LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man!

[strugler]

Yes! it just got confirmed and guess what? is sooo effing lame
from the artcile: "For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers."

Really the 90's are the golden age for super hero animation, in 2000's every body is trying to make superheors teenagers, i was really hoping that this cartoon will be a good one and was looking forward to it well not anymore!

source: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-03-17-marvel-nicktoons_N.htm

[Iron_Stark]

For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers.

Well that sucks.

[strugler]

I am really so freaking sick of this lets take the superheroes to teenage years formula!
its ok for spiderman to be a teenager since the story in the lee ditko comics started with spidey in high school, but its so damn stupid and direspectful to characters like iron man to show him as a teenage superhero.

Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters

[Ironfan72]

OMG its the Crossing all over again!!!!

I'll probably watch it :)

[batman44]

Yikes, I guess that's the rule now. Have a superhero movie then come out with a lame kiddy cartoon version of that character later.

[kedrell]

Just a bad idea from the get go. I wonder what would've happened if Bruce Timm had decided to make Batman: The Teen Years?

[Juha]

Wow...this is beyond lame. Lame has evolved into ultra-lame or something like that. One of the crappiest things I've ever heard.

[Kamarov]

Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters

Quiet! Or they'll hear you and actually think it's a good idea.

[ChillcutZ]

I am really so freaking sick of this lets take the superheroes to teenage years formula!
its ok for spiderman to be a teenager since the story in the lee ditko comics started with spidey in high school, but its so damn stupid and direspectful to characters like iron man to show him as a teenage superhero.

Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters

all i could think when reading that was a SHAZAM! series lol and god help us all if anything involving Captain Marvel gets off the ground lol

but ya this is definately lame to say the least, like its been said how is it even possible to think that this kid is going to be able to do this. just a pointless change taking away from the character...unless they pull a teenage drunken binder with tony ill prolly never even catch this now lol

[Radio_Clash]

I'm going to wait until I see it, it might not be bad.

[Ironfan72]

I'm going to wait until I see it, it might not be bad.

I agree, it may be good, have to hold judgement until we see more. :stark

[<borkis>]

A teen Iron-Man movie would have to be about how Tony Stark rose to power and built Stark Industries.

Any story of a teenager in an Iron Man costume is just plain retarded.

[3dman27]

Yes! it just got confirmed and guess what? is sooo effing lame
from the artcile: "For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers."

Really the 90's are the golden age for super hero animation, in 2000's every body is trying to make superheors teenagers, i was really hoping that this cartoon will be a good one and was looking forward to it well not anymore!

source: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-03-17-marvel-nicktoons_N.htm

GOOD NIGHT
first fisher price spider-man now THIS? NICKTOONS has no busness AT ALL doing marvel super-heroes this had better be as quality as avatar the last airbender

[strugler]

GOOD NIGHT
first fisher price spider-man now THIS? NICKTOONS has no busness AT ALL doing marvel super-heroes this had better be as quality as avatar the last airbender

Actually i hated the spectacular spider-man design at first but they grew up on me i still wish they cna change a bit but storywise it is so true to the lee/ditko era you might wanna give it a chance, the lizard episode topped the lizard episode from the 90's show which i grew up on.

Its understandable for spidey to be in high scholl since in the cannon comics peter became spidey in high school. But a teen iron man is plain retarded, how the **** did he get his armor? an ironman in high schooll??? i mean really i dont see the point, but again this show is made by the same people who made the new fantastic four cartoon which sucked so we shouldnt be surprised at all.

[Armored Avenger]

One of the things that the film makers keep talking about in interviews is how they were excited to get to work on a superhero who is an adult, and therefore has more adult qualities and a more adult storyline.
I thought this animated series was going to be made for kids who enjoyed the film, but if this "Teen Tony" thing is true, then it will be completely different from the movie.

And being an older hero is one of the great aspects of Tony Starks character. Making him a teenager is a horrible idea (I never liked the brief phase when Tony was an alternate reality Teen in the comics)

[strugler]

Official synopsis of the series:

Iron Man: The Animated Series (26 half-hour eps):

Tony Stark, heir to a billion-dollar corporation, lives a life of luxury, free to pursue his chief interests -- seeking extreme thrills, solving scientific mysteries and creating mind-boggling inventions. But everything goes horribly wrong when a tragic accident robs Tony of his father and nearly costs him his own life. Now dependent on his own impressive technology for survival and dedicated to battling corruption, Tony must reconcile the pressure of teenage life with the duties of a Super Hero. Inside his remarkable invention, Tony Stark is geared for high-speed flight, high-tech battles and high-octane adventure! He is Iron Man.

thats spider-man who delas with that problem and not ironman you dumb bastards (im talking to the creators of this lame show)

WOW this is just beyond lame!

[3dman27]

i'm with you strugler

[Mister J]

This is disappointing ...and yes, lame.

[Radio_Clash]

How can you call it lame before you even see it.

[Milu]

:dry: > 9000

[Mister J]

How can you call it lame before you even see it.
Because I'm not judging the show, but rather the decision to portray the character as a teenager who battles crime, while simultaneously carrying on the good fight against acne. With all the gadgetry that Iron Man employs, as well as the avenues available to the writers because of Stark's wealth, this show could easily be tailored to target the demographic they seem to be shooting for without enacting such a wholesale departure.

The end product could be quality entertainment, but I don't need to wait until the premiere to know that I'd prefer a more straightforward adaptation.

[Armored Avenger]

I have been having doubts about this series ever since the first information became known, and now that i have found out that the character will be turned into a teenager i have completely lost interest in watching it. If it turns out to be a great show of amazing quality then i will watch it, but i dont think that will happen. Iron Man deserves a great new animated series, but this is not it.

[Syncos]

Just a bad idea from the get go. I wonder what would've happened if Bruce Timm had decided to make Batman: The Teen Years?

He did. it was Batman Beyond...


... It did rather well.

[Armored Avenger]

He did. it was Batman Beyond...


... It did rather well.

But that was not a teenage Bruce Wayne.
This series is changing one of the key aspects of Tony Stark's character just so the young kids who watch the show can "relate" to him. Batman the Animated series did not change Bruce Wayne into a teenager, and lots of kids loved it. The main character of animated/kids shows does not need to be young for kids to like them.

[YJ1]

I am really so freaking sick of this lets take the superheroes to teenage years formula!
its ok for spiderman to be a teenager since the story in the lee ditko comics started with spidey in high school, but its so damn stupid and direspectful to characters like iron man to show him as a teenage superhero.

Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters

I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.

OMG its the Crossing all over again!!!!

Yes, by all means, let's return the character to his lowest point in the past 40 years.

[Web-Head]

Not sure it being a teen works for the character, but i like Iron Man's design. I won't say it'll sucks until I see an episode to make a final judgement.

I'll check it out since I have the channel.

[Bubonic]

I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.



Yes, by all means, let's return the character to his lowest point in the past 40 years.

It annoys me as well.
The video game industry learnt that their audience grew up, and made games geared toward more mature audiences.

The comics themselves have gotten more mature, I don't blame them for still marketing to fresh young minds, but give the older fans something they can appreciate as well.
I'm pretty young at 23 compared to some of you guys, and I can't imagine how frustrating it can be!

I remember a while ago hearing they'd start adapting storylines from the comics for their cartoons, there is a lot of good material there to work from.

[Web-Head]

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Nicktoons/NICKELODEON-IRON-MAN.jpg
A better look at the same pic from the article...

[fu manchu]

i guess i won't be watching this, since i can't relate to it. I can only relate to the alcoholic Tony Stark.:o

[SurfDUI]

Annimated Iron Man looked best in the '60's series and the appearace in Spidey & Friends in the '80's. Everything else has been sub-subpar, and lasted long enough to reflect just that.

[SurfDUI]

Avi Arid is why so many of Marvel's projects are seeing the light of day. The creativity is sucked out and the characters are portrayed at there most base, so apise the fans who just want the product out there.

He has had some success, the X-Men series in the '90's was the best, but every thing since has been one lame ass duck after another. 2 FF series, 3 Spidey's, etc. Which is why they don't last more than a season.

He fully believes in quantity over quality.

[3dman27]

Annimated Iron Man looked best in the '60's series and the appearace in Spidey & Friends in the '80's. Everything else has been sub-subpar, and lasted long enough to reflect just that.

shellhead never appeared in amazing friends but tony stark did ,he gave the spider friends a computer as a reward for saving his life :stark:

[webhead731]

Yes! it just got confirmed and guess what? is sooo effing lame
from the artcile: "For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers."

Really the 90's are the golden age for super hero animation, in 2000's every body is trying to make superheors teenagers, i was really hoping that this cartoon will be a good one and was looking forward to it well not anymore!

source: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-03-17-marvel-nicktoons_N.htm

*sigh*

The Batman sucked, Spectacular Spider-Man is crap, now they're gonna crap on Iron Man?

[Immortalfire]

This is incredibly pathetic. Teen Iron Man? Lord save us. :csad:

[Ahura Mazda]

How does a teen age iron Man have heart problems and come up with such an invention....

[JMalone61]

5th period science class.

[kedrell]

How does a teen age iron Man have heart problems and come up with such an invention....

Yeah, quite a bit harder to swallow than web-shooters. I was hoping for more stuff like that awesome CGI cartoon from Marvel Kids.

[batman44]

Well, I guess they can deal with teenage drinkning:o

[kedrell]

Then I gotta hear him say, "Don't be a square, man! Anybody who's anybody drinks."

[BrollySupersj]

I must say, this is something I NEVER would have expected. A teen life Iron Man...does that mean that Iron-Man won't be a corporate mascot, help the army, and provide them with the armors like he does now in the comics?

Well...it may sound dumb, but, just dumb enough to get me to check it out.

[Prefix]

Teenagers can only watch cartoons about teenagers hurf durf :whatever:

[The Original Bamfer]

This doesn't even make sense.

There are some superheroes that can work well as teenagers, like Spider-man and the X-Men. Iron Man is not one of them.

[Prefix]

This doesn't even make sense.

There are some superheroes that can work well as teenagers, like Spider-man and the X-Men. Iron Man is not one of them.
No you don't understand! Every superhero has to be like Spider-Man to be successful!

[Agent 194]

I'll chime in on this one.

I learned, or realized a long while back that the era I loved has passed me by.
I also realized that the movie, comic book makers,...whoever, think the only appeal is to skew to a young audience. They're supposedly the bulk of the ticket sales and the most repeat viewers.

However, I remember as a teen aspiring to be like the grown up heroes I read about. I never wanted to be a gawky, gangly, awkward superhero. I wanted to be the grown, fully developed, finished product. I just don't get the skinny, teen "Ultimate" versions that are out now. It seems almost insulting to the audience it's targeted to, IMO.

Even if the world has passed me by a bit, and I've become the grumpy old man that doesn't want the kids across the street to bounce the damn basketball in front of my house over and over, right after I get my kid down for an afternoon nap,- I still believe that kids basically will buy into and understand the coolness of the heroes that attracted me as a kid.

I'm not that old or out of touch.

[Bubonic]

I think that at least with the movies they are treating them with more maturity and respect.
You'll get the occasional stinkers like Ghost Rider and the Fantastic Four that is made for... Umm, very undemanding target audiences.
But lots have smartened up, and I think Marvel will keep on this path.

[The Guard]

Well, it sort of worked for ULTIMATE IRON MAN...

Sort of.

[samsnee]

Iron Man isn't Spider-man. Spectacular Spider-man is decent, The Batman had one good season out of five, but this can't be that good. I mean, I guarantee that the storylines will be the exact same as Spider-man.

[SurfDUI]

shellhead never appeared in amazing friends but tony stark did ,he gave the spider friends a computer as a reward for saving his life :stark:


The last shot of that episode that had the Beetle in it, had a short ancillary scene of Iron Man flying through space while Stan Lee was narriating who Stark actually was at the end. I didn't show up on some of the latter re-air's, but back in teh day it did. It was Red and Gold Layton armor w/ the dics on the sides.

[dodgers2213]

But that was not a teenage Bruce Wayne.
This series is changing one of the key aspects of Tony Stark's character just so the young kids who watch the show can "relate" to him. Batman the Animated series did not change Bruce Wayne into a teenager, and lots of kids loved it. The main character of animated/kids shows does not need to be young for kids to like them.

dude, great point :brucebat:

[Rac]

Über-lame.

[Odin's Lapdog]

the constant need to reinvent one's character is a lack of faith in that character as a product.

you don't see coke changing its forumla every 2 years to fit in with the current buzz of new drinks.

[3dman27]

a very good point odin's lapdog this seems to me to be more like stan lee's character the condor than iron man:im:

[samsnee]

I'm guessing Stark's not even going to have his traditional goatee.

[Rac]

Don't think so, but I bet he has anime-spiky hair. :whatever:

[Iron_Stark]

I'm guessing Stark's not even going to have his traditional goatee.

I was thinking that, or that he'll be like Pedro from Napolean Dynamite, the only highschool kid with a mustache.

[Radio_Clash]

I was thinking that, or that he'll be like Pedro from Napolean Dynamite, the only highschool kid with a mustache.

Too me that would make the whole show. :woot:

[kedrell]

Well if we want to get technical, wasn't Stark already at M.I.T. when he was a teenager?

[Iron_Stark]

Well if we want to get technical, wasn't Stark already at M.I.T. when he was a teenager?

That is true, Tony graduated HS at 12 and M.I.T. when he was a teen.

But screw that, that just won't be relatable. Now we're going to get teen Tony, who'll get injured by a highschool science project because I'm sure now they won't have a teen arms dealer in the middle east.

[Blade X]

I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.

1. The fans that Marvel already have are a shrinking and dying fan base. It's by appealing exclusively to the existing and shrinking older teen and adult readership over the last 10 years why Marvel (and DC) comic sales have fallen so damn low.

2. Just because they are making this version of Iron Man a teenager, DOES NOT mean that they will be talking down to the audience. We have no proof that this show will be "dumb-down kiddie crap".

3. The new SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN cartoon is GREAT. And while the show is aimed at kids, just like the other previous Spidey cartoons (except for the MTV Spider-Man series), it is NOT dumbed down. And remember, in the ORIGINAL comics, Spidey started out as a high school student.

4. The recent FF cartoon was only a flop in the States, but it was a HUGE hit everywhere else around the world.

5. I agree with you that making Tony a teenager in this new series is a bad/stupid idea.

[terry78]

I'm sure he'll have some slicked back hair and a little chin goatee sans moustache. Because it's Nicktoons I can understand why, as most cartoons that are on tv now that aren't for adults star kids and teenagers, not like back in the day when a lot of them were grown-ups that just acted goofy.

[CaptainStacy]

GOOD NIGHT
first fisher price spider-man now THIS?

Seen any episodes? Three in, and many are already saying it's the best Spidey toon yet. :word:

[Joker]

If they did it based on the Ultimate Iron-Man minis, it would be good...but they'll never show a teenage Obadiah Stane setting up Tonys dad for murder...

[Joker]

Seen any episodes? Three in, and many are already saying it's the best Spidey toon yet. :word:

Yeah...those people are called "the blind," as they cant see the hidious characters.

[Shivsguy616]

Yeah...those people are called "the blind," as they cant see the hidious characters.

What's hideous about them?

[3dman27]

like someone[ besides myself] mentioned earlier the art looks too fisher-price mr galloway's art style worked for hellboy but not spidey

[Franklin Richards]

I'm suprised they didn't write Tony Stark out all together and put Rhodey in the Golden Avenger armor.


Just to hit a different "demographic".

:whatever:


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[The Guard]

I can almost see it working. Heck, if they were brave enough to get into the alcoholism at some point, it'd have a whole new level to it.

[CaptainStacy]

What's hideous about them?

Certainly not the ratings. :word:

[chamber-music]

When they say deal with teen issues what they mean is Starks gonna be after the head cheerleader but her football player boyfriend who doesn't like stark is gonna come between them. Thats what happens in pretty much every american teen show/movie/cartoon I have ever seen and I have seen a lot.

[Gold Samurai]

I can almost see it working. Heck, if they were brave enough to get into the alcoholism at some point, it'd have a whole new level to it.

They'll change his addiction to something more playful

Stark- I just can't stop drinking Mr Pibb!

I guarantee that the storylines will be the exact same as Spider-man.

Stark- Aw man I totally blew off helping Jimmy Rhodes study for that biology exam! and i've got a date with Pepper.

[Prefix]

I can almost see it working. Heck, if they were brave enough to get into the alcoholism at some point, it'd have a whole new level to it.But they're not gonna do that. We're going to get Peter Parker: Iron Man.

[Lunar_Wolf]

The concept sounds like a sick and twisted joke...

[3dman27]

as the thread title says this idea is LAME

[Spider-Vader]

Ewwww.... They're on Nick. Anything on Nick eventually turns into crap, look at poor Spongebob.

[dodgers2213]

Ewwww.... They're on Nick. Anything on Nick eventually turns into crap, look at poor Spongebob.


:csad:

[Sun_Down]

Who the hell really cares? Honestly, we're mostly adults here. The Iron Man movie is for us and the cartoon is for the kids.

[bullets]

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs12/300W/i/2006/267/5/2/Lil_Iron_Man_by_tyrannus.jpg

[bullets]

Who the hell really cares? Honestly, we're mostly adults here. The Iron Man movie is for us and the cartoon is for the kids.


If I was a kid I would still feel screwed.

[3dman27]

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs12/300W/i/2006/267/5/2/Lil_Iron_Man_by_tyrannus.jpg

LOL this make a good t-shirt

[Lunar_Wolf]

Remember when we were kids we got a kick ass Iron man cartoon hahahaha:woot:

[Lunar_Wolf]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/KidAvengersSodaWater.jpg

[strugler]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/KidAvengersSodaWater.jpg

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA priceless!
Where the hell is that from?
Back to topic, i was an early hater when it came to the new spectacular spidey cartoons, as i dislkied the designs,a nd by the way still prefer the 90's tas design over the new ones, but i have to admit though, the show is capturing the spidey spirit more than any previous spidey cartoon, the animation is good and the writing is excellent, not dumbed down at all. i do think that this can have batman tas effect on spidey fans.

Going back to the "teenage nerd iron man" marvel has a history of overthinking matters and screwing them up. and for some reason im thinking its Avi Arad's problem. The guy needs to move on, he might have been the main reason for us to see the 90's cartoons but we have to admit the guys is not doing great in the new millenium. I dont understand what is the reason for ironman to be a teenager, is defeats the whole idea anf nature of the charactrs, its like you ninja turtles and not make them turtles and put them in high school so kids can relate to them after all how can you relate to a turtle right?

I loved the 90's x-men and hated x-men evolution just because they put the characters in highschool and we all know x-men comics did not start with the characters in highschool and i saw that as a disrespect to the x-men fans and franchise so i ended up not watching them. I did lately tried to watch them on dvd but hated them from the guts.

90's Spidey was awesome, but im loving the spectacular spiderman just because it is so true to the comics.

All in all, the way i see it: Stay true to the comics and you will get crazy ratings, revent the character and your series is doomed (unlimited spiderman, the avengers series, new fantastic four, mtv spidey etc etc etc)

[Lunar_Wolf]

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA priceless!
Where the hell is that from?
Back to topic, i was an early hater when it came to the new spectacular spidey cartoons, as i dislkied the designs,a nd by the way still prefer the 90's tas design over the new ones, but i have to admit though, the show is capturing the spidey spirit more than any previous spidey cartoon, the animation is good and the writing is excellent, not dumbed down at all. i do think that this can have batman tas effect on spidey fans.

Going back to the "teenage nerd iron man" marvel has a history of overthinking matters and screwing them up. and for some reason im thinking its Avi Arad's problem. The guy needs to move on, he might have been the main reason for us to see the 90's cartoons but we have to admit the guys is not doing great in the new millenium. I dont understand what is the reason for ironman to be a teenager, is defeats the whole idea anf nature of the charactrs, its like you ninja turtles and not make them turtles and put them in high school so kids can relate to them after all how can you relate to a turtle right?

I loved the 90's x-men and hated x-men evolution just because they put the characters in highschool and we all know x-men comics did not start with the characters in highschool and i saw that as a disrespect to the x-men fans and franchise so i ended up not watching them. I did lately tried to watch them on dvd but hated them from the guts.

90's Spidey was awesome, but im loving the spectacular spiderman just because it is so true to the comics.

All in all, the way i see it: Stay true to the comics and you will get crazy ratings, revent the character and your series is doomed (unlimited spiderman, the avengers series, new fantastic four, mtv spidey etc etc etc)
I got the image from google, I just type in LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man!:oldrazz::cwink:

I agree, stay faithful and you will get the ratings, I don't mind little changes here and there(like brock being friends with peter) but making Iron Man a teenager??? Will he have parents? How does a teenager build a suit? Where does he get the money?

[3dman27]

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA priceless!
Where the hell is that from?
Back to topic, i was an early hater when it came to the new spectacular spidey cartoons, as i dislkied the designs,a nd by the way still prefer the 90's tas design over the new ones, but i have to admit though, the show is capturing the spidey spirit more than any previous spidey cartoon, the animation is good and the writing is excellent, not dumbed down at all. i do think that this can have batman tas effect on spidey fans.

Going back to the "teenage nerd iron man" marvel has a history of overthinking matters and screwing them up. and for some reason im thinking its Avi Arad's problem. The guy needs to move on, he might have been the main reason for us to see the 90's cartoons but we have to admit the guys is not doing great in the new millenium. I dont understand what is the reason for ironman to be a teenager, is defeats the whole idea anf nature of the charactrs, its like you ninja turtles and not make them turtles and put them in high school so kids can relate to them after all how can you relate to a turtle right?

I loved the 90's x-men and hated x-men evolution just because they put the characters in highschool and we all know x-men comics did not start with the characters in highschool and i saw that as a disrespect to the x-men fans and franchise so i ended up not watching them. I did lately tried to watch them on dvd but hated them from the guts.

90's Spidey was awesome, but im loving the spectacular spiderman just because it is so true to the comics.

All in all, the way i see it: Stay true to the comics and you will get crazy ratings, revent the character and your series is doomed (unlimited spiderman, the avengers series, new fantastic four, mtv spidey etc etc etc)
its from a short story written during a stunt called assitant editors month it was a story regarding an AVENGERS fan club of kids who'd expelled the member playing iron man because shellhead had been removed from the avengers after falling off the wagonthe scene with the soda bottle was a parody of shellheads situation in the regular storyline

[Casius--J]

Yeah this definately sounds lame. I´m interested to see why he becomes iron man, the old stories of his heart faillures is what got my interested in Iron Man in the first place. Plus being an adult made him so much cooler.

[terry78]

Well, technically, X-Men did start in school, they just didn't go to a public school. But they were kids.

[Rocker22]

I don't care how old he is as long as the show is good.

[X Knight]

so...does this mean that we are going to get an alchoholic, womanizing, playboy teenage Stark????

[Lunar_Wolf]

so...does this mean that we are going to get an alchoholic, womanizing, playboy teenage Stark????
Nope, just a soda pop drinking, goofy Strak:oldrazz:

[Obi-Ron]

You guys should have lived through the '70s, when we got a teen-age Ben Grimm on "Fred & Barney meet the Thing." (They never actually met, they were separate segments of the same show)

"Thing ring, do your thing!"

[X Knight]

i just bet that tony will have a love interest in the form of a hot, red-headed chick named Pepper. And, his best friend will be James Rhodes......

[IRON_Lad]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/KidAvengersSodaWater.jpg

He's drinking COK:pal:

[Radio_Clash]

i just bet that tony will have a love interest in the form of a hot, red-headed chick named Pepper. And, his best friend will be James Rhodes......

Wasn't Tony's best friend/rival as a teenager Tiberius Stone?

[Prefix]

I don't care how old he is as long as the show is good.
Unfortunately this decision indicates the show will not be good. It pretty much confirms that the cartoon is being made to appeal to demographics rather than to actually be good.

[Rocker22]

Maybe they can pull off both, have they said who the people working on it are yet?

[Gold Samurai]

i just bet that tony will have a love interest in the form of a hot, red-headed chick named Pepper. And, his best friend will be James Rhodes......

Jimmy Rhodes and Stark has a curfew. Obadiah stane will be the star football player :)

[Ahura Mazda]

Why does a teenager build the armour and how does he have heart problems at his age. In addition, where does he get the know how.

This is not a hero that should ever be a teenager.

[kedrell]

I agree completely, however anyone can have heart problems when there's a hunk of shrapnel in your chest.

[Gold Samurai]

Why does a teenager build the armour and how does he have heart problems at his age.

Child obesity? lol

[terry78]

What reason could he possibly have for doing it at his age? Most teenagers that become heroes do it because it's thrust upon them by some freak of nature.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Yes! it just got confirmed and guess what? is sooo effing lame
from the artcile: "For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers."

Really the 90's are the golden age for super hero animation, in 2000's every body is trying to make superheors teenagers, i was really hoping that this cartoon will be a good one and was looking forward to it well not anymore!

source: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-03-17-marvel-nicktoons_N.htm

I know,it's all disappointment. The new Spider-Man cartoon is basically Ultimate Spider-Man and now this? It's very sad.

[3dman27]

it makes the animated lionsgate movie look good by comparison dosen't it:im:

[Prefix]

I know,it's all disappointment. The new Spider-Man cartoon is basically Ultimate Spider-Man and now this? It's very sad.
How on earth did you get that impression? Have you even read Ultimate Spider-Man, or watched the show? The only similarity to USM is Eddie. And Kong, as if that really affects anything.

[Rocker22]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/863/863759p1.html

Looks like the show is coming soon.

[sag002]

Before you know, there'll be a tv show about a teenaged Superman...oh wait.

[CaptainAmerica]

I wasn't really looking forward to the cartoon before but now I'm definitely now looking forward to it.

[Metal Spidey]

For all of the haters of this show I have only on things to say... don't watch it. Besides if you're in USA it'll be on Nicktoons Network and most likely you don't have it and if you do have it and watch Nicktoons Network, there's a chance you might like it.

[Joker]

I know,it's all disappointment. The new Spider-Man cartoon is basically Ultimate Spider-Man and now this? It's very sad.

The new Spider-Man cartoon is nothing like USM, except Eddie's origin. For one, USM is actually well drawn, something SSM is definetly not.

[Prefix]

The new Spider-Man cartoon is nothing like USM, except Eddie's origin. For one, USM is actually well drawn, something SSM is definetly not.
Spectacular Spider-Man is well drawn. Sean Galloway's technical skill is great. I'd like to see you be able to use lines as effectively as he does.

[S.A.A.D.]

Ugh,I'll keep sticking with the 1990's cartoon version of Ironman! Oh and yes,I also think that a cartoon teenage version of Ironman sucks. Not that I was intending on watching this new Ironman cartoon from the start however.

[Milu]

Teen Tony better have a baby goatee at the very least, or I'm not watching :o .

[Rocker22]

The show has a title now, Iron Man: Armored Adventures, and it will start Spring 2009 on Nicktoons.

[Lunar_Wolf]

The show has a title now, Iron Man: Armored Adventures, and it will start Spring 2009 on Nicktoons.
Should be called Iron Man: Playschool Adventures.

[Spectacular23]

Should be called Iron Man: Playschool Adventures.
lmao!! hehe i really don't have a problem with spectacular spiderman because it based on him as a teenager but teen iron man i really don't see how this can be possible it really doesn't fit into character

i might end up watchin the 1steppy to see how it is but if it is a playschool adventure i'm not going to be satified

[frayzr]

Is he going to actually be in high school? what does the high school of a billionaire look like? is he gonna deal with bullies and teachers out to get him??? i agree with aboves posts, this idea works with spidey but not iron man, a reboot of the 90's iron man series might work.

[Chris B]

Disappointing. With the success of the film, a prime oppurtunity exists to produce a proper Iron Man cartoon, which we've never had. Though Season 2 of the 90's series is the closest we've ever gotten. As much as it is wishful thinking, I really wish Marvel would realize that themselves and scrap this teen Iron Man idea.

[kedrell]

Spring '09? I guess they're not so confident if they pushed it back a whole year after the movie came out. The only way this could be good is if they did it like the Ultimate Iron Man comic book which showed how Tony grew up in the Ultimate universe. But even then, he didn't become Iron Man until he was an adult.

[kedrell]

Is he going to actually be in high school? what does the high school of a billionaire look like? is he gonna deal with bullies and teachers out to get him??? i agree with aboves posts, this idea works with spidey but not iron man, a reboot of the 90's iron man series might work.


Considering he was in high school at probably 10-13 years old, it would be interesting to see how they did that indeed.

[Troy_Parker]

Whats Wrong With A Teen Tony Stark?

[Lunar_Wolf]

Whats Wrong With A Teen Tony Stark?
What isn't wrong with it?:csad:

[Troy_Parker]

lol

[greedyslayer]

Wow.

Did not see that coming.

After watching the awesome Iron Man movie, I heard something about a new cartoon being made, and I was a little excited: NEW STUFF, YAY.

But I in no way, expected them do a teen Stark...sorta reminds me of Batman Beyond, but then again, I LOVED Batman Beyond, so--and if I remember correctly, never felt that cartoon was kiddie at all. More futuristic dystopia. But then again, that was Bruce Timm & BTAS co. heading, I don't really know who's heading this Iron Man cartoon. And it's on Nicktoons. The only great cartoon on Nicktoons right now--and it is one of the most incredible things ever, on equal footing with the likes of Bruce Timm's aforementioned BTAS and Greg's Gargoyles--is Avatar: the Last Airbender (right there in the title: signs of GENOCIDE--not your average "kid's" show). Actually, I would feel more comfortable if I knew the Avatar team were heading Iron Man (and their Avatar show is ending soon, at least by the end of this year).

The express reason of making Iron Man younger to reach a younger audience? Yeah, LAME. A misguided effort. It works for Spider-Man, because being a teen is part of his character, his history--but, then, you know, he grows up...but you could keep a cartoon or specific comic series--specifically Ultimate Spider-Man--as just teenaged-him, and it would still work, because it's Spider-Man, who debuted as a teen superhero (one of the few who WEREN'T sidekicks to someone else).

But Iron Man...from the movie, they put him forth as a child prodigy/genius, so I do toy at least with a fanfic plotbunny of him developing the armor young--but Iron Man is built through more experience than that, canonically. After another good fic I read, I can see Tony as cocky, if a little lonely and awkward, and that's interesting--but that doesn't make Iron Man. Are we gonna have his heart literally ripped out at a really young age and...that actually kinda disturbs me, I don't know why the thought of a younger age makes it worse. And I will admit, as a Spidey fan, it's kinda interesting to ponder giving his teenage problems and issues and plot points to mini-Stark, apply them to him--but that is, ultimately, Spider-Man, not Iron Man.

I clicked the link, and the image looks weird to me, I'm not sure why. (At least in the art he doesn't look overly teen-ish; maybe slightly skinnier).

Still...I think when it comes around, I'll give the show a shot.

[C.A.P.]

I recall Tony building an Exoskeleton when he was in his 40s not teens. The show is completly inaccurate.

[Raiden]

If they did this new IM cartoon like a IM 2099, and with a new "Stark", then I'd have no problem with it. However, to rewrite Tony Stark as a teenage boy-genius who suit up and ignore his comic origin is ridiculous, and won't pull in new fans because people have seen the movie, and they will be confused by this new Stark. I dunno if Marvel is behind this, because this is a very bad idea. I wish Marvel would improve their animation division and make good 'toons like Batman, Superman, Justice League, etc. This new IM is just a huge step backward.

[nr22]

Hi everybody, I wass wondering if any one has seen more of the teen ironman art work, And if any one knows wich enemy's he will face in this new animated serrie.
Because i am very courrious and don't before i know more.

So please help me out. And find more info and pictures of this serrie.

Who knows it might be a good show.

gr nr22

[Lunar_Wolf]

Hi everybody, I wass wondering if any one has seen more of the teen ironman art work, And if any one knows wich enemy's he will face in this new animated serrie.
Because i am very courrious and don't before i know more.

So please help me out. And find more info and pictures of this serrie.

Who knows it might be a good show.

gr nr22
could be another while before we get anything, keep checking this thread, news will be posted here as soon as we hear anything.

[web-head5]

too bad they didn't just do a show based off of those webisodes they had on marvel.com. the ones w/ IM, Spidey, & Hulk? they would've struck gold there.

[greedyslayer]

Webisodes? I'm reminded of the Gotham Girls here...

[Lunar_Wolf]

too bad they didn't just do a show based off of those webisodes they had on marvel.com. the ones w/ IM, Spidey, & Hulk? they would've struck gold there.
They were fantastic.

[Spectacular23]

I don't know about the webisodes. I mean the hulk spidey and IM was cool. But i rather have a full length 30 mins on T.v where i can record it on DVR.

[vinny2]

Wow. This show can work. The age change was unnecessary, but it hasn't doomed it to failure. I can see how this show can work, but I can also see how it can fail. It's all up the writers.

[Asteroid-Man]

I just saw the preview for it, this is lame

[Iron_Stark]

The Iron Kid trailer is at comicbookresources.com

LAME LAME LAME!!! :cmad:

[ultimatefan]

The animation is excellent, but I´m not crazy about the armor design and making Tony a teenager was a TERRIBLE idea, look at the success of the movie, you don´t have to "de-age" Tony to make him appeal to kids, without the playboy/arms manufacturer angle he becomes just a rich Peter Parker, that is, a boring as hell character.

[DOG LIPS]

I've only slightly kept up with any news on this, but I didn't believe the rumors that he would be a teen with the chest... thingie. And wow... here it is. It doesn't look like a bad show, just a really pointless age drop for the characters. There's no reason to make a Hulk cartoon where he's 13 years old to appeal to kids, and there's no reason for this. :cmad:

I'll probably still watch it though. :csad:

[Ironfan72]

As much as I hated the Teen Tony story several years ago, I'm hyped for a Iron Man animated series, am I disappointed they went this route, yes, Iron man would have been so much better if he was already an adult as he is supposed to be. Like usual they cater to kids, by it being on Nicktoons, but Wolverine and the X-Men are also on nicktoons and they are very much grown up. I can accept the teen Spider Man as he essentailly is just out of his teens so that not much of a leap, but teen Iron Man makes very little sense and a bad idea by Marvel.
The animation looks very good and I know as a shellhead fan I will watch every episode, it's just not what I was hoping for when this was announced over a year ago.

[Rocker22]

Who cares if he is a teen??? It works.

Show looks good.

[arachnid-guy]

No...It doesn't work. It FEELS wrong.

[Iron_Stark]

I hope this fails.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I'm actually glad that, no matter how horrible the idea of a teen Iron Man is, it looks like it will have a more serious tone. Oh, and the Mandarin seems like a badass.

[Lunar_Wolf]

What's next? Kid Hulk? ''You stole my lunch money....you wouldn't like me when you steal my lunch money.''

[DOG LIPS]

Who cares if he is a teen??? It works.

Show looks good.

It just doesn't work for me though. A lot of the adult issues Iron Man goes through are what makes me love the character. Now he's just going to be a pocket hero. A kid with technology that rips his suit out of his closet after school to learn lessons of the day and fight big baddies.

But I honestly don't think it will be a "bad" show.

[terry78]

Adult Tony: Worrying about the state of the world and hoping his next alcoholic fit won't cause wanton destruction from his enemies.

Teen Tony: Suiting up to stop Francis the bully from asking out Lil' Pepper Potts to the fall homecoming.

:o

[vinny2]

Adult Tony: Worrying about the state of the world and hoping his next alcoholic fit won't cause wanton destruction from his enemies.

Teen Tony: Suiting up to stop Francis the bully from asking out Lil' Pepper Potts to the fall homecoming.

:o

Am I thew only one who never thought this show would fall prey to common high school drama? If anything, I thought this show would be an emo angst-fest. I was afraid Tony's hair would cover his eyes and he'd be some depressive jerk who fails miserably at running the company.

And lets be honest. This is Nicktoons. Even if they did an adult Tony Stark, would they have really gone heavy with the alcoholism anyways?

[Iron_Stark]

Am I thew only one who never thought this show would fall prey to common high school drama? If anything, I thought this show would be an emo angst-fest. I was afraid Tony's hair would cover his eyes and he'd be some depressive jerk who fails miserably at running the company.

And lets be honest. This is Nicktoons. Even if they did an adult Tony Stark, would they have really gone heavy with the alcoholism anyways?

Alcoholism isn't essential to Iron Man. The old cartoons never showed him have a drink, the comics haven't shown Tony have a drink in 20 years.

[Sawyer]

I like the look, dont care much for the story. Why de-age, Marvel, why?

[Web-Head]

This would have surely PWNd if Tony wasn't a teenager.

It didn't sound too bad at first but it's bothering me after watching the trailer. Hopefully we'll get some good stories though to make up for it..

[vinny2]

Just saw the better quality trailer on YouTube. Defenantly not what I was expecting. There were some good things that I noticed and was hoping for. The redhead Tony was talking to is probably Pepper and the black kid on the computer is probably Rhodey. Obadiah Stane was mentioned by name, so it's good to see the Iron Monger in this.

However, I'm not too impressed with the Mandarin. He sounds badass, but he doesn't seem to be any more impressive than the Mandarin of the 90's series, minus the green skin thank God.

[CuberToy]

That smell really bad...

[huskerwebhead]

Horrible. I'm sure kids will like it...but it just doesn't work for me. Somebody already said it looks like a Rich Peter Parker...and I agree. What a waste.

[vinny2]

In partial defense of the series, the trailer does not make me think "rich Peter Parker" at all. AT ALL! Based on the minute or two we got from the trailer, Tony Stark isn't a loser by day, hero by night like Parker. Tony's the man in charge all the time, like his adult counterpart in the comics. Aside from the "Hurray! I'm rich!" comment, I didn't see a single drop of comedy. I think their going for a full-blown action drama series.

I repeat, just becuase he share the same age as Peter Parker, that does not mean he is a rich copy of him. Tony Stark is still Tony Stark no matter what age he is. He's still large and in change and he's still badass.

As for the Mandarin, let's just say a deep voice does not a good villain make.

[YJ1]

This would have surely PWNd if Tony wasn't a teenager.

It didn't sound too bad at first but it's bothering me after watching the trailer.

Teenage Tony is an AWFUL idea. (The Crossing anyone?) Why the need? Any kid that loved the movie will be confused by the new origin. Most real fans will be turned off or "bothered" at the least. If you're going to animate it this well, why not stick with the regular character??? Iron Man 2 is up next for Marvel Studios. You'd think they'd want to bridge the gap between movies and keep kids and fans hyped about the character. Instead, they are recreating the mythos and slipping in a kiddy Iron Man "series" that will be gone and probably best forgotten before the sequel even hits. This is frustrating to say the least and doomed to failure because it has no built in base. I'm a life-long Iron Man fan and I'm passing on this one.

[vinny2]

Teenage Tony is an AWFUL idea. (The Crossing anyone?) Why the need? Any kid that loved the movie will be confused by the new origin. Most real fans will be turned off or "bothered" at the least. If you're going to animate it this well, why not stick with the regular character??? Iron Man 2 is up next for Marvel Studios. You'd think they'd want to bridge the gap between movies and keep kids and fans hyped about the character. Instead, they are recreating the mythos and slipping in a kiddy Iron Man "series" that will be gone and probably best forgotten before the sequel even hits. This is frustrating to say the least and doomed to failure because it has no built in base. I'm a life-long Iron Man fan and I'm passing on this one.

First off, a teenage protagonist does not mean it's a kiddy series. Secondly, your logic is a bit flawed. Do you recall what happened with they created a series to bridge the gap between Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2? The series lasted only 13 episodes and was criticizes for being too close to the film. The cast was never allowed to grow beyond their film counterparts and certain villains were off limits becuase they had either already been used or will be used in the film series.

The Mandarin is Iron Man's greatest foe and if the new series were in continuity with the film, no doubt the Mandarin would be off limits becuase they would be saving him for a future installment in the film series. (Iron Monger would also be off limits due to his appearance in the first film.)

Now we have the Spectacular Spider-Man, a series with a child protagonist and no obvious connection to the film series which has been critically acclaimed. I'm not saying this proves Iron Man: Armored Adventures will be a success, but it leaves that avenue open despite Tony's youthful age.

[Iron_Stark]

In partial defense of the series, the trailer does not make me think "rich Peter Parker" at all. AT ALL! Based on the minute or two we got from the trailer, Tony Stark isn't a loser by day, hero by night like Parker. Tony's the man in charge all the time, like his adult counterpart in the comics. Aside from the "Hurray! I'm rich!" comment, I didn't see a single drop of comedy. I think their going for a full-blown action drama series.

I repeat, just becuase he share the same age as Peter Parker, that does not mean he is a rich copy of him. Tony Stark is still Tony Stark no matter what age he is. He's still large and in change and he's still badass.

As for the Mandarin, let's just say a deep voice does not a good villain make.

No he's not. I don't know how much you follow the Iron Man comics, but that IS NOT Tony Stark.

I too am turned off by the series and hope it gets canned after a few episodes.

[Odin's Lapdog]

could someone pass me a link to the trailer please, much love

:)

[Iron_Stark]

It's on Marvel.com

http://www.marvel.com/

[vinny2]

No he's not. I don't know how much you follow the Iron Man comics, but that IS NOT Tony Stark.

I too am turned off by the series and hope it gets canned after a few episodes.

It won't be. Five years after it ends it'll be quickly forgotten. Of that I'm sure. However, this show will last and it has a very good chance of surpassing its 90's counterpart.

[ironman29758]

It won't be. Five years after it ends it'll be quickly forgotten. Of that I'm sure. However, this show will last and it has a very good chance of surpassing its 90's counterpart.
There was a 90 tv show?:hehe:

I think this is like Ultimate Iron Man and the The Crossing

[vinny2]

There was a 90 tv show?:hehe:

I think this is like Ultimate Iron Man and the The Crossing

I am unfamiliar with The Crossing, but I can see the parallels with Ultimate Iron Man that you point out.

[ironman29758]

I am unfamiliar with The Crossing, but I can see the parallels with Ultimate Iron Man that you point out.
from wikipedia:

The story arc "The Crossing" reveals Iron Man as a traitor among the Avengers' ranks, due to years of manipulation by the time-traveling dictator Kang the Conqueror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kang_the_Conqueror). Stark, as a sleeper agent in Kang's thrall, kills Marilla, the nanny of Crystal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_%28comics%29) and Quicksilver's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicksilver_%28comics%29) daughter Luna, as well as Rita DeMara, the female Yellowjacket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowjacket_%28Rita_DeMara%29), then an ally of the Avengers. (The miniseries Avengers Forever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_Forever) later retcons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity) these events as the work of a disguised Immortus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortus), not Kang, and that the mental control had gone back only a few months).
Needing help to defeat both Stark and the ostensible Kang, the team travels back in time to recruit a teenaged Tony Stark from an alternate timeline to assist them. The young Stark steals an Iron Man suit in order to aid the Avengers against his older self. The sight of his younger self shocks the older Stark enough for him to regain momentary control of his actions, and he sacrifices his life to stop Kang. The young Stark later builds his own suit to become the new Iron Man, and, remaining in the present day, gains legal control of "his" company.
During the battle with the creature called Onslaught (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onslaught_%28comics%29), the teenaged Stark dies, along with many other superheroes. However, Franklin Richards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Richards) preserves these "dead" heroes in the "Heroes Reborn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_Reborn)" pocket universe, in which Tony Stark is once again an adult hero; Franklin recreates the heroes in the pocket universe in the forms he is most familiar with rather than what they are at the present. The reborn adult Stark, upon returning to the normal Marvel Universe, merges with the original Stark, who had died during "The Crossing," but was resurrected by Franklin Richards. This new Tony Stark possesses the memories of both the original and teenage Tony Starks, and thus considers himself to be essentially both of them. With the aid of the law firm Nelson & Murdock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_%28Marvel_Comics%29), he successfully regains his fortune and, with Stark Enterprises having been sold to the Fujikawa Corporation following Stark's death, sets up a new company, Stark Solutions. He also returns from the pocket universe with a restored and healthy heart. After the Avengers reform, Stark demands a hearing be convened to look into his actions just prior to the Onslaught incident. Cleared of wrongdoing, he rejoins the Avengers.

[Spade]

I give this a season, maybe two. Then it'll go the way of MTV's Spider-Man. People loved the movie for the same reason people love Tony in the books. Changing him from a playboy arms dealer to a boy with a dead relative and a compulsion to do good makes me think less of Ultimate Tony (which they were probably aiming for) and more of young Spidey. The art style doesn't look very impressive, to boot. Not sure what you were thinking, Marvel...

[vinny2]

I give this a season, maybe two. Then it'll go the way of MTV's Spider-Man. People loved the movie for the same reason people love Tony in the books. Changing him from a playboy arms dealer to a boy with a dead relative and a compulsion to do good makes me think less of Ultimate Tony (which they were probably aiming for) and more of young Spidey. The art style doesn't look very impressive, to boot. Not sure what you were thinking, Marvel...

I still don't believe the age change was inherently wrong. A seventeen year old could still be a playboy arms dealer. (Out of fairness, the 90's Iron Man was just a guy with the compulsion to do good. He just happened to be older.) Well, they evidently went with the nice guy Tony here when they didn't have to or didn't need to. A teenage Iron Man could have worked well. This will be a fairly successful show. Of that I'm sure. However, it will be forgotten quickly because it is Iron Man in name only.

[YJ1]

Do you recall what happened with they created a series to bridge the gap between Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2? The series lasted only 13 episodes and was criticizes for being too close to the film.

It was criticized for being horribly animated with characters having shell hair and having to wear the same clothes all the time. The content wasn't the problem, it was the fact that it was a clunky eye sore. That doesn't seem to be the problem with this generation of computer animation. Iron Man should remain Iron Man and not Iron Boy.

[vinny2]

It was criticized for being horribly animated with characters having shell hair and having to wear the same clothes all the time. The content wasn't the problem, it was the fact that it was a clunky eye sore. That doesn't seem to be the problem with this generation of computer animation. Iron Man should remain Iron Man and not Iron Boy.

Most cartoons have their characters wearing the same clothes all the time. Only on special occasions do they change. Spectacular Spider-Man has their characters wearing the same clothes all the time and it's successful becuase the content is amazing. MTV Spidey did not have that. I thought the animation was amazing.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0807/26/ironman.htm

CONTAINS SPOILERS OF FIRST TWO EPISODES!

[vinny2]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0807/26/ironman.htm

CONTAINS SPOILERS OF FIRST TWO EPISODES!
and might I add that the summary of the episodes were badass? Yeah. I'm going to say that.

[Rocker22]

Sounds pretty good.

[vinny2]

The only thing (and I mean the ONLY thing. Everything else sounds perfect for what they're going for) that I'm still worried about is the Mandarin.

He's introduced at the end of the first episode (probably the same scene that starts the trailer) and in the next episode he's in New York to steal the ring from Stane. The summary doesn't mention how he found out Stane had the ring, or why he was unable to retrieve the ring when Howard Stark had it. It's not like a regular guy like Howard would have given him any trouble.

And then the summary mentions the Mandarin's stepson? Was that a typo or does the Mandarin seriously have a stepson? I don't care if he did have green skin, the Mandarin of the 90's series still seems better than this Mandarin.

[vinny2]

News from comicscontinuum:

* Marvel and Nicktoons have provided The Continuum a look at the designs for Iron Man villains The Mandarin, Whiplash and Blizzard. Marvel's Josh Fine noted at this weekend's panel that the Iron Man villains will have a technological look.

Click on the thumbnails for larger images.

source: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0807/27/index.htm

[GamerSlyRatchet]

And then the summary mentions the Mandarin's stepson? Was that a typo or does the Mandarin seriously have a stepson? I don't care if he did have green skin, the Mandarin of the 90's series still seems better than this Mandarin.

I'm guessing it's the guy with the shades and the dragon shirt on the trailer. Then again, doesn't Mandarin in the comics also has a son named Temugin?

[vinny2]

I'm guessing it's the guy with the shades and the dragon shirt on the trailer. Then again, doesn't Mandarin in the comics also has a son named Temugin?

"Son"makes more sense to me than"stepson"becuase son means he had "relations" with a woman, which I can believe. Stepson means he's married, and the Mandarin doesn't strike me as a person who would be married.

[Johann Krauss]

I never thought I'd say this but...this looks as bad as the Black Panther show. Not only is the story bad but the animation looks like crap. If they wanted to do good computer animation then they should have given it to these guys:
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or these guys

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[Iron_Stark]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0807/26/ironman.htm

CONTAINS SPOILERS OF FIRST TWO EPISODES!


* Yost explained why Tony Stark is a teenager in the movie. He said that hard liquor and womanizing were "not the most friendly kid issues" and that the creators boiled the essence down to a character more accessible to younger views.


What a complete and utter moron, in the comics, he's not into liquor and hasn't been for the past 20+ years, in the old cartoons, he wasn't into liquor and wasn't a womaniser.

Clearly these idiots don't know jack sh** about Tony Stark.


"Hopefully, you'll see the Tony Stark you know and there," he said.


No we won't.

* Fine said "there is a very good chance you'll see some others you might recognize in the series."


Hopefully this show gets tanked before they show anymore screwups. Me personally, I'm won't even be watching one episode.

* Yost said other versions of the armor will be seen. "As far as War Machine goes, it's hard to say," Yost said.

Good, hopefully they won't get a chance to screw up War Machine.

* Dawkins said Nicktoons is for kids 6-14, and the show should hit that target, but he feels it will have an appeal wider than. "I feel confident and excited about this," he said.

Screw these A-holes, us long time Iron Man fans have been waiting for a Bat Man:TAS type show for a long while and when they finally get the oportuniy to make a show following the success of the movie, we get this??

I hope this show tanks after a few episodes.

[Lunar_Wolf]

What a complete and utter moron, in the comics, he's not into liquor and hasn't been for the past 20+ years, in the old cartoons, he wasn't into liquor and wasn't a womaniser.

Clearly these idiots don't know jack sh** about Tony Stark.



No we won't.



Hopefully this show gets tanked before they show anymore screwups. Me personally, I'm won't even be watching one episode.



Good, hopefully they won't get a chance to screw up War Machine.



Screw these A-holes, us long time Iron Man fans have been waiting for a Bat Man:TAS type show for a long while and when they finally get the oportuniy to make a show following the success of the movie, we get this??

I hope this show tanks after a few episodes.
I agree with everything you said. Plus how many kids saw the Iron Man movie and loved it? Tons. You don't need to kid it down to make more appealable.

[vinny2]

I agree with everything you said. Plus how many kids saw the Iron Man movie and loved it? Tons. You don't need to kid it down to make more appealable.

The question isn't whether or not changing the age was necessary. It clearly wasn't. The question is whether or not the age change will doom it to failure. The interview states that even if they went with an adult Tony Stark, hard liqueur and womanizing wouldn't be present. It would essentially be the same character, only older.

If this show fails, it won't be becuase of Tony's age. It'll be becuase of the story content that would have been exactly the same had they gone with an adult Tony Stark. It's okay to hate this show and hope for it's failure, but please don't convince yourself that this show would have been better with an older Iron Man. It would have been the exact same show.

[terry78]

When was the last time a cartoon that wasn't rated TV-PG or above had adult characters starring in it?

[spiderfan970]

what we should've gotten:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/Gibson89/timmiron.jpg

EDIT: It was working before when I had it loaded up, oh well, I changed the link so now it should...I found it colored on the internet, it's from the back of Essential Iron Man.

[vinny2]

what we should've gotten:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_w8RumsAuzDM/Ro6OIS-97sI/AAAAAAAAAIA/c83sI5abvMQ/timmiron.jpg

We should have gotten nothing?

[Iron_Stark]

The question isn't whether or not changing the age was necessary. It clearly wasn't. The question is whether or not the age change will doom it to failure. The interview states that even if they went with an adult Tony Stark, hard liqueur and womanizing wouldn't be present. It would essentially be the same character, only older.

If this show fails, it won't be becuase of Tony's age. It'll be becuase of the story content that would have been exactly the same had they gone with an adult Tony Stark. It's okay to hate this show and hope for it's failure, but please don't convince yourself that this show would have been better with an older Iron Man. It would have been the exact same show.

No it wouldn't be the same show, older Tony wouldn't be living with Rhodey and his parents, older Tony would be more independant doing his own sh**, like in the comics. Plus older Tony has his trademark mustache and goatee, like he's had in the comics for the past 45 years. This show and teenage Tony also throws away his origin.

This whole thing is so stupid, it'd be like them trying to remake Bruce Wayne into Batman without killing the parents, because killing his parents is "not a kid friendly issue"

Yes this show would've been better with an older Tony and not some punk kid.

[vinny2]

No it wouldn't be the same show, older Tony wouldn't be living with Rhodey and his parents

Yes, he would. It's the same writers and they would have had Tony move in with Rhodey out of depression.

older Tony would be more independant doing his own sh**, like in the comics.

Nope. Tony would be doing the same, righteous thing teen Tony exhibited in the trailer. Just imagine him twenty years older.

Plus older Tony has his trademark mustache and goatee, like he's had in the comics for the past 45 years.

Okay, I'll give you that one.

This show and teenage Tony also throws away his origin.

With the same writers, this would have done the exact same thing with an adult Tony Stark.

This whole thing is so stupid, it'd be like them trying to remake Bruce Wayne into Batman without killing the parents, because killing his parents is "not a kid friendly issue"

Blame the censors, not the writers.

Yes this show would've been better with an older Tony and not some punk kid.

It would have been exactly the same. The show runners made the show with an adult Tony Stark. Then they changed his age when they realized that they could without changing anything about the character that they created for the show while abiding by Standard & Practices.

Watch the trailer again and pretend that he has a mustache, goatee, and he's twenty years older. THAT is what the show would have been like if they had decided not to change the age, not something that adheres to the comic book as the film did.

[Iron_Stark]

Yes, he would. It's the same writers and they would have had Tony move in with Rhodey out of depression.

LOL! I highly doubt that, but then again these idiot writers probably would have.

With the same writers, this would have done the exact same thing with an adult Tony Stark.

That's why Josh Fine and Christopher Yost are pair of dumbasses that don't know what the hell they're doing.

Blame the censors, not the writers.

Please, every incarnation of Batman began with the death of his parents.


It would have been exactly the same. The show runners made the show with an adult Tony Stark. Then they changed his age when they realized that they could without changing anything about the character that they created for the show while abiding by Standard & Practices.

Watch the trailer again and pretend that he has a mustache, goatee, and he's twenty years older. THAT is what the show would have been like if they had decided not to change the age, not something that adheres to the comic book as the film did.

Tony in highschool, living with Rhodey and his parents, Pepper being a classmate, and most importantly taking away his origin, is pretty much pissing on what Stan Lee had created, and giving the us, the hardcore fans, the finger and telling us FU, this show isn't for you.

[vinny2]

Tony in highschool, living with Rhodey and his parents, Pepper being a classmate, and most importantly taking away his origin, is pretty much pissing on what Stan Lee had created, and giving the us, the hardcore fans, the finger and telling us FU, this show isn't for you.

Quite frankly, it would have been VERY easy to stick to the comic book lore, even with a teenage Tony Stark. Here, let me show you how the origin story could have worked, even with a 17 year old:

Howard Stark is President of Stark Enterprises. His son Tony, a prodigal genius is in his fifth year at MIT. Just like the comic book, Howard and Maria Stark are killed in a car accident. (Tony blames Justin Hammer since it was on the way to meet with him that they met their end, which sets up the rivalry between them.) In the wake of tragedy, Stark Enterprises is taken over by Howard's business partner Obidiah Stane. Tony is fully willing to let Stane run the company, but he's told by Jarvis (the real one this time, not a computer) that he must take his father's place in one little oversees conference.

Tony agrees to go on this one business trip on place of his father and BAM! You got your good old fashion kidnapping and torture , (the kidnappers were expecting Howard Stark and did not know he had already died,so they made due with what they had.). Tony is hit with shrapnel and Dr. Yinsen helps him build the Mark I armor. Tony escapes and is eventually rescued by some U.S. troops. (one of which is fresh recruit Private James Rhodes.)

Tony comes back to America with a new outlook on life. First things first, he buys back the company from Stane. Tony offers Stane his old job back, but Stane refuses to work for a child and resigns in protest. Tony doesn't readily reveal what happened to him while in captivity, but he becomes obsessed with the Mark I armor he created and begins to improve it.

Honestly, I have the first couple of episodes in my head. I could go on and describe the first episode, which would take place a month after he returned from captivity.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0809/19/index.htm

More details about Blizzard, and confirmations of Living Laser and The Controller in the show.

Now, the only question is: Where's MODOK?:cmad:

[YJ1]

Saw the episode on the bonus Walmart DVD attached to the movie. I'm sorry but it's awful.

The graphics seemed fine, even though they are borderline awkward. Definitely a step above that MTV Spider-Man animation but still lacking.

Speaking of Spider-Man, the teenage Tony thing just doesn't work. Subbing Happy for Flash Thompson and a ditzy Pepper for MJ is flat out annoying. Iron Man himself has a large, kiddie head and looks skinny and out of place. Screams "baby X-Men" from the Mojo Universe to me. Teenage Mandarin is also lame. (The Mandarin armor and effects were pretty good, however.)

Overall, I'll pass on this. I can't believe any kids that were turned on by the movie are going to like this incarnation. I know most older fans are going to be disappointed.

[Iron_Stark]

Saw the episode yesterday, ugh, lame piece of SH** does not even begin to describe it.

Tony in highschool? Tony was a boy genius who was out of an Ivy League University before he hit 18!

Tony living with Rhodeys parents?!? seriously W. T. F.

Teen Mandarin with a suit of armor that's a cross between Shredder and Darth Vader.

Spider-Man called they want MJ(Pepper) and Flash(Happy) back.

And then them pretty much raping the origin that Stan Lee did. Lee did Stark's origin for a reason, these dumbasses just pissed all over it.

I'll admit the flying and the action scenes were pretty dope, everything else, sucks donkey balls.

I'm going to pass, and hope failure on this show.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Saw the episode yesterday, ugh, lame piece of SH** does not even begin to describe it.

Tony in highschool? Tony was a boy genius who was out of an Ivy League University before he hit 18!

Tony living with Rhodeys parents?!? seriously W. T. F.

Teen Mandarin with a suit of armor that's a cross between Shredder and Darth Vader.

Spider-Man called they want MJ(Pepper) and Flash(Happy) back.

And then them pretty much raping the origin that Stan Lee did. Lee did Stark's origin for a reason, these dumbasses just pissed all over it.

I'll admit the flying and the action scenes were pretty dope, everything else, sucks donkey balls.

I'm going to pass, and hope failure on this show.
At least we still have the 90's cartoon!

[Iron_Stark]

At least we still have the 90's cartoon!

:up:

[vinny2]

At least we still have the 90's cartoon!

That doesn't really do much to quell my disappointment. I thought that show was a disaster from beginning to end as well.

I'll repeat my point. This could have been good. It's the directions that the writers took it in that made it suck. The idea was not inherently bad. If I was running the show. Tony Stark would still have been the prodigal badass of the comics.

My Tony wouldn't be in high school living with the Rhodes because he has nowhere else to go. My Tony would be a 17-year-old MIT graduate who lives at the Stark mansion and run his company efficiently.

My Pepper wouldn't be some MJ carbon-copy. These writers should have taken some notes from the movie. Gweneth Palermo was spot-on.

Happy would not be Flash Thompson. Happy Hogan is Happy Hogan.

I would have Jarvis.

My Mandarin would NOT, under any circumstance, be a teenager with a lame armor motif whose only ambition is to rule the world becuase...well, he probably has no reason.

I would have the real origin story.

My Rhodey wouldn't be reduced to being Iron Man's techy sidekick. The War Machine I know is a military man. Not his father. Not his mother. Not his older brother. Him. I wouldn't have him too much older than Tony, but I would have him in the armed services like he should be.

This show is Iron Man in name only.

[Blade X]

Is there any way we can watch this episode online without having to download it (like on youtube or another streaming video site)? I already brought the DVD, and I don't want to buy another DVD just for one episode of this possible crappy animated series.

[Spectacular23]

Saw the episode yesterday, ugh, lame piece of SH** does not even begin to describe it.

Tony in highschool? Tony was a boy genius who was out of an Ivy League University before he hit 18!

Tony living with Rhodeys parents?!? seriously W. T. F.

Teen Mandarin with a suit of armor that's a cross between Shredder and Darth Vader.

Spider-Man called they want MJ(Pepper) and Flash(Happy) back.

And then them pretty much raping the origin that Stan Lee did. Lee did Stark's origin for a reason, these dumbasses just pissed all over it.

I'll admit the flying and the action scenes were pretty dope, everything else, sucks donkey balls.

I'm going to pass, and hope failure on this show.
Dude seriously i like: 100,000,000% agree.

[Hurm...]

Is the first episode online? *cough* link * cough*

[Toy-Master]

All I can say is, cartoon is for kids. This forum members are definitely not their target audience. Once they have a successful franchise, they license the hell out of it. First the cartoon, then the lunch pails, bed sheets and pillow cases....etc....sigh.... that's show biz! I wonder how they sold the concept for kids when they know little Tony will grow up to be an alcoholic playboy?

[Blade X]

The first 2 episodes have aired already up in Canada this past Friday. Did anyone see this episodes yet? If so, what did you guys think of them? Hopfully these episodes will end up on youtube (the torrents are online already).

[chiefchirpa]

Cartoons are for kids. For those grown ups who thought the animated series are geared for them... grow up. Check your ID card and see your age.

Marvel don't care if this Iron Man is true to comics, what they care is that kids 7-13 know the guy in red of the cartoon as a hip young hero not an alcoholic, buy the action figures, and look forward for the movie in 2010 & read the comics once in a while. And most of us are definitely not target audiences.

[Arthur Curry]

Teenage Tony is an AWFUL idea. (The Crossing anyone?) Why the need? Any kid that loved the movie will be confused by the new origin. Most real fans will be turned off or "bothered" at the least. If you're going to animate it this well, why not stick with the regular character??? Iron Man 2 is up next for Marvel Studios. You'd think they'd want to bridge the gap between movies and keep kids and fans hyped about the character. Instead, they are recreating the mythos and slipping in a kiddy Iron Man "series" that will be gone and probably best forgotten before the sequel even hits. This is frustrating to say the least and doomed to failure because it has no built in base. I'm a life-long Iron Man fan and I'm passing on this one.

Great post my man! I agree on every level. ESPECIALLY the part about the hardcore fanboys AND kids that enjoyed the movie are going to be completely confused AND alienated by this drek.

The obvious question is if the IM movie was sooooo effin successful with a 40+ yr old RDJr as the lead and kids ate that up (just Cap Jack Sparrow) WHY F with that formula in animation? Why bother even calling him Iron "MAN" if he's friggin 15. IF the kiddies are your only priority what worked on ALL levels is a full fledged grown ass Iron MAN.

ALSO like you, I hope the series either dies a miserable death for the endless ineptitude of Avi Arad, Craig Kyle and Chris Yost. OR moreover they do the radical directional facelift ala the IRON MAN 90's series from the wonky season 1 to the season 2 masterpiece.

I also want a whole Marvel Universe at their disposal, for drop in like Steve Rogers, Clint Barton, Nick Fury etc and it doesn't even look like THAT is going to happen

[Arthur Curry]

I'll chime in on this one.

However, I remember as a teen aspiring to be like the grown up heroes I read about. I never wanted to be a gawky, gangly, awkward superhero. I wanted to be the grown, fully developed, finished product. I just don't get the skinny, teen "Ultimate" versions that are out now. It seems almost insulting to the audience it's targeted to, IMO.

I'm not that old or out of touch.

BINGO, beautiful post my man. I VIVIDLY remember also as a kid HATING all the characters that were condescendingly aimed at kids like the Wonder Twins, Wendy and Marvin, Jubilee, Willy Kit and Wily Cat, Orko, or whenever they tried to skew younger with the already established older characters anything Superboy.

I wanted super hero escapism of what COULD be as far away from my demo as possible. And the last thing I wanted to see on my super hero cartoons was the same snot-nosed brats I saw at school just hours before, and now I'm even more against kiddified Marvel/DC, it's ALWAYS a disaster.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Cartoons are for kids. For those grown ups who thought the animated series are geared for them... grow up. Check your ID card and see your age.

Marvel don't care if this Iron Man is true to comics, what they care is that kids 7-13 know the guy in red of the cartoon as a hip young hero not an alcoholic, buy the action figures, and look forward for the movie in 2010 & read the comics once in a while. And most of us are definitely not target audiences.
This is true, but that doesn't mean the cartoons have to suck.

Is this show still going?

[spiderfan970]

Cartoons are for kids. For those grown ups who thought the animated series are geared for them... grow up. Check your ID card and see your age.

Marvel don't care if this Iron Man is true to comics, what they care is that kids 7-13 know the guy in red of the cartoon as a hip young hero not an alcoholic, buy the action figures, and look forward for the movie in 2010 & read the comics once in a while. And most of us are definitely not target audiences.

People aren't pissed because it's not adult enough for them, they're pissed because they changed Tony Stark to the point that it's almost not even Tony Stark anymore. Cartoons can (and always should) still be true to the character and the mythology while being kid friendly. See Spectacular Spider-Man and Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

Plus, if I were a kid I'd be kind of confused. "Wait, he was a grown-up in the movie but here he's just a kid? Why?"

[Spider-Vader]

This show looks all kinds of lame. Why can't Iron Man ever get a good cartoon?

Studios need to stop doing this teen/kid crap. If kids liked kiddy heroes they wouldn't like most of these heroes in the first place. I can understand Spidey being a teen because IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE COMICS!

Atleast we have 'Wolverine & the X-Men', 'Spectacular Spider-Man' & 'Batman: The Brave & The Bold".

Iron Man gets crap again, seems like the '90s all over again.

[Duskbyday]

I wouldn't say the show is lame, it's above average from the pilot I watched, the problem is the way it isn't true to the comics. There is mainly a balance between originality and the original storyline. Hre it is more with thier hipper story they've gone with. It's like spiderman in the iron suit, M.J (Pepper Pots), Harry Osbourne (Rohdey), Flash (Happy Hogan) Uncle Ben (Stark's dad) and Norman O (Obidiah Stane).

[Sawyer]

At least we still have the 90's cartoon!

And, God willing, we will get that on DVD soon, since the X-Men DVDs say Marvel Comic Book collection.

[yoshimura]

But that was not a teenage Bruce Wayne.
This series is changing one of the key aspects of Tony Stark's character just so the young kids who watch the show can "relate" to him. Batman the Animated series did not change Bruce Wayne into a teenager, and lots of kids loved it. The main character of animated/kids shows does not need to be young for kids to like them.

Thank you! What's up with all these 'teened down' cartoons? Kids in the 80s & 90s(heck, it seems like pretty much every generation before the new millenium!) grew up with adult superheroes and they sold merchandise. Is there a real correlation with teened down toons and ratings/sales?

[Mistah K88]

I'm going to have to agree with most the people on this thread. This teenage thing worked for Spider-Man because he is THE teenage hero. Now with Iron Man...how are they going to explain the thing on his chest as a teenager? I will give this an episode, but after that I don't think I'll watch it much longer. Well...atleast we have Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine and the X-Men the the Marvel animation side of things...

[spiderfan970]

Though I don't like this cartoon...I do like the action figure based off the cartoon. In fact I think the Iron Man suit in the series looks really cool; it's just too bad that the guy piloting it is going through puberty.

comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/22/quickchangeironman.htm

comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/22/stealthironman.htm

comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/22/ironman.jpg

[Duskbyday]

Though I don't like this cartoon...I do like the action figure based off the cartoon. In fact I think the Iron Man suit in the series looks really cool; it's just too bad that the guy piloting it is going through puberty.

comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/22/quickchangeironman.htm

comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/22/stealthironman.htm

comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/22/ironman.jpg

What is up with Crimson Dynamo? He aint Crimson anymore. He's gray!!!

[Iron_Stark]

I can't wait until this show fails miserably.

[Chris B]

Out of morbid curiosity, when is this set to premiere?

[GamerSlyRatchet]

What is up with Crimson Dynamo? He aint Crimson anymore. He's gray!!!

That's not Crimson Dynamo. That's Iron Man's stealth suit and some other upgrade.

BTW, from what I've heard,

They are making Madame Masque to be Obadiah's daughter

Don't know what to think about that.

[Duskbyday]

That's not Crimson Dynamo. That's Iron Man's stealth suit and some other upgrade.

BTW, from what I've heard,

They are making Madame Masque to be Obadiah's daughter

Don't know what to think about that.

Whoops:whatever:

that idea is ..... wierd
Who would want to marry him!?

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Whoops:whatever:

that idea is ..... wierd
Who would want to marry him!?

Like Norman Osborn, probably a zombie who only cuts food and buys expensive cars.

[RaZaTrOn]

Theres a new game up on Marvels site. It shows you characters such as Count Nefaria, Black Knight, Living Laser, Madame Masque, Killer Shrike, Mr Fix and Whiplash.

Not to sure if you guys new this. You don't see much but they do look cool.

Sorry if you knew about these characters being in it.

[Iron_Stark]

Out of morbid curiosity, when is this set to premiere?

Sometime late April I think.

That's not Crimson Dynamo. That's Iron Man's stealth suit and some other upgrade.

BTW, from what I've heard,

They are making Madame Masque to be Obadiah's daughter

Don't know what to think about that.


Really? ugh. :facepalm


Funny thing, I showed my nephew a preview of this, to see his reaction and the first thing he said was "Why is Iron Man a teenager in school?"

[GamerSlyRatchet]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=233

The titles of all 26 first season episodes.

[Duskbyday]

Funny thing, I showed my nephew a preview of this, to see his reaction and the first thing he said was "Why is Iron Man a teenager in school?"

Adults really think kids wont see the diffrence, how wrong they are:woot:

[Spider-Vader]

This show will fail. The animation is crap like the whole thing.
Why can't Iron Man get a good cartoon?

I hated the '90s show mainly because every episode was about Mandarin, IM does have other villains.

[3dman27]

there is an ironman adventures section on nickelodeon on demandthe first epshould be available to atatch there as wolveriene and the x-men's pilotwas

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I've read the synopsis for the first seven episodes. What's really frustrating is the fact that this show has the POTENTIAL of being the best Iron Man toon. It looks like story arcs and character development will be priorities in this show, and I like the varied use of several of Iron Man's rogues. Much better than the 90's show.

However, the Teen Tony idea is still useless and frustrating. I'm up for change and everything, as long as that change has a meaning. Teen Tony is change for change's sake. It's not like the stories would have been impossible to tell if he were an adult, with minor tweaking. They could've at least reached compromise and shown Tony in college. Still young, but would've been closer to his adult age, and is easier to show other traits like womanizing and a goatee.

Another thing that's killing the show is the 3D animation. The art and designs themselves are actually pretty good, but its the bland CGI that turning me off. Traditional 2D would have worked best.

I will give this show a fair chance. However, those are my complaints so far.

[sauronthegreat]

After watching the first two episodes I can say that this show proves to be something different. It's not a Spectacular Spider-Man or Wolverine and the X-Men for that matter, but it uses a different technique of animation, and to my surprise... it works. I like the animation, the action, and the designs I've seen so far are great! Designs of Blizzard, Whiplash and all others I saw are much better than any I saw earlier.
There is description and synopsis for all episodes and it sounds interesting.

http://www.tv.com/iron-man-armored-adventures/show/76425/episode.html

[Sam Fisher]

Umm, I don't get the hate towards him being younger. Fact is, the show is not aimed at us, it is aimed at kids. And kids are not gonna releate to a 30 something year old man with an alachol problem.

[MaskedManJRK]

Found the first episode for free on iTunes, so I decided to download it.

It's not BAD, actually. The animation and design's pretty good and the story, while cliched (obligatory train rescue anyone?), was written well enough. I still don't see a good reason to switch the age, other then the writers trying to go for something akin to Ultimate Iron-Man.

Speaking of which:

If they did it based on the Ultimate Iron-Man minis, it would be good...but they'll never show a teenage Obadiah Stane setting up Tonys dad for murder...

Never say never, my friend. :woot:

[Ironfan72]

I downloaded the first episode from itunes as well, and have to admit, the series looks pretty good, I like the animation, they are bringing alot of Iron Man's villains in, something that makes me happy, Mandarin looks very cool.
I am more than willing to give the series a chance and see what happens, I guess the old saying is true, you can't judge a book by it's cover and that seems to be true about this new series.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

So, MODOK will be appearing in this then...

I'll be watching. You can never go wrong with MODOK.:cwink:

[Sawyer]

Some info from comicscontinuum....

The Hulk will be featured in an episode of Nicktoons' upcoming Iron Man: Armored Adventures animated series.

The Hulk episode is title "Uncontrollable" and also features Rick Jones. The villain is the Controller.

In other Iron Man: Armored Adventures news:

* The initial 26-episode run will end with "Tales of Suspense," a two-parter episode that will feature Fin Fang Foom and Rhodey becoming War Machine.

* Marvel Comics will be publishing a comic book based on the series. Look for more details with the release of Marvel's July solicitations on Tuesday.

* The Toronto Blue Jays are teaming with Teletoons, the Canadian home of the series, for four promotions during the baseball season in which a costumed Iron Man appears. The next promotion will be on Tuesday, May 5.

[Duskbyday]

Design wise for the villains and the villains generally it looks alright, btw a clip with exclusive footage including first look of Unicorn.
I may not judge this show just yet, after 7 episodes I'll be preety sure what it's like.

[3dman27]

the first part of the prmiere episode is up at nicolodean on demand

[DOG LIPS]

the first part of the prmiere episode is up at nicolodean on demand

Wow, it is. Nice, going to give it a watch right now. :up::up:

[Nirvana]

This show is horrible. Seriously, what a piece of crap.

[Infinity9999x]

I actually don't think it's that bad. Yeah it's not great, and it's not close to the level of the old 90's Batman TAS, but I thought it was entertaining. The humor in it is all right, and it's definitely one of the smoothest looking cartoons out there. The action is very nice.

[Iron_Stark]

Horrible doesn't even begin to describe this P.O.S. show. I couldn't even finish watching the first episode.

Ugh, I hope it doesn't even finish the season.

Oh well at least we still have the 90s cartoon and the Avengers animated series coming in 2011.

[DOG LIPS]

I actually kind of like it. It's a fun little show, and it kept me interested as it went along. Much like Spider-Man Unlimited, it's going to be a bumpy love it/hate it ride, but I have to say, I really really hate the animation. :down

[Infinity9999x]

I actually kind of like it. It's a fun little show, and it kept me interested as it went along. Much like Spider-Man Unlimited, it's going to be a bumpy love it/hate it ride, but I have to say, I really really hate the animation. :down

It reminded me a bit of Reboot to be honest. The animation hasn't bothered me that much. The action scenes look nice, but the people look pretty spotty, which is pretty much what I've felt whenever I've watched one of the all cgi cartoon shows.

With regards to the material, since I'm not a hardcore IM fan it doesn't bother me quite as much, but I could definitely see why it would be a problem for some. I'm actually surprised they went with the teen route. Usually, cartoons try to stay close to the way the movies were, especially if the movie was popular. (Like B:TAS, when they still used character designs that resembled the movie characters.)

[DOG LIPS]

It reminded me a bit of Reboot to be honest. The animation hasn't bothered me that much. The action scenes look nice, but the people look pretty spotty, which is pretty much what I've felt whenever I've watched one of the all cgi cartoon shows.

With regards to the material, since I'm not a hardcore IM fan it doesn't bother me quite as much, but I could definitely see why it would be a problem for some. I'm actually surprised they went with the teen route. Usually, cartoons try to stay close to the way the movies were, especially if the movie was popular. (Like B:TAS, when they still used character designs that resembled the movie characters.)

I agree when things speed up the clunky animation isn't very noticeable, and you can just go with the flow. But when things slow down, it's like a world full of ventriloquist dummies. :csad:

I too am a casual IM fan, so the teen thing isn't a killer for me. They kept the heart damage thing, and it has pieces here and there, but it really is kind of an else worlds type deal.

[Infinity9999x]

I agree when things speed up the clunky animation isn't very noticeable, and you can just go with the flow. But when things slow down, it's like a world full of ventriloquist dummies. :csad:

I too am a casual IM fan, so the teen thing isn't a killer for me. They kept the heart damage thing, and it has pieces here and there, but it really is kind of an else worlds type deal.

Exactly, that's the way I've been treating it. And who knows, it definitely has potential to be interesting.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Oh well at least we still have the 90s cartoon and the Avengers animated series coming in 2011.

OK, I can admit that the second season was decent. However, the first season was just horrible. A true, juvenile abomination.

I've seen the first two episodes. Not bad. It deffinitely has the potential to be the best animated Iron Man (not that it's a big feat). The teen angle wasn't as bad or distracting as I thought. However, the animation is not good.

When is this show getting its own thread?

[Spider-ManHero12]

The show is pretty good so far, I'd say. I'll give it time.

[Ironfan72]

Yeah give it time, I actually liked it, Mandarin looks very cool, I liked the animation, but as had been said, it's going to be a love or hate it kind of show, nothing in between, but I'll watch the entire season and most likely will buy the DVD's when they are released.

[terry78]

Personality wise it is Tony Stark, but I am still not a fan of the teen angle.

[sauronthegreat]

The designs of the villains is definitely one of the best aspects of this show. The action and interaction with the surroundings in a fight also starts to impress me.

[TheVileOne]

I'm not digging it so far. I wish they did with Iron Man something like Wolverine and The X-men. But the good news is that we are getting a 616 style Avengers cartoon in a couple years and that will have a more canonical Tony Stark.

I don't really like the dialogue or the Canadian voice actors. Tony just doesn't feel like Tony to me.

I don't care for the ADD hyperactive Pepper Potts. How much of a ***** and idiot is she that she's blurting out top secret confidential FBI information for an investigation like that. That Stane is a murder suspect in the death of Howard Stark. What a freaking ditz. I'm already disliking Pepper in the show.

The animation style. Its a mixed bag. Some of the CG cel-shading I like, some of it I don't. It looks very similar to MTV Spider-man.

[Infinity9999x]

I'm not digging it so far. I wish they did with Iron Man something like Wolverine and The X-men. But the good news is that we are getting a 616 style Avengers cartoon in a couple years and that will have a more canonical Tony Stark.

I don't really like the dialogue or the Canadian voice actors. Tony just doesn't feel like Tony to me.

I don't care for the ADD hyperactive Pepper Potts. How much of a ***** and idiot is she that she's blurting out top secret confidential FBI information for an investigation like that. That Stane is a murder suspect in the death of Howard Stark. What a freaking ditz. I'm already disliking Pepper in the show.

The animation style. Its a mixed bag. Some of the CG cel-shading I like, some of it I don't. It looks very similar to MTV Spider-man.

I agree. And I feel about the same on the animation in this as I did with the Spider-man show. During the action scenes, it looks very nice. When it's just the character models...it looks like lifeless dummies.

[Chris B]

I watched a bit, but couldn't sit through it. I just couldn't tolerate what they did with the characters.

I know I'm just repeating what has been said by tons of others, but it just disappoints that Iron Man has yet to get a proper cartoon. Especially after the success of the film, you'd think Marvel would've push for one.

[CaptainStacy]

Thought it was ok....i would have preferred it tie in more with the movie continuity, i.e, a more adult version of the characters...

[TheVileOne]

Second season of the 90's show wasn't so bad.

Also remember, Iron Man will be a main character in the Avengers cartoon.

[FVD]

Well I never heard of the show until yesterday. Just saw the first two and a half episodes and it ain't that bad really. Sure I'm not digging the idea of Stark being a teen but I think I can deal with it. I'm glad we've seen Killer Shrike and Unicorn so far as Iron Man villains are concerned. And it looks like we'll be seeing Count Nefaria soon too.

I too wished the characters were older but I'll watch the full Season to make up my mind if I really like it. The animation was a bit of an eyesore at first but I've since come to appreciate it a little. I'm with Vile on the animation bearing a similarity to Wolverine and the X-Men. Ah well can't have everything can we?

I just hope the Avengers cartoon follows that direction as it's cool to have Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch on that show which is why I'd like to see the same animation on the Avengers. I can imagine what Iron Man, Cap and Thor will look like already. :P

[Goldenage Batman]

Hate it....

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Hate it....

Care to explain why?

[Blade X]

The first 2 parts of IM:AA have set a ratings record for NICKTOONS. IM:AA has scored the highest ratings in that networks history for a brand new original series. So love it or hate it, for good or bad, IM:AA is (so far) a huge hit with viewers. And after seeing episodes 3 and 4, I have to admit that this series keeps getting better with each episode.

[sauronthegreat]

I couldn't even imagine that villains like Blizzard, Killer Shrike and Unicorn could be done so well. And not just that.. they did marvels with them IMO.
I can't wait seeing the rest, and in the direction this is going I have no doubt that it will disappoint.
I'm glad for the ratings ;)

[JerseyJoker]

Im glad they are getting good rating, but its a horrible show and concept for the character.

I understand, for a marketing and financial reason why they set the show the way they did...but it reminds me of MTV Spider-Man and thats i FAAAR from a good thing.

[terry78]

He's IIIRRRRRRRONNNNNNNNN MANNNNNNNNNNN!

That **** has to go.