First look at G.I. Joe's Scarlett.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/meet-g-i-joe-s-scarlett-4452

http://i26.tinypic.com/k31y6e.jpg

[Rocker22]

I like it.

[Gotham]

Not bad. Not bad at all.

[powerbomb1411]

I find it entertaining that she made sure to give us pouty lips.

JoBlo has the first look at G.I. Joe's Scarlett. Is it just me or is Scarlett wearing almost the same suit Snake Eyes was kind of wearing? Black body armor that looks like a cross between Starship Troopers and a Cirque du Soleil Chinese acrobat outfit? I'm hoping these guys aren't going to all look like Brett Ratner's retarded circus version of X-Men villains.

What? He does know there were two X-men films before that where they had matching outfits right? hell, they added a bit of color to them in X-3.

[SWAT]

Like what I've seen so far. I hope the movie is good.

[DorkyFresh]

i hope they don't make them ALL wear black suits. hopefully this isn't the only suit she wears. i like it, but it's not very faithful.

[The Avatar]

it's at joblo aswell:

http://www.joblo.com/

[Raiden]

While Scarlette looks sexy in this bodysuit, I think she looks too similar to Snakeyes, and I was hoping for some individualism and not uniforms like X-Men. I hope Duke et al. will not look likewise.

[Neto Magnus]

G.I. Hooooooooooo! Nice. It could use some color but oh well.

[Sawyer]

I like it. Not a big GI Joe fanatic, so maybe I'm not the best judge, but I think it looks alright.

[KALEL114]

Hot.

[Cagefighterkip]

i never watched gi joe as a kid, but damn the suits and logo and everything ive seen with snake eyes (is that his name?) looks fantastic... and w/no emotional connection from anything from my youth... i think this could rock...

[terry78]

Just to compare, this is how she looks in contrast to the actual character.

http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/scarlettdec-inside.jpg
http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/scarlettbigwhite.gif

http://images.comiccollectorlive.com/B2226805-A86F-483F-8175-0250E053F475/795A2600-9F06-460C-9996-D131F2A1DC47/B152FAF8-CE4C-40DA-A2E0-521EB3B42FAC.jpg

[samsnee]

she's hot, but if you showed me that pic without telling me it's Scarlett, i wouldn't guess it was her.

[tyler-durden]

I like that they are trying to make the film realistic but I was kind of hoping for individual looks for each character, still can't wait to see who's next.

[zeptron]

ooh nice.

[Dr. Fate]

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/meet-g-i-joe-s-scarlett-4452

http://i26.tinypic.com/k31y6e.jpg
Cool. Nice ass. Very nice ass.

[forsakenfilmz]

There needs to be more color period. There she's looking like Cobra. She is gonna look like Baroness with red hair and no glasses. There military for godsakes. Snake Eyes is right on. I have supported Joe since 83 and my company is starting a fan film GiJoe End of Peace fan film, so Scarlett needs more color. Let's call it X-men 4 Non-Mutants. I'm pissed.!!

[NoirMan82]

Papa like! I'm glad they got away from the cartoon look. I love GI Joe always, but those outfits would NEVER be worn by real military personel. I think this look is a little too "high-speed", to use a military term, I was hoping for something more traditional, but I can't argue when she looks so hot.

[NoirMan82]

There needs to be more color period. There she's looking like Cobra. She is gonna look like Baroness with red hair and no glasses. There military for godsakes. Snake Eyes is right on. I have supported Joe since 83 and my company is starting a fan film GiJoe End of Peace fan film, so Scarlett needs more color. Let's call it X-men 4 Non-Mutants. I'm pissed.!!
A purple unitard wouldn't quite fit a military look. This has more of a black ops feel to it. I'd laugh if I saw SEALS or SWAT members running around in colorful garb. Where X-Men didn't have to do all black, a covert military force would absolutely have to.

[Golgo-13]

Cool. Nice ass. Very nice ass.

Co-sign. :up:

[Midnhtsun]

Good design I like it, granted we have only seen two characters but I hope they are not all wearing black, yea it is more appropriate but the all the characters from the show were so different, I dont think it will feel the same if they all dress alike.

[Iron Fist]

I like it. :up:

By the way, I had no idea Hunter posted the pic. I found the hi-res version on justjared.

[Gatchamanjp]

Rachel Nichols as Scarlett is absoulutely perfect casting, and the PVC suit she is wearing shows how well rounded an actress she is.

[DJ Kornphlake]

Looks more like the Baroness than Scarlett to me.

[phoenixflight]

Absolutely sexy!!!

Yeah, I would have loved it with a bit more color, but if Sommers is trying to place this movie in the 'real world' then it is perfectly fine and more realistic.

It reminds me of Cyclops' comment to Wolverine from the first X-Men movie..."What, you would prefer yellow spandex?!" Her orange/grey look works in comics, but I prefer this translation.

[Venom]

If Scarlett looks like this, what will Baroness look like?

[nieman]

They could've easily made the suit grey instead of black and had gold colored plates and red shoulders. Add some color please.

[powerbomb1411]

Damn, it was just pointed out to me. Guess now we know Black Widow should look very nice on the big screen.

[Sand-Saref]

I like what I see

[TheVileOne]

Basically looks like her Sigma Six uniform without any color. So they are all going for the black leather/rubber/spandex body armor look.

Hopefully Storm Shadow will at least look cool as well.

I'm still worried about the lack of a Snake Eyes/Scarlett romantic pairing.

[Balthus Dire]

It looks good, but it doesn't much look like Scarlett. If she's the only Joe with a generic costume I can live with that, but I hope we don't get an entire team of black-leather Joes.

[DOG LIPS]

HOT. :up:

[JokerJr.]

Cool. Nice ass. Very nice ass.
exactly what i was thinking.

hot redhead in tight suit:wow:

[Nightmare]

sexy

[M.O.Steel]

its' obviously a very sexy picture, but considering how good/faithful snake eyes was, i'm a little disappointed.

[nightwing06]

Oh she is smoking hot.They used the same design but its in black,and thats fine with me

[DoctorJones]

I think it's a good translation, Rachel Nichols looks like Scarlett. And I concur with Dr. Fate, "look at the curves on that vessel".

[Synthoid Dealer]

This isn't the costume she'll be wearing the entire movie. It's just her version of the "power suit" that all the Joes will use in a battle scene. We'll probably get an outfit closer to the Scarlett we're all used to seeing. . .

[zanos]

Honestly who cares? G.I. Joe was nothing more than a cartoon made purely to sell action figures. It never trancended it's purpose unlike Transformers. The fact that it's a woman with red hair playing Scarlett should be good enough. Rachel actually looks quite good as she always does. I just don't know how she'll play the tough chick role.

Btw the comparisons to the X-Men suits made by alot of ppl is insulting to the costume designer on this film. The X-Men suits were basically his and hers leather jackets with matching pants and stitched on shoulder and leg pads. Singer and his team have the creativity and imagination of garbage men.

[TheVileOne]

You know Marvel publishes comic books to make money right Zanos. And zillions of action figures, toys, and pieces of merchandise.

What's so creative about this costume compared to Matrix or X-men costumes?

You are a weird person Zanos. You seem to hate and insult GI JOE then you go around and talk about how you like how the movie looks and defend the honor of the costume designers against anyone who dares compare it to the X-men movies.

[Mercurius]

Everybody saying it's sexy.

That's obvious, isn't it? Did anybody ever thought it wouldn't be sexy?

The point is: this IS NOT Scarlett. It's just a hot redhead in SWAT team outfit. :whatever:

People look at a pic of a hot girl and forget completely what they were talking about: "WOW, hot chick! I like it. But... but who was she supposed to be?" :oldrazz:

[Midnhtsun]

Everybody saying it's sexy.

That's obvious, isn't it? Did anybody ever thought it wouldn't be sexy?

The point is: this IS NOT Scarlett. It's just a hot redhead in SWAT team outfit. :whatever:

People look at a pic of a hot girl and forget completely what they were talking about: "WOW, hot chick! I like it. But... but who was she supposed to be?" :oldrazz:

No no your wrong she does have a crossbow!

only kidding, I do agree with the point you make, someone mentioned that this might just be a battle uniform like in sigma six, hopefully so cause this isn't scarlet.

[Lobo]

Not very faithful, but she looks sexy as hell I like but don't love it

[Philly Phanboy]

Two thumbs down from me too.

Other than having a crossbow and red hair this isn't what Scarlett should look like. Even the Sigma 6 version (which this design is obviously based on) had a more distinctive look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Target-33/Temp/_index.jpg

[amazingfantasy15]

To everyone wanting a more faithful translation of the costume, check out Street Fighter the movie, by the end of the movie everyone was in their familar video game costume and you know what, it was cheesy as hell. I like this costume, sure it isn't Snake Eyes faithful, but still looks really good and just what I'd think a special ops branch of the military would wear.

Also, watching Rachel Nichols in Alias I can definitely see her in this role.

[Mercurius]

To everyone wanting a more faithful translation of the costume, check out Street Fighter the movie, by the end of the movie everyone was in their familar video game costume and you know what, it was cheesy as hell. I like this costume, sure it isn't Snake Eyes faithful, but still looks really good and just what I'd think a special ops branch of the military would wear.

Also, watching Rachel Nichols in Alias I can definitely see her in this role.


The mere invention of a group like GI Joe is, by definition, cheesy. :oldrazz:

Trying to make it "serious", "dark", "realistic" are just fat excuses for people not to get embarassed in confessing: "You know, I like it the way it is".

This cinema cliché is already killing the genre with utter repetition and boring pics. The Spirit dresses black, Scarlett dresses black, Wolverine dresses black. :whatever:

It's unbearable. They have no distinct features because directors and technical crew are too lazy or too unimaginative and can't make an effort to bring it alive like Spider-Man or Hellboy.

It's just cheap, a convention, a cliché. Rachel is nice and hot, but her outfit is just NOT-SCARLETT.

And more: this clearly debases the visual impact of Snake-Eyes. Silence and black with no face, now he's just "the uniform" of the gang. That's crap. :cmad:

[terry78]

I think each of their uniforms should have their own little personal touch, just to differentiate. If this is for a total team battle going on where they ALL have to be in black, fine. But her outfit should have like a little something extra on it.

[Mikelus]

I'm tired of all this nonsense of "she's not Scarlett 'cause the outfit is different from the cartoon, blah blah blah......"

Get real, she's a redhead and has the crossbow, part of what the Scarlett character is supposed to be. People have to stop wanting to see a cartoon on live action, is just retarded to do that, they have to ADAPT the material for the movies, they can't copy everything from the cartoons or comics for the simple fact that it would look too cheesy and stupid, military characters wearing bright coloured outfits? Dumb!
Also, the people comparing it to the X-Men outfits, hello! The outfits from the X-Men were different, they were leather style, Scarlett has more of a protection gear jacket, with straps over her shoulders and pads protecting different parts of her body.

Is just logical they change some details, fanboys are not enough to make a profit, they have to make it appealing enough for the general public so the movie has the best chance of being successful, that's how it works, some seem to live on their own little world disconnected from reality.

[Rac]

Rachel Nichols: bojoing!

[Sand-Saref]

I'm tired of all this nonsense of "she's not Scarlett 'cause the outfit is different from the cartoon, blah blah blah......"

Get real, she's a redhead and has the crossbow, part of what the Scarlett character is supposed to be. People have to stop wanting to see a cartoon on live action, is just retarded to do that, they have to ADAPT the material for the movies, they can't copy everything from the cartoons or comics for the simple fact that it would look too cheesy and stupid, military characters wearing bright coloured outfits? Dumb!
Also, the people comparing it to the X-Men outfits, hello! The outfits from the X-Men were different, they were leather style, Scarlett has more of a protection gear jacket, with straps over her shoulders and pads protecting different parts of her body.

Is just logical they change some details, fanboys are not enough to make a profit, they have to make it appealing enough for the general public so the movie has the best chance of being successful, that's how it works, some seem to live on their own little world disconnected from reality.

I agree :woot:

[thegameq]

its' obviously a very sexy picture, but considering how good/faithful snake eyes was, i'm a little disappointed.

Very ditto. Is this supposed to be a fantasy film or are they going to put restraints on the creativity with the god forsaken realism angle? God not the black rubber/leather uniform look for everyone again.

I'm really beginning to hate Hollywood when it comes to fantasy films.

[Midnhtsun]

I get your point Mikelus, the only problem I have with the costumes is that they could have included more color to them. The current one look fairly similar to those in the sigma six but all black, throwing some color in there would greatly help the characters to feel more like their animated counter parts.

[DorkyFresh]

once again, i'm hoping this isn't her main suit but if it is....if they had colored the suit a dark brown or added hints of brown then it wouldn't be so bad, but if they continue to give more characters all black suits then it will be stripping away their individuality from a visual standpoint. like 'Venom' posted earlier.....if Scarlett looks like this, what is the Baroness gonna look like?

[ANTOINE X]

Nope! I don't agree at all. Theres nothing foolish about this outfit. They can dot it if they want but again too lazy to try. Look I don't want a SWAT team all in black . And one of the good things beside the actions and the story line it s their costumes. Each character is unique. They have different outfit and weaponry. And scarlet is not snake eyes so no need to be in black.

http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/scarlettbigwhite.gif

[Philly Phanboy]

I'm tired of all this nonsense of "she's not Scarlett 'cause the outfit is different from the cartoon, blah blah blah......"

Get real, she's a redhead and has the crossbow, part of what the Scarlett character is supposed to be. People have to stop wanting to see a cartoon on live action, is just retarded to do that, they have to ADAPT the material for the movies, they can't copy everything from the cartoons or comics for the simple fact that it would look too cheesy and stupid, military characters wearing bright coloured outfits? Dumb!
Also, the people comparing it to the X-Men outfits, hello! The outfits from the X-Men were different, they were leather style, Scarlett has more of a protection gear jacket, with straps over her shoulders and pads protecting different parts of her body.

Is just logical they change some details, fanboys are not enough to make a profit, they have to make it appealing enough for the general public so the movie has the best chance of being successful, that's how it works, some seem to live on their own little world disconnected from reality.

I don't think anybody was realistically expecting they'd go with Scarlett's oldschool yellow gloves and boots combination.

What's wrong with the design is that it is completely generic and void of any originality. Red hair and crossbow is the only thing they carried over from her character and after that the creativity went out the window. Heck more thought probably goes into designing the outfits for the models on the Action Girls website. :oldrazz:

This could be ANY character ie Black Widow/Baroness/Kim Possible.

[Kokoryu1]

I don't think anybody was realistically expecting they'd go with Scarlett's oldschool yellow gloves and boots combination.

What's wrong with the design is that it is completely generic and void of any originality. Red hair and crossbow is the only thing they carried over from her character and after that the creativity went out the window. Heck more thought probably goes into designing the outfits for the models on the Action Girls website. :oldrazz:

This could be ANY character ie Black Widow/Baroness/Kim Possible.[/quote]

BINGO! Smartest thing said all frakkin day since this pic posted! Thanks dude!

[Mr. Wiener]

*DROOLS* :wow: Cant wait for this movie!

[SHADOWBAT69]

She's hot, but I dont like this outfit she's in. Theres no "character" to it.

[YoJoeScarlett]

I don't think anybody was realistically expecting they'd go with Scarlett's oldschool yellow gloves and boots combination.

What's wrong with the design is that it is completely generic and void of any originality. Red hair and crossbow is the only thing they carried over from her character and after that the creativity went out the window. Heck more thought probably goes into designing the outfits for the models on the Action Girls website. :oldrazz:

This could be ANY character ie Black Widow/Baroness/Kim Possible.

Ya but the main features of the charter are there red hair heck even the ponytail from the cartoon, crossbow, green eyes to me this screams Scarlett besides its her power suite I doubt she will be in it the whole time. I'm amazed at how many people don't like how she looks.

[Prefix]

Okay, I'm not familiar with G.I.Joe at all, and I just came here because this costume was mentioned on the TDK boards. And I'm baffled that anyone can say that the original costume couldn't be translated on screen. It's denim blue and tan. It is hardly gaudy like Superman's or Spider-Man's costumes.

So, I agree that the all-black costume is just another hollywood convention that lazy costume designers stick to.

[CEREBRAL....]

This isn't the costume she'll be wearing the entire movie. It's just her version of the "power suit" that all the Joes will use in a battle scene. We'll probably get an outfit closer to the Scarlett we're all used to seeing. . .


^^If that's the case then i'm all for it...:up:

but if not...then i'm with everyone that thinks the colors should stay faithful to the cartoon and comic....:up:

[YoJoeScarlett]

Okay, I'm not familiar with G.I.Joe at all, and I just came here because this costume was mentioned on the TDK boards. And I'm baffled that anyone can say that the original costume couldn't be translated on screen. It's denim blue and tan. It is hardly gaudy like Superman's or Spider-Man's costumes.

So, I agree that the all-black costume is just another hollywood convention that lazy costume designers stick to.

Well in the real world if you don't want to get your a** shot off go with black I think this would keep you better hidden then a "denium blue and tan.

[Prefix]

Well in the real world if you don't want to get your a** shot off go with black I think this would keep you better hidden then a "denium blue and tan.Well, thank god Scarlett doesn't exist in the real world then!

[Balthus Dire]

I'll betcha she wears a denim jacket with a tanned shirt underneath at some point in the movie as her "street clothes". ;)

[Philly Phanboy]

Okay, I'm not familiar with G.I.Joe at all, and I just came here because this costume was mentioned on the TDK boards. And I'm baffled that anyone can say that the original costume couldn't be translated on screen. It's denim blue and tan. It is hardly gaudy like Superman's or Spider-Man's costumes.

So, I agree that the all-black costume is just another hollywood convention that lazy costume designers stick to.

Is it any wonder that G.I. Joe's costume designer also worked on Starship Troopers? Talk about recycling ideas. :whatever:

[YoJoeScarlett]

I'll betcha she wears a denim jacket with a tanned shirt underneath at some point in the movie as her "street clothes". ;)

Or maybe for training.

[YoJoeScarlett]

Well, thank god Scarlett doesn't exist in the real world then!

So what do you mean have her be an open target just cuz she not a real character.

[Prefix]

So what do you mean have her be an open target just cuz she not a real character.
Well obviously because shes a main character in a movie she isn't going to be killed. She'll survive the same way James Bond survives in his tux.

[Kokoryu1]

Well in the real world if you don't want to get your a** shot off go with black I think this would keep you better hidden then a "denium blue and tan. Sorry Dude but in the real world Spec ops and Tactical teams including SWAT dont usually wear black, even for night ops. Black stands out. Dark Grey Green Or dark blue are preferred colors. Don't believe me? Turn off the lights in a room and put something relatively large and completely black in there and youu'll pick it out every time. Shadows aren't black. Even Ninjas understood this concept millenia ago. Now you know and knowing is........ I can't finish that comment, It's too Cliche' kinda like her outfit.

[Prefix]

Sorry Dude but in the real world Spec ops and Tactical teams including SWAT dont usually wear black, even for night ops. Black stands out. Dark Grey Green Or dark blue are preferred colors. Don't believe me? Turn off the lights in a room and put something relatively large and completely black in there and youu'll pick it out every time. Shadows aren't black.That room analogy isn't great, because nothing is visible in a pitch black room, but yes you are absolutely correct otherwise. In a typical night/dark situation there is usually some light. So, black would stand out more.

[YoJoeScarlett]

Sorry Dude but in the real world Spec ops and Tactical teams including SWAT dont usually wear black, even for night ops. Black stands out. Dark Grey Green Or dark blue are preferred colors. Don't believe me? Turn off the lights in a room and put something relatively large and completely black in there and youu'll pick it out every time. Shadows aren't black. Even Ninjas understood this concept millenia ago. Now you know and knowing is........ I can't finish that comment, It's too Cliche' kinda like her outfit.

I'm saying black is the best option but it's better then denium blue and tan. I mean come on.

[Prefix]

I'm saying black is the best option but it's better then denium blue and tan. I mean come on.
For a real-life SWAT member, yes. For a fictional character, its perfectly acceptable to wear denim blue and tan.

[Kokoryu1]

For a real-life SWAT member, yes. For a fictional character, its perfectly acceptable to wear denim blue and tan.

I'm sure they could have dulled the color scheme down to something more conventional, more in line with her color scheme. More Sigma Sux pandering to the 5 year old public from Hollywoood.

[M.O.Steel]

they could keep the same suit and make some parts more lighter brown.

[Jamie Madrox]

I think the costume looks alright, and Rachel looks great, but it doesn't scream Scarlett to me. I don't like the black, wish it had more color.

It actually reminds me of Joanna Dark from the 'Perfect Dark' video games.

Oh well, I'm not going to nit pick at it, 'cause I know Rachel's gonna kick arse no matter how she's dressed.

[Denny67]

I don’t think anybody expected the “old school outfit” but the same old batman, x-men black leather design is just tired. I swear they have a Hollywood just cranking these outfits out for everything…probably shipped in from India by the crate load.
When making movies like this, you need creative minds with awesome ideas that blow you away. Taking a “concept” and making it work for film and paying attention to every detail.
This approach to costumes is, old tired and lazy. “Oh I am incapable of doing something creative so I just made it black.”
How they got Snake Eyes so right and this so wrong is beyond me.

[Kokoryu1]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/lives-costume.jpg
Those in charge are changing too much of the characters personas. The Supeman pic above is what the studios wanted to go with in Superman returns. Only with this costume Supes could pull blades out of and use them to fight. Not the superman you know huh? Would you have gone to see it had you known this? They changed it after showing it around a few times and got overwhelming negative feedback. Sometimes the outfit is almost as important as the character.

[the_ultimate_evil]

hmm looks like it could be an whole uniform thing

http://www.themovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/joe-and-scarlet-suitsmed.jpg

[YoJoeScarlett]

they could keep the same suit and make some parts more lighter brown.

I would like that.

[Heretic]

Rachel is hot...super hot.

However, that is not Scarlet. Thats a random spy/swat member/whatever.

I understand that its based off of Sigma 6...but uh...does anyone actually buy the Sigma 6 stuff? Why is so much of this movie based around that instead of the classic Joe look and characters?

Im disappointed...though Ive been disappointed with just about everything from this movie so far.

[Synthoid Dealer]

Well obviously because shes a main character in a movie she isn't going to be killed.
You shouldn't post things like this if you haven't read the script. . .

[Kokoryu1]

I understand that its based off of Sigma 6...but uh...does anyone actually buy the Sigma 6 stuff? Why is so much of this movie based around that instead of the classic Joe look and characters?

Im disappointed...though Ive been disappointed with just about everything from this movie so far.

Accoirding to Wikipedia: 2007 saw the rebranding of the 8" line. The Sigma Six branding was dropped in the spring of 2007. Since that time, new figures have been branded as simply G.I. Joe and divided into differently packaged sub-groups such as Combat Squad, Commandos, and Adventure Team. The entire 8" scale was cancelled by the end of 2007.

No one buys that Sigma 6 Garbage. Got to any store I.E. Toy's R Us, Target, Walmart...etc. and you'll see Sigma 6 stuff sitting on the shelves.Good luck trying to find 25th anniversary figures like Serpentor, Stalker, Flint, Beachhead and Comic 2 pack Wild Weasel and Ace. It's about money. Not about fanbase. If they made the movie according to the comics or the cartoon only us fanboys and girls would go see it. No Cash there.

[Mercurius]

I'm tired of all this nonsense of "she's not Scarlett 'cause the outfit is different from the cartoon, blah blah blah......"

Get real, she's a redhead and has the crossbow, part of what the Scarlett character is supposed to be. People have to stop wanting to see a cartoon on live action, is just retarded to do that, they have to ADAPT the material for the movies, they can't copy everything from the cartoons or comics for the simple fact that it would look too cheesy and stupid, military characters wearing bright coloured outfits? Dumb!
Also, the people comparing it to the X-Men outfits, hello! The outfits from the X-Men were different, they were leather style, Scarlett has more of a protection gear jacket, with straps over her shoulders and pads protecting different parts of her body.

Is just logical they change some details, fanboys are not enough to make a profit, they have to make it appealing enough for the general public so the movie has the best chance of being successful, that's how it works, some seem to live on their own little world disconnected from reality.

Let's put some order in this jumble of hatred against your fellows, fanboy. :grin:

1) If that was so stupid as you say, it would have never existed. If it exists, it's through a thing called "fantasy", that takes place in comic books and cinema as well;

2) It's like the X-Men and Batbot indeed, because it keeps going into this unimaginative and quite lazy way the industry found of getting loads of superhero generics out in the market:

"make them all black and say it's for the sake of adapting the source material, that we'll keep the spirit, or something of that sort. Realism, whatever. Just wrap the hot chick in black and they'll drool and forget. They're goddamm teens.".

3) If the last part of your rant is true, then why worrying about superhero flicks, anyway? I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

So, when you say "cheesy", think again. People dig it with no problem. And Scarlett would be much better in her classic outfit than in this generic übercrap.

[Kokoryu1]

Let's put some order in this jumble of hatred against your fellows, fanboy. :grin:

1) If that was so stupid as you say, it would have never existed. If it exists, it's through a thing called "fantasy", that takes place in comic books and cinema as well;

2) It's like the X-Men and Batbot indeed, because it keeps going into this unimaginative and quite lazy way the industry found of getting loads of superhero generics out in the market:

"make them all black and say it's for the sake of adapting the source material, that we'll keep the spirit, or something of that sort. Realism, whatever. Just wrap the hot chick in black and they'll drool and forget. They're goddamm teens.".

3) If the last part of your rant is true, then why worrying about superhero flicks, anyway? I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

So, when you say "cheesy", think again. People dig it with no problem. And Scarlett would be much better in her classic outfit than in this generic übercrap.

WHOO HOOO! MERCURIUS ROCKS!!!!!!!! Change isn't always for the better!

[nieman]

If anything, most of the Joe's uniforms translates to live-action almost better than any other series. Most of them wear standard green military pants and brown, green or blue shirts. It's not like they were doing Lifeline, or trying to translate Torpedo, Quick Kick or Barbecue, these are easily characters to keep familiar.

All they had to do was make the suit dark grey instead of black, and change the padded parts to gold....maybe give her gold gloves, but that would be reaching. Then it would be a perfect rendition. But I think they got happy with the response from Snake Eyes and were like "lets make them all black. They are teenagers and "fanboys", so as long as she looks sexy, they won't notice". If I see Duke or Storm Shadow in all black, I'm gonna flip. And what color will Destro, Baroness, Zartan & Cobra Commander be in?

[DoctorJones]

I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

I reckon Superman, Iron Man, Spider-Man et al. easily have more interesting costumes than Batman, X-Men or G.I. Joe. That's why I don't made changes to that lot.

[YoJoeScarlett]

If anything, most of the Joe's uniforms translates to live-action almost better than any other series. Most of them wear standard green military pants and brown, green or blue shirts. It's not like they were doing Lifeline, or trying to translate Torpedo, Quick Kick or Barbecue, these are easily characters to keep familiar.

All they had to do was make the suit dark grey instead of black, and change the padded parts to gold....maybe give her gold gloves, but that would be reaching. Then it would be a perfect rendition. But I think they got happy with the response from Snake Eyes and were like "lets make them all black. They are teenagers and "fanboys", so as long as she looks sexy, they won't notice". If I see Duke or Storm Shadow in all black, I'm gonna flip. And what color will Destro, Baroness, Zartan & Cobra Commander be in?

I'm sure they had Scarletts costume done the same time Sanke eyes was done.

[Chris B]

I think it works. Though I think the argument that it should have more color is a valid one. Maybe just some blue as a homage to the original suit, but this still works regardless.

[Balthus Dire]

hmm looks like it could be an whole uniform thing

http://www.themovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/joe-and-scarlet-suitsmed.jpg


Am I the only one that noticed this post? Cause if it's true, that really sucks.

[thegameq]

Let's put some order in this jumble of hatred against your fellows, fanboy. :grin:

1) If that was so stupid as you say, it would have never existed. If it exists, it's through a thing called "fantasy", that takes place in comic books and cinema as well;

2) It's like the X-Men and Batbot indeed, because it keeps going into this unimaginative and quite lazy way the industry found of getting loads of superhero generics out in the market:

"make them all black and say it's for the sake of adapting the source material, that we'll keep the spirit, or something of that sort. Realism, whatever. Just wrap the hot chick in black and they'll drool and forget. They're goddamm teens.".

3) If the last part of your rant is true, then why worrying about superhero flicks, anyway? I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

So, when you say "cheesy", think again. People dig it with no problem. And Scarlett would be much better in her classic outfit than in this generic übercrap.



The whole "general audience and realism" argument is really lame and old. General audiences love far out fantasy films as much as fanboys and have proven it time and time again with their wallets.

The general audience and realism argument is really nothing more than an excuse for the studios to avoid as much risk ($$$$$) as possible by not going out on a limb in the creativity department. What is the point of aquiring the license to fantasy material if you don't want to take some degree of creative risks? The two practically go hand in hand.

[YoJoeScarlett]

Am I the only one that noticed this post? Cause if it's true, that really sucks.

What sucks about the pic looks like body armor.

[zanos]

You know Marvel publishes comic books to make money right Zanos. And zillions of action figures, toys, and pieces of merchandise.

What's so creative about this costume compared to Matrix or X-men costumes?


The action figures made by marvel are a result of the success of the comic books which spawned great characters and stories. Unlike G.I. Joe they were not created with the express purpose and intent of selling anything other than work within those pages. I would be fine with the G.I. Joe cartoon if they had at least tried to be creative with their stories but that simply wasn't the case. Even as a child I felt insulted watching it.


You are a weird person Zanos. You seem to hate and insult GI JOE then you go around and talk about how you like how the movie looks and defend the honor of the costume designers against anyone who dares compare it to the X-men movies.

I never said I "liked" anything about G.I.Joe except the creativity that went into the costumes so far.

[Heretic]

If the only people who go see this movie are people who fondly remember the 80s toys, comics or cartoon, then this movie will be a massive juggernaut of a film.

However, if the studio keeps screwing with the source material, those fans will boycot the film to some degree and the movie wont fair as well.

The general public will go to whatever they are told is that weeks big film...if it gets good buzz then more will follow in coming weeks. If the movie craps all over the source material then it wont get good buzz.

[Soap]

Cool pic! :up:

As regards to the suits. It looks as they are going the X-Men route with this.

[gimmen64]

She looks good, I want some realism to it all. I'm looking foward to this movie.

[Cagefighterkip]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/lives-costume.jpg
Those in charge are changing too much of the characters personas. The Supeman pic above is what the studios wanted to go with in Superman returns. Only with this costume Supes could pull blades out of and use them to fight. Not the superman you know huh? Would you have gone to see it had you known this? They changed it after showing it around a few times and got overwhelming negative feedback. Sometimes the outfit is almost as important as the character.

god that is beyond awful... but its funny and cool awful; makes me wish they made a SUPERMAN 5 book with ALL the artwork and scripts of the rejected movies like JJ Abrams, McG, Kevin Smith/Burton, etc in it... thatd be a great buy... make it like a coffee table book... oops sorry, back on the subject at hand Scarlet is looks great

[Balthus Dire]

What sucks about the pic looks like body armor.


Cuz that could be Duke on the right. Which means there's a chance that all of the Joes will have this look.

[NoirMan82]

I don't know what's worse, Hollywood's "lack of imagination" for making costumes black, or fanboys complete rejection for anything that isn't a 3 color copy of what they see in a comic book or cartoon, and consequent whining even when it does (Snake-Eyes). Honestly, if the JOES wore their outdated uniforms from the comic, i'd never go see this movie. What's wrong with a covert military force wearing black? And people need to quit with the X-Men and Batman comparisons because thats just stupid and immature. None of these looks anything alike other than being black.

[Mercurius]

I reckon Superman, Iron Man, Spider-Man et al. easily have more interesting costumes than Batman, X-Men or G.I. Joe. That's why I don't made changes to that lot.


I think that colourful outfits that understand and respect the source material are due to a combination of:

a) huge media icons, it wouldn't be a good idea messing too much with it;

b) great creative team working on it without hurry things up, wanting to get it right and make history;

c) a need to hit the jackpot on every level, and not keeping only with regular (and casual) moviegoer. Also because they understand that a great movie will keep bringing money and a legion of fans, and a cheap trick disappears like smoke.

[The Avatar]

Am I the only one that noticed this post? Cause if it's true, that really sucks. no one replied to it because that pic was posted days ago.

[Crook]

I don't know what's worse, Hollywood's "lack of imagination" for making costumes black, or fanboys complete rejection for anything that isn't a 3 color copy of what they see in a comic book or cartoon, and consequent whining even when it does (Snake-Eyes). Honestly, if the JOES wore their outdated uniforms from the comic, i'd never go see this movie. What's wrong with a covert military force wearing black? And people need to quit with the X-Men and Batman comparisons because thats just stupid and immature. None of these looks anything alike other than being black.
Yeah, I feel the same. Granted, I'm not even much of a G.I. Joe fan, but I can see why all members of the same unit would have the same type of combat suits. It only makes sense.

[Mercurius]

Yeah, I feel the same. Granted, I'm not even much of a G.I. Joe fan, but I can see why all members of the same unit would have the same type of combat suits. It only makes sense.

Problem is: only making sense is for reality. Totally different from this kind of fiction.

[Mr. Credible]

Cuz that could be Duke on the right. Which means there's a chance that all of the Joes will have this look.

i thought it had already been stated (i think in that latino review script review) that towards the end, all the joes will don suits similar to the power-suit in the video game 'crisis', that make them a little stronger, faster, etc... i would imagine that's probably what we're looking at there. i forget what they said the suits were called, though.

besides, those suits already look infinitely better than the jumbled up mess that is the batman begins costume.

[Mikelus]

Bay changed a lot of things from the Transformers cartoons, fanboys bashed him and look what happened, the rest is history. (BTW, I didn't like the movie)

Fanboys are just a small minority, the general audience wants to be "entertained", they don't give a crap about Scarlett's outfit being faithful, most people don't even know who the hell is she! As long as the outfits look good, is not a problem at all, except for some fanboys.
Most people were ok with the all-black X-Men outfits, some fanboys whined as some of you are doing now, the argument is just shallow.

[nieman]

The thing is G.I. Joe is an eclectic team. All black is OK, if they were all trained and groomed together from admission to graduation, and then merged into a team. But these are people from different branches of the military, with special skills and most of their uniforms reflect their particular skill. So why the hell would a ranger wear black? Or an arctic trooper, a dessert trooper, etc. I think they have already disrespected the source material so much, that some things they have to get right. And for those who really don't care about the uniforms, or the changing of characters looks, origins, relationships, or anything else that have been compromised, what do you want to see?

[DJ Kornphlake]

I don't know what's worse, Hollywood's "lack of imagination" for making costumes black, or fanboys complete rejection for anything that isn't a 3 color copy of what they see in a comic book or cartoon, and consequent whining even when it does (Snake-Eyes). Honestly, if the JOES wore their outdated uniforms from the comic, i'd never go see this movie. What's wrong with a covert military force wearing black? And people need to quit with the X-Men and Batman comparisons because thats just stupid and immature. None of these looks anything alike other than being black.

I don't think anyone honestly wanted or expected carbon copies from the comics/cartoons; just something that at least somewhat resembles it.

Personally, I'd prefer something that doesn't require looking at the weapon she's holding to know who she is.

[Balthus Dire]

Meh. I'd rather the Joes not all wear some black leather outfit like they're super heroes or something.

[Vile]

I dont mind changing the costumes some - lets face it, some of the comic costumes are simply stupid.

That being said...they had to go black with Scarlet? Like...the Baroness' color scheme? I mean, add a Cobra logo on that and BAM, it's Baroness...

Seems very sloppy to me.

[copywrite]

you know she only wears this for like 1 scene right?

[Denny67]

I don't know what's worse, Hollywood's "lack of imagination" for making costumes black, or fanboys complete rejection for anything that isn't a 3 color copy of what they see in a comic book or cartoon, and consequent whining even when it does (Snake-Eyes). Honestly, if the JOES wore their outdated uniforms from the comic, i'd never go see this movie.

Nice try but wrong. The general consensus is that the costume is cookie cutter and does not lend any sense of the individual character that is associated with the Joe characters. Nobody is saying they want an exact remake of the 80's costumes just the black muscle suits are a lazy, lame effort and every bit as antiquated as those old 80’s designs.

What's wrong with a covert military force wearing black? And people need to quit with the X-Men and Batman comparisons because thats just stupid and immature. None of these looks anything alike other than being black.

There is noting wrong with military outfits that are black at all but black muscle suits? When was the last time you saw the US military running around looking like sudo power rangers?

Sorry, any way you cut it, that is x-men and batman rehash. There is nothing "immature" about pointing that out. At the base concept it is true “black muscle suits.”

If that was the costume for the Baroness most people would be ecstatic. So now what does the Baroness and Destro wear? Oh is is a bunch of people running around wearing black shooting at each other!

If that is the case they better bring back the old red and blue lasers. It is the only way you are going to be able to tell anybody apart. :whatever:

My only hope is that shot has some story behind it. That maybe there is a reason she is wearing “that outfit.” Maybe she is in a cobra outfit prepping for an infiltration… I doubt we will be that lucky though.

My thought... this movie is going to suck.

[Vile]

you know she only wears this for like 1 scene right?



Do we know this for a fact?

...and if true, why release a first-look shot of Scarlet in a suit she only wears for one scene?


I don't think so.

[zanos]

Nice try but wrong. The general consensus is that the costume is cookie cutter and does not lend any sense of the individual character that is associated with the Joe characters. Nobody is saying they want an exact remake of the 80's costumes just the black muscle suits are a lazy, lame effort and every bit as antiquated as those old 80’s designs.

Since the original characters themselves are so dull and one dimensional to begin with who would even care if their costumes lack individualism? For god's sake let's get some perspective here. They're making a movie based on a toyline.

[bunk]

I don't see Scarlett walking around in that black suit the entire movie. Definitely seems like an end battle suit.

[Mikelus]

My thought... this movie is going to suck.

Fact.... you're jumping to conclusions, we don't even know the reasons behind the outfit, maybe is just her battle suit, but the rest of the time she will wear something different, there could be other reasons.

Conclusion: Whining without knowing the facts sucks.

[DJ Kornphlake]

Since the original characters themselves are so dull and one dimensional to begin with who would even care if their costumes lack individualism? For god's sake let's get some perspective here. They're making a movie based on a toyline.

Then why are you even in this forum? To argue?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Hawt. I like it. Isn't Rachael the one from Alias who was in season 5?

[YoJoeScarlett]

I don't think anyone honestly wanted or expected carbon copies from the comics/cartoons; just something that at least somewhat resembles it.

Personally, I'd prefer something that doesn't require looking at the weapon she's holding to know who she is.

What about the red hair and green eyes

[Timstuff]

All I can say about the pic, is FAN FREAKIN' TASTIC! So far they've managed to keep me quite happy with the costumes. Let's hope they keep this up.

[YoJoeScarlett]

Do we know this for a fact?

...and if true, why release a first-look shot of Scarlet in a suit she only wears for one scene?


I don't think so.

Dont you know the crew like to play games with us. They get a kick seeing us fight like little bit****

[DorkyFresh]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

[DJ Kornphlake]

What about the red hair and green eyes

Cover Girl has red hair, and is also in the movie.

[DarknessOfDeath]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg
http://forums.superherohype.com/images/smilies/th_redface.gif
f***! I hit that. Hawt. http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

[terry78]

The thing about G.I. Joe and COBRA is that, aside from the foot soldier grunts, the higherups in each organization wore little things on their attire that was part of their personality almost. It was military grade, but they were able to add little touches to their suits, which is what I hope Sommers is still going to do.

[Vile]

Dont you know the crew like to play games with us. They get a kick seeing us fight like little bit****


The bastards! :cmad::woot:

[YoJoeScarlett]

Cover Girl has red hair, and is also in the movie.
Ya but come on. Cover girl has also been blond. I doubt we will see 2 red heads.

[NoirMan82]

Nice try but wrong. The general consensus is that the costume is cookie cutter and does not lend any sense of the individual character that is associated with the Joe characters. Nobody is saying they want an exact remake of the 80's costumes just the black muscle suits are a lazy, lame effort and every bit as antiquated as those old 80’s designs.



There is noting wrong with military outfits that are black at all but black muscle suits? When was the last time you saw the US military running around looking like sudo power rangers?

Sorry, any way you cut it, that is x-men and batman rehash. There is nothing "immature" about pointing that out. At the base concept it is true “black muscle suits.”

If that was the costume for the Baroness most people would be ecstatic. So now what does the Baroness and Destro wear? Oh is is a bunch of people running around wearing black shooting at each other!

If that is the case they better bring back the old red and blue lasers. It is the only way you are going to be able to tell anybody apart. :whatever:

My only hope is that shot has some story behind it. That maybe there is a reason she is wearing “that outfit.” Maybe she is in a cobra outfit prepping for an infiltration… I doubt we will be that lucky though.

My thought... this movie is going to suck.

Wrong is a matter of formulated fact, dude, not opinion. What you like or want isn't what everybody else wants. Calling this design "lazy" just because you don't like is a slap in the face to the creative team of this movie and any movie. Just using outdated and flat out tacky costumes of TOYS made 25 years ago is lazy. They're just trying to update the GI JOE concept, which is waaay overdue. And your "muscle suit" claim is also flat. Batman has a molded rubber suit, the X-Men wear leather racing-like gear, and Scarlett is wearing an armoredtacticle, textile uniform. I can't say I see soldiers wearing stuff like this (although concepts like it exist) but I also don't live in the future, where the movie takes place.

Comparing this outfit to COBRA is even misinformed because they all wore blue except the red gaurd and robots. We also don't even know if this is her full-time outfit for the film. Even saying this suit would be good for Baroness is off because she wore black leather, not high-tech armor. So you're willing for one outfit to be faithful, but not others. That's hipocracy. This suit just works better for GI JOE more so than any other heroes because of the military context to the film. Show me a soldier ever wearing anything like the old JOES gear and I'll eat my hat.

It's obvious you just don't like the movie, you don't want to like the movie, and you're ready to bash anything that doesn't resemble the warm, safe territory you've wandered for the last quarter of a century. No wet sarcasm or pale fanboy rhetoric is going to make that less obvious.

[NoirMan82]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

No thanks.

[tyler-durden]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

Did you do this manip, nice work, they so should have gone in this direction instead of the all black look.

[Kable24]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

Now that's how they should have done the costume.

[Frizzo the Clown]

*edit*

[DorkyFresh]

No thanks.
it's not for everyone, but it's an alternative that i don't think would've made any of the general audience think any less of it.

Did you do this manip, nice work, they so should have gone in this direction instead of the all black look.
yeah i did it. just a few minutes on photoshop...no big deal. glad to know i'm not alone on this.

[tyler-durden]

it just gives it more of an individual look and a great nod to her original costume with out making it pure spandex, I could have ssen the X-men doing something like this but less obvious, because truthfully X-men comic costumes look so odd when tried to make look real.

[YoJoeScarlett]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

Looking at this pic and I think I like the all black better but you did a great job don't get me wrong.

[Denny67]

Wrong is a matter of formulated fact, dude, not opinion. What you like or want isn't what everybody else wants. Calling this design "lazy" just because you don't like is a slap in the face to the creative team of this movie and any movie. Just using outdated and flat out tacky costumes of TOYS made 25 years ago is lazy. They're just trying to update the GI JOE concept, which is waaay overdue.

That is the entire point. You Hollywood homer types crack me up. I mean really...a slap in the face the every Hollywood creative team? LMAO. The idea sucks and the design sucks, saying so is in fact opinion. My previous statement was to reflect that many others are saying... this thread alone is proof of that so click the back button a few pages.


And your "muscle suit" claim is also flat. Batman has a molded rubber suit, the X-Men wear leather racing-like gear, and Scarlett is wearing an armoredtacticle, textile uniform. I can't say I see soldiers wearing stuff like this (although concepts like it exist) but I also don't live in the future, where the movie takes place.

black insert what ever suit type you like... old and tired.

Comparing this outfit to COBRA is even misinformed because they all wore blue except the red gaurd and robots. We also don't even know if this is her full-time outfit for the film. Even saying this suit would be good for Baroness is off because she wore black leather, not high-tech armor. So you're willing for one outfit to be faithful, but not others. That's hipocracy.

Oh let's tackle these gems.

1. I was obviously working off of the assumption that we were talking about updated and changed designs so the Captain Obvious statement that Cobra wore blue is a left field "duh." Sorry next time I will not make such assumptions and maybe use crayon.

2. The “faithful design argument” is yours and yours alone. Point in fact I stated very clearly that “Nobody is saying they want an exact remake of the 80's costumes.” So where you like to hear your own self go on about this and that, you obviously lack basic reading comprehension.

http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/baroness.gifREALLLLLY? :whatever:


This suit just works better for GI JOE more so than any other heroes because of the military context to the film. Show me a soldier ever wearing anything like the old JOES gear and I'll eat my hat.

http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/shipwreck.gif http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/79/01/23200179.jpg

http://www.ugo.com/movies/soldiers-in-entertainment/images/gijoe.jpg

http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/files/YouTube%20soldier.JPG

Would you prefer ranch or bbq sauce?

It's obvious you just don't like the movie, you don't want to like the movie, and you're ready to bash anything that doesn't resemble the warm, safe territory you've wandered for the last quarter of a century. No wet sarcasm or pale fanboy rhetoric is going to make that less obvious.

Oh the massive level of assumption and the “oh so sweet” irony combine into a truly entraining experience. Please don’t stop posting. It is like watching a sweater slowly unravel.

[Denny67]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

The idea is great but you may want to try for less metallic and more muted “field colors.” That is the truly challenging thing. To try and use the old designs and update them. Incorporating these basic character concepts but adding a level of functionality to them. The outfit design is just a little hard to work with.

[Timstuff]

I'm personally fine with all black. She's an intelligence operative (meaning stealth is her specialty), so there's no logical need for any sort of color in her costume. Her suit looks somewhat reminiscent of her Sigma 6 duds, which I personally thought looked okay (although her loose hair seemed somewhat dysfunctional as opposed to the classic ponytail).

What's really important though, is how very nicely Rachel fills out a skintight costume. Rrrrowrrrr... :heart:

[DorkyFresh]

The idea is great but you may want to try for less metallic and more muted “field colors.” That is the truly challenging thing. To try and use the old designs and update them. Incorporating these basic character concepts but adding a level of functionality to them. The outfit design is just a little hard to work with.
yeah, i see what you're saying. i wasn't going for the metalic look but it ended up coming out that way. i'll probably play with it more tomorrow and see if i can get it looking less like she's geared up for lazer tag.

http://www.ugo.com/movies/soldiers-in-entertainment/images/gijoe.jpg

that's a pretty cool drawing. those outfits could've easily been translated onto film without looking cheesy.

[Crook]

Problem is: only making sense is for reality. Totally different from this kind of fiction.
I understand the concerns. Like I said, I'm not much of a fan so that's why this isn't really bothering me. I'm just speaking from more practical terms in designing a TEAM.

Someone more knowledgeable let me know, but were the traditional (or whatever everyone prefers) costumes very different from each other? Or were there actual elements that did stay consistent?

[tyler-durden]

I know stealth is supposed to be her specialty, but Dorkyfresh's manip just yells Scarlett from G.I.Joe

[Crook]

It's a nice manip, but the colors (while faithful), look damn random on a black tactical costume. Like at first glance it didn't make sense.

:huh:

[tyler-durden]

at first, you're right it looks kind of odd but wen you think about her original looks and his manip, you gotta think man that's what it would have looked like if they were to be faitful

[DorkyFresh]

happy medium?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored-1.jpg

[tyler-durden]

this one's cool too

[CEREBRAL....]

yeah, i see what you're saying. i wasn't going for the metalic look but it ended up coming out that way. i'll probably play with it more tomorrow and see if i can get it looking less like she's geared up for lazer tag.
.

I think u did a damn good job rendering that pic! I mess with photoshop so i'm impressed. I would like to know how u did it but i'm sure u dont wanna unveil you're secrets (which is cool)

knw what i find funny...even though you were just messing around. people on here still find fault with even your pic:wow:

geez...man a bunch of disgruntle net headz..!!

[M.O.Steel]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

I love this.

[DorkyFresh]

I think u did a damn good job rendering that pic! I mess with photoshop so i'm impressed. I would like to know how u did it but i'm sure u dont wanna unveil you're secrets (which is cool)

knw what i find funny...even though you were just messing around. people on here still find fault with even your pic:wow:

geez...man a bunch of disgruntle net headz..!!
it's cool Cerebral. everyone's entitled to their own opinion. i even admit that it's a lil' colorful for my tastes, but i was just playing around. it's not like i put a lot of effort into it.

as for how i did it, it's pretty simple actually. use the lasso to select what you want to change then use the hue/saturation and bright/contrast to mess around with the colors.

[Crook]

knw what i find funny...even though you were just messing around. people on here still find fault with even your pic:wow:

geez...man a bunch of disgruntle net headz..!!
Get over yourself. :funny:

The critiques concerned the concept and color choice of the manip. Not the merit of how well-made it was.

[Balthus Dire]

Even if it was neon pink, the actual design of that costume is pretty uninventive if you ask me. So no matter what colour you make it, it'll look exactly that.

[Timstuff]

Personally, I think that the black costume brings more attention to the color of her hair, and since I like redheads I'm down with that.

[DarknessOfDeath]

mmm red heads :o

[CEREBRAL....]

Get over yourself. :funny:

The critiques concerned the concept and color choice of the manip. Not the merit of how well-made it was.




and like an a-hole everyone got ones right?

[DarknessOfDeath]

easy guys.

[Timstuff]

mmm red heads :o

I heard some rather disturbing claims that they're actually endangered now. And there is only one way that this dilemma can be solved! :woot:

It's just too bad it's not easier to find hot ones... That may be the real reason they're endangered. :csad:

[NoirMan82]

That is the entire point. You Hollywood homer types crack me up. I mean really...a slap in the face the every Hollywood creative team? LMAO. The idea sucks and the design sucks, saying so is in fact opinion. My previous statement was to reflect that many others are saying... this thread alone is proof of that so click the back button a few pages.




black insert what ever suit type you like... old and tired.



Oh let's tackle these gems.

1. I was obviously working off of the assumption that we were talking about updated and changed designs so the Captain Obvious statement that Cobra wore blue is a left field "duh." Sorry next time I will not make such assumptions and maybe use crayon.

2. The “faithful design argument” is yours and yours alone. Point in fact I stated very clearly that “Nobody is saying they want an exact remake of the 80's costumes.” So where you like to hear your own self go on about this and that, you obviously lack basic reading comprehension.

http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/baroness.gifREALLLLLY? :whatever:




http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/shipwreck.gif http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/79/01/23200179.jpg

http://www.ugo.com/movies/soldiers-in-entertainment/images/gijoe.jpg

http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/files/YouTube%20soldier.JPG

Would you prefer ranch or bbq sauce?



Oh the massive level of assumption and the “oh so sweet” irony combine into a truly entraining experience. Please don’t stop posting. It is like watching a sweater slowly unravel.

Yo'ure right! My god, I'm so embarrased! Your arrogant double talk and Googled images are tearing apart my cleary skewered world perspective. Apox upon my folly! Okay, I'm laying it on thick, man, sorry. I know some people don't like, and I know some do like it, but the forum posters here aren't an accurate representation of the american public, so you have to take it all with a grain of salt. Your also making it out to look like I'm a card-carrying Hollywood producer or something. Although I do like the outfit, I'm not saying it's the perfect choice, I'm just saying that you can't completely bash it because it doesn't fit your mental concept of what it should be.

You're still clinging to your whole "Batman" tirade like it was the True Cross. Batman wears black because Batman wears black. The X-Men wore it because bright spandex looks dumb on such serious characters in such a serious storyline. Scarlett is wearing black for practical and yet to be revealed reasons. Besides Batman and X-Men, I can't think of many more comic adaptations that change colors to black that didn't warrant it. So saying it's "old and tired" is saying "it's not what I want". Just say that instead of making baseless claims. From what I've seen, most comic movies are staying true to form with the costumes aside from the afformentioned.

And, oh yeah, my "gems":

1.) Sorry for misunderstanding you. I should use my telepathy in the future to know what you mean instead of reading what you wrote literally. My bad.

2.) The faithful argument isn't mine alone. It's being echoed by alot of people here and abroad. I wasn't directing that portion at you, but to people in general. Seeing how you're obviously an self-absorbed-internet fueled-egomaniac, I see why you misunderstood.

And as for those pictures:

I'm an Army buff, my best friend is a Sgt. in Army and he hands down a lot of training, knowledge, and equipment to me. I've visited him in Ft. Carson, Ft. Knox, and numerous other military bases. He's sent me pictures and video from his exploits in Bosnia, Serbia, and Iraq. In all of this, I've never seen any soldiers dressed like the JOES. Although having a personal fashion sense is great for a cartoon, it goes against the foundation of being a soldier. A soldier is not an individual. He is to function as an almost faceless cog in a greater machine. It doesn't matter if he's a SEAL, Delta, Ranger, or infantry. No soldier goes out in the field dressed like the guy you posted, none. He's a d-bag posing for a picture. And before you inject you're "this is fiction" idea in your head, a film using real people in at least seemingly real settings calls for a realistic approach to a certain level. It has to resemble something were are familiar with everyday. Like I said before, this suit isn't the best choice, but it's not horrible either.

Denny ,you can use all the bravado and snide comments you want, but it doesn't make you right. It also doesn't make you wrong. The same can be said for me. The difference between us is that I understand that and you don't. The reason I'm more open to the suit is that I'm not as obsessed with my own personal paradigm that I must castrate anything that doesn't fit it, like you. So post all the crappy pictures and hack-handled BS you like, it doesn't change a thing. It is what it is and there's nothing you can do about it. I love when people feel like they've won, and never take the time to realize there's no victory to be had. :whatever:

[copywrite]

Do we know this for a fact?

...and if true, why release a first-look shot of Scarlet in a suit she only wears for one scene?


I don't think so.
Yes, it is fact. It's like the last battle uniform. You honestly think she's going to be walking around wearing that? This isn't a cartoon, they'll wear more than one outfit.

[Philly Phanboy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Target-33/Funny/06_bay_lgl.jpg

[Michael Bay]"Now let me see one with FLAMES painted on!"[/Michael Bay]



:p

[Mercurius]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.



Here it is. :up::up:

What is so difficult in making something like this? I just CAN'T get it. :huh:

[DOG LIPS]

I dunno why, but it kind of reminds me of the suits they wore in that Lost in Space remake.

http://www.dvdtown.com/images/displayimage.php?id=3345

[Midnhtsun]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.
I like the second version better this color scheme just reminds me of Iron Man too much :im:

[RockSP]

Looks more like the Baroness than Scarlett to me.

Yep. Except for the red hair of course.

When I first saw it I thought it looked like she was wearing Snake Eyes' outfit...

[Denny67]

Yo'ure right! My god, I'm so embarrased! Your arrogant double talk and Googled images are tearing apart my cleary skewered world perspective. Apox upon my folly! Okay, I'm laying it on thick, man, sorry. I know some people don't like, and I know some do like it, but the forum posters here aren't an accurate representation of the american public, so you have to take it all with a grain of salt. Your also making it out to look like I'm a card-carrying Hollywood producer or something. Although I do like the outfit, I'm not saying it's the perfect choice, I'm just saying that you can't completely bash it because it doesn't fit your mental concept of what it should be.

You're still clinging to your whole "Batman" tirade like it was the True Cross. Batman wears black because Batman wears black. The X-Men wore it because bright spandex looks dumb on such serious characters in such a serious storyline. Scarlett is wearing black for practical and yet to be revealed reasons. Besides Batman and X-Men, I can't think of many more comic adaptations that change colors to black that didn't warrant it. So saying it's "old and tired" is saying "it's not what I want". Just say that instead of making baseless claims. From what I've seen, most comic movies are staying true to form with the costumes aside from the afformentioned.

And, oh yeah, my "gems":

1.) Sorry for misunderstanding you. I should use my telepathy in the future to know what you mean instead of reading what you wrote literally. My bad.

2.) The faithful argument isn't mine alone. It's being echoed by alot of people here and abroad. I wasn't directing that portion at you, but to people in general. Seeing how you're obviously an self-absorbed-internet fueled-egomaniac, I see why you misunderstood.

And as for those pictures:

I'm an Army buff, my best friend is a Sgt. in Army and he hands down a lot of training, knowledge, and equipment to me. I've visited him in Ft. Carson, Ft. Knox, and numerous other military bases. He's sent me pictures and video from his exploits in Bosnia, Serbia, and Iraq. In all of this, I've never seen any soldiers dressed like the JOES. Although having a personal fashion sense is great for a cartoon, it goes against the foundation of being a soldier. A soldier is not an individual. He is to function as an almost faceless cog in a greater machine. It doesn't matter if he's a SEAL, Delta, Ranger, or infantry. No soldier goes out in the field dressed like the guy you posted, none. He's a d-bag posing for a picture. And before you inject you're "this is fiction" idea in your head, a film using real people in at least seemingly real settings calls for a realistic approach to a certain level. It has to resemble something were are familiar with everyday. Like I said before, this suit isn't the best choice, but it's not horrible either.

Denny ,you can use all the bravado and snide comments you want, but it doesn't make you right. It also doesn't make you wrong. The same can be said for me. The difference between us is that I understand that and you don't. The reason I'm more open to the suit is that I'm not as obsessed with my own personal paradigm that I must castrate anything that doesn't fit it, like you. So post all the crappy pictures and hack-handled BS you like, it doesn't change a thing. It is what it is and there's nothing you can do about it. I love when people feel like they've won, and never take the time to realize there's no victory to be had. :whatever:

Really… you are an Army buff? Wow!
You have a friend that is in the Military huh? That makes you an authority?


Ranger Class 3/96
25th ID 1993-1996
10th Motown 1996-99
C Co. 4th RTB 1999-2004


Talk to me now smart guy.


Can it maybe be that someone actually knows more about a subject that you from actual experience? Some of us have done more that sit on the couch and watch the Military channel and visit the Army surplus store “Mr. Expert.” If you want Military reality, step away from the keyboard and go talk to a recruiter.

Your potato bug defense is to claim that anybody who disagrees with you is a “self-absorbed-internet fueled-egomaniac” is the textbook example of the pot calling the kettle black.

You see the bravado you point out or what can be construed as bravado is in reality just the difference between one backpedaling individual who wants to sound like they know what they are talking about and one who actually does. Secondly, where you get off calling anybody who is serving their country a “d-bag” is beyond me. As someone who has never been in combat and enjoys all of the luxuries that “d-bags,” like that guy provides, you have a lot of nerve. He does not meet your visual expectation of Military dress while in country. Once again, strap on a brain bucket and take a walk in the sun before you start spouting off junior.

You have asserted so far that anyone who does not see your viewpoint on this subject is a pasty fan boy who is stuck in the 80’s and is unwilling to accepts any change at all. So far you are batting zero young man. Your long wined dissertations are nothing more than hubris filled internet masturbatory session that have zero substance other than hearing yourself talk.

[NoirMan82]

Really… you are an Army buff? Wow!
You have a friend that is in the Military huh? That makes you an authority?


Ranger Class 3/96
25th ID 1993-1996
10th Motown 1996-99
C Co. 4th RTB 1999-2004


Talk to me now smart guy.


Can it maybe be that someone actually knows more about a subject that you from actual experience? Some of us have done more that sit on the couch and watch the Military channel and visit the Army surplus store “Mr. Expert.” If you want Military reality, step away from the keyboard and go talk to a recruiter.

Your potato bug defense is to claim that anybody who disagrees with you is a “self-absorbed-internet fueled-egomaniac” is the textbook example of the pot calling the kettle black.

You see the bravado you point out or what can be construed as bravado is in reality just the difference between one backpedaling individual who wants to sound like they know what they are talking about and one who actually does. Secondly, where you get off calling anybody who is serving their country a “d-bag” is beyond me. As someone who has never been in combat and enjoys all of the luxuries that “d-bags,” like that guy provides, you have a lot of nerve. He does not meet your visual expectation of Military dress while in country. Once again, strap on a brain bucket and take a walk in the sun before you start spouting off junior.

You have asserted so far that anyone who does not see your viewpoint on this subject is a pasty fan boy who is stuck in the 80’s and is unwilling to accepts any change at all. So far you are batting zero young man. Your long wined dissertations are nothing more than hubris filled internet masturbatory session that have zero substance other than hearing yourself talk.

I didn't claim to be an "expert" Denny. I said was stating my experience with the matter. Putting quote marks on things I didn't even say or claim to be doesn't help you. Pulling out what I'm suppose to view as real military stats just because you say they are doesn't either. You're starting to sound desperate, mainly because what you just wrote is a mish-mash of things I didn't even say, things said that were out of context from 2 pages ago, personal assualts, and more of the same rhetoric you've been spouting post after post.
Don't forget you started this with me just because I didn't agree with you. Then you had to assert your superiorty over me for whatever reason. And I don't know where all this "young man" crap is coming from "old timer". Especially seeing how you're only 10 years older than me. Also I can call anyone I wan't a "d-bag" because it's my god-given right to say what I please. Once again, you're trying to assert some sort of position of superiority or authority by saying I can't. You're not R. Lee Ermy, and I'm not Private Pyle, so save the Full Metal Jacket rants for someone it works on. You're not even making a point anymore, you're just wagging your finger at me and reflecting the comments I made toward you back at me. So if all I have to look forward to from your posting is this, I gladly disengage myself from the discussion. It's not even about the material anymore, it's about you feeling the need to stroke your ego and trying to put me down (and failing) so you can feel right. I can see where you're trying to take this, and I'm not going there.

[DorkyFresh]

guys...your argument is straying off the topic. you might wanna take it to PMs.

[Denny67]

guys...your argument is straying off the topic. you might wanna take it to PMs.

I was actually thinking the same thing. My apologies to the rest of the board.
Carry on.

[DorkyFresh]

no probs, Den. i actually thought you made a lot of good points and i was rooting for you...hehe. anyway...


...yeah, i posted this in the costumes thread, but i don't see why they can't give the G.I. Joe battle suits a bit of color considering Snake Eyes has, not only more color, but he also has corny sculpted muscles.

[nieman]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.

Did you see how it would look if it was dark gray instead of black? Probably would look even better. Nice job though.

And by the way, if she is an intelligence operative, she could wear whatever colors she wants. Its about infiltration, not stealth. She supposed to be able to be invisible in plain sight.

[NoirMan82]

I was actually thinking the same thing. My apologies to the rest of the board.
Carry on.

Yeah we got a little carried away...okay alot of carried away. I didn't mean to assassinate the thread. My bad.

[Timstuff]

If Marlon Wayans gets anywhere near Scarlett in the movie, he WILL be a white chick by the time I'm done with him! :cmad:

[DOG LIPS]

:eek:

[Dr. Fate]

mmm red heads :o
Accept nothing less.

[The Apatow Crew]

All I gotta say is Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!

[CEREBRAL....]

If Marlon Wayans gets anywhere near Scarlett in the movie, he WILL be a white chick by the time I'm done with him! :cmad:


huh, please elaborate?

[Altitude]

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/meet-g-i-joe-s-scarlett-4452

http://i26.tinypic.com/k31y6e.jpg

Niiiice.:bh:

[Mercurius]

Nice girl, wrong outfit.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I like it...


*listens to Back in Black*

[Rac]

http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/baroness.gifREALLLLLY? :whatever:
What's so bad about that? It looks basically the same as the movie outfits.

[Mercurius]

I like it...


*listens to Back in Black*

Oh, I see: you are in the Sith side of the Force. :oldrazz:

[ohbc07]

alright looks good.

[Timstuff]

So, has anyone heard anything as to whether or not the Scarlett / Snake Eyes love story will be represented in the film? Will it at least be hinted at / left open for sequels, or are they going to turn her into Duke's plaything, or worse-- *shudders* Marlon Wayans'? I really hope they don't mess their relationship up because it was always my favorite GI Joe ship... (not that there were many ships in GI Joe to begin with considering what a sausage fest their team is)

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

So, has anyone heard anything as to whether or not the Scarlett / Snake Eyes love story will be represented in the film? Will it at least be hinted at / left open for sequels, or are they going to turn her into Duke's plaything, or worse-- *shudders* Marlon Wayans'? I really hope they don't mess their relationship up because it was always my favorite GI Joe ship... (not that there were many ships in GI Joe to begin with considering what a sausage fest their team is)

Scarlett and SE are close. Ripcord hits on her; she rebuffs him. FInally, she changes her mind about him and tells him before he gets on a plane that SE is like a brother to her and she kisses him before he heads off on a dangerous mission.

[Timstuff]

Great, so we'll have to see Rachel Nichols suck face with Marlon Wayans... :o

I'm hoping that when they get around to doing a sequel, they'll make an attempt to start playing the Scarlett / Snake Eyes angle. Poor SE has suffered enough already without having to get dropped into the friend zone on top of it, y'know? Especially not for one of the Wayans brothers...

[The Guard]

I realize this is a change to the mythology but...

We know Channing Tatum has relatively little charisma, so who wants to see that
unfold onscreen with Scarlett? Besides, he's got The Baroness in his past and present conflicting with his "soldier's mindset", which works pretty well on paper.

Whereas Snake Eyes doesn't talk, mumble, or do much besides kick ass and look surly. That whole "Do they or don't they" thing between him and Scarlett works well in the comics and cartoon when you have episode after episode of small glances, awkward moments, etc, to build intrigue for a relationship, but it's not real compelling in a two hour movie, and it's difficult to flesh out. It will probably feel a bit more real if it's done over the course of several films.

The Ripcord/Scarlett relationship subplot, even though it's sort of a "Dance Movie" angle, is actually one of the more interesting elements of the script. It's one of the few sources of character development, and leads to some of the few humanizing scenes, some of which really allow Scarlett to shine. The writing lays some basic groundwork for a "close friends and teammates becoming lovers" thing to unfold between Scarlett and Snake Eyes, and it could also set up a "triangle" a la X-Men with Snake Eyes, Ripcord, and Scarlett, though it's not made obvious that Snake Eyes is interested at this point. In the script, Scarlett is unsure of herself and unfamiliar with matters of emotion and the heart, but fierce in battle. She's not really into relationships, so she and Snake Eyes wouldn't have been together anyway. Snake Eyes is protective of her, and they're close, but he doesn't exactly make any romantic overtures.

[TheVileOne]

Just shows lack of creativity that they had to go that route.

[The Guard]

How does creating something new show a lack of creativity?

Wouldn't sticking to the status quo in fact be less creative?

[TheVileOne]

Its not creative because they just said, "Oh we can't figure out a way to make this relationship compelling for a movie. So let's just stick the redhead with the black guy that can talk."

There's nothing creative about having the wisecracking goofball hitting on the hot girl who ultimately returns his affections at the end.

[TheVileOne]

Its not creative because they just said, "Oh we can't figure out a way to make this relationship compelling for a movie. So let's just stick the redhead with the black guy that can talk."

There's nothing creative about having the wisecracking goofball hitting on the hot girl who ultimately returns his affections at the end.

[The Guard]

I suppose that depends on your definition of creative. Mine involves an artist actually creating, not just using another artist's existing ideas.

This is not at all just "wisecracking goofball hits on the hot girl". If there just one scene of that happening or something, I'd give you that this was not creative at all. Instead, they've bothered to actually establish characterizations, test them, and develop them at least somewhat over the course of the film.

So by the general definition of creativity, it is creative. And it is, despite your objections, more creative than simply using an idea that existed.

I'm not saying it's better. I'd rather see her with Snake Eyes, and ultimately, they may well end up together. And frankly, if Snake Eyes and Scarlett end up together, rather than them just BEING together at the beginning of the franchise a la Cyclops and Jean Grey in the X-Men franchise, I wouldn't mind seeing how they got together.

I suspect what you all mean to say is "That's not very original".

[Timstuff]

Agreed... To me, stories about a couple coming together are a lot more interesting than stories about pre-established couples. There's a lot more sexual tension and build up, which makes it more satisfying when the characters finally end up together.

I want to see Snake Eyes and Scarlett together, but I'm OK with having to wait for a sequel. Maybe a little love triangle is in order, with SE being the Betty and Ripcord being the Veronica...

...man, TVtropes.org really is taking over my life.

[The Guard]

There's definitely more sexual tension and build up in stories about a couple coming together.

(Snicker)

[Timstuff]

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7105/tigerloliu8.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/tigerloliu8.jpg/)

[TheVileOne]

Yeah. The script doesn't really imply they could get together later. Also if the first movie is a flop, then WE WILL NEVER SEE A SEQUEL WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP ANYWAY!

[Vile]

Also if the first movie is a flop

If?! IF?!

[Timstuff]

Keep dreaming. This movie will make money. :o

[The Guard]

Yeah. The script doesn't really imply they could get together later.

The script doesn't need to give away future story points. It hints that they are close, and that Snake Eyes is very protective of Scarlet, and that she is somewhat aware of his feelings about her, but that he's never made a move. The groundwork to go elsewhere is there.

Also if the first movie is a flop, then WE WILL NEVER SEE A SEQUEL WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP ANYWAY!

That's true. How about that? Then you'll have to fall back on the years and years of comics and cartoons that featured it.

[TheVileOne]

The script doesn't need to give away future story points. It hints that they are close, and that Snake Eyes is very protective of Scarlet, and that she is somewhat aware of his feelings about her, but that he's never made a move. The groundwork to go elsewhere is there.

You are interpreting way too much. Scarlett basically says she doesn't like Snake Eyes that way and wants to be with dumbass Ripcord for his dumbass bravery and all that ****.



That's true. How about that? Then you'll have to fall back on the years and years of comics and cartoons that featured it.

The cartoons never featured it.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

I still think the most original thing to do would be to have Scarlett still dislike Ripcord in the end, but her attitude is that he's "a useful idiot."

It would have gotten the biggest laugh in the movie if he went to kiss her at the end before he got on that plane and she gently pushed him away and told him "You're out of your mind." because by this point the audience would have been expecting the cliche of "the funny but tough goofball wins over the hot girl who initially hates him."

[Timstuff]

Not only that, but it would be more realistic. I mean, how does hitting on a girl over and over again make them like you, anyway? It's not flirting unless it's two way...

[That-Guy]

Keep dreaming. This movie will make money. :o

It'll make SOME money, but unless you're planning on buying on 30,000 tickets just for yourself, you don't have any guarantee that it's going to turn a profit.

[TheVileOne]

Its a tough call IMHO. Hype name value alone could propel to the movie to success ala the first Tomb Raider and Fantastic Four.

[The Guard]

You are interpreting way too much. Scarlett basically says she doesn't like Snake Eyes that way and wants to be with dumbass Ripcord for his dumbass bravery and all that ****.

Uh...no. This isn't me overinterpreting anything. It's made pretty clear that Snake Eyes cares about Scarlet via his actions in the script, and she seems to be aware that they're close, but describes Snake Eyes as "more like a brother".

[TheVileOne]

Yeah. Meaning she sees him as a brother figure not a potential lover.

[Timstuff]

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp91/donnyx2/just_friends_movie-dvd-ryan_reynold.jpg

Imagine this movie, except Ryan Reynolds has been replaced with a mute ninja. :D

[The Guard]

Yeah. Meaning she sees him as a brother figure not a potential lover.

Yet.

Oh, the intrigue.

[TheVileOne]

Seriously the Guard. Enough. There wasn't any of the YET intrigue in the freaking script. Its pretty clear they went with the Scarlett/Ripcord nonsense.

Also, at the end of that ****** Ryan Reynolds movie he ends up with Amy Smart.

[The Guard]

Seeing as how we are unfamiliar with sarcasm, I shall close the register at this point.

You apparently keep missing the part where I say that they've laid the groundwork, that it's possible, etc, etc. I've not said a thing about any actual emotional scenes between them, or an excisting relationship.

[TheVileOne]

And I disagree with this part because you are pretending like there's actually going to be some complex and subtle relationships in this story when there aren't.

Its not possible because they basically close the book on it with the stupid like a brother business and Scarlett GOES FOR RIPCORD!

[The Guard]

No.

While I suppose I can't fault you for not seeing the obvious sarcasm in my post...you are being ridiculous at this point.

I'm not "pretending" anything.

Listen to me very closely.

There could, in the future, be a more complex relationship in sequels if writers choose to go that route. They have left themselves room to do so. Right now, all that's there is the idea that Snake Eyes cares about Scarlett on some level.

If you continue to ignore this very simple point that I have continually made, I'm just going to start egging you on about the crappy Ripcord/Scarlett relationship.

[TheVileOne]

There could, in the future, be a more complex relationship in sequels if writers choose to go that route. They have left themselves room to do so. Right now, all that's there is the idea that Snake Eyes cares about Scarlett on some level.

If I had wheels and pedals I'd be a bicycle. You are assuming and bucking on a lot by saying this.

If you continue to ignore this very simple point that I have continually made, I'm just going to start egging you on about the crappy Ripcord/Scarlett relationship.

Feel free.

[TheVileOne]

There could, in the future, be a more complex relationship in sequels if writers choose to go that route. They have left themselves room to do so. Right now, all that's there is the idea that Snake Eyes cares about Scarlett on some level.

If I had wheels and pedals I'd be a bicycle. You are assuming and bucking on a lot by saying this.

If you continue to ignore this very simple point that I have continually made, I'm just going to start egging you on about the crappy Ripcord/Scarlett relationship.

Feel free.

[The Guard]

Hey The Vile One...are Snake Eyes and Scarlett a couple in the new live action movie yet?

[kane9321]

earlier i posted that i don't know if this is her only suit. i doubt is, but IF it is then i don't see why they couldn't have added a little color...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/scarlettcolored.jpg

...her suit looks cool, but the fact that it's all black kills me. even if they aren't faithful to the original colors or have to add small hints of colors here and there it would've been better. all black is boring and a waste of today's camera technology imo.


this is how her suit should be....all black, oh please:cmad:

[TheVileOne]

I read a recent interview with Rachel Nichols in Wizard. She had the gall to say that Scarlett was the ONLY GIRL GI JOE.

Good God.

To make it clear, I get that she's the only female one in the movie, but she talked like Scarlett was the only female one that ever existed.

[Timstuff]

I read a recent interview with Rachel Nichols in Wizard. She had the gall to say that Scarlett was the ONLY GIRL GI JOE.

Good God.

To make it clear, I get that she's the only female one in the movie, but she talked like Scarlett was the only female one that ever existed.

As far as I know Cover Girl does not go into the field, and since at the time that Rise of Cobra takes place Scarlett is the only female field operative in the unit, I don't really see what's worth getting so worked up about. Yeah, it's not giving due props to Cover Girl who is also in the movie, but I think you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

BTW, Scarlett does get to wear her classic colors in the movie. She's not in black armor from start to finish (pretty much no-one is).

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4531/scarlett1.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2549/scarlett2.jpg

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

I read a recent interview with Rachel Nichols in Wizard. She had the gall to say that Scarlett was the ONLY GIRL GI JOE.

Good God.

To make it clear, I get that she's the only female one in the movie, but she talked like Scarlett was the only female one that ever existed.

An actor in a comic book movie not being familiar with the source material?! Say it isn't so!

You pointed out to me once that this is essentially a paycheck movie for Dennis Quaid when I took issue with his comparing General Hawk to Hugh Hefner. Why does this surprise you?

[Timstuff]

I think Quade is a bit too old to have been playing with GI Joes back in the 80's. :rolleyes:

Also, for the people who complain that Rachel Nichols is unfamiliar with GI Joe: DUH, she's a girl! What girls did you ever know who were into GI Joe?

[Philly Phanboy]

I think Quade is a bit too old to have been playing with GI Joes back in the 80's. :rolleyes:

Also, for the people who complain that Rachel Nichols is unfamiliar with GI Joe: DUH, she's a girl! What girls did you ever know who were into GI Joe?

Jessica Stroup is the only actress that I know that was into GI Joe. I think she mentions something about it in a The Hills Have Eyes 2 interview. :yay:

[TheVileOne]

So what if she's a girl? You guys still whine and cry when Kirsten Dunst talks about Spider-man.

If she's a girl being paid to play this character she should do some research, and if she did research she would KNOW that Scarlett was not the only lady JOE.

[terry78]

Everyone knows girls should stay out of what we like and only focus on pleasing us sexually.

[PyroChamber]

As far as I know Cover Girl does not go into the field, and since at the time that Rise of Cobra takes place Scarlett is the only female field operative in the unit, I don't really see what's worth getting so worked up about. Yeah, it's not giving due props to Cover Girl who is also in the movie, but I think you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

BTW, Scarlett does get to wear her classic colors in the movie. She's not in black armor from start to finish (pretty much no-one is).

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4531/scarlett1.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2549/scarlett2.jpgI have a feeling, as far as costumes go, it'll be like Street Fighter. They'll wear different clothes throughout the movie, but then end up in their more familiar outfits by the end.

[Majik1387]

I read a recent interview with Rachel Nichols in Wizard. She had the gall to say that Scarlett was the ONLY GIRL GI JOE.

Good God.

To make it clear, I get that she's the only female one in the movie, but she talked like Scarlett was the only female one that ever existed.
Maybe she meant, she's the only female GI Joe in the fighting field of the movie. :huh:

[TheVileOne]

If that's what she meant, she still sounded like a ditz about it.

[Timstuff]

I have a feeling, as far as costumes go, it'll be like Street Fighter. They'll wear different clothes throughout the movie, but then end up in their more familiar outfits by the end.

Nah, it looks more like the other way around, where they have the more familiar looking clothes earlier in the movie, and then they get the "awesome outfits" for the big show down near the end.

[The Guard]

They start out in black armor, they'll wear other clothes in between (because who goes around wearing nothing but black armor?) and the film will end with them in black armored battlesuits. I think Scarlett might actually be wearing that jacket over her armor. Maybe, can't tell from the picture. Is that jeans or something she's wearing?

[Shadow-Guardian]

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4531/scarlett1.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2549/scarlett2.jpg

For some reason, that expression on her face just turns me on.

...Too much information?

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

for some reason, that expression on her face just turns me on.

...too much information?

Yes.

[Timstuff]

For some reason, that expression on her face just turns me on.

...Too much information?

Because it looks like she's looking at you with your pants down?

I kid, I kid! :woot:

[Shadow-Guardian]

Seriously though, she looks so damn hot. Oh how I'm looking forward to the "training" scene. Mwahahaha.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Seriously though, she looks so damn hot. Oh how I'm looking forward to the "training" scene. Mwahahaha.

Down boy.

[TheVileOne]

The wizard interview basically spoils the whole Scarlett/Ripcord/Snake Eyes thing.

They basically say Ripcord gets the girl, and Snake Eyes "observes" Ripcord hitting on Scarlett, and Ripcord ultimately earns Snake Eyes respect and blessing to be with Scarlett.

*VOMITS*

[The Guard]

Which...we already knew.

[Blade X]

Its not creative because they just said, "Oh we can't figure out a way to make this relationship compelling for a movie. So let's just stick the redhead with the black guy that can talk."

There's nothing creative about having the wisecracking goofball hitting on the hot girl who ultimately returns his affections at the end.

I agree with everything you said.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

The wizard interview basically spoils the whole Scarlett/Ripcord/Snake Eyes thing.

They basically say Ripcord gets the girl, and Snake Eyes "observes" Ripcord hitting on Scarlett, and Ripcord ultimately earns Snake Eyes respect and blessing to be with Scarlett.

*VOMITS*

You love repeating yourself, don't you? I doubt everybody else does, though.

[Balthus Dire]

That's too bad, I was hoping they would make it interesting with Snake Eyes and Scarlett. It would've been something fresh at least to see that in the genre rather than just going with the cliche.

Kinda like what they did with Uhura and Spock in the new ST.

[Shadow-Guardian]

Down boy.

Sorry, master. :bow:

[The Guard]

I'm pretty sure they're not just sticking Scarlett with the fun black guy. I would imagine there will be some sort of Scarlet/Snake Eyes/Ripcord love triangle thing if there's a sequel.

[bunk]

Sons of *****es. I liked the fighting, and the ninjas and what not, but it was always the jomance that had me coming back for more.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Sons of *****es. I liked the fighting, and the ninjas and what not, but it was always the jomance that had me coming back for more.

Jomance? :oldrazz:

I know what you mean. Wayans would carve he romance right out the movie, I fear. :csad:

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

So do you think the S/R romance would have gone over better if they had cast Topher Grace as Ripcord (as the article that announced Wayans' casting said almost happened?)

[Timstuff]

No, because Snake Eyes is my favorite character. He and Scarlett were the "canon couple" from the beginning, and that pleased me since I liked both of them, and felt that Snake was easily deserving of (who in my mind) was the finest of the female Joes. But these days, Hasbro keeps c*** blocking him! If it's not Ripcord in Rise of Cobra, it's Duke in Sigma 6 or Resolute. She's now to GI Joe what Wonder Woman is to the Justice League! :cmad:

If they want to make things interesting, in the second movie they should set up a love triangle with Scarlett, Snake Eyes, and Ripcord, and not fully resolve it until the third movie. That'd be a great way to stir up some additional tension in the story, as well as pleasing the fans of the Snake / Scarlett ship.

Why would any woman take Marlon Wayans when they can have a freaking NINJA? :p

[Balthus Dire]

I just think the hottest chick on the JOEs going for the mute ninja is a much more interesting approach than just having her go for the funny jokester.

[mr. peasant]

No, because Snake Eyes is my favorite character. He and Scarlett were the "canon couple" from the beginning, and that pleased me since I liked both of them, and felt that Snake was easily deserving of (who in my mind) was the finest of the female Joes. But these days, Hasbro keeps c*** blocking him! If it's not Ripcord in Rise of Cobra, it's Duke in Sigma 6 or Resolute. She's now to GI Joe what Wonder Woman is to the Justice League! :cmad:

If they want to make things interesting, in the second movie they should set up a love triangle with Scarlett, Snake Eyes, and Ripcord, and not fully resolve it until the third movie. That'd be a great way to stir up some additional tension in the story, as well as pleasing the fans of the Snake / Scarlett ship.

Why would any woman take Marlon Wayans when they can have a freaking NINJA? :p

It depends whose canon you decide to follow. If I remember right, the animated series always placed Scarlett with Duke; even way back to the original series.

[terry78]

This is summer goofy entertainment. Having the white chick with the black guy would be less weird than having her with the mute fighter whose face we will never see and only emotes via fights and pantomime. If Duke didn't have a past with Baroness she'd be with him more than likely.

[Timstuff]

I was watching GI Joe Resolute yesterday, and it pissed me off when Scarlett made her declaration of love to Duke. Seeing as Resolute was meant to be a fanboy pleaser, you'd think they'd have gone for the fan-approved ship rather than the obvious "oh, he's the most recognizeable male character, and she's the most recognizeable female character, so let's put them together!" route. :o

Snake Eyes just tag that ass with one of those tattoos.

¦|¦|¦|

[TheVileOne]

This is summer goofy entertainment. Having the white chick with the black guy would be less weird than having her with the mute fighter whose face we will never see and only emotes via fights and pantomime. If Duke didn't have a past with Baroness she'd be with him more than likely.
Once again, lack of creativity. Just shows they truly don't know the Snake Eyes character, or Scarlett for that matter.

Marlon Wayans does not belong in this movie. He will be GI JOE's equivalent of car car binks.

[Darthkush]

Ya know, I never really cared who Snake Eyes, Scarlett, Duke or Ripcord were with, I was all about Flint and Lady Jaye. They even got married in the comics! They're not in the movie though:csad:

My 2nd favorite Joe couple is Destro and the Baroness...who has history with Captain Bland..er, I mean Duke in the movie though:csad:

[The Immortal!]

Only reason I shall see and buy the movie on blu-ray is cause of Rachel as Scarlett.

One word..


DAMN....

[Fresh Prince]

Whats up with the rasicsm. So what if on film they have a white women dating a black women.

[Fresh Prince]

Only reason I shall see and buy the movie on blu-ray is cause of Rachel as Scarlett.

One word..


DAMN....

Right she bad man.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

Whats up with the rasicsm. So what if on film they have a white women dating a black women.

It's not THAT she is with the black man- it is the particular black man (whose race was not specified in the script) that people have a problem with. If Ripcord was played by a white actor, people would still be upset.