M.
But if they hope to even approach what the Spidey/I.M. films did, then they better go balls to the wall action.

[Ita-KalEl]

At this point I don't know if SM4 will be 100% more successful than MOS.
IMO the public have seen almost everything of Spiderman: great sfxs, great battles, humor, three supervillains etc. while they still have to see Superma vs a supervillain.
The Superman franchise has more potential. They have only to use it properly.

[KBX]

At this point I don't know if SM4 will be 100% more successful than MOS.
IMO the public have seen almost everything of Spiderman: great sfxs, great battles, humor, three supervillains etc. while they still have to see Superma vs a supervillain.
The Superman franchise has more potential. They have only to use it properly.

MOS can be very successful and SM4 can be an OK movie, and I can still easily see SM4 bring in much more money than MOS. If its about the public already seeing what a particular character can do, Batman would have been done by now. Its not just about Superman vs. a Supervillain that will make people come and see this much. Its much more than that.

[Mostpowerful]

MOS can be very successful and SM4 can be an OK movie, and I can still easily see SM4 bring in much more money than MOS. If its about the public already seeing what a particular character can do, Batman would have been done by now. Its not just about Superman vs. a Supervillain that will make people come and see this much. Its much more than that.

NO. It really isn't. The masses just want to be entertained. Period. Most of them don't care about these characters the same way we 'fans' do. And The criticism I read and heard the most about SR was that Superman didn't punch anybody and that the movie wasn't as fun, and that it just needed more 'action.' Give them that, along with a good story with heart, and I don't see why MOS can't make it bigger. Routh was universally liked, so you got Superman, which is the main ingredient. Will that make it a 'better' movie for everybody, maybe not, but it will be much more comercial than what SR was, a good film, but with somewhat limited appeal. As long as the story is decent and done with dignity and respect for the character, I'm ok with it. At least I have SR, a Superman film I adore. Hopefully, they can make not only a great film, but also a very comercial and successful product.

Almost forget, and great marketing too. Lots of it. Good 'quality' one.

[The Guard]

Anyone who wants to see a man throw a punch over a plane rescue sequence should just be shot. And anyone who cannot see "excitement" other than the context of hitting people has issues. Be they fanboy, casual moviegoer, or critic.

[KobiKai]

Routh was universally liked, so you got Superman, which is the main ingredient.

Sorry but that's complete ********, Routh was a non entity thanks to Singers decision to not give him a speaking role (ok that's an exaggeration but pretty close). Truthfully on here is the only place i ever hear Routh or SR ever get mentioned, people have completely lost the plot.
I don't mean to be rude but if MOS is never made no one will care, this world doesn't need Superman.

The death of superman comic should of been his swan song, he can either evolve or die. You can say it's just my opinion but when the last time you heard anyone away from this board mention Superman?

[batman44]

Anyone who wants to see a man throw a punch over a plane rescue sequence should just be shot. And anyone who cannot see "excitement" other than the context of hitting people has issues. Be they fanboy, casual moviegoer, or critic.

That's abit extreme don't you think Guard? I believe you can have an amazing battle sequence that's everybit as exciting as the plane rescue.

[KobiKai]

Anyone who wants to see a man throw a punch over a plane rescue sequence should just be shot. And anyone who cannot see "excitement" other than the context of hitting people has issues. Be they fanboy, casual moviegoer, or critic.

The plane sequence for all the effects was dull, if that means i have issues then fine. Indiana Jones punching the sword fella will always be more memorable to the general public.

[BMM]

Sorry but that's complete ********, Routh was a non entity thanks to Singers decision to not give him a speaking role (ok that's an exaggeration but pretty close). Truthfully on here is the only place i ever hear Routh or SR ever get mentioned, people have completely lost the plot.
I don't mean to be rude but if MOS is never made no one will care, this world doesn't need Superman.

The death of superman comic should of been his swan song, he can either evolve or die. You can say it's just my opinion but when the last time you heard anyone away from this board mention Superman?

Why would you expect to hear about Routh or a two year old superhero movie anywhere else?

[KobiKai]

Why would you expect to hear about Routh or a two year old superhero movie anywhere else?

Normally you wouldn't but since Iron Man's release superhero movies have become popular again with people talking about Hulk, Iron Man (obviously) and most of all Batman. Away from here people are expecting TDK to be the big film of the year SH-wise anyway, even the possiblility of Thor has generated more discussion than Superman Man Of Steel.

[The Guard]

The plane sequence for all the effects was dull

???

That's abit extreme don't you think Guard? I believe you can have an amazing battle sequence that's everybit as exciting as the plane rescue.

Did I say otherwise? My point, is that certain people seem unable to discern "excitement" in a movie unless someone gets hit.

[TheComicbookKid]

Normally you wouldn't but since Iron Man's release superhero movies have become popular again with people talking about Hulk, Iron Man (obviously) and most of all Batman. Away from here people are expecting TDK to be the big film of the year SH-wise anyway, even the possiblility of Thor has generated more discussion than Superman Man Of Steel.

And the turds that were Spiderman 3 and X-3 have everyone in the real world talking about the sequels.:whatever: When stuff is announced people will talk. Good or Bad.

[bunk]

The plane sequence for all the effects was dull, if that means i have issues then fine. Indiana Jones punching the sword fella will always be more memorable to the general public.

Well, since Indy never rescued a plane full of people, I suppose we'll never really know.

[batman44]

???



Did I say otherwise? My point, is that certain people seem unable to discern "excitement" in a movie unless someone gets hit.

I see, my bad.

[wellsy]

Sorry but that's complete ********, Routh was a non entity thanks to Singers decision to not give him a speaking role (ok that's an exaggeration but pretty close). Truthfully on here is the only place i ever hear Routh or SR ever get mentioned, people have completely lost the plot.
I don't mean to be rude but if MOS is never made no one will care, this world doesn't need Superman.
Speak for yourself KobiKai. That's your opinion, and not a shred more important than mine. Period.

[Mostpowerful]

Speak for yourself KobiKai. That's your opinion, and not a shred more important than mine. Period.

It really is a waste of time trying to reason with some people. You show them proof, but they cannot or don't want to see. Bah, who cares, they can't stop the sun from shinning. :word: Thankfully, there is a real world out there.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Call me the biggest idiot in the world but I go to superhero movies to see the hero save people and to see battles with the villian within a good story. If other people go to see something else fine, but thats what attracts me to them. I say yawn to the mishandled Superman Returns. Ofcourse that is my opinion.

[dark_b]

Anyone who wants to see a man throw a punch over a plane rescue sequence should just be shot. And anyone who cannot see "excitement" other than the context of hitting people has issues. Be they fanboy, casual moviegoer, or critic.you should have both. in 2006 with a budget of 200 milions and only one big star(kevin spacey) you should have both. a plane sequence and a fight.
both. a plane scene is not enough. a fight si also not enough. a superman movie should have a big rescue where a lot of people are in a danger and a standard fight.

[dark_b]

MOS can be very successful and SM4 can be an OK movie, and I can still easily see SM4 bring in much more money than MOS. If its about the public already seeing what a particular character can do, Batman would have been done by now. Its not just about Superman vs. a Supervillain that will make people come and see this much. Its much more than that.i think for BO the most important thing with todays GP is the fun factor and action.
a nolan tape iron man movie wouldnt make so much money. i mean if IM was more serious it would make less money IMO:

[GreenKToo]

That's abit extreme don't you think Guard? I believe you can have an amazing battle sequence that's everybit as exciting as the plane rescue.
The plane rescue scene was great, but it's been done in two Superman films now.
IMHO, its time to up the anti in M.O.S. and show the public what the ''Super'' in Superman really stands for.

[nintendo nerd]

Normally you wouldn't but since Iron Man's release superhero movies have become popular again with people talking about Hulk, Iron Man (obviously) and most of all Batman. Away from here people are expecting TDK to be the big film of the year SH-wise anyway, even the possiblility of Thor has generated more discussion than Superman Man Of Steel.

Nobody outside this boards is talking about Hulk.

[superbaby]

i still believe Spidey 4 will do huge number because spidey is a top brand now. if you don't watch spidey, you are out.

[GreenKToo]

Nobody outside this boards is talking about Hulk.
I'm amazed by the lack of marketing for Hulk. I have a few friends that even didn't know a new one was coming out.

[GreenKToo]

I agree. Unless the movie is just absolutely horrible it's pretty much a given that Spidey 4 will do gold. The name alone guarantees that.
Spidey 3 wasn't the best and just look at it's B.O.

[El Payaso]

I agree. Unless the movie is just absolutely horrible it's pretty much a given that Spidey 4 will do gold. The name alone guarantees that.
Spidey 3 wasn't the best and just look at it's B.O.

I've always been one of the theory that BO doesn't reflect quality. Spiderman 3 sucked big time.

[GreenKToo]

I've always been one of the theory that BO doesn't reflect quality. Spiderman 3 sucked big time.
I agree, it did for me as well. Still, that didnt stop the G.A. from seeing it over and over.:(

[superbaby]

Nobody outside this boards is talking about Hulk.

Nobody outside this boards is talking about TDK either. i don't see any significant marketing either. :o

[dark_b]

Same here. Routh at least try to make Supes like he should be more than Clooney. Clooney was just plain terrible with his cheesy lines & smiling too much. Why the else would he kinda smile after telling Dick that Alfred is dying in "Batman & Robin"? You don't smile when someone so close to you as a child is dying. Stupid Joel Schmucker. :oldrazz:but it was the ''clooney money shot ''
'

[Ita-KalEl]

Nobody outside this boards is talking about Hulk.

This is the pure truth.
Fortunately the reboot mania will end soon.

[Showtime]

Nobody outside this boards is talking about TDK either. i don't see any significant marketing either. :o

I assume you're joking? :huh:

[The Guard]

The plane rescue scene was great, but it's been done in two Superman films now.

And never been done nearly as well. The Air Force one sequence in SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE simply doesn't compare to what happened in SUPERMAN RETURNS. Should Batman just not fight anymore because it's been done before?

IMHO, its time to up the anti in M.O.S. and show the public what the ''Super'' in Superman really stands for.

Because sacrificing his life to save the world...catching planes, lifting continents...that couldn't be indicitive of the "super", right?

[GreenKToo]

And never been done nearly as well. The Air Force one sequence in SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE simply doesn't compare to what happened in SUPERMAN RETURNS. Should Batman just not fight anymore because it's been done before?



Because sacrificing his life to save the world...catching planes, lifting continents...that couldn't be indicitive of the "super", right?
Well, I was actually talking about the helicopter scene in S:TM, not Air Force 1. But now that you mention it, that's three times we've seen an aircraft save by him.
There's nothing wrong with scenes like that, we just need to see more, things we've never seen him do on the big screen before.

[The Guard]

The helicopter scene doesn't compare either.

What haven't we seen him do before on some level, within reason? I thought SUPERMAN RETURNS brought a lot of that kind of "new action, new story" into play.

[GreenKToo]

The helicopter scene doesn't compare either.

What haven't we seen him do before on some level, within reason? I thought SUPERMAN RETURNS brought a lot of that kind of "new action, new story" into play.
The helicopter scene is my all time fav. Superman scene.Nothing screams Superman to me like that does.
As to what we need to see in the sequel, that's a good question. I would hope that whoever gets the job writing the script will come up with some really good ideas for something we havent seen before.

I've always wanted to see him lift a large ship up, I mean a really large ship. Something like an oil tanker or an aircraft carrier. But i'm sure some would say "not more lifting"

[phil]

It really is a waste of time trying to reason with some people. You show them proof, but they cannot or don't want to see. Bah, who cares, they can't stop the sun from shinning. :word: Thankfully, there is a real world out there.

Your unbelievable talking about people like that. Your the one that it's a waste of time trying to reason with, LOL My god do you think people are really this stupid? Cut it out, lol
What proof? What proof are you talking about? The fact that Routh and SR are an afterthought? The fact that the last Superman in a world where movies are pumped with technology and had a 200+ mill. budget and he's still an unknown?
Yes there is a real world out there, why don't you try living in it yourself instead of acting like you have screws loose and blaming the other side because they don't meat gaze over Routh like you do?????
Nice that you can say anything on the internet isn't it? :whatever:

[nintendo nerd]

Your unbelievable talking about people like that. Your the one that it's a waste of time trying to reason with, LOL My god do you think people are really this stupid? Cut it out, lol
What proof? What proof are you talking about? The fact that Routh and SR are an afterthought? The fact that the last Superman in a world where movies are pumped with technology and had a 200+ mill. budget and he's still an unknown?
Yes there is a real world out there, why don't you try living in it yourself instead of acting like you have screws loose and blaming the other side because they don't meat gaze over Routh like you do?????
Nice that you can say anything on the internet isn't it? :whatever:

Same can be said of you. You only bash Routh, like if you have a personal agenda against him. All of your posts are exactly the same. You should use the copy/paste option. That way you wouldn't have to write the same things over and over again. :o

[The Guard]

The helicopter scene is my all time fav. Superman scene.Nothing screams Superman to me like that does.

It's a great scene, well done. In 1970, the effects were cutting edge. But even if you look at objectively, it simply doesn't compare to the drama, the action, the intensity, the emotion, and everything that's happening in the plane rescue sequence. It just doesn't. Few scenes do, really.

As to what we need to see in the sequel, that's a good question. I would hope that whoever gets the job writing the script will come up with some really good ideas for something we havent seen before.

Myself, I want to see Braniac. A superpowered chase/fight sequence would be cool, but we've technically already seen that in SUPERMAN 2. Today's effects would make that work well, though. I've always wanted to see Intergang as well.

I've always wanted to see him lift a large ship up, I mean a really large ship. Something like an oil tanker or an aircraft carrier. But i'm sure some would say "not more lifting".

A la STAS? Yeah, that's always cool. I dunno, though. I thought the yacht was pretty damn big.

In terms of "feats of strength", I'd always wanted to see him push the moon back into orbit or something, but lifting New Krypton was enough to satisfy me in that regard.

[TheComicbookKid]

Now that JL is out of the way, I want to see Superman have to race around the world back to Metropolis trying to stop as many Brainiac drones as possible.

And I hope they use this music in one of the trailers.
vLO8JiZNRSM

[I Am The Knight]

In terms of "feats of strength", I'd always wanted to see him push the moon back into orbit or something, but lifting New Krypton was enough to satisfy me in that regard.

As long as he doesn't starts moving planets... :pal:

[phil]

Same can be said of you. You only bash Routh, like if you have a personal agenda against him. All of your posts are exactly the same. You should use the copy/paste option. That way you wouldn't have to write the same things over and over again. :o

Duh? Because he sucked as Superman, read above for the obvious reasons.:whatever: Isn't Routh the only Superman in the movie SR, who else am I suppose to bash? He's getting bashed for a reason.

[buggs0268]

Duh? Because he sucked as Superman, read above for the obvious reasons.:whatever: Isn't Routh the only Superman in the movie SR, who else am I suppose to bash? He's getting bashed for a reason.
These guys are funny aren't they. Bashing others for doing the same thing they are doing. Sigh. Some peoples children.

[GreenKToo]

It's a great scene, well done. In 1970, the effects were cutting edge. But even if you look at objectively, it simply doesn't compare to the drama, the action, the intensity, the emotion, and everything that's happening in the plane rescue sequence. It just doesn't. Few scenes do, really.



Myself, I want to see Braniac. A superpowered chase/fight sequence would be cool, but we've technically already seen that in SUPERMAN 2. Today's effects would make that work well, though. I've always wanted to see Intergang as well.



A la STAS? Yeah, that's always cool. I dunno, though. I thought the yacht was pretty damn big.

In terms of "feats of strength", I'd always wanted to see him push the moon back into orbit or something, but lifting New Krypton was enough to satisfy me in that regard.
Well, I guess we can agree to disagree on that one. The S:TM scene is the best one to me because it was the first appearance of Superman (for me) on the big screen. It also had the williams theme and the classic shirt rip. Thats just golden cinema there and a goosebump inducing moment for me.

I got more chills from that scene in S:TM than the one in S.R. even if it is older. I did very much like the scene in S.R. as well. Just not quite as much.

[nintendo nerd]

These guys are funny aren't they. Bashing others for doing the same thing they are doing. Sigh. Some peoples children.


Let me get this straight. You are calling some of us children? What about you? You put people that don't agree with you on your ignore list on a message board, like if we wree some kind of stalkers or threaten your like, just because we think different to you. Wait, I forgot another one. You are calling people children when you send private messages just to insult people. Yep. That's really mature, right?

Just a few weeks ago you were acting like a children, making fun to people that liked SR because you said MOS was dead, what do you have to say now?

[buggs0268]

Lets put it this way. After Superman came out in 1978, Chris Reeve was a World Wide star. Reeve was offered and turned down INdian Jones. He was offered a bunch of parts and turned them down. 3 months after the movie came out everyone knew who he was. It has been 2 years since SR came out. Does anyone besides Superhero fans know who Brandon Routh is? It isn't his fault. But, when Batman Begins came out Christian Bale was being offered parts and has been the start in quite a few movies in the short span that is between now and Batman Begins release. Hugh Jackaman had many parts between X-men 1 and 2. Marsden has been in 3 movies I believe so far. McGuire was in other movies after Spiderman 1 and was also allowed to produce a few movies as his star was so big. And so, where is Rouths movies? It isn't his fault. He was stuck in a Chick Flick masquerading as a superhero movie. Stupid Kumar has starred in more movies since SR than Routh.

[nintendo nerd]

Lets put it this way. After Superman came out in 1978, Chris Reeve was a World Wide star. Reeve was offered and turned down INdian Jones. He was offered a bunch of parts and turned them down. 3 months after the movie came out everyone knew who he was. It has been 2 years since SR came out. Does anyone besides Superhero fans know who Brandon Routh is? It isn't his fault. But, when Batman Begins came out Christian Bale was being offered parts and has been the start in quite a few movies in the short span that is between now and Batman Begins release. Hugh Jackaman had many parts between X-men 1 and 2. Marsden has been in 3 movies I believe so far. McGuire was in other movies after Spiderman 1 and was also allowed to produce a few movies as his star was so big. And so, where is Rouths movies? It isn't his fault. He was stuck in a Chick Flick masquerading as a superhero movie. Stupid Kumar has starred in more movies since SR than Routh.

Hopefully MOS will help him to improve his career. Yes, MOS. The movie you said was dead, remember?

By the way. You were still confident JL was going to happen. Guess you didn't read the new interview with Brody, who said it was dead. Looks like your predictions will fail again.

[bunk]

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree on that one. The S:TM scene is the best one to me because it was the first appearance of Superman (for me) on the big screen. It also had the williams theme and the classic shirt rip. Thats just golden cinema there and a goosebump inducing moment for me.

I got more chills from that scene in S:TM than the one in S.R. even if it is older. I did very much like the scene in S.R. as well. Just not quite as much.

Don't forget the pimp, that guy rocks!

[Nixon]

Lets put it this way. After Superman came out in 1978, Chris Reeve was a World Wide star. Reeve was offered and turned down INdian Jones. He was offered a bunch of parts and turned them down. 3 months after the movie came out everyone knew who he was.

Yes, as the guy that played Superman. The Man of Steel was the real star, not Reeve himself regardless of his skills as an actor. That's why, for all those parts Reeve was supposedly offered and turned down, he decided the best ones to take where Somewhere in Time and Street Smart.

[TheComicbookKid]

Yes, as the guy that played Superman. The Man of Steel was the real star, not Reeve himself regardless of his skills as an actor. That's why, for all those parts Reeve was supposedly offered and turned down, he decided the best ones to take where Somewhere in Time and Street Smart.

Dudes, just put Buggs on ignore if you dislike him so much. Bashing the memory of Reeve isn't going to make him less of the definitive Superman for some and whether or not MOS happens won't be decided on what you me or Buggs says.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I know it's going hurt some fans for me to say this but Chris Reeve was never a huge star. He was beloved as Superman and thats pretty much it. Not too bad a gig if you ask me.

[nintendo nerd]

I know it's going hurt some fans for me to say this but Chris Reeve was never a huge star. He was beloved as Superman and thats pretty much it. Not too bad a gig if you ask me.

Agreed. I also think he wasn't a great actor.

[Nixon]

Dudes, just put Buggs on ignore if you dislike him so much. Bashing the memory of Reeve isn't going to make him less of the definitive Superman for some and whether or not MOS happens won't be decided on what you me or Buggs says.

Being honest about the nature of Reeve's celebrity isn't bashing him and this isn't about buggs. Frankly, it's more insulting to Reeve to say he was a world wide celebrity being offered roles left and right and only decided on the abysmal Somewhere in Time and the so-so Street Smart.

I think it does Reeve more credit when we talk about the nature of his celebrity accurately and about how he was able to perservere and make his close identification with Superman a force for good where someone else might've surrendered themselves over to bitterness over being typecast.

[Superman-Prime]

The plane rescue scene was great, but it's been done in two Superman films now.

Ok, about the plane rescue scene....

The scene in Superman The Movie, I thought it was ok. I know it's from 70s. Could've a lot better.

I loved the scene in Superman Returns because it looked more realistic. Fantastic. Pretty much similar to Superman The Animated, "THE LAST SON OF KRYPTON, PART 3", execpt for the end of plane rescue scene.

Sorry but that's complete ********, Routh was a non entity thanks to Singers decision to not give him a speaking role (ok that's an exaggeration but pretty close). Truthfully on here is the only place i ever hear Routh or SR ever get mentioned, people have completely lost the plot.
I don't mean to be rude but if MOS is never made no one will care, this world doesn't need Superman.

So, you're saying that Brandon Routh sucked as Superman? Is that what you're saying?

Your unbelievable talking about people like that. Your the one that it's a waste of time trying to reason with, LOL My god do you think people are really this stupid? Cut it out, lol
What proof? What proof are you talking about? The fact that Routh and SR are an afterthought? The fact that the last Superman in a world where movies are pumped with technology and had a 200+ mill. budget and he's still an unknown?
Yes there is a real world out there, why don't you try living in it yourself instead of acting like you have screws loose and blaming the other side because they don't meat gaze over Routh like you do?????
Nice that you can say anything on the internet isn't it? :whatever:

Personally, you must have a sad life. Hmm.

Same can be said of you. You only bash Routh, like if you have a personal agenda against him. All of your posts are exactly the same. You should use the copy/paste option. That way you wouldn't have to write the same things over and over again. :o

Well said.

Duh? Because he sucked as Superman, read above for the obvious reasons.:whatever: Isn't Routh the only Superman in the movie SR, who else am I suppose to bash? He's getting bashed for a reason.

These guys are funny aren't they. Bashing others for doing the same thing they are doing. Sigh. Some peoples children.

phil and buggs are both the trolls of the internet. Really sad.

[Mostpowerful]

Yes there is a real world out there, why don't you try living in it yourself instead of acting like you have screws loose and blaming the other side because they don't meat gaze over Routh like you do?????
Nice that you can say anything on the internet isn't it? :whatever:

Lalalalala........yawn. You can't quit me, don't you? :D

It's a great scene, well done. In 1970, the effects were cutting edge. But even if you look at objectively, it simply doesn't compare to the drama, the action, the intensity, the emotion, and everything that's happening in the plane rescue sequence. It just doesn't. Few scenes do, really.

In terms of "feats of strength", I'd always wanted to see him push the moon back into orbit or something, but lifting New Krypton was enough to satisfy me in that regard.

Same here. I think it's the nostalgia factor, maybe.



Agreed. I also think he wasn't a great actor.

Agreed. He made a great Superman and was a solid actor, but yeah.


Being honest about the nature of Reeve's celebrity isn't bashing him and this isn't about buggs. Frankly, it's more insulting to Reeve to say he was a world wide celebrity being offered roles left and right and only decided on the abysmal Somewhere in Time and the so-so Street Smart.

I think it does Reeve more credit when we talk about the nature of his celebrity accurately and about how he was able to perservere and make his close identification with Superman a force for good where someone else might've surrendered themselves over to bitterness over being typecast.

Well said.

[KobiKai]

So, you're saying that Brandon Routh sucked as Superman? Is that what you're saying?

No i'm not saying he sucked because he was never given the chance to show what he was capable of thanks to Singers mute script. Honestly though he will be the George Lazenby of the Superman world, no one will ever know if he could of pulled it off

[Nixon]

I know he can pull it off because, well, I've seen him do it.

[KobiKai]

I know he can pull it off because, well, I've seen him do it.

Oi Nixon! keep your slanderous accusations to yourself ;)

[Mikelus]

Agreed. I also think he wasn't a great actor.

Y Routh menos todavía, así que nada, Reeve es considerado muy superior por la inmensa mayoría de los fans.

Saludos

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Agreed. I also think he wasn't a great actor.He wasn't and he didn't need to be to play Superman, it wasn't like it was oscar winning role.

[buggs0268]

Yes, as the guy that played Superman. The Man of Steel was the real star, not Reeve himself regardless of his skills as an actor. That's why, for all those parts Reeve was supposedly offered and turned down, he decided the best ones to take where Somewhere in Time and Street Smart.
Oh you guys. Look, the fact was, he was offereed huge roles after Superman that he himself turned down.

Was offered Richard Gere (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000152/)'s role in Pretty Woman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100405/) (1990). When he went in to do a reading, he was not given actress Julia Roberts (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000210/) to read with, but the casting director, giving a half hearted effort at best. Reeve felt this was extremely unprofessional and chose not to do the film.

It is a fact that he was offered Indiana Jones but turned it down, I believe to do theater. The fact is, he was offered those big roles. You don't get offered big roles unless you are considered box office draw. The fact that he turned them down is irrelevant. He was offered them in the first place. Routh has not been offered any big roles, and the ones he was offered where before SR came out and did what it did in the box office. After that, like many up and coming stars whose first movies fail at the BO, he was no longer offered them. So he didn't make a dent and was not considered a Box office draw.

He did somewhere in time because he loved the story and he turned down another high profile project he was being offered to do it.

Street Smart was a deal with Canon for him doing Superman 4. If he did Superman 4, they would finance Street Smarts. It was a chance for him to play a different role. A lot of times film actors do not get to break out of the mold that they are accepted in, and sometimes studios wont let them either. Stallone could not get a Drama with no action in the mid 80's to save his life. The studios would not greenlight anything. An action film, 2 seconds there was a greenlight. But not a drama. That is how a lot of movies come about. Danny Glover did Predator 2 so that Fox would finance a smaller film that he wanted to do . It is called "a deal" That is how a lot of movies happen.

[Maze]

Reeve was offered Romancing the stone, not Indianna Jones.

[buggs0268]

OH s**t that is right. I thought I read at one point he was offered Indy too.

[GarudA]

He turned down big paychecks to appear in small films with directors like Sydney Lumet or James Ivory, whom he greatly respected and worked with in The Bostonians and The Remains of the Day. But he has always preferred the stage, considering it an actor's greatest test.

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/movies.php?topic=chris-reeve

[GarudA]

All that matter's is what Reeve did as Superman. In my opinion he was the definitive Superman, he had the Perfect look and acted the part just as well. They even tried imitate him SR but what a let down.

[nintendo nerd]

All that matter's is what Reeve did as Superman. In my opinion he was the definitive Superman, he had the Perfect look and acted the part just as well. They even tried imitate him SR but what a let down.

Most people think Routh was great as Superman.

[nintendo nerd]

Y Routh menos todavía, así que nada, Reeve es considerado muy superior por la inmensa mayoría de los fans.

Saludos

No olvides que Reeve estuvo en una de las mejoras escuelas de actuacion en EU. Julliard. Rouh no tuvo esa oportunidad. Y sin embargo, para mi. fue mejor que Reeve. Cada quien tiene gustos distintos.

Saludos.

[nintendo nerd]

OH s**t that is right. I thought I read at one point he was offered Indy too.

Tom Selleck was offered Indy.

[nintendo nerd]

Oh you guys. Look, the fact was, he was offereed huge roles after Superman that he himself turned down.

Was offered Richard Gere (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000152/)'s role in Pretty Woman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100405/) (1990). When he went in to do a reading, he was not given actress Julia Roberts (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000210/) to read with, but the casting director, giving a half hearted effort at best. Reeve felt this was extremely unprofessional and chose not to do the film.

It is a fact that he was offered Indiana Jones but turned it down, I believe to do theater. The fact is, he was offered those big roles. You don't get offered big roles unless you are considered box office draw. The fact that he turned them down is irrelevant. He was offered them in the first place. Routh has not been offered any big roles, and the ones he was offered where before SR came out and did what it did in the box office. After that, like many up and coming stars whose first movies fail at the BO, he was no longer offered them. So he didn't make a dent and was not considered a Box office draw.

He did somewhere in time because he loved the story and he turned down another high profile project he was being offered to do it.

Street Smart was a deal with Canon for him doing Superman 4. If he did Superman 4, they would finance Street Smarts. It was a chance for him to play a different role. A lot of times film actors do not get to break out of the mold that they are accepted in, and sometimes studios wont let them either. Stallone could not get a Drama with no action in the mid 80's to save his life. The studios would not greenlight anything. An action film, 2 seconds there was a greenlight. But not a drama. That is how a lot of movies come about. Danny Glover did Predator 2 so that Fox would finance a smaller film that he wanted to do . It is called "a deal" That is how a lot of movies happen.

Lol. Pretty woman was 12 years after STM and Street Smart was nine years after STM. SR was less than 2 years ago and you are crtiticizing his career. Guess you haven't heard about Dylan Dog.

[phil]

Most people think Routh was great as Superman.

No, just a small group on the internet that live in cyberspace 24/7 where you can make up anything and make yourself actually believe it.

[nintendo nerd]

No, just a small group on the internet that live in cyberspace 24/7 where you can make up anything and make yourself actually believe it.

When you're talking about that small group of people on the Internet you're talking only about yourself, right?

[Dark_Lord]

No, just a small group on the internet that live in cyberspace 24/7 where you can make up anything and make yourself actually believe it.

A small group on the internet that live in cyberspace 24/7? OK. I know you do not like Routh and I respect that, but where do you get these? Seriously. Because none of your friends, or whatever, didn't like Routh, you think only some people posting at forums did?

I've spoken with a lot of people about SR, including people I hadn't met before, and the first thing they would all mention, whether they liked the movie or not, was that Routh was awesome as Superman.

I'm not saying that everyone likes him, but because you don't, you make it seem like no one else does, or maybe you're trying to convince yourself.

[phil]

No, Singer & Routh diehards. I don't disrespect people by saying anything and treating people like they were born yesterday, there are real people behind these computers that deserve common courtesy & respect.
There are SR supporters that don't go that far that I like very much and would help them any way I possibly could if needed. But the ones who will say anything and act like the people speaking the truth are doing the same are the problem.
SR scraped for months and months to reach 200 domestic only to get a HUGE increase the last days to reach the 200????? That box office had a big imax attached more than other movies because it's Superman, and how much of that box office was just because it was Superman returning after a few decades with modern technology? If it was well received the box office would have crushed what it did instead of not giving it a good word of mouth. Most people who are not big fans and hang out on the internet went to see it because it was Superman. And you can also factor in how a lot of the crying SR fans put the word out to try and see it as much as possible, over and over to help the box office and find any way around voting more than once for the online polls.

[phil]

A small group on the internet that live in cyberspace 24/7? OK. I know you do not like Routh and I respect that, but where do you get these? Seriously. Because none of your friends, or whatever, didn't like Routh, you think only some people posting at forums did?

I've spoken with a lot of people about SR, including people I hadn't met before, and the first thing they would all mention, whether they liked the movie or not, was that Routh was awesome as Superman.

I'm not saying that everyone likes him, but because you don't, you make it seem like no one else does, or maybe you're trying to convince yourself.

Only the acting part was his fault, what he was given wasn't. Awesome Superman? Please, with all due respect to you thats exactly what I'm talking about, that Superman was subpar at very best.

[phil]

When there is big budget Superman movie people will go no matter what...but if it sucks it won't do well in the long run. That box office has a lot to do with it just being Superman period.

[Antonello Blueberry]

No, Singer & Routh diehards.
And the Empire magazine people who know a thing or two about movies.
And those at Saturn Award, too.

[phil]

Also I wasn't opposed to Routh before I saw his very bad acting skills. I think he could look very good as Superman with his own body without padding. He just needs more dedication with working out to get that body so he can look like he was when he was all pumped up while working out like he did in those pics. (without being in the middle of working out) Ii mean the pics the Routh diehards tried to use as proof ignoring the facts about the photos acting like he wasn't flexing because of the workout. Then the look they gave him totally worked against him with his hair and pathetic costume. He could have at least looked the part which again is not all his fault. But it doesn't matter who's fault it is, it was the end product that wasn't inspiring at all. To the GP eyecandy is a big factor in these superhero movies, how could it not be.

[phil]

And the Empire magazine people who know a thing or two about movies.
And those at Saturn Award, too.

LOL, yeah sure....Thats the proof we need

[Antonello Blueberry]

LOL, yeah sure....Thats the proof we need
You know I tend to value the opinion of the journalists of one of the most read movie magazines in the world more than the opinion of an internet fanboy.

[Showtime]

Oh Boy...

[phil]

You know I tend to value the opinion of the journalists of one of the most read movie magazines in the world more than the opinion of an internet fanboy.

Sorry, your right, what they say goes and the Saturn Awards say it all as well. My bad. The writers in those magazines have brains that are far more advanced in the opinion section of the brian then your average movie audience. Thank you for clearing things up.
Sorry but I gotta leave this intelligent conversation and head out to my baseball game. I know according to some people I have no life because I don't like Singer's masterpiece but I'm going to go sit in the corner of the dougout, refuse to eat the ball up at shortstop all day, strike out instead of knocking the cover off the ball and not talk to a single person because I have no life outside superhero message boards, peace out:yay:

[Antonello Blueberry]

Sorry but I gotta leave this intelligent conversation and head out to my baseball game. I know according to some people I have no life because I don't like Singer's masterpiece but I'm going to go sit in the corner of the dougout, refuse to eat the ball up at shortstop all day, strike out instead of knocking the cover off the ball and not talk to a single person because I have no life outside superhero message boards, peace out:yay:
Do people still play baseball? I thought it was as dead as bell-bottom trousers.

[Showtime]

Bell Bottom Trousers are dead?

[Dark_Lord]

Only the acting part was his fault, what he was given wasn't. Awesome Superman? Please, with all due respect to you thats exactly what I'm talking about, that Superman was subpar at very best.

That's your OPINION. People have different opinions, in case you haven't noticed. Saying Routh sucked, over and over again, doesn't make it a fact. And I'm gonna stop here, because there's no point.

[Mr. Socko]

All that matter's is what Reeve did as Superman. In my opinion he was the definitive Superman, he had the Perfect look and acted the part just as well. They even tried imitate him SR but what a let down.

I don't think he was imitated, just very similar. To date, I agree Reeve is still the best Superman we've seen on screen. I thought Brandon was great too, but not as good as Reeve. He had the potential, hopefully it's capitalized upon in the sequel.

[Mr. Socko]

I know it's going hurt some fans for me to say this but Chris Reeve was never a huge star. He was beloved as Superman and thats pretty much it. Not too bad a gig if you ask me.

As you followed up with, "that's pretty much it" isn't something relatively small or obscure.

Bela Lugosi is beloved as Dracula and thats pretty much it. Yet he is an icon across all of North America and there isn't a single person in this country who couldn't recognize his face. Lugosi being known as Dracula or Reeve being known as Superman may be "pretty much it" but it is also more than most could possibly imagine.

[Mostpowerful]

No olvides que Reeve estuvo en una de las mejoras escuelas de actuacion en EU. Julliard. Rouh no tuvo esa oportunidad. Y sin embargo, para mi. fue mejor Reeve. Cada quien tiene gustos distintos.

Saludos.

Quieres decir que para ti Routh fure mejor que Reeve, verdad? :yay: Para mi tambien.

A small group on the internet that live in cyberspace 24/7? OK. I know you do not like Routh and I respect that, but where do you get these? Seriously. Because none of your friends, or whatever, didn't like Routh, you think only some people posting at forums did?

I've spoken with a lot of people about SR, including people I hadn't met before, and the first thing they would all mention, whether they liked the movie or not, was that Routh was awesome as Superman.

I'm not saying that everyone likes him, but because you don't, you make it seem like no one else does, or maybe you're trying to convince yourself.

Same here, that's why I only laugh when Phil comes here bashing Routh. He can't stand that lots of people, critics, fans and the mainstream, actually enjoyed Routh as Superman. :oldrazz: And we all know why...

And the Empire magazine people who know a thing or two about movies.
And those at Saturn Award, too.

Yup. And all the people who read Total Film as well. Routh wasn't named Best New Comer and Breakout Star of the year by those publications, where many thousands of people voted, by coincidence. He was an inspired choice for Superman. That's the general consensus, and WB knows it..

[Mostpowerful]

You know I tend to value the opinion of the journalists of one of the most read movie magazines in the world more than the opinion of an internet fanboy.

:grin: Yeah, me too.

[GreenKToo]

I have to agree. Reeve was the best Superman ever IMHo. Routh was good as well, just not as good.
Maybe if singer allows him to make the role his own next time my opinion will change on that.
No more Donner lines please. Let us see what he can do with some new stuff.

[Mostpowerful]

I don't think he was imitated, just very similar. To date, I agree Reeve is still the best Superman we've seen on screen. I thought Brandon was great too, but not as good as Reeve. He had the potential, hopefully it's capitalized upon in the sequel.

I hope so too. To me, both men did great in the role. Both fulfill my fantasy of watching Superman in the flesh. The magic of Routh and Reeve for me and many, is that they both perfectly inhabit and embody this character, regardless if they were/are great actors or not. They just had/have it, and that's very hard to find, IMO.

I think Reeve was a very solid actor, but in my opinion he made the mistake of turning down some very juicy roles, such as American Gigolo. And on Routh, we still haven't seen enough of him to say how good he can be, or not. That's why I can't wait to see him in more movies. I really loved what he did in SR and believe he has real talent and potential. Hopefully, he'll have plenty of opportunities to show more of his acting skills. I can't wait to see what he does in 'Fear Itself' next month! :woot:

[I Am The Knight]

No, just a small group on the internet that live in cyberspace 24/7 where you can make up anything and make yourself actually believe it.

So, I take it you have been on cyberspace 24/7 to have been a witness to that? Or are you just talking out of your arse??

The writers in those magazines have brains that are far more advanced in the opinion section of the brian then your average movie audience. Thank you for clearing things up.

Um, normally yes. :huh:

[Mikelus]

Quieres decir que para ti Routh fure mejor que Reeve, verdad? :yay: Para mi tambien.


¡Qué bien, hablas español! ;)

Es una cuestión de gustos, pero me gustaría saber porque te gusta más Brandon, yo lo encontré soso, seco, no tiene el carisma, ni la gran presencia de CR.

[El Payaso]

Mikelus también habla español? :D

[DavidTyler]

Yes, as the guy that played Superman. The Man of Steel was the real star, not Reeve himself regardless of his skills as an actor. That's why, for all those parts Reeve was supposedly offered and turned down, he decided the best ones to take where Somewhere in Time and Street Smart.



1995 - Speechless
1993 - The Remains of the Day
1992 - Noises Off... (based on the great stage play of the same name)
1987 - Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
1987 - Switching Channels
1984 - The Bostonians
1983 - Superman III
1982 - Monsignor
1982 - Deathtrap (a great movie and a great part opposite Michael Cain)
1980 - Superman II
1980 - Somewhere in Time
1978 - Superman


Not listed in my search were some lessor films like the remake of 'children of the damned and the one with Burt Reynolds.

Quite frankly, it looks like Chris picked roles he thought would be interesting over roles he thought would bring in fame and fortune with the exception of a few clinkers.

[Mikelus]

Mikelus también habla español? :D

Sí, ya veo que somos unos cuantos. :woot:

¡Y viva César Romero, El Guasón!

[El Payaso]

Sí, ya veo que somos unos cuantos. :woot:

¡Y viva César Romero, El Guasón!

Ahí dices que eres de Francia. O al menos que estás allá.

Pero, ¿de dónde eres originariamente?

[batman44]

Ron Burgundy: "Listen, I don't speak spanish"

[mojo-x]

Anyone who wants to see a man throw a punch over a plane rescue sequence should just be shot. And anyone who cannot see "excitement" other than the context of hitting people has issues. Be they fanboy, casual moviegoer, or critic.

And anyone who makes death threats just because they do not see a movie in the same light as you did should be banned. I think you are the one with issues. It is just a movie and not a very good one IMO.

[I Am The Knight]

And anyone who makes death threats just because they do not see a movie in the same light as you did should be banned. I think you are the one with issues. It is just a movie and not a very good one IMO.

LOL, he is not making death threats :huh: Don't be crazy.

And honestly, I agree with him. :o

[Mostpowerful]

¡Qué bien, hablas español! ;)

Es una cuestión de gustos, pero me gustaría saber porque te gusta más Brandon, yo lo encontré soso, seco, no tiene el carisma, ni la gran presencia de CR.

Hey! Como estas? Para mi Brandon es Superman encarnado. Nunca pense que alguien podria hacerme sentir lo que Chris me hizo sentir de pequenita cuando vi sus peliculas por primera vez, pero cuando Brandon (en SR) entra al avion despues de rescatarlo y Lois lo ve por primera vez despues de anos............................:wow: Yo no lo podia creer... Yo no vi a un actor, yo vi a Superman! Y Brandon no necesitaba ni hablar, pero cuando hablo, yo apenas podia creer lo perfecta que era su voz. Brandon habita el personaje en una manera maravillosa, y me hace creer que un hombre puede volar, y tambien que Superman tiene alma.

Por eso me gusta Brandon. :word:

[bunk]

Bwah ha ha! The Guard is making death threats! People will say anything...

[The Guard]

And anyone who makes death threats just because they do not see a movie in the same light as you did should be banned. I think you are the one with issues. It is just a movie and not a very good one IMO.

(Falls over laughing)

I see we are unfamiliar with "context".

[Mikelus]

Hey! Como estas? Para mi Brandon es Superman encarnado. Nunca pense que alguien podria hacerme sentir lo que Chris me hizo sentir de pequenita cuando vi sus peliculas por primera vez, pero cuando Brandon (en SR) entra al avion despues de rescatarlo y Lois lo ve por primera vez despues de anos............................:wow: Yo no lo podia creer... Yo no vi a un actor, yo vi a Superman! Y Brandon no necesitaba ni hablar, pero cuando hablo, yo apenas podia creer lo perfecta que era su voz. Brandon habita el personaje en una manera maravillosa, y me hace creer que un hombre puede volar, y tambien que Superman tiene alma.

Por eso me gusta Brandon. :word:

Gracias por la respuesta guapa, muy bonita tu pasión por Superman.

Saludos ;)

[DavidTyler]

(Falls over laughing)

I see we are unfamiliar with "context".

context meaning you were speaking metaphorically?

Really, you would have been better off replying that you didn't mean it literally than to claim within context.

'He licked her heel.' by itself is a questionable statement. In context would be along the lines of 'After sucking the snake venom from her ankle, he licked her heel to use the saliva as a natural anti bacterial agent.'

Saying someone 'should be shot' over their preference of what they would choose to see in a film may be a bit 'young' but no one here should be thinking it was meant literally. C'mon. You may dislike Guard but I don't think any of us are losing sleep thinking he's waiting for us in the bushes.

[X-Maniac]

And the Empire magazine people who know a thing or two about movies.
And those at Saturn Award, too.

That's a poor argument, as though we must all kneel before Empire magazine's opinion. Empire has its tongue up certain studios' cracks and crevices, it certainly isn't impartial.

Empire is just a magazine, with its own biases and subjective views.

Empire called Iron Man a 'disappointment', giving it three stars (though the Australian edition of Empire gave it four stars).

Reviews often vary wildly and you shouldn't be so presumptuous as to say one magazine's review is definitive.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That's a poor argument, as though we must all kneel before Empire magazine's opinion. Empire has its tongue up certain studios' cracks and crevices, it certainly isn't impartial.

Empire is just a magazine, with its own biases and subjective views.

Empire called Iron Man a 'disappointment', giving it three stars (though the Australian edition of Empire gave it four stars).

Reviews often vary wildly and you shouldn't be so presumptuous as to say one magazine's review is definitive.

Empire didnt say IM was a dissapointment, they just said it suffers from origin movie syndrome, and i think Empire's IM review was spot on, IM was good, but not great and IMO no were near as good as some people make out.

As for the bolded part, i would love to see your evidence.

[mojo-x]

Any critic that gave SR a review that was higher then average means to me they are either on the studios pay roll or what they considered makes a good movie is completely different form what I look for in a movie. Either way I will not trust that critic again.
I did not take the “should be shot” literally I was just trying to point out that for some one to make a commit like that over a movie showed a lack of maturity.

[Showtime]

Any critic that gave SR a review that was higher then average means to me they are either on the studios pay roll or what they considered makes a good movie is completely different form what I look for in a movie. Either way I will not trust that critic again.
I did not take the “should be shot” literally I was just trying to point out that for some one to make a commit like that over a movie showed a lack of maturity.

So you're saying that nobody possibly could have gave the movie a good review because you didn't like it? :huh:

[Antonello Blueberry]

Any critic that gave SR a review that was higher then average means to me they are either on the studios pay roll or what they considered makes a good movie is completely different form what I look for in a movie. Either way I will not trust that critic again.
I did not take the “should be shot” literally I was just trying to point out that for some one to make a commit like that over a movie showed a lack of maturity.
So you won't trust again 77% of the movie critics (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/)?

[mojo-x]

No what I am saying is if some one gave the movie a good review then they have completely different taste in movies so there reviews would be irrelevant to me. For an example if some ones favorite band is the Backstreet Boys then I most likely will not care what they think of the last Lamb Of God CD.

[biolumen]

If anything, Routh is keeping busy. Back in early May, Variety announced that Routh had signed on to star in 'Dead Of Night', an adaptation of the Dylan Dog comicbook series.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117985250.html?categoryid=1238&cs=1

It's also now reported that Routh has been cast in the lead role of the ensemble comedy 'Table For Three', scheduled for theatrical release later this year.

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20080527_superman_gets_tabled.html

Superman gets Tabled

Date : May 27, 2008 Writer : "Caffeinated" Clint Morris

Rather than sit around twiddling his thumbs at the Lucky Strike Bar waiting for that sequel to get off the ground, ‘Superman’ Brandon Routh has flown into another project – albeit a slightly less exciting (and no doubt expensive) one than the long-gestating “Superman Returns” sequel (which they say will happen sometime next year).

According to Variety, Routh, who also appears in the forthcoming “The Informants”, has joined writer/director Michael Samonek’s “Table for Three”, an ensemble comedy for Starz, about a suddenly single young man who invites a "perfect couple" to share his large apartment, only to see them completely disrupt his life when they insert themselves into his new romance.

Routh has the lead role while Jesse Bradford ("W") and Sophia Bush ("One Tree Hill") portray the couple. Jennifer Morrison ("House"), Johnny Galecki ("The Big Bang Theory") and Lisa Lapira ("Ugly Betty") co-star.

[Nightmare]

Sí, ya veo que somos unos cuantos. :woot:

¡Y viva César Romero, El Guasón!

Orale vato loco por vida ese

[Ita-KalEl]

If anything, Routh is keeping busy. Back in early May, Variety announced that Routh had signed on to star in 'Dead Of Night', an adaptation of the Dylan Dog comicbook series.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117985250.html?categoryid=1238&cs=1

It's also now reported that Routh has been cast in the lead role of the ensemble comedy 'Table For Three', scheduled for theatrical release later this year.

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20080527_superman_gets_tabled.html

I remember when the haters said that the fact that Routh had not any other important role proved that SR was a failure.

[Nightmare]

Dead of Night??? Sounds like a zombie flick!!

[Antonello Blueberry]

Dead of Night??? Sounds like a zombie flick!!
It is.

[nintendo nerd]

So Routh got another role. Good for him. But I want to see him as Superman at least one more time. Showtime, please tell me there's still hope for MOS, I'm not so sure now with Routh getting other roles.

[FilmNerdJamie]

So Routh got another role. Good for him. But I want to see him as Superman at least one more time. Showtime, please tell me there's still hope for MOS, I'm not so sure now with Routh getting other roles.

Folks, if you'll remember Hugh Jackman was juggling God-knows how many films back in 2006 (i.e. X-Men: The Last Stand, The Prestige, The Fountain and Scoop plus voice-over work for Happy Feet and Flushed Away). Routh can pull off 2 films before TMOS.

And Table for Three is supposed to be a fast shoot with it opening at the end of this year.

This won't effect the sequel...

[Showtime]

It is a project for Starz, so I wouldn't worry to much about it interfering.

[Superark]

I'm happy to see Routh getting more roles. It gives him a little bit more practice and experience with his acting and can only help if MOS gets made.

[larryfilmmaker]

He needs to read a few more comics involving Batman and Superman I think.

I think just the opposite. I think if you read too many comics you can completely lose touch with what does or doesn't work storywise. They FORCE characters into situations that don't make a lot of sense just to sell issues or make interesting covers.

I don't care who anybody's favorite characters are, I don't want to hear a nerd rant or any crap like that. The fact of the matter is that we're talking about a godlike hero against a guy in a bat costume. Take away prejudice, lop sided writing, kryptonite or prep time rants, or playing favorites. It doesn't work.

[bunk]

I think I was referring specifically to Routh, and him not having a real strong grasp on the Superman/Batman dynamic.

[larryfilmmaker]

Yeah but how can anybody truly have a good grasp on the Superman (or any hero) "dynamic"? The characters are 50 - 70 years old, with incarnations we'll never see, experience, or understand. It's like Mark Hamill once said... the "purists" think Batman should be a lone vampire-like character in the shadows with no friends dressed in all black. What they don't understand is that that is ONE version of Batman, and it's not even the most iconic. It's just the one they grew up with or chose. My point is, characters like these aren't by-the-book heroes. They are myths, open to interpretation. There is no one set way of viewing them. If a writer has Lois and Clark go their own separate ways, he's not breaking the law. If they have a kid, it's not blasphemy. Maybe Routh's view of Superman is different from our own. So what?

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah but how can anybody truly have a good grasp on the Superman (or any hero) "dynamic"? The characters are 50 - 70 years old, with incarnations we'll never see, experience, or understand. It's like Mark Hamill once said... the "purists" think Batman should be a lone vampire-like character in the shadows with no friends dressed in all black. What they don't understand is that that is ONE version of Batman, and it's not even the most iconic. It's just the one they grew up with or chose. My point is, characters like these aren't by-the-book heroes. They are myths, open to interpretation. There is no one set way of viewing them. If a writer has Lois and Clark go their own separate ways, he's not breaking the law. If they have a kid, it's not blasphemy. Maybe Routh's view of Superman is different from our own. So what?

He gets it. :cwink: Great quote.

[SuperDaniel]

It`s obviously that some interpretations are better than others. For example, POST-CRISIS LUTHOR or even PRE-CRISIS LUTHOR is better than Donner`s stupid campy bafoon. They should pick what is best from each era and make a great story with that. This is common sense.

Singer only picked STM as the basis for the story and that is my problem.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Double post.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah but how can anybody truly have a good grasp on the Superman (or any hero) "dynamic"? The characters are 50 - 70 years old, with incarnations we'll never see, experience, or understand. It's like Mark Hamill once said... the "purists" think Batman should be a lone vampire-like character in the shadows with no friends dressed in all black. What they don't understand is that that is ONE version of Batman, and it's not even the most iconic. It's just the one they grew up with or chose. My point is, characters like these aren't by-the-book heroes. They are myths, open to interpretation. There is no one set way of viewing them. If a writer has Lois and Clark go their own separate ways, he's not breaking the law. If they have a kid, it's not blasphemy. Maybe Routh's view of Superman is different from our own. So what?

May I say what an amazing post, a few people on this board need to read this thoroughly, from both sides of the coin.

:up: Awesome post.

[Mostpowerful]

May I say what an amazing post, a few people on this board need to read this thoroughly, from both sides of the coin.

:up: Awesome post.

Yep. :up:

[mojo-x]

Yeah but how can anybody truly have a good grasp on the Superman (or any hero) "dynamic"? The characters are 50 - 70 years old, with incarnations we'll never see, experience, or understand. It's like Mark Hamill once said... the "purists" think Batman should be a lone vampire-like character in the shadows with no friends dressed in all black. What they don't understand is that that is ONE version of Batman, and it's not even the most iconic. It's just the one they grew up with or chose. My point is, characters like these aren't by-the-book heroes. They are myths, open to interpretation. There is no one set way of viewing them. If a writer has Lois and Clark go their own separate ways, he's not breaking the law. If they have a kid, it's not blasphemy. Maybe Routh's view of Superman is different from our own. So what?

So what? Well for one you mention how there are many different versions of a comic book characters and I agree, but one of my main complaints is that it was like the only version they saw was the one in the first 2 movies. The other thing is it not just him having a kid but more how he dealt with the situation that was blasphemy.

[mego joe]

Yeah but how can anybody truly have a good grasp on the Superman (or any hero) "dynamic"? The characters are 50 - 70 years old, with incarnations we'll never see, experience, or understand. It's like Mark Hamill once said... the "purists" think Batman should be a lone vampire-like character in the shadows with no friends dressed in all black. What they don't understand is that that is ONE version of Batman, and it's not even the most iconic. It's just the one they grew up with or chose. My point is, characters like these aren't by-the-book heroes. They are myths, open to interpretation. There is no one set way of viewing them. If a writer has Lois and Clark go their own separate ways, he's not breaking the law. If they have a kid, it's not blasphemy. Maybe Routh's view of Superman is different from our own. So what?

THere are things that modulate and there are things that don't. There are things that feel right and things that don't- all based on the multitude of incarnations of comic characters.

In the case of SR- Baby daddy SUperman is wrong. There's no way around it.

[kamphausd1]

I also would love to see Lexcorp come into fruition with this sequel or the next sequel.
You and me both pal, but I really don't see how that can happen in this continuity. I'm sure Spacey could play the billionaire mogul version of Luthor in his sleep though, and I know some silver age purists like Mark Waid will never like that take on the character, but it's always been my favorite version of Luthor. But I'd bet my bottom dollar that Singer hasn't ever even heard of Lexcorp.

[Mostpowerful]

A new video where Brandon is having dinner at The Ivy,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xe3QkEPewiM




Brandon is so gracious and kind. He really made quite an impression on people with SR. I Want to see him in the role again. WB??!

[FilmNerdJamie]

Also worth noting that Gil Adler (one of the key-producers on Superman Returns) is there with Routh. And what is currently slated for Adler next? The Man of Steel.

Interesting.

[Showtime]

Also worth noting that Gil Adler (one of the key-producers on Superman Returns) is there with Routh. And what is currently slated for Adler next? The Man of Steel.

Interesting.

That is pretty curious, the only movie he has on his docket to produce besides MOS is a film called Sleeping Beauty, I don't know the status.

[Nixon]

Nice find Mostpowerful and good eye Jamie! I totally wouldn't have caught that.

Interesting indeed.

[bunk]

Yeah but how can anybody truly have a good grasp on the Superman (or any hero) "dynamic"? The characters are 50 - 70 years old, with incarnations we'll never see, experience, or understand. It's like Mark Hamill once said... the "purists" think Batman should be a lone vampire-like character in the shadows with no friends dressed in all black. What they don't understand is that that is ONE version of Batman, and it's not even the most iconic. It's just the one they grew up with or chose. My point is, characters like these aren't by-the-book heroes. They are myths, open to interpretation. There is no one set way of viewing them. If a writer has Lois and Clark go their own separate ways, he's not breaking the law. If they have a kid, it's not blasphemy. Maybe Routh's view of Superman is different from our own. So what?

Routh said the two should never fight. I don't get the sense it's a personal preference, rather a bit of ignorance of the characters and how they've been portrayed together for the last couple of decades. He then seemed to indicate he would be alright with the idea, simply because the fans want it without really understanding why they do.

[Mostpowerful]

Also worth noting that Gil Adler (one of the key-producers on Superman Returns) is there with Routh. And what is currently slated for Adler next? The Man of Steel.

Interesting.

I did notice him but forgot to say something about it, lol. I was so busy praising Routhe, hehe. :o :woot:


Nice find Mostpowerful and good eye Jamie! I totally wouldn't have caught that.

Interesting indeed.

Thanks. :cwink:

[dark_b]

Also worth noting that Gil Adler (one of the key-producers on Superman Returns) is there with Routh. And what is currently slated for Adler next? The Man of Steel.

Interesting.yes .
oh i hope they talked a little about the sequel.

[Retroman]

A new video where Brandon is having dinner at The Ivy,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xe3QkEPewiM




Brandon is so gracious and kind. He really made quite an impression on people with SR. I Want to see him in the role again. WB??!
Same here and nice find.:up:
Also worth noting that Gil Adler (one of the key-producers on Superman Returns) is there with Routh. And what is currently slated for Adler next? The Man of Steel.

Interesting.
Very interesting indeed.

[Retroman]

Interview with Routh not much different from his recent promotianal stuff for Fear Itself only this time he says that a script is been written. Correct me if i'm wrong but don't think he's actually said this this recently?

Brandon Routh Faces 'Fear Itself'
By Emily Christianson, Hollywood.com Staff

Brandon Routh first came on the scene as the Man of Steel in Superman Returns, but for the past two years the caped crusader has been keeping under the radar. Not giving up on his popcorn appeal, Routh plans to participate in an upcoming sequel, in the meantime focusing on independent film projects and Fear Itself, a new horror anthology on NBC. We caught up with Routh to chat about the new series, his upcoming movies and more.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1092/3498824qr6.jpg

Hollywood.com: What can you tell us about your episode of Fear Itself?
Brandon Routh: My episode, "Community," deals with kind of the dark side of humanity and how people can be led – you know, people don't, a lot of times, want to make decisions on their own or live life for themselves…So my character Bobby and his wife…we want to have a family, so we need to find a house. So we go to a planned community, and it's not quite what we think it's going to be at first. It turns into something much more…a little too planned.

HW: You got to work with American Psycho director Mary Harron. What was that like?
BR: It was a great pleasure, great honor to work with Mary. I was a big fan of American Psycho after my second viewing. The first time, I didn't quite get it [laughs]. But years later, my movie-going experience and the way I look at movies changed. After being in movies and kind of growing up, I have a new and great feeling for that movie. And so, you know, when they said that she was directing the episode, I was like, "Yes, okay, I have to do it." Then dealing with the subject matter that the film does, she wanted to really bring out the human elements of the script and not play on just the thrilling stuff or the horror aspect because it's those human aspects and the relationship between the characters that really makes all that more powerful.

HW: How carefully are you choosing projects since doing Superman?
BR: Still careful, still very carefully choosing. You know, it's important how I present myself and this is a great opportunity to show America who Brandon Routh is outside of the cape and tights. Certainly that is pretty much all people know me from. And so it's a great opportunity to play a real person, real emotion and I was excited to have a great opportunity to work with Mary Harron who is a fantastic film director who brought a great quality of cinematic feel to her episode. It's a thrilling episode. I didn't really want to do anything that was blood and guts only. Something like this which is very scary because it's almost kind of real. It could happen.

HW: Would you consider a regular TV gig?
BR: Not right now, not at this time, no. I did television a little bit but certainly have never been on a series except for my year on soap opera, but my interest is definitely in film for the time being. Episodic stuff, there's a lot of comedy stuff that would be fun to do. An episode of 30 Rock, something like that. Absolutely, I love doing comedy and there are some great shows out there but film is the thing for me.

HW: What are some of the films you have coming up?
BR: Lie to Me...My wife, Courtney Ford is in it...And I did a film called Life is Hot in Cracktown which is still finding a home, a film called Miss Nobody which is a great dark comedy with Leslie Bibb, Kathy Baker, and Missi Pyle which may be out later this year.

HW: These are all indie films?
BR: Yes, yeah.

HW: How are each of those characters different for you?
BR: Well, in Miss Nobody it is comedic, it is a comedic role kind of leading man type of thing. This certainly being a character who is not wounded but is in duress, a lot of duress for most of the episode. And Lie to Me is about an open relationship, a couple that's in an open relationship so it's an emotional relationship movie with I think themes of fear and a fear of commitment that a lot of people my age and older always are really dealing with. And there's also a little bit of real levity and humor in that.

HW: Is Justice League going to come out before the next Superman?
BR: Oh, I think it seems as though that's not happening, it's on the back burner right now so it's just Man of Steel now.

HW: When are you doing the next Superman? It's taking a long time.
BR: I know, they're busy writing a script and then I trust we'll be starting next year, early next year. That's my timeline anyway.

Fear Itself premieres June 5 on NBC.Source:http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=4
http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=1

This fits nicely with Brandon's recent meeting with Gilbert Adler. The question is though; WHO is writing the supposed script?:huh:

[GreenKToo]

Good question.

[FlawlessVictory]

Interview with Routh not much different from his recent promotianal stuff for Fear Itself only this time he says that a script is been written. Correct me if i'm wrong but don't think he's actually said this this recently?

Source:http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=4
http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=1

This fits nicely with Brandon's recent meeting with Gilbert Adler. The question is though; WHO is writing the supposed script?:huh:

Nice find. My money is on Orci & Kurtzman. If it's not them then it is Hayter.

[FlawlessVictory]

So Routh states the script is being written. What I don't get is, why the secrecy? Variety reported when Jonathan Nolan was hired by WB to write TDK. Why can't we get the same news for MOS? :huh:

[Antonello Blueberry]

So Routh states the script is being written. What I don't get is, why the secrecy? Variety reported when Jonathan Nolan was hired by WB to write TDK. Why can't we get the same news for MOS? :huh:
Maybe because they're waiting for a new treatment before giving the go ahead for the script. It was rumored that Dougherty and Harris wrote two proposals/treatments before being let go to other ventures. As soon as they'll think they have a winner story we'll hear something.

[FilmNerdJamie]

When they announced that Jon Nolan was writing TDK, it was literally in the same article/press release that officially announced the film itself. Up until that point, we all assumed Goyer was writing it again...

[nintendo nerd]

Nice find. My money is on Orci & Kurtzman. If it's not them then it is Hayter.

Solid Snake writing MOS? Now that would be awesome. Didn't he write X-men 2?

[FlawlessVictory]

When they announced that Jon Nolan was writing TDK, it was literally in the same article/press release that officially announced the film itself. Up until that point, we all assumed Goyer was writing it again...

Not true.

WB Planning Batman & Superman Sequels
Source: Variety (http://www.variety.com/)
February 23, 2006


Warner Bros. Pictures is already planning the next installments to Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020) and Superman Returns (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4666), with respective helmers Christopher Nolan and Bryan Singer in line to return, reports Variety.

While neither director's deal is closed, the studio has hired Jonathan Nolan -- Christopher's brother -- to write the screenplay for the untitled "Batman" project. The studio has options on "Begins" star Christian Bale and "Returns" star Brandon Routh.

Next installment in the Caped Crusader franchise is further along in the process since "Begins" was released last summer; Singer's "Returns," now in post-production, doesn't get released until June 30. "Batman" and "Superman" sequels could make their debut in 2008 and 2009, respectively.

Legendary Pictures, which put up half the financing for both "Begins" and "Returns," is expected to board the sequels and split the budgets 50/50 with Warner Bros. In return, Legendary would split all profits, also 50/50.

One idea being tossed about is for Singer to direct a "Superman" sequel soon after he finishes with Warner's remake of sci-fi thriller Logan's Run, which he's also expected to direct.

The trade says Logan's Run is tentatively scheduled to begin shooting this fall in Vancouver. If Singer did pact to direct the "Superman" sequel, that film could be shot in Vancouver as well.

Singer is also set to direct The Mayor of Castro Street, which is in development at Warner Bros.

"Begins" co-writers David Goyer and Christopher Nolan wrote a treatment for the sequel.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=3890

[FlawlessVictory]

Solid Snake writing MOS? Now that would be awesome. Didn't he write X-men 2?

Yea, he had a hand in writing it.

[FilmNerdJamie]

That article does announce that the sequel is in fact happening along with Jon Nolan being hired. So...I was right.

[FlawlessVictory]

That article does announce that the sequel is in fact happening along with Jon Nolan being hired. So...I was right.

So they can't release a similar article stating that the studio is planning on a next Superman film and the writer will be ....

I swear, everything with MOS is so fishy. There are always excuses of why we don't hear anything with it.

[FilmNerdJamie]

So you're changing the subject after being proven wrong?

[FlawlessVictory]

So you're changing the subject after being proven wrong?

That article I quoted states sequels are being planned, right? And that someone was hired to write the sequel to BB. Being planned and actually happening are two different things. It just so happened that WB did in fact decide to officially move forward with TDK. Then, we got the press release from WB incorporating Ledger's casting with the official announcement of the film.

That article I quoted is completely different. It just talks about what is being planned. There is no reason why they can't do the same with MOS and announce the writer in the same way. You make it sound like I want an official press release directly from the studio with all the bells and whistles similar to the July 2006 WB press release regarding TDK.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Again, change the subject after being proven wrong...

[dark_b]

Interview with Routh not much different from his recent promotianal stuff for Fear Itself only this time he says that a script is been written. Correct me if i'm wrong but don't think he's actually said this this recently?

Source:http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=4
http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=1

This fits nicely with Brandon's recent meeting with Gilbert Adler. The question is though; WHO is writing the supposed script?:huh:nothing new IMO.
he said months ago tha tthey are working on it and that he wants to start at the beginning of 2009.
now he says ''script''.

we need hard news.

[FlawlessVictory]

Again, change the subject after being proven wrong...

:huh: You said that article stated the sequel to BB was announced as officially happening. And that article I quoted does not say that. It says being planned. I addressed that. How is that changing the subject?!

[FlawlessVictory]

FNJ, since when does being planned = officially happening?

[FilmNerdJamie]

:whatever:

[FlawlessVictory]

:whatever:

Nice mature response. And thanks for answering my question. :up:

[FilmNerdJamie]

Anyway, quiet frankly, I wouldn't have read anything into that Routh interview/remark...if it wasn't for the fact that we know he and his wife were seen recently with Gil Alder (i.e. one of the major Returns producers).

[BenReilly]

FlawlessVictory is right. Variety broke the news on Jonathan Nolan writing "The Dark Knight" in February 2006. WB didn't officially announce the movie and put out the press release until five months later, in July.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=4601

[Superark]

Brandon always seems like a great guy! I hope he has great success in his career

[Showtime]

Very interesting that Brandon is now saying that writers are working on the script, not sure if he has ever said that before. Also seems more interesting since we just saw him having dinner with Adler. This on the heels of some reports that Singer had met with some writers before leaving for the Valkeryie shoots. I don't know.

[I Am The Knight]

Very interesting that Brandon is now saying that writers are working on the script, not sure if he has ever said that before. Also seems more interesting since we just saw him having dinner with Adler. This on the heels of some reports that Singer had met with some writers before leaving for the Valkeryie shoots. I don't know.

First time he mentions that, I think, yeah. If this is true I wonder who is writing it? I hope it's Hayter.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Interview with Routh not much different from his recent promotianal stuff for Fear Itself only this time he says that a script is been written. Correct me if i'm wrong but don't think he's actually said this this recently?

Source:http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=4
http://www.hollywood.com/content/feature_detail.aspx?id=5243868&p=1

This fits nicely with Brandon's recent meeting with Gilbert Adler. The question is though; WHO is writing the supposed script?:huh:

Batman Begins released June 15th, 2005
TDK releases July 18th, 2008

Superman Returns released June 30th, 2006
MOS released by June-July 2009

Ok that time table makes sense.

However when Routh mentions shooting to start by next year that does not make sense to me. Shooting for Superman Returns began mid-august of 2005. It seems to me if they aren't shooting by August-September 2008 that a 2009 release is unlikely :confused:

[Dark_Lord]

Batman Begins released June 15th, 2005
TDK releases July 18th, 2008

Superman Returns released June 30th, 2006
MOS released by June-July 2009

Ok that time table makes sense.

However when Routh mentions shooting to start by next year that does not make sense to me. Shooting for Superman Returns began mid-august of 2005. It seems to me if they aren't shooting by August-September 2008 that a 2009 release is unlikely :confused:

Who said anything about a 2009 release? They'll be filming in 09, for a 2010 release. If the sequel actually happens.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Rest assured if filming doesn't start "next year" for a 2010 release MOS is done.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Agreed.

I think that it will start shooting in 09. I honestly don't think that the SR fans have to worry anymore. JL being done was the ultimate sign that a sequel to SR has a great chance of happening.

[Showtime]

Batman Begins released June 15th, 2005
TDK releases July 18th, 2008

Superman Returns released June 30th, 2006
MOS released by June-July 2009

Ok that time table makes sense.

However when Routh mentions shooting to start by next year that does not make sense to me. Shooting for Superman Returns began mid-august of 2005. It seems to me if they aren't shooting by August-September 2008 that a 2009 release is unlikely :confused:

What? Superman Returns began shooting in March of 2005. Where are you getting a 2009 release anyway? Routh said early next year, meaning March of 09?

[Mostpowerful]

Very interesting that Brandon is now saying that writers are working on the script, not sure if he has ever said that before. Also seems more interesting since we just saw him having dinner with Adler. This on the heels of some reports that Singer had met with some writers before leaving for the Valkeryie shoots. I don't know.

Well, he did mentioned it again here, a few days after the comingsoon.net interview (April 29),

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=53433&loc=interstitialskip



I think he knows what he is saying; remember last year during the strike, he said that MOS was supposed to be happening after the strike (and Frank Langella did to), but a lot of people laughed at him saying that since JL was 'happening' MOS was dead.. And then Bryan came out with his announcement in March that he was developing the sequel.

What? Superman Returns began shooting in March of 2005. Where are you getting a 2009 release anyway? Routh said early next year, meaning March of 09?

[Showtime]

Well, he did mentioned it again here, a few days after the comingsoon.net interview (April 29),
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=53433&loc=interstitialskip


He didn't say that writers were working on the script in that article? :huh:


I think he knows what he is saying; remember last year during the strike, he said that MOS was supposed to be happening after the strike (and Frank Langella did to), but a lot of people laughed at him saying that since JL was 'happening' MOS was dead.. And then Bryan came out with his announcement in March that he was developing the sequel.

....I don't get it. The movie is obviously not happening in 2009 at this point?

[Superark]

Very interesting that Brandon is now saying that writers are working on the script, not sure if he has ever said that before. Also seems more interesting since we just saw him having dinner with Adler. This on the heels of some reports that Singer had met with some writers before leaving for the Valkeryie shoots. I don't know.


Sounds Promising! :supes:

[Mostpowerful]

He didn't say that writers were working on the script in that article? :huh:



....I don't get it. The movie is obviously not happening in 2009 at this point?

.. No, but to me he was implying that 'they' are working on the script, at least that's what I get from that.

I know that the movie is not happening in 2009, but that 'they' would begin writing the script after the strike. So here is hoping.. I think we just need to wait and see what happens. Patience is a virtue...indeed. But it seems that some people want updates every week, no?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Nerds are an impatient lot. Personally I think that we are do some news. An official greenlight will do.

[Mostpowerful]

... :lmao:

Found a new video of Brandon...just for laughs,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rmEhnP4eb90


Well, he says he loves comedy.. :funny:

[Ultimate_Superman]

^^LOL


That was funny

[The son becomes]

I really hope they make MOS. I watched SR again recently and feel it is such a good and well made movie, that has really grown on me since I first saw it. Brandon made both an excellent Clark and Superman and I can't think of another actor that could have done such justice to the role. I mean the guy made it his own but had so much respect for the films that had gone before. That bit where you see him as Clark in the Planet for the first time nearly cracks me up everytime, it's like being 7 years old again.

It feels like SR was part of a bigger picture and I really hope we get to see where Singer will take it next.

[Nightwing1977]

Very interesting news about Routh talking about MoS is being written & that one of the producer with him is the same guy who did SR. Thankfully it not Jon Peters. :p

I do feel the same on why is WB not saying who is the writer/s on MoS if it is happending. I doubt Routh would lie about it. He seem too nice to do that kind of thing. Instead of lying about it, he would've say "No comment" instead of lying. I think MoS is going to happend & not a reboot thankfully. And it great he been doing a lot indie films. It should be good for his career after Supes to do those kind of films beside big action type like superhero or whatever.

[Dark Knight]

Very interesting that Brandon is now saying that writers are working on the script, not sure if he has ever said that before. Also seems more interesting since we just saw him having dinner with Adler. This on the heels of some reports that Singer had met with some writers before leaving for the Valkeryie shoots. I don't know.



I'm with you and Flawless,

I think Orci and Kurtzman are writing there pitch as we speak, with WB's hopefully aiming to let the cat out of the bag at Comic Con. Possibly Hayter or McQuarrie could be the writer(s) as well. IESB said like 2 or 3 months ago that the scuttlebutt is that Orci and Kurtzman were in talks to write MOS....and they are finished with Trek and Transformers 2 so....

[X-Maniac]

I hope Showtime doesn't mind me posting this...

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/06/superman-actor-brandon-routh-s.html

It's a link to a blog (mine) reporting this latest Routh quote. There's no new information, so don't expect revelations, it's just a mainstream mention of the Superman project.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

... :lmao:

Found a new video of Brandon...just for laughs,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rmEhnP4eb90


Well, he says he loves comedy.. :funny:

This one is funnier

http://home.comcast.net/~wolfand/ (http://home.comcast.net/~wolfand/)

[Krug3r]

sorry...the acting still looks fake

Remind me again...why isn't cavill superman?

[nocomics]

What? Superman Returns began shooting in March of 2005. Where are you getting a 2009 release anyway? Routh said early next year, meaning March of 09?
SR started shooting in '05,and was released in '06. So,if they started shooting MOS in '09 they will release it in '10 thats what he stated I think. Again they would have to start filming MOS pretty early to make the 2010 release date.

[Showtime]

SR started shooting in '05,and was released in '06. So,if they started shooting MOS in '09 they will release it in '10 thats what he stated I think. Again they would have to start filming MOS pretty early to make the 2010 release date.

It would probably be around March 09 if they were aiming for late July 2010.

[nintendo nerd]

Remind me again...why isn't cavill superman?

Because Routh was great in the role, and most people like his performance, even if they didn't like the film. You are in the minority here. :o

And perhaps, maybe he is not interested or no one offered him the role.

[batdude]

Most likely, this will come out in 2010 if it does at all.

[phil]

Because Routh was great in the role, and most people like his performance, even if they didn't like the film. You are in the minority here. :o

And perhaps, maybe he is not interested or no one offered him the role.

LOL

[Dark_Lord]

LOL

Just because you didn't like Routh, doesn't make what he said not true.

[phil]

Just because you didn't like Routh, doesn't make what he said not true.

LOL

[wellsy]

LOL
Can you provide a response entailing more than two letters in an a-b-a arrangement? :whatever:

[Dark_Lord]

Can you provide a response entailing more than two letters in an a-b-a arrangement? :whatever:

Apparently not.

EDIT: Although he might make a comment about how it's been 2 years since SRs release and we haven't heard anything official about the sequel yet and he'll say something about not being born yesterday and he'll throw some of these...:whatever:......in. :oldrazz:

[wolfboy]

Man, of love those little smilie guys. They add such pep to the regular gang of letters.

[Mostpowerful]

Apparently not.

EDIT: Although he might make a comment about how it's been 2 years since SRs release and we haven't heard anything official about the sequel yet and he'll say something about not being born yesterday and he'll throw some of these...:whatever:......in. :oldrazz:

Yup. :funny::up:

It got boring a long time ago.

[The son becomes]

From what I read the initial delay was SR making the right sum of money before a sequel was greenlit for development - which I believe it did and was. Further delays were caused by Singer, quite reasonably, wanting to work on a smaller picture in between and the writers' strike.

It would have been great if the sequel was out 2009 but we're only just about to see the Batman sequel and we waited 20 years for a Superman film so another one won't hurt.

Any Superman film will make 300-400m worldwide without any trouble, from a financial point of view a reboot will cost in excess of 200m to produce, where as a lot the dev has already been done for SR meaning huge savings for the studio. Additionally Chirs Reeve is Superman for a lot of people but in Routh they found someone the public not only accepted but liked enormously. A reboot would mean they'd have to start the challenge again and this time not only would cinema goers be comparing any new actor to Reeve but to Routh as well.

It doesn't mean it will but - It makes sense for MOS to happen

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

From what I read the initial delay was SR making the right sum of money before a sequel was greenlit for development - which I believe it did and was. Further delays were caused by Singer, quite reasonably, wanting to work on a smaller picture in between and the writers' strike.

It would have been great if the sequel was out 2009 but we're only just about to see the Batman sequel and we waited 20 years for a Superman film so another one won't hurt.

Any Superman film will make 300-400m worldwide without any trouble, from a financial point of view a reboot will cost in excess of 200m to produce, where as a lot the dev has already been done for SR meaning huge savings for the studio. Additionally Chirs Reeve is Superman for a lot of people but in Routh they found someone the public not only accepted but liked enormously. A reboot would mean they'd have to start the challenge again and this time not only would cinema goers be comparing any new actor to Reeve but to Routh as well.

It doesn't mean it will but - It makes sense for MOS to happen

Agreed on all accounts, i think a re-boot now would just confuse and anger people, a sequel makes complete sense, whether it does to WB or not though, is a different matter.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

This one is funnier

http://home.comcast.net/~wolfand/ (http://home.comcast.net/%7Ewolfand/)
Oh, you are an a$$ :woot:.

[Nightwing1977]

LOL

LOL

Spam alert!!

Nice to see you laugh at person who like a guy in a role & you don't. Way to laugh & make fun of people for liking Routh in the role. So I guess you want everyone to like the guy you want? Otherwise you would laugh at 'em like a jerk. :whatever:

[El Payaso]

LOL
LOL

Poorest replies ever. Some effort is urgently needed man.

[phil]

I laughed because he said most people think he was great in the role when most people don't even know who he is. Also because he says most people liked his performance, and if you don't your in the minority with an icon to obviously to put the guy down for his comment.

If he meant just in this forum then I can see that but if "most people" means the audience itself then yes I laughed, sorry but it makes me laugh because it's not true. And it makes me laugh because you guys are the first to jump at someone for posting as facts and not a opinion. How does he know most people felt that way and it's a fact? It doesn't matter what a few regulars feel about a movie so I took it as he meant the actual audience that counts.

[Dark_Lord]

I laughed because he said most people think he was great in the role when most people don't even know who he is. Also because he says most people liked his performance, and if you don't your in the minority with an icon to obviously to put the guy down for his comment.

If he meant just in this forum then I can see that but if "most people" means the audience itself then yes I laughed, sorry but it makes me laugh because it's not true. And it makes me laugh because you guys are the first to jump at someone for posting as facts and not a opinion. How does he know most people felt that way and it's a fact? It doesn't matter what a few regulars feel about a movie so I took it as he meant the actual audience that counts.

If this is about your first LOL post (not the one about mine) then ok. If it's about mine, then I didn't say it was a fact. I just said that it doesn't mean it's not true. You also made it seem like your opinion is fact, that most people didn't like Routh. That's why I said it doesn't mean it's not true.

Besides. Knowing who Routh is, doesn't have anything to do with what people thought of him as Superman. Yeah, a lot of people I talked to about SR, both after the movies release and a year+ after, might not have known his name or hadn't seen him in anything else....but they saw SR, they saw him as Superman and they liked him, even if they don't really know who he is.

Either way, we cant know for sure if most people liked or didn't like Routh.

[I Am The Knight]

I laughed because he said most people think he was great in the role when most people don't even know who he is.

Most people that saw the movie, obviously. :whatever: And among those, the consensus seemed to be that Routh did a good job as Superman.

[Superman-Prime]

LOL

LOL

What a wonderful response ever I've read. :whatever:

Congrats. You're the troll of the internet and I wish you would have been banned PERMANENTLY. This board would've so much better without you.

[phil]

If this is about your first LOL post (not the one about mine) then ok. If it's about mine, then I didn't say it was a fact. I just said that it doesn't mean it's not true. You also made it seem like your opinion is fact, that most people didn't like Routh. That's why I said it doesn't mean it's not true.

Besides. Knowing who Routh is, doesn't have anything to do with what people thought of him as Superman. Yeah, a lot of people I talked to about SR, both after the movies release and a year+ after, might not have known his name or hadn't seen him in anything else....but they saw SR, they saw him as Superman and they liked him, even if they don't really know who he is.

Either way, we cant know for sure if most people liked or didn't like Routh.

No it wasn't directed at you at all. And as for Routh it's funny I haven't had a single non die hard fan like this guy as Superman among people I know. So I guess it's where you live and who you hang out with who knows. But your right, we can't know for sure who liked and who didn't my comment was just laughing because of the fact/opinion thing, how the same people that complain about do it too. But it's a message board everything that anyone writes anyway is obviously an opinion who cares if they feel strongly about a movie and presents those feelings as facts. It shows they believe in themselves if they are being true to their feelings.
I don't care if you guys liked the film, you can't help the way you feel. I have no right at all to dispute that. I do care (and then can't always help myself) when people give their opinions as facts like Routh was well received when that movie is an afterthought. And I strongly believe that a well received actor as Superman in a big budget blockbuster movie would automatically become a household name like Chris Reeve. Or it was just the timing, the marketing, Routh's hair was just like the certain comics with his side burns and curl when it's a fact that the side burns were really hair pushed forward trying to look like side burns and his curl was a completely different and even parted on the other side, lol etc. etc. etc. Can some of you at least put yourself in my shoes and realize why I respond to that the way I do when I have strong views just like you do about a live action Superman and hear those comments all the time? I'm not trolling, I'm first a live action Superman fan before anything to do with him. And SR threads are the current Superman's threads. I'm sorry if I come off as I am and I'm sorry for just the laughs, they were uncalled for I get it before I get another page of crying about it from anyone and everyone.
Mark my words we will not be "divided fans" in the future with movie technology we will someday get a Superman we all agree on. Believe it or not I look forward to it. I also think JL is going to happen, call me crazy I don't want it to happen for my own selfish reasons but IronMan really changed things in the competition, how could it not.

[phil]

What a wonderful response ever I've read. :whatever:

Congrats. You're the troll of the internet and I wish you would have been banned PERMANENTLY. This board would've so much better without you.

When did you become such a coolguy?:word:

[nintendo nerd]

When did you become such a coolguy?:word:

He is cooler than you'll ever be. :o

[Showtime]

Enough guys. You're giving me a headache.

I guess Routh is going to be playing himself in Kambakkth Ishq, which Stallone was just signed on to play himself in....

[Mostpowerful]

I really hope they make MOS. I watched SR again recently and feel it is such a good and well made movie, that has really grown on me since I first saw it. Brandon made both an excellent Clark and Superman and I can't think of another actor that could have done such justice to the role. I mean the guy made it his own but had so much respect for the films that had gone before. That bit where you see him as Clark in the Planet for the first time nearly cracks me up everytime, it's like being 7 years old again.

It feels like SR was part of a bigger picture and I really hope we get to see where Singer will take it next.

From what I read the initial delay was SR making the right sum of money before a sequel was greenlit for development - which I believe it did and was. Further delays were caused by Singer, quite reasonably, wanting to work on a smaller picture in between and the writers' strike.

It would have been great if the sequel was out 2009 but we're only just about to see the Batman sequel and we waited 20 years for a Superman film so another one won't hurt.

Any Superman film will make 300-400m worldwide without any trouble, from a financial point of view a reboot will cost in excess of 200m to produce, where as a lot the dev has already been done for SR meaning huge savings for the studio. Additionally Chirs Reeve is Superman for a lot of people but in Routh they found someone the public not only accepted but liked enormously. A reboot would mean they'd have to start the challenge again and this time not only would cinema goers be comparing any new actor to Reeve but to Routh as well.

It doesn't mean it will but - It makes sense for MOS to happen

Good posts! And Welcome! :yay:



Agreed on all accounts, i think a re-boot now would just confuse and anger people, a sequel makes complete sense, whether it does to WB or not though, is a different matter.

Agreed. Especially since SR was liked by a lot of people, hence the nearly $400 mil WW of BO and the very favorable reviews. I know that if they rebooted too soon, I won't support it. Period. And I mean it. I just couldn't accept a new guy in the role; I'd not buy it. Routh is a tough act to follow for me.:o

[\S/JcDc\S/]

What a wonderful response ever I've read. :whatever:

Congrats. You're the troll of the internet and I wish you would have been banned PERMANENTLY. This board would've so much better without you.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3062/repostbacktothefutureaw5.jpg

[GreenKToo]

I liked Routh just fine, but I wouldnt be upset to the point that I wouldnt give the new guy a chance if Routh got replaced for whatever reason.
The way I look at it is, i'm a fan of the character first, the actor second.

[batman44]

^agreed.

[The son becomes]

Good posts! And Welcome! :yay:

Thanks.

Agreed. Especially since SR was liked by a lot of people, hence the nearly $400 mil WW of BO and the very favorable reviews. I know that if they rebooted too soon, I won't support it. Period. And I mean it. I just couldn't accept a new guy in the role; I'd not buy it. Routh is a tough act to follow for me.:o

Whenever we see a remake, reboot or even a sequel we can't help but compare it to what went before. Donner and Reeve's Superman was just so damn good that it's now very hard for anyone to retell that story and both Singer and Routh respected this. This is why Batman Begins worked so well, because on film his origin story hadn't been told.

A reboot would mean a new CGI driven origin story, told without any soul that will almost certainly end with Superman fighting a CGI villan in the streets. Is that what we want because I can guarantee that's what will happen, it'll be nothing more than fast food.

[Ita-KalEl]

From what I read the initial delay was SR making the right sum of money before a sequel was greenlit for development - which I believe it did and was. Further delays were caused by Singer, quite reasonably, wanting to work on a smaller picture in between and the writers' strike.

It would have been great if the sequel was out 2009 but we're only just about to see the Batman sequel and we waited 20 years for a Superman film so another one won't hurt.

Any Superman film will make 300-400m worldwide without any trouble, from a financial point of view a reboot will cost in excess of 200m to produce, where as a lot the dev has already been done for SR meaning huge savings for the studio. Additionally Chirs Reeve is Superman for a lot of people but in Routh they found someone the public not only accepted but liked enormously. A reboot would mean they'd have to start the challenge again and this time not only would cinema goers be comparing any new actor to Reeve but to Routh as well.

It doesn't mean it will but - It makes sense for MOS to happen

This makes sense.
Onlt the stupidity of WB could stop the sequel.

[batman44]

Thanks.



Whenever we see a remake, reboot or even a sequel we can't help but compare it to what went before. Donner and Reeve's Superman was just so damn good that it's now very hard for anyone to retell that story and both Singer and Routh respected this. This is why Batman Begins worked so well, because on film his origin story hadn't been told.

A reboot would mean a new CGI driven origin story, told without any soul that will almost certainly end with Superman fighting a CGI villan in the streets. Is that what we want because I can guarantee that's what will happen, it'll be nothing more than fast food.


I personally don't find S:TM so good tha it'll be hard for someone to retell the origin. Also, there is no guarentee that a reboot would mean having a souless film and what do you mean mean by CGI driven? The SR sequel is likely to be CGI driven (like SR) and would probably end with Superman fighting a CGI villian.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Enough guys. You're giving me a headache.

I guess Routh is going to be playing himself in Kambakkth Ishq, which Stallone was just signed on to play himself in....

The Incredible Love I believe it's called. And yes Stallone and the Governator himself along with Routh are supposed to show up as...you guessed it...themselves.

[The son becomes]

I personally don't find S:TM so good tha it'll be hard for someone to retell the origin. Also, there is no guarentee that a reboot would mean having a souless film and what do you mean mean by CGI driven? The SR sequel is likely to be CGI driven (like SR) and would probably end with Superman fighting a CGI villian.

Personally I find it unnecessary to retell an origin story if it's already been done well and I think 'Superman: The Movie' did, though others may disagree.

With regards to CGI, my point was that SFX should be there to tell the story and not to take over. Personally I'm tired of superhero films concluding in a CGI fight in the streets of New York or similar, which to me always feels like a poor imitation of the fight scene in Superman II.

I'm really not excited about the idea of a reboot of Superman, partly to do with losing Routh and Singer but also due to the length of time it takes to develop a new franchise. WB are also very protective about their prize property and if history tells us anything, we could be waiting another 20 years for a reboot.

[batman44]

There is nothing wrong with not wanting a reboot and I understand why some people wouldn't want it, but to say that if one happens then it will be soulless, can't agree with that.

In regards to city fight with villians, I won't say tired of them, but I think many could be more exciting.

[GreenKToo]

If Superman were to fight a villain just as strong and fast as he, I doubt it would be contained to just one city.
I'd like to see it spread out over several states.

[The son becomes]

There is nothing wrong with not wanting a reboot and I understand why some people wouldn't it, but to say that if one happens then it will be soulless, can't agree with that.

In regards to city fight with villians, I won't say tired of them, but I think many could be more exciting.

Fair point, so let me re-phrase that - potentially soulless.

[Antonello Blueberry]

If Superman were to fight a villain just as strong and fast as he, I doubt it would be contained to just one city.
I'd like to see it spread out over several states.
if Superman were to fight a villain just as strong and fast as he is, he would be so intelligent to take the fight in some deserted place, like Sahara or the moon where no innocent would die because of the fight. And not start a wrestling match in the streets of the most crowded city in the USA like he does in the animated movie.

[dark_b]

f Superman were to fight a villain just as strong and fast as he, he would be so intelligent to take the fight in some deserted place, like Sahara or the moon where no innocent would die because of the fight. And not start a wrestling match in the streets of the most crowded city in the USA like he does in the animated movie.this is a movie. it is written by a writter.
so you writte a fight that takes place in the city. you writte a villain that forces superman to fight in the city.
sueprman can fly all he wants from the villain. the monster will just kill more and more people.
a fight in the city is better because superman would have to save people and fight. or maybe have some evacuation 1 day before. so the city is very empty.
i dont knwo what or how. but a desert is not an option. POTC has extreme complex watter simulation while they are fighting,spiderman fights above buildings.
and superman will fight in a boring desert?

please:o

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Fair point, so let me re-phrase that - potentially soulless.Well I'd say that SR was rather soulless.

[Mostpowerful]

Personally I find it unnecessary to retell an origin story if it's already been done well and I think 'Superman: The Movie' did, .

I feel the same way. STM is such a good movie that captured the spirit of Superman perfectly. And even though I don't think the movie is flawless or perfect, it got most things right. And audiences embraced it with open arms. It is a classic, and the most well-known and popular version of the character so far.


Well I'd say that SR was rather soulless.

:huh: I totally disagree with that. I think SR has A LOT of heart actually. I think it's such a beautiful and poetic film that honours the legend that is Superman. To each their own.

[TheComicbookKid]

this is a movie. it is written by a writter.
so you writte a fight that takes place in the city. you writte a villain that forces superman to fight in the city.
sueprman can fly all he wants from the villain. the monster will just kill more and more people.
a fight in the city is better because superman would have to save people and fight. or maybe have some evacuation 1 day before. so the city is very empty.
i dont knwo what or how. but a desert is not an option. POTC has extreme complex watter simulation while they are fighting,spiderman fights above buildings.
and superman will fight in a boring desert?

please:o

I think his point was that Superman would try to move the fight to a place where no one would get hurt. I.E. punch the villain into space, or away from the city. He wouldn't stage a Dragonball Z style tournament in a desert.

Anyone else remember how on Power Rangers, they'd start fighting in a city then miraculous end up in a desert area. Or the model city would look abandoned. Good times!:woot: