Marvel Character Versus

[K4tzm4n]

Hey everyone, I noticed there's only one limited to Marvel versus and that was shut down...So, I'll attempt to start one up. Hopefully the fights will still be fun. Be sure to read the rules! :yay:

First up:


The fight will take place in a 2 floor indoor shopping mall (unpopluated). Both teams start at opposing ends. Due to Sabretooth/Wolverines enhanced senses, Cyc/Cap are aware of who they are facing, but not given any prep. Can these 2 great strategists and leaders take down these two deadly characters? Wolverine has adamantium, Sabretooth does not. Cyclops is not allowed to remove his visor. Enjoy!


Cyclops & Captain America
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VS

Sabretooth & Wolverine
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/sabretooth.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/wolverine.jpg

[K4tzm4n]

Please be sure to vote only once. If it's not too much trouble, try and state why.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Cyclops and Cap.

You don't need to scan pics. Just go to wiki or spiderbobs ect. and copy a picture then upload it to photbucket or image shack and link it here.

[K4tzm4n]

ah, thank you. I guess I'll end up doing that...Assuming this thread works out.

[K4tzm4n]

Thanks a bunch Mighty Thor.

[K4tzm4n]

As much as I love Cap/Cyc...I think Sabe/Wolv would take the small majority here. Both teams have access to an entire mall...They're going to have stealth on their side. I'd say they'd take it maybe 5.5/10

[DoomRulz]

I say Cap and Cyclops purely b/c Sabretooth and Wolverine would never work together.

[K4tzm4n]

I say Cap and Cyclops purely b/c Sabretooth and Wolverine would never work together.

I was hoping someone would include that...I think they'd refuse to help one another, but wouldn't try to get the other one killed, just for the sake of making it out of this fight alive. They've been forced to work together in the past, this will be just like the others is my guess.

[K4tzm4n]

Cap/Cyc are currently leading 2-1

[Blacklight]

Cyke/Cap.

[K4tzm4n]

Mind if I ask why? It's Cyc/Cap 3-1. Once a team reaches 5 wins, I'll make a new match up.

[Blacklight]

Because Cap can take both Wolvie and Sabertooth, and with Cyclops shooting them out in the background it's an easy win.

[K4tzm4n]

I don't know about that much....From debating in the Marvel forums, the majority believe Wolverine can actually solo Cap. I believe it's 50/50, but most people seem to think otherwise. Plus, like I said, this is an indoor shopping mall. I doubt the team will just charge them in the open. They'll most likely encounter Cyc close range, or try to.

[Blacklight]

I still think they can take them.

[K4tzm4n]

That's fine. I'm not by any means saying you're wrong. Just wanted to discuss it. Plus, you already voted :)

[Bizzydog217]

Figured what they hell I would register. I would say that this match goes to the two strategists due to their ability to outsmart the raging twins. Also how Sabretooth and Wolverine might not behave and get along in the fight making it much more difficult for them to win.

[3dman27]

cap and his sidkick cyclops

[Harlekin]

I was hoping someone would include that...I think they'd refuse to help one another, but wouldn't try to get the other one killed, just for the sake of making it out of this fight alive. They've been forced to work together in the past, this will be just like the others is my guess.
Against Cap and Cycke? Wolverine would have no problem going over to the other side and seeing Sabretooth getting his ass beat.

[K4tzm4n]

Well, that's 6-1 for Cyc/Cap. Next match up shortly!

[K4tzm4n]

Here's a match that never really ended over on the Marvel forums...
Punisher VS Spider-Man(current)

Rules:

Spider-Man only has 1 extra web shooter cartridge, and obviously two already equipped. Punisher starts off with a machine gun with 500 rounds, a pistol with 4 clips, and a grenade. They're facing off in a completely unpopulated NYC. The city is completely devoid of people, but all of the cars and so forth still remain. They will start 2 blocks away from each other. Punisher's van with additional advanced weaponry is located 4 blocks behind his starting point. The entire city is their arena. They can go inside any building, sewer, rooftop, etc. So, who wins in this fight? Win can be via KO or death.


Punisher
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VS

Spider-Man
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[The_Mighty_Thor]

Spidey

[K4tzm4n]

I've always been mixed on this one, given the rules. Right now I'm 50/50, I'll vote at the end.

[Bizzydog217]

Spider-man wins only due to his spider-sense. He is also going to use his physical ability to defeat Punisher. When it comes down to a fight and an altercation Punisher won't be able to hit Spidy. The Punisher can use his guns to try and shot Spider-man but he can likely dodge most of the gun shots.

I think Spider-Man wins a 7/10 but Punisher is able to do the job and get things done if he needs to. Spider for the majority

[K4tzm4n]

Spider-man wins only due to his spider-sense. He is also going to use his physical ability to defeat Punisher. When it comes down to a fight and an altercation Punisher won't be able to hit Spidy. The Punisher can use his guns to try and shot Spider-man but he can likely dodge most of the gun shots.

I think Spider-Man wins a 7/10 but Punisher is able to do the job and get things done if he needs to. Spider for the majority


Good points. I just wish there was proper continuity with Punisher and his aim. In his earlier appearances, he shot Spider-Man with ease, claiming he can predict his movements. In the later arc's, it appeared Spidey was just annoying Pun and Pun wanted to just get him to go away. Given the settings, I'm actually giving Punisher a very small advantage. I think he'd take to the sewers right away, this great decreases Spidey's advantage of speed and agility. From there, he can work his way to his van.

[Bizzydog217]

Thing is does Spider-man know where Punisher's van is too? He has faced Frank in the past and knows about him so couldn't spidy get to the van first and either use his weapons (very out of his character) or maybe destroy them before Punisher can get to them

[K4tzm4n]

Hmmm, I didn't address that. Let's assume Punisher parked his van in an alley 4 blocks away. Spider-Man is unaware of it since NYC still filled with everything it would normally have, just not the people. If he see's Pun run in to the van, then he'll be sure to do something along those lines, ie take it out, disable it, steal stuff, assuming he can.

[Bizzydog217]

I figured I would ask because when Punisher is in the sewer Spidy is faster and can get to it first.

If not and Spidy can't see Frank he can go to a tall building and observe the entire city scape in hope to find Frank. I go with Spidy but a close match up

[Harlekin]

Sniper shot.

Dead Spidey.

[K4tzm4n]

So far it's tied up, 2-2.

[DoomRulz]

Spidey FTW. He has the Spider Sense. Castle would never get the drop on him.

[K4tzm4n]

3-2, Spider-Man...Be sure to read the rules guys :) Also, state why if it's not too much of a hassle.

[3dman27]

spideys spider sensew would warn the webslinger so spidey would have the strengthand speed to defeat any sniperfrank castle included

[SuperFerret]

Spider-Man could feasibly use his Spider-sense to track Castle seeing as how (a) NYC is deserted aside from Pete and Frank; and (b) Castle is intending to hurt Parker (i.e. a source of danger).

Spider-Man wins this one in my view.

[K4tzm4n]

Spider-Man wins, 5-2. Next match up in a bit.

[K4tzm4n]

Beast versus Green Goblin. The only weaponry Green Goblin is allowed to use is the machine gun on his glider which has 100 bullets. They'll face inside a 2 level factory. There are multiple rafters and so forth.


BEAST
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VS


GREEN GOBLIN
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[The_Mighty_Thor]

Goblin, he'll just stay out of range and lob pumkin bombs. Spidey has problems getting to him and he has webs and far greater leaping ability.

[K4tzm4n]

He doesnt have pumpkin bombs in this match. Also, it's a faily small arnea. I tried to balance this one as much as possible.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Machine guns, pumkin bombs what's the difference? He still stays out of range and blows Beast away.

[Matt Murdock]

Hmm. An interesting match. I'd say that in close quarters, GG would have the upper hand, as he's unrestrained and beast would probably hold back. Soooo GG.

[K4tzm4n]

Well, Beast as of late hasnt really been holding back. I'm basing this off of Beast in astonishin X-Men. Let's assume he'll reach the point of going "savage".

[Blacklight]

Norman can heal from wounds slightly, has his glider, and probably outdoes Beast in strength, so Goblin for me.

[3dman27]

i'd say the beast

[K4tzm4n]

I'm going to say Beast given the environment...He absolutely destroyed "Danger" when he went savage, and Danger took out all of the X-Men. I just think Beast never receives his proper credit and is highly underestimated. GG's machine gun wont do much good here, they're in an indoor arena with a fair amount of cover..It's almost like a playground for Beast. The tough part will be defeating GG in h2h. Beast has the speed and agility edge, but GG is clearly stronger. I think Beast will take it in the end due to his motivation.

[K4tzm4n]

So far it's 3-2, Green Goblin.

[K4tzm4n]

Also, if you guys have any suggestions for match ups please feel free to send me a PM.

[KenshinAtrain]

i say beast

[K4tzm4n]

It's now tied up, 3-3!

[SenseiofCheese]

I go with Beast. In such closed quarters, I don't think GG would have a whole lot of maneuverability with his glider. Sooner or later he'd run out of ammo or Beast would get him off the glider, which means hand-to-hand fighting. GG may be stronger, but I think Beast is much faster and more agile, and we've often times seen Spidey, for example, take someone who is much stronger than he is out by using his speed and dexterity.

[K4tzm4n]

I go with Beast. In such closed quarters, I don't think GG would have a whole lot of maneuverability with his glider. Sooner or later he'd run out of ammo or Beast would get him off the glider, which means hand-to-hand fighting. GG may be stronger, but I think Beast is much faster and more agile, and we've often times seen Spidey, for example, take someone who is much stronger than he is out by using his speed and dexterity.

That's pretty much exactly how I feel about this one.

[K4tzm4n]

Beast has taken the lead, 4-3.

[SenseiofCheese]

That's pretty much exactly how I feel about this one.

The thing is, I feel that GG relies way too heavily on his glider and equipment. As soon as he's on the ground, I think it's just a matter of time before he's beaten. If he were to combine his considerable strength with some actual fighting know-how, he'd be much more of a threat.

[K4tzm4n]

Agreed. He's never really demonstrated great h2h. It's a shame too, he could be quite a powerful foe.

[DoomRulz]

GG does have strength and stamina on his side though.

[K4tzm4n]

He does...I just think if Beast goes savage it won't matter much. This entire arena will be like a playground to Beast. His agility is going to help greatly here. Not to mention he can always use weaponry in the factory (steel beams and so forth). I think it will be a brutal fight for Beast, he's going to leave this one heavily injured...But he'll be the one walking away.

[Bizzydog217]

Beast wins this one due to his agility. Normally Goblin with his weaponry wipes the floor with him but here Beast can stomp him just by waiting for the bullets to run out. Afterward his agility and reflexes can make him overcome Goblin. I believe Goblin is a better h2h fighter than Beast, Beast's agility and ability makes him able to overcome this and take down Norman.

[K4tzm4n]

5-3 Beast...DoomRulz...Was that a vote for GG saying he has the better strength and durability?

[DoomRulz]

5-3 Beast...DoomRulz...Was that a vote for GG saying he has the better strength and durability?

Yes it was.

[K4tzm4n]

Okay...That makes it 5-4, Beast so far.

[CanaryFan]

I can't see Beast dodging machine gun fire! GG takes it.

[K4tzm4n]

Ut-oh...It's tied up, 5-5. Let's say the person that's ahead by 2 votes will win it.

[EasternComfort]

Beast wins this one due to his agility. Normally Goblin with his weaponry wipes the floor with him but here Beast can stomp him just by waiting for the bullets to run out. Afterward his agility and reflexes can make him overcome Goblin. I believe Goblin is a better h2h fighter than Beast, Beast's agility and ability makes him able to overcome this and take down Norman.I agree. Beast takes it.

[K4tzm4n]

6-5, Beast

[DoomRulz]

GG is a stronger individual though. And he won't simply 'get tired' from fighting with Beast. If he gets his hands on Beast, Hank is finished.

[K4tzm4n]

Have we ever seen Goblin attempt to go toe to toe with Spider-Man? No glider, no weapons? If so, how'd he do?

[K4tzm4n]

Also, if anyone has any requests for certain characters in the next match up, please feel free to send me a PM. :yay:

[KenshinAtrain]

Have we ever seen Goblin attempt to go toe to toe with Spider-Man? No glider, no weapons? If so, how'd he do?
i dont think so ...there was alot of hand to hand in the movie but not usre how much occured in the comics

[K4tzm4n]

I hope someone knows

[Spider-Vader]

Gobbie.

[Sieben]

Bast is uite possibly the most underrated X-Man EVAR! With not only his sped and agility, combined with animal ferocity and a superior intelligence, he outmatches Gobbo on nearly every level. As soon as Gobbo gets knocked from his glider, then it'd be game over for him.

So Beast, FTW.

[K4tzm4n]

7-6, Beast so far...

[Bizzydog217]

Seems like every time Beast is gonna take a win Gobbie comes back big to tie things up this match never gonna end lol

[K4tzm4n]

haha. I'll let 2-3 more people vote. We'll have to see who they vote for :)

[Franklin Richards]

Hank McCoy


Everyone's underestimating Hank the Scientist. I bet he could figure out a way to EMP that glider with items in his backpack. Not to mention his physical abilities.

Goblin would be toast.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[K4tzm4n]

8-6 for Beast...Beast wins after a long, long, long battle.

[Sieben]

Hank McCoy


Everyone's underestimating Hank the Scientist. I bet he could figure out a way to EMP that glider with items in his backpack. Not to mention his physical abilities.

Goblin would be toast.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Lol. Beast is McGuyver in diguise :woot:

[K4tzm4n]

Next match up is a request from Bizzydog217. Enjoy!


Rules:

-To make things fair, the fight will take place in central park at 10pm. It's darker out, but there's still light provided from the moon and lights on the paths. There's still a fair amount of civilians around jogging, walking dogs, etc. The teams start at opposing ends of the park and are aware of who they're fighting. Which team takes the victory?

For those that want additional information on Central Park:
http://www.centralpark.com/pages/maps/poster-maps.html


Captain America & Iron Fist
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VS


Lizard & Sabretooth (adamantium)
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[EasternComfort]

Cap/Fist

[K4tzm4n]

Care to state why?

[DoomRulz]

Cap/Fist b/c they're thinkers. Lizard is mindless to begin with and Sabretooth's instincts can kick in pretty quickly.

[K4tzm4n]

I know for this one it's easy to just say:

Cap > Lizard
Iron Fist > Sabretooth

But I really think it's far more complex. Given this environment, there are plenty of civilians for the two villains to use to their advantage. Not to mention both will use the stealth to their advantage. Sabretooth with the adamantium could most likely go at it with Iron Fist for quite awhile, maybe even take a small majority. I think Lizard is highly underestimated as well. He's stronger, faster, and more durable than Spider-Man. Not to mention he has a tail which can attack at a high speed and is capable of destroying cement. Also, there's sorta the whole healing factor which will replace lost limbs relatively fast.

[K4tzm4n]

This isn't the dumb version of Lizard. He has intellect in this one.

[K4tzm4n]

So far 2-0 for Cap/Fist.

I'm siding a bit with the villains here...I'll think about it a bit more before I vote.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Lizard and Sabertooth. The Lizard is just too fast and powerful for Cap and would quickly join Creed against Iron Fist. Between regeneration and healing factors Iron fist would get overwhelmed.

[K4tzm4n]

2-1, Cap/Fist.

[K4tzm4n]

I'll throw in my vote to even it up. My vote goes towards Lizard/Tooth, thinking they'd take a small majority here.


Currently tied, 2-2.

[Sieben]

Both Villains could and would use the enviroment and the innocents to their advantage, taking advantage of both Cap and Fist. It'd be a brutal fight to be sure, but the villains win out on this one.

[K4tzm4n]

The villains have taken the lead, 3-2.

[SenseiofCheese]

Lizard and Sabretooth, even more so if it's the version of the Lizard that retains Curt's intellect.
The result of this fight hinges completely on Sabretooth vs. Captain America. If Creed goes for Cap, and the Lizard goes for Iron Fist, then it all depends on whether Creed or Cap wins their fight. If Creed wins, then it's Iron Fist vs Lizard and Sabretooth, and I believe Danny would have a hard time against Lizard by himself, let alone the two of them.
However if Cap. takes Sabretooth, then it's Danny and Steve vs Lizard, and I'm pretty sure they take that.

So, in my opinion it comes down to Iron Fist keeping Lizard busy while Creed and Captain America go at it.

Writers tend to forget that Creed isn't really a COMPLETE beast, as in he has been expertly trained. However, Captain America would take it on experience alone.

My vote goes for Cap and Fist.

[K4tzm4n]

Nice summary. Looks like it's tied again, 3-3.

[Blacklight]

Cap and Fist because Iron Fist could take them both and Cap would easily outsmart Sabertooth until he could help out Fist against Connors.

[3dman27]

cap and the fist take it if takes the lizard and the tooh gets excuse the expression "cap-ed"

[theoneandonly]

im going with the lizard and sabretooth, because it is dark lizard would be sneaking around the others and would strike then retreat and do it again and sabretooth is an evil mother fu****

[CanaryFan]

The villians, healing factors and ruthlessness.

[K4tzm4n]

Well, it's tied up again, 5-5.

[SonnyBlack]

I think Cap can take both villains and at least while danny can hold his own at least enough to get Cap's help. Cap-Fist

[SonnyBlack]

Double Post

[K4tzm4n]

Cap & Fist have taken the lead, 6-5.

[Paloogin]

Sabretooth and Lizard.

Sabretooth, when he has the adamantium, was a complete psycho overpowered badass. And then plus Lizard as well, I reckon it'd be a synch.

[K4tzm4n]

Looks like it's back to a tie...6-6.

[Logan vs Wade]

The civilians and the environment are the keys here. Cap is especially a sucker for saving civilians so I think he could easily be defeated or distracted. And who's to say they have to each pair up and fight 1v1?
As deliciously evil as Sabretooth is, I'm sure he could figure out how to put a civilian or group of civilans in danger in such a way that it would take Cap away from the fight while the villains pound on Iron Fist.


My vote goes for the villains.

[K4tzm4n]

Villains have taken the lead, 7-6. Also, welcome to the forums Logan vs Wade...Maybe in your honor I'll make the next match up Wolv V Deadpool, lol.

[Red X]

Captain America & Iron Fist

[K4tzm4n]

Looks like it's back to a tie...7-7.

[Silver Spider]

Whoa Logan vs. Wade, did you just make your account today?
Anyways, greetings from another newbie.

[Silver Spider]

I think that Sabretooth and Lizard would probably win given their healing factors. Cap and Fist are great fighters and awesome strategists, but Sabretooth is like a pumped up Wolverine and Lizard can take down Spiderman sometimes.

[K4tzm4n]

Sabretooth and Lizard take the win in a very close match up, 8-7

Next match up in a bit!

[K4tzm4n]

This next one if for our new member, Logan vs Wade...

Deadpool is armed with 2 adamantium swords, 2 smgs (1 extra clip each), and 2 grenades.

Wolverine has his adamantium.

-They start at opposing ends of a football stadium.
-There are a few 10x10 wooden crates scattered along the field for cover.
-They are allowed to access the seating, but not go inside the stadium.
-Win declared by KO or incapacitation.
Who wins?


Deadpool
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VS

Wolverine
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/wolverine.jpg

[KenshinAtrain]

thats tough with the adamantium sword in play it almost levels the field a bit ..eventually deadpool will run out of ammo then its just up to the sword. After a bit of fighting he could very well become unarmed if he loses or drops the sword. Wolverine's healing comes into play meaning he can take a beating and keep comin for more. i would have to say Logan FTW

[K4tzm4n]

I see this one being a 50/50...I'll save my vote until later.

[K4tzm4n]

Especially since Logan's healing is back to how it should be...Loss of vital organs = death. Deadpool, on the other hand is cursed with immortality. Although, I made the rules so if they become incapacitated, it's over.

[SonnyBlack]

It can go either way on most occasions but I'll say Deadpool uses the ammo and granades to "soften" wolverine up enough for the sword blow to take wolverine out.

[Silver Spider]

It can go either way on most occasions but I'll say Deadpool uses the ammo and granades to "soften" wolverine up enough for the sword blow to take wolverine out.

I agree.

[K4tzm4n]

It's currently 2-1, Deadpool. I expect this to be another close one :)

[DoomRulz]

Hm...this would be a stalemate b/c they both have the healing factor. Wolverine's adamnatium can't be penetrated, but gutting Deadpool wouldn't work b/c DP's healing factor is even more efficient.

In fact, in a DP comic Wolverine and DP got into a fight, which ended with Wolverine literally ripping his stomach out and DP still lived. ALTHOUGH...Deadpool did faint for a while, so I guess Wolverine would win by KO like Katzman initially said.

[K4tzm4n]

Well, in that fight DP would also literally going insane. He stopped fighting and turned around to talk to someone that wasn't even there. They've had their fair share of bouts, I'd say the wins are about even.

[K4tzm4n]

At any rate, it's tied up, 2-2.

[Matt Murdock]

Wade Wilson.

[K4tzm4n]

Deadpool has taken the lead, 3-2.

Btw, cool avatar Matt Murdock.

[3dman27]

logan

[K4tzm4n]

Back to a tie, 3-3.

[CanaryFan]

Wolverine

[K4tzm4n]

Wolverine jumps ahead, 4-3.

[SenseiofCheese]

I think what this might come down to is Deadpool's teleportation. I vote Wade.

[Red X]

Deadpool. He's beat him before.

[Logan vs Wade]

Villains have taken the lead, 7-6. Also, welcome to the forums Logan vs Wade...Maybe in your honor I'll make the next match up Wolv V Deadpool, lol.


Thanks for the welcome! And it's very awesome that you set up the next matchup in my honor. Man this is a hard one to decide though, I love these two characters way too much. They are both great at H2H combat, with Deadpool being a bit superior in that category. Since they both have the healing factor the real deal breaker is Wolvie's adamantium skeleton.
Even with DP having an adamantium sword, it won't cut through the skeleton. (will it?)
This would be a long, drawn out, and hilarious fight. I think Wolverine would eventually decapitate DP like he did in Cable & Deadpool. Sure DP would be able to recover but he'd be knocked out which would technically be a win given the rules. And I'm assuming Wolverine goes into Berzerker Rage just cuz DP annoys the hell out of him.
Oh and please ignore their current battle in Wolverine Origins, it's been a real letdown so far, except for that last panel with the two passed out leaning on eachother standing up.

I'm conflicted as hell, but I vote for Wolverine. Sorry DP.

[Logan vs Wade]

Whoa Logan vs. Wade, did you just make your account today?
Anyways, greetings from another newbie.

Hey man. Nice to meet you and thanks for the greeting.
Yeah I've been a long time visitor of these forums but this thread inspired me to finally make an account.

Hi everyone.

[Silver Spider]

Hey man. Nice to meet you and thanks for the greeting.
Yeah I've been a long time visitor of these forums but this thread inspired me to finally make an account.

Hi everyone.

You're welcome.
Yeah I've been roaming this board for a couple years now, but just made an account a couple months ago. I had never made an account on a website like this before, but I'm glad I did.
I created accounts on Gamefaqs and Youtube on the same day.

[Logan vs Wade]

Yeah I like these forums as long as the tone remains friendly.

So this is a close match huh? I think we might have a tie..

[Silver Spider]

^I think it should end at a stalemate.

[Logan vs Wade]

^I think it should end at a stalemate.

Yep. With the way they match up, it probably would be a draw.

[K4tzm4n]

Yup, so far it's 5-5. The adamantium sword won't break Wolverine's bones...I just game him that so Wolverine can't cut Deadpool's swords in half. :)

[Logan vs Wade]

Where is everyone?

Maybe we should end this one in a well-deserved tie and start the next match-up.

[K4tzm4n]

Unfortunately it takes a good amount of time until people post :(

My vote goes with Deadpool...I honestly believe he'd take a small majority of wins over Wolverine...

Bringing the total to 6-5, Deadpool.

I'll give this a little more time to let a few more get a chance to vote.

[spidey11]

i go for deadpool, i think he have a small advantage

[K4tzm4n]

Deadpool defeats Wolverine, 7-5. Next match up shortly!

[K4tzm4n]

Next up is Bullseye VS Hawkeye (616).

-Fight takes place in a construction zone for a NYC skyscraper at night.

-Bullseye comes equipped with:
20 throwing stars
10 daggers
3 grenades

-Hawkeye comes equipped with:
30 steel arrows
3 explosive tipped arrows

Don't forget they're facing at a construction zone. There's plenty of weaponry to be found. Shovels, nails, and so forth. Who takes the win?



Bullseye
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Bullseye.jpg

VS

Hawkeye
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Hawkeye.jpg



Don't forget to state why... Enjoy!

[K4tzm4n]

Just fyi...For the single matches...I'm going to pair off the winners in a bigger match later on.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Hawkeye. Arrows are acurate at a longer range

[K4tzm4n]

True...Just keep in mind where they're fighting. It's not that big of an arena with lots of cover. I tried to even the odds as much as possible. Also, it's night time.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

a skyscrapper construction site is at least a few hundred square feet.

[K4tzm4n]

Also, Bullseye managed to kill someone with a toothpick in a building across the street...

[K4tzm4n]

Just saying while it's true arrows are more accurate, I don't think that's a big factor here.

[K4tzm4n]

Well, at the moment it's Hawkeye 1-0.

[Red X]

Hawkeye.

[K4tzm4n]

I like them equally...But I'm giving the edge to Bullseye. Hawkeye has recently proven his skills in hand to hand, but I don't believe it would match up to Bullseye, who has recently taken on Daredevil AND Elektra in hand to hand. Bullseye is simply far more ruthless, I believe he'll make proper use of the cover (like he did versus Captain America). He's surrounded by weaponry he'll gladly use where-as Hawkeye is going to focus on using his bow first. The reason Bullseye misses Daredevil is due to his enhanced senses and agility....But somehow, he was able to supress and even hurt Spider-Man, despite using a webshield. It would be a good match up, but what it comes down to is Bullseye goes to kill with his first few shots. So, Bullseye.

[K4tzm4n]

So far it's 2-1, Hawkeye.

[Franklin Richards]

When all the ammo runs out, Hawkeye will kick Bullseye's butt.

Hawkeye was trained by Captain America. Nuff said.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[K4tzm4n]

Actually, I don't think "nuff said" lol. Hawkeye is great in h2h, but he's not an equal to Cap. Bullseye on the other hand has gone toe to toe with Daredevil countless times and like I said, recently was able to try and take on Daredevil AND Elektra in h2h. Hawkeye has yet to really prove himself in that department.

[K4tzm4n]

Also, I don't believe ammo running out would be an issue. Considering how accurate both of them are, they have plenty to use. Not to mention the environment.

[K4tzm4n]

Currently 3-1, Hawkeye.

[Logan vs Wade]

I vote for Bullseye.

He's more ruthless and much better in a melee fight. I'd think he would dodge and distract enough of Hawkeye's shot until he got up close and sealed the deal.

[Silver Spider]

I like them equally...But I'm giving the edge to Bullseye. Hawkeye has recently proven his skills in hand to hand, but I don't believe it would match up to Bullseye, who has recently taken on Daredevil AND Elektra in hand to hand. Bullseye is simply far more ruthless, I believe he'll make proper use of the cover (like he did versus Captain America). He's surrounded by weaponry he'll gladly use where-as Hawkeye is going to focus on using his bow first. The reason Bullseye misses Daredevil is due to his enhanced senses and agility....But somehow, he was able to supress and even hurt Spider-Man, despite using a webshield. It would be a good match up, but what it comes down to is Bullseye goes to kill with his first few shots. So, Bullseye.

I think I'll have to agree with you here. I mean even when Bullseye runs out of ammo(if he runs out of ammo) he can throw any old object laying around, while Hawkeye will just be out.

[SonnyBlack]

Close match but I have to give the odds to Bullseye on this one.

[Bizzydog217]

Bullseye takes this match because of the only reason he has. He is much more cunning, ruthless, and evil. He also never misses and although I love Hawkeye I can't see him winning here.

[K4tzm4n]

Bullseye jumps ahead, 5-3

[CanaryFan]

Hawkeye

[K4tzm4n]

Bullseye is still in the lead, 5-4

[DoomRulz]

Bullseye. The guy can turn anything into a weapon and use it with unerring accuracy.

[K4tzm4n]

Bullseye's jumps ahead even more, 6-4

[K4tzm4n]

The next match up will be a 2v2, consisting of the winners from the 1v1 battles. So far it's Spider-Man, Beast, Deadpool and then whoever wins this one. I'm thinking this winner/Deadpool V Spider-Man & Beast? Anyone think the line up should differ?

[Silver Spider]

The next match up will be a 2v2, consisting of the winners from the 1v1 battles. So far it's Spider-Man, Beast, Deadpool and then whoever wins this one. I'm thinking this winner/Deadpool V Spider-Man & Beast? Anyone think the line up should differ?

I don't know. Maybe put Spiderman on Deadpool's side. Having a guy with perfect accuracy and Deadpool on one team doesn't really seem fair. I mean even Spidey and Beast can't dodge forever.

[K4tzm4n]

Hmmm...Perhaps Spider-Man/Current winner VS Deadpool/Beast?

[K4tzm4n]

I just feel like Spider-Man AND Deadpool would be a bit unfair.

[K4tzm4n]

But in the meantime, let's get a few more votes for this one :)

[Silver Spider]

Hmmm...Perhaps Spider-Man/Current winner VS Deadpool/Beast?

Yeah I was thinking about that too, but whatever you think would work best.

[K4tzm4n]

Bullseye takes the win, 6-4...New match will be up in a bit!

[K4tzm4n]

Next up:

Spider-Man/Bullseye VS Deadpool/Beast

Rules:
-Spider-Man is the current version...Has no additional webbing ammo if the 2 are used up.
-Bullseye has 20 throwing stars, 1 grenade & 2 sai's.

-Deadpool has 1 submachine gun with 2 clips, 2 adamantium swords & 2 grenades.
-Deadpool cannot teleport.
-If Deadpool is KO'd, he's eliminated.
-Beast has no weaponry, but is able to go "savage".

Setting:
-Both teams will start at opposing ends of an unpopluated NYC block.
-Everything will still be around, just not the people. This includes parked cars and so forth.
-They are limited to the 1 block area.
-They are allowed to go into buildings, but not the sewer.

Don't forget to give a reason in your vote....Enjoy!



Spider-Man / Bullseye
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Spider-Man.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Bullseye.jpg

VS

Deadpool / Beast
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Deadpool.gif http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Beast.jpg

[Silver Spider]

As much as I love Spiderman, I'd have to give this to Deadpool and Beast. Both teams seem to be pretty evenly matched in fighting abilities, but with Deadpool and Beast having healing factors they could just outlast Spidey and Bullseye.

[K4tzm4n]

Whoops...I forgot to address in the rules what counts as an elimination with Deadpool's healing factor...

[K4tzm4n]

I recently read Deadpool...I believe 34 or 37, where Bullseye and DP actually KO each other at the exact same time. Keep in mind...There are parked cars...I see Deadpool and Bullseye trying to create a good amount of explosions.

[Silver Spider]

Okay, well I don't really know much about savage Beast. Is he just more vicious with enhanced abilities or does he gain more powers?

[K4tzm4n]

His intelligence goes out the window and he doesn't hold back...It's pretty much his equivalent to Wolverines beserker rage.

[Silver Spider]

Well that's going to give him an edge. So by current Spider-man, that's after the One More Day story, right?

[DoomRulz]

Deadpool and Beast b/c like Sabretooth and Wolverine, Spider-Man and Bullseye won't work together.

[K4tzm4n]

Well that's going to give him an edge. So by current Spider-man, that's after the One More Day story, right?


Yes.


And DoomRulz, they may not work together...But I don't see them trying to work against one another. I don't see Deadpool and Beast using teamwork either...Pretty much seems like everyone in this will be doing their own thing.

[Silver Spider]

I think once Spidey runs out of web fluid it'll be all over, unless his team has already won.

[SonnyBlack]

The only way I see DP and Beast winning is if they can take out Bullseye and then double team on Spiderman. Since this is easier said than done I'll give the edge to Spidey/Bullseye

[CanaryFan]

Spidey and Bullseye.

[Harlekin]

Deadpool and Beast.

[K4tzm4n]

Deadpool and Beast are currently in the lead, 3-2.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Spiderman and Bullseye

[Lobo]

Spidey and Bullseye

[Red X]

Spidey and Bullseye

[K4tzm4n]

Spider-Man/Bullseye just leaped ahead, 5-3.

[Bizzydog217]

Deadpool and Beast win this one easily. The BND Spidy holds back and is back to his lame old self minus his new bag of cool tricks. Deadpool is amazing and equal to Wolverine in fighting skills or is nearly close to him. If I were Deadpool and Beast I would send Beast savage after Bullseye. Deadpool can eliminate Spidy and then if Beast hasn't taken out Bullseye they work together to obtain a KO

Dead and Beast win

[SonnyBlack]

You seriously think that Deadpool and Beast can beat them easily especially with the surroundings? First of all having the fighting skills means zip if you can't hit you opponent. Spiderman has better agility and his spider-sense and stronger strength on top of that. As for Beast going savage remember he first has to reach him without getting an assortment of objects lodged into his brain first. It is possible but very hard to do...if they did pull out a win which I highly doubt they could it sure as hell won't come easily.

[Matt Murdock]

The interesting dynamic here, to me at least, is that Deadpool and Bullseye both have flawless aim. So, if one assumes that Deadpool and Bullseye, the arrogant bastards that they are, both take each other out at the very start of the bout, then this only becomes a fight between beast and spidey. If beast goes savage, it's all over.

Deadpool and Beast.

[K4tzm4n]

Interesting points...However, I wouldnt agree with Deadpool having flawless aim. He's good, but certainly misses. At any rate, it's tied up, 5-5.

[Hulk of Steel]

I'll say Spider-Man and Bullseye win this one. Spider-Man's agility and spider-sense will allow him to avoid any attack of Deadpool's, thus enabling him to take out Deadpool with a web-slung car or two. Even in rage mode, Beast is no rampaging Hulk. His buzz will wear off and he won't be able to fend off Bullseye and Spidey for long. Spider-Man and Bullseye win.
:bh: :supes:

[K4tzm4n]

Spidey/Bullseye take the lead, 6-5.

[Bizzydog217]

I think Spidy and Bullseye would put up a fight but in the end they would lose. Bullseye wouldn't realize the items in the brain would hurt him, so he would throw the items at Beasts head making him go Savage.

[Kidthor]

spidey and bullseye spidey makes a big ass webball and bullseye throws it in beasts eye beast then goes berzerker rage and tears deadpool to shreds
lol only jokin it wont be that easy but they still have my vote:D

[K4tzm4n]

Spider-Man / Bullseye go ahead a little bit more, 7-5. I'm just going to leave this match up for the rest of the day...Please feel free to PM me with requests for the next match up!

[Logan vs Wade]

Deadpool/Beast

[K4tzm4n]

Spider-Man and Bullseye take the victory, 7-6. Next match up in a bit.

[K4tzm4n]

Next up is Venom (Eddie) VS The Thing.

This fight will take place in a filled parking lot at night. KO counts as a win. The Thing is aware of the symbiotes weaknesses, due to the recent events in Mighty & New Avengers. So, who takes the win and why?


VENOM
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Venom.jpg


VS


THE THING
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/Thing.jpg

[K4tzm4n]

I'm honestly thinking Venom can pull the win here...He has more than enough strength to web Thing up and toss him around into countless cars, causing a great amount of explosions resulting in the eventual KO of Thing. Venom could also suffocate him, like he often threatens either by webbing his entire head (like he did to Spider-Man) or even webbing directly down the throat. Thoughts?

[Silver Spider]

Can the Thing make a sonic clap? If he can't, then I think Venom will win.

[K4tzm4n]

I believe so...But not nearly to the same effect as Hulk...And Hulk had to hit Venom with a few of them, IIRC.

[K4tzm4n]

But the weakness to fire will come into play here as well....There's bound to be plenty of cars blowing up.

[Matt Murdock]

Venom might actually be able to pull out a win.

[Silver Spider]

But the weakness to fire will come into play here as well....There's bound to be plenty of cars blowing up.

Yeah I thought of that, but with his reflexes and "spider" sense should be enough to avoid the explosions.

[K4tzm4n]

Yeah I thought of that, but with his reflexes and "spider" sense should be enough to avoid the explosions.

Which is also why I think it'll be tough for Ben to pull a win here, even with sonic claps. Keep in mind it's a full parking lot...So 1 explosion is most likely going to start a chain reaction.

[Franklin Richards]

You guys gotta be kidding me. Our boy Benjy would make short work of Venom. He's in his element too. If he runs outta cars he'll just go underground and blast him with a pipe full of water, gas, or electricity.

Ben is way to smart to NOT beat Venom's ass. Plus Ben's got the edge in experience. Alien tactics is what this Imaginaut does for a living.

And when it comes to Willpower there's no beating Ben Grimm.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/Marvel20Two-In-One20Annual2007-00fc.jpg


This match easily goes to the Ever Lovin' Blue Eyed Idol of Millions.

Match goes to The Thing.


:thing: :thing: :thing:

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Venom would prabably win, even though he sucks!

[K4tzm4n]

Easily? I really disagree there. This was a much debated match up on my previous forum. Venom has the strength to "slug" it out with Thing as well as toss him around with the sybmiote. Yes, Thing clearly has the experience edge but I doubt that means this will be an easy win for him. Just look at what happend to him vs Wolverine in Enemy of the State :cwink:

[K4tzm4n]

So Silver Spider, does your vote go to Thing based on your first post?

[Silver Spider]

No, I've gotta go with my boy, Venom.

[K4tzm4n]

Ah, okay. Just trying to tally up the votes so far.

[K4tzm4n]

So far Venom is ahead, 4-1.

[K4tzm4n]

Franklin, I'm not trying to bash Thing here, I'd only put a match which I honestly view as even or debatable. Saying Thing has intellect and experience over Venom should help, but Spider-Man has the exact same and we've seen the outcome to many of their bouts...

[Franklin Richards]

Easily? I really disagree there. This was a much debated match up on my previous forum. Venom has the strength to "slug" it out with Thing as well as toss him around with the sybmiote. Yes, Thing clearly has the experience edge but I doubt that means this will be an easy win for him. Just look at what happend to him vs Wolverine in Enemy of the State :cwink:

For Ben, getting knocked around for a bit is par for the course. :woot:

But then he picks himself up and proceeds to wipe his ass with Venom. Ben has faced many enemies who have tried to suffocate him and use distance as a tactic to stay away from his best sunday punch. But he always gets the win. Some instances come to mind :

Diablo's Water Elementals
Paste Pot Pete
Sandman
Hydroman
Red Ghost's apes
Terrax
Absorbing Man


But he always gets in on them and then it's all over. I'd also like to point out my trump card again.

Ben's Willpower.

Read that comic above among others like when he walked to the center of Ego despite the pressure and threw a bomb at his brain.

Nobody stops a righteous Ben Grimm.

:thing: :thing: :thing:

[BlackAdam]

Its a close call if its Brock in the mix, but how would it it swing if Dozy gargon was in the Black and whites.....?

Have to go for good old stoney face as the winner though he does, and has used some tactics as well as brute force in the past.

[K4tzm4n]

Welcome to the boards, BlackAdam, Venom is still ahead, 4-2.

[Hulk of Steel]

I'll throw my lot in with the Thing. This would definitely be a fight to the finish. Wouldn't the explosion of at least one car be enough to weaken the symbiote? If so, Ben's got plenty of opportunities for a victory. If not, Ben will outlast Venom and take the victory.

:bh:

[K4tzm4n]

Venom has been through plenty of explosions...I think people tend to think that fire or sound being NEAR him is enough to damage him...It normally takes a really concentrated direct hit.

[K4tzm4n]

At any rate, Venom is slightly ahead, 4-3.

[Silver Spider]

Isn't Venom more vulnerable to sonics then to heat, while Carnage is vice versa.

[K4tzm4n]

Hmmm, not sure.

[Silver Spider]

Venom has been through plenty of explosions...I think people tend to think that fire or sound being NEAR him is enough to damage him...It normally takes a really concentrated direct hit.

Yeah, heat and sonics are vulnerabilities of Venom, they're not like his Kryptonite or Achilles' heel. Instead of sound and fire allowing you to destroy him it's more like, you stand a better chance at not dying with them.

[BlackAdam]

Cmon Grimm you can do it, ps if it was the vemon from Spiderman 3, he will only be in the fight for five mins, Ben would knock a couple of poles together and sam raimi will get caught in the cross fire.

[K4tzm4n]

^I'd like to pretend that version of Venom never happend...lol.

[Silver Spider]

Bump

[SonnyBlack]

Nice choice K4 i'll have to go with the thing on this one even though it might take a while for him to finally pin venom down.

[Logan vs Wade]

This is a tough one.

From the two pictures shown, I'm going to pick Venom because he looks a lot cooler. :up:

Yeah I'm lazy.

[K4tzm4n]

Venom's only slightly ahead, 5-4!

[SuperFerret]

Ben takes it. You guys are all concernin yourselves with "how is Ben going to take advantage of Venom's weaknesses?" but you're forgetting that Venom isn't invincible and can still be pummelled into submission. All Benjy needs to do is get Brock within arms reach (something he's quite good at doing) and he wins.

[DoomRulz]

Except that Venom is infinitely more agile than Ben and has supremely strong webbing too.

[Red X]

The Thing.

[K4tzm4n]

DoomRulz, is that a vote for Venom? If so, it's currently 6-6. If not, Thing takes the lead 6-5.

[Lobo]

Thing

[CanaryFan]

The Thing

[CaptainStacy]

Ben FTW! :thing: :up:

[SenseiofCheese]

Grimm love!

[Franklin Richards]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/FF51.jpg

The Ever-Lovin' Blue Eyed Idol of Millions!!!


:thing: :thing: :thing:

[Paloogin]

I'll go for Venom. Even it up a bit. And he is vicious and brutal and bloodthirsty, and willing to use innocents to get his way. And he's agile. And can sometimes turn invisible.

[SuperFerret]

I'll go for Venom. Even it up a bit. And he is vicious and brutal and bloodthirsty, and willing to use innocents to get his way. And he's agile. And can sometimes turn invisible.

Doesn't Brock still have that "I don't hurt innocents for no reason" thing?

[Doctor Doom]

Venom will take it, due to his speed and agility on par with that of Spider-man. Strength may not be an issue if The Thing is involved, but with webbing in The Things eyes, I doubt he'll manage to lay enough blows to counteract Venom.

I vote Venom.

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

The Thing for me.

All Venom has is the ole webbing in the eyes trick to use. Ben has him beat any day of the week in power, skills and character quality.

[K4tzm4n]

I haven't counted it yet (I'm at work), but it looks like The Thing actually took the lead. Please feel free to leave suggestions for the next match up!

[K4tzm4n]

Sorry I haven't updated in awhile...

The Thing made a huge comeback and eventually clobbered Venom to a KO.

Next match up will be up shortly!

[K4tzm4n]

Next match up will be MOON KNIGHT VS CROSSBONES.

Location: Central Park(NYC) at night. Half moon.
Prep time: Both combatants have 10 minutes to gear up for this battle.
Other rules: Both combatants will start at opposing ends of Central Park.
Victory is declared by death in this match up, not knock out.


MOON KNIGHT

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/mk.jpg



VS


CROSSBONES

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/k4tzm4n/cb-1.jpg


So who takes the victory and please be sure to say why! Let's get some sort of debate going for these :yay:

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Moon Knight

[Doctor Doom]

Moon Knight.

[K4tzm4n]

I'm going to go with Crossbones on this one. The guy goes toe to toe with Cap on a regular basis and is just brutal. I think this would be a hell of a slug out, especially since Moon Knight is known for the amount of pain he can take. In the end, Moon Knight will end up with a bullet in his head.

Moon Knight is in the lead, 2-1.

[Harlekin]

Moon Knight.

[SenseiofCheese]

Moon Knight is pretty damn brutal in his own right. That, plus with Konshu egging him on, I'm pretty sure he'd take it.

[K4tzm4n]

4-1, Moon Knight.
Moon Knight recently stopped listening to Konshu. Anyone else care to elaborate on why you guys think Spectre would take it? I still believe Crossbones would.

[Doctor Doom]

Moon Knight took on a Werewolf and survived. You mention that both will have ten minutes to prepare, I'm sure Moon Knight would deal more deadly weapons than just boomerangs and brass knuckles if he knew he was getting in a gun fight. If he's just used to fighting stronger foes with just those weak weapons, imagine if he used ones that fit his mercenary lifestyle, if it's a fight to the death.

Moon Knight happends to have adamantium weapons as well, and when that metal's involved, probability goes down significantly. Also, I think Taskmaster is a more formitable villain than Crossbones and he still lost to M.K..

Moon Knights is just a better character, and the better character takes the popularity of a writer's mind.

[K4tzm4n]

5-1 Moon Knight.

I don't think I've ever seen Moon Knight use a boomerang...lol. He normally uses cresent daggers. Also, his first appearance was in Werewolf by Night. Most character's first appearance's have them being immensely powerful. Imagine if he got slashed a few times and then was down? Worst new character ever lol. Anyway, I clearly placed them against each other because I felt it was a balanced battle. Crossbones takes on the likes of Captain America and even swiftly beat Bullseye (my favorite character =( ). He's a master of hand to hand combat and HIGHLY efficient with all weapons, which is why he's such a good assassin. I think it would be an amazing battle to watch.

By the way, Moon Knight's win over Taskmaster was complete BS. I don't like Taskmaster and I love Moon Knight, but I was hoping for something far better than that.