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Antonello Blueberry
06-24-2008, 05:11 PM
this is a movie. it is written by a writter.
so you writte a fight that takes place in the city. you writte a villain that forces superman to fight in the city.
sueprman can fly all he wants from the villain. the monster will just kill more and more people.
a fight in the city is better because superman would have to save people and fight. or maybe have some evacuation 1 day before. so the city is very empty.
i dont knwo what or how. but a desert is not an option. POTC has extreme complex watter simulation while they are fighting,spiderman fights above buildings.
and superman will fight in a boring desert?
A fight in a desert might be boring, but Superman keeping on fighting a monster in the city, putting in danger the lives of thousands of people, is just plain stupid, and sloppy writing too. At least you have to show him trying with all his strength to take the menace out of the city.
Mostpowerful
06-24-2008, 05:16 PM
A fight in a desert might be boring, but Superman keeping on fighting a monster in the city, putting in danger the lives of thousands of people, is just plain stupid, and sloppy writing too. At least you have to show him trying with all his strength to take the menace out of the city.
Exactly. That's why he is Superman.
GreenKToo
06-24-2008, 06:06 PM
But if the villain is just as strong, or even stronger, Superman may not be able to dictate where and how the fight goes, especially if it were someone like Darkseid he was fighting.
I'm not saying he wouldnt at least try to move it out of the city, but to think he could with someone like Darkseid is crazy.
But if the villain is just as strong, or even stronger, Superman may not be able to dictate where and how the fight goes, especially if it were someone like Darkseid he was fighting.
I'm not saying he wouldnt at least try to move it out of the city, but to think he could with someone like Darkseid is crazy.
exactly, and what fun would it be if he got the fight somewhere else anyway for the audience? It's just a movie. The only thing Superman could do is leave but if it's a Super villain who's to say he doesn't start taking people out by the hundreds? How would Superman have a choice where he fights with killers that don't reason:huh:?
GreenKToo
06-24-2008, 06:26 PM
I wouldnt mind a desert fight if thats where it eventually ends up, but I want to see it start in the city, move to the open ocean, then maybe end up somewhere like in the desert.
I'd also like to see the military (FROM AROUND THE WORLD) get involved. Not just a few tanks or soldiers either, i'm talking about several fighter planes, ships, etc.
If it were truly a world wide threat, every country and their brother would be trying to stop said threat, not just America. Darkseid or Brainiac would be the perfect villain to fill that role.
FilmNerdJamie
06-24-2008, 07:08 PM
I guess Routh is going to be playing himself in Kambakkth Ishq, which Stallone was just signed on to play himself in....
Bollywood Epic Brings Together Action Heroes
by Jamie Williams in June 24th, 2008
You can definitely list this one under, “What the…?!?”
Incredible Love, the first Bollywood (http://screenrant.com/bollywood-epic-brings-together-action-heroes-2747/#) film to be made at Universal Studios, has lined up the likes of Arnold Schwarzenegger (http://screenrant.com/bollywood-epic-brings-together-action-heroes-2747/#) (The Terminator franchise), Sylvester Stallone (Rocky and Rambo series), Brandon Routh (Superman Returns and the upcoming sequel Man of Steel) and Linda Hamilton (also from The Terminator series) to appear.
But don’t get ahead of yourselves excited at the prospects of them in full-on action-mode blowing stuff up. They’re only walk-on parts (i.e. playing themselves).
The actual plot involves “an Indian stuntman who takes Hollywood (http://screenrant.com/bollywood-epic-brings-together-action-heroes-2747/#) by storm but cannot find true love there.”
Its also the most expensive Bollywood production ever made. And that apparently comes from nabbing said actors. As producer Sajid Nadiadwala explained:“As a producer, these stars are expensive. But as their fan I feel money is of no consequence.”Personally, it seems like a waste to pay them a bunch of cash just to show up and say, “Hey, what’s up? I’m *fill in the blank*” I’d totally want to get my money’s worth and have a big musical dance number where Arnold and Sly compare their cinematic bad-ass-ness.
But maybe that’s just me…
Sources: The Times (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/bollywood/article4187558.ece) and Sify (http://sify.com/movies/bollywood/fullstory.php?id=14701541)
http://screenrant.com/bollywood-epic-brings-together-action-heroes-2747/
Superman-Prime
06-24-2008, 07:21 PM
I'm glad to see the sequel is still a go. :)
Mostpowerful
06-24-2008, 07:51 PM
Enough guys. You're giving me a headache.
I guess Routh is going to be playing himself in Kambakkth Ishq, which Stallone was just signed on to play himself in....
Apparently they also want the governor of California himself. And yes, Brandon was asked to do a cameo, but nothing is final yet according to Iris. All the Hollywood names will just do a small part in that film. I wonder what type or genre of film this is. :huh: You know?
Also, Brandon was seen in the Playboy mansion this past weekend..:oldrazz:
http://perezhilton.com/2008-06-23-the-ghost-of-courtney-love-takes-the-stage
:woot:
Showtime
06-24-2008, 08:13 PM
I was told it was a go and he is already signed on, but who knows.
AragornKing1
06-24-2008, 08:39 PM
I was told it was a go and he is already signed on, but who knows.
Don't get mad at me Show. I don't believe Steve, but he is saying that the cast's contracts expired in 2007. How is that possible? That makes no sense. And he also said that Justice League is a higher priority for WB than another Superman movie. What do you think? :huh:
FlawlessVictory
06-24-2008, 08:47 PM
Don't get mad at me Show. I don't believe Steve, but he is saying that the cast's contracts expired in 2007. How is that possible? That makes no sense. And he also said that Justice League is a higher priority for WB than another Superman movie. What do you think? :huh:
This is just pure speculation on my part but I think it will either be MOS or JLA to be the next DC superhero project for WB outside of Batman. Whichever doesn't get announced will be put on the shelf for a very long time. I don't see WB moving forward with both MOS and JLA.
AragornKing1
06-24-2008, 08:49 PM
This is just pure speculation on my part but I think it will either be MOS or JLA to be the next DC superhero project for WB outside of Batman. Whichever doesn't get announced will be put on the shelf for a very long time. I don't see WB moving forward with both MOS and JLA.
I don't see why WB can't make both movies. Showtime said that they're aiming for MOS to come out in 2010 and Justice League in 2011. But, who knows. I hope they make both or just MOS and not Justice League if I had to choose one.
Showtime
06-24-2008, 08:57 PM
Don't get mad at me Show. I don't believe Steve, but he is saying that the cast's contracts expired in 2007. How is that possible? That makes no sense. And he also said that Justice League is a higher priority for WB than another Superman movie. What do you think? :huh:
I was refering to the Bollywood movie when I said he was signed and it was a go.
GreenKToo
06-24-2008, 09:00 PM
I don't see why WB can't make both movies. Showtime said that they're aiming for MOS to come out in 2010 and Justice League in 2011. But, who knows. I hope they make both or just MOS and not Justice League if I had to choose one.
In an ideal world M.O.S. would happen for 2010' with Brainiac as the main villain, and end with a cliffhanger with a villain like Darkseid.
That could set up a J.L. film with Routh for 2011.
FlawlessVictory
06-24-2008, 09:03 PM
I don't see why WB can't make both movies. Showtime said that they're aiming for MOS to come out in 2010 and Justice League in 2011. But, who knows. I hope they make both or just MOS and not Justice League if I had to choose one.
Because I think it's pretty safe to say TDK will be a pretty big hit for WB. They will most likely schedule the followup (the supposed last in the Nolan trilogy) for 2011. As dumb as I think WB can be sometimes, I can't see them releasing two live action superhero movies in the same year with two different Batman. And the same goes with MOS and JLA for 2010. I can't see them releasing two different live action Superman in the same year. It would be the most idiotic thing.
Superman-Prime
06-24-2008, 10:24 PM
That could set up a J.L. film with Routh for 2011.
How could you forget Christian Bale? Dammit!! :cmad:
<_<
I Am The Knight
06-24-2008, 10:36 PM
This is just pure speculation on my part but I think it will either be MOS or JLA to be the next DC superhero project for WB outside of Batman. Whichever doesn't get announced will be put on the shelf for a very long time. I don't see WB moving forward with both MOS and JLA.
Me neither. But who knows what goes on in their heads...I suppose we should know more after TDK opens, as WB will feel confident in their comic book movies and they'll decide what they want to do. If MOS does not happen for whatever reason, they should try to fast track Green Lantern, not JL. Not right now anyways. :o
dark_b
06-25-2008, 03:07 AM
A fight in a desert might be boring, but Superman keeping on fighting a monster in the city, putting in danger the lives of thousands of people, is just plain stupid, and sloppy writing too. At least you have to show him trying with all his strength to take the menace out of the city.thats why IMO SR didnt make more money. because they were thinking to much. i am not saying that the movie shuold be 100% dumb. but lets have some more fun.
so what if they fight in the city. OP killed some people when sliding down the building. so what....SO WHAT.
this is not hamlet. this is supposed to be a big budget summer blockbuster about a villain that is strong and can fly.
they can focus on supermans character when he has a dialoge with lois lane and lex luthor. when he is fighting a supervillain they should just fight....and destroy.
wellsy
06-25-2008, 04:29 AM
thats why IMO SR didnt make more money. because they were thinking to much. i am not saying that the movie shuold be 100% dumb. but lets have some more fun.
so what if they fight in the city. OP killed some people when sliding down the building. so what....SO WHAT.
this is not hamlet. this is supposed to be a big budget summer blockbuster about a villain that is strong and can fly.
they can focus on supermans character when he has a dialoge with lois lane and lex luthor. when he is fighting a supervillain they should just fight....and destroy.
Wow, you missed the target and hit the moon mate. That's overkill.
Property damage, I can take. But I couldn't see Superman just letting a city be destroyed around him (a la TAS and JL and JLU). It smacks of irresponsibility. He can fly can't he? And he has heat vision? 'That's right you numchuck! Come and get me or I'll shoot you with my lazers!' would get them into the air.
And perhaps Mt Rushmore could be destroyed (are given a whopping great bloody nose). A proper, epic Superman fight shouldn't be limited to a city. Someone earlier suggested the fight going across states, and I totally agree.
GreenKToo
06-25-2008, 07:23 AM
Wow, you missed the target and hit the moon mate. That's overkill.
Property damage, I can take. But I couldn't see Superman just letting a city be destroyed around him (a la TAS and JL and JLU). It smacks of irresponsibility. He can fly can't he? And he has heat vision? 'That's right you numchuck! Come and get me or I'll shoot you with my lazers!' would get them into the air.
And perhaps Mt Rushmore could be destroyed (are given a whopping great bloody nose). A proper, epic Superman fight shouldn't be limited to a city. Someone earlier suggested the fight going across states, and I totally agree.
That'd be me.
As for as wanting to see massive city wide destruction, I can see exactly where dark b is coming from. He's desperate to see what a Superman film can truly bring to the table, as am I.
I think it would be even better to have them fight at superspeed across a large area. When you have two beings as powerful as them fighting, the battlefield wouldn't be limited to a small area such as Metropolis.
Showtime
06-25-2008, 07:33 AM
Don't get mad at me Show. I don't believe Steve, but he is saying that the cast's contracts expired in 2007. How is that possible? That makes no sense. And he also said that Justice League is a higher priority for WB than another Superman movie. What do you think? :huh:
Why would Steve Younis say that the contracts are expired when he knew that they were aiming to film in 2008?
:huh:
Are you sure you have your story straight?
Dark_Lord
06-25-2008, 08:05 AM
Why would Steve Younis say that the contracts are expired when he knew that they were aiming to film in 2008?
:huh:
Are you sure you have your story straight?
I don't think he meant that Steve. I think he meant Emily's husband Steve, from the save Superman site.
FilmNerdJamie
06-25-2008, 08:12 AM
I don't think he meant that Steve. I think he meant Emily's husband Steve, from the save Superman site.
Who?
dark_b
06-25-2008, 08:16 AM
noone. but i hey i want to insult him thats....why i said noone heheheheh
I Am The Knight
06-25-2008, 12:17 PM
Wow, you missed the target and hit the moon mate. That's overkill.
Property damage, I can take. But I couldn't see Superman just letting a city be destroyed around him (a la TAS and JL and JLU). It smacks of irresponsibility. He can fly can't he? And he has heat vision? 'That's right you numchuck! Come and get me or I'll shoot you with my lazers!' would get them into the air.
And perhaps Mt Rushmore could be destroyed (are given a whopping great bloody nose). A proper, epic Superman fight shouldn't be limited to a city. Someone earlier suggested the fight going across states, and I totally agree.
I think the fight should start in Metropolis, and end in space. :cwink:
You know, the villain confronts Superman but (just like in Superman II) after Superman sees people in terrible danger, he moves the fight to another area. Like space. :yay: They could even go to New Krypton, although I'm not sure how that would work...But you know...I'd prefer to see Superman fighting on the streets of Metropolis, even if it's not the most logical thing.
I SEE SPIDEY
06-25-2008, 02:01 PM
I think the fight should start in Metropolis, and end in space. :cwink:
You know, the villain confronts Superman but (just like in Superman II) after Superman sees people in terrible danger, he moves the fight to another area. Like space. :yay: They could even go to New Krypton, although I'm not sure how that would work...But you know...I'd prefer to see Superman fighting on the streets of Metropolis, even if it's not the most logical thing.And a rare "Agreed" comes down the pipe.:up:
Dark Knight
06-25-2008, 02:02 PM
In an ideal world M.O.S. would happen for 2010' with Brainiac as the main villain, and end with a cliffhanger with a villain like Darkseid.
That could set up a J.L. film with Routh for 2011.
Thats what I would like to see.....Singer and the new writers should basically tie in the MOS story and leave a cliffhanger type of ending where it would hint at Darkseid for the JL film. MOS should also introduce us to at least one potential JL character and IMO it should be Det John Jones aka Jonn Jonn'z/Martian Manhunter. JL film could happen in 2011 or 2012. I think Nolans 3rd part of his Batman trilogy will come out in 2011.
Dark Knight
06-25-2008, 02:05 PM
That'd be me.
As for as wanting to see massive city wide destruction, I can see exactly where dark b is coming from. He's desperate to see what a Superman film can truly bring to the table, as am I.
I think it would be even better to have them fight at superspeed across a large area. When you have two beings as powerful as them fighting, the battlefield wouldn't be limited to a small area such as Metropolis.
I think the fighting should start in a city....but then Superman moving the fight to a desert mountainious area.
GreenKToo
06-25-2008, 02:45 PM
That what I would like to see.....Singer and the new writers should basically tie in the MOS story and leave a cliffhanger type of ending where it would hint at Darkseid for the JL film. MOS should also introduce us to at least one potential JL character and IMO it should be Det John Jones aka Jonn Jonn'z/Martian Manhunter. JL film could happen in 2011 or 2012. I think the Nolans 3rd part of his Batman trilogy will come out in 2011.
I have no idea if W.B. would even consider the possibility of doing that, but it seems like a surefire way to get some buzz going if they did.
solidsnake86
06-25-2008, 02:45 PM
I would also like to see a fight in the streets of metropolis regardless if it doesn't make that much sense. I think superman needs more shots in the city streets like batman has in TDK and on top of buildings (real buildings) to give it a better scope.
Dark Knight
06-25-2008, 03:30 PM
I would also like to see a fight in the streets of metropolis regardless if it doesn't make that much sense. I think superman needs more shots in the city streets like batman has in TDK and on top of buildings (real buildings) to give it a better scope.
I agree to a certain extent. His fight sequences with Metallo,Eradicator,Doomsday, Braniac potentially need to take place in different landscapes and I think the visuals for this particular film should be more mesmerizing and epic in scale compared to SR. Can you imagine if Singer (or any director) used a visual style and color tones for a Superman film that were used in 300? How amazing would that be?
Dark Knight
06-25-2008, 03:41 PM
but it seems like a surefire way to get some buzz going if they did.
Exactly...if they want to make money....then they freakin BETTER consider something like that. If they don't at least consider it....there idiots.
I SEE SPIDEY
06-25-2008, 03:47 PM
G-d I hate 300, so I hope a Superman movie dosn't copy anything from that "film."
Dark Knight
06-25-2008, 04:40 PM
G-d I hate 300, so I hope a Superman movie dosn't copy anything from that "film."
I don't know about copying but using some color tones that would give MOS a different look, tone and more of a grand epic sense and feel that we haven't seen before in any Superman film before.
thats why IMO SR didnt make more money. because they were thinking to much. i am not saying that the movie shuold be 100% dumb. but lets have some more fun.
so what if they fight in the city. OP killed some people when sliding down the building. so what....SO WHAT.
this is not hamlet. this is supposed to be a big budget summer blockbuster about a villain that is strong and can fly.
they can focus on supermans character when he has a dialoge with lois lane and lex luthor. when he is fighting a supervillain they should just fight....and destroy.
Good post dark, that's how it would be if it was really happening. Superman can't stop and yell "Hey! I'm not suppose to fight and hurt anyone, I'm too good, my dad told me that on the fishing boat, stop hurting people and follow me to a designated spot where we can talk"
To the GP Superman is more about a guy from another planet who has amazing strength, speed and can fly and has to show those powers in order to save lives. I really don't think they hang on his morals like the die hards do. I'm sure they will think no different if Superman and a bad guy crash threw a building like they did in Transformers, it's just a movie.
AragornKing1
06-25-2008, 06:38 PM
Why would Steve Younis say that the contracts are expired when he knew that they were aiming to film in 2008?
:huh:
Are you sure you have your story straight?
I don't think that he has his story straight. He's always inconsistent with his info.
FilmNerdJamie
06-25-2008, 07:15 PM
I don't think that he has his story straight. He's always inconsistent with his info.
Steve always makes me laugh...
http://www.asianweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/urkel.jpg
Showtime
06-25-2008, 07:18 PM
I don't think that he has his story straight. He's always inconsistent with his info.
Wait, Steve Younis or this other Steve you speak of?
FilmNerdJamie
06-25-2008, 07:20 PM
Wait, Steve Younis or this other Steve you speak of?
I think he's talking about Urkel...
Dark Knight
06-25-2008, 07:22 PM
G-d I hate 300, so I hope a Superman movie dosn't copy anything from that "film."
Hmm...you hated 300, but let me guess you liked both F4, movies and you thought Spidey 3 was awesome? :huh:
AragornKing1
06-25-2008, 07:48 PM
Wait, Steve Younis or this other Steve you speak of?
The Steve from SaveSuperman.com.
FilmNerdJamie
06-25-2008, 07:54 PM
The Steve from SaveSuperman.com.
Who?
AragornKing1
06-25-2008, 08:24 PM
Who?
He goes by the username Archangel, but his real name is Steve. He's the blogger Infamous_Emijayne's husband.
Mostpowerful
06-25-2008, 11:10 PM
....
:huh: And who cares about what a 'guy' says on his fansite?! I mean, what makes him special or credible??
FaT_tONle
06-25-2008, 11:48 PM
Thats what I would like to see.....Singer and the new writers should basically tie in the MOS story and leave a cliffhanger type of ending where it would hint at Darkseid for the JL film. MOS should also introduce us to at least one potential JL character and IMO it should be Det John Jones aka Jonn Jonn'z/Martian Manhunter. JL film could happen in 2011 or 2012. I think Nolans 3rd part of his Batman trilogy will come out in 2011.
I think we need to see how TDK turns out before we start thinking about a third. I don’t want a third film just to see a rehash of villains only this time done correctly. There needs to be a compelling story so we need to see what seeds TDK plants into a possible third film in the future. A do-over of villains isn’t a good enough excuse for doing another one. As for the lineup… if MOS gets done in 2010, I think it will come down to BB3, JLA, or a B vs S film in 2011. WB’s first choice will obviously be BB3 but it’s all pending on Nolan of course. Regardless, just because MOS happens I think it is extremely unlikely Bale and Routh would reprise their roles for JLA, which is what people seem to forget. Maybe the continuity wouldn’t fit as seamlessly as it will for Marvel or maybe Bale/Routh demand too much money. I think WB would prefer to keep Routh especially if MOS is successful but as we have learned... anything is fair game. So I expect recasts anyhow. I’d only do a B vs S film with Bale and Routh though.
Dark Knight
06-26-2008, 12:32 AM
I think we need to see how TDK turns out before we start thinking about a third. I don’t want a third film just to see a rehash of villains only this time done correctly. There needs to be a compelling story so we need to see what seeds TDK plants into a possible third film in the future. A do-over of villains isn’t a good enough excuse for doing another one. As for the lineup… if MOS gets done in 2010, I think it will come down to BB3, JLA, or a B vs S film in 2011. WB’s first choice will obviously be BB3 but it’s all pending on Nolan of course. Regardless, just because MOS happens I think it is extremely unlikely Bale and Routh would reprise their roles for JLA, which is what people seem to forget. Maybe the continuity wouldn’t fit as seamlessly as it will for Marvel or maybe Bale/Routh demand too much money. I think WB would prefer to keep Routh especially if MOS is successful but as we have learned... anything is fair game. So I expect recasts anyhow. I’d only do a B vs S film with Bale and Routh though.
I think there is about a 90% chance a 3rd Nolan Bat film will be made. What I don't get is the thinking as to why it is so impossible to use MOS as a sprinboard for an eventual JL film? Why does it seem like the glass is always half empty when trying to use Routh as Superman in a potential JLA film? You say money might be issue....maybe with Bale...but surely not with Routh. Why is it so hard for WB's or some of us fans to believe the WB's can tie in MOS to the JL film and keep it within the same continuity? The only problem I see is not because of Nolan and Bales Batman....but perhaps the other solo projects like Flash and GL and WW that are trying to get kick started. The plan for WB's IF they want a JL film in say 2012 should be for them to get the MOS, Flash and GL films out within 3 years and use those versions of Flash and GL in the JL film IF they try and make one. If a solo WW movie doesn't work out then just introduce her in a possible JL film in 2012. They should try and get a JL film out with or without using Bales Batman. If it is not Bales Batman....then no Batma should be used in the JL film IMO. If MOS ties there story to say a bigger threat being out there like Darkseid in the end of the film and by introducing Det John Jones....then there will be a big buzz about the film and excitement. Which equals more money being made for the film.
dark_b
06-26-2008, 02:44 AM
....
:huh: And who cares about what a 'guy' says on his fansite?! I mean, what makes him special or credible??this is the internet.
you maybe dont care but some people dont.you are maybe smart enough to not give them money but some people belive them.
Ita-KalEl
06-26-2008, 06:18 AM
LOL SaveSuperman.com and Infamous EmiJayne...they have destroyed the life of a lot of Welling fans with their BS. :woot:
It's clear that Routh knows his deal with the WB.
FilmNerdJamie
06-26-2008, 07:11 AM
Oh yeah I remember Steve...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1138/1462805872_10240bf86f.jpg?v=0
GreenKToo
06-26-2008, 07:22 AM
I think there is about a 90% chance a 3rd Nolan Bat film will be made. What I don't get is the thinking as to why it is so impossible to use MOS as a sprinboard for an eventual JL film? Why does it seem like the glass is always half empty when trying to use Routh as Superman in a potential JLA film? You say money might be issue....maybe with Bale...but surely not with Routh. Why is it so hard for WB's or some of us fans to believe the WB's can tie in MOS to the JL film and keep it within the same continuity? The only problem I see is not because of Nolan and Bales Batman....but perhaps the other solo projects like Flash and GL and WW that are trying to get kick started. The plan for WB's IF they want a JL film in say 2012 should be for them to get the MOS, Flash and GL films out within 3 years and use those versions of Flash and GL in the JL film IF they try and make one. If a solo WW movie doesn't work out then just introduce her in a possible JL film in 2012. They should try and get a JL film out with or without using Bales Batman. If it is not Bales Batman....then no Batma should be used in the JL film IMO. If MOS ties there story to say a bigger threat being out there like Darkseid in the end of the film and by introducing Det John Jones....then there will be a big buzz about the film and excitement. Which equals more money being made for the film.
They won't do it though because thats to simple, and W.B. doesnt do simple.
I SEE SPIDEY
06-26-2008, 09:47 AM
Hmm...you hated 300, but let me guess you liked both F4, movies and you thought Spidey 3 was awesome? :huh:Double post.
I SEE SPIDEY
06-26-2008, 09:53 AM
Hmm...you hated 300, but let me guess you liked both F4, movies and you thought Spidey 3 was awesome? :huh:
The FF movies aren't even good but they meet my dumb fun requirements. I'd take them anyday over "300 Fake Abs and Backgrounds." Frank Miller is pretty much a hack in my book and this opinion is solely based on the adaptions of his work, which many claim are faithful. His themes bother me and the movies lack any convincing characterzations and plot. And I know you are thinking that I'm talking about the naked women and booze but I assure you I am not.
FaT_tONle
06-26-2008, 10:25 AM
I think there is about a 90% chance a 3rd Nolan Bat film will be made. What I don't get is the thinking as to why it is so impossible to use MOS as a sprinboard for an eventual JL film? Why does it seem like the glass is always half empty when trying to use Routh as Superman in a potential JLA film? You say money might be issue....maybe with Bale...but surely not with Routh. Why is it so hard for WB's or some of us fans to believe the WB's can tie in MOS to the JL film and keep it within the same continuity?
Why would money be a complete non-factor for Routh? We aren't talking twenty million or anything. But he could be a big star three years down the line. If WB is offerring five and Routh wants ten that may be the difference. ALso in terms of continuity... WB has never done it before... why would they start now? Because Marvel is doing it? That's the only reason I can think of. And if you can't re-sign Bale what the heck is the point of bringing back Routh? It's not worth it. You might as well start from scratch with a new cast or write Batman out. At the end of the day it's too much of a financial risk. WB has enough to worry about with MOS itself let alone future JLA tie ins. WB can't get wrapped up in all that stuff. They need to make a great Superman movie. Not a Superman movie PLUS a prelude to a Justice League movie. In a perfect world that's what everyone wants. But the idea that it increases the odds of these actors returning for an ensemble picture... no it doesn't... maybe delaying JLA in favor of MOS increases those odds by a few %... but not much more than that. And back to the slate... I think 2011 is a risk for any DC film being that it is already slated to be packed with 3 major Marvel films. So I don't even think BB3 is 90% for a 2011 release. Holidays could work though.
batdude
06-26-2008, 03:58 PM
Spidey, see Sin City or better yet read Dark Knight Returns. Frank Miller is not a hack!
I SEE SPIDEY
06-26-2008, 04:09 PM
^I read TDKR's and watched SinCity. I liked the movie well enough but it didn't hold up as well on subsequent viewings. As for TDKR's I can't remember it all that well, I remember liking it though. So maybe all of his stuff isn't crap but I still don't really care for him.
Mostpowerful
06-26-2008, 04:55 PM
Ok.. here is a video of Brandon taken yesterday, if I'm correct; it was just added today, and I think he's been working out because he looks bigger to me.. hmm... he looks really good. :word:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6oEv26N4Q
I SEE SPIDEY
06-26-2008, 04:56 PM
Ok.. here is a video of Brandon taken yesterday, if I'm correct; it was just added today, and I think he's been working out because he looks bigger to me.. hmm... he looks really good. :word:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6Ev26N4QCalm down girl.
Showtime
06-26-2008, 05:24 PM
I actually never really comment on the size of these actors, Routh included, but he does look pretty big there for some reason.
\S/JcDc\S/
06-26-2008, 05:27 PM
That link didn't work for me.
Is this the video that was posted?
Gv6oEv26N4Q
If so, yeah he's definitely getting in a lot better shape. Hmm... Can't help but hold out hope it's for MOS. When asked about the sequel this time he says "We'll see..." though.
FilmNerdJamie
06-26-2008, 05:34 PM
Damn.
Routh looks big enough to eat a midget whole...
GreenKToo
06-26-2008, 05:35 PM
Yeah, thats the same one.
\S/JcDc\S/
06-26-2008, 05:38 PM
Yeah, thats the same one.
Thanks, for some reason it said invalid URL and left a ridiculously long strand when I tried it :confused:
If it's youtube just embed it.
[.yt]123456[./yt]
without periods
Damn.
Routh looks big enough to eat a midget whole...
Yeah, damn he does look pretty big.
Oh and "midget" isn't the correct term...
It's appetizer.:hehe:
nintendo nerd
06-26-2008, 07:33 PM
I don't think Brandon was in a very good mood. And yeah, he does look big, but maybe its for Dylan Dog.
Did you notice that the guy that asks him about a Superman sequel its the same from the other night when he had dinner with Adler, guess he's some sort of stalker.
Showtime
06-26-2008, 07:34 PM
HA HA. It is the same guy, its some old dude who follows him around.
nintendo nerd
06-26-2008, 07:36 PM
HA HA. It is the same guy, its some old dude who follows him around.
He sound like an Indian or from Central or South America.
And I just noticed something else, Brandon always seems to forget to give some tip to the guy that parks his car.
Showtime
06-26-2008, 07:37 PM
Yep, that is the guy. I think Brandon is getting bigger so he can get rid of that guy.
nintendo nerd
06-26-2008, 07:40 PM
Yep, that is the guy. I think Brandon is getting bigger so he can get rid of that guy.
LOL. Could be. You think he is getting bigger for Superman or some other project, like Dylan Dog? I suppose Dylan has to be in good shape?
dark_b
06-27-2008, 02:31 AM
he doesnt look big for superman IMO. but he is in great shape.
if he starts working out from here then he can get a very good body.
i dont care about hes comment about the sequel. means nothing.
Nightwing1977
06-27-2008, 04:07 AM
Calm down girl.
:hehe: :hehe:
LOL. Could be. You think he is getting bigger for Superman or some other project, like Dylan Dog? I suppose Dylan has to be in good shape?
I seen some pic of Dylan Dog & the character is supposely quite a little skinny. At least I can tell he isn't huge, that Routh doesn't even need to get big for the role. I think it possible Routh is trying to work out early so he will be prepare to be much bigger for MoS than he was in SR soon. But who know.
Antonello Blueberry
06-27-2008, 04:22 AM
:hehe: :hehe:
I seen some pic of Dylan Dog & the character is supposely quite a little skinny. At least I can tell he isn't huge, that Routh doesn't even need to get big for the role. I think it possible Routh is trying to work out early so he will be prepare to be much bigger for MoS than he was in SR soon. But who know.
Yes, Dylan isn't and shouldn't be this big. He's not your usual square jawed no-nosense hero. He was modeled after Rupert Everett of "Another country" era.
Ita-KalEl
06-27-2008, 06:07 AM
JcDc: I know that you were worried about the "we'll see" of brandon.
Now you can relax:
"These videos were recorded before the recent Hollywood.com interview in which Routh confirmed that writers were finishing up the script to the "Superman Returns" sequel and that filming would likely begin in early 2009."
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=5129
LOL
nintendo nerd
06-27-2008, 08:44 AM
JcDc: I know that you were worried about the "we'll see" of brandon.
Now you can relax:
"These videos were recorded before the recent Hollywood.com interview in which Routh confirmed that writers were finishing up the script to the "Superman Returns" sequel and that filming would likely begin in early 2009."
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=5129
LOL
Thanks Ita. Good to know. I think something important happened in that meeting with Adler.
Dark_Lord
06-27-2008, 08:59 AM
Thanks Ita. Good to know. I think something important happened in that meeting with Adler.
I hope so. We really need some news. Hopefully we'll hear something at Comic-Con.
GreenKToo
06-27-2008, 10:01 AM
I hope so. We really need some news. Hopefully we'll hear something at Comic-Con.
Or sooner.
Ita-KalEl
06-27-2008, 12:21 PM
Even if I have more than a doubt, I still think that the most reliable source is Brandon Routh.
So IMO there are good chances for the sequel, far more than the Millar's project.
\S/JcDc\S/
06-27-2008, 03:03 PM
http://www.hollywoodbubble.com/2008/06/26/brandon-routh-leaves-the-valet-hangin/
A different view.
Again, the best shape I've seen him in since finishing SR.
Mostpowerful
06-27-2008, 03:17 PM
Calm down girl.
I am. You ain't seen nothing, girl.
Yep, that is the guy. I think Brandon is getting bigger so he can get rid of that guy.
:hehe: lol
http://www.hollywoodbubble.com/2008/06/26/brandon-routh-leaves-the-valet-hangin/
A different view.
Again, the best shape I've seen him in since finishing SR.
yup, he looks totally supermanish.
Nightwing1977
06-28-2008, 05:00 AM
I am. You ain't seen nothing, girl.
Ohhh.....girls fight. :D http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/boxing_smiley.gif
And on the other pic of Routh in the grey shirt, his triceps look huge. Like a big bump.
Clark Kent
06-28-2008, 11:05 AM
He was modeled after Rupert Everett of "Another country" era.
Everett sorry for soldiers remarks (http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jYLpbqi8A1r9YXhVlK_MpgLyV4jg)
:cmad:.
Mostpowerful
06-28-2008, 12:31 PM
Ohhh.....girls fight. :D http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/boxing_smiley.gif
.
:woot: yeah, let's do a mud fight. :funny:
Nightwing1977
06-28-2008, 10:07 PM
:woot: yeah, let's do a mud fight. :funny:
Nah. That too dirty for my tastes. I'm quite a neat freak. :oldrazz:
Mostpowerful
06-28-2008, 10:11 PM
Nah. That too dirty for my tastes. I'm quite a neat freak. :oldrazz:
Ah, how boring......you are missing out all the fun! :grin: :cwink:
Retroman
06-30-2008, 02:12 PM
There was a thread here called Brandon Routh is Superman...where is it?:confused:
Ultimate_Superman
06-30-2008, 03:05 PM
There was a thread here called Brandon Routh is Superman...where is it?:confused:To much fighting in the thread.
Showtime
06-30-2008, 05:16 PM
There was a thread here called Brandon Routh is Superman...where is it?:confused:
It was Showtimed.
Retroman
07-01-2008, 04:32 AM
To much fighting in the thread.
That's a shame cause there was a lot of good info in there.:down
It was Showtimed.
I should have known you were behind this.:o
Something new on one of BR's upcoming movies, Dead Of Night.A Newsrama interview with the director Kevin Munroe spotted via C2F.
Director Kevin Munroe Talks 'Gatchaman', 'Dead of Night'
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6364/dylandogffkz2.jpg
By Steve Fritz
posted: 24 June 2008 02:16 pm ET
When we last looked in on director Kevin Munroe, he was a week away from the release of his all-CGI version of the film Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles. Not that he was resting on his laurels. He was in Hong Kong getting ready to work on what he thought would be his next film, a CGI version of the anime classic Gatchaman.
But a lot can happen in a year. In that time, Munroe left producer Imagi Animation and Gatchaman. Why?
“That’s the big question,” says Munroe from his home in L.A.. “It’s such a simple and complicated thing at the same time. Basically, I was a huge fan of the original series. We talked about it back then. I also don’t think you can look at the lack of success of Speed Racer and say that applies. There’s a power and universality of Gatchaman I think will work no matter what. There’s a way to reach a truly broad audience. That’s what I wanted to do. I wanted to make it a real sci-fi action thing. But as the year went on, there came creative differences. So we parted ways.
“Am I bummed about it? Yeah. It’s one of those jobs where we tried everything and it just couldn’t work. I can’t say I absolutely know what’s good and what’s not, but I certainly knew what I wanted to do with it. Especially after the Turtles experience, where we really wanted to push the envelope and came up against a lot of obstacles. I felt Gatchaman would have been the chance I was looking to push the envelope that was started with Beowulf and Ghost in the Shell.”
Not that Munroe has much time to be bitter. Hyde Park Entertainment (Street Fighter) and Platinum Studios (Men in Black) presented him with an offer he couldn’t refuse. They asked him to direct the film Dead of Night.
For those who don’t know the title, Dead of Night is based on an Italian giallo Dylan Dog. It has been one of the top selling titles in Europe since its debuted in 1986. Created by Tiziano Sclavi, it tells the tale of a former Scotland Yard detective turned paranormal investigator. Although the character is based on the actor Rupert Everett, Brandon Routh was cast to play the hard luck gumshoe.
“You know, I’m really jazzed about this project,” says Munroe. “In many ways it’s like many other projects I’ve done in the past, which is take something that’s purely fantasy and try to ground it in the real world and relate-able to an audience.
“What happened is the guys at Hyde Park and Platinum heard that I had left Gatchaman and sent me the script. After that last experience I was planning to take a vacation, but after I read the script I signed right on. It’s just really cool.
“What I like about Dylan Dog is there’s sort of a surreal realism to it. What I also like is, [while] I don’t mind doing the big CGI fests like the Turtles, this will probably involve more wire work and maybe some CGI. This will all be done much more on location, like right now I’m scouting for some New York shots and checking out various prosthetics.”
Not that Americans should be completely unfamiliar with giallo. Rupert Everett did star in a film called Cemetery Man. It’s based on the Dellamorte Dellamore series that usually back up the Dog comics. Dark Horse also released its share of giallo collections. The titles not only include Dylan Dog, but also Martin Mystery and Nathan Never. Those books include covers by Hellboy’s Mike Mignola.
This genre is also closely identified with certain Italian horror directors, particularly Dario Argento and Mario Bava.
“I have sort of a cursory awareness of them,” Munroe admits when his fellow directors are brought up. “I am ordering a lot of their movies and am expecting them shortly. That was because I talked to the guys who worked on the comic book and they said I should. They’re also sending me a bunch of the comic books, too.
“What’s really funny is I’ve worked with Mike Richardson and Dark Horse a lot over the years. I remember one time Mike asked me to look over all his properties and see if there was something I’d like to develop. The one title I really gravitated to was Martin Mystery, but it was the one property that was already taken at that time (editor's note: it was turned into an animated series for Nick by the French studio Marathon).”
Getting back to Dead of Night, it also looks like a final script is done and Munroe is currently scouting locations. If one thing becomes quickly apparent, the director wants to stay true to the horror title’s pulp roots.
“We’re going full live action,” says Munroe. “It won’t be as stylized as Sin City. The camera and lighting work will be an extension of Turtles, very dark and from all kinds of angles. We should be going back to a lot of film noir if it works right. I want it to be like Third Man where you really have to admire their use of light, especially considering they shot in black and white.
“What I really want to do is as Dylan moves into this world, the audience is kind of taken on a trip that’s like a dark version of Alice in Wonderland. It will get more gritty and vibrant. I want the audience to feel like the world of the supernatural is all around them, but you don’t see it unless you look for it. That’s the world of vampires, zombies and werewolves. You’ll learn how they really function.”
As for Routh? It’s a very different role from his best-known previous job, the one which had people wondering if he was the Last Son of Krypton or the Last Son of Man.
“I think he’s a great choice for the role,” says Munroe. “He’s actually pretty tall and slender, not as beefy as they made him out when he was Superman. The important thing about Dylan is you can’t make him the prototypical tough guy. He’s supposed to be a very real kind of guy. There’s also a natural snarkiness to the character that makes people want to stay away from him. He says it’s due to him living in ‘the cesspool.’ I also think Brandon can pull that off.
“Dylan is just an incredibly intelligent guy. You would never guess when you look at him. He’s a John McClain kind of character. I think as an audience member that’s something you can really relate to. I love the idea that the guy can get smashed in the face and still do his job. Dylan’s the kind of guy who’s got to go through that in order to solve the case. When I first met Brandon, one of the lines I said was ‘You know, it’s going to be a lot of fun kicking the crap out of you and you having to take it.’ He laughed with me on that. He understood. I would say we’re very much on the same page that way.”
As for the prospects of the film being a hit? One can argue that the Hellboy franchise was a true dark horse (pardon the pun) until it hit the big screens. The director himself does have a track record. TMNT did $95 million worldwide, more than recouping its initial cost of $34 million. Munroe also calls on more recent films to back his decision up.
“What I thought was humongous was one day my parents called and asked me if I had seen Iron Man,” says Munroe. “They loved it. I also think it’s a shame that the Wachowski Brothers of Speed Racer didn’t catch on. I love how they dropped you into that world. It all made sense to me. I think what happened is people like you and I, who love that kind of stuff, immediately got it. For other people, it was too much.”
If all goes well, we’ll see if Munroe is correct by Summer, 2009.Source:http://www.newsarama.com/film/080624-munroe-deadofnight.html
Showtime
07-01-2008, 07:17 AM
Good read and good find Retro.
TruerToTheCore
07-01-2008, 07:57 AM
BRandon Routh has nothing Superman needs.
dark_b
07-01-2008, 09:04 AM
its strange. dylan dog looks skinny or at least like a normal guy. brandon in the last video looked like he is bulking up.
hmmmmmm ............... :)
Clark Kent
07-01-2008, 09:43 AM
BRandon Routh has nothing Superman needs.
Agreed.
I Am The Knight
07-01-2008, 10:16 AM
its strange. dylan dog looks skinny or at least like a normal guy. brandon in the last video looked like he is bulking up.
hmmmmmm ............... :)
WHERE AM SUPERMAN????
Clark Kent
07-01-2008, 10:19 AM
WHERE AM SUPERMAN????
:huh:.
Mostpowerful
07-01-2008, 03:38 PM
Something new on one of BR's upcoming movies, Dead Of Night.A Newsrama interview with the director Kevin Munroe spotted via C2F.
Source:http://www.newsarama.com/film/080624-munroe-deadofnight.html
Good find, Retro! I can't wait for this movie to happen. It sounds really cool.
BRandon Routh has nothing Superman needs.
I strongly disagree.
Routh Is The Man of Steel :super:
He absolutely inhabits the role in a wonderful way. :o
Retroman
07-05-2008, 11:59 AM
Good read and good find Retro.Good find, Retro! I can't wait for this movie to happen. It sounds really cool.
Thanks. Yeah it does sound like cool project and since this is the highest profile movie since he played Superman (most likely to get a wide theatrical release) i hope it turns out good.
According to imdb the romantic comedy he's starring in with Sophia Bush is already in post production.So he can start his preparations for Dylan Dog right away.:yay:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1238304/
Superman-Prime
07-05-2008, 12:06 PM
:huh:.
Do you ever heard of Bizarro?
Oh, and Brandon Routh is Superman. :up:
I Am The Knight
07-05-2008, 12:11 PM
Do you ever heard of Bizarro?
Oh, and Brandon Routh is Superman. :up:
Someone got it!! :yay:
Superark
07-05-2008, 12:27 PM
Dylan Dog sounds cool, though it could easily be a mess
Mostpowerful
07-05-2008, 12:57 PM
Thanks. Yeah it does sound like cool project and since this is the highest profile movie since he played Superman (most likely to get a wide theatrical release) i hope it turns out good.
According to imdb the romantic comedy he's starring in with Sophia Bush is already in post production.So he can start his preparations for Dylan Dog right away.:yay:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1238304/
:yay: Can't wait. Hope it's good.
Dylan Dog sounds cool, though it could easily be a mess
Why? I mean, most if not all films can potentially be a mess, no? :huh:
Superark
07-05-2008, 01:30 PM
I guess b/c I was underwhelmed by his TMNT. Plus he's a video game guy. Not to say you cannot come from different avenues and make a badass film. Alex Proyas came from music videos and made the awesome Crow and Dark City films. And even though I, Robot sucked, the visuals were great.
But still, I think the project sounds really cool
Clark Kent
07-05-2008, 03:42 PM
Do you ever heard of Bizarro?
Someone got it!! :yay:
Ah, OK. Forgot about him, :o.
Anubis Raptor
07-05-2008, 05:02 PM
This is awesome news !
Superman-Prime
07-05-2008, 05:19 PM
Ah, OK. Forgot about him, :o.
*snickers*
:cwink:
Nightwing1977
07-07-2008, 02:24 PM
Dylan Dog sounds cool, though it could easily be a mess
We'll have to wait & see. It based on how good the script turn out & if Munroe can direct well.
Retroman
07-07-2008, 04:18 PM
A small update on BR's upcoming film Dead of Night. From an interview with comic book artist Tim Bradstreet with comicus.it (SHH member Carlo Comicus originally posted on another board)
What are your future projects?
I'm finishing up "Bad Planet", a six issue comic series from RAW Studios. Also putting the finishing touches on my new art book "Archetype", it's a 300 page hardcover retrospective published by Desperado. Getting ready to go to print with "Shock Festival". Shock Festival is a tour de force journey through the twisted back-alleys of an underground Hollywood Babylon that never existed, but should have. I'm on tap to production design "Dead Of Night" later this summer. Dead Of Night is the film adaptation of "Dylan Dog". And finally, I'm working on a screenplay with writing partner Todd Farmer for RAW Entertainment based on my story. Hope to talk a lot less generally about that soon.Source:http://www.comicus.it/view.php?section=rubriche&id=1235
Mostpowerful
07-09-2008, 01:01 PM
A small update on BR's upcoming film Dead of Night. From an interview with comic book artist Tim Bradstreet with comicus.it (SHH member Carlo Comicus originally posted on another board)
Source:http://www.comicus.it/view.php?section=rubriche&id=1235
Cool! I'm glad to know that "Dead of Night" seems to be going forward as expected. I appreciate these posts a lot, Retro. :yay:
Also, Brandon (and Dean Cain) is going to participate in another charity basketball game this saturday, July 12 in Kansas City, Missouri.
The game will start at 6:00 pm at the Municipal Auditorium, 301 W. 13th St.
There will be an after party at 9:00 pm at the Harrah's Casino Voodoo Lounge, One Riverboat Road.
I didn't post the link because it's so damn long, lol. But I got it from 'The Sun'. Hope someone can go, take pics and share them here. :woot:
Superman vs Brainiac.
WB, make it happen.
I SEE SPIDEY
07-09-2008, 03:20 PM
^Who knows.
SatEL
07-09-2008, 07:30 PM
Its a shame about Routh I hope he does well in the future and in Hollywood but I cant see him been cast for the reboot.
\S/JcDc\S/
07-09-2008, 07:36 PM
Its a shame about Routh I hope he does well in the future and in Hollywood but I cant see him been cast for the reboot.
If there is a reboot I don't see any of the SR cast involved. I'm fine with a reboot or restart for 2010-2011 but if there is no official announcement of either Superman fans are screwed again.
FilmNerdJamie
07-09-2008, 07:38 PM
Routh will be fine after the sequel hits in 2010.
Superman-Prime
07-09-2008, 10:08 PM
Also, Brandon (and Dean Cain) is going to participate in another charity basketball game this saturday, July 12 in Kansas City, Missouri.
The game will start at 6:00 pm at the Municipal Auditorium, 301 W. 13th St.
There will be an after party at 9:00 pm at the Harrah's Casino Voodoo Lounge, One Riverboat Road.
I didn't post the link because it's so damn long, lol. But I got it from 'The Sun'. Hope someone can go, take pics and share them here. :woot:
Speaking of Dean Cain... he should play as Brainiac for the sequel of SR. That'd be awesome.
*runs away*
nintendo nerd
07-09-2008, 10:23 PM
Speaking of Dean Cain... he should play as Brainiac for the sequel of SR. That'd be awesome.
*runs away*
That's right, you better run. :woot:
GreenKToo
07-10-2008, 07:16 AM
If there is a reboot I don't see any of the SR cast involved. I'm fine with a reboot or restart for 2010-2011 but if there is no official announcement of either Superman fans are screwed again.
I agree. There's very few of us here that would be fine with either a sequel or a reboot. It seems like you have to be either for one or the other.
SatEL
07-10-2008, 07:47 AM
If there is a reboot I don't see any of the SR cast involved. I'm fine with a reboot or restart for 2010-2011 but if there is no official announcement of either Superman fans are screwed again.
I agree and hopefully the reboot is given the go ahead very soon.
Ultimate_Superman
07-10-2008, 07:48 AM
If there is a reboot I don't see any of the SR cast involved. I'm fine with a reboot or restart for 2010-2011 but if there is no official announcement of either Superman fans are screwed again.
I agree. There's very few of us here that would be fine with either a sequel or a reboot. It seems like you have to be either for one or the other.Agreed, me I just want a great Superman movie. I could careless if it is a sequel or reboot. I just want a good movie. I thought SR was great but if the WB went with a reboot I wouldn't mind just as long as the script is on par with Superman Returns script because the script was great. The sad part is alot of it just ended up on the cutting floor.
GreenKToo
07-10-2008, 08:20 AM
The editing needs to be vastly improved upon for the sequel. For one thing, the guy scoring doesnt need to also be the editor.
AND please for the love of Jeebus, no friends and family screening this time. They won't be as critical about it as total strangers would.
Showtime
07-10-2008, 09:49 AM
I wouldn't give Ottman that much heat for the editing, Singer was responsible for the terrible editing on Superman Returns.
GreenKToo
07-10-2008, 11:10 AM
I wouldn't give Ottman that much heat for the editing, Singer was responsible for the terrible editing on Superman Returns.
I just hope it's much improved upon this time, regardless of who does it.
Side note here. I wonder if W.B. will let these L.L. rumors fly around for a while.
I Am The Knight
07-10-2008, 11:19 AM
I just hope it's much improved upon this time, regardless of who does it.
Side note here. I wonder if W.B. will let these L.L. rumors fly around for a while.
Sure they will. They didn't care about Millar shooting his mouth, why would they care about Leterrier? They just won't talk. :o
GreenKToo
07-10-2008, 11:27 AM
LOL. Well, at least it gives us something to talk about besides ''will it or won't it happen''.:D
Superark
07-10-2008, 11:29 AM
God I hope WB finally comes out and says something, or Singer himself! I'm going nuts!
I Am The Knight
07-10-2008, 11:32 AM
Yup. The *funny* debates on these boards are fine and all, but if we are to fight about something, it might as well be something official...
charl_huntress
07-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Maybe we'll hear something after TDK or SDCC.
Superark
07-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Yup. The *funny* debates on these boards are fine and all, but if we are to fight about something, it might as well be something official...
Exactly!
Superark
07-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Maybe we'll hear something after TDK or SDCC.
IMO they need to. This is feeling like the 90's and early 2000's all over again with Supes
Nightwing1977
07-11-2008, 01:09 AM
Its a shame about Routh I hope he does well in the future and in Hollywood but I cant see him been cast for the reboot.
Reboot? What reboot? There is no stinkin' reboot coming, man. ;)
Showtime
07-15-2008, 01:56 PM
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=6969
Morsel of Plot Info for Dead of Night
Source:Screen Daily July 15, 2008
Screen Daily ran a piece about Dead of Night, director Kevin Munroe's adaptation of Italy's Dylan Dog comic books with Brandon Routh (Superman Returns) starring. The article doesn't yield much new info (see our previous report here), however, it does present a plot synopsis:
Dylan Dog is forced back into his nightmare investigations after he is approached by a woman who claims to have seen her father brutally murdered by a mysterious creature. With his street smarts, his gun and a set of paranormal weapons, Dylan attempts to restore order both above and below ground.
Apparently, the film will carry the title Dylan Dog overseas - likely due to brand recognition and other fun things like that... Screenwriters Joshua Oppenheimer and Thomas Dean Donnelly (Sahara) adapted.
GreenKToo
07-15-2008, 03:25 PM
Forgive me here, i'm not very familar with Dylan Dog, but does that not sound like Constantine?
I Am The Knight
07-15-2008, 03:30 PM
Forgive me here, i'm not very familar with Dylan Dog, but does that not sound like Constantine?
I thought the same thing.
Antonello Blueberry
07-15-2008, 03:36 PM
Paranormal weapons? Please no. Don't ruin it like they did with Constantine.
And in the comic-book Dylan doesn't like to carry his gun either. His assistant Groucho carries it and throws it to Dylan when he needs it.
Antonello Blueberry
07-15-2008, 03:42 PM
Forgive me here, i'm not very familar with Dylan Dog, but does that not sound like Constantine?
Do you mean the movie Constantine or the comic-book Constantine?
Anyway there are differences; Dylan is a former policeman, now detective for hire, investigating in paranormal stuff.
You can read about the character here:
http://www-en.sergiobonellieditore.it/dylan/servizi/il_mio_nome.html
GreenKToo
07-15-2008, 03:43 PM
Do you mean the movie Constantine or the comic-book Constantine?
Anyway there are differences; Dylan is a former policeman, now detective for hire, investigating in paranormal stuff.
You can read about the character here:
http://www-en.sergiobonellieditore.it/dylan/servizi/il_mio_nome.html
Kool thanx.:word:
TheBat812
07-15-2008, 04:13 PM
Paranormal weapons? Please no. Don't ruin it like they did with Constantine.
And in the comic-book Dylan doesn't like to carry his gun either. His assistant Groucho carries it and throws it to Dylan when he needs it.
The gun in Constantine was bomb. But I dont want anything like that in Superman. Unless it comes from Darkseid.
wellsy
07-15-2008, 07:37 PM
The gun in Constantine was bomb. But I dont want anything like that in Superman. Unless it comes from Darkseid.
We're talking about Dylan Dog, not Superman. Different things, but same lead actor (Brandon).
Showtime
07-20-2008, 02:30 PM
http://www.nbc.com/Fear_Itself/about/episode_community.shtml
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/Routh.jpg
Community - When a young, married couple find the perfect house in the perfect neighborhood, their lives seem to be following the "American Dream". The dream slowly turns into a nightmare when they discover their new neighbors would go to any extreme to make sure the happy couple complies with their twisted sense of conformity.
Showtime
07-23-2008, 10:13 PM
http://www.nbc.com/Fear_Itself/video/#mea=278527
Commentary on the episode and some clips.
Showtime
07-23-2008, 10:20 PM
Routh participating in another basketball charity event I believe...
http://i35.tinypic.com/29dv0ah.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/24c8jtj.jpg
Christmas
07-23-2008, 11:09 PM
I really want to see him on screen as superman again.
Mogwai
07-24-2008, 12:38 AM
^^love routh!
Showtime
07-24-2008, 04:07 PM
Some clips from the episode which is on tonight at 10 PM featuring Brandon Routh.
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7077
Mostpowerful
07-24-2008, 06:54 PM
I really want to see him on screen as superman again.
^^love routh!
Me too!!
Some clips from the episode which is on tonight at 10 PM featuring Brandon Routh.
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7077
:csad:I don´t know if I´ll be able to see it, I´m vacationing in Mexico right now... *sad*
Nixon
07-24-2008, 06:58 PM
Vacationing in Mexico = *sad*?
I Am The Knight
07-24-2008, 06:59 PM
Me too!!
:csad:I don´t know if I´ll be able to see it, I´m vacationing in Mexico right now... *sad*
Really? You should seek Nintendo Nerd. :yay:
Also, If you're staying in a hotel they probably have cable.
nintendo nerd
07-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Yeah, come visit me. We can play some wii and xbox 360. And watch SR of course. :cwink:
TheComicbookKid
07-24-2008, 07:34 PM
Some clips from the episode which is on tonight at 10 PM featuring Brandon Routh.
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7077
Shiri Appleby, yummy.
Nightwing1977
07-24-2008, 08:38 PM
Routh participating in another basketball charity event I believe...
http://i35.tinypic.com/29dv0ah.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/24c8jtj.jpg
Routh look much bigger now than he was 2 yrs. ago when he did the same thing with the basketball game. I'm sure he was way skinner at that time. Not to mention he was more skinner than he was as Superman at that time as well.
drew643
07-24-2008, 09:52 PM
Watching fear itself right now.liked him as superman but his acting sucks in this show.
Freddy_Krueger
07-24-2008, 11:27 PM
I thought he did a good job myself. It was hard to look at him and not think "Superman" admittedly, but I think he gave a good performance. And, by the way, what rock have I been living in not to know the existence of "Fear Itself" until tonight? This show's right up my alley--a horror anthology show! I thought the format would be dead forever.
Gold Samurai
07-25-2008, 12:35 AM
I'm not a big fan of dark endings like in "The Outer limits" and some Twilight Zone episodes.
I just knew Rouths character couldn't escape. They chopped off Peter Bilingsly's legs so he couldn't run and then they chop off Rouths. Brutal.
Antonello Blueberry
07-25-2008, 01:09 AM
And, by the way, what rock have I been living in not to know the existence of "Fear Itself" until tonight? This show's right up my alley--a horror anthology show! I thought the format would be dead forever.
I suppose you haven't seen the earlier version of the series "The Masters of Horror"?
Superman70
07-25-2008, 05:02 AM
I had no problem as Routh was good. But, some of the lines he was given were well Star Wars Epi. I ish.
Freddy_Krueger
07-25-2008, 09:36 AM
I suppose you haven't seen the earlier version of the series "The Masters of Horror"?
I've heard of it, but never really seen anything of it. But anyway, it looks like I have a new show to watch every Thursday at 10. :)
Retroman
07-25-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm not a big fan of dark endings like in "The Outer limits" and some Twilight Zone episodes.
I just knew Rouths character couldn't escape. They chopped off Peter Bilingsly's legs so he couldn't run and then they chop off Rouths. Brutal.
Ouch! :ninja:
Wonder what the ratings were like with Routh's appearance?
Agentdemon
07-25-2008, 01:15 PM
Watching fear itself right now.liked him as superman but his acting sucks in this show.
He's not terrible but he certainly needs to hone his craft if wants to get anywhere. He got SR because of his looks and right now he's jut coasting on his looks but it can only last so long. It was painful to watch him try comedy on rigor tortoise which is a online comedy group that posts videos. He was all over the place with the character and didn't have any comedic timing.
Most people who love Routh are infatuated with his good looks, so they mistake that for liking him as a person thus are bias with any work he does and will always praise him even when he's terrible. Which really applies to a lot of film actors.
Showtime
07-25-2008, 01:19 PM
The storyline was kind of tired, pretty much a combination of stories like "The Lottery" and other similar plots. In regards to Brandon he was average, some parts he really stood out, others he wasn't good.
I SEE SPIDEY
07-25-2008, 02:23 PM
The show is terrible and the acting on all of the episodes I've seen was terrible. I don't think that anybody will ever be good on this poorly written program. Although I just plain think that Sharri Apply can't act. Ofcourse Routh's acting was bad but that can hardly be blamed on him.
I'm taking a wait and see attitude with Routh because Singer didn't give him anything to do and Fear it's Self sucks.
FilmNerdJamie
07-25-2008, 02:35 PM
Quiet frankly, I'm surprised Fear Itself wasn't cancelled awhile back...
Freddy_Krueger
07-25-2008, 02:42 PM
Quiet frankly, I'm surprised Fear Itself wasn't cancelled awhile back...
The show seems to be getting decent ratings, considering it's on so late at night (the "Community" episode apparently got a 3.2 rating, up from the previous week's 2.9). I actually just watched the "New Year's Day" episode online, and apart from being predictable in spots, I thought it was engrossing. I miss the "Tales from the Crypt" anthology style show. I'm gonna try to catch more of the episodes as they come. Hopefully it is given a chance to grow.
FilmNerdJamie
07-25-2008, 02:45 PM
Well....NBC has their asses handed to em on a regular basis in the ratings war - during the regular TV season. So, I'm sure they're used to it.
I SEE SPIDEY
07-25-2008, 02:59 PM
Well....NBC has their asses handed to em on a regular basis in the ratings war - during the regular TV season. So, I'm sure they're used to it.lol, exactly.
Agentdemon
07-25-2008, 03:27 PM
The show is terrible and the acting on all of the episodes I've seen was terrible. I don't think that anybody will ever be good on this poorly written program. Although I just plain think that Sharri Apply can't act. Ofcourse Routh's acting was bad but that can hardly be blamed on him.
I'm taking a wait and see attitude with Routh because Singer didn't give him anything to do and Fear it's Self sucks.
Only part of SR that I found Routh to do some serious acting was the end when he was saying the Jor-el speech to Jason. Here's the Rigor Tortoise clips with Routh, very lame.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/dc3ce56602
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP5DLcxzL_M
I Am The Knight
07-25-2008, 05:12 PM
I forgot to see it...
ariellem
07-25-2008, 10:18 PM
^ second clip was the funnier one. Liked the ending.
DavidTyler
07-26-2008, 11:15 AM
Eh...
Even now Reeve is still thought of as Superman while Routh is still an unknown.
Believe me, the same people who are saying 'Routh IS Superman' will be saying the same thing about the next actor to play the character and the one after that.
A lot of people are easily influenced.
While I like Reeve as Superman visually, there are times even he left me cold. There were times his Superman was a bit to authoritative. Superman has no real authority. He's just here to help. His Clark was too comedic for my taste. I prefer George Reeves and Dean Cain's take on that side of the personna.
p4poetic
07-30-2008, 01:17 AM
Speaking of Dean Cain... he should play as Brainiac for the sequel of SR. That'd be awesome.
*runs away*
Actually, I think that's a pretty good idea. He's proven himself to be a formidable villain in Smallville in 'Cure' as Vandal Savage sort of character.
Brian Braddock
07-30-2008, 02:21 AM
Eh...
Even now Reeve is still thought of as Superman while Routh is still an unknown.
Surely the fact that Chris was Superman for 4 films and Routh only for 1 has some bearing on that..................
Actually, I think that's a pretty good idea. He's proven himself to be a formidable villain in Smallville in 'Cure' as Vandal Savage sort of character.
Yeah, Cain actually suprised me with his appearance on Smallville. He was better than what I gave him credit for and his acting has come on a bit since Lois & Clark; there werent nearly as many pauses between words as there used to be. :cwink:
He was pretty decent.
p4poetic
07-31-2008, 09:58 PM
Surely the fact that Chris was Superman for 4 films and Routh only for 1 has some bearing on that..................
Yeah, Cain actually suprised me with his appearance on Smallville. He was better than what I gave him credit for and his acting has come on a bit since Lois & Clark; there werent nearly as many pauses between words as there used to be. :cwink:
He was pretty decent.
Oh definitely. As for the pauses, I think that's just the way he chose to have Clark's personality. Kind of nervous and shy, but not over the top bumbling like Reeve's. I never was fond of the way he portrayed Clark Kent.
DavidTyler
07-31-2008, 10:15 PM
Oh definitely. As for the pauses, I think that's just the way he chose to have Clark's personality. Kind of nervous and shy, but not over the top bumbling like Reeve's. I never was fond of the way he portrayed Clark Kent.
I was NEVER fond of the way Reeve played Clark... almost never... I liked the scene that Donner put back in his cut of II ... other than that.. never liked it.
Give me Dean Cain's shy and nervous Clark over the friggin stumbling buffoon any day.
In fact, if Superman were real I'm sure that's what Clark would be like. He certainly wouldn't be the cartoon character from S:TM.
DavidTyler
07-31-2008, 10:22 PM
Oh definitely. As for the pauses, I think that's just the way he chose to have Clark's personality. Kind of nervous and shy, but not over the top bumbling like Reeve's. I never was fond of the way he portrayed Clark Kent.
I was NEVER fond of the way Reeve played Clark... almost never... I liked the scene that Donner put back in his cut of II ... other than that.. never liked it.
Give me Dean Cain's shy and nervous Clark over the friggin stumbling buffoon any day.
In fact, if Superman were real I'm sure that's what Clark would be like. He certainly wouldn't be the cartoon character from S:TM.
BenReilly
07-31-2008, 10:54 PM
I was NEVER fond of the way Reeve played Clark... almost never... I liked the scene that Donner put back in his cut of II ... other than that.. never liked it.
Give me Dean Cain's shy and nervous Clark over the friggin stumbling buffoon any day.
In fact, if Superman were real I'm sure that's what Clark would be like. He certainly wouldn't be the cartoon character from S:TM.
I've always likened Christopher Reeve's Clark Kent to Christian Bale's (public) Bruce Wayne persona. They're both cliches and purposely so. Exaggerated public facades that are the complete opposite of what they're really like. To the point of anyone thinking Clark could be Superman or Bruce could be Batman, is an absurd notion.
TheComicbookKid
07-31-2008, 11:00 PM
I've always likened Christopher Reeve's Clark Kent to Christian Bale's (public) Bruce Wayne persona. They're both cliches and purposely so. Exaggerated public facades that are the complete opposite of what they're really like. To the point of anyone thinking Clark could be Superman or Bruce could be Batman, is an absurd notion.
I didn't like the bumbling Clark because I always felt like that would draw too much attention to himself.
Routh's Superman needs some work, but his Clark was dead-on. He was just a lame guy who sort of blends into the background or people sort of talk around.
Dean Cain's Clark always came across as pretty confident and not shy at all. He actually talked back to Lois on her level so I bought into the idea that she would like Clark.
Superark
07-31-2008, 11:25 PM
I didn't like the bumbling Clark because I always felt like that would draw too much attention to himself.
Routh's Superman needs some work, but his Clark was dead-on. He was just a lame guy who sort of blends into the background or people sort of talk around.
Dean Cain's Clark always came across as pretty confident and not shy at all. He actually talked back to Lois on her level so I bought into the idea that she would like Clark.
I pretty much agree with mostly everything you said.
I liked Reeve's Clark b/c he made himself so different you would never think a guy like that could be Supes. The way he slouched his shoulders, combed his hair, voice, everything. He was the complete opposite of Superman. It was more than just a guy wearing glasses.
But you also made a great point about Reeve's bumbling, it could have potentially brought too much attention to himself.
That's why I thought Routh had the perfect balance with his Clark Kent because he had a touch of bumbling and clumsiness to him but he also stayed in the background a lot.
Dean Caine's Clark was horrible IMO. I mean he was just too outgoing. One of the criticisms Supes has always had was the fact he just puts glasses on to disguise himself. Dean Cain validated this criticism in my mind.
Brian Braddock
08-01-2008, 02:59 AM
I always thought that was the point of Reeve's bumbling; it's like Superman conceeds that glasses and a different hairstyle arent much of a disguise - people will always think that due to his physical traits that Clark and Superman look alike but the fact that Clark is so obviously clumsy and a real doofus stops people from drawing the conclusion that the two are the same man.
The way Reeve successfully portrayed 2 totally separate people with totally different characteristics (voice, posture etc) was nothing short of a masterclass.
Cain's Clark totally flew in the face of that - here was a guy who looked just like Superman but did nothing to encourage people that he couldnt possibly be him. The only difference between his Clark and Supes was that Supes had his hair slicked back and crossed his arms a lot.
That literally was pretty much it.
SatEL
08-01-2008, 03:13 AM
I pretty much agree with mostly everything you said.
I liked Reeve's Clark b/c he made himself so different you would never think a guy like that could be Supes. The way he slouched his shoulders, combed his hair, voice, everything. He was the complete opposite of Superman. It was more than just a guy wearing glasses.
But you also made a great point about Reeve's bumbling, it could have potentially brought too much attention to himself.
That's why I thought Routh had the perfect balance with his Clark Kent because he had a touch of bumbling and clumsiness to him but he also stayed in the background a lot.
Dean Caine's Clark was horrible IMO. I mean he was just too outgoing. One of the criticisms Supes has always had was the fact he just puts glasses on to disguise himself. Dean Cain validated this criticism in my mind.
Rouths Clark was to busy using Xray vison on Lois that it just seemed like he was in the background.
:hehe:
Brian Braddock
08-01-2008, 03:30 AM
Lol.
Yet he did successfully bring a lot of the attributes that Reeve did to his performance.
At least an effort was made to insure that his Superman and Clark were different.
:cwink:
The son becomes
08-01-2008, 03:31 AM
I always thought that was the point of Reeve's bumbling; it's like Superman conceeds that glasses and a different hairstyle arent much of a disguise - people will always think that due to his physical traits that Clark and Superman look alike but the fact that Clark is so obviously clumsy and a real doofus stops people from drawing the conclusion that the two are the same man.
The way Reeve successfully portrayed 2 totally separate people with totally different characteristics (voice, posture etc) was nothing short of a masterclass.
Cain's Clark totally flew in the face of that - here was a guy who looked just like Superman but did nothing to encourage people that he couldnt possibly be him. The only difference between his Clark and Supes was that Supes had his hair slicked back and crossed his arms a lot.
That literally was pretty much it.
I totally agree with this post and feel Routh should get credit too for the dual identities he portrayed. Cain's show was about Clark first and Superman third so I guess they had to make him more confident, which as a result became unbelievable as a disguise. The same goes for Welling, Smallville broke down a long time ago for me, the guy looks like he's 30 already. They've shown his path to being Superman but completely omitted to show his path to being the adult Clark Kent.
Brian Braddock
08-01-2008, 03:33 AM
^Great post.
TheComicbookKid
08-01-2008, 07:23 AM
I always thought that was the point of Reeve's bumbling; it's like Superman conceeds that glasses and a different hairstyle arent much of a disguise - people will always think that due to his physical traits that Clark and Superman look alike but the fact that Clark is so obviously clumsy and a real doofus stops people from drawing the conclusion that the two are the same man.
The way Reeve successfully portrayed 2 totally separate people with totally different characteristics (voice, posture etc) was nothing short of a masterclass.
Yeah, Routh needs to work on keeping his Superman voice deep.
I guess for me it was always the idea that people would look him in the face if he was always falling or bumping into people.
I'm always amazed on tv when people are shocked that their neighbor is a serial killer or something. "He was just so quiet and never caused any trouble." That is the kind of philosophy I thought the Clark/Superman persona should be based on. No one really noticed him.
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-01-2008, 01:08 PM
I thought Routh's Clark was absolutely spot on as well, he was clumsy and bumbling, but not in a way that drew attention to himself, he could easily fade into the background and not be missed.
Also, dont if anyone else noticed, but no ever actually looks Routh's Clark in the face for more than 5 seconds in the movie, i thought that was quite clever.
Double Down
08-01-2008, 04:36 PM
I totally agree with this post and feel Routh should get credit too for the dual identities he portrayed. Cain's show was about Clark first and Superman third so I guess they had to make him more confident, which as a result became unbelievable as a disguise. The same goes for Welling, Smallville broke down a long time ago for me, the guy looks like he's 30 already. They've shown his path to being Superman but completely omitted to show his path to being the adult Clark Kent.
I couldn't agree more.
:supes:
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-01-2008, 08:12 PM
^Well said, Routh's Clark was the best yet IMO, someone you wouldnt even believe was Superman for second.
GreenKToo
08-01-2008, 09:04 PM
I loved his Clark, I just didnt get to see enough of him.
I'd like to see more of his investigative side in the sequel/reboot. Let him break a story by doing what only a good reporter can do.
p4poetic
08-01-2008, 11:01 PM
^Well said, Routh's Clark was the best yet IMO, someone you wouldnt even believe was Superman for second.
I don't think anyone in real life would ever suspect if their co-worker at a newsroom was really an alien from another planet donning an outfit saving the city time to time, regardless of how he acts or looks like.
But that's just me.
I pretty much agree with mostly everything you said.
I liked Reeve's Clark b/c he made himself so different you would never think a guy like that could be Supes. The way he slouched his shoulders, combed his hair, voice, everything. He was the complete opposite of Superman. It was more than just a guy wearing glasses.
But you also made a great point about Reeve's bumbling, it could have potentially brought too much attention to himself.
That's why I thought Routh had the perfect balance with his Clark Kent because he had a touch of bumbling and clumsiness to him but he also stayed in the background a lot.
Dean Caine's Clark was horrible IMO. I mean he was just too outgoing. One of the criticisms Supes has always had was the fact he just puts glasses on to disguise himself. Dean Cain validated this criticism in my mind.
Dean Cain's Clark was far away from outgoing. Then again, depends on your definition of 'outgoing'. Watch the pilot/season one again (obviously as the series continued, he made friends). He kept to himself, he was shy, he felt awkward at the female attention he got from Cat, he was attached to his parents, etc.
I totally agree with this post and feel Routh should get credit too for the dual identities he portrayed. Cain's show was about Clark first and Superman third so I guess they had to make him more confident, which as a result became unbelievable as a disguise. The same goes for Welling, Smallville broke down a long time ago for me, the guy looks like he's 30 already. They've shown his path to being Superman but completely omitted to show his path to being the adult Clark Kent.
Looks? He already is. Tom Welling is 30. But I guess they figure, hey, he still looks young so hey, one more season!!!
hurley711
08-02-2008, 10:59 PM
I loved Brandon as CK, thought he did agreat job with the limited amount of the role he was given, My problem was the Superman side of it, as weird as this may sound it's the way I look at the character. Brandon doesn't look tough enough for me as Superman, he doesn't look like he would strike fear into an enemy. I understand that the reason he is badass is because of his abilities, but for me I like it when Supes also looks badass when he is pissed or has to show his tough side. Christopher Reeve was dorky as CK, looked gentle and welcoming as Supes when he needed to be, but when he needed to kick ass or put on a tough look when confronted with enemies Reeve looked badass pissed off or while fighting. When Brandon walked up to confront Luthor on NK, it was weak for me, he didn't present a toughness, maybe because he looks so young, just my .02
MAN O STEEL
08-03-2008, 02:38 AM
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7038/20070227141333lb7miniatzp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
not_a_victim
08-03-2008, 05:57 AM
I don't think anyone in real life would ever suspect if their co-worker at a newsroom was really an alien from another planet donning an outfit saving the city time to time, regardless of how he acts or looks like.
But that's just me.
Dean Cain's Clark was far away from outgoing. Then again, depends on your definition of 'outgoing'. Watch the pilot/season one again (obviously as the series continued, he made friends). He kept to himself, he was shy, he felt awkward at the female attention he got from Cat, he was attached to his parents, etc.
Looks? He already is. Tom Welling is 30. But I guess they figure, hey, he still looks young so hey, one more season!!!
In reference to the bolded text:
That's all well and good, until both Clark and Supes both simultaneously dissapear, then simultaneously reappear five years later. Heck, they even made Lois and her beau look stupid by having that little conversation about whether or not Clark could be Supes, and they never added the one variable of the leaving and returning at the same time to their equation, and they are supposed to be investigative journalists!
It was a weak, weak concept from the begining. Add in the poor script, crazy costuming, and you get a movie that comic fans just didn't accept.
Superman Returns was a poor comic book movie in and of itself, but if you add in the 70 years of Superman mythos that preceded it, then it turns into a terrible form of Superman media.
TheComicbookKid
08-03-2008, 06:07 AM
In reference to the bolded text:
That's all well and good, until both Clark and Supes both simultaneously dissapear, then simultaneously reappear five years later. Heck, they even made Lois and her beau look stupid by having that little conversation about whether or not Clark could be Supes, and they never added the one variable of the leaving and returning at the same time to their equation, and they are supposed to be investigative journalists!
It was a weak, weak concept from the begining. Add in the poor script, crazy costuming, and you get a movie that comic fans just didn't accept.
Superman Returns was a poor comic book movie in and of itself, but if you add in the 70 years of Superman mythos that preceded it, then it turns into a terrible form of Superman media.
Singer cut out the explanation for why Lois thought Clark was still on Earth. When she asked him, " How was your trip?" Clark was supposed to have been sending her letters the past five years. (It was actually Ma Kent forging letters).
SatEL
08-03-2008, 06:16 AM
Singer cut out the explanation for why Lois thought Clark was still on Earth. When she asked him, " How was your trip?" Clark was supposed to have been sending her letters the past five years. (It was actually Ma Kent forging letters).
So poor film making on Singers part then, I mean he put in a little snipet like Lois and Richard pondering if Clark was Supes. Yet misses to add the explanation as to why people were not saying Clark missing for 5yrs, Supes missing for 5yrs hmmmmmmmmmmm.
TheComicbookKid
08-03-2008, 06:25 AM
So poor film making on Singers part then, I mean he put in a little snipet like Lois and Richard pondering if Clark was Supes. Yet misses to add the explanation as to why people were not saying Clark missing for 5yrs, Supes missing for 5yrs hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Can't argue with Singer's stupidity on that part.
Actually that only furthers the point that people are just too cynical to believe Superman could be Clark. Jason took five seconds of looking at him to realize it. Childhood optimism versus adult cynicism.
not_a_victim
08-03-2008, 07:24 AM
So poor film making on Singers part then, I mean he put in a little snipet like Lois and Richard pondering if Clark was Supes. Yet misses to add the explanation as to why people were not saying Clark missing for 5yrs, Supes missing for 5yrs hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Right. The one weak attempt they had at explaining it, AND IT WAS CUT FROM THE MOVIE?
This was just a seriously flawed movie. From concept to final renderiing, to everything in between.
There never should have been a "Returns" concept, because there is no logical way of having Clark and Supes gone at the same time.
The easiest, most effective way would have been to remake the first movie, but do it in the first act of the new movie, and then move on from there.
Nightwing1977
08-03-2008, 07:50 AM
I thought Routh's Clark was absolutely spot on as well, he was clumsy and bumbling, but not in a way that drew attention to himself, he could easily fade into the background and not be missed.
Also, dont if anyone else noticed, but no ever actually looks Routh's Clark in the face for more than 5 seconds in the movie, i thought that was quite clever.
Same here. :up:
GreenKToo
08-03-2008, 08:04 AM
So poor film making on Singers part then, I mean he put in a little snipet like Lois and Richard pondering if Clark was Supes. Yet misses to add the explanation as to why people were not saying Clark missing for 5yrs, Supes missing for 5yrs hmmmmmmmmmmm.
There have been numerous discussions on here about the poor editing.
Like Lex being responsible for Supes leaving, cut.
The Matha Kent and Ben hubbard scene at the beginning showing that she was marrying ben and moving to montana, cut.
More young Clark scenes, cut.
I think there was also more scenes of Clark reading newspapers and whatnot about how the world was while he was gone.
And the biggest one of all, the RTK scene.
Thats just the ones we know of. It makes me wonder if there are more.
nintendo nerd
08-03-2008, 08:48 AM
In reference to the bolded text:
That's all well and good, until both Clark and Supes both simultaneously dissapear, then simultaneously reappear five years later. Heck, they even made Lois and her beau look stupid by having that little conversation about whether or not Clark could be Supes, and they never added the one variable of the leaving and returning at the same time to their equation, and they are supposed to be investigative journalists!
It was a weak, weak concept from the begining. Add in the poor script, crazy costuming, and you get a movie that comic fans just didn't accept.
Superman Returns was a poor comic book movie in and of itself, but if you add in the 70 years of Superman mythos that preceded it, then it turns into a terrible form of Superman media.
Just because you think that way, doesn't mean everyone else does. I accept SR and I've been a comic fan for almost 20 years. I have like 2000 Superman comic books, so I think I know a little about the character. For me it wasn't a poor comic book movie, I thought it was great. In fact, I think is better than TDK ( And I'm not crazy ). For me the only movies that surpass SR are TIH, BB and maybe Spider - man 2. I know that many people will agree with your opinion, but many of us loved SR, and want a sequel, please respect that, and the fact that there are people that liked the film.
Superman-Prime
08-03-2008, 08:57 AM
I'm starting to wonder how many lovers and haters in Superman Renturns forum.
GreenKToo
08-03-2008, 09:39 AM
I think S.R. was fine for what it was. Would I want another similar to it? No.
It's time to either amp it up, or move out of the way for someone who can.
Mostpowerful
08-03-2008, 02:08 PM
^Well said, Routh's Clark was the best yet IMO, someone you wouldnt even believe was Superman for second.
:up: Yes, very believable and realistic. I've known people just like his Clark in real life. You know, the shy guy that noone notices or pays attention to. And his Superman was also great, majestic, and bigger than life. I especially love his deep voice, very commanding yet reassuring.
Singer cut out the explanation for why Lois thought Clark was still on Earth. When she asked him, " How was your trip?" Clark was supposed to have been sending her letters the past five years. (It was actually Ma Kent forging letters).
She also said, "where did you go, did you meet somebody?" And Jimmy said to Bo on Clark, "he saw the Lamas". I think we got the idea, and that was good enough for me. I hate the spoonfeeding.
Just because you think that way, doesn't mean everyone else does. I accept SR and I've been a comic fan for almost 20 years. I have like 2000 Superman comic books, so I think I know a little about the character. For me it wasn't a poor comic book movie, I thought it was great. In fact, I think is better than TDK ( And I'm not crazy ). For me the only movies that surpass SR are TIH, BB and maybe Spider - man 2. I know that many people will agree with your opinion, but many of us loved SR, and want a sequel, please respect that, and the fact that there are people that liked the film.
:huh: ... I thought you said you hated TIH.
nintendo nerd
08-03-2008, 02:39 PM
:up: Yes, very believable and realistic. I've known people just like his Clark in real life. You know, the shy guy that noone notices or pays attention to. And his Superman was also great, majestic, and bigger than life. I especially love his deep voice, very commanding yet reassuring.
She also said, "where did you go, did you meet somebody?" And Jimmy said to Bo on Clark, "he saw the Lamas". I think we got the idea, and that was good enough for me. I hate the spoonfeeding.
:huh: ... I thought you said you hated TIH.
Things change :cwink:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=307330
Superark
08-03-2008, 03:59 PM
Yeah I wish the scene with Ma Kent about her talking about the postcards she sent to Lois from Clark would have been kept in. It would have explained a bit more about why no one noticed Clark being gone while Supes was too.
gimmen64
08-04-2008, 03:31 PM
Yeah I wish the scene with Ma Kent about her talking about the postcards she sent to Lois from Clark would have been kept in. It would have explained a bit more about why no one noticed Clark being gone while Supes was too.
Yeah, they cut out alot of things that would have made the movie run a bit smoother. I wanted to see more of what the book had in it. Once I read it was totally excited about the movie. I just felt that too much was left out and could have been explained. The movie just seemed rushed to me.
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-04-2008, 04:02 PM
I don't think anyone in real life would ever suspect if their co-worker at a newsroom was really an alien from another planet donning an outfit saving the city time to time, regardless of how he acts or looks like.
But that's just me.
You're right, even if they looked EXACTLY the same, no one would suspect it :cwink: :woot:.
Same here. :up:
Awesome
:up: Yes, very believable and realistic. I've known people just like his Clark in real life. You know, the shy guy that noone notices or pays attention to. And his Superman was also great, majestic, and bigger than life. I especially love his deep voice, very commanding yet reassuring.
I thought he was great as Clark, Superman, and Kal-El, he did a spot on job for me, i just hope if a sequel gets made he gets to do more with the character on the whole.
:She also said, "where did you go, did you meet somebody?" And Jimmy said to Bo on Clark, "he saw the Lamas". I think we got the idea, and that was good enough for me. I hate the spoonfeeding
Personally i though that sufficient also, but i can see why other people wouldnt.
Nightwing1977
08-04-2008, 08:25 PM
I think S.R. was fine for what it was. Would I want another similar to it? No.
It's time to either amp it up, or move out of the way for someone who can.
I agree. Let Singer make MoS his vision this time than another homage. And of course, amp up the action & show Supes throwing a lot of punch.
Superhero789
08-07-2008, 08:16 AM
a few weeks I found in the internet a page at random on a sequel to the superman returns. The background of the page is blue and the news according to the respective months divided. Here you can learn a lot of focus (for example interview with Brandon routh) on Man of Steel. It is very clear and seems to be almost officiell. Do you know this happens? If so, could they tell me the title of the page?
The son becomes
08-07-2008, 08:22 AM
a few weeks I found in the internet a page at random on a sequel to the superman returns. The background of the page is blue and the news according to the respective months divided. Here you can learn a lot of focus (for example interview with Brandon routh) on Man of Steel. It is very clear and seems to be almost officiell. Do you know this happens? If so, could they tell me the title of the page?
Is it this one?
http://www.myspace.com/supermansequel2010
Is not official but it looks as though it is and I have to say I wish it was.
GreenKToo
08-07-2008, 08:59 AM
Fanmade. It's kool though.
smooth3006
08-07-2008, 09:09 AM
i was watching superman returns last night on hbo and i remembered how much i enjoyed it. yes i admit it could of had a better villian and less lovey dovey stuff but overall it was a very good movie. i vote no for a reboot, we need a sequel. :supes:
MAN O STEEL
08-07-2008, 01:26 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.cc48f2f624.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=185&i=srpromo073v4xo7.jpg)
Brian Braddock
08-07-2008, 01:40 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.cc48f2f624.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=185&i=srpromo073v4xo7.jpg)
Awesome shot. ^^^^
The Man of Tommorrow-
Both figuratively and literally.
Nightwing1977
08-08-2008, 10:50 AM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.cc48f2f624.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=185&i=srpromo073v4xo7.jpg)
Wow!! That is awesome. You ought to do more like this. :):up:
MAN O STEEL
08-08-2008, 11:33 AM
Wow!! That is awesome. You ought to do more like this. :):up:
I wish :oldrazz:. Nah I got lucky with this manip. Thing's fell into place nicely. I think ones liek this will be very few & far between. Appreciate the comment though, took me hours :woot:
Steve
Pluto
08-09-2008, 01:17 AM
When's the expected release date for Superman 2?
GreenKToo
08-09-2008, 08:37 AM
2018 the way it's going now, heh.
KaptainKrypton
08-09-2008, 12:22 PM
I agree. Let Singer make MoS his vision this time than another homage. And of course, amp up the action & show Supes throwing a lot of punch.
He'll have to. Unless he uses Zod, Gus Gorman's Computer or dare I say it...Nuclear Man, he's going to have to tread on fresh ground. I looked at SR as a restart/homage to an old film. He's introduced his cast and given you a clue as to where/who they are and this time out he doesn't have to do that.
Even in a film that doesn't contain an "origin" per se like Batman '89, they still have to paint you a picture of who the characters are. The sequels aren't bogged down by that so much because you know who everyone is...now you just get to see their responses to new challenges/situations etc. and work to deepen the characters you've already introduced.
Mostpowerful
08-09-2008, 05:56 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.cc48f2f624.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=185&i=srpromo073v4xo7.jpg)
I LOVE IT!
I REALLY want him to return to reprise his role again. He did a great job in SR.
Superark
08-09-2008, 06:14 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.cc48f2f624.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=185&i=srpromo073v4xo7.jpg)
This is what we need to see in 2010!!!
MAN O STEEL
08-11-2008, 11:41 AM
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7197/20070302152653zt0ng9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7197/20070302152653zt0ng9.c14ac644e6.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=519&i=20070302152653zt0ng9.jpg)
Brian Braddock
08-11-2008, 11:52 AM
He'll have to. Unless he uses Zod, Gus Gorman's Computer or dare I say it...Nuclear Man, he's going to have to tread on fresh ground. I looked at SR as a restart/homage to an old film. He's introduced his cast and given you a clue as to where/who they are and this time out he doesn't have to do that.
Even in a film that doesn't contain an "origin" per se like Batman '89, they still have to paint you a picture of who the characters are. The sequels aren't bogged down by that so much because you know who everyone is...now you just get to see their responses to new challenges/situations etc. and work to deepen the characters you've already introduced.
Grrr.................................I, for one, would love to see a modern interpretation of Nuclear Man.
:woot:
TheComicbookKid
08-11-2008, 04:08 PM
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7197/20070302152653zt0ng9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7197/20070302152653zt0ng9.c14ac644e6.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=519&i=20070302152653zt0ng9.jpg)
I just know they will force those bright colors on the suit if there's a sequel. He blends so much better in the SR color palette.
KaptainKrypton
08-11-2008, 07:23 PM
Grrr.................................I, for one, would love to see a modern interpretation of Nuclear Man.
:woot:
Understandable. I still spend hours (and have typed numerous outlines) for a reconstructive effort ala Lucasfilm to fix the mess that is Superman IV. Nuclear Man is still the villain who put the biggest hurt on Superman. Too bad his mental acuity is more Non than General Zod.
Brian Braddock
08-12-2008, 06:09 AM
Understandable. I still spend hours (and have typed numerous outlines) for a reconstructive effort ala Lucasfilm to fix the mess that is Superman IV. Nuclear Man is still the villain who put the biggest hurt on Superman. Too bad his mental acuity is more Non than General Zod.
That's a good point actually - We all want is to see Supes having to face a viable phsyical threat on screen.
Sadly, facing NM in IV is the most we've seen Supes tested on celluloid so far.
That definately needs to be addressed.
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-12-2008, 12:21 PM
i was watching superman returns last night on hbo and i remembered how much i enjoyed it. yes i admit it could of had a better villian and less lovey dovey stuff but overall it was a very good movie. i vote no for a reboot, we need a sequel. :supes:
Agreed, if a sequel gets made, it will possibly be my most anticipated movie in a long time, I think Singer could give us something really special, and I hope he gets the chance to make it, though that hope dwindles everyday :csad:.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2951/srpromo073v4xo7.cc48f2f624.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=185&i=srpromo073v4xo7.jpg)
Awesome shot, he looks greatas The Man Of Steel there.
Double Down
08-12-2008, 05:23 PM
From the Daily Record in Scotland:
"A decade later, and with more than 40 films under his belt, Vinnie [Jones is] still playing football with a revolving celebrity team, which includes actors such as Jason Statham, Ray Winstone and Superman star Brandon Routh, as well as ex-Rangers captain Richard Gough."
I saw this and found it interesting. That is a tough crowd to be playing football/soccer with.
daywalker2007
08-23-2008, 09:23 AM
well here is some brandon news
well, for some strange reason, Brandon has a cameo in Kevin Smith's Zack and mirni make a porno.
you can see it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K1wBMGSSkY
someone leaked the comic con footage, the clip is near the end.
brandon shares a kiss with justin long.
Antonello Blueberry
08-23-2008, 10:08 AM
brandon shares a kiss with justin long.
In the tradition of Chris Reeve and his kiss to Michael Caine in Deathtrap.
Mikelus
08-23-2008, 03:20 PM
Maybe is time to change the thread title to: The Official Brandon Routh is no longer Superman thread...
:hehe:
dark_b
08-23-2008, 03:31 PM
so i was thinking that brandon is smart.
he has a lot of movies coming out.
so what is this?
is this some kind of joke?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K1wBMGSSkY
I SEE SPIDEY
08-23-2008, 03:37 PM
Hopefully they annouce another director soon and this thread is officially obsolete.
Majik1387
08-23-2008, 04:49 PM
I don't see how the Kevin Smith movie cancels out Brandon Routh as Superman.:huh:
I SEE SPIDEY
08-23-2008, 04:54 PM
^Uh, it doesn't.
Majik1387
08-23-2008, 04:56 PM
Oh, I misread your post then. nvm :yay:
SatEL
08-23-2008, 05:40 PM
In the tradition of Chris Reeve and his kiss to Michael Caine in Deathtrap.
Wasnt that more of a peck rather than a full on, anyway I am here to pay my respects to Routh. Brandon Routh Superman 2006-2008 a nice guy that ended up in the wrong film. may he find fame in Hollywood.
Antonello Blueberry
08-23-2008, 06:00 PM
Wasnt that more of a peck rather than a full on, anyway I am here to pay my respects to Routh. Brandon Routh Superman 2006-2008 a nice guy that ended up in the wrong film. may he find fame in Hollywood.
The Chris Reeve/Caine kiss was far more passionate than this one.
Timstuff
08-23-2008, 06:25 PM
Time to change the thread title back to "Brandon Routh was Superman." :D
Majik1387
08-23-2008, 06:29 PM
edit
Majik1387
08-23-2008, 06:40 PM
Explain please
donk70
08-23-2008, 06:42 PM
Damn shame that Routh probably won't pick up the role again
Timstuff
08-23-2008, 06:57 PM
Explain please
Originally, the official Brandon Routh discussion thread was called "Brandon Routh IS Superman!". However, a few months back in light of news that Routh may was possibly not returning for the sequel (which was then still believed to be in pre-production), one of the mods, as a joke, changed the name of the thread to "Brandon Routh WAS Superman!" It caused a huge uproar amongst Routh fans, but eventually they changed it back, and now the current thread is "The Official Brandon Routh As Superman Thread." :p
Majik1387
08-23-2008, 07:02 PM
Oh ok.
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-25-2008, 08:26 AM
DAMN shame that we wont be seeing Brandon as The Man Of Steel again, IMO they wont find anyone better from the actors of today, good luck in the future Brandon, you will be missed.
Eggyman
08-25-2008, 08:47 AM
^ Seconded.
I never had a problem with that guy. He played no part in the downfall of Returns. Actually, he was the best thing about it - a shining light, a watchfu--
err
:D
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-25-2008, 09:55 AM
^Ha ha, personally, I loved SR, Brandon just made it the more watchable to me.
Showtime
08-25-2008, 09:57 AM
Brandon will be fine. I think he'll have a decent acting career, I wouldn't waste a minute worrying about any of these folks. I'm sure they aren't worried about it.
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-25-2008, 10:01 AM
^I am because I REALLY wanted to see him as Superman again.
daywalker2007
08-25-2008, 12:36 PM
well, im a bit sad over this.
I think Brandon is a good actor and has had to take a lot of the unfair criticism for the movie, even though it was mostly WB's fault for allowing the story of Superman Returns to be greenlit.
if they had rebooted from the start instead of releasing the vague sequel of Singer, none of us would be complaining.
Although one thing I can guarentee though is that this so called Reboot, i think it is 100% impossible to place Superman in the same world as Nolan's Batman.
Having watched TDK again yesterday, the ultra realistic world of Batman just cannot be replicated for a Superman movie. It will simply not work. Absolutely impossible.
If this is one of the reasons why WB is doing the reboot, to allow for a superman and batman to appear in the same movie, then good luck!
because Batman was tailor made for ultra realistic like Nolan made it.
Making superman the same is a tall order. Superman is fantasy, and making Fantasy ultra realistic is not gonna happen, not with CGI still at the level it is.
I wont see another Superman movie unless Routh is Supes. :o
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-25-2008, 02:01 PM
I'm gonna see how this all plays out before I say i'm not watching it, but one thing is certain for me, whoever they get for Superman wont be as good as Routh IMO.
I SEE SPIDEY
08-25-2008, 02:04 PM
^Thats a silly thing to say.
Obi Wan Kenobi
08-25-2008, 02:04 PM
I wont see another Superman movie unless Routh is Supes. :o
I feel the same way you do. This whole reboot thing sucks if they don't use him.
Crook
08-25-2008, 02:07 PM
Need I remind people that you could count the number of people cheering for Routh to be cast....on one hand. Now, there are several people that can't envision Superman without him?
That's beyond irrational.
AVEITWITHJAMON
08-25-2008, 02:09 PM
^Thats a silly thing to say.
Why? Not saying the movie wont be good, just the actor who plys Superman wont be as good as Routh IMO.
Need I remind people that you could count the number of people cheering for Routh to be cast....on one hand. Now, there are several people that can't envision Superman without him?
That's beyond irrational.
Since SR, he has garnered a big fan-base, before SR he was unknown so of course people werent sure about his casting, but as Superman, Kal-El and Clark Kent, they will find no one better IMO.
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