Captain America:News,Speculation

[Arkady Rossovich]

I think there is a little bit of confusion. There are a few threads,but I don't see any real information or member discussion about the possible movie. Well,one thing for thought is that which version of the Captain would be put into the movie? 616 Cap? Ultimate Cap? A combination? When would it take place? World War II? Modern times?

Let the discussion begin..

[Showtime]

I wonder if they will use multiple versions of Captain America.

[Gotham]

I wonder if they will use multiple versions of Captain America.

That's what I've been wondering. I think they should have a panel at this year's Comic Con. Clear the mystery regarding the film.

[bullets]

They are probably still trying to figure that out. I haven't heard anything regarding him yet.

[Mister Sinister]

Front Page: Zak Penn's writing it.

[Gotham]

Front Page: Zak Penn's writing it.

Just made a thread about his involvement. Probably merged with this one. :yay:

[Bubonic]

Nope, actually it was locked for some reason.

[chiefchirpa]

Heh, I knew it David Self is not quite up to the task, and that perenial replacement Zak Penn is used for the placeholder.

So if your comic film writer is not up to the task, please insert: a) Zak Penn b) David Goyer

[Gotham]

Nope, actually it was locked for some reason.

Yeah. Penn apparently isn't involved. So the idea of it having its own thread isn't needed.

[Bubonic]

Well good, thats a bit of good news for the day... I don't want that hack touching anything Marvel again.
As for Avengers, I'm sure Norton and others will intervene so I'm not too worried.

[MarvelMovies]

http://www.internapse.com/marvel/upcoming/captainamerica/

All the news so far: http://www.internapse.com/marvel/upcoming/captainamerica/news.php?year=all

Latest article:
October 22, 2007
Nick Cassavettes to Direct?
http://www.internapse.com/marvel/news.php?id=827

[Arkady Rossovich]

It looks like there isn't much news out on it. It's a shame,this deserves attention.

[RonStoppablefan]

So this is finally getting made into a movie? First I've heard of this, hope we get more news on this.

[Golgo-13]

I think John Cena would make a decent Captain America.

[Spider-Fan]

HELL TO THE NO!!! JOHN CENA CAN'T ACT!!! DID YOU SEE THE CRAPFEST THAT WAS THE MARINE!!!

Cap needs an actor...a REAL actor.

[Figs]

From what I remember hearing, for the movie they wanted to start it off with him back during WWII, then bring him out to modern times trying to cope and get used to the changes of modern day society.

Not sure if that idea has been changed or not, there really hasn't been any real news on it.

They need to get in gear on this and the Thor and even Ant Man movies.

[Rac]

Yeah. Penn apparently isn't involved. So the idea of it having its own thread isn't needed.
Well that's a relief.

I think John Cena would make a decent Captain America.
:dry:

[Blader5489]

I think John Cena would make a decent Captain America.

You can't be serious.

[Gotham]

Apparently in the Hulk footage shown in New York, the less than subtle reference to Captain America was... great. Some hope that the film is finally being made?

[GNR]

Probably a long ways off.Feige mentioned at IGN that Cap is still looking for a re-write.

We might get Thor next year first.

[Hurm...]

HELL TO THE NO!!! JOHN CENA CAN'T ACT!!! DID YOU SEE THE CRAPFEST THAT WAS THE MARINE!!!

Cap needs an actor...a REAL actor.A FREAKIN MEN! :cmad:

[FaT_tONle]

Probably a long ways off.Feige mentioned at IGN that Cap is still looking for a re-write.

We might get Thor next year first.

Lets hope so... 09 is looking it might just be Wolverine... how lame would that be?

[Blader5489]

Probably a long ways off.Feige mentioned at IGN that Cap is still looking for a re-write.

We might get Thor next year first.

When did he say that?

[GNR]

When did he say that?

Interview @ IGN.

[Arkady Rossovich]

A reference doesn't really mean anything. But it does give hope to people that Marvel is still thinking about the film. I hope that the villain would be the Red Skull,because I had a crazy thought when I was talking with some people about it. It would be such a disappointment to have instead of the Red Skull,there would be some made up villain for the movie..like a common Nazi or such.

[DoctorJones]

I think the Red Skull as the villain is a definite (Hitler being the big bad of course, no need to push RS into the background like the Mandarin). I would like Captain America to be a full-on period piece, with the story of his awakening in the modern day saved for the Avengers. Along with Thor, it'd be unique for fans and audiences to alike to only see him as he was originally intended.

[chiefchirpa]

Either Cap or Thor, I want to hear the announcement of actors and move to production fast after Iron Man.

[CaptainCanada]

I think the Red Skull as the villain is a definite (Hitler being the big bad of course, no need to push RS into the background like the Mandarin). I would like Captain America to be a full-on period piece, with the story of his awakening in the modern day saved for the Avengers. Along with Thor, it'd be unique for fans and audiences to alike to only see him as he was originally intended.
Thor was originally intended to be inhabiting the body of Doctor Donald Blake. With Cap's Marvel stories, it's been about the present too.

Cap's arrival in the present can't be done in Avengers, because it will either be shortchanged or it will shortchange the rest of the cast.

[Spider-Vader]

If Cap is in WWII I would really like John Williams to compose (though I'd like him to compose all Marvel movies) because something like the Nazi theme from IJ&LC would fit well in this.

[Arkady Rossovich]

I've heard some say that if there is a Captain America franchise that they should all take place during World War 2. If there were 3 movies made..I would say the first should take place in WW2,Cap battles the Red Skull,both are frozen in the Atlantic. Second movie finds Hydra looking for Skull 60 years later,Skull is unfrozen. Cap is unfrozen by SHEILD later on,battle again,Skull escapes. Third movie is up for debate depending on how the first and second do.

[Skippy Roberts]

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080505/20080505005656.html?.v=1



Marvel today updated its feature film slate strategy and plans for the next three years, locking in key release windows for its character franchises. In order to focus its attention on maximizing the success of an Iron Man sequel and the launch of Thor in the summer of 2010 and because Marvel believes that the summer is the optimal time to launch a new property, the Company will not release a self produced film in 2009. Marvel plans to launch its 2010 film slate with the release of the sequel, Iron Man 2, on April 30, 2010, followed by the launch of Thor on June 4, 2010. Additionally, Marvel is planting its feature film stakes for summer 2011 with an Avengers-themed summer – a two-picture project which will debut on May 6, 2011 with The First Avenger: Captain America (working title), followed by The Avengers in July 2011.

[spidey-dude]

I think this could mean captain america will be set all during world war 2, and get frozen at the end, with him being revived in the avengers.......

[Skippy Roberts]

Could be but the script they have is for a "man outta time" story. Part WW2--and part now.

[spidey-dude]

oh ok hadnt heard anything bout the script...............are you who i think you r btw???

[chiefchirpa]

Seem to be they're aiming for a period film. Good.

[Skippy Roberts]

oh ok hadnt heard anything bout the script...............are you who i think you r btw???

I doubt you know me. I'm pretty new here. People call me Skippy, The Skipster, Skiparama, Skipalaya, Second Liutenant Skipp of the Second Division.

[The Agent]

I'm having a geek-asm right now!!!

[Mister Sinister]

3 years tomorrow!

[Dotten]

I hope they make it a WW2 movie. Will be easier to sell to the crazy american-haters out there. And let him freeze in the last scene. And then maybe have a clip after the credits with him being found....

But it could be interesting if they split it with him found in the second or third act of the movie, so that they can focus on him dealing with the new world.

[Skippy Roberts]

I like the idea of a WW2 film and then having him unfrozen today dealing with the anti-American sentiment. It makes the film relevent and more sellable to a Worldwide audience. I 2+ hour period piece is a hard sell.

[I am Batman]

I think this could mean captain america will be set all during world war 2, and get frozen at the end, with him being revived in the avengers.......

I actually would love a Captain America film set entirely in WWII. And on the news of the new release dates of the other Marvel movies: :wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

[Blader5489]

Could be but the script they have is for a "man outta time" story. Part WW2--and part now.

That was the story a few years ago, it could have changed by now. When you consider that the movie's title is clear marketing for the Avengers movie, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cap movie was all in WWII.

[Gotham]

Great working title. Can't wait! :up:

[Whiskey Tango]

I think I just OD'ed on pure uncut AWESOME! I can't believe this is really happening.

[Gotham]

I think I just OD'ed on pure uncut AWESOME! I can't believe this is really happening.

Me too! God, this is awesome.

[CaptainStacy]

It's really happening! Awesome!

[anrrd_2]

too....stoked....for...words!!!!

[FaT_tONle]

Took care of the sig... I still can't see how they release Captain AMerica with Avengers in the same year??? I mean there is no way everyone that sees Avengers will have seen Captain America in early May. Not that it should matter b/c both films should be stand alone films. But releasing two films like that in the same year and I can only imagine the budget will be through the roof. I guess Marvel doesn't want to take a chance of letting actors walk.

[Rac]

I hope they drop the "The First Avenger". Stupid.

[Gotham]

I hope they drop the "The First Avenger". Stupid.

It's only a working title, but I love it.

[CaptainStacy]

It's only a working title, but I love it.

Me too.

[CaptainStacy]

It's only a working title, but I love it.

Me too.

[Dotten]

Love the title. Hope Cap's story is set to WWII for most part of the film.

[GL1]

The First Avenger... that pretty much tells me that it's going to be a period piece and that the Avengers will be named for Captain America's first Avenger status. Kinda cool.

Especially when they unfreeze the guy. I'm looking forward to these films...

[SuperBatman]

Heres hoping its Cap vs. Red Skull.

[CaptainStacy]

The First Avenger... that pretty much tells me that it's going to be a period piece and that the Avengers will be named for Captain America's first Avenger status. Kinda cool.

Especially when they unfreeze the guy. I'm looking forward to these films...

Makes sense. Perhaps the super soldier serum is created to make a squad of soldiers to "Avenge" those being killed in Europe and Pearl Harbor by the Axis...An "Avenger Initiative" if you will, with Steve Rogers being the first, and last...until present day, of course.

[anrrd_2]

i could see the cap movie being a period piece leading up to him being frozen. then the avengers flick is IM, thor, antman, wasp, and maybe afew others trying to take down hulk....then in a moment similar to fury in IM, and RDK in hulk, we see (after the credits) a shield boat deep in the arctic, using a crane to lift out a giant block of ice. fury (with stark and others at his back) walks up to the iceblock and wipes away the fog to reveal steve rogers frozen inside.

[MarvelMovies]

Although it's just a working title, the First Avenger title does lead me to believe that the movie will take place fully during the World War II era with Red Skull as the villain.

Thus, he is the "First" Avenger to be alive.

In the Avengers movie, he'll be unfrozen and they'll build the team around him. Sounds like a great storyline to me.

[NoirMan82]

Judging from how marvel is haddling their properties, I think the most faithful, and likely, way to do it is set it in WWII. I'd love to see Cap tearing through Nazi scum. Don't they make great villians? I think they were the fisrt real super-villians the world has ever seen.

[anrrd_2]

Judging from how marvel is haddling their properties, I think the most faithful, and likely, way to do it is set it in WWII. I'd love to see Cap tearing through Nazi scum. Don't they make great villians? I think they were the fisrt real super-villians the world has ever seen.

well there was the egyptians and the romans and many other power hungry "villianous" civilizations before nazi germany...they were simply the first or the "modern media" era....and yes, they are do make wonderful foes.
http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/cap.jpg

[Gotham]

Although it's just a working title, the First Avenger title does lead me to believe that the movie will take place fully during the World War II era with Red Skull as the villain.

Thus, he is the "First" Avenger to be alive.

In the Avengers movie, he'll be unfrozen and they'll build the team around him. Sounds like a great storyline to me.

The only thing now is getting a writer and a director. Both of them who understand the material.

[MarvelMovies]

The only thing now is getting a writer and a director. Both of them who understand the material.

David Self (Road to Perdition) is writing the film.

http://internapse.com/marvel/news.php?id=824
April 28, 2006

http://internapse.com/marvel/news.php?id=823
February 17, 2006

All news so far here: http://internapse.com/marvel/upcoming/captainamerica/news.php?year=all

[anrrd_2]

i think i already know how the captain america film is going to end...and its not good:csad:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2359/2142149354_5e7f04b822_o.jpg

[Tempest19]

Maybe that's why they're released in the same summer. Lol. Captain America being in 'The Avengers' movie will make Captain America getting iced that much easier to take for the audience. "Huh? That's it???"

[anrrd_2]

Maybe that's why they're released in the same summer. Lol. Captain America being in 'The Avengers' movie will make Captain America getting iced that much easier to take for the audience. "Huh? That's it???"

i doubt they will show him being frozen in the cap film....it would probably be some sort of cliffhanger where the audince thinks he is dead or something....then they find him in avengers and it is all set straight in a flashback sequence or monologue or somehting....

[Tempest19]

With it being released the same summer, the audience will know Captain America survives. So it's not really a cliffhanger. Imagine Matrix 2 and 3, but released closer. 2 leads directly into 3 with a preview for three. This seems to be more of a two-part movie couple of months apart, cliff-hanger wouldn't work. Unless they somehow manage to keep Cap completely out of Avengers promotion, the audience will know the conclusion.

[anrrd_2]

perhaps cap's influence in the marketing for avengers will be similar to dent/twoface in darkknight...people know hes there...but thats really ALL they know.

[MarvelMovies]

i think i already know how the captain america film is going to end...and its not good:csad:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2359/2142149354_5e7f04b822_o.jpg

Hahaha!

Somehow, Cap was able to stay alive even with those bears all around him.

[anrrd_2]

if he can survive joe quesada he can survive anything!

[CaptainCanada]

I seriously doubt it's all-WWII, since that hasn't been the plan, and the character's setup in Marvel's history is based around his "man out of time" status, and they've been planning to do both eras at once since the project was first announced; not to mention that he has no supporting cast in World War II. All his cool supporting characters are in the 21st century.

[anrrd_2]

bucky?

[CaptainStacy]

Judging from how marvel is haddling their properties, I think the most faithful, and likely, way to do it is set it in WWII. I'd love to see Cap tearing through Nazi scum. Don't they make great villians? I think they were the fisrt real super-villians the world has ever seen.

Nah, Ancient Rome. :yay:

[Rust]

I doubt you know me. I'm pretty new here. People call me Skippy, The Skipster, Skiparama, Skipalaya, Second Liutenant Skipp of the Second Division.

You're not canadian, are you?

[CaptainCanada]

bucky?
He'd be really hard to translate to film, so I don't expect to see him (he's only really cool as Winter Soldier, anyway).

The 1940s are his origin, and so they need to be included, but a proper Cap film includes the 21st century, because the key aspect to his character is that he's a man out of time; he's much less interesting in World War II than he is in the present.

[CaptainStacy]

He'd be really hard to translate to film, so I don't expect to see him (he's only really cool as Winter Soldier, anyway).

The 1940s are his origin, and so they need to be included, but a proper Cap film includes the 21st century, because the key aspect to his character is that he's a man out of time; he's much less interesting in World War II than he is in the present.

I disagree, and here's why; The "Man out of Time" thing is a great angle, but in order for it to work, we have to FEEL Steve Rogers loss. They have to take the time in a period piece to establish some of his relationships...a girlfriend...Bucky (either 616 or Ultimate)...some of his fellow platoon members...we spend an entire movie getting to know and love these characters, that way, when they are abruptly taken away, it means something to not only Steve Rogers, but the audience as well.

[anrrd_2]

I disagree, and here's why; The "Man out of Time" thing is a great angle, but in order for it to work, we have to FEEL Steve Rogers loss. They have to take the time in a period piece to establish some of his relationships...a girlfriend...Bucky (either 616 or Ultimate)...some of his fellow platoon members...we spend an entire movie getting to know and love these characters, that way, when they are abruptly taken away, it means something to not only Steve Rogers, but the audience as well.

maybe even through in some sgt rock?!?!

[Raiden]

Took care of the sig... I still can't see how they release Captain AMerica with Avengers in the same year??? I mean there is no way everyone that sees Avengers will have seen Captain America in early May. Not that it should matter b/c both films should be stand alone films. But releasing two films like that in the same year and I can only imagine the budget will be through the roof. I guess Marvel doesn't want to take a chance of letting actors walk.

Yeah, as much as I would like to see Captain America and an Avenger movie, having both movies in one summer with a couple of months apart is imo too risky, and might get moviegoers confused about having Cap in two movies when they aren't even familiar with him before his debut. I hope Marvel will come to their senses and pull back on Avengers, and release it in the following year. It's great that we are getting Avengers movie, but I don't want Marvel to bite off more than they can chew.

[NoirMan82]

Nah, Ancient Rome. :yay:

I love the romans, they were nutcases, but look at Nazis.

Wicked Costumes - Check
Demented Meglomaniac for a Leader - Check
Cool Advanced Technology - Check
Supernatural Experimentation - Check
Nefarious Unthinkable Plots - Check
Relentless Media Coverage - Check
Secret Spies - Check

Those ****ers had it all. The Romans were brutal, but they more or less just conquered places and let them go about their lives. Hitler was out to shape the world in his image and completely exterminate entire races. I give the a$$holes of history award to them.

[CaptainStacy]

maybe even through in some sgt rock?!?!

Only if they want to get sued. :yay:

[anrrd_2]

Only if they want to get sued. :yay:

totally worth it!

[Raiden]

I disagree, and here's why; The "Man out of Time" thing is a great angle, but in order for it to work, we have to FEEL Steve Rogers loss. They have to take the time in a period piece to establish some of his relationships...a girlfriend...Bucky (either 616 or Ultimate)...some of his fellow platoon members...we spend an entire movie getting to know and love these characters, that way, when they are abruptly taken away, it means something to not only Steve Rogers, but the audience as well.

That's my feeling also. I don't want Cap to have his entire movie set in WW2; I want him to be brought back, and had to adjust to his new life set in a world that distrusts America, and have to deal with the loss of his best friend and girlfriend. It would create a powerful drama and make audience empathize with Steve Rogers. It wouldn't have make sense for him to deal with this in the Avengers movie.

[aka Kal el]

I like the idea of a WW2 film and then having him unfrozen today dealing with the anti-American sentiment. It makes the film relevent and more sellable to a Worldwide audience. I 2+ hour period piece is a hard sell.:word: I think you make a good point Skip. I also don't think the timing of the release date is no accident. I think Marvel is banking on the new administration being a little more popular overseas than W which would make this an easier sell overall. I'm thinking we will see something akin to how they started IM then flashed back. Since this is a pseudo Ultimates version we may even see the same opening as the Ultimate avengers cartoon which maybe a smarter why to go then what ever is the current politcal landscape. Who knows we might even see the Chitari(skrulls).

[YJ1]

I think this could mean captain america will be set all during world war 2, and get frozen at the end, with him being revived in the avengers.......

That would be the PERFECT way to handle it! I pray it happens that way.

I disagree, and here's why; The "Man out of Time" thing is a great angle, but in order for it to work, we have to FEEL Steve Rogers loss. They have to take the time in a period piece to establish some of his relationships...a girlfriend...Bucky (either 616 or Ultimate)...some of his fellow platoon members...we spend an entire movie getting to know and love these characters, that way, when they are abruptly taken away, it means something to not only Steve Rogers, but the audience as well.

Great post and great point. I couldn't agree more. Placing the entire Cap movie in WW2 is a must. Not only for the emotional and story reasons mentioned but for a money stand point as well. Reminding viewers overseas what America has meant to the world is a good thing.

[aka Kal el]

That's my feeling also. I don't want Cap to have his entire movie set in WW2; I want him to be brought back, and had to adjust to his new life set in a world that distrusts America, and have to deal with the loss of his best friend and girlfriend. It would create a powerful drama and make audience empathize with Steve Rogers. It wouldn't have make sense for him to deal with this in the Avengers movie.:word: I agree Raiden I also like the angle of him losing his Brother in the war and then trying to enlist and being 4f. I don't remember whose arc that was but it would def help the audience relate more to his reasoning.

[smashmode]

Nice, we are finally seeing how the blocks will fall into place :)

[The Guard]

Kind of a clunky title. It would work better reversed.

[anrrd_2]

That would be the PERFECT way to handle it! I pray it happens that way.



Great post and great point. I couldn't agree more. Placing the entire Cap movie in WW2 is a must. Not only for the emotional and story reasons mentioned but for a money stand point as well. Reminding viewers overseas what America has meant to the world is a good thing.

could come of as extremely pretentious....or could be a really good thing. who knows?

[Raiden]

Kind of a clunky title. It would work better reversed.

I agree. I also wish they'd change Wolverine's title to be simply 'Wolverine'.

[Bubonic]

How will they handle the whole thing about steve freezing and being unthawed without it being totally goofy and unrealistic.

I'm sorry but I just can't handle him feeling in water that is so cold in turns him in a big block of ice before he drowns to death, stays frozen for over 50 years, then is found, melted, hasn't suffered irreparable tissue damage and is in fighting form a few days after the fact.

I understand we are meant to suspend disbelief with comic movies, but they got to strive for some form of explanation, reasoning and logic when dealing with these things, to the best of their abilities.

Only way I could see it working is that somehow Rogers is afflicted with something beyond the grasp of science at that point, and that he is cryogenetically frozen, and either they coincidentally figure out how to fix them right about the time that the Avengers need a leader, or yah... I don't know, it'll take some doing I tell ya...

[Compi716]

This is how I think things are going to go:

The Captain America movie comes out right before the Avengers movie. Perhaps, the Captain America film will be a period piece, ending with Cap being frozen. Cliffhanger ending.

The Avengers starts with the finding of Captain America, similar to Ultimates 1 #3. I really think this is how they're doing these films. Call it a "hunch."

;)

[Raiden]

How will they handle the whole thing about steve freezing and being unthawed without it being totally goofy and unrealistic.

I'm sorry but I just can't handle him feeling in water that is so cold in turns him in a big block of ice before he drowns to death, stays frozen for over 50 years, then is found, melted, hasn't suffered irreparable tissue damage and is in fighting form a few days after the fact.

I understand we are meant to suspend disbelief with comic movies, but they got to strive for some form of explanation, reasoning and logic when dealing with these things, to the best of their abilities.

Only way I could see it working is that somehow Rogers is afflicted with something beyond the grasp of science at that point, and that he is cryogenetically frozen, and either they coincidentally figure out how to fix them right about the time that the Avengers need a leader, or yah... I don't know, it'll take some doing I tell ya...

I always assume that Cap's Super Soldier serum is what helped keeping him alive, along with the ice block.

[S.A.A.D]

Is anyone worried,that the Captain America movie will be annoying with the patriotic American stuff??
I can see that as a big criticism,if it is.

[zeptron]

Sweet! It comes out on my birthday.

[anrrd_2]

How will they handle the whole thing about steve freezing and being unthawed without it being totally goofy and unrealistic.

I'm sorry but I just can't handle him feeling in water that is so cold in turns him in a big block of ice before he drowns to death, stays frozen for over 50 years, then is found, melted, hasn't suffered irreparable tissue damage and is in fighting form a few days after the fact.

I understand we are meant to suspend disbelief with comic movies, but they got to strive for some form of explanation, reasoning and logic when dealing with these things, to the best of their abilities.

Only way I could see it working is that somehow Rogers is afflicted with something beyond the grasp of science at that point, and that he is cryogenetically frozen, and either they coincidentally figure out how to fix them right about the time that the Avengers need a leader, or yah... I don't know, it'll take some doing I tell ya...


well the supersoldier serium could have given him greater lung capacity, add to that the circumstances surrounding his freezing. perhaps the nazis were testing chemicals in the water...steve blows up there lab but falls into the water, the chemicals react together. steve is presumably dead, but then we find out in the avengers that he was mearly frozen. i believe "suspended animation" is the proper fraze

[Tempest19]

If it is WWII, what should the tone be: Indiana Jones type adventure meaning it comes off like a serial or a 'Flags of Our Fathers' war-time drama?

[Bubonic]

I'm sure there is a way to make it seem plausible, I can buy that super serum will give longer lung capacity... Can we even insta freeze and thaw someone without them dying nowadays, even under the most perfect of conditions?

Anyways, I suppose the water is cold enough to instantly freeze someone, but hauling out a big stevecicle from the water, I can image that looking ridiculous, of all things, this sequence of events is what worries me most.

I hope his personality is more like the 616 steve even if they use some ultimate elements. I want him to be a smart patriot, not a blind one.

[Tempest19]

Anyways, I suppose the water is cold enough to instantly freeze someone, but hauling out a big stevecicle from the water, I can image that looking ridiculous, of all things, this sequence of events is what worries me most.

Lol. That's a funny image actually how you describe, I believe in MARVEL though. Thinking of Austin Powers.

[anrrd_2]

If it is WWII, what should the tone be: Indiana Jones type adventure meaning it comes off like a serial or a 'Flags of Our Fathers' war-time drama?

alittle bit of both...and through in alittle bit of saving private ryan

[Tempest19]

also don't think Cap could be placed into actual battles because it may be disrespectful to the actual troops. Like putting Cap on D-Day or Battle of the Bulge. I don't know, kind of controversial since many of those soldiers looked to Cap as inspiration to continue fighting. Putting him in there saving the day, may make the battles too light or something. Kind of hard to describe. So if it is WWII, think battles will need to be created with references to actual battles.

[anrrd_2]

i think marvel will work it all out...have faith

[The Guard]

Bucky wouldn't be hard to translate at all. Just make him Cap's friend and assistant, and don't put him in that costume.

[moguy]

Buying the existence of Thor is a much much bigger problem for me than the freezing of Captain America.

I don't know how they can make that work in the same world as RDJ's Iron Man

[Captain Planet!]

I can't wait for this, but the title is kind of dumb. Why not just "Captain America"?

And also... 2011 is the 70th anniversary of Cap's first appearence!
I think this could mean captain america will be set all during world war 2, and get frozen at the end, with him being revived in the avengers.......
I really, really hope so!

[Bubonic]

also don't think Cap could be placed into actual battles because it may be disrespectful to the actual troops. Like putting Cap on D-Day or Battle of the Bulge. I don't know, kind of controversial since many of those soldiers looked to Cap as inspiration to continue fighting. Putting him in there saving the day, may make the battles too light or something. Kind of hard to describe. So if it is WWII, think battles will need to be created with references to actual battles.

Your very right about this, most of the soldiers honoured to have fought these epic battles are dead now, but I can imagine the survivors, and the families possibly viewing it in poor taste to have a pop culture icon wining the battles for them.

But I can image it being done in a way the displays Cap's leadership skills more then anything else, hence why he'll be scouted to be the leader of the Avengers.

So maybe no take an iconic battle, just a generic trench fight, forces of good versus the nazis, and really show that it isn't all Cap making it happen surrounded by incompetent GIs, but instead show how quick on his feet Rogers is at forming the men, and not taking emphasis away from the heroics of the others.

Another thing is, a big part of me really wants Cap to have his original costume, but will it make it into the film? Will they disregard that they are making their top military weapon a big blue target to be sniped at from a mile away?

I'm thinking they had some reasoning for this in the Ultimates but I forget. I just think having a whole cap movie without the semblance of him wearing his flag costume would take away from the movie... I mean people complained about Lundgren not having the skull, this would be a much bigger deal.

[Colossal Spoons]

I cannot wait to see some of the tricks Cap'll pull off with that shield on the big screen :D

[Colossal Spoons]

This is how I think things are going to go:

The Captain America movie comes out right before the Avengers movie. Perhaps, the Captain America film will be a period piece, ending with Cap being frozen. Cliffhanger ending.

The Avengers starts with the finding of Captain America, similar to Ultimates 1 #3. I really think this is how they're doing these films. Call it a "hunch."

;)

Makes a lot of sense :up:

[Tempest19]

Personally just like Iron Man had different costumes, I'd like for Captain America to have that WWII costume seen in Ultimates and then update.

[Colossal Spoons]

I can't wait for Cap to experience the internet for the first time :D

[Tempest19]

He'll surf SHH. :up:

Also was doing some research, since I'll actually try to put together a Captain America screenplay this summer.

I found this page for the 'Red Skull' the I find very interesting and might give others more insight into how Skull thinks. Especially the last three. I might be wrong, but kind of reminds me of Joker's "love" for his battles with Batman. Would really work for part WWII and part modern day:

http://captain-america.us/articles/images/redskull-story.jpg

[Spider-Fan]

I don't like that The First Avenger part of the title (clearly only done to try and widen WW BO appeal). Also somewhat sad I won't see my favorite Avenger (and 2nd favorite superhero only to Spider-Man) until 2011 :csad:

Though I also think Cap's movie being WWII and Avengers him being in modern times is clearly the case, as is Cap being the main character of the Avengers movie.

Now, I WANT DETAILS ON A CAST/CREW :cmad:

[Negrotigre]

I love the romans, they were nutcases, but look at Nazis.

Wicked Costumes - Check
Demented Meglomaniac for a Leader - Check
Cool Advanced Technology - Check
Supernatural Experimentation - Check
Nefarious Unthinkable Plots - Check
Relentless Media Coverage - Check
Secret Spies - Check

Those ****ers had it all. The Romans were brutal, but they more or less just conquered places and let them go about their lives. Hitler was out to shape the world in his image and completely exterminate entire races. I give the a$$holes of history award to them.


LOL!

[CaptainStacy]

Buying the existence of Thor is a much much bigger problem for me than the freezing of Captain America.

I don't know how they can make that work in the same world as RDJ's Iron Man

Are you kidding me? Think of all the "Technology vs Magic" debates the two heroes could have. It'll be classic! :up:

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed CS,

Magic is like technology to those who use it, so while Thor can't fully grasp Stark's technology, he can't grasp Thor's mystic power. It really is a great dynamic.

[Raiden]

Agreed CS,

Magic is like technology to those who use it, so while Thor can't fully grasp Stark's technology, he can't grasp Thor's mystic power. It really is a great dynamic.

I don't think it will be a problem, but they need to cast a competent actor for Thor, otherwise RDJ will act circles around him. If they have a good actor and the right chemistry with RDJ, their scenes together could be as interesting as Stark and Pepper.

[Spider-Fan]

I don't think it will be a problem, but they need to cast a competent actor for Thor, otherwise RDJ will act circles around him. If they have a good actor and the right chemistry with RDJ, their scenes together could be as interesting as Stark and Pepper.

Agreed.

[aka Kal el]

I don't think it will be a problem, but they need to cast a competent actor for Thor, otherwise RDJ will act circles around him. If they have a good actor and the right chemistry with RDJ, their scenes together could be as interesting as Stark and Pepper.
:word:You are so right! RJD Really made this movie! Let's face it would it have done so well with an unknown? I don't think so! The whole cast made this movie! If we didn't have that cast we would not have the same BO! Hopefully IM will start a trend to selecting quality not just flovors of the month!It is so true that you must have someone who can hold thier own with this cast or it's just not going to work! We need Gravitas!!!

[co2]

PSYCHED! Need cap movie now!

[Katsuro]

I think the title would work better the other way around, personally. I can definatley see why they're including "The First Avenger", though. With it so close to the release of the actual Avengers movie, they gotta let people know the connection. It'll draw in people who might not be interested in Cap, but really want an Avengers movie for its other characters. It'll let 'em know they have to see this one before they see The Avengers.

[Ceb-Man]

I cannot wait for Captain America. With Cap and Avengers released months apart I can see a connection and tie- in somewhere.
Also, I am so tired of this " America" and about it being politically correct and not selling oversees because we don't want to offend someone well nonsense. He is Captain America, not Captain Russia, Captain Iran. He is Captain America... deal with it. If our friends or enemies across seas don't like it. I am sorry that is who he is. Cap shouldn't be dumbed down because somebody don't like him. Even though he is just a comic character, don't change him.
Hey, I don't agree with everything the American government does, but who doesn't. I loved the USA and I am not changing for anybody.If our foreign friends or foes don't like it .. tuff! They can burn our flags and put us down, we shouldn't have to coward down because they don't like America! Cap shouldn't be changed either!

[Dotten]

Let Captain America be Captain America.

I'm from Norway and one of the three partys in the government here has in their party-program this: "USA is one of the greatest threats to world peace". How about that? Crazy socialists. The only country they mention. USA bigger threat then Iran? North Korea? China?

Almost as I'm ashamed of being a norwegian. But few take that party serious. Only got 7-8% of the votes.

Don't let politics interfer with art. Cap needs to be what he always has been. EOD :)

[Remy LeBeau X3]

so it does pretty much seem like this movie will end with Cap's freezing to possibly reviving, leading to the Avengers film later in the year. that sounds nice but i hope they keep the movie about Cap and not do all a bunch of S.H.I.E.L.D. tie ins and what not. a few here and there are good. but to me, i don't know if anyone else feels it, having Cap's potential cliff hanger to sequel ensured ending may seem kind of less suspenseful since it will be resumed in about a month or two. by quick judgment, i think Ironman 2 should be released 2011 and Captain America should be in 2010. but that is just my initial idea for now, i know that's obviously not what's going to happen but preference wise that best way i see it. i also thought that they might do a few sequels first before hitting home with the Avengers. because a sequel after that movie (Ironman 3, Captain America 2, Hulk 2/3, Thor 2) may not seem as "big" i don't know.

also i hope they just title the movie Captain America, or Captain America: The First Avenger if they want a subtitle. Otherwise we'll just get a Cap movie where he is tied in with S.H.I.E.L.D. all the time.

[FaT_tONle]

i think Ironman 2 should be released 2011 and Captain America should be in 2010. but that is just my initial idea for now, i know that's obviously not what's going to happen but preference wise that best way i see it. i also thought that they might do a few sequels first before hitting home with the Avengers. because a sequel after that movie (Ironman 3, Captain America 2, Hulk 2/3, Thor 2) may not seem as "big" i don't know.

also i hope they just title the movie Captain America, or Captain America: The First Avenger if they want a subtitle. Otherwise we'll just get a Cap movie where he is tied in with S.H.I.E.L.D. all the time.

I don't get why they just don't flip flop the release dates either... put an end to Thor introduced in IM2... flip flop those damn dates Marvel and it would be a lot better.

[odiin]

I don't get why they just don't flip flop the release dates either... put an end to Thor introduced in IM2... flip flop those damn dates Marvel and it would be a lot better.

Yeah, maybe. Theoretically Captain America should be farther along in development than Iron Man 2 is, but I'm beginning to think that the theory that Captain America will only cover up to Cap being frozen and then being revived in Avengers has some merit, and if they do that it's easy to see why they would want to have those movies in the same year.

[FaT_tONle]

It shouldn't matter though b/c Cap should be a stand alone film no matter what and Avengers shouldn't be any less understood by not having seen Captain America.

[odiin]

It shouldn't matter though b/c Cap should be a stand alone film no matter what and Avengers shouldn't be any less understood by not having seen Captain America.

I agree. I liked the idea of Captain America encompassing both his World War II origins and his modern revival, and I'd like Avengers to be an actual ensemble piece rather than focusing on Captain America in the same way X-Men focused on Wolverine, but if they're planning on spreading Cap's origin throughout the two films then i guess I'm okay with that, even if it's not ideal for me.

[protocida]

I Would love a movie completelly centred on World War II.

The love interest would be Gail Richard, obviously, and whe could get Bucky Barner, Gill Kowalsky and several members of the army.

As villains, Red Skull and Doctor Faustus. Herr Kleiser would have a cameo, where would only be hinted that he's a Alien Invasor.

[Katsuro]

It shouldn't matter though b/c Cap should be a stand alone film no matter what and Avengers shouldn't be any less understood by not having seen Captain America.

I can agree on the first part, but not the second. If the Avengers movie is going to be any good it'll have to rely on the audience having prior knowledge of these characters, which will be built upon in their own films. In order to fully enjoy an Avengers movie you should have to have seen both Iron Man films, The Incredible Hulk, Captain America, and Thor. How else is the audience to know who these characters are?

I mean, this isn't AvP where the characters coming together are mindless killing (or in this case fighting) machines. What'll make a movie like this interesting is to see how these characters interact, and for that to be interesting we'll need to get to know them before hand.

If you make it without having the previous solo movies necessary, then what's the point in using the same cast? Why not just do it like WB wanted to do the Justice League? What's the point of using Robert Downey Jr. if not to build on the character they'll have spent 2 movies developing?

I absolutely LOVE the way Marvel is doing this. They're creating a seamless Marvel movie-verse. You've got Nick Fury and soon Thor showing up with Iron Man, Iron Man and a Cap reference showing up in The Incredible Hulk, and who knows what else. Just like in the comic books, where heroes guest star in the books of other heroes all the time.

[FaT_tONle]

Because Cpt. America isn't a difficult character to understand to begin with. I don't think you give the general audience enough credit here. The movie should pick up with his recovery and re-intergration immediately. I don't need to see Captain America's story to get what is going on with Avengers... anyone can assume how it went down... the two month gap is still way to little time though... at least wait for people to get the DVD at least.

[Memphis Slim]

George Eads.....

http://www.geocities.com/george_eads/ge-fp2.jpg

This is Cap..........Just bleach his hair blonde.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2498716.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0EDD68133B3EE699E08 5A5397277B4DC33Ehttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0247040/

[odiin]

George Eads.....

http://www.geocities.com/george_eads/ge-fp2.jpg

This is Cap..........Just bleach his hair blonde.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2498716.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0EDD68133B3EE699E08 5A5397277B4DC33Ehttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0247040/

Too old. Plus not everyone looks good blonde, and I imagine he would be one of them.

[Katsuro]

Because Cpt. America isn't a difficult character to understand to begin with. I don't think you give the general audience enough credit here. The movie should pick up with his recovery and re-intergration immediately. I don't need to see Captain America's story to get what is going on with Avengers... anyone can assume how it went down... the two month gap is still way to little time though... at least wait for people to get the DVD at least.

I personally feel movies should have well-developed characters. It's why Iron Man was so good. Not becuase it had "NEAT 'SPLOSIONS HURR!" but because Tony Stark was an interesting character who developed over the course of the movie.

In the sequel you can expect Tony to develop even more, and he'll obviously start the sequel where the first one left off. Think about the hints to his alcoholism in the first one. Think about the fact that the sequel will likely go further into him wanting to undo the damage he's done by making these weapons. That's part of his character, and that'll likely extend even further into the Avengers movie.

The same goes for Captain America. His movie will likely be a WWII period piece, with the Avengers being about him being unfrozen. He'll have to deal with the fact that everything he knew and loved is dead, and the world has changed so much. In order to fully empathize with his character, we have to understand what it is he's lost.

I just dont want to waste time in the Avengers movie developing characters up to the point they should already be at. Let's not waste time learning who Captain America is and where he came from when we just saw a whole movie about it. Let's move forward.

Seriously though, how is the concept of needing to see a movie before you see a movie that directly follows it such a foriegn concept to you? Isn't it just logical that in order to fully enjoy a movie that's essentially a sequel, you should see the ones that came before it. And before you complain that it shouldn't be a sequel, it's a movie that takes place in the same world with the same character that's made one after another, that's a sequel. It'd be like demanding that The Dark Knight not require you see Batman Begins beforehand.

[FaT_tONle]

But Captain America shouldn't be viewed as a part one... both films need to be stand alones. You are going to need to develop Cap in Avengers anyway if he is waking up from his coma 60 years later pending on if they choose to bypass that in the solo film. Plus you have to realize not everyone is going to make it an initiative to see Captain America compared to Avengers (that's why they need a big name). It is a cheap marketing ploy by Marvel to mass domestic totals... pushing Avengers back a year will allow the movie to sink in initially with the public.

[Dew k. Mosi]

Bump for the merge

[FaT_tONle]

Merge the Avengers threads...

[Katsuro]

But Captain America shouldn't be viewed as a part one... both films need to be stand alones.

Why? Why do you want them to be standalone? Like I said, why cast the same actors if you want these movies to be standalone? Why not do it Justice League Mortal style and just have them seperate unconnected movies? Why use the same actor if you're not gonna benefit from the attachment the audience has to that actor in that role already?

You are going to need to develop Cap in Avengers anyway if he is waking up from his coma 60 years later pending on if they choose to bypass that in the solo film.

Well of course you'll need to develop him in The Avengers. His development should progress from one film to another. But if he's waking up 60 years later, you'll need to know how he got frozen in the first place. You'll need to know how he became a super soldier, what era he comes from, who he was before he became a soldier, what he's lost since he was frozen, what he stands for, all of that.

Plus you have to realize not everyone is going to make it an initiative to see Captain America compared to Avengers (that's why they need a big name).

That's exactly why the movies title is The First Avenger: Captain America. They want people to know that they'll need to see this before seeing The Avengers. For those people who see trailers for the Avengers and are interested, but might not see Captain America otherwise, this'll get 'em in the theaters. Maybe it's a cheap marketing ploy, but it'll probably work. It'll also make for better movies with better developed characters.

[Handsome Rob]

This is great news. I want to see a live-action Captain America with real ears!

[FaT_tONle]

Why? Why do you want them to be standalone? Like I said, why cast the same actors if you want these movies to be standalone? Why not do it Justice League Mortal style and just have them seperate unconnected movies? Why use the same actor if you're not gonna benefit from the attachment the audience has to that actor in that role already?

Because not everyone will make it their initiative to see Captain America... simple as that. We can agree to disagree... some people may just want to see Avengers and that is all. Not everyone is a fanboy that has to see every connecting film... its absolutely ridiculous if you think EVERYONE who sees Avengers will have seen Thor prior to it as well. And for those people... Avengers should be no less enjoyable to anyone else in terms of their engagement/understanding of the plot. The stories should connect loosely where you just allude to events here and there. But Avengers shouldn't directly play off of something in one of the solo movies as the main plot piece that drives the story.

Well of course you'll need to develop him in The Avengers. His development should progress from one film to another. But if he's waking up 60 years later, you'll need to know how he got frozen in the first place. You'll need to know how he became a super soldier, what era he comes from, who he was before he became a soldier, what he's lost since he was frozen, what he stands for, all of that.


No... I don't need to know how those things went down. General audiences know he was from WW2. All they need to know is how he was trapped and recovered in the first place. All of that can be covered in Avengers. Audiences don't need to know how Captain laid the smack down to Baron Zemo or Red Skull if they choose to ignore that in the theatres. It's Captain America. That's all they need to know. Your understanding of the Avengers story should not depend on events depicted in the solo (unless it's how he was frozen in the first place).


That's exactly why the movies title is The First Avenger: Captain America. They want people to know that they'll need to see this before seeing The Avengers. For those people who see trailers for the Avengers and are interested, but might not see Captain America otherwise, this'll get 'em in the theaters. Maybe it's a cheap marketing ploy, but it'll probably work. It'll also make for better movies with better developed characters.

You answered your own question... its a cheap marketing ploy. Most movie goers will see it I am not denying that... most people will want to know how it went down. My only qualm is... instead of relying on EVERYONE to have to see it in theatres before they come into Avengers... could you at least give them the opportunity to view the thing on DVD? No films done back to back give it a two month gap... its at least a half a year. This is a foolish move by Marvel and they'll end up making less money overall because of it.

[Dotten]

They should hire Obama to write Caps speeches...

I don't know of any actor capable of pulling of Cap. The casting is everything when it comes to him. Where can you find a young Robert Redford?

[Spider-Fan]

I think the only villain of this movie will be The Red Skull. If Zemo is in it, he will be one of his right hand men, but the Skull is going to be THE villain (only or main).

I also wouldn't rule out the possibility of the Red Skull being the villain of the Avengers movie, with other characters like Loki, Mandarin (if in IM2), or an agency like AIM working with the Skull. The Skull has been an Avengers level threat many times in the past (as has Loki). Also, having both Cap and the Skull in the modern world I feel makes the Avengers have more of an emotional impact, as their conflict is more personal and we see the world through the perspective of the past with both good and evil.

[Dangerous]

The Red Skull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Way excited about the Avenger movies being confirmed!

[Rac]

I don't know of any actor capable of pulling of Cap. The casting is everything when it comes to him. Where can you find a young Robert Redford?
Brad Pitt...

They look so much alike.

But you know, I'm not rooting Pitt or anyone else for Cap.

[anrrd_2]

Brad Pitt...

They look so much alike.

But you know, I'm not rooting Pitt or anyone else for Cap.

brad pitt fighting edward norton in the avengers? that would be funny.....

[bunk]

I think it would be interesting if the first Cap movie was completely set in the 40's. He'd be frozen in the end but we'd see him thawed out in the beginning of the Avengers movie. I think you lose something if you don't get to see him in both time periods.

[Compi716]

George Eads.....

http://www.geocities.com/george_eads/ge-fp2.jpg

This is Cap..........Just bleach his hair blonde.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2498716.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0EDD68133B3EE699E08 5A5397277B4DC33Ehttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0247040/
See, now THAT is what I'm talking about! Good choice!

[anrrd_2]

george eads huh? that is an interesting choice....he doesnt really have any credits that impress me, but at the same time nothing to make me say "oh my gosh! he was in that trainwreck?!?"....heh, he was captain atom in the justice league cartoon1

[odiin]

He's also in his 40s...

[anrrd_2]

so is RDJ, though i can see the difference. i dont think age is too much a factor...but at somepoint you have to say "ok, this guy is a freakin senior citizen for crying out loud""

[odiin]

so is RDJ, though i can see the difference. i dont think age is too much a factor...but at somepoint you have to say "ok, this guy is a freakin senior citizen for crying out loud""

Age matters for Captain America. For Iron Man it didn't: He could have been a young businessman in his 20s and it would have still worked, but for Captain America age is important. I already broke it down in another thread but here it is again.

Steve Rogers was a young man who wanted to join the army to fight for his country in World War II but was way too scrawny and so he was enlisted in the super soldier program and became Captain America. Now, for Steve to have been of draft age he would have had to have been between the ages of 18-25. Captain Americas debut and the U.S.'s involvement in WWII occurred in 1941, so Steve would have to be within that range at the time, now he fought until the end of WWII in 1945 four years later before he ended up getting frozen. This would put him at 22-29 at the time of being froze, and, by extension, at the time of being revived. 40 is WAY too old.

[smashmode]

http://cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Captain-America-May-Be-Matthew-McConaughey-8737.html


ARGH.

[odiin]

I've decided that I am endorsing Daredevil's little brother for Captain America.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/CASEy_biggie.jpg

32 year old academy award nominated actor with classic movie star good looks. It's perfect.

[odiin]

Crap, disregard this.

[chiefchirpa]

^ Haha, that's fine. McConaughey for Cap! It'll take people by surprise, women and kids love it.

[tamron]

George Eads.....

http://www.geocities.com/george_eads/ge-fp2.jpg

This is Cap..........Just bleach his hair blonde.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2498716.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0EDD68133B3EE699E08 5A5397277B4DC33Ehttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0247040/

I've always thought he'd make a good Captain Marvel (DC).

[cosmicherosa]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080506j.php

McConaughey Is "Captain America"?

By Garth FranklinTuesday, May 6th 2008 7:47am

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/mcconca.jpg

Matthew McConaughey is rumored to be the front runner for Marvel's early 2011 superhero project "The First Avenger: Captain America" reports Cinema Blend.

The character's real name is Steve Rogers, a sickly young man who was enhanced to the peak of human perfection by an experimental serum in order to aid the United States war effort during the Second World War.

The character remains one of the few of Marvel's most popular characters yet to have been turned into a feature film. In many ways it still faces much difficulty due to the nature of the uber-patriotic character in a modern world which has become more critical of American imperialism than before.

THe solution seems to be repositioning the character and placing the emphasis on his role as the leader of 'The Avengers'. The character will team up with Iron Man, Hulk and Thor in that film opening a few weeks later in July 2011.

[odiin]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080506j.php

Posted a million times before, and it's just a rumour we see this kind of thing with every single Superhero role time and time again

[FaT_tONle]

Is this serious? I mean the article is pretty recent so how is it old? I mean its not suprising the dude may have been rumored for a while but still?

[The_Vision]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080506j.php

This better not be true :cmad:

[Captain Planet!]

I've decided that I am endorsing Daredevil's little brother for Captain America.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/CASEy_biggie.jpg

32 year old academy award nominated actor with classic movie star good looks. It's perfect.
Ehh.... I don't know if he would look too good blonde, and (I know I'm nit-picking here) he's only 5'9.

[odiin]

Ehh.... I don't know if he would look too good blonde, and (I know I'm nit-picking here) he's only 5'9.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=14740785&postcount=1228

Actually here: http://www.caseyaffleck.com/casey181.html Ignore the fact that he looks like Aaron Carter's twin or something. That was probably taken years ago.

[cosmicherosa]

I've decided that I am endorsing Daredevil's little brother for Captain America.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/CASEy_biggie.jpg

32 year old academy award nominated actor with classic movie star good looks. It's perfect.

He will be absoultely horrible as Cap. Two feet tall and scrawny.

Bucky? Yes please!

[Nirvana]

So far the title is crappy, but I am very much looking forward to this. It's about time they did a Captain America movie.

[GhostPoet]

I think the hardest part of this whole movie will be the look of the character. His costume is so colorful...it'd be hard to transition it from comic to film.

[odiin]

I think the hardest part of this whole movie will be the look of the character. His costume is so colorful...it'd be hard to transition it from comic to film.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/CaptainAmerica01.jpg

And so what if it's colorful? It's iconic. It's just like Spider-Man or Superman. how do you do it? By just doing it straight and not worrying about trying to make it look "hip."

[GhostPoet]

Spidey is different...he doesn't look like he has a magical rainbow around his waist. :)

[odiin]

Doesn't matter, with something like Captain America you either do it right or don't bother doing it at all. That said, making a costume look "realistic" has more to do with the the material they're using for it than it does the design itself.

[Spider-Fan]

I am really not that worried with the costume. I assume it will end up being something closer to the look in the Ultimates (no wings on the head, etc).

[aka Kal el]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/CaptainAmerica01.jpg

And so what if it's colorful? It's iconic. It's just like Spider-Man or Superman. how do you do it? By just doing it straight and not worrying about trying to make it look "hip.":word:I think this is close to what we will get but what is up with that back? He looks like he should be swinging from a belltower! I like the game version better it's a little more realistic.

[Dotten]

As long as they don't give him plastic ears....

[Chris B]

I could accept McConaughey.

[GNR]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/CaptainAmerica01.jpg

And so what if it's colorful? It's iconic. It's just like Spider-Man or Superman. how do you do it? By just doing it straight and not worrying about trying to make it look "hip."

the ultimate cap design by bryan hitch is the way to go

[cerealkiller182]

the ultimate cap design by bryan hitch is the way to go

I'd add the wings though if just to test how it would look.


I see a lot of posts where actors are being disregarded for not having blonde hair. Is blonde hair essential. I mean all things the same, a blonde should win over someone without blonde hair. But if a nonblonde is really suited for the role shouldnt they get it.

[odiin]

I'd add the wings though if just to test how it would look.


I see a lot of posts where actors are being disregarded for not having blonde hair. Is blonde hair essential. I mean all things the same, a blonde should win over someone without blonde hair. But if a nonblonde is really suited for the role shouldnt they get it.

Not only that but there's a miraculous invention called bleach that could be used anyway.

[cerealkiller182]

Not only that but there's a miraculous invention called bleach that could be used anyway.

But if it looks stupid it'd be worth skipping

[odiin]

Absolutely true.

[Colossal Spoons]

I could accept McConaughey.

That damn accent though

[cerealkiller182]

McConaughey as Captain America reminds me of Wahlberg as a teacher in The Happening. Both can be very enjoyable actors but some roles just arnt for them.

[louiebling$]

I say the kid who playd brad in home improvement..... he's got the look

[odiin]

I say the kid who playd brad in home improvement..... he's got the look

:dry:.

This is up there with the suggestion of Triple H as Thor.

[cerealkiller182]

It wouldnt be such a bad idea if there was more to go on than Home Improvement

[Raiden]

the ultimate cap design by bryan hitch is the way to go

Absolutely.

[Downhere]

I could accept McConaughey.

Ditto, seems like an inspired choice.

[Colossal Spoons]

:dry:.

This is up there with the suggestion of Triple H as Thor.

No way, the latter is good :o

[bunk]

As long they don't use this shiny suit they have now.

[Colossal Spoons]

No love for Bucky's costume? :(

[Dangerous]

:dry:.

This is up there with the suggestion of Triple H as Thor.

Just going on aesthetics, you could do a lot worse than HHH as Thor.

Let's face it whoever it- whoever plays Thor is going to have to be a brute, with a hulking weight lifter physique.
CGI definitely won't cut it.

[odiin]

Just going on aesthetics, you could do a lot worse than HHH as Thor.

Let's face it whoever it- whoever plays Thor is going to have to be a brute, with a hulking weight lifter physique.
CGI definitely won't cut it.

No, I don't have to face it because I doubt that will be the case.

[cerealkiller182]

I dont see why Thor has to be weight lifter big. He shouldnt be scrawny but you could get by with a slightly bigger than average guy and chalk super strength up to god power

[odiin]

Seriously.

[Dangerous]

That would SUCK.

Thor needs to look like a Jack Kirby drawing or it ain't Thor.

In the Ultimates he is still a huge brute.

[odiin]

This blows my mind, and not in a good way.

[cerealkiller182]

People that big tend to notbe able to act. They get by by being big. That gimmick worked inthe 80s. It wont work now. If a big guy can act then Im all for it, but acting talent over complete resemblance anyday

[Dangerous]

Thing is with Thor, his huge physique is an integral part of virtual manifestation.
He is after all- a god.

[odiin]

I've got to tell you, I'm lookest at the latest issue of Thor right now and.... He isn't THAT huge. When you take into account that all super heroes are exaggeratedly muscular anyway, just getting a great actor with a decent frame and then having him bulk up is MORE than enough. People are seriously exaggerating over Thor's physic and making it a bigger deal than it needs to be.

[cerealkiller182]

You end up with a Brandon Routh situation. Guy looks so much like the character but is completely devoid of any talent

[odiin]

Eh, I can't get behind you on that. I <3 Brandon Routh.

[cerealkiller182]

I'd give him a section chance but he didnt even doanything in Superman Returns. He just kinda stood there and punched stuffed and picked heavy stuff up.

[bunk]

Thor is always portrayed as taller than most characters (so over 6'2") and a pretty thick dude. He doesn't need to be real cut though, just imposing.

[Dotten]

I'd give him a section chance but he didnt even doanything in Superman Returns. He just kinda stood there and punched stuffed and picked heavy stuff up.

I would remember it if he punched something. Even if it was punching thin air....

He was a man with a lifting complex.

But Routh was good as Superman. Not Reeve, but he did a good job. Play it with a little music, and he looks kinda great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLO8JiZNRSM

[cerealkiller182]

I would remember it if he punched something. Even if it was punching thin air....

He was a man with a lifting complex.

But Routh was good as Superman. Not Reeve, but he did a good job. Play it with a little music, and he looks kinda great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLO8JiZNRSM

I think you might be right. I only meant to imply that he only performed superpowered stuff

[Spider-Fan]

Thor is always portrayed as taller than most characters (so over 6'2") and a pretty thick dude. He doesn't need to be real cut though, just imposing.

Agreed. If the next tallest actor is 6"1 for example, I feel Thor should be 6"4, which can be achieved by getting a tall person, or making someone about as tall taller via physique & boots.

[Compi716]

I'd add the wings though if just to test how it would look.


I see a lot of posts where actors are being disregarded for not having blonde hair. Is blonde hair essential. I mean all things the same, a blonde should win over someone without blonde hair. But if a nonblonde is really suited for the role shouldnt they get it.
Well, if there is an actor out there who is PERFECT for Cap, than they could just dies his hair blonde. So it's really a non-issue for me.

McConaughey is a NO for me. He has the look down perfectly, but that permanent Southern drawl is a big negative. Captain America is from NEW YORK. He's supposed to have a classic, non-region based accent.

So I say no to McConaughey.

[BETArayBill]

cole hauser could be cap hes not that old has the right look http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0369513/

[Arkady Rossovich]

This settles it. The first film must be set in World War 2.

[The Last Meatbag]

Didn't Brad Pitt have a strong interest in playing Captain America?


Him or Matt Damon would kick ass :o

[BETArayBill]

brad pitt would be almost 50 by the time it gets made though

[Compi716]

This is how it should (and will, I believe) go:
The film begins in 1940, with skinny Steve Rogers, his girl Gail whatever, and Steve's buddy (and bully protector) Bucky Barnes. Steve's a young guy and wants to enlist in the army, but due to his frailty they don't exactly want him (Bucky, however, has been recruited. Enter some jealousy). So...
Super soldier serum, guy who makes it is killed by Nazi spy, formula dies with its creator. Classic origin.
Steve is the only super soldier. Rather than being a normal G.I., he's chosen to be America's new weapon, CAPTAIN AMERICA (Ultimates WWII costume and all). Classic story.
The film pretty much follows the beat of a WWII film, with Cap joining up with Bucky's platoon. They fight Nazis and stuff. Meanwhile, Red Skull is doing some crap (he's obviously be the main villain). Classic.
Climax is the opening scene from The Ultimates 1 (with Red Skull thrown in there), right down to the bomb. It goes off, he's frozen. Memorial services back home. Gail and Bucky cry, and Bucky comforts Gail. Fade out.

Present Day flashes on the screen.
Nick Fury and his team are doing some research for what could be Atlantis in the Antarctic. BAM - they find a frozen captain America. They bring him back, unfreeze him, etc. He freaks out, busts out (or maybe doesn't. Whatever works best). Eventually they calm him down, tell him what's up.
FINAL SCENE:
Press conference. The President (or Sec. of State) is talking about bringing back a great piece of American nostalgia, one they thought they lost. He says some more stuff, then, "Ladies and gentleman, I give you...CAPTAIN AMERICA!" Cap steps out from the behind the speaker (through a door or something) and stands, smiling. He's wearing the CLASSIC suit, or some modern variation of it (like that action figure). Film ends with him looking at the American flag, realizing he must continue to keep the dream alive.

AFTER CREDITS:
Nick Fury meets up with Cap, telling him he needs his leadership expertise to lead a team of superheroes: The Avengers.

How do you guys like that? I just did it right now pretty quickly, so cut me some slack.

Oh, and I'm a Marvel shareholder (and have been since 2001), so they listen to my opinions.
:grin::rolleyes:

[The Last Meatbag]

brad pitt would be almost 50 by the time it gets made though

Robert Downey Jr. is in his mid forties :huh:

I think Cap and Tony are around the same age..and Ed Norton is probably in his early 40's

Plus, Pitt looks like he's only in his mid to late 30's

[odiin]

No, Tony Stark can be any age, but Captain America has a certain range he has to stick to, and 50 is far from it, also Norton is almost 40.

[The Last Meatbag]

I meant early forties whoops-o

Captain America's age doesn't really matter to me as long as he doesn't look too old. If Nicolas Cage is allowed to play Ghost Rider then Brad Pitt should be able to play Captain :cmad:

He just popped into my head because I remember him voicing specific interest in wanting to play Captain America if a movie was ever made. I actually prefer Damon...


Funny thing is, a couple years back I made a Captain America movie manip..and had Ledger as Captain America :o

[BETArayBill]

Robert Downey Jr. is in his mid forties :huh:

I think Cap and Tony are around the same age..and Ed Norton is probably in his early 40's

Plus, Pitt looks like he's only in his mid to late 30's

ya but u have 2 think ahead there not going to film the movie to prob. 2010 and pitt's going to be 47 or 48 then way to old for cap

[odiin]

I meant early forties whoops-o

Captain America's age doesn't really matter to me as long as he doesn't look too old. If Nicolas Cage is allowed to play Ghost Rider then Brad Pitt should be able to play Captain :cmad:

He just popped into my head because I remember him voicing specific interest in wanting to play Captain America if a movie was ever made. I actually prefer Damon...


Funny thing is, a couple years back I made a Captain America movie manip..and had Ledger as Captain America :o

I've said this several times before just today but Cap DOES have a certain age range to adhere to, that he would have to have been 18-25 by the time he joined the army, and 22-29 by the the war's end and the time he was frozen.

[The Last Meatbag]

I'm just saying it personally wouldn't bother me.

[chiefchirpa]

Check on McConaughey and RDJ in Tropic Thunder.

As for people playing the age card, let me you it doesn't matter if the guy is 40 or 50 or 60, but if he still looks like a late 20 guy he gets the role. Age is just a number, appearance is a better barometer.

[odiin]

That's true, but most of these guys people are suggesting don't look like they're in their late 20s - early 30s either, except for maybe Matt Damon and that's why I'm endorsing him for presi.... I mean for Captain America.

[chiefchirpa]

Yeah Matt Damon looks younger than his age. So does Matthew Fox and McConaughey.

[GNR]

You end up with a Brandon Routh situation. Guy looks so much like the character but is completely devoid of any talent

preach it brother

[irapogi]

I don't think it will be a problem, but they need to cast a competent actor for Thor, otherwise RDJ will act circles around him. If they have a good actor and the right chemistry with RDJ, their scenes together could be as interesting as Stark and Pepper.

meaning
...

NO TRIPLE H!!!!! :whatever:
i can't believe people still suggest his name.
i've come to think that they're just trolling.

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, so Triple H for Thor then?

:rolleyes:

[Spider-Fan]

How it should go down is Captain America falls into the water, we see his funeral, then we see him frozen.

After the credits, we see him someone with camera equipment investigating the area, and they find Captain America. Could be a SHIELD investigation (like someone posted a few posts up).

[Dangerous]

I think the film should end classic cliff hanger- with Captain America as an ice cube.

Then as the legend goes- he does not get found until during the Avengers film by the super team. That's the way to do it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38209000/jpg/_38209813_punch_judy300.jpg

[Thot]

I'm with those who want to see a classic Cap storyline. The really powerful stuff would involve his deep struggle to define himself after waking in the 2000's after being a WWII hero. At first, the public would react with curiosity and then indifference until a looming threat appears that only Captain America can save the world/country from. The end of the movie could involve his joining the Avengers.

[Dangerous]

Nah the film should end with him getting frozen.

Then in The Avengers film they discover him.

[cerealkiller182]

They should discover him after the credits Sam Jackson style

[aka Kal el]

Thor is always portrayed as taller than most characters (so over 6'2") and a pretty thick dude. He doesn't need to be real cut though, just imposing.

Ok,if were talking wrestlers what about Kevin Nash? He surprised me in the longest yard remake. :word:

[Raiden]

Nah the film should end with him getting frozen.

Then in The Avengers film they discover him.

I still think Steve Roger's story of adjustment should be resolved in his own movie, not the Avengers movie.

[cerealkiller182]

His solo should be exclusively in WWII. It would make much more sense for his time period adjustment to be done in Avengers because it will add to team dynamic since for 1) leading the team will be harder than normal for him at first and 2)Iron Man represents the present time period very well and allows for a power struggle between the two.

[aka Kal el]

cole hauser could be cap hes not that old has the right look http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0369513/
Interesting choice! I have to research him a little before I'm sold though. Could work! I see he has already played a soldier in WWII along side Howard no less. Interesting...What about Scott Speedman?:word:

[Spider-Fan]

His solo should be exclusively in WWII. It would make much more sense for his time period adjustment to be done in Avengers because it will add to team dynamic since for 1) leading the team will be harder than normal for him at first and 2)Iron Man represents the present time period very well and allows for a power struggle between the two.

Stark should definately not listen to Cap at some point in the movie and question his leadership. Though hopefully the right guy wins this power struggle (unlike Civil War).

[aka Kal el]

This is how it should (and will, I believe) go:
The film begins in 1940, with skinny Steve Rogers, his girl Gail whatever, and Steve's buddy (and bully protector) Bucky Barnes. Steve's a young guy and wants to enlist in the army, but due to his frailty they don't exactly want him (Bucky, however, has been recruited. Enter some jealousy). So...
Super soldier serum, guy who makes it is killed by Nazi spy, formula dies with its creator. Classic origin.
Steve is the only super soldier. Rather than being a normal G.I., he's chosen to be America's new weapon, CAPTAIN AMERICA (Ultimates WWII costume and all). Classic story.
The film pretty much follows the beat of a WWII film, with Cap joining up with Bucky's platoon. They fight Nazis and stuff. Meanwhile, Red Skull is doing some crap (he's obviously be the main villain). Classic.
Climax is the opening scene from The Ultimates 1 (with Red Skull thrown in there), right down to the bomb. It goes off, he's frozen. Memorial services back home. Gail and Bucky cry, and Bucky comforts Gail. Fade out.

Present Day flashes on the screen.
Nick Fury and his team are doing some research for what could be Atlantis in the Antarctic. BAM - they find a frozen captain America. They bring him back, unfreeze him, etc. He freaks out, busts out (or maybe doesn't. Whatever works best). Eventually they calm him down, tell him what's up.
FINAL SCENE:
Press conference. The President (or Sec. of State) is talking about bringing back a great piece of American nostalgia, one they thought they lost. He says some more stuff, then, "Ladies and gentleman, I give you...CAPTAIN AMERICA!" Cap steps out from the behind the speaker (through a door or something) and stands, smiling. He's wearing the CLASSIC suit, or some modern variation of it (like that action figure). Film ends with him looking at the American flag, realizing he must continue to keep the dream alive.

AFTER CREDITS:
Nick Fury meets up with Cap, telling him he needs his leadership expertise to lead a team of superheroes: The Avengers.

How do you guys like that? I just did it right now pretty quickly, so cut me some slack.

Oh, and I'm a Marvel shareholder (and have been since 2001), so they listen to my opinions.
:grin::rolleyes:Not Bad! I like how you made reference to Atlantis.Though i think I would lose the 1st supersoldier being killed. I would just make it clear that he is the only subject to survive. If you ever have a chance pick up Mini series they made a couple of years ago that was actually structured as Captain America movie. It really had a lot of good things to swipe. I still like the angle of older brother dying and his frustration at not being able to enlist. I said it before there must be more than just blind patriotism driving him. It will make him seem less of a zealot overseas.

[aka Kal el]

Not Bad! I like how you made reference to Atlantis.Though i think I would lose the 1st supersoldier being killed. I would just make it clear that he is the only subject to survive. If you ever have a chance pick up Mini series they made a couple of years ago that was actually structured as Captain America movie. It really had a lot of good things to swipe. I still like the angle of older brother dying and his frustration at not being able to enlist. I said it before there must be more than just blind patriotism driving him. It will make him seem less of a zealot overseas.***THIS IS THE MINI SERIES I WAS TALKING ABOUT The Adventures of Captain America Sentinel of Liberty: First Flight of the Eagle Book 1
it was designed and looks like a comicbook adaption of a Cap movie. I highly recommend it!!

[aka Kal el]

Stark should definately not listen to Cap at some point in the movie and question his leadership. Though hopefully the right guy wins this power struggle (unlike Civil War).

I could definitely see that especially if they cast young! Because you know in the back of his mind Stark is thinking who is this young punk trying to tell me what to do? Is he really who he appears to be? Thats why I don't think we want to caste too young! 25-30 would be better. but could make for a interesting dynamic!:word:

[rogue trooper]

Don't know if you already know, but Comic Book Resources reported that Matthew McConaughey is among the leading candidates to play Cap.

[GhostPoet]

WWII Cap should be before the beginning credits. Frozen cap should occur during the credits...and dethawing him should occur towards the beginning of the film...giving the rest of the film the chance to help him develop as a character, struggling with adjustment and learning how to be a leader.

[YJ1]

***THIS IS THE MINI SERIES I WAS TALKING ABOUT The Adventures of Captain America Sentinel of Liberty: First Flight of the Eagle Book 1
it was designed and looks like a comicbook adaption of a Cap movie. I highly recommend it!!

The minute I read that years ago, I thought it would make the PERFECT live action movie! I agree 100% and hope the script writers follow or at least read this mini-series.

http://images.comiccollectorlive.com/B3D6F3D6-B060-4D83-AF7C-563532554933/452D64AA-9EF1-4B22-B52A-F754F0548795/3B910F7A-FD0E-4AC2-88EF-0866DC258000.jpg

Don't know if you already know, but Comic Book Resources reported that Matthew McConaughey is among the leading candidates to play Cap.

Well, McConaughey is better then some of the suggestions I've heard but he won't exactly be at the top of my list either.

[YJ1]

Oh, and I'm a Marvel shareholder (and have been since 2001), so they listen to my opinions.
:grin::rolleyes:

I'm also a Marvel shareholder since 2001. (It's been a fun and prosperous ride hasn't it!) As co-owners of Marvel, we need to get on the same page. I like your story summary but I feel the ENTIRE Cap movie needs to take place in the WWII era. Bringing him to the future without thoroughly establishing him in that era would make the character much too shallow. One thing to take away from the Iron Man film is that character development should be king. Play the "man out of time" angle a few months later in Avengers. There's too much to establish, it's too hard to do both in a two hour movie. Trying to do both will just lead to the story shortcuts that hurt movies like Spider-Man 3. With Avengers lined up a few months later, there's no need to jam it all in to one film. Let classic Cap and his origin breath. Besides, if they don't focus on Cap in Avengers, it'll be a 300 million dollar budget. As co-owners, we need to keep it somewhat cost effective. :cwink:

[GhostPoet]

I'm also a Marvel shareholder since 2001. (It's been a fun and prosperous ride hasn't it!) As co-owners of Marvel, we need to get on the same page. I like your story summary but I feel the ENTIRE Cap movie needs to take place in the WWII era. Bringing him to the future without thoroughly establishing him in that era would make the character much too shallow. One thing to take away from the Iron Man film is that character development should be king. Play the "man out of time" angle a few months later in Avengers. There's too much to establish, it's too hard to do both in a two hour movie. Trying to do both will just lead to the story shortcuts that hurt movies like Spider-Man 3. With Avengers lined up a few months later, there's no need to jam it all in to one film. Let classic Cap and his origin breath. Besides, if they don't focus on Cap in Avengers, it'll be a 300 million dollar budget. As co-owners, we need to keep it somewhat cost effective. :cwink:

Hm...I think it'd be a bad idea to keep the entire film in the WWII era. To the general audience the movie will be geared towards, it wouldn't really strike the right kind of appeal.

[BlackLantern]

Hm...I think it'd be a bad idea to keep the entire film in the WWII era. To the general audience the movie will be geared towards, it wouldn't really strike the right kind of appeal.

Agreed...maybe have the first quarter of the film in WW2...anything more than that and you risk losing the audience....I liked the concept of having 'neo-Nazis' because you see how Cap sacrificed so much to stop these guys and yet 60 years later 'Nazis' and their ideals still exist...

[YJ1]

Hm...I think it'd be a bad idea to keep the entire film in the WWII era. To the general audience the movie will be geared towards, it wouldn't really strike the right kind of appeal.

If done right, it would play like Raiders of the Lost Ark meets Saving Private Ryan meets Spider-Man. I think that has broad appeal. Plus, you have to think of the overseas market. They may dislike America today but WWII America is a different story. A Cap movie could serve to remind the world exactly why they fell in love with America in the first place. I AM thinking of general audiences.

[BlackLantern]

If done right, it would play like Raiders of the Lost Ark meets Saving Private Ryan meets Spider-Man. I think that has broad appeal. Plus, you have to think of the overseas market. They may dislike America today but WWII America is a different story. A Cap movie could serve to remind the world exactly why they fell in love with America in the first place. I AM thinking of general audiences.

Period pieces with wide appeal are few and far between....most people are familiar with the modern era Cap, not the WW2 Cap...familiarity with the character is what gets people in the door

[aka Kal el]

The minute I read that years ago, I thought it would make the PERFECT live action movie! I agree 100% and hope the script writers follow or at least read this mini-series.

http://images.comiccollectorlive.com/B3D6F3D6-B060-4D83-AF7C-563532554933/452D64AA-9EF1-4B22-B52A-F754F0548795/3B910F7A-FD0E-4AC2-88EF-0866DC258000.jpg



Well, McConaughey is better then some of the suggestions I've heard but he won't exactly be at the top of my list either. This is for those of you who don't think McConaughy can pull it off I submit the following clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4JujLvozNA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4JujLvozNA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7f-BgDgpmE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7f-BgDgpmE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjNpmEOwnXs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjNpmEOwnXs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpJOgXhBLaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpJOgXhBLaA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXyW3HB62KU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXyW3HB62KU)

The trailer for u571 were he falls in the ice cold water gave me chills and would make a great clip for a fan film. I just want people to realize that he has been more than a surfer dude. Reign of Fire clip-he looks exactly like Ross Captain America san beard. Just tell me some of those clips do not scream Ultimate Cap?.....Enjoy:word:

[BlackLantern]

I think Jensen Ackles would be a good fit....he's certainly young enough and has the whole square jaw thing going...got the build too...just needs good sized boots

[flickchick85]

I've seen both U-571 and Reign of Fire, and Matthew M. just never seemed right for Cap to me. Plus, I don't think he's a very good actor (I never bought him as a leader in either of those flicks). The big killer for me, though, is the voice/accent. He just doesn't have any of the qualities that I would want in Captain America, but to each his/her own. :)

Jensen Ackles wouldn't be my 1st choice, but he might work.

[Spider-Fan]

Jensen Ackles is another horrible choice...even worse than Matthew M :o

Jensen Ackles was horrible on Smallville, and if he isn't a phenominal TV actor, he can;t be Cap. Period.

[BlackLantern]

Jensen Ackles is another horrible choice...even worse than Matthew M :o

Jensen Ackles was horrible on Smallville, and if he isn't a phenominal TV actor, he can;t be Cap. Period.

I never saw him on Smallville and this season on 'Supernatural' he has been pretty good....

[Triligors]

Jensen Ackles is a PHENOMENAL television actor and will hopefully go on to have a long running film career after 'Supernatural.' SF, the role he was hired to play in SV was not well written. The actor, however, I would rank among the top in the television world. He wouldn't be that good of a Captain America though.

I said it before, I'll say it again - RYAN PHILIPPE is CAPTAIN AMERICA.

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies20082/stoploss4.jpg

I was also thinking perhaps the first movie, if it is a man out of time type story, the best villain would be THE WINTER SOLDIER with hints to The Red Skull or an ending that revives the Red Skull. This move alone would distinguish it from other superhero films. This would be a very moving and emotional battle for him, coming back and seeing everything that has changed. Also the history he has with:

Bucky. We've always seen Batman & Robin type dynamics, never Batman versus Robin. I think having Winter Soldier be the villain would really aid in having a personal conflict for Captain America to face. Have Red Skull in WWII and then in the end set up his return.

[aka Kal el]

I'm also a Marvel shareholder since 2001. (It's been a fun and prosperous ride hasn't it!) As co-owners of Marvel, we need to get on the same page. I like your story summary but I feel the ENTIRE Cap movie needs to take place in the WWII era. Bringing him to the future without thoroughly establishing him in that era would make the character much too shallow. One thing to take away from the Iron Man film is that character development should be king. Play the "man out of time" angle a few months later in Avengers. There's too much to establish, it's too hard to do both in a two hour movie. Trying to do both will just lead to the story shortcuts that hurt movies like Spider-Man 3. With Avengers lined up a few months later, there's no need to jam it all in to one film. Let classic Cap and his origin breath. Besides, if they don't focus on Cap in Avengers, it'll be a 300 million dollar budget. As co-owners, we need to keep it somewhat cost effective. :cwink: I agree Boss!(oh,just kidding) Seriously you make some very valid points especially about character development. What is your feelings on McConaughy and the other leading canidates?

[Spider-Fan]

I never saw him on Smallville and this season on 'Supernatural' he has been pretty good....

From what I've seen, not good enough :o

I think one of the prime requirements for Cap is talent, and I see many people suggesting people with blonde hair, and no talent (or not the type of talent Cap needs).

[Triligors]

From what you've seen in -SMALLVILLE- a very poorly written character, like the rest of Lana's seasonal bfs.

[BlackLantern]

From what I've seen, not good enough :o

I think one of the prime requirements for Cap is talent, and I see many people suggesting people with blonde hair, and no talent (or not the type of talent Cap needs).

go check out the last 3 or 4 episodes of this seasons' Supernatural...His performance, as compared to the first season, has improved immensely. There are other people I would suggest, Joel Gretsche (The 4400) would be a good pick, but I think he's a bit too old

[Spider-Fan]

From what you've seen in -SMALLVILLE- a very poorly written character, like the rest of Lana's seasonal bfs.

Yes, the character sucked, but I didn't see any remote bit of talent in a poorly written role. He might not have had the best material, but he could easily have done better than he did.

go check out the last 3 or 4 episodes of this seasons' Supernatural...His performance, as compared to the first season, has improved immensely. There are other people I would suggest, Joel Gretsche (The 4400) would be a good pick, but I think he's a bit too old

Have no idea who Gretsche is (off hand).