Negatron Lives!!!

[Hotwire]

The film barely started shooting, and already some are bashing it. Those who are unhappy with anything, post here.

[cosmicherosa]

I tend not to pay attention to cry babies.

[Anti-Moderator]

I tend not to pay attention to cry babies.



Yet here you are......

[cosmicherosa]

Yet here you are......

Looking through your profile and previous posts, one would say you are an immature baby. Probably the king of them all, Mister "What I say is law". Loser that is now added to my ignore list. Not worth my time.

[oakzap425]

I see more bashing between the two of you than I see about transformers. I'm no mod, but seriously, take it to pm, if you have an issue with each other. This is for transformers talk. Jesus, day three, and already people are fighting. It's a messageboard, get the **** over it. :down

[Nakon]

If you guys have nothing better to do than fight on a messageboard then for sure get the **** off the forum.

Anyways, I'm not really "unhappy", i'm in between for the most part. If that makes any sense.

[oakzap425]

I think there seems to be too many humans again. That's my only gripe.

[Golgo-13]

Ah, the Negatron thread lives!

[Watson]

I would prefer a red Hot Rod.

[Decoy Lad]

The film barely started shooting, and already some are bashing it.


Same writers and director leave little hope that the sequel will be any better then the first movie (which was awful).

[Avangarde]

Yay the return of the Negatron's, this is going to be a laugh :up:

[Decoy Lad]

Yay the return of the Negatron's, this is going to be a laugh :up:


Hopefully more laughs then the last Transformer movie.:grin:

[Nathan]

The flames on Prime have to go! :cmad:




:oldrazz:



No, seriously. Get rid of them. :o

[Avangarde]

Hopefully more laughs then the last Transformer movie.:grin:

That's simple, just keep the cheese out :o

[Overman27pj]

I think its fine to have threads like this....there was pure choas on the boards before HR's idea to start these threads before the first movie...it was insane!

[DorkyFresh]

no really diggin' the title. i would have preferred something like 'Transformers 2: Deceptacons Attack' or 'Transformers 2: Retaliation'. Revenge of the Fallen just sounds like they're trying too hard to make it sound epic imo.

[Decoy Lad]

That's simple, just keep the cheese out :o


No cheese in a Micheal Bay movie? :funny:


At this point, I would just settle for a cheese free title.

[brimstone_halo]

I would prefer a red Hot Rod.

I know it's lame but it gives you an idea of what that vett would look like in red.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g249/tool529/hotrodcopy-1.jpg

[Franklin Richards]

Did they get rid of Shia LeSuck?


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Anti-Moderator]

I see more bashing between the two of you than I see about transformers. I'm no mod, but seriously, take it to pm, if you have an issue with each other. This is for transformers talk. Jesus, day three, and already people are fighting. It's a messageboard, get the **** over it. :down



I honestly have no idea what you are talking about in regards to seeing bashing between me and whatshisname....I'm not even sure I've even been in contact with this user before, but I'm sure you can ask him since he took the time to look through all my posts...which IMO is a catagory of lame so powerful that he could wear a cape and fight crime with it.


I was simply pointing out the ridiculousness of someone coming in here, a thread devoted to people who are not happy with the franchise, and make a comment like "I don't pay attention to crybabies" when the fact is that they are paying attention to the "crybabies" by posting in this thread. There is a reason why there are postive and negative threads....to maintain a level of peace. If you don't want to hear/read people gushing over the TF films then don't post in the Optimist thread...and if you don't like to hear/read negative or "crying" about the film, stay out of this thread. It's quite simple really.

[IamProdigy]

People ***** way too much...

Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen doesn't sound that bad at all.

Optimus better keep the red flames, because it looks awesome.

And Shia 'The Beef' is a great actor mind you...TF, Disturbia, Indiana Jones and even his stint in I, Robot was good.

Grow up kids.

[Nathan]

There's a specific thread for you if you don't have anything to complain about, you know?

[IamProdigy]

There's a specific thread for you if you don't have anything to complain about, you know?


That sentence alone makes me laugh.

And obviously I am complaining about something...complaining about whiny kids.

:grin:

[Anti-Moderator]

You should make a thread just for it.

[Franklin Richards]

People ***** way too much...

Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen doesn't sound that bad at all.

Optimus better keep the red flames, because it looks awesome.

And Shia 'The Beef' is a great actor mind you...TF, Disturbia, Indiana Jones and even his stint in I, Robot was good.

Grow up kids.

What a great actor!!!

8IXCK1EyP4s&hl=en

:whatever:
:down:



:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Nathan]

A thread to complain about complainers. :up:

[Anti-Moderator]

It could very well be....the greatest thread evers.

[Anti-Moderator]

What a great actor!!!

8IXCK1EyP4s&hl=en

:whatever:
:down:



:doom: :doom: :doom:


I think we have found a great drinking game to play while watching Transformers. :trans:

[brimstone_halo]

A thread to complain about complainers. :up:

Is this a thread about complainers or a thread for complainers?

[Anti-Moderator]

Is this a thread about complainers or a thread for complainers?



This is a thread for the people who complained about the first film and who plan on complaining about the sequel. If you liked the first film and feel guilty about it and want to complain about the sequel to make up for it....this thread is also for you. If you have never seen the original and want to complain about this one you are also welcome here.



All Bay haters are also allowed to post no more than three posts a day concerning your general hatred of him.

[Warhammer]

What a great actor!!!

8IXCK1EyP4s&hl=en

:whatever:
:down:



:doom: :doom: :doom:

Great comedian. I almost took you seriously. :up:

[Warhammer]

This is a thread for the people who complained about the first film and who plan on complaining about the sequel. If you liked the first film and feel guilty about it and want to complain about the sequel to make up for it....this thread is also for you. If you have never seen the original and want to complain about this one you are also welcome here.



All Bay haters are also allowed to post no more than three posts a dayconcerning your general hatred of him.

:lmao:

You fanboys kill me.

[Anti-Moderator]

:lmao:

You fanboys kill me.



No sillybuns..this is not the fanboy thread, this is for complainers...unless you are a fan of complaining, if that's the case you are more than welcome to post as long as it's complaints about Transformers.

[Warhammer]

No sillybuns..this is not the fanboy thread, this is for complainers...unless you are a fan of complaining, if that's the case you are more than welcome to post as long as it's complaints about Transformers.

:lmao:

Your logic fails. How much sense does it make for a person to complain about a sequel to a film that they have never seen? That's not valid criticism; it's laughable ignorance. I can't even believe you people actually make single lounge-like threads for the sole purpose of praising or complaining. What happened to just voicing an opinion in any of the other threads, without basically either kissing ass or moaning and groaning?

Hunter or any of the other Transformers mods ought to close both of the threads, and force y'all to co-exist and be mature when it comes down to opinions. If you can't do that, then pay the price of just getting banned and be immature on another forum.

[Anti-Moderator]

:lmao:

Your logic fails. How much sense does it make for a person to complain about a sequel to a film that they have never seen? That's not valid criticism; it's laughable ignorance. I can't even believe you people actually make single lounge-like threads for the sole purpose of praising or complaining. What happened to just voicing an opinion in any of the other threads, without basically either kissing ass or moaning and groaning?

Hunter or any of the other Transformers mods ought to close both of the threads, and force y'all to co-exist and be mature when it comes down to opinions. If you can't do that, then pay the price of just getting banned and be immature on another forum.



This post doesn't belong here....you should make a seperate thread discussion on whether or not my logic has or hasn't failed....come to think of it...yeah I guess we should make two, one for and one against my logic.

[Warhammer]

Naw, don't need to make a thread, and you still haven't answered my question. Just go ahead and report my post then. I'll be waiting for a moderator to send me a PM. If you can complain about nothing, then I can complain about something. This thread is for complaining, and if you can't accept my complaint of not only the haters in this thread, and the kiss asses in the other thread, then just report me.

:o :up:

[Anti-Moderator]

Naw, don't need to make a thread, and you still haven't answered my question. Just go ahead and report my post then. I'll be waiting for a moderator to send me a PM. If you can complain about nothing, then I can complain about something. This thread is for complaining, and if you can't accept my complaint of not only the haters in this thread, and the kiss asses in the other thread, then just report me.

:o :up:


I am not a Transformers movie sir, and this is a thread for complaints about the sequel to Transformers...so you can't complain about me. Anyways, shouldn't you be asking the threadstarter these questions since they opened a thread for negative and positive remarks about a movie just now starting production? Don't shoot the messenger...I'm just trying to help keep the peace. :trans:

[Hotwire]

Naw, don't need to make a thread, and you still haven't answered my question. Just go ahead and report my post then. I'll be waiting for a moderator to send me a PM. If you can complain about nothing, then I can complain about something. This thread is for complaining, and if you can't accept my complaint of not only the haters in this thread, and the kiss asses in the other thread, then just report me.

:o :up:
I'll answer your question. It makes just as much sense for someone to complain about a sequel to a movie the've never seen, as it does for someone to complain about any movie. The point isn't wether it makes sense that they complain or not, the point of the thread is for those who have problems with this movie, to voice them. Does that help?

[Jake Cassidy]

If someone doesn't like the first movie, why would they even care about the second one? It doesn't make any sense.

[Anti-Moderator]

If someone doesn't like the first movie, why would they even care about the second one? It doesn't make any sense.



It makes perfect sense Jakeypoo...everyone is excited about this movie, the haters can't wait to bash it, and the baykissers can't wait to hype it....






Thank you Mike Bay, what a wonderful time to be a Transformers fan. :trans:

[Jake Cassidy]

Don't ever call me Jakeypoo :cmad:

Actually, it doesn't make sense. If you don't like the first movie, don't see the second movie. Simple.

I think you need to get a life. :woot:

[Anti-Moderator]

Don't ever call me Jakeypoo :cmad:

Actually, it doesn't make sense. If you don't like the first movie, don't see the second movie. Simple.

I think you need to get a life. :woot:



I have a life....I know it's here somewhere.

[Jake Cassidy]

I have a life....I know it's here somewhere.


:hehe::hehe::hehe:

Mine's in my other pants. If I was wearing pants.


I'm so glad you can take a joke. There's a lot of people around here that would take that comment seriously.

[Anti-Moderator]

I'm so glad you can take a joke. There's a lot of people around here that would take that comment seriously.



You ain't kidding.......this entire thread is exhibit A.

[Hotwire]

It's funny. I started this thread to serve the same purpose as the last Negatron thread from the first movie. What I got instead was a group of people complaining about other people comlaining. And Jake, you are right I guess, but even though it makes little sense, they still come here, they still post. Just leave them be.

[oakzap425]

:lmao:

Your logic fails. How much sense does it make for a person to complain about a sequel to a film that they have never seen? That's not valid criticism; it's laughable ignorance. I can't even believe you people actually make single lounge-like threads for the sole purpose of praising or complaining. What happened to just voicing an opinion in any of the other threads, without basically either kissing ass or moaning and groaning?

Hunter or any of the other Transformers mods ought to close both of the threads, and force y'all to co-exist and be mature when it comes down to opinions. If you can't do that, then pay the price of just getting banned and be immature on another forum.

Your logic fails? How is it any different from people bashing a film prior to release of teaser, trailer, and actual film? Just bashing a movie based on the simple knowledge of knowing it will exist and knowing certain Hollywood directors/producers/film studio/effects studio is/are attached? :confused:

[Decoy Lad]

Your logic fails. How much sense does it make for a person to complain about a sequel to a film that they have never seen? That's not valid criticism; it's laughable ignorance.

It's about having a bad track record, if the same people behind the first trainwreck of a movie are back for the second, then that's one strike already against the movie. And any info released prior to the movie either real or fabricated by Bay's misinformation team is fair game as well.


Threads like this are usually put up as a firebreak to stop flame wars from breaking out in other threads, although the effectiveness of these types of threads is questionable.

If someone doesn't like the first movie, why would they even care about the second one? It doesn't make any sense.


I was a Transformer fan before the first movie came out and I'll be one after the second comes out, and being a fan I will still go and see the new movie, just by the off chance it may turn out to be good (which I doubt).

[Avangarde]

You guys are killing the Negatron thread :csad:

[Jake Cassidy]

It's funny. I started this thread to serve the same purpose as the last Negatron thread from the first movie. What I got instead was a group of people complaining about other people comlaining. And Jake, you are right I guess, but even though it makes little sense, they still come here, they still post. Just leave them be.

I was just curious. I don't really care what other people think anymore.

[Hotwire]

You guys are killing the Negatron thread :csad:
Actually, I think Warhammer is the one making trouble. He needs to understand that fanboys bashing a film with very little knowledge is simply what they do. It really doesn't need to make sense, it just is.

[Warhammer]

Actually, I think Warhammer is the one making trouble. He needs to understand that fanboys bashing a film with very little knowledge is simply what they do. It really doesn't need to make sense, it just is.

Fair enough. I was about to reply to three other posts, but the words in bold sum it up perfectly. I don't know what I was thinking trying to come in here trying to be logical. Enjoy not making sense, y'all. Once a teaser trailer hits, the TF spoiler boards will become a hellhole.

:o :up:

[Hotwire]

Fair enough. I was about to reply to three other posts, but the words in bold sum it up perfectly. I don't know what I was thinking trying to come in here trying to be logical. Enjoy not making sense, y'all. Once a teaser trailer hits, the TF spoiler boards will become a hellhole.

:o :up:
For the record, I would list myself as an Optimist Prime, but wanted to give the haers a place to voice their opinions.

[xwolverine2]

my main concern is the stupidity and childish goofyness of sector seven...
that was just awful.

[Nathan]

To be honest, it was just that one guy from sector seven that ruined it all. Otherwise the organization was ok. That guy with the moustache, for example, acted really professional.

[xwolverine2]

To be honest, it was just that one guy from sector seven that ruined it all. Otherwise organization was ok. That guy with the moustache, for example, acted really professional.

still they should be a bit more HARD....
they were like your average FBI/SWAT/military guys...

they've been studying alien tech for a looong time, you'd figure they'd have some cool offensive weapons and such...
they were pussies.:woot:

[Theweepeople]

What a great actor!!!

8IXCK1EyP4s&hl=en

:whatever:
:down:



:doom: :doom: :doom:

LOL. I actually like Shia but, his acting is definitely overated.

On the other hand I am sick of witnessing all the fights between the optimists and realists(not pessimists) in all the movie forums. I wish the mods would be more quick at banning these idiots who keep instigating fights. I've been harassed for expressing an opinion in every damn thread I've contributed to and I'm really weary of it now.

[Decoy Lad]

He needs to understand that fanboys bashing a film with very little knowledge is simply what they do. It really doesn't need to make sense, it just is.

There is "knowledge", the first movie, no clean slate here.:oldrazz:

[Terminator]

Transformers 1 kicked hard, HARD ass and you know it! and Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen. will kick hard ass to!

I just peed on your head..but that makes me like Bumblebee, so you love it. :hehe:

[tviceman]

I was an optimus poster during the filming/production of the first movie. It didn't quite live up to my expectations, but I still enjoyed the movie. However, if what I've recently read about 2 being ultra epic and involving Unicron, I'm officially signed up as a negatron. The last thing I want Transformers to become is a Pirates 2 & 3, X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, and Fantastic Four 2 fiasco.

If the makers try to do too much with this movie, Transformers 2 will flat out suck.

[Chris B]

The thing that worries me at this point is that we really haven't heard anything about any of the new characters being G1-inspired. I don't mind there being a few original TF's, but it would be nice to see classics like Prowl, Shockwave, Wheeljack, the Seekers, etc as well.

[Alex The Great]

I hope Moustache dude is back. He acted Proffesional. the other guy was just annoying.

[Hotwire]

We've gotten quite a few new details since the last post. Hard to believe it's only been 14 days. But, figured this one could use a bump.

[Dr Lee]

The only negative thing i can see ATM is the lack of anything official, When are they just going to come out and confirm whos who.

Or confirm ANYTHING AT ALL?

[DOG LIPS]

Here's some negative:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-9/transformers-sequel-filming-roundup--princeton-day-2-beetlejuice-in-transfomrers-2-165225/

[Terminator]

So Beetlejuice is in this movie? No doubt that scene is HILARIOUS. :whatever:

[tviceman]

As more and more reports come in, the plot ideas sound too epic for my comfort zone. There just wasn't nearly enough autobot and decepticon development/interaction to warrant them teaming up for the second film.

[Matt]

Lets not make threads with the sole purpose of insulting other users. Mmkay?

[Hunter Rider]

Same as the other one.

[Anubis Raptor]

Bashing a film thats about one year away?


YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN' ME

[Hotwire]

Bashing a film thats about one year away?


YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN' ME
Nope. Not kidding you. You should have seen it leading up to the first film. All I ask, in order to keep this thread from getting closed again, is to not bash anyone, only the film. If anyone has a problem with someone else's negative opinion, please refrain form harrassing them about it. Simply head over to the Optimist Prime: Reborn thread, and tout your own positive opinions.

PS. Thanks, Hunter & DOG LIPS

[Avangarde]

PS. Thanks, Hunter & DOG LIPS

Ditto :up:

[knowsbleed]

Ahh... a new Negatron thread. *takes off shoes and settles down*

[Avangarde]

Ahh... a new Negatron thread. *takes off shoes and settles down*

You'll be joining us then sir?

[Hotwire]

Ditto :up:
Hey, you can bash Transformers 2 all you want, but I draw the line at quoting Patrick Swayze from a chick-flick! You may however, quote Roadhouse all you want.

[Anti-Moderator]

I love the smell of negativity in the morning. :trans:

[tviceman]

And here I was thinking I was the only active poster who thought the news/info coming out for this movie was, in fact, NEGATIVE.

[Terminator]

That's sort of sad because after the first movie..this place should be full.

[Alex The Great]

Foolish Negatrons :trans:


Naw I Kid, I Kid.

But really. there's not even a teaser poster out yet and you people are already saying crap about it....

[Dr Lee]

^Thatsa the only negative thing i can see about TF:ROTF.... there is no news, no posters, no line up of TF characters.... nothing....

That would be the only thing i'd change if i got control of the movie

[tviceman]

Foolish Negatrons :trans:


Naw I Kid, I Kid.

But really. there's not even a teaser poster out yet and you people are already saying crap about it....

I don't like the direction that the writers and Bay are taking with the scale of this movie. They are trying to do too much with it. I'm afraid it's going to be as messy and empty as other attempts like Pirates 2 & 3, X-Men 3, and Spiderman 3.

All those movies looked and sounded amazing, but then when everyone went to see 'em most came out disappointed (and with good reason).

[WarBlade]

All those movies looked and sounded amazing

Really? :huh: The Pirates sequels might have surprised me, but Spider-Man 3 was already starting to look sketchy and X-Men 3 was clearly derailing from the moment Singer jumped ship.

[tviceman]

Really? :huh: The Pirates sequels might have surprised me, but Spider-Man 3 was already starting to look sketchy and X-Men 3 was clearly derailing from the moment Singer jumped ship.

I meant specifically by the trailers and the plot synopsis. They all, at least to me, looked great and sounded full of potential but severely missed the mark.

[CEREBRAL....]

I'm confused....so this thread was to make fun at posters complaining about the movie? Or is this thread suppose to be about posters who have a legimate grap about the movie..(which if any normal person who seen the first one should have plenty to come complain about)? And what makes this thread even more confusing...who said anything negative about a movie (part 2) with no actual new, or teaser? Yet?


ps:

I'm not even on here enough to even know what brought about the first "Negatron" thread....

[DOG LIPS]

I'm confused....so this thread was to make fun at posters complaining about the movie? Or is this thread suppose to be about posters who have a legimate grap about the movie..(which if any normal person who seen the first one should have plenty to come complain about)? And what makes this thread even more confusing...who said anything negative about a movie (part 2) with no actual new, or teaser? Yet?


ps:

I'm not even on here enough to even know what brought about the first "Negatron" thread....

The first move split the universe in half, with lovers and haters fighting in EVERY single thread. So Hunter made a Negatron thread and an Optimist thread to help point them in the right direction. This thread is where you can vent at things that you don't like, not to fight with other posters. There's not much news yet, but we felt this will be needed when it does. So basically, if a design/fact/tidbit comes out that pisses you off, come to this thread to talk about it.

Or go to the Optimist thread to praise the mighty Bay!

[Mikelus]

All those movies looked and sounded amazing, but then when everyone went to see 'em most came out disappointed (and with good reason).

Your opinion, not fact, BO numbers say those movies were very popular, I think we are in the minority but who cares, everyone is entitled to its opinion. Maybe TF:ROTF will be better, TF was so superficial and vulgar, it can't get any worse, can it?

[Hotwire]

The first move split the universe in half, with lovers and haters fighting in EVERY single thread. So Hunter made a Negatron thread and an Optimist thread to help point them in the right direction. This thread is where you can vent at things that you don't like, not to fight with other posters. There's not much news yet, but we felt this will be needed when it does. So basically, if a design/fact/tidbit comes out that pisses you off, come to this thread to talk about it.

Or go to the Optimist thread to praise the mighty Bay!
Well said, Senior Lips. That's exactly why I started them up again.

[Avangarde]

Your opinion, not fact, BO numbers say those movies were very popular, I think we are in the minority but who cares, everyone is entitled to its opinion. Maybe TF:ROTF will be better, TF was so superficial and vulgar, it can't get any worse, can it?


Hahaha *wipes tear*

[DOG LIPS]

Jinx.

[Jake Cassidy]

Your opinion, not fact, BO numbers say those movies were very popular, I think we are in the minority but who cares, everyone is entitled to its opinion. Maybe TF:ROTF will be better, TF was so superficial and vulgar, it can't get any worse, can it?

How was it vulgar? I'm not trying to start something. Just asking. :yay:

[knowsbleed]

You'll be joining us then sir?

You kidding me? Of course?

Where's my buddy CFlash?

[Avangarde]

Heh forgot about CFlash, someone should send him an email.


I miss Blind Fury :csad:

[millennium movies]

This guy clearly has no idea what TF is about:

Yes, I completely agree.
Bayformers is not a serious movie. The characters, the plot... it just doesn't look real.
I'm not saying that the movie was too much different from the original show. On the contrary, it should have been darker and more realistic.
Not a f**king kids movie... Hell! There's the animated series for them!
Transformers has to be mature.
The robots must act like robots, not a stupid rapper (Jazz) or Michael J Fox (Bumblebee).
They shouldn't allie with humans. The shouldn't talk and they don't need to have a mouth.
For Zod sake! They are computers. They can send a command in fractions of a second.
They are not evil or cute. A robot doesn't need to say macho-phrases like "I am Megatron!"
The entire production crew was wrong. From Spielberg to Bay.

Now I have to wait decades to see a remake. Do you have any idea what it means to have waited since I was a kid to see a Transformers movie and discover this it's just a print-money joke.
The problem is money.
No one makes movie just for the love of it anymore.
Now, it's only business.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15219595&postcount=20

[knowsbleed]

lol... what show or comic was he watching or reading when he was a kid? Because the Transformers I remember were living beings.

[tviceman]

Your opinion, not fact, BO numbers say those movies were very popular, I think we are in the minority but who cares, everyone is entitled to its opinion. Maybe TF:ROTF will be better, TF was so superficial and vulgar, it can't get any worse, can it?

You're right, money is king. At least the critics agree with me.

[Jake Cassidy]

Not all of them. Every review I read in Australian magazines and newspapers were positive.

[AnorexicBatman]

WARNING! JOKE POST AHEAD!


Considering you guys follow NEGETRON as in MEGATRON
Aren't you the bad guys here?

[Anti-Moderator]

I'm still waiting for you to make that joke post.....

[izimfan]

all movies have their faults in one way or another theres nothing that can be done about it

[Avangarde]

:cmad:

And the Lord said "let there be hate".

[Dr Lee]

what don't you like Avan?

[Avangarde]

Call me old school but I can think of so many better ways the first movie could have been done, thus leading to a better sequal :csad:

[DOG LIPS]

I just feel in the hands of Boom-boom Bay the movies will never be as epic as they could have been. Yes, I liked the first, and will probably like the second, but even today when I watch the first it just seems like a quick, loud, roller coaster ride instead of a movie. Boom boom aggghhh scream, money shot, boom, money shot, blur, too close, boom, masturbation joke, boom, one-liner, boom, end.

And I'm not even going to complain about the designs, cause I've learned to live with that.

[cosmicherosa]

Just needs to pan the camera back, focus less on Shia and his "nononononono's", and have the robots talk and be the focus. It's Transformers, not "Sam Witwicky, Featuring a guest appearance by the Transformers". That is why the first one sucked in a ceratin aspect.

[Avangarde]

The Autobot designs I learned to live with, I still think making the Cons look obviously evil is an insult to the views intelligence. They need to have some better character development for the robots themselves, they all have different personallities and this needs to be shown so we're not just watching a heap of robots beat the crap out of each other.

[Alex The Great]

The Autobot designs I learned to live with, I still think making the Cons look obviously evil is an insult to the views intelligence. They need to have some better character development for the robots themselves, they all have different personallities and this needs to be shown so we're not just watching a heap of robots beat the crap out of each other.
Barricade and Blackout looked kick ass

[Alex The Great]

I just feel in the hands of Boom-boom Bay the movies will never be as epic as they could have been. Yes, I liked the first, and will probably like the second, but even today when I watch the first it just seems like a quick, loud, roller coaster ride instead of a movie. Boom boom aggghhh scream, money shot, boom, money shot, blur, too close, boom, masturbation joke, boom, one-liner, boom, end.

And I'm not even going to complain about the designs, cause I've learned to live with that.
All I care about is Big ****ing robots fighting other big ****ing robots :up:

[DOG LIPS]

I agree, but I wish it wasn't from the view of a close up of their armpits.

[Alex The Great]

That's what makes it cool. You can see the immense detail and stuff....I like it. It's just the pussies who don't like it up close.

[knowsbleed]

I'm still watching my 86 movie. :up:

[Anti-Moderator]

I'm still watching my 86 movie. :up:

Yessir! :applaud

[Avangarde]

I'm still watching my 86 movie. :up:


I should expect nothing less :cmad::up:

[knowsbleed]

Hello? Any Negatrons left?

[Nathan]

There isn't really much I'm negative about. Other than I still dislike Starscream's design.

[mMark]

starscream is the most original design ever.

[Golgo-13]

..and still the worst looking imo, followed closely by IronHide.

[The Lizard]

Allow me to inject a little life back into the Negatron discussion by posting this little beauty...

http://i40.tinypic.com/e0hmc3.jpg

I'm sure this Devastator design will look somewhat better onscreen than the toy version, but wow-- what a stubby mess. Another example of how a little more G1 aesthetics could have helped.

[Raiden]

Just needs to pan the camera back, focus less on Shia and his "nononononono's", and have the robots talk and be the focus. It's Transformers, not "Sam Witwicky, Featuring a guest appearance by the Transformers". That is why the first one sucked in a ceratin aspect.

That's also the biggest beef I had with TF1. Although I like the movie overall, Bay focused way too much on the human characters and not enough on TFs except for Prime. Unfortunately, it looks like TF2 will be similar, and I think it has to do with the fact that Michael Bay was never a TF fan to begin with; he only got interested after Spielberg proposed this movie to him, and he saw a movie that could make him a sought-after director again (after disappointments like The Island).

[Bayless]

see... i am stoked for this movie cuz i loved the first one, what im NOT looking forward to... is the one thing everyone else is.
The Fallen. **** THAT
i dont want mythos, fallen angel, lost apostle, demon satan transformer. i want big ****ing robots kicking ass on screen. ITS GONNA BE SO ****ING DUMB!!! if he was like just an existance told in flashbacks, that known evil, thatd be fine. but from the looks of it hes gonna be there. THATS TOO MUCH!!! between Megatron, Devastator, AND this diety from Cybertron Hell... too ****ing much.

[TNC9852002]

..and still the worst looking imo, followed closely by IronHide.
Worst looking compared to what?

I like how they tried to give each Transformer a completely different look, even though one could argue that it was enough that they were just different vehicles and different colors. One of the issues I had with the cartoons was that it was kinda difficult telling some of the Transformers apart.

-TNC

[parabola]

The new Megatron design takes a lot of inspiration from Galvatron. For the head at least. And the vehicle mode seems like something i'd picture a more realistic Galvatron morphing into.

Is it possible that Megatron is referred to as Galvatron in the movie? Given the fact that:

a) Bay has said Megatron is NOT in the movie, technically would be correct if he was Galvatron.

b) We know Megatron is some how revived, possibly by The Fallen, not "hey Megs survived"

[Avangarde]

The new Megatron design takes a lot of inspiration from Galvatron. For the head at least. And the vehicle mode seems like something i'd picture a more realistic Galvatron morphing into.

Is it possible that Megatron is referred to as Galvatron in the movie? Given the fact that:

a) Bay has said Megatron is NOT in the movie, technically would be correct if he was Galvatron.

b) We know Megatron is some how revived, possibly by The Fallen, not "hey Megs survived"

I thought that as well but the Fast Action Battler Megatron card has been shown with "Megatron" printed on it.

[StylishHokie21]

My only complaint is Shia LaBeouf. He was annoying in the first one. I hope Bay focuses more on the Transformers this time around and less on LaBeouf's character.

[DOG LIPS]

Fish and birds! The bots all have fish lips and bird beak noses! Damn you Bay! Fish and birds! :cmad:

[knowsbleed]

I'm so beyond the aesthetics for this film. I'm now hoping that (Transformer) story and (Transformer) character development might be slightly better... which is a dim light to try and find... but I'll still hope.

[Avangarde]

Or another Bumblebee public urinating scene, yay.


:csad:

[Anti-Moderator]

I'm so beyond the aesthetics for this film. I'm now hoping that (Transformer) story and (Transformer) character development might be slightly better... which is a dim light to try and find... but I'll still hope.


I feel that the only way to enjoy this film, like the original, is to not expect (Transformer) character development or be judgmental in regards to story, (like plot holes and dialog) and just enjoy the pretty CGI and the big booms. That is really what this film is made for....unfortunately.

[Avangarde]

Or just go stoned.

[shigsy2003]

Or just go stoned.

Why what's in stoned?
:oldrazz:

[Avangarde]

What ever you want to be in it.

[Anti-Moderator]

Or just go stoned.

Exactly. That's how I got through the first one. :trans:

[thewhyteman]

Or just go stoned.

That makes every movie better.

Except Pathfinder. It did not help that movie at all.

[luca_frontino]

This guy clearly has no idea what TF is about

Wrong! I know them too well and, since I've grow up, I'd like to see a mature take on the Transformers because the concept of vehicles turning into robots is not something that would only amaze little kids.
What I find silly is pretending to believe that advanced artificial intelligences would look and act like us: especially if alien computers.

Now, let's try to follow my concept:

TFs are alien morphing robots, thus means they absolutely don't think, talk or see the universe the same way we do.
Robots are non living entities who don't care about power or conquest. But they could surely care for energy sources to maintain themself online.
Robots, especially aliens, could learn to talk like us, but they would use that form of communication only for interaction with humans and not between themself (it would be like us going on Cybertron and deciding to talk to ourself like them).
Robots would more logically use some kind of loudspeaker to replicate human voices and not some absurd mouths with dinosaur-like teeth.
Did you notice that all the Autobots have exactly five fingers on each of their hands? How childish is that?
Now, I think the only TFs designed without humanoid restrictions as of now are just Skorponok, Ravage and Demolishor.
Everything else look too much obviously man-made.

[thewhyteman]

Wrong! I know them too well and, since I've grow up, I'd like to see a mature take on the Transformers because the concept of vehicles turning into robots is not something that would only amaze little kids.
What I find silly is pretending to believe that advanced artificial intelligences would look and act like us: especially if alien computers.

Now, let's try to follow my concept:

TFs are alien morphing robots, thus means they absolutely don't think, talk or see the universe the same way we do.
Robots are non living entities who don't care about power or conquest. But they could surely care for energy sources to maintain themself online.
Robots, especially aliens, could learn to talk like us, but they would use that form of communication only for interaction with humans and not between themself (it would be like us going on Cybertron and deciding to talk to ourself like them).
Robots would more logically use some kind of loudspeaker to replicate human voices and not some absurd mouths with dinosaur-like teeth.
Did you notice that all the Autobots have exactly five fingers on each of their hands? How childish is that?
Now, I think the only TFs designed without humanoid restrictions as of now are just Skorponok, Ravage and Demolishor.
Everything else look too much obviously man-made.

Why would you want Optimus Prime to look like anything other then Optimus Prime. Transformers are Icons of the 80's. if you throw away everything away besides the concept of robot aliens transforming then its not really Transformers anymore.

Now I can understand your view point on how they would act being who they are. But if they did not have any human traits then how could any of us relate?
If you cant feel any empathy for a character then the story is a waist of time. Then again, how would you write a charchter that has no human traits? Thats further then any one of us can comprehend. No way that would translate well to the big screen.


You are right on the sharp teeth...those are just silly.

[luca_frontino]

You don't need a robot to look and act like us to feel empathy for him.
The Autobots could still fight and perish to defend people and I didn't say they wouldn't interact with us ever.
Just don't make them talk in english when they're alone: that's a ridiculous mistake and has been overdone to death in the past, like in Star Trek and Star Wars.
And to recognize Optimus Prime, you don't need him to have eyebrows, hands, lips etc.
If you see a red flat nose truck, that's him. Period.
Even if his robot mode moves on weels instead of legs and doesn't have a humanoid head, I would accept it anytime over his man-like G1 mode.
I don't complain the producers to have screwed up the original versions, but to have made most of them look like monsters.
Demolishor has been bashed for not looking humanoid when his design is the perfect example of how the robots should keep their mechanoid shape in alternate mode.

[Bayless]

Did you notice that all the Autobots have exactly five fingers on each of their hands? How childish is that?

no they didnt. only Optimus and IronHide did. BB and Ratchet had 4 fingers, Jazz had a hand of 4 claws.

[thewhyteman]

You don't need a robot to look and act like us to feel empathy for him.
The Autobots could still fight and perish to defend people and I didn't say they wouldn't interact with us ever.

Empathy is an understanding of another's emotions. How could you possibly understand the emotions of an alien race. On top of that they are robots. If they did not have human traits it would be highly unlikely that you could relate. Their would be no understanding. Interaction with humans or not, you would still have to tell the story from their view. I just don't see how you could write those characters with out personification.


Just don't make them talk in english when they're alone: that's a ridiculous mistake and has been overdone to death in the past, like in Star Trek and Star Wars.

I can understand this. It would make sense for them to speak thier native tounge. But the line where Megatron and Optimus meet where Megs says "Priiiime!" was pretty damn cool. Its harder to read emotion rather then just hear it the tone along with it.


And to recognize Optimus Prime, you don't need him to have eyebrows, hands, lips etc.
If you see a red flat nose truck, that's him. Period.
Even if his robot mode moves on weels instead of legs and doesn't have a humanoid head, I would accept it anytime over his man-like G1 mode.
I don't complain the producers to have screwed up the original versions, but to have made most of them look like monsters.

Its not about recognizing, its about being true to iconic images. Its kind of like watching a sequel that has a new actor playing a character. You say to yerself "who the eff is that? thats not Raiden..thats not Christopher Lambert! WTF man!" If you change everything then you mine as well not call it Transformers. It would be like another zombie movie, the basic concept is there but just a rip off of Transformers. Most people prefer to stay pretty faithful to original material.


Demolishor has been bashed for not looking humanoid when his design is the perfect example of how the robots should keep their mechanoid shape in alternate mode.

Devastator is pretty cool, but I still enjoy the g1 look. Again its all about iconic imagery.

[Grommers]

How can you bring up a "humanoid"argument?

Ever heard of evolution? Ever think that they would of evolved the same way we did with of course minor details? Ever think thats why they would have 5 fingers??

There is a reason that humans look the way they do, it allows for a great sense of mobility, to pick up objects, etc. So why wouldn't they look the same way considering there more advanced than us.

As for the sharp teeth same argument, you dont know what life is like on cybertron and it might be something they need to survive there or needed. Much like we don't use our small toe almost at all anymore, but its still there, or appendix for that matter.

Could of swore Barricade talked to Frenzy with an alien voice, and to be honest if I went to another country I'd do my research and try to use my language, especially if I was a vastly more intelligent being who needed help from the people from that country, they're trying to be a good role model for the people on earth, and if you speak another language it'd be hard to do.

As for Jazz..if everyone of the robots had the same personality they wouldn't be organic auto whatever that stupid scientist in the movie called it.

What I did have a problem in this movie was the lack of really good dialogue, they could of easily made the robots seem more intelligent,

[Superhero 101]

Was Megatron in the Trailer? a lot of people said that it was him who smacked into Optimus in the trailer. but it looks like Starscream to me

[Avangarde]

I think that was Megatrons hand pinning Sam down.

[rashad]

Okay cat is out of the bag. Megatron is back ---- but you will only get to see him from the long lost past. We go way back in time as this movie explains the mythology of the Primes. He is not a tank like everyone suggests, but an alien vehicle. But sadly he does not has much screen time.

Michael

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3838&page=1

[Avangarde]

"History of the Primes", I'd call that a positive thing.

[Raiden]

Wrong! I know them too well and, since I've grow up, I'd like to see a mature take on the Transformers because the concept of vehicles turning into robots is not something that would only amaze little kids.
What I find silly is pretending to believe that advanced artificial intelligences would look and act like us: especially if alien computers.

Now, let's try to follow my concept:

TFs are alien morphing robots, thus means they absolutely don't think, talk or see the universe the same way we do.
Robots are non living entities who don't care about power or conquest. But they could surely care for energy sources to maintain themself online.
Robots, especially aliens, could learn to talk like us, but they would use that form of communication only for interaction with humans and not between themself (it would be like us going on Cybertron and deciding to talk to ourself like them).
Robots would more logically use some kind of loudspeaker to replicate human voices and not some absurd mouths with dinosaur-like teeth.
Did you notice that all the Autobots have exactly five fingers on each of their hands? How childish is that?
Now, I think the only TFs designed without humanoid restrictions as of now are just Skorponok, Ravage and Demolishor.
Everything else look too much obviously man-made.

Why should Transformers look like anything but Transformers, anyway? If they use your guideline, they may as call it something else. This makes no sense.

[Superhero 101]

does megatron have a cannon attached to his arm?

[Anubis Raptor]

does megatron have a cannon attached to his arm?


In the film? Yes.

[Superhero 101]

yay!!!

[Anubis Raptor]

yay!!!


If you want, you can go over to knowsbleed's transformers pictures (No discussion) thread and take a peek. It's the very last post in there by me.

Glad to help:yay:

[FCEEVIPER]

What the hell is a Negatron?

[Alex The Great]

What the hell is a Negatron?
****tards :hehe:

Kidding, They're just silly people who demand perfection even though it's staring them right in the face :o

[FCEEVIPER]

:woot:

[Anubis Raptor]

****tards :hehe:

Kidding, They're just silly people who deamnd perfection even though it's staring them right in the face :o

Good answer:hehe:

[gkokujin]

does megatron have a cannon attached to his arm?

In the film? Yes.

no. his arm IS a cannon.

no one has external weapons in this movie. that would be too much like the source material.

[knowsbleed]

****tards :hehe:

Kidding, They're just silly people who demand perfection even though it's staring them right in the face :o

Your version of perfection screams mediocrity. Pretty visuals does not equal perfection.

[Jake Cassidy]

****tards :hehe:

Kidding, They're just silly people who demand perfection even though it's staring them right in the face :o

I was gonna say that they are a bunch of pathetic, whiney losers with nothing better to do with their lives other than complaining about a ****IN' MOVIE!!!!! :oldrazz:

I mean that in the nicest possible way, of course. :woot:

Don't get mad guys. I'm just ****in' with ya. :yay:

[Jake Cassidy]

Your version of perfection screams mediocrity. Pretty visuals does not equal perfection.

There is no such thing as perfection. Nothing is perfect. Nothing will ever be perfect. Life would be ****in' boring. :woot:

[HHHDan]

Orci and Kurtzman Talk Transformers 2
Source:SCI FI Wire (http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/orci-kurtzman-reveal-tran.php)
March 31, 2009

The theme started coming out of Sam leaving home, now. It's two years later, he's going to college. ... What are the responsibilities and the cutting off that goes on when you leave home? And that mirrors the fact the Transformers themselves are away from home. And in a new home. And what are your responsibilities as you kind of step out into the world on your own without your support system?


... Damn it!... Another stupid movie mainly about stupid humans... It's called Transformers: Make it about the robots, not the puny human that follows them like a lap dog.

[uncwbradteacher]

Let me get this straight. Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Bumblebee, Old Man Willow Jetfire, 2 retards, and 3 midgit girls against.........Megatron, Starscream, Fallen, Soundwave, Ravage, Devastator (six huge robots), The Audi, and who knows who else........Oh I forgot, in Bay's world, humans with hand held guns can kill three times the number of Decepticons than Autobots. Never mind, it is the Decepticons who are outnumbered. Way to go Bay.

[uncwbradteacher]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex The Great
****tards
Kidding, They're just silly people who demand perfection even though it's staring them right in the face
Please god do not let this guy ever have anything to do with any project that I care about. For reasons to numerous to get into, I did not get to see Transformers in the theater and just got around to watching it about a month ago. I was a transformers junkie as a kid. I loved it until the cartoons with Galvatron. Those were just terrible. especially when he goes to the planet psycologist to fix his anger issues. But I stray.
The movie was such a dissapointment that it was depressing. Now dont get me wrong, when the Autobots and the Decepticons transformed.....I was awed. It was beautiful. The 2 second fight between Prime and Bonecrusher was perfection, and The Helicopter, cant remember his name, was breathtaking. However, these points that I found perfection were merely 4 minutes of glory in 2 hours of mundane asenine bull**it.
From the getgo I thought i was in for a huge treat. I was spoiler free and had read no reviews. It was great until....when bumblebee faught the cop, i could not see what was going on. I could not tell who was doing what and then all of a sudden it is over with no explanation of what happened to the cop or how it ended. I had hope after the autobots arrived. it was an awsome scene and I thought they looked great especially ironhide. but then BAM. It became a mess. I remember hitting pause and thinking, this is stupid. That jack*** military guy, the cop whose overacted so much that Al Pacino would be proud. All of these stupid human side stories that did nothing but take away from the movie. bumblebee peeing oil, the hide and seek scene in the yard. ....... and this stuff was the best of the worst.
Now to the revolting.
Worst of the worst
3. Humans killing Deceptincons. WHAT??????
2. Jazz getting killed and Prime just like "What Ever, we have Spike now."
And the Most horrible of all.
1. Megatron made Prime look like a weak schoolgirl. Prime has always been the bad of the bada**es. And he looked pitiful and pathetic.
Now I am not spoiler free from ROTF. Why? So i can see the dissapointment comming instead of it blindsiding me. And this time i am ready. ready for a geriatric old broken down hasbeen to replace jetfire who was my favorite toy and comic character. For 2 retarded siamese twins that were joined at the jaw before speparated, 3 chickbots the size of a human, the story once again centered people and not the title characters, probably 3 seconds of screen time for devestator who i think looks great (the movie version, not the toy which looks like an infant took 5 tonka trucks broke off some pieces, and superglued them together) The reason is Bay seems to cut short the really good stuff and spend all of his time on garbage. I am ready for megatron with the baby arm to be bada** for about a minute. I am ready for Prime to die. I am ready for non funny slap stick comedy from the 2 retards. I am ready for meaningful dialogue between starscream and megatron.....wait, that wont happen. I am ready for fight scenes to be capily filmed so that we cant see whats going on. I am ready for no no no no no. I am ready to be disapointed. Maybe this time around with my expectations set so low, maybe, just maybe, I will enjoy the experience. We shall see.

[WarBlade]

Let me get this straight. Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Bumblebee, Old Man Willow Jetfire, 2 retards, and 3 midgit girls against.........Megatron, Starscream, Fallen, Soundwave, Ravage, Devastator (six huge robots), The Audi, and who knows who else........Oh I forgot, in Bay's world, humans with hand held guns can kill three times the number of Decepticons than Autobots. Never mind, it is the Decepticons who are outnumbered. Way to go Bay.

You're assuming that Decepticons are all one big co-operative team who work well together and have no aspirations involving back-stabbing their leaders? The Decepticons may have the numbers, but I'm not going to count on them sticking to the same goals.

[luca_frontino]

How come Lego hasn't sued yet Hasbro and Paramount for ripping off their Bionicle?

[Mr. Earle]

Let me get this straight. Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Bumblebee, Old Man Willow Jetfire, 2 retards, and 3 midgit girls against.........Megatron, Starscream, Fallen, Soundwave, Ravage, Devastator (six huge robots), The Audi, and who knows who else........Oh I forgot, in Bay's world, humans with hand held guns can kill three times the number of Decepticons than Autobots. Never mind, it is the Decepticons who are outnumbered. Way to go Bay.TEOL :woot:

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

... Damn it!... Another stupid movie mainly about stupid humans... It's called Transformers: Make it about the robots, not the puny human that follows them like a lap dog.

Transformers cost a million dollars for every minute they're onscreen. Humans don't. It's the sad reality of a movie like this.

[uncwbradteacher]

Jolt looks like a piece of s**t. I mean he really looks like a cluster *****. Why in the world would they look at that piece of garbage and think, kids will loooooooove this. And whats up with Megs gimp arm. Is it so Prime can acutally beat him. I can beat mike tyson in his prime (no pun intended) if you take away his arms and put crawfish legs on him. Poor megs.

[Mr. Earle]

Jolt looks like a piece of s**t. I mean he really looks like a cluster *****. Why in the world would they look at that piece of garbage and think, kids will loooooooove this. And whats up with Megs gimp arm. Is it so Prime can acutally beat him. I can beat mike tyson in his prime (no pun intended) if you take away his arms and put crawfish legs on him. Poor megs.1) welcome to a few years ago.
2) I think that both his hands are like that and only in some scenes does his right arm become that huge claw-cannon thing. Just like Bumblebee's forearm becomes a cannon.

[Marvin]

Transformers cost a million dollars for every minute they're onscreen. Humans don't. It's the sad reality of a movie like this.

the sad reality?

try naming 7 huge movies (live action or not), that didn't have humans in and around the foreground of the story in the last ten or so years?

(psst it's called, audience relatability)

hey maybe I'm wrong, there could be plenty.

[uncwbradteacher]

So in the novel, Ratchet combines prime and jetbeard together in a matter of seconds but he cant..........put a voice box in bee? He gave prime his parts but cant give bee his voicebox. Weak.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

So in the novel, Ratchet combines prime and jetbeard together in a matter of seconds but he cant..........put a voice box in bee? He gave prime his parts but cant give bee his voicebox. Weak.

I'm not jumping through hoops to explain things, but I guess one could argue he was only combining existing parts, and that BB would need an entirely new voicebox. But then one could argue that Ratchet ought to be able to build one, I guess.

[Alex The Great]

I :heart: you people, with a side dish of hate :yay:

[Anti-Moderator]

How come Lego hasn't sued yet Hasbro and Paramount for ripping off their Bionicle?


why...whatever do you mean??

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1795/120041502700.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9998/124248541400.jpg
:trans:

[shigsy2003]

So in the novel, Ratchet combines prime and jetbeard together in a matter of seconds but he cant..........put a voice box in bee? He gave prime his parts but cant give bee his voicebox. Weak.

I am happy to sidestep that plot hole due tothe fact that BB without a voice is so much better. I loved him in the first movie and when he uttered his first words at the end I was sorely disappointed. It dosn't make a whole lot of sense but I am glad it seems like he has lost his voice again for ROTF.