The New Catwoman Casting Thread

[Laderlappen]

You know this how? People thought Heath Ledger's casting for the Joker was a catastrophe.People are idiots.

I dont think Ricci meats the qualifications. Looks and talent.

[Brian Braddock]

She's got a forehead like a drive-in movie theatre;

But she's a good $**t, so we don't bust her chops so much.

[Two-Face]

Wednesday from the Addams Family.... aka Christina Ricci:

http://www.shakewellbeforeuse.com/images/christina-ricci.jpg

She's actually put her name out there for Selina, incidentally. She wants to play this role. But I'm afraid she just looks too young for Bale.



This is old news she said like when Begins came out. I think she's good actress I can see her play Harley but not Selina.

[Ace of Knaves]

All the more perfect for Catwoman. I think Selina should be somewhat creepy intriguing.



You know this how? People thought Heath Ledger's casting for the Joker was a catastrophe.

I know what how?

I said I don't think she would have a good chemistry with Bale, I didn't say I know anything.

[CaptainClown]

People are idiots.

I dont think Ricci meats the qualifications. Looks and talent.
:hehe:
She's got a forehead like a drive-in movie theatre;

But she's a good $**t, so we don't bust her chops so much.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/captain_ClownhaHa/HWDEZ9P6RHWTPYNTSW.jpg

[Laderlappen]

Wow, how did I make meet into meats?!

[p4poetic]

I know what how?

I said I don't think she would have a good chemistry with Bale, I didn't say I know anything.

I should have rephrased that. I meant that many people didn't think Ledger as the Joker wouldn't have worked for example, so Ricci, if cast, has the potential to prove a lot of people wrong, y'know? :woot:

People also thought Michael Keaton was a ridiculous choice for Batman. ZOMG HE'S A COMEDIAN!!!! BEETLEJUICE FOR BATMAN?! MR. MOM!!!

[Blackman]

I agree Ricci might make a decent Harley QUinn but no Catwoman

[elgato]

She looks fine here...

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg163/COOLCAT74/christina_ricci.jpg

she would be fine for me, she's like a petite sexy black cat, but as batboy99 says she would work better for a movie similar to the Tim Burton universe

[Crook]

Why Tim Burton, in particular?

[elgato]

because i imagine her giving a psychotic, dark, sensual interpretation like the one michelle pfeiffer did ;)

[Crook]

Ah. Funny you say that, I always found Ledger's Joker to be more Burton-like than Nicholson. In characterization and appearance.

[elgato]

Maybe you're right, lol, but, to be honest, I don't want Michelle's Catwoman again, with the leather stitched suit, I want the real Catwoman for the first time!!! Btw, what do you think of Rebeca Hall for the role? She has good acting skills, and has worked with Nolan before, maybe with some make up she would get a more aggressive look

[p4poetic]

Ah. Funny you say that, I always found Ledger's Joker to be more Burton-like than Nicholson. In characterization and appearance.

That's because he looks like Beetlejuice. :woot:

[batboy99]

Why Tim Burton, in particular?
I picture her being very dark, pale and a little bit more crazy rather than how the real Catwoman is.
But Ricci is my ''dark horse'' choice. I could see her as Harley too(which is weird that im suggesting her for two completely opposite roels)
She would be a different choice for Catwoman, but Id prefer a more faithful adaptation.

As for her forehead. You guys are making WAY too big of a deal. Sure she has a big forehead, but that doesnt make her ugly or something. Actually, I think it adds to her looks.Theres no problem with Selina having shorter or longer bangs at all. And that pic Crook posted looks very Selina like IMO. I got another one where she looks a little like Selina, Ill post it eventually.
Also, in one of the premieres for Black Snake Moan, I thought she looked pretty Selina like as well.

I do agree that shes a little skinny, she looks great with a little bit of weight.

[TheScarecrow]

Kate Winslet, Rachel Weisz, Scarlett Johannson, Emily Blunt or Jennifer Connelly.

[regwec]

I really can't abide Kate Winslett. I would feel gravely disappointed if she landed the part.

[Two-Face]

I really can't abide Kate Winslett. I would feel gravely disappointed if she landed the part.

I agree but I would give her chance if Nolan chose.

[regwec]

I'm not saying I wouldn't watch it, but Winslett is so far from my concept of feminine beauty and view of Catwoman that I may well find the experience unrewarding.

[Two-Face]

I understand reg, How would you see Batman meeting Catwoman for first time?

[p4poetic]

I understand reg, How would you see Batman meeting Catwoman for first time?

Hmm. I'm debating on whether he should meet Selina first or her as Catwoman. How about he caught in the act at the jewelry store first, and than meets her at one of his charity event dinners?

[regwec]

Possibly the most effective introduction for Catwoman would be for her to show up as an unwelcome distraction when Batman is about to take down some serious bad people. This would give her opportunity to taunt Batman with her playful evasiveness, as she is no threat to him, but comprimises his missions with her interefence.

[Lane & Kent]

Keri Russell should be Catwoman.

[That-Guy]

Keri Russell should be Catwoman.

:huh:

I don't know what confuses me more... the fact that Keri Russel's name is being brought up at all or the fact that 35 people actually voted for her.

What, is Jennifer Aniston not available?

[Two-Face]

Hmm. I'm debating on whether he should meet Selina first or her as Catwoman. How about he caught in the act at the jewelry store first, and than meets her at one of his charity event dinners?

Possibly the most effective introduction for Catwoman would be for her to show up as an unwelcome distraction when Batman is about to take down some serious bad people. This would give her opportunity to taunt Batman with her playful evasiveness, as she is no threat to him, but comprimises his missions with her interefence.

I love the ideas, would be better on big screen of course.

[Laderlappen]

:huh:

I don't know what confuses me more... the fact that Keri Russel's name is being brought up at all or the fact that 35 people actually voted for her.

What, is Jennifer Aniston not available?Keri Russell is a terrific young actress. One of the few choices that actually makes sense.

[namtaB]

Hmm. I'm debating on whether he should meet Selina first or her as Catwoman. How about he caught in the act at the jewelry store first, and than meets her at one of his charity event dinners?

You're focusing on the wrong area. Its not important how Batman/Wayne meets Catwoman/Selina. In TDK when Batman and Joker meet for the first time its during a fight and Batman says "Then you're gonna love me." Pretty cliche as first encounters go, but what made it epic was the introduction of the Joker and his intergration into the story well before his first face to face with Batman. Same with Two Face. When Batman and Two Face come face to face its while Two Face is holding a gun to Gordon's son and Batman says "You don't want to hurt the boy Harvey." Another very cliched first encounter that's been done in movies for decades. What's important is not their first encounter, but how Catwoman is introduced to the audience and how well they weave her into the story well before she meets Batman.

[Crook]

I'd say they're both important. I was looking forward to the first face-off between Batman and Joker, but it was underwhelming.

If you can make both events special, then go for it.

[WeaponXProject]

:huh:

I don't know what confuses me more... the fact that Keri Russel's name is being brought up at all or the fact that 35 people actually voted for her.

What, is Jennifer Aniston not available?


Some may disagree but I'm with you there.

[Alex Logan]

:huh:

I don't know what confuses me more... the fact that Keri Russel's name is being brought up at all or the fact that 35 people actually voted for her.

What, is Jennifer Aniston not available?

:pal:

I'd say they're both important. I was looking forward to the first face-off between Batman and Joker, but it was underwhelming.

If you can make both events special, then go for it.

Greatest avatar ever... ever.

[Watson]

Has anyone ever thrown January Jones name in the ring as a potential Selina Kyle?

Personally, I think she has what it takes. Shes a wonderful actress on Mad Men, she definitely could look the part. She's also 30, which puts her at the right age.

some pics are here

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2655619584/nm0005064

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2701036288/nm0005064

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2582877952/nm0005064

Just imagine her with brown hair ;)

[Blackman]

Has anyone ever thrown January Jones name in the ring as a potential Selina Kyle?

Personally, I think she has what it takes. Shes a wonderful actress on Mad Men, she definitely could look the part. She's also 30, which puts her at the right age.

some pics are here

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2655619584/nm0005064

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2701036288/nm0005064

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2582877952/nm0005064

Just imagine her with BLACK hair ;)


*Fixed*

But she might be alright. She doesnt seem as exotic as Kate Beckinsale, Michelle Monoghan, Keri Russell, or Eva Green. I love Mad Men tho. But still she doesnt seem like that good of a choice

[Blackman]

You know what actress I have been looking at lately is Michelle Monaghan

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2549061376/nm1157358
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/MichelleMonaganApr06.jpg

I think shes a good actress but my only problem is she ahs never done a role as big as Catwoman before. shes been in blockbusters (m:i:III, Eagle Eye) but she has never had a real action role where she kicks ass

[elgato]

that means nothing, bro, michelle pfeiffer never made an action role before playing Catwoman ;)

[jmc]

^ So true, I've never understood the mentality that an actor/actress has to have been in an action film prior to staring in an action blockbuster. Any good actor can cross genres and mediums.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^ So true, I've never understood the mentality that an actor/actress has to have been in an action film prior to staring in an action blockbuster. Any good actor can cross genres and mediums.You don't understand it because it doesn't make a lick on sense.

[Laderlappen]

I know, its ridiculous. Its like its only important that someone was been in an action movie, while how good the actress was in it doesnt matter. It isnt like if someone like Monaghan would go '**** what do I do here' when the director yells 'RUN' or 'KICK THAT GUY'.

[Blackman]

Did I say thats the only thing that should matter...no. Would I prefer to have an actress with more action scene experience yes. But I didnt say that was a requirement. Its like an addon. I;m not turning down other people's casting choices because they dont have action experience. Im just saying that that would be a benefit

[RockyBatboa]

Bad joke.

It's a shame, you've started with some good stuff.

I see C. Lee is right about you.


It wasnt that bad of a joke.

My early stuff wasnt that good either.

C/ :ee os defomote;u wrpmg/:hehe:

[RockyBatboa]

Well, you've done that very thing to several others.



No, you really don't. You just insult them.



He didn't have any preconceived notions about you. He read your posts to see what kind of person you are. The evidence is pretty obvious.



No, you just drain all the fun out a thread until no one wants to post there any more.

Opinions and wrong or right don't belong in the same sentance, that's why they're called opinions. :cwink:



You shouldn't even "joke" about such things, after all your other actions in other threads that was icing on the cake.



Doubtful.



You really do have some serious delusions of grandeur. The mod was just doing his job. Oh, but wait, you can't EVER be wrong right? Keep arguing with the mod and see where that lands you smart guy.

And now back to Catwoman!!!!

Anyone watch Dollhouse on Friday? What did you think of Eliza?


I'm sorry. What are you babbling on about?

If i wanted your opinion about ME, i would have asked you. AS it was , i was having a discussion with the mod. C-Lee. It did not concern you.



and now back to Catwoman!:word:

[RockyBatboa]

Originally posted by C. Lee



Telling someone not to be rude or to call other people names while debating them is not in my opinion "making it difficult to rspond". If you find it difficult to debate without resorting to these tacticts...that is not my fault.


Now, you're simply being snide. I was not talking about myself , but referring to anyone's behavior, in a rhetorical way. Then, YET again, you lable ME with such behavior, one-sidedly.


Yes, debates can be interesting, knowledgegaining, and fun....until people resort to name calling and belittleling comments.


Which everyone here as resorted to at one time another. I wasnt questioning whether or not you agreeed with my opinion on debates, i was explaining my opinion on why i debate-and it is defintiely not for the purpose of calling people names or belitteling others. The infraction you gave on this thread didnt even have anything to do with a debate. In fact, you and i are now debating. But the original post in this threat you cited me with an infraction for was nothing more than absurd-that is, my original parody/joke, and your infraction of it.




wonder why too....because contrary to your implication that I had something to do with it....I have no control whatsoever over whether someone can use the quote feature or not. If you are referring to the breaking up of one long post into many individual "multi" quotes....that is something that you have to do manually.


I didnt imply anything. I tried to respond to your original post with a quote post 4 times, and it would not go through. Each time, i had to re-sign in after the failed post attempts. Now your making jokes, and IMPLYING that i dont know how to use quote manually. (well, when i'm not drinking, i do just fine, thank you.:yay:)

Yes, I read them....after I made the initial infraction.

If you read them, then you know my arguments with others were hardly one-sided, which is why i said we've all participated in some silly behavior.






Then you agree that you have called people asses multiple times and repeatedly insult people...and find nothing wrong with that kind of behavior. Nice.




I simply dont know where you're comming from with this statement. Never previously did i agree with the insinuation that i've called people asses on numerous occasions, nor that i repeatedly insult people, nor that i find the behavior nice. Dog may have dug up a bone, But it's NOT mine!




Sorry...but in my world, calling someone an ass when they disagree is demeaning.



Mine too. That's why i dont call someone an ass when they disagree with me. Usually, i call someone an ass when they call me a prick. I call them an idiot when they call me stupid.

Senseless-true. Two wrongs dont make a right, but noone's perfect.




Here is your post -

RockyBatboa
I dont support her for Catwoman, but....

Slit your wrist with a spoon.

You realize that would be awesome for me to watch, right?:woot:
-


See, it may sound a certain way. I typed the message a little fast perhaps. My original intent was for it to read this way:

"I dont support her for Catwoman, but....

Slit your wrist with a spoon.....?....

You realize that would be awesome to watch, right?:woot:"

The pause and the question are obviously a quick thought, questioning the validity of the other poster's original statement, and then with my last statement realizing it's all just A JOKE, solidifying my knowledge that it's a joke w/ a sarcastic statement and sarcastic smile.

Now, reading EXACTLY what i wrote, the second statement does seem more like a statement. I meant to write it as a question. I dont know if that makes it any clearer, but my intention was not to encourage anyone's suicide.



It doesn't matter if his original post is legitament or not. You continued it with encouraging him to do it and saying that "would be awesome to watch." This is a site predominately frequented by teenagers. We have about one every couple of months threaten or contemplate suicide. We have made an effort to stop the lighthearted attitude towards this that is put forth by many of the other posters here. As you said in an earlier post...you have seen the horrors that suicide causes on the people close to them...so again I say, I find it hard to believe that you would want to joke about such a situation.



I have to repeat one LAST time (bold letters for stressing a point, not for anger) that i in NO way was encouraging actual suicide. I mistakenly ending the second statement with a period, but intended a question mark. The third statement was mere parody/exaggeration.

If you do not believe me or agree, so be it. But i dont backpeddle. I say what i believe. If i actually had been encouraging suicide, i would admit to it now. The truth is, i WAS NOT encouraging it, and am explaining that to you.


I have shown the post infracted (where you joked about suicide0...so how is infracting you for this a lie?

I never said that you didnt infract me. I said that your claim that i was legitamitely encouraging sucide was a lie. I have stressed that i did not do this many times now.


You called me "corrupt", "pathetic", and a "joke"....because I gave you an infraction. I consider that rude. I haven't resorted to that against you. I have attempted to answer all your questions and points. I believe I am being very civil.

If your going to refer to what i wrote to you in a pm, let's be accurate.

I called your Decision Making corrupt.

I said you Judgement Calling was pathetic.

I said the infraction was a JOKE, b/c i was NOT encouraging genuine suicide.

It's nice that you're willing to be nice and civil, but if you're continuing to misjudge me with every public post you make to me, i can't see how you can expect me to appreciate that.

One-side opionion of me, false accusations...?

Come on, man! Put yourself in my shoes. You wouldnt respect me either, if we're going to be honest, if i was falsely judging you and being one-sided and ****....:whatever:


Perhaps you should reread the infraction sent to you. I accused you of encouraging suicide, calling people names, and cyber bullying. This is not corrupt...that is the basic duties of a moderator.

Of course. When theese offenses ACTUALLY happen, and are COMPLETELY one-sided. This simply isnt the case with me.

I mean, "cyber-bulling"? I must be in the Twilight Zone.....:csad:



I have neither a personal like or dislike for you. Here is the link to the post where I said I believed you have an attitude problem. http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=16430287&postcount=6687 Please show me where I accused you of having a "majority negative beavior"


When you suggest for me to re-read my 300 or so posts, and you said i was constantly insulting others, your judgement was clearly ONE-SIDED, a claim of me having a negative majority behavior for no reason. Since i have been insulted as well, and made no big deal about it, i'm not asking for any back from you.

I'm suggesting that you could be a little less one-sided, and maybe not just read my post , but you know , the posts from others to me.




have no axe to grind. Ask around...if I had somekind of agenda to get rid of you...you would be banned already. I am posting responses in the open forums...because you made statements in the open forums about "personal axes to grind", accusing me of using my mod powers to keep you from quoting posts, accused me of lieing, and accusing me of "making things up" about you. I feel those comments need to be rebutted in open forum, because there are people who might believe such accusations unless given both sides of the story to study.
[/QUOTE]

I've made no accusations. You know that. i know that.

Infraction or not, i stick with what i've said and still disagree with what you've said of me.

I'm not complaining, mind you. I've cherished theese conversations of ours, in all seriousness, and i hope you have a wonderful day.

Peace.

[regwec]

Please just shut up now?

[Ace of Knaves]

This still going on?

It's only a infraction just let it go

[Ace of Knaves]

This still going on?

It's only a infraction just let it go

[Johnny Drama]

Now, you're simply being snide. I was not talking about myself , but referring to anyone's behavior, in a rhetorical way. Then, YET again, you lable ME with such behavior, one-sidedly.





Which everyone here as resorted to at one time another. I wasnt questioning whether or not you agreeed with my opinion on debates, i was explaining my opinion on why i debate-and it is defintiely not for the purpose of calling people names or belitteling others. The infraction you gave on this thread didnt even have anything to do with a debate. In fact, you and i are now debating. But the original post in this threat you cited me with an infraction for was nothing more than absurd-that is, my original parody/joke, and your infraction of it.







I didnt imply anything. I tried to respond to your original post with a quote post 4 times, and it would not go through. Each time, i had to re-sign in after the failed post attempts. Now your making jokes, and IMPLYING that i dont know how to use quote manually. (well, when i'm not drinking, i do just fine, thank you.:yay:)



If you read them, then you know my arguments with others were hardly one-sided, which is why i said we've all participated in some silly behavior.









I simply dont know where you're comming from with this statement. Never previously did i agree with the insinuation that i've called people asses on numerous occasions, nor that i repeatedly insult people, nor that i find the behavior nice. Dog may have dug up a bone, But it's NOT mine!






Mine too. That's why i dont call someone an ass when they disagree with me. Usually, i call someone an ass when they call me a prick. I call them an idiot when they call me stupid.

Senseless-true. Two wrongs dont make a right, but noone's perfect.



-


See, it may sound a certain way. I typed the message a little fast perhaps. My original intent was for it to read this way:

"I dont support her for Catwoman, but....

Slit your wrist with a spoon.....?....

You realize that would be awesome to watch, right?:woot:"

The pause and the question are obviously a quick thought, questioning the validity of the other poster's original statement, and then with my last statement realizing it's all just A JOKE, solidifying my knowledge that it's a joke w/ a sarcastic statement and sarcastic smile.

Now, reading EXACTLY what i wrote, the second statement does seem more like a statement. I meant to write it as a question. I dont know if that makes it any clearer, but my intention was not to encourage anyone's suicide.






I have to repeat one LAST time (bold letters for stressing a point, not for anger) that i in NO way was encouraging actual suicide. I mistakenly ending the second statement with a period, but intended a question mark. The third statement was mere parody/exaggeration.

If you do not believe me or agree, so be it. But i dont backpeddle. I say what i believe. If i actually had been encouraging suicide, i would admit to it now. The truth is, i WAS NOT encouraging it, and am explaining that to you.




I never said that you didnt infract me. I said that your claim that i was legitamitely encouraging sucide was a lie. I have stressed that i did not do this many times now.




If your going to refer to what i wrote to you in a pm, let's be accurate.

I called your Decision Making corrupt.

I said you Judgement Calling was pathetic.

I said the infraction was a JOKE, b/c i was NOT encouraging genuine suicide.

It's nice that you're willing to be nice and civil, but if you're continuing to misjudge me with every public post you make to me, i can't see how you can expect me to appreciate that.

One-side opionion of me, false accusations...?

Come on, man! Put yourself in my shoes. You wouldnt respect me either, if we're going to be honest, if i was falsely judging you and being one-sided and ****....:whatever:




Of course. When theese offenses ACTUALLY happen, and are COMPLETELY one-sided. This simply isnt the case with me.

I mean, "cyber-bulling"? I must be in the Twilight Zone.....:csad:



"


When you suggest for me to re-read my 300 or so posts, and you said i was constantly insulting others, your judgement was clearly ONE-SIDED, a claim of me having a negative majority behavior for no reason. Since i have been insulted as well, and made no big deal about it, i'm not asking for any back from you.

I'm suggesting that you could be a little less one-sided, and maybe not just read my post , but you know , the posts from others to me.









This? THIS!?! you really have nothing better to do with your time than THIS??

[Two-Face]

This still going on?

It's only a infraction just let it go



Yeah I agree.


Now How do you see Batman or meeting Catwoman or Selina?

[Alex Logan]

I'm sorry. What are you babbling on about?

If i wanted your opinion about ME, i would have asked you. AS it was , i was having a discussion with the mod. C-Lee. It did not concern you.

and now back to Catwoman!

Do you realize that YOU are the ONLY person here who doesn't see anything wrong with your behavior?

This? THIS!?! you really have nothing better to do with your time than THIS??

No, he really doesn't and another ban is eminent!

Yeah I agree.


Now How do you see Batman or meeting Catwoman or Selina?

At a charity event?

[jmc]

At a charity event?

Seems a little cliched, perhaps something a little more informal.

[Alex Logan]

Seems a little cliched, perhaps something a little more informal.

I got it... they meet at Sucker Punch Sally's. :woot:

[elgato]

i would like to see a costume party, but it has already been used in BR, how bout if they meet somewhere else, i was thinking on something like the graveyard, him visiting, Rachel's grave, and Selina visitting some one else, maybe Holly Robinson

[[A]]

This? THIS!?! you really have nothing better to do with your time than THIS??it's worse to keep quoting it..

[Two-Face]

i would like to see a costume party, but it has already been used in BR, how bout if they meet somewhere else, i was thinking on something like the graveyard, him visiting, Rachel's grave, and Selina visitting some one else, maybe Holly Robinson


Charity event seems better idea, Bruce visiting his parents grave and meeting Selina even great idea. It seemed Bruce forgot about his parents in TDK.

[WeaponXProject]

You know what actress I have been looking at lately is Michelle Monaghan

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2549061376/nm1157358
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/MichelleMonaganApr06.jpg

I think shes a good actress but my only problem is she ahs never done a role as big as Catwoman before. shes been in blockbusters (m:i:III, Eagle Eye) but she has never had a real action role where she kicks ass


She's always the "Damsel in Distress". I've said it before but she was a better candidate to replace Katie Holmes as Rachel than to play Catwoman. She rocks in Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang but so does the whole cast.

As for when Pfieffer was brought up, she had played the bad girl before and is one of the better actresses in Hollywood back in the day. I don't think Pfieffer's career got enough credit. She was good as sexy, confidant, mysterious character.

[Blackman]

She's always the "Damsel in Distress". I've said it before but she was a better candidate to replace Katie Holmes as Rachel than to play Catwoman. She rocks in Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang but so does the whole cast.

Ya i agree that she has only played the damsel in distress in her "big" movies. But she was good in North Country, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (like you said), Gone Baby Gone.
If she gets some good athletic training I think she could well pull it off

[Ace of Knaves]

I was thinking, what about Winona Ryder?

Yea she is a bit crazy and she hasn't been in a decent film for a while. But I think she has the traits suited to Selina/Catwoman. I do think she is a good actress, better than some of the ones mentioned here. If you look at her previous good roles she can be sexy, manipulative, feisty and a little bit crazy.

[Brian Braddock]

I wouldnt be opposed to Winona; for all the reasons you've listed.

:up:

[Ace of Knaves]

Thanks :D

I just think she has always been a good actress, not given full credit for her abilities because of her affairs outside of acting. But I think she would work, she has that edginess that I'd associate with Selina and she can definitely be sexy.

[Brian Braddock]

She'd definately be convincing as someone who steals stuff.

:D

Seriosuly though, she is a hugely underrated actress.

[Laderlappen]

I thought about Winona like 3 years ago and was one of my fav choices back then. I think she has lost a little of her looks the last few years, and havent done anything orth mentioning in like 10 years. But back in the 90's, I think she was a great actress and one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

[Two-Face]

I was thinking, what about Winona Ryder?

Yea she is a bit crazy and she hasn't been in a decent film for a while. But I think she has the traits suited to Selina/Catwoman. I do think she is a good actress, better than some of the ones mentioned here. If you look at her previous good roles she can be sexy, manipulative, feisty and a little bit crazy.



Good actress, but not ideal for Selina.

[batboy99]

Not ideal, but who cares? I think she could be grea,t and she has experience with stealing :hehe:

On all seriousness though. I definetly wouldnt be against it. Im a huge fan of Winona, Id definetly be on board.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea it just hit me when I was watching Heathers last night. Manipulative, sexy and psychotic.

[batboy99]

Its a very inspired choice and a very underrated one too :up:

[Ace of Knaves]

Thanks :D

[batboy99]

I woulda loved to see her in a Burton Batman movie. Not sure as who though. Maybe Julie Madison?

[hatebox]

I've always had a crush on Winona, but if any actress appeared frail and unable to beat up bad guys it'd be her.

A lot of people on here seem to think that that kind of thing doesn't matter, but I'm not one of them.

[Crook]

Incidentally, here is Winona recently at the Spike Scream Awards...

http://tinyurl.com/c3t763

[batboy99]

Still looks good.

[Two-Face]

Incidentally, here is Winona recently at the Spike Scream Awards...

http://tinyurl.com/c3t763


Gordon dating Sarah Essen? ( she looks looks young for the part I know)

[Ace of Knaves]

I've always had a crush on Winona, but if any actress appeared frail and unable to beat up bad guys it'd be her.

A lot of people on here seem to think that that kind of thing doesn't matter, but I'm not one of them.

Yea but a bit of martial arts training would sort that out.

[Spider-Fan83]

didn't Ryder and Bale actually work together in "little women" way back in the day?


edit:
{looks it up... searches for pic of them together}
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4759/lw1052.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Two-Face]

didn't Ryder and Bale actually work together in "little women" way back in the day

edit:
{looks it up... searches for pic of them together}
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4759/lw1052.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




Wasn't called Little Women?

[Crook]

Yup, Bale met his wife through Winona during the filming of that film.

[Two-Face]

Wasn't called Little Women?

[batboy99]

didn't Ryder and Bale actually work together in "little women" way back in the day?


edit:
{looks it up... searches for pic of them together}
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4759/lw1052.jpg (http://imageshack.us)Hey Spidey, who do you want for Selina?

[Bim]

Yup, Bale met his wife through Winona during the filming of that film.
Indeed :yay:

Love ur avi btw :woot:

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea i think it was Little Women. I think maybe her and Bale could have a good chemistry then? Obviously that's been lacking so far, well IMO it has anyway.

[Brian Braddock]

Unsure of when this picture was taken but I think it's fairly recent:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/winona-ryder-sex-and-death-101.jpg

Winona's still hot.

Btw, is it wrong that I found her sexy in 'A Scanner Darkly', given that she was essentially animated over? :o

[Spider-Fan83]

Hey Spidey, who do you want for Selina?

I don't think I really have solid choice right, now

I was into, Michelle Monaghan, for a while, but, idk, now, kinda leaning toward her for other roles (like Lois Lane)

aside from that, no one really comes to mind

but, I think I could probably get behind this Ryder idea
I have considered her in past, just, haven’t thought of it in a while
(I don't realistically see it happening, though :csad:)

Edit:
Wasn't called Little Women?

wait, are you asking if that’s what it was called or are you saying that it wasn't called Little Women

the "?" at the end is confusing me, on how you meant this
(not trying to call you out on it, just wondering)

unless your just correcting me on not capitalizing it?

[Two-Face]

We got Katie Holmes from Nolan so I wouldn't be shocked

[Brian Braddock]

He must have had the flu that day.

[batboy99]

Yea i think it was Little Women. I think maybe her and Bale could have a good chemistry then? Obviously that's been lacking so far, well IMO it has anyway.Bale doesnt have chemistry with any women on screen lol.

So in this case, I dont tihkn we should worry about chemistry with Bale and just worry about who we could see working in the role.

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, most times, Bale looks like he wants to give 'em a smack or something.

:D

[brinomite]

^^didnt rachel slap him in BB?? haha

[The Major]

We got Katie Holmes from Nolan so I wouldn't be shocked
We also got Maggie Gyllanhaal. I wouldn't be surprised if Holmes was a studio pick instead of Nolan's.

[FlawlessVictory]

Emily Blunt is available for Catwoman!!! :woot:


Iron Man director Jon Favreau said that Emily Blunt will not play Black Widow in Marvel's upcoming sequel, according to movies and music blog The Playlist (http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2009/02/emily-blunt-officially-out-of-iron-man.html). Favreau said Fox appears to be exercising an option that can prevent her from working on the project. As EW reported on Feb. 13 (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/02/iron-man-2-will.html), Blunt's commitment to Twentieth Century Fox and the studio's upcoming Gulliver's Travels movie may prohibit her from costarring in Iron Man 2. Sources tell EW Marvel has been talking to Scarlett Johansson about taking on Black Widow, but Marvel will not confirm. Shooting is set to start on Iron Man 2 this April.

http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/02/jon-favreau-rep.html


Blunt is my #1 choice for the role right now. Lets get on it Nolan!

[anrrd_2]

blunt for ivy, theron/russel for cats

[Two-Face]

We also got Maggie Gyllanhaal. I wouldn't be surprised if Holmes was a studio pick instead of Nolan's.



Nolan did say that Rachel was created Katie Holmes in mind. I read this somewhere in 2005 or 2006.

[RakuMon]

FWIW, I'd love to have Winona in a Batman movie. I've loved her since I was a kid, so it'd be awesome to have her. I also love the meta angle of her playing a burglar. LOL.

That said, I was pretty impressed with Marion Cottilard's English on the Oscars last night. Definitely a step up from when she won last year.

[RakuMon]

Greg Rucka weighs in on Catwoman in Batman 3:

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/02/23/catwoman-a-logical-addition-to-batman-3-says-veteran-dark-knight-writer-greg-rucka/

[elgato]

blunt for ivy, COTILLARD/theron/russel for cats

fixed :cwink:

[anrrd_2]

fixed :cwink:

LMAO haha ok i can handle that:woot:

[WeaponXProject]

I was thinking, what about Winona Ryder?

Yea she is a bit crazy and she hasn't been in a decent film for a while. But I think she has the traits suited to Selina/Catwoman. I do think she is a good actress, better than some of the ones mentioned here. If you look at her previous good roles she can be sexy, manipulative, feisty and a little bit crazy.


I'm behind that, the only issue is she looks so innocent...even when she's stealing clothes from a department store.

[anrrd_2]

you mean the wynona ryder that made love to a puppet in "the ten"???:wow:




















ya i could get on board with that :)

[WeaponXProject]

you mean the wynona ryder that made love to a puppet in "the ten"???:wow:




















ya i could get on board with that :)

Liev rocked in the Ten! The cat scan thing was hilarious!

[anrrd_2]

i was going to post a link to an interview with the puppet where he talks about doing a sex scene with ryder...but i thought it might result in me getting booted

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Ryder isn't a good actress IMHO.

[jmc]

I'm behind that, the only issue is she looks so innocent.

Thems the ones you gotta watch out for. :woot:

[WeaponXProject]

Ryder isn't a good actress IMHO.

I read the first part of your signature and honestly I don't care.

Just kidding, in alot of roles she can be plain and boring (see Alien Resurrection and Mr. Deeds) but she can also be powerful in others and show many dimensions (Little Woman and Girl Interrupted). I guess it depends on what you've seen her in. As for her career after the "thievery" I can see why people hate her.

Good point JMC. :up:

[Lane & Kent]

How about Jordana Brewster as Selina Kyle / Catwoman?
I also think she'd make a great Lois Lane.

[batboy99]

Too young looking for Selina IMO.

And I dont really care for the choice, but I just came across it, Alyssa Milano.Discuss.

[Cunning Stunts]

Too young looking for Selina IMO.

And I dont really care for the choice, but I just came across it, Alyssa Milano.Discuss.

I don't know why you do this, but I've noticed you're one of two who tend not to agree with anyone here, and 9 times out of 10, your stated reasoning is based on how an actor looks alone.

Who cares if she "looks" young? I've got news for you, she's probably hideous when you take her make-up off anyway. It's all about what the creative team would do to these actresses to make them look the parts... Why not a great actress who needs a little fixing up over a mediocre actress who just needs blush?

Which I find the most coincidental, considering you seem to be an advocate for Dushku... Who is :down on all levels (even compared to a lot of the poll's listed actresses), aside from her looks.

[flickchick85]

Who cares if she "looks" young? I've got news for you, she's probably hideous when you take her make-up off anyway. It's all about what the creative team would do to these actresses to make them look the parts... Why not a great actress who needs a little fixing up over a mediocre actress who just needs blush?
Why not a great actress who doesn't need "fixing up" to look the proper age?

[WeaponXProject]

How about Jordana Brewster as Selina Kyle / Catwoman?
I also think she'd make a great Lois Lane.

Too young looking for Selina IMO.

And I dont really care for the choice, but I just came across it, Alyssa Milano.Discuss.



Neither of these choices have talent. Alyssa was good in Fear. Jordana is just freaking hot and that's all.

I like both their looks for the character.

[Cunning Stunts]

Why not a great actress who doesn't need "fixing up" to look the proper age?

I'd be fine with that, I'm just stating how I think it's ironic that he's such an advocate for a terrible actress who looks more like Selina, instead of better actresses who don't necessarily look similar to her, as are a lot of the people on these boards.

It's all about looks, looks, looks to these users. I was presenting a comparison of two extreme specifics, hence my examples.

[Crook]

Looks are easier to filter out great numbers of actors, as opposed to acting. But it should really only apply if said actors *really* don't look like the characters.

[flickchick85]

I'd be fine with that, I'm just stating how I think it's ironic that he's such an advocate for a terrible actress who looks more like Selina, instead of better actresses who don't necessarily look similar to her, as are a lot of the people on these boards.

It's all about looks, looks, looks to these users. I was presenting a comparison of two extreme specifics, hence my examples.
Ah, I see. And agree. In batboy's defense though, I think he's stated a number of times that he doesn't think Dushku would be good for this series, either. He just likes her and could see her playing the role in a TV show or something, if I recall correctly.

But yeah, Brewster and Milano? No talent to be seen anywhere near those two. I never thought Winona Ryder was a talent to write home about either. Imo, she was the weak link in Girl, Interrupted.

[WeaponXProject]

Looks are easier to filter out great numbers of actors, as opposed to acting. But it should really only apply if said actors *really* don't look like the characters.


That's a good point. It probably more natural to point out a look-a-likes than it is to pick someone with some look but the proper talent to handle the task.

[Cunning Stunts]

Ah, I see. And agree. In batboy's defense though, I think he's stated a number of times that he doesn't think Dushku would be good for this series, either. He just likes her and could see her playing the role in a TV show or something, if I recall correctly.

But yeah, Brewster and Milano? No talent to be seen anywhere near those two.

Never seen Brewster, but I don't like Milano. I just can't understand where so many people here get their "factual opinions" from. So many people around here toss the words "acting chops" around here like they know half of what it means, and I'd hazard a guess that they don't.

[Laderlappen]

I've never seen anything by Brewster but that chick got one really incredibly unimpressive resume.

[The Major]

Too young looking for Selina IMO.

And I dont really care for the choice, but I just came across it, Alyssa Milano.Discuss.
:facepalm

[Johnny Drama]

Alyssa Milano is about as bad as it gets, imo.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No has beens or never weres please.

[Johnny Drama]

No has beens or never weres please.


I'll put her in "Never were"

[Crook]

No has beens or never weres please.
Disagree on the first. Mickey Rourke and RDJ were both has-beens, but made a great comeback. It's all about the role.

[batboy99]

Ok good, Im not alone on Milano. I was knida thrown off when I heard it.

[batboy99]

I don't know why you do this, but I've noticed you're one of two who tend not to agree with anyone here, and 9 times out of 10, your stated reasoning is based on how an actor looks alone.

Who cares if she "looks" young? I've got news for you, she's probably hideous when you take her make-up off anyway. It's all about what the creative team would do to these actresses to make them look the parts... Why not a great actress who needs a little fixing up over a mediocre actress who just needs blush?

Which I find the most coincidental, considering you seem to be an advocate for Dushku... Who is :down on all levels (even compared to a lot of the poll's listed actresses), aside from her looks.Well obviously im not going to comment on acting if Im not well educated on their acting. ANd looks are important. Granted, acting is #1, but evne if the actress is really good but looks way too young(like Natalie Portman), I wouldnt want to see them in the role. And Im actually very open on alot of the suggestions.

As for Dushku, say what you want, but Ive seen almost all her work, more than what most people have and I know she can do more than just the tough rebel chick like on Buffy etc. Shes just way too type cast. I never said she was amanzing, cuz well, she isnt, but she isnt terrible.

Also, I dont want her to be in these movies(Ive said that before as well). We'll see if she does good on Dollhouse. I thought she was pretty good so far.

[That-Guy]

I don't know who would work but one place Nolan does need to step it up in the Bat franchise is the female lead. Whether he uses Catwoman, Talia or some other miscellaneous batbabe, he needs to cast a strong actress and write a strong character.

Maggie G. was an improvement over Katie Holmes (talent-wise), but the character, IMO, still felt pointless and the scene where she gets blown up literally makes me laugh. She's delivering her speech, professing her love and all that, and the general feel to me was like "Ah, shut the hell up and die already."

[WeaponXProject]

Maggie G. was an improvement over Katie Holmes (talent-wise), but the character, IMO, still felt pointless and the scene where she gets blown up literally makes me laugh


I thought Maggie was bad. She looked bad and seemed to have not slept or ate in a week like on a drug binge.

Yeah we needed better female casting.

[That-Guy]

I thought Maggie was bad. She looked bad and seemed to have not slept or ate in a week like on a drug binge.

Yeah we needed better female casting.

I just hope they don't "invent" another love interest. If the Rachel Dawes example can teach us anything, it's that creating a completely new character for a movie isn't always a good idea. I think Nolan realized this while making TDK, hence the reason he killed her off.

The Batman universe has plenty of female characters to that could bring a lot to a film... love interests or otherwise. No need to make up a new one. Even if they don't want to use Catwoman, Vicki Vale or Poison Ivy again, we still have:

Talia al Ghul
Vesper Fairchild
Barbara Gordon/Batgirl/Oracle
Leslie Thompkins
Sarah Essen
Amanda Waller
Harley Quinn (though I hope to God I never have to endure this one)
Lady Clayface
Silver St. Cloud
Rachel Caspian

[Ledlunar]

I think he killed Rachel off to give Harvey the extra push to insanity... and introduced her in BB to give Bruce someone besides Alfred to really know him...it gave Nolan more opportunities to show the viewers a extra angle of Bruce... also giving her the assistant D.A position worked well........ in TDK he used her again to bridge Dent in as D.A and centered her in building a bit of a relationship with Bruce and Harvey....

Im sure as soon as he was doing The Joker he wanted to make him somewhat responsible for killing Rachel if he's not doing Robin(s) it lets him still take the life of someone Bruce truly cares for... Joker and The Mob kindof shared killing Rachel... giving Dent some anger to shoot towards to mob on a personal level and leaving Joker as Bruces biggest nemesis... well after just everyday criminals I suppose when you think what Joe Chill did to his parents...

BUT yes I think he more killed her to give more push for other characters motives, not because he thought "oh oh this character I introduced is new it won't work, Kill her!",


cause the general public don't even know she was a new character...


she was a **** load better than Vicki Vale was in 89

[Johnny Drama]

Kat Denning




http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/KatDennings.jpg?t=1235698537

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/pellegrin-denning.jpg?t=1235698664

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/ActressKatDe_Granitz_14518585.jpg?t=1235698701

[Alex Logan]

I think he killed Rachel off to give Harvey the extra push to insanity... and introduced her in BB to give Bruce someone besides Alfred to really know him...it gave Nolan more opportunities to show the viewers a extra angle of Bruce... also giving her the assistant D.A position worked well........ in TDK he used her again to bridge Dent in as D.A and centered her in building a bit of a relationship with Bruce and Harvey....

Im sure as soon as he was doing The Joker he wanted to make him somewhat responsible for killing Rachel if he's not doing Robin(s) it lets him still take the life of someone Bruce truly cares for... Joker and The Mob kindof shared killing Rachel... giving Dent some anger to shoot towards to mob on a personal level and leaving Joker as Bruces biggest nemesis... well after just everyday criminals I suppose when you think what Joe Chill did to his parents...

BUT yes I think he more killed her to give more push for other characters motives, not because he thought "oh oh this character I introduced is new it won't work, Kill her!",


cause the general public don't even know she was a new character...


she was a **** load better than Vicki Vale was in 89

I have to disagree.

[Laderlappen]

Kat Denning


:dry: Be serious!

[Alex Logan]

:dry: Be serious!

Yes, please.

[Johnny Drama]

:dry: Be serious!


She is certainly better than alot of the names being thrown around in here. Alissa Milano? Christina Ricci? :o

[RachelDawes]

I think one reason Rachel was killed off was to clear the way for Catwoman in the next movie.

[Cunning Stunts]

Kat Denning




http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/KatDennings.jpg?t=1235698537

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/pellegrin-denning.jpg?t=1235698664

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/ActressKatDe_Granitz_14518585.jpg?t=1235698701

Please... Why would she even be considered?

[Alex Logan]

I think one reason Rachel was killed off was to clear the way for Catwoman in the next movie.

Let us hope so. :cwink:

[Laderlappen]

She is certainly better than alot of the names being thrown around in here. Alissa Milano? Christina Ricci? :oTrue. But still...

[Laderlappen]

I think one reason Rachel was killed off was to clear the way for Catwoman in the next movie.There cant be 2 female characters in the movie?

[jmc]

Please... Why would she even be considered?

For two overly developed reasons.

[Cunning Stunts]

For two overly developed reasons.

And neither one of them are acting skills.

[anrrd_2]

I have to disagree.
100x ditto

[Two-Face]

Kat Denning name never been mentioned but still you could do better than that.

[WeaponXProject]

I got an actress that is a favorite of mine personally but is starting to look older and I think she could play the part...don't know if she's been mentioned but Marisa Tomei (sp?). I like her for the part but her wrinkles are starting to show.

[Laderlappen]

A little too old(even if she doesnt look it) but otherwise it would have been an interesting choice. If the movie was made during the time she did In The Bedroom...maybe.

[RachelDawes]

There cant be 2 female characters in the movie?

Well, Rachel was supposed to be Bruce's true love since his youth, so it would be weird for him to just ditch her for Catwoman. It's possible of course, but then you'd run the risk of rehashing the love triangle subplot from TDK.

[WeaponXProject]

Yeap, I wish Marisa was younger...

[batboy99]

Kat Denning




http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/KatDennings.jpg?t=1235698537

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/pellegrin-denning.jpg?t=1235698664

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/ActressKatDe_Granitz_14518585.jpg?t=1235698701Isnt she like 20? A little too young, nto sure how she would do in a role like this. Shes better suited for teen comedies.

Plus if she had to be a comic character, she would fir Raven from Teen Titans more.

[batboy99]

She is certainly better than alot of the names being thrown around in here. Alissa Milano? Christina Ricci? :o
Milano I agree with, but Ricci? Ricci is so much better than Kat(and Im not referring to the catwoman suggestion0. Even as Catwoman, Ricci is better.(though I couldnt see it happening)

[WeaponXProject]

Yeah, Ricci is more talented but that's not saying much. Not to mention she is ugly and semi-good looking at the same time...hmmm...:huh:

[Brian Braddock]

Kat Denning?

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aside from wanting an actress who can act to a sufficient standard, shouldnt that acress also actually be good looking?

Denning's got the facial equivalent of a miserable, rainy monday morning.

[WeaponXProject]

Kat Denning?

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aside from wanting an actress who can act to a sufficient standard, shouldnt that acress also actually be good looking?

Denning's got the facial equivalent of a miserable, rainy monday morning.


Kinda fat too...

[Brian Braddock]

Plus, I cant stand Cologen injected, over inflated lips.

Definately one of my pet hates.

[Laderlappen]

Well, Rachel was supposed to be Bruce's true love since his youth, so it would be weird for him to just ditch her for Catwoman. It's possible of course, but then you'd run the risk of rehashing the love triangle subplot from TDK.I dont think so. Rachel DID date Harvey in TDK. It would be the same thing exceot the other way around. I actually think its more plausible than Bruce dating a girl soon after somebody close to him as Rachel was gets murdered.

[batboy99]

I think hers are natural, just saying...

But I think shes cute :(. But not for Catwoman.

[Crook]

Kinda fat too...
I think your screen is distorted. :huh:

Plus, I cant stand Cologen injected, over inflated lips.

Definately one of my pet hates.
Are hers surgically enhanced? I know a few girls with natural lips like that.

I dont think so. Rachel DID date Harvey in TDK. It would be the same thing exceot the other way around. I actually think its more plausible than Bruce dating a girl soon after somebody close to him as Rachel was gets murdered.
Rachel always came off to me as not a "true" love interest for Bruce. They had no real romantic connection (that we had seen) so it was strange to see Bruce have such a fond longing for her. More than ever, I've come the presumption that Bruce was clinging onto the one thing that still tied him to his past. Before his parents' murder. I don't think it was actual love, but it was probably "love" to Bruce. As much as he thinks he knows anyway.

If this was the Nolans' intentions, then that makes the thought of Selina even more likely for a sequel. She's so far removed from everything that Rachel was, that it also thematically paves a road to where Bruce moves away from the mentality of a confused boy who can't let go.

...or maybe this is just my way of explaining how fudged up this whole romantic angle has been in this franchise. :o

[batboy99]

^Ive always found the connection between the two as more of a brother and sister relationship. Or friends with benefits.

[Crook]

Heh. Let's not go that far. Bale's is the only Bruce Wayne of the movie franchise that still has his V-card. :O :funny:

[batboy99]

Haha!

[namtaB]

Heh. Let's not go that far. Bale's is the only Bruce Wayne of the movie franchise that still has his V-card. :O :funny:

You sure? He spent a lot of time up in the mountains with all those league of shadow peeps.....

[Crook]

...ew.

[batboy99]

Well, that ruined the moment.

[namtaB]

You guys never watched Lockdown Raw on MSNBC? One of the prisoners logically explained that when you have all those guys sentenced to years in a confined area with no women, its inevitable that sexual activity will take place anyway. He went on to say that his modus operandi as well as many of the other veteran prisoners is to approach new admittees and tell them they can do it the easy way or the hard way.

I'm not saying Wayne crossed this line and the League wasn't a prison per se. But it seemed like a very secluded area with no women, mimicking prison-like conditions. Its not completely out of the realm of possibility that sexual activity took place there and Wayne might have been involved. Jus sayin.

[Crook]

I think we're all familiar with the circumstance. Personally, I'd rather equate the LOS training camp with that of the Marines or the Army. A camaraderie formed by being "stuck" with each other. No sexual activity necessary, unless you count the ones with their hands. :o

[namtaB]

Its actually on youtube. Search Lockup Raw Booty.

[Crook]

Christ. I thought you were joking and it's actually there. The clip started out funny, then it just went completely freaky as he described his methods.

Now I can't look at Bruce (haha, what a masculine name...) the same way. Damn you. :(

[RachelDawes]

I dont think so. Rachel DID date Harvey in TDK. It would be the same thing exceot the other way around. I actually think its more plausible than Bruce dating a girl soon after somebody close to him as Rachel was gets murdered.

Bruce is on the rebound with Catwoman. :hehe:

Seriously, I'm sure he's still really upset over Rachel getting killed, but that could easily make him fall even harder for Catwoman. He's never met a woman like her before and she holds the key for getting over Rachel.

[namtaB]

Bruce is on the rebound with Catwoman. :hehe:

Seriously, I'm sure he's still really upset over Rachel getting killed, but that could easily make him fall even harder for Catwoman. He's never met a woman like her before and she holds the key for getting over Rachel.

What happened to Rachel wasn't chance. Nolan, Nolan, and Goyer decided to act. Those three. They wanted to prove that a much stronger love interest would be better suited for Bruce.

[Laderlappen]

What happened to Rachel wasn't chance. Nolan, Nolan, and Goyer decided to act. Those three. They wanted to prove that a much stronger love interest would be better suited for Bruce.What has Rachel dying got to do with Bruce being in love with another woman?

[namtaB]

What has Rachel dying got to do with Bruce being in love with another woman?

You'd have to ask Nolan, Nolan, and Goyer about that.

[Brian Braddock]

In the grand scheme of things concering the loves of Bruce's life, Rachel shouldn't really be up there when you consider that she's is such esteemed company as Catwoman, Talia, Silver St Cloud, Vicky Vale etc.

Rachel was created exclusively for Nolans Bat-films. The other women who've featured in Bat's literal life for far longer shouldnt be ignored or treated as '2nd class citizens' in favour of her.

[Alex Logan]

In the grand scheme of things concering the loves of Bruce's life, Rachel shouldn't really be up there when you consider that she's is such esteemed company as Catwoman, Talia, Silver St Cloud, Vicky Vale etc.

Rachel was created exclusively for Nolans Bat-films. The other women who've featured in Bat's literal life for far longer shouldnt be ignored or treated as '2nd class citizens' in favour of her.

Yes, agreed.

[TheVileOne]

I'm in total agreement with Braddock and Logan. I was never a fan of Rachel in the first movie, and I hated Katie Holmes' performance, yuck.

I'd love it if Talia could somehow be worked in there. Or Selina Kyle if its good.

[WeaponXProject]

I think your screen is distorted. :huh:


Are hers surgically enhanced? I know a few girls with natural lips like that.



Ew...and...the big lips part is always good. But she's fat so everything's a little bigger...

[batboy99]

NOT a casting suggestion, but has anyone noticed the resemblance between Lee Meriwether and Juliet Landau?
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/rouges_61.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/Dru.jpg

[WeaponXProject]

That's pretty uncanny...not to mention the Michelle Pfieffer look in the second photo as well.

[regwec]

I would drink 1960s-version Lee Meriwether's bathwater.

There we go.

[WeaponXProject]

I'm definitely starting to lean on Marion Cottilard more. I find it intriguing that she works with Bale in Public Enemies as well. Maybe he talk her into it.

[Two-Face]

I'm definitely starting to lean on Marion Cottilard more. I find it intriguing that she works with Bale in Public Enemies as well. Maybe he talk her into it.


Yeah that's how casting works in Hollywood eh?

[Ace of Knaves]

Plus, I cant stand Cologen injected, over inflated lips.

Definately one of my pet hates.


You don't like blow job lips!?!?! :wow:

I've been thinking about it for a while now after I mentioned her a few weeks back. Winona Ryder is my no 1 choice for Catwoman. All day long. Great actress, sexy, kooky, *****y and I reckon she would have a great chemistry with Bale. Something which has been missing from these films IMO.

[Two-Face]

You don't like blow job lips!?!?! :wow:

I've been thinking about it for a while now after I mentioned her a few weeks back. Winona Ryder is my no 1 choice for Catwoman. All day long. Great actress, sexy, kooky, *****y and I reckon she would have a great chemistry with Bale. Something which has been missing from these films IMO.


You certainly smoked a lot in Holland...:woot::o

[Ace of Knaves]

Ryder isn't a good actress IMHO.

Well you are in a very small minority there. She is better than 90% of the other actresses mentioned in this thread.

How about you suggest someone, instead of just coming in here randomly to ruffle feathers, rattle cages etc.

[Ace of Knaves]

You certainly smoked a lot in Holland...:woot::o

:hehe:

Because I want Ryder for the role?

[Alex Logan]

You don't like blow job lips!?!?! :wow:

I've been thinking about it for a while now after I mentioned her a few weeks back. Winona Ryder is my no 1 choice for Catwoman. All day long. Great actress, sexy, kooky, *****y and I reckon she would have a great chemistry with Bale. Something which has been missing from these films IMO.

There are good DSL'S and then there are bad DSL'S. :cwink:

I'll pass on Ryder.

[Two-Face]

:hehe:

Because I want Ryder for the role?

yes
:o

[Ace of Knaves]

Ahhh man, trust me, Ryder would be perfect for Selina/Catwoman.

She is a great actress, I don't care what anyone says, especially after some of the other names mentioned in here...

Sure she hasn't had a meaty role in years, but that don't mean **** really. She was good in A Scanner Darkly, actually, her and RDJ were the best thing about that film.

She is gorgeous with those big, cat like eyes. She has played manipulative, sneaky *****es before. She has played crazy, disturbed, slightly evil roles before. She is good at romantic roles (twisted, weird, unusual romantic roles ie. Heathers)

She just ticks all the boxes for me.

[Two-Face]

Ahhh man, trust me, Ryder would be perfect for Selina/Catwoman.

She is a great actress, I don't care what anyone says, especially after some of the other names mentioned in here...

Sure she hasn't had a meaty role in years, but that don't mean **** really. She was good in A Scanner Darkly, actually, her and RDJ were the best thing about that film.

She is gorgeous with those big, cat like eyes. She has played manipulative, sneaky *****es before. She has played crazy, disturbed, slightly evil roles before. She is good at romantic roles (twisted, weird, unusual romantic roles ie. Heathers)

She just ticks all the boxes for me.


So Ryder is better choice than let's say Theron, Beckinsale, Jolie and Weisz?

[Majik1387]

The only thing working against Ryder as Catwoman for me would be her voice.

[elgato]

ace, you want ryder for catwoman, and yes, she would be purrfect for Catwoman, but for the one tim burton wrote and we all love, but this time we need the true comic book catwoman. end of discussion

Marion Cotillard...anyone?

[Ace of Knaves]

So Ryder is better choice than let's say Theron, Beckinsale, Jolie and Weisz?

Well they only make up 10% or less of the absolute ****e some people have been mentioning. Eliza Dushku? Kat Denning? Alyssa Milano? Christina Ricci? Do me a favour.

And yea, Ryder is a better actress than Beckinsale IMO.

And I reckon she is better suited to the role than "mumsy" Weisz. Not saying she isn't a good actress, but she just doesn't have that edge IMO. Well, she hasn't shown it in anything before anyway.

IMO Selina/Catwoman should have that dangerously sexy edge to her. She isn't exactly a goodie is she? She should definitely have a unstable aura about her.

ace, you want ryder for catwoman, and yes, she would be purrfect for Catwoman, but for the one tim burton wrote and we all love, but this time we need the true comic book catwoman. end of discussion

Marion Cotillard...anyone?

Why wouldn't Ryder work for a more comic book accurate Catwoman? She is a great actress with a lot of range.

And I've always preferred the slightly mentally unstable, edgy Catwoman anyway.

But yea I do like Cotillard as well.

[batboy99]

I see no problem with Ryder working as a comic accurate Catwoman. Id be lying if I said she didnt look ANYTHING like how Selina is drawn sometimes.
I think Ryder is a great choice. She would be my fourth choice.

Im still for Blanchett though.

[elgato]

her looks are accurate to the actual interpretation of catwoman...i'll do a quick manip to see what she looks like

[batboy99]

her looks are accurate to the actual interpretation of catwoman...i'll do a quick manip to see what she looks like
Then where did this come from...?
but for the one tim burton wrote and we all love, but this time we need the true comic book catwoman

[elgato]

Then where did this come from...?

was talking bout the interpretation ;)


http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo281/Gato-Chico/wynonacatssgato.jpg

[batboy99]

Well they only make up 10% or less of the absolute ****e some people have been mentioning. Eliza Dushku? Kat Denning? Alyssa Milano? Christina Ricci? Do me a favour.
.
Watch Dollhouse. Its looknig to prove Eliza as an actress more. Not great, not good enough for this movies, but its showing she hasmroe range.

And I hope people dont think I thought of Milano. Hell no. I was just simply passing on the idea I saw somewhere else and see what you guys though.

And Ricci is a hell of an actress.

[TheScarecrow]

Ricci has definetly proven she doesn't deserve to be lumped in with those actresses. She's an awesome actress.

[Ace of Knaves]

Watch Dollhouse. Its looknig to prove Eliza as an actress more. Not great, not good enough for this movies, but its showing she hasmroe range.

And I hope people dont think I thought of Milano. Hell no. I was just simply passing on the idea I saw somewhere else and see what you guys though.

And Ricci is a hell of an actress.

Yea I know you wasn't the first person to mention Milano, you aren't that deluded :D


Ricci has definetly proven she doesn't deserve to be lumped in with those actresses. She's an awesome actress.

Yea maybe I was wrong to lump Ricci in with them, she is much better than all of them. But still, I think Ryder is better or at least on the same level as her acting wise.

But Ricci just isn't attractive and sexy enough for Selina/Catwoman IMO.

[WeaponXProject]

The only thing working against Ryder as Catwoman for me would be her voice.


Too sweet and childish of a voice but all else talented. Hell, she even has a history of stealing like Catwoman. :oldrazz:

But I love her...:o and wouldn't mind her for the role.

[anrrd_2]

Too sweet and childish of a voice but all else talented. Hell, she even has a history of stealing like Catwoman. :oldrazz:

But I love her...:o and wouldn't mind her for the role.
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[WeaponXProject]

:woot::woot::woot::hehe:

[anrrd_2]

i'm still all about Charlize Theron and Keri Russel.

[batboy99]

Yea I know you wasn't the first person to mention Milano, you aren't that deluded :D.I didnt evne suggest her, actually I rather hate the idea, I jsut saw a drawing that was referenced with her.

[flickchick85]

You guys see the Public Enemies trailer yet? Now, I'm one of Cotillard's biggest supporters, but I'll be the 1st to admit that her accent in this film clearly isn't 100%. That said, with a little more coaching (she started rehearsals in Chicago for this movie just days after being cast during Oscar season last year - very last minute - so all her dialect coaching was happening during shooting), she should be just fine. If you'll notice, it's very French-ish in that early scene when she 1st meets Dillinger, but it's much improved to being pretty much perfect by her last line ("Yeah, I wanna take that ride with ya") in just the trailer. So really I don't think this hurts her candidacy at all because as I've suggested before, I'd really like to see Catwoman have dual accents as part of her disguise, regardless of who plays her, so she wouldn't have to sustain an American accent throughout the whole movie anyway. Here's the trailer for those who haven't seen it:

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P.S. - Looks fantastic.

[jmc]

^ You beat me too it flickchick. What I heard from her in that trailer sounded more American than French, so that's a good thing to start with. Perfect? By all means no, and to be honest it never will be, just the nature of how French speak means it's never gonna be 100% accurate, but if anything, given her dialect coaching was happening during filming and given this is her first 'American' speaking film, she's only going to get better. I'll have to wait until the movies out to see more, she only had like 3-4 short lines in that trailer.

[Brian Braddock]

A Catwoman with a french accent reminds me slight of Crimson Fox.

Any old school Justice League Europe fans out there who might appreciate the reference?

[Two-Face]

You guys see the Public Enemies trailer yet? Now, I'm one of Cotillard's biggest supporters, but I'll be the 1st to admit that her accent in this film clearly isn't 100%. That said, with a little more coaching (she started rehearsals in Chicago for this movie just days after being cast during Oscar season last year - very last minute - so all her dialect coaching was happening during shooting), she should be just fine. If you'll notice, it's very French-ish in that early scene when she 1st meets Dillinger, but it's much improved to being pretty much perfect by her last line ("Yeah, I wanna take that ride with ya") in just the trailer. So really I don't think this hurts her candidacy at all because as I've suggested before, I'd really like to see Catwoman have dual accents as part of her disguise, regardless of who plays her, so she wouldn't have to sustain an American accent throughout the whole movie anyway. Here's the trailer for those who haven't seen it:

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P.S. - Looks fantastic.



It's like she has a sore throat when she says her lines....

[flickchick85]

^^
I'm not hearing that...

Sorry Brian, I'm hopeless when it comes to obscure comic characters. But in regard to Catwoman having a French accent, I was thinking in the dual accent scenario, it would be Selina who has the French (or some kind of European) accent. She could have developed that accent as part of her cover, to hide her background coming from "The Streets" of Gotham. Then Catwoman would have the American accent. That would also probably be easier for any foreigners like Cotillard playing the role, because Selina would surely have more dialogue than Catwoman, and she could just use her natural accent for that.

ETA: Two-Face, I can kinda hear what you mean if you're talking about that last line, but that has nothing to do with the accent - it's quite an emotional scene (I remember from the script), and she's just a little choked up.

[Alex Logan]

You guys see the Public Enemies trailer yet? Now, I'm one of Cotillard's biggest supporters, but I'll be the 1st to admit that her accent in this film clearly isn't 100%. That said, with a little more coaching (she started rehearsals in Chicago for this movie just days after being cast during Oscar season last year - very last minute - so all her dialect coaching was happening during shooting), she should be just fine. If you'll notice, it's very French-ish in that early scene when she 1st meets Dillinger, but it's much improved to being pretty much perfect by her last line ("Yeah, I wanna take that ride with ya") in just the trailer. So really I don't think this hurts her candidacy at all because as I've suggested before, I'd really like to see Catwoman have dual accents as part of her disguise, regardless of who plays her, so she wouldn't have to sustain an American accent throughout the whole movie anyway. Here's the trailer for those who haven't seen it:

P.S. - Looks fantastic.

Just watched it and I'm not convinced. She's always looks too plan. This role needs someone who's a great actress and who looks stunning.

I also don't like the idea of her having dual accents... sorry.

[RachelDawes]

You guys see the Public Enemies trailer yet? Now, I'm one of Cotillard's biggest supporters, but I'll be the 1st to admit that her accent in this film clearly isn't 100%. That said, with a little more coaching (she started rehearsals in Chicago for this movie just days after being cast during Oscar season last year - very last minute - so all her dialect coaching was happening during shooting), she should be just fine. If you'll notice, it's very French-ish in that early scene when she 1st meets Dillinger, but it's much improved to being pretty much perfect by her last line ("Yeah, I wanna take that ride with ya") in just the trailer. So really I don't think this hurts her candidacy at all because as I've suggested before, I'd really like to see Catwoman have dual accents as part of her disguise, regardless of who plays her, so she wouldn't have to sustain an American accent throughout the whole movie anyway. Here's the trailer for those who haven't seen it:

The order a scene appears in a film isn't necessarily the order it was shot. That scene of her meeting Dillinger could've been the last scene filmed for all we know. I am with you though that a slight French accent wouldn't be a terrible thing for Selina Kyle to have.

[Crook]

Just seen the trailer, and.....eh. To be honest I'm disappointed. I've given her so much praise, but her first two lines, the French clearly peeked through remarkably. The only time she sounded truly American was her last line.

If Selina isn't planned to have a dual accent, then I'm not so sure Marion would be right for an American part. It would diminish the acting a bit if her accent is all over the place.

[flickchick85]

Just watched it and I'm not convinced. She's always looks too plan. This role needs someone who's a great actress and who looks stunning.

I also don't like the idea of her having dual accents... sorry.
No problem Alex, different strokes. But for the record, that was not supposed to convince anyone that she should play Catwoman. That was just about her English. Having read the script, I can tell you that the character she plays in that film is NOTHING like Catwoman. She has had very Catwoman-like traits in several roles prior to this (like A Very Long Engagement, Pretty Things, Love Me if You Dare, among others) that were what made me think she was perfect for this role. Public Enemies is just the first wide-exposure we've seen of her speaking English.

And she's supposed to be somewhat mousy (not ugly, but not glamorous, either) in this movie. When made-up differently, I think she can be quite stunning.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4637/mcbw03f.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7862/mcbw07.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5518/mc1002.jpg

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http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6566/mcdior2pj0.jpg

Just had to throw that last one in 'cuz there's just something Catwoman-y about it to me.


And I'm sorry you can't see the potential awesomeness of a dual-accented Catwoman. :oldrazz: :grin:

But like I said, I understand, different strokes and all that. :yay:

ETA:
The order a scene appears in a film isn't necessarily the order it was shot. That scene of her meeting Dillinger could've been the last scene filmed for all we know. I am with you though that a slight French accent wouldn't be a terrible thing for Selina Kyle to have.
True, they don't generally shoot in order, but they try to keep it as close to the order as possible, for the sake of emotional continuity for the actors. And I think I remember the earliest "spy" pictures from the set of this movie being the tail-end of this scene, so that, coupled with the stronger French-accent, lead me to believe that that part was one of the earliest things she shot.

And Crook, like you said, she sounded pretty American there toward the end, so it would seem she improved over time. It's not a stretch to think she could be MUCH better the next time around, especially with some not-quite-so last-minute preparation.

[jmc]

I think those not convinced yet need to cut her a little slack, hell even Hugh Jackman's Aussieness slipped through on X-men on more than one occasion. I still think she'd be fine, just a bit more practice needed.

[WeaponXProject]

Just seen the trailer, and.....eh. To be honest I'm disappointed. I've given her so much praise, but her first two lines, the French clearly peeked through remarkably. The only time she sounded truly American was her last line.

If Selina isn't planned to have a dual accent, then I'm not so sure Marion would be right for an American part. It would diminish the acting a bit if her accent is all over the place.


I'm not disappointed with her when we only saw a little but I am disappointed with the trailer in general...I was so hyped for this movie and now it just seems...IDK not what I wanted.

Hopefully Marion, with all the time she will have to work on it with Nolan doing Inception before the TDK sequel, she'll be on target.

[WeaponXProject]

I think those not convinced yet need to cut her a little slack, hell even Hugh Jackman's Aussieness slipped through on X-men on more than one occasion. I still think she'd be fine, just a bit more practice needed.

Hell, Heath's was noticeable in Brokeback in some scenes and in a few of his others too. That bothered me little because of his performance overall trumped out a few little slips.


In X1 the most noticeable is right before Logan crashes the trailer with Rogue in the car when he says, "Look kid, I don't need to be taken adviiice..."

[jmc]

^ You didn't like the trailer? I thought it looked really good.

[Vile]

Eva Green dammit!

[Jay#1]

Penelope Cruz!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great actress and very feisty!!! The accent is just a plus!

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/pingouin10/penelope%20cruz/Burntime_Penelope_Cruz01.jpg

[Two-Face]

Penelope Cruz!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great actress and very feisty!!! The accent is just a plus!

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/pingouin10/penelope%20cruz/Burntime_Penelope_Cruz01.jpg



We had enough of Tom Cruise's ex and current girlfriend (s) Kidman, Holmes and new Cruz in this franchise. Please God no.


Plus what's so special of Cruz in Vicky Cristiana Barcelona that she won Best Supporting Actress?

[Laderlappen]

I LOVE Marion's accent in the trailer. I've been thinking a little bit and I think she should keep the accent she has in the trailer. It has so much character and its incredibly sexy. She's one of the most gorgeous women in hollywood.

[Crook]

I think those not convinced yet need to cut her a little slack, hell even Hugh Jackman's Aussieness slipped through on X-men on more than one occasion. I still think she'd be fine, just a bit more practice needed.
I can understand slippage, it happens all the time even with vets. But I just could not hear any American with her first two lines. Obviously I'll wait for more scenes to judge, but I don't know if I'd be comfortable with her trying out a full-fledged American character.


Plus what's so special of Cruz in Vicky Cristiana Barcelona that she won Best Supporting Actress?
She stole the show. Watch the movie and you'll understand. She has great presence and personality.

[flickchick85]

I can understand slippage, it happens all the time even with vets. But I just could not hear any American with her first two lines. Obviously I'll wait for more scenes to judge, but I don't know if I'd be comfortable with her trying out a full-fledged American character.
I actually think I agree with you there, but as I said, I'd love to see Catwoman with dual accents no matter who plays her (mainly just because it helps me with the suspension of disbelief that Bruce doesn't recognize her voice), so for that scenario, I do think Cotillard is the best person for the job.


She stole the show. Watch the movie and you'll understand. She has great presence and personality.
Agreed wholeheartedly. That movie took on a whole new life once Cruz came into the picture (which wasn't until like halfway through). Also, she earned every single one of the awards and nominations she got for Volver, too. She's a wonderful actress. But...I don't really see her as Catwoman, though. She wouldn't be an awful choice (if she could pull off the accent as well), but she just doesn't suit the character in my mind.

[Two-Face]

I have seen it, found the movie boring and actors didn't do anything special

[jmc]

I can understand slippage, it happens all the time even with vets. But I just could not hear any American with her first two lines. Obviously I'll wait for more scenes to judge, but I don't know if I'd be comfortable with her trying out a full-fledged American character.



It was there, it was just a few words still sounded more European, but like you said we'd need to see more scenes with her, it's hard to judge on 3 short lines of dialog in a trailer. Keep the faith, a) It's her first American role, b) she was basically taught on set during filming c) Batman 3 is still 18 months away from filming, more cause for optimism than pessimism, although I don't mind flickchick's dual accented idea too.

[Lucid]

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[jmc]

^ I'd hardly call A Good Year a widely exposed film. Public Enemies is her first real Hollywood movie where her named is actually being billed.

[RachelDawes]

I'm curious to hear Marion's accent now, after supposed months of working with a dialect coach.

[flickchick85]

What about A Good Year? Or do you mean w/o the French accent?
sorry, I should have clarified, jmc got my meaning - no one saw A Good Year, so I didn't really consider it "wide exposure."

I'm curious to hear Marion's accent now, after supposed months of working with a dialect coach.
Me too. But since she's obviously not gonna be using it in real-life, I don't anticipate hearing it anytime soon (as she's not playing an American in Nine...not sure about The Rivals, though.).

[Ledlunar]

I think those not convinced yet need to cut her a little slack, hell even Hugh Jackman's Aussieness slipped through on X-men on more than one occasion. I still think she'd be fine, just a bit more practice needed.

Gary Oldman totally slips when he comes on the roof top when Dent meets Batman, he yells at Dent about Lau and his voice sounds like Scrooge Mcduck for a moment... I noticed it on opening day , my 2nd viewing cause I saw a midnight showing and now I can't help but notice it. I don't know why Nolan didn't call cut, still if people are going to be upset about an accent they should bury there head in the sand, sometime great actors do slip, and should be cut slack.... but yea thats one example of it being done in Nolans Batman films already, let her have one too is she has everything else (honeslty I think the only thing I saw of hers was Big Fish. but she seems like the best choice i have seen on here

[RachelDawes]

Gary Oldman totally slips when he comes on the roof top when Dent meets Batman, he yells at Dent about Lau and his voice sounds like Scrooge Mcduck for a moment... I noticed it on opening day , my 2nd viewing cause I saw a midnight showing and now I can't help but notice it. I don't know why Nolan didn't call cut, still if people are going to be upset about an accent they should bury there head in the sand, sometime great actors do slip, and should be cut slack.... but yea thats one example of it being done in Nolans Batman films already, let her have one too is she has everything else (honeslty I think the only thing I saw of hers was Big Fish. but she seems like the best choice i have seen on here

I need to rewatch that scene. :lmao:

[Alex Logan]

No problem Alex, different strokes. But for the record, that was not supposed to convince anyone that she should play Catwoman. That was just about her English. Having read the script, I can tell you that the character she plays in that film is NOTHING like Catwoman. She has had very Catwoman-like traits in several roles prior to this (like A Very Long Engagement, Pretty Things, Love Me if You Dare, among others) that were what made me think she was perfect for this role. Public Enemies is just the first wide-exposure we've seen of her speaking English.

And she's supposed to be somewhat mousy (not ugly, but not glamorous, either) in this movie. When made-up differently, I think she can be quite stunning.

Just had to throw that last one in 'cuz there's just something Catwoman-y about it to me.


And I'm sorry you can't see the potential awesomeness of a dual-accented Catwoman. :oldrazz: :grin:

But like I said, I understand, different strokes and all that. :yay:

ETA:

True, they don't generally shoot in order, but they try to keep it as close to the order as possible, for the sake of emotional continuity for the actors. And I think I remember the earliest "spy" pictures from the set of this movie being the tail-end of this scene, so that, coupled with the stronger French-accent, lead me to believe that that part was one of the earliest things she shot.

And Crook, like you said, she sounded pretty American there toward the end, so it would seem she improved over time. It's not a stretch to think she could be MUCH better the next time around, especially with some not-quite-so last-minute preparation.

Fair enough. After seeing Watchmen I want Malin Akerman for Selina.

[jmc]

Fair enough. After seeing Watchmen I want Malin Akerman for Selina.

Are you serious? She's ordinary.

[Alex Logan]

Are you serious? She's ordinary.

In what way? Looks or acting? Either way I have to disagree.

[batboy99]

I love Malin. But i dont tihnk she fits Selina. Shes a great match for Laurie.
I dont think the two should clash. Plus, there are so many good casting ideas for Catwoman out there that havent already been part of a comic based movie.

[Alex Logan]

I love Malin. But i dont tihnk she fits Selina. Shes a great match for Laurie. I dont think the two should clash. Plus, there are so many good casting ideas for Catwoman out there that havent already been part of a comic based movie.

Well, she's someone that hasn't been suggest yet. "New ideas" are what should keep this thread moving, not the same old conversation over and over again. :cwink:

[batboy99]

I just dont see it worknig, thats all. I tihnk shes hot and shes a decent actress.

[flickchick85]

I've only seen her in 27 Dresses, so right now she seems more like a Cameron Diaz knock-off than anything else, and needless to say I don't imagine that working for Catwoman. But I'll be seeing Watchmen tomorrow, so maybe (hopefully, for the sake of the character of Laurie Juspeczyk) that perception will change.

[jmc]

In what way? Looks or acting? Either way I have to disagree.

She's just a below par actress, nothing special, flickchick said it best, she's like a Diaz knockoff.

[Cunning Stunts]

Fair enough. After seeing Watchmen I want Malin Akerman for Selina.

... Yeah, that's probably the Fanboy in you jumping out and talking.

No way could she tackle Selina. I don't agree with critics and the bandwagoners here that she was "terrible" as Silk Spectre II, but she still wasn't exactly gold (no pun intended).

[Alex Logan]

She's just a below par actress, nothing special, flickchick said it best, she's like a Diaz knockoff.

Wow, amazing.

Is there anyone other than Marion Cotillard that you don't think is a below par actress?

... Yeah, that's probably the Fanboy in you jumping out and talking.

No way could she tackle Selina. I don't agree with critics and the bandwagoners here that she was "terrible" as Silk Spectre II, but she still wasn't exactly gold (no pun intended).

There is no "Fanboy" in me.

[Cunning Stunts]

With thought-devoid casting suggestions like that there is.

[jmc]

Wow, amazing.

Is there anyone other than Marion Cotillard that you don't think is a below par actress?


There are plenty of actresses I've gone into bat for other than Cotillard, I'm not quite sure what you're implying.

[Laderlappen]

Wow, amazing.

Is there anyone other than Marion Cotillard that you don't think is a below par actress?



Come on! You cant honestly think Malin is in the same league as Marion?!

[Alex Logan]

With thought-devoid casting suggestions like that there is.

Right, because you know eveything about me.

There are plenty of actresses I've gone into bat for other than Cotillard, I'm not quite sure what you're implying.

What I'm implying is that anytime someone new is suggested amost no one here can look beyond thier own choices for the role... kinda sad really.

Come on! You cant honestly think Malin is in the same league as Marion?!

Thank you for proving my point. The only reason you KNOW she's a good actress is because the Academy tells you so. Anyone that knows anything about modern film and acting knows that the Academy is a big joke.

[protoctista]

Why don’t we start thinking out of the box. The following are some actresses whose casting would result in a resounding, worldwide WTF!? and require a radical rethink of the character:




The sexy, aging cougar….
http://scifipedia.scifi.com/images/thumb/f/f6/SharonStone1.jpg/275px-SharonStone1.jpg
Sharon Stone

http://www.makemeheal.com/news/images/michelle-pfeiffer-plastic-surgery.jpg
Michelle Pfeiffer






Instant media controversy/Incredible talent/Tempting the devil….
http://www.hormiga.org/fondosescritorio/wallpapers/Famosos/Michelle-Williams/Michellewilliams4-fotos.jpg




Catwoman: the early years/Psycho kitten….
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1556/ap1245tj7.jpg

[Majik1387]

That last one looks weird.

[batboy99]

No to Williams. No more Dawsons Creek actors. I dont tihkn she is a terrible actress, but there are better choices. And I tihnk her look are a little more ''cute'' than ''beautiful''.
Stone is way too old. Same as Pfeiffer, plus that would just be lazy casting and I dont know who the last chick is.

[protoctista]

"I dont tihkn she is a terrible actress" is an incredibly dismissive response to one of the best actresses in the industry at the moment. If you've only seen her in Dawsons Creek, I doubt you'll appreciate this.

Sharon Stone and Pfeiffer are, yes, clearly too old to play a conventional portrayal of Catwoman.

The last chick is Melanie Laurent - she's good.

[batboy99]

Williams is one of the best? Really? And no, I have seen her in more than Just Dawsons Creek, im just saying we dont need antoher Dawsons actress.

And the last girl looks more like Holly Robinson than Selina Kyle.

[Two-Face]

Michelle Williams as Catwoman oh please no.

[Crook]

Thank you for proving my point. The only reason you KNOW she's a good actress is because the Academy tells you so. Anyone that knows anything about modern film and acting knows that the Academy is a big joke.
No, that is pretty much just entirely false. You didn't even address his question. I'm gonna HAVE to assume you haven't seen Marion's work, because the notion of even comparing Malin to her is just remarkably sad.

While I may not agree with the Academy's decisions of the winners, for the most part the nominees are at least good. I can't recall any Oscar nominee that was bad. Undeserving, maybe, but never bad.

[Ace of Knaves]

A lot of buzz is surrounding Williams' latest performance. Can't remember the name of the film now, I saw it briefly on teletext.

[jmc]

What I'm implying is that anytime someone new is suggested amost no one here can look beyond thier own choices for the role... kinda sad really.


I suggest you go back and read through the 281 pages of this thread then.

[flickchick85]

Wendy & Lucy was Williams' latest role, and yes many critics were crying 'Oscar' over that one. Williams is definitely a very good actress. But again, I can't see anything Catwoman-ish about her.

For the record, I also support Rachel Weisz, Charlize Theron, Michelle Monaghan, Eva Green (though think she's better for Talia), and Emily Blunt (better for Ivy) for this role as well, so it's not a case of "it MUST be Cotillard!" for me. I'd even be ok with Angelina.


Thank you for proving my point. The only reason you KNOW she's a good actress is because the Academy tells you so. Anyone that knows anything about modern film and acting knows that the Academy is a big joke.
Uh, whoa. Yes, the Academy gets things wrong A LOT. But Marion Cotillard is definitely not one of those times. I hold her right up there with Winslet, Blanchett, & Streep as one of the greatest actresses on the planet. I can't think of a single performance that blew me away like her portrayal of Edith Piaf did. And her extremely diverse previous roles just back up the fact that that certainly wasn't a fluke - just an amazing actress who finally got her "role of a lifetime." I'm not gonna hold it against you Alex, b/c I'm guessing you're unfamiliar with her work. ;)

But seriously, saying we like her just because the Academy told us to is bad form and a little insulting...not to mention it sounds pretty uninformed. Ackerman is no where near the same league.

[Two-Face]

I would be OK with Marion as Selina/catwoman, there just one problem it's the accent if she can hide her French then I haven't seen much of her apart A Good Year.

[namtaB]

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Natalie Imbruglia

[Majik1387]

No singers please, k thanks.

[The Major]

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Natalie Imbruglia
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[Alex Logan]

No, that is pretty much just entirely false. You didn't even address his question. I'm gonna HAVE to assume you haven't seen Marion's work, because the notion of even comparing Malin to her is just remarkably sad.

While I may not agree with the Academy's decisions of the winners, for the most part the nominees are at least good. I can't recall any Oscar nominee that was bad. Undeserving, maybe, but never bad.

Yes, you're right. I didn't address his question, but I've been down this road before. In fact I think I've been down it with him. I have a few questions for you though...

Why is it so hard to believe that I can THINK whatever I want? Why does a person question me like I'm crazy if my ideas don't match thier own? Why do I even get such stupid questions when that person doesn't even try to understand or ask WHY I think what I think? Good question huh?

You shouldn't assume sir, it makes you like a silly head.:cwink:

"Atleast good" is not good enough, it should be the BEST!

I suggest you go back and read through the 281 pages of this thread then.

Why? You didin't take the time to ask why I think what I think, you just treated my opinion as if it was ludacris.

Uh, whoa. Yes, the Academy gets things wrong A LOT. But Marion Cotillard is definitely not one of those times. I hold her right up there with Winslet, Blanchett, & Streep as one of the greatest actresses on the planet. I can't think of a single performance that blew me away like her portrayal of Edith Piaf did. And her extremely diverse previous roles just back up the fact that that certainly wasn't a fluke - just an amazing actress who finally got her "role of a lifetime." I'm not gonna hold it against you Alex, b/c I'm guessing you're unfamiliar with her work. ;)

But seriously, saying we like her just because the Academy told us to is bad form and a little insulting...not to mention it sounds pretty uninformed. Ackerman is no where near the same league.

Well, we can agree to disagree. :cwink: