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Two-Face
06-09-2009, 10:58 AM
I never really thought about it but what about Emily Blunt? She would make an excellent Selina IMO. She's a great actress and she looks just like Selina Kyle
Selina
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/carlarosapanda/CW51.jpg
Emily
http://i39.tinypic.com/jszql5.jpg
Cool!
but I don't like short messy hair on Selina.
Hendricks, looks alone would make a great Ivy. They need to get someone with curves like that for Selina...not someone who looks like a super thin coked out european runway model.
cerealkiller182
06-09-2009, 11:39 AM
Huge curves especially Hendricks' doesnt seem to be any help to a cat burglar who is supposed to be maneuvering in shadows and small spaces
Huge curves especially Hendricks' doesnt seem to be any help to a cat burglar who is supposed to be maneuvering in shadows and small spaces
Nice curves like Hendricks wouldn't be a problem...it's not like she's an amazon or something.
cerealkiller182
06-09-2009, 12:01 PM
Nice curves like Hendricks wouldn't be a problem...it's not like she's an amazon or something.
They are nice, but they are still big curves. I dont think Catwoman should be busty. Theres a big difference between Slinky-sexy and crackwhore-chic. Catwoman should by slinky and fit.
jaymes_e06
06-09-2009, 12:06 PM
I'm sorry I just think Emily has it. She is beautiful but also very sultry and I don't find her a "thin coked out european runway model." :o
http://i40.tinypic.com/20t3z1e.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/j757ns.jpg
She also does a good American accent like Hugh Laurie good.
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jaymes my comment about super skinny coked out european model wasn't in regards to Emily, just so you know.
Ace of Knaves
06-09-2009, 12:14 PM
Emily Blunt is very nice. I could picture her doing a good job.
NHawk19
06-09-2009, 12:17 PM
Ashley Greene. I cant post picks from work though . . Help me out Hunter
BobJM
06-09-2009, 01:52 PM
I've once again become a fan of Kate Beckinsale.
Watch Nothing But the Truth. She can act, no matter how many people on this board say otherwise.
Blackman
06-09-2009, 01:57 PM
Blunt is great...I would take her for any female role in a movie lol.
Its a shame that she couldn't be Black Widow
I never really thought about it but what about Emily Blunt? She would make an excellent Selina IMO. She's a great actress and she looks just like Selina Kyle
Selina
Emily
http://i39.tinypic.com/jszql5.jpg
She is another interesting choice. I could see her as Catwoman as well. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif
Cunning Stunts
06-09-2009, 03:04 PM
Huge curves especially Hendricks' doesnt seem to be any help to a cat burglar who is supposed to be maneuvering in shadows and small spaces
Really, are you just grasping for reasons? That's a little too much thought into her shape.
Cunning Stunts
06-09-2009, 03:05 PM
Emily Blunt is very nice. I could picture her doing a good job.
Yeah, I saw her in Sunshine Cleaning and she was great. I'm pretty sure I've brought her up here and got a negative reaction, but nonetheless, I wouldn't mind it at all if she got the role.
Blackman
06-09-2009, 03:07 PM
How good was that movie?
Where did you see it? It looked hilarious from the trailers but it's not showing at any of my local theaters
Cunning Stunts
06-09-2009, 03:09 PM
I live in Maryland, and it was showing a few months ago. I thought it was very good... Very reminiscent of Juno (without the teenage pregnancy angle). I'm probably going to get it on DVD.
regwec
06-09-2009, 03:28 PM
Emily Blunt as Catwoman would just be amazing. Both women- real and ficticious- regularly enter my *ahem* daydreams, so combining the two would be magical.
batboy99
06-09-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm sorry I just think Emily has it. She is beautiful but also very sultry and I don't find her a "thin coked out european runway model." :o
http://i40.tinypic.com/20t3z1e.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/j757ns.jpg
She also does a good American accent like Hugh Laurie good.
VN5hSoC4-cQ
eXACTLY. Im still for her as Ivy(she just IS Ivy to me) but she would be an amazing Selina.
Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 05:29 PM
I never really gave it much thought until now but Emily Blunt would make a good Selina Kyle. She's got the look and the acting chops.
elgato
06-09-2009, 09:58 PM
Ashley Greene. I cant post picks from work though . . Help me out Hunter
Errr...no, she's too young, not a great actress, has a kinda stupid spoiled brat look, and HELL I DON'T WANT ANY ONE FROM TWILIGHT NEAR THE BATMAN FRANCHISE!!!
jaymes_e06
06-09-2009, 10:02 PM
eXACTLY. Im still for her as Ivy(she just IS Ivy to me) but she would be an amazing Selina.
I could see her as Ivy but I think she's more suited for Selina.
batboy99
06-10-2009, 03:15 PM
I love her more as Ivy. To me, shes perfect. She can have that sexy, *****y manipulative look to her. And looks great as a red head. But im just as happy with her as Selina.
flickchick85
06-10-2009, 03:41 PM
I agree she seems best suited for Ivy, but she'd also make a great Selina. And Sunshine Cleaning was great, btw. Not as comedic as Juno, but just as affecting, and what humor there was felt a little more real than Juno's, imo. Blunt and Adams were both terrific.
batboy99
06-11-2009, 11:14 AM
I hated Juno:( But I really wanna watch Sunshine Cleaning.
CaptainClown
06-11-2009, 02:30 PM
I hated Juno too. Juno was such a little smarmy *****
Dark Knight
06-11-2009, 03:01 PM
First and foremost, here are some Hendricks pics:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg185/JMoney140/ChristinaHendricks_untitled.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg185/JMoney140/ChristinaHendricks_02.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg185/JMoney140/ChristinaHendricks_00018.jpg
As for Beckinsale, she'd be great for the role. She's said herself that if a script came a knocking that she likely wouldn't turn it down, and plus, she loves doing action movies, so she'd have no problem learning the moves of Catwoman and the like.
Jesus.....who this chick and what films or TV shows is she in??
She is stacked! :wow:
flickchick85
06-11-2009, 03:53 PM
I hated Juno:( But I really wanna watch Sunshine Cleaning.
Don't worry, I think you'll like it. IMO, it's really nothing like Juno, I was just comparing it to that because someone upthread invited the comparison. Sunshine Cleaning has no hipster dialogue or uber-quirky main character, not to mention that the stories themselves have like nothing in common.
Crook
06-11-2009, 03:54 PM
Jesus.....who this chick and what films or TV shows is she in??
She is stacked! :wow:
Christina Hendricks of 'Mad Men'. Good show:
http://i33.tinypic.com/155iesg.jpg
:o :up:
batboy99
06-11-2009, 05:27 PM
I hated Juno too. Juno was such a little smarmy *****
Theres just something about that whole suburban area,weird,nerdy,block letter, dry humour that really bothers me.
Two-Face
06-11-2009, 05:38 PM
I never seen Juno.
Cunning Stunts
06-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Don't worry, I think you'll like it. IMO, it's really nothing like Juno, I was just comparing it to that because someone upthread invited the comparison. Sunshine Cleaning has no hipster dialogue or uber-quirky main character, not to mention that the stories themselves have like nothing in common.
^True. By "similar" I meant reminiscent in the style it was made. There's no overly-done, fake lingo or bratty teenagers. It's really more of a heartwarming and well-done story.
My two choices for Catwoman/Selina Kyle would be:
Vera Farmiga
Marion Cotillard
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 12:11 PM
I don't think Vera Farmiga is a strong enough actor to really pull it off. I'd thought about her, but she's kind of... Weak, I guess would be a good word for it.
batboy99
06-14-2009, 12:20 PM
Weak? I wouldnt think of Vera as a weak actress.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 12:24 PM
I mean compared to the rest of the cast. I don't think she could help carry a film like this.
batboy99
06-14-2009, 12:25 PM
I'd rate her around the same as Maggie Gyllenhaal.
I dont see the problem with her helping carry a film like this.
Ace of Knaves
06-14-2009, 01:05 PM
But surely the role of Selina/Catwoman requires a stronger actress than Rachel Dawes?
Two-Face
06-14-2009, 01:14 PM
But surely the role of Selina/Catwoman requires a stronger actress than Rachel Dawes?
Sure it does, Legendary character we are talking here, requires talented actress to play this character.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 01:15 PM
Seriously, I wouldn't put Maggie in a role like Catwoman either. That said, I do think Maggie is a significantly better actress than she's made out to be (and quite a bit better than Vera for that matter).
batboy99
06-14-2009, 01:23 PM
I wasnt talking about her role in TDK, i was talknig about her acting in general.
Maggie is a terrific actress, but Dawes wasnt her best role, but this has nothing to do with the role. I wasnt even talknig about the role of Catwoman either. I was just talknig about Vera's acting in general.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 01:28 PM
As was I, but I brought Catwoman into the conversation because Arachnid originally said he'd like Vera for the role.
batboy99
06-14-2009, 01:38 PM
Yeah, I wouldnt want Vera as Catwoman(isnt she a little too old anyways), but i do like her as an actress. But I do prefer Maggie.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 01:41 PM
Na, she's only thirty-five. Not too bad.
I don't think Vera Farmiga is a strong enough actor to really pull it off. I'd thought about her, but she's kind of... Weak, I guess would be a good word for it.
Are you kidding me? Go watch Nothing But the Truth. She's fantastic in that, and can seriously play in the same league as the other actors in the franchise. I'd say she's on the same level as Aaron Eckhart, in terms of acting.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 02:01 PM
No, I'm not kidding you. But I'll try to find that movie. :up:
Crook
06-14-2009, 03:15 PM
I think if anything, Eckhart proved you don't have to be in the big leagues to compete with the best. Acting-wise he was one of my biggest worries coming into TDK, not because he sucked, but I hadn't seen him really jump that high of an acting barrier according to his previous works. But he ended up overshadowing everyone but Heath. And this is amongst a whole slew of good actors.
Some times, it takes the role itself to push the actor beyond their perceived qualities. I would say the same thing happened for Pfeiffer and DeVito.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 03:24 PM
I don't disagree in the slightest. That said, I also think Eckhart is a stronger actor than he's given credit for. I personally loved what he did with Two-Face.
I think if anything, Eckhart proved you don't have to be in the big leagues to compete with the best. Acting-wise he was one of my biggest worries coming into TDK, not because he sucked, but I hadn't seen him really jump that high of an acting barrier according to his previous works. But he ended up overshadowing everyone but Heath. And this is amongst a whole slew of good actors.
Some times, it takes the role itself to push the actor beyond their perceived qualities. I would say the same thing happened for Pfeiffer and DeVito.
Seriously? Did you see Thank You for Smoking?
Ace of Knaves
06-14-2009, 04:28 PM
Seriously, I wouldn't put Maggie in a role like Catwoman either. That said, I do think Maggie is a significantly better actress than she's made out to be (and quite a bit better than Vera for that matter).
Hey I think Maggie is a great actress too. I was talking about Vera. I don't she is at the level of Maggie.
And I meant Selina/Catwoman is a much bigger character than Rachel, which is stating the obvious...obviously :D
Like I said, watch Nothing But the Truth. Vera is a wonderful actress. She's no worse than Maggie.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 04:31 PM
Hey I think Maggie is a great actress too. I was talking about Vera. I don't she is at the level of Maggie.
And I meant Selina/Catwoman is a much bigger character than Rachel, which is stating the obvious...obviously
I know, I was agreeing. :p
Ace of Knaves
06-14-2009, 04:34 PM
S'cool man :up:
Blackman
06-14-2009, 04:40 PM
Ferminga is a good actress, but I too cannot see her as Selina Kyle/Catwoman
Even though I'm a Farmiga advocate, I think that Marion Cotillard would be a better choice. Besides, it's not about who looks the most like Selina Kyle, it's about who can capture the spirit of Selina Kyle the best.
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 04:51 PM
Nobody brought up her looks.
Well, I never said they did. I just wanted to make sure that the people who couldn't see her as Selina was not basing it off her looks alone, because there are people who feel that way (not about Farmiga, but just any character).
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 05:32 PM
Yeah, the users on this board have a real problem with identifying what it really takes to play a character. For some reason, the new formula has become, "If you don't look like [character], you can't act like [character]!"
Yeah, I don't really care if they look like the character (which is contradicting, since the characters change appearances depending on who draws them) just as long as they can act like the character. For the most part, that's the one thing about the characters in the comics that rarely changes; their personality. As long as someone can pull off their personality and make me believe it, I'm good to go.
Crook
06-14-2009, 05:43 PM
Seriously? Did you see Thank You for Smoking?
Of course I saw it. He was great in it. The only thing that relayed to me is he could be very charming on-screen and has great charisma. What worried me, is whether he could pull off the sympathetic side of Harvey, and ultimately gain the empathy of the audience when he "turns". That's something that truly needs great acting, and it was something I hadn't seen from his filmography.
Yeah, I don't really care if they look like the character (which is contradicting, since the characters change appearances depending on who draws them) just as long as they can act like the character. For the most part, that's the one thing about the characters in the comics that rarely changes; their personality. As long as someone can pull off their personality and make me believe it, I'm good to go.
Appearances changes in terms of the finer details, but generally you can tell which character is which no matter the artist. Tim Sale is the only artist I know who radically goes against the crowd, but apart from that, everyone has kept true to the basic artistic guidelines.
Acting is very important of course, but I find looks just as significant.
elgato
06-14-2009, 05:45 PM
Vera Farmiga looks a lot like Maggie Gylenhaal IMO...
How bout Jennifer Conelly? (Sorry, I have to kill time until we get the news of Marion getting the role xD)
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr351/einfach_nur_ich/jennifer_connelly_016.jpg
Cunning Stunts
06-14-2009, 05:50 PM
Vera Farmiga looks a lot like Maggie Gylenhaal IMO...
Yeah, I noticed that a while back too...
I mean, check it out:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc343/KillingJoke9/maggie-gyllenhaal-lingerie-05.jpg
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc343/KillingJoke9/vera-farmiga-up-in-the-air.jpg
Laderlappen
06-14-2009, 05:57 PM
I dont think Farmiga has proven any great talent yet(from what I've seen), but I have a feeling she will become big.
Darlton
06-15-2009, 01:10 AM
How bout Jennifer Conelly? (Sorry, I have to kill time until we get the news of Marion getting the role xD)
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr351/einfach_nur_ich/jennifer_connelly_016.jpg
She is THE most beautiful woman in Hollywood today, if you ask me. But I'm not feeling a very catwomanish vibe in her. Don't get me wrong, I would throw a party if she's chosen. But I guess there are much better actresses suited for that part.
If someone here knows a role from Connelly that has a particular Catwoman air to it, please let me know.
EDIT: There's the issue of her age, too. I know she doesn't look like so, but she's 38.
I don't think age should really matter. Aaron Eckhart was about 38 during the filming of TDK.
Majik1387
06-15-2009, 02:46 AM
I'll stick with Weisz
Farmiga can't act -- she was easily the worst about The Departed. And Connelly.. she's extremely beautiful. But also untalented.
Musicman19
06-15-2009, 03:43 AM
I'm not a fan of Jolie for the role, simply because she's played characters like Selina before[/QUOTE]
What role are you talking about?
Two-Face
06-15-2009, 04:50 AM
What roles are you talking? Has she played a burglar dressed up in a catsuit? :hehe:
Ace of Knaves
06-15-2009, 07:08 AM
Connelly isn't that nice anymore IMO. She looks like she has bulimia or something. But her eyes are mesmerizing.
You can always feed her..
jaymes_e06
06-15-2009, 08:18 AM
^But could she be believable doing action?
Darlton
06-15-2009, 11:00 AM
;17058855']Connelly.. she's extremely beautiful. But also untalented.
She was fabulous in House of Sand and Fog, her best role to date, but I'll agree she usually plays very unambitious roles (maybe not her fault... but again, she's seems to be working only in films with her husband) and I can't see her right now in an action role. However, she's proven to be a very skillful actress and her appearance couldn't be better.
Connelly isn't that nice anymore IMO. She looks like she has bulimia or something.
I'm afraid I'll never understand your strange sense of humor.
;17058855']Farmiga can't act -- she was easily the worst about The Departed. And Connelly.. she's extremely beautiful. But also untalented.
Ya, know, she has more than one film in her filmography. I don't see why people keep judging her from either The Departed or Running Scared. Go watch Nothing But the Truth. You don't see me saying Aaron Eckhart can't act because of The Core, or Black Dahlia.
Ace of Knaves
06-15-2009, 12:51 PM
I'm afraid I'll never understand your strange sense of humor.
Hmmmm [A] didn't say that, I did. And she does look severely under-weight. SEVERELY.
solidsnake86
06-15-2009, 07:05 PM
I'm interested to see how cotillard accent plays out in public enemies since most seem dead set on her.
anrrd_2
06-15-2009, 07:13 PM
i doubt it will slip through any more than bale's or oldmans... even so i would not be bothered by it. her accent makes me melt :)
RachelDawes
06-15-2009, 09:25 PM
i doubt it will slip through any more than bale's or oldmans... even so i would not be bothered by it. her accent makes me melt :)
Just based on the PE trailer, I'd say her accent slippage is more pronounced than Bale's or Oldman's. If she can't get her accent under control, it can be written into the character.
anrrd_2
06-15-2009, 10:06 PM
oldman lost it quite a few times in TDK...especially when yelling at dent
CB Fan
06-15-2009, 11:23 PM
I'm interested to see how cotillard accent plays out in public enemies since most seem dead set on her.
Me too. I wouldn't say most but a lot do seem dead set on her but in my honest opinion she isn't very pretty/beautiful/or hot she just looks...decent.
Lucid
06-16-2009, 03:30 AM
oldman lost it quite a few times in TDK...especially when yelling at dent"...Maroni has people in your office, Dent. They knyew we were coming!" I don't understand why Nolan didn't loop that line.
jaymes_e06
06-16-2009, 03:47 AM
Me too. I wouldn't say most but a lot do seem dead set on her but in my honest opinion she isn't very pretty/beautiful/or hot she just looks...decent.
I agree. There are better choices.
Eddie Nashton
06-16-2009, 04:31 AM
I agree. There are better choices.
Me too. I wouldn't say most but a lot do seem dead set on her but in my honest opinion she isn't very pretty/beautiful/or hot she just looks...decent.
Here I thought I was the only one that thought this:ikyn
Batmania
06-16-2009, 10:24 AM
Me too. I wouldn't say most but a lot do seem dead set on her but in my honest opinion she isn't very pretty/beautiful/or hot she just looks...decent.
Well I think Marion is beautiful. I am girl though. What do I know, right? :grin:
solidsnake86
06-16-2009, 10:32 AM
Here I thought I was the only one that thought this:ikyn
Trust me your not. She's decent at best if they fix her up, she looks pretty bad in the public enemies trailer. I think the accent is a big thing if she can't hide it.
anrrd_2
06-16-2009, 10:40 AM
i would love if she had the accent as selina...then hid the accent as catwoman
CB Fan
06-16-2009, 10:47 AM
Well I think Marion is beautiful. I am girl though. What do I know, right? :grin:
That's why I said in MY honest opinion I'm not stating it as fact I'm stating it as my opinion I have mine and you have yours, it doesn't matter what gender you are.
Laderlappen
06-16-2009, 11:28 AM
Marion is so beautiful that you almost think 'she cant be catwoman. Bale would never get a woman like that'.
TheScarecrow
06-16-2009, 11:45 AM
Honestly, I find Marion to be breathtaking and fascinating. Much in the same way I find Maggie to be quite...alluring.
I know many people don't find Maggie attractive, and I understand why, but I don't understand it with Marion. I really think she's just amazingly beautiful. Perhaps not "hot" in the sense of Megan Fox and the likes, but she's definitely beautiful.
Laderlappen
06-16-2009, 11:56 AM
Nobody had problem with Maggie's looks before TDK. Comicbook movies have made fans shallow and sexist.
CB Fan
06-16-2009, 11:59 AM
Trust me your not. She's decent at best if they fix her up, she looks pretty bad in the public enemies trailer. I think the accent is a big thing if she can't hide it.
I think so too...though I am reserving final judgement for after I see the movie, or more like her first few scenes in it really.
And I didn't even know who Maggie was or that she existed before TDK.
WeaponXProject
06-16-2009, 12:25 PM
Nobody had problem with Maggie's looks before TDK. Comicbook movies have made fans shallow and sexist.
I don't mean to jump into this conversation but I also have a problem with the "exact height, look, and weight" issue. I think all comics were drawn that way, especially Marvel, but its ridiculous to only chose actors or actresses that way. It's practically impossible to find talented actors/actresses that look that way.
Blackman
06-16-2009, 12:35 PM
Nobody had problem with Maggie's looks before TDK. Comicbook movies have made fans shallow and sexist.
:whatever:
The only reason I nvr complained about her before TDK because I nvr saw any of her work before TDK. Shes a good actress but damn.....
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/bulldog.jpg
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/maggie_gyllenhaal.jpg
I cant tell the difference
and also its really stupid to say its sexist to say that a girl is unattractive.
CB Fan
06-16-2009, 12:40 PM
^ I agree. Although comparing her to a dog that ugly is kinda mean LOL.
To WeaponX: I get what you're saying Hugh Jackman and Heath Ledger did a great job proving that you don't have the physical traits of the character in the Comic Book to do a great performance of the character.
Crook
06-16-2009, 01:38 PM
:whatever:
The only reason I nvr complained about her before TDK because I nvr saw any of her work before TDK. Shes a good actress but damn.....
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/bulldog.jpg
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/maggie_gyllenhaal.jpg
I cant tell the difference
C'mon man. Be more conservative.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9775/sadcartoonturtlesometim.jpg
To WeaponX: I get what you're saying Hugh Jackman and Heath Ledger did a great job proving that you don't have the physical traits of the character in the Comic Book to do a great performance of the character.
Those aren't really good examples. At best, you can say that they didn't completely resemble their comic book counterparts. But "in makeup", they certainly looked like their roles, barring a few distinctive traits.
batboy99
06-16-2009, 01:49 PM
Aww lol
Maggie is cute in her own way. She might not be the most attractive, but she isnt hideous.
Two-Face
06-16-2009, 01:57 PM
:whatever:
The only reason I nvr complained about her before TDK because I nvr saw any of her work before TDK. Shes a good actress but damn.....
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/bulldog.jpg
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/maggie_gyllenhaal.jpg
I cant tell the difference
and also its really stupid to say its sexist to say that a girl is unattractive.
If you find her unattractive but someone people do but she doesn't look a dog.:nono:
Blackman
06-16-2009, 02:07 PM
I think shes hideous but Im not saying because shes hideous that she has no place in society or anything like that. I enjoy her work and I;m looking forward to see more of it
Laderlappen
06-16-2009, 02:09 PM
its really stupid to say its sexist to say that a girl is unattractive.Its sexist to say that a woman shouldnt be in a movie because she isnt hot, but with men it doesnt matter.
Ace of Knaves
06-16-2009, 02:17 PM
I think shes hideous but Im not saying because shes hideous that she has no place in society or anything like that. I enjoy her work and I;m looking forward to see more of it
Watch The Secretary or Sherry Baby then I think your opinion will change.
She is far from "hideous".
"Hideous" would be Amy Winehouse. And I don't care about opinions, she ain't no Amy Winehouse.
And anyway, I think she looks pretty in that picture. There is worse shots of her than that if you wanted to prove something.
She isn't ugly, she just isn't stunning. And why does she have to be stunning? A drop dead gorgeous Assistant DA would just seem false and be sorta like what Michael Bay did with that computer hacker bird from Transformers. In a word; Ridiculous.
Crook
06-16-2009, 02:26 PM
Its sexist to say that a woman shouldnt be in a movie because she isnt hot, but with men it doesnt matter.
Most men in films aren't the focal love interest. More than usual, the only female in a movie, IS the co-lead. Hence more placed interest in how she looks.
She isn't ugly, she just isn't stunning. And why does she have to be stunning? A drop dead gorgeous Assistant DA would just seem false and be sorta like what Michael Bay did with that computer hacker bird from Transformers. In a word; Ridiculous.
This is a discriminatory post on beautiful people. I'm reporting you.
batboy99
06-16-2009, 02:27 PM
Well, that isnt her best pic to be fair.
When I look at certain pics, I just think she looks amazing, especially this one
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/shoot03.jpg
And I love this one.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/maggie.jpg
So, shes not your typical superhero babe/hollywood bombshell, who cares? Not all actresses have to be.
Two-Face
06-16-2009, 02:29 PM
I like the pictures :up: Nice one Batboy.
batboy99
06-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Thanks :D
That B&W one is by far my favorite shot of Maggie.
Blackman
06-16-2009, 02:32 PM
Watch The Secretary or Sherry Baby then I think your opinion will change.
She is far from "hideous".
"Hideous" would be Amy Winehouse. And I don't care about opinions, she ain't no Amy Winehouse.
And anyway, I think she looks pretty in that picture. There is worse shots of her than that if you wanted to prove something.
She isn't ugly, she just isn't stunning. And why does she have to be stunning? A drop dead gorgeous Assistant DA would just seem false and be sorta like what Michael Bay did with that computer hacker bird from Transformers. In a word; Ridiculous.
I have seen Secertary thats what convinced me shes a good actress....and I still think shes hideous. Doesnt mean I wont watch her films
Ace of Knaves
06-16-2009, 02:35 PM
If you think Maggie is "hideous", what would you call someone like Amy Winehouse.
She is faaar from "hideous" man, you are over-reacting. She's just not gorgeous. And as I said, why is it necessary for a assistant DA to be drop dead gorgeous?
batboy99
06-16-2009, 02:38 PM
Hideous isnt even Amy Winehouse. Hideous is some inbread cyclops baby, not Maggie. Ok, you might not think shes attractive, thats fine. But to say shes hideous? C'mon, be real, be cival. That just isnt true. She doesnt have to be your cup of tea, but to say shes hideous is just too far.
Blackman
06-16-2009, 02:39 PM
If you think Maggie is "hideous", what would you call someone like Amy Winehouse.
She is faaar from "hideous" man, you are over-reacting. She's just not gorgeous. And as I said, why is it necessary for a assistant DA to be drop dead gorgeous?
1. Its a matter of opinion I think shes hideous. I dont see why that matters so much to you. You might not think shes hideous, I do. Its whatever. And if I still like her work, I really dont see why you care.
2. Winehouse isnt even human as far as Im concerned
Crook
06-16-2009, 02:39 PM
Who said anything about that though? If someone tells you they don't want vanilla, does that mean they want chocolate?
Ace of Knaves
06-16-2009, 02:42 PM
1. Its a matter of opinion I think shes hideous. I dont see why that matters so much to you. You might not think shes hideous, I do. Its whatever. And if I still like her work, I really dont see why you care.
2. Winehouse isnt even human as far as Im concerned
It doesn't matter to me. It just makes you seem like a shallow idiot.
Blackman
06-16-2009, 02:47 PM
Because I find one girl hideous I'm being shallow :facepalm
Whatever makes you feel better. I said that I like her work, I didnt say because she's hideous that she shouldnt work. You're just being overly sensitive for no reason
flickchick85
06-16-2009, 02:51 PM
This last page has made me :lmao: more than I should probably admit. Especially that "Sad Cartoon Turtle" pic. That said, I don't see much sexism going on here. Maggie wasn't the best looking love interest, nor did she have to be - she was the childhood friend character, or girl next door. Bruce's love for her came out of their history together. Selina's different. She needs to catch Bruce's eye from across the room and own a room the second she walks in it. Naturally this requires someone higher in the looks department than Maggie, but it also requires a certain screen presence and confidence. I believe Cotillard is more than beautiful enough to pull this off (of course, Public Enemies isn't the best example of this as she's supposed to have a more mousy look in that playing a "lowly" coat-checker - it's more her spirit that attracts Dillinger), and I know she's got the presence.
If this shot from the trailer is any indication, I think Marion will be far more glammed-up in Nine:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9483/mcnine35.jpg
Blackman
06-16-2009, 02:55 PM
Public Enemies is gonna be good. Did my term paper on it. Hope it turns out great
Ace of Knaves
06-16-2009, 02:56 PM
Because I find one girl hideous :facepalm:
Whatever makes you feel better. I said that I like her work, I didnt say because she's hideous that she shouldnt work. You're just being overly sensitive for no reason
Not really, I honestly don't care either way. Just can't for the life of me understand how you can use the word "hideous" when it comes to her. Hideous isn't a subjective describing word.
Laderlappen
06-16-2009, 02:57 PM
It does make you shallow. Very few people should be called hideous or ugly. Maggie isnt one of them Actually nobody should because its a incredibly offensive thing to call a person.
Most men in films aren't the focal love interest. More than usual, the only female in a movie, IS the co-lead. Hence more placed interest in how she looks. Why should only beautiful people be love interests? Why would it matter if a character is a love interest or not?
Blackman
06-16-2009, 03:00 PM
Whatever. So I say a girl looks bad but I like her work.
Now If I said. "Shes ugly and has no place in the world" then I can understand you calling me shallow. But thinking that by saying someone is ugly is shallow is idiotic. If youre saying that than you might as well call yourself shallow. Because everyone thought to there self that someone is ugly or something.
I enjoy her work I dont mind her. Its not like I care that shes ugly Im just saying that I dont find her attractive but Ill still watch her film. I didnt call her a c*** or b**** so I dont see whhy you're being so overly sensitive about it
Ace of Knaves
06-16-2009, 03:03 PM
Because there is a big difference between hideous and ugly. We are just saying we believe "hideous" was the wrong choice of words and pretty harsh.
If you just said you thought she was ugly or unattractive then no one would have a problem.
Blackman
06-16-2009, 03:04 PM
ok whatever shes the most attractive women in the world and I'm sorry I ever said shes ugly, but I like her work :whatever:
Ace of Knaves
06-16-2009, 03:05 PM
Now who's being sensitive :hehe:
RachelDawes
06-16-2009, 03:11 PM
This is my shallow post for the day:
I think Maggie is beautiful in her own way but she's look a thousand times better if she fixed the lines around her mouth and maybe got a nose job.
Hideous isnt even Amy Winehouse. Hideous is some inbread cyclops baby, not Maggie. Ok, you might not think shes attractive, thats fine. But to say shes hideous? C'mon, be real, be cival. That just isnt true. She doesnt have to be your cup of tea, but to say shes hideous is just too far.
I think Amy Winehouse is one of the few people on earth who can truly be called hideous, poor thing.
Public Enemies is gonna be good. Did my term paper on it. Hope it turns out great
That would be a fun book to do a term paper on.
Crook
06-16-2009, 03:12 PM
Why should only beautiful people be love interests? Why would it matter if a character is a love interest or not?
Why do products of Hollywood, the most vanity-laden existing industry, mostly preserve the idea that main characters and love interests are all above-average looking people?
Is this some sort of trick question? :huh:
Laderlappen
06-16-2009, 03:15 PM
ugly is still a very harsh word. Ugly is the elephant man. Maggie is average at worst.
Maggie often has bad clothes, wear her hair totally wrong, and is often seen without make-up. That makes her look, well not attractive. When she tries to look good:
beautiful? Maybe not. Ugly? hell no
http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/36/20/99/18680627.jpg
Laderlappen
06-16-2009, 03:17 PM
Why do products of Hollywood, the most vanity-laden existing industry, mostly preserve the idea that main characters and love interests are all above-average looking people?
Because people are shallow
Blackman
06-16-2009, 03:21 PM
I think its really stupid to call someone shallow just because they think someone isn't attractive or ugly.
Unless the person says 'because someone is attractive/ugly that they shouldnt be in any movies' then I can see complaining about someone being shallow
But just calling someone ugly/unattractive isnt shallow. Everyone in this thread has found someone unattractive/ugly, but hopefully that doesnt stop someone from being friends or getting to know a person.
And i would rather be called ugly than the n-word. By saying that I just mean there are a lot worse things in the world than being called ugly
batboy99
06-16-2009, 03:39 PM
If she was so ''hideous'', she would not be working in Hollywood.
Laderlappen
06-16-2009, 03:41 PM
There's a huge difference between 'unattractive' and 'ugly' to me. But whatever, lets end this thing.
markstrange
06-17-2009, 03:23 AM
I agree... she isn't that great looking, shes a good actor, but she kind of looks deformed.
Majik1387
06-17-2009, 03:32 AM
Cotillard is looking good in the movie Nine, but I don't think she'd be a good fit for Selina/Catwoman visually.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 03:05 PM
Why should only beautiful people be love interests? Why would it matter if a character is a love interest or not?
It's a marketing thing, so to speak. That's why a great deal of actors are attractive or interesting to look at and those that aren't are done up to do so. The viewers want someone that they like looking at. I mean, even from a male's standpoint, look at the lead, Christian Bale- definitely a good looking dude by many peoples' standards. Even leads like Seth Rogen, who on the street would probably strike you as a portly, funny-looking guy is done up in movies so that people might even think, "You know, he's kinda cute". He definitely has that "foul-mouthed teddy bear" persona/appearance in his softer movies like Knocked Up and Zack and Miri Make a Porno.
I'm most definitely not ruling out that it could happen in real life, but I sincerely doubt it'd be totally believable to the public if we had pretty-boy billionaire Bruce Wayne banging a troll (I'd hardly classify Maggie as a troll, she can look pretty damned nice as well).
Laderlappen
06-17-2009, 03:21 PM
I understand how it is like that. My point is that its sexist to say a woman shouldnt be in a movie if she isnt hot, but with men it doesnt matter. Im using the word 'should'.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 03:25 PM
I completely agree. That said, I think there's some sort of trend that shows that we're more likely to follow a ugly guy than we are an ugly woman. I know and I agree that it's sexist, but women have ultimately become somewhat of "sex symbols" in Hollywood. Again, compare Seth Rogen to Katherine Heigl.
WeaponXProject
06-17-2009, 03:27 PM
Cotillard is looking good in the movie Nine, but I don't think she'd be a good fit for Selina/Catwoman visually.
Now I'm not saying that you only judge on visuals by saying this at all.
I think people could have said the same about Heath. Joker's comic interpretation had a very pointed-sharp nose with extrememly high cheak bones, also had a parted widows peak of a hair cut (kinda a pompadore), slender face, all teeth when he smiled, seemed tall and slender with large eyes.
Heath has a rouner face, rounded small nose, does have high cheak bones, long poodle curls for hair that is thinning, not much teeth when he smiled (probably from the prosthetics on his lips but still) and is shorter to go with thin.
Point is he became the Joker with his performance and most will recognize the character from his portrayal. It's all about the performance.
I know it matters to alot about looks for the character but to me I want to see someone become the character or make it his/her own. And I know were running in circles with this...I and others have discussed it before but her look shouldn't be a concern in my opinion, its good enough.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 04:13 PM
So, Im thinking of doing another Catwoman manip, any suggestions/ideas of how it should look?
Try some far-left field suggestions -- just for kicks :hehe:
batboy99
06-17-2009, 04:26 PM
Lol, i was talknig in terms of pose etc.
As for the choice right now, this is going to be a serious poster, so it will be a serious choice.
There are quite a few actresses I like for the role, but Im at a point where I dont know who I like better/best.
I like Marion Cotillard, I still like Cate Blanchett regardless of what others say, Eliza Dushku(same reasoning as Cate),Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron,Emily Blunt(though shes still Ivy to me),I still love Keri Russell, and Rachel Weisz isnt bad.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 04:57 PM
*cough*DO A GODDAMNED EVA GREEN MANIP!*cough*
Blackman
06-17-2009, 04:59 PM
I agree with Cunning Stunts. That would be cool or a Kate Beckinsale one
jaymes_e06
06-17-2009, 05:01 PM
^I second his statement...or cough. I'm not sure which?
Crook
06-17-2009, 05:01 PM
I understand how it is like that. My point is that its sexist to say a woman shouldnt be in a movie if she isnt hot, but with men it doesnt matter. Im using the word 'should'.
Well you have to look at who's saying it and in what context. In this case, it's men, and "logically" speaking, we really couldn't care less what the guy looks like, because we're not looking for them.
And in cases where appearances matter for the character and not for our attraction, people of both genders DO complain. Look at the worldwide hoopla over Daniel Craig as Bond.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 05:04 PM
I haven't heard any negatives about Craig... If that's what you're getting at.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 05:09 PM
*cough*DO A GODDAMNED EVA GREEN MANIP!*cough*
Im a fan of both Green and Beckinsale. Though Im not sure about Green as Catwoman. I could try one though.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 05:10 PM
I'd love it if you did. Nobody else will do one. :(
batboy99
06-17-2009, 05:12 PM
Theres a part of me thats always had a thing for the choice of Eva as Catwoman. Shes got alot of moments where she looks pretty bleh, but when she looks good, I recon she would look great as Catwoman. Though Im more partial to her as Talia rather than Catwoman.
Blackman
06-17-2009, 05:13 PM
1. Beckinsale
2. Green
3. Monaghan
4. Blunt
jaymes_e06
06-17-2009, 05:14 PM
Green isn't my first choice but I would love to see how she looks in the costume.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 05:15 PM
Theres a part of me thats always had a thing for the choice of Eva as Catwoman. Shes got alot of moments where she looks pretty bleh, but when she looks good, I recon she would look great as Catwoman.
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc343/KillingJoke9/eva_green-2.jpg
I think we can now eliminate any doubt. :cwink:
batboy99
06-17-2009, 05:15 PM
I actually dont mind Beckinsale. I think shes a better actress than she gets credit for. Shes not great, but shes good enough. I do however, think there are better actresses for the part.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 05:16 PM
And as I said, shes just Talia to me.
flickchick85
06-17-2009, 05:28 PM
Yeah, my general stance is, Eva Green=Perfect Talia, Emily Blunt=Perfect Ivy, but both could be a good Catwoman.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 05:30 PM
I agree. The two are kind of interchangeable for me, and I wouldn't mind if either got either role... But, if I had my own choice, I would do exactly as you said.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 05:35 PM
Then who would be your Selina?
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 05:38 PM
My mistake, I read it wrong. I thought it said, Eva Green as Catwoman. My perfect Talia is Rachel Weisz.
Crook
06-17-2009, 05:49 PM
I haven't heard any negatives about Craig... If that's what you're getting at.
You're joking. When Daniel was cast as Bond, it was by far the most talked about news for quite a while. There was a sizeable backlash against him taking over Brosnan. Post-CR he's been received quite well, but prior to the film's release his looks were definitely a main issue.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 05:54 PM
Post-Casino Royale is what I meant. I watched a whole mini-documentary about the backlash against him beforehand, so I'm well aware of that. I thought you meant he is still unappreciated as Bond, which I haven't heard at all.
I had heard too that before his movies, people criticized his blonde hair and blue eyes. Again, since the movies have released, I haven't heard an ounce of criticism. He's my favorite Bond (and one of my favorite actors).
Blackman
06-17-2009, 05:56 PM
I love Craig as Bond...but I still like to think abut how Clive Owen would have done :)
Crook
06-17-2009, 05:59 PM
I had heard too that before his movies, people criticized his blonde hair and blue eyes. Again, since the movies have released, I haven't heard an ounce of criticism. He's my favorite Bond (and one of my favorite actors).
He's my favorite Bond as well too. When I referred to his backlash, in particular I was referencing many people's voices that he was "too ugly & too rough" for their idealized representation of Bond. So that's one (albeit rare) example where men and women did voice their opinion about how attractive one is for a role.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 06:00 PM
Man, I cant decide who I like the best for the role!
**** it, Im just gonna use Eliza. Shes my dream choice. She isnt a realistic choice but oh well.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 06:01 PM
I agree, but I like the more rough portrayal of Bond they have given him since
Vesper's death.
It fits his fighting style he's used in the movies very well, which I like. Instead of being the suave, clean fighter, he's much more of a brawler, and I love it.
Laderlappen
06-17-2009, 06:25 PM
Well you have to look at who's saying it and in what context. In this case, it's men, and "logically" speaking, we really couldn't care less what the guy looks like, because we're not looking for them.
And in cases where appearances matter for the character and not for our attraction, people of both genders DO complain. Look at the worldwide hoopla over Daniel Craig as Bond.Its still sexist because then they are saying that the only thing women are good for is being something to look at and that someone that doesnt look good isnt worth anything.
Daniel Craig isnt the same thing because the complains about his looks was not because they thought he's unattractive. If it was it would still be ok because the character is supposed to be attractive.
You have to atleast agree that its very superficial.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 06:33 PM
So anyone have any certain pose they'd like to see the Catwoman manip in? I got no ideas.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 06:35 PM
Using her whip to swing!
Crook
06-17-2009, 06:37 PM
Its still sexist because then they are saying that the only thing women are good for is being something to look at and that someone that doesnt look good isnt worth anything.
You're choosing to look at it through strict terms. By your definition, the dating-world is sexist. It's not about "I don't like your looks so bug off", moreso "There are others who have your talents with the advantages of looks, so I'll prefer them".
Daniel Craig isnt the same thing because the complains about his looks was not because they thought he's unattractive.
I don't know where the hell you were in 05-06, but Daniel's looks were the only thing being talked about. Too ugly, too craggy, rough features, big ears, etc etc.
If it was it would still be ok because the character is supposed to be attractive.
Which was part of my original point. Do you not think leads in film are supposed to be attractive? The whole film rests on their marketability, which is undoubtedly factored in by attractiveness.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 06:38 PM
Using her whip to swing!
Any reference pics?
Its for a poster, so I want it to look more like a pose rather than a still.
Cunning Stunts
06-17-2009, 06:45 PM
I lied, try this one instead:
http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/parkour-and-free-running1.jpg
I think that could make for an awesome picture.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 06:53 PM
I could definetly try that, if I make a still.
Laderlappen
06-17-2009, 07:07 PM
You're choosing to look at it through strict terms. By your definition, the dating-world is sexist. It's not about "I don't like your looks so bug off", moreso "There are others who have your talents with the advantages of looks, so I'll prefer them". Im talking about the group of people that dislikes a female because she doesnt look good. People who think actresses they dont find attractive shouldnt be in movies. There's nothing sexist of being attracted to someone because of their looks.
I don't know where the hell you were in 05-06, but Daniel's looks were the only thing being talked about. Too ugly, too craggy, rough features, big ears, etc etc. Ok. I've never heard any complain but Ill admit I did follow that movie. Ill take your word for it.
Which was part of my original point. Do you not think leads in film are supposed to be attractive? The whole film rests on their marketability, which is undoubtedly factored in by attractiveness.Well of course they should cast a goodlooking actor or actress if the character is suposed to be goodlooking. I wouldnt give a rat's ass about marketability. I dont think any fan should. To your question if the actors are supposed to be a attractive...if the characters are supposed to be attractive yes, otherwise its not necassary. There are many actresses I like that are ordinary looking.
Eddie Nashton
06-17-2009, 07:49 PM
My mistake, I read it wrong. I thought it said, Eva Green as Catwoman. My perfect Talia is Rachel Weisz.
I'd love to see a manip of Eva as Catwoman. I drew a picture of her as Catwoman but I've never actually done a manip of her.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 07:56 PM
Jeez, Im looking at pics of Megan Fox at the premiere of Transformers where shes in a black dress. God how I WISH she was a better actress.
jaymes_e06
06-17-2009, 07:59 PM
I still think even if she was the best actress her age she still would be to young for the role.
batboy99
06-17-2009, 08:02 PM
Oh yeah that too, but Im not worried about age.
She just looks so good! I dont care what anyone says, I think her looks can work for Selina.
CB Fan
06-17-2009, 09:58 PM
Age aside what about Catherine-Zeta Jones she is crazy beautiful and I bet she could pull off Selina well she definately is talented enough.
Majik1387
06-18-2009, 04:33 AM
If she was the right age, Zeta-Jones would be Talia, not Selina.
CB Fan
06-18-2009, 05:28 AM
She would be wouldn't she?... Ivy could have maybe worked as well
RachelDawes
06-18-2009, 03:40 PM
If she was the right age, Zeta-Jones would be Talia, not Selina.
What's the physical difference between Talia and Selina? In my mind, any actress who can play one can play the other.
Laderlappen
06-18-2009, 03:59 PM
I think Selina requirs a better actress, but imo anybody that can play Selina can play Talia.
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Musicman19
06-19-2009, 06:05 PM
Guys, come on. Seriously, Angelina Jolie is the obvious choice to play Catwoman. The reasons are as follows:
1) She's the most beautiful woman in the WORLD!
2) She's a great actress
3) She's never been in a comic book movie before
So methinks we should give her a shot.
Blackman
06-19-2009, 06:08 PM
Guys, come on. Seriously, Angelina Jolie is the obvious choice to play Catwoman. The reasons are as follows:
1) She's the most beautiful woman in the WORLD!
2) She's a great actress
3) She's never been in a comic book movie before
So methinks we should give her a shot.
1. She was in Wanted
2. I just think Nolan should go for a little less obvious choice. Someone who doesnt have alot of star power
CB Fan
06-19-2009, 06:21 PM
Guys, come on. Seriously, Angelina Jolie is the obvious choice to play Catwoman. The reasons are as follows:
1) She's the most beautiful woman in the WORLD!
2) She's a great actress
3) She's never been in a comic book movie before
So methinks we should give her a shot.
1. She's definately beautiful, but I wouldnt say the most beautiful in the world.
2. As has been proven
3. Do your research Wanted was a comic book movie and the character Jolie plays in both Wanted and it's soon to be made sequel is based off of Catwoman.
So me thinks she should stay with Wanted and leave the Batman movies alone there are other actresses who can play the part, though if she were to get the role I wouldn't be pissed.
Laderlappen
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Guys, come on. Seriously, Angelina Jolie is the obvious choice to play Catwoman. The reasons are as follows:
1) She's the most beautiful woman in the WORLD!
2) She's a great actress
3) She's never been in a comic book movie before
So methinks we should give her a shot.1. Beauty isnt everything. No it isnt!
2. There are alot of better actresses
3. Neither has about 3 billion other women in the world. But like previous posters said...Wanted.
Evolet
06-20-2009, 09:15 AM
My personal favourite would have to be Rachel Weisz. I could not see anyone else but her.
I'm interesting in how they would design her costume. Will they go for a more simplistic design or something more armored and a more gadget filled suit? Goggles or none?
Personal, I would what something like this:http://josephcaesarsd.deviantart.com/art/SELINA-KYLE-CATWOMAN-87565564
CB Fan
06-20-2009, 10:31 AM
^ I hate when people say they can't see anyone but their favorite in a role...
anrrd_2
06-20-2009, 11:04 AM
^ i agree...try to be alittle open minded people. rarely is a role/character created with only 1 person in mind.
how about emilie de ravin? dont know much about her except shes like 27ish and very atttractive...anyone know anything about her acting?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0211087/
Evolet
06-20-2009, 01:15 PM
^ i agree...try to be alittle open minded people. rarely is a role/character created with only 1 person in mind.
how about emilie de ravin? dont know much about her except shes like 27ish and very atttractive...anyone know anything about her acting?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0211087/
Mmm, she was in "The Hills Have Eyes"...but I can't remember ANYTHING from that movie so I can't say how her acting is. She's in "Public Enemies" as well, so I'll just watch that and see for myself.
BatFan88
06-20-2009, 01:32 PM
It would be really cool if CatWoman is going to be in the new batman movie.
And they will do that i think because rachel is dead.Batman and Catwoman will work together maybe that would be intresting.
Two-Face
06-20-2009, 01:38 PM
Guys, come on. Seriously, Angelina Jolie is the obvious choice to play Catwoman. The reasons are as follows:
1) She's the most beautiful woman in the WORLD!
2) She's a great actress
3) She's never been in a comic book movie before
So methinks we should give her a shot.
I'm with you on this , Jolie's agent should be begging for that role.
flickchick85
06-20-2009, 01:56 PM
Mmm, she was in "The Hills Have Eyes"...but I can't remember ANYTHING from that movie so I can't say how her acting is. She's in "Public Enemies" as well, so I'll just watch that and see for myself.
Her role in PE is very small, so that won't be much of a gauge, either. Being a fan of Lost, have to say, I think she was (is?) one of the weakest actors on that show. I definitely wouldn't call her Catwoman material.
Crook
06-20-2009, 02:00 PM
Myyy baaayy-behhh.... :funny:
Yeah, let's not have her as Selina. :down
CB Fan
06-20-2009, 08:02 PM
I don't think anyone has put Neve Campbell out there, this would be different for her but who knows, what do you all think could she pull it off?
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/fionaapplerocks/pretty%20people2/neve_campbell_bw_131.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/moe_meezy/Catwoman.jpg
jaymes_e06
06-20-2009, 08:04 PM
I could totally see it.
Majik1387
06-20-2009, 08:13 PM
I suggested her a long, LONG time ago. No one cared for the suggestion.
Laderlappen
06-20-2009, 08:28 PM
I think she's a really really awful actress. Not really all that lookwise either.
Majik1387
06-20-2009, 08:34 PM
Speaking of looks, that's a really bad render of Catwoman.
CB Fan
06-20-2009, 09:20 PM
^ yeah Im not too much of a fan of it myself, just used it for the similar pose. It's from Mortal Kombat vs. DC.
Musicman19
06-20-2009, 09:54 PM
I heard someone saying Cher was playing Catwoman once, but I assure each and every one of you on this forum that if that happens I will personally track Chris Nolan down & go Leon Trotsky on his ass.
Michellemabelle
06-20-2009, 10:03 PM
I'd say Shawnee Smith, just because I think she's very cat-like. I know many see her as Harley, but I really don't see it. I prefer Brittany Murphy for her.
Majik1387
06-20-2009, 10:04 PM
No one see's Shawnee as Catwoman or Harley. We've been over this a while ago, best not to bring her up again.:o
Cunning Stunts
06-20-2009, 10:05 PM
I'd say Shawnee Smith, just because I think she's very cat-like. I know many see her as Harley, but I really don't see it. I prefer Brittany Murphy for her.
Please stop. Now.
Michellemabelle
06-20-2009, 10:05 PM
I can bring up whoever I like, thanks, and I don't care who likes my decision.
Eddie Nashton
06-20-2009, 10:10 PM
I'd say Shawnee Smith, just because I think she's very cat-like. I know many see her as Harley, but I really don't see it. I prefer Brittany Murphy for her.
Please stop. Now.
http://www.freewebs.com/devin_futurama/1%20scruffy.jpg
Seconded
Majik1387
06-20-2009, 10:17 PM
I can bring up whoever I like, thanks, and I don't care who likes my decision.
You obviously care somewhat, otherwise you wouldn't have brought her up again.
Michellemabelle
06-20-2009, 10:18 PM
No, not really. I'm just throwing that out there and my reasons why. I don't care what someone on the internet thinks of me or my casting ideas.
Jack Bauer
06-20-2009, 11:00 PM
Hear hear Michellemabelle!
I'm mean come on, I could say Rebecca Romijn or Miss Alba or Biel as Catwoman, and I would get heat for it.
Point is that it's our opinion to whom we want to see as Selina Kyle, not the majority of who's the top woman to play her.
jaymes_e06
06-21-2009, 01:01 AM
Yep we all should be free to have as elitist thoughts as we want as long as we know that we'll probably get judged for them.
Johnny Drama
06-21-2009, 01:05 AM
No, not really. I'm just throwing that out there and my reasons why. I don't care what someone on the internet thinks of me or my casting ideas.
If you don't care what people on the internet think of your ideas, then why are you sharing your ideas with...people on the internet? :huh:
Cunning Stunts
06-21-2009, 01:07 AM
She's "just throwing them out there".
********. :o
Majik1387
06-21-2009, 01:09 AM
If you don't care what people on the internet think of your ideas, then why are you sharing your ideas with...people on the internet? :huh:
This.:up:
Two-Face
06-21-2009, 05:49 AM
I don't think anyone has put Neve Campbell out there, this would be different for her but who knows, what do you all think could she pull it off?
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/fionaapplerocks/pretty%20people2/neve_campbell_bw_131.jpg
She's hot all but I don't think she can pull it off, she's just a Tv actress.
Laderlappen
06-21-2009, 06:15 AM
No, not really. I'm just throwing that out there and my reasons why. I don't care what someone on the internet thinks of me or my casting ideas."because she's like a cat"
regwec
06-21-2009, 06:54 AM
Neve Campbell is pretty but actually a bit...podgy.
Alex Logan
06-21-2009, 12:45 PM
Guys, come on. Seriously, Angelina Jolie is the obvious choice to play Catwoman. The reasons are as follows:
1) She's the most beautiful woman in the WORLD!
2) She's a great actress
3) She's never been in a comic book movie before
So methinks we should give her a shot.
1) No, she's really not.
2) Yes, but there are other great actresses that could do just as good.
3) Yes, she has. Wanted.
Let's not give her a shot.
Johnny Drama
06-21-2009, 01:04 PM
If there is one thing I have learned while on these boards it's this:
People who continue to support Angelina Jolie have absolutley ZERO imagination...
Two-Face
06-21-2009, 01:08 PM
If there is one thing I have learned while on these boards it's this:
People who continue to support Angelina Jolie have absolutley ZERO imagination...
Count me in then.:whatever:
But I'm also open minded about the casting the role.
regwec
06-21-2009, 01:17 PM
Angelina Jolie as Catwoman is a bit like Johnny Depp as The Joker. In both cases, the casting is so obvious that it is difficult to champion it yourself; but in both cases, there is little doubt that it would be highly successful.
My objections to Angelina are purely based on the fact that I find her to be a rather tedious and pretensious individual, who clearly believes much of the hype and hot air that surrounds her.
jaymes_e06
06-21-2009, 01:55 PM
I thought the Riddler was the duh casting for Johnny? :huh:
Cunning Stunts
06-21-2009, 02:01 PM
Angelina Jolie as Catwoman is a bit like Johnny Depp as The Joker. In both cases, the casting is so obvious that it is difficult to champion it yourself; but in both cases, there is little doubt that it would be highly successful.
My objections to Angelina are purely based on the fact that I find her to be a rather tedious and pretensious individual, who clearly believes much of the hype and hot air that surrounds her.
Most definitely. As I've stated before, I got the idea from her in Wanted as we probably would get in Batman 3 that it's almost like she's permitting us to watch her as one of our "beloved comic book characters". Kind of like how Olivia Munn feels like she "permits" the geeks to watch her on G4.
However, I believe Johnny Depp to be one of the strongest actors- if not the strongest actor- in Hollywood today. I feel like he gets slammed to much because he's in a lot of films, kind of like a great song that gets overplayed. However, with Depp, we don't get the same character.
Long story short, Johnny Depp is immensely popular because of his insane abilities, Angelina is more so because of her beauty and media spotlight.
regwec
06-21-2009, 02:01 PM
Only if you think The Joker can't or shouldn't be recast. I don't subscribe to that view.
The Riddler is one of those characters that could be played by any number of actors. His traits are fairly generic.
Cunning Stunts
06-21-2009, 04:04 PM
It doesn't have to be a smart one to be true.
Cunning Stunts
06-21-2009, 05:12 PM
I try. Must I say, "IMO," before every post just to make sure I don't step on your toes?
Back on subject...
Eva Green for Catwoman. :up:
flickchick85
06-22-2009, 02:35 PM
Ok, moving on...it looks like those who were hoping to hear Marion Cotillard speak with an "American" accent in Public Enemies will be disappointed. This is from an article in The Telegraph:
In preparation for the role, Cotillard talked to Wilma Mankiller, the Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation from 1985 to 1995, as well as Michael Chapman, a member of the Menominee Indian Tribe of Wisconsin, and spent time in Las Vegas and Chicago, talking to girls working in nightclubs and bars. Cotillard also trained herself to speak in a French-Canadian-Wisconsin accent without a trace of her native tongue.
'It was the hardest thing, really, I’ve ever had to do. Even being old and depressed like Edith Piaf was much easier. The hardest thing was that I deeply knew that it wouldn’t be perfect and it’s – agh! It was something unbearable.’ For four months she worked with a dialect coach every day, and during the three-month shoot, in true method style, spoke only in English, even to her family and friends.
So that means she only started working on it, along with all that other preparation, a month before shooting (technically less, since she left the day after the Oscars - which were Feb 24th - to begin prep, and she started shooting mid-March), which pretty much confirms what I said earlier about the weaker accent in the first scenes they shot yet would improve over the course of filming. BUT the accent her dialect coach was working with her on wasn't even a generic "American" one anyway. I still maintain that given a little more prep time, she's a dedicated enough actor that she could get an American accent down for this role, especially if she only needed it for Catwoman's (and not Selina's) lines.
Here's the full article. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/starsandstories/5557457/Marion-Cotillard-interview-Public-Enemies.html)
Cunning Stunts
06-22-2009, 03:35 PM
I'd believe it, having watched her. That said, I didn't know her character wasn't supposed to have an American accent when I saw the trailers, and was a tad unimpressed. I wouldn't mind her for the role at all.
RachelDawes
06-22-2009, 03:39 PM
I still don't know why Billie Frechette would have a French accent. Her dad or someone else in her family tree was French. She wasn't.
regwec
06-22-2009, 03:51 PM
It sounds like a feeble excuse to me. Jean Claude Van Damme used to use the same ploy in his masterpieces.
flickchick85
06-22-2009, 03:57 PM
I still don't know why Billie Frechette would have a French accent. Her dad or someone else in her family tree was French. She wasn't.
She grew up on a Menominee Indian reservation in Wisconsin, which had a heavy French ancestry (the French were pretty much the only settlers they encountered, traded with, & allied themselves with), so it was largely a half-Menominee/half-French community. I'd imagine it was much like many parts of French Canada, in that French was just a dominant language spoken there. Even the Menominee language had more in common with the natives of Quebec than anything resembling English. At that time (and in some places still), Indian reservations were very isolated from the outside world and set in their older ways. I don't think it's a feeble excuse.
Alex Logan
06-22-2009, 09:30 PM
Eva Green for Catwoman. :up:
Ummm no, Kate Beckinsale. :up:
Cunning Stunts
06-22-2009, 09:37 PM
Or you could choose a good actress.
Alex Logan
06-22-2009, 09:39 PM
Or you could choose a good actress.
That's a matter of opinion. I think she's fine. And you could choose an actress that fits the character.
Cunning Stunts
06-22-2009, 09:40 PM
Just as you said, it's a matter of opinion, much like my previous statement was. In my eyes, there's no better fit than Eva.
Majik1387
06-22-2009, 09:55 PM
Both are wrong for the role anyway
Johnny Drama
06-22-2009, 10:02 PM
Both are wrong for the role anyway
By both you mean Angelina and who?
Johnny Drama
06-22-2009, 10:03 PM
Nevermind, Beckinsale. Blah, brain-fart...
Cunning Stunts
06-22-2009, 10:06 PM
By both you mean Angelina and who?
I believe he was talking about Beckinsale and Green.
RachelDawes
06-22-2009, 11:41 PM
She grew up on a Menominee Indian reservation in Wisconsin, which had a heavy French ancestry (the French were pretty much the only settlers they encountered, traded with, & allied themselves with), so it was largely a half-Menominee/half-French community. I'd imagine it was much like many parts of French Canada, in that French was just a dominant language spoken there. Even the Menominee language had more in common with the natives of Quebec than anything resembling English. At that time (and in some places still), Indian reservations were very isolated from the outside world and set in their older ways. I don't think it's a feeble excuse.
Did the first draft of the script describe Billie as having a French accent? If not, it might've been tacked on for Marion's sake.
Cunning Stunts
06-22-2009, 11:52 PM
Well this is based on a true story... So a little research on the actual person might be a bit more telling. I've been too lazy to do that myself, honestly.
flickchick85
06-23-2009, 12:08 AM
Did the first draft of the script describe Billie as having a French accent? If not, it might've been tacked on for Marion's sake.
No, the script didn't mention an accent. But it didn't say otherwise, and John knows within two lines that she's French (I'm assuming because of her last name). And considering her background (what I wrote above is Billie Frechette's real background, for the record), I wouldn't be surprised if Mann wanted whoever he hired to have some kind of accent. Because in the script, all the locals seem to kind of instantly know that she's from the Menominee reservation even thought they're strangers, and they look down on her. And that's part of her connection with Dillinger - he's urging her not to be ashamed of her heritage (because at first, she lies to him about it, and he knows it). So who knows. I'm guessing Mann was looking for anyone with some French and/or Native American blood, and after Marion was up for consideration, was just like, "Well, the accent makes sense for the character anyway, so let's just work on it to sound less 'straight from France.'"
But that background wasn't tacked on to accomodate Marion's accent - that is Billie Frechette's background. Now what Billie Frechette's actual accent sounded like? Your guess is as a good as mine on that one. But I'm guessing she probably didn't sound quite as French. ;)
Looking forward to that Public Enemies, after watching those new clips I'm convinced Marion's accent wouldn't be an issue.
BatFan88
06-24-2009, 01:20 PM
Charlize Theron ofcourse.
WeaponXProject
06-24-2009, 01:50 PM
Looking forward to that Public Enemies, after watching those new clips I'm convinced Marion's accent wouldn't be an issue.
Me too, I think I can see a wild side in her to go along with that. I want to see her lose her cool in a scene of Public Enemies!
RachelDawes
06-24-2009, 03:34 PM
No, the script didn't mention an accent. But it didn't say otherwise, and John knows within two lines that she's French (I'm assuming because of her last name). And considering her background (what I wrote above is Billie Frechette's real background, for the record), I wouldn't be surprised if Mann wanted whoever he hired to have some kind of accent. Because in the script, all the locals seem to kind of instantly know that she's from the Menominee reservation even thought they're strangers, and they look down on her. And that's part of her connection with Dillinger - he's urging her not to be ashamed of her heritage (because at first, she lies to him about it, and he knows it). So who knows. I'm guessing Mann was looking for anyone with some French and/or Native American blood, and after Marion was up for consideration, was just like, "Well, the accent makes sense for the character anyway, so let's just work on it to sound less 'straight from France.'"
But that background wasn't tacked on to accomodate Marion's accent - that is Billie Frechette's background. Now what Billie Frechette's actual accent sounded like? Your guess is as a good as mine on that one. But I'm guessing she probably didn't sound quite as French. ;)
The best way to show that on screen would've been to get a non-white actress, but I'm sure Marion will be fine as Billie. I hope she soon plays a role in which she has to speak with a generic American accent so we know she can pull off Catwoman. Selina Kyle can sound like a French expatriate but Catwoman should sound like a native Gothamite.
Avengers-Report
06-24-2009, 03:55 PM
Not a fan of Catwoman. Why bring in a character like them when the series is already amazing.
Laderlappen
06-24-2009, 04:56 PM
Not a fan of Catwoman. Why bring in a character like them when the series is already amazing.Because WE are fans of the character.
anrrd_2
06-24-2009, 09:22 PM
Because WE are fans of the character.
:applaud:up: amen!
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