View Full Version : Where should they go from here ?
RickO'Connell
05-04-2008, 01:57 PM
Tony should start space exploration & meet an evil alien race that will eventually lead to an Avengers movie. Jarvis said that the suit can be modified so that he can explore & visit other worlds. Sure he can still help Earth out but they need to think bigger & badder for the sequels & not always keep it Earth base entirely
Kanon
05-04-2008, 02:02 PM
Maybe that's too much too soon... But it's gonna be difficult to throw another armor battle without people thinking is repetitive... But if done well, maybe a cool armor wars is the direction to go...
RickO'Connell
05-04-2008, 02:05 PM
Another thing Marvel could do is a Hulk & Iron Man team up movie after seeing how Hulk & Iron Man does
Kanon
05-04-2008, 02:15 PM
Oh, yeah! especially since the RDJr scene in Hulk
Stark offers help to Thunderbolt Ross
Hulkbuster armor, baby!
Cinemaman
05-04-2008, 02:26 PM
All I just want is making the fight of Tony with his inner demons (alcohol and self-destruction, which is general among business moguls) way deeper.
In addition to this, Fav should use War Machine storyline as smart way of making the movie more complex.
Nathan
05-04-2008, 02:42 PM
They need to introduce War Machine and the Mandarin. Maybe even some other armored adversaries in form of Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man. Heck, even an army of Iron Mongers build by the Mandarin would be fine by me. Just imagine Iron Man and War Machine tearing through a wave of Iron Mongers. That has written epic all over it.
Doomed Hero Rising
05-04-2008, 02:45 PM
I'd say Mandarin! In the third have him go into space
Comic_maniac
05-04-2008, 04:02 PM
if you dont want to get repetitive with iron machines, i say throw whiplash in there. that could be a pretty bad a$$ fight!
tamron
05-04-2008, 04:37 PM
The sequel should delve more into the 10 Rings organization.
Introduce Justin Hammer and have him attempt a hostile takeover on Stark, quickly buying up Stane's interest in the company. Hammer acquires a mole inside Stark's R&D department. Stress from the attempted takeover, media scrutiny, and constant missions to destroy his weaponry on the black market leads Tony deeper into alcholism.
Pepper, unable to handle Tony's situation, becomes closer with Happy.
Rhodey takes over for Tony, but the suit being configured to Tony's brainwaves causes Rhodey to go mad. Tony is forced to overcome his demons and his own friend in the climax, suiting up to stop Rhodey. Hammer's takeover fails, but his mole steals some of Tony's schematics. Hammer sells them on the black market to a mysterious buyer in the third act, setting up Armor Wars for part 3. The movie ends with Tony creating the War Machine armor for Rhodey.
Lots o lafs
05-04-2008, 05:52 PM
Iron Man, War Machine, Avengers.
SurfDUI
05-04-2008, 05:55 PM
Iron Man, War Machine, Avengers.
NO AVENGERS PLEASE-Which just mean it'll happen, I can't get past the cheese of this idea.
They set us up tho...'The TEN Rings'
HiddenDragon
05-04-2008, 06:32 PM
I think War Machine will get introduce in the next movie. I didn't stay for the end of the credits but I was told it gave a strong indication to the direction of the next movie.
War Machine would be cool.
Lots o lafs
05-04-2008, 07:20 PM
Avengers, I dont want it but i think it will play a role.
Maybe this is the lineup.
War Machine, Iron Man, Hawkeye(a bada** archer, codename hawk),Luke Cage, Thor(more ultimate thor looking) and other misc. char.
FoxTrot
05-04-2008, 07:35 PM
I heard there were already plans for a sequel.
RonStoppablefan
05-04-2008, 07:47 PM
Well I'd like War Machine for the next one. I think that would be a great idea.
Barney
05-11-2008, 07:04 AM
Not sure if anyone has seen this but it’s a custom hulkbuster fig... I think it looks really cool and could work in a movie.
It’s made from an iron monger figure and could set the story arc that tony built it from Obadiah’s plans of the iron monger armour just like he did with Starks mk1 plans. tho he wouldn’t have to cos the genius that stark is he would just design it himself... but hey, just a thought an defo worth a look
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotome/JinsDangerousToys/Hulkbuster.html
FaT_tONle
05-11-2008, 09:11 AM
I read somewhere that Favreau was gonna give Potts a boyfriend. I don't want them to use Rhodes or Happy for something like that. They just just add another character. To me its too much along the lines of SM2 but I guess you need a love triangle in all of these franchises at some point. All I really care about is Mandarin and War Machine and I really don't need to see anything else.
Superhero 101
05-11-2008, 02:13 PM
-War Machine
-Introduce Justin Hammer Him trying to take Stark Industries or a competition nothing to big Just his intro to the movie
-Mandarin- Nick Fury briefs Tony that the Ten Rings Leader is doing something dangerous and he needs to save the world (Nick offers Tony some Help if he needs it just Contact a Guy Named Donald Blake)
-Tony deals with inner Demons Pepper can't handle Tony's Condition she quits
Rhodey dons the War Machine Armor and tries to go after Mandarin gets hurt badly maybe MIA
-Tony gets things Straight and gets sobered up and Takes out Mandarin maybe in a new Armor
Armored Avenger
05-11-2008, 02:14 PM
I want Stark's Alcoholism and the Mandarin in the sequel. Anything else and the film might have too much going on. I hope Thor only has a cameo, and i dont want the Hulk included.
spiderfan970
05-12-2008, 12:00 AM
I thought of a pretty okay plot I think that seems to outline everything people on the board have been saying they wanted. I posted it in the mandarin thread. I guess I'll just post it here.
Zhang Tong announces his new teleportation technology, derived from Makluan science. Tong is the CEO of Prometheus, a corporation specializing in bio-engineered weaponry.
People don't know that Zhang Tong is the leader of the ten rings, The only name they know is Mandarin.
Tong did go the Valley of the Spirits and found the crashed space ship. But they were just gems or crystals or something that had the potential for fantastic abilities, not rings. Tong is the one to harness their power and put them in ring form with his technology, slowly being driven mad by the power of the "gems" and his study of the Makluan science.
He doesn't wear his robe/costume until the end of the movie when he is revealed to be the Mandarin and flips out. He needs his costume to power the gauntlets that the rings are on or something...They would redesign it and make it cool and give it some practical use.
Meanwhile Iron Man would become an alcoholic after something happens in the movie, perhaps some kind of corporate take over by Tong or something. Rhodey would become Iron Man to cover for Tony. Mandarin would use his teleportation technology to kidnap Rhodey thinking that he was taking Iron Man. Then Tony would have to sober up, suit up, and save Rhodey in the Silver Centurion armor. They would both fight the Mandarin in his Volcano base, he would escape, and then the movie would end with them teaming up to stop Ultimo.
Although maybe they could save Ultimo and the volcano base for the avengers and mandarin could just escape after a climactic fight versus tony and rhodey together.
tamron
05-12-2008, 12:21 AM
I don't want them to use Rhodes or Happy for something like that.
You do know that Happy and Pepper were together and even married for quite a while in the comics, right? Why shouldn't they adapt that plotline?
FaT_tONle
05-12-2008, 02:02 PM
I don't like giving the director a big role in the movies... I mean can't Favreau find someone else for a similar role? Not that it would be a huge role... and John would do a fine job... its just weird. Its like making Raimi John Jameson or something (forgetting the fact that he is obviously too old in appearance for MJ anyway).
Chris B
05-16-2008, 05:55 PM
I read somewhere that Favreau was gonna give Potts a boyfriend. I don't want them to use Rhodes or Happy for something like that.
I don't think it is necessarily a bad idea, IMO. Pepper becoming closer with Happy can be one of the catalysts for Tony succumbing to alcoholism. Plus, it would be a good time to bring in Whitney Frost, setting-up for Madame Masque to appear in IM3.
Brian Braddock
05-17-2008, 09:38 AM
In no particular order (and obviously - they won't be able to fit all of these in the next film):
Introduction of the Silver Centurion armour (saving Rhodey):-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/1867_4_0216.jpg
which leads to the emergence of War Machine:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/Rhodey-WarMachine-Initiative.jpg
The Demon in a Bottle arc:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/IronMan128.jpg
Titanium Man:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/titaniumman1mi4.gif
The Mandarin:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/Mandrin1.jpg
spiderfan970
05-17-2008, 11:03 AM
That's a lot of stuff in one movie, I think it only needs one villain (Mandarin). But everything else I agree with.
Roaring_Hulk!
05-17-2008, 11:08 AM
I want Iron Man working more with SHIELD, since SHIELD was set up with the agents providing him a cover story and Fury's appearance.
Have Stark being reluctant about the Avengers Initiative, even though he "was willing to help with their green problem".
Ash Talon
05-27-2008, 08:06 PM
I think it's safe to say that there won't be an Iron Man 3. From the sounds of it, Iron Man 3 will actually be the Avengers film. I'm guessing Marvel doesn't want to drag out their franchises too much, but we'll see how it all pans out.
Assuming there won't be an Iron Man 3, which villain(s) should they use? Not only for Iron Man 2 but also the Avengers movie? I know everyone wants Mandarin, but I think I'd prefer Justin Hammer.
If Justin Hammer is used, how about this? Justin Hammer is a rival weapons manufacturer. Since Stark stops making weaposn, Hammer's business has skyrocketed. When some of his technology seems familar, Stark investigates and realizes it's his stolen technology. Stark as Iron Man has to stop the abuse of his technology. However, Hammer employs a small team of villains which incorporate a variety of Stark weapons in their costumes. You could have Whip/Blacklash, Blizzard, Beetle, etc. as Hammer employees. This would basically be a mini-Armor Wars. Maybe even at the end, it could be revealed that the govt also has some of Stark's tech in-line for their own military applications. You could easily fit the alcoholism into this storyline, as well as a Rhodes filling in for Stark as IM. War Machine could be created in the last act to give Rhodes something to wear and help Stark fight the army of bad guys.
As for the Mandarin, I'd make the Rings mysterious in nature. You could allude to them being alien in origin but it doesn't have to be stated. Fin Fang Foom could be incorporated and tied into the rings as well, like later in the comics. Mandarin finds the rings and creates his own mini-empire around their power. Maybe he wants to create his own power supply via the alien tech that will he'll have a monopoly on. However, he doesn't fully understand the tech, and the constant use of the rings awakens and unleashes FFF on the public. IM has to stop both the Mandarin and FFF. In order to stop FFF, IM overloads the rings which destroys Mandarin and puts FFF back into slumber. Or War Machine or Thor is needed to help. Thor can even be introduced earlier in a scene with Nick Fury and SHIELD. He doesn't have to be in costume as that point. In fact, Thor's modern day look in the films could be totally different than what he wears in his Asgard-based solo film. Perhaps SHIELD gives him a more modern look?
If Mandarin isn't used in Iron Man 2, could he and FFF be adequate villains for the Avengers movie?
I would just be cautious doing another corporate takeover story. Too much similar ground can be the kiss of boredom. FFF might be overboard. Same with Mandarin. I think you can still stick to tech-based villains, but just another bad guy in a suit can be too similar to Iron Monger.
Titanium Man/Crimson Dynamo could also be done, along with Black Widow. Russia is still a wild card in today's world, however they work better in their Cold War days. Also, TM and CD have really silly names, and they'd have to dance around that. As much as I like them in the comics, I wouldn't use them in the films.
Mr. Wooden Alligator
05-28-2008, 08:30 PM
Given the heavy science-fiction elements with Iron Man, I don't really see how Mandarin or Fin Fang Foom are outside the realm of possibility at all. You just have to ease into the supernatural element, rather than through us smack dab in the middle of it.
Chewy
05-29-2008, 12:23 AM
Demon in a Bottle/War Machine; Villains: Mandarin/Fin Fang Foom.
That's where they should go from here.
Hypestyle
05-29-2008, 04:36 PM
they shouldn't force the demon in a bottle arc-- it would be too much too soon--
in the original comics, the "Demon" arc eventually led to State taking over the company, and Tony becomes a derelict for months on end (maybe a year or more in the comics), which is when Rhodey takes over..
-- in the movies, Stane is (presumed) dead.. Tony still controls the company-- he's re-established his good reputation, and goodwill toward Iron Man.. Plus, he's revealed himself to be Iron Man!
Opening the next movie with Tony going on a drunken bender and Iron Man crashing into an elementary school building would be too drastic, IMO.. how would he realistically dig himself out of that hole? He can't just "fire" himself, like in the comics..
and if "forced", it could come off as corny... maybe for part 3..
Rich Santoro
06-27-2008, 02:43 PM
I would definitely like to see the introduction of the Mandarin (played by Ken Watanabe)
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_begins/ken_watanabe/begins1.jpg
The Ten Rings was mentioned in the first flick. The back story could be that he has been colluding with different separatist, rebellion, anti-government, insurrgent groups around the globe in a master plan to topple the current global power structure (hence the relationship with the Middle Eastern Terrorists... but, wait, there are others too). He was coordinating with these groups to procur arms and technology (establishing the relationship with Obadia Stane)... which could lead to a tie-in with Hammer as another arms dealer relationship, and to Crimson Dynamo, Ultimo, etc.. There are a lot of ways to create some linkages to broaden the story for more sequels and for cross-overs into Cap, Thor, Avengers...
The rings can be introduced as having been discovered by Chinese Geologists after an Earthquake (originally as individual stones), and the Mandarin got hold of them when he was employed by the Chinese Government. He is still jaded over the Communist revolution that ended his families status within the "noble" class... and longs to over throw the Communist regime. Now he has evolved into a full-on megalomaniac. The stones can be established as extraterrestrial in origin, but then leave it at that (so that we don't get too hokey... no alien ship or tech... he is just a tech genius on his own, plus all the tech he has been acquiring through deals). He experiments to discover that the stones are composed of a high energy material that respond differently to different kinds of stimulus... He devises gauntlents with the rings so that he can trigger each stone's power by exposing them to small amounts of electricity, heat, cold, magnetism, chemicals, etc... thereby triggering their effects.
This could be developed to create a real powerhouse character with genius, resources, minions and personal powers to face any hero and/or team.
The IronMan
07-17-2008, 09:33 PM
I think the ten rings idea needs to be brought out more in the second film.Introduce Justin Hammer and a non armor wearing villian.Have a scene where Tony is developing the war machine armor with maybe a picture of Rhodey super imposed wearing the armor.At the same time Tony going through his battle with alcohol.I dont want too much out of the sequel just all of this and more.
jokerface89
08-08-2008, 02:15 AM
For the sequel bring in the Mandarin if they don't use the Mandarin maybe they could bring in the Crimson Dynamo or Titanium Man and bring in tonys alcoholic problem,they should also work something into to the story about how stark told the public he is iron man
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