Grayskull: Masters of the Universe

[TheVileOne]

Honestly, not surprised. This project has stalled in development hell for years. Studios don't want to take as many high budgeted risks right now.

Look at GI JOE. That movie cost over $175 million and is not having anywhere near the success fo Bayformers. Now look at MOTU. It hasn't really been a hot or popular brand since the 1980's. The revamps in the 90's and 00's didn't really pan out.

[Hunter Rider]

Columbia Pictures To Become The Masters of the Universe? (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/09/23/columbia-pictures-to-become-the-masters-of-the-universe/)

[Octoberist]

we'll see if it's worth it.

Man, that Joel Silver likes to sit on projects (at WB) so I'm glad that he lost He-Man and Wonder Woman.

[[A]]

He-Man may have found a new home.

Just weeks after “Masters of the Universe” parted ways with Warner Bros., the Mattel toy property is in negotiations to be preemptively picked up by Columbia with Escape Artists attached to produce.

After months of deal-wrangling, Warners picked up “Universe” in 2007, hiring several writers and earlier this year set John Stevenson to direct. The two companies eventually began seeing two opposing visions for the movie and when the option came up, both sides decided to let it lapse.

Stevenson is no longer attached and the project would be built from the ground up.

The 1980s show, named “He-Man and the Masters of the Universe,” followed a blond warrior named Prince Adam who, when uttering the magic words, "By the power of Grayskull -- I have the power," turned into the heroic He-Man. He and his allies -- Battle Cat, Man-at-Arms and Orko -- defended their planet Eternia from the evil forces of Skeletor, who tried week after week to conquer the fortress Castle Grayskull, which imbued He-Man with his powers.

Run by partners Todd Black, Jason Blumenthal and Steve Tisch, Escape Artists’ credits include “The Taking of Pelham 123,” “Knowing” and “The Pursuit of Happyness.”

On Wednesday, Universal picked up another Mattel property, bringing Barbie to the big screen. Go to THR.com to vote for the actress that would make the best live-action Barbie.Yay! He-Man AND Barbie!

[Lobo]

He-Man I'm very much looking forward to :up:

[terry78]

Columbia will give us Orko. They know not to lose him.

[terry78]

Columbia will give us Orko. They know not to lose him.

[SamuraiSon6]

this is great news. i still enjoy the first and i have the soundtrack, which is still great as well

[Panthro]

we'll see if it's worth it.

Man, that Joel Silver likes to sit on projects (at WB) so I'm glad that he lost He-Man and Wonder Woman.
Really? He lost Wonder Woman?

[rogue trooper]

With John Stevenson(Kung-Fu Panda) gone, my choices for a director are:

-Christophe Gans(Brotherhood of The Wolf)

-James McTiegue(Ninja Assasin, V For Vendetta)

-Gore Verbinski(Pirates of The Caribbean)

-Kevin Munroe(TMNT, Dead of Night)

-Michael J. Bassett(Solomon Kane)

[Thundarr]

I just hope we don't have to wait too long for this now that Columbia has it.

[Thundarr]

I like Tyler Mane, but I don't see him as He-Man. For one, he's 43. If/when this movie finally starts filming, and if they make sequals, he'll be pushing 50. Plus, I read he's 6'10". I don't know if that's his real hight or his wrestling hight, but that's too tall for He-Man IMO. Finally, he's big, but not bodybuilder big. Looking at some pics of him, he's not really cut either. I picture with someone who has a hight/muscle proportion as Arnold or Lou Ferrigno.


But he would have time to bulk himself up. Give him six months to a year of dieting and working with a trainer like Lou Ferrigno, he'll totally be He-Man material. I mean, did you see how Toby MacGuire bulked up for Spiderman? He's not normally that buff, but he was freakin ripped in that movie. Look at Will Smith too. Most of his movie career he was in pretty good shape (Bad Boys, ID4, etc) but he had to get really buff and bulk up for his role in Ali. And he's maintained it for his role in I Am Legend. So who says Tyler Main can't do the same.

[Thundarr]

Mane was in WCW, but was pretty much enhancement talent.

That's probably why I don't recognise him from wrestling.

[Octoberist]

isn't Tyler balding too? I know they can use wigs but no, a dude like that as He-Man? Pttf.

[Jolly Rolly]

I'd be curious to see how they can do another live action He-Man film, the old 1987 movie was ok for what it was but seeing how crappy G.I.Joe ROC was I fear the worst for He-Man.

[rogue trooper]

isn't Tyler balding too? I know they can use wigs but no, a dude like that as He-Man? Pttf.

I agree. He's big and strong, but he doesn't look heroic-like. We need someone with a Marc Singer(Beastmaster) or Kevin Sorbo(Hercules) quality.

[Jolly Rolly]

What we need is someone who can act first and then have them go on a workout regimen to bulk up not the other way around.

If you get some muscle bound meathead who can't act then you might as well make it a parody.

[Paroxysm]

I always though Jason Lewis would make a great He-Man. He's got the look as far as face and as far as build.

This movie could be epic or it could bomb. I'd love to see what they do with Skeletor's goons (Beast Man, Trap-Jaw, Moss Man).

[Pink Ranger]

I always though Jason Lewis would make a great He-Man. He's got the look as far as face and as far as build.

This movie could be epic or it could bomb. I'd love to see what they do with Skeletor's goons (Beast Man, Trap-Jaw, Moss Man).

Hey, hey, Moss Man was a good guy. Who talked like Johnny Cash for some reason ...

Like your Jason Lewis suggestion though. Any chance to see him in nothing but a leather shame patch for 2 hours is worth 10$ in my book.

[rogue trooper]

I would like this film to be done less as a "human cartoon" like G.I. Joe, but more as a solid genre film like The Fifth Element, and the Hellboy films. It does not have to be uber-serious-fantasy like Lord of The Rings or The Dark Knight either, mind you.

Let's keep an eye on the upcoming Clash of The Titans and the in-production Thor, and John Carter of Mars. A combination of these three concepts could be the adequate way of doing a good He-Man movie.

[Jordacar]

Jason Lewis has a great superhero-y look, but the second I heard his voice I disqualified him from everything.

[Octoberist]

I would like this film to be done less as a "human cartoon" like G.I. Joe, but more as a solid genre film like The Fifth Element, and the Hellboy films. It does not have to be uber-serious-fantasy like Lord of The Rings or The Dark Knight either, mind you.

Let's keep an eye on the upcoming Clash of The Titans and the in-production Thor, and John Carter of Mars. A combination of these three concepts could be the adequate way of doing a good He-Man movie.

John Carter of Mars would be the closest thing to He-Man yet; sci-fi mixed with fantasy.

[Pink Ranger]

John Carter of Mars would be the closest thing to He-Man yet; sci-fi mixed with fantasy.

Also Dune.

[rogue trooper]

John Carter of Mars would be the closest thing to He-Man yet; sci-fi mixed with fantasy.

Indeed. Although, with Thor you also have the concept of the hero being the most powerful being of all(Thor=He-Man), leads a double life(Don Blake=Prince Adam), is the son of a very high authority who expects much from him(Odin=King Randor), and is constantly at odds with Loki who plots to rule Asgard(Skeletor trying to take over Eternia).

With Clash of The Titans I think we're probably going to see more variation of fantastical characters and creatures than in Thor and John Carter. A He-Man film needs to have this as well. How the film will handle characters like Calibos, The Kraken, and Medusa(and there might be more mythological creatures if they stuck to some stuff of the earlier script, like Egyptian-like Jackals) could give an idea on how such villains like Mer-Man, Beast-Man, and ofcourse, Skeletor could be done. Also, as we know Perseus is going to have his pack of soldiers accompanying him to his quest, this is something to take notice as He-Man will be also, no doubt, aided by his fellow warriors(Man-At-Arms, Stratos, Teela, Ram Man, etc...).

[Octoberist]

that's the thing about He-Man; it's not the most original idea.

If you take Conan, Marvel's Thor and Thundarr (Which came out first) and mix them all in, you get He-Man.

[rogue trooper]

...and let's not forget to mention Blackstar. Filmation did this one before He-Man. Blackstar did not fare well with ratings, however, and you could say He-Man ended up being a more commercially amped version of Blackstar(and maybe Thundarr too, in a way). The film Beastmaster also had some influence on He-Man, for sure.

[Octoberist]

yeah, i was talking to a bunch of friends at a party about He-Man and how we agree that we kinda like but don't. And why we think like that.

I brought up how He-Man is kinda of a knockoff of other franchises at the time, and everyone agreed.

[Doctor Jones]

So I heard that they should cast differnet actors for Adam and He-Man. Who would be down with this? I mean it makes sense.

[rogue trooper]

I've often wondered how much cooler the old He-Man cartoons would have been if they had been done more like Thundarr, by having a bit more serious tone to them. That would have been great.

[Authorize]

I would be really interested if Alfonso Cuarón decided to take a stab at this. He can make films visually awesome. He's my pick for this.

[SamuraiSon6]

has Alfonso been rumored, or is that just your suggestion?

[[A]]

So I heard that they should cast differnet actors for Adam and He-Man. Who would be down with this? I mean it makes sense.Yes and no. It's not like Thor and Blake. This is the same guy: a skinny bastard, a muscular bloke. In a perfect world, they'd shoot something like this like Zemeckis did with Cast Away--I don't mean the same process but a pause in the middle, so the guy gets bigger or smaller.. They could ask Christian Bale for some advice.

[terry78]

I still say if they can pull it off a la Benjamin Button, mocap He-Man. He'll only transform into He-Man like three or four times over the course of the movie, and probably be like Spider-Man and other hero flicks where he's only onscreen for a total of like 10-20 minutes.

[[A]]

..or something like CGI Arnold, perhaps?

[SamuraiSon6]

I still say if they can pull it off a la Benjamin Button, mocap He-Man. He'll only transform into He-Man like three or four times over the course of the movie, and probably be like Spider-Man and other hero flicks where he's only onscreen for a total of like 10-20 minutes.


i would prefer the opposite personally, get a he-man and benj. button him up for the prince adam parts

[Panthro]

So I heard that they should cast differnet actors for Adam and He-Man. Who would be down with this? I mean it makes sense.
It has to be two different actors, a younger, shorter, thinner one as Adam and an older, taller, more muscular one as He-Man. This isn't Superman/Clark Kent where the guy changes clothes & wears glasses, or any of the other various superhero characters who put on a mask with their costumes and that's that. The Adam/He-Man change is a complete physical transformation, just like Billy Batson/Captain Marvel. There should be some facial resemblance between the two, but it has to be two different actors.

[Jordacar]

It has to be two different actors, a younger, shorter, thinner one as Adam and an older, taller, more muscular one as He-Man. This isn't Superman/Clark Kent where the guy changes clothes & wears glasses, or any of the other various superhero characters who put on a mask with their costumes and that's that. The Adam/He-Man change is a complete physical transformation, just like Billy Batson/Captain Marvel. There should be some facial resemblance between the two, but it has to be two different actors.qft all the way

[terry78]

My issue with two separate actors is that it may be too noticeable. If they're going for a more realistic take, He-Man and Adam are the same person, so some of his facial features and what not should still be visible, like Bana and Hulk.

[Thundarr]

I always though Jason Lewis would make a great He-Man. He's got the look as far as face and as far as build.



Post a picture please. The name sounds familiar but I can't quite picture what he looks like.

[ChickenScratch]

Post a picture please. The name sounds familiar but I can't quite picture what he looks like.

www.google.com

[Timstuff]

I always thought it was funny how in the cartoon, even when he's not endowed with fabulous powers Prince Adam is still ripped. I guess for the movie, it really comes down to two options: go the Clark Kent route (Prince Adam is just a different set of clothes), or go the Steve Rogers route (whimpy looking guy turns jacked).

[Thundarr]

I always thought it was funny how in the cartoon, even when he's not endowed with fabulous powers Prince Adam is still ripped. I guess for the movie, it really comes down to two options: go the Clark Kent route (Prince Adam is just a different set of clothes), or go the Steve Rogers route (whimpy looking guy turns jacked).

That's what I liked about the 2000 reboot. They made Prince Adam much smaller and weaker than He-Man. He was very athletic, just not He-Man huge. 1980s He-Man, She-Ra, and Sailor Moon, the characters all look exactly like their superhero personas just in different clothes, yet nobody can figure out that they're one in the same. At least Clark Kent wore glasses with thick black frames in addition to a suit and tie. He also often wore a hat which also helps disguise his face.

[Timstuff]

Speaking of the whole glasses thing, I actually met up with a friend recently who I hadn't seen in years, and I didn't recognize him at first because he was wearing thick framed glasses and his hair was different from the last time I saw him... Maybe Clark's glasses aren't as ridiculous as some people think. :p

[Pink Ranger]

So it's settled then. Prince Adam will wear a blue suit, fedora and glasses. Problem solved.

I'm sure the He-Man "purists" will have no issue with that whatsoever.

[The Guard]

I would much prefer two different actors, or some kind of motion capture and one actor playing both roles. It makes no sense if He-Man isn't some kind of transformation from Prince Adam. Here's hoping the blue evil He-Man is in the film. :).

[Joker'sHenchman]

Anyone have the script?

[The Guard]

You don't want it. Trust me.

[cronosred]

It has to be two different actors, a younger, shorter, thinner one as Adam and an older, taller, more muscular one as He-Man. This isn't Superman/Clark Kent where the guy changes clothes & wears glasses, or any of the other various superhero characters who put on a mask with their costumes and that's that. The Adam/He-Man change is a complete physical transformation, just like Billy Batson/Captain Marvel. There should be some facial resemblance between the two, but it has to be two different actors.

I agree.

[Joker'sHenchman]

You don't want it. Trust me.

I am a pretty big Masters fan, and I read the treatment which sounded phenomenal! Do you have the script? I do very much want it.

[TheVileOne]

The script sucks. I wrote a pretty descriptive summary at He-man.org.

I'm glad they were starting from scratch. Marks and WB didn't know what the hell they were doing.

[Project862006]

justin marks is easily the worst screenwriter going today who happens to get all these big projects

[[A]]

Just for fun: http://www.totalfilm.com/features/7-stupidest-he-man-characters :funny:

[SamuraiSon6]

haha, oh man, that list was hilarious

[Thundarr]

;17528280']Just for fun: http://www.totalfilm.com/features/7-stupidest-he-man-characters :funny:

I think I stopped playing with action figures by the time those characters came out. Thank God.

[TheVileOne]

Badmouthing King Hiss is a federal crime. To hell with that article.

[FVD]

i would prefer the opposite personally, get a he-man and benj. button him up for the prince adam parts

That could also be an idea for young an' skinny Steve Rogers before becoming Captain America.

[Lord Blackbolt]

Didn't they do that with the first spiderman movie too.

[TheVileOne]

All they did was use a body double and composite Maguire's head on. It didn't look that great either.

[dark_b]

it looked good. noone complained.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

it looked good. noone complained.Exactly.

[Jordacar]

it looked good. noone complained.Yeah, and that was over seven years ago. Imagine what they could do now.

[dark_b]

it looked good for the shot in 2002. but it makes no sense to do this for the whole movie. there are better tricks .

[rogue trooper]

I don't know if this poster has been posted before:


http://theextremist.co.uk/MVC/MOTU-Movie-posterfinalvisual.jpg




...also, the background score for this video would be awesome for the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHYl9a3ncQM

[jdogg willie]

That is a freakin' AWESOME poster!! 2010 is WAY to early. No finished script, no casting, no location scouting (I throw New Zealand out there).

[Panthro]

I don't know if this poster has been posted before:


http://theextremist.co.uk/MVC/MOTU-Movie-posterfinalvisual.jpg




...also, the background score for this video would be awesome for the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHYl9a3ncQM
That is a damn good poster. I wonder if the studio could turn out one half as awesome. Probably not.

[Gamma Goliath]

wow that poster is good. only thing id change is id make the symbol on his chest visible.

[bell110]

It's a cool poster, but you can tell it's amateur.

[Heretic]

The main sign that it's an amateur poster is that it depicts He-Man as a warrior, and not as the fun-loving Adam, prince of Eternia...plus Orko, or some other suitabe draw for children is nowhere to be found.

[Mace Dolex]

If they can make it sort of like The Beastmaster but on a higher budget then it could work.

Then again it all might flop and turn into Beastmaster 2:Through The Portal Of Time.

[TruerToTheCore]

The main sign that it's an amateur poster is that it depicts He-Man as a warrior, and not as the fun-loving Adam, prince of Eternia...plus Orko, or some other suitabe draw for children is nowhere to be found.

He-Man is serious business! God beware it would be a kid's movie!

[BloodyWolverine]

I think people assume if they put Orko in and have Cringer talk now and then it would be too kid friendly but i think if they went with The First Pirates Of The Caribbean movie mix with comedy and scary it will do fine. Even Rings and Star Wars used this fine mix.

[Panthro]

The main sign that it's an amateur poster is that it depicts He-Man as a warrior, and not as the fun-loving Adam, prince of Eternia...plus Orko, or some other suitabe draw for children is nowhere to be found.
Probably because the artist figured what the execs figured - that the poster would look cooler to the average movie goer if it played up the warrior angle and ignored the fun loving prince aspect.

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

I like the poster, but I think He-Man should have short hair like he did in the 2k2 toon. Long hair barbarians is to 80's in my opinion. Battle Cat looks awesome.

[Brian Braddock]

That posters friggin sweet.

[Batspider77]

That is a freakin' AWESOME poster!! 2010 is WAY to early. No finished script, no casting, no location scouting (I throw New Zealand out there).


I think they will make Eternia complete CGI.

[the_ultimate_evil]

I don't know if this poster has been posted before:


http://theextremist.co.uk/MVC/MOTU-Movie-posterfinalvisual.jpg




...also, the background score for this video would be awesome for the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHYl9a3ncQM

thats eamon's poster, he's a huge he-man fan and did the art for the uk dvd releases

[The Guard]

I can't believe people are complaining about He-Man's warrior aspect appearing on a poster.

[The Guard]

I can't believe people are complaining about He-Man's warrior aspect appearing on a poster.

[Heretic]

Well...maybe some people prefer the fruit-flavored Prince Adam...

[bell110]

I knew I've seen that before.

[jdogg willie]

They shot the 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy in New Zealand, and look how well that worked

[the_ultimate_evil]

I can't believe people are complaining about He-Man's warrior aspect appearing on a poster.

i want a warrior aspect but i don't want the entire think to be bleak, but again i don't want it to be filmation colourful

a balance is extremely difficult

[Nightmare]

Cool poster

[The Guard]

I get that there needs to be a balance between the warrior aspects and the citizen/royalty aspects...in the actual movie...

But it's a poster.

It's like whining if Bruce Wayne isn't on a Batman poster.

[Figs]

I get that there needs to be a balance between the warrior aspects and the citizen/royalty aspects...

But it's a damn poster.

It's like whining if Bruce Wayne isn't on a Batman poster.

Good point, plus you also have to take into account the general audience when it comes to marketing. Most of the GA who aren't old school fans of the toys and cartoon are going to watch this as an action fest type of film.

[Timstuff]

I think that Prince Adam training to become He-Man could have worked, but I think that it would have been a disservice to the He-Man mythos, even if it's a change I could live with. If they want to do this movie right IMO they should go the route of the recent cartoon and have Adam be a 16 year old boy, and have He-Man played by a different actor in who's about 25-33 years old (and he needs to be JACKED). IMO they need an Arnie-type muscle man to play He-Man, because if they're going to go with some fair looking 22 year old then they might as well not even bother with the transformation concept and just use one actor for both Adam and He-Man.

[DawnWarrior]

I think that Prince Adam training to become He-Man could have worked, but I think that it would have been a disservice to the He-Man mythos, even if it's a change I could live with. If they want to do this movie right IMO they should go the route of the recent cartoon and have Adam be a 16 year old boy, and have He-Man played by a different actor in who's about 25-33 years old (and he needs to be JACKED). IMO they need an Arnie-type muscle man to play He-Man, because if they're going to go with some fair looking 22 year old then they might as well not even bother with the transformation concept and just use one actor for both Adam and He-Man.
Agreed 100%; one actor for Adam and another for He-Man is the way to go. Some people may be able to live with one guy in a dual role, but I may not bother with the movie if they go that route. Adam and He-Man's physical resemblence on the original cartoon was, as far as I'm concerned, a way to cut animation costs. Making them look different, as MYP did, solves a logistical problem with his secret identity: why can't anybody figure it out if Adam and He-Man look exactly alike? Answer: They don't; they were just DRAWN similarly. I'd rather see a plucky, reasonably athletic teenage Prince Adam contrasting with an impossibly ripped adult He-Man.

[terry78]

Then we have Shazam. I still want it to differentiate from it being such a huge transition looks-wise and have him favor Prince Adam in a subtle manner, a la the Benjamin Button route.

[Timstuff]

IMO "subtle" is not the way to go when it comes to He-Man. If people laughed at no-one being able to tell that Clark Kent is Superman just because he wears glasses, imagine the chortling that'll go on when if no-one can tell that Adam is He-Man just because he wears pants.

[BlackLantern]

he doesn't even change his hairstyle

[Octoberist]

i think adam gets a slight tan when he becomes He-Man.

[the_ultimate_evil]

thats was where the myp series got it perfect, adam was 16 he-man was mid to late twentys.

on the size, i just think get a guy who can act, muscles can be built and enhanced but acting can't.

[SamuraiSon6]

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165133
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146597

these are some concepts that are pretty neat by a designer "OBZ" over on the ZBrush forums, this should respark a little conversation in this forum

[dark_b]

now tha i think about it i noticed that a skull wouldnt have expressions. only the mouth would open and close.

[SamuraiSon6]

yea true. i have always like the makeup used for Frank Langella in the MoTU movie. it always had the feel of minimal skin/cartalidge burned or fused down to the bone. so it looked like bone, i believed it could have emotion.

[Mister H.]

If I'm penning the script, I have Adam's transformation a permanent one. I know thats not faithful to the TV series, but the Superman/Clark Kent problem looms, and I think having one iconic scene with Adam transforming, sword pointed at the heavens, in front of Grayskull is the best option.

As far as Skeletor's appearance goes, I think the skull symbolism is important, but the black magic is what makes the character so appealing. I would have no problem with Keldor being a black wizard who dons a skull mask to conceal his identity.

[BlackLantern]

so I got the 1987 film in my netflix this past weekend...had directors commentary...very informative stuff

[Nivek]

Personally, I think there are many more properties that need a live action adoption long before He-Man. I just don't think it could ever be taken seriously.

[BlackLantern]

Personally, I think there are many more properties that need a live action adoption long before He-Man.

but those other properties are probably not as cheap to get the license

[BlackLantern]

i want a warrior aspect but i don't want the entire think to be bleak, but again i don't want it to be filmation colourful

a balance is extremely difficult

No colors:cmad: it must be dark, gritty....I should be depressed and angry watching this film...the only color should be RED, BLOOD RED!!!:cmad::cmad:

:hehe:

[Jordacar]

Then we have Shazam. I still want it to differentiate from it being such a huge transition looks-wise and have him favor Prince Adam in a subtle manner, a la the Benjamin Button route.So people won't see it because it's too similar to Shazam?

[rogue trooper]

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165133
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146597

these are some concepts that are pretty neat by a designer "OBZ" over on the ZBrush forums, this should respark a little conversation in this forum

These look amazing!! They're right on track on what a Skeletor should "convincingly" look on cellulloid.:up:

[Nightmare]

Wow, thats a badass skeletor design.

[bell110]

i want a warrior aspect but i don't want the entire think to be bleak, but again i don't want it to be filmation colourful

a balance is extremely difficult

I think the obvious balance would be the bad guys and snake mountain being bleak and the good guys and the royal palace being more colorful.

Personally, I think there are many more properties that need a live action adoption long before He-Man. I just don't think it could ever be taken seriously.

Such as?

If you're talking straight 80's toon, He-Man is probably in the top 4 most liked/memorable toons of the 80's, only behind Transformers, G.I. Joe, and TMNT, and they all have live action adoption. I think He-Man could be taken seriously if done properly. Unfortunately, the hard part would be to get a studio to take it seriously and not just a quick cash cow to cash in on this latest 80's craze and appeal to the kiddies/MTV crowd.

Then we have Shazam. I still want it to differentiate from it being such a huge transition looks-wise and have him favor Prince Adam in a subtle manner, a la the Benjamin Button route.

I'm not such what you mean by this. I've never seen Benjamin Button. Could you explain further?

So people won't see it because it's too similar to Shazam?

Personally, I think He-Man would be more well known to the general audience than Shazam.

[dark_knight08]

:unishr:That Skeletor design is f***kin amazing.

[Lots o lafs]

Blue veins would be cool, and smoke(almost like steam rising) around the face, I always like eyes.
It amazing tho.

[Astro13Zombie]

I think the obvious balance would be the bad guys and snake mountain being bleak and the good guys and the royal palace being more colorful.

Agreed.

Example of both working in a movie..


Rivendell=Eternia
http://i49.tinypic.com/rwt0mr.jpg

Mordor=Snake mountain
http://i46.tinypic.com/2626wlg.png

[Brian Braddock]

That Skeletor design is fantastic. If I had one criticism though, while I get that the size of the skull is probably anatomically correct, much like the skull in Ghost Rider I feel the skull is looks very small in proportion to the rest of the body.

It's only a small criticism though [no pun intended].

[Superfreak]

That Skeletor design is fantastic. If I had one criticism though, while I get that the size of the skull is probably anatomically correct, much like the skull in Ghost Rider I feel the skull is looks very small in proportion to the rest of the body.

It's only a small criticism though [no pun intended].

I'm not down with the design (although it is pretty). It'll be CG, when the makeup from the Lundgren Motu for skeletor still holds it's weight against what they are trying to do today.


as for story: go with a rip off of "Sword and the Sorcerer".

[BlackLantern]

I'm not down with the design (although it is pretty). It'll be CG, when the makeup from the Lundgren Motu for skeletor still holds it's weight against what they are trying to do today.

I thought they did a great job with Skeletor for the 1987 film, I really don't think Skeletor should be almost bare chested...the costume he had in the film seemed more fitting for a villain of his caliber

[Superfreak]

I thought they did a great job with Skeletor for the 1987 film, I really don't think Skeletor should be almost bare chested...the costume he had in the film seemed more fitting for a villain of his caliber

agreed: visually, and characterization of Skeletor in the 87 film was perfect. And it'll look better than the computer effects they use for this. They should honestly just get Langella back to have a second shot at the role.


as for Adam/He-Man, my friend from junior school, Steve, is an upcoming actor, whose got his foot in the door, but needs a big role, and is currently travelling around on the hunt for that. I always thought that he could work well as Adam/He-Man: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1854386/. He's trying out for Conan right now (although he has to know what kind of risk that is, doing a remake of conan is not a good idea, and has a high probability of being an epic fail), and would fit in here quite well.

and the story, an adaptation of Sword and the Sorcerer (summary of the opening 5 minutes):

"The film opens as King Cromwell (Lynch) and his men land ashore of Tomb Island in search of Xusia (Moll), a long-dead sorcerer who may be the key to overthrowing King Richard, a rival king whose land of Ehdan is the richest in the world. Using one of Xusia's worshipers to rouse the lich from his slumber, Cromwell convinces Xusia to join him in conquering Ehdan. With the sorcerer's black magic at his disposal, the evil king easily lays waste to Richard's formidable armies.

With his victory all but secured, Cromwell becomes eager to be rid of Xusia. Fearing that the sorcerer could very well turn against him, he attempts to kill the lich by stabbing him in the chest and chasing him off a cliff.

As Cromwell advances upon Ehdan, King Richard senses that all hope is lost. With only one army left to defend the city, he prepares to lead the charge against his rival in a last ditch effort to save Ehdan. Before leaving, however, he orders his family to evacuate to the river, and entrusts his youngest son Talon with his magnificent triple-bladed sword. "If I die," he tells the boy, "it will fall upon you...to avenge me."

"I understand." Talon replies.

With that, a decisive battle is waged for the fate of Ehdan. When King Richard fails to return home afterwards, Talon goes to find him. While searching the corpse-littered battlefield, he comes across Mogullen (Marin), his father's closest adviser. Alive but gravely wounded, the old soldier confirms that the battle is lost. At that very moment, Talon spies his father in the distance, just seconds before his execution.

Enraged, Talon starts off to claim his revenge, but Mogullen holds him fast. Knowing that Cromwell will be heading to the river in search of the queen, he implores the boy to save the rest of his family. Talon desperately races to the river on horseback, but once again, he is too late. Horrified, he watches as his mother is put to death at Cromwell's hands.

With Cromwell's men now in pursuit of him, Talon has no choice but to flee. After narrowly surviving an ambush, the boy manages to evade capture and disappear from the kingdom, never to be seen again.

Eleven years after the fall of Ehdan, Prince Talon (Horsley), now a seasoned warrior, returns to his homeland. With a small group of mercenaries under his command, he has only one goal in mind: to fulfill the promise he made long ago. Meanwhile, an underground rebellion has begun in Ehdan, aiming to overthrow Cromwell and appoint a rightful ruler to the throne. And in a secret cavern far beneath the Earth's surface, the sinister Xusia—still very much alive—has his own plans for the kingdom." from IMDB

[BlackLantern]

one of the best villain monologues I've ever heard

[Superfreak]

indeed, every line of dialogue Langella delivered in the movie was pure Evil gold... it's a shame about the rest of the movie.

[BlackLantern]

you weren't dazzled by a young Courtney Cox??

[Superfreak]

you weren't dazzled by a young Courtney Cox??

who wasn't? or the guy from voyager?

[BlackLantern]

Tom Paris and that sweet denim outfit he was rocking

[chamber-music]

Gwildor and his fried chicken lovin ways

[Superfreak]

Tom Paris and that sweet denim outfit he was rocking

my favorite earth character was definately principal Strickland as the cop: SLACKERS!!!!!

[BlackLantern]

Gwildor and his fried chicken lovin ways

who doesn't love fried chicken and ribs??

[Superfreak]

who doesn't love fried chicken and ribs??

why do they put their food on these weird little sticks?

[BlackLantern]

I was surprised that Teela seemed to be a vagetarian

[Superfreak]

I was surprised that Teela seemed to be a vagetarian

is that a typo, or a really funny joke? I'm gonna use that: I'm a VAGetarian

[BlackLantern]

it only works when directed towards women....so you can't use it

[Superfreak]

as craptacular as the 80s movie was, I have a lot of fond memories from it.

[BlackLantern]

I watched it on DVD for the first time this weekend with directors commentary (Gary Goddard)....intersting stuff

[baerrtt]

I think the obvious balance would be the bad guys and snake mountain being bleak and the good guys and the royal palace being more colorful.



Such as?

If you're talking straight 80's toon, He-Man is probably in the top 4 most liked/memorable toons of the 80's, only behind Transformers, G.I. Joe, and TMNT, and they all have live action adoption. I think He-Man could be taken seriously if done properly. Unfortunately, the hard part would be to get a studio to take it seriously and not just a quick cash cow to cash in on this latest 80's craze and appeal to the kiddies/MTV crowd.



I'm not such what you mean by this. I've never seen Benjamin Button. Could you explain further?



Personally, I think He-Man would be more well known to the general audience than Shazam.

Almost anything can be taken seriously. Doesn't mean EVERYTHING should be and quite frankly a He-Man movie can't be pitched with a LOTR style tone. I'm all for serious moments if it ever comes to pass but the general nostalgic memory of it now is that it was completely hokey.

[BlackLantern]

exactly...why SHOULD it be taken seriously?

[rogue trooper]

They should honestly just get Langella back to have a second shot at the role.


Langella did a very good job, no doubt. But there are other great younger actors out there who can do just a good a job or better; namely Jeremy Northam(The Tudors, The Net), Hugo Weaving or Langela's "Nixon/Frost" co-star Michael Sheen.

[SonofKrypton009]

^^ I Loved the original Heman, Langella rocked.. That movie suffered from weak budget and an uinventive director. I love your ideas for Skeletor in Micheal Sheen Superfreak

:supes:

[Jordacar]

^^ I Loved the original Heman, Langella rocked.. That movie suffered from weak budget and an uinventive director.I blame it on a weak budget and a spineless production company (same guys made Superman IV after all). Goddard did the best with what he had.

[Nightmare]

Eh, it wasnt that bad. As a Kid I actually liked it a lot.

[BlackLantern]

^^ I Loved the original Heman, Langella rocked.. That movie suffered from weak budget and an uinventive director. I love your ideas for Skeletor in Micheal Sheen Superfreak

:supes:

the man could only do so much with what Cannon gave him...the film had a budget of 17 million dollars, back when the average movie Cannon made cost between 6 and 8 million...Cannon actually told him that the movie was going to be set on Earth and he had to work within that box

[terry78]

The 2002 series basically captured the drama and darkness of the concept and merged with some of the humor of the original series as well as some tongue in cheek throwbacks to it. That is how the movie should be...more or less like the new Star Trek.

[SonofKrypton009]

Yep agree with you there Terry and also good pts black lantern. :)
I hope they go with a relative unknown talent for Heman though.

[Superfreak]

the man could only do so much with what Cannon gave him...the film had a budget of 17 million dollars, back when the average movie Cannon made cost between 6 and 8 million...Cannon actually told him that the movie was going to be set on Earth and he had to work within that box

don't forget that the script was also adapted to be HeMan... as the film was initially intended to a New Gods film. There were some issues there

[bell110]

agreed: visually, and characterization of Skeletor in the 87 film was perfect. And it'll look better than the computer effects they use for this. They should honestly just get Langella back to have a second shot at the role.


as for Adam/He-Man, my friend from junior school, Steve, is an upcoming actor, whose got his foot in the door, but needs a big role, and is currently travelling around on the hunt for that. I always thought that he could work well as Adam/He-Man: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1854386/. He's trying out for Conan right now (although he has to know what kind of risk that is, doing a remake of conan is not a good idea, and has a high probability of being an epic fail), and would fit in here quite well.


Your friend has the facial look, imo, but is he buff? I'm of the mind that He-Man needs to have a bodybuilder like physique.

As for '87 Skeletor, I never liked how his face didn't look like a skull. And Langella is a good actor, but if they're doing a new movie, just get new actors.

Almost anything can be taken seriously. Doesn't mean EVERYTHING should be and quite frankly a He-Man movie can't be pitched with a LOTR style tone. I'm all for serious moments if it ever comes to pass but the general nostalgic memory of it now is that it was completely hokey.

Are you saying He-Man shouldn't be taken seriously? I'm not looking for LOTR style tone. I just don't want a camp-fest. I don't want Batman & Robin, or Revenge of the Fallen for that matter.

Producers: "Can we make Orko hip and urban? Have him talk like an average American teen, you know, like the Twins in RotF. Oh, and we need 'balls' jokes."

The 2002 series basically captured the drama and darkness of the concept and merged with some of the humor of the original series as well as some tongue in cheek throwbacks to it. That is how the movie should be...more or less like the new Star Trek.

Exactly. I'd say up the seriously just a notch though. After all, as much as I loved the 2002 series, it was still aiming for a child audience. It didn't really take. So really, the only people I think would be interested in this movie would be late 20's and early 30's.

[terry78]

Your friend has the facial look, imo, but is he buff? I'm of the mind that He-Man needs to have a bodybuilder like physique.

As for '87 Skeletor, I never liked how his face didn't look like a skull. And Langella is a good actor, but if they're doing a new movie, just get new actors.



Are you saying He-Man shouldn't be taken seriously? I'm not looking for LOTR style tone. I just don't want a camp-fest. I don't want Batman & Robin, or Revenge of the Fallen for that matter.

Producers: "Can we make Orko hip and urban? Have him talk like an average American teen, you know, like the Twins in RotF. Oh, and we need 'balls' jokes."



Exactly. I'd say up the seriously just a notch though. After all, as much as I loved the 2002 series, it was still aiming for a child audience. It didn't really take. So really, the only people I think would be interested in this movie would be late 20's and early 30's.


They're not gonna do that. About 75% of the marketing will be geared towards the kids, just as Transformers and GI Joe were.

[Panthro]

I would hate to have to listen to Orko talk like some gangsta rap caricature.

[BlackLantern]

how about just no Orko period??


sounds like a good idea to me

[bell110]

They're not gonna do that. About 75% of the marketing will be geared towards the kids, just as Transformers and GI Joe were.

Marketing, fine. I just want a good movie.

how about just no Orko period??


sounds like a good idea to me

What's wrong with Orko?

[BlackLantern]

he ****ing sucks....he was the annoying comic relief in the original cartoon and half the trouble everyone got in to was because of something Orko did...they should have just tied him to a towel rod and left him in the dungeon

[Timstuff]

As with TMNT, I think that the 2000's He-man remake series managed to nail the concept exceptionally well, and if I were in charge of the new movie I'd take a few pointers from it (like I would with TMNT). It's dark without being humorless, funny without being pandering, and nostalgic without being sentimental.

BTW, the guy who made my avatar did some pretty cool He-Man concept art, too. Take a look!

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/he-man-115761586

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/she-ra-115867096

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/he-man-teaser-style-115891770

[BlackLantern]

just a little bit of pandering?? a smidge?

[Superfreak]

Your friend has the facial look, imo, but is he buff? I'm of the mind that He-Man needs to have a bodybuilder like physique.

As for '87 Skeletor, I never liked how his face didn't look like a skull. And Langella is a good actor, but if they're doing a new movie, just get new actors.





on Skeletor, I thought the make up was great... if his head is a full out skull, then it has to be animated: and even in this day and age, computer animated material, still looks fake to me.

as for my buddy, he's about 6'3, and 225. He's huge, but not by movie standards... but he's one of those people, the kind that can pack on an extra 30 pounds of muscle if he needs too. He was in Closing the Ring, the lucky dude who got to get naked with Misha Barton.

I want him to do this movie so badly.

[Timstuff]

I personally would mind a more zombie-looking approach to Skeletor. If there's some gnarled looking flesh holding that skull of his together then they could avoid making it look like a cheesy puppet.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9189/skeletorpf.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/skeletorpf.jpg/)

Think back to The Mummy... Imotep did not have lips for most of the movie, but his mouth movements still worked because he had the withered remains of lip muscles flexing themselves whenever he spoke, and he had a tongue in his mouth that was moving when he talked. Visually, it worked, and it made him pretty darned creepy!

[Superfreak]

I personally would mind a more zombie-looking approach to Skeletor. If there's some gnarled looking flesh holding that skull of his together then they could avoid making it look like a cheesy puppet.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9189/skeletorpf.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/skeletorpf.jpg/)

Think back to The Mummy... Imotep did not have lips for most of the movie, but his mouth movements still worked because he had the withered remains of lip muscles flexing themselves whenever he spoke, and he had a tongue in his mouth that was moving when he talked. Visually, it worked, and it made him pretty darned creepy!

I agree, but I would personally want it done in makeup, rather than effects. And maybe, as in the Mummy(or exactly opposite), he deteriorates over the course of the movie, that would be cool. Infact, I'd love for Skeletor to start out as a normal human being/eternian (with some vanity thrown in there), who betrays his world... and as a price, he slowly becomes skeletor.

that's why I suggested Sword and Sorcerer as a script that could be adapted to fit the MOTU concept.

[bell110]

he ****ing sucks....he was the annoying comic relief in the original cartoon and half the trouble everyone got in to was because of something Orko did...they should have just tied him to a towel rod and left him in the dungeon

That was the 80s. He could still be cool without being corny.

As with TMNT, I think that the 2000's He-man remake series managed to nail the concept exceptionally well, and if I were in charge of the new movie I'd take a few pointers from it (like I would with TMNT). It's dark without being humorless, funny without being pandering, and nostalgic without being sentimental.

BTW, the guy who made my avatar did some pretty cool He-Man concept art, too. Take a look!

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/he-man-115761586

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/she-ra-115867096

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/he-man-teaser-style-115891770

I've seen those before. They definitely show how badass MotU can be. I wouldn't want those 100%, but it's a great example. Especially the PoP characters.

on Skeletor, I thought the make up was great... if his head is a full out skull, then it has to be animated: and even in this day and age, computer animated material, still looks fake to me.

It bugged me back then. He didn't look like a skull. That was one of many things that bugged me about the movie. And this day and age, the CGI would be easy. Look how real Transformers looks. Skeletor would only have two parts; his upper skull and lower jaw.

as for my buddy, he's about 6'3, and 225. He's huge, but not by movie standards... but he's one of those people, the kind that can pack on an extra 30 pounds of muscle if he needs too. He was in Closing the Ring, the lucky dude who got to get naked with Misha Barton.

I want him to do this movie so badly.

Hey, if he can pack on the muscle, I'd be all for him. He's one of the first suggestions I've seen that actually looks like He-Man in the face. If he can get the bodybuilder physique, more power to him.

I personally would mind a more zombie-looking approach to Skeletor. If there's some gnarled looking flesh holding that skull of his together then they could avoid making it look like a cheesy puppet.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9189/skeletorpf.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/skeletorpf.jpg/)

Think back to The Mummy... Imotep did not have lips for most of the movie, but his mouth movements still worked because he had the withered remains of lip muscles flexing themselves whenever he spoke, and he had a tongue in his mouth that was moving when he talked. Visually, it worked, and it made him pretty darned creepy!

It's definitely awesome looking. Personally, I'd just like him to have his hood, and everything beyond his "face" be black.

[Superfreak]

That was the 80s. He could still be cool without being corny.



I've seen those before. They definitely show how badass MotU can be. I wouldn't want those 100%, but it's a great example. Especially the PoP characters.



It bugged me back then. He didn't look like a skull. That was one of many things that bugged me about the movie. And this day and age, the CGI would be easy. Look how real Transformers looks. Skeletor would only have two parts; his upper skull and lower jaw.



Hey, if he can pack on the muscle, I'd be all for him. He's one of the first suggestions I've seen that actually looks like He-Man in the face. If he can get the bodybuilder physique, more power to him.



It's definitely awesome looking. Personally, I'd just like him to have his hood, and everything beyond his "face" be black.

transformers still doesn't look real to me. It's certainly closer than any other CG to looking real... but it's still not there yet. I like my downloaded cam version better than my bought copy of the DVD, because at least in the cam version, everything is equally blurry, and it all fits. When it's sharp, IMO, it still looks fake. I mean the closest approximation I can think of that describes what you want is Ghostrider... I dunno if that it could work, for me at least. But I do think that watching the character slowly lose his skin as the movie progresses, til the final confrontation, where the remaining flesh was removed. Like a terminator I guess (minus the robot of course)

[Timstuff]

The problem I'd have with prosthetic makeup, is that the only way for it to work is by adding onto an actor's flesh. If the goal is to show someone deteriorating, then the desired effect would be to make it look like flesh is being subtracted, which would make the head smaller, not bulkier. IMO CG would be the way to go for Skeletor's head-- it would probably look more convincing, and it would also open up the doors for what kinds of designs it can accomodate.

[Superfreak]

The problem I'd have with prosthetic makeup, is that the only way for it to work is by adding onto an actor's flesh. If the goal is to show someone deteriorating, then the desired effect would be to make it look like flesh is being subtracted, which would make the head smaller, not bulkier. IMO CG would be the way to go for Skeletor's head-- it would probably look more convincing, and it would also open up the doors for what kinds of designs it can accomodate.

indeed, and I guess for the technology to eventually become realistic, it has to be used. But if it's just a skull talking, ala Ghostrider, I'm not gonna be sold.

on the topic, I just caught the end of the christmas special, where Skeletor captures two children, and lets them go... but he keeps their space dog. It was hilarious cheese.

this was such an awesome climax... gotta love Langella, and I love the pause, as the on lookers see HeMan get to the sword.

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[Superfreak]

like, I'd rather have Skeletor more like two face from TDK, deteriorating face over the course of the movie

[BlackLantern]

I don't agree with that at all....give me straight up bleached skull Skeletor

[DawnWarrior]

I don't agree with that at all....give me straight up bleached skull Skeletor
Same here. I'm down with what we saw in the new cartoon, with Keldor getting his face burned with acid, then he makes a deal with the spirit of Hordak to save his life, and the trade-off is the bleached skull for a head, floating above his shoulders. Doesn't have to play exactly like that in the movie, but IMO it's more true to the character we know if the skull is completely flesh-free.

[superhero]

i was just wondering is the new he-man moive coming out this summer or next summer?

[Figs]

i was just wondering is the new he-man moive coming out this summer or next summer?

As far as I know, it's not even in production but I could be wrong. I just don't remember hearing any news about a shooting date or a finalized script.

[Timstuff]

They should do Skeletor kind of like Imhotep from The Mummy. If he's got no connective tissue holding his head together he'll look too puppet-like, and he needs some withered lip tissue to make it look like he's articulating his words, or he'll just look like Achmed the Dead Terrorist. There's a lot of creepy stuff they could do with his eyes, too.

[Octoberist]

As far as I know, it's not even in production but I could be wrong. I just don't remember hearing any news about a shooting date or a finalized script.

am I the only one who 'gets' 'superhero's gimmick?

[Gabe99]

From Heat Vision:
'Masters of the Universe' screenwriters hired (http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/04/masters-of-the-universe-screenwriters.html)

Mike Finch and Alex Litvak, the duo who wrote the upcoming "Predators" reboot, have been brought aboard to pen "Masters of the Universe" for Columbia.

The studio picked up movie rights to the 1980s Mattel toy property in the fall, when Mattel and Warner Bros. parted ways after the sides couldn't agree on a creative vision.

The addition of the rising writers is the first major move on the property and signals the project is being rebuilt from the ground up. While at Warners, "Masters" went through several writers and in latter stages had John Stevenson, who co-helmed "Kung Fu Panda," attached to direct.

Getting the go-ahead to tackle any major toy-brand film can be tricky. Depending on the property, writers and directors need to get a thumbs-up from the studio, which then has to win approval from the toy company. In the case of "Masters," Mattel has story approval.

In their pitch, the scribes attempted to balance a treatment that would convince the studio it was cinematic and keep the toy company satisfied that its characters were being portrayed appropriately.

The '80s show, "He-Man and the Masters of the Universe," centered on blond warrior Prince Adam, who, after uttering the magic words "By the power of Grayskull, I have the power," turned into the heroic He-Man. He and his allies -- Battle Cat, Man-at-Arms and Orko -- defended their planet Eternia from the evil forces of Skeletor, who week after week attempted to conquer the fortress Castle Grayskull, which imbues He-Man with his powers.

Todd Black, Jason Blumenthal and Steve Tisch of Escape Artists are producing.

The Verve-repped Finch and Litvak made a splash last year with "Medieval," which jolted the spec market when it sold to New Regency for big bucks. That script scored the duo the coveted gig of writing the Robert Rodriguez-produced "Predators," helping the long-in-development sequel go from script to screen in just more than a year.

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

I want this to be good SOOOO BAD.

[kickass]

Me too. The He-Man universe is fully of rich characters and stories. I hope pray wish and beg that they finally do his epic fantasy some live-action justice!!!

[Panthro]

Me too. The He-Man universe is fully of rich characters and stories. I hope pray wish and beg that they finally do his epic fantasy some live-action justice!!!
Damn straight!

[MoPlaYa]

Me too. The He-Man universe is fully of rich characters and stories. I hope pray wish and beg that they finally do his epic fantasy some live-action justice!!!

I Agree!!

[deathshead2]

While waiting for this movie, I really wish someone would pick up the comic rights again. Dark Horses Conan meets some sci fi comic I guess.

And Whoop 10,000! I have no life.

[kickass]

Did anyone like the 2002 He-Man cartoon? I have all 3 seasons on dvd......I love them!! A movie based on that kind of grittiness and adventure and style would be crazy!

[Doctor Jones]

I remember when that show came out. I wasn't too into it but from what I remember, if it was on, I watched it.

All I remember is that booming voice screaming, "IIIIII HAAAAAAAAVEE THEEE POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!"

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

Yeah I liked the newer series. I love this property and hope they create something that does it justice. I just wish I still had all of my figures from the 80's, good times.

[deathshead2]

I remember when that show came out. I wasn't too into it but from what I remember, if it was on, I watched it.

All I remember is that booming voice screaming, "IIIIII HAAAAAAAAVEE THEEE POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!"
It took me awhile to warm up to it, but I really got into it cus of Skelator being a badass.

Cartoon Network really killed that show by reairing the terrible episode where Adam has to protect the dragons every single Saturday.
And we can't forget mattel and the "we only sell He-man and no other Masters" toy line killing the show.

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

I have the Skeletor figure from that sereis

[the_ultimate_evil]

so the new writer talks about his ideas and where the script is going

http://mediap1.roadkast.com/moviefeature/Interview-Alex-Litvak.mp3

in summary

no he-man only adam
no battlecat
no transformation
no skull on skeletor
"skeletor" will only use magic
heroes will only use tech
no muscles on he-man

just sound so much like the source:whatever::csad:

[TheFuture]

:facepalm:

Sounds like a writer embarassed to be writing about He-man.

[TruerToTheCore]

so the new writer talks about his ideas and where the script is going

http://mediap1.roadkast.com/moviefeature/Interview-Alex-Litvak.mp3

in summary

no he-man only adam
no battlecat
no transformation
no skull on skeletor
"skeletor" will only use magic
heroes will only use tech
no muscles on he-man

just sound so much like the source:whatever::csad:

:barf:

[the_ultimate_evil]

i mean the guy is just off of predators, so it's not like he's not used to sci-fi/fantasy

[S.A.A.D.]

so the new writer talks about his ideas and where the script is going

http://mediap1.roadkast.com/moviefeature/Interview-Alex-Litvak.mp3

in summary

no he-man only adam
no battlecat
no transformation
no skull on skeletor
"skeletor" will only use magic
heroes will only use tech
no muscles on he-man

just sound so much like the source:whatever::csad:

WTF? :csad:

[Panthro]

I was wondering if one of the He-Man threads would ever resurface.

so the new writer talks about his ideas and where the script is going

http://mediap1.roadkast.com/moviefeature/Interview-Alex-Litvak.mp3

in summary

no he-man only adam
no battlecat
no transformation
no skull on skeletor
"skeletor" will only use magic
heroes will only use tech
no muscles on he-man

just sound so much like the source:whatever::csad:
WTF? Somebody should drag this guy out into the streets and flog him to death. :doh:

You know, I'd rather have no new He-Man film than this BS. Hell, consideirng how the Transfromer movies turned out, I'd rather have no new He-Man film if they were going to turn out like that. Everyone seems to think that just because these films are based on cartoons which are for lack of a better word "cheesy" that means the films must be cheesy but they don't have to be.

[Figs]

If this is how they're going to do a live action film I would rather they make a more accurate animated/CGI film. Imagine a world and characters like these using the graphics quality from Avatar. That could be pretty bad ass.

To be honest though, I would prefer live action but I really think they're screwing the pooch on this one.

[Brian Braddock]

Those details are pretty shocking if true.

[kickass]

When you remove all those elements, it's no longer He-Man. It has nothing to do with He-Man, actually.

[Brian Braddock]

Exactly.

It's like making a Superman movie only saying ''He wont have any powers, a costume, or be called Superman. He'll just go round as Clark Kent. Only we wont call him Clark Kent; we'll change his name. And he wont be a reporter or wear glasses.''

''and we'll make him a woman too while we're at it.''

[Spider-Fan]

WTF, lol. Why even bother making it He-Man at this point?

[Brian Braddock]

Is it time to dust the cobwebs of the whole 'INO' thing and apply it to this?

I think this qualifies. Boy, if anything qualifies, it this.

[CGHulk]

I won't be losing any sleep over this if that's what they want to do because it will no longer He-Man. I bet this will take place in New York City as well. The lead will be Zack Efron or some other teenager.

[Schlosser85]

If you don't want to incorporate ANYTHING from He-Man, then don't make a He-Man movie.

[the_ultimate_evil]

Exactly.

It's like making a Superman movie only saying ''He wont have any powers, a costume, or be called Superman. He'll just go round as Clark Kent. Only we wont call him Clark Kent; we'll change his name. And he wont be a reporter or wear glasses.''



and yet they've got ten seasons out of it

[Brian Braddock]

So they should just call this movie 'Eternia' then? lol.

All joking aside, Smallville's not (and never has been) about Superman. It's about Clarks journey to becoming Superman - something they can afford to do in an ongoing tv show but in a movie? What's the point in making it?

And anyway, they still have Clark using his powers. Whereas if He-Man's just Adam for the entire film..........well, it's pretty much pointless really, isnt it?

Would I go to the cinema to see a He-Man movie that doesnt have He-Man in it?

Hmmm...........

[Thundarr]

This is my dream cast for a REAL He-Man movie.

Jonathan Frakes as King Randor
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Jonathan%20Frakes-1.jpghttp://koti.mbnet.fi/jukka_i/gallery/filmationized/king_randor.png

Sharon Stone as Queen Marlena
http://www.ruggedelegantliving.com/a/images/Sharon.Stone.Ageless.2005.jpghttp://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_5980.jpg

Sam Eliot as Man-At-Arms
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/14267/Sam%20Elliott.jpghttp://www.hemanfigures.com/wp-content/uploads/man-at-arms.jpg

Cate Blanchett as The Sorceress
http://images.askmen.com/photos/cate-blanchett/39309.jpghttp://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/thanatos101b/Sorceress-07.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)

Verne Troyer as Orko
http://goremaster.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/VerneTroyer.jpghttp://www.puddingstore.com/articles/articlepics/orco.jpg

[Thundarr]

Hayden Christensen as Prince Adam
http://www.teendiariesonline.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/letmein-hayden.jpghttp://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/he-man_5.jpg

Tyler Mane as He-Man
http://ffmedia.ign.com/rollerball/mane01.jpghttp://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/hemanbig1.jpg

Elisha Cuthbert as Teela
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OjQaK96fVa4/Swtk6x4RJtI/AAAAAAAAAY4/qTj3K0ozpBA/s1600/Elisha+Cuthbert.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/150249-48654-teela_large.jpg

Christopher Walken as Skeletor
http://www.timburtoncollective.com/images/walken2.jpghttp://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/skeletor_day.jpg

Ron Perlman as Beastman
http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Ron_Perlman/ron_perlman__1_.jpghttp://www.luckyrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/beastman.jpg

[Thundarr]

Angelina Jolie as Evil-Lyn
http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/m/mr_mrs_smith_prem_050608/14.jpghttp://bernd-bocklage.de/wb-neu/media/master-of-the-universe/krieger-des-boesen/Evil-Lyn.jpg

Brian Thompson as Merman
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsT/17058.gifhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WGYIV4tJQiA/SwLTHj6qM1I/AAAAAAAAAYg/uyqEYxJsDos/s1600/Merman_final_low+res.jpg

Richard Kiel as Trapjaw
http://www.starbase21ok.com/rkcolor.jpghttp://www.cincity2000.com/content/images/stories/trapjaw.jpg

Gary Oldman as Triclops
http://img.listal.com/image/252176/600full-gary-oldman.jpghttp://img389.imageshack.us/img389/4543/triclopsnu8.jpg

Michael Ironside as Whiplash
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/11043/michael-ironside-pic.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/14624/302999-21807-whiplash_large.jpg

[Thundarr]

Exactly.

It's like making a Superman movie only saying ''He wont have any powers, a costume, or be called Superman. He'll just go round as Clark Kent. Only we wont call him Clark Kent; we'll change his name. And he wont be a reporter or wear glasses.''

''and we'll make him a woman too while we're at it.''

That kinda sounds like the Superman movie the guy who made Wild Wild West wanted to make, lol.

[Thundarr]

Did anyone like the 2002 He-Man cartoon? I have all 3 seasons on dvd......I love them!! A movie based on that kind of grittiness and adventure and style would be crazy!

I have the entire series on DVD as well. I think they're freakin' awsome! And you're so right, a movie based on that type of storyline would rock. It's too bad other people didn't like it enough to allow it to go its full run. I think the plan was to have four or five seasons worth of stories, but it got cancelled after only three.

[Thundarr]

so the new writer talks about his ideas and where the script is going

http://mediap1.roadkast.com/moviefeature/Interview-Alex-Litvak.mp3

in summary

no he-man only adam
no battlecat
no transformation
no skull on skeletor
"skeletor" will only use magic
heroes will only use tech
no muscles on he-man

just sound so much like the source:whatever::csad:

This will never be made. It has to be approved by Mattel before it can be greenlit. I highly doubt Mattel would greenlight this garbage. The studio will bring them the script and they'll be like, "Ummm, you know this is a He-Man movie right?"

"Yeah."

"So where's He-Man?"

"He-Man's a stupid character, so I got rid of him."

"Uh-huh. And why doesn't Skeletor have a skull?"

"I think that looks stupid."

"Right. Why isn't He-Man . . . I mean, Prince Adam, riding Battle Cat?"

"Riding a giant green tiger's a stupid idea, I didn't like it."

"Okay. Why is Prince Adam described as being scrawny and small?"

"Because that makes him seem more heroic, defeating the bad guys without having to rely on gigantic superhuman muscles."

"Mmm-hmmm. Do you know where the nearest welfare office is?"

"No. Why?"

"Because you're gonna need to go there tomorrow if you have any plans to pay your rent on time. SECURITY!!! Throw this mentally challenged 'artist' out of the building! If he ever tries to get back in? Shoot him!"

[Panthro]

Did anyone like the 2002 He-Man cartoon? I have all 3 seasons on dvd......I love them!! A movie based on that kind of grittiness and adventure and style would be crazy!

I own the DVDs. It was a good series. My only gripes being that they brought Skeletor's nasally voice from the 80s and old skull head's henchmen were still kind of empty upstairs.

[Thundarr]

I own the DVDs. It was a good series. My only gripes being that they brought Skeletor's nasally voice from the 80s and old skull head's henchmen were still kind of empty upstairs.

True to a certain extent, but they were also considerably more powerful. Beastman was just a big hairy idiot in the original cartoon, whose only purpose in life seemed to be getting his butt kicked by He-Man and then yelled at by Skeletor for it. In the new cartoon he had the ability to control beasts. Granted he still got beat up and yelled at a lot, but at least now he's more of a challenge to He-Man. In the original cartoon, Merman was just an evil fish man. In the new cartoon, he has the ability to control the creatures of the sea, in much the same way Beastman controls the beasts of the land. Tri-Clops, Trap-Jaw, and Two-Bad were actually depicted as being smarter than they were in the original. As for the rest? Yeah, they're pretty dumb. But they were added mostly for comic relief anyway. There's always gotta be at least one henchman in every action cartoon that fights pretty well but can't think on his own too well. On TMNT there was Beebop and Rocksteady. On GI Joe there was Zoltan's crew. On Spiderman there was Rhino. It's an old tradition in story telling that goes way back. Even the old Looney Toons and Disney cartoons used this to an extent (though those cartoons were comedies and not action, so it's less relevant to this conversation).

[Brian Braddock]

This will never be made. It has to be approved by Mattel before it can be greenlit. I highly doubt Mattel would greenlight this garbage. The studio will bring them the script and they'll be like, "Ummm, you know this is a He-Man movie right?"

"Yeah."

"So where's He-Man?"

"He-Man's a stupid character, so I got rid of him."

"Uh-huh. And why doesn't Skeletor have a skull?"

"I think that looks stupid."

"Right. Why isn't He-Man . . . I mean, Prince Adam, riding Battle Cat?"

"Riding a giant green tiger's a stupid idea, I didn't like it."

"Okay. Why is Prince Adam described as being scrawny and small?"

"Because that makes him seem more heroic, defeating the bad guys without having to rely on gigantic superhuman muscles."

"Mmm-hmmm. Do you know where the nearest welfare office is?"

"No. Why?"

"Because you're gonna need to go there tomorrow if you have any plans to pay your rent on time. SECURITY!!! Throw this mentally challenged 'artist' out of the building! If he ever tries to get back in? Shoot him!"


:D

''So, why is there no Skeletor?"

"Well, our research shows that there's a certain demographic that may be offended with the prospect of a bad guy called Skeletor''

''I don't beleive it - what demographic?''

"Skeletons.

''Come again?''

''The Skeleton demographic. Apparently the Skeleton community think they've got a bad rep already through films like Jason & The Argonauts and the Karate Kid. They're trying to change that perception and I'm told they'll lobby quite hard against the movie if we have Skeletor as the main villain.''

''*sigh* Ok, what about Hordak?''

''Again, there's a demographic.''

''You're joking. Who?''

''Whores. It's a whole big misunderstanding invloving a typo that got made once back in the 80's, but nevertheless, the whores are agaisnt the use of a character called Hordak being the villain.They're concerned that it will put them in a bad light.''

''Give me strength''

''Sorry. No strength in the movie. We dont want to offend those who dont have any strength in real life.''

''Oh, for Pete's sake.......''

''I think a villain by the name of Pete should be fine........''

''I wasnt suggesting the villain's name be P-''

''........But I'll have to check the demographics.''

[cronosred]

This will never be made. It has to be approved by Mattel before it can be greenlit. I highly doubt Mattel would greenlight this garbage. The studio will bring them the script and they'll be like, "Ummm, you know this is a He-Man movie right?"

"Yeah."

"So where's He-Man?"

"He-Man's a stupid character, so I got rid of him."

"Uh-huh. And why doesn't Skeletor have a skull?"

"I think that looks stupid."

"Right. Why isn't He-Man . . . I mean, Prince Adam, riding Battle Cat?"

"Riding a giant green tiger's a stupid idea, I didn't like it."

"Okay. Why is Prince Adam described as being scrawny and small?"

"Because that makes him seem more heroic, defeating the bad guys without having to rely on gigantic superhuman muscles."

"Mmm-hmmm. Do you know where the nearest welfare office is?"

"No. Why?"

"Because you're gonna need to go there tomorrow if you have any plans to pay your rent on time. SECURITY!!! Throw this mentally challenged 'artist' out of the building! If he ever tries to get back in? Shoot him!"

If Mattel thinks it would make money they would sign off on it just like Hasbro did, besides I would guess since this sounds similar to the Justin Marks script this seems to be the direction Mattel wants to take the film, In fact they had some He-Man movie concept art in an art book they released at comic con last year which shows him slender and covered in armor.

[Thundarr]

:D

''So, why is there no Skeletor?"

"Well, our research shows that there's a certain demographic that may be offended with the prospect of a bad guy called Skeletor''

''I don't beleive it - what demographic?''

"Skeletons.

''Come again?''

''The Skeleton demographic. Apparently the Skeleton community think they've got a bad rep already through films like Jason & The Argonauts and the Karate Kid. They're trying to change that perception and I'm told they'll lobby quite hard against the movie if we have Skeletor as the main villain.''

''*sigh* Ok, what about Hordak?''

''Again, there's a demographic.''

''You're joking. Who?''

''Whores. It's a whole big misunderstanding invloving a typo that got made once back in the 80's, but nevertheless, the whores are agaisnt the use of a character called Hordak being the villain.They're concerned that it will put them in a bad light.''

''Give me strength''

''Sorry. No strength in the movie. We dont want to offend those who dont have any strength in real life.''

''Oh, for Pete's sake.......''

''I think a villain by the name of Pete should be fine........''

''I wasnt suggesting the villain's name be P-''

''........But I'll have to check the demographics.''

:lmao:

[Panthro]

True to a certain extent, but they were also considerably more powerful. Beastman was just a big hairy idiot in the original cartoon, whose only purpose in life seemed to be getting his butt kicked by He-Man and then yelled at by Skeletor for it. In the new cartoon he had the ability to control beasts. Granted he still got beat up and yelled at a lot, but at least now he's more of a challenge to He-Man. In the original cartoon, Merman was just an evil fish man. In the new cartoon, he has the ability to control the creatures of the sea, in much the same way Beastman controls the beasts of the land. Tri-Clops, Trap-Jaw, and Two-Bad were actually depicted as being smarter than they were in the original. As for the rest? Yeah, they're pretty dumb. But they were added mostly for comic relief anyway. There's always gotta be at least one henchman in every action cartoon that fights pretty well but can't think on his own too well. On TMNT there was Beebop and Rocksteady. On GI Joe there was Zoltan's crew. On Spiderman there was Rhino. It's an old tradition in story telling that goes way back. Even the old Looney Toons and Disney cartoons used this to an extent (though those cartoons were comedies and not action, so it's less relevant to this conversation).
It is an old tradition, but that doesn't mean they have to continue it.

Zoltan - I think you mean Zartan?

Also I'm reallynot digging the idea of Hayden Christensen as Adam. Sorry.

[Pink Ranger]

:D

''So, why is there no Skeletor?"

"Well, our research shows that there's a certain demographic that may be offended with the prospect of a bad guy called Skeletor''



Dude, don't even joke about that, it happened in real life. In early stages of producing the Filmation cartoon, they felt that Skeletor would be too scary for children in some markets, France I think, so they purposefully used Skeletor quite sparingly. That's why nearly half the episodes aren't even about Skeletor and his minions, but are about He-man going on some other kind of quest. Episodes like that were the only ones some kids saw outside North America.

Not that it was such a bad thing, but that's the reason for so many non-Skeletor stories in the orignal cartoon.

[Thundarr]

It is an old tradition, but that doesn't mean they have to continue it.

Zoltan - I think you mean Zartan?
Been a while since I saw the cartoon. I'm going on 20+ year old memories.

Also I'm reallynot digging the idea of Hayden Christensen as Adam. Sorry.

Well, he's a better choice than Zack Effron and most other young actors available today.

[TheVileOne]

All the ideas Litvak has for the He-Man movie are horrible.

He should not be allowed to work on this project anymore.

[Thundarr]

If Mattel thinks it would make money they would sign off on it just like Hasbro did, besides I would guess since this sounds similar to the Justin Marks script this seems to be the direction Mattel wants to take the film, In fact they had some He-Man movie concept art in an art book they released at comic con last year which shows him slender and covered in armor.

No. The Justin Marks script didn't get picked up because he wanted to make all those changes, and Mattel didn't like them. So Mike Finch and Alex Litvak doing it too just makes no logical sense.


Originally Posted by Borys Kit
Mike Finch and Alex Litvak, the duo who wrote the upcoming "Predators" reboot, have been brought aboard to pen "Masters of the Universe" for Columbia.

The studio picked up movie rights to the 1980s Mattel toy property in the fall, when Mattel and Warner Bros. parted ways after the sides couldn't agree on a creative vision.

The addition of the rising writers is the first major move on the property and signals the project is being rebuilt from the ground up. While at Warners, "Masters" went through several writers and in latter stages had John Stevenson, who co-helmed "Kung Fu Panda," attached to direct.

Getting the go-ahead to tackle any major toy-brand film can be tricky. Depending on the property, writers and directors need to get a thumbs-up from the studio, which then has to win approval from the toy company. In the case of "Masters," Mattel has story approval.

In their pitch, the scribes attempted to balance a treatment that would convince the studio it was cinematic and keep the toy company satisfied that its characters were being portrayed appropriately.

The '80s show, "He-Man and the Masters of the Universe," centered on blond warrior Prince Adam, who, after uttering the magic words "By the power of Grayskull, I have the power," turned into the heroic He-Man. He and his allies -- Battle Cat, Man-at-Arms and Orko -- defended their planet Eternia from the evil forces of Skeletor, who week after week attempted to conquer the fortress Castle Grayskull, which imbues He-Man with his powers.

Todd Black, Jason Blumenthal and Steve Tisch of Escape Artists are producing.

The Verve-repped Finch and Litvak made a splash last year with "Medieval," which jolted the spec market when it sold to New Regency for big bucks. That script scored the duo the coveted gig of writing the Robert Rodriguez-produced "Predators," helping the long-in-development sequel go from script to screen in just more than a year.


Does the proposed script sound at all like the "characters are being portrayed properly"? Because it sure as s#!t doesn't sound that way to me.

Mattel is going to want to market a whole new line of action figures, video games, and toys based on the movie. No one's going to want to see a He-Man movie without He-Man. They're not going to want to see a Skeletor movie without Skeletor. And they're not going to want to buy any Masters Of The Universe toys that have absolutely nothing to do with The Masters Of The Universe.

So no, I don't think any of us have to worry about this crap screenplay getting greenlit. Even if Warner or Universal or whomever holds the rights to produce the film now (God I hope it's not FOX) greenlights The Masters Of The Universe script that has no He-Man, no Skeletor, no Battle Cat, no Teela, no Man-At-Arms, no Sorceress, no Castle Grayskull, no Orko, no Beastman, no Merman, no Whiplash, no Tri-Klops, no Man-E-Faces, no Evil-Lyn, no King Randor, no Queen Marlena, no ANYTHING REMOTELY CONNECTED TO THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE, we can be fairly certain that Mattel will look at the writers and say "Are you f**king r*t*rded?"

[Thundarr]

All the ideas Litvak has for the He-Man movie are horrible.

He should not be allowed to work on this project anymore.

:up: Agreed! :up:

[Pink Ranger]

:up: Agreed! :up:

Yeah, he should be given a fantasy property that nobody gives a crap about ... like Thundarr the Barbarian! :funny:

[Thundarr]

(Politely ignoring that last comment by Pink Ranger)

I just had a thought. A Masters Of The Universe movie without He-Man, Battle-Cat, or Skeletor could actually work. If, and only if, they were to make the movie about a young King Randor and his evil half brother Keldor. Then in the final battle, one of Keldor's men is caught in an explosion (costing him his arm, his leg, and his lower jaw), and Keldor tries to throw acid in Randor's face only to have it deflected back into his own face, melting it off.

We then get our "happily ever after" scene, followed by the end credits. Then after the credits are finished rolling, we get a "surprise bonus scene" of Tri-Klops fitting his injured companion with a prosthetic arm, leg, and jaw (the birth of Trap-Jaw), and an injured Keldor begging the spirit of Horde Prime (rather than Hordak so that there can be a possible She-Ra spin off) to save his life. Horde Prime agrees, and turns Keldor into Skeletor. Then if the movie is successful enough, they can make a sequel about He-Man.

[Panthro]

All the ideas Litvak has for the He-Man movie are horrible.

He should not be allowed to work on this project anymore.
Agreed

[TheVileOne]

Also Predators wasn't that good :p .

[rogue trooper]

Also Predators wasn't that good :p .

Oh yes it was.:p

....which is why I'm surprised this writer's take on this particular project is so off.:huh:

[TheVileOne]

Predators was an OK movie but still inferior in every way to Predator.

[rogue trooper]

Predators was an OK movie but still inferior in every way to Predator.

It was a solid film that stands on its own, and I don't think it's inferior to "Predator" to such a strong degree.

[Panthro]

"Predators" was better than anyone had a right to expect. Now let's leave it at that.

[TheVileOne]

It was an OK flick. But it's still only just really copying the best parts of Predator.

[Thundarr]

It was a solid film that stands on its own, and I don't think it's inferior to "Predator" to such a strong degree.

I agree. Predators is at least as good as Predator 2, which admittedly isn't as good as the original. But then, what sequel ever is?

[Pink Ranger]

Predators was good, but not really worth the price of a movie ticket.

[Thundarr]

Oh yes it was.:p

....which is why I'm surprised this writer's take on this particular project is so off.:huh:

That surprised me too, because I really enjoyed Predators as well. How could a writer get it so right with one movie, yet so drastically wrong with the next?

[Figs]

That surprised me too, because I really enjoyed Predators as well. How could a writer get it so right with one movie, yet so drastically wrong with the next?

My only guess is that with Predators, Rodriguez had a lot of input and the writer just doesn't understand or care for the Masters of the Universe material.

[Thundarr]

My only guess is that with Predators, Rodriguez had a lot of input and the writer just doesn't understand or care for the Masters of the Universe material.

That's certainly a possibility. But if he doesn't like or care about Masters Of The Universe, what the hell is he doing writing a script for it? And if it's a simple case of being unfamiliar with the material, he should have asked Mattel to supply him with as many of the old minicomics as they can give him, in addition to watching not only the old cartoons from the 80's as well as the 2002 reboot. Familiarize himself with the characters and what the fans are likely to expect, then try and come up with a story that will satisfy fans and the general audience alike. At least in theory anyway.

[Thundarr]

Here's an idea:

How about a movie about Lord Grayskull defeating King Hiss and the snake people? The story would still take place on Eternia. The main character would (essentially) be He-Man. He would ride a giant green lion (as opposed to a giant green tiger). And we would still have The Sorceress. It's just that the story would take place about a thousand years or so before Prince Adam was ever born. So it will be a fresh new take on a Masters Of The Universe film, but should still satisfy the fans of the show (especially those who prefer the 2002-2003 reboot).

Could be interesting.

[Guhndoi]

Man, this is something I don't want to see F'd up. The 'toons were my fave as a kid.

[Thundarr]

Man, this is something I don't want to see F'd up. The 'toons were my fave as a kid.

I totally agree. It was my favorite as a kid as well. However I must admit that as an adult, I greatly prefer the 2002 reboot.

[TheVileOne]

Here's an idea, how about just making a He-Man and the Masters of The Universe movie?

No one is going to see a movie about King Grayskull. The brand is about He-Man.

[Thundarr]

Here's an idea, how about just making a He-Man and the Masters of The Universe movie?

No one is going to see a movie about King Grayskull. The brand is about He-Man.

They might, if the movie weren't called Masters Of The Universe, and the studio makes it clear that the while the movie takes place on Eternia, that it is in fact a prequel to the story of He-Man. I'm not saying it's the greatest idea, or even the best way to go. But it is a hell of a lot better than any of the scripts that have been penned recently.

Just to be clear, I agree that a He-Man & The Masters Of The Universe movie would be best if it had, I dunno, maybe He-Man and The Masters Of The Universe. But if you were to make a Masters Of The Universe movie without He-Man or any of the Masters Of The Universe, then making one about King Grayskull battling King Hiss, or Captain Randor battling his evil half brother Keldor would be the way to go.

[KangConquers]

I really don't like the sound of this pitch at all :-(

[TheFuture]

That's certainly a possibility. But if he doesn't like or care about Masters Of The Universe, what the hell is he doing writing a script for it?

$$$$

It's just another job to him, but due to his ego, doesn't feel like "lowering" himself to be faithful to the source material. :whatever:

In short, he's a mercenary, and not even one with talent at that.

[GhostPoet]

I saw go all out. Make it epic. Make it bloody. Make it brutal. Call him He-Man and have it and his allies fight against Skeletor ala Lord of the Rings style.

No one is going to laugh at He-Man's name when he's dismembering guys left and right. :)

[Doctor Jones]

Well, I'm no fan of He-Man but I want this to be good. These ideas are ****ing awful. No HE-MAN?? What is this ****?

[Figs]

They might, if the movie weren't called Masters Of The Universe, and the studio makes it clear that the while the movie takes place on Eternia, that it is in fact a prequel to the story of He-Man. I'm not saying it's the greatest idea, or even the best way to go. But it is a hell of a lot better than any of the scripts that have been penned recently.

Ugh...

Yet another thing they want to turn into a franchise but instead of trying to focus on making a good first movie they probably have it planned out as a possible trilogy already. If this really is a prequel, the entire movie will just be a setup for the second film which will be about He-Man. That's my guess at least.

[the_ultimate_evil]

sod that no prequel. you don't make the first film about uncle ben or thomas wayne

seriously this can be done take the basis for the first 200x movie and start from there. the film is sadly seems to be dead as nothing is going ahead

[Panthro]

sod that no prequel. you don't make the first film about uncle ben or thomas wayne

seriously this can be done take the basis for the first 200x movie and start from there. the film is sadly seems to be dead as nothing is going ahead
Yeah, the 2002 version laid a good foundation for how to reboot it. I'd rather the film be dead though than be done incorrectly. Making a He-Man & the Masters of the Universe film should not be treated as another excuse to dump on a beloved 80s properties, it should be seen, must be seen, as a chance to do things the mini-comics and previous cartoons couldn't do, to finally play out those storylines and destinies always hinted at in the cartoons & comics but never fulfilled due to the stupidity of those in power or just plain bad luck.

Look this is how it should be done -

Film 1 - basic origin story and introduction to the MOTU world. How the lazy & arrogant yet oddly likable Prince Adam discovers his destiny as He-Man, Defender of Eternia, bestowed upon him by the Sorceress of Castle Grayskull, the war with Skeletor, formerly Keldor, whose face was burned off by King Randor when he tried to kill Randor's wife Queen Marlena when she was nearing the end of her pregnancy, quick overview on the ancient history of Adam's ancestor King Grayskull and his war with King Hiss, establish allies & enemies on both sides, subtle hint of Hordak. And because there always has to be some blasphemous change from source material, Princess Adora, the fraternal twin sister who becomes She-Ra, should be there growing up on Eternia with her family instead of being kidnapped as an infant, simply because waiting until part 3 to introduce her and expect the audience to care about her would be nearly impossible to pull off. When He-Man/Adam asks the Sorceress (whom he notices bares a striking resemblance to Teela, and even mentions this to Man-At-Arms) about the second sword that was being held next to his own, she replies: "That sword has a destiny all its own."

Film 2 - the strain of a double life takes its toll on Adam as his secret undermines his relationships with friends and family alike; only his sister Adora suspects the truth, with Man-At-Arms and Orko being the only ones definitely in the know. Rather than resent his alter ego, Adam starts to drift away more and more from his 'real' life as the Prince of Eternia and becomes more and more lost within his other life as He-Man, as he only feels truly appreciated, happy and free in that form. Meanwhile his rough and tumble love interest Teela is badly injured in a fight with Skeletor's thugs while defending Castle Grayskull and is nursed back to health by the mysterious Sorceress of Grayskull, who she discovers is her mother (real name Teela'Na). While continuing his plot(s) to take over Eternia, Skeletor discovers that Adam & He-Man are one and the same, and tries to kill him in his weaker form, but instead kills Randor in a fierce duel when the King of Eternia intervenes to save his son. Grief stricken and guilt ridden, Adam channels his rage into He-Man and wreaks a terrible vengeance on Skeletor and his thugs, leaving most of them dead or crippled, and ending with a chilling scene of He-Man killing Skeletor by crushing his skull with his bare hands and then tossing his corpse into the river of lava that flows from Snake Mountain. His purpose seemingly complete, He-Man then goes to Grayskull to relinquish the Sword of Power and resume his life as Adam, but en route to the Castle, he is detoured by the arrival of Zodak, who warns him of the invasion of... Hordak! Last shot before the credits roll is the Horde hovering over Eternia, and a close up of Hordak in his chair.

Film 3 - Hordak's invasion of Eternia. The Power Sword is destroyed and the shards of the blade scattered, cutting Adam off from the power of He-Man. Princess Adora is abducted & brainwashed into helping overthrow the primary Eternian army and scattering the Heroic Masters (Man-At-Arms, Teela, Startos, Man-E-Faces, Meckaneck, Buzz-Off, Fisto, Ram-Man and yes even Orko). Evil-Lynn forms an alliance with Hordak and then steals the power of Castle Grayskull for herself, transforming herself into a Dark Sorceress, and making the true but now powerless Sorceress her prisoner. Risking life and limb, the Masters break into the Castle, engaging in a desperate battle with Dark Sorceress-Evil-Lynn; Teela manages to free her mother and, together, they succeed in taking the power back from Evil-Lynn, but mother-Sorceress is now too weak to take the power back into herself, and so the power goes to Teela, making her the new Sorceress of Grayskull. Mother and Daughter reconcile and set about trying to figure out how to reconnect Adam with the power of He-Man; the solution they hit upon is to permanently fuse the power of Grayskull into Adam, seemingly trapping him in the body of He-Man forever, which he agrees to in order to save Eternia. Restored, He-Man leads the Masters in rescuing his sister and undoing the brainwashing done to her; seeking redemption, Adora accepts the other sword seen briefly in film 1 and becomes She-Ra. From there, He-Man, She-Ra, & the Masters defeat Hordak, and the film ends with the heroes rebuilding Eternia.

Just my two cents.

[TheFuture]

Well thought out man, I could dig a trilogy like that. :up:

[Heretic]

I would like that trilogy idea as well...minus Orko. I personally cant stand Prince Adam either...but I accept the fact that it is an almost universally accepted alter ego.

[terry78]

They're not gonna omit Orko. Too many fanboys want him in it. Including me.

[Heretic]

But how does Orko from the cartoon even remotely fit into a world wear a man whos flesh is seared from his face and later gets his head crushed? Or is there a more adult oriented Orko somewhere else?

[Pink Ranger]

But how does Orko from the cartoon even remotely fit into a world wear a man whos flesh is seared from his face and later gets his head crushed? Or is there a more adult oriented Orko somewhere else?

That good way of describing Skeletor can also be used on Orko as well: a disembodied levitating entity whose face always remains shrouded, who has chaotic magical powers beyond our comprehension.

[Heretic]

That good way of describing Skeletor can also be used on Orko as well: a disembodied levitating entity whose face always remains shrouded, who has chaotic magical powers beyond our comprehension.

Yes, but Orko is a fun, child-friendly little buddy that is always getting into shenanigans, and his magic rarely works. His entire purpose was to provide a kid-friendly comic relief in the cartoon. Not sure how that fits in with some dude getting his skull crushed...unless you plan on changing Orko completely...and in that case, why bother?

[terry78]

He can be funny, but not Jar Jar funny. The irony has always been that he's RIDICULOUSLY powerful as far as magic goes, he just can't control it.

[Panthro]

I don't think anyone wants Orko to sink to the depths of Jar Jar Binks.

[Mister H.]

I wish someone would make this film and treat it with dignity and respect. I think it could tear movies like 300 and Clash Of The Titans a new orifice.

[Panthro]

I wish someone would make this film and treat it with dignity and respect. I think it could tear movies like 300 and Clash Of The Titans a new orifice.
Your wish is everyone's wish.

[Thundarr]

Yeah, the 2002 version laid a good foundation for how to reboot it. I'd rather the film be dead though than be done incorrectly. Making a He-Man & the Masters of the Universe film should not be treated as another excuse to dump on a beloved 80s properties, it should be seen, must be seen, as a chance to do things the mini-comics and previous cartoons couldn't do, to finally play out those storylines and destinies always hinted at in the cartoons & comics but never fulfilled due to the stupidity of those in power or just plain bad luck.

Look this is how it should be done -

Film 1 - basic origin story and introduction to the MOTU world. How the lazy & arrogant yet oddly likable Prince Adam discovers his destiny as He-Man, Defender of Eternia, bestowed upon him by the Sorceress of Castle Grayskull, the war with Skeletor, formerly Keldor, whose face was burned off by King Randor when he tried to kill Randor's wife Queen Marlena when she was nearing the end of her pregnancy, quick overview on the ancient history of Adam's ancestor King Grayskull and his war with King Hiss, establish allies & enemies on both sides, subtle hint of Hordak. And because there always has to be some blasphemous change from source material, Princess Adora, the fraternal twin sister who becomes She-Ra, should be there growing up on Eternia with her family instead of being kidnapped as an infant, simply because waiting until part 3 to introduce her and expect the audience to care about her would be nearly impossible to pull off. When He-Man/Adam asks the Sorceress (whom he notices bares a striking resemblance to Teela, and even mentions this to Man-At-Arms) about the second sword that was being held next to his own, she replies: "That sword has a destiny all its own."

Film 2 - the strain of a double life takes its toll on Adam as his secret undermines his relationships with friends and family alike; only his sister Adora suspects the truth, with Man-At-Arms and Orko being the only ones definitely in the know. Rather than resent his alter ego, Adam starts to drift away more and more from his 'real' life as the Prince of Eternia and becomes more and more lost within his other life as He-Man, as he only feels truly appreciated, happy and free in that form. Meanwhile his rough and tumble love interest Teela is badly injured in a fight with Skeletor's thugs while defending Castle Grayskull and is nursed back to health by the mysterious Sorceress of Grayskull, who she discovers is her mother (real name Teela'Na). While continuing his plot(s) to take over Eternia, Skeletor discovers that Adam & He-Man are one and the same, and tries to kill him in his weaker form, but instead kills Randor in a fierce duel when the King of Eternia intervenes to save his son. Grief stricken and guilt ridden, Adam channels his rage into He-Man and wreaks a terrible vengeance on Skeletor and his thugs, leaving most of them dead or crippled, and ending with a chilling scene of He-Man killing Skeletor by crushing his skull with his bare hands and then tossing his corpse into the river of lava that flows from Snake Mountain. His purpose seemingly complete, He-Man then goes to Grayskull to relinquish the Sword of Power and resume his life as Adam, but en route to the Castle, he is detoured by the arrival of Zodak, who warns him of the invasion of... Hordak! Last shot before the credits roll is the Horde hovering over Eternia, and a close up of Hordak in his chair.

Film 3 - Hordak's invasion of Eternia. The Power Sword is destroyed and the shards of the blade scattered, cutting Adam off from the power of He-Man. Princess Adora is abducted & brainwashed into helping overthrow the primary Eternian army and scattering the Heroic Masters (Man-At-Arms, Teela, Startos, Man-E-Faces, Meckaneck, Buzz-Off, Fisto, Ram-Man and yes even Orko). Evil-Lynn forms an alliance with Hordak and then steals the power of Castle Grayskull for herself, transforming herself into a Dark Sorceress, and making the true but now powerless Sorceress her prisoner. Risking life and limb, the Masters break into the Castle, engaging in a desperate battle with Dark Sorceress-Evil-Lynn; Teela manages to free her mother and, together, they succeed in taking the power back from Evil-Lynn, but mother-Sorceress is now too weak to take the power back into herself, and so the power goes to Teela, making her the new Sorceress of Grayskull. Mother and Daughter reconcile and set about trying to figure out how to reconnect Adam with the power of He-Man; the solution they hit upon is to permanently fuse the power of Grayskull into Adam, seemingly trapping him in the body of He-Man forever, which he agrees to in order to save Eternia. Restored, He-Man leads the Masters in rescuing his sister and undoing the brainwashing done to her; seeking redemption, Adora accepts the other sword seen briefly in film 1 and becomes She-Ra. From there, He-Man, She-Ra, & the Masters defeat Hordak, and the film ends with the heroes rebuilding Eternia.

Just my two cents.

I'd pay money to see that.

[Thundarr]

By the way, is there any new news on this movie? Seems like every time the project gets a new writer, they claim they're gonna write a story which respects the source material and then they do just the opposite.

[Panthro]

By the way, is there any new news on this movie? Seems like every time the project gets a new writer, they claim they're gonna write a story which respects the source material and then they do just the opposite.
I haven't heard anything lately about the project going forward or new people coming in or whatever. My nightmare fuel is that someone's gonna go all Michael Bay on it, and that's not what any of us want for He-Man & the Masters of the Universe.

[Brian Braddock]

Your wish is everyone's wish.

Everyone but the people in charge of making the movie, seemingly.

[Thundarr]

Everyone but the people in charge of making the movie, seemingly.

Correction: Everyone but the people hired to write the script.

If the people in charge of making the movie didn't want to treat the project with dignity and respect, they'd have greenlit one of those God-awful scripts with no He-Man, Battle-Cat, Skeletor, and all the other things those idiot writers cut from the story.

[Thundarr]

bump

[HopeOfTheFuture]

Yeah, the 2002 version laid a good foundation for how to reboot it. I'd rather the film be dead though than be done incorrectly. Making a He-Man & the Masters of the Universe film should not be treated as another excuse to dump on a beloved 80s properties, it should be seen, must be seen, as a chance to do things the mini-comics and previous cartoons couldn't do, to finally play out those storylines and destinies always hinted at in the cartoons & comics but never fulfilled due to the stupidity of those in power or just plain bad luck.

Look this is how it should be done -

Film 1 - basic origin story and introduction to the MOTU world. How the lazy & arrogant yet oddly likable Prince Adam discovers his destiny as He-Man, Defender of Eternia, bestowed upon him by the Sorceress of Castle Grayskull, the war with Skeletor, formerly Keldor, whose face was burned off by King Randor when he tried to kill Randor's wife Queen Marlena when she was nearing the end of her pregnancy, quick overview on the ancient history of Adam's ancestor King Grayskull and his war with King Hiss, establish allies & enemies on both sides, subtle hint of Hordak. And because there always has to be some blasphemous change from source material, Princess Adora, the fraternal twin sister who becomes She-Ra, should be there growing up on Eternia with her family instead of being kidnapped as an infant, simply because waiting until part 3 to introduce her and expect the audience to care about her would be nearly impossible to pull off. When He-Man/Adam asks the Sorceress (whom he notices bares a striking resemblance to Teela, and even mentions this to Man-At-Arms) about the second sword that was being held next to his own, she replies: "That sword has a destiny all its own."

Film 2 - the strain of a double life takes its toll on Adam as his secret undermines his relationships with friends and family alike; only his sister Adora suspects the truth, with Man-At-Arms and Orko being the only ones definitely in the know. Rather than resent his alter ego, Adam starts to drift away more and more from his 'real' life as the Prince of Eternia and becomes more and more lost within his other life as He-Man, as he only feels truly appreciated, happy and free in that form. Meanwhile his rough and tumble love interest Teela is badly injured in a fight with Skeletor's thugs while defending Castle Grayskull and is nursed back to health by the mysterious Sorceress of Grayskull, who she discovers is her mother (real name Teela'Na). While continuing his plot(s) to take over Eternia, Skeletor discovers that Adam & He-Man are one and the same, and tries to kill him in his weaker form, but instead kills Randor in a fierce duel when the King of Eternia intervenes to save his son. Grief stricken and guilt ridden, Adam channels his rage into He-Man and wreaks a terrible vengeance on Skeletor and his thugs, leaving most of them dead or crippled, and ending with a chilling scene of He-Man killing Skeletor by crushing his skull with his bare hands and then tossing his corpse into the river of lava that flows from Snake Mountain. His purpose seemingly complete, He-Man then goes to Grayskull to relinquish the Sword of Power and resume his life as Adam, but en route to the Castle, he is detoured by the arrival of Zodak, who warns him of the invasion of... Hordak! Last shot before the credits roll is the Horde hovering over Eternia, and a close up of Hordak in his chair.

Film 3 - Hordak's invasion of Eternia. The Power Sword is destroyed and the shards of the blade scattered, cutting Adam off from the power of He-Man. Princess Adora is abducted & brainwashed into helping overthrow the primary Eternian army and scattering the Heroic Masters (Man-At-Arms, Teela, Startos, Man-E-Faces, Meckaneck, Buzz-Off, Fisto, Ram-Man and yes even Orko). Evil-Lynn forms an alliance with Hordak and then steals the power of Castle Grayskull for herself, transforming herself into a Dark Sorceress, and making the true but now powerless Sorceress her prisoner. Risking life and limb, the Masters break into the Castle, engaging in a desperate battle with Dark Sorceress-Evil-Lynn; Teela manages to free her mother and, together, they succeed in taking the power back from Evil-Lynn, but mother-Sorceress is now too weak to take the power back into herself, and so the power goes to Teela, making her the new Sorceress of Grayskull. Mother and Daughter reconcile and set about trying to figure out how to reconnect Adam with the power of He-Man; the solution they hit upon is to permanently fuse the power of Grayskull into Adam, seemingly trapping him in the body of He-Man forever, which he agrees to in order to save Eternia. Restored, He-Man leads the Masters in rescuing his sister and undoing the brainwashing done to her; seeking redemption, Adora accepts the other sword seen briefly in film 1 and becomes She-Ra. From there, He-Man, She-Ra, & the Masters defeat Hordak, and the film ends with the heroes rebuilding Eternia.

Just my two cents.
I like this trilogy.

An other option is to continue the Dolph Lundgren movie and have Hordak appear as new villain. Have the story place on Eternia instead of earth and gives us a litle backstory on Skeletor/Hordak (Skeletor betraying Hordak and sending him to another dimension, this all taking place before the story of Ludgren's movie). Perhaps something like our heroes returned back to Eternia after the Lundgren movie. There, life seems good again after Skeletor's death (scene after Lundgren's movie credits show him still alive). Then something happens (something predicted) so that Hordak can return from the dimension he was cast into by Skeletor. Hordak is more powerful than Skeletor and gives He-man a run for his movie. After Hordak's defeat, He-Man and co think it has finally ended. After credits show that Skeletor has returned (and is perhaps manipulating someone in order as a setup for a third movie).

[Dugath]

Yeah, the 2002 version laid a good foundation for how to reboot it. I'd rather the film be dead though than be done incorrectly. Making a He-Man & the Masters of the Universe film should not be treated as another excuse to dump on a beloved 80s properties, it should be seen, must be seen, as a chance to do things the mini-comics and previous cartoons couldn't do, to finally play out those storylines and destinies always hinted at in the cartoons & comics but never fulfilled due to the stupidity of those in power or just plain bad luck.

Look this is how it should be done -

Film 1 - basic origin story and introduction to the MOTU world. How the lazy & arrogant yet oddly likable Prince Adam discovers his destiny as He-Man, Defender of Eternia, bestowed upon him by the Sorceress of Castle Grayskull, the war with Skeletor, formerly Keldor, whose face was burned off by King Randor when he tried to kill Randor's wife Queen Marlena when she was nearing the end of her pregnancy, quick overview on the ancient history of Adam's ancestor King Grayskull and his war with King Hiss, establish allies & enemies on both sides, subtle hint of Hordak. And because there always has to be some blasphemous change from source material, Princess Adora, the fraternal twin sister who becomes She-Ra, should be there growing up on Eternia with her family instead of being kidnapped as an infant, simply because waiting until part 3 to introduce her and expect the audience to care about her would be nearly impossible to pull off. When He-Man/Adam asks the Sorceress (whom he notices bares a striking resemblance to Teela, and even mentions this to Man-At-Arms) about the second sword that was being held next to his own, she replies: "That sword has a destiny all its own."

Film 2 - the strain of a double life takes its toll on Adam as his secret undermines his relationships with friends and family alike; only his sister Adora suspects the truth, with Man-At-Arms and Orko being the only ones definitely in the know. Rather than resent his alter ego, Adam starts to drift away more and more from his 'real' life as the Prince of Eternia and becomes more and more lost within his other life as He-Man, as he only feels truly appreciated, happy and free in that form. Meanwhile his rough and tumble love interest Teela is badly injured in a fight with Skeletor's thugs while defending Castle Grayskull and is nursed back to health by the mysterious Sorceress of Grayskull, who she discovers is her mother (real name Teela'Na). While continuing his plot(s) to take over Eternia, Skeletor discovers that Adam & He-Man are one and the same, and tries to kill him in his weaker form, but instead kills Randor in a fierce duel when the King of Eternia intervenes to save his son. Grief stricken and guilt ridden, Adam channels his rage into He-Man and wreaks a terrible vengeance on Skeletor and his thugs, leaving most of them dead or crippled, and ending with a chilling scene of He-Man killing Skeletor by crushing his skull with his bare hands and then tossing his corpse into the river of lava that flows from Snake Mountain. His purpose seemingly complete, He-Man then goes to Grayskull to relinquish the Sword of Power and resume his life as Adam, but en route to the Castle, he is detoured by the arrival of Zodak, who warns him of the invasion of... Hordak! Last shot before the credits roll is the Horde hovering over Eternia, and a close up of Hordak in his chair.

Film 3 - Hordak's invasion of Eternia. The Power Sword is destroyed and the shards of the blade scattered, cutting Adam off from the power of He-Man. Princess Adora is abducted & brainwashed into helping overthrow the primary Eternian army and scattering the Heroic Masters (Man-At-Arms, Teela, Startos, Man-E-Faces, Meckaneck, Buzz-Off, Fisto, Ram-Man and yes even Orko). Evil-Lynn forms an alliance with Hordak and then steals the power of Castle Grayskull for herself, transforming herself into a Dark Sorceress, and making the true but now powerless Sorceress her prisoner. Risking life and limb, the Masters break into the Castle, engaging in a desperate battle with Dark Sorceress-Evil-Lynn; Teela manages to free her mother and, together, they succeed in taking the power back from Evil-Lynn, but mother-Sorceress is now too weak to take the power back into herself, and so the power goes to Teela, making her the new Sorceress of Grayskull. Mother and Daughter reconcile and set about trying to figure out how to reconnect Adam with the power of He-Man; the solution they hit upon is to permanently fuse the power of Grayskull into Adam, seemingly trapping him in the body of He-Man forever, which he agrees to in order to save Eternia. Restored, He-Man leads the Masters in rescuing his sister and undoing the brainwashing done to her; seeking redemption, Adora accepts the other sword seen briefly in film 1 and becomes She-Ra. From there, He-Man, She-Ra, & the Masters defeat Hordak, and the film ends with the heroes rebuilding Eternia.

Just my two cents.

They would NEVER have He-Man murder Skeletor lol. Especially by crushing his head.

[the_ultimate_evil]

this film isn't happening, sadly. all we get is the guy at sony constantly saying ohh yeah we're working on it, it'll be epic.

been doing that for a while yeah

[Marx]

It would be nice to see a true MOTU movie...

[Airwings]

Yes, but Orko is a fun, child-friendly little buddy that is always getting into shenanigans, and his magic rarely works. His entire purpose was to provide a kid-friendly comic relief in the cartoon.
He can be funny, but not Jar Jar funny. The irony has always been that he's RIDICULOUSLY powerful as far as magic goes, he just can't control it.
Wasn't Orko close to kill Hordack off in rage one time? I don't remember well, but he was hypnotized into letting the dark side over-take him. It didn't make him more powerful, only more in tune with his own magic. Members of the Hord couldn't stop Orko, and he had Hordack by his feet. Only He-Man could stop the killing, by talking Orko into reason.

[Panthro]

They would NEVER have He-Man murder Skeletor lol. Especially by crushing his head.
If they're willing to let Batman break his "no killing rule" across various live action films - and were willing to show He-Man killing bad guys in the 1987 film - I wouldn't be surprised to see him taking the lives of some villains again.

[TheVileOne]

Here is your basic trilogy:

Movie 1 - Skeletor

Movie 2 - Snake Men

Movie 3 - Hordak, Horde, and She-Ra.