"Catalysts" Discussion Thread

[Captain Planet!]

Catalysts synopsis:



On the night of the Midtown High Fall Formal, Peter Parker finds his overconfidence is nearly his undoing- as both a teenager and a superhero. While his date, Mary Jane Watson, threatens to invert Midtown's social structure, Pete lets her popularity go to his head. So when the mysterious, murderous Green Goblin tries to force L. Thompson Lincoln (a.k.a. Tombstone) to step down as NYC's Big Man of crime, will Spider-Man take this new threat seriously enough- or will he be so cocky he loses his big head?!

Airs on April 26th

[PJBoy]

Two threads? What's the real one? lol

[vinny2]

Two threads? What's the real one? lol

Man, is that embarrassing.:oldrazz:

[Captain Planet!]

Two threads? What's the real one? lol
Both made at 11:27 AM. :hehe:

[Webhead2006]

Cant wait for the episode to come sounds great and as i said in the other threads i hope they are not pulling another identity change like shocker and have tombstone actually be big man. I think they are leading us the viewers to think it is him but then in the end it will be revealed that it is foswell and it will be a bigger shock to peter and others.

[Web-Head]

I love the sounds of Gobby trying to take over the rackets.

A cool aspect of the character that hasn't been used for at least 40 years.

[Kal-El 8]

I'm not to excited on tptb following the original comic book storyline of The Green Goblin wanting to take compleate control of The Crime Ring in New York . I prefer The 90's Introduction of Gobby . Which gobby just tries to get Revenge on all the people whoever did wrong to Norman Osborn .

I mean if you think about it Osborn already has power running Oscorp , and since Tptb can't use Fisk yet in the series . Osborn is one of the richest Men in New York , Why would he need to be in charge of the crime in New York ? When he's already a very wealth, powerful & successful Business Man .

Leave The Whole trying to take over the rackets. to The Hobgoblin like the 90's did .

[Havok]

Damn two weeks :waa:

[Web-Head]

I mean if you think about it Osborn already has power running Oscorp , and since Tptb can't use Fisk yet in the series . Osborn is one of the richest Men in New York , Why would he need to be in charge of the crime in New York ? When he's already a very wealth, powerful & successful Business Man .
Why stop there when he could go beyond, and control everything? :cwink:

[Jick09]

what powerful people want?

...more power...

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can't wait for this episode. It sounds amazing!!! :up:

[Shmoil]

The point is that originally people didn't know that GG was Osborne, so that didn't really matter and it came as a shock when the reveal was made.

I for one love that they're playing to the original.

[Web-Head]

what powerful people wants?

...more power...
Exactly my point.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The point is that originally people didn't know that GG was Osborne, so that didn't really matter and it came as a shock when the reveal was made.

I for one love that they're playing to the original. Agreed, that's one of the reasons this show is doing so amazing. It's staying true to the comics with alot of things.

[Webhead2006]

Yea thats the best thing when they take alot of aspects from the comics for the show. Yes there is changes like race looks, and eddie and the whole shocker/montana deal(hopefully doesnt happen to other villains). Also is any mob going to close/delete the second catalysts thread?

[Kal-El 8]

Why stop there when he could go beyond, and control everything? :cwink:



what powerful people want?

...more power...

I get the point , However IMO this move seems to cheapen the
character of Norman Osborn into a Lex Luthor rip-off character. Instead of the stand alone Character Norman Osborn has become in the comics .

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea thats the best thing when they take alot of aspects from the comics for the show. Yes there is changes like race looks, and eddie and the whole shocker/montana deal(hopefully doesnt happen to other villains). Also is any mob going to close/delete the second catalysts thread? Yeah, though I had no problem with Montana as Shocker.

[Kal-El 8]

Agreed, that's one of the reasons this show is doing so amazing. It's staying true to the comics with alot of things.

I too love that their paying tribute to the original source material from comics on the show . However their are certain things in the comics that just wouldn't work on a realistic level .

I say if they could change The Shocker origin from Herman to Montana then they could Change the origin of The Green Goblin too .

[Jick09]

Yea thats the best thing when they take alot of aspects from the comics for the show. Yes there is changes like race looks, and eddie and the whole shocker/montana deal(hopefully doesnt happen to other villains). Also is any mob going to close/delete the second catalysts thread?yeah I asked Immortalfire to delete the other one.
still didn't.

[Spiderine]

I'm not to excited on tptb following the original comic book storyline of The Green Goblin wanting to take compleate control of The Crime Ring in New York . I prefer The 90's Introduction of Gobby . Which gobby just tries to get Revenge on all the people whoever did wrong to Norman Osborn .

I mean if you think about it Osborn already has power running Oscorp , and since Tptb can't use Fisk yet in the series . Osborn is one of the richest Men in New York , Why would he need to be in charge of the crime in New York ? When he's already a very wealth, powerful & successful Business Man .

Leave The Whole trying to take over the rackets. to The Hobgoblin like the 90's did .
Absolute power.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I too love that their paying tribute to the original source material from comics on the show . However their are certain things in the comics that just wouldn't work on a realistic level .

I say if they could change The Shocker origin from Herman to Montana then they could Change the origin of The Green Goblin too . They aren't going to change the origin of the Green Goblin. It's just so unlikely.

[Kal-El 8]

One of the reason I loved The 90's introduction of The Green Goblin is that Norman's motives for becoming The Goblin, wasn't to become The Kingpin of crime in New York City (Instead that was The Hobgoblin's agenda ) but was to settle a Vendetta with all of Norman's enemies (Fisk, Hardy, & Jameson) . Even the first movie in The Spider-Man trilogy by Sam Raimi & company followed that same format (With Norman using the Goblin persona to get revenge on The Oscorp borad members that tried to take over his company .)

[Jick09]

I though we were getting 2 new episodes each week. Instead we're only getting one new episode this week and another new one in 2 weeks. this sucks.

[Kal-El 8]

They aren't going to change the origin of the Green Goblin. It's just so unlikely.

Well then they shouldn't have changed The Shockers origin either then . It should've been Herman not Montana .

[Havok]

Well then they shouldn't have changed The Shockers origin either then . It should've been Herman not Montana .

Get over it already it was one character.

Green Goblin is a much bigger villain then the Shocker so they prolly wont change his orgin.

[Kal-El 8]

Get over it already it was one character.

Green Goblin is a much bigger villain then the Shocker so they prolly wont change his orgin.

Sorry I hated that Shocker sounded like some Southern cowboy with bad puns etc ....

[Spiderine]

One of the reason I loved The 90's introduction of The Green Goblin is that Norman's motives for becoming The Goblin, wasn't to become The Kingpin of crime in New York City (Instead that was The Hobgoblin's agenda ) but was to settle a Vendetta with all of Norman's enemies (Fisk, Hardy, & Jameson) . Even the first movie in The Spider-Man trilogy by Sam Raimi & company followed that same format (With Norman using the Goblin persona to get revenge on The Oscorp borad members that tried to take over his company .)
The way I saw it Hammerhead is threatening to expose Norman for their secret activities tracing Sandman and Rhino back to Oscorp. Norman aint havin that. He will protect his own interests.

[Joker]

Did we get preview footage for this episode?

[Jick09]

Well then they shouldn't have changed The Shockers origin either then . It should've been Herman not Montana .true...but we barely know Herman's persona.
while I didn't like the change to Montana...I liked his personality.

[Spiderine]

Did we get preview footage for this episode?
No.

[Web-Head]

More than likely, next Saturday we'll get some footage.

[Spiderine]

true...but we barely know Herman's persona.
while I didn't like the change to Montana...I liked his personality.
It all flowed with the overall arc of the story so didn't bother me at all.

[Kal-El 8]

The way I saw it Hammerhead is threatening to expose Norman for their secret activities tracing Sandman and Rhino back to Oscorp. Norman aint havin that. He will protect his own interests.

Ok That's Revenge , I like that . I just don't like the attempt to take over the rackets in New York city . Osborn not some common thug trying to get to the top . He's a powerful, respected ,wealth business Man .

[Spider-ManHero12]

Edit-Web-Head said it before me. :yay:

[Spiderine]

Ok That's Revenge , I like that . I just don't like the attempt to take over the rackets in New York city . Osborn not some common thug trying to get to the top . He's a powerful, respected ,wealth business Man .
That's true. But we all know that the formula will drive Norman insane as he develops as entirely different persona being the Green Goblin. Can't reason with insanity.

[Kal-El 8]

true...but we barely know Herman's persona.
while I didn't like the change to Montana...I liked his personality.

Yes we do,

We read it in the comics

We saw it in the 90's series

We saw it in the cinamatic scenes movie based video game Spider-Man : The movie & Spider-Man 2

[Kal-El 8]

But we all know that the formula will drive Norman insane as he develops as entirely different persona being the Green Goblin. Can't reason with insanity.

Yes I know .

My problem is only The Kingpin element ,(Crime Lord of New York City)

Because then he just comes a cross as Lex Luthor , Not Norman Osborn .

[Joker]

More than likely, next Saturday we'll get some footage.

You mean there's no new episode next saturday?

[Havok]

Yes we do,

We read it in the comics

We saw it in the 90's series

We saw it in the cinamatic scenes movie based video game Spider-Man : The movie & Spider-Man 2

So you would rather have some guy with no character development become Shocker just because of his name. Instead of using some one who has had character development.

[Jick09]

Yes we do,

We read it in the comics

We saw it in the 90's series

We saw it in the movie based video game Spider-Man : The movie & Spider-Man 2we almost never see his face.
never in the 90's series, never in the games.
only quickly in the Quentin Beck mission in SM2.
I don't know about the comics, but I doubt it's so different.
it's Shocker who most of us know about. not Herman.

[Spiderine]

You mean there's no new episode next saturday?
Reruns next Saturday.

[Spiderine]

Yes I know .

My problem is only The Kingpin element ,(Crime Lord of New York City)

Because then he just comes a cross as Lex Luthor , Not Norman Osborn .
But this was an aspect of Norman in the early days of the comics. So they are staying somewhat true.

[Kal-El 8]

So you would rather have some guy with no character development become Shocker just because of his name. Instead of using some one who has had character development.


Herman Schultz was both an inventor and an engineer , a successful burglar & the world's best safe-cracker. After finally being caught and incarcerated for his crimes, he developed a pair of gauntlets designed to shoot air blasts, vibrating at high frequency.Schultz used the gauntlets to escape from prison and became the mighty supervillain known as "The Shocker".

[Spider-ManHero12]

You mean there's no new episode next saturday As Spiderine said, there are reruns next saturday and I think it's supposed to go on for a while.

[Joker]

Reruns next Saturday.

Dammit! I'm aching to see Goblin and Ock in this cartoon.

[Havok]

Herman Schultz was both an inventor and an engineer , a successful burglar & the world's best safe-cracker. After finally being caught and incarcerated for his crimes, he developed a pair of gauntlets designed to shoot air blasts, vibrating at high frequency.Schultz used the gauntlets to escape from prison and became the mighty supervillain known as "The Shocker".

Im talking about the TV show. He hasn't been shown yet.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Dammit! I'm aching to see Goblin and Ock in this cartoon. Me to, don't worry though, atleast we will see a new promo next saturday. :up:

[Kal-El 8]

But this was an aspect of Norman in the early days of the comics. So they are staying somewhat true.

It was a dumb idea , just like the flying broomstick instead of a glider . If their following the origin to the letter then why don't they have the gobby on a broomstick .:oldrazz:

[Spiderine]

Herman Schultz was both an inventor and an engineer , a successful burglar & the world's best safe-cracker. After finally being caught and incarcerated for his crimes, he developed a pair of gauntlets designed to shoot air blasts, vibrating at high frequency.Schultz used the gauntlets to escape from prison and became the mighty supervillain known as "The Shocker".
I wouldn't be surprised if the next time Shocker shows up or maybe in the future it may be Herman. Or maybe Herman could have designed the equipment before they stole it in the first place. They do have the suit in their custody.

[Spider-ManHero12]

It was a dumb idea , just like the flying broomstick instead of a glider . If their following the origin to the letter then why don't they have the gobby on a broomstick .:oldrazz: I liked the flying broomstick, but of course, the glider is the best, IMO.

[Kal-El 8]

Im talking about the TV show. He hasn't been shown yet.

In The 90's he was just a pro henchmen of The Kingpin .

[Spiderine]

It was a dumb idea , just like the flying broomstick instead of a glider . If their following the origin to the letter then why don't they have the gobby on a broomstick .:oldrazz:
Well...they corrected it in his second appearance with the glider so I hope they don't go that route. They released his design so we know he has a glider.

[Spider-ManHero12]

In The 90's he was just a pro henchmen of The Kingpin . He's not in tihs show though. He's already showing some signs of going his own way and taking care of Spider-Man himself.

[Kal-El 8]

Well...they corrected it in his second appearance with the glider so I hope they don't go that route. They released his design so we know he has a glider.

I know .

[Kal-El 8]

He's not in tihs show though. He's already showing some signs of going his own way and taking care of Spider-Man himself.

Ok Once The Enforcers got their ass kicked by Spidey . Montana should've just left . He just doesn't suit the role of The Shocker . He's a jackass southern cowboy not a high-tec supervillain .

[Jick09]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next time Shocker shows up or maybe in the future it may be Herman. Or maybe Herman could have designed the equipment before they stole it in the first place. They do have the suit in their custody.I like the idea

[Spider-ManHero12]

Ok Once The Enforcers got their ass kicked by Spidey . Montana should've just left . He just doesn't suit the role of The Shocker . He's a jackass southern cowboy not a high-tec supervillain . I disagree, almost every Villian wants revenge on Spidey. Montana is glad that he was forced to get revenge on Spidey, but in a more powerful way and I'm lovnig it.

[raindog13]

I can't wait for this episode! I really want to see GG. :gg:

[Sarcastic Fan]

Norman Osborn wanting control of the mob from the Big Man makes sense. Hammerhead and Big Man are now threatening to blackmail him if he doesn't continue to create supervillains for them when they say so.

It's about power. He's Norman Osborn, no one tells him what to do.

It makes sense.

[vinny2]

Norman Osborn wanting control of the mob from the Big Man makes sense. Hammerhead and Big Man are now threatening to blackmail him if he doesn't continue to create supervillains for them when they say so.

It's about power. He's Norman Osborn, no one tells him what to do.

It makes sense.

and Norman is weary that if he continues making supervillains at such a rapid pace, it'll eventually lead back to him (of course, Big Man and Hammerhead couldn't care less). Norman has to take over or else he's screwed. It's not so much taking over the mob, but taking Big Man out of it.

[TheSlag]

Pity IMO that Norman will become the GG in one episode like all the other villains so far. His story deserves more. Yes, they have hinted (mainly in the last episode) that Norman's hand will be forced by the Big Man, since Norman is playing both sides, but still.

I would of loved to have seen more foreshadowing of the Green Goblin's ascent in past episodes. Norman working late at the lab. Norman losing it, both at work, and slipping with Harry more.

The Heart OSBORN... THE HEART.

Pity it is lacking there (heart)... cartoon or not.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Norman Osborn wanting control of the mob from the Big Man makes sense. Hammerhead and Big Man are now threatening to blackmail him if he doesn't continue to create supervillains for them when they say so.

It's about power. He's Norman Osborn, no one tells him what to do.

It makes sense. Very true, Norman Osborn is basically selfish and he's mean. He even sad in the first episode "don''t you dare apologize Doctor. I never do."

[vinny2]

Very true, Norman Osborn is basically selfish and he's mean. He even sad in the first episode "don''t you dare apologize Doctor. I never do."

Basically, but you combined to different conversation. He says this at OsCorp:

"Don't you dare apologize, doctor. OsCorp has nothing to apologize for."

Later, he says this at home:

"Don't you dare apologize, son. I never do."

[Spiderine]

Very true, Norman Osborn is basically selfish and he's mean. He even sad in the first episode "don''t you dare apologize Doctor. I never do."
Exactly. Norman has been shown to be cold and viscious thus far in this series. I like it. From being hard on Harry, not giving a f*** when Flint dissolved into a pile of sand, having no fear whatsoever of Vulture even with his life in jeopardy, standing up to Hammerhead, and even warning Ock not to screw up again. I am lovin it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Exactly. Norman has been shown to be cold and viscious thus far in this series. I like it. From being hard on Harry, not giving a f*** when Flint dissolved into a pile of sand, having no fear whatsoever of Vulture even with his life in jeopardy, standing up to Hammerhead, and even warning Ock not to screw up again. I am lovin it. Defenitley, and just imagine how mean he is when he is the Green Goblin.

[Spiderine]

Basically, but you combined to different conversation. He says this at OsCorp:

"Don't you dare apologize, doctor. OsCorp has nothing to apologize for."

Later, he says this at home:

"Don't you dare apologize, son. I never do."
There was no more an example of this when Vulture demanded Norman apologize and Norman graciously refused.

[Webhead2006]

Yea he is probably going to be one sick mofo lol. Now on to another thing as i stated in this thread and today's episode thread i really hope they arent making tombstone be the actual identity of big man and it is foswell like it should be. If they keep pulling a move like this merging characters together(montana/shocker) it really limits them from returning as either character in future appearances which would be a stupid move. So i hope there is no more vilain identity changes in the future.

[Spiderine]

Yea he is probably going to be one sick mofo lol. Now on to another thing as i stated in this thread and today's episode thread i really hope they arent making tombstone be the actual identity of big man and it is foswell like it should be. If they keep pulling a move like this merging characters together(montana/shocker) it really limits them from returning as either character in future appearances which would be a stupid move. So i hope there is no more vilain identity changes in the future.
I believe he is the front. He is the physical presence and nothing more. Foswell will be the twist.

[Silver Spider]

Going back to Green Goblin for a second, I liked the incarnation in the movie, because he was like a combination of the 90's cartoon version and the comic version. He wanted more power, and wanted revenge on those trying to keep power away from him. I mean even in the mirror scene he tells Norman he's there to say what he won't, to do what he can't, and to remove those in his way. And he also said he gave him power beyond his wildess dreams and that it was only the beginning.

[Kal-El 8]

Going back to Green Goblin for a second, I liked the incarnation in the movie, because he was like a combination of the 90's cartoon version and the comic version. He wanted more power, and wanted revenge on those trying to keep power away from him. I mean even in the mirror scene he tells Norman he's there to say what he won't, to do what he can't, and to remove those in his way. And he also said he gave him power beyond his wildess dreams and that it was only the beginning.

That's excatly What I want to see in TSS for Gobby .

[GoldGoblin]

I believe he is the front. He is the physical presence and nothing more. Foswell will be the twist.

^
Just like on Batman Begins with Ra's Al Ghul.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^
Just like on Batman Begins with Ra's Al Ghul. Indeed, it's a pretty big twist.

[Kal-El 8]

^
Just like on Batman Begins with Ra's Al Ghul.

Exactly his right hand man Ubu was only ment to be a decoy Ra's .

[Spider-ManHero12]

^ yeah, and this makes me think, Big Man really is sneaky. :up:

[Silver Spider]

^Indeed, he is.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i really really hope it is a twist to keep big man's real identity secret a little while longer. If this is what they are doing then it is a much better and shocking reveal later when we and the characters learn it is foswell.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I really think Green Goblin is going to be a huge challenge for Spidey in this show. :up:

[Kal-El 8]

I really think Green Goblin is going to be a huge challenge for Spidey in this show. :up:

I think they will build up on The Green Goblin becoming Spidey's Number 1 Arch-Nemesis very similar to how tptb have done with Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor on "SMALLVILLE" . For the past 7 Years .

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think they will build up on The Green Goblin becoming Spidey's Number 1 Arch-Nemesis very similar to how tptb have done with Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor on "SMALLVILLE" . For the past 7 Years . Yeah, I mean, Green Goblin and Spidey's conflicts became very personal in ASM Issue #39. So, I think we will see that development adapted into this show.

[Kal-El 8]

Yeah, I mean, Green Goblin and Spidey's conflicts became very personal in ASM Issue #39. So, I think we will see that development adapted into this show.

Well Yeah when The Goblin found out Parker was in fact Spidey . Things really got personal . Parker knew who Gobby was, But it went really dead on target .

As I said Raimi got a Bulleye with Defoe as Norman/Goblin arc in the first movie the whole dynamic between Peter & Norman (in the beginning ) then Spidey vs. Gobby to the climatic showdown at the end of the movie was magnificent .

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well Yeah when The Goblin found out Parker was in fact Spidey . Things really got personal . Parker knew who Gobby was, But it went really dead on target .

As I said Raimi got a Bulleye with Defoe as Norman/Goblin arc in the first movie the whole dynamic between Peter & Norman (in the beginning ) then Spidey vs. Gobby to the climatic showdown at the end of the movie was magnificent . Agreed, that's one of the reasons that the stories between Spidey and Green Goblin are on my list of favorite Spidey stories. :up:

[Kal-El 8]

Agreed, that's one of the reasons that the stories between Spidey and Green Goblin are on my list of favorite Spidey stories. :up:

Spidey vs. The Goblin is one of my favorite Hero vs. Villain match ups

1. Batman vs. The Joker

2. Superman vs. Lex Luthor

3. Spider-Man vs. The Green Goblin

4. Captain America vs. The Red Skull

5. Wolverine vs. Sabertooth

6. The Flash vs. Zoom

7. Mr. Fantastic vs. Doctor Doom

8. Iron Man vs. The Mandarin

9. Green Lantern vs. Sinestro

10. The Justice League vs. The Legion of Doom or Injustice Gang

[Spider-ManHero12]

Spidey vs. The Goblin is one of my favorite Hero vs. Villain match ups

1. Batman vs. The Joker

2. Superman vs. Lex Luthor

3. Spider-Man vs. The Green Goblin

4. Captain America vs. The Red Skull

5. Wolverine vs. Sabertooth

6. The Flash vs. Zoom

7. Mr. Fantastic vs. Doctor Doom

8. Iron Man vs. The Mandarin

9. Green Lantern vs. Sinestro

10. The Justice League vs. The Legion of Doom or Injustice Gang Spiddey vs. Green Goblin truly is my favorite battle Spidey's had, even though Venom is my favorite Villian. Anyway, let's get back on topic. :up:

[spida-man]

spidey and goblin is one for me and TDK vs the joker is number two.
super man vs lex luthor isn't even on my list(unless u count the Smallville version)

[Spiderine]

Bats and Joker for me.

[Arcturus]

I am absolutely thrilled to read that they will be going back to the original goblin roots from the comics. I prefer that origin the best, and I can't wait to see how it plays out in the Spectacular Spider-Man.

[ReggieWhiteJr]

Well reading that summary makes the two week wait even more difficult. :csad:

[Shocker 9000]

Is this the next new episode? Or is there a different one next week?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well reading that summary makes the two week wait even more difficult. :csad: Yeah, but atleast we are getting a promo next saturday.

[Webhead2006]

Hopefully unless idiot programers at kids wb forget to put it up lol.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Hopefully unless idiot programers at kids wb forget to put it up lol. Lol, that would be horrible. :csad:

[ReggieWhiteJr]

Yeah, but atleast we are getting a promo next saturday.


You're right. I forgot about those! I was gonna watch the repeats anyways (loved seeing the Electro ep again) but now I'm stoked for the promo! Hopefully we'll be able to hear the Goblin laugh in the promo, though that could just make waiting even more difficult.

[Spider-ManHero12]

You're right. I forgot about those! I was gonna watch the repeats anyways (loved seeing the Electro ep again) but now I'm stoked for the promo! Hopefully we'll be able to hear the Goblin laugh in the promo, though that could just make waiting even more difficult. Yeah, I hope so to. I can't wait to see him ride his glider. :up:

[Venomfan]

So you would rather have some guy with no character development become Shocker just because of his name. Instead of using some one who has had character development.
terrible argument. Montana had been on screen for 1 minute max before the shocker episode and all he did was talk in a southern accent and fly a helicopter, that isn't character development. Introducing Herman, which they didn't even need to do, they could have just said here's shocker and left his identity secret or w/e. anyway character development is no issue for why Montana was shocker

[Sarcastic Fan]

terrible argument. Montana had been on screen for 1 minute max before the shocker episode and all he did was talk in a southern accent and fly a helicopter, that isn't character development. Introducing Herman, which they didn't even need to do, they could have just said here's shocker and left his identity secret or w/e. anyway character development is no issue for why Montana was shocker

Are you still whining about this? It's not like this is a cure for cancer.

[Shocker 9000]

So do we have a new episode next week or not?

[Sarcastic Fan]

So do we have a new episode next week or not?

Nope, week after.

[Shocker 9000]

Nope, week after.

Dang! Well guess I can sleep in next week.

[ReggieWhiteJr]

Dang! Well guess I can sleep in next week.

But you'll miss the promo for the Green Goblin episode if you do that!! :wow:

[Spider-ManHero12]

But you'll miss the promo for the Green Goblin episode if you do that!! :wow: He can manually record it though. :word:

[Shocker 9000]

He can manually record it though. :word:

No I can't. I don't have a DVR or VCR or any other recording acronyms. :csad:

[Venomfan]

Are you still whining about this? It's not like this is a cure for cancer.
i'm just here to snap people back to reality when they use bad arugments:oldrazz:

[Web-Head]

But you'll miss the promo for the Green Goblin episode if you do that!! :wow:

He can manually record it though. :word:
And it'll be on KidsWB!'s website the same morning.

[Spider-ManHero12]

And it'll be on KidsWB!'s website the same morning. Yep. :up:

[ReggieWhiteJr]

And it'll be on KidsWB!'s website the same morning.


Ha, of course! Enjoy those Zs! :woot:

[Spider-ManHero12]

No I can't. I don't have a DVR or VCR or any other recording acronyms. :csad: Well, as Web-Head said, it will be on the KidsWB! website that morning. :up:

[ReggieWhiteJr]

I was kinda hoping Spidey would be on an ego trip when he fought Doc Ock for the first time like he was in the comics, but seeing as how he won the bet with Flash and is gonna show up to the dance with the hottest redhead on the planet, I can see why his head would be inflated.

Sounds like Spidey could end up dealing with Tombstone AND the Green Goblin. Man, 2 weeks seems like forever!

[IamProdigy]

Well, you see the cops were shooting at him in the end of "The Invisible Hand", so when he faces Doc Ock, since it'll be more out in the open, he could be facing DO and the police.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can't wait to hear the Green Goblin's laugh in this show. :up:

[Arcturus]

I wonder if Norman/Goblin will discover Spider-Mans secret identity in this episode, and vice versa. Or do you think they will hold off until another episode?

[Spider-ManHero12]

I wonder if Norman/Goblin will discover Spider-Mans secret identity in this episode, and vice versa. Or do you think they will hold off until another episode? I think they'll hold it off until the second or third season. Most likely the third season.

[Superhero 101]

I hope he finds out soon maybe in their Second Encounter.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I hope he finds out soon maybe in their Second Encounter. That would be cool. However, I'm thinking more like their third encounter.

[Web-Head]

That would be cool. However, I'm thinking more like their third encounter.
Yeah, I'd like it to happen as late as possible to get some battles similar to their first few and have them both guessing each other's identity.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, I'd like it to happen as late as possible to get some battles similar to their first few and have them both guessing each other's identity. Indeed, and make it so that the battles get more and more personal.

[Anwar]

I just hope Goblin escapes by the end so he can continue to menace Peter throughout the series.

Venom getting locked up after their first fight wouldn't be so bad, since Brock never told anyone who Peter was even when caught.

[Webhead2006]

if brock is to be capture at the end of venom episode i wonder who is going to take him shield or some other govt group....

[Spider-ManHero12]

if brock is to be capture at the end of venom episode i wonder who is going to take him shield or some other govt group.... Yeah, or maybe just regular police.

[Anwar]

Or OsCorp will make his cell like he's supposed to be making cells for the other villains too.

He might use anti-Spiderman weapons he's been developing to keep Venom in jail or something. Either that or use Brock as a guinea pig for anti-Spiderman weapons he makes.

[ReggieWhiteJr]

I don't think the Green Goblin will be caught. My guess is, he'll escape much like he did in all their early encounters in the comics. In later seasons, I predict he'll learn Spidey's ID.

[Spiderine]

I don't think the Green Goblin will be caught. My guess is, he'll escape much like he did in all their early encounters in the comics. In later seasons, I predict he'll learn Spidey's ID.
He has too. No one will know the gobby is Norman.

[spida-man]

I can't wait to hear the Green Goblin's laugh in this show. :up:
yea that should be pretty interesting.

[Visionary]

Well, you see the cops were shooting at him in the end of "The Invisible Hand", so when he faces Doc Ock, since it'll be more out in the open, he could be facing DO and the police.I didn't see that, were the cops really shooting at the end of this episode, I must have blinked and missed it. Too bad no one has this part on Youtube along with the Tombstone ending. Damn, I really have to start taping these shows.

[Web-Head]

I didn't see that, were the cops really shooting at the end of this episode, I must have blinked and misssed it. Too bad no one has this part on Youtude along with the Tombstone ending. Damn, I really have to start taping these shows.
They didn't shoot at him, just point their guns at him.

[Spider-ManHero12]

They didn't shoot at him, just point their guns at him. Yeah, and speaking of that scene, I found it funny but cool when Captain Stacy said "lay down in you're....crater". :yay::woot:

[ReggieWhiteJr]

They didn't shoot at him, just point their guns at him.

Right. Pointed but didn't shoot. Which, everyone with a gun seems to do in this show. Maybe they aren't allowed to fire the guns in this show but it beats stupid-looking futuristic lasers.

[Silver Spider]

I had no idea that was Captain Stacy, when I was watching it.

[Ratcrawler]

I just noticed in Invisible Hand, towards the end when Hammerhead is in Norman's office, when the latter walks down the stairs, you can see a green mask with pointy ears resting on the shelf.

[Silver Spider]

^I didn't see that either.

[ReggieWhiteJr]

I just noticed in Invisible Hand, towards the end when Hammerhead is in Norman's office, when the latter walks down the stairs, you can see a green mask with pointy ears resting on the shelf.

I missed that! Man, this show has so many easter eggs!!

[Webhead2006]

i noticed it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I had no idea that was Captain Stacy, when I was watching it. I knew it was him as soon as I saw him. I just felt it was him.

[Ratcrawler]

Didn't quite look like the one he'd be wearing though.

[Sarcastic Fan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Funny%20Pictures/GoblinMask.jpg

[Spider-ManHero12]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Funny%20Pictures/GoblinMask.jpg Yeah, I noticed that the first time I saw it. I just forgot to mention it. It's so cool to see that in the show. :up:

[Arcturus]

It looks like a tribal mask, much like the ones Norman had in his manor.

[Sarcastic Fan]

Yeah, it's a mask, but I doubt it's the mask.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, it's a mask, but I doubt it's the mask. Yeah, it could just be for decoration.

[Sarcastic Fan]

Yeah, it could just be for decoration.

Probably is, I have a few masks for decoration.

[Webhead2006]

yea it was probably just decoration and a future nod to him becoming green goblin.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Probably is, I have a few masks for decoration. Cool! :yay:

[ReggieWhiteJr]

I knew it was him as soon as I saw him. I just felt it was him.

Ha, same here! I was like "Finally!" we he appeared. I knew he was gonna be in this series. I was just wondering what episode he was gonna show up in.

[Web-Head]

The nose and ears aren't the same shape as Gobby's mask in the show. Just a decoration, I bet.

[Venomfan]

He has too. No one will know the gobby is Norman.
i think it would be cool if they kept the goblins identity a secret from the audience until later like in the comics


anyways, so that was captain stacey with the megaphone? they did a pretty poor job on the character design with him, he doesn't remotly resemble the comic character, other than having white hair. hasn't Capt stacey always been a tall skinny guy?

[ironwez20]

i just love how this show sticks close to everything about spidey even better then the movie,and if gg looks like that mask ill faint.

[Sarcastic Fan]

TVGuide has an exclusive first look at Green Goblin from The Spectacular Spider-Man:

http://community.tvguide.com/cache/800015975_220_cache.png

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/ (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686)Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686 (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686)


Voicing the character is Steve Blum, a veteran of many video games and cartoons, and the voice star of the upcoming Nicktoons Network series Wolverine and the X-Men.

[Anwar]

?! I thought Blum was voicing the Chameleon, not the Goblin.

So Rachins will be Norman but NOT the Goblin? Guess he uses a voice amplifier or something.

[sauronthegreat]

TVGuide has an exclusive first look at Green Goblin from The Spectacular Spider-Man:

http://community.tvguide.com/cache/800015975_220_cache.png

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/ (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686)Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686 (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686)

I'm dying to see him in action! And I believe finally the Goblin will get the respect he deserves, after that shameful fiasco in the film. Sam Raimi should look at this show and realize how devoted fans and creators are visualizing our favorite characters.

[Sarcastic Fan]

?! I thought Blum was voicing the Chameleon, not the Goblin.

Blum is voicing both.

[Spider-ManHero12]

TVGuide has an exclusive first look at Green Goblin from The Spectacular Spider-Man:

http://community.tvguide.com/cache/800015975_220_cache.png

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686 (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686) Awesome photo! :wow::up:

[Webhead2006]

hmm i wonder why they are not having norman voice actor play goblin???? hopefully goblin has a good voice.

[sauronthegreat]

He looks so insane in that photo, as he should look. Wow! The mixture of stiles incorporated in this design really makes the complete Goblin.

[vinny2]

Through means I am contractionaly obligated not to speak of, I totally called someone else voicing the Goblin and Blum is the perfect choice.

[Silver Spider]

I'm dying to see him in action! And I believe finally the Goblin will get the respect he deserves, after that shameful fiasco in the film. Sam Raimi should look at this show and realize how devoted fans and creators are visualizing our favorite characters.
Why does everyone hate movie Goblin's costume. It's not that bad, and personally I've always disliked the whole "Pantsless Joe" costume. He did not look like a power ranger, as others have said.

[vinny2]

Why does everyone hate movie Goblin's costume. It's not that bad, and personally I've always disliked the whole "Pantsless Joe" costume. He did not look like a power ranger, as others have said.

I agree. Sure didn't look much like the comic version, but I like the armor idea. I would still have liked some purple in it, though.

[Silver Spider]

I agree. Sure didn't look much like the comic version, but I like the armor idea. I would still have liked some purple in it, though.
Atleast there was purple on the glider.

[Venomfan]

hey well the one thing we can all for sure agree on is that Willem Dafoe played the character to a T. now the SSM Goblin design, imo the pumpin head jock is really stupid looking, and i miss the hood, he's got like a little tuke or helmet or something instead, oh and the chin is as bad as Vultures nose, everything else looks cool though

[Silver Spider]

^Yep, that and Spiderman's costume is one of the few things even the haters liked.

[Captain Planet!]

I knew it was him as soon as I saw him. I just felt it was him.
Me too.

[sauronthegreat]

Why does everyone hate movie Goblin's costume. It's not that bad, and personally I've always disliked the whole "Pantsless Joe" costume. He did not look like a power ranger, as others have said.

It would have been great for a Scorpion costume, not a goblin. A goblin with a plastic or metal armor doesn't make sense. At least not like they made him. Norman Osborn was perfect, but the Goblin was the worst design ever made. Maybe the costume wasn't that bad if they put some garment, but the mask was terrible. It's stupid when you see it on screen. He is not terrible and hideous as he should be, but he is fanny and pathetic. No offense, but that's my problem with that Goblin, I don't blame anyone if they find it interesting.

[Silver Spider]

^You blame Sam Raimi, for liking it.

[sauronthegreat]

^You blame Sam Raimi, for liking it.

Hehe... I hate him for that, not blame him!

[Spider-ManHero12]

He looks so insane in that photo, as he should look. Wow! The mixture of stiles incorporated in this design really makes the complete Goblin. Agreed, He look so menacing! :up:

[ReggieWhiteJr]

Now that is one psychotic looking Goblin. As well he should be! I'm more excited to hear him laugh then I am throw a pumpkin bomb! :wow::woot:

[Silver Spider]

Are the pumpkin bombs going to be the same as they were in the old trailer?

[Web-Head]

TVGuide has an exclusive first look at Green Goblin from The Spectacular Spider-Man:

http://community.tvguide.com/cache/800015975_220_cache.png

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/ (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686)Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686 (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Look-Spectacular/800037686)
Looks great. Blum'll do Gobby justice, he's a good voice actor.

[Ratcrawler]

There was a scene in sPider-Man where Goblin's lenses were open and Norman's mouth shown through the Goblin's smile. They should have kept it that way. The mask was menacing but Willem Defoe is too good an actor keep his face entirely concealed. Hell, even Dr. Doom's eyes were on disPlay.

[Compi716]

Hey, I was thinking about something today...

Do you think the origin of the Green Goblin will be revealed at first. As anyone who read the original comics knows, it's not revealed who GG is until MUCH later (hell, Norman Osborn isn't even introduced in the first 30 issues).

So what does everybody think? Will we be introduced to the Green Goblin without an origin? Will he show up, cause mayhem, disappear, and then show up some episodes later and do the same (I for one LOVE GG's first appearance story).

This show seems to stick pretty closely to the ideas of the original Lee/Ditko run, so...
:spidey:

[ReggieWhiteJr]

Big Man did his homework, so I'm sure he'd make a way to out Norman as the ones behind Sandman and Rhino if he ever tried to cross him or stop making super villains. Norman, however, probably doesn't like the idea of being threated so he just may try to take out Tombstone and the Big Man. Great stuff.

Well we all know who Gobby is behind the mask but even if they decide not to reveal who he is on screen in this episode, I'll be fine with that.

I'm looking forward to seeing Gwen's reaction to MJ on Peter's arm.:word:

[Sarcastic Fan]

Big Man did his homework, so I'm sure he'd make a way to out Norman as the ones behind Sandman and Rhino if he ever tried to cross him or stop making super villains. Norman, however, probably doesn't like the idea of being threated so he just may try to take out Tombstone and the Big Man. Great stuff.

Well we all know who Gobby is behind the mask but even if they decide not to reveal who he is on screen in this episode, I'll be fine with that.

I'm looking forward to seeing Gwen's reaction to MJ on Peter's arm.:word:

Tombstone IS the Big Man.

[Arcturus]

Goblin certainly looks menacing!

[Captain Planet!]

Tombstone IS the Big Man.
I doubt that.

[vinny2]

Tombstone IS the Big Man.


Or so we've been led to believe... (sorry. Force of habit.)

[Silver Spider]

Tombstone IS the Big Man.
Did someone on the show tell you that, or is it your own opinion?

[Sarcastic Fan]

Did someone on the show tell you that, or is it your own opinion?

In the credits he's "L. Thompson Lincoln/Tombstone/The Big Man".

[vinny2]

In the credits he's "L. Thompson Lincoln/Tombstone/The Big Man".

It did say that, no matter how much I chose not to replay it. I still think it's a change-up, but there is absolutely no problem with Tombstone as the Big Man.

[Silver Spider]

Credits can be wrong. But seriously, I don't really care if the Big Man is Tombstone, I just want official confirmation. I also hope that Foswell is somehow involved in the Big Man story.

[Webhead2006]

yea show wise we dont know for sure if tombstone is really big man they are making us think he is big man but i still hope it is just a poly to trick us and then a bit later it is really revealed that it is foswell. Hell even in the scene with spidey tombstone said he doesnt know who the big man really is, and for me if he was the big man and spidey saying he is he could easily say he is the big man and with all his power no one would believe spidey's claims. Yes the creators can do what they want with the show and they already did the merger of characters with montana and shocker so they could do it again but i really hope they dont plan to do it to more characters really sucks if they do that because it limits either of the merging characters to return in the future and all that.

[vinny2]

^Credits can be wrong.

That's like saying the history book is wrong. Can it be? Sure. Is it usually? No.

[Anwar]

Red Herring. Just like how Justice League didn't tell us that James Remar voiced both Hawkman and Shadow Thief so to not ruin the "Shadow Thief is Hawkman's dark side" story later.

[Webhead2006]

yea and if u notice for the actors who voice multiple roles it does "/" between their characters they voice.

[vinny2]

yea and if u notice for the actors who voice multiple roles it does "/" between their characters they voice.

That is a good point since I do believe that Tombstone has always been the voice on the phone and is the de facto Big Man, but I still believe the orders come from Foswell.

[Webhead2006]

That is what i am hoping is revealed sooner or later, i hate to see them pull merger of characters move alot on villains.

[Silver Spider]

Yeah, I guess Foswell could be the mastermind, and Tombstone is his "ambassador", while Hammerhead is his "enforcer".

[Spider-ManHero12]

Anybody else here get a Ditko/Romita Green goblin feeling from that picture? I certainly do. :up:

[Webhead2006]

Yeah, I guess Foswell could be the mastermind, and Tombstone is his "ambassador", while Hammerhead is his "enforcer".
Thats what i hope it is, because whats the point in having foswell in the show as i said if he is just there to be a red herring to comics fans, and a nod to the character in the comics if he isnt going to be who he is really in the comics. If they wanted a bugle reporter as i said they could have used ben urich(probably cant since he is under daredevil license likely like kingpin) there is loads of other comics reporter characters at the bugle right.

[Sarcastic Fan]

yea and if u notice for the actors who voice multiple roles it does "/" between their characters they voice.

No, there usually isn't a slash. There's usually a comma.

[Webhead2006]

oh i thought i remember seeing / on the credits of the voice actors who do multiple roles.

[Venomfan]

That is what i am hoping is revealed sooner or later, i hate to see them pull merger of characters move alot on villains.
well they can't reveal Foswell as the Bigman at this point because no one knows who Foswell is since he's only had like 4 seconds of screentime. they need to develop Foswell way more first. Anyone who hasn't read the comics probably wouldn't even remember seeing Foswell before if they revealed him

[Webhead2006]

true and thats what i hope they do build him up for a bit then we get the twist a bit later and its revealed he has actually been the big man all along and tombstone is just his top man under hammerhead.

[Shmoil]

Just because he's voicing him doesn't mean Tombstone is the Big Man. Foswell could be using a voice changer to make himself sound just like Tombstone, to try and throw off everyone. I'm just saying. And clinging to a hope.

But really, if Tombstone is the Big Man, it's not that huge a deal to me.

[Webhead2006]

yea i guess its not a big deal since we never seen this character in animated form before and not much is know about him and he was only around for a short time in the classic era. But i personally like to still hope we are just getting fooled into thinking it is tombstone but later to be revealed that it has always been foswell. I just as i said dont want to see mergers of characters happen alot in the show. It worked for shocker story wise and since they didnt include herman schultz in the show but having foswell in the show already why not use him to his full character potential right.

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea i guess its not a big deal since we never seen this character in animated form before and not much is know about him and he was only around for a short time in the classic era. But i personally like to still hope we are just getting fooled into thinking it is tombstone but later to be revealed that it has always been foswell. I just as i said dont want to see mergers of characters happen alot in the show. It worked for shocker story wise and since they didnt include herman schultz in the show but having foswell in the show already why not use him to his full character potential right. Well, I have no problem with tombstone being Big Man, however, as I said before, it could very well be a plot twist. I mean, just look at the way Foswell was acting when Peter was talking to him.

[Webhead2006]

Yes and i hope it is just that as i keep saying and then we get it revealed later that is has been foswell and it would be a better shocker to peter and the rest of the bugle crew.

[ReggieWhiteJr]

If Tombstone is Big Man, you'll hear no complaints from me. Thought from what Tombstone said, I'm inclined to believe it could be someone else.

[Webhead2006]

yea totally if he was really big man i would think he would have totally came out to spidey and showing his power and influence no one would believe him.

[Ratcrawler]

Tombstone taking orders from Foswell would be interesting. Not even Hammerhead would know who the Big Man really is in the scenario.

[Gallagher]

So glad Blum is the Goblin.

He's a great voice actor :up:

[Webhead2006]

hopefully for this voice switch they plan to keep goblin's id sercet for awhile from spidey, and the rest of the characters. I do wonder why they didnt go with norman's vo to do both but its no biggie.

[Spider-ManHero12]

hopefully for this voice switch they plan to keep goblin's id sercet for awhile from spidey, and the rest of the characters. I do wonder why they didnt go with norman's vo to do both but its no biggie. I'm sure they will keep his identity a secret a while. It just doesn't seem like they would reveal his identity so soon. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

[Webhead2006]

yea hopefully thats the plan. I still wonder why they didnt go with norman's vo to do goblin also.

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea hopefully thats the plan. I still wonder why they didnt go with norman's vo to do goblin also. I'm not bad that they are going with a different voice for Goblin. It's probably because he might not have been able to do a great Green Goblin voice.

[Webhead2006]

possible who knows, unless someone posts that question in greg's blog to get official answer lol.

[Spider-ManHero12]

possible who knows, unless someone posts that question in greg's blog to get official answer lol. Yeah, lol.

[Webhead2006]

yup but as u said and i agree its not much of a big deal for a different person to voice goblin since it works for the character to have a different sounding voice when he is goblin and when he is norman and all that. I hope he does a good job with the character. He is logan in the upcoming xmen toon right, i have seen the trailer for that show and thought he sounded great as logan/wolverine.

[Spider-ManHero12]

yup but as u said and i agree its not much of a big deal for a different person to voice goblin since it works for the character to have a different sounding voice when he is goblin and when he is norman and all that. I hope he does a good job with the character. He is logan in the upcoming xmen toon right, i have seen the trailer for that show and thought he sounded great as logan/wolverine. Yeah, I watched that trailer. I'll have to watch it again to hear his voice though. :up:

[Webhead2006]

yea its hard to find since its been pulled off alot of sites due to them illegally using a foo fighters song in the trailer and foo fighters dudes were mad about it. U can probably find it somewhere.

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea its hard to find since its been pulled off alot of sites due to them illegally using a foo fighters song in the trailer and foo fighters dudes were mad about it. U can probably find it somewhere. Yeah, I'll look it up.

[Kal-El 8]

I'm dying to see him in action! And I believe finally the Goblin will get the respect he deserves, after that shameful fiasco in the film. Sam Raimi should look at this show and realize how devoted fans and creators are visualizing our favorite characters.

WTF are you complaing about ? I thought Willem DeFoe was simply
magnificent as The Green Goblin in the first movie . He nailed the part dead on target Raimi remained faithful to the comic in a realistic fashion . Compared to outright abomination protraly by Julian McMahon as Victor Von Doom / Doctor Doom in the Fantastic Four series . You should be a little more greatful that at least Raimi's Goblin was at least worthy menacing advisory for Spider-Man like he is in the mythology. Unlike Story's Dr. Doom in the FF series .

http://www.xmwallpapers.com/wallpaper/movies/spider-man/images/green%20goblin.jpg
The only reason Raimi redesgined the goblin's outfit into a battle suit outfit was because realisticly the original comic book outfit would look pretty sily (almost campy on screen)
http://www.digital-images.net/Images/Universal/GreenGoblin_6096.jpg

[Spider-ManHero12]

WTF are you complaing about ? I thought Willem DeFoe was simply
magnificent as The Green Goblin in the first movie . He nailed the part dead on target Raimi remained faithful to the comic in a realistic fashion . Compared to outright abomination protraly by Julian McMahon as Victor Von Doom / Doctor Doom in the Fantastic Four series . You should be a little more greatful that at least Raimi's Goblin was at least worthy menacing advisory for Spider-Man like he is in the mythology. Unlike Story's Dr. Doom in the FF series .

http://www.xmwallpapers.com/wallpaper/movies/spider-man/images/green%20goblin.jpg
The only reason Raimi redesgined the goblin's outfit into a battle suit outfit was because realisticly the original comic book outfit would look pretty sily (almost campy on screen)
http://www.digital-images.net/Images/Universal/GreenGoblin_6096.jpg I completely agree and very well said, Kal-El 8! :up:

[Kal-El 8]

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I mean look at this we got a homage to this issue in the movie http://scifipedia.scifi.com/images/thumb/a/ab/Green-goblin-4.jpg/280px-Green-goblin-4.jpg. We got an epic Good vs. Evil showdown battle .

[Spider-ManHero12]

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I mean look at this we got a homage to this issue in the movie http://scifipedia.scifi.com/images/thumb/a/ab/Green-goblin-4.jpg/280px-Green-goblin-4.jpg. We got an epic Good vs. Evil showdown battle . Very true, and I think that maybe will get a homage in this show. I mean, not in the upcoming episode, but maybe in the 2nd or 3rd season. :up:

[Kal-El 8]

Raimi understans spidey, he did the best he could with the knowledge he has from the Golden & Silver era in the comics.

His casting of the Villain was spot on (with the exseption of Venom , I"ll get to that)

Norman Osborn / Green Goblin - Willem Dafoe

Otto Octavius / Doctor Octopus - Alfred Molina

Flint Marko / Sandman - Thomas Haden Church

Harry Osborn / New Goblin - James Franco

Now Venom (Raimi didn't quite get it , but that's because he doesn't know the
character or what make's him such a fan favorite . So he did the best he could with what he knew using Ultimate Spider-Man as his main source . with a bit of things from 616 . And The 90's animated series .) But even thought Venom didn't get the proper treament that Gobby & Doc Ock got. He still awesome eye candy on screen .

[Silver Spider]

Raimi understans spidey, he did the best he could with the knowledge he has from the Golden & Silver era in the comics.

His casting of the Villain was spot on (with the exseption of Venom , I"ll get to that)

Norman Osborn / Green Goblin - Willem Dafoe

Otto Octavius / Doctor Octopus - Alfred Molina

Flint Marko / Sandman - Thomas Haden Church

Harry Osborn / New Goblin - James Franco

Now Venom (Raimi didn't quite get it , but that's because he doesn't know the
character or what make's him such a fan favorite . So he did the best he could with what he knew using Ultimate Spider-Man as his main source . with a bit of things from 616 . And The 90's animated series .) But even thought Venom didn't get the proper treament that Gobby & Doc Ock got. He still awesome eye candy on screen .
What exactly makes him a fan favorite, in your opinion?

[Kal-El 8]

What exactly makes him a fan favorite, in your opinion?

Venom basically is Bane in the spidey mythology . Brock's a pumped up nut out for revenge . Who's got a badass costume and can do everything spidey can do only better .

[Silver Spider]

Venom basically is Bane in the spidey mythology . Brock's a pumped up nut out for revenge . Who's got a badass costume and can do everything spidey can do only better .
And that wasn't in the movie?

[Webhead2006]

yea one of the reasons venom sucked in the movie was the stuido forced raimi into using him originally it was just going to be sandman and harry. It would have been better if he just got the symboite and then venom left to be solo main villain for spiderman 4.

[sauronthegreat]

WTF are you complaing about ? I thought Willem DeFoe was simply
magnificent as The Green Goblin in the first movie . He nailed the part dead on target Raimi remained faithful to the comic in a realistic fashion . Compared to outright abomination protraly by Julian McMahon as Victor Von Doom / Doctor Doom in the Fantastic Four series . You should be a little more greatful that at least Raimi's Goblin was at least worthy menacing advisory for Spider-Man like he is in the mythology. Unlike Story's Dr. Doom in the FF series .

http://www.xmwallpapers.com/wallpaper/movies/spider-man/images/green%20goblin.jpg
The only reason Raimi redesgined the goblin's outfit into a battle suit outfit was because realisticly the original comic book outfit would look pretty sily (almost campy on screen)
http://www.digital-images.net/Images/Universal/GreenGoblin_6096.jpg

Oh but that picture, at the bottom, is ridiculous. That's just some fan in a homemade costume. You can't compare that costume with a costume produced by a billion-budget film. Spider-Man didn't look stupid and yet he did wore a spandex costume. Dafoe really brought the character of Norman Osborn to perfection, but when he wore the costume he looked stupid, especially when his eye lids opened and his mouth was visible. Dafoe more resembled a Goblin when he didn't ware that costume. His acting was superb, but that can't be shown by showing his eyes, that was stupid. A really capable actors show their talents and make their characters through their voice and oral capabilities, like Edward Norton as King Baldwin in "Kingdom of Heaven" or Hugo Weaving in "V for vendetta". I blame the designers that came with that awful idea and more I hate Raimi for accepting and encouraging it. I can't even compare anything with the Fantastic Four film, because that film doesn't deserve my attention, yet Spider-Man proved that it can achieve some greatness with the sequel, whereas Fantastic Four sank even lower with it's sequel.
Goblin would have perfectly worked if his mask was designed by WETA, the Orcs in The Lord of the Rings were more than realistic even though they wore masks, it can be achieved. Give the film more darker elements and that Goblin would have fitted perfectly and stay true to his character. He is a Goblin after all, not a cyber-ninja in a shiny green suit.

[Kal-El 8]

And that wasn't in the movie?

Yes & No , The overall concept of Venom was their. However The
character devlopment from Brock to Venom was sadly lacking . But I still enjoyed myself I thought Topher was pretty good as The Dark Spider-Man . Basically we got Brock as Spidey (in the Venom Suit) with the morality of Peter Parker that makes Spidey the Hero he is .

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can't wait to see what the Green Goblin says to Spidey and how different he is than the other Villians that Spidey has faced.

[Web-Head]

Oh but that picture, at the bottom, is ridiculous. That's just some fan in a homemade costume. You can't compare that costume with a costume produced by a billion-budget film. Spider-Man didn't look stupid and yet he did wore a spandex costume. Dafoe really brought the character of Norman Osborn to perfection, but when he wore the costume he looked stupid, especially when his eye lids opened and his mouth was visible. Dafoe more resembled a Goblin when he didn't ware that costume. His acting was superb, but that can't be shown by showing his eyes, that was stupid. A really capable actors show their talents and make their characters through their voice and oral capabilities, like Edward Norton as King Baldwin in "Kingdom of Heaven" or Hugo Weaving in "V for vendetta". I blame the designers that came with that awful idea and more I hate Raimi for accepting and encouraging it. I can't even compare anything with the Fantastic Four film, because that film doesn't deserve my attention, yet Spider-Man proved that it can achieve some greatness with the sequel, whereas Fantastic Four sank even lower with it's sequel.
Goblin would have perfectly worked if his mask was designed by WETA, the Orcs in The Lord of the Rings were more than realistic even though they wore masks, it can be achieved. Give the film more darker elements and that Goblin would have fitted perfectly and stay true to his character. He is a Goblin after all, not a cyber-ninja in a shiny green suit.

Actually, that's not a fanmade suit. It's from some musical thing a few years back at Universal, Spider-Man Rocks, I believe it was called.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Actually, that's not a fanmade suit. It's from some musical thing a few years back at Universal, Spider-Man Rocks, I believe it was called. Yeah, that's what it's called. :up:

[Spectacular23]

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[Silver Spider]

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[Spider-ManHero12]

this has nothing to do with THIS but anybody seen this:

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Yes, there's a thread on it in the Spidey-World section.

[Spectacular23]

Yes, there's a thread on it in the Spidey-World section.


yea i saw tht right after i post it dnt worry i'll edit it

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea i saw tht right after i post it dnt worry i'll edit it Okay, cool. :up:

[THE LIZARD#1]

I just realized this isn't going to air this saturday! WTF, why are they doing the every other week thing.

This is pissing me off! :cmad:

[Spider-ManHero12]

I just realized this isn't going to air this saturday! WTF, why are they doing the every other week thing.

This is pissing me off! :cmad: As I've said a few times, it's better than waiting a month.

[THE LIZARD#1]

As I've said a few times, it's better than waiting a month.

Either way i'm waiting, but true. :O

Thanks for putting me back in line. :cwink:

[Sarcastic Fan]

I just realized this isn't going to air this saturday! WTF, why are they doing the every other week thing.

This is pissing me off! :cmad:

Because the episodes are in post production and still not 100% complete. That's why.

[Illusion Master]

Waitings still the same, dull and time consuming.However most have things to do in the meantime, so I'll be playing VG's and looking into buying an N64.Also...hmm....this episode looks rather interesting, and sounds better then the previous ones.

[THE LIZARD#1]

Because the episodes are in post production and still not 100% complete. That's why.

OH:o

Then nvm, I don't blame them. I didn't know that, see I thought all the episodes were done like the Batman and TAS Spider-man.

Okay thanks for answering my question. :D

[Spider-ManHero12]

Either way i'm waiting, but true. :O

Thanks for putting me back in line. :cwink: No problem. :yay:

[Webhead2006]

Yea its been stated a few times they are still currently doing post production work on the remaining season 1 episodes while voice work is currently happening with season 2 and animation to be done in the coming months.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea its been stated a few times they are still currently doing post production work on the remaining season 1 episodes while voice work is currently happening with season 2 and animation to be done in the coming months. Yeah, and I'm defenitley willing to wait. :up:

[Webhead2006]

yea i can wait but i do wish they had all the episodes ready to go when the show started but i do understand shows animated or live action do take alot of time and all that so everything is all set and ready to go.

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea i can wait but i do wish they had all the episodes ready to go when the show started but i do understand shows animated or live action do take alot of time and all that so everything is all set and ready to go. Agreed, As I've said once bofore, I'd rather wait and have an amazing show rather than rushing and having a poor show.

[Webhead2006]

Yea and Greg and everyone on the show have been doing great work and in my mind its one of the best spidey shows of all time.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea and Greg and everyone on the show have been doing great work and in my mind its one of the best spidey shows of all time. Agreed, I respect everything Greg and everybody else involved with the show has done.

[Webhead2006]

Yea and i hope it stays this way throught the series run, hopefully who ever picks it up for season 2 and on sees the show is good how it is and doesnt try to interfer with the way the show is.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea and i hope it stays this way throught the series run, hopefully who ever picks it up for season 2 and on sees the show is good how it is and doesnt try to interfer with the way the show is. Agreed, this show is fine the way it is. :up:

[Webhead2006]

Yea and hopefully what ever network picks up season 2+ sees that and doesnt try to mess it up.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea and hopefully what ever network picks up season 2+ sees that and doesnt try to mess it up. Very true, I really hope they don't.

[DOG LIPS]

These new?

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/media/gallery/goblin01.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/18/goblin1.htm

[Gallagher]

New to me! :eek:

Loving Gobby's look.

[Spider-ManHero12]

These new?

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/media/gallery/goblin01.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/18/goblin1.htm Wow! Those are fantastic pictures! :wow::up:

[Kal-El 8]

These new?

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/media/gallery/goblin01.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/18/goblin1.htm

It looks like gobby's going to crash The Midtown High Fall Formal party . :wow::woot:

[Odin's Lapdog]

still not sold on gobby's design, will have to see it in fluid motion to see if it works

[Spider-ManHero12]

It looks like gobby's going to crash The Midtown High Fall Formal party . :wow::woot: Yeah, that is jsut so badass!