The New Catwoman Casting Thread

[cerealkiller182]

In general, I dont like Mitra, but I do like Morrison. She may be able to be Catwoman.

[Mr. Earle]

hey Bunk, no offense, but why does your superman icon have that weird looking "S" on his chest? The original looks so much better.

Marion Cotillard for CatwomanDespite proposing other actresses, i think Marion Cotillard would be the best choice.

[Crook]

I proposed Rhona Mitra a loooooong time ago, and got slammed for it. Everyone said she was too "manly".
I do remember someone else mentioning her, but I said a lot more than one quip. :o

[Mr. Earle]

I proposed Rhona Mitra a loooooong time ago, and got slammed for it. Everyone said she was too "manly".
She certainly has an assertive kinda manly voice and she does look manly too from certain angles... But can she act or else none of this matters, because in the end, maybe Nolan might want a manly, or a sweet, or an insane catwoman.

Also, DAYUUUUUUM:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7664/jennifermorrisonhousemd.jpg

If not Catwoman, then she could definitely be good as Rachel. Better actress than Katie, better looking than Maggie.

[Cunning Stunts]

Yeah, I wasn't the first to propose her, nor the last. And each time, if I remember correctly, the proposer was met with the same criticism... And more.

[Majik1387]

Yeah, I wasn't the first to propose her, nor the last. And each time, if I remember correctly, the proposer was met with the same criticism... And more.
Yeah, I mentioned her once upon a time, even made a manip of her as Catwoman.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/Art/3732.jpg
Though now, I think she'd be a great Talia

[Mr. Earle]

Now that i see that manip, Mitra looks a lot like a dominatrix. She has that promiscuous and predatorial face doesnt she?

So what about Morrison? More thoughts please!

[cerealkiller182]

Michelle Monaghan for Catwoman
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8346/michellecatyz8.jpg

Looks
She's got a slinky sexy body type, one that makes sense for a cat burglar that relies on moving through small places and in shadows. She has a very alluring smile and eyes, more flirtatious than uber-sexy (see Performance). they are welcoming and disarming

Performance
I'd rather Catwoman wasn't like everyother Gina Gershan character who always sounds like shes on the other side of a phone sex line. I'd rather see her as a flirtatious thrill-seeker. Something along the lines of her character in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. She was sexy in Constantine (the deleted scenes anyway), she was tough but emotional in Gone Baby Gone, she was desperate and a little manic in Eagle Eye, and she was awesome in kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I think when you combine them you get a great Catwoman.

[Majik1387]

No thanks to Monoghan and Morrison. They lack an "umph" about them that Catwoman has.

[Mr. Earle]

Michelle Monaghan for Catwoman
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8346/michellecatyz8.jpg

Now that is dedication!

Looks
She's got a slinky sexy body type, one that makes sense for a cat burglar that relies on moving through small places and in shadows. She has a very alluring smile and eyes, more flirtatious than uber-sexy (see Performance). they are welcoming and disarming.Now that you re talking about her body and all, it reminds me that Morrison who i am proposing is quite petite so that could be a concern...

Performance
I'd rather Catwoman wasn't like everyother Gina Gershan character who always sounds like shes on the other side of a phone sex line. I'd rather see her as a flirtatious thrill-seeker. Something along the lines of her character in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. She was sexy in Constantine (the deleted scenes anyway), she was tough but emotional in Gone Baby Gone, she was desperate and a little manic in Eagle Eye, and she was awesome in kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I think when you combine them you get a great Catwoman.
I dont want a hooker Catwoman either. Anyway, her lisp and voice make her too sweet dont you think? The lisp especially is too cute.

[cerealkiller182]

Now that is dedication!

Not difficult

[Mr. Earle]

Also you guys, we have to imagine the woman we are proposing opposite Bale and in Nolan's set and world. She has to fit all that, so can you seriously see Denise Richards next to Bale? She could only play one of his escorts when he crashes his party with the chopper.

[Laderlappen]

Also you guys, we have to imagine the woman we are proposing opposite Bale and in Nolan's set and world. She has to fit all that, so can you seriously see Denise Richards next to Bale? She could only play one of his escorts when he crashes his party with the chopper.Are you talking about acting or looks?

[Mr. Earle]

Are you talking about acting or looks?I suppose everything has to fit.

[Laderlappen]

Well yeah. I mean if the best choice you can think of isnt a great actress and doesnt look the part very much, then there's something wrong with you.

[batboy99]

I proposed Rhona Mitra a loooooong time ago, and got slammed for it. Everyone said she was too "manly".
Mitra is an underrated choice.

[returntovoid]

Yeh from the beginning ive never had any understanding for anyone who claimed not to be able to see her in the role. Those calling for a jolie type round the clock sex pot arent really seing all the character's layers. and i mean come on look at that face, those eyebrows, shes perfect

I completely agree, Weisz is a better choice and far more attractive than the vastly overrated Jolie.

[Darlton]

Well, I don't know no one has made a new poll, but here I go, I took the liberty. I hope there's no problem with it. I hope people still keep the great debates that take place here but vote in the new poll down the new thread. Please, vote. Here's the link:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=327342

And if anyone is upset because their fave actress didn't make the cut (only 40 slots available) please, feel free to complain. Don't let your choice go unheard.

p.s. let's see how much time this new poll lives.

[Two-Face]

Michelle Monaghan for Catwoman
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8346/michellecatyz8.jpg

Looks
She's got a slinky sexy body type, one that makes sense for a cat burglar that relies on moving through small places and in shadows. She has a very alluring smile and eyes, more flirtatious than uber-sexy (see Performance). they are welcoming and disarming

Performance
I'd rather Catwoman wasn't like everyother Gina Gershan character who always sounds like shes on the other side of a phone sex line. I'd rather see her as a flirtatious thrill-seeker. Something along the lines of her character in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. She was sexy in Constantine (the deleted scenes anyway), she was tough but emotional in Gone Baby Gone, she was desperate and a little manic in Eagle Eye, and she was awesome in kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I think when you combine them you get a great Catwoman.




I think she be great too. good choice.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Monaghan seems a little too cutesy for Catwoman.

I don't dislike her but I just don't see her pulling off the role.

[Johnny Drama]

I completely agree, Weisz is a better choice and far more attractive than the vastly overrated Jolie.

:up: :up:

[jaymes_e06]

I think both women are equally gorgeus but...

Rachel Wiesz > Angelina Jolie when it comes to this role.

[HughJackFan420]

:funny:


or INTELLIGENCE for the anally retentive for spelling errors. :lmao:dude you're like a hemroid...get off my @$$

but just throwing another actress Katherine Heigl.

we seen how viscious she can be in Knocked Up. she's beautiful with a great body. and very talented from what I've seen on Grey's Anatomy.

and on a personal note i'm not into blondes but she's very hot.

[WeaponXProject]

or INTELLIGENCE for the anally retentive for spelling errors. :lmao:dude you're like a hemroid...get off my @$$

but just throwing another actress Katherine Heigl.

we seen how viscious she can be in Knocked Up. she's beautiful with a great body. and very talented from what I've seen on Grey's Anatomy.

and on a personal note i'm not into blondes but she's very hot.


I think Heigl is hot but i don't think she's as good as people think just from Knocked Up. Her new movie is getting knocked on alot and I just can't stand how much she doesn't put the buis above herself. She demands high money amounts and confronts directors like Apatow and challenges the writing staff. She's a ******, I'll give her that but she isn't someone I would want in a Batman movie.


And Rachel Weisz, though hot, is not near Angelina Jolie when she puts herself together, imo. I think people are just sick of Angelina but that doesn't make Rachel better looking.

[HughJackFan420]

I think Heigl is hot but i don't think she's as good as people think just from Knocked Up. Her new movie is getting knocked on alot and I just can't stand how much she doesn't put the buis above herself. She demands high money amounts and confronts directors like Apatow and challenges the writing staff. She's a ******, I'll give her that but she isn't someone I would want in a Batman movie.


And Rachel Weisz, though hot, is not near Angelina Jolie when she puts herself together, imo. I think people are just sick of Angelina but that doesn't make Rachel better looking.


well i think Angelina is a little aged but I do see you're point. I honestly think Angelina is still hot even at her age yet she would've been perfect a few years back like when she did Gia. and just throwing this out there but i would like Monica Belluci. the only thing that might hurt her here is her accent and age but she's super hot. if anything Catwoman would need to be played by a very voluptous and curvaceous actress. that's why I went with Alicia Keys at first yet some rather go with the less bodied actresses and want more talent.

[Crook]

or INTELLIGENCE for the anally retentive for spelling errors. :lmao:dude you're like a hemroid...get off my @$$
Not picking on you. I'll always laugh at the irony in talking about intelligence and managing to mess up it's spelling, haha. Oh and it's "hemorrhoid". Just saying. :o

I think both women are equally gorgeus but...

Rachel Wiesz > Angelina Jolie when it comes to this role.
Rachel will be entirely too old by the time they start filming. Neither are getting younger, but I would say at this point Jolie would be the more viable choice. Acting-wise, I'd put Jolie's top three best performances above Weisz'.

[Illuminata]

Acting-wise, I'd put Jolie's top three best performances above Weisz'.


You lost seriously credibility there, bud.

Weisz is an amazing actress that has done far more serious and incredible roles than Jolie. Weisz is a real actress while Jolie is box office poison.

[Mister J]

Does this thing really need an updated poll?

[Two-Face]

You lost seriously credibility there, bud.

Weisz is an amazing actress that has done far more serious and incredible roles than Jolie. Weisz is a real actress while Jolie is box office poison.


Well you just lost seriously credibility there bud for suggesting "Bryan Singer for Batman 3" :hehe:

[Crook]

You lost seriously credibility there, bud.

Weisz is an amazing actress that has done far more serious and incredible roles than Jolie.

Jolie in Girl Interrupted, Changeling, and Gia were all fantastic. Overall, that top 3 beats Weisz' equivalent top 3, imo. You are free to contend that if you wish.

Weisz is a real actress while Jolie is box office poison.
As opposed to Jolie who's had more awards and nominations than Weisz, AND whose films have actually made money?

[WeaponXProject]

You lost seriously credibility there, bud.

Weisz is an amazing actress that has done far more serious and incredible roles than Jolie.


Not only is your statement senseless with no reference but did you know Jolie has multiple Oscar noms and wins in great roles.

Also, what has Weisz had as the main character that has been a huge success outside of the Mummy? And they were Brendon Fraiser movies in my opinion that made them fun. Has Weisz ever been nominated for an Oscar?

[Mr. Earle]

Not only is your statement senseless with no reference but did you know Jolie has multiple Oscar noms and wins in great roles.

Also, what has Weisz had as the main character that has been a huge success outside of the Mummy? And they were Brendon Fraiser movies in my opinion that made them fun. Has Weisz ever been nominated for an Oscar?Brendan Fraiser was awesome!!!
Brendan Fraiser for Catwoman! :hehe:
Anyway, Weisz has also played in the Fountain, The Constant Gardener and Constantine....
I dont think she is as acclaimed as Jolie! I'd like neither of those.

Marion Cotillard for the win! :grin:

[batboy99]

Does this thing really need an updated poll?
Dont really think so. If no one likes the choices on the poll, thats what the ''other'' choice is for.

[Darlton]

Does this thing really need an updated poll?

I thought so. This one has been around for ages, it seems that since before Maggie Gyllenhaal casting was announced. The new one is expanded with many suggestions that are now buried in the first pages of this one and some of the newest. For people with "buyer's remorse" or other people who voted before reading the debate and weren't as informed about other actresses, well, it's good for them because they can vote again. And, while looking for casting suggestions in the 391 pages, I noticed many people asking for a new poll. I hope the mods keep it there and let it fly for a time, just to see how it goes.

thank you. Again, here's a link to the new poll...
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17223968

[Darlton]

Dont really think so. If no one likes the choices on the poll, thats what the ''other'' choice is for.

"Other" covers all kinds of things. This poll only has 15 names, and many of the fan favorites aren't included. The people who has to check for "other" may feel really excluded. It doesn't hurt to make a new one. In fact, it's an improvement in every way.

[batboy99]

Which ''fan favorites?'' And these were the choices being mentioned at the time this thread was made, sorry I cant predict the future.

[Darlton]

Which is completely fine, and that's why I made such an emphasis on how good this thread is and why people shouldn't see it as moving from one thread to another, but just keep the great debates here and vote in the other poll. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone here. But the poll could surely use an update, and I can't understand why some people are reluctant to it. What's so bad about it?

[batboy99]

Well than that is just pointless. Why have two threads? Besides the fact that it wastes space, it is also confusing for people. If you're gonna make a new poll, tell them to close this thread.(Though I dont want that to happen) And I think a mod can update the poll. Just dont include Murphy and Deschanel this time :p

[Darlton]

If a mod can update the poll, that's great. We don't have any guarantee of that happening, so I hope the other thread stays opnened until that moment, just in case. It is not a waste of space because, let's be frank, as far as I know, there's a lot of space surplus around here. It doesn't confuse people at all. The title and the first post are more than clarifying. Besides, I have a hunch that this thread will stay more active than the new one. If I could make the new poll here, I'd be more than delighted. That's not the case. I hope a mod can (and wants to) update the poll without creating a new thread for it.
Keep Murphy and Deschanel. I don't fancy them for Catwoman, but as it turns out, other people do. And since there are more than 40 names out there... well, compromise.

[july]

Having just seen Public Enemies, theres no doubt Marion Cotillard is right up there with Cate Blanchett as one of the finest actresses on the planet- her last scene in the movie was awesome. I do agree with most people that the film was kinda slow and dull but whenever Marion was onscreen, she commanded it and you couldn't take your eyes off her and that screen presence alone is what makes her the absolute best choice for catwoman. No other candidate on the poll has that charisma or sense of mystery.

[Two-Face]

Having just seen Public Enemies, theres no doubt Marion Cotillard is right up there with Cate Blanchett as one of the finest actresses on the planet- her last scene in the movie was awesome. I do agree with most people that the film was kinda slow and dull but whenever Marion was onscreen, she commanded it and you couldn't take your eyes off her and that screen presence alone is what makes her the absolute best choice for catwoman. No other candidate on the poll has that charisma or sense of mystery.


Yes there are than Marion Cotillard.

[Majik1387]

Rachel Weisz for one.

[Dark Knight]

The top choices for the role of Selina Kyle/Catwoman IMO should be in no particular order...

Angelina Jolie
Marion Cotillard
Rachel Weisz
Kate Winslett
Eva Green

I used to be a fan of Natalie Portman for the role but she is gonna be in the dead end Thor film, so I highly doubt she ends up being Selina.

[batboy99]

Weisz, Jolie, hell, even Russell.

[batboy99]

Having just seen Public Enemies, theres no doubt Marion Cotillard is right up there with Cate Blanchett as one of the finest actresses on the planet- her last scene in the movie was awesome. I do agree with most people that the film was kinda slow and dull but whenever Marion was onscreen, she commanded it and you couldn't take your eyes off her and that screen presence alone is what makes her the absolute best choice for catwoman. No other candidate on the poll has that charisma or sense of mystery.
So are you saying shes better than Cate or that Cate isnt good?

[Darlton]

Neither. "Right up there with Cate as one of the finest actresses on the planet" means they're both very good.

[batboy99]

Oops, I read it wrong.

I think they are both great as well. I think they're both two of the best actresses in Hollywood.

[jmc]

I agree with the above statement, and I'm convinced Cotillard is gonna be the biggest actress France has ever produced. Like genuine worldwide A-Lister.

[batboy99]

Good, she deserves it.

[Cunning Stunts]

Not picking on you. I'll always laugh at the irony in talking about intelligence and managing to mess up it's spelling, haha. Oh and it's "hemorrhoid". Just saying. :o


Rachel will be entirely too old by the time they start filming. Neither are getting younger, but I would say at this point Jolie would be the more viable choice. Acting-wise, I'd put Jolie's top three best performances above Weisz'.

I put that as my surname in my mother's cellphone.

[Crook]

I agree with the above statement, and I'm convinced Cotillard is gonna be the biggest actress France has ever produced. Like genuine worldwide A-Lister.
I still think she's a long ways off. Public Enemies isn't gonna do much for her American career. And that accent is gonna be a detriment if she plans to be in leading roles. The British have their native tongue "accepted" in Hollywood by now. French, not so much.

I put that as my surname in my mother's cellphone.
Such a wonderful son. :o

[Darlton]

I still think she's a long ways off. Public Enemies isn't gonna do much for her American career. And that accent is gonna be a detriment if she plans to be in leading roles. The British have their native tongue "accepted" in Hollywood by now. French, not so much.

If mastering american accent is all there is between her and stardom, there isn't much. Talented, dedicated actors and actresses master accents all the time and there are accent instructors out there too. Her career is already rising. Public Enemies placed her against two of Hollywood's biggest names, and when Nine is released she will be in cast comprised mostly of Oscar winner, in a film which seems to be the next Chicago. And that still leaves Inception, Nolan's next film. And we've seen the rest of the cast there.

Seriously, I can't think of any French actress who has accomplished so much. And she's working with A-Listers everywhere she goes, so... really, if she could pull that off, mastering American accent is not too hard.

[Darlton]

Glad to see how the new poll was quickly removed and the new thread dissapeared with no trace of it. Great work, mods... keep it up. Really feeling the love for progress around here.

[flickchick85]

Aww, I came in just in time to see the lovely new poll, vote on it, and then, nothing. Sad, I was so happy I could finally give Marion my vote. Bravo on the effort at least, Darlton. :up:

Anyway, having been gone for a few days I have to play a little catch-up here, so apologies for bringing up a post that's several days old, but I hate leaving responses unanswered:

Which is perfect. I really like that. That way, he has new problems when he figures that out: the problem of deciding what to do with her. It would be like "I know I have to stop her, but I'm not sure I want to."
We definitely agree on that part.


I get what you're saying, but I also think her knowing his indentity would open all kinds of worm cans. She's volatile and radical and there will be a moment when he stands in her way and I can't really think one reason she wouldn't turn him in, at least begrudgingly but doing it to advance her more important plans. Hell, if other really smart villains have tried to figure it out but haven't, how would she? A strike of luck.
She wouldn't turn him in for the same reason the Joker didn't want Coleman Reese to in the end - she sees her and Batman as having their own little power struggle, above the masses, and it would spoil her fun. It would be "below her" to simply turn him in. She wants to win in their philosophical battle. Turning him in would simply be a cop-out on her part, equal to defeat. No way she'd do that. She couldn't manipulate him if he were in prison. As for how she'd find out, that would be easy to do - a distinctive scar on his face from one of their confrontations would work, for example.

Besides, the Catwoman I have in my mind is more than capable of manipulating and pulling the right strings in Batman without knowing he is Bruce Wayne. That's how she has done for many years in the comics and the wirters have come up with a nearly infinite number of ways to achieve this. Some are corny and cartoony, some are very clever, and some are real character studies. I think Nolan can keep the relationship dynamic without revealing his indentity. Hers? Well, Bats can find out anything about any of his villains as long as they're not the Joker. Other than that, it's ok with me.
Well, I haven't read those stories, so I'm sure there are some good ones. But her finding out would be much more interesting than Batman finding out about her, imo, since Batman learning a villain's identity would just be a kind of been there, done that, approach.



One of the points of the movie has to be that theirs is not a real, normal relationship. Or that is the closest Bruce can have to one, because she's able to see through the costume. It's got be a magnetic weird relationship, and she doesn't have to know everything about him because that would open a way for them to have a more normal, stable relationship away from crime scenes and rooftops. But that can't be. It can't really be because then the whole tension their relationship thrives on, would fade away.
I never said normal, I said REAL. And I do think their relationship should be real. But far, FAR from normal. And I agree, they could never settle down and the tension should always be there. It doesn't go away if she learns who he is, imo. It makes it so that she sees the cards on the table and knows the stakes.

Besides, if she finds out he's Bruce Wayne, that won't necessarily mean she'll know him completely, down to his very essence. That won't mean she will like him better. For a good example on the subject, see his "friend since childhood" and "aware of his two identities" Rachel Dawes. Did Rachel really know what Bruce was about, in his most inner self? I don't think so. Did she really love him for knowing that? Certainly not. I know she and Selina come from different places, but I'm trying to stress how knowing secret identities doesn't make or destroy relationships. It's just another piece of information. Nothing more. With the right chemistry and intuition about each other, Batman and Catwoman can have a more close and intense relationship, than he and Rachel ever had. Even in less time.
Exactly. That's exactly why I want her to find out - because she'd be completely different than Rachel was with that knowledge. I want that contrast with Rachel. Selina WOULD understand him in the way the Rachel never did, but she'd want to push him even further in the other direction. It's like two opposite sides of the spectrum, in a way. Rachel was the one who couldn't accept this darker side of him, wanted him to work within the system, while Selina embraces this side of him, and thinks his adherence to Rachel's beliefs/way of thinking/"guidance" is holding him back and that he could go "darker" when it comes to the law and doing what's best for Gotham...like her.


Yikes. We certainly don't have the same character in mind. I really cannot bring myself to think of a scenario where Catwoman is the pushover who gets the short end of the relationship. That's Batman role, not her.
Whoa, I certainly don't think Selina's a pushover just because she doesn't turn him in or destroy him if she gets this bit of information over him, or continues the relationship knowing it's doomed. I think they're both getting short ends of the relationship, yet neither can resist.



No no, I want quite a lot of the love. But you see him as the harder one and she as a more indulgent one. And I see it the other way around. You're making her too easy to love. I say let's make her more complex and really hard to grasp. The audience needs to feel Batman's frustration on the matter, not hers.
I don't think Batman should be the more indulgent one, so you're right, there is a point where we see this going much differently. Batman has his code, and essentially sees things in black-and-white. Criminals and citizens...and him. Catwoman should come into the picture and try and shake-up that worldview of his. I think the audience should be able to see both sides of the argument, and I think they'd be feeling frustrations from both sides as well.


Also:
I still think she's a long ways off. Public Enemies isn't gonna do much for her American career. And that accent is gonna be a detriment if she plans to be in leading roles. The British have their native tongue "accepted" in Hollywood by now. French, not so much.

I guess it depends on what you consider A-list. If you mean it in the Julia Roberts sense of the term (carrying huge commercial successes on name alone), then I agree. But I dunno, there's A-list stars, and there's A-list talent. I'd consider Penelope Cruz to be A-list talent, in that she gets awesome roles in all kinds of different films and name recognition that starts to equate to quality. And if she can do that, with an accent even thicker than Marion's, then I think there's a good chance we can expect that kind of success from Marion as well. I certainly think she'll have a better career in American films than Audrey Tautou or Juliette Binoche, at any rate. And since winning the Oscar, she's already making better American movies/choices/roles than Eva Green, imo. So yes, I think there's a very good chance she'll be the biggest actress to come out of France in a very long time, if not ever.

[Laderlappen]

I already find her to be the most talanted actress from france ever.

[Johnny Drama]

She is really the best option possible.

[Mr. Earle]

I already find her to be the most talanted actress from france ever.Be a fanboy, but dont be an ignorant one. Dont tell me you ve seen a lot of French films to have a justified opinion...

[Darlton]

Thanks Flichchick, thank you very much. I know, I don't really know what was the problem with making a new poll. Maybe they'll update this one, maybe they won't and just didn't like having a new thread that's basically the same thing as this one. Maybe they don't think updating the poll is worth the trouble. Anyway, the mods are too powerful and I'm too lazy to get into 'civil disobediance' mode right now, so...

I'm really surprised that you resumed that old discussion. I don't have to tell you that I probably won't remember what exactly we were arguing over, but let's give it a try:

She wouldn't turn him in for the same reason the Joker didn't want Coleman Reese to in the end - she sees her and Batman as having their own little power struggle, above the masses, and it would spoil her fun.

I get it, and that sounds like her, but it also sounds too much like the Joker. Wouldn't there be danger to get into repetitive territory? There is a reason for Bruce to keep his identity secret from everybody, and I think Nolan gets that. In the last movie, one little man finds by mistake and all hell breaks loose. Too many people know about Bruce, but that problem it's starting to be fixed with Rachel's death and Reese keeping quiet for his life, and for gratitude. Let's keep it that way. To make her spare Batman like the Joker did would render the prospect of someone finding out Batman's identity completely harmless. And that's definetely not the way to go...

Besides, if we support a populist Catwoman with a social agenda, thinking of herself as "above the masses" doesn't seem really fitting.

It would be "below her" to simply turn him in.

A Catwoman with principles is a less dangerous (and less feared) Catwoman. She's already one of the less dangerous characters, but one of the things she has going for her is her will to break limits and her unpredicability. At least how I see it. If she crosses sides all the time and never keeps allies, how are we supposed to believe she spares Batman "on principle".

She wants to win in their philosophical battle. Turning him in would simply be a cop-out on her part, equal to defeat. No way she'd do that. She couldn't manipulate him if he were in prison.

That sounds an awful lot like the Joker.

As for how she'd find out, that would be easy to do - a distinctive scar on his face from one of their confrontations would work, for example.

If I were a smart, dedicated, billionare vigilante... and my billion dollar couldn't pay for a method of concealing that scar... I would really avoid being seen in public. I think we're thinking of Bruce in very defenseless and passive terms here.

I never said normal, I said REAL. And I do think their relationship should be real. But far, FAR from normal. And I agree, they could never settle down and the tension should always be there. It doesn't go away if she learns who he is, imo. It makes it so that she sees the cards on the table and knows the stakes.

Well, let me see how I put this.... since the Joker seemed to influence and affect Batman a great deal without knowing his identity, I propose Catwoman can do the same, or better, without knowing it either. Maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, but knowing his identity to make the relationship real sounds too... masculine. And I mean that in very abstract ways. Catwoman strikes me as someone who's very intuitive. If when you say "Real" you're talking about "Real Feelings", I really think she can have real feelings without knowing he's Bruce Wayne. I really do. I also feel she can sense the stakes only from interacting with the Batman persona. That's their connection. She doesn't need anything else. To introduce that element of revealed identity is too direct, too positive, too clear... to masculine. And she is more confusing, obscure, intuitive... feminine. But again, maybe I'm talking esoteric bs out of my a-s-s.

However, I do know for sure that there are considerably less obstacles for them to have a normal relationship if Selina can go to Wayne Manor, knock the door, have diner with Bruce, make love with him and then say goodbye to him from the cave as he goes to work in the batmobile. It's still not a normal relationship, but far more normal than what they should have. With them, it's only the masks. For her, there is no other identity. Only the freedom of the costumes and the rooftops. To be interested in who he is before nightfall sounds very un-Catwoman.

And even if she finds out accidentally, and doesn't really use that information against him... would she tell him she knows? Because she's a criminal, and he's a criminal hunter. And the moment none of them want to send the other one to the cops undefinetaly it's.... well, a stagnant, corny story. They're both very smart individuals, but very compassive. Other character may not be so good.

I can picture it:
Bruce and Selina are in a gala and she spots a scar in his chin. She approaches him and says:
SELINA: "I know your secret, Bruce."
BRUCE (surprised): "And now I know yours."
The Riddler and his men break in:
RIDDLER: And I know both! Who would have guessed? Well, of course... me.

Exactly. That's exactly why I want her to find out - because she'd be completely different than Rachel was with that knowledge. I want that contrast with Rachel. Selina WOULD understand him in the way the Rachel never did, but she'd want to push him even further in the other direction. It's like two opposite sides of the spectrum, in a way.

The contrast is even bigger if she treats him the way you want without having that knowledge. Catwoman accepts him without knowing anything about his identity. That way, the symmetry wouldn't be so perfect, which is corny.

[Mr. Earle]

i thought we were talking about the casting and not the plot of a film with catwoman, but anyway...

[Darlton]

Ughh, I hate when someone makes me state the obvious. There's no way to say this now without sounding awkward. Well, here we go...


... "Characterization and plot are good guidelines for cast choosing".


There, now you're a wiser person ...You're welcome, don't mention it.

[Hamill-Joker]

I'm actually kind of fancying Milla Jovovich to play Catwoman.

[jmc]

I still think she's a long ways off. Public Enemies isn't gonna do much for her American career. And that accent is gonna be a detriment if she plans to be in leading roles. The British have their native tongue ''accepted'' in Hollywood by now. French, not so much.




Didn't say she made it yet, but if it's not Nine, I'll put money on it being Inception that catapults her. Seriously, I can't think of any French actress who has accomplished so much. And she's working with A-Listers everywhere she goes, so... really, if she could pull that off, mastering American accent is not too hard.

So true.

[Ace of Knaves]

Why did Darlton get banned? Anyone know?

And I'm all for Cotillard. She's not my #1 choice, but I definitely wouldn't complain.

I still like Ryder and Blunt though.

[kid dropper]

yeh seriously, i dont understand how banning works, ive been seriously vulgar and belligerent and not gotten banned for it, but i seen guys disappear off these boards after the skightest of rows.... like, whatever happened to protoctista? i miss that guy

[Two-Face]

<I want Lucy Pinder as Catwoman. Oh yeah!

[Ace of Knaves]

Maybe in a Catwoman porno or something. Damn...Lucy Pinder doing porn. *faints*

[Two-Face]

Maybe in a Catwoman porno or something. Damn...Lucy Pinder doing porn. *faints*

She wouldn't have to say anything to Bale or Nolan, treat it like a glamour photoshoot. :hehe

I'm j/k :hoboj:

[Ace of Knaves]

:hehe: Let her body do the talking ;)

[Two-Face]

Oh yeah, I can see it

Bale saying: "Don't just stand there eat it"

[Ace of Knaves]

:funny:

"What don't you ****ing understand! Get your ****ing tits out!"

[Laderlappen]

Be a fanboy, but dont be an ignorant one. Dont tell me you ve seen a lot of French films to have a justified opinion...Im ignorant because I have a different opinion than you? Im not alowed to like her more than any other french actress? Seriously grow up or get the F out of her.

[regwec]

I think Eva Green is superior; but then I would kill a man just to bury my face in her cleavage.

Ahem.

[Mr. Earle]

I think Eva Green is superior; but then I would kill a man just to bury my face in her cleavage.

Ahem.That makes two of us. My god is she... gifted!

[Mr. Earle]

Im ignorant because I have a different opinion than you? Im not alowed to like her more than any other french actress? Seriously grow up or get the F out of her.Stating that Cotillard is the best actress isnt ignorant unless you have seen other great french actresses and compared. Have you seen Deneuve for example?

Also, could someone explain to me why he/she likes Blunt? No offence, but she isnt so accomplished, she isnt that beautiful.... so... i fail to see why everyone was proposing her for the role of Black Widow in IM2, or Catwoman here.

[Laderlappen]

I have actually.

Its like a sin to call a "new" actor or acterss great unless they have worked for 15+ years, no matter how great their acting is.

[jaymes_e06]

Stating that Cotillard is the best actress isnt ignorant unless you have seen other great french actresses and compared. Have you seen Deneuve for example?

Also, could someone explain to me why he/she likes Blunt? No offence, but she isnt so accomplished, she isnt that beautiful.... so... i fail to see why everyone was proposing her for the role of Black Widow in IM2, or Catwoman here.
I beg to differ on the beautiful part but to each his own. And she is very accomplished for an actress her age.
List of Awards and nominations:

advertisementBAFTA Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2007 Nominated BAFTA Film Award Best Actress in a Supporting Role
for: The Devil Wears Prada (2006)


Rising Star Award

British Independent Film Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2004 Nominated British Independent Film Award Most Promising Newcomer
for: My Summer of Love (2004)



Evening Standard British Film Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2005 Won Evening Standard British Film Award Most Promising Newcomer
for: My Summer of Love (2004)
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Golden Globes, USA
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2007 Won Golden Globe Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
for: Gideon's Daughter (2005) (TV)


Nominated Golden Globe Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture
for: The Devil Wears Prada (2006)



London Critics Circle Film Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2007 Won ALFS Award British Supporting Actress of the Year
for: The Devil Wears Prada (2006)



2005 Nominated ALFS Award British Newcomer of the Year
for: My Summer of Love (2004)



MTV Movie Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2007 Nominated MTV Movie Award Best Comedic Performance
for: The Devil Wears Prada (2006)


Breakthrough Performance
for: The Devil Wears Prada (2006)



Motovun Film Festival
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2005 Won Special Mention
for: My Summer of Love (2004)
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Teen Choice Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2006 Nominated Teen Choice Award Movies - Choice Breakout (Female)
for: The Devil Wears Prada (2006)

Women in Film Crystal Awards
Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2007 Won Face of the Future

[Two-Face]

:funny:

"What don't you ****ing understand! Get your ****ing tits out!"



Even better :lmao:

[Cunning Stunts]

I think Eva Green is superior; but then I would kill a man just to bury my face in her cleavage.

Ahem.

That makes two of us. My god is she... gifted!

She's still my #1 choice for Catwoman... Then I saw The Dreamers.

I must marry this woman. :dry:

[Javadude222]

Olivia Wilde??!!??

[Two-Face]

No.

[Ace of Knaves]

Never heard of her.

[batboy99]

If she gains some weight, sure.


And about Eva Green, she can play anything, I dont care, as long as we see some nice funbags :D

[Two-Face]

If she gains some weight, sure.


And about Eva Green, she can play anything, I dont care, as long as we see some nice funbags :D

Green for Ivy, Catwoman, Harley etc....:hehe:

[july]

I'm kinda surprised Eva Green hasn't emerged as a bigger star after Casino Royale. She's stunning, a pretty good actress and sexy as hell but her career has stalled and she's in danger of becoming another c-grade ex bond girl. I would rather she star in Great french films rather than crappy b grade English language ones.

[jaymes_e06]

If she gains some weight, sure.


And about Eva Green, she can play anything, I dont care, as long as we see some nice funbags :D
You know what hell yeah! The more I think about it the more I love the idea.

Guys since the movie will start filming next year what are the chances we see CW in the movie? I'm thinking there's a great chance she and The Riddler will be the main villians.

[Two-Face]

Catwoman shouldn't be a main villain.

[Majik1387]

I can't see Green as Catwoman, Talia, or Ivy...

[Johnny Drama]

That makes one of you.

[Mr. Earle]

I can't see Green as Catwoman, Talia, or Ivy...
As much as i love her boobs, i agree. I actually dislike her a lot because she and the plot of Casino Royale pissed me off. She's still my #1 choice for Catwoman... Then I saw The Dreamers.

I must marry this woman. :dry:That movie was... sick (in a bad way)... It was only watchable for 1 reason.... well... make that two (if you know what i mean).

[Learnedcitizen]

flickchick85, I have to be honest with you. You have some of the finest ideas in this forum :yay: When it comes to a darkly stoic and brooding superhero like Batman, romance doesn't seem to have strong presence. But I have always found Batman's/Bruce tortured relationship with Catwoman/Selina to be one of the most enjoyable things about the comics. Your "tragic love doomed for failure" angle is provacative and refreshing, because it engages the audience on an emotional level that has yet to be accomplished in Nolan's films, or any film in The Batman franchise. But there's definitely a conflict of ideals and identities that lends itself to dark themes as well. Indeed, it reminds me a lot of the tortured relationship in film noir, between the femme fatale and the male protagonist who are forced to deal with moral ambiguities that unravel them psychologically and sexually.

I can easily see this same dynamic with Batman and Catwoman. With Batman on the run and being chased by the very people he has sacrificed himself for..alone....cut off from his allies.... and having lost his long-time love, he meets the one woman who is willing to accept him for who he truly is, and yet should he embrace her, "Batman" as we know would crumble. Whatever romance they share as Selina and Bruce, Batman and Catwoman are ultimately irreconcilable, and their love is doomed to fail. If and however Nolan decides to portray Catwoman, I just hope she will add to the larger story of redemption (which will hopefully be the central theme to the sequel).

Something like this has never been attempted in superhero cinema. One of the reasons TDK was so brilliant, was that it provided for rich characterization that was unprecedented for a film of its kind. Imagine how awesome it would be to portray a romance that is as exotic, tragic, and riveting as the great noir films of the past -- and with some of the most iconic superheroes to boot? Sweet! :woot:

[Laderlappen]

That makes one of you.2. She cant handle it.

[Nina7]

I have actually.

Its like a sin to call a "new" actor or acterss great unless they have worked for 15+ years, no matter how great their acting is.

Marion C. is at the beginning of her career and her best work is yet to come. I like her, but I don't think she's the best actress to come out of France. France has always produced brilliant actresses. Isabelle Huppert, Juliette Binoche, and Isabelle Adjani are better, imo. I feel their body of work(mostly in French films) is more impressive. However, Marion will probably have more success in mainstream Hollywood than the aformentioned actresses. Huppert, Binoche, and Adjani were never quite able to transition to Hollywood. French actresses have a devilishly difficult time doing that.

[Laderlappen]

If Marion ever makes a performance superior to the on in LVOR, Ill consider her one of the best ever.

[jmc]

Marion C. is at the beginning of her career and her best work is yet to come. I like her, but I don't think she's the best actress to come out of France. France has always produced brilliant actresses. Isabelle Huppert, Juliette Binoche, and Isabelle Adjani are better, imo. I feel their body of work(mostly in French films) is more impressive. However, Marion will probably have more success in mainstream Hollywood than the aformentioned actresses. Huppert, Binoche, and Adjani were never quite able to transition to Hollywood. French actresses have a devilishly difficult time doing that.

Does seem odd that more French actresses haven't had a bigger impact on Hollywood, there's a huge talent pool over there.

[jmc]

flickchick85, I have to be honest with you. You have some of the finest ideas in this forum :yay: When it comes to a darkly stoic and brooding superhero like Batman, romance doesn't seem to have strong presence. But I have always found Batman's/Bruce tortured relationship with Catwoman/Selina to be one of the most enjoyable things about the comics. Your ''tragic love doomed for failure'' angle is proactive and refreshing, because it engages the audience on an emotional level that has yet to be accomplished in Nolan's films, or any film in The Batman franchise. But there's definitely a conflict of ideals and identities that lends itself to dark themes as well. Indeed, it reminds me a lot of the tortured relationship in film noir, between femme fatale and male protagonists who are forced to deal with moral ambiguities that unravel them psychologically.

I can easily see this same dynamic with Batman and Catwoman. With Batman on the run and being chased by the very people he has sacrificed himself for..alone....cut off from his allies.... and having lost his long-time love, he meets the one woman who is willing to accept him for who he truly is, and yet should he embrace her, ''Batman'' as we know would crumble. Whatever romance they share as Selina and Bruce, Batman and Catwoman are ultimately irreconcilable, and their love is doomed to fail. If and however Nolan decides to portray Catwoman, I just hope she will add to the larger story of redemption (which will surely be the central theme to the sequel).

Something like this has never been attempted in superhero cinema. One of the reasons TDK was so brilliant, was that it provided for rich characterization that was unprecedented for a film of its kind. Imagine how awesome it would be to portray a romance that is as exotic, tragic, and riveting as the great noir films of the past -- and with some of the most iconic superheroes to boot? Sweet! :woot:

There's definitely a story there in what you described.

[jaymes_e06]

Catwoman shouldn't be a main villain.
Why not?:huh:

I mean technically she isn't a "villian" anyway and more of an anti-heroine.

Do you not think she should be in the third sequal at all?

[jmc]

I wish people would stop labeling Catwoman a villain.

[Mr. Earle]

jmc, i like your avatar. Who's that girl?

Catwoman is always on the line that divides hero from anti-hero... I think Nolan could work his magic on this one and give us a great plot!

[jaymes_e06]

I wish people would stop labeling Catwoman a villain.
Exactly! She is a dark anti-herione.

[Mr. Earle]

the avatar is Kate HudsonAnd what movie is that? She looks hot there!

[Laderlappen]

Nine. You need to see the trailer, it looks really good.

[DavidTyler]

I know she's too old for the part but I can't help picturing Demi Moore as Selina/Catwoman.

[Mr. Earle]

Nine. You need to see the trailer, it looks really good.Wow, it was great!
Btw, seeing Cotillard next to Cruz i have to say she owned her as far as beauty was concerned.

Hudson could be great as Catwoman too. She is flat chested though. Does that matter? :hehe:

[jaymes_e06]

^yes!

[Two-Face]

Why not?:huh:

I mean technically she isn't a "villian" anyway and more of an anti-heroine.

Do you not think she should be in the third sequal at all?

I'm one of those people who Catwoman in the third movie. Use Joker or Riddler as the main villain. Catwoman should be second.

[Dark Knight]

Catwoman shouldn't be a main villain.



Exactly....she should be portrayed as the anti-heroine that she is....

[Dark Knight]

flickchick85, I have to be honest with you. You have some of the finest ideas in this forum :yay: When it comes to a darkly stoic and brooding superhero like Batman, romance doesn't seem to have strong presence. But I have always found Batman's/Bruce tortured relationship with Catwoman/Selina to be one of the most enjoyable things about the comics. Your "tragic love doomed for failure" angle is provacative and refreshing, because it engages the audience on an emotional level that has yet to be accomplished in Nolan's films, or any film in The Batman franchise. But there's definitely a conflict of ideals and identities that lends itself to dark themes as well. Indeed, it reminds me a lot of the tortured relationship in film noir, between the femme fatale and the male protagonist who are forced to deal with moral ambiguities that unravel them psychologically and sexually.

I can easily see this same dynamic with Batman and Catwoman. With Batman on the run and being chased by the very people he has sacrificed himself for..alone....cut off from his allies.... and having lost his long-time love, he meets the one woman who is willing to accept him for who he truly is, and yet should he embrace her, "Batman" as we know would crumble. Whatever romance they share as Selina and Bruce, Batman and Catwoman are ultimately irreconcilable, and their love is doomed to fail. If and however Nolan decides to portray Catwoman, I just hope she will add to the larger story of redemption (which will hopefully be the central theme to the sequel).

Something like this has never been attempted in superhero cinema. One of the reasons TDK was so brilliant, was that it provided for rich characterization that was unprecedented for a film of its kind. Imagine how awesome it would be to portray a romance that is as exotic, tragic, and riveting as the great noir films of the past -- and with some of the most iconic superheroes to boot? Sweet! :woot:





^Exactly, and that is how the dynamic of their relationship should be portrayed in the next Bat film. It would be the ideal relationship dynamic between Batman/Catwoman we have never seen before onscreen in any previous Bat film and it would definitely be fresh, with some fun witty romantic scenes and action, yet with scenes of heavy drama, conflict and emotion as well.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm a big fan of Marion Cotillard.

She'd be way different than Phiffer's Catwoman but still true to the character.. and she has nice breasts.


Can she do an American accent well?

[batboy99]

Lol I love your reasoning :D

[Cunning Stunts]

I'm a big fan of Marion Cotillard.

She'd be way different than Phiffer's Catwoman but still true to the character.. and she has nice breasts.


Can she do an American accent well?

Who cares? I ****ing love that French accent. I say let her use it. :word:

[jaymes_e06]

A French accent would be hot when Selina was CW but not when she is in regular mode. It would be to blarringly obvious they where the same person.

[Mr. Earle]

I'm a big fan of Marion Cotillard.

She'd be way different than Phiffer's Catwoman but still true to the character.. and she has nice breasts.


Can she do an American accent well?It is Pfeiffer who wasnt true to the character. Lol I love your reasoning :DLol

[jaymes_e06]

It is Pfeiffer who wasnt true to the character. Lol
True but she will go down in history as the best CW ever IMB no matter who they cast for the role again.

[Cunning Stunts]

... Uh, I think I'd rather the opposite. Put on the French accent as Selina, and then alter her voice as Catwoman. You know, like Batman does.

[Two-Face]

Selina having a French accent is a nono for me.

[Ace of Knaves]

How about a Hungarian accent? She then takes Bruce home and cooks him some Goulash?

[Mr. Earle]

True but she will go down in history as the best CW ever IMB no matter who they cast for the role again.She was the only one besides that horrible Halle Berry one. So she didnt have much competition until now.
And anyway, imho she was horrible as well but for different reasons. But since B89 was a success, and this is Pfeiffer we re talking about, people are overestimating her Catwoman. I'm sorry, but since when can cats revive a person, and since when is catwoman bat**** crazy? I didnt enjoy her, neither that horrible fetishistic movie.... Uh, I think I'd rather the opposite. Put on the French accent as Selina, and then alter her voice as Catwoman. You know, like Batman does.Agreed.

[Two-Face]

How about a Hungarian accent? She then takes Bruce home and cooks him some Goulash?

No way.:woot:

[jmc]

True but she will go down in history as the best CW ever IMB no matter who they cast for the role again.

I guess the argument against that is that the same was said about Nicholsons Joker.

[Timstuff]

... Uh, I think I'd rather the opposite. Put on the French accent as Selina, and then alter her voice as Catwoman. You know, like Batman does.

If they did cast Cotillard as Catwoman and had her speaking with the French accent while Selina, and an American one while Catwoman, I'd also make it so that when she and Bruce / Batman find out each other's identities she drops the French accent while around him, since she grew up in Gotham and her French accent is just part of the wealthy socialite facade.

[jaymes_e06]

I guess the argument against that is that the same was said about Nicholsons Joker.
There are still people who say Nickolson's Joker was the best. I have no idea why. He was never that great to me.:huh:

[Ace of Knaves]

No way.:woot:

YES WAY!! There is no way this can be denied! It's physics, it's inevitable!

[regwec]

I find it suprising that some people would be content with Selina's nationality changing to French. I would argue that is a much more fundamental alteration of the character than something superficial like race.

[jmc]

I find it suprising that some people would be content with Selina's nationality changing to French. I would argue that is a much more fundamental alteration of the character than something superficial like race.

It's because race and nationality are two different things. There's no rule that says Catwoman has to be a Gotham citizen, in fact in the context of this series it probably makes more sense that she isn't.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I love your suggestions about the french accent (as Selina) being used to conceal her identity.

That's actually pretty smart and realistic.


It's better than her doing Batman's growling voice as Catwoman.

[regwec]

I know they are seperate things; if I didn't, then my post would lack any internal logic.

I am saying that turning Selina into- for example- a black American, would be a less significant change than turning her into a Frenchwoman.

[jmc]

^ Look if you want to get real technical then yes, altering nationalities is as significant a change as much as changing race, but aesthetically it's not and therefore is given more leeway, hence why we've had numerous foreign actresses named as potential candidates. I guess what it comes down to is that vocally, Selina or any character is up for interpretation because we don't know what they sound like, but visually we do.

[jaymes_e06]

I know they are seperate things; if I didn't, then my post would lack any internal logic.

I am saying that turning Selina into- for example- a black American, would be a less significant change than turning her into a Frenchwoman.
Here's a thought... Why can't she just be American and white? :wow::wow::wow:

[regwec]

I don't mind the idea of a Frenchwoman playing Catwoman any more than I mind a Brit playing Batman. I would take issue with Catwoman being reinterpreted as a Frenchwoman in order to allow a French actress to play the part without changing her accent, however. There are enough available actresses in order to avoid this silly outcome.

[Mr. Earle]

I don't mind the idea of a Frenchwoman playing Catwoman any more than I mind a Brit playing Batman. I would take issue with Catwoman being reinterpreted as a Frenchwoman in order to allow a French actress to play the part without changing her accent, however. There are enough available actresses in order to avoid this silly outcome.I agree.

[Jay#1]

Penelope Cruz

[Mr. Earle]

edit

[Johnny Drama]

Penelope Cruz


:dry:

[Alex Logan]

I don't mind the idea of a Frenchwoman playing Catwoman any more than I mind a Brit playing Batman. I would take issue with Catwoman being reinterpreted as a Frenchwoman in order to allow a French actress to play the part without changing her accent, however. There are enough available actresses in order to avoid this silly outcome.

Thank you.

:applaud

[jaymes_e06]

I don't mind the idea of a Frenchwoman playing Catwoman any more than I mind a Brit playing Batman. I would take issue with Catwoman being reinterpreted as a Frenchwoman in order to allow a French actress to play the part without changing her accent, however. There are enough available actresses in order to avoid this silly outcome.
Errr....:cmad: I didn't mean the actor I meant the character. :whatever:

[Cunning Stunts]

I know they are seperate things; if I didn't, then my post would lack any internal logic.

I am saying that turning Selina into- for example- a black American, would be a less significant change than turning her into a Frenchwoman.

I'm not really advocating changing her nationality, but if Nolan was so impressed by Cotillard's performance in Inception, what's saying he might not want to write the part for her? It's not unheard of for writers to do that. Again, this character will have to be adapted to the series (as this isn't a comic book, nor is it the same continuity), meaning it will most likely not be 100% true to its comic counterpart in a few or more senses.

Personally, unless she has ties to Falcone in this series, I don't really care whether or not she's Italian. I mean, I can't judge what I'd want her to be exactly, since we don't know what story we'd get out of Catwoman. If we get a bastard child looking for her father (Falcone), then yeah, it may make a little more sense to delve into Italian roots. If we just get a gorgeous socialite named Selina Kyle who is a fantastic thief and- coincidentally- a life-changing courter for Bruce, what does her nationality matter? Besides, Kyle isn't even an Italian last name (nor is it French, it's derived from the Scots).

I'm more concerned with her attitude and her interactions with Bruce and her opponents than I am with what her nationality- or even her name- is. That's where her character lies.

All that said, if the writing for the character calls for an American accent, great. Make the actress learn an American accent. It's not a big deal to me. I just love Cotillard's accent, and wouldn't mind it one bit if she used it as Selina.

[WeaponXProject]

I'm still really into seeing Thandie Newton play Catwoman/Selina. I like her vulnerability in Crash and her self-assurance and seductive character in Riddick and RockN'Rolla as well as her character in Pursuit of Happiness.

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[jaymes_e06]

If they were to go with an black woman for the role it would be Thandie but I still perfer them using a white actress.

[Cunning Stunts]

I would have been cooler with it if I hadn't seen her naked.

[RachelDawes]

I would have been cooler with it if I hadn't seen her naked.

What's that got to do with anything?

[Cunning Stunts]

Look her up. The horror. :dry:

[WeaponXProject]

I guess I'm the only one that thinks she pretty.:o

Was the image removed because it was from a website? I guess it was...

[regwec]

No, I like Thandie a lot, too.

[Mr.Green]

Monica Belluccihttp://i41.photobucket.com/.../monica-bellucci.jpg

[Cunning Stunts]

No, I like Thandie a lot, too.

Just to clear things up, I was only kidding. Her nude body really doesn't matter to me, and I've never seen a movie with her in it, if I recall correctly.

[Crook]

I must thank this current conversation, as I was curious enough to search the topic. All I can say is Google Image rocks, and that Thandie has got an awesome pair for her frame. Wow. :funny:

[Johnny Drama]

Yeah, CS...

What are you going on about?

[nolan's roll'n]

As much as I would love Angelina Jolie as Catwoman, it would probably be highly unlikely and too much to ask for. I really want Charlize Theron or Scarlett Johansson as Selina Kyle/Catwoman because they have some striking similarities to Michelle Pfeiffer, who nailed the character in Batman Returns. Marion Cotillard would be a great casting choice as well, I was much impressed with her acting after seeing Public Enemies.

[Mr. Earle]

Look her up. The horror. :dry:What are you talking about? She is amazing!

[Two-Face]

Monica Belluccihttp://i41.photobucket.com/.../monica-bellucci.jpg

She's in her 40s man.

[RachelDawes]

What are you talking about? She is amazing!

He was kidding:

Just to clear things up, I was only kidding. Her nude body really doesn't matter to me, and I've never seen a movie with her in it, if I recall correctly.

[regwec]

And sexier than ever.

She probably has too many *ahem* bouncy bits for airborn acrobatics, though.

[Mr. Earle]

He was kidding:
Oh... My apologies then.

And sexier than ever.

She probably has too many *ahem* bouncy bits for airborn acrobatics, though.Says the man rooting for Eva Green... :hehe:

[regwec]

I'm not particularly rooting for her, though I would steal her underwear. I think Emily Blunt is my 'official' pick. Though she is also quite...boingy.

[Superhero Hype!]

Hey all. Please start a new thread on this topic. The thread has gotten too big and is hogging our resources. Thank you.