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Carcharodon
07-01-2007, 10:55 PM
I'm try-sexual.
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 10:56 PM
No, I don't wanna get a naked pic of someone in my PM on here again.:o
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 10:57 PM
What?:confused:
its from a comercial.
You know what I hate about porn, is the fact that all the girls always want to look directly into the camera, that creeps me out.
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:05 PM
That's why I don't watch porn with women unless a guy is in it with them.
even with guys, the chick could be getting drilled and she'll still be looking right into the camera.
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:09 PM
I don't pay attention to the chick
next time you watch some, pay attention to her for like a second.
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:14 PM
I know that's what the do, that's how they keep fans
Abaddon
07-01-2007, 11:17 PM
this thread got lame
well its creepy.
Like they're being interigated at Dickprison.
what was the last porn you guys watched?
Mine was Gangbang 45
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:24 PM
I tend to avoid pan/bi guys
Great pic Dope Nose
ya, there usually just sexual
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:25 PM
ya, there usually just sexual
Yeah, like sometimes they can be fun, but I prefer gay guys
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:26 PM
what was the last porn you guys watched?
Mine was Gangbang 45
Corbin Fisher "strait:whatever: " college guys or Sean Cody... those arn't the name of the porns.. just the company that makes em.. but there all just 20 something college looking guys messin with eachother
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:27 PM
Sean Cody has good quality though. I actually just downloaded some last night :p
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah, like sometimes they can be fun, but I prefer gay guys
well they are fun in that i prefer "strait" acting guys.. and bi-guys tend to be that way...
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:28 PM
well they are fun in that i prefer "strait" acting guys.. and bi-guys tend to be that way...
Eh, yeah. I recently had a bad falling out with a bi friend with benefits too. So that also might add to why I avoid them
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:31 PM
Sean Cody has good quality though. I actually just downloaded some last night :p
so does corbin fisher... best 2 gay porn sites imo..
but i get all mine free... i use bittorrent and go to gay-torrents that should be the site, if not type it into google and you should find it. but all corbin fischers and sean cody stuff is pretty much HD quality... and they always have new stuff on the front page of the torrent part of the site..
sean cody stuff starts with SC in file names and Corbin fisher ACM or somethin like that i highly recomend bittorrent+that site
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:31 PM
Eh, yeah. I recently had a bad falling out with a bi friend with benefits too. So that also might add to why I avoid them
well thats just it. they never end well..
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:32 PM
^You might want to take the link off it goes to a porn site so you don't get in trouble.
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:32 PM
for sex only
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:33 PM
well thats just it. they never end well..
Bi guys or friends with benefits?
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:33 PM
^You might want to take the link off it goes to a porn site so you don't get in trouble.
thanks, and fixed...
you got the site down though right?
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Bi guys or friends with benefits?
bi-guys... my 2 best friends actually started off as friends with benefits
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:35 PM
Yeah
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:36 PM
Yeah
good, trust me.. ull thank me, haha
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:36 PM
bi-guys... my 2 best friends actually started off as friends with benefits
Yeah, I just asked cuz my friends told me friends with benefits don't work because you end up falling for each other, which isn't always true. With me, the guy was just a liar.
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:39 PM
Yeah, I just asked cuz my friends told me friends with benefits don't work because you end up falling for each other, which isn't always true. With me, the guy was just a liar.
well i wont lie, i fell for both of them pretty hard... but they just wanted to be friends...and it hurt pretty bad, and i just had to learn to get over it.. one of us still mess around everyonce in a while.... but were very close, its hard to describe... i think were beyond friends and family... kindred spirits maybe.. but in love with eachother.. no
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:41 PM
^Yeah, I never had that with anyone
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:42 PM
^Yeah, I never had that with anyone
its really hard to explain... ive never felt closer to anyone in my life.. yet so far at the same time.
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:43 PM
lol What a line :p
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:46 PM
lol What a line :p
lol, hey... sometimes i come up with a good one everyonce in a while... still true none the less :)
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:51 PM
^I'm sure it is.
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:53 PM
^I'm sure it is.
ya, sad thing is.. i have that with him.. but never been in a real relationship :csad:
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:55 PM
Never been in a real relationship here either
spideyboy_1111
07-01-2007, 11:57 PM
where do you live? cuz if it's LA haha then i know how ya feel
Majik1387
07-01-2007, 11:58 PM
No, I'm in one of the gayest cities of the US though. Orlando
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:01 AM
No, I'm in one of the gayest cities of the US though. Orlando
ah, didnt know orlando was a big gay city.. thought florida's was miami...
but ya.. in LA peeps are bit stuck up and flakey.. not sure how it is out there though.. but people in LA seem to care more about a hot good time, or a hot guy to show off rather then who the person is inside
No, I'm in one of the gayest cities of the US though. Orlando
Ghey. :heart:
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:04 AM
ah, didnt know orlando was a big gay city.. thought florida's was miami...
but ya.. in LA peeps are bit stuck up and flakey.. not sure how it is out there though.. but people in LA seem to care more about a hot good time, or a hot guy to show off rather then who the person is inside
Down here it's all the club guys, also stuck up and flakey. It's a city of bottoms and I'm serious.
It's also full of ugly old men who want to get laid. They tend to be the tops. And the sugar daddies. Also it's apparently a good place to meet up with people if you want to get into gay porn.
Ghey. :heart:
:csad:
Down here it's all the club guys, also stuck up and flakey. It's a city of bottoms and I'm serious.
It's also full of ugly old men who want to get laid. They tend to be the tops. And the sugar daddies. Also it's apparently a good place to meet up with people if you want to get into gay porn.
And I thought New York was bad. :csad::heart:
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:08 AM
And I thought New York was bad. :csad::heart:
I dont even wanna know about up there.
That's one of the reasons when I leave Florida, I'm heading to L.A.
I dont even wanna know about up there.
That's one of the reasons when I leave Florida, I'm heading to L.A.
Hahahaha. That made me laugh. I think it's all the same.
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Well I have more contacts and friends in L.A. than in NY
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:25 AM
LA is pretty fun, i wont lie to that, but there still is alot of *******s
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:30 AM
^That's just about everywhere though
Spade
07-02-2007, 12:31 AM
It's funny how positive these threads always become. Goes to show how us Hypesters put the Community in Community Forum. :up:
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:31 AM
It's funny how positive these threads always become. Goes to show how us Hypesters put the Community in Community Forum. :up:
i think it's our generation.. were alot more tolerating...
I think if Jason were here he'd be angry that we were complaining. Poor boy gets no love. :o:p
:(
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:33 AM
we should have a gay thread... since lightening strikes has a minority thread (though it's obviously aimed more torwards african americans)
I was thinking about it.. but I'm afraid it might get locked due to all those other parody threads of Lightnings.
I'd ask Dew first.
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:35 AM
I think if Jason were here he'd be angry that we were complaining. Poor boy gets no love. :o:p
:(
Where is that drama queen?
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:36 AM
we should have a gay thread... since lightening strikes has a minority thread (though it's obviously aimed more torwards african americans)
I agree. I was thinking about it all this time posting in here
Where is that drama queen?
He hasn't been on since he started working. But I mentioned the Hype the other day and he got all pissy. Meaning he's in another one of his "I hate Hype" moods.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:39 AM
He hasn't been on since he started working. But I mentioned the Hype the other day and he got all pissy. Meaning he's in another one of his "I hate Hype" moods.
*flamers*:whatever: lol... i hate drama queens
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:39 AM
Sometimes I don't feel like putting up with him. He always seems so negative
Sometimes I don't feel like putting up with him.
I've known him for so long. Sometimes I just have no choice but to deal with it.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:41 AM
I agree. I was thinking about it all this time posting in here
it just annoys me.. (not trying to be racist) but african american's are pretty much far from being a minority these days... in fact... are the largest group of "minorities" yet they seem complain the most... you don't really see mexicans or asians or middle eastern or indian doing that... they just kinda shrug it off and just realise some people are a*holes
Halcohol
07-02-2007, 12:42 AM
we should have a gay thread... since lightening strikes has a minority thread (though it's obviously aimed more torwards african americans)
I always thought this (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=257771)thread was the designated gay lounge :p ;)
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:43 AM
I always thought this (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=257771)thread was the designated gay lounge :p ;)
lol, meh i dont go in there
I always thought this (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=257771)thread was the designated gay lounge :p ;)
Bwahahahahahaha.
I'm laughing 'cause it's true. :csad:
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:48 AM
lol, we need an openly gay thread though.
Ask Dew, I say.
I'm all for it.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:50 AM
me too, i'd love to find out how many gay guys are on the hype
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:51 AM
we should have a poll ....
Gay
Lesbian
Bi
Curious
strait people can't vote so there will be no strait option
LOL.
It'd have to be private, I think.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:56 AM
well ya, theres prob alot of closeted people on here... i dont mind it being private
So, I've been waiting for this confirmation e-mail for a long while now. :o
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 12:56 AM
I hate private polls. So lame
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 12:57 AM
I hate private polls. So lame
ya, but you know how closeted people are.... even afraid a screen name will find them out...
thats what i hate about guys even on gay websites... im like please... if anyone goes to that site that means there gay.. why you worried?
ya, but you know how closeted people are.... even afraid a screen name will find them out...
thats what i hate about guys even on gay websites... im like please... if anyone goes to that site that means there gay.. why you worried?
LOL. :csad:
True.
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:00 AM
ya, but you know how closeted people are.... even afraid a screen name will find them out...
Yeah, true
thats what i hate about guys even on gay websites... im like please... if anyone goes to that site that means there gay.. why you worried?
I get pissed when guys go on those sites and basically say they're not looking for anyone "gay acting"
:whatever:
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:07 AM
Yeah, true
I get pissed when guys go on those sites and basically say they're not looking for anyone "gay acting"
:whatever:
they mean "strait acting"... which hell i even use that term, i had a queenie GLSA head at my college say "why do they even have to act" and i just wanted to smack him... im like it's not them "acting" it's just said in a term of how one persons personality is.. just means if you met them on the street, you wouldnt know instantly if they were gay or not... doesn't mean there faking who they are...
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:13 AM
they mean "strait acting"... which hell i even use that term, i had a queenie GLSA head at my college say "why do they even have to act" and i just wanted to smack him... im like it's not them "acting" it's just said in a term of how one persons personality is.. just means if you met them on the street, you wouldnt know instantly if they were gay or not... doesn't mean there faking who they are...
I honestly don't care how they are regarding gay/straight acting or feminine/masculine.
JustABill
07-02-2007, 01:14 AM
Post.
(Just was getting all the known gays that post in community in one thread. :D)
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:19 AM
I honestly don't care how they are regarding gay/straight acting or feminine/masculine.
well to be honest, ive never been attracted to feminine and queenie guys...
i always say... "i like guys for a reason, if i wanted a girl, i'd date one"
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:20 AM
well to be honest, ive never been attracted to feminine and queenie guys...
i always say... "i like guys for a reason, if i wanted a girl, i'd date one"
Me too, but I'm open to giving them a chance. I don't just write them off or dismiss them.
JustABill
07-02-2007, 01:26 AM
As do I.
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:30 AM
You guys are losers though. :o
But we're not the single ones. :o
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:33 AM
Single guys have more fun sex :o
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:42 AM
You're the liar. :o
JustABill
07-02-2007, 01:45 AM
You are telling me....sex with this...isn't fun?
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9827/chris4bn4.jpg
BLASPHEMY. :o
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:46 AM
^Prrfft.
I had better. :o
JustABill
07-02-2007, 01:49 AM
^Prrfft.
I had better. :o
:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:50 AM
I do. :(
i do too.. big turn off... just as bad as smoking
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:50 AM
You are telling me....sex with this...isn't fun?
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9827/chris4bn4.jpg
BLASPHEMY. :o
when are you guys visiting me in LA btw? lol
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:51 AM
^Prrfft.
I had better. :o
ya.. but he was gone when you woke up in the morning... lol
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:51 AM
I don't go with smokers
There's nothing they can do to hide their nasty stank breath
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:52 AM
:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
:whatever: :cwink: :oldrazz:
He's a cutie though
ya.. but he was gone when you woke up in the morning... lol
lol I don't do one night stands. I still have yet to have one.
I'm more into afternoon delights. ;)
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:53 AM
I don't go with smokers
There's nothing they can do to hide their nasty stank breath
nothin worse then kissing a smoker
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:54 AM
^Exactly
I don't do smoker either.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:57 AM
:whatever: :cwink: :oldrazz:
He's a cutie though
lol I don't do one night stands. I still have yet to have one.
I'm more into afternoon delights. ;)
haha
ya.. so i kinda had a fun with these 2 weds night
me's a bad boy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/Boys/n46901643_30406746_2400.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/Boys/n46900051_30293070_9960.jpg
lol and no the girl wasnt included... and the 2 boys are dating lol
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 01:58 AM
Lucky you
I hate you
:o
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 01:58 AM
Lucky you
I hate you
:o
lol so you think there cute too?
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 02:02 AM
The guy in the top pic is. The guy in the bottom pic is too small for me to know for sure
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v77/205/96/808710704/n808710704_447036_5301.jpg
My bf.
JustABill
07-02-2007, 02:04 AM
when are you guys visiting me in LA btw? lol
When I win a million kajillion dollars and have money to spend like ''WHAT?!" :o
JustABill
07-02-2007, 02:04 AM
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v77/205/96/808710704/n808710704_447036_5301.jpg
My bf.
Is this the first time I'm seeing him? I don't know, either way...he's a cutie. :o
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 02:05 AM
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v77/205/96/808710704/n808710704_447036_5301.jpg
My bf.
Awe, another cutie.
Hey, you have the demo music from the Little Mermaid for Broadway right?
Is this the first time I'm seeing him? I don't know, either way...he's a cutie. :o
I don't remember.. :huh:
Awe, another cutie.
Hey, you have the demo music from the Little Mermaid for Broadway right?
Yes, I do.
(this should totally be renamed the Gay thread)
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:08 AM
The guy in the top pic is. The guy in the bottom pic is too small for me to know for sure
ya... stupid small pic he hacked to that size and put on facebook
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:09 AM
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v77/205/96/808710704/n808710704_447036_5301.jpg
My bf.
he's cute, not my type, but cute
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:10 AM
When I win a million kajillion dollars and have money to spend like ''WHAT?!" :o
but your planning to then right? lol:cwink:
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:10 AM
Yes, I do.
(this should totally be renamed the Gay thread)
the little mermaid is going on broadway?
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 02:15 AM
Yes, I do.
(this should totally be renamed the Gay thread)
Do you happen to remember where you got it? Or do you know if you could send me a couple of songs?
Fried Gold
07-02-2007, 02:19 AM
Okay here is an actually picture from a anti-gay protest.
http://sperone.free.fr/images/extraz/PICS17/gaycomputer.jpgThat has to be the greatest picture I've ever seen
Do you happen to remember where you got it? Or do you know if you could send me a couple of songs?
Let Me see.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6PW38B92
That should work.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:23 AM
ok.. so this is probably gonna make me seem like a whore... (i swear im not..) but because im bored... im gonna show you some of the guys im either interested in... or ummm have messed with haha
heres my 2 best friends... that started off as FWB...
this is justice, my kindred spirit thing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/381673019_l.jpg (he's with his sis in that pic)
heres my other best friend, nick
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/76744649_l.jpg
this is my friend mikey (we've yet to mess around but we hint at it.. lol) he lives in PA though, and believe it or not he's actually 30... and yes i've met him before lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/805562832_l.jpg
this is garret, he goes to UCLA, he works in a lab and does chemistry stuff.. we've talked about being "Friends" possibly leaving the door open for dating
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/n669355103_49034_3067.jpg
this is justin, hes cute, but a flake, plus my names justin too.. so thats kinda hot and wierd at the same time
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/3216644.jpg
and this is ross.. he wants to go on a date when i get back to LA friday... its a bad pic of him though
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/ross.jpg
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:39 AM
Yeah, this fall.
ok.. so they have a huge gap between beauty and the beast and lion king.. and a huge gap between lion king and now.... and this year they put both mary poppins and the little mermaid on broadway? damn
Beauty And The Beast is closing. :(
And lets not forget Tarzan.. or, maybe we should.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:41 AM
Whore. :cmad: :p
hey now.. ive only had sex with 2 of them
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:41 AM
Beauty And The Beast is closing. :(
And lets not forget Tarzan.. or, maybe we should.
beauty and the beast has been around forever though...
tarzan is coming too?
beauty and the beast has been around forever though...
tarzan is coming too?
Tarzan came the same time Marry Poppins did. It wasn't pretty.
That sounds wrong.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:43 AM
Nick makes me swoon. :o
ooo sir he is completely adorable... i feel like i f*d up in that department... i think i could have swayed him into the relationship realm... but i messed it up.. hes still one of my best friends though
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:44 AM
Tarzan came the same time Marry Poppins did. It wasn't pretty.
That sounds wrong.
tarzan doesnt seem like it would be pretty...
im interested to see how little mermaid looks... i saw a play on it at MGM when i was a kid, but would love to see it stepped up like 100 times that... not sure how though
ooo sir he is completely adorable... i feel like i f*d up in that department... i think i could have swayed him into the relationship realm... but i messed it up.. hes still one of my best friends though
:(
That's unfortunate. Yet, fortunate... :huh:
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:45 AM
:(
That's unfortunate. Yet, fortunate... :huh:
i dunno.. hes got a bf now.. his first.. lol i could post more pics of nick if u'd like lol
Well, I do have insomnia, so go ahead. :O
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:49 AM
haha ok.. picks of tipsy nick at his b-day then it is
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/Nicksad.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/nickandpatrick.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/nickdork.jpg
tipsy me with tipsy nick :) cute pic though, even though i look like crap
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/nickandjustin.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/nickandhisgirls.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/nick1.jpg
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 02:52 AM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6PW38B92
That should work.
Thank ya much :D
ok.. so this is probably gonna make me seem like a whore... (i swear im not..) but because im bored... im gonna show you some of the guys im either interested in... or ummm have messed with haha
heres my 2 best friends... that started off as FWB...
this is justice, my kindred spirit thing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/381673019_l.jpg (he's with his sis in that pic)
heres my other best friend, nick
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/76744649_l.jpg
this is my friend mikey (we've yet to mess around but we hint at it.. lol) he lives in PA though, and believe it or not he's actually 30... and yes i've met him before lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/805562832_l.jpg
this is garret, he goes to UCLA, he works in a lab and does chemistry stuff.. we've talked about being "Friends" possibly leaving the door open for dating
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/n669355103_49034_3067.jpg
this is justin, hes cute, but a flake, plus my names justin too.. so thats kinda hot and wierd at the same time
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/3216644.jpg
and this is ross.. he wants to go on a date when i get back to LA friday... its a bad pic of him though
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/ross.jpg
Cute guys, and don't worry about being a whore, I'm a hooker.
i dunno.. hes got a bf now.. his first.. lol i could post more pics of nick if u'd like lol
Well, I do have insomnia, so go ahead.
PERV!
haha ok.. picks of tipsy nick at his b-day then it is
tipsy me with tipsy nick :) cute pic though, even though i look like crap
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/nickandjustin.jpg
Aw. :heart:
Thank ya much :D
Cute guys, and don't worry about being a whore, I'm a hooker.
And a damn good one. Worth every penny. :heart:
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 02:54 AM
And a damn good one. Worth every penny. :heart:
Yep.;)
I'm also a pimp according to my friends because I set them up if I think they'd mesh together.
Yep.;)
I'm also a pimp according to my friends because I set them up if I think they'd mesh together.
Do you slap your own self on the corner? :csad:
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 02:56 AM
No, I'm not into self-sadomasochism
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:56 AM
and heres the non drunk pics to make you swoon
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/140202030_l.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/l_ddaceaabaa31d3c1c7f0ce2f9a05cb0f.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/l_9950067ca58de52204602789181fde4a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/l_69dcd2a072bb2b6cebea6369ae6337b6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/l_8dc9fee1c0c6151fd97439cba107b5f1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/143403800_l.jpg
the last pic makes him look alot like connor on angel.. to me lol
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:57 AM
Thank ya much :D
Cute guys, and don't worry about being a whore, I'm a hooker.
PERV!
least you get money for it
Majik1387
07-02-2007, 02:57 AM
He looks better not drunk/tipsy
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:58 AM
Aw. :heart:
ya if only i didn't look high and gross at the same time...
heres what i look like on a good day
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/me-faux.jpg
Go Spidey! Go! What is he, though.. a stuffed toy or something?
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 02:59 AM
He looks better not drunk/tipsy
dont we all:csad:
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:00 AM
=swoons=
lol you should see him naked ;)
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:00 AM
Go Spidey! Go! What is he, though.. a stuffed toy or something?
ya, im hot on a good day... lol too bad thats rare.. i need to get my ass back to the gym
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:03 AM
I look like a whore.
hey.. some whores look pretty hot
Or, just straight up whore. Like Magik.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:06 AM
its so cute though, nick's favorite movie is an american tale... and i think he kinda looks like fivel... haha..
we also play X-men legends whenever we can make time...
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v55/74/27/34604493/n34604493_30414894_5744.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v45/78/117/1367790070/n1367790070_30002838_3432.jpg
http://photos-054.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v50/115/8/1353570054/n1353570054_30000253_7994.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v45/78/117/1367790070/n1367790070_30002855_9345.jpg
its so cute though, nick's favorite movie is an american tale... and i think he kinda looks like fivel... haha..
we also play X-men legends whenever we can make time...
I :heart: Fivel Goes West
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:09 AM
he's cute
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:10 AM
I :heart: Fivel Goes West
i bought the 2 pack... of it and FGW so i could impress him...
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:11 AM
kools
http://plig.org/things/pictures/tn/hijack.med.jpg
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:15 AM
it needs a unicorn... and a rainbow added to it... as well as a half naked guy:o
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:17 AM
Oddly enough, I agree.
lol... ya im not normally into that.. but think it'd be funny lol
I think we can use this thread as a guise.
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 03:22 AM
needs a poll though :(
squeekness
07-02-2007, 09:10 AM
I look like a whore.:( You most certainly do not! :mad: You like like my adopted son. :heart:
I think we can use this thread as a guise.A gay Lounge? I like it!
One thing though, guys. I see you've posted pics of folks other than yourselves. You might not want to do that only because the others might see it as invading their privacy. This is a very public place. Just sayin'... :)
MakeMineMarvel
07-02-2007, 01:09 PM
I have nothing against homosexuals. I'd just like ample use of the rainbow back without being labeled, you know?
jaguarr
07-02-2007, 01:12 PM
I have nothing against homosexuals. I'd just like ample use of the rainbow back without being labeled, you know?
You....use the rainbow a lot? :huh:
:oldrazz:
jag
Spade
07-02-2007, 01:17 PM
"Use the rainbow"?! I taste the rainbow!
Yup, woke up in a random mood.
Welcome to the gay lounge!
I love gay people.
Rorschach II
07-02-2007, 02:13 PM
That's sarcastic. Rainbow flag, url on the sign, plus the tone of the message tell me that.
Yeah we got that captain.
I think I look like a whore too :(
squeekness
07-02-2007, 02:46 PM
What exactly do you guys think a whore looks like? You can't be that bad. :)
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p237/AetherTank/Danceswithwolves.gif
Which looks better.
http://a852.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/80/l_16fdd79618d223999e3a064bb0fdf323.jpg
With my hair and glasses and my sister.
http://a693.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_5e8aee9087648dc79a324c192dc0f9e4.jpg
Without hair/glasses/sister, with GF and Leather trench.
Carcharodon
07-02-2007, 03:09 PM
I :heart: Fivel Goes WestGive him the laAaAaaaazy eyeeee!!
:( You most certainly do not! :mad: You like like my adopted son. :heart:
:woot::heart:
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p237/AetherTank/Danceswithwolves.gif
Which looks better.
http://a852.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/80/l_16fdd79618d223999e3a064bb0fdf323.jpg
With my hair and glasses and my sister.
http://a693.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_5e8aee9087648dc79a324c192dc0f9e4.jpg
Without hair/glasses/sister, with GF and Leather trench.
I like the hair and glasses. :o
spideyboy_1111
07-02-2007, 04:51 PM
:( You most certainly do not! :mad: You like like my adopted son. :heart:
A gay Lounge? I like it!
One thing though, guys. I see you've posted pics of folks other than yourselves. You might not want to do that only because the others might see it as invading their privacy. This is a very public place. Just sayin'... :)
i dont really care to be honest... no one can get information on them from a pic.. and they sure as hell (nor do there friends) visit the hype... so its all good
Mattchew
07-04-2007, 08:29 AM
not gonna quote that animated pic, as to NOT send people into epileptic shock, but i love that you're/he dancing and it looks like nobody in the background can be bothered.
Fred_Fury
07-04-2007, 11:37 AM
The sarcasm in that sign went waaaaay over your heads. She's obviously a gay rights advocate, dumbasses.
xwolverine2
07-04-2007, 01:54 PM
Okay here is an actually picture from a anti-gay protest.
http://sperone.free.fr/images/extraz/PICS17/gaycomputer.jpg
this is why freedom of speech was so hard to get....
douchebags like this
Spade
07-04-2007, 02:04 PM
Dude, you are SOOO late. Like I've said to a few other people, you might want to look at the last few pages and look into that image a bit more carefully before flinging names around.
Mr Sparkle
07-04-2007, 08:18 PM
I mean....are "these people" anymore "representative" of those that support homosexuality, than that person is a representative of those that don't??
That was extreme to try to paint those that oppose, as that lady with the sign. It is also an extreme to paint all homosexuals as the "flamers" depicted above.
hate to break it to you.
homosexuality is there whether you "support" it or not, it's like PBS or some ****.
if by "not supporting homosexuality" you mean, saying it's a curable disease, I think that this stance alone is interesting enough.
I don't think that this is about representation.
skin heads hate Jews as much as the common, white collar level headed racist, doesn't make one superior to the other.
just thought you should know.
ServantofAllah
07-04-2007, 09:42 PM
This thread is so gay.
lol.
Kritish
07-04-2007, 09:45 PM
You people and your wombat porn (hot wombats, I'm sure, though).
jag
Wombats have two baby exits. *licks lips*
Dan33977
07-04-2007, 11:20 PM
hate to break it to you.
homosexuality is there whether you "support" it or not, it's like PBS or some ****.
if by "not supporting homosexuality" you mean, saying it's a curable disease, I think that this stance alone is interesting enough.
I don't think that this is about representation.
skin heads hate Jews as much as the common, white collar level headed racist, doesn't make one superior to the other.
just thought you should know.
I don't support Memphis Slim.
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 12:54 PM
enjoy the gay bashing while you can. its bad taste to do it in hollywood. NEXT.... THE WORLD! MUHAHAHAH!
Lightning Strykez!
07-09-2007, 01:08 PM
This thread is...very intriguing. lol
FatA$$
07-09-2007, 01:28 PM
thats funny
This thread is...very intriguing. lol
Nah, you lyke it. :o
jaguarr
07-09-2007, 05:35 PM
ya if only i didn't look high and gross at the same time...
heres what i look like on a good day
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/spideyboy_1111/All%20About%20ME/me-faux.jpg
BTW....I know shartface when I see it and you, sir, have shartface. :notgood:
jag
Lightning Strykez!
07-09-2007, 05:49 PM
Lol
WalterKovacs
07-09-2007, 05:56 PM
"Electric skillets must also go!!"
I hate homophobia. next time i see someone being a homophobe i'll show them that picture. i honestly dont get why everyone hates gay people so much. As far as i know I'm not gay but that type of hatred still makes me sad.
plus i think kevin smith is making a horror film called red state about that family
WalterKovacs
07-09-2007, 05:58 PM
I have nothing against homosexuals. I'd just like ample use of the rainbow back without being labeled, you know?
like demetri martin lol. "I just think its wrong that one group stole refracted light"
spideyboy_1111
07-09-2007, 10:49 PM
BTW....I know shartface when I see it and you, sir, have shartface. :notgood:
jag
:( thats kinda mean :(
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 10:53 PM
does shartface = fulgy
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 10:55 PM
ps: 'Miss Smith, why would Regina refer to herself as a fug-a-ly ****?'
jaguarr
07-09-2007, 11:09 PM
does shartface = fulgy
It doesn't mean that at all. Even the most beautiful people can get shartface.
jag
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 11:10 PM
so what does it mean?
jaguarr
07-09-2007, 11:13 PM
so what does it mean?
You know when you go to fart but it turns out to be just a little bit more than just a fart...a little something extra you weren't expecting? That's a shart. Shartface is the face you make when you realize what just happened.
jag
Dan33977
07-09-2007, 11:16 PM
BTW....I know shartface when I see it and you, sir, have shartface. :notgood:
jag
does shartface = fulgy
It doesn't mean that at all. Even the most beautiful people can get shartface.
jag
so what does it mean?
LOL!
I just looked it up: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shartface.
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 11:21 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhh.... eww.
jaguarr
07-09-2007, 11:22 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhh.... eww.
Indeed. spideyboy is unclean! Unclean!!!!!! :wow:
:hyper:
jag
Moviefan2k4
07-09-2007, 11:31 PM
This will be my only post in this thread. I believe homosexuality to be 100% completely sinful and absolutely wrong. However, it is not my place to be the Judge of anyone. All I can do is voice my view in a peaceful manner, and leave it at that. One of my main philosophies on life is, "I will always tell you the whole truth, to the best of my knowledge and ability. I don't ask or expect you to agree with it; that's between you and God."
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 11:34 PM
hmm.. from texas huh?
Dan33977
07-09-2007, 11:35 PM
*deleted*
Dan33977
07-09-2007, 11:36 PM
This will be my only post in this thread. I believe homosexuality to be 100% completely sinful and absolutely wrong. However, it is not my place to be the Judge of anyone. All I can do is voice my view in a peaceful manner, and leave it at that. One of my main philosophies on life is, "I will always tell you the whole truth, to the best of my knowledge and ability. I don't ask or expect you to agree with it; that's between you and God."
And I respect your view, which you are entitled to have.:yay:
hmm.. from texas huh?
I'm from Texas, too. And you're from Ohio...
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 11:37 PM
sorry... texas is wildly progressive.
Dan33977
07-09-2007, 11:42 PM
sorry... texas is wildly progressive.
Austin, TX actually is. Have you ever even been there?
Badger
07-09-2007, 11:42 PM
This will be my only post in this thread. I believe homosexuality to be 100% completely sinful and absolutely wrong. However, it is not my place to be the Judge of anyone. All I can do is voice my view in a peaceful manner, and leave it at that. One of my main philosophies on life is, "I will always tell you the whole truth, to the best of my knowledge and ability. I don't ask or expect you to agree with it; that's between you and God."
Let me be the one to say, that you and the people that take this stance hiding behind the bible/God, are cowards. If you have a problem with homosexuality, then have the balls to say it on your own two feet. Don't justify it by twisting the words of a book and/or because you're naive enough to believe what fellow 'sheep' told you to believe.
Mattchew
07-09-2007, 11:52 PM
A) I've been to Austin. It was for a wedding, but I get it... not all Texans are of the 'God Bless Texas' variety.
b) If you consider yourself a progressive, are you claiming you DONT lament the political and social realities in TX?
Columbus, Oh has a very large gay population... Ohio is also a wildly homophobic and conservative state. AND WE'RE A SWING STATE.
That's not some generalization... there are voting records to back it up.
I'm not calling everyone from any given state one thing or another... but I stand by the fact that I'm hardly shocked that Texas is home to such an amazingly free thinking and progressive mind, like Moviefan2k4....
I'd say the same thing if they had an OH under their name, you can be sure.
spideyboy_1111
07-10-2007, 04:59 AM
A) I've been to Austin. It was for a wedding, but I get it... not all Texans are of the 'God Bless Texas' variety.
b) If you consider yourself a progressive, are you claiming you DONT lament the political and social realities in TX?
Columbus, Oh has a very large gay population... Ohio is also a wildly homophobic and conservative state. AND WE'RE A SWING STATE.
That's not some generalization... there are voting records to back it up.
I'm not calling everyone from any given state one thing or another... but I stand by the fact that I'm hardly shocked that Texas is home to such an amazingly free thinking and progressive mind, like Moviefan2k4....
I'd say the same thing if they had an OH under their name, you can be sure.
me being gay and from ohio myself... ill say this. Ohio is alot more of a swing state and open then i ever thought.... its just most gay guys in ohio have a hard time coming out, because they feel like there the onlyones.. thats why i didnt in highschool. But since iv'e come out, ive came across zero hostility everyone is very open and accepting of me
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 08:46 AM
Let me explain where I'm coming from...
I go running about 4 times a week. I think there have been about 10 times in the past few months where a stranger has yelled at me that I was a 'fagg0t' simply because I was running... And not in short shorts, or some *****. Your typical workout clothes whether it be sweats or gym shorts and a backwards baseball cap. One time, someone threw a Gatorade bottle @ me from a Jeep and yelled 'f*** you ***'.
Having said that, I obviously have a ton of people in my life that are accepting, wonderful people.... Because I've created a bubble for myself.
There are parts of Ohio, Texas and too many other places, where leaving that 'bubble' means if you're gay and you don't send out a gay vibe strangers who don't know you're gay feel MORE than comfortable saying some truly awful stuff about gay people in your presence, since they can't IMAGINE they'd ever be in the company of a gay person... Gay people are like an abstract idea.
That's true of everywhere, but I can assure you having traveled to different parts of the country, there ARE varying levels of intolerance and ignorance.
Incidentally, that trend is true about racist comment to... as in 'I don't see any black people... so I can say any racist comment I want... we're all white here!' I probably hear people use the n-word about 2-3 times a month (in a non-quoting non-ironic non-taking-it-back kinda way) and it is ALWAYS when I'm in a bar or waiting in line somewhere... Never when I'm hanging with the people I have relationships with.
I DO NOT buy the story that Ohio is welcoming to gay people. I DO NOT buy the idea that somehow Texas is welcoming to gay people.
There are gay havens all over the country (Austin and Columbus among them), but the fact that they exist underscores the point that it's not very easy living elsewhere those respective states.
... And for the record the stories about running all took place a 15 minute drive from down town Columbus.
jaguarr
07-10-2007, 09:31 AM
This will be my only post in this thread. I believe homosexuality to be 100% completely sinful and absolutely wrong. However, it is not my place to be the Judge of anyone. All I can do is voice my view in a peaceful manner, and leave it at that. One of my main philosophies on life is, "I will always tell you the whole truth, to the best of my knowledge and ability. I don't ask or expect you to agree with it; that's between you and God."
So what was the point of even coming into this thread and saying what you have said? To remind the gay people that are posting in here that there are people like you out there who think they are an abomination of nature? I have to agree with BadgerPhil that it's a cowardly stance indeed to hide your bigotry and hatred behind words from a holy book that have been twisted to suit that agenda. If you don't approve of homosexuals, fine...stay out of their lives and STFU. If you ask yourself "What would Jesus do?", I severely doubt he'd be doing drive-by "you're sinners!!!!!!" on message boards.
jag
moraldeficiency
07-10-2007, 09:45 AM
Let me explain where I'm coming from...
I go running about 4 times a week. I think there have been about 10 times in the past few months where a stranger has yelled at me that I was a 'fagg0t' simply because I was running... And not in short shorts, or some *****. Your typical workout clothes whether it be sweats or gym shorts and a backwards baseball cap. One time, someone threw a Gatorade bottle @ me from a Jeep and yelled 'f*** you ***'.
Having said that, I obviously have a ton of people in my life that are accepting, wonderful people.... Because I've created a bubble for myself.
There are parts of Ohio, Texas and too many other places, where leaving that 'bubble' means if you're gay and you don't send out a gay vibe strangers who don't know you're gay feel MORE than comfortable saying some truly awful stuff about gay people in your presence, since they can't IMAGINE they'd ever be in the company of a gay person... Gay people are like an abstract idea.
That's true of everywhere, but I can assure you having traveled to different parts of the country, there ARE varying levels of intolerance and ignorance.
Incidentally, that trend is true about racist comment to... as in 'I don't see any black people... so I can say any racist comment I want... we're all white here!' I probably hear people use the n-word about 2-3 times a month (in a non-quoting non-ironic non-taking-it-back kinda way) and it is ALWAYS when I'm in a bar or waiting in line somewhere... Never when I'm hanging with the people I have relationships with.
I DO NOT buy the story that Ohio is welcoming to gay people. I DO NOT buy the idea that somehow Texas is welcoming to gay people.
There are gay havens all over the country (Austin and Columbus among them), but the fact that they exist underscores the point that it's not very easy living elsewhere those respective states.
... And for the record the stories about running all took place a 15 minute drive from down town Columbus.
Maybe you just run like a girl?
Being different from the status quo never is easy but to say whole states won't accept you is pretty prejudiced in its own right. Some people in every state will accept others while some won't. It might be easier in a "haven" but that's really just another word for ghetto isn't it? Everyone has problems in different envirnments but it's sticking and fighting for what's right that makes people change their minds and learn to accept.
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 10:06 AM
Maybe you just run like a girl?
nice. thanks for that.
to say whole states won't accept you is pretty prejudiced in its own right.
who said that?
Everyone has problems in different environments but it's sticking and fighting for what's right that makes people change their minds and learn to accept.
on that, we agree 100%.
moraldeficiency
07-10-2007, 10:14 AM
nice. thanks for that.
who said that?
on that, we agree 100%.
Just trying to offer an opinion you might not have considered.
You did, you said, "I DO NOT buy the story that Ohio is welcoming to gay people. I DO NOT buy the idea that somehow Texas is welcoming to gay people."
That's pretty much inclusive as you're speaking for whole states. No state is either welcoming or not welcoming. They're landmasses, they have neither feeling nor emotion. People welcome or don't, but you'll find that anywhere, probably even in your havens.
Keep on fighting then, just try not to flail your arms when you run.
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 10:36 AM
no states AREN'T just landmasses. To claim this is to truely have NO understanding of how our government works. FOR INSTANCE...
I WILL point out that, we have states in this country where gay sex is illegal... Texas is one of them. That's a fact. Not some abstraction.
It's warm and fuzzy to say that we should view people as individuals... I agree that as you walk down the street you interact with people, not groups, but at the end of the day laws written and pasted by politicians voted on by people are passed that create REAL inequalities in this country... And those inequalities ARE VERY MUCH based on state lines.
I guess, its just sometimes REALLY easy for people who can't be thrown in jail depending on what sate you're in to feel that state's are an abstract idea. They aren't 3 states currently ban gay people from adopting. This same issue will be on several state ballots in 08... It's the new 'gay-marriage-ban' issue for the upcoming Presidential elextion.
moraldeficiency
07-10-2007, 10:40 AM
no states AREN'T just landmasses. To claim this is to truely have NO understanding of how our government works. FOR INSTANCE...
I WILL point out that, we have states in this country where gay sex is illegal. That's a fact. Not some abstraction.
It's warm and fuzzy to say that we should view people as individuals... I agree that as you walk down the street you interact with people, not groups, but at the end of the day laws written and pasted by politicians voted on by people are passed that create REAL inequalities in this country... And those inequalities ARE VERY MUCH based on state lines.
State laws aren't states. States are landmass boundries. The laws are made by the people that choose to settle those boundries. You want the laws changed? Don't go to havens, branch out and vote.
Inequalities have and will always exist. Don't complain too much cause we've got it pretty freaking good. Nobody's a slave in this country and everybody gets to vote.
Like I said, want state laws to change? Don't flee the state, invade and change it from within. Progress is never easy, quick, or complete but you can get little victories which actually mean something from time to time.
squeekness
07-10-2007, 10:43 AM
Let me be the one to say, that you and the people that take this stance hiding behind the bible/God, are cowards. If you have a problem with homosexuality, then have the balls to say it on your own two feet. Don't justify it by twisting the words of a book and/or because you're naive enough to believe what fellow 'sheep' told you to believe.
I for one would like to say that not all religious people think gay people are bad or sinners. I believe in the majority of what the Bible says but I also believe we are the way God made us. If you're gay it's because it was in God's plan for you to be that way so why fight it? I think monogomous gay couples should have the same rights as any other. I think the only gay sinners are those who are promiscious (I would think the same of them if they were straight), who force themselves on someone else, and who molest children. The vast majority of gay people do not do these things so why condemn them all? If you're gay, then that's just who you are. :)
jaguarr
07-10-2007, 10:45 AM
I for one would like to say that not all religious people think gay people are bad or sinners. I believe in the majority of what the Bible says but I also believe we are the way God made us. If you're gay it's because it was in God's plan for you to be that way so why fight it? I think monogomous gay couples should have the same rights as any other. I think the only gay sinners are those who are promiscious (I would think the same of them if they were straight), who force themselves on someone else, and who molest children. The vast majority of gay people do not do these things so why condemn them all? If you're gay, then that's just who you are. :)
:up: :heart:
jag
moraldeficiency
07-10-2007, 10:46 AM
I for one would like to say that not all religious people think gay people are bad or sinners. I believe in the majority of what the Bible says but I also believe we are the way God made us. If you're gay it's because it was in God's plan for you to be that way so why fight it? I think monogomous gay couples should have the same rights as any other. I think the only gay sinners are those who are promiscious (I would think the same of them if they were straight), who force themselves on someone else, and who molest children. The vast majority of gay people do not do these things so why condemn them all? If you're gay, then that's just who you are. :)
Yeah I hate when one religious (supposedly) person comes in, acts like they speak for the group then says something profoundly stupid and the exact opposite of what someone actually belonging to that faith would say.
squeekness
07-10-2007, 10:50 AM
Yeah I hate when one religious (supposedly) person comes in, acts like they speak for the group then says something profoundly stupid and the exact opposite of what someone actually belonging to that faith would say.I know a lot of people who say they are religious who feel the same way I do. My husband agrees with me on everything but one point -- he feels the church has the right to deny a religious wedding to gay people. He thinks gays have the right to a civil or state wedding and that they should have the same financial and health care rights as everyone else. But he figures since a church wedding isn't absolutely essential to be married, if the church wants to refuse they should have that right. I think if a gay couple wants a religious wedding they should be able to have one. :)
Sun_Down
07-10-2007, 10:52 AM
I for one would like to say that not all religious people think gay people are bad or sinners. I believe in the majority of what the Bible says but I also believe we are the way God made us. If you're gay it's because it was in God's plan for you to be that way so why fight it? I think monogomous gay couples should have the same rights as any other. I think the only gay sinners are those who are promiscious (I would think the same of them if they were straight), who force themselves on someone else, and who molest children. The vast majority of gay people do not do these things so why condemn them all? If you're gay, then that's just who you are. :)
Great post, squeek. I also find it very odd that "religious" people pick out homosexuality as this unforgivable, damnable sin, but ignore all other parts of the Bible, like that whole loving thy neighbor thing. Even if homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible (that's VERY disputable), it doesn't matter. According to the Bible, we're all sinners and have no grounds to judge others.
moraldeficiency
07-10-2007, 10:54 AM
I know a lot of people who say they are religious who feel the same way I do. My husband agrees with me on everything but one point -- he feels the church has the right to deny a religious wedding to gay people. He thinks gays have the right to a civil or state wedding and that they should have the same financial and health care rights as everyone else. But he figures since a church wedding isn't absolutely essential to be married, if the church wants to refuse they should have that right. I think if a gay couple wants a religious wedding they should be able to have one. :)
Yeah, I agree. Why should gay people not have to be bored out of their minds by the exact same scripture verses. (they need to spice up the wedding ceremony a bit)
moraldeficiency
07-10-2007, 10:59 AM
Great post, squeek. I also find it very odd that "religious" people pick out homosexuality as this unforgivable, damnable sin, but ignore all other parts of the Bible, like that whole loving thy neighbor thing. Even if homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible (that's VERY disputable), it doesn't matter. According to the Bible, we're all sinners and have no grounds to judge others.
Elliot wrote a great play about that, Murder in the Cathedral. It shows the levels of sin with the greatest being doing the "righteous" thing for the wrong reason.
The last lines:
Now is my way clear, now is the meaning plain:
Temptation shall not come in this kind again.
The last temptation is the greatest treason:
To do the right deed for the wrong reason.
Basically pride in how much more righteous you are only sends you further into hell.
Great read BTW.
squeekness
07-10-2007, 11:02 AM
Great post, squeek. I also find it very odd that "religious" people pick out homosexuality as this unforgivable, damnable sin, but ignore all other parts of the Bible, like that whole loving thy neighbor thing. Even if homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible (that's VERY disputable), it doesn't matter. According to the Bible, we're all sinners and have no grounds to judge others.I heartily agree. :)
Yeah, I agree. Why should gay people not have to be bored out of their minds by the exact same scripture verses. (they need to spice up the wedding ceremony a bit)LOLs.:D
Elliot wrote a great play about that, Murder in the Cathedral. It shows the levels of sin with the greatest being doing the "righteous" thing for the wrong reason.
The last lines:
Now is my way clear, now is the meaning plain:
Temptation shall not come in this kind again.
The last temptation is the greatest treason:
To do the right deed for the wrong reason.
Basically pride in how much more righteous you are only sends you further into hell.
Great read BTW.This is true. I cringe when someone comes on with this "my way or the highway" attitude about their beliefs. The core idea is that we are supposed to be helping and supporting one another, not sticking up our noses at someone who thinks differently. :)
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 11:05 AM
Nice Squeekness!
I have a few very religious, yet tolerant friends.
I'm an atheist, but I do actually have a huge respect for tolerant religious people...
A few times we've had talks about how gay people do or don't find religion, and why.
I don find it a real shame that gay people are so excluded from spirituality for the most part in our country, because whether or not I believe in god or jesus, I do fully appreciate the community aspect, charity, and teachings of love in religion.
It is a reality, that gay people cannot in any way change the minds of people the likes of Jerry Falwell and his followers. The responsibility falls on other Christians who are sick of their religion being hijacked and used to instill fear and hate.
Similar to the reality that white men's voices were a vital component in achieving more equality for women and African Americans.
But... at this point nobody should really concern her or himself with changing Jerry Falwell's opinion.
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 11:15 AM
I know a lot of people who say they are religious who feel the same way I do. My husband agrees with me on everything but one point -- he feels the church has the right to deny a religious wedding to gay people. He thinks gays have the right to a civil or state wedding and that they should have the same financial and health care rights as everyone else. But he figures since a church wedding isn't absolutely essential to be married, if the church wants to refuse they should have that right. I think if a gay couple wants a religious wedding they should be able to have one. :)
I actually agree with your husband. I don't think America is or will ever be a place where a court tells a church they can't ban gay people from getting married there. Nor should it be...
However, this argument always takes the VERY small-minded view that all churches wish to ban gay marriages.
Not all churches do.
A REEEEEEAL stumper for a guy a I know how is VERY MUCH against gay rights, is the total hypocrisy of this issue. If you claim the church is THE vital piece of the puzzle when it comes to marriage, and churches WILL grant gay marriages, then you don't really have a leg to stand on other than to switch gears and claim that marriages are granted by the state, as which point religion is out the window due to separation of church and state... And people don't like that at all.
PS: The civil union thing is a joke. It goes back to the whole states rights issue I was talking about before. Civil Unions were just passed in NJ, and there are already stories about how the law maker's EQUAL JUST CALLED SOMETHING ELSE civil unions are in fact not equal because companies like UPS are denying spousal benefits in the state because these benefits are governed by federal law which only guarantees benefits to married people, not those in civil unions....
then again 'separate but equal' doesn't really stand for much of anything at all, these days.
squeekness
07-10-2007, 11:24 AM
Nice Squeekness!
I have a few very religious, yet tolerant friends.
I'm an atheist, but I do actually have a huge respect for tolerant religious people...
A few times we've had talks about how gay people do or don't find religion, and why.
I don find it a real shame that gay people are so excluded from spirituality for the most part in our country, because whether or not I believe in god or jesus, I do fully appreciate the community aspect, charity, and teachings of love in religion.
It is a reality, that gay people cannot in any way change the minds of people the likes of Jerry Falwell and his followers. The responsibility falls on other Christians who are sick of their religion being hijacked and used to instill fear and hate.
But... at this point nobody should really concern her or himself with changing Jerry Falwell's opinion.Nothing makes more sad that watching a religious gay person turn away from the Lord just because a church rejected him. That to me is the worse sin -- forcing someone out of the fold out of your own arrogance.
I actually agree with your husband. I don't think America is or will ever be a place where a court tells a church they can't ban gay people from getting married there. Nor should it be...
However, this argument always takes the VERY small-minded view that all churches wish to ban gay marriages.
No all churches do.
PS: The civil union thing is a joke. It goes back to the whole states rights issue I was talking about before. Civil Unions were just passed in NJ, and there are already stories about how the law maker's EQUAL JUST CALLED SOMETHING ELSE civil unions are in fact not equal because companies like UPS are denying spousal benefits in the state because these benefits are governed by federal law which only guarantees benefits to married people, not those in civil unions....
then again 'separate but equal' doesn't really stand for much of anything at all, these days.That is so sad. If you co-habitate with someone for so long like that, buy a house together and all, you should have the same rights as any other married couple. :(
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 11:33 AM
Can someone get squeekness a thrown? I bow down.
squeekness
07-10-2007, 11:40 AM
Can someone get squeekness a thrown? I bow down.It's not me, lol, it's just simple reasoning that comes from really listening to what Jesus said and did. He didn't turn anyone away. If being gay was supposedly the absolute worst thing a person could do or be, wouldn't he have addressed it repeatedly? Yet, he never says one thing about it one way or the other. Of course he was quick to point out how bad it was to judge other people and not help them or how bad a sin it was to make someone turn away from God. ;)
Badger
07-10-2007, 12:04 PM
I for one would like to say that not all religious people think gay people are bad or sinners. I believe in the majority of what the Bible says but I also believe we are the way God made us. If you're gay it's because it was in God's plan for you to be that way so why fight it? I think monogomous gay couples should have the same rights as any other. I think the only gay sinners are those who are promiscious (I would think the same of them if they were straight), who force themselves on someone else, and who molest children. The vast majority of gay people do not do these things so why condemn them all? If you're gay, then that's just who you are. :)
I know that. I consider myself a Christian, but I don't rely on how other people see the "Message" of the Bible/Teachings. I form my own opinion, and mine matches up pretty well with yours.
If you believe in a higher power and that you were given everything you need to led your life by his example, Jesus or whatever person your belief system has set as that example, then why would you be giving a 'Sin' you cannot to anything about.
That's like saying all people born with 'Hazel Eyes' are sinners and will burn in Hell.
Doesn't make sense. Anyone that says otherwise has hatred and bigotry rooted in them and just needs something to hide behind. Or, they are ignorant in the extreme.
Badger
07-10-2007, 12:05 PM
It's not me, lol, it's just simple reasoning that comes from really listening to what Jesus said and did. He didn't turn anyone away. If being gay was supposedly the absolute worst thing a person could do or be, wouldn't he have addressed it repeatedly? Yet, he never says one thing about it one way or the other. Of course he was quick to point out how bad it was to judge other people and not help them or how bad a sin it was to make someone turn away from God. ;)
You are :heart: .
squeekness
07-10-2007, 12:05 PM
You are :heart: .Thanks. :D
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 03:20 PM
nice, BadgerPhil... plus im obsessed with your avatar.
spideyboy_1111
07-10-2007, 04:16 PM
Let me explain where I'm coming from...
I go running about 4 times a week. I think there have been about 10 times in the past few months where a stranger has yelled at me that I was a 'fagg0t' simply because I was running... And not in short shorts, or some *****. Your typical workout clothes whether it be sweats or gym shorts and a backwards baseball cap. One time, someone threw a Gatorade bottle @ me from a Jeep and yelled 'f*** you ***'.
Having said that, I obviously have a ton of people in my life that are accepting, wonderful people.... Because I've created a bubble for myself.
There are parts of Ohio, Texas and too many other places, where leaving that 'bubble' means if you're gay and you don't send out a gay vibe strangers who don't know you're gay feel MORE than comfortable saying some truly awful stuff about gay people in your presence, since they can't IMAGINE they'd ever be in the company of a gay person... Gay people are like an abstract idea.
That's true of everywhere, but I can assure you having traveled to different parts of the country, there ARE varying levels of intolerance and ignorance.
Incidentally, that trend is true about racist comment to... as in 'I don't see any black people... so I can say any racist comment I want... we're all white here!' I probably hear people use the n-word about 2-3 times a month (in a non-quoting non-ironic non-taking-it-back kinda way) and it is ALWAYS when I'm in a bar or waiting in line somewhere... Never when I'm hanging with the people I have relationships with.
I DO NOT buy the story that Ohio is welcoming to gay people. I DO NOT buy the idea that somehow Texas is welcoming to gay people.
There are gay havens all over the country (Austin and Columbus among them), but the fact that they exist underscores the point that it's not very easy living elsewhere those respective states.
... And for the record the stories about running all took place a 15 minute drive from down town Columbus.
really? where you from? i grew up in springfield.. out in the county, and columbus if loaded with black people, so im suprised they all dissapear 15 min away. To this day, iv e never been called a ****** to my face
Badger
07-10-2007, 04:33 PM
nice, BadgerPhil... plus im obsessed with your avatar.
Thanks. :up:
I've had that for so long (the full gif) I don't remember were I found it.
Though I wish I could have the whole thing ran in my avatar. :csad:
Aw, my Squeek is spreading the love. :heart:
jaguarr
07-10-2007, 04:42 PM
I know that. I consider myself a Christian, but I don't rely on how other people see the "Message" of the Bible/Teachings. I form my own opinion, and mine matches up pretty well with yours.
If you believe in a higher power and that you were given everything you need to led your life by his example, Jesus or whatever person your belief system has set as that example, then why would you be giving a 'Sin' you cannot to anything about.
That's like saying all people born with 'Hazel Eyes' are sinners and will burn in Hell.
Doesn't make sense. Anyone that says otherwise has hatred and bigotry rooted in them and just needs something to hide behind. Or, they are ignorant in the extreme.
I really wish more Christians took that stance. I think it's the one Jesus would endorse, personally. The problems start when some folks start viewing homosexuality as a choice rather than just something some people are born as. None of the gay people I know ever wished to be gay. Some of them have had some VERY hard lives because of their homosexuality and have even gone through periods where they said that if they could change and be heterosexual instead they would have done so in a heartbeat to save themselves so much grief and persecution. Thankfully most of them have worked past that and learned to just embrace who they are and live happy, productive lives. I wince when I think that some folks have to hide who they really are or ever feel embarrassed or apologetic for being themselves just because some folks in society don't like what they are and hide behind words they took from a holy book and twisted to justify their prejudices like cowards. THAT is not Christian-like at all as far as I'm concerned. It's despicable.
jag
Mattchew
07-10-2007, 04:53 PM
really? where you from? i grew up in springfield.. out in the county, and columbus if loaded with black people, so im suprised they all dissapear 15 min away. To this day, iv e never been called a ****** to my face
Bexley. As for the idea that all black people disappear 15 mins away from downtown, that wasn't really what I was saying... Just that when it all white people, the n-word flows a bit too freely... But NEVER in mixed company... That's in bad taste! ;)
no worries though... it got buried yesterday. now someone just has to tell the bigots.
spideyboy_1111
07-10-2007, 05:10 PM
Bexley. As for the idea that all black people disappear 15 mins away from downtown, that wasn't really what I was saying... Just that when it all white people, the n-word flows a bit too freely... But NEVER in mixed company... That's in bad taste! ;)
no worries though... it got buried yesterday. now someone just has to tell the bigots.
lol, really when i was home last week (i was home for 3 weeks) but just got back to LA friday, i talked to alot of gay guys online from bexely... several hotties even.. so i didnt get an "uptight" reaction at all... i duno, maybe u've just ran into bad luck? because the columbus "area" (which i will include bexely in) id assume is much more tolerateable then springfield.. where there was only one out gay guy at the entire time i was in school... and he was a senior when i was a freshman..
Mattchew
07-11-2007, 10:23 AM
the columbus "area" (which i will include bexely in) id assume is much more tolerateable then springfield
to be sure.
spideyboy_1111
07-12-2007, 10:05 AM
omg.. i so cant spell
Badger
07-12-2007, 10:43 AM
I really wish more Christians took that stance. I think it's the one Jesus would endorse, personally. The problems start when some folks start viewing homosexuality as a choice rather than just something some people are born as. None of the gay people I know ever wished to be gay. Some of them have had some VERY hard lives because of their homosexuality and have even gone through periods where they said that if they could change and be heterosexual instead they would have done so in a heartbeat to save themselves so much grief and persecution. Thankfully most of them have worked past that and learned to just embrace who they are and live happy, productive lives. I wince when I think that some folks have to hide who they really are or ever feel embarrassed or apologetic for being themselves just because some folks in society don't like what they are and hide behind words they took from a holy book and twisted to justify their prejudices like cowards. THAT is not Christian-like at all as far as I'm concerned. It's despicable.
jag
Well said. My mom had a cousin who spent most of his life hiding the fact that he was gay. I can't even imagine what he went through, being gay and growning up the 60/70's, not being able to talk to anyone while he was still living at home. He grew up in the same town I did, and I can say, back then it would have not gone over well.
Later on in life he moved to Chicago and started coming out to family and friends. And proudly not one member of my family cared really. He was still just Dave. He was a fun loving and caring individual, someone I looked up to a great deal. Never really got to know him to well, died when I was 13, but he made a big impact.
Anyway, people that are closed minded miss out on so much in life. It's a shame really, but their loss.
jaguarr
07-12-2007, 10:49 AM
I can relate to a certain degree, Phil. I have two female cousins that are gay (they're sisters, actually, though their older sister is straight) and when they first came out my whole family did their best to not judge them or alienate them but it was painfully obvious that it was a big source of tension for a lot of my relatives. I just treated them like the two big sisters who'd tortured me throughout my youth like I always had (I was in high school when they came out) and eventually everyone started doing basically the same. They've both told me that it was my just treating them like I always had that sort of set the stage for their own PARENTS to learn how to do that. Sadly, I know other families don't deal with members coming out so well. It's tragic because there's just no need for it.
jag
squeekness
07-12-2007, 11:45 AM
Well said. My mom had a cousin who spent most of his life hiding the fact that he was gay. I can't even imagine what he went through, being gay and growning up the 60/70's, not being able to talk to anyone while he was still living at home. He grew up in the same town I did, and I can say, back then it would have not gone over well.
Later on in life he moved to Chicago and started coming out to family and friends. And proudly not one member of my family cared really. He was still just Dave. He was a fun loving and caring individual, someone I looked up to a great deal. Never really got to know him to well, died when I was 13, but he made a big impact.
Anyway, people that are closed minded miss out on so much in life. It's a shame really, but their loss.I'm glad your mom's cousin had a fairly good coming out. Nothing makes me angrier than when gays try to live straight and get married and have kids, being miserable the whole time. And why? Because some one else told them this is how they are supposed to live. It usually ends in misery for the spouse and the kids anyhow so what's the point? If you're gay, you're gay and that's it. Fighting it just leads to mroe pain than anyone should have to live with. :(
I can relate to a certain degree, Phil. I have two female cousins that are gay (they're sisters, actually, though their older sister is straight) and when they first came out my whole family did their best to not judge them or alienate them but it was painfully obvious that it was a big source of tension for a lot of my relatives. I just treated them like the two big sisters who'd tortured me throughout my youth like I always had (I was in high school when they came out) and eventually everyone started doing basically the same. They've both told me that it was my just treating them like I always had that sort of set the stage for their own PARENTS to learn how to do that. Sadly, I know other families don't deal with members coming out so well. It's tragic because there's just no need for it.
jagYou're right, there is no need for it. I hate how gay people feel they have to hide the way they are when they were simply born that way. I think some of the uglier aspects of homosexuality -- the sneaking around, the promiscuity, and all that -- are driven by a need to hide who they really are, just because someone else told them it was wrong when it really isn't. :(
jaguarr
07-12-2007, 12:01 PM
I think some of the uglier aspects of homosexuality -- the sneaking around, the promiscuity, and all that -- are driven by a need to hide who they really are, just because someone else told them it was wrong when it really isn't. :(
Well, the thing is, I know A LOT of gay people and they are nowhere near as promiscuous with their sexuality as the straight people that I know. Keep in mind I know people of all sexual creeds who run in both kink/leather community circles and more straight-edge circles and my observation still holds up; the gay people I know are, on the whole, more monogamous and careful about who they'll sleep with than most straight people I know. That's what's interesting about the stereotypes to me. I know in certain parts of the country, the gay population is more promiscuous (I've heard Miami can be this way), but then again....isn't EVERYONE in those areas a bit more promiscuous than other places? I don't know the answer, but it seems silly to me to think that simply one substrata of the population would be that way while the rest would not in a particular area.
jag
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