The New Catwoman Casting Thread

[Crook]

Excellent examples, flickchick! Asides from not looking overtly sexy, I think a lot of the preconceived notions on Marion is that she's really too sweet looking. Having a small frame and a real-life cheerful demeanor doesn't help to alleviate that.

It just goes to show however that attitude carries the burden of that weight and doesn't have to rely solely on physical attributes. I think I'll go watch that film again. :up:

[batboy99]

WHOA! That was an awesome scene. Makes me rout for her even more.

[flickchick85]

Thanks Crook. Yeah, I just watched it again with my dad, who hadn't seen it, a couple days ago. He HATES foreign movies ("If I want to read I'll pick up a book!"), but even he thought the movie was great. You know, cuz it is. But that inspired me to look up some clips and post 'em. I SO wish there was a compilation of clips from her more notable roles out there so those doubters who haven't seen her act could get a sampling. I saw one on YouTube recently of Zooey Deschanel that was really quite impressive, but sadly I couldn't find one of Marion. 'Tis a shame, b/c I think it could get several folks here to "see the light." :D Seeing the woman in photos and seeing her act are like seeing 2 totally different people.

And batboy, you definitely need to check out that movie. Marion aside, the whole thing is fantastic.

[TK1211]

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Marion for Catwoman!

[batboy99]

Hell yes!

[TwilightPro101]

Third it. She's a great possibility visually.

[batboy99]

What do you guys think of Olivia Wilde as Selina? Assuming she puts on weight of course.

[elgato]

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Marion for Catwoman!

GRRRR!!! That's sooo...mmm...k, going to jack off, BRB

[flickchick85]

What do you guys think of Olivia Wilde as Selina? Assuming she puts on weight of course.
I've only seen her in a couple of TV shows, and I was not impressed. Also, I found her kinda, not to sound harsh, but...creepy looking. I mean, she kinda wax figure-ish. To me, at least.

[batboy99]

Really? I think she's quite beautiful.

[elgato]

GRRRR!!! That's sooo...mmm...k, going to jack off, BRB

BTW, if there's anyone that remotely think Marion didn't fit the role phisycally can now consider himself a dumb***

[TwilightPro101]

Really? I think she's quite beautiful.

Think the same.

[jmc]

I've only seen her in a couple of TV shows, and I was not impressed. Also, I found her kinda, not to sound harsh, but...creepy looking. I mean, she kinda wax figure-ish. To me, at least.

Thank god, I thought I was the only one who thought she looked a bit creepy.

[Cunning Stunts]

I'd rather not take into account the actor's future welfare. That's silly. A big break will only get you into the door, it won't keep you in.

Yeah probably true, I didn't really think out what I was saying before I said it. I'm not too worried about that, I guess it was just my way of saying I'd prefer someone who isn't constantly on TV for every freakin' thing he or she does. Someone more personalized to the Batman series, I guess I could say. I don't necessarily demand a no-namer, and I wouldn't be opposed to A-listers... I just really want the perfect fit.

I like Eva Green regardless, I love her style and I think she'd be a wonderful fit with Bale. If Cotillard is as good as everyone is saying, I'm certain she'll be one of my top choices once I can find one of her effin' movies to watch (haven't seen one yet).

I did see Benjamin Button finally, and I have to say that Cate Blanchett seems more and more like a perfect Catwoman all-around every time I see her in a movie.

[flickchick85]

Really? I think she's quite beautiful.
I can certainly see why other people would find her beautiful, she's not ugly, but I'm definitely with jmc on this one - can't shake the creep factor.

[Crook]

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Very Selina-eque. This girl has so much potential, I'm really hoping she can pull off this American accent. That's the only thing holding her back from Hollywood stardom if she plays her cards right.

Fingers crossed she does a better job transitioning than Audrey Tautou. :o

If Cotillard is as good as everyone is saying, I'm certain she'll be one of my top choices once I can find one of her effin' movies to watch (haven't seen one yet).
Just look up her movies on IMDb and use torrents to download them. Earlier on in this thread, I said I was going to rewatch one of her films. Took me all of 2 minutes to find the movie, took half an hour to download. I just got back from watching it in my living room.

I love technology. :funny:

I did see Benjamin Button finally, and I have to say that Cate Blanchett seems more and more like a perfect Catwoman all-around every time I see her in a movie.
The more I see of her, the more I can't shake a description someone once said about Cate; her acting style is very stage-esque. Like you're watching someone in a play, as opposed to a film. I don't know what it is, but that's how she's always come off to me. She was fantastic in TCOBB, yet even when she's playing a youthful and care-free teenager, it's very old-school. Though a lot of this may be attributed to her always acting in period films.

In fact, I don't recall ever seeing her in a "modern" piece. :huh:

[flickchick85]

Fingers crossed she does a better job transitioning than Audrey Tautou. :o


Amen to that one. Though, I feel she's a far more talented actress than Tautou to begin with, so she's got that on her side. Not trying to bash Tautou, but she seems a bit limited, range-wise. Whereas range is probably what I'd consider Cotillard's greatest asset.


The more I see of her, the more I can't shake a description someone once said about Cate; her acting style is very stage-esque. Like you're watching someone in a play, as opposed to a film. I don't know what it is, but that's how she's always come off to me. She was fantastic in TCOBB, yet even when she's playing a youthful and care-free teenager, it's very old-school. Though a lot of this may be attributed to her always acting in period films.

In fact, I don't recall ever seeing her in a "modern" piece. :huh:
I agree with you on her preferred style, but I think she can turn it off and on. Notes on a Scandal was modern piece, and she was amazing in that, playing just normal school teacher. I haven't seen Veronica Guerin, but that was a modern one, too, and she got a lot of attention for that one as well. I have no doubt that Cate Blanchett could play the role exactly the way Chris Nolan would want her to...she's just not Catwoman to me. And yeah, I guess that all pretty much comes down to the look. I could see her playing Christian Bale's big sister, but not his love interest. Not that I wouldn't LOVE to see them do a movie together, though.

[jmc]

Very Selina-eque. This girl has so much potential, I'm really hoping she can pull off this American accent. That's the only thing holding her back from Hollywood stardom if she plays her cards right.

Fingers crossed she does a better job transitioning than Audrey Tautou. :o




She's got more range than Audrey Tautou, in fact I often wonder if The Da Vinci would have been marginally more detestable had she been cast as Sophie. Regardless, I think Public Enemies is going to the film that really cements her name worldwide, Bale, Depp, Mann, she's in good company with that movie.

[Ethermatic]

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Marion for Catwoman!

Fantastic photographs of Marion Cotillard. Doesn't make her budge from 2nd on my list behind Eva Green and ahead of Angelina Jolie. But, they at least cement her as a possibility in my mind.

[Gianakin_]

In fact, I don't recall ever seeing her in a "modern" piece. :huh:

If you haven't already, check her out in The Shipping News where she practically plays a bit*h (small part, though) or in Pushing Tin. Nothing staged about her performances there.

But I have to say, Marion looks more and more like the ideal choice. Cate or Marion, I'd be a happy camper if Nolan goes that way. But whoever they cast, they HAVE to bring teh sexy.

Edit: Hm, she'll be acting opposite Bale in Public Enemies (hopefully). It should be a good crash test, if you ask me.

[Ethermatic]

Edit: Hm, she'll be acting opposite Bale in Public Enemies (hopefully). It should be a good crash test, if you ask me.

That's if her character even has scenes with Bale's. Otherwise, we can only go off of what she does with Depp's character and how she does a more American accent.

[Gianakin_]

That's if her character even has scenes with Bale's. Otherwise, we can only go off of what she does with Depp's character and how she does a more American accent.

That's true, hence the "hopefully". I'm completely clueless about PE and I don't know who she's supposed to be.

[Ethermatic]

That's true, hence the "hopefully". I'm completely clueless about PE and I don't know who she's supposed to be.

Cotillard is portraying Billie Frechette, singer girlfriend to Depp's John Dillinger.

[Gianakin_]

Ah, thanks. Well, that roughly translates to no or one scene with Bale.

[Laderlappen]

I've heard she is doing one scene with Bale. Bale catches her tries to milk her for some information about Dillinger(Depp). And when you're getting interrogated by Bale, you could just guess what happens.

[Gianakin_]

And when you're getting interrogated by Bale, you could just guess what happens.

Let's hope the scene will be more Equilibrium than TDK:woot:

[MiniBond]

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Marion for Catwoman!

I:heart:Marion......

[[A]]

Aren't americans mad at her because of what she said about 9/11? :hehe:

[Laderlappen]

That was taken out of context.

[Majik1387]

Plus a lot of people have thought about the conspiracy theories. People can get over it, it's not like she's broadcasting it in her acting.

[Ethermatic]

Aren't americans mad at her because of what she said about 9/11? :hehe:

Truth be told, there's a lot of things you can question about what happened on 9/11, about the United States and the way we do things, etc...

The fact that she's famous and had an opinion about it, out of context or not, doesn't concern me.

[[A]]

That was taken out of context.

Plus a lot of people have thought about the conspiracy theories. People can get over it, it's not like she's broadcasting it in her acting.

Truth be told, there's a lot of things you can question about what happened on 9/11, about the United States and the way we do things, etc...

The fact that she's famous and had an opinion about it, out of context or not, doesn't concern me.

Fair enough. I gotta admit I'm a bit surprised, though..

[Mercurius]

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Marion for Catwoman!


Demoiselle Cotillard IS Catwoman. :yay:

[Mercurius]

Plus: her questioning on the 9/11 is more than legitimate.

Watch Zeitgeist and I'm sure you'll be at least questioning the official version of the facts.

It is a very dark and frightening account of the events.

[Ethermatic]

Fair enough. I gotta admit I'm a bit surprised, though..

Well, you see what happened when the Dixie Chicks said something about the war really early on, they ended up being either right or having their opposition grow larger once people began to see that whoever was doing the planning wasn't doing a very good job. Of course, they got blasted all over the place before other people started having the same opinion.

As time has gone on and people have realized that the early naysayers were simply ahead of the curve in terms of questioning things that should've been questioned, the blasting is a bit more deserving and therefore subject to discussion.

I'm not sure when Cotillard made her comments and what context they were taken out of, but I figure it was either a long time ago and people have gotten over it, or simply have grown accustomed to questioning things themselves, given reason by a very faulty world these days.

[Laderlappen]

She was pretty much just talking about conspiracy theories. Then people hear what they want to hear, and the media take advantage of this. It happened about 2 years ago.

[WeaponXProject]

Im talking attitude. Not being her completely useless at what she does, but the way she carries herself. Trinity from the Matrix is exactly what I dont want. I hated Trinity, she was devoid of personality. Boring as ****. I dont really think a regular person would put on a mask and than act introvertly unless your Batman creating a persona. Catwoman should be overly confident and a troublemaker, not stiff and joyless.

EDIT: or rather theres 2 ways a person would go with wearing a mask. Completely introvert or completely extrovert. Its like writing online theres an ambiguous nature to it that allows you to do things you may not have done if you were yourself.

We'll just have to disagree here. I just think that the way Nolan uses his characters that it would be very unlike Nolan to have a Karen Allen-esque character in his films, that's just my opinion. If you had a better example than her when it comes to what you've explained than I would understand.

I see that Trinity could be percieved as boring but like you put "you didn't mean carbon copies" neither do I. I mean in her passion in how she speaks and the belief in what she's doing. I like how Trinity portrays herself, she is confident in herself but not overly flaunting it.

I agree that while she needs to be tough, fun, and flirty, this character needs a darker, more complex side that neither Michelle Monaghan in KKBB nor Marion from Indy had. And for the record, Indiana Jones is rooted in cartoons/serials from the '30's. Spielberg basically did well what Schumacher did horribly, but they both had similar intentions and inspirations - so drawing from Indy for a character example does sound a little bit..."Schumachery" to me, too. But I agree with the attributes you want her have; I just think those examples leave out some very essential attributes as well, and if she truly were too much like either of those two characters, I'd be disappointed.


See I agree with the attributes he used two, but I just don't like the actor examples.

And this Olivia Wilde is pretty on spot on look but her resume is small outside of T.V....

[cerealkiller182]

We'll just have to disagree here. I just think that the way Nolan uses his characters that it would be very unlike Nolan to have a Karen Allen-esque character in his films, that's just my opinion. If you had a better example than her when it comes to what you've explained than I would understand.

I see that Trinity could be percieved as boring but like you put "you didn't mean carbon copies" neither do I. I mean in her passion in how she speaks and the belief in what she's doing. I like how Trinity portrays herself, she is confident in herself but not overly flaunting it.

I dont think a professional trouble-maker and thrillseeker wouldnt flaunt. Confidence? Hell yea. Passion? Yea, but about freedom. Someone passion about freedom wouldnt be introvert. We are talking about a character who over the years has been made into a character looking for an escape from an abusive past trying to live with no limits. I am having a hard time seeing this character confident yet humble, or a person of few but important words. She should run her mouth and smile in the face of danger. It is superficially corny but it is fueled by very dark and emotional reasons. It is not naturally corny because it is a corny persona she applies to Catwoman the same way Bruce Wayne applies an introvert persona to Batman.

[batboy99]

If you haven't already, check her out in The Shipping News where she practically plays a bit*h (small part, though) or in Pushing Tin. Nothing staged about her performances there.

But I have to say, Marion looks more and more like the ideal choice. Cate or Marion, I'd be a happy camper if Nolan goes that way. But whoever they cast, they HAVE to bring teh sexy.

Edit: Hm, she'll be acting opposite Bale in Public Enemies (hopefully). It should be a good crash test, if you ask me.
Yup. She looked great in The Shipping News too. With the brown hair and all. She looks pretty sexy and Selina-like IMO in the movie and especially in these posters.
Honestly, she might not be the hottest actress or the best looking out of all the choices, but I think shes beautiful(shes super hot IMO),great actress and I think she could pull off the role. Thats why shes my#1 choice.
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And here too
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[flickchick85]

I've heard she is doing one scene with Bale. Bale catches her tries to milk her for some information about Dillinger(Depp). And when you're getting interrogated by Bale, you could just guess what happens.
Well, sort of. At least, if they shot the version of the script that I read (and from screening reports, it sounds like they did)....

Bale's men are interrogating her rather brutally, methods which were sanctioned by him, she never breaks, but when he finally he finally arrives on the scene, she's a mess. This is when his character finally realizes that his obsession with catching Dillinger has gone too far, and he puts a stop to it. He basically tells her where the restroom is (they were denying her that), and she can't even get up, so he goes and picks her up and carries her to the bathroom. So he himself never actually interrogates her. He just rescues her from his own interrogators. But it's definitely a pivotal moment in the movie for his character.

So that's their scene. It's not much, but it's something, and there is a small opportunity to see some chemistry there.

[Ethermatic]

Cate Blanchett is certainly a wonderful actress. I wouldn't lie and say she isn't. While not the sexiest out there, there is something very pretty and elegant about her. She's an attractive woman, certainly.

Personally, I just don't see her as Selina Kyle/Catwoman. That's all. It just doesn't motivate or inspire me any. I'm not opposed to being proven wrong. I'm just sayin'.

[Gianakin_]

Yup. She looked great in The Shipping News too. With the brown hair and all. She looks pretty sexy and Selina-like IMO in the movie and especially in these posters.
Honestly, she might not be the hottest actress or the best looking out of all the choices, but I think shes beautiful(shes super hot IMO),great actress and I think she could pull off the role. Thats why shes my#1 choice.

Look, hotness and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And... well, I've got a huge crush on her. Enormous. I think she's hot, sexy, beautiful, and is full of magnitude.

She can be Selina if she wants to be, externally. Plus, there is absolutely no argument I will hear against her as an actress. Plus, I have this gut feeling that she'd have tons of chemistry with Bale, both of them being suave as hell when they want to be. I'm not worried about Bruce/Selina. Now, Catwoman/Bats? I really can't say at this point.

[batboy99]

^Great minds think alike :p. I have a HUGE crush on Cate, even one of my teachers know! LOL.

[[A]]

Ok..

[batboy99]

Lol I know. She's really into movies and every movie I talk about ends up with Blanchett in it and she said ''You really like Blanchett don't you?''

[Doctor Jones]

Blanchett is my favorite actress. She can disolve in every role she plays. I could certainly see her as Selina Kyle. I'll have to think of her more as Catwoman. She has a certain voice that I don't neccessarilly connect with when I think of Catwoman but if she was cast, I'd be fine with it.

Plus, she was damn sexy as Spalko on Indy 4. That accent, the control. I've never been attracted to a woman with power but Blachett is an exception.

[batboy99]

Shes my favorite actress too. Shes very sexy, especially in The Shippnig News and Notes on a Scandal(loved the scene where she put on that black eye liner makeup)

[Jack Ups]

She is an amazing actress, and i dont mind who Nolan casts since he knows what he's doin....but as Catwoman its a no from me.

[Crook]

Blanchett is my favorite actress. She can disolve in every role she plays. I could certainly see her as Selina Kyle. I'll have to think of her more as Catwoman. She has a certain voice that I don't neccessarilly connect with when I think of Catwoman but if she was cast, I'd be fine with it.

Plus, she was damn sexy as Spalko on Indy 4. That accent, the control. I've never been attracted to a woman with power but Blachett is an exception.
:funny:

[kid dropper]

Yeah i didn't want to point that out, but i thought it was pretty telling as well. Its hard to defend superheroes and other genre entertainment as something more than male-centric power fantasies when sadly that aligns so clearly with the mindset of too many geeks.

[Doctor Jones]

Edit.

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah i didn't want to point that out, but i thought it was pretty telling as well. Its hard to defend superheroes and other genre entertainment as something more than male-centric power fantasies when sadly that aligns so clearly with the mindset of too many geeks.

Uh huh. That's exactly what I meant. :whatever:

[WeaponXProject]

I dont think a professional trouble-maker and thrillseeker wouldnt flaunt. Confidence? Hell yea. Passion? Yea, but about freedom. Someone passion about freedom wouldnt be introvert. We are talking about a character who over the years has been made into a character looking for an escape from an abusive past trying to live with no limits. I am having a hard time seeing this character confident yet humble, or a person of few but important words. She should run her mouth and smile in the face of danger. It is superficially corny but it is fueled by very dark and emotional reasons. It is not naturally corny because it is a corny persona she applies to Catwoman the same way Bruce Wayne applies an introvert persona to Batman.

I guess we'll have to wait and see Nolan's approach if she so happens to appear in the next movie but I would prefer her to be much more like she was in Batman Returns. I would prefer a more serious approach to the character than even that, though.

[Crook]

Uh huh. That's exactly what I meant. :whatever:
What did you mean, then?

[cerealkiller182]

I guess we'll have to wait and see Nolan's approach if she so happens to appear in the next movie but I would prefer her to be much more like she was in Batman Returns. I would prefer a more serious approach to the character than even that, though.

I think you are mistaking serious for dull. Dent was very lighthearted at the beginning of TDK, but he was serious. Alfred spouts off plenty of one-liners, but he was serious. Serious doesnt mean humorless. You act like I just want to smack a big smiley face on Catwoman and have her throw pies at Batman. I dont think the Joker should be the only one allowed to laugh just because in general the movie is described as "dark"

[kid dropper]

Now id pay to see that

[WeaponXProject]

I think you are mistaking serious for dull. Dent was very lighthearted at the beginning of TDK, but he was serious. Alfred spouts off plenty of one-liners, but he was serious. Serious doesnt mean humorless. You act like I just want to smack a big smiley face on Catwoman and have her throw pies at Batman.

Okay, nothing I said in my post was about your take on the character. My point is that I want her to be like Pfeiffer's only less "licking herself" or acting like a cat.

I was speaking in general and I said nothing about a character to be dull what so ever. Nothing I said spoke about your post being silly or anything. You didn't like Trinity in Matrix, great. That's cool but I do want her to have passion about things and a certain confidence that isn't to flaunting. I definitely don't want an over-sexual take on the character.

Just cause I don't want her to be goofy doesn't mean I want them to be dull.

[cerealkiller182]

Okay, nothing I said in my post was about your take on the character. My point is that I want her to be like Pfeiffer's only less "licking herself" or acting like a cat.

I was speaking in general and I said nothing about a character to be dull what so ever. Nothing I said spoke about your post being silly or anything. You didn't like Trinity in Matrix, great. That's cool but I do want her to have passion about things and a certain confidence that isn't to flaunting. I definitely don't want an over-sexual take on the character.

Just cause I don't want her to be goofy doesn't mean I want them to be dull.

Im trying to figure out what you mean by "more serious," because you seem to just want to make her a carbon copy of Batman and make her humorless and humble (which I dont see working even in the least)

For clarity sake, what is it you think she should be passionate about?

[kid dropper]

im with you, Weapon X, in toning down the provocative sexual behavior. I dont want anything like Loeb's version. Id like her to be like on the animated series. No Jolie-style sexpot antics, just straight up adept cat burglaries and vigilante work. Thats sexy enough.

[Crook]

Gonna have to disagree with that last part. Catwoman's sexuality and risque behavior has never been about subtleties or relying on her occupational habits. She has been very overt, albeit not so much that it comes off as trying too hard.

[WeaponXProject]

Im trying to figure out what you mean by "more serious," because you seem to just want to make her a carbon copy of Batman and make her humorless and humble (which I dont see working even in the least)

For clarity sake, what is it you think she should be passionate about?

If you insist:

In my opinion, Nolan will have something happen to her or someone close to her that causes her to have to dawn a new personality to seek revenge on the ones that took someone from her. Which is similar to what happened to Bruce Wayne and he almost went through with killing "Chill" that killed his parents. She would have to have a passion inside her to seek revenge to not let someone like Batman stand in her way.

As for the sexuality part, I would like her to be sexy but perhaps not meowing at people or straddling them under mistletoes like in Batman Returns.

Yes I do want her to have similarities to Batman in being a masked character that believes in what she's doing.

[Crook]

Not sure about the revenge thing. What I liked about Selina, is that creating Catwoman wasn't totally born out of a personal vendetta. Rather, an impersonal crusade.

[Doctor Jones]

What did you mean, then?

I just meant that Blanchett showed that being in control was sexy.

[WeaponXProject]

I like that take on Catwoman too, Crook. I'm just a fan of the Catwoman from Batman Returns who sought revenge on Max Schrek but still embraced the new side that was created. I would prefer her to create this other side on her own or dawn it rather than falling from a sky scraper.

[StorminNorman]

When will this Cate Blanchet talk die?

[Laderlappen]

When will the Kate Beckinsale talk die?

[jmc]

When will the Kate Beckinsale talk die?

When every copy of Underworld is destroyed.

[The Major]

im with you, Weapon X, in toning down the provocative sexual behavior. I dont want anything like Loeb's version. Id like her to be like on the animated series. No Jolie-style sexpot antics, just straight up adept cat burglaries and vigilante work. Thats sexy enough.
I'd like to be like and the costume to look like Brubaker's Catwoman run.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'd perfer Beckinsale over Jolie. Beckinsale gets way too much flack. She isn't the bees knees but she's capable of solid performances. Underworld wasn't going to show off any actresses acting chops, judging an actor based off of those films is ridiculous.

Watch SnowAngels to see what she's capable of, if you still don't like her, so be it.

That all being said, I'd perfer the role go to someone else.

[jmc]

I'd perfer Beckinsale over Jolie. Beckinsale gets way too much flack. She isn't the bees knees but she's capable of solid performances. Underworld wasn't going to show off any actresses acting chops, judging an actor based off of those films is ridiculous.

Watch SnowAngels to see what she's capable of, if you still don't like her, so be it.

That all being said, I'd perfer the role go to someone else.

The only reason Beckinsale is even mention 90% of the time is because of those Underworld movies. And what good performances she has done have been few and far between.

[Gianakin_]

When every copy of Underworld is destroyed.

One can only dream...

[july]

I don't want Catwoman to be too slick, I want her to be edgy and raw but sexy at the same time. I kinda imagine her to be like the Anne Parillaud character in the French film 'La Femme Nikita', she played a junkie whore put on death row for murder but later recruited by he government to be an assassin. Some of the scenes in that movie were great and very catwoman-like (but I don't want Catwoman to be junkie whore).

[Golgo-13]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/AVSyl.jpg

Nikki Aycox

[batboy99]

Looks like Mia Sara's Harley Quinn...

[vibeke_T]

Why are these all white women? Thandie Newton should be Catwoman... DUH

[Majik1387]

Thandie Newton is way too frail looking of an actress to be Catwoman.

[vibeke_T]

Thandie Newton is way too frail looking of an actress to be Catwoman.


she can always woman-up! she was a dancer...so she's graceful

[WeaponXProject]

Oops...dup...

[[A]]

When I think of ugly, I think of Thandie Newton.

[CaptainClown]

I agree she is ugly, Newton has this alien like quality to her.

[Ace of Knaves]

I'd still give it a go though. ;)

[WeaponXProject]

When I think of ugly, I think of Thandie Newton.

I think she is pretty but sometimes I think she can be fugly. As for ugly, I gotta go with Maggie G. She looked drugged out all of TDK with saggy bags under her eyes.

[Majik1387]

she can always woman-up! she was a dancer...so she's graceful
Eh depends what kind of dancer she is.
I think she is pretty but sometimes I think she can be fugly.
I agree.

[vibeke_T]

Yall are mean!!! But...she just has to gain some weight...and she'll look normal again!!

I wanna see a woman of COLOR in this role...too many white women make it BORING! ;)

[Cunning Stunts]

Yall are mean!!! But...she just has to gain some weight...and she'll look normal again!!

I wanna see a woman of COLOR in this role...too many white women make it BORING! ;)

That's just as racist as the rest of the people here saying, "[Character] can't be black." Who gives a damn about race? I want PERFORMANCE.

[CaptainClown]

This has nothing to do about race, she just isn't appealing. She has the look of a sickly woman and reeks of this stench we will call mediocre B movies.

[WeaponXProject]

^ Crash, don't forget about that. She was great in it.

She definitely needs meat on her bones. As for the mediocre part Katie Holmes is the epitome of mediocre and she was in BB. Thandie is way better than that, IMO.

[CaptainClown]

She was mediocre in crash. Then again I have an unreasonably high criteria for actors and actresses. Katie Holmes wasn't mediocre either, she was sub-par.

[Laderlappen]

Why are these all white women? Thandie Newton should be Catwoman... DUHCatwoman have more non-white suggestions than any character.

[Ace of Knaves]

Why don't they just re-cast everyone so it's a multi cultural film? Just for the sake of it.

[vibeke_T]

^ Crash, don't forget about that. She was great in it.

She definitely needs meat on her bones. As for the mediocre part Katie Holmes is the epitome of mediocre and she was in BB. Thandie is way better than that, IMO.

Thandie has been in good movies...but you take what you can get, right?

Anyway...She seems more believable as a catwoman...and she's not incredibly high profile...but recognizable...the list you have...has too many typical choices. I'd rather have a total unknown than most of the people up there. The point is, regardless of who IS chosen, its at the director's discretion...and he can command a unique and beautiful performance from anyone. He is very masterful in that respect. Heath is testimony to that.

[vibeke_T]

But...I do heart Cate Blanchette...but I think she'd be wrong for this role...

[Blackman]

But...I do heart Cate Blanchette...but I think she'd be wrong for this role...


co sign

[batboy99]

But Newton isnt?

[CaptainClown]

But Newton isnt?
Ya, I am scratching my head at this one.

[Laderlappen]

Thandie has been in good movies...but you take what you can get, right?

Anyway...She seems more believable as a catwoman...and she's not incredibly high profile...but recognizable...the list you have...has too many typical choices. I'd rather have a total unknown than most of the people up there. The point is, regardless of who IS chosen, its at the director's discretion...and he can command a unique and beautiful performance from anyone. He is very masterful in that respect. Heath is testimony to that.Im banging my head on the wall. You dont think the reason Heath was great had anything to do with that he was a great actor? Or is that too logical?

[vibeke_T]

Ya, I am scratching my head at this one.

Not saying that Cate doesnt fit in the Nolan-verse...but maybe as something OTHER than catwoman...something better? I LOVE Cate's acting...she can do NO wrong.

[Blackman]

But Newton isnt?

newton is too....

I honestly think my choices are
Kate Beckinsale
Michelle Monaghan (SP.)
Charlize THeron

[Majik1387]

You should think over your choices...

[batboy99]

Heath was great from the beginning, he just gave us another great performance.

As for Cate being all ''wrong'' for the role....

She can be elegant and graceful(Benjamin Button), she can have a rough life and be in a rough situation(Notes on a Scandal. Veronia Guerin), she can be *****y and feisty(The shipping News) and she can be powerful and in control(Indiana Jones). She also looks great with dark hair and dark makeup.


She seems like a good fit to me...

[CaptainClown]

Not saying that Cate doesnt fit in the Nolan-verse...but maybe as something OTHER than catwoman...something better? I LOVE Cate's acting...she can do NO wrong.
That isn't the point we are trying to make. The actress you suggested is mediocre and inappropriate on a spectrum of levels, where Cate has some small traits similar but you don't want to see her. We are scratching our heads as to why you would want that other actress.

[vibeke_T]

Im banging my head on the wall. You dont think the reason Heath was great had anything to do with that he was a great actor? Or is that too logical?


Now this is just my personal opinion, but I was NEVER impressed by anything Heath did before TDK...but seriously, on the real, good acting cant save bad direction...Great direction inspires great acting

[Laderlappen]

Now this is just my personal opinion, but I was NEVER impressed by anything Heath did before TDK...but seriously, on the real, good acting cant save bad direction...Great direction inspires great actingAre you serious? The Joker wasnt even his best performance.
And bad actors are always bad, no matter how good the directed.

[Majik1387]

vibeke_T, I can sort of understand why you'd think of Newton for Catwoman, but the Rock for Penguin?:dry:

[CaptainClown]

The Brothers Grimm was an example of bad direction with a good actor. Heath was an amazing actor in that poor poor poor movie.

[Ace of Knaves]

And "Sin Eater". He was good in that for what he had to work with.

[CaptainClown]

oh um "the order" that one?

[Crook]

Yall are mean!!! But...she just has to gain some weight...and she'll look normal again!!

I wanna see a woman of COLOR in this role...too many white women make it BORING! ;)

Why don't they just re-cast everyone so it's a multi cultural film? Just for the sake of it.
Thanks for saving me the time.

Heath was great from the beginning, he just gave us another great performance.

As for Cate being all ''wrong'' for the role....

She can be elegant and graceful(Benjamin Button), she can have a rough life and be in a rough situation(Notes on a Scandal. Veronia Guerin), she can be *****y and feisty(The shipping News) and she can be powerful and in control(Indiana Jones). She also looks great with dark hair and dark makeup.


She seems like a good fit to me...
Those are all very generic descriptions however. More prudent, casting this role isn't merely a check-list. It has to meld together well for this specific part. Cate's "beauty" is old-school attraction, she doesn't have that modern flair. No matter how much makeup they put on her or how good her acting is. I honestly don't think Cate is fit for Catwoman going by this regard.

Are you serious? The Joker wasnt even his best performance.
Plenty will disagree.

vibeke_T, I can sort of understand why you'd think of Newton for Catwoman, but the Rock for Penguin?:dry:
Not touching this one. :funny:

[Laderlappen]

Plenty will disagree. Around here? Probably.

[Crook]

Around everywhere, actually. :o

[Ace of Knaves]

The only performance that comes close to Joker was Skip in Lords of Dogtown IMO. Ennis Del Mar was good as well, but I don't think he was that much of a challenge for him.

[Ace of Knaves]

oh um "the order" that one?

Yea, that one! :hehe: What a atrocious film.

[CaptainClown]

Yea, that one! :hehe: What a atrocious film.
It was an interesting concept, poorly executed and rather boring.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea it was a good idea, but as proved many times before, you need more than just a good idea.

[Golgo-13]

Thandie Newton is way too frail looking of an actress to be Catwoman.

Sanaa Lathan FTW.

[Crook]

Youth & athleticism for-the-counter. :o

[Ace of Knaves]

The bird in AvP? HAHAAHAHA...and I though my jokes were bad...

[Laderlappen]

Around everywhere, actually. :oThat is very wrong. Maybe everywhere you are.

[CaptainClown]

ugh Sanaa, I just straight up dislike her in every way possible

[Crook]

That is very wrong. Maybe everywhere you are.
Well you've proven on more than one occasion here, that where ever you are, is far from the reality of the majority. :o

[Ace of Knaves]

That is very wrong. Maybe everywhere you are.

Well what do you think is his best performance then?

[vibeke_T]

vibeke_T, I can sort of understand why you'd think of Newton for Catwoman, but the Rock for Penguin?:dry:



thats an obvious joke... ;)

[batboy99]

Sanaa Lathan FTW.

Id take Rosario and Gina Torres for Catwoman over Sanaa and Newton.

[vibeke_T]

Sanaa Lathan FTW.

i like sanaa...but niet!

[Cunning Stunts]

That is very wrong. Maybe everywhere you are.

Do you just make a list of things to say to stir people up?

Ask just about anyone who Heath Ledger is nowadays, and they'll answer, "The Joker."

He turned in an insane performance with The Joker, and quite possibly one of the best on-screen performances ever done (in a long time, at least).

What makes you think that just because YOU don't think The Joker was his best performance that nobody else does? Go ask around a bit... I think you'll feel an odd feeling in your stomach.

We call that "realizing you're wrong."

[vibeke_T]

Id take Rosario and Gina Torres for Catwoman over Sanaa and Newton.

What about Rosie Perez?





not

[batboy99]

I thought you were against white people?(Ok, she isnt actually white, but she looks pretty white) ;)


Hell, Id evne take Kerry Washington....

[Laderlappen]

Dont be a dick Crook. Many people I know, and on the forums where people have simular taste as me, Heath in Brokeback is a more loved performance than TDK. For younger people or people that are more looking forward to movies like Transformers 2 or Terminater 4 than films like Shutter Island, Tree of Life, or Nine(not that thats wrong), its very likely that Heath Joker is the more popular one. If you say that everybody or everywhere people prefer Heath's Joker, then you dont deserve to say ANYBODY is far from reality, because you are living in a fantasy world. Grow up Crook.

[CaptainClown]

If i had to pick an ethnic Catwoman, specifically African-American.
Paula Patton
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/Lawrence2008/paula.jpg
or maybe Zoe Saldana
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/CHEF1/Zoe_Saldana-1.jpg

not really keen on both

[Laderlappen]

Do you just make a list of things to say to stir people up?

Ask just about anyone who Heath Ledger is nowadays, and they'll answer, "The Joker."

He turned in an insane performance with The Joker, and quite possibly one of the best on-screen performances ever done (in a long time, at least).

What makes you think that just because YOU don't think The Joker was his best performance that nobody else does? Go ask around a bit... I think you'll feel an odd feeling in your stomach.

We call that "realizing you're wrong."I never said Everybody prefer his performance in Brokeback. Dont make things up. I said everybody DOESNT prefer the Joker. I didnt pick a fight. Just because I said my opinion that some of you disagree with doesnt mean Im picking a fight.

[Cunning Stunts]

I never said Everybody prefer his performance in Brokeback. Dont make things up. I said everybody DOESNT prefer the Joker. I didnt pick a fight. Just because I said my opinion that some of you disagree with doesnt mean Im picking a fight.

I'm pretty sure you made the blatant statement toward Crook that only everywhere he was is where you'll find the Heath Ledger's Joker fans (As opposed to his Brokeback Mountain fans), and that The Joker isn't his most praised and excellent performance. Basically, you said that your opinion is the majority's. And I'm making the blatant statement that if you ask a great deal of people, they'd heartily disagree with you.

I have yet to see Brokeback Mountain, and I'm sure it's great, but there hasn't been this much hype, praise, and Oscar-talk about a performance this early before and to this extent afterward that I can remember. I do know he was nominated for an Oscar in Brokeback Mountain, but it'll be the crime of the decade if he doesn't get an Oscar for his Joker performance.

[Golgo-13]

If i had to pick an ethnic Catwoman, specifically African-American.
Paula Patton
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/Lawrence2008/paula.jpg
or maybe Zoe Saldana
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/CHEF1/Zoe_Saldana-1.jpg

not really keen on both

Patton over these two. Zoe, as cute as she is, looks a little TOO young, for my liking.

[batboy99]

OMG how did I forget Patton? Yes, Patton too!

[vibeke_T]

it'll be the crime of the decade if he doesn't get an Oscar for his Joker performance.


true that

[Laderlappen]

I'm pretty sure you made the blatant statement toward Crook that only everywhere he was is where you'll find the Heath Ledger's Joker fans (As opposed to his Brokeback Mountain fans), :huh: How is that even offensive? Crook said that everywhere people prefer Heaths performance in TDK. This is a false statement, because many people I agree with prefer his performance in Brokeback. So if I know people that prefer Heath in Brokeback, and if Crook says that everywhere he is people prefer his performance in TDK, how could I possibly be wrong by saying 'only where you are'?
and that The Joker isn't his most praised and excellent performance. Basically, you said that your opinion is the majority's. And I'm making the blatant statement that if you ask a great deal of people, they'd heartily disagree with you.When does I ever say anything like this? 'Everybody doesnt like his performance in TDK more' doesnt equal 'everybody prefer his performance in Brokeback'. This happens all the time here and is really annoying(and offensive).

it'll be the crime of the decade if he doesn't get an Oscar for his Joker performance.Here I agree.

[Cunning Stunts]

:huh: How is that even offensive? Crook said that everywhere people prefer Heaths performance in TDK. This is a false statement, because many people I agree with prefer his performance in Brokeback. So if I know people that prefer Heath in Brokeback, and if Crook says that everywhere he is people prefer his performance in TDK, how could I possibly be wrong by saying 'only where you are'?
When does I ever say anything like this? 'Everybody doesnt like his performance in TDK more' doesnt equal 'everybody prefer his performance in Brokeback'. This happens all the time here and is really annoying(and offensive).

Here I agree.

I never said anything about offensive. I said you say things to stir people up because this is the third or fourth incident in a short period in which I've seen you trolling other threads telling people how easy acting is, or saying things that you more than likely know aren't true...

This time, the minute Crook made mention of people disagreeing with you, you began spouting off about how he was wrong.

You said, "That is very wrong. Maybe everywhere you are." First off, he's wrong. So apparently we can't find Heath's Joker fans in very many places (because I'm pretty sure the majority of the posters on these boards do not live in the same area). Then, only everywhere Crook is lies the "Heath's Joker" buffs?

Try everywhere I am too. I don't know anyone talking about Brokeback Mountain anymore (or quite frankly, any of his other performances), and my "circles" aren't just confined to my neighborhood.

[Laderlappen]

You are annoying the crap out of me Cunn and you're being a sucha big jerk now that Im this close of putting you on ignore. Is it really so hard for you to understand?

That STATEMENT is wrong. Read what Im quoting. Again for the 2nd time in an hour(I cant f'cking believe this) 'everybody doesnt prefer TDK' =/= 'everybody prefer BBM'. All I have said is that everybody doesnt like TDK more than BBM. In what world does that mean 'my opinion is right and yours is wrong'? In what possibly way do I 'stir people up' when I say 'everybody doesnt prefer TDK'?

Cunn, you need to start making up things I havent said and say 'when you say this you mean this' when I dont. Its disrespectful and its very mean.

[vibeke_T]

can you guys be nice...?

[Crook]

That STATEMENT is wrong.
Explain. Is there a specific area you are referring to where there isn't any one that prefers Heath's Joker? I assumed it was obvious that when I used the term "everywhere", it didn't mean "everyone".

Read what Im quoting. Again for the 2nd time in an hour(I cant f'cking believe this) 'everybody doesnt prefer TDK' =/= 'everybody prefer BBM'.All I have said is that everybody doesnt like TDK more than BBM.
I never said this. I implied far more people favor Joker than Ennis, however.

[batboy99]

Can you guys please such the **** up now please? You guys are both awesome ,but you guys are getting on everyones nerves now.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea people, chill, take a leaf out of my book, a cannabis leaf. :up:

Lader you are entitled to your opinion, but I must say, sometimes you do come across quite abrasive. But I suppose that goes for a lot of people.

The fact is TDK is a lot fresher in the memory of everyone, it wasn't just a new film this year, it was a cinematic event. And with Joker being Heaths last full role and it being the absolute definition of scenery chomping brilliance, it's going to be very popular, I would say more popular than Ennis. But thats just my opinion. The same way that IMO Skip is my second favourite performance by Ledger.

[Laderlappen]

I never said this. I implied far more people favor Joker than Ennis, however.That is probably true. What exactly did you mean by everywhere then? Are you saying that everywhere there is atleast 1 person that prefer TDK? If yes then yes there probably is.

batboy99 Im just trying to defend myself from these attacks. Again IM not saying that more people prefer BBM.

[Crook]

Can you guys please such the **** up now please? You guys are both awesome ,but you guys are getting on everyones nerves now.
...what ya gonna do, punk? :o

That is probably true. What exactly did you mean by everywhere then? Are you saying that everywhere there is atleast 1 person that prefer TDK? If yes then yes there probably is.
Not literally one person, probably a lot more. But...yes. What else could it possibly mean?

[Majik1387]

I got your Catwoman.:o

:meow: (http://fc11.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/011/5/2/Kitty_Catwoman_by_D3RX.jpg)click me

[Cunning Stunts]

You are annoying the crap out of me Cunn and you're being a sucha big jerk now that Im this close of putting you on ignore. Is it really so hard for you to understand?

That STATEMENT is wrong. Read what Im quoting. Again for the 2nd time in an hour(I cant f'cking believe this) 'everybody doesnt prefer TDK' =/= 'everybody prefer BBM'. All I have said is that everybody doesnt like TDK more than BBM. In what world does that mean 'my opinion is right and yours is wrong'? In what possibly way do I 'stir people up' when I say 'everybody doesnt prefer TDK'?

Cunn, you need to start making up things I havent said and say 'when you say this you mean this' when I dont. Its disrespectful and its very mean.

I never said this. I implied far more people favor Joker than Ennis, however.

Same here, Lader... I used Brokeback as the example since it's arguable his biggest role next to TDK.

Go ahead and put me on ignore. Honestly, I'm surprised I didn't do the same considering all the trolling you've done around here. You've insulted my personal profession blatantly (whether or not you claim you didn't say what was posted), which isn't something I take kindly to... So I'd re-think telling me to stop being "mean" or "disrespectful." Then, you called out someone's facts based on your own opinions, and then retorted that you'd never said them.

I apologize to everyone else for being involved in this "argument," and bringing down this thread.

[DCnightwing23]

Hmm i was thinking a Russian actor do the role, Something like that. Cause in the original Batman series catwoman was from moskow , and bruce waynes date in TDK was from the moskow ballet. Perhaps a hint to Catwoman?? But i really dont wanna see catwoman. I'd rather see a new Batman villain on the big screen.

[batboy99]

I got your Catwoman.:o

:meow: (http://fc11.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/011/5/2/Kitty_Catwoman_by_D3RX.jpg)click me
Haha!

And omg your avvy! Kick ass! Got bigger pics? I miss your manips!

[Laderlappen]

...what ya gonna do, punk? :o


Not literally one person, probably a lot more. But...yes. What else could it possibly mean?Everywhere like 'everywhere people like TDK more than BBM'. But whatever lets put that behind us.

And Cunn, you're unbelievable. At this point you SHOULD apologies for the things you say, but you keep on trolling attacking me because of my opinion and because you missunderstand things I said. Please stop! If you'd apologies, you wouldnt lose any dignity if you think that.

[flickchick85]

On a random note, Kate Winslet looked stunning at the Golden Globes last night. Anyone who still thinks she looks too wholesome, matronly, or "homely" for this role, as has been suggested in the past, is taking crazy pills. IMO, obviously. She's not my top pick, but her looks certainly aren't a factor against her there. I still think I'd prefer her to the other awesome Cate, if only because I could see her being a better match for Bale.

[WeaponXProject]

oh um "the order" that one?

Ewwww...everybody tries to forget that one but it's always gonna be there.

The only performance that comes close to Joker was Skip in Lords of Dogtown IMO. Ennis Del Mar was good as well, but I don't think he was that much of a challenge for him.

That's my other favorite he did besides Ned Kelly and TDK's Joker.

I got your Catwoman.:o

Hahahaha, that rules. Had to give you some props for that.

:meow: (http://fc11.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/011/5/2/Kitty_Catwoman_by_D3RX.jpg)click me

On a random note, Kate Winslet looked stunning at the Golden Globes last night. Anyone who still thinks she looks too wholesome, matronly, or "homely" for this role, as has been suggested in the past, is taking crazy pills. IMO, obviously. She's not my top pick, but her looks certainly aren't a factor against her there. I still think I'd prefer her to the other awesome Cate, if only because I could see her being a better match for Bale.

I still think she is a good candidate but she isn't that athletic looking a woman. Best actress in Hollywood by far if you ask me...next to Meryl

[jmc]

On a random note, Kate Winslet looked stunning at the Golden Globes last night. Anyone who still thinks she looks too wholesome, matronly, or ''homely'' for this role, as has been suggested in the past, is taking crazy pills. IMO, obviously. She's not my top pick, but her looks certainly aren't a factor against her there. I still think I'd prefer her to the other awesome Cate, if only because I could see her being a better match for Bale.

She seems to be getting more stunning every year.

[Alex Logan]

Why are these all white women? Thandie Newton should be Catwoman... DUH

No, just no.

Yall are mean!!! But...she just has to gain some weight...and she'll look normal again!!

I wanna see a woman of COLOR in this role...too many white women make it BORING! ;)

How does the color of a person's skin make them boring?

You should think over your choices...

Why should he think over his choices? If those people are who he wants then so be it.

[Heretic]

I want Bea Arthur...and no Im not going to think it over.

[margon]

Rose Byrne.

absolutely

[Ace of Knaves]

Did someone mention, Bea Arthur?!?!? :heart:



:hehe:

[Mistress Kizuna]

In regards to this whole skin color issue...

It's not the race or the color of Catwoman's skin that makes her a powerful character - it's her gender. She's a woman who comes very damn close to being Batman's equal. I wouldn't mind a black, Hispanic or even an Asian actress playing Catwoman, but the actress has to be imposing, seductive and powerful yet sympathetic at the same time. In other words, talented.

[WeaponXProject]

In regards to this whole skin color issue...

It's not the race or the color of Catwoman's skin that makes her a powerful character - it's her gender. She's a woman who comes very damn close to being Batman's equal. I wouldn't mind a black, Hispanic or even an Asian actress playing Catwoman, but the actress has to be imposing, seductive and powerful yet sympathetic at the same time. In other words, talented.

That's how I interpret her though they are on different ends of the spectrum they are similiar in other ways.

[Crook]

In regards to this whole skin color issue...

It's not the race or the color of Catwoman's skin that makes her a powerful character - it's her gender.
I don't recall anyone saying otherwise.

She's a woman who comes very damn close to being Batman's equal. I wouldn't mind a black, Hispanic or even an Asian actress playing Catwoman, but the actress has to be imposing, seductive and powerful yet sympathetic at the same time. In other words, talented.
One can argue that these traits, along with immense beauty and sexuality don't attribute to her being a powerful character either. Yet no one has made a stand to drop those either...

[Ace of Knaves]

Catwoman is the epitomy of dangerous sexuality or sexually dangerous, which ever way you wanna word it. If that isn't conveyed by the actress, then to me, it isn't Catwoman.

[Two-Face]

Kate Winslet :o

[Majik1387]

Kate WInslet is Poison Ivy.:cwink:

[Two-Face]

It's funny she forgot Angelina's name. Imagine if she wins Oscar.

[batboy99]

Either Ivy or Catwoman, I wouldnt mind her, but if we are talking seriously, than Catwoman. I don't think Ivy is showing up any time soon.

[flickchick85]

I agree, we probably won't see her. Catwoman's much more integral to Bruce's "personal journey," and therefore more viable for the next film.

She seems to be getting more stunning every year.
Too true, it's not fair. I recently saw a pic of her and Leo from the Globes or Oscars back in '98, and couldn't help but think, "whoa, upgrade." And it's certainly not like she was ugly then. I did always think red hair looked best on her.

[batboy99]

Ok, I will definetly get flammed for this ''uninspired'' suggestion, but would you guys be REALLY dissapointed if Sarah Michelle Geller was Catwoman? Either in Nolans movies or in general? Sure shes not the best actress(but I think shes getting better) and yeah shes short and she was Buffy, but would you guys be totally against it?




And before you say anything, NO IM NOT BIG ON THE IDEA so don't think things that are not true, it's just a suggestion...

[[A]]

^ I would be dissapointed. Don't worry though--she only makes DTV movies these days :hehe:

[batboy99]

Shes a little too petite for me and her voice wouldnt work, but she could definetly kick ass.

And c'mon, its not her fault lol. Shes not that bad, but her career didnt do too well after Buffy. Veronika Decides to Die doesnt look too bad.

I still love SMG though :(

If she had to be in a Batman movie, id take her for Ivy. I think shes pretty sexy and she can definetly play a ***** really well.

[[A]]

^ That book is horrible. The epitome of mindless cliché and obviousness. Obviously, it sold millions.

[batboy99]

Its a book? News to me.... Well the movie doesnt look bad, SMG looks pretty good in it, looks like shes doing better. I hope she gets a better career eventually though, I LOVE SMG!

[[A]]

Good for her.

[batboy99]

Yeah.

BTW, I hope people dont think it was a serious suggestion. Im just getting the ball rolling again.

[batboy99]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/leutwyler_009.jpghttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/leutwyler_001.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/m.jpg

[[A]]

^ :wow: I don't have these Cate pics!!!

[batboy99]

Thats because I'm awesome :):p Theres alot more more where those that came from....


Ahem....Cate Blanchett for Catwoman....

[Crook]

Ok, I will definetly get flammed for this ''uninspired'' suggestion, but would you guys be REALLY dissapointed if Sarah Michelle Geller was Catwoman? Either in Nolans movies or in general? Sure shes not the best actress(but I think shes getting better) and yeah shes short and she was Buffy, but would you guys be totally against it?




And before you say anything, NO IM NOT BIG ON THE IDEA so don't think things that are not true, it's just a suggestion...
That would be one of the biggest disappointments I'd have come across for this franchise. Catwoman is one of top favorite characters and to be relegated to SMG after the terrific Pfeiffer...that's worse than a kick to the gonads. :down

[Mercurius]

That would be one of the biggest disappointments I'd have come across for this franchise. Catwoman is one of top favorite characters and to be relegated to SMG after the terrific Pfeiffer...that's worse than a kick to the gonads. :down

Agreed 100%.

[Cunning Stunts]

That would be one of the biggest disappointments I'd have come across for this franchise. Catwoman is one of top favorite characters and to be relegated to SMG after the terrific Pfeiffer...that's worse than a kick to the gonads. :down

QF the mother effin' T. :up:

[Alex Logan]

That would be one of the biggest disappointments I'd have come across for this franchise. Catwoman is one of top favorite characters and to be relegated to SMG after the terrific Pfeiffer...that's worse than a kick to the gonads. :down

Agreed. :cwink:

[batboy99]

I would be a HUGE dissapointment. I do like her and all ,but not for Catwoman. But there are alot worse out there...like Jessica Biel for instance...

Honestly, I dont think I could accept SMG as Catwoman. I honestly think she would work for Ivy though. It was just an idea, I'm definetly not behind that choice whatsoever.

[batboy99]

Here are a few more random suggestions:

Emily Blunt
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/emily_blunt.jpg

Alexa Davalos
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/Alexa-Davalos-7o_preview.jpg


Billie Piper
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/callgirl-2.jpg

Lizzy Caplan
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/lizzycaplan.jpg

[Ethermatic]

When it comes to Cate Blanchett, an actress I do admire, I just don't see Selina Kyle/Catwoman. I can't quite visualize or imagine it in my head. She's more than a capable, award-winning actress, of course. But I visualize something more along the lines of a Sarah Essen or role similar to that.

[batboy99]

I understand, but I still want her for Selina. Especially after the shipping news. And she would do great as Essen, but I feel it would be a waste of her talents.

[Ethermatic]

I understand, but I still want her for Selina. Especially after the shipping news. And she would do great as Essen, but I feel it would be a waste of her talents.

While one can debate on actual screen time or the amount of lines she'd get, with Oldman's Gordon as Commissioner and plenty of pressure coming from the Mayor, the citizens of Gotham City and one or two new villains, I'd imagine his role would be a bit larger in the next film. Or, at least, as large as it was in The Dark Knight. Which, I don't believe, is a waste of her talents. Her role in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in my opinion, was a bit of a waste. As good as she was. Nolan has gotten notable actors to play very small or less important roles in both films already. I don't think it's impossible to waste her talents so long as the writing is good.

Seeing a sort of tension or drama between Gary Oldman and Cate Blanchett similar to what was shown in Frank Miller's Year One seems more enticing to me than Blanchett opposite Bale. I wouldn't want Gordon to be unfaithful like he was in that graphic novel, but the tension could be interesting.

Perhaps I prefer Blanchett's seductive prowess as more subtle and innocent, even natural, as opposed to what I think would be required with a seductive and tempting Selina Kyle/Catwoman. But that's just me, of course.

[batboy99]

I dont know, a part of me thinks she would have good chemistry with Bale. And she could be seductive no problem.

Ive just always imagine Julianne Moore or Miranda Otto as Essen.

[Ethermatic]

I dont know, a part of me thinks she would have good chemistry with Bale. And she could be seductive no problem.

Heh. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, my friend. I don't know, there's just something I like about her and Oldman playing opposite and off of each other. One of the few people that Gordon would probably trust as he tries to settle in and deal with the new threats and pressures of his role.

[batboy99]

Watch The Shipping News and Notes on a Scandal. Thats all I'll say :p

[Ethermatic]

Watch The Shipping News and Notes on a Scandal. Thats all I'll say :p

I've seen both already. I'm still of the same opinion.

[Laderlappen]

Essen for Cate is a waste of talent. She should not do these small roles. It shouldnt be suggested. Its an unnecessary expense, and you'll just end up dissapointed she didnt have a bigger role(Julianne Moore in Children of Men). Its a nothing role that is below her.

[The Major]

While I'm not a supporter of Blanchett in the Catwoman role she'd make a great Poison Ivy.

[Ethermatic]

Essen for Cate is a waste of talent. She should not do these small roles. It shouldnt be suggested. Its an unnecessary expense, and you'll just end up dissapointed she didnt have a bigger role(Julianne Moore in Children of Men). Its a nothing role that is below her.

Disagree if you'd like, of course. But saying it shouldn't be suggested or predicting that I would be disappointed is a bit of a push. I'm only speaking for myself, as should everyone else. Never the whole. If Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Tom Wilkinson can enjoy small roles in Batman Begins, anything is possible. Or even a majority of the cast in the decent Ocean's 11 films. As long as the role, opportunity and film seems fun, anything is possible.

[batboy99]

While I'm not a supporter of Blanchett in the Catwoman role she'd make a great Poison Ivy.
Now THAT is a big no no. Ivy should be SUPER sexy, that is a role I definetly dont see Blanchett in.

[vibeke_T]

While I'm not a supporter of Blanchett in the Catwoman role she'd make a great Poison Ivy.


yes...yes!

[vibeke_T]

ok...billie piper...thats a maybe...she's cool.

[batboy99]

yes...yes!
No..no. Ivy should be UBER hot. So hot that she turns heads in a room. Almost as if men could fall for her without her doing anything. Of course I think Cate is very sexy, but not Ivy sexy. Someone like Emily Blunt, Christina Hendricks or even Kate Winslet would be how I would envision Ivy.

[batboy99]

ok...billie piper...thats a maybe...she's cool.
Ya, i like her too.

[StorminNorman]

No..no. Ivy should be UBER hot. So hot that she turns heads in a room. Almost as if men could fall for her without her doing anything. Of course I think Cate is very sexy, but not Ivy sexy. Someone like Emily Blunt, Christina Hendricks or even Kate Winslet would be how I would envision Ivy.

Now see I actually think Ivy needs to be less SEXY and more Beautiful. I could see Blanchet as Ivy before Catwoman.

[RachelDawes]

Now see I actually think Ivy needs to be less SEXY and more Beautiful. I could see Blanchet as Ivy before Catwoman.

Same here, just because Ivy's a scientist.

[Ethermatic]

Fantastic photographs of Marion Cotillard. Doesn't make her budge from 2nd on my list behind Eva Green and ahead of Angelina Jolie. But, they at least cement her as a possibility in my mind.

Strangely, I'm quoting myself, but the more I read the graphic novels, see both actresses in clips and so on, I think Cotillard and Green are tied in my mind. Or, if not tied, at least to a point where I'd not only be content if either got the role, but absolutely excited about it. Of course, the character returning to the big screen is still a big if, and the odds that either would get chosen is quite... small.

[flickchick85]

Strangely, I'm quoting myself, but the more I read the graphic novels, see both actresses in clips and so on, I think Cotillard and Green are tied in my mind. Or, if not tied, at least to a point where I'd not only be content if either got the role, but absolutely excited about it. Of course, the character returning to the big screen is still a big if, and the odds that either would get chosen is quite... small.

Speaking objectively, I do think Cotillard has a very good chance of being a strong consideration. When you win the Oscar (Golden Globe, BAFTA, etc) for Best Actress in a Leading Role for what's been considered one of the greatest performances of all-time, you are instantly put high on "The List" of actresses to be considered for pretty much any role. It makes you a hot property, as you can tell from her post-Oscar roles: A Michael Mann summer crime epic (read: tent-pole pic) co-starring Johnny Depp & Christian Bale; a star-studded Rob "Chicago" Marshall adaptation of an uber-acclaimed Broadway musical featuring the likes of Daniel Day-Lewis, Nicole Kidman, Judi Dench, Penelope Cruz, Kate Hudson & Sophia Loren; and yet another Nicole Kidman movie after that. Couple that buzz with the fact that she looks, well, like that, and considering Nolan's a fan of international cinema and has no doubt seen La Vie En Rose...I think it's waaay more far-fetched a possibility that she wouldn't be seriously considered. She may not be a household name yet with audiences, but you can bet she is one in the industry now, and there's no way Warner Bros. is oblivious to her or the fact that her star is about to skyrocket.

Eva Green certainly has an "It Girl" status about her and will most likely be one of the names thrown around, as well.

But I'd be shocked if Cotillard isn't right near the top of Nolan's casting director's list. She's in the age bracket, has the look, and has recently won the highest acting honor there is and could easily hold her own in their prestigious cast. I don't see any situation in which Nolan wouldn't seriously consider her, or at least have her come in and read with Christian and compete for the role. What I question far more than, "would they seriously consider her," is "Would she consider it?" I honestly don't know what kind of splash Nolan's Batman franchise has made with the French - that is, I don't know if she'd be aware of how well-respected they are here - and she doesn't strike me as the type who would even have it on her radar otherwise. The only variable that makes me think it's likely she would consider doing it is that she has a separate, American agent for Hollywood (as all/most international stars do), and so far, her agent seems to be steering her in all the right directions. And if I were that agent trying to push her career forward, after Public Enemies, Nine, and The Rivals, I'd probably be saying, "ok, it's time to find a good, respectable blockbuster to get you in." And we can bet that agent knows the most respectable blockbuster franchise around.

[Crook]

...after reading all that, it'd reeeaallly suck if Catwoman wasn't even in the third movie at all. :O

[flickchick85]

Hahaha, yes it would, Crook. Yes it would.

But who are we kidding, the movie would still rock, if Nolan had any say.

[Laderlappen]

Disagree if you'd like, of course. But saying it shouldn't be suggested or predicting that I would be disappointed is a bit of a push. I'm only speaking for myself, as should everyone else. Never the whole. If Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Tom Wilkinson can enjoy small roles in Batman Begins, anything is possible. Or even a majority of the cast in the decent Ocean's 11 films. As long as the role, opportunity and film seems fun, anything is possible.I assume that Essen if she's in it is a smaller character than Alfred and Lucious. MAYBE as big as Falcone. Plus Cate is a much bigger actress now when Caine or Freeman is. Cate is one of our times 2 greatest actresses, and Freeman and Caine's careers are not exactly what they used to be. SO I dont think you can compare. Not with O11 either, all the great actors in that are the leading ones. And Again, not at Blanchett's level.
It IS ok for Cate to do supporting roles. She does it sometimes(too often) but she always plays one of the main characters.

[Ledlunar]

Judi Dench would be a great Catwoman


..........Not- Borat

[jmc]

Speaking objectively, I do think Cotillard has a very good chance of being a strong consideration. When you win the Oscar (Golden Globe, BAFTA, etc) for Best Actress in a Leading Role for what's been considered one of the greatest performances of all-time, you are instantly put high on ''The List'' of actresses to be considered for pretty much any role. It makes you a hot property, as you can tell from her post-Oscar roles: A Michael Mann summer crime epic (read: tent-pole pic) co-starring Johnny Depp & Christian Bale; a star-studded Rob ''Chicago'' Marshall adaptation of an uber-acclaimed Broadway musical featuring the likes of Daniel Day-Lewis, Nicole Kidman, Judi Dench, Penelope Cruz, Kate Hudson & Sophia Loren; and yet another Nicole Kidman movie after that. Couple that buzz with the fact that she looks, well, like that, and considering Nolan's a fan of international cinema and has no doubt seen La Vie En Rose...I think it's waaay more far-fetched a possibility that she wouldn't be seriously considered. She may not be a household name yet with audiences, but you can bet she is one in the industry now, and there's no way Warner Bros. is oblivious to her or the fact that her star is about to skyrocket.

Eva Green certainly has an ''It Girl''; status about her and will most likely be one of the names thrown around, as well.

But I'd be shocked if Cotillard isn't right near the top of Nolan's casting director's list. She's in the age bracket, has the look, and has recently won the highest acting honor there is and could easily hold her own in their prestigious cast. I don't see any situation in which Nolan wouldn't seriously consider her, or at least have her come in and read with Christian and compete for the role. What I question far more than,''would they seriously consider her,'' is ''Would she consider it?'' I honestly don't know what kind of splash Nolan's Batman franchise has made with the French - that is, I don't know if she'd be aware of how well-respected they are here - and she doesn't strike me as the type who would even have it on her radar otherwise. The only variable that makes me think it's likely she would consider doing it is that she has a separate, American agent for Hollywood (as all/most international stars do), and so far, her agent seems to be steering her in all the right directions. And if I were that agent trying to push her career forward, after Public Enemies, Nine, and The Rivals, I'd probably be saying, '';ok, it's time to find a good, respectable blockbuster to get you in.'' And we can bet that agent knows the most respectable blockbuster franchise around.

You actually bring up some really good points here flickchick. Without doubt Nolan would be more than aware of her presence and her capabilities, the question you asked 'Would she consider it' though is something I would admit to never considering. And on top of whether Nolan's Batman series was well received in France is whether Batman in general is all that popular. How are comic character seen over there? Is the Batman mythology as well known? Any Frenchmen/women on the boards?

[jmc]

...after reading all that, it'd reeeaallly suck if Catwoman wasn't even in the third movie at all. :O

As much as I don't want the character put in just for the sake of it, I really feel something would be missing from the series if Catwoman was absent from a third film, it would almost feel incomplete, if there are three characters outside of Batman that best define the Batman mythology it's The Joker, Two-Face and Catwoman, and we've had two of them.

[[A]]

Don't mean to start a fight :oldrazz: but what about the Penguin--he's as big as Catwoman, to say the least :hehe:





Not that I wanna see him or the cat burglar in the 3rd one

[Ledlunar]

well he's BIG but catwoman is a bit bigger of a character than penguin... She has a relationship with both bruce and batman.... like two face but theirs is not romantic.......

and joker.... well everyone knows joker is the big #1

Id say alot of villains are still ahead of penguin... he was a bigger villain I'd say in the Adam West days...

[[A]]

I know, I know.. and I agree. But now with Falcone and Maroni gone..

[Ledlunar]

haha Id be fine with him as a mob head... like how all those dick tracy mobsters had there nicknames his is penguin......... I wouldn't want to see a whole lot of him though,,, I find him boring

unless its like in Batman:TAS where he sword fights a screwdriver wielding Batman... haha

[[A]]

I just wanna see him flying with his umbrella :oldrazz:








..just kidding :hehe: that'd be as un-nolan as you can get

[a cupcake mess]

i'd love to see shannyn sossaman play a bad girl.

[[A]]

^ she's a cutie.

[Majik1387]

She's tried and failed.

[Johnny Drama]

i'd love to see shannyn sossaman play a bad girl.


no...

[batboy99]

Now see I actually think Ivy needs to be less SEXY and more Beautiful. I could see Blanchet as Ivy before Catwoman.
Now that to me is Catwoman. She should be beautiful more than sexy, but still with that sexy attitude. Ivy should just be super sexy.
Same here, just because Ivy's a scientist.
That is probably the most stupid reason I have ever heard. Why cant she be a sexy scientist?

[Crook]

There's a point to which it becomes unnecessary. Ivy's a pheromone-enhanced eco terrorist. At best, she could be the cute/sexy type and it wouldn't be any hindrance to how she's portrayed. As long as she looks convincingly alluring, that's all you need.

[The Major]

There's a point to which it becomes unnecessary. Ivy's a pheromone-enhanced eco terrorist. At best, she could be the cute/sexy type and it wouldn't be any hindrance to how she's portrayed. As long as she looks convincingly alluring, that's all you need.
Agreed.

[The Major]

That is probably the most stupid reason I have ever heard. Why cant she be a sexy scientist?
She can still be beautiful without looking like a Victoria's Secret model. Blanchett can do that. You have to take into account Nolan's Batman is very realistic. A great female scientist would be more concerned about their research than their looks.

[batboy99]

So? she can still be hot, maybe not as hot when she is actually Ivy, but still hot.. Thats not a good reason. And Ivy should almost look like a model, thats how hot she is.


And if Blanchett's looks are acceptable as Ivy ,than shes exeptable for Selina. Ivy should be very hot. Shes should be one of the hottest comic characters. Both her and Emma Frost. I love Cate, but she isnt super sexy, ESPECIALLY not for Ivy.

[batboy99]

There's a point to which it becomes unnecessary. Ivy's a pheromone-enhanced eco terrorist. At best, she could be the cute/sexy type and it wouldn't be any hindrance to how she's portrayed. As long as she looks convincingly alluring, that's all you need.
She shouldnt need any pheromone stuff. She should be naturally hot. Thats what makes her so alluring is her stunning looks. Sure with the pheromone dust ,she can make people do anything, but she should be so hot that she almost doesnt need any potions. Men should instantly want to be near her, just by looking at her.

The ''cute'' thing just doesnt cut it for Ivy, IMO. It will end u pbeing like TB Ivy. We dont want that. We want sexy ivy. Jim Lee Ivy.

[The Major]

So? she can still be hot, maybe not as hot when she is actually Ivy, but still hot.. Thats not a good reason.

You don't find Blanchett attractive? She's an incredibly beautiful actress IMO.

And Ivy should almost look like a model, thats how hot she is.

In a world that is Nolan's that's harder to make convincing then a comic book or animation. Reality has to effect the character a lot and being a super-model scientist isn't realistic, though being beautiful is.

[batboy99]

You clearly havent been reading ANY of my posts. Of course I find her attractive. If i didnt I wouldnt want her for Catwoman. I honestly thin kshes one of the most beautiful actresses ever, just not for Ivy.

Oh BS, its plenty realistic, there are many hot weomen in existence. and its a movie. Whether its more realistic or not, things can be bent.

[Crook]

She shouldnt need any pheromone stuff. She should be naturally hot. Thats what makes her so alluring is her stunning looks. Sure with the pheromone dust ,she can make people do anything, but she should be so hot that she almost doesnt need any potions. Men should instantly want to be near her, just by looking at her.
There aren't essential elements to her character. Nor was it even defined or even emphasized, as far as I know. I am not suggesting she should be supbar looking. Just that she doesn't need to be naturally and overtly a sex goddess.

The ''cute'' thing just doesnt cut it for Ivy, IMO. It will end u pbeing like TB Ivy. We dont want that. We want sexy ivy. Jim Lee Ivy.
That is why I put cute/sexy. Girls like Emily Blunt and Amy Adams fit that type. They look good, and with some make-up or the right hair they can look stunning. Think of the transformation Pfeiffer had in BR. From the lowly secretary to the fetishistic villainess. Same actress, but greatly different appearances.

[batboy99]

Adams does look great ,but she still comes off more as cute, even with makeup. Blunt, I agree with though. I actually did envision Pamela as being very pretty, but not as well kept as when she turns to ivy.

[flickchick85]

You actually bring up some really good points here flickchick. Without doubt Nolan would be more than aware of her presence and her capabilities, the question you asked 'Would she consider it' though is something I would admit to never considering. And on top of whether Nolan's Batman series was well received in France is whether Batman in general is all that popular. How are comic character seen over there? Is the Batman mythology as well known? Any Frenchmen/women on the boards?
Thanks jmc. And yeah, I certainly don't want to stereotype or anything, but if I were to guess, I just don't see Batman being all that big to the French. But like I said, she has an American agent, who's in charge of her Hollywood career, and Batman's certainly a big name to him/her. Another plus is that she kinda knows Christian now, having worked with him already, so I could see her considering it because of the cast. I would say Nolan too, but I don't know how well his non-Batman films would be known over there, either.


Re: Ivy - I dunno, I actually think it would make more sense for her to be more of a "maternal" beauty, or classic beauty, than uber-hot sexpot. Just because of the whole "mother earth" aspect and the fact that she's a scientist. And for some reason, I could see her seeming older than Bale more than I could see that working for Selina. So I guess I agree with those who could easier see Cate Blanchett in that role than Catwoman. But my top pick for Ivy is still Emily Blunt.

[batboy99]

I dont see it really. Ivy has just always been one of the hottest comic characters to me, her and Emma Frost. I just dont see the classic beauty working for her, or at least not Cate Blanchett. Kate Winslet on the other hand...

[Crook]

Praytell, have you seen ANY an significant female comic book character that DOESN'T look very hot with extravagant feminine features?

[batboy99]

I just think shes the HOTTEST, never said anything about the other ones not being hot, I just think her and Emma should be two of the hottest characters.

[Crook]

I'm just not seeing how you can gauge their hotness when practically all of them are drawn precisely to be perfection. Especially for a character who gets what she wants because of pheromones.

[Laderlappen]

I think I understand what batboy means and I agree. Ivy is like 100% sex, while Catwoman is a little bit more human.

[Crook]

Ivy got turned that way. I simply don't find it imperative Ivy be some sort of goddess even before her transformation. Combined with going as the guise of nature's nurturer/protector and needing chemicals to execute her plans, the sexpot schtick is take it or leave it for me. At the very least she should look attractive, yes. But it's more about attitude if anything.

Hell, acting style aside, I even thought Uma Thurman was convincing in the role.

[batboy99]

I'm just not seeing how you can gauge their hotness when practically all of them are drawn precisely to be perfection. Especially for a character who gets what she wants because of pheromones.
Well thats the artists style, so you cant change that, but I have always envisioned Ivy being super hot, hotter than Selina, Harley etc. Like Lader said, Ivy is pure sex, when Catwoman is more human.
Her attitude adds to the sexiness, but she should still be super hot imo.

Either way, I just dont see Cate as Ivy. And this is coming from a HUGE Cate fan. Whether she is supposed to be super sexy or not, I just dont see Blanchett in the role, if anything, Winslet should be Ivy.

[batboy99]

To those who were supporters of Blunt as Selina, shes playing Black Widow most likely, so I dont think that will happen :(. Too bad, I was kinda liking her.

[Golgo-13]

Ivy got turned that way. I simply don't find it imperative Ivy be some sort of goddess even before her transformation. Combined with going as the guise of nature's nurturer/protector and needing chemicals to execute her plans, the sexpot schtick is take it or leave it for me. At the very least she should look attractive, yes. But it's more about attitude if anything.

Hell, acting style aside, I even thought Uma Thurman was convincing in the role.

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[Crook]

'Tis true. People may not be fond of how it was written/acted, but it wasn't a far cry from how Ivy is written. I'm not a fan of West, Ward, Romero, or Gorshin's performances either, but I can't deny that their portrayals were faithful.

[az824]

Well, if Ivy shows up, Blunt would be a great Ivy.

And im ok with marion (she's not my fav choice) but she's ok. And i say NO to Cate, her beauty is too weird, it's not what Catwoman should be. Ive seen the billion pix of her in this thread and non of them have come near to convincing me of her being right for Selina. I guess her overly-prominant cheekbones make her look so weird, very unattractive

[The Major]

You clearly havent been reading ANY of my posts. Of course I find her attractive. If i didnt I wouldnt want her for Catwoman. I honestly thin kshes one of the most beautiful actresses ever, just not for Ivy.

Okay.

Oh BS, its plenty realistic, there are many hot weomen in existence.

Not many of them are scientific geniuses like Ivy.

and its a movie.

So what? Details matter in movies, and the audience who watches them. Nolan actually respects his audiences. He wants them to think. It won't be a brainless blockbuster where the audience has low expectations.

Whether its more realistic or not, things can be bent.
Only when they make sense. It won't in a realistic Batman film but it could in a film with a director who is more liberal with reality in adaptions.

[The Major]

I think I understand what batboy means and I agree. Ivy is like 100% sex, while Catwoman is a little bit more human.
From what I've read in the comics and Batman:TAS Ivy uses her sex appeal to get what she wants but rarely is interested in sex itself. She comes across to me almost like she doesn't have a use for it. All she cares about is protecting plant life, nothing else.

Catwoman uses her sexuality much more IMO.

[Melkay]

On the contrary, you just contradicted yourself: Just because Ivy is not interested in sex doesn't mean she doesn't exploits her sexuality for her interests. In fact, that's her primary method. Catwoman uses more her physical theft skills than her sexual appeal. She's openly flirtatious with Batman, of course, but I wouldn't like to see a Catwoman who does that with everybody. Her sexual innuendo shouldn't be for every character. Whereas Ivy plays the all-too-feminine, sometimes servient, always seductive femme fatale... Catwoman is more of a proud, tough girl, that doesn't play that game all the time. She just exlpoits her sexuality with those who she feels attracted to: i.e. Batman. The false seduction game is rare in her methods, especially when compared to Ivy.

[Ledlunar]

^ I agree... Catwoman is pretty much fascinated with Batman... Ivy is kindof a cruel *****

[Ethermatic]

On the contrary, you just contradicted yourself: Just because Ivy is not interested in sex doesn't mean she doesn't exploits her sexuality for her interests. In fact, that's her primary method. Catwoman uses more her physical theft skills than her sexual appeal. She's openly flirtatious with Batman, of course, but I wouldn't like to see a Catwoman who does that with everybody. Her sexual innuendo shouldn't be for every character. Whereas Ivy plays the all-too-feminine, sometimes servient, always seductive femme fatale... Catwoman is more of a proud, tough girl, that doesn't play that game all the time. She just exlpoits her sexuality with those who she feels attracted to: i.e. Batman. The false seduction game is rare in her methods, especially when compared to Ivy.

Indeed. Good reading.

[Hole Shot]

haven't visited this thread in weeks, yet the circle continues.

[elgato]

Ivy got turned that way. I simply don't find it imperative Ivy be some sort of goddess even before her transformation. Combined with going as the guise of nature's nurturer/protector and needing chemicals to execute her plans, the sexpot schtick is take it or leave it for me. At the very least she should look attractive, yes. But it's more about attitude if anything.

Hell, acting style aside, I even thought Uma Thurman was convincing in the role.

I think Uma would have done a beautiful some years ago

[jmc]

I think Uma would have been a great Ivy had the tone and the story been given a size 12 boot up the arse and replaced with something more serious.

[The Major]

I think Uma would have been a great Ivy had the tone and the story been given a size 12 boot up the arse and replaced with something more serious.
Agreed.

[WeaponXProject]

I think Uma would have been a great Ivy had the tone and the story been given a size 12 boot up the arse and replaced with something more serious.

Uma was cast well for that movie but the way they made her portray the character was vomit.

[batboy99]

Okay.


[QUOTE]

Not many of them are scientific geniuses like Ivy
.

Again, its a movie, things can be changed.


So what? Details matter in movies, and the audience who watches them. Nolan actually respects his audiences. He wants them to think. It won't be a brainless blockbuster where the audience has low expectations.


I dont mind realistic approaches, but movies should be something out of the ordinary. When I go to the movies, I want to watch something that isnt so realistic. Sure, its great to relate to characters, but I dont want it to be too realistic.

Only when they make sense. It won't in a realistic Batman film but it could in a film with a director who is more liberal with reality in adaptions

Obviously they have to make sense.

[batboy99]

Well, if Ivy shows up, Blunt would be a great Ivy.

And im ok with marion (she's not my fav choice) but she's ok. And i say NO to Cate, her beauty is too weird, it's not what Catwoman should be. Ive seen the billion pix of her in this thread and non of them have come near to convincing me of her being right for Selina. I guess her overly-prominant cheekbones make her look so weird, very unattractive
Holy f**k dude, you think everyone is unattractive!

[Blackman]

Holy f**k dude, you think everyone is unattractive!

i kind of agree with the other guy...Shes attractive (i dont know what az824 was complaining bout some damn cheek bones). I mean i'd tap that. But she doesnt seem like Catwoman. She beautiful, wife material...but shes not hot...

Like in a game of marry, bang (censored), kill
She would be the marry

[Blackman]

I have a question...what do people not like about Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman. I hear people say no to her but I never get an explanation