View Full Version : Gwen Stacy: love interest?
Leenie
05-25-2008, 02:09 AM
Now, I will be the first one to admit that I've been loving The Spectacular Spider-Man. In fact, I find myself to be really enjoying this MUCH more than the 90's cartoon.
I do have one problem/concern about the direction that the show is heading, though. Have the writers been aiming for Gwen Stacy to be one of Peter's love interests? If so, then I don't believe that they have done a very convincing job at it.
Here are the things that lead me to believe what I believe:
Gwen acts more like an Aunt May clone than a friend ... And Peter more or less treats her as such. She sure does like to nag a lot, which doesn't convince me that she and Peter could develop a romantic connection.
When Mary Jane was introduced in the show, I assumed that a love triangle involving Gwen would happen. Black Cat's appearance in the show has led me to believe otherwise. With this other female character in the picture, it seems to me that Gwen is being pushed more and more out of the picture.Now, I could be totally wrong about this, especially since there's a lot more of the show to come out. Perhaps the introduction of Venom will change things with Gwen, since she plays a part with Eddie Brock's boiling anger towards Peter.
Anyway, what are your thoughts about this? Agree? Disagree? I want to know what everyone thinks. :yay:
Syncos
05-25-2008, 03:11 AM
Right now Pete's shown an interest in Mary Jane, Liz Allen, and Betty Brant.
Gwen seems to be the reliable old friend who he's used to, and takes for granted. It'll definitely take something happening for him to even notice that she has feelings for him. Possibly his fight with Brock.
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 05:12 AM
Sure, for the time being, Peter doesn't seem to consider Gwen like a "woman" but like an old friend. The Venom arc could change things, I think. Anybody here thinks that we coud have a development like in USM, with her ending up living with Peter and her aunt??? I don't know if this show is "serious" enough to involve the kind of story that lead to this in USM (about the b**** that is her mother...).
Hurm...
05-25-2008, 05:45 AM
In an interview, they said that Gwen will slowly progress into the lovely, hot lady we knew in the comics. They wanted to SHOW the progression from nerd to Smokin!
Eventually Peter's eyes will be like this :wow:
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 06:53 AM
I don't know... for Peter's eyes to be "like these", as you say, the change would have to be drastic, sudden and surprising. If she slowly changes and Peter is still around here to witness it "slowly" too, wouldn't he get accustomed to it over time? But if they don't see each other for a long time, then that scene could occur :woot:
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 11:32 AM
Yea they will likely have a relationship develop between peter and gwen.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 11:44 AM
Yea they will likely have a relationship develop between peter and gwen.
idk about peter but i know that Eddie Brock is going to have some relationship with her.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 11:51 AM
well since they are fans of the classics we are bound do see relationships between peter and liz, peter and mj, and peter and gwen at various points in the series. Plus we have no clue how much brock/venom will be showing up after the season finale at this point in time.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 12:00 PM
well since they are fans of the classics we are bound do see relationships between peter and liz, peter and mj, and peter and gwen at various points in the series. Plus we have no clue how much brock/venom will be showing up after the season finale at this point in time.
Well isn't the last episode Venom?
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 12:02 PM
From what we know Venom is likely to be in the full episode which is episode 13 and we likely see brock get turned into venom at the end of episode 12. I was saying we have no clue how often we will see brock/Venom appearing post season 1.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 12:06 PM
From what we know Venom is likely to be in the full episode which is episode 13 and we likely see brock get turned into venom at the end of episode 12. I was saying we have no clue how often we will see brock/Venom appearing post season 1.
I think they might do a homage from the movie but, Venom get destroyed differently.
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 12:08 PM
I read in an interview that in the episode 13, Peter would certainly learn what kind of girl he needs, as before he only thought he knew what kind of girl he wants... hint to something???
Link for the interview (just so that I can find it quickly) : http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=149190
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 12:09 PM
well yea i personally dont want to see them kill brock i would like either peter some how removes the symboite from him and think he destroyed the symboite but it runs off and can return at a later time. Then brock gets sent to jail/loony bin so he could return at a later time. Or maybe they cant separate the symboite from brock so peter defeats venom and the cops/shield lock him up with the symboite in a high tech prision cell.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 12:11 PM
I read in an interview that in the episode 13, Peter would certainly learn what kind of girl he needs, as before he only thought he knew what kind of girl he wants... hint to something???
Mary jane!! It obviously simple. Peter always been involve with her,Comic,movies so it has to be mary jane.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 12:13 PM
well yea i personally dont want to see them kill brock i would like either peter some how removes the symboite from him and think he destroyed the symboite but it runs off and can return at a later time. Then brock gets sent to jail/loony bin so he could return at a later time. Or maybe they cant separate the symboite from brock so peter defeats venom and the cops/shield lock him up with the symboite in a high tech prision cell.
well yea that can work but i really would like to see the symbiote returning to cleatus classy (i don't know his name fully) but i would like to see the symbiote return.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 12:13 PM
well yes mj is the one he does/did end up with in the comics but he also was with gwen too. So for all we know they could have peter have relationships for variety of time with liz, gwen and mj.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 12:15 PM
well yea that can work but i really would like to see the symbiote returning to cleatus classy (i don't know his name fully) but i would like to see the symbiote return.
Well i dont know if they are going to do carnage in this series, i think i heard Greg doesnt want to do him. If Venom is jailed/ symboited destroyed(or so we think) we are likely just ot see it hiding out and then at some point return to eddie.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 12:16 PM
Well i dont know if they are going to do carnage in this series, i think i heard Greg doesnt want to do him. If Venom is jailed/ symboited destroyed(or so we think) we are likely just ot see it hiding out and then at some point return to eddie.
i expect to see Eddie popping in & out.
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 12:19 PM
Mary jane!! It obviously simple. Peter always been involve with her,Comic,movies so it has to be mary jane.
Not immediatly I think. So far, MJ is more in the category (I quote the interview) "Peter thinks he knows what he wants in terms of women", while I can perfectly see Gwen in the category "he’s going to find out for sure what he’s going to need", mainly because they say that he will "discover" something, and so far he certainly doesn't know anything Gwen's feelings!
Spider-ManHero12
05-25-2008, 12:21 PM
Well, IMO, I think they are handleing Peter & Gwens' relationship perfectly. I mean, Peter and Gwen haven't really hooked up yet, but I think I see see a bright future for them being togeather. Most likely season 2 or 3.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 12:23 PM
Not immediatly I think. So far, MJ is more in the category (I quote the interview) "Peter thinks he knows what he wants in terms of women", while I can perfectly see Gwen in the category "he’s going to find out for sure what he’s going to need", mainly because they say that he will "discover" something, and so far he certainly doesn't know anything Gwen's feelings!
Well yea i would like to see peter at least care more about Gwen,it really pissed me off to see Peter leaving poor Gwen like that but peter is somehow going to see that side of her and his-self
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 12:37 PM
Most likely season 2 or 3.
Yeah, as soon as Peter discovers that she is not only a wonderful human being, but also a wonderful girl :woot:
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 12:42 PM
Yeah, as soon as Peter discovers that she is not only a wonderful human being, but also a wonderful girl :woot:
won't be long.:word:
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 12:53 PM
yea as i said we are bound to see peter be with gwen, liz and then end up with mj by the end of the series.
Spider-ManHero12
05-25-2008, 01:02 PM
yea as i said we are bound to see peter be with gwen, liz and then end up with mj by the end of the series. Yeah, that's how I see it to.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 01:11 PM
Yea and since the producers are fans of the classic peroid we are bound to see peter and gwen date for a little, then him date liz for a bit possibly and then by the time series end/if they do dvd films he would then be with mj.
Spectacular23
05-25-2008, 01:14 PM
Yea and since the producers are fans of the classic peroid we are bound to see peter and gwen date for a little, then him date liz for a bit possibly and then by the time series end/if they do dvd films he would then be with mj.
OH YEA.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 01:18 PM
Yea there is plently of time for them to have peter be with gwen for a bit, liz for a bit and then mj too. They want to do 5 seasons/65 episodes+ so that is loads of enough time for him to be with them all for variety of time.
Venomfan
05-25-2008, 01:55 PM
I mean, Peter and Gwen haven't really hooked up yet, but I think I see see a bright future for them being togeather.
if there sticking to the comics there isn't anything bright about their future lol:cwink:
anyway they pretty much turned Gwen into Chloe from Smallville. i think she would have worked better if they kept it like the comics and made her the hot girl and not the nerd girl, and just have her be a nice person and such and get along with both the popular crowd and the geeks
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 02:04 PM
Well apart from the geek part, she reminds me of Gwen Stacy from Ultimate (in fact, the only Gwen Stacy I know well) : sharp tongue and quite protective with Peter sometimes...
Anwar
05-25-2008, 02:04 PM
If she was a popular hot chick then MJ would be redundant. Making Gwen a geek (for while) at least makes her attraction to Peter (whose a former geek that's now becoming more confidant, powerful and assertive) more logical.
Spiderine
05-25-2008, 02:52 PM
I think as time goes on Gwen will start to show dramatic changes in her appearances and personality.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 03:05 PM
Yea and i think greg or cook said that in interviews too.
Spider-ManHero12
05-25-2008, 03:13 PM
if there sticking to the comics there isn't anything bright about their future lol:cwink: Lol. :woot:
Anwar
05-25-2008, 03:54 PM
I do have to wonder what will happen to Peter's social status and his relationship with Gwen and the other Midtown kids after this arc. He's likely going to do some stuff he can't take back or cover up (if he uses his powers to publicly beat up Flash Thompson or something).
Venomfan
05-25-2008, 06:22 PM
If she was a popular hot chick then MJ would be redundant. .
no it wouldnt??? they're entirely different characters, the only thing thats similar at all is that they like Pete, they're girls, and they're hot, although MJ is supposed to be hotter
Anwar
05-25-2008, 06:27 PM
They'd both be hot chicks, they'd both be popular, they'd both like Peter, making Gwen more of a geek at least for now (even though she actually is pretty good looking) differentiates them in social status enough for it to work.
Venomfan
05-25-2008, 06:34 PM
well it worked fine and arguably better in the comics so i don't see why it wouldn't here
Anwar
05-25-2008, 06:37 PM
In the comics they met in College where the social scene is more mature and different than in High School.
Valorman
05-25-2008, 07:02 PM
gwen and peter will become romanticly linked, greg weisman stated that she'd go through a 'make-over' over the course of the series during that period as well.
Anwar
05-25-2008, 07:08 PM
Who knows, if Peter gets a darker makeover due to the symbiote then maybe Gwen would temporarily become Carnage (due to Eddie) and get a makeover in the process, opting to keep the new look when it's over.
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 07:15 PM
Becoming Carnage didn't change her that much in USM. Oh wait, she was already "gorgeous" before :woot: The only Spider-Man serie I know well and Peter has to be with MJ all through it :csad: Don't know why, but poor MJ was always second choice for me, right after the blonde, Felicia in TAS or Gwen in USM.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 07:16 PM
As i said we are likely over the course of the whole series/possible dvd films to see peter hook up with gwen, liz, mj.
Anwar
05-25-2008, 07:23 PM
Yeah, I'm wondering if they'll introduce Ann Weying as a University student for Eddie to become involved with.
Come to think of it, maybe they should have had Ann in this version for her to leave Eddie over the course of the Venom arc right before he becomes Venom.
Spiderine
05-25-2008, 07:23 PM
Can someone explain how the hell they chose to make Gwen Carnage?
Spiderine
05-25-2008, 07:23 PM
Can someone explain how the hell they chose to make Gwen Carnage?
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 07:26 PM
no she wasnt the original carnage. The orignal carnage which was jsut a monster creature made from connors and peter's and i think peter's father dna and it went on a killing spree and attacked and killed gwen at the parker house. The real gwen died and this new gwen is a clone i believe and also has part of the dna of carnage creature. I am not totally sure i dont remember it fully.
Spiderine
05-25-2008, 07:30 PM
So, Carnage is a crossblend of Lizard and Spiderman DNA? I think I liked Cletus better.
Anwar
05-25-2008, 07:32 PM
Well, making Carnage some mindless killing machine (which is what he really is) is better than just having him be a Joker wannabe.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 07:33 PM
no the thing i believe their was apart of the venom suit left over and connors was working on it and mixed his dna and peter's dna in and it created carnage.
i love the fact that they brought Mary Jane into the mix, for some foreshadowing.
but i love that Gwen Stacy is right there too, and he must go thru her first.
see, this is why i love this cartoon storyline better than the Spider-Man movies storyline.
they should've had Gwen Stacy be the love interest in the first couple films, then build up the anticipation of Mary Jane entering Peter's life. that would've given the franchise more legs.
Spider-ManHero12
05-25-2008, 07:40 PM
gwen and peter will become romanticly linked, greg weisman stated that she'd go through a 'make-over' over the course of the series during that period as well. I'm looknig foward to that. It's going to be interesting seeing how that happens.
Anwar
05-25-2008, 07:51 PM
i love the fact that they brought Mary Jane into the mix, for some foreshadowing.
but i love that Gwen Stacy is right there too, and he must go thru her first.
see, this is why i love this cartoon storyline better than the Spider-Man movies storyline.
they should've had Gwen Stacy be the love interest in the first couple films, then build up the anticipation of Mary Jane entering Peter's life. that would've given the franchise more legs.
Raimi wanted Gwen to be the love interest in SM1, but Avi Arad told him that it would be too depressing for Peter to lose his Uncle AND his love interest in the same movie (since they were clear the bad guy was to be Norman and he would be killed).
When David Fincher was nominated for the director spot he definitely wanted to do the Death of Gwen Stacy as the story for movie 1 and seeing how it's David Fincher that's not surprising :cwink:.
Don Yoyo
05-25-2008, 07:54 PM
Any chance of having Gwen being Peter's love interest without having her dying? Or to "switch" between her and MJ? Why do I ask? I already know th answer is "no".
The real gwen died and this new gwen is a clone i believe and also has part of the dna of carnage creature. I am not totally sure i dont remember it fully.
It has never been truly explained :yay: Clone or the real Gwen who "merged" somehow with Carnage? Hope the next arc will enlighten us.
ReggieWhiteJr
05-25-2008, 08:13 PM
Greg W said that Gwen will do some growing through out the series so I don't at all mind seeing Gwen be a bit geeky. In fact, this show has my fav version of the character.
I believe Peter will get with Gwen eventually. It just may take him some time to realize that what he needs is right there in front of him.
Anwar
05-25-2008, 08:31 PM
All the other important chars did growing up as the series went on. Harry was originally one of Peter's tormentors before he grew up and they were friends, Flash grew up a LOT and became a friend of Peter's, Liz grew up and became...well a mess but that was mainly due to Harry's mental state, MJ grew up and quit being a ditz to reveal she had depth.
So it makes sense that Gwen would do a lot of growing up and change as the series goes on, especially seeing how she's only 16.
Spider-ManHero12
05-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Can someone explain how the hell they chose to make Gwen Carnage? I really don't know since I don't read Ultimate Spider-Man.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 08:42 PM
i already gave him somewhat of an answer spider-manhero12
Spider-ManHero12
05-25-2008, 08:46 PM
i already gave him somewhat of an answer spider-manhero12 I know, I was just saying. :yay:
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 08:51 PM
Ok.
Spiderine
05-25-2008, 09:39 PM
Thanks, I don't read Ultimate either so I never understood the whole Gwen-Carnage thing. At least it wasn't Aunt may.
Spider-ManHero12
05-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Thanks, I don't read Ultimate either so I never understood the whole Gwen-Carnage thing. At least it wasn't Aunt may. Lol, Aunt Carnage.
Webhead2006
05-25-2008, 09:45 PM
lol yea.
Ratcrawler
05-27-2008, 05:34 AM
Peter: Oh Gwen, you're such a caring and loyal friend.
Gwen: Friend?
Peter: Don't worry, MJ will never take your place as my best pal, bro.
Gwen: Bro?
Peter: Sure, even closer than a sister. So close, we can share the same bed and never touch or kiss...Whoops, gotta go. Later, man!
Parquagh
05-27-2008, 01:46 PM
My guess is that at some point in the Venom-Spidey battle, Eddie will tell Peter what Gwen feels about him and he will realize that she's always been there for him so by next season Peter may be with Gwen, making Liz angry and MJ realize she actually has feelings for him, regretting the "we're friends pal".... that would bee cool, and to keep Gwen in her actual look, I mean she looks ok and it's more a matter of Peter noticing her inner beauty
Anwar
05-27-2008, 02:08 PM
It's a reverse of TAS then. There Brock told MJ that Peter truly did love her (which made her reconsider her own feelings for him) where here Brock may blurt out how Gwen feels for Peter when he's telling him why he wants to take him down.
rohitiyer
05-27-2008, 02:08 PM
My guess is that at some point in the Venom-Spidey battle, Eddie will tell Peter what Gwen feels about him and he will realize that she's always been there for him so by next season Peter may be with Gwen, making Liz angry and MJ realize she actually has feelings for him, regretting the "we're friends pal".... that would bee cool, and to keep Gwen in her actual look, I mean she looks ok and it's more a matter of Peter noticing her inner beauty
I would like this approach. :up:
Webhead2006
05-27-2008, 02:23 PM
yea that would be nice.
ReggieWhiteJr
05-27-2008, 05:52 PM
My guess is that at some point in the Venom-Spidey battle, Eddie will tell Peter what Gwen feels about him and he will realize that she's always been there for him so by next season Peter may be with Gwen, making Liz angry and MJ realize she actually has feelings for him, regretting the "we're friends pal".... that would bee cool, and to keep Gwen in her actual look, I mean she looks ok and it's more a matter of Peter noticing her inner beauty
Funny, I was also thinking this could happen. We'll just have to see how it goes but it is fun to speculate! :woot:
Leenie
05-27-2008, 09:20 PM
Ok, after reading through this thread, I have to say that I'm looking forward to the "transformation of Gwen" that the writers were talking about. I honestly haven't been paying attention to what the the crew has said about the show ... I've just been watching the show.
DACrowe
06-05-2008, 12:51 AM
I actually think this is rather interesting.
When the show began I suspect the writers intended for Gwen to have a bigger part. But then they introduced MJ and like what Stan Lee said, her character just outshines Gwen's and she is slowly becoming marginalized.
I PREDICT he will actually get pretty serious with Gwen in season 2, because I would bet all the whiskey in Ireland that it ends with Norman Osborn/the real GG killing Gwen Stacy (as season 1 built to Venom, that will be season 2's climax).
But on the way MJ has supplanted Gwen as the main squeeze because, simply put, MJ is a character that writes herself. And that writing is interesting. It is why despite all previous editorial board's best efforst (the Clone Saga and HORRID "reboot" in 2000), they couldn't get rid of MJ. It was why Quesada literally wrote her out of the last half of continuity (and proved he completely doesn't understand the characters in Spidey's universe. Albeit it may have been a smart business decision, time will tell).
Along the way they also have Betty Brant, a new and improved Liz Allen and Black Cat who are all getting more play than Gwen by Peter and the writers, because Gwen is the "perfect girl" for Peter. In that way they are boring once they are together, as there is little conflict.
Season 2 I imagine will be Peter realizing he loves Gwen and chasing her, getting her and then losing her. Season 3 will probably go darker and I imagine Black Cat will be more prominent there and by the end of the show (as long as it goes as far as the writers want) I bet he will still end up with MJ. Because no matter how hard some people fight it (Howard Mackie, John Bryan, Bob Haraas, JMS and of course Quesada), it always works out that way.
I find it an interesting dynamic that Stan Lee created and John Romita Sr. perfected. It is so strong, that it wrote itself. I mean when Conaway made MJ Peter's rock after Gwen's death or DeFalco turned her into his confidant, they were always intending for it to be temporary...yet it didn't happen that way. I imagine that is what is happening to an extent in this show.
Venomfan
06-05-2008, 12:55 AM
my gripe is just that she feels like Chloe from smallville in cartoon form
DACrowe
06-05-2008, 12:57 AM
i love the fact that they brought Mary Jane into the mix, for some foreshadowing.
but i love that Gwen Stacy is right there too, and he must go thru her first.
see, this is why i love this cartoon storyline better than the Spider-Man movies storyline.
they should've had Gwen Stacy be the love interest in the first couple films, then build up the anticipation of Mary Jane entering Peter's life. that would've given the franchise more legs.
I'm not a huge proponent of how MJ is depicted in the Spidey movies (i.e. I don't like it). I think it happened as a combination of Koepp writing a generic girlfriend in SM1 and Dunst giving lazy performances in the sequels that were only saved by the writing in SM2 and her chemistry with Maguire in all 3.
With that said I understand the logic behind making it just MJ. Raimi was making each movie to stand on its own and a trilogy to be his "interpretation." He, nor the producers, were operating under "countless sequels" or "a planned six movie saga," despite what fans want. Raimi was trying to get everything he wanted to say in 6 hours. That meant streamlining. Love was a major part of Peter Parker's life, but instead of having numerous love interests he narrowed it down to one. In fact I think Gwen Stacy being the "other woman" in SM3 shows the problems with having more than one. If he had introduced MJ as the other woman in the first movie and then killed Gwen off at the end of SM2 (as most fans propose as their trilogy), there is no way Peter would have been ready for a relationship with a secret-identity-knowing MJ at the end of SM3.
So, I understand the logic there. Albeit I still think MJ could have been much better written and performed. The only real positive thing I can say is she and Maguire had great chemistry so it made her endearing to the audience (in the first two, anyway).
Syncos
06-05-2008, 02:01 AM
I actually think this is rather interesting.
When the show began I suspect the writers intended for Gwen to have a bigger part. But then they introduced MJ and like what Stan Lee said, her character just outshines Gwen's and she is slowly becoming marginalized.
I PREDICT he will actually get pretty serious with Gwen in season 2, because I would bet all the whiskey in Ireland that it ends with Norman Osborn/the real GG killing Gwen Stacy (as season 1 built to Venom, that will be season 2's climax).
But on the way MJ has supplanted Gwen as the main squeeze because, simply put, MJ is a character that writes herself. And that writing is interesting. It is why despite all previous editorial board's best efforst (the Clone Saga and HORRID "reboot" in 2000), they couldn't get rid of MJ. It was why Quesada literally wrote her out of the last half of continuity (and proved he completely doesn't understand the characters in Spidey's universe. Albeit it may have been a smart business decision, time will tell).
Along the way they also have Betty Brant, a new and improved Liz Allen and Black Cat who are all getting more play than Gwen by Peter and the writers, because Gwen is the "perfect girl" for Peter. In that way they are boring once they are together, as there is little conflict.
Season 2 I imagine will be Peter realizing he loves Gwen and chasing her, getting her and then losing her. Season 3 will probably go darker and I imagine Black Cat will be more prominent there and by the end of the show (as long as it goes as far as the writers want) I bet he will still end up with MJ. Because no matter how hard some people fight it (Howard Mackie, John Bryan, Bob Haraas, JMS and of course Quesada), it always works out that way.
I find it an interesting dynamic that Stan Lee created and John Romita Sr. perfected. It is so strong, that it wrote itself. I mean when Conaway made MJ Peter's rock after Gwen's death or DeFalco turned her into his confidant, they were always intending for it to be temporary...yet it didn't happen that way. I imagine that is what is happening to an extent in this show.
Very well put. I agree with just about every point made here.
Anwar
06-05-2008, 04:52 AM
As for everyone who thinks Gwen will be killed off right off the bat, she won't. She isn't going to die in this series at all.
Webhead2006
06-05-2008, 10:48 AM
yea those are some nice ideas but didnt greg say in interviews and that podcast they are not likely killing gwen off in the series and will likely do it in one of those dtd films they hope to do once series is over.
Venom 1988
06-05-2008, 11:07 AM
^^^
No that was speculation on our part
Webhead2006
06-05-2008, 11:10 AM
i thought i did read he doesnt plan to kill her any time soon.
Venom 1988
06-05-2008, 11:16 AM
yea anytime soon, that could be anywhere from season 2 to the DVDs
DACrowe
06-05-2008, 11:24 AM
Indeed. Season 1 she is not supposed to die in (though I'm not sure they intended to marginalize her so much). Season 2 I think will build to Norman revealing himself as Peter Parker's greatest foe and peak when he kills the girl Peter realizes he loves -- Gwen Stacy.
Anwar
06-05-2008, 11:42 AM
Nah, that's too soon.
Heck, for all we know (since Hobgoblin will be in S3 that means Norman exits in S2) it might be the Bridge scene where Gwen finds out Peter is Spidey and their relationship really begins THEN and she stays on.
hpwiz89
06-05-2008, 01:48 PM
Is she even going to come back for the last two episodes?
Webhead2006
06-05-2008, 02:06 PM
there is a good chance.
Spider-ManHero12
06-05-2008, 03:34 PM
Is she even going to come back for the last two episodes? I'm pretty sure she will, but I could be wrong.
Don Yoyo
06-05-2008, 04:02 PM
Well, seeing how she is important to both Peter and Eddie, I would be surprised if she didn't make at least an apparition :huh:
Spider-ManHero12
06-05-2008, 04:28 PM
Well, seeing how she is important to both Peter and Eddie, I would be surprised if she didn't make at least an apparition :huh: Indeed, that's one of the reasons why I think she will be in the next two episodes. The third one especially.
DACrowe
06-05-2008, 05:30 PM
Calm down. I think MJ and Black Cat have stolen some of Gwen's spotlight, but the writers know what they're doing and how they're orchestrating the series. I expect her to be very prominent and the "main squeeze" in season 2 after the events that end this season. I don't expect to see her around much in season 3 or 4 though. ;)
hpwiz89
06-05-2008, 06:23 PM
Indeed, that's one of the reasons why I think she will be in the next two episodes. The third one especially.
Umm...aren't there only two episodes left? There is no third episode.
Spider-ManHero12
06-05-2008, 06:30 PM
Umm...aren't there only two episodes left? There is no third episode. Yeah, I met sceond. Also, I defenitely agree with you, DACrowe. :up:
I was exstatic to just recently find out that the voice of Gwen Stacey is provided by none other than the hot gorgeously sexy Lacey Chabert! oh yeah!
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20061005/244.chabert.lacey.100506.jpg
Anwar
06-05-2008, 08:20 PM
It would kind of suck for Gwen NOT to be in both "Intervention" and "Nature vs Nature", seeing how she's Peter's closest friend after Eddie (whose now his enemy) and Harry (whose out of the show for now) and likely would be the one to see how much he's changed.
As for the finale, well yeah she might show up to try and talk sense to Eddie (the cameras at the lab must catch Brock's transformation).
MattXG
06-09-2008, 10:20 AM
I love Gwen!
I hope they don't kill her...:csad:
MattXG
06-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Calm down. I think MJ and Black Cat have stolen some of Gwen's spotlight, but the writers know what they're doing and how they're orchestrating the series. I expect her to be very prominent and the "main squeeze" in season 2 after the events that end this season. I don't expect to see her around much in season 3 or 4 though. ;)
What if they go the Ultimate route and bring her back as Gwenage ???
Anwar
06-09-2008, 10:27 AM
I hope not.
Plus Ultimate Gwen really isn't anything like this Gwen. She's some kind of She-Punk there isn't she?
Don Yoyo
06-09-2008, 10:36 AM
Plus Ultimate Gwen really isn't anything like this Gwen. She's some kind of She-Punk there isn't she?
This wouldn't stop her from being a Gwen/Carnage (the one from USM isn't really aware of herself when under the Carnage form) :cwink: Besides, I think I already told this, I could somehow see Gwen falling in a coma or something "because" of Spider-Man, and then Eddie would try anything to save her, even inject her with some of his symbiote.
Anwar
06-09-2008, 10:47 AM
I dunno, I don't think the symbiote would let him do that. It feeds on negativity and is weakened by positivity (it's a Sailor Moon villain!), so I don't think it would let Brock try to save Gwen.
Don Yoyo
06-09-2008, 10:55 AM
Well, I could like to see Brock resist the will of the Symbiote for some really precise things, a way to show that he still got some humanity in him, trying to save the last friend he had before becoming the symbiote.
hpwiz89
06-09-2008, 01:27 PM
Well after the talk in Intervention betweeen Gwen and MJ its safe to say that problably Peter and Gwen will date in Season 2, which should be interesting.:cwink:
Anwar
06-09-2008, 01:29 PM
I'm guessing that they'll end "Nature vs Nurture" on a happy note after how down the rest of the arc was with maybe Gwen and Peter starting to get together.
Webhead2006
06-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Yea i to can see mj helping gwen get with peter and they will date for a bit or for all of season 2.
Spider-ManHero12
06-09-2008, 07:19 PM
Yea i to can see mj helping gwen get with peter and they will date for a bit or for all of season 2. Yeah, and then, maybe in the 3rd or 4th season, Peter will date MJ or something. However, if Gwen is to die in a direct to DVD, then Peter and MJ will most likely end up togeather in oneo f the direct to DVD's.
Webhead2006
06-09-2008, 07:37 PM
Yea there is so many ways relationships can go with the show. I do think they will have gwen and peter together during season 2 for awhile then something happens and they break it off and just be friends and then peter starts dating liz and or mj. Or maybe he just stays friends with mj and liz if/when he breaks up with gwen. Then yea it would be better to have gwen die in a dvd film so they can get away with more and make it a better story and all that, then have mj comfort peter and they grow closer to each other.
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