Things You Want In The Future

[spideyman101]

I'm not just talking about villains or characters. What effects, music styles, costumes, ideas, atmosphere? And yes, maybe villains and characters.

I'd like to see Batman III (Shadow of the Bat, as I call it) taking place in the winter (like Batman Returns). As for villains, of course, Two-Face should return. And possibly Catwoman? And maybe Black Mask. Mr. Freeze should be left for a film that takes place in Summer. Or maybe Winter, so he can survive better. What's your opinion?

With Robin possibly arriving in the future how about coming up with a special Robin theme by Zimmer that at the very end ties up with Batman's Zimmer theme.

I'd like the costume to more or less stay the same. How about adopting the original chest logo? Robin should eventually adopt the Nightwing mantle and be called Nightwing. Perhaps call Batman 4 or 5 Batman & Nightwing.

I think the Bat cave should be a bit more high tech in the future. But still have the gritty feeling BF and B&R lacked.

What are the chances of the Batboat and Batwing to make their debut in future Nolan films? Done as realistically as possible. Also a Batmobile that looks a little more sleek would be nice. Perhapes the Tumbler with a sleeker touch. Tumbler 2.0 :cwink:


What are you guys' ideas and opinions?

[JokerLedger]

I want Nolan to complete his trilogy... meaning no robin and no flashy villains such as freeze. clayface, etc.

I expect a new batmobile, the batcave, Selina Kyle and Catwoman, and the Riddler with a cameo of Penguin running the Iceberg lounge... pretty much I want Nolan to close off his universe with the third and have a whole new take a couple years later.

[spideyman101]

Well, maybe after Nolan's Trilogy someone else can come back (or maybe Nolan can come back) and do a second trilogy. It doesn't have to be flashy. Robin and Freeze were made flashy by Schumacher. They can be done well. No bright red suit. Maybe a very dark red suit for Robin. Maybe even closer to a Nightwing story. Maybe just have Grayson as someone who stays at Wayne Manor and manages to get Bruce to teach him how to fight and he begins to go out in the night to fight. Batman has to save him several times, and finally he becomes Robin. Later Nightwing.

Freeze can be done very well, if given a dark story. No "you're icy doom" "chill" "the ice age!!!" lines. No Schwarzenegger. A plain, dark villain who uses technology to his advantage (much like Batman). Have Freeze's weapons more realistic and less showy.

Clayface, imo, isn't much of a possibility. Especially with Sandman in Spider-Man 3. It just seems repetitive to have another comic-book film with a shape shifter made out of earth. Besides. Clayface isn't exactly realistic either... ;)

Neither is Man-Bat, but his EXTREMELY dark plot can quite counter that. Same with Killer Croc (whom I've never really been a huge fan of)... and with Spider-Man 4 coming out with Lizard, Killer Croc will become a bit repetitive.

[jimhorse]

I want this:

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Maybe not for Nolan's trilogy, but someday...but not that belt.

[spideyman101]

I, honestly, doubt that will work ^.

Batman seems to me to be more high-tech than that. Not as high tech as Schumacher's, but yet, high tech. Even B89 was more high tech. I say Batman needs to be more than cloth and a cape.

It may have worked better as his first costume ever used in Batman Begins. And then later upgrade to a more high-tech one... but not this far into the game.

Besides, why would a millionaire choose a costume so... plain?

[Laderlappen]

I want Catwoman in the third. And no cheesey villians. No Robin.

[elgato]

I want Catwoman in the third. And no cheesey villians. No Robin.

GOD TALKING!!!!!! :woot:

[FaT_tONle]

Catwoman in the Scarecrow type role... with about double the screen time... Harvey Dent as the main villain... Penguin in the Falcone type role.

[jimhorse]

I, honestly, doubt that will work ^.

Batman seems to me to be more high-tech than that. Not as high tech as Schumacher's, but yet, high tech. Even B89 was more high tech. I say Batman needs to be more than cloth and a cape.

It may have worked better as his first costume ever used in Batman Begins. And then later upgrade to a more high-tech one... but not this far into the game.

Besides, why would a millionaire choose a costume so... plain?

I understand what you mean about it not looking techy. I just want to see something a little more classic. I like the TDK suit allot but, IMO, it's way to busy and emphasizes the wrong things. It's Batman, But I doesn't wow me. I agree that manip is fairly bland, I mostley liked it for the bodysuit design and the collared cape. The bodysuit kinda looks like its armored underneath. I'm not for an all cloth costume, but with the subtle armor showing through I think it works.

[sclabguy]

i want Nolan to obviously finish his trilogy, cuz he kinda owes heath, himself, and us fans. TwoFace, catwoman in the third film. end the trilogy on a good note - dont kill
2face and resolve how the joker ends up, either dead or in arkham, i prefer he'd be in arkham.

wait maybe 6 to 8 years till we start up the serious batman franchise again - maybe in between WB can do some adaptations on some of the batcomics: arkham asylum/DKR/killing joke/etc...
someone mentioned on the boards a GCPD live action tv show, i thought this would be pretty cool - maybe cameo by bats. it should be dark like a cross between "law and order" "se7en" "silence of the lambs" and "BatmanBegins"

after this period WB should sign on a new director or Nolan(i doubt it) completely recast cuz the sad fact is people age...retire...die. still keep this realism idea but get a director that is fresh as nolan was with an idea/vision for the next trilogy. in this new trilogy it be cool if we saw new villians or redisigned villians like Freeze(much...much darker)
i'd also like to see robin(age 13) in the first of the trilogy and a very well scripted death of his parents by boss zucco NOT 2face.

[SPIDERMAN117]

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[jmc]

A few years after Nolan's series is complete, I'd like to see a vintage Batman film set in the 1930's, using 1930's technology, style and look, made almost in the style of Film Noir to give it that sort of classic movie look. I think something like that would be a breath of fresh air into the character instead of reinventing him again and setting him in the present days as the last two series have done. Something like that would be interesting.

[sclabguy]

^it be interesting - all i really want is not a crappy version of Batman

[Artistsean]

I want to see Harvey Bullock, Montoya, a more complete Bat Cave, Batman build up a rogues gallery situation, Batman the scientist, and I'll add some more later.

[nolan's roll'n]

I want to see Harley Quinn show up somewhere down the line played by either Christina Ricci or Helena Bonham Carter. I agree to those who have said they want Catwoman and Two-Face to make an appearance.

[darkseid26]

i want a coin in the bat cave.

mr. freeze done right, like to see nolans take on him.


the riddler done in a way sort of like the joker just less psycotic. i think it could work.

[Nepenthes]

Catwoman as a theif and not a psycho, with her own henchman
Penguin having meetings by a rooftop pool
Two-Face riding in armoured vintage cars and limousines
Joker breaking out with a doctor he puts in a Harlequins costume
A torture cell and a prison in the bat-cave
An orphan at the circus
END

[CaptainStacy]

Bullock
Harly Quinn
Catwoman
Scarecrow in a full costume
A complete Batcave

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

Scarecrow looking as ragged as he did at the end of Begins. Killer Croc taking the TLH/DV role of Solomon Grundy. Two-Face inciting a war between the freaks and the mob in an attempt to wipe out both factions. Freeze as a hired gun who uses his freezing technology for a quick, clean kill.

[darkseid26]

like your idea of freeze. alligator.

[turtlefocker]

Selina Kyle / Catwoman

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Dick Grayson / Robin - Nightwing actually...

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introduced in the third Nolan Bat-movie.

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[Nepenthes]

The third film should be set in the Wild Wild West or in Ancient Japan or something. Maybe 1800's Gotham, mix it up a little, make it interesting you know.

[Killing Joke926]

I want the third one to be a total mafia war between Two-Face, Sal Maroni/Carmine Falcone/other, and new comming Black Mask. At this period of time I would like to see a complete batcave, possibly Catwoman if all ties in, and just anything else I can't come to think of right now. I'd also like to see a Mr. Freeze story and possibly a Riddler one too. I'll let you all know if I got anything else. :word: :brucebat:

[bulletbillx]

Well, maybe after Nolan's Trilogy someone else can come back (or maybe Nolan can come back) and do a second trilogy. It doesn't have to be flashy. Robin and Freeze were made flashy by Schumacher. They can be done well. No bright red suit. Maybe a very dark red suit for Robin. Maybe even closer to a Nightwing story. Maybe just have Grayson as someone who stays at Wayne Manor and manages to get Bruce to teach him how to fight and he begins to go out in the night to fight. Batman has to save him several times, and finally he becomes Robin. Later Nightwing.

Freeze can be done very well, if given a dark story. No "you're icy doom" "chill" "the ice age!!!" lines. No Schwarzenegger. A plain, dark villain who uses technology to his advantage (much like Batman). Have Freeze's weapons more realistic and less showy.

Clayface, imo, isn't much of a possibility. Especially with Sandman in Spider-Man 3. It just seems repetitive to have another comic-book film with a shape shifter made out of earth. Besides. Clayface isn't exactly realistic either... ;)

Neither is Man-Bat, but his EXTREMELY dark plot can quite counter that. Same with Killer Croc (whom I've never really been a huge fan of)... and with Spider-Man 4 coming out with Lizard, Killer Croc will become a bit repetitive.

Robin's suit could be a really dark red similar to what some ninjas supposedly wore that would blend into the night. Black Cape, and if the domino mask wouldnt work, maybe just a cowl but lacking the ears or something.

He doesnt have to be too showy.

[spideyman101]

You know how Batman Begins typically was washed out with orange color? And how The Dark Knight is shaping up to be washed out in a blueish tint? Since Two-Face will be the main baddy in BM3 then why not have a red washed out look? It'd be risky considering Batman and Robin... and I imagine the reason TDK won't be washed out in green is because of "Forever"...

[missliz]

Why doesnt anyone talk about like Clayface, or Dummy and the Mobpuppet guy or something. Those are some really crazy messed up characters. Clayface would be awesome like a darker and obviously better sandman, the Puppet and the Dummy would be crazy like a chucky meets Saw but still PG-13. I also think there should be Harley Quinn, shes definately a destructive character and someone with Helena Bonham Carter's acting skills would be perfect! I also think they should reference to one of the other justice league characters or robin but not actually have them in full frontal superhero mode, or make it lame like in smallville where he wears the red and blue outfits every episode. I never want to see the Penguin or Catwoman again, because Danny Devito was the best and theres no way anyone can do better than that, also catwoman not exactly great but maybe Selena? as a love interest?

[Man Who Laughed]

I think for the third film, or just a film made down the road, I'd like to see a new pacing. It would have to be set up correctly, but instead of "Batman finds out about villain, has encounter with villain, recuperates in the cave, final battle" I want to see more detective work. Like Batman finds out about the villains plot to start a war between the mob and the freaks. Does some looking into it, realizes Two-Face set the whole thing in motion, but has to fight through what seems like everybody to reach him.

Sort of the whole Knightfall thing, where Bats has to fight until he is wiped out. I wanna see just like a frickin' hour long action sequence. But not typical action adventure with the unnecessary explosions and all that. I mean a Batman action sequence, showcasing his ingenuity, fight skills, and gadgets. Like Shoot 'Em Up without the guns and explosives. Just f***ing bad-a$$ fighting. Epic s***. Something that shows Batmans commitment to justice.

Oh, and I also REALLY liked that idea of seeing a 1930's Batman flick. It'd be even more *****in' if they kept the original costume and name. The Bat-Man.

edit: if we ever DO see Robin, I would love to see an old school Robin mask. Y'know like the Ninja Turtles wore, only without the knot in the back. And a very dark costume. Very dark red, with like a Pine green, and for the yellow cape, well there I'm stumped. But none of this half-cape crap. A full cape, like he wears now. Not that wimpy cape like he used to, or that Captain Marvel wears. I hate that cape.

[Man Who Laughed]

Why doesnt anyone talk about like Clayface, or Dummy and the Mobpuppet guy or something. Those are some really crazy messed up characters. Clayface would be awesome like a darker and obviously better sandman, the Puppet and the Dummy would be crazy like a chucky meets Saw but still PG-13. I also think there should be Harley Quinn, shes definately a destructive character and someone with Helena Bonham Carter's acting skills would be perfect! I also think they should reference to one of the other justice league characters or robin but not actually have them in full frontal superhero mode, or make it lame like in smallville where he wears the red and blue outfits every episode. I never want to see the Penguin or Catwoman again, because Danny Devito was the best and theres no way anyone can do better than that, also catwoman not exactly great but maybe Selena? as a love interest?

Ok, you mean Scarface and The Ventriloquist. Yes, they would be awesome. Especially considering the Ventriloquist and Scarface are two separate entities.

Second, I appreciate your enthusiasm for DeVito, but be a little open-minded here. Someone could do a better job of Penguin. Maybe not as the mutant sewer dwelling freak that Burton made, but as the high class aristocrat of the comics, definitely.

And lastly, Selina Kyle without Catwoman? That's what makes the whole Catwoman/Batman, Bruce/Selina relationship interesting. They have romantic interest in each other as Bruce and Selina, but as Batman and Catwoman, they have the world's most screwed up love/hate relationship. It's just how it works.

[elgato]

The Catwoman. Played by Keri Russell, Eliza Dushku, or Marion Cotillard
Gotham City's shocked by the news, the city's rich side new top criminal is nothing more and nothing less than a woman, who has raised th terror among Gotham City's rich people that has been damaged in many ways by this girl who has taken the theatrical motif as seriously as The Batman, but this time she dresses up like a cat, irradiating a strange sexual magnetism, she atracts soon the attention of the Dark Knight.

[The Navigator]

Cool-looking architecture. Since they're shooting in Chicago, they could use the roof of the Chicago Library--

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Also...a simpler, more efficient-looking batsuit.
And Catwoman. Who steals stuff. And isn't Storm.

[tyler-durden]

A turkey sandwich with mayonaisse, mustard, Lettuce, tomato and american cheese or a hero not a roll

[Lightning54SC]

Dent, Catwomen, Azieral

or

Dent, Catwomen, Ra's and Talia

[TWOF4CE]

Id like to see Bane in the third movie. He seems like a character Nolan would use, since Nolan wants to be grounded in realism (which explains him rejecting Penguin) and you could just make Bane into a body builder on massive amounts of steroids. We have yet to see a villain that actually challenges Batman on the physical level to the point where he has to go to unconventional means to beat the person in a one on one brawl. I like the riddler as well, but I really cant see these 2 having the joker like magnitude that can carry a film. I think if you have Riddler and Bane working together Batman fighting them, and Two Face doing his own thing fighting everyone, it could be pretty interesting.

Honestly if I had my way, I would bring Ras al ghul back. Batman would be focusing on Two Face, and his revenge streak, while at the same time uncovering clues to some new plot thinking that its something Two Face is up to, not knowing all along that Ras Al Ghul has returned with new master plan to destroy Gotham. If Ras does not work out, use his daughter. It seems that TDK story does not really have a large evil master plan, but anarchy in the Joker. I would like to see the traditional story arc come back when the joker is finished with.

As for the title, I think it should reference Harvey's "The dawn is coming" statement in a way but most importantly, it should be catchy and related to Batman.

heres some I have

The Dark Knight Returns
Knights End
Knightfall
Shadow of the Bat

[sclabguy]

Somebody mentioned this before on the boards and I thought it was a really cool idea, so I thought of a way they could do it or pull it off…

A Gotham Central Series – have Gary Oldman star in the first episode to give the series some continuity, and the end of the episode he decides to get away from Gotham for a while on vacation(Ireland or sumthin) he hands his job title to a Michael Akins, who could be the lead role of the series. Akins sometimes has to cope with the presence of Batman and use his information but he will eventually take down the bat signal and enlist Batman as a fugitive. Each episode could explain the background and personality of each character from Renee Montoya to Harvey Bullock. Dr. Kirk Langstrom could help the police during the show and slowly develop his obsession with his new cancer treatment that will eventually turn him into the man-bat.

It could follow the format of the X Files by having a major plot that connects everything together and small individual episodes involving the many rogue villains like; Mad Hatter, Riddler, Bane, Deadshot, Scarface, Solomon Grundy, and all the others who could be adapted into the real world. Bane should be one of the main villains in the superplot. Imprisoned to serve for his father’s sentence he was forced to develop a super-soldier steroid for the Santa Priscian military. He was allowed to live a semi normal life where he meet his wife. His wife gets killed when a rebellion to overthrow the government breaks out. Bane uses his steroid now called venom to escape, which transforms his body only a little compared to the drastic change in the comics.

Also when the GCPD encounter Batman it is always short and to the point, but we never hear or see him. Oliver Queen could be in this also as a new hero, who was close friends with Michael Akins as a child. When he becomes Green Arrow, Akins has a conflict of interest.

If Gary Oldman wants, Gordon could come back during the 3rd season to clean up what Akins has already screwed up. There’d also be a CIA/GCPD rivalry that could go on with the super-plot.

[Nepenthes]

^ Fantastic. It's also a great way to make a Batman tv show on the cheap.

[sclabguy]

it could totally be done and still kick ass

[HUMANIMAL]

if rachel dies....i would like to see catwoman ...for a new love/hate triangle

[tyler-durden]

Agreed, and bad to say this but I hope she dies, don't really like the character for some reason.

[HUMANIMAL]

yeah it aint the best one...but its the old superhero saves his love from the evil guy thing....so for the new there would be a female character wich can help her self but causes trouble for bruce...we could say that aint nothing new also...(for sure nothing new after batman returns)....but nolan could bring the necessary twists in for a more thrilling story...

[Nepenthes]

^ for once it would be great to see the hero abandon the love interest favour of capturing the joker and preventing more deaths or rescuing a larger number of people. and then the woman dies, as a direct result


that said, i'd rather Rachael live through TDK

[CinematicESP]

For the third movie...

-More detective stuff (possibly even the Holiday mystery?)
-Two-Face as the main villain
-Black Mask (My first choice for the next villain. I wanna see major villains we haven't seen on film before. Plus he totally fits in with Nolan's universe)
-Penguin as a minor character, an arms dealer for the major villains
-Catwoman as the new love interest/rival of Batman
-Another new vehicle. (It'll probably end up being a second batmobile, but a plane or boat might be cool)
-Another new batsuit
-I like the idea of a film set in the winter. It'd be perfect for the end of Nolan's trilogy

As for batfilms beyond Nolan's, I think a Dark Knight Returns will probably be made someday. And I wouldn't mind seeing The Long Halloween and Dark Victory adapted faithfully.

[MiniBond]

I want a batplane that could fit in the Nolanverse ! I have no idea for the design though !


After the tumbler, the batpod, it's time for a ride in the air .......

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[Buttman]

Ironically I'd want the exact opposite of people on the front page -- a plain suit. I'd like Nolan to finish up his trilogy, then I'd like someone else to begin a new highly stylised take on Batman with a grey spandex suit with black leather toning, without body armour. A Batman who makes impossibly large leaps and swings on ropes and all manner of implausible things.

I'd like a Batman like YO, who can get shot and gets injured. Some would argue its just nonsense that he would go out without body armour, but I disagree. If we don't use the logic "He's dressed up like a Bat, everything about him is nonseniscal" and instead rely on the fact that body armour is bulky as hell. If he was going to realistically wear a full bulletproof suit, he'd look like a SWAT officer. I wouldn't just want some giant Arnie-esque guy in the suit either, I'd go more with 'The Batman' in the thinner, more athletic build.

I guess I'd go with gangsters once again for the villains, maybe with them hiring some 'freak' to knock off Batman. I'd like to say Mr. Freeze, but after B&R I just don't think we'll ever see him on film again. Maybe the gangster mastermind could be Black Mask, then with some goon for a big showdown at the end like Killer Croc or perhaps even Bane. I wouldn't even consider Bane as the primary antagonist, he's a gimmick 'strong' character, alls he's good for is a really big fight.

I'd look to BTAS for the actual look of the show, with the blood red skies and the vintage buildings, all seeped in Noir.

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[The Batman]

for the Third Film:

*Catwoman, with Selina as the potential love interest
*Penguin in a minor role
*The Riddler
*Two Face as the main villain
*A Batsuit with the design closer to begins/comics with the mobility of tDK

[NiteMare Shape]

A movie that continues to reach the standards that BB set, and TDK looks to eclipse

[dark joker]

An all out villian war in Gotham including penguin, the riddler, joker, two face and black mask and the mob families a fight for total domination.

[tyler-durden]

A batsuit that has actual cloth over the armor, so it looks like his suit from the comics

[TheAQU4M4N]

after Nolan's trilogy, i'd love to see a film adaptation of TDKR but give all of the cast time off maybe 5-7 years..

[That'ssuper!]

I want a Batman-Superma movie to be made with Black Mask and Metallo as villains.

[JayCaz]

I really want to see a 'Dark Knight Returns' style movie, with older actors playing the parts, and I'd like it to be an 18, and stay true to Frank Miller's vision. After first watching 'Begins' I immediately thought to myself wouldn't it be cool to jump straight from the new origin story to the Dark Knight Returns for the next movie, with a completely new cast, to kinda close the franchise. I can see that isn't gonna happen now with the forthcoming release of 'Dark Knight' (which I think is gonna rock anyway), but I would like it to happen one day.

Everthing about 'Returns' has the potential to make an excellent movie, Batman, in his 50's, brutally coming out of retirement, his epic battle with the leader of the Mutants, and his final showdowns with the Joker & Superman, who has now become a WMD/puppet for the government. The potential is limitless in the right hands.

PS. Hi, I'm new!!

[sclabguy]

^ it would be pretty cool, but NO Dark Knight Strikes Again

[Mandalore464]

The thing I'd love to see once Nolan is done with his "could-be-real" version of the mythos is a completely over-the-top, very faithful to the comics adaptation done with real actors but with an over-stylized, comic-book-on-screen feel to it just like 300.

Actually since 300 came out I've always dreamed of a similar take on Batman. I really do think it would work and rock. And you'd have no limit as to what you could film and show with that kind of movie.

I don't really think shooting every single scene of a movie in front of green or blue screens with minimal actual sets is a nice evolution in filmmaking, but I can definitely see that work for Batman.

It would really be a Batman comic book come to life.

[MiniBond]

seeing Wayne in his Wayne enterprises boss activities: big boards, meetings with his employees....that kind of stuff !:cwink: