Man of Steel: The Official Brandon Routh Thread

[Retroman]

From Rotten Tomatoes:

Brandon Routh Looking For More Fights In "Superman Returns 2"

Posted by RT-News on Friday, Nov. 03, 2006, 12:49 PM


RT-News writes: "One of the fans' complaints about "Superman Returns" was that Superman didn't actually fight anyone in it. Now that a sequel has been announced, the filmmakers seem to be answering the fans. Star Brandon Routh told Rotten Tomatoes that he's looking forward to coming to blows.

Author: Fred Topel

"Bryan [Singer] said at Comic-Con they were going to add some more fighting elements and stuff like that," said Routh. "That might be kind of interesting to throw some punches or throw something, I don't know, a little more active."

Routh is going to have to hit the gym again to get back into fighting shape, but not just yet. "I think I've got a while. We probably won't start for another at least six months. They've got to get things written so I'm still in the gym. I still work out a little bit but certainly not as much as I had been."

Simply as a fan, Routh is eager to get that first draft. "I'm extremely excited, even though I don't know what the story's going to be, to find out what the story's going to be and excited for them, Bryan, Dan [Harris] and Mike [Dougherty] to go start writing and continue the story. I'm excited to see what happens, where the characters are going to go.""
Source: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=376876

Also looks like filming could start much earlier than anticipated?:huh:

[Retroman]

I hope it looks like this....

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2039/superpunchtb1.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4236/supermanvsmongulyq2.jpg

[GreenKToo]

awesome.

[Jasomius]

Super battles are always fun to watch. They're my favourite part of the Spider-Man movies.

[dark_b]

I hope it looks like this....

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2039/superpunchtb1.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4236/supermanvsmongulyq2.jpgit wont look like this becaise i noticed something about singers movies. he doesnt want that WOOOW factor in hes movies. he likes quiet and simple scenes.

[Jasomius]

it wont look like this becaise i noticed something about singers movies. he doesnt want that WOOOW factor in hes movies. he likes quiet and simple scenes.Not necessarily quiet and simple, but definitely not far too over the top.

[WhatsHisFace]

it wont look like this becaise i noticed something about singers movies. he doesnt want that WOOOW factor in hes movies. he likes quiet and simple scenes.
Singer's action is more grounded, so you won't see people's faces becoming rubber, but you will see good stuff.

I thought X-men 1 and 2 had great fights, and Superman Returns had a good action scene with that plane.

[dark_b]

no no . it is how he shows scenes. he shows them in a simple way.

[Jasomius]

no no . it is how he shows scenes. he shows them in a simple way.Not simple, but not flashy either.

I wouldn't call the plane rescue 'simple'.

[DavidTyler]

I heard the plane rescue was from a script prior to Singer's involvement.

[skruloos]

I heard the plane rescue was from a script prior to Singer's involvement.
Which doesn't change the fact that it was Singer's team that visualized it. And it is true...many Superman scripts have had the plane rescue in them, even your beloved Animated Series.

[storyteller]

Singer needs to let go of grounded reality. Superman aint wolverine. Its time that the super battles in the comics get brung to the big screen. So sissy punches though walls. Time for punches through buildings.

[Dan33977]

This is great news!:super::super:

[skruloos]

Time for punches through buildings.
Seems to me that Superman should try to avoid damage of public or private property.

[The Question]

Still, there should be some good fight scenes. If we want to see Superman physically trading blows with someone, then I think that the villain should be Brainiac, but he created Bizarro as a way of countering Supes.

[GreenKToo]

My biggest fear is that their will be a supervillian,but we wont get to see a physical fight,just a mental one...Or its brainiac,(which would be awesome),but he's just a program in a computer with no physical body.....I'm sure i'm wrong about all that, but still,I cant help but to think about it.

[NotFadeAway]

Seems to me that Superman should try to avoid damage of public or private property.

So Lame.........

[explode7]

^maybe he should do what he did to darkseid in the last episode of JLU.:eek:

[NotFadeAway]

Id love to see a Superman/Darksied story done like S:TAS and JLU!!!

[explode7]

^I've always dreamt of a superman movie modeled after the action elements of the last episode in JLU or a story similiar to that of STAS "Legacy".

[NotFadeAway]

^I've always dreamt of a superman movie modeled after the action elements of the last episode in JLU or a story similiar to that of STAS "Legacy".

Same here. Ive been waiting for something like that for years. Im holding out hope that it will happen, but with Singer attached I doubt it. He will never strip away the " grounded in reality elements " and go balls to the walls. So many people fail to understand you can still have great character development and moments in the backdrop of a fanatical setting!!!

[skruloos]

So Lame.........
You're right. It is quite lame to expect Superman to add to mass destruction instead of trying to prevent it.

[NotFadeAway]

You're right. It is quite lame to expect Superman to add to mass destruction instead of trying to prevent it.

Oh, thats not what I was talking about :yay: . Good job on the " Keep Superman as lame as possible " movement. Thumbs up!

[skruloos]

Oh, thats not what I was talking about :yay: . Good job on the " Keep Superman as lame as possible " movement. Thumbs up!
Wait...I thought people were arguing Superman is supposed to be perfect. If he's perfect, then he's certainly not causing destruction of property. So which is it? Is the character flawed or is he supposed to be perfect?

[Maze]

Wait...I thought people were arguing Superman is supposed to be perfect. If he's perfect, then he's certainly not causing destruction of property.
Yup,

Even more, one can think that knowing the way his home planet has been destroyed, Kal El would do everything to prevent mass destruction .

[Maze]

As for the news , good .

Knowing Singer he will do fights which are dynamics and spectacular but smart , visceral ,and suspense filled rather than video game one.

[NotFadeAway]

Wait...I thought people were arguing Superman is supposed to be perfect. If he's perfect, then he's certainly not causing destruction of property. So which is it? Is the character flawed or is he supposed to be perfect?

Everyone is flawed!

[Retroman]

it wont look like this becaise i noticed something about singers movies. he doesnt want that WOOOW factor in hes movies. he likes quiet and simple scenes.no no . it is how he shows scenes. he shows them in a simple way.
Nightcrawler taking out the entire secret service in the White House(one of the most awesome opening sequences i've seen), Superman saving a plane and space shuttle (just to name a few) are hardly what i'd call 'simple'.If anything those are the scenes that make people go wow!

I'm interested in who Routh will work with as stunt and fight coordinators.

[Crowforge]

This is good

[skruloos]

Everyone is flawed!
If that is the case then why are there so many arguments against Superman leaving for Krypton without telling Lois? Why is he accused of invading Lois' privacy? Why is he accused of intentional murder since he knew that Luthor's goons would not be able to escape New Krypton after he threw it into space?

[Crowforge]

we're the argumenetive sort?

[dark_b]

Seems to me that Superman should try to avoid damage of public or private property.ok then lets put it thatway.brainiac wants to destroy the whole planet. and the only way to stop him is to fight him in metropolis where some buildings will get destroyed. the people are already driving out of the city.

is that good enough? and since it is a movie they can writte what they want.

or we could have just the fight above teh watter where we see three punches and thats it. by by millions and a even lower budget for the third movie.

[Jasomius]

So Lame.........It's part of Superman's character. He wouldn't endanger the lives of civilians just because a punch looks cool. Do you understand his character?

We could always do what Dragonball Z did, have Superman fight amongst cliffs and mountains to emulate buildings.

[Jasomius]

ok then lets put it thatway.brainiac wants to destroy the whole planet. and the only way to stop him is to fight him in metropolis where some buildings will get destroyed. the people are already driving out of the city.

is that good enough? and since it is a movie they can writte what they want.

or we could have just the fight above teh watter where we see three punches and thats it. by by millions and a even lower budget for the third movie.The problem is not everyone wants a fight that is rational, a lot of the people wanting a fight just want a fight that looks cool. No people in danger? Fine. Superman can cause as much property damage as he wants.

[dark_b]

The problem is not everyone wants a fight that is rational, a lot of the people wanting a fight just want a fight that looks cool. No people in danger? Fine. Superman can cause as much property damage as he wants.well its not like superman would want to destroy metropolis. if brainiac is in metropolis and starts to punch superman then something will get destroy. of course after some buildings are down superman starts to fly away so that brainiac starts to folow him to the mountains. there where no peopl eare they can have the epic finale.

see ? its very simple.

and we can get both. we can see some fightinig in metroplis and some buildings get destroyed and tehn we can have the full fight in another place wherer we see big holes in the ground.

everything is possible. but if they dont want to then we will not get it. its all about what singer wants. and if he doesnt want a fight we wont get it. dont try you all to explain me that it is not possible to have a fight in those movies.

[Jasomius]

well its not like superman would want to destroy metropolis. if brainiac is in metropolis and starts to punch superman then something will get destroy. of course after some buildings are down superman starts to fly away so that brainiac starts to folow him to the mountains. there where no peopl eare they can have the epic finale.This is what I have been saying :huh:

[GreenKToo]

Singer likes realism.In real life bystanders become victims all the time,so I would have no problem if he showed that in the sequel...I mean if supes is fighting someone that cant be reasoned with,and is just as strong and fast as he,how can help but ''NOT'' cause any damage??is he supposed to just stand there and die??or run away again??(S:II)..that would be far worse on the public in the long run if he didnt fight..

[NotFadeAway]

If that is the case then why are there so many arguments against Superman leaving for Krypton without telling Lois? Why is he accused of invading Lois' privacy? Why is he accused of intentional murder since he knew that Luthor's goons would not be able to escape New Krypton after he threw it into space?

Im not among the one's arguing those points. I see nothing wrong with any of those events because there justified to me based on the occurences that led to those very scenes.

My problem lies with the general execution of the movie!!!!

[saint sinner x]

Why are they even going to bother making a sequel?! seriously I mean the first one sucked and made no money to satisfyed the big dogs at WB and now they want to put more action in a sequel that's going to have a lower budget? ahhahahahha this is hilarious forget the fight scenes there going to be totaly crap besides Superman can't fight at all. So it won't be nothing like matrix revolution final battle scene. Darkseid is too high budget for the next superman movie although they could of done darkseid with the $260million dollar budget film that was wasted on lame scenes in superman returns. The only villain I see actualy working well with the kind of budget that superman returns will have is of course METALLO and PARASITE. Superman's other main bad ass villains will not work unless of course if you want them to star in the main movie i.e. BATMAN 89 (JOKER). So count of DARKSEID, BRANIAC AND DOOMSDAY. They messed up superman returns and now there trying to fix it This will be interesting oh and I hope I get to see a pissed of Superman in the next film because I am dying to see him PISSED OFF AND GO RAMBO UP IN THAT JOINT. Not depressed and pathetic like in Superman Returns. In that scene where he was getting his handed to him by luthors men I was thinking to myself "Danm they need Batman up in there".

[Maze]

Why?

because it will make money and the sequel has potential to make even more.because as much as you like to think that everybody has your opinion a lot of people liked it. ( and its legs also prove it ) hence there is potential to even gain a new public via dvd ( a market way more important nowdays )

besides , you know there are more imaginative ways than doing action a la matrix revolution (which sucked imo )

ps: sorry that you didn't like it.

[echostation]

look the budget is going to be 150 mill right? So that precludes Brainiac or some high tech or SFX heavy villain in terms of physicality... I think that's why they may go with Zod alongside Singer's love of the Donner Verse which is fine. I don't mind Zod at all personally so long as he's not campy and hammy. The other thing being, fighting in metropolis? Probably not... they'll probably fight in some desert or something or some lack luster area just to save money.

[GreenKToo]

Smaller budget or not,if they dont give the public what they want in the next one,it will most likely do worse than S.R. did B.O. wise.....that means NO ZOD,at least as the main villian.They really need to think about it, if they plan on Zod as the main villian...Even people I know who arent big fans remember Zod,and they said they dont want to see him again.(I was curious so I asked them)

[saint sinner x]

Why?

because it will make money and the sequel has potential to make even more.because as much as you like to think that everybody has your opinion a lot of people liked it. ( and its legs also prove it ) hence there is potential to even gain a new public via dvd ( a market way more important nowdays )

besides , you know there are more imaginative ways than doing action a la matrix revolution (which sucked imo )

ps: sorry that you didn't like it.

If your apologizing to me because I didn't liked it then you might as well apologize to the couple of millions of people who did not like the film at all.

dvd is an important market nowadays? ahhahahah please don't make me laugh.Piracy is going to get even bigger and bigger in the not so distant future people are always going to "DOWNLOAD" the film in dvd quality or whatever they do. Saying the dvd market is a huge market is like saying the music industry is huge you know the music industry lost a massive amount of money at the end of the fiscal year due to piracy. The sequel will not make more money if singer decides to continue the same theme and element of Superman Returns. Sounds like to me that all Singer wants to do is put more action because he believes the movie could of done better if it had more action and he will still have to continue the love story that Superman returns left off in. Superman Returns is the foundation of the Superman trilogy if he decides to make a trilogy.Honestly I truly believe there's no saving the Superman franchise now because they should of made a remake I mean come on $260million dollar budget you could of done a remake instead of a sequel to a film that's way out of this generation. The only way I see superman being saved is by making a remake although it's too late for that. We can all thank singer for destroying the franchise. X-men 1 and 2 were good yes it was but X-men 1 was modernized, Superman Returns setting and characters felt so out of touch and outdated. Lex luthor wants to create a new planet for world domination? That sounds like pinky and the brain.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

Here's the short version:

They should of never done a sequel to a film that's outdated, They should of remake the first film with todays problems and issues more like what the Batman franchise did. Forget about the last 4 movies and they made a kick ass remake which is known and loved by many critics and audiences as BATMAN BEGINS.

[saint sinner x]

P.S. I think that the reason that marvel films makes more money than DC comic films is because marvel films are either heavily based on theatrical cgi special effects or Balanced well with SUBSTANCE AND ACTION.

Dc comics films are only usualy based well on SUBSTANCE OVER ANYTHING ELSE. People love action it gets them pumped..

[Maze]

If your apologizing to me because I didn't liked it then you might as well apologize to the couple of millions of people who did not like the film at all.
And i assume that you are not happy for the millions who liked it?

ahh yes everybody ,but some ,hated is that it?;)

The thing is yup i'm sorry for you and other who have not liked the movie.. i don't wish a poor time at the movie for anybody.

but guess what? People have different taste..

so Superman Returns is not consensual yes. It didn't make Spiderman score , yes ..the majority didn't want to see Superman anyways ..You say that's Singer faut? i don't agree. imo , Singer or not ,they don't care about the character anymore ..Spiderman is the new kids on the block as are cynical pirates and mutants .we live in a different era.talking to a lot of different people well before the movie release ,it was very clear ,to me that even if it was the greatest movie of all time it would not make Spiderman money.

Singer or not ,Superman has the image of a perfect hero people don't believe in that anymore.for them he is unreleatable..boring...

Now,the people who liked and/or understood the movie know that that Superman is deeply human ..that's why i believe now that the word is out , the franchise has the potential to make a lot more bucks ( and in doing more action ,obviously, gain THAT other public )

dvd is an important market nowadays? ahhahahah please don't make me laugh.Piracy is going to get even bigger and bigger in the not so distant future people are always going to "DOWNLOAD" the film in dvd quality or whatever they do.
Say ,that to the buyers of the king kong dvd ( another film who was considered a flop by some people before dvd )

Sounds like to me that all Singer wants to do is put more action because he believes the movie could of done better if it had more action and he will still have to continue the love story that Superman returns left off in.
Nope ,he has been saying well before the verdict was out on the box office that now that he had established the characters ,he wanted to do a more action packed sequel..sound to me the treatement that he gave to X2.


They should of never done a sequel to a film that's outdated, They should of remake the first film with todays problems and issues more like what the Batman franchise did. Forget about the last 4 movies and they made a kick ass remake which is known and loved by many critics and audiences as BATMAN BEGINS.
No problem , but that's your opinion and imo you're wrong...if like the Batman of the Burton era Superman had not really an origin film who was that good , i would agree.

For a lot of people , it has been told ..and in a great manner.

Singer did what he felt he had to do and i agree with his choices ( even if i have or two things to say about the editing departement , and the acting of Routh at the beginning of Sr ) and like prove its legs , different polls , People liked Sr , not on pirates scales but they did , and critics too.And a lot other didn't ..

We'll see what will be the score on the sequel ,now that it did gain a public and with what Singer want to do now ;)

[Maze]

P.S. I think that the reason that marvel films makes more money than DC comic films is because marvel films are either heavily based on theatrical cgi special effects or Balanced well with SUBSTANCE AND ACTION.

Dc comics films are only usualy based well on SUBSTANCE OVER ANYTHING ELSE. People love action it gets them pumped..
Yup like X3?

let's not debate about the taste of the majority ..it's a debate for another board.

but , you're right the majorityy like X3 , and piratess etc.

So? good for them :yay: and Batman Begins the movie that is considered arguably the best CBM (and one of the finest one imo )make less money..;)

Bottom line : you 're right ..now personnaly if a movie justify to have more action , good , if not whatever..

I just care about a good movie :)

[BrollySupersj]

If Master Routh wants more fighting, than I'm cool.

[The Caped Knight]

SUPER AWESOME, A Super smack down fight against a super villian [BRAINIAC]

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Brandon seems a very cool guy and is someone that i thought played a great Superman, i hope we get at least another 2 movies with him in the role. Cant wait for SR2, Singer will make it great i know it.

[toddly6666]

Singer's X-Men fight scenes (Wolvie versus Mystique/Wolvie versus Deathstrike/Wolvie versus Sabertooth) are actually similar to the good fight scenes in Superman 2 (Superman versus Zod and co.) and Superman 3 (Superman versus Evil Superman).

They all have that "let's take turns of exchanging blows" style - punch, reaction, pause, wait for person to get up, punch back, reaction, pause, get up and repeat...it's not like frenetic fight scenes choreographed like Donnie Yen or Woo Ping Yuen. Both styles are fine with me as long as Superman exchanges blows with someone....

[ultimatefan]

I thought the Wolvie/Deathstrike fight in X2 was pretty good. And please don´t give me "Singer didn´t direct it" crap, second unit directors do a lot of the action for a lot of directors, it´s just a matter of picking the right ones.

It´s good to know that Routh is excited for some fighting action, I wanna see how he handles it, how much of his stunts he´s gonna do, etc.

[Shawn_Short]

Singer's X-Men fight scenes (Wolvie versus Mystique/Wolvie versus Deathstrike/Wolvie versus Sabertooth) are actually similar to the good fight scenes in Superman 2 (Superman versus Zod and co.) and Superman 3 (Superman versus Evil Superman).

They all have that "let's take turns of exchanging blows" style - punch, reaction, pause, wait for person to get up, punch back, reaction, pause, get up and repeat...it's not like frenetic fight scenes choreographed like Donnie Yen or Woo Ping Yuen. Both styles are fine with me as long as Superman exchanges blows with someone....

None of those Superman fights scene's are any good, even for there time. Nothing like making Superman look like a b#tch.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I thought the Wolvie/Deathstrike fight in X2 was pretty good. And please don´t give me "Singer didn´t direct it" crap, second unit directors do a lot of the action for a lot of directors, it´s just a matter of picking the right ones.

It´s good to know that Routh is excited for some fighting action, I wanna see how he handles it, how much of his stunts he´s gonna do, etc.

That was a good fight considering he still had a pretty low budget to work with what he did in X2 was great. I think he will get the right people in to make some great action sequences.

[Brainiac 2009]

Check this out:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=658&Itemid=99

1) He unofficially confirms 'Man of Steel' as the title.

2) He's aware of the high demand for Brainiac and seems to like Bizarro also.

3) He says that Singer will make the 2009 film into HIS own and not be another Donner film.

4) He addesses that Superman will fight in this film and do fight sequence stunts.

5) He addresses the complexity of getting Lois back.

Great stuff!

He seems to know what fans want. Almost sounds like he lurks the boards. Genuine respect for the character. :super:

[The Kid]

:woot: There's almost a "Do'h! we should have done this from the start." feeling I get from it.

Two words if they're going to take the amazing leap and leave the 20 year old franchise in the past once and for all.

VAGUE HISTORY

[Brainiac 2009]

I disagree, SR was vague enough that they could still evolve it into a more original story.

All the characters are still very undefined.

Lex was actually released from Prison and seems to have somewhat of a good reputation prior to SR, or tricked people into thinking that. He could eliminate any evidence that he was tied to New Krypton (implicate Superman for it and try to turn the people against him) and thus be in a position of power to start Lexcorp.

[The Caped Knight]

5) He addresses the complexity of getting Lois back.



Sounds like Spider-man 2 Peter getting MJ back by the end of the movie type Scenario . I guess Singer will follow that same type of format which means. (Either in the upcoming sequel or the third movie )"The Secret will be revealed" to Lois .

:woot: :hyper: :woot:

[The Kid]

Frankly, that's ridiculous, Brainiac.

[Brainiac 2009]

Yes, I think Richard will depart in the 2nd film but I think both Richard and Lois should learn Clark = Superman in 2009.

They should also reveal that both Richard and Lois knew that Jason was Superman's child and Richard personally claimed he was the father to protect him (like how Jonathan and Martha tried to protect young Clark from the public).
The way Richard acknowledged Jason in SR (especially towards the end) almost seemed like he knew all along.

The way Lois sounded when Lex confronted her about Jason's paternity almost seemed like she was trying to cover something up for Jason's safety.

Anyways, the 3rd film sounds like the perfect time for Lois and Superman/Clark to be together again.

[Brainiac 2009]

Frankly, that's ridiculous, Brainiac.

It's within the realm of possibilities. Lex has threatened the world with some ridiculous crap in the comics and brought about dangerous threats,....yet the American people still voted him in as President...

If thats possible, anything is.

[The Kid]

Comics, huh... since when do those silly things matter.

[Brainiac 2009]

Wesyeed here, just amuse yourself with this picture

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/Superman%20Returns%20DVD%20Release/SRDVD_002.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

Wesyeed here, just amuse yourself with this picture

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/Superman%20Returns%20DVD%20Release/SRDVD_002.jpg

Ah The Father & The Son . I can't wait to see them explore this relationship in the sequel .

[The Kid]

I've seen it.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/skyhigh250c.jpg

[ultimatefan]

It looks more and more like Brainiac it is. It´s about time the movies use comics villains other than Lex.

[ervann]

I'll definitely put money on Brainiac at this stage. Bizzaro's too unconventional for the mass audience.

This is Singer so I'm still wary of the posssibility of Zod making some kind of appearance, but if done right it wouldn't be such a bad thing.

The 2nd movie definitely needs a built-up to the 3rd though. I'm hoping Singer's got the balls to go with Darkseid.

Anyway I'll bet on 3 of the following rounding up the trilogy:

Brainiac/Zod/Doomsday/Darkseid.

[TheGraphicsGuy]

Bizarro!!! LMAO like hes gonna be in it...

[superkong 500]

I think it will definitely be brainiac, bizarro would be much dificult to sell, audiences would just see him as a bad superman so visually is not that interesting. With brainiac there's so many possibilities vissualy speaking.

Plus he could be a great challenge for supes both physically and intelectually. A least we know he won't come up with a real estate scheme.

[JayKay]

Of course people will still say Singer will use Zod.

[BareKnucklez]

I've seen it.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/skyhigh250c.jpg

That gives me nightmares right there!

[Spade]

I always saw Bizzaro as stupid, Darkseid as too complicated, Doomsday as too much of an association with Superman's death and Zod as better left in the vague history. So if I had to definitively pick for myself, I'd say Braniac. The game left his presence suspiciously absent, if that's a sign of anything.

[Showtime]

Bizzaro would be an amazing choice if they made a sinister version of the character rather than a goofy bumbling caped idiot.

[Spade]

Bizzaro would be an amazing choice if they made a sinister version of the character rather than a goofy bumbling caped idiot.

"If"- the ultimate muse. My only issue with that is that we all know there's going to be that gaggle of fanboys screeching "Singer's raping Bizarro's character! He's emo now, like Singerman!" :whatever:

[Robin91939]

I'm really glad to see that he said 'there's a lot of talk about Brainiac, everyone wants to see Brainiac".
Is he saying the producers? Or fans? Something to think about.

-R

[superdupersuper]

why does there only have to be one villian?

why not have both brainiac and bizarro,

bizarro is not that difficult to create within the world of the movie,

have 2 villians up against superman,


and also it would show brandons acting range by having him play a good superman and also a more sinister and evil superman.

[dark_b]

until they dont confirm brainiac is will think that there is a 90% chance for zod.

[Robin91939]

why does there only have to be one villian?

why not have both brainiac and bizarro,

bizarro is not that difficult to create within the world of the movie,

have 2 villians up against superman,


and also it would show brandons acting range by having him play a good superman and also a more sinister and evil superman.
How would they swing Bizzaro though?

Lex doesn't exactly have the resources to create him. And not many want Lex to be at the forefront of the film.

Are they going to have Brainiac creat another Superman based on the blood samples of the Kryptonian on New Krypton? Will he create a clone of Superman to test his own powers against him, but make him somewhat flawed to only obey Brainiac? Will he use this clone to help him wage war on the Man of Steel and Metropolis when he arrives at earth? If that's the case you'd have to do a number of things. Explain where Bizzaro gets a costume among other things.

He just seems a little complicated. I wouldn't mind metallo or parasite. Have two villains work independantly. Then team up and have Brainiac double cross the other...that's just how he is.

-R

[toddly6666]

Brainiac and Bizarro would be perfect villains - Bizarro would do Brainiac's dirty work. When Superman is through kicking Bizarro's ass, then Superman and Brainiac can fight it out. It would be genius to have those two villains. Isn't Bizarro a victim-frankenstein-type villain anyway, one that you feel empathy for? That's why Bizarro is a better character than Doomsday. You can work with the character of Bizarro. Doomsday is just a killing machine with no depth.

Remember the villains that Singer chose for X-Men and X-Men 2 - Toad, Lady Deathstryke, Stryker? These villains aren't the first choices that one would think of for an X-Men movie. So, Singer choosing Bizarro or Brainiac is not a big deal - they are not even that obscure characters.

[BareKnucklez]

http://www.otrnow.com/store/dvd/1011F.jpg
Heh this should be the sequel to Superman Returns!

[JayKay]

until they dont confirm brainiac is will think that there is a 90% chance for zod.Because you enjoy making baseless assumptions? :huh:

[dark_b]

Because you enjoy making baseless assumptions? :huh:its singer :woot:

[JayKay]

its singer :woot:You mean the guy that has never mentioned Zod? The guy who, as stated in the first post of this thread, wants to move away from the Donner movies and create his own vision? That guy?

[Dan33977]

Ah, this gets me so excited for the sequel! And I'm so happy that Singer and Routh are going to do it. Routh really seems to love this character, and it shows in this interview, too. I just loved SUPERMAN RETURNS—it's such a beautiful, emotional film with, in my opinion, excellent action and characterization. I'm also happy he mentioned Bizarro, another villain besides Brainiac (don't get me wrong, Brainiac is awesome, but it's nice to have a variety of rumors circulating). I've always thought if Bizarro were ever to appear in a modern-day SUPERMAN film that he obviously would be a more serious, evil, sinister version of Superman (a la SUPERMAN III), not the lame, cartoon caricature of the comic books. I also cannot wait to see what Singer does with Lois, Richard, and Jason. And I hope Spacey returns as Lex Luthor.

[dark_b]

You mean the guy that has never mentioned Zod? The guy who, as stated in the first post of this thread, wants to move away from the Donner movies and create his own vision? That guy?you really want to be a smart right? you want that i post all interwievs of singer? you really want to see wha he said about SR? than we will see what was true and what not .

[JayKay]

you really want to be a smart right? you want that i post all interwievs of singer? you really want to see wha he said about SR? than we will see what was true and what not .You do what you want, but what he has done in SR is old news, what we are talking about is the sequel, and now Singer is going in a different direction. Away from the Donner films.

[dark_b]

You do what you want, but what he has done in SR is old news, what we are talking about is the sequel, and now Singer is going in a different direction. Away from the Donner films.are you making fun of me? you are saying that you belive what ehe said. i am trying to explain to you that he said a lot of things for SR and a lot of them were nto true.

is this clear enough?

[dark_b]

basicly brandon is reading forums. it is obvious plus he visits hes site. so he is actually talking about what we are talking .

[Morg]

superbaby, keep those induendos out of this board

[MaskedManJRK]

Possible villians for sequel:

Brainiac
Darkseid
Doomsday
Bizarro
Metallo
Parasite

Out of them, I kinda hope it's either Bizarro or Parasite, with hints of either Brainiac or (my real hope) Darkseid so to have a whole invasion of Earth by Apocolypis in the third movie. :up:

[Lando81]

Im looking forward to The Man of Steel. Even Though i think its a complete rip off of TDK's Title's scheme.

[Robin91939]

Im looking forward to The Man of Steel. Even Though i think its a complete rip off of TDK's Title's scheme.

No...it's a pattern. They are sister franchises.

BATMAN BEGINS
SUPERMAN RETURNS

Both are the hero's names and the basic description of what they are doing in the film. An origin for Batman and a return for Superman.

THE DARK KNIGHT
THE MAN OF STEEL

Both are the hero's most used "nicknames" or alternative names.

The third film will probably either be another alternative name ala
THE LAST SON, MAN OF TOMORROW, GOTHAM'S GUARDIAN, or SHADOW OF THE BAT. Or it will be the name of the character and another verb ala BATMAN BECOMES, SUPERMAN PREVAILS (dumb titles just examples).

They are developing a pattern with the franchises, keeping them familiar and recognizable with one another (note the titles and the mention of Gotham in SUPERMAN RETURNS...not an accident) so that they can have if they want a BATMAN/SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST film in the future. It's a smart move if you ask me.

-R

[M.O.Steel]

That gives me nightmares right there!

have you seen it? it's actaully not half bad. you'll like the twist in the end, especailly if you're a superman fan.

[Steelsheen]

No...it's a pattern. They are sister franchises.

BATMAN BEGINS
SUPERMAN RETURNS

Both are the hero's names and the basic description of what they are doing in the film. An origin for Batman and a return for Superman.

THE DARK KNIGHT
THE MAN OF STEEL

Both are the hero's most used "nicknames" or alternative names.

The third film will probably either be another alternative name ala
THE LAST SON, MAN OF TOMORROW, GOTHAM'S GUARDIAN, or SHADOW OF THE BAT. Or it will be the name of the character and another verb ala BATMAN BECOMES, SUPERMAN PREVAILS (dumb titles just examples).

They are developing a pattern with the franchises, keeping them familiar and recognizable with one another (note the titles and the mention of Gotham in SUPERMAN RETURNS...not an accident) so that they can have if they want a BATMAN/SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST film in the future. It's a smart move if you ask me.

-R

brilliant post :up:

[Sam Fisher]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=91402444&blogID=231416901&MyToken=1664ecb0-ac3d-4357-85c7-fd33853c6089

Might not be the real BR but who cares.

[Showtime]

Heh Heh...that isn't real.

[wellsy]

We don't get much snow in Australia. Its only on the mountains (not even Tasmania gets snow!!)

[Batman1939]

We don't get much snow in Australia. Its only on the mountains (not even Tasmania gets snow!!)

true that

[FanboyX_Returns]

"Don't Run. It recks you're heart" If that's really him then he is a complete idiot...


Friday, January 05, 2007

Just a Quick Message

Hello Everyone.
How are you all? I'm doing fine...I have some bad news...I won't be on much anymore...starting fliming on Jan 10th 2007 to March 17th 2009...Busy...Busy...Busy...But please keep me updated whats going on in America. or wherever you are...Please remember i wont have time to message you all back...Thats goes to you too Ash & J " You know who you are"

God Bess and Take Care...

Love you so much...

Brandon Routh " BJ"

That's from another blog... LOL "Busy...Busy...Busy..." What MAN talks like that?

[LordJK]

^
Your obsession with Brandon being gay is quite unsettling.

[cryptic name]

i thought brandon routh was married?

[Showtime]

"Don't Run. It recks you're heart" If that's really him then he is a complete idiot...



That's from another blog... LOL "Busy...Busy...Busy..." What MAN talks like that?
That's either a little highschool chick whos a fan or Brandon's a faygele for real! :wow:

http://myspace-772.vo.llnwd.net/01545/27/74/1545234772_l.jpg
Someone tell him that rocking rainbows on your clothing isn't going to help your street cred, and or make people think that your not.... You know the "banned word."
Seriously man butch up! :woot:

If you knew anything about fashion you would know that vest with the multi colors is actually a retro look. :whatever:

[bunk]

Yeah, last time I checked rainbows didn't include brown and white.

[skruloos]

Yeah, last time I checked rainbows didn't include brown and white.
Depends on how much smog is in the air.

[Showtime]

Depends on how much smog is in the air.

You must be from the "Left Coast" :dry:

[Pickle-El]

"Don't Run. It recks you're heart" If that's really him then he is a complete idiot...



That's from another blog... LOL "Busy...Busy...Busy..." What MAN talks like that?
That's either a little highschool chick whos a fan or Brandon's a faygele for real! :wow:

http://myspace-772.vo.llnwd.net/01545/27/74/1545234772_l.jpg
Someone tell him that rocking rainbows on your clothing isn't going to help your street cred, and or make people think that your not.... You know the "banned word."
Seriously man butch up! :woot:

I'm one who's surprised you've stayed here this long with remarks like this.....

[DorkyFresh]

I'm one who's surprised you've stayed here this long with remarks like this.....

what he ^ said.

[FanboyX_Returns]

I'm one who's surprised you've stayed here this long with remarks like this.....

your one to talk you used to flame on the movie, and Brandon yourself... Don't get all high, and mighty on me Pickle you have your history to with trash talking on here, and at BT.


If you knew anything about fashion you would know that vest with the multi colors is actually a retro look.

IT WAS A JOKE GUYS get over it...

[Showtime]

IT WAS A JOKE GUYS get over it...

I was just messin around man, hence my rolling eyes, and fashion comment? :cwink:

[FanboyX_Returns]

I was just messin around man, hence my rolling eyes, and fashion comment? :cwink:

lol :woot: tis all good homey...

[Showtime]

lol :woot: tis all good homey...

That vest really reminds me of Three's Company for some reason...

http://www.espritlibre.ws/celebrities/photos/340627/threescompany-joycedewitt.jpg

[TheBat812]

Nobody commented on the fact that he says he'll be shooting since January all the way to March 2009... yea.... a ****ing 2 year shoot sounds real! How about the fact that the sequel doesn't have a script yet? how could anybody be stupid enough to think this is real?

[Sam Fisher]

Nobody commented on the fact that he says he'll be shooting since January all the way to March 2009... yea.... a ****ing 2 year shoot sounds real! How about the fact that the sequel doesn't have a script yet? how could anybody be stupid enough to think this is real?Never said it was real.

[KrypJonian]

It doesn't have to be real.

It's funny:)

[gdw]

Yeah, because the running time and rating of a film is detirmined LONG before the script has even begun to be written.

[Captain Villa]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=19777240

That is his real myspace.

[Showtime]

Interesting. I wonder who is in charge of running it.

[BareKnucklez]

Interesting. I wonder who is in charge of running it.

Wild guess here but probably the same people who ran his Friendster page, and his other Official webpages.


:woot:

[gimmen64]

If I were Routh I would go in and report this crap to Myspace and all the other pages that were using my name. Its stupid people that write this crap. If they didn't do anything I would go ahead and sue those websites that didn't comply, to an extent that's idenitity theft.

[lordofthenerds]

Nevermind.

[Showtime]

Wild guess here but probably the same people who ran his Friendster page, and his other Official webpages.


:woot:

Friendster, you mean the Bizzaro Myspace.

[BareKnucklez]

Friendster, you mean the Bizzaro Myspace.


heh yea Friendster was around first but didnt take off like Myspace did...

Myspace Rules all! :woot:

[Showtime]

I read an article about that, and saw that Friendster started up before Myspace, even though it looks minor league.

[BareKnucklez]

I read an article about that, and saw that Friendster started up before Myspace, even though it looks minor league.

Yea hence why it never took off like MySpace heh...
Friendster is pretty decent it just doesn't have the freedom to modify the account how MySpace does.

[Showtime]

Yeah I noticed that, it's just the basic template.

[BareKnucklez]

Yeah I noticed that, it's just the basic template.

Yeah you would think after MySpace blew up that they would change that.

[Steelsheen]

i thought brandon routh was married?
from what i know he's getting married towards the end of this year.

That vest really reminds me of Three's Company for some reason...

http://www.espritlibre.ws/celebrities/photos/340627/threescompany-joycedewitt.jpg
ah the good ol' days :(

I read an article about that, and saw that Friendster started up before Myspace, even though it looks minor league.
it was pretty huge when it started. couldnt get a decent conversation in school w/o someone mentioning the damn thing. :D

[Showtime]

That is amazing. I never heard of it, I only heard Myspace, Myspace, Myspace...

[BareKnucklez]

That is amazing. I never heard of it, I only heard Myspace, Myspace, Myspace...


Yeah there's a few diffrent myspace like sites out there...

[Showtime]

Superman wins Sportsmanship Award
posted by Justin on 04/05/07

At 3:21 on Saturday, March 31st, Superman star Brandon Routh became the first recipient of the "Sportsmanship Award" at the NBA Entertainment League Championship. The NBA has a blog of the entire event here (http://www.nba.com/nbae/supersaturday_nbae_blog.html). Upon recieving the award, Routh mentioned the Superman sequel filming next year:
"I'm really honored," Routh told me. "I want to keep doing the league. I might have trouble with it next year, I'll be away filming a sequel, but I'm going to try to play half the season." Click the link above for a full recap of the day's events.
*Thanks to Justin & Bluetights

[Steelsheen]

yeah you can say he confirms it.

but i think he's just parroting what WB has already said in the past, which is that there is a Superman Returns sequel hopefully out by 2009.

[Kid_Kaos]

Untill WB takes a look at the final script and makes a decision, nothing is "on" or "off".

[superbaby]

Untill WB takes a look at the final script and makes a decision, nothing is "on" or "off".
that's right.
btw, no one offering him any new job yet? (aside the so-called two offers)

[dark_b]

that's right.
btw, no one offering him any new job yet? (aside the so-called two offers)you just like doing this right?
he is making two moveis. what do you want?

[dark_b]

Untill WB takes a look at the final script and makes a decision, nothing is "on" or "off".singer is signed to do a sequel.
of course if they wont like the script they will say him that he should change somethings.
but the sequel is being made with singer and routh right? i mean if they talk about it.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not really a confirmation as such, but so far everything is pointing to a Singer directed sequel in '09.

[Showtime]

Well that's why I put the question mark in there...

[GreenKToo]

Like we discussed before, I think routh WILL return, regardless of who directs.;)Well that's why I put the question mark in there...

[AgentPat]

Like we discussed before, I think routh WILL return, regardless of who directs.;)http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/prize2.gif

[GreenKToo]

It may surprise you to know that I wasnt against welling, and I'm still not. I think he would have did fine.:)http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/prize2.gif

[Kid_Kaos]

singer is signed to do a sequel.
of course if they wont like the script they will say him that he should change somethings.
but the sequel is being made with singer and routh right? i mean if they talk about it.
Singer signed to do deliver a sequel-script with the option for WB to let him direct it - nothing more. Same situation like Smith, Burton, Ratner ... .
WB can change their minds whenever they want and pay Singer out of the deal. "Superman Lives" anyone?

The cast signed a 3 picture deal cause that's how it's done with those kind of projects. The new cast from X-3 also signed for X-4 and X-5, which are not going to happen anytime soon and have also no stories laid out for by now. The same like Bond, Batman, Spider-Man, Ghost Rider, ... .

The whole talk about "smaller budget - more action" is pure speculation cause nothing is set in stone as of now. If the script is liked by the WB guys, they will give Singer whatever he needs.

And I never read about Singer having any idea for 3 movies. All he said was that he and his friends came up with an idea for a Superman movie during a flight to wherever, I don't remember. Anything else is pure speculation from fanboys. Otherwise Singer would've laid out a possible sequel-connection in the end of SR. And he couldn't even answer the question for a sequel story or villain at Comic Con last summer.
The movie was a complete closure of Superman and Lois and a clear "Goodbye" and "Thank You" to Donner. Hence why no one knows what the hell Singer will build up on for a sequel. If he's not going for a "vague sequel" he has absolutely nothing interesting to tell with that kind of "setup". Unless you want to see "Singerman and Singerson" you better root for a post-crisis reboot.

[dark_b]

Singer signed to do deliver a sequel-script with the option for WB to let him direct it - nothing more. Same situation like Smith, Burton, Ratner ... .
WB can change their minds whenever they want and pay Singer out of the deal. "Superman Lives" anyone?

The cast signed a 3 picture deal cause that's how it's done with those kind of projects. The new cast from X-3 also signed for X-4 and X-5, which are not going to happen anytime soon and have also no stories laid out for by now. The same like Bond, Batman, Spider-Man, Ghost Rider, ... .

The whole talk about "smaller budget - more action" is pure speculation cause nothing is set in stone as of now. If the script is liked by the WB guys, they will give Singer whatever he needs.

And I never read about Singer having any idea for 3 movies. All he said was that he and his friends came up with an idea for a Superman movie during a flight to wherever, I don't remember. Anything else is pure speculation from fanboys. Otherwise Singer would've laid out a possible sequel-connection in the end of SR. And he couldn't even answer the question for a sequel story or villain at Comic Con last summer.
The movie was a complete closure of Superman and Lois and a clear "Goodbye" and "Thank You" to Donner. Hence why no one knows what the hell Singer will build up on for a sequel. If he's not going for a "vague sequel" he has absolutely nothing interesting to tell with that kind of "setup". Unless you want to see "Singerman and Singerson" you better root for a post-crisis reboot.well but if they are waiting for singer and the script that means that they have now plans to do a movie with him right?
its not like that they want to make a sequel but that they dont want singer. right?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Brandon had this to say after winning 'Best Male Newcomer' in the Empire awards, again not a confirmation as such, but more info that at least points to a Singer sequel:

"Thankyou very much to the readers of Empire for this award. Its very cool to be honoured this way by the people who know. The award is sitting on the table right now because i dont have a whole lot of room were i am. But some day i'm gonna make a cool display case for it. Its a nice thing to see around the house. I promise much more excitement and even better Superman lore coming up soon. Superman will return again!."

Glad he won and glad he dropped a tidbit in about the sequel also. This was in the latest issue of Empire BTW.

[Matt]

Well of course he is promoting it. If Routh doesn't get SR2 his career is essentially over.

Despite things like "best new comer" it really is a category without competition and he really didn't impress anyone. He proved to no one that he can carry a movie. He proved to no one that he can act (possibly not by fault of his own, simply because Singer did NOT allow him to. He had very little dialogue. He had very little chance to display any talents he may or may not have. Lets face it...he was essentially hired because he looks like Chris Reeve. He was never allowed to show his talents beyond that. Therefore no one is looking at Brandon Routh as the next big thing. Hell, they aren't even looking at him as a box office draw. He is nothing right now. He NEEDS SR 2 or he will be doing some small play in Atlanta for 300 bucks a week for the rest of his life.

[Maze]

Well i dunno Matt , i know two or three things about acting and even if yes delivery is important , the base is body language .Routh even if not perfect had it imo.

As for Routh movie goers and public reception i dunno the basis of your opinion but , to my knowledge if there is one "thing" about Returns that has been liked that is Routh .

[Excel]

matt, he proved to a lot of peopel he can act. nearly all critics accepted him. Your ponts are fan observations that eople have talked up so much that some are actually starting to believe them.

[Showtime]

Whether Routh will turn into a great actor remains to be seen. We have basically only seen him in two roles, Superman and Clark Kent. I thought he really showed his comedic side as Clark Kent and really had fun with it. As Superman I saw a presence on screen but wish he had more lines, especially with Lex.

Routh is now Superman to me, and in the sequel I hope he gets a chance to run with the role and make it his own. From what I heard everybody involved has the same feeling about Routh, if there was a reboot he would be the most difficult one to cut away. He is universally liked as Superman.

[Matt]

matt, he proved to a lot of peopel he can act. nearly all critics accepted him. Your ponts are fan observations that eople have talked up so much that some are actually starting to believe them.

It doesn't matter if they accepted him as Superman. He has yet to be accepted as a good actor. He does not have roles being thrown at him. He doesn't have draw, he doesn't have power. Hes got nothing you'd expect a new actor to get after a huge blockbuster role like Superman. He NEEDS SR2. He has to prove that he has depth and more importantly he has to prove he can be a box office draw. Otherwise his career is over.

[gimmen64]

It doesn't matter if they accepted him as Superman. He has yet to be accepted as a good actor. He does not have roles being thrown at him. He doesn't have draw, he doesn't have power. Hes got nothing you'd expect a new actor to get after a huge blockbuster role like Superman. He NEEDS SR2. He has to prove that he has depth and more importantly he has to prove he can be a box office draw. Otherwise his career is over.

What you have said is true. Its like Jackman needed X2 to seal his boxoffice status. If Routh makes the right career choices, he will be remembered for his other roles. I'm looking foward the sequel and have a feeling that the next Superman film will make or break Routh's career.

[Matt]

What you have said is true. Its like Jackman needed X2 to seal his boxoffice status. If Routh makes the right career choices, he will be remembered for his other roles. I'm looking foward the sequel and have a feeling that the next Superman film will make or break Routh's career.

I don't even think that was the case for Jackman. Following X-Men, he had all kinds of offers being thrown at him. Swordfish was a pretty big budget with an impressive cast. He signed for Van Helsing before X2 was released. Jackman had to beat off roles with a stick. And in all honesty, that is probably what Routh's agent expected following Superman Returns. The fact is, it hasn't. Routh isn't a household name. Hell, most people probably don't know who he is. He hasn't been getting many offers at all. He has a bit role in "Life is Hot In Cracktown". Thats really it. If Superman Returns 2 gets caught in production hell or fails...Routh's career goes with it. From then on when a casting director gets called by Routh's agent they will say "Who? Whats his resume? Getting fired from a soap opera and a big budget failure?"

Routh not only needs SR2. He needs it to be a massive success.

[Angeloz]

I'll say this - he amazed me. Even when I saw the clips and trailers to the film I still feared I wouldn't accept him in the roles because I have loved Christopher Reeve as Superman since chilldhood. Those clips gave me hope that both the film and Brandon could be good. They were - I was amazed by how much. I was impressed very much by Brandon - he looked, acted and sounded the parts. I appreciate that especially since the Star Wars Prequels. He amazed me so much I'll confess I've never understood why people like Brad Pitt or other stars. So much so they go to their films. I now understand because with Brandon I kind of feel that. I still will reserve judgement on going to the cinema to see a film he is in. But if he's in it I'll pay attention and maybe would get the DVD. I kind of feel it with Jeremy Northam too. It's a screen presence that they have. Although I also like what I've seen in his interviews and his charity work too. But that's just icing on the cake if you could call it that. He is just great at physical and facial expressions. Also comedic touches as well as emotional scenes. He doesn't just convey things through dialogue but his voice is also great sounding. I loved how he could change it too. It's not just his looks though they're good as well.

Angeloz

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well of course he is promoting it. If Routh doesn't get SR2 his career is essentially over.

Despite things like "best new comer" it really is a category without competition and he really didn't impress anyone. He proved to no one that he can carry a movie. He proved to no one that he can act (possibly not by fault of his own, simply because Singer did NOT allow him to. He had very little dialogue. He had very little chance to display any talents he may or may not have. Lets face it...he was essentially hired because he looks like Chris Reeve. He was never allowed to show his talents beyond that. Therefore no one is looking at Brandon Routh as the next big thing. Hell, they aren't even looking at him as a box office draw. He is nothing right now. He NEEDS SR 2 or he will be doing some small play in Atlanta for 300 bucks a week for the rest of his life.

Well Matt, BR has won this award in both Empire and Total Film now, and both times the readers voted for him. These readers are movie fans, not Superman fans, and i know many people voted in both magazine's. Plus, BR is liked by people who didnt even like the movie. So IMO what you say is wrong.

Whether Routh will turn into a great actor remains to be seen. We have basically only seen him in two roles, Superman and Clark Kent. I thought he really showed his comedic side as Clark Kent and really had fun with it. As Superman I saw a presence on screen but wish he had more lines, especially with Lex.

Routh is now Superman to me, and in the sequel I hope he gets a chance to run with the role and make it his own. From what I heard everybody involved has the same feeling about Routh, if there was a reboot he would be the most difficult one to cut away. He is universally liked as Superman.

100% agree with this once again Showtime.

[FlawlessVictory]

Whether Routh will turn into a great actor remains to be seen. We have basically only seen him in two roles, Superman and Clark Kent. I thought he really showed his comedic side as Clark Kent and really had fun with it. As Superman I saw a presence on screen but wish he had more lines, especially with Lex.

Routh is now Superman to me, and in the sequel I hope he gets a chance to run with the role and make it his own. From what I heard everybody involved has the same feeling about Routh, if there was a reboot he would be the most difficult one to cut away. He is universally liked as Superman.

Agreed.

[Miranda Fox]

Whether Routh will turn into a great actor remains to be seen. We have basically only seen him in two roles, Superman and Clark Kent. I thought he really showed his comedic side as Clark Kent and really had fun with it. As Superman I saw a presence on screen but wish he had more lines, especially with Lex.

Routh is now Superman to me, and in the sequel I hope he gets a chance to run with the role and make it his own. From what I heard everybody involved has the same feeling about Routh, if there was a reboot he would be the most difficult one to cut away. He is universally liked as Superman.

:up:


I think the fact he managed to make an impression on people despite the fact he had few lines says a lot for his presence. He may not be a great actor, but he's certainly a very good Superman. IMO, of course. ;)

[Showtime]

:up:


I think the fact he managed to make an impression on people despite the fact he had few lines says a lot for his presence. He may not be a great actor, but he's certainly a very good Superman. IMO, of course. ;)

I never thought Reeve was that great of an actor, but he was Superman to me for decades. Routh is now Superman in my eyes, and I hope he is able to prove that he is a good-great actor with the sequel and beyond.

[Pickle-El]

I never thought Reeve was that great of an actor, but he was Superman to me for decades. Routh is now Superman in my eyes, and I hope he is able to prove that he is a good-great actor with the sequel and beyond.

I don't need Routh to be a great actor. I just need him to be a great Superman.

Brando, Cain, DeNiro, etc.....those are GREAT actors.

I'm perfectly content with Routh as Superman. I don't need him taking 20 different roles to inflate/deflate my opinion of what he was able to do/not do as Superman.

I think the fans like him. That's all that matters right now.

[Showtime]

I don't need Routh to be a great actor. I just need him to be a great Superman.

Brando, Cain, DeNiro, etc.....those are GREAT actors.

I'm perfectly content with Routh as Superman. I don't need him taking 20 different roles to inflate/deflate my opinion of what he was able to do/not do as Superman.

I think the fans like him. That's all that matters right now.

You may not need him to be, but Routh sure wants to be. I am sure he doesn't want to be typecast like Reeve was. Isn't it every actors goal to be great? Or in any occupation you are in, you want to be your best at it, to achieve recognition as well as higher pay?

[Pickle-El]

So long as he's a good Supes, I'm happy. I don't need to follow his career around like a schoolgirl with his posters on my wall though. I hope he does do well, he seems to be a genuinely good guy. If he's lucky, I'll buy a lunchbox with his mug on it. :)

[Excel]

I don't even think that was the case for Jackman. Following X-Men, he had all kinds of offers being thrown at him. Swordfish was a pretty big budget with an impressive cast. He signed for Van Helsing before X2 was released. Jackman had to beat off roles with a stick. And in all honesty, that is probably what Routh's agent expected following Superman Returns. The fact is, it hasn't. Routh isn't a household name. Hell, most people probably don't know who he is. He hasn't been getting many offers at all. He has a bit role in "Life is Hot In Cracktown". Thats really it. If Superman Returns 2 gets caught in production hell or fails...Routh's career goes with it. From then on when a casting director gets called by Routh's agent they will say "Who? Whats his resume? Getting fired from a soap opera and a big budget failure?"

Routh not only needs SR2. He needs it to be a massive success.

Jackman was far from a household name following Xmen one. The film was a big hit, but not that big, and he wasnt the soul star. Yeah, Jackman got Van Helsing, but aside from tha being a major dud, it wasnt supposed to be a star powered film. Swordfish was a bomb, and Kate and Leopold qwas a dissappointment. He had no movies in 02, and the film he signed onto(van helsing) was a huge flop. He had no films in 2005 after Van Helsing, but he made 6 films in 2006, 5 which came out from october-december, probably why he seems so famous right now.

Point is, for Jackman to get really famous, he too needed the sequel. Routh just impressed critics in a huge superman film. He IS getting offers at him left and right. But their **** movies for **** roles. Movies like STEALTH or teen flicks. To get the big roles, you need more than one film. Just ask Josh Hartnett about that.

Jackman didnt get famous until 06. Sure, his name appeared in films trailers, but so will Routh's. Xmen came out in 2000. It took him 6 years to become one of Hollywoods leading men. Routh has 5 years left.

That said, if Routh wants to live up to his "promise" he needs to start with supporting roles, or lead roles in smaller films. To get famous with audiences, you need to have surprise hits, not big budget-pre planned ones. Rachel McAdams had the thing going until she decided to take two years off. Routh should take smaller roles in average sized films and try to impress critics and get a hit or two, than have superman 2 come out. That's probably hot time in cracktown is, though i expect that to limited release.

this will sound dumb, but he needs to follow the early career path of Tom Cruise. He had minor roles in a string of small hits, then took on lead roles in small hits, before finally breaking big. For Routh to do what Reeve couldnt and have a career outside of superman, he needs to start taking roles in smaller films, or big films as a supporting role. War Films work well. Films thatll impress critics. If critics like you you will always have work.

IF you must, check Reeve. Even though Superman 1 and 2 were huge hits, by 85' was making mde fot tv films.

[TheComicbookKid]

Jeez, Matt. Lay off the guy. Heck, encouragement would be nice. You may not have loved SR, but Routh is a good guy and I hope he does have a career with or without Supes.

[dark_b]

So long as he's a good Supes, I'm happy. I don't need to follow his career around like a schoolgirl with his posters on my wall though. I hope he does do well, he seems to be a genuinely good guy. If he's lucky, I'll buy a lunchbox with his mug on it. :)so true so true

[Showtime]

Jeez, Matt. Lay off the guy. Heck, encouragement would be nice. You may not have loved SR, but Routh is a good guy and I hope he does have a career with or without Supes.

Well Matt doesn't really need to lay off of him, Matt can say what he wants, it's his opinion. Just like you can say whatever you want in regards to Routh. :yay:

Technically we don't really even know Routh as a person, nor do we any other actor. Behind the scenes they could be horrible people.

I wish the guy all the luck in the world, and I hope he's successful. My first priority is his potrayal of Superman, as Pickle has mentioned, then after that I hope he goes on and makes it big. That being said if he makes millions I don't get any of it right? :cwink:

[TheComicbookKid]

^I understand, but I want actors to want to do comic films without fear of losing their career if it flops. I didn't like Hulk, but I never would think badly of Bana and was glad to see hin doing that movie with Speilberg a few years back.

Matt's certainly entitled to his opinion, but I hope we can all hope for the best for Routh:cwink:

Showtime, must you all ways be so level-headed!

[Angeloz]

He wasn't horrible according to Rob Burnett - the guy that largely filmed and put together the documentary for the film.

Angeloz

[Showtime]

^I understand, but I want actors to want to do comic films without fear of losing their career if it flops. I didn't like Hulk, but I never would think badly of Bana and was glad to see hin doing that movie with Speilberg a few years back.

Matt's certainly entitled to his opinion, but I hope we can all hope for the best for Routh:cwink:

Showtime, must you all ways be so level-headed!

I think the success of Bale and Jackman will still drive actors towards playing legendary comicbook characters whether Routh becomes successful or not.

I wish Routh all the best, but we have to have some perspective. We don't get a cut of the guys money, he is merely entertainment to me. Just as a athlete would be, we never really know them.

Being level headed is pretty much the only way I know, my real life persona seems to sneak through on to your screen. I know it's quite annoying. :cwink:

[TheComicbookKid]

Yeah, but with Supes history, I do have a bit more sensitivity.

[Showtime]

He wasn't horrible according to Rob Burnett - the guy that largely filmed and put together the documentary for the film.

Angeloz

Nevermind Rob, basically WB as a whole. Routh is the least of anybody's problem.

[Showtime]

Yeah, but with Supes history, I do have a bit more sensitivity.

Its all supposed to be fun man, don't take it to seriously.

[TheComicbookKid]

You're right. Where are my blood pressure pills!:cwink:

[Showtime]

You're right. Where are my blood pressure pills!:cwink:

For a ComicbookKid, you seem to be in poor health. :dry:

[dude love]

I'm sure Routh is a nice guy, he was too natural as Clark to be a meanie. He's playing a crackhead suppoting role next. Which is a good thing because he wants to better himself.

For what it's worth, Wikipedia says he's among those considered to play Jack Ryan in Rainbow Six. Take it with a grain of salt though.

On the subject of Reeve. He wasn't really typecast. He was offered the lead roles in The Running Man and Total Recall. Those where both huge successes (Though both because of Arnie, I guess), he probably could've had an amazing film career if he'd taken those roles. Though, The Running Man is such a great film because it's basically two hours of Arnold Schwarzenegger stand-up comedy.

[Matt]

For what it's worth, Wikipedia says he's among those considered to play Jack Ryan in Rainbow Six. Take it with a grain of salt though.


I really think that is unlikely. Isn't Jack Ryan the president during the time of the Rainbow Six novel? He'd have to be in his 50s. IF Jack Ryan even makes is in Rainbow Six (and if I remember the book correctly his role is small enough that it will most likely be cut in favor of a nameless president in order to not have to explain why Ryan is suddenly the president) his role will strictly be cameo..

[Matt]

Oh, and just to clarify...I am not calling Routh a bad actor. I am saying Superman Returns did not give him a chance to display whether or not he was a good actor. You can't say that for Jackman, after Wolverine...pretty much everyone knew he was a good actor. All Singer let Routh do was a glorified Chris Reeve impression. He needs to make the role his own before anyone can judge him on those merits. Otherwise, all we have is an MTV melodrama and a soap opera he was fired from.

[Darth Elektra]

I thought Routh was a great Superman, I'm glad he's coming back.

[dude love]

I really think that is unlikely. Isn't Jack Ryan the president during the time of the Rainbow Six novel? He'd have to be in his 50s. IF Jack Ryan even makes is in Rainbow Six (and if I remember the book correctly his role is small enough that it will most likely be cut in favor of a nameless president in order to not have to explain why Ryan is suddenly the president) his role will strictly be cameo..

Well, I've never read Rainbow Six so I can't really comment on anything.

[WormyT]

Yeah Rouths a Stellar actor. After SR hes been in a lot of great dramatic roles. I especially like him in the underrated remake of Corvertte Summer. And I hear hes also staring in a Remake of Switching channels with Burt Reynolds.

[dark_b]

Yeah Rouths a Stellar actor. After SR hes been in a lot of great dramatic roles. I especially like him in the underrated remake of Corvertte Summer. And I hear hes also staring in a Remake of Switching channels with Burt Reynolds.whats that?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Oh, and just to clarify...I am not calling Routh a bad actor. I am saying Superman Returns did not give him a chance to display whether or not he was a good actor. You can't say that for Jackman, after Wolverine...pretty much everyone knew he was a good actor. All Singer let Routh do was a glorified Chris Reeve impression. He needs to make the role his own before anyone can judge him on those merits. Otherwise, all we have is an MTV melodrama and a soap opera he was fired from.

I think he did more in SR than just imitate Reeve, in many scene's in SR he was required to do more than just that IMO.

[Angeloz]

I think he did more in SR than just imitate Reeve, in many scene's in SR he was required to do more than just that IMO.

I agree. :up:

Angeloz

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Oh, and just to clarify...I am not calling Routh a bad actor. I am saying Superman Returns did not give him a chance to display whether or not he was a good actor. You can't say that for Jackman, after Wolverine...pretty much everyone knew he was a good actor. All Singer let Routh do was a glorified Chris Reeve impression. He needs to make the role his own before anyone can judge him on those merits. Otherwise, all we have is an MTV melodrama and a soap opera he was fired from.:up: I would really like to see if he can play his version of Superman.

[TheComicbookKid]

I think he did more in SR than just imitate Reeve, in many scene's in SR he was required to do more than just that IMO.

I agree, there's a difference between imitating Reeve and imitating Superman's iconic attributes.

Routh's Clark was nothing like Reeves. There were nods to Reeves though.
Routh's Superman struck the Superman poses. The saddness at seeing the beatdown on NK equals the joy of seeing Superman catch the helicopter.

[dark_b]

the only thing that brandon copyed from reeve were the lines. but not how he acted IMO.

[GreenKToo]

I agree with you dark b. While Routh did say some of the same lines, at no point did I look at routh and think I want Reeve back. Sure I thought of chris when I first heard that they were making it, who didnt?? but to me its nothing more than the james bond role, each actor makes it his own while remaining true to the essence of the character. Routh did that for me.

[Matt]

the only thing that brandon copyed from reeve were the lines. but not how he acted IMO.

Why not? Doofus Clark, God-Like Superman. It was pretty much the same performance. Every actor added their own spin to the role, be it Tim Daly or Dean Cain...but Reeve didn't at all. It was a carbon copy of Reeve's Superman. Be it Routh or the writers fault...who knows?

[Angeloz]

I love Christopher Reeve but Routh had far more subtlety with Clark and I emotionally connected to his Superman far more. I grant you the story and directing helped. But a large part of it was his performance. I've read here and elsewhere others also connected to his Superman because of it. Some that were and others that weren't Superman fans. I'm glad for them but really I'm happy for me over it. I wanted to believe in him in the role(s) and I did.

Angeloz

[superbaby]

I love Christopher Reeve but Routh had far more subtlety with Clark and I emotionally connected to his Superman far more. I grant you the story and directing helped. But a large part of it was his performance. I've read here and elsewhere others also connected to his Superman because of it. Some that were and others that weren't Superman fans. I'm glad for them but really I'm happy for me over it. I wanted to believe in him in the role(s) and I did.

Angeloz
unfortunately, his superman lacks the commanding presence. in short, he looks kinda weak.

[Angeloz]

unfortunately, his superman lacks the commanding presence. in short, he looks kinda weak.

I'd much rather him be relatable than not. I also thought he still had dignity as Superman. And he also displayed more powers including lifting a huge landmass into space (which I don't think was done before in film).

Angeloz

[GreenKToo]

Routh to me showed the best power and presence when he lifted the shuttle off the jet. IMHO it had the same goosebump factor as the lifting the fault scene in S:TM.

[BareKnucklez]

Well of course he is promoting it. If Routh doesn't get SR2 his career is essentially over.

Despite things like "best new comer" it really is a category without competition and he really didn't impress anyone. He proved to no one that he can carry a movie. He proved to no one that he can act (possibly not by fault of his own, simply because Singer did NOT allow him to. He had very little dialogue. He had very little chance to display any talents he may or may not have. Lets face it...he was essentially hired because he looks like Chris Reeve. He was never allowed to show his talents beyond that. Therefore no one is looking at Brandon Routh as the next big thing. Hell, they aren't even looking at him as a box office draw. He is nothing right now. He NEEDS SR 2 or he will be doing some small play in Atlanta for 300 bucks a week for the rest of his life.

Either way it's over because Singer's vision is wrong, and after a total flop like SR most people won't go see its sequel.
Why would anyone go see a sequel to a movie they hated? So expect the sequel to flop even harder, and thus ending his career.
He will always be seen as the George Lazenby of the Superman series.

[Showtime]

Either way it's over because Singer's vision is wrong, and after a total flop like SR most people won't go see its sequel.
Why would anyone go see a sequel to a movie they hated? So expect the sequel to flop even harder, and thus ending his career.
He will always be seen as the George Lazenby of the Superman series.

Does Lexlives have an audio tape that you have gotten your hands on?

[buggs0268]

Jackman was far from a household name following Xmen one. The film was a big hit, but not that big, and he wasnt the soul star. Yeah, Jackman got Van Helsing, but aside from tha being a major dud, it wasnt supposed to be a star powered film. Swordfish was a bomb, and Kate and Leopold qwas a dissappointment. He had no movies in 02, and the film he signed onto(van helsing) was a huge flop. He had no films in 2005 after Van Helsing, but he made 6 films in 2006, 5 which came out from october-december, probably why he seems so famous right now.

Point is, for Jackman to get really famous, he too needed the sequel. Routh just impressed critics in a huge superman film. He IS getting offers at him left and right. But their **** movies for **** roles. Movies like STEALTH or teen flicks. To get the big roles, you need more than one film. Just ask Josh Hartnett about that.

Jackman didnt get famous until 06. Sure, his name appeared in films trailers, but so will Routh's. Xmen came out in 2000. It took him 6 years to become one of Hollywoods leading men. Routh has 5 years left.

That said, if Routh wants to live up to his "promise" he needs to start with supporting roles, or lead roles in smaller films. To get famous with audiences, you need to have surprise hits, not big budget-pre planned ones. Rachel McAdams had the thing going until she decided to take two years off. Routh should take smaller roles in average sized films and try to impress critics and get a hit or two, than have superman 2 come out. That's probably hot time in cracktown is, though i expect that to limited release.

this will sound dumb, but he needs to follow the early career path of Tom Cruise. He had minor roles in a string of small hits, then took on lead roles in small hits, before finally breaking big. For Routh to do what Reeve couldnt and have a career outside of superman, he needs to start taking roles in smaller films, or big films as a supporting role. War Films work well. Films thatll impress critics. If critics like you you will always have work.

IF you must, check Reeve. Even though Superman 1 and 2 were huge hits, by 85' was making mde fot tv films.
Jackman was the breakout star of X-men. And even before x-men he was cast in swordfish as they both came out the same summer. Jackman was in a few movies between X-men and X-men 2. He was also in "someone like you" with then hot Ashley Judd, and Kate and Leoplold with Meg Ryan. And he was cast as Van Helsing before he X2. I know he showed up at X2 premiere already filming Van Helsing. On the Van Helsing commentary, Summer's said he had cast him before he even knew he was in X-men, seeing him in play. So his career really took off from his x-men 1 turn, but before the movie even came out.

Routh has none of that. He was being groomed before SR came out for many roles. He even said he was being offered a lot of stuff. Once the movie came out and was not doing so well, then not well at all, those offers diminished. He needs SR2 to make it if it is indeed made. It isn't officially greenlit yet. Just Singer and the writers are working on the script. And it didn't even get to that stage till after it hit the 200 mill mark.

Jackman was a star way before 06. Hell, X2 was pretty much tailored for him to be the lead of the thing and the other actors were secondary. He hosted Saturday Night Live after X-men. He was the break out star. Even the trades like ER and Premiere were saying so with him on the cover after X-Men came out.

[buggs0268]

Routh to me showed the best power and presence when he lifted the shuttle off the jet. IMHO it had the same goosebump factor as the lifting the fault scene in S:TM.
Except for a few shots, you where getting goosebumps from the CGI Routh. I believe only the boots walking on the roof and the one closup of Supes starting to use his laser vision where Routh. The rest was a CGI double.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I love Christopher Reeve but Routh had far more subtlety with Clark and I emotionally connected to his Superman far more. I grant you the story and directing helped. But a large part of it was his performance. I've read here and elsewhere others also connected to his Superman because of it. Some that were and others that weren't Superman fans. I'm glad for them but really I'm happy for me over it. I wanted to believe in him in the role(s) and I did.

Angeloz

TOTALLY agree with this, Routh was FAR more than Reeve clone as some have suggested, and IMO he demonstrated that in various scene's throughout the movie.

[superbaby]

I'd much rather him be relatable than not. I also thought he still had dignity as Superman. And he also displayed more powers including lifting a huge landmass into space (which I don't think was done before in film).

Angeloz

TOTALLY agree with this, Routh was FAR more than Reeve clone as some have suggested, and IMO he demonstrated that in various scene's throughout the movie.
to say he was the reeve clone is a sorta humilation to mr. reeve.

routh still looks like a boy. he is just as good as other superboys like newton and gerard.

[GreenKToo]

Routh is Superman now and forever. Even if he never makes another, he will forever be known as him, just like alyn, reeves, and reeve.

[Angeloz]

to say he was the reeve clone is a sorta humilation to mr. reeve.

routh still looks like a boy. he is just as good as other superboys like newton and gerard.

As stated elsewhere who says kryptonians age the same as humans when they reach adulthood. Also in the comics he is meant to be longer lived as well as a few of the series (animated, "Lois & Clark", "Smallville"). Not to mention some humans look young. Like Tom Welling, for instance, and my father has all his life since his teenage years. I think Brandon Routh looks his age. Which unofficially was within 5-6 years of Superman's.

Angeloz

[\S/JcDc\S/]

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/NBAE%20League/NBAE_003.jpg

It looks like he's been putting some muscle back on. :up:

Not saying that's the shape he wants to be in for Superman, just saying for a while it looked like he lost some muscle right after SR. Seems he is into being in good shape now. Encouraging imo.

[Excel]

yeah, maybe, perhaps, possibly....

i, for one, am all for padded muscles. its cool if hes naturally huge, but i dont want him taking roids to get hulkishly huge for the film.

[Showtime]

Apparently the Phoenix Suns brought him in to secure a championship...

[\S/JcDc\S/]

He seems to be keeping up better right now, so I don't think it would be hard for him to get bigger for the sequel. I don't see padding as being needed.

[Showtime]

Truthfully JC, and you know I love you, but he doesn't look bigger in that photo.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Truthfully JC, and you know I love you, but he doesn't look bigger in that photo.

Umm... after SR wrapped he got out of shape and his arms lost more muscle mass. He looks to be in better shape (never said he was bigger in Superman shape btw) than he has been since I've seen him post SR.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

You are saying that compared to last year, for example when he did the celeb all star game... he doesn't look to be in much better shape post SR?

:eek:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/2006%20NBA/NBA_004.jpg

I see no musle definition here.

Yet in recent pics he is in much better shape/definition imo.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/NBAE_002.jpg

[Showtime]

You are saying that compared to last year, for example when he did the celeb all star game... he doesn't look to be in much better shape post SR?

:eek:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/2006%20NBA/NBA_004.jpg

I see no musle definition here.

Yet in recent pics he is in much better shape/definition imo.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/NBAE_002.jpg

No doubt he was thinner in the photo above, but he doesn't look like he has anymore muscle definiton to me, just looks bigger in general. A little more meat on those bones. Thats just what I see.

[Showtime]

Umm... after SR wrapped he got out of shape and his arms lost more muscle mass. He looks to be in better shape (never said he was bigger in Superman shape btw) than he has been since I've seen him post SR.

He just looks meatier to me. You refered to muscle being put back on, to me it looks like he's been eating takeout.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

No doubt he was thinner in the photo above, but he doesn't look like he has anymore muscle definiton to me, just looks bigger in general. A little more meat on those bones. Thats just what I see.

You know I'm only speaking POST SR right? I know he's not in the same shape as he was during filming. But post SR I thought he got a little to think and less defined than he should have let himself. Just imo. Now I think he looks about right. I can imagine getting in shape for a sequel in his current condition won't be nearly as hard as the beginning of his post SR time period.

[Showtime]

You know I'm only speaking POST SR right? I know he's not in the same shape as he was during filming. But post SR I thought he got a little to think and less defined than he should have let himself. Just imo. Now I think he looks about right. I can imagine getting in shape for a sequel in his current condition won't be nearly as hard as the beginning of his post SR time period.

I understand what you're saying, but I want the guy preparing now and getting bigger, Superman 3 Christopher Reeve bigger. Whether it's for Superman or other roles, it doesn't hurt for him to pump up on the iron. I am not saying the guy was in bad shape as Superman, or in bad shape now, he could play the part of a Greek God if he wanted to.

They are going to make new suits for the sequel if there is a sequel, I want them to have to make them bigger in all aspects.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I understand what you're saying, but I want the guy preparing now and getting bigger, Superman 3 Christopher Reeve bigger. Whether it's for Superman or other roles, it doesn't hurt for him to pump up on the iron. I am not saying the guy was in bad shape as Superman, or in bad shape now, he could play the part of a Greek God if he wanted to.

They are going to make new suits for the sequel if there is a sequel, I want them to have to make them bigger in all aspects.

Ok, just wanted to make sure you understood what I mean.

I just believe with him looking to be in better shape now, it won't be so hard when it's time to put a little more weight on and define it. There will be pressure on him to get bigger for the sequel most definitely. Now it's just a matter of staying in decent shape till it's time to give it a good 6 months straight of packing on some weight/muscle.

[Showtime]

Ok, just wanted to make sure you understood what I mean.

I just believe with him looking to be in better shape now, it won't be so hard when it's time to put a little more weight on and define it. There will be pressure on him to get bigger for the sequel most definitely. Now it's just a matter of staying in decent shape till it's time to give it a good 6 months straight of packing on some weight/muscle.

I can see that, as long as they don't restrict him and let him power up as he should. He has the type of body where he can put on some muscle in the arms and shoulders.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

6 months is the perfect amount of time. That way, it's not so long he could slack off and possibly lose mass. It's long enough he'll get into it and be strict.

Bale should train him :D ;)

He's a magician of body types.

From this http://www.script-o-rama.com/blog/machinist.jpg

To this http://img.interia.pl/rozrywka/nimg/Christian_Bale_bale_Bale_660041.jpg

Then somehow this

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_begins/christian_bale/batmanbegins9.jpg

[dude love]

He just looks meatier to me. You refered to muscle being put back on, to me it looks like he's been eating takeout.

I know I'm taking it into extremes. But it was easier for Christian Bale to get really fat in order to prepare for Batman Begins, rather than try and get big from the way he was in The Machinist.

[Showtime]

Bale is amazing for what he did, Damon can do that with the best of them, although he never got as big as Bale.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Not to mention Bale can acheive those totally different body type in a matter of 3-6 months. THAT'S control. THAT'S knowing exactly how to mold your body as needed.

[Showtime]

I know I'm taking it into extremes. But it was easier for Christian Bale to get really fat in order to prepare for Batman Begins, rather than try and get big from the way he was in The Machinist.

Well the old addage of turning muscle into fat is pretty much an old wives tale from what I know.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

He never got as big because he is a cardio junkie, I'm told for the Bourne movies. He would run 6 hours of cardio a day :eek: Dedication with actors is always key. I think Brandon has that dedication. Just needs a good 6 months. :up:

[Showtime]

Not to mention Bale can acheive those totally different body type in a matter of 3-6 months. THAT'S control. THAT'S knowing exactly how to mold your body as needed.

Daniel Craig did a fine job with putting on the muscle and adding flexibility for his role.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Ah yes, another good example. I was pretty amazed by that as well.

[Showtime]

He never got as big because he is a cardio junkie, I'm told for the Bourne movies. He would run 6 hours of cardio a day :eek: Dedication with actors is always key. I think Brandon has that dedication. Just needs a good 6 months. :up:

I have no doubt in my mind that Routh is dedicated to the responsibility of being Superman. He really does get it, not just with his appearance but how he carries himself as a person outside the suit and the glasses. I think its great for him to be teamed with Singer as well, due to Singer's worklike attitude.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Especially during teen choice awards as pointed out by a poster on BT. He got burned out from the marathon of interviews and world traveling I guess.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/2006%20Teen%20Choice%20Awards/TeenChoice_077.jpg

That is notically much skinnier than he is now.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/NBAE%20League/NBAE_003.jpg

[Showtime]

Then there was the intensive physical training. Already a gym rat, Craig hired a personal trainer and after shooting began, upped his five-times-a-week workout schedule to every day.

"It was important to me that I do as many of my own stunts as possible for authenticity," says Craig. "Take the Madagascar sequence [in which Bond chases after a would-be bomber who's jack-rabbiting across construction beams 150 to 200 feet up in the air]. I wanted to be seen jumping from crane to crane, physically exerting myself. [Stunt coordinator] Gary Powell and I wanted to get this as real as possible. I didn't get fit just to take my shirt off. Although that applies a little."

[dude love]

Well the old addage of turning muscle into fat is pretty much an old wives tale from what I know.

I'd say you're right. But getting really fat let Bale's frame get bigger so it was definitley better to turn up as the Marshmellow Man from Ghostbusters 2 than a skeleton.

[Showtime]

Especially during teen choice awards as pointed out by a poster on BT. He got burned out from the marathon of interviews and world traveling I guess.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/2006%20Teen%20Choice%20Awards/TeenChoice_077.jpg

That is notically much skinnier than he is now.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/NBAE%20League/NBAE_003.jpg

I'd like more of a shorter haircut on Routh like that for the sequel too.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I'd say you're right. But getting really fat let Bale's frame get bigger so it was definitley better to turn up as the Marshmellow Man from Ghostbusters 2 than a skeleton.

That was indeed a quicker way for him to get the mass needed. Plus his body was gonna blow up anyways due to the starvation mode he went into. So his body got back to its normal metabolism when he got into workout mode. He didn't just get fat for the heck of it, remember he was just in the Machinist.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I'd like more of a shorter haircut on Routh like that for the sequel too.

Still think they should have given him black more flowing hair.

http://i9.tinypic.com/2rm0h80.jpg

I thought in that photo shoot he had the look of what people expected a modern Superman to look like.

[dude love]

Exactly.

If he wasn't in the Machinist he wouldn't have had any need to get fat. But, I'm saying it's much better for him to get fat and work out rather than be really skinny and try to gain muscle mass.

EDIT: DAMN IT STOP POSTING BEFORE I DO!

[Showtime]

Still think they should have given him black more flowing hair.

http://i9.tinypic.com/2rm0h80.jpg

I thought in that photo shoot he had the look of what people expected a modern Superman to look like.

That would certainly work, that is one of my favorite manips of Superman. I could see that shot in a movie.

He's coming back from an awards banquet when suddenly a freak storm hits. The strong winds blow his glasses right from his face and rip the buttons of his shirt. Amazing.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Exactly.

If he wasn't in the Machinist he wouldn't have had any need to get fat. But, I'm saying it's much better for him to get fat and work out rather than be really skinny and try to gain muscle mass.
I believe until it's time to do those hard 6 months he should just stay in a good physique. Then only for a month or two should he put the extra weight on before the intense training starts.

[Excel]

wow, he has:wow:

p.s.

HE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE GREGORY PECK!

[\S/JcDc\S/]

British GQ shoot showed he has a good modern look. Surely that could be adapted somewhat for SR. Not saying he should have the exact clothes, but I thought the way they did his hair and some of the suits would indeed work for an updated Superman film.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=118

[\S/JcDc\S/]

That's just cool stuff

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Magazines/F-P/BRGQ_004.jpg

He looks iconic here... I see Superman

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Magazines/F-P/BRGQ_003.jpg

[Showtime]

It's amazing how different he looks in every shot, same goes for the movie. Every angle you see him in he looks different.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I swear his hair should have looked like that :mad:

Iconic I say!

[Showtime]

That really does scream Superman in that shot.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

The way his hair/face looks in that B&W is a perfect look in comparison to Superman of the comics imo.

[Showtime]

Agreed.

[dude love]

I believe until it's time to do those hard 6 months he should just stay in a good physique. Then only for a month or two should he put the extra weight on before the intense training starts.

I agree. But Bale didn't have much of a choice. :yay:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Almost seems like he could do a decent Jurgens looking Supes.

http://www.demolitioncomics.com/itempics/4785.jpg
http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Magazines/F-P/BRGQ_003.jpg

:eek:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I agree. But Bale didn't have much of a choice. :yay:

I'm well aware of that. I don't mean that he puts on that kind of weight, Bale wouldn't have put that on if his body didn't have to reverse from starvation mode.

[dude love]

Wait, are we even arguing??? I agree with everything you say. In Routh's meatier photo's he still looks in good shape. Maybe he's pigging out a little bit before getting back into a heavy routine. Not a bad thing. We cool? :yay:

[Steelsheen]

You are saying that compared to last year, for example when he did the celeb all star game... he doesn't look to be in much better shape post SR?

:eek:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/2006%20NBA/NBA_004.jpg

I see no musle definition here.

Yet in recent pics he is in much better shape/definition imo.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/NBAE_002.jpg


the real question is: did he play better in this other game? ;)

[superbaby]

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/NBAE%20League/NBAE_003.jpg

It looks like he's been putting some muscle back on. :up:

Not saying that's the shape he wants to be in for Superman, just saying for a while it looked like he lost some muscle right after SR. Seems he is into being in good shape now. Encouraging imo.
oh... getting pathetic.. you are.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

As stated elsewhere who says kryptonians age the same as humans when they reach adulthood. Also in the comics he is meant to be longer lived as well as a few of the series (animated, "Lois & Clark", "Smallville"). Not to mention some humans look young. Like Tom Welling, for instance, and my father has all his life since his teenage years. I think Brandon Routh looks his age. Which unofficially was within 5-6 years of Superman's.

Angeloz

Exactly, how long has he looked like a young man in the comics for now? Even in Kingdom Come, were he was supposed to be older, he still looked somewhat young.

[Retroman]

6 months is the perfect amount of time. That way, it's not so long he could slack off and possibly lose mass. It's long enough he'll get into it and be strict.

Bale should train him :D ;)

He's a magician of body types.

From this http://www.script-o-rama.com/blog/machinist.jpg

To this http://img.interia.pl/rozrywka/nimg/Christian_Bale_bale_Bale_660041.jpg

Then somehow this

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_begins/christian_bale/batmanbegins9.jpg

The wear and tear on the body (fluctuation in weight) is really starting show in Bale's face.I wouldn't advice Routh to go as extreme as that.It's not good for the body. Having said that i wouldn't mind if he added a pound or two of muscle for the sequel. Especially if Supes will be battling a couple villains.:hyper:

[Justice Bringer]

Eh. This is the only capture I've seen from the game

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/absoluteimp/brandon/dallas1.jpg


But seriously JC......

who cares

[Retroman]

He's still a big guy.:supes: Is that Chris Brown beside him?

[Showtime]

I don't get it, will Routh choose a team. Mavs, Suns, whose next? Hopefully not the Celtics, that is a jinx.

[Eros]

If Routh wants to get muscular enough to go with his 6 foot 4 height, he better begin working out now. He was at 215 for superman returns, and for a 6 foot 4 guy, 215 is skinny, he needs to be up to like 230 for the next one.

[dark_b]

Eh. This is the only capture I've seen from the game

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/absoluteimp/brandon/dallas1.jpg


But seriously JC......

who caresholly **** he is in great shape since he is not filming superman :wow:

[storyteller]

The only thing was that the damn suit made him look smaller and was really designed for poses and not action.

[TheBat812]

If Routh wants to get muscular enough to go with his 6 foot 4 height, he better begin working out now. He was at 215 for superman returns, and for a 6 foot 4 guy, 215 is skinny, he needs to be up to like 230 for the next one.
he was actually 220-225, and he's 6'2 1/2".

[BareKnucklez]

You are saying that compared to last year, for example when he did the celeb all star game... he doesn't look to be in much better shape post SR?

:eek:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/2006%20NBA/NBA_004.jpg

I see no musle definition here.

Yet in recent pics he is in much better shape/definition imo.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/NBAE_002.jpg

No doubt he was thinner in the photo above, but he doesn't look like he has anymore muscle definiton to me, just looks bigger in general. A little more meat on those bones. Thats just what I see.

lol looks to be the same size, and muscle buld to me... Let me guess you all also see a face on MARS right?
God he looks exactly the same except different uniform, and he isn't shaved...

To look like Superman he needs to put on 25-30 off pure muscle, and so far he's not off to a good start... Oh, and he looks a bit more Tanned in this new photo... He was crazy pale in the picture above.

Guess after he threw that fit at some show last year because he thought he looked to pale he went, and got himself a tan!

Way to go Brandon! :woot: