The New Catwoman Casting Thread

[RachelDawes]

Why would anyone even bring up Eliza Dushku? She doesn't have the resume to be Catwoman. She's not getting the part, period.

[Two-Face]

Eliza Dushku is gorgeous, no doubt. But she can't act her way out of a paper bag. Even when she was SUPPOSED to be hammy and over the top cheesy (Jay and Silent Bob) she failed miserably.



So true.

[namtaB]

Man, no offense, but you add the "Thinks Eliza Dushku would be the best possible Catwoman" line and the picture changes completely.

If I were you, I wouldn't tell your clients, at least.

I said that really? Where?

[Dark Knight]

Man, no offense, but you add the "Thinks Eliza Dushku would be the best possible Catwoman" line and the picture changes completely.

If I were you, I wouldn't tell your clients, at least.



LOL.....Good one...

[Dark Knight]

..and hair color is gonna do that?



Sure.....

[Hole Shot]

I'm sure there's room for Marion to do a French accent in the movie but I was under the impression that she was doing a stereotypically American one. BTW, here's a youtube video of her speaking American English. She's pretty good in spite of her awkward grammar, but that can be fixed if she just recites from a script. Tell me what you think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W76WUvtonX8

I'm not being a smartass, but I did not hear her attempt to speak with an American accent their. She did a little mock Southerner when she said "Montgomery, Alabama" but you could still definitely her the Frog.



I looked Paz up on imdb, and she's a tad horsefaced. We need someone prettier to be Selina. I am not against Selina having a Spanish accent, however. Any foreign accent could add a hint of mystery to her character.


Huh?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c25/avanwey/paz-vega-2008-cannes-film-festival-.jpg



THAT'S INCREDIBLE ^


I'm not really campaigning for Vega, I'm just campaigning against Cottilard because so many here support her and I have no better reason than that. Even though she is one of the better names mentioned here.




We're not talking about Natalie Portman or Keira Knightley here.

Knightley, yes is a WASP. But Portman, is not just Jewish but an Israeli national, you don't get much more non-WASPY than that and you probably just ended up on the IDF & Mossad's watch lists for that statement. But she's still not Catwoman.

Marion Cotillard is inspired casting- she's stunning, super sexy yet mysterious and is one of the finest actresses in the world

See, it's statement like this that have created my vendetta against Cotillard. If you guys didn't love her so much then I probably wouldn't make attempts to tear down and be more supportive or her for the role.


yes, I know. I'm a dick.

[batboy99]

Ugh here we go again.

Eliza should NOT be Catwoman for these movies. SHes not a good enough actress to go head to head with ANY of the cast members, but that benig said, shes not terrible. People make it sound like shes the worst thing ever. Is she great? No, but shes decent. If she couldnt act her way out of a paper bag, she would have ZERO emotion and couldnt deliver lines. Shes not Keanu Reevese here. Even if you have only seen her on Buffy, she shows she can pull off the bad ass, *****,****ty, suductive part fine. She plays bad girls just fine. Shes not a great actress, Im not maknig it seem like she is cuz I know she isnt, but she isnt TERRIBLE! She would totally suck compared ot Nolans cast, but if this were a TV show or something, she would be fine.
I admit,she has her bad moments, but again, shes not terrible. Shes just type cast. She hasnt really had much of a ''role'' beside playing a bad girl. Im sure she could give better performances, if she was offered some more. Dollhouse requires her to play more than one role, so we will see how that works out, but that doesnt mean shes gonna be good enough for the movies, because, well... she isnt.

Bottom line, Eliza shouldnt be Catwoman, at least not for these movies.

[Melkay]

I said that really? Where?

It is implied when you vote at the poll. If you don't think she's the best actress to fit the role, then why vote for her?

It gets really difficult to defend you from the "intellectually impared" thing. Why don't you help me a little bit and tell why did you pick her in the first place?

Don't worry, you can always resort to the electoral debate argument: "Yeah, I know I'm not right... but look at this guy over here..."
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------------>I'm just campaigning against Cottilard because so many here support her and I have no better reason than that.
statement like this that have created my vendetta against Cotillard. If you guys didn't love her so much then I probably wouldn't make attempts to tear down and be more supportive or her for the role.

See... you're actually one bit away from making a complete mess of irrationality.

Portman, is not just Jewish but an Israeli national, you don't get much more non-WASPY than that

There you go! You did it.

Say that to palestinians.
Oh, and Mossad can **** my **** little ****.
:yay: thank you.

[Alex Logan]

One name...

Olga Kurylenko.

[Hole Shot]

See... you're actually one bit away from making a complete mess of irrationality.



There you go! You did it.

Say that to palestinians.
Oh, and Mossad can **** my **** little ****.
:yay: thank you.


Is it really necessary that I put emoticons in posts for people to get my intentions, that there may just be a tad bit of sarcasm in my tone. Me saying that I'm just fighting the Cotillard suggestion just for the sake of fighting it even though it's a good suggestion isn't a clue? Ending a post with, "I'm a dick" not a hint?

One name...

Olga Kurylenko.

Beautiful girl, haven't seen QofS so I have no clue as to what here acting ability is.

[Wedge A.]

I like Beckinsale in the part.

[Laderlappen]

One name...

Olga Kurylenko.Sure, she's bloody Meryl Streep :whatever:
Atleast get an actress that is better than the last one.

[Hole Shot]

Sure, she's bloody Meryl Streep :whatever:
Atleast get an actress that is better than the last one.

Who are you referring to when you mean better than the last one?

[Laderlappen]

Halle.

[Hole Shot]

Halle.


Aw! Thank you and of course I agree (who wouldn't)

[namtaB]

It is implied when you vote at the poll. If you don't think she's the best actress to fit the role, then why vote for her?

It gets really difficult to defend you from the "intellectually impared" thing. Why don't you help me a little bit and tell why did you pick her in the first place?

Don't worry, you can always resort to the electoral debate argument: "Yeah, I know I'm not right... but look at this guy over here..."

Nothing is implied. The poll question says "Who would you choose for the role of Catwoman?" Not who is the best possible catwoman. Therefore, choosing a particular candidate need not be implied to mean its the best possible pick.

I could had just picked her b/c she's hot, b/c I want to be a contrarian, b/c I saw an episode of Buffy today, b/c the sky is freaking blue. All valid reasons for picking her based on the question postulated by this particular poll and there is no evidence proving or disproving one way or another with any certainty why I posted a picture of her and voted for her in this poll.

[Hole Shot]

I could had just picked her b/c she's hot, b/c I want to be a contrarian

HELLZ TO THE YEAH!!!

there's no better logic than that!

[protoctista]

To uhm. Well, I don't know actually, the guy who's an under 30 whatsamajig.

Firstly, I really don't care what you are off these boards. You could come up with anything and I wouldn't be able to refute you. However, I shall say this; if what you say is true - your... stats - then I'm pretty smug, I'll have to admit - A smugness increased not least because you have so far lacked any demonstration of the capability to unload intellectual armageddon (That's not an insult - if anything, it's an encouragement for the promised fireworks to begin, it'll be fun).



I challenged anyone to provide me a detailed proposition for Dushku's casting as catwoman. I got two photos.


Which naturally leads me to assume that those people who voted for Dushku, voted primarily on her physicality.

Prove me wrong, please, because her resume doesn't.


Someone said she expanded her range in Tru Calling...

:huh::huh::huh::huh:

If this is an expansion of her 'talents' I truly fear for the performances prior that I have not seen. She redefines wooden.



She also looks like a 12 year old. The photo of her in the dress looks like a teen wearing her mom's clothes and make up. Her face is also unnatractive.



Eliza Dushku is 28.
But tell me, who looks older?


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The second photo is of
Imogen Poots. 19.








Lets compare stats that can't be denied.


Dushku;
Career consists of TV roles in series aimed at teenage girls. Despite this kind of career usually resulting in a string of practically worthless awards (Nickelodeen Choice Awards... Teen Choice Awards... etc), Dushku has been nominated twice in obscure awards. Compare her to someone of a similar career in TV - Sarah Michelle Gellar, who has been nominated 25 times in such trite awards shows, and we can't really say that her TV career is particularly successful.

Film wise she has achieved zilch.



Cotillard;
Massive cult following in France, a strong career in indie films that have won her a small following.

Break through unto the American scene with 'A Good Year' - regardless of what she achieved with that role, it's an achievement in itself.

Massive success, the whole world heaping praise on her for the instantly classic performance she delivers in La Vie En Rose. Best Actress oscar, critical darling.

Has the potential to become a small star if her performance in Public Enemies holds her own. She's now effectively got the potential to build up an American indie resume - and if that goes well (and there's no reason why it shouldn't) she'll get to the point Ledger was at prior to The Dark Knight (ready for big leading roles).




But even if you accept that Dushku isn't as good as Cotillard, but still think she's good (after all, it's a harsh comparism to form an antithesis) - look at who she'll be against were all hell to freeze the colour of lavender and she landed the role of Catwoman.

Nolan's batman franchise has arguably the most talented ensemble in any blockbuster movie ever.

Each actor has a prolific filmography outside of the franchise and have won awards for their work in cinema.

Each actor has media gravitas, individual fan following (cinema fans), and critical acclaim pandering to their every move.

On top of that she's effectively filling the shoes of Heath Ledger.






How can ANYONE. Regardless of career, age of orientation, believe that Eliza Dushku is even worth mentioning in this discussion with the above restrictions?



Removing subjectivity from the picture,
She has not got the 'weight' to handle her own in this kind of ball game.

And by weight I mean:
- Critical acclaim
- A decent filmography. Scrap that, A filmography. At all.
- A name that people might not necessarily instantly know, but at least become intrigued about.
- Any awards
- Garunteed financial return. (She's not bankable).









There I countered your argument even though you didn't come up with one.

[regwec]

Yeah well, those actresses are top notch and I don't think Nolan will be going with an average C-D list actress. He will go after the best of the best and the best of the best may go after the role themselves.

We should shorten our suggestions to GOOD to GREAT actresses and eliminate C-D listers.

You are confusing fame with ability. If all casting decisions where made on that basis, the "A-B" list which you seem to rate so highly would never be replenished with new blood.

And there are lots of fine actresses around who didn't make your little list.

[TLH]

I like Beckinsale in the part.

Agreed. She looks exactly like the Selina Kyle from the Loeb/Sale works.

[namtaB]

A smugness increased not least because you have so far lacked any demonstration of the capability to unload intellectual armageddon (That's not an insult - if anything, it's an encouragement for the promised fireworks to begin, it'll be fun).

I don't come here for that. I read some things here and there, make some posts and that's it. I know there are quite a few posters here who engage in long debates back and forth breaking down arguments and statements into their finest minutiae. IMO unless its a paying client or you're doing it for an academic reason, it seems like a massive waste of time. But I'm glad you're feeling smug.

[RachelDawes]

I'm not being a smartass, but I did not hear her attempt to speak with an American accent their. She did a little mock Southerner when she said "Montgomery, Alabama" but you could still definitely her the Frog.

Well, she sounded pretty American to me, though her accent did have a bad tendency to go in and out. Anyway, that's what her English sounded like about a year ago and I thought she sounded good even if she does need a little practice.

Huh?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c25/avanwey/paz-vega-2008-cannes-film-festival-.jpg



THAT'S INCREDIBLE ^

That's one of her best pictures, there's no doubt. When I first saw her imdb profile pic I thought "Wow, she's gorgeous!" When I looked through her imdb gallery though I realized that she can look horsefaced from certain angles. We'll just have to agree to disagree in regards to her looks. :word:


I'm not really campaigning for Vega, I'm just campaigning against Cottilard because so many here support her and I have no better reason than that. Even though she is one of the better names mentioned here.

I can understand. I get so tired of seeing certain actors and actresses suggested for every role that I end up hating those actors even if it's not their fault that their names keep popping up everywhere.

Knightley, yes is a WASP. But Portman, is not just Jewish but an Israeli national, you don't get much more non-WASPY than that and you probably just ended up on the IDF & Mossad's watch lists for that statement. But she's still not Catwoman.

Portman may not be a WASP ethnically but she definitely is in her physical appearance. You can walk into any suburb in America and find girls who look like her.

[Hole Shot]

Portman may not be a WASP ethnically but she definitely is in her physical appearance. You can walk into any suburb in America and find girls who look like her.

I only disagree with you here. Because I'm a real superficial Southern California Irish Catholic ass who's closest friends are Jews so when I don't see WASP in Portman I can't possibly be wrong!:cwink:


and disagree on Paz being horsefaced.

When I think of Horsefaces, even though I still think they're still beautiful women, I think more Liv Tyler or Jessica Biel. Longer faces, big lips, big teeth. I don't see that in my Spanish Vixen.



Other than that, Ms. Dawes, you're very cool. You know I'm just trying to get a reaction but still respond to me rationally and with reason. Got to respect that!

[Hunter Rider]

This whole line of approach needs dropping.

[Timstuff]

Even though Beckinsale is my top choice for Catwoman, Collitard seems very much like the kind of actress that Nolan would fancy for the role, and she would definitely bring plenty of class to the part. She's very talented and has a good deal of indie cred, much like the rest of Nolan's ensemble cast. My only real concern with her would be the fact that I haven't gotten a chance to hear her attempt an American accent. It's not like I wouldn't be able to stand Catwoman having a French-ish accent, but it would be a bit of a departure from her character since she's supposed to be a Gotham native.

[flickchick85]

Even though Beckinsale is my top choice for Catwoman, Collitard seems very much like the kind of actress that Nolan would fancy for the role, and she would definitely bring plenty of class to the part. She's very talented and has a good deal of indie cred, much like the rest of Nolan's ensemble cast. My only real concern with her would be the fact that I haven't gotten a chance to hear her attempt an American accent. It's not like I wouldn't be able to stand Catwoman having a French-ish accent, but it would be a bit of a departure from her character since she's supposed to be a Gotham native.
There's also the option that Selina adopted the accent when entering Gotham's high society in order to cover up her past "on the streets." I'm not advocating that one, as I'm in the dual-accent camp and think Cotillard would be able pull off an American accent, but I'm just pointing out that the option is there.

[Timstuff]

I actually considered that option too, and while I'd prefer Selina be presented closely to her comic counterpart, I actually think it would work quite well for her character. When she goes out as Selina, she has a sophisticated French accent, and everyone thinks she's a wealthy heiress from Europe. However, when she goes out as Catwoman, she uses her native accent, a long with a bit of Batman-style trickery to give her voice a more dark and sultry tone. Again, I'm not advocating, but it's at least an option if they have to work around Collitard's accent.

[Hole Shot]

This whole line of approach needs dropping.

Sorry Sir. I'm just getting a little restless waiting for some actual news to happen and have resorted to entertaining myself. I'll stop.


I took what I saw at face value, considering that you may have been sincere. After all, how many other reasons would have anyone here to campaign against Cotillard? Being a dick sounded right for me.

:heart:

all good in the hood

[Alex Logan]

Beautiful girl, haven't seen QofS so I have no clue as to what here acting ability is.

I thought she good... and yes she is. :woot:

Sure, she's bloody Meryl Streep :whatever:
Atleast get an actress that is better than the last one.

I'm not going to get into discussion over acting ability with you. I've had the displeasure of reading though this thread and the last one even before I was a member of this board and I'm not getting to get into "verbal fisticuffs" over it.

The reality is that discussion has become very stangnet and what most people here don't even realise is that we're talking about opinion. You may not like mine and I may not like yours, but there's no need to act as if you or your ideas are better. Now, I think I'll leave you with a qoute, one that a very wise woman once told me:

"If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

[Melkay]

There's also the option that Selina adopted the accent when entering Gotham's high society in order to cover up her past "on the streets." I'm not advocating that one, as I'm in the dual-accent camp and think Cotillard would be able pull off an American accent, but I'm just pointing out that the option is there.
I actually considered that option too, and while I'd prefer Selina be presented closely to her comic counterpart, I actually think it would work quite well for her character. When she goes out as Selina, she has a sophisticated French accent, and everyone thinks she's a wealthy heiress from Europe. However, when she goes out as Catwoman, she uses her native accent, a long with a bit of Batman-style trickery to give her voice a more dark and sultry tone. Again, I'm not advocating, but it's at least an option if they have to work around Collitard's accent.

Great, grea, great idea. Very interesting. It could work.

[Laderlappen]

I'm not going to get into discussion over acting ability with you. I've had the displeasure of reading though this thread and the last one even before I was a member of this board and I'm not getting to get into "verbal fisticuffs" over it.

The reality is that discussion has become very stangnet and what most people here don't even realise is that we're talking about opinion. You may not like mine and I may not like yours, but there's no need to act as if you or your ideas are better. Now, I think I'll leave you with a qoute, one that a very wise woman once told me:

"If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."I have a very hard time believing that you saw her in the bond movie or hitman or whatever you've seen her in and thought for yourself 'Wow she is an amazing actress! Why didnt she win an oscar for this? This is one of the best acting performance I've seen in a long time. She completely disappear into character in the way Cate Blanchett does'.

[jmc]

I actually considered that option too, and while I'd prefer Selina be presented closely to her comic counterpart, I actually think it would work quite well for her character. When she goes out as Selina, she has a sophisticated French accent, and everyone thinks she's a wealthy heiress from Europe. However, when she goes out as Catwoman, she uses her native accent, a long with a bit of Batman-style trickery to give her voice a more dark and sultry tone. Again, I'm not advocating, but it's at least an option if they have to work around Collitard's accent.

I can't see how the alteration of nationality would have any real adverse effect on the character, if anything it probably makes more sense within the context of the Nolan series that Catwoman comes from outside of Gotham. Really, the duel accented idea which has been floated around a bit here is actually no different from Bruce's alternate voice as Batman.

[namtaB]

I'm not going to get into discussion over acting ability with you. I've had the displeasure of reading though this thread and the last one even before I was a member of this board and I'm not getting to get into "verbal fisticuffs" over it.

The reality is that discussion has become very stangnet and what most people here don't even realise is that we're talking about opinion. You may not like mine and I may not like yours, but there's no need to act as if you or your ideas are better. Now, I think I'll leave you with a qoute, one that a very wise woman once told me:

"If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

How can you not be having fun here? Its got everything. Even paperback psychology. Its hilarious and entertaining.

[Hunter Rider]

Sorry Sir. I'm just getting a little restless waiting for some actual news to happen and have resorted to entertaining myself. I'll stop.



No worries, it wasn't directed at you but at the person who's post I deleted.

[Dark Knight]

You are confusing fame with ability. If all casting decisions where made on that basis, the "A-B" list which you seem to rate so highly would never be replenished with new blood.

And there are lots of fine actresses around who didn't make your little list.



There is nothing confusing about what I said actually.

[Alex Logan]

I have a very hard time believing that you saw her in the bond movie or hitman or whatever you've seen her in and thought for yourself 'Wow she is an amazing actress! Why didnt she win an oscar for this? This is one of the best acting performance I've seen in a long time. She completely disappear into character in the way Cate Blanchett does'.

You've proved my point even further. Instead of taking the high road and saying something like "Fair enough, to each his own." Or "We can agree to disagree." you sink even lower by trying to compare my choice to someone else that you think is worthy of the role. This thread is not all about you sir, however, it is about the opinions and idea of each person who choose to post here.

Further more, this idea that only an Oscar winner can play this role is preposterous. There are many talented actresses who have never won an Oscar that could still play the hell out of this thing if given the chance. Olga may not be the one, but you don't need to role your eyes at me just because you don't like her.

Its got everything. Even paperback psychology. Its hilarious and entertaining.

This is true.

[Quinzel]

I still say Rachel W.
And Paul BEttany as Riddler.
And God Forbid they re-cast Mistah J, but if they do, Guy Pierce.

[Laderlappen]

You've proved my point even further. Instead of taking the high road and saying something like "Fair enough, to each his own." Or "We can agree to disagree." you sink even lower by trying to compare my choice to someone else that you think is worthy of the role. This thread is not all about you sir, however, it is about the opinions and idea of each person who choose to post here.Im not bashing you because of your opinion. I'm accusing you for either trolling, or basing your suggestion on something other than talent. I dont think you actually think of all actresess in hollywood, this one would be the one that would do the best acting performance of them all as this character.

Further more, this idea that only an Oscar winner can play this role is preposterous. There are many talented actresses who have never won an Oscar that could still play the hell out of this thing if given the chance. Olga may not be the one, but you don't need to role your eyes at me just because you don't like her.
Atleast an oscar nominating-worthy performance. Or atleast somone that has made a drama. When somebody suggest an actor that has only done nothing roles in acerage action films, I roll my eyes.
BTW, I was over-doing my post. I thought it was pretty obvious. Cate Blanchett was just because she's often reffered to the best actress of our times. It had nothing to do with me wanting her for Catwoman.

[Alex Logan]

Im not bashing you because of your opinion. I'm accusing you for either trolling, or basing your suggestion on something other than talent. I dont think you actually think of all actresess in hollywood, this one would be the one that would do the best acting performance of them all as this character.

Atleast an oscar nominating-worthy performance. Or atleast somone that has made a drama. When somebody suggest an actor that has only done nothing roles in acerage action films, I roll my eyes. BTW, I was over-doing my post. I thought it was pretty obvious. Cate Blanchett was just because she's often reffered to the best actress of our times. It had nothing to do with me wanting her for Catwoman.

Right, because we've only talked a hundred times in the past, therefore, you must know me inside and out. Clearly, you and I are on completely different levels so here's something I know you'll understand: :whatever:

[Majik1387]

I still say Rachel W.
And Paul BEttany as Riddler.
And God Forbid they re-cast Mistah J, but if they do, Guy Pierce.
No...

[Ethermatic]

Atleast an oscar nominating-worthy performance. Or atleast somone that has made a drama. When somebody suggest an actor that has only done nothing roles in acerage action films, I roll my eyes.

To be fair, Gary Oldman has never been nominated for an Academy Award. Which is certainly a crime, by the way. He also never played such a virtuous character until playing Gordon. Denzel Washington had never played a villain until Training Day. Neither had Liam Neeson until Batman Begins. Christian Bale, the lead actor in these films, hasn't been nominated for any awards that are terribly prestigious.

To be fair to my above comment, those actors had been established long before taking on roles that were somewhat or completely new to them. But I'm also of the belief that you have to start somewhere. Hell, Johnny Depp was on 21 Jump Street and Leonardo DiCaprio was on Growing Pains. Will Smith was a rapper. What of reference or importance was Hugh Jackman in before X-Men? Actors and actresses learn, grow and expand over time.

While I'm not on Olga Kurylenko's side to be Selina Kyle/Catwoman, I'm sure as hell not requiring an Oscar winning or nominated actress, either. Nor am I requiring that their filmography be flawless. Hell, Ledger started out in a teen film. Even during his nomination for Brokeback Mountain, he still did films like Casanova and The Brother's Grimm.

You guys need to give people a chance sometimes, I think. Or, at least, look at their own performances within a good or bad film as opposed to the film itself. I'm not talking to everyone here, just to those I see who let such high standards ruin the potential that some, not all, may have.

But, of course, this is just my opinion.

[Alex Logan]

To be fair, Gary Oldman has never been nominated for an Academy Award. Which is certainly a crime, by the way. He also never played such a virtuous character until playing Gordon. Denzel Washington had never played a villain until Training Day. Neither had Liam Neeson until Batman Begins. Christian Bale, the lead actor in these films, hasn't been nominated for any awards that are terribly prestigious.

To be fair to my above comment, those actors had been established long before taking on roles that were somewhat or completely new to them. But I'm also of the belief that you have to start somewhere. Hell, Johnny Depp was on 21 Jump Street and Leonardo DiCaprio was on Growing Pains. Will Smith was a rapper. What of reference or importance was Hugh Jackman in before X-Men? Actors and actresses learn, grow and expand over time.

While I'm not on Olga Kurylenko's side to be Selina Kyle/Catwoman, I'm sure as hell not requiring an Oscar winning or nominated actress, either. Nor am I requiring that their filmography be flawless. Hell, Ledger started out in a teen film. Even during his nomination for Brokeback Mountain, he still did films like Casanova and The Brother's Grimm.

You guys need to give people a chance sometimes, I think. Or, at least, look at their own performances within a good or bad film as opposed to the film itself. I'm not talking to everyone here, just to those I see who let such high standards ruin the potential that some, not all, may have.

But, of course, this is just my opinion.

I couldn't have put it better myself. :applaud

[Wesley Dodds]

I still say Rachel W.
And Paul BEttany as Riddler.
And God Forbid they re-cast Mistah J, but if they do, Guy Pierce.

If they have to recast the character it has gotta be Michael Pitt

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[Majik1387]

To be fair, Gary Oldman has never been nominated for an Academy Award. Which is certainly a crime, by the way. He also never played such a virtuous character until playing Gordon. Denzel Washington had never played a villain until Training Day. Neither had Liam Neeson until Batman Begins. Christian Bale, the lead actor in these films, hasn't been nominated for any awards that are terribly prestigious.

To be fair to my above comment, those actors had been established long before taking on roles that were somewhat or completely new to them. But I'm also of the belief that you have to start somewhere. Hell, Johnny Depp was on 21 Jump Street and Leonardo DiCaprio was on Growing Pains. Will Smith was a rapper. What of reference or importance was Hugh Jackman in before X-Men? Actors and actresses learn, grow and expand over time.

While I'm not on Olga Kurylenko's side to be Selina Kyle/Catwoman, I'm sure as hell not requiring an Oscar winning or nominated actress, either. Nor am I requiring that their filmography be flawless. Hell, Ledger started out in a teen film. Even during his nomination for Brokeback Mountain, he still did films like Casanova and The Brother's Grimm.

You guys need to give people a chance sometimes, I think. Or, at least, look at their own performances within a good or bad film as opposed to the film itself. I'm not talking to everyone here, just to those I see who let such high standards ruin the potential that some, not all, may have.
tally ageed.
But, of course, this is just my opinion.

I couldn't have put it better myself. :applaud
Totally agreed
If they have to recast the character it has gotta be Michael Pitt

No.

[Alex Logan]

If they have to recast the character it has gotta be Michael Pitt

http://xs134.xs.to/xs134/08522/6a00d83451b77e69e200e54f76ed3d8833-800wi496.jpg

As the Joker? No, Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I really don't think it matters though, I have a feeling the director will do something new and fresh, which is why we're discussing CATWOMAN!

You like that? Nice redirect huh?

[[A]]

Hmm why turn Batman into an overrated-teenage-movie-with-a-message..? :hehe: just kidding.. I think he lives in Van San't basement

[batboy99]

Elgato did it, so I'll do it too

Marion,Jolie, and Theron are self explanitory and I think most know my views on Blanchett, but if you do'nt, I'll be happy to explain :)
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/catwomen_00.jpg

[DarknessOfDeath]

Elgato did it, so I'll do it too

Marion,Jolie, and Theron are self explanitory and I think most know my views on Blanchett, but if you do'nt, I'll be happy to explain :)
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/catwomen_00.jpg


Marion eh? hmm she looks familiar. She looks an awful lot like Liz Hurley...lol. Well either way I'd be happy with one or the other. I don't care who Nolan picks but please don't run me over, Jolie would make an interesting catwoman or Poison Ivy.

[batboy99]

Jolie has more of a Catwoman presence to me, but Id be happy either way. But i prefer Emily Blunt or Christina Hendricks for Ivy.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Jolie has more of a Catwoman presence to me, but Id be happy either way. But i prefer Emily Blunt or Christina Hendricks for Ivy.


*rubs his nose* hmm... still I think she could pull it off.

[batboy99]

Im sure she can, but she would just fit Catwoman better. Id be happy if she was ivy, but all Id be thinking is ,''Man,this looks like Catwoman trying to be Ivy...''

[Cunning Stunts]

As the Joker? No, Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I really don't think it matters though, I have a feeling the director will do something new and fresh, which is why we're discussing CATWOMAN!

You like that? Nice redirect huh?

Let me guess, you want Levitt because he's a Ledger look-alike?

[Hole Shot]

I really don't think there are many people out there that would disagree Angelina Jolie wouldn't make a fabulous Catwoman/Selina. Looks, acting ability, presence, she's got the whole package for the part. And we can talk and talk and talk about it for days.

But the reality is that I don't think she gets in the film because she is one of the biggest celebrities on the planet and don't think that fits in a series that's built on the story and the characters as opposed to who is starring in it.

[Alex Logan]

Let me guess, you want Levitt because he's a Ledger look-alike?

Yes, but he's also a great actor.

[batboy99]

I totally get where people are coming from with the too big a celeb thing, but they need to give it up. Shes mostly in the media for doing something good, not for shaving her head or going crazy. Its like throwing something perfect away.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well as long as the damn media doesn't blow things out of porportion as they always do every week/per magazine, and seriously though, I hate the paps. What they do is they take an existing story, take it a part, make up parts and add to it and pretty much allows the reader to fall for it. Me, naw. I say its all bull - especially with the lame-ass stories that are redundant and get plasterized on every single cover of magazines. If thats how they want to live their life, well... all I can say is that I am happy I don't live the way they do.

Anyhow... my point is and don't mind that I was a bit critical earlier, Batboy is right. I, honestly don't care who is way up there and I don't categorize them using the alphabet. I just don't cause there are a lot of decent actors and actresses out in the entertainment industry who are very good at what they do. Like I said, I could care less who plays who and that would be the end of this conversation.

[Laderlappen]

To be fair, Gary Oldman has never been nominated for an Academy Award. Which is certainly a crime, by the way. He also never played such a virtuous character until playing Gordon. Denzel Washington had never played a villain until Training Day. Neither had Liam Neeson until Batman Begins. Christian Bale, the lead actor in these films, hasn't been nominated for any awards that are terribly prestigious.

To be fair to my above comment, those actors had been established long before taking on roles that were somewhat or completely new to them. But I'm also of the belief that you have to start somewhere. Hell, Johnny Depp was on 21 Jump Street and Leonardo DiCaprio was on Growing Pains. Will Smith was a rapper. What of reference or importance was Hugh Jackman in before X-Men? Actors and actresses learn, grow and expand over time.

While I'm not on Olga Kurylenko's side to be Selina Kyle/Catwoman, I'm sure as hell not requiring an Oscar winning or nominated actress, either. Nor am I requiring that their filmography be flawless. Hell, Ledger started out in a teen film. Even during his nomination for Brokeback Mountain, he still did films like Casanova and The Brother's Grimm.

You guys need to give people a chance sometimes, I think. Or, at least, look at their own performances within a good or bad film as opposed to the film itself. I'm not talking to everyone here, just to those I see who let such high standards ruin the potential that some, not all, may have.

But, of course, this is just my opinion.I dont require a oscar nominated actor because oscars are not relevant because they are often wrong like with Gary Oldman. BUT he has made several performances worthy of a nomination atleast. Every main actor in BB & TDK has minus Katie.
Yes every actor starts at the bottom. But take the actors you mentioned, none of them went from being a nobody to the lead in an ensemble film.
Nolan has gotten some of the biggest actors in the world. Why get an actress that hasnt proved herself? If you cast somebody because of the reason 'everybody have to start somewhere' you can just as much cast any person in the world including you and me. There's no proof that none of us are gonna be great in a role, but just like Olga the odds are against us, and its pretty idiotic to not get a better actor when there are and there ARE.

[Doctor Jones]

Yes, but he's also a great actor.

NO!!! No Joker in the next one. No casting a dude who even looks like Heath. Heath made it his own. It would be stupid to cast him because of that. If I'm gonna see a different Joker, which I don't, make it his own.

No Joker in the next one and no recast.

He did what he set out to do, like a demon, he came into the film with no explantion, and he goes out without any either. He served his purpose. Now he can dispaear.

If you see him in Arkham it's like containing a human being. He's not a human being. He's like an entity, a force that can't be captured. He slips away like a ghost. Hence the blowing up MCU and escaping.

[COMPO]

yeah i have to agree with him on the joker thing. But in terms of Catwoman, the actress should be flexible and have been in some sort of action role before hand. Sarah Michelle gellar would be a good catwoman but can't see her as selina whereas Angelina Jolie would be a good both, in Mr and Mrs Smith she looked gorgeous in that long dress and I could believe her as a society person and she can work the skintight as seen in Lara Croft.

[GlasgowBat]

i'm actually flipping between jolie and theron..............


(now there's a thought.........)

[Two-Face]

i'm actually flipping between jolie and theron..............


(now there's a thought.........)


Jolie.....?


http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/angelina-jolie-leaves-st-john-nc.jpg

[Two-Face]

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[namtaB]

It would be amusing if Nolan broke his trend and actually went with a popular A lister like Jolie.

[Laderlappen]

NO!!! No Joker in the next one. No casting a dude who even looks like Heath. Heath made it his own. It would be stupid to cast him because of that. If I'm gonna see a different Joker, which I don't, make it his own.

No Joker in the next one and no recast.

He did what he set out to do, like a demon, he came into the film with no explantion, and he goes out without any either. He served his purpose. Now he can dispaear.

If you see him in Arkham it's like containing a human being. He's not a human being. He's like an entity, a force that can't be captured. He slips away like a ghost. Hence the blowing up MCU and escaping.Exactly. And nobody would be stupid enough to take the role. And Nolan wouldnt be stupid enought to recast a character just for the saké of having him there.

[Two-Face]

It would be amusing if Nolan broke his trend and actually went with a popular A lister like Jolie.


And Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Liam Neeson and Gary Oldman ain't A listers?:oldrazz:

[Brian Braddock]

Please God, let's not begin all that again. It's been done over and over and over ................:csad:

[Two-Face]

Please God, let's not begin all that again. It's been done over and over and over ................



Just stating the obvious, you don't have to take part.:yay:

[Laderlappen]

I think he means in terms of fame, not talent.

[Brian Braddock]

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[Brian Braddock]

Just stating the obvious, you don't have to take part.:yay:

Ah good;

Thanks.

:D

[Ethermatic]

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff334/a_avelar/70.jpg

As usual, it's Eva Green for me.

[namtaB]

^ Another great contender.

[Two-Face]

She's Talia for me, not Selina but I wouldn't mind.


No hotlinking here BTW.

[namtaB]

And Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Liam Neeson and Gary Oldman ain't A listers?:oldrazz:

What I mean is they aren't the A listers that are constantly under public scrutiny. The public and press seem to love certain A listers over others. Jolie, Clooney, Pitt, Roberts, et cetera.

[Brian Braddock]

A-listers in terms of exposure etc.

[Ethermatic]

While I don't mind A-List celebrities and have nothing against Angelina Jolie, I'm just more into Eva Green for the role, really. If Jolie got the role, it's not like I still wouldn't watch the film multiple times. Unless it's disappointing like Spider-Man 3.

[Melkay]

One genuine, non-rethoric question: Why Eva Green?

Only answer I won't pay attention to: "Why not?"

[batboy99]

Ok, I know im gonna get kicked in the ass for this suggestion and I know shes young, but... Scarlett Johansson.
Ok, she's blonde and she doesnt look EXACTLY like how Selina does, but with the right makeup she can have those Catlike eyes...
http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/photo.php?id=scarlett_johansson_costume_2_big&title=Scarlett%20Johansson%20Costume%20Gala%20Even t

She has a nice body, her boobs might be a ltitle big, but whos complaining? And she isnt the BEST actress and her last few movies havent been grea,t but I think shes capable. I know shes too young for Bale, but maybe in the future?

Now, I dont expect people to go for this suggestion, but that's ok.

[Alex Logan]

NO!!! No Joker in the next one. No casting a dude who even looks like Heath. Heath made it his own. It would be stupid to cast him because of that. If I'm gonna see a different Joker, which I don't, make it his own.

No Joker in the next one and no recast.

He did what he set out to do, like a demon, he came into the film with no explantion, and he goes out without any either. He served his purpose. Now he can dispaear.

If you see him in Arkham it's like containing a human being. He's not a human being. He's like an entity, a force that can't be captured. He slips away like a ghost. Hence the blowing up MCU and escaping.

I think you misunderstood. Someone brought up the subject and mentioned an actor so I gave me two cents about his choice.

I don't want the Joker in the next film and I don't want him to be recast either. I want something new and I think that's what Chris Nolan will want too.

[StorminNorman]

Ok, I know im gonna get kicked in the ass for this suggestion and I know shes young, but... Scarlett Johansson.
Ok, she's blonde and she doesnt look EXACTLY like how Selina does, but with the right makeup she can have those Catlike eyes...
http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/photo.php?id=scarlett_johansson_costume_2_big&title=Scarlett%20Johansson%20Costume%20Gala%20Even t

She has a nice body, her boobs might be a ltitle big, but whos complaining? And she isnt the BEST actress and her last few movies havent been grea,t but I think shes capable. I know shes too young for Bale, but maybe in the future?

Now, I dont expect people to go for this suggestion, but that's ok.

Have you seen the Prestige?

[batboy99]

Yeah, I was just saying that in terms of age. Do you think she would look good next to bale?
And beofre anyone says anything, yeah, she was bad in the prestige, but she didnt have much of a role either, to be fair.

[StorminNorman]

Oh I think she was fine in the Prestige, but I think that movie show that Scarlett ooks just fine next to Bale or even an older looking actor still in Jackman.

[batboy99]

I guess you're right. Plus, Bale in the Batman movies looks younger.

StorminNorman, what do you think of her as Catwoman? Maybe not for this series, but just for the role in general?

[StorminNorman]

I think she would be the most faithful Catwoman of the actresses listed.

Dye her hair, though.

[batboy99]

Really? Wow, Im not alone! :D So, i guess thats something we can both agree on man. Im definetly liking her more and I saw one part of her in the Spirit and it looks like shes trying in the role so thats good.

[Ethermatic]

Personally, I can't imagine Scarlett Johansson as Selina Kyle/Catwoman. I think she's beautiful, sexy and a capable actress. But I just don't see it. I'd prefer someone a tad taller, for certain. As curvy as she is, I'd prefer someone a bit more slender, also. If it were to happen, I certainly wouldn't complain, of course. But at this moment, I just don't see it.

And Melkay, I'll be getting back to you with my thoughts on Eva Green. I want it to be thorough and detailed to some extent and I don't really have the time to start it with Christmas Eve and Christmas Day tomorrow.

[Melkay]

I still think The Prestige is the best Christopher Nolan film I've ever seen.

But Scarlett Johansson had nothing to do with that. She's a good actress, but not in every film.

[Laderlappen]

Yeah, that one of the weakest performances I've seen of her.

[Quinzel]

I think it was just the accent that got her. idk.

[Hole Shot]

And Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Liam Neeson and Gary Oldman ain't A listers?:oldrazz:

Morgan Freeman and Caine, yes, but they're older and no one cares what they do on their own time. Neeson has some star power but the world wouldn't notice if he fell off the face of the earth. And Oldman is a mega star amongst movie buffs that goes unnoticed amongst normal people. I decided though that on Christmas Day, that everyone's suggestion and ideas for Catwoman suck. And none of them will be cast to play Catwoman by Nolan should she be in this film. :cmad:

[Quinzel]

Morgan Freeman and Caine, yes, but they're older and no one cares what they do on their own time. Neeson has some star power but the world wouldn't notice if he fell off the face of the earth. And Oldman is a mega star amongst movie buffs that goes unnoticed amongst normal people.

That's why, even though i like johnny depp, i dont wanna see him in these movies.

[Hole Shot]

But i prefer Emily Blunt or Christina Hendricks for Ivy.

Because Hendricks is a redhead and Blunt has played a redhead. This is why casting threads are the Internet at it's bat**** craziest. I'll guarantee without even looking, in fact I'll bet cash money that Donna from that 70's show has been suggested to play Ivy in that thread.

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[Adrian89]

If I had to choose from those, I'd say Rebecca Romijn or Jessica Biel, I'm not sure though. But I'm sure they will choose the right actress to play Catwoman when the time comes, after all they know best!
As for Angelina Jolie as Catwoman maybe, she has the sensuality of Selina, I don't think she would be the right one to play her though and regarding Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman I loled, but I'm not surprised she is leading on a forum where the majority of members are horny teenagers (no offense intented, but it's just wrong imo! Maybe I admire a Playmate or a very good looking girl, but that doesn't mean I would choose her as the president for example).

[Crook]

If I had to choose from those, I'd say Rebecca Romijn or Jessica Biel, I'm not sure though. But I'm sure they will choose the right actress to play Catwoman when the time comes, after all they know best!
As for Angelina Jolie as Catwoman maybe, she has the sensuality of Selina, I don't think she would be the right one to play her though and regarding Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman I loled, but I'm not surprised she is leading on a forum where the majority of members are horny teenagers (no offense intented, but it's just wrong imo! Maybe I admire a Playmate or a very good looking girl, but that doesn't mean I would choose her as the president for example).
Congrats. You look like a hypocrite.

[Laderlappen]

Yeah speaking from someone that have bashed the Beckinsale suggestion a number of times, she's Meryl Streep compared to Jessica Biel and Rebecca Romijn. 2 of the possibly worst actresses in hollywood.

[StorminNorman]

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a fantastic example of Hyperbole. ^

[flickchick85]

Well, if he were to add the word "famous" to that sentence, it would no longer be hyperbole, but spot on. At least, with Biel. I'm not really sure about Romijn, haven't seen her in enough. But I don't think it's exaggeration AT ALL to say that Jessica Biel is one of the worst famous actresses in Hollywood. And yes, Beckinsale suddenly looks like Meryl Streep in comparison.

[batboy99]

Because Hendricks is a redhead and Blunt has played a redhead. This is why casting threads are the Internet at it's bat**** craziest. I'll guarantee without even looking, in fact I'll bet cash money that Donna from that 70's show has been suggested to play Ivy in that thread.

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You're quite wrong actually. Im not one of those people. I could care less if they're redheads or not. Both are good actresses, cna hold thier own in a movie/tv show, both are beautiful, and both fit the bill of Ivy. They both have a seductive look to them, especially Blunt. She has that *****y look to her that firs Ivy. It doesnt hurt though that they are redheads/ played redheads. TBH, I dont care about the actresses hair colour. Whether shes blond, brunette, redhead etc. As lnog as she fits the role. In this case, the two that I think fit the role the best for me are redheads. My third choice isnt even a redhead, shes blonde(Winslet).
Next time, please dont assume things like that. Thank you.
(Im saying this in the nicest way possible, so Im not being pissy or anything)

[StorminNorman]

Well, if he were to add the word "famous" to that sentence, it would no longer be hyperbole, but spot on. At least, with Biel. I'm not really sure about Romijn, haven't seen her in enough. But I don't think it's exaggeration AT ALL to say that Jessica Biel is one of the worst famous actresses in Hollywood. And yes, Beckinsale suddenly looks like Meryl Streep in comparison.


Biel and Beckinsale are on a very similar level, IMO.

[Hole Shot]

Next time, please dont assume things like that. Thank you.
(Im saying this in the nicest way possible, so Im not being pissy or anything)


It's Christmas so I can do whatever I want.:cwink:

[Two-Face]

If I had to choose from those, I'd say Rebecca Romijn or Jessica Biel, I'm not sure though. But I'm sure they will choose the right actress to play Catwoman when the time comes, after all they know best!
As for Angelina Jolie as Catwoman maybe, she has the sensuality of Selina, I don't think she would be the right one to play her though and regarding Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman I loled, but I'm not surprised she is leading on a forum where the majority of members are horny teenagers (no offense intented, but it's just wrong imo! Maybe I admire a Playmate or a very good looking girl, but that doesn't mean I would choose her as the president for example).




I like Jolie & Beckinsale as Selina I'm not even teenager I'm a 25 year old man.....

[batboy99]

Wow, rude much?


Lol jk.


Merry Christmas everyone!

[Adrian89]

Haha, but I never said EVERYONE Two-Face!

Merry X-Mas!

[Hole Shot]

Wow, rude much?


Yup.:woot:



Merry Christmas everyone!


And the same to you!

[Quinzel]

Happy Christmahannakwanzaka everyone!!!

Much love.

[Melkay]

Did someone drop a cute-bomb in here? This is sickening, I almost miss the Cher rumors. Get back in line, everybody! Wanna celebrate Christmas? Post pictures of sexy celebrities in santa's costumes, then we can celebrate.

I'm feeling like Scrooge here.

[Hole Shot]

Did someone drop a cute-bomb in here? This is sickening, I almost miss the Cher rumors. Get back in line, everybody! Wanna celebrate Christmas? Post pictures of sexy celebrities in santa's costumes, then we can celebrate.

I'm feeling like Scrooge here.

Well if you go back you'll find the catalyst to holiday cheer was me acting like a dick :oldrazz:
Merry Christmas*gives Melkay manly Christmas hug*

[Melkay]

Merry Christmas*gives Melkay manly Christmas hug*

Vade retro, Satan!

[Two-Face]

Did someone drop a cute-bomb in here? This is sickening, I almost miss the Cher rumors. Get back in line, everybody! Wanna celebrate Christmas? Post pictures of sexy celebrities in santa's costumes, then we can celebrate.

I'm feeling like Scrooge here.


I know this is not a celeb Santa costume BUT.....
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/catwoman-3.jpg

[Crook]

C'mon. You can do much ****tier than that. :o

[Hole Shot]

Vade retro, Satan!


Pacem in Terris!

That's Latin, darlin'. Evidently Mr. Melkay's an educated man. Now I really hate him.:cmad:
I don't really hate you, just needed to finish the quote:woot:P.S.MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

Wanna celebrate Christmas? Post pictures of sexy celebrities in santa's costumes, then we can celebrate.

C'mon. You can do much ****tier than that.

Well, people have thrown the name Megan Fox out there...
This is Christmasy, she's with a creature indigineous to Santa's habitat
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o315/bpgalloway/MeganFox_SpursFan.jpg


BTW, if she ^ could act. She'd be perfect. In fact does anyone think she's an inferior actress to Jessica Biel or Uncle Jesse's ex-Wife?

[Quinzel]

If you've got a problem with my christmas cheer you can just.......

um....

uh....

Ignore it. haha.

[Quinzel]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/pmnar/JokersChristmas1-1.jpg

Tada!

Ain't he cute?

lol, ANYWHOS

Rachel W. For catwoman.

lol.

[Cunning Stunts]

Because Hendricks is a redhead and Blunt has played a redhead. This is why casting threads are the Internet at it's bat**** craziest. I'll guarantee without even looking, in fact I'll bet cash money that Donna from that 70's show has been suggested to play Ivy in that thread.

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Dude, FINALLY! SOMEONE ELSE SAYS IT TOO!

Nobody on these forums seem to understand that Casting Calls aren't look-alike contests. All I hear is, "She's got the look," "She looks like *Female Character*," "She can't play *female character*, she doesn't look like her at all."

It's freakin' mind-blowing. It's not a hard concept, people!

[Laderlappen]

So you guys are saying the reason Biel has been suggested is not because of her acting skills?

[Cunning Stunts]

So you guys are saying the reason Biel has been suggested is not because of her acting skills?

That's exactly what I'm suggesting. She's a poor actress.

[Crook]

It's not unreasonable to factor in physical appearance with characters who have an established look. In fact, it makes sense. The acting prerequisite goes without saying, being that it's a movie.

[Cunning Stunts]

It's not unreasonable to factor in physical appearance with characters who have an established look. In fact, it makes sense. The acting prerequisite goes without saying, being that it's a movie.

Not when actresses like Biel and Dushku are being thrown in. And also not when almost every picture of a Riddler or Poison Ivy suggestion is a tall skinny redhead, or when Catwoman "has to be the sexiest woman alive."

[Laderlappen]

That's exactly what I'm suggesting. She's a poor actress.Yeah I was kinda makin a joke. Sorry if I wasnt clear.

For many people casting works like this: Of all actors that are good or up, pick the one that looks the most like the character.

[Crook]

Not when actresses like Biel and Dushku are being thrown in.
Well obviously. You're always gonna get casting choices that are based solely on looks and often lack acting talent. That is not to say, however, that casting choices which have basis in looks aren't completely devoid of thought into the suggestion.

And also not when almost every picture of a Riddler or Poison Ivy suggestion is a tall skinny redhead
Really? Name these people.

or when Catwoman "has to be the sexiest woman alive."
Sorry, but this isn't much of an argument when it's a trait ingrained so deeply in the character. It's the same with Bond looking suave, Batman looking like a grouch, or Joker with a crazed smile.

[Hole Shot]

It's not unreasonable to factor in physical appearance with characters who have an established look. In fact, it makes sense. The acting prerequisite goes without saying, being that it's a movie.

I don't disagree that you have to take physical traits into consideration. Catwoman isn't the best example for this conversation because there are so many actresses that can fit the look without having to use any imagination.

It starts getting silly though when you get characters that have real distinct qualities and people can only come up with redheads for Ivy, actors that are currently bald or have played bald characters for Lex Luthor.

[Cunning Stunts]

Well obviously. You're always gonna get casting choices that are based solely on looks and often lack acting talent. That is not to say, however, that casting choices which have basis in looks aren't completely devoid of thought into the suggestion. I never said that, I said that the suggestions brought by many posters on these boards are devoid of any thought because they are chosen based on looks, rather than acting (regardless of if said actor is good or not)


Really? Name these people. Take a look at both threads. I don't know the names of any of these guys/girls popping up, I just know that there's redhead after redhead showing up in there.


Sorry, but this isn't much of an argument when it's a trait ingrained so deeply in the character. It's the same with Bond looking suave, Batman looking like a grouch, or Joker with a crazed smile.

Why not? Especially when make-up and wardrobe can make the ugliest people beautiful and vice versa (See Julia Roberts in American Sweethearts or Anne Hathaway in Princess Diaries).

Each example you've mentioned is a matter of physical appearance that can be brought on by external factors. Christian Bale doesn't look like a grouch. Daniel Craig looks suave, sure- when you put suave clothing on him. Heath Ledger doesn't normally have a crazed smile, but it's possible for him to put one on, especially once all the make-up and prosthetics are applied. So, yeah, it's a fine argument. Appearances can be altered. Granted, you should only go so far with this, but at the same time, "only so far" can take you miles in the theatre industry.

[Cunning Stunts]

I don't disagree that you have to take physical traits into consideration. Catwoman isn't the best example for this conversation because there are so many actresses that can fit the look without having to use any imagination.

It starts getting silly though when you get characters that have real distinct qualities and people can only come up with redheads for Ivy, actors that are currently bald or have played bald characters for Lex Luthor.

^^^Pretty much what I was saying. I'm all for the actor resembling his or her character. What I'm not all for is sacrificing talent and/or skill simply because an actor is the spit and image of a character.

[Crook]

I never said that, I said that the suggestions brought by many posters on these boards are devoid of any thought because they are chosen based on looks, rather than acting (regardless of if said actor is good or not)
This isn't what you said originally. You were calling out the statements that regarded/disregarded appearance, and just assumed said people only cared about looks and nothing more.

For example, would I dismiss an actor because he/she looks nothing like the character I have envisioned, despite acting capability? Yup. But at the same time, I won't cherry-pick a casting choice from a photo. I may use it as a basis for "weeding out" candidates, but I will not ignore acting talent.

Take a look at both threads. I don't know the names of any of these guys/girls popping up, I just know that there's redhead after redhead showing up in there.
I have been to both threads regularly. And I fail to see these hordes of red-heads overpopulating them. That is why I asked you who these people are. Because from what I've seen, only Damian Lewis, Christina Hendricks and Isla Fisher have been seriously supported by fans. That's hardly a lot.

Why not? Especially when make-up and wardrobe can make the ugliest people beautiful and vice versa (See Julia Roberts in American Sweethearts or Anne Hathaway in Princess Diaries).
It's easy to make a beautiful person ugly. It does not work vice versa. But since you insist in how easy it is to manipulate appearance, who exactly do you have in mind for this role specifically that would be deemed unconventional in looks?

Each example you've mentioned is a matter of physical appearance that can be brought on by external factors. Christian Bale doesn't look like a grouch. Daniel Craig looks suave, sure- when you put suave clothing on him. Heath Ledger doesn't normally have a crazed smile, but it's possible for him to put one on, especially once all the make-up and prosthetics are applied. So, yeah, it's a fine argument. Appearances can be altered. Granted, you should only go so far with this, but at the same time, "only so far" can take you miles in the theatre industry.
These external factors you refer to only amplify what is already naturally there. Bale has naturally intense eyes and sharp features, hence why it's not hard for him to pull off the grim demeanor. Craig has icy blue eyes and rugged but not ugly features that easily give him a bad-boy look. Ledger naturally has a freakishly wide grin, and the evil makeup only serves to twist that honest smile into a fiendish one.

As you can see, these external factors only bring out what the actors already had. Same applies to sex appeal for Selina. I'll be the first to admit it, Michelle had a pretty subpar body (no real curves) for the role, but man was her face and eyes seductive as hell. That's really all it took. Add in that shiny, tight catsuit and you'd forget about any of her "flaws". All the work was right above her neck.

Whomever is cast as Selina, she needs to have something innate which can be associated with the character. I can't think of a single actor that relied solely on prosthetic, wardrobe, and/or make-up to create a role.

[Hole Shot]

I've seen Winslet in this thread a few times and thought that was an odd suggestion, until I realized she got a face transplant.

She was always a pretty girl, in her own right, but THIS is not Rose...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2159774208/nm0000701

[batboy99]

Its the, older, hotter Rose :p Ive never thought that she would be a good fit ,but those pics :wow:

[DCnightwing23]

I dont really get this, WB or someone like that has said that characters that have been done before on the big screen would not be used again, so why is everyone still expecting riddler or catwoman?? This is what i think, i think these "civilized people", when they hear something like a character not being used they jump on it immediately even though they know it might not be used.
And then when a character like Black Mask is talked about, people arent as excited because they know already that that character might be used because it hasnt been done before.

[Cunning Stunts]

I dont really get this, WB or someone like that has said that characters that have been done before on the big screen would not be used again, so why is everyone still expecting riddler or catwoman?? This is what i think, i think these "civilized people", when they hear something like a character not being used they jump on it immediately even though they know it might not be used.
And then when a character like Black Mask is talked about, people arent as excited because they know already that that character might be used because it hasnt been done before.

Because we don't believe that, honestly. I think there'll be AT LEAST one villain that is re-used, if not more.

[Crook]

I dont really get this, WB or someone like that has said that characters that have been done before on the big screen would not be used again, so why is everyone still expecting riddler or catwoman??
Maybe because the part in the bold never happened.

[DCnightwing23]

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15021.html

Hmmm crook, and any other ppl. David Goyer says that theres 70 years worth of characters which havent been used yet, so why use ones like penguin or catwoman??

Crook, get your facts straight.

[Laderlappen]

I dont really get this, WB or someone like that has said that characters that have been done before on the big screen would not be used again, so why is everyone still expecting riddler or catwoman?? This is what i think, i think these "civilized people", when they hear something like a character not being used they jump on it immediately even though they know it might not be used.
And then when a character like Black Mask is talked about, people arent as excited because they know already that that character might be used because it hasnt been done before.Nobody has ever done that.

[Crook]

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15021.html

Hmmm crook, and any other ppl. David Goyer says that theres 70 years worth of characters which havent been used yet, so why use ones like penguin or catwoman??

Crook, get your facts straight.
Maybe you should get your reading comprehension straight. :dry:

This is what it says:
MoviesOnline: You’ve done Scarecrow, you’ve done Joker, Ra’s Al Ghul, and now Two-Face, if you were to do a third film, which characters would you like to tackle?

DAVID GOYER: We’re not going to tell you other than to say Batman has been published for 70 years. In the first movie we used Ra’s Al Ghul and the Scarecrow who had not been in the movies before and had not been in the 60s TV show and there are dozens, if not hundreds of other characters that fit that bill. Everyone says you have to use the Penguin or Catwoman. Well, I completely disagree.

JONATHAN NOLAN: There’s a very deep roster of great characters over seventy years.
There is absolutely no confirmation here of anything. Just that they don't want to be confined to a rule that you have to use a classic villain, such as Penguin or Catwoman. He more or less leaves the door wide open.

So unless you can find some other statement that plainly states without a shadow of a doubt that there will be no re-use of a previous villain, then you are incorrect.

[jmc]

I'm so sick of people taking Goyers comment out of context and using it as proof that Catwoman is not going to be used.

[cerealkiller182]

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15021.html

Hmmm crook, and any other ppl. David Goyer says that theres 70 years worth of characters which havent been used yet, so why use ones like penguin or catwoman??

Crook, get your facts straight.

you should read that again becuase thats not what he said. He said he doesnt know why characters like Penguin and Catwoman are being considered must haves when theres other possibilities.

[DCnightwing23]

http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/artman2/publish/movie_news/Penguin-Catwoman-will-not-return-says-Goyer-13110708.php

Title says it.

http://filmonic.com/david-goyer-rules-penguin-catwoman

Again title says it.

[Crook]

Titles miswritten by people that misinterpreted. If the titles were true, then you would have seen it straight from Goyer or Jonah's mouth. But that is not the case, those words were never uttered.

Try again.

[jmc]

I'm waiting for someone to produce proof of this exact quote from either Goyer or the Nolans - 'We are not going to use Catwoman'. Until then, any and every character is on the table.

[DCnightwing23]

He saying that there are other characters they would rather use! So obviously they dont wanna use catwoman, like he said there is 70 years worth of villains. And who knows maybe Nolan will create a villain much like Bruce Timm did with Harley Quinn. You choose to believe that Catwoman will happen, when in fact it obviously wont. Give it a rest. There are other villains out there that true comic book fans would love to see instead of a Catwoman. Like anarky (an older version) since Joker wanted to introduce "a little anarky" or hush. But no, those characters are being silenced. Because ppl like you wanna see something thats already happened.

[Crook]

He saying that there are other characters they would rather use!
Really? So quote this exact statement, if it's not something you've simply assumed.

But no, those characters are being silenced. Because ppl like you wanna see something thats already happened.
Yup. Such a shame TDK was even made, a darn re-hash of Joker and Two-Face AGAIN. My, if only we could turn back the hands of time....

[jmc]

No, what Goyer said is that there are other options on the table other than the obvious villains, but there is nothing in his comments that say 'We are not using Catwoman', he has not ruled out Catwoman, he has never said it, I don't even know why people are trying to quote him for something he never said.

[Laderlappen]

he said there is 70 years worth of villains.Well...there are.

Title says it.
:lmao:

[Hole Shot]

I dont really get this, WB or someone like that has said that characters that have been done before on the big screen would not be used again


You mean like Joker?



Yup. Such a shame TDK was even made, a darn re-hash of Joker and Two-Face AGAIN. My, if only we could turn back the hands of time....


oh yeah, and Two Face.

[RachelDawes]

He saying that there are other characters they would rather use! So obviously they dont wanna use catwoman, like he said there is 70 years worth of villains. And who knows maybe Nolan will create a villain much like Bruce Timm did with Harley Quinn. You choose to believe that Catwoman will happen, when in fact it obviously wont. Give it a rest. There are other villains out there that true comic book fans would love to see instead of a Catwoman. Like anarky (an older version) since Joker wanted to introduce "a little anarky" or hush. But no, those characters are being silenced. Because ppl like you wanna see something thats already happened.

If Catwoman isn't used you can almost bet she won't be replaced with Anarky or Hush. She'll probably be replaced with a female villain so Bruce can have a love interest. I suppose Nolan could introduce Vicky Vale or some other female character but I don't think that is going to happen because it'll be interesting to see Batman take on a female opponent. He isn't likely to create a new villain either until the comics well has run dry.

BTW, Batman could still fight Anarky or Hush even if Catwoman is in the movie. He would simply fight 2+ villains at the same time. Catwoman, the Riddler, etc. aren't the Joker. They don't need a movie all to themselves. They can share screentime.

[StorminNorman]

LOL, why wouldn't they use Catwoman because she appeared in past films only to bring in Vicky Vale?

[Laderlappen]

Why would they bring in Anarky and Hush? Seriously if there's something thats a fact wont happen, its that.

[Hole Shot]

BTW, Batman could still fight Anarky or Hush even if Catwoman is in the movie. He would simply fight 2+ villains at the same time. Catwoman, the Riddler, etc. aren't the Joker. They don't need a movie all to themselves. They can share screentime.

We're also assuming she's going to be playing a villain. She's already been a villain on screen, there was some gray area in Returns because her motives were vengeance against another villain (Shreck). I'd like her to be totally gray in Nolan's film. I want the actual romance between her and Batman as much as between her and Bruce. There's never been the real emotional connection between the two as their alter egos and that's what I really want to see. She was definitely a seductress towards Batman in Returns but the real emmotion between them didn't occur until their identies were revealed.

We've accepted the Bruce/Selina/Batman/Catwoman thing as norm for a while. I think a love subplot that involved 2 relationships, 2 pairs of individuals that are unaware they are the same 2 people would be pretty interesting and fresh on screen. It would be extremely difficult to pull off in 2.5 hours with so much else going on and runs the risk of making things too convoluted for the genre but if the brothers Nolan can pull that off in the script I'd be stoked.

[RachelDawes]

We're also assuming she's going to be playing a villain. She's already been a villain on screen, there was some gray area in Returns because her motives were vengeance against another villain (Shreck). I'd like her to be totally gray in Nolan's film. I want the actual romance between her and Batman as much as between her and Bruce. There's never been the real emotional connection between the two as their alter egos and that's what I really want to see. She was definitely a seductress towards Batman in Returns but the real emmotion between them didn't occur until their identies were revealed.

I'm assuming that she'd be stealing things in BB3, which would make her a villain, albeit not in the same league as the Joker. Batman would obviously have to try and stop her, but for the first time he'd also be attracted to a criminal. I guess I'm saying that I agree. :yay: A Batman/Catwoman romance could be very complex and interesting.

We've accepted the Bruce/Selina/Batman/Catwoman thing as norm for a while. I think a love subplot that involved 2 relationships, 2 pairs of individuals that are unaware they are the same 2 people would be pretty interesting and fresh on screen. It would be extremely difficult to pull off in 2.5 hours with so much else going on and runs the risk of making things too convoluted for the genre but if the brothers Nolan can pull that off in the script I'd be stoked.

I also agree with this.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'm assuming that she'd be stealing things in BB3, which would make her a villain, albeit not in the same league as the Joker. Batman would obviously have to try and stop her, but for the first time he'd also be attracted to a criminal. I guess I'm saying that I agree. :yay: A Batman/Catwoman romance could be very complex and interesting.



I also agree with this.


I agree... the last bit with what Hole Shot said... reminded me of bits and pieces from Mr and Mrs Smith. When they find out that they're both assassins but in terms of Batman and Catwoman or Bruce and Selina, they find out that they're both ... um whats the word... that they;re both one and the same??

[Alex Logan]

I dont really get this, WB or someone like that has said that characters that have been done before on the big screen would not be used again, so why is everyone still expecting riddler or catwoman?? This is what i think, i think these "civilized people", when they hear something like a character not being used they jump on it immediately even though they know it might not be used.
And then when a character like Black Mask is talked about, people arent as excited because they know already that that character might be used because it hasnt been done before.

As others have already pointed out, no one said that, you're just interpreting it that way.

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15021.html

Hmmm crook, and any other ppl. David Goyer says that theres 70 years worth of characters which havent been used yet, so why use ones like penguin or catwoman??

Crook, get your facts straight.

It's not about facts, it's about interpretation.

http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/artman2/publish/movie_news/Penguin-Catwoman-will-not-return-says-Goyer-13110708.php

Title says it.

http://filmonic.com/david-goyer-rules-penguin-catwoman

Again title says it.

Again it's all about interpretation. The "title" of an article doesn't prove anything. Why would you put your faith in an article on the internet anyway? I've read simular articles claiming that both Cher and Maggie were going to play Catwoman. Now of course this is just ridiculous and a stretch from the links you posted, but you understand what I mean.

He saying that there are other characters they would rather use! So obviously they dont wanna use catwoman, like he said there is 70 years worth of villains.

Yes, he did say that, but what villain can "top" the Joker? The answer is nobody. The best they can do is try and "match" him and to do that you need a major rouge.

And who knows maybe Nolan will create a villain much like Bruce Timm did with Harley Quinn. Give it a rest.

Chris Nolan tried to create an original character and most everyone hated her.

You choose to believe that Catwoman will happen, when in fact it obviously wont.

You don't know that it won't happen, in fact, in the past few weeks there have been many stories about Catwoman actually being in the third film.

There are other villains out there that true comic book fans would love to see instead of a Catwoman. Like anarky (an older version) since Joker wanted to introduce "a little anarky" or hush. But no, those characters are being silenced.

Honestly, I don't know any true comic fans that would rather see Anarky or Hush over Catwoman. I'm sure they are out there, but percentage wise most would rather see Catwoman. Why are you so dead set against her? If any character from the Batman mythos needs new threatment it's Catwoman. And those other characters are not being silenced.

Because ppl like you wanna see something thats already happened.

No, that's were you're wrong. I for one want something new, just like we saw in The Dark Knight.

[jmc]

We're also assuming she's going to be playing a villain. She's already been a villain on screen, there was some gray area in Returns because her motives were vengeance against another villain (Shreck). I'd like her to be totally gray in Nolan's film. I want the actual romance between her and Batman as much as between her and Bruce. There's never been the real emotional connection between the two as their alter egos and that's what I really want to see. She was definitely a seductress towards Batman in Returns but the real emmotion between them didn't occur until their identies were revealed.

Not sure if we would get a Batman/Catwoman romance, I get the feeling the focus would be more on a Bruce/Selina romance, I just don't see a Batman Returns type scenario with Bats/Cats flirting with each other working given the tone of Nolan's movies. We've accepted the Bruce/Selina/Batman/Catwoman thing as norm for a while. I think a love subplot that involved 2 relationships, 2 pairs of individuals that are unaware they are the same 2 people would be pretty interesting and fresh on screen. It would be extremely difficult to pull off in 2.5 hours with so much else going on and runs the risk of making things too convoluted for the genre but if the brothers Nolan can pull that off in the script I'd be stoked.

If there is one thing I don't think anyone has successfully pulled off is a romantic/love story within an action film, I know Lucas tried it in the god awful Star Wars prequel. The Bat and Cat story is one of the great love tragedies in modern literature, two people who really are meant for each other but are destined never be together, it's just never been adapted right on screen as of yet, I think the potential is there for something unique.

[Two-Face]

Well Goyer did say that Joker would scar Harvey Dent near end of Batman 2 (TDK) and would see Two-Face in Batman 3, did that happen? No.

We don't know if Catwoman, The Penguin, Riddler or any other villains going to be used. Some you takes this too seriously, from now it's all rumour until Nolan brothers & Co confirm it.

And Catwoman, Riddler, Penguin etc... aren't part of 70 years old characters??? :whatever:

[cerealkiller182]

And Catwoman, Riddler, Penguin etc... aren't part of 70 years old characters??? :whatever:

Catwoman is 68. Penguin is 67. Although I dont think thats what anyone meant, but actually meant that there is 70 years of the Batman franchise to take inspiration from and find a rogue anywhere within that.

[kid dropper]

Yeh but the flaw in Goyer's statement is this:
Look at those seventy years, which ones have caught on and why. Sure, theyve created many many rogues for Batman in that time, about 75 percent of them pretty weak, and unworthy of film adaptation. Goyer was just making a point. It is highly unlikely they are considering the likes of Catman, Black spider, Blockbuster, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, etc. Fans and the general public alike want to see Riddler or Catwoman, if you honestly think the next movie wont feature either of those characters or maybe even both, you are insane. Im sure they will throw in Black Mask or some other heretofore unadapted character, but they wont be the sole focus of the film. I mean, Goyer can pontificate on Batman's rich legacy all he wants, but the stark truth is that there are really only a couple of ways to go with this, especially when Nolan's realism renders so many second and third tier villains moot.

[kid dropper]

Yeh but the flaw in Goyer's statement is this:
Look at those seventy years, which ones have caught on and why. Sure, theyve created many many rogues for Batman in that time, about 75 percent of them pretty weak, and unworthy of film adaptation. Goyer was just making a point. It is highly unlikely they are considering the likes of Catman, Black spider, Blockbuster, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, etc. Fans and the general public alike want to see Riddler or Catwoman, if you honestly think the next movie wont feature either of those characters or maybe even both, you are insane. Im sure they will throw in Black Mask or some other heretofore unadapted character, but they wont be the sole focus of the film. I mean, Goyer can pontificate on Batman's rich legacy all he wants, but the stark truth is that there are really only a couple of ways to go with this, especially when Nolan's realism renders so many second and third tier villains moot.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I can't believe people are still hung up on the hugely overrated Jolie. she would be the most boring choice of all time.

[TwilightPro101]

I'm between Duskhu and Weisz on possible choice.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Some of those poll choices are just yuck.

Angelina Jolie (as I said overrated and she would just do the same lame over the top sex-pot thing that she always does)

Kate Beckinsale(I like her and wouldn't cry if she got the role)

Charlize Theron(very good actress and could easily pull off the role)

Eliza Dushku(Hell no, not a good enough actress, it would be Katie Holmes all over again)

Marion Cotillard(Don't know anything about her but I seriously doubt that she could affect a convincing american accent)

Keri Russell(I like her but she isn't right for the role)

Michelle Monaghan(I just don't see it but I do think that she has acting chops so who knows?)

Rose Mcgowan(Hell no, she looks strange now and she isn't a good actress)

Kate Winslet(Good actress but I don't see it)

Cate Blanchett(Same as Kate Winslet, I just don't see it)

Rebecca Romijn(I like her but she has already done this role)

Rachel Weisz(I would be very, very happy if she were cast)

Jessica Biel(Personally I think that she is a better actress than Scar Jo and I wouldn't be crying if she got the role)

Hilary Swank(She can't do sexy)

[TwilightPro101]

Going for Weisz.

[Quinzel]

Going for Weisz.

thats 2 of us.

[batboy99]

Some of those poll choices are just yuck.

Angelina Jolie (as I said overrated and she would just do the same lame over the top sex-pot thing that she always does)

Kate Beckinsale(I like her and wouldn't cry if she got the role)

Charlize Theron(very good actress and could easily pull off the role)

Eliza Dushku(Hell no, not a good enough actress, it would be Katie Holmes all over again)

Marion Cotillard(Don't know anything about her but I seriously doubt that she could affect a convincing american accent)

Keri Russell(I like her but she isn't right for the role)

Michelle Monaghan(I just don't see it but I do think that she has acting chops so who knows?)

Rose Mcgowan(Hell no, she looks strange now and she isn't a good actress)

Kate Winslet(Good actress but I don't see it)

Cate Blanchett(Same as Kate Winslet, I just don't see it)

Rebecca Romijn(I like her but she has already done this role)

Rachel Weisz(I would be very, very happy if she were cast)

Jessica Biel(Personally I think that she is a better actress than Scar Jo and I wouldn't be crying if she got the role)

Hilary Swank(She can't do sexy)
r-really? :dry:

Shes one of the worst actresses in movies IMO

and werent you like a HUGE Scarjo supporter before? or was that someone else?


As for Dushku, i think shes better than Holmes, but no where near good enough for these movies.

[Alex Logan]

thats 2 of us.

That's 3 of us. But I do like others for the role. :woot:

[batboy99]

I think Weisz would be just fine in the role, but as much as I hate to say it, I do agree with whoever said shes at that point in her career where she's playing ''mom'' roles.

Edit:WTH, I don't remember voting for Swank...

[Alex Logan]

I think Weisz would be just fine in the role, but as much as I hate to say it, I do agree with whoever said shes at that point in her career where she's playing ''mom'' roles.

Edit:WTH, I don't remember voting for Swank...

True, she is 37.

[batboy99]

Its not her age, its just the roles she chooses and maybe a little bit of her look too.

[TwilightPro101]

-Edit.-

[I SEE SPIDEY]

r-really? :dry:

Shes one of the worst actresses in movies IMO

and werent you like a HUGE Scarjo supporter before? or was that someone else?


As for Dushku, i think shes better than Holmes, but no where near good enough for these movies.I haven't been on the Batman forums for months so that wasn't me.

I voted for Weisz but I'd take Theron too. Both very good at what they do.

[batboy99]

Oh, it was a couple years ago.

[TwilightPro101]

I voted for Weisz but I'd take Theron too. Both very good at what they do.

Would as well.

[batboy99]

I could go for both as well, but my top two are Cate and Marion.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Oh, it was a couple years ago.I suggested her for Gwen Stacy but I wouldn't say that I was really huge on her. The more I see of her the more underwhelming she becomes.

I know I'm in the minority on Biel and I'm okay with that.

[batboy99]

Recently its like she hasnt been trying, but I saw a clip of her in the spirit and it looks like shes getting back to her old habits. So thats good.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^I think that the acting in the Spirit looks awful. And let me make this clear, I know what acting style they are going for I just think that the acting looks terrible...as well as the film.

[TwilightPro101]

I still need to get around to actually viewing "The Spirit." ScarJo does look stunning it but then again she always does. The trailer doesn't particular draw me in, but I'm all for some filler during the winter months.

Wouldn't be my prefered choice for Catwoman, but she's definitely on the endless cast choice list.

[batboy99]

Its just over the top, but Scarlett looks pretty good.

[Changeling]

Rachel Weisz, Marion, or Cate.

[jmc]

Some of those poll choices are just yuck.
You should have seen some of the previous polls choices. :woot: This is more of your Nolan-esque style of actresses (well some of them, I'm certain others are on here just for a laugh) Marion Cotillard(Don't know anything about her but I seriously doubt that she could affect a convincing american accent)



I recommend watching her in Love Me If You Dare or La Vie en Rose, as for the accent, we'll know come June in Public Enemies.

[batboy99]

Rachel Weisz, Marion, or Cate.
Really? Im not alone? IM NOT ALONE!!

What made you like her?

[Spider-Bite]

I kind of think catwoman should be like Janet Jackson buff. Not as buff as a body building man of course, but buff enough that you could believe she could put up a fight against Batman, but no so buff that she isn't still attractive at the same time.

I think she should be slightly tall as well. Like 5ft 10, or 6 foot. Not tiny petite, with the perfect porn star body.

[Spider-Bite]

jessica biel is capable of pulling off the tough girl.

[jmc]

jessica biel is capable of pulling off the tough girl.

It's too bad she's not capable of giving a decent performance consistently.

[flickchick85]

jessica biel is capable of pulling off the tough girl.

She may be able to pull of the Tough Girl™ but she's not able to pull off the Human Being.

[Hellrider]

My choice would be Kate Beckinsale... As much as Jolie might look the part...I dont know if she'd have the acting chops to do it...but thats just me.

[Spider-Bite]

She may be able to pull of the Tough Girl™ but she's not able to pull off the Human Being.

I'm not sure if I wanna see a human side of Catwoman. I'm just not sure if Catwoman should be a sympathetic villain. these movies are so dark and kick ass, and by kick ass I don't mean awesome, I mean the movie kicks your ass.

I'm not saying I'm a 100% positive though that there shouldn't be a human side.

[Ethermatic]

I'm not sure if I wanna see a human side of Catwoman. I'm just not sure if Catwoman should be a sympathetic villain. these movies are so dark and kick ass, and by kick ass I don't mean awesome, I mean the movie kicks your ass.

I'm not saying I'm a 100% positive though that there shouldn't be a human side.

Though I could be wrong, I don't think Nolan would portray Selina Kyle/Catwoman as villainous the way Burton did in Batman Returns. I think he'd play more on her role as a person stuck in the grey.

"Whose side are you on?"
"The same side I'm always on."

[Laderlappen]

I can't believe people are still hung up on the hugely overrated Jolie. she would be the most boring choice of all time.Its not half as annoying as the Kate Beckinsale bull.

[HUMANIMAL]

rhona mitra...what ya'll think????

[[A]]

She may be able to pull of the Tough Girl™ but she's not able to pull off the Human Being

:hehe: QFT

[MiniBond]

My choice would be Kate Beckinsale... As much as Jolie might look the part...I dont know if she'd have the acting chops to do it...but thats just me.

:wow:

Angelina is a great actress when she wants to be one (see changeling, and that's just one example)no matter what kind of bad movies she's made in the past!

As catwoman she'd be able to greatly perform the tough girl she already played in tomb raider mixed with a sultry femme fatale ..........but like I said somewhere else, after having seen a manip of her next to Bale I realize that the two do not fit with each other !

[[A]]

^ Haven't seen Changeling but she was kinda ok in The Good Shepherd..






..and I don't like Jolie for the part

[Laderlappen]

Im not a fan of Jolie like at all, but she's a better actress than beckinsale.

[WeaponXProject]

Carla Gugino - she is a rising star. Don't think Nolan would do it but I like her.

[Quinzel]

^ Haven't seen Changeling but she was kinda ok in The Good Shepherd..






..and I don't like Jolie for the part

me either.

[Ace of Knaves]

I'm still a firm advocate for Jimmy Saville.

[Quinzel]

Ew.

[The Batkilt]

I'm still a firm advocate for Jimmy Saville.

Wouldn't make much of a cat burglar though, would he?

"S**t, broke the window in the process of stealing those diamonds. Hmm. Better fix it before I leave..."

[Ace of Knaves]

HAHAHAHA!!

Na but seriously I'm still not sure who I would pick. Catwoman is easily the hardest position to fill. Marion Cotillard or Michelle Monoghan?

[batboy99]

My choice would be Kate Beckinsale... As much as Jolie might look the part...I dont know if she'd have the acting chops to do it...but thats just me.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thats the funniest thing I've heard. And then you suggest Beckinsale? :grin:

[batboy99]

jessica biel is capable of pulling off the tough girl.
Looks wise,sure, but the girl cant act.

[Gianakin_]

Cate Blanchett could play anyone. Even Batman. Glad to see she's getting some more support lately.

[batboy99]

:D:up:

I dont care what anyone says, I think she would be an awesome Catwoman.

[Crook]

...for radio/animation. :o :up:

[batboy99]

For live-action :o:up:

[batboy99]

edit

[I SEE SPIDEY]

...for radio/animation. :o :up:WTF? How old are you, 75?

[batboy99]

Lol :p

[Crook]

WTF? How old are you, 75?
*swoosh* > your head

[Alex Logan]

Its not her age, its just the roles she chooses and maybe a little bit of her look too.

How does she look any older than Cate?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Cate is a fine actress and I wouldn't b**ch if she got the job but I just perfer that she didn't.

[Alex Logan]

I kind of think catwoman should be like Janet Jackson buff. Not as buff as a body building man of course, but buff enough that you could believe she could put up a fight against Batman, but no so buff that she isn't still attractive at the same time.

I think she should be slightly tall as well. Like 5ft 10, or 6 foot. Not tiny petite, with the perfect porn star body.

:facepalm

Cate is a fine actress and I wouldn't b**ch if she got the job but I just perfer that she didn't.

I feel the same way.

Hey, I've been maing to ask you why does the signature say F The Dark Knight? Did you hate the film?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

:facepalm



I feel the same way.

Hey, I've been maing to ask you why does the signature say F The Dark Knight? Did you hate the film?I loved the movie, the sig is an F.U to the annoying TDK fans who troll other boards and attack people for not thinking that the movie is perfect. Ah hell, who am I kidding? I dislike a good 40% of the fanbase.

Thats my response.

[Alex Logan]

I loved the movie, the sig is an F.U to the annoying TDK fans who troll other boards and attack people for not thinking that the movie is perfect. Ah hell, who am I kidding? I dislike a good 40% of the fanbase.

Thats my response.

I see, good idea. :cwink:

[batboy99]

Cate is a fine actress and I wouldn't b**ch if she got the job but I just perfer that she didn't.
Id rather she did. Shes beautiful. She looks great in The Shipping news and she looked great in Benjamin Button. With the right makeup, she would look fine. Shed also have to dye her hair.

[RachelDawes]

^She looks good in almost all the pictures in your avatar but I don't like the one where she has the mask on.

[batboy99]

Why not? I think it turned out great. My favorite manip Ive done so far.
Heres a bigger version
http://batboy99.deviantart.com/art/Faster-Kill-Pussycat-106723935

[[A]]

Well, it's like sons & daughters: everyone loves their own :hehe:

[batboy99]

Im not saying it because I made it, but I think it looks fine. I think she would look fine in the catwoman costume.

[july]

The only Aussie actress I can see as Catwoman is Abbie Cornish- she was awesome opposite Heath Ledger in Candy and is one of the best younger actresses around.
Cate Blanchett looks older than she actually is and really isn't alluring or sexy- and I find her acting to be too 'theatrical', though that may be an advantage for this role.

[Ace of Knaves]

I think Blanchett is a great, great actress. But I just wouldn't be able to believe her as Selina Kyle, not matter how good her performance would be. She just seems too regal and sophisticated looking. Maybe thats me being small minded but, well, HAHAHAHAHA.

[Majik1387]

I can understand that.

[Mercurius]

I think Blanchett is a great, great actress. But I just wouldn't be able to believe her as Selina Kyle, not matter how good her performance would be. She just seems too regal and sophisticated looking. Maybe thats me being small minded but, well, HAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah, that's it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yeah, that's it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Don't get lemon!!! :cmad:

Na but seriously, I just couldn't see her as Selina Kyle. Not in a million, billion, zillion years.

[Laderlappen]

The only Aussie actress I can see as Catwoman is Abbie Cornish- she was awesome opposite Heath Ledger in Candy and is one of the best younger actresses around.
Cate Blanchett looks older than she actually is and really isn't alluring or sexy- and I find her acting to be too 'theatrical', though that may be an advantage for this role.Come on, thats just not true. How old do you think she is?

[Ace of Knaves]

38?

I think she is gorgeous, just not the right type of gorgeous that I would imagen Selina Kyle to be.

[[A]]

39, sir

[Ace of Knaves]

I was close!

[[A]]

Glenn? No, really--I *love* Cate but they shouldn't go with someone older than Bale. Because.. because.. uhm, Gordon, help me out here

[Laderlappen]

It is just the age that she has against her imo. If it was a few years ago, she'd be as perfect for the role as Marion imo. I think she could have easily pull of Selina.

[Ace of Knaves]

I don't think it's age. She is beautiful, but not the kind of beautiful I picture Selina as, simple as that for me. And I know it's not all about looks, but when it comes to a character like Selina Kyle/Catwoman looks is a very, very important part.

[Majik1387]

Cate for Sarah Essen :)

[Ace of Knaves]

Cate for Sarah Essen :)

That I could definitely see!

[Laderlappen]

I think I know what you mean Ace. Cate has a very expressive and unconventinal type of beauty. Many people dont find her that beautiful. She has that type of face you will remember weather you find her beautiful or not, and isnt the type of beautiful that we see in magazines. And IF you find her beautiful, she isnt that type of sexy that for example Jolie has, even if you find Cate to be sexier.

[Laderlappen]

Cate for Sarah Essen :):nono:

[[A]]

:csad:(why isnt there a no smiley)

:nono:..?

[Laderlappen]

:nono:..?thanks. :woot:

[Majik1387]

Why no?

[Mercurius]

Cate for Sarah Essen :)

That's a great idea. Kudos for you, Majik. :yay:

[Majik1387]

I just see a better chemistry between her and Oldman, instead of Bale, but then again, I haven't seen Bale have any kind of chemistry with any of his female costars in any of his movies.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea that is something that needs to be addressed. I'm not sure if it's Bale's fault or what, but there wasn't any real chemistry between him and Katie and him and Maggie. And as we know, the chemistry between Batman and Catwoman needs to be electric.

[MiniBond]

Cate for Sarah Essen :)

I was mocked when I suggested this a while ago :o:woot::hehe:


In addition, I feel there's a physical similarity between Blanchett and the Sarah Essen of Year one !

[Majik1387]

Yea that is something that needs to be addressed. I'm not sure if it's Bale's fault or what, but there wasn't any real chemistry between him and Katie and him and Maggie. And as we know, the chemistry between Batman and Catwoman needs to be electric.
Exactly. It would be something Bale and Nolan would have to work on.
I was mocked when I suggested this a while ago :o:woot::hehe:
That's because you're not me.:o:cwink::oldrazz:

[Crook]

On paper it's a good fit, but it's a waste of her talent.

[Laderlappen]

Why no?SHe'd probably make a good performance, but the character is way to small an uninteresting for the greatest actress of our time. I have gotten sick of her just doing supporting roles.

[Majik1387]

Wasn't aware the Queen Elizabeth movies, Notes on A Scandal, and Babel were supporting roles for her....

[[A]]

But yeah, Essen would be such a small part for her to play. Besides, can you imagine Gordon having an affair? His wife will obviously forgive him--I mean, she just slapped the guy for faking his own death--what she gonna do if he cheats on her? Make him some coffee?

[Laderlappen]

Wasn't aware the Queen Elizabeth movies, Notes on A Scandal, and Babel were supporting roles for her....Notes & Babel were. I guess Notes COULD count as a lead, and Benjamin Button she is kinda lead too. But the only definetly lead she has had the last few years is in The Golden Age.

[hatebox]

Blanchette's an odd one. I mean, she's clearly beautiful and yet kind of.. sexless at the same time. I dunno.

[StorminNorman]

SHe'd probably make a good performance, but the character is way to small an uninteresting for the greatest actress of our time. I have gotten sick of her just doing supporting roles.

Because its impossible for Nolan to MAKE her interesting :huh:

[StorminNorman]

Blanchette's an odd one. I mean, she's clearly beautiful and yet kind of.. sexless at the same time. I dunno.

She's like Cillain Murphy with breasts a wig and makeup.

[batman11]

She's like Cillain Murphy with breasts a wig and makeup.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/batman111111/Cillian_Murphy_-_Brkft_on_Pluto.jpg

;)

[Ace of Knaves]

HAHAHA I knew that was coming.