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IRON MAN 2010
05-08-2008, 08:45 AM
The below link talks about a scoop on the possible plot line for Iron Man 2.
The same site Cinema Blend.com also as a news article that talks about Robert Downey, jr possibly not being a lock to reprising the role of Iron Man in the sequel.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Iron-Man-2-Plot-And-Villain-Details-8736.html
Thanks.
athena
05-08-2008, 09:09 AM
We don’t know if the ten rings will still be a part of the character, but our scooper does say he’ll “have a monster at his disposal by the name of Fin Fang Foom.” That might be a nice change of pace. Give Iron Man something to fight besides his mirror image in a bigger suit. Meanwhile Fin Fang Foom also plays a role in Iron Man comic lore. In the comics, he’s an extraterrestrial dragon.
If -- I say IF -- this is true, then I'm in Heaven!!
FaT_tONle
05-08-2008, 09:21 AM
God that sounds horrible... they might as well call this film IM and the mini Avengers... please tell me this report is trash... here I told myself I wasn't going to panic in that I thought they'd keep the crossovers to cameos at minimum... if we start getting tag teams I will lose all faith. Don't mess up a good thing Marvel.
Spider-Fan
05-08-2008, 10:53 AM
We were rumored to get more cameos in IM than we got, so maybe they will realize that overloading the movie with cameos and giving Thor a prominant role is not a good idea.
Fury sending him after the Mandarin would be fair game, though. The other ideas, not so much.
Not a fan of this one. Leave the teaming up for the Avengers film, please. I'd love to see cameos, cameos of all sorts and sizes in various parts of the movie... I have no problem establishing that Iron Man is in a universe which has other super powered people in it. No problem at all. But if you have an Iron Man movie with elements that are only related to Iron Man in a cursory fashion... well... that's kinda weak to me.
athena
05-08-2008, 01:05 PM
Well, there's also this: http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080507n.php
The Guard
05-08-2008, 01:07 PM
If that's true, it would appear Marvel isn't confident in their ability to sell The Avengers or Thor on their own merits. I'd much prefer to see the Iron Man characters fleshed out instead. This rumored plot sounds a bit too crowded, and the movie would likely suffer for it.
steven person
05-08-2008, 01:42 PM
what i posted......
ok sourpuss.dont get snipy.first.stark ind goes red from tony saying...no more arms..then dive into booze.bad guys pops up....tony falls apart and cant be a good hero anymore due to bozzing.he loses a battle.fury is brought in somehow.rhodes goes to help him by being war machine...he gets messed up.either helping tony in a battle or doing battle alone.tony finds movtation in tokens ass kicking.stops drinking and pops off said villian...now i dont believe the madrian will have a full role in this.....cause then like most marvel movies,they will kill him to piss all of u off.maybe a shadowy figure barking orders to ultran or some killable villian...by the time this movies comes out....this is whats going to happen.quote me.i might be wrong on the minor things.but it will flow like that.its not what anyone likes but hey....its hollywood......they dont work for u.i say give the role of "make im2" to you guys....with actual talkng out ideas and money involved....it would be a good movie.
hummmm he shoots....he scores....with ur gf.
Rocker22
05-08-2008, 02:25 PM
Well it seems, like Downey said, he is already getting ready for the sequel:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9575/0508robertdowneyjrnpg02ns8.jpg
FaT_tONle
05-08-2008, 02:47 PM
By doing this... you are only diminishing the value of Avengers... the whole lure of doing a cross over movie... is too see heroes in their own little worlds and stories finally coming together after quite some time for an event... doing team ups here and there and extended scenes will only diminish the value Avengers would have had... they obviously have no confidence in Thor... damn shame really... that they are going to use Iron Man 2 to cross promote... this is treading WB territory... no joke.
As Thor will debue like a few months after Iron Man 2, it's actually quite a clever business plan. Thor gets piggybacked by Iron Man.
I think it goes a step up from Fury's appearance to show that there is now a real shared universe.
Iron Man faces odds so desperate from Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom that Shield calls in another superhero to save Tony from dieing.
Sounds epic to me.
Chris B
05-08-2008, 04:32 PM
I don't mind Fury having a larger role. I'm not really that crazy about the Mandarin having a giant monster at his disposal. But if it happens, then I would rather see Ultimo than Fin Fang Foom.
And if they want another hero working with Tony, then it should only be Rhodey. Thor having a cameo is fine, but shouldn't have a large role. Giving people like the Black Widow and Hawkeye cameos/supporting role would be overkill, IMO.
athena
05-08-2008, 05:01 PM
Chief among those is Thor, who may show up in more than just a cameo, possibly helping Iron Man. Thor has his own movie coming out the same summer Iron Man 2 hits, so that makes a certain kind of sense.
Actually, if Thor's got his own movie coming out that very same summer then it's much less likely that he'll have any role in IM2. Why have him take up screen time in the IM sequel when he's going to have 2 whole hours to himself later? I'm guessing if he appears in it, it'll be a cameo at most.
FaT_tONle
05-08-2008, 07:06 PM
My question is when the heck are they getting War Machine in this? Avengers? Why would you need a tag team with another hero when you got Rhodes sitting on the bench? I mean I can get the SHIELD agents like Black Widow and Hawkeye possibly contributing (I think those two should be put in a spinoff film first though)... I'd just prefer Nick Fury being the main "outside" guy if anything... maybe Thor appearing after the credits.
JokerLedger
05-08-2008, 09:24 PM
Ironman, War Machine, Mandarin.
That's all I need in a sequel. No matter how cool all these marvel movies link together to lead into an Avengers movie, I hate how these solo pictures are being used as catalysts to do that. Doing a standalone and providing subtle hints in the movie is good enough... just give us a tease and nothing more.
Superhero 101
05-08-2008, 09:33 PM
they ned to start casting Thor if they are serious.
As for Hawkeye and Black Widow cameos they should be in a after credit scene
FaT_tONle
05-08-2008, 10:05 PM
I do get characters like Hawkeye and Black Widow in that their early issues had them involved with Stark's company and such... the movie could explain how those two were recruited by the SHIELD after being exposed orignally as villains. They wouldn't have more than a cameo or just supporting scenes with Nick Fury (but its a waste unless they intend to use those characters in more featured roles in the future which is probably too far down the line anyway). But Thor should definitely be post credit.
Iron_Stark
05-09-2008, 08:40 AM
I agree with JokerLedger, Iron Man, War Machine and Mandarin should be the only ones in the sequel. If they add Fin Fang Foom, I wouldn't have a problem with it, just don't give him purple shorts and he better not talk.
Hawkeye and Black Widow should be only cameos, only shown on the Hellicarrier when Fury is enlisting Tony to go after Mandarin.
Thor should be post credits.
athena
05-09-2008, 11:33 AM
If they add Fin Fang Foom, I wouldn't have a problem with it, just don't give him purple shorts and he better not talk.
Yeah, hate the stupid purple shorts! I read somewhere that they only put those on him because comic censors at the time couldn't cope with the idea of a "naked" dragon!:huh:
I haven't seen the animated movie but I don't think Foom talked in it, I think they just made him a regular monster.
Fin Fang Foom put you in his pants!
Mal'Akai
05-09-2008, 11:33 PM
My god!! You guys get a scent of a possible rumor of a rumor of what someone else said, to a friend while drunk, and you're ready to shoot things down. -sigh-
Hawkeye and Black Widow. http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8320/iconheadbangix8.gif
Ironman, War Machine, Mandarin.
That's all I need in a sequel. No matter how cool all these marvel movies link together to lead into an Avengers movie, I hate how these solo pictures are being used as catalysts to do that. Doing a standalone and providing subtle hints in the movie is good enough... just give us a tease and nothing more.
Absolutely.
They just do something riiiiiiiiight at the end to warrant Thor's end-of-movie-15second-appearance attention, and movie done.
Mario_Galaxy
05-10-2008, 10:18 AM
I wouldn't put too much faith in this report. I remember after Spider-Man came out we were supposed to get Man-Wolf as the main villain in the sequel as well as Vulture and Black Cat.
CaptainStacy
05-10-2008, 10:28 AM
If that's true, it would appear Marvel isn't confident in their ability to sell The Avengers or Thor on their own merits.
Or maybe they just like doing cool things to please the hardcore fans?
CaptainStacy
05-10-2008, 10:30 AM
I agree with JokerLedger, Iron Man, War Machine and Mandarin should be the only ones in the sequel. If they add Fin Fang Foom, I wouldn't have a problem with it, just don't give him purple shorts and he better not talk.
Hawkeye and Black Widow should be only cameos, only shown on the Hellicarrier when Fury is enlisting Tony to go after Mandarin.
Thor should be post credits.
Maybe it wont even be Thor, per se.... Maybe Don Blake instead? I mean, Stark DOES have a heart condition, no?
Knightsaber Priss
05-10-2008, 02:02 PM
Oh my God, I was just kidding when I stated I wanted to see Fin Fang Foom in a sequel in another thread devoted to Villain suggestions.
FaT_tONle
05-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Maybe it wont even be Thor, per se.... Maybe Don Blake instead? I mean, Stark DOES have a heart condition, no?
Blake wasn't even in the first script... and Blake in IM would serve no point whatsoever unless you are just tributing the fans (they'd have to show Thor in person for audiences to make that connection). If Thor is in it... its either a cameo showing why he came to Earth (which makes no sense in that you can easily explain that in his own movie and you don't need IM to do that)... or more likely... they are using IM2 to springboard Thor because they don't want it to flop outright... sort of like WB's previous line of thinking with Justice League (at least their former plan). I hope Marvel wises up. Its still too early. Having Thor in any way shape or form in an IM sequel in more than a cameo role will be a disaster.
TheVileOne
05-10-2008, 06:39 PM
I definitely want to see Fin Fang Foom. Jon Favreau is writing a mini-series right now for Iron Man where the main villain is Fin Fang Foom. So why not?
However, I think the reasonable expectation for the sequel is the DEMON IN A BOTTLE STORY. Where will that fit in?
athena
05-10-2008, 07:06 PM
I definitely want to see Fin Fang Foom. Jon Favreau is writing a mini-series right now for Iron Man where the main villain is Fin Fang Foom. So why not?
He is? Cool! Do you have a link with more info?
However, I think the reasonable expectation for the sequel is the DEMON IN A BOTTLE STORY. Where will that fit in?
I saw a quote from the filmmakers somewhere that Demon in a Bottle is the one they most want to do. I'll see if I can find it...
athena
05-10-2008, 07:13 PM
Oops, nevermind, found it myself:
"I'm writing a comic book now with Adi Granov where Fin Fang Foom is the bad guy. That's what I want to see, but I don't know if I want that in the movie right now. Eventually I'd love to get to the point where the movie could accept that and you could develop a reality where that could work."
Sounds like Favreau understands the difficulties, but still would like to try it. I hope he does. Anyway, he's done a great job so far.
Ironfan72
05-10-2008, 07:20 PM
My hope is they stay close to Iron Man's universe, introducing characters like Bethany Cabe. Iron Man's universe is deverse and strong enough to support several sequals.
They can explore other business rivals like Roxxon and Justin Hammer, villains like Spymaster, Ghost and Whitney Frost aka Madam Masque.
And of course, give me War Machine, Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man and MANDARIN!!!
I have no problem with introducing other hero's but not to the point of taking away from Iron Man story arcs.
Nathan
05-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Iron Man, War Machine, Mandarin, Fing Fang Foom, Nick Fury & S.H.I.E.L.D.. That's really all we need for the sequel. Maybe even Black Widow, as a cameo, but call her by her real name.
jerky123
05-10-2008, 08:12 PM
Iron Man, War Machine, Mandarin, Fing Fang Foom, Nick Fury & S.H.I.E.L.D.. That's really all we need for the sequel. Maybe even Black Widow, as a cameo, but call her by her real name.
You took the words right out of my mouth, except for the fact that they should hint other hero's in The Avengers on the new's and Tony would talk to Fury about the hero's he saw and one's that he woud like to join The Avengers.:stark
TheVileOne
05-10-2008, 09:02 PM
Well obviously if Iron Man is going to exist in the same universe as Thor, et all you can't continue to be close-minded about the Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom.
It's true that something like Fin Fang Foom would be too much for the first movie. But you can't keep denying these characters and their history if Iron Man is going to exist with the likes of THOR, THE GOD OF THUNDER.
AragornKing1
05-10-2008, 09:12 PM
Well obviously if Iron Man is going to exist in the same universe as Thor, et all you can't continue to be close-minded about the Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom.
It's true that something like Fin Fang Foom would be too much for the first movie. But you can't keep denying these characters and their history if Iron Man is going to exist with the likes of THOR, THE GOD OF THUNDER.
Exactly. Thank you.
Well obviously if Iron Man is going to exist in the same universe as Thor, et all you can't continue to be close-minded about the Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom.
It's true that something like Fin Fang Foom would be too much for the first movie. But you can't keep denying these characters and their history if Iron Man is going to exist with the likes of THOR, THE GOD OF THUNDER.
Some people just can't get that the Iron Man and Thor universe is one and the same.
Funny and most of these 'questioners' were probably rejoicing not a week ago when this news came out. Now it's unbelievable. God I'm starting to hate that (and 'realism') term.
FaT_tONle
05-10-2008, 09:38 PM
SO how are dragons so appealing anyhow? Have we not got enough dragons in Hollywood? Why don't we just focus on Mandarin being the main badass with henchmen and superior technology at his disposal? It would just go to show how Mandarin is that much a threat all by himself. Being that not only would we be getting him... but apparently we are getting Thor, Hawkeye, Widow... Nick Fury... when is it going to stop? And where is the screen time going to go? You guys can't have it both ways... with all these characters you are cutting War Machine... Potts... and Stark. Even if those guys I mentioned are cameos... Nick Fury is already going to be a supporting player... we can't afford much more than that. Frankly I don't care if we get Foom... but the idea of stacking IM with a bunch of heroes just to show that they are in the same universe is extra baggage we don't need... that story can be told at another time. Like someone said earlier all we need is Fury, Mandarin, and WM. If they use Foom for that last major battle that's fine. But anything beyond that and we'll have another overcrowded mess on our hands only it will come across as more cheezy than good.
1) why didn't anyone tell me to stay after the end credits to see Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury??!
2) the name Fin Fang Foom sounds so lame. i hope in the movie they just call him by Foom or something.
3) i've heard that Jon Favreau and Robert Downey Jr have been already collaborating about what to do for Iron Man 2. also, Downey recently said we can expect the beginning sequence of Iron Man 2 to be an incredible fight scene that's gonna blow our minds.
4) we don't necessarily need Thor in the movie, since we already have Iron Man and War Machine teaming up together to fight Foom and Mandarin. but i understand that Marvel Studios would love to build even more hype by giving Thor a cameo in IM2 leading up to Thor's movie release later that summer. i would actually enjoy seeing a cameo.
plus, i think it might be able to work, because since Foom is some alien mythical dragon type creature, perhaps it would take someone like Thor to enter the universe and destroy him or bring him into Thor's homeworld or something. and maybe it can continue into the storyline for Thor's movie.
but whatever the case, it should most likely be a a small cameo.
i think the main plot should revolve around either Tony Stark or Rhodey being in trouble by the hands of the Mandarin. and one of them has to save the other.
AragornKing1
05-11-2008, 12:41 AM
1) why didn't anyone tell me to stay after the end credits to see Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury??!
2) the name Fin Fang Foom sounds so lame. i hope in the movie they just call him by Foom or something.
3) i've heard that Jon Favreau and Robert Downey Jr have been already collaborating about what to do for Iron Man 2. also, Downey recently said we can expect the beginning sequence of Iron Man 2 to be an incredible fight scene that's gonna blow our minds.
4) we don't necessarily need Thor in the movie, since we already have Iron Man and War Machine teaming up together to fight Foom and Mandarin. but i understand that Marvel Studios would love to build even more hype by giving Thor a cameo in IM2 leading up to Thor's movie release later that summer. i would actually enjoy seeing a cameo.
plus, i think it might be able to work, because since Foom is some alien mythical dragon type creature, perhaps it would take someone like Thor to enter the universe and destroy him or bring him into Thor's homeworld or something. and maybe it can continue into the storyline for Thor's movie.
but whatever the case, it should most likely be a a small cameo.
i think the main plot should revolve around either Tony Stark or Rhodey being in trouble by the hands of the Mandarin. and one of them has to save the other.
Yes, I agree that the only superheroes that will help Iron Man will be Nick Fury and War Machine. Thor, the Hulk, Hawkeye, and Black Widow I'm sure are just going to be cameos like Nick Fury in the first Iron Man. Also, when did Robert Downey Jr say that the beginning of Iron Man 2 will be an incredible fight scene.
guys, i was just reading up on Thor's biography on wikipedia. and you're right, there definitely should be a cameo of Donald Blake(Thor's alter ego) in Iron Man 2 as some disabled medical student or doctor. then, when the Thor movie comes out later that summer, they can do an origin movie using that same Donald Blake actor. that would be really cool.
plus, it could set things up even more for an Avengers movie, because i was reading wikipedia and it said this: Loki uses the Hulk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29) as a lure to draw Thor out; while this proved successful, it resulted in the formation of the superhero team the Avengers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_%28comics%29), of which Thor is a founding and longstanding member.
therefore, the Hulk, Iron Man, and Thor movies all should serve as foreshadowing for an Avengers movie!
Also, when did Robert Downey Jr say that the beginning of Iron Man 2 will be an incredible fight scene.
i heard it on the radio last week. and that got my juices pumping with excitement.
RonStoppablefan
05-11-2008, 03:17 PM
Hawkeye and Black Widow. http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8320/iconheadbangix8.gif
Hey I'm all for this idea, but I don't want Thor to play to big of a part. Just have hi be after the credits some how. I don't want a heroe from another series to team up with Iron Man here, thats what Avengers is for.
Edit;
I'm glad Mandarin is a villain for he 2 movie. Of course we need WarMachine. Awesome wicked battle scene at that start? That would be the way to do things there.
Spider-Vader
05-11-2008, 05:53 PM
I don't mind Fing Fang Foom.
CaptainStacy
05-11-2008, 06:16 PM
guys, i was just reading up on Thor's biography on wikipedia. and you're right, there definitely should be a cameo of Donald Blake(Thor's alter ego) in Iron Man 2 as some disabled medical student or doctor. then, when the Thor movie comes out later that summer, they can do an origin movie using that same Donald Blake actor. that would be really cool.
plus, it could set things up even more for an Avengers movie, because i was reading wikipedia and it said this: Loki uses the Hulk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29) as a lure to draw Thor out; while this proved successful, it resulted in the formation of the superhero team the Avengers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_%28comics%29), of which Thor is a founding and longstanding member.
therefore, the Hulk, Iron Man, and Thor movies all should serve as foreshadowing for an Avengers movie!
i heard it on the radio last week. and that got my juices pumping with excitement.
Exactly. How someone equates an after credits appearance by Don Blake in IM2 with a "disaster" is beyond ME.
Armored Avenger
05-12-2008, 03:32 PM
I think Fing Fang Foom could work really well in the film, especially if he is serving, or under the command of, the Mandarin. The fight scenes between Iron Man and Fing Fang Foom would have amazing visuals.
AragornKing1
05-12-2008, 03:50 PM
I think Fing Fang Foom could work really well in the film, especially if he is serving, or under the command of, the Mandarin. The fight scenes between Iron Man and Fing Fang Foom would have amazing visuals.
Didn't you say that Jon Favreau was developing the Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom for the sequel? Well, what Cinema Blend reported on the plot and villains sounds true and legit.
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