The New Catwoman Casting Thread

[flickchick85]

David, I understand where you're coming from with the "good acting skills =/= Catwoman" angle. Now, I can't argue with the way Cotillard looks to you, because that's all obviously subjective.

However, I do argue that in Cotillard's previous roles, she has played just about every facet of Selina Kyle: The authority-hating love interest in the Taxi movies, the murderous prostitute femme fatale character in A Very Long Engagement, the feisty-yet-vulnerable restaurant owner in A Good Year, the playful, fearless romantic heroine with a dash of 'crazy' in Love Me if You Dare, and the larger-than-life glamorous showbiz icon in La Vie En Rose (And those are just the ones I've seen). And she played them all extremely well. She's demonstrated FAR more of Selina's qualities than Keri Russell ever did, in Waitress or otherwise, so I think that's an unfair comparison. The only element she hasn't done yet is the blockbuster action element, and most stars eventually step into that arena at least once or twice anyway. That's not really the most difficult aspect of the character. Plus, she seems to be a very physical actress, so I don't think it'll be an issue for her.

It's a lot like Ledger, who had never done a psychotic villain role before, but he had played various aspects of the character in the past that suggested he was up for it. The result was pure magic.

For the record, her English is fine. It's not her first language, but she is fluent in it. So yes, she screws up a word every now and then, but she knows the language. I've noticed it's better when she's not nervous like at the Oscars/interviews. And since she's playing a character from Wisconsin in Public Enemies, and Michael Mann seemed to think her American accent was up to snuff, and word from the set says the same, I see no reason to think otherwise.

I agree with you on Kate Winslet looking like Selina, though, which is one of the reasons she used to by my #1 choice. But there are so many incarnations of Selina, it's hard to base much on that.

We're in total agreement on Theron, too. :)

[Crook]

It's a lot like Ledger, who had never done a psychotic villain role before, but he had played various aspects of the character in the past that suggested he was up for it. The result was pure magic.

You lost me here. :huh:

[flickchick85]

You lost me here. :huh:
He's been quietly disturbed (Monster's Ball), a self-destructive bohemian (Candy), larger-than-life kinda crazy (Lords of Dogtown), an uber-confident bad boy (10 things I Hate About You), a charismatic outlaw (Ned Kelly and Casanova), and he completely altered his voice/mannerisms for Brokeback Mountain.

Though I admit they weren't as spot-on Joker-ish traits as Cotillard's have been for Selina, they still served as evidence that he could be up for the task.

[elgato]

flick chick, you should be the casting director for Batman 3 and future batman movies, nuff said

[flickchick85]

Ha, thanks elgato! I would LOVE that job! :D

But while I totally saw the genius of the casting afterwards, there's no way Heath Ledger would've even crossed my mind before he was cast, which is probably why this sort of thing is best left to the professionals (at least, when the professionals are as brilliant as Nolan & Co). ;)

[jmc]

David, I understand where you're coming from with the "good acting skills =/= Catwoman" angle. Now, I can't argue with the way Cotillard looks to you, because that's all obviously subjective.

However, I do argue that in Cotillard's previous roles, she has played just about every facet of Selina Kyle: The authority-hating love interest in the Taxi movies, the murderous prostitute femme fatale character in A Very Long Engagement, the feisty-yet-vulnerable restaurant owner in A Good Year, the tough, fearless romantic heroine with a dash of 'crazy' in Love Me if You Dare, and the larger-than-life glamorous showbiz icon in La Vie En Rose (And those are just the ones I've seen). And she played them all extremely well. She's demonstrated FAR more of Selina's qualities than Keri Russell ever did, in Waitress or otherwise, so I think that's an unfair comparison. The only element she hasn't done yet is the blockbuster action element, and most stars eventually step into that arena at least once or twice anyway. That's not really the most difficult aspect of the character. Plus, she seems to be a very physical actress, so I don't think it'll be an issue for her.

I love that film, one of my favourite French films.

It's a lot like Ledger, who had never done a psychotic villain role before, but he had played various aspects of the character in the past that suggested he was up for it. The result was pure magic.

Never thought of that, but looking back at his work you do see the foundations for the Joker were laid.

For the record, her English is fine. It's not her first language, but she is fluent in it. So yes, she screws up a word every now and then, but she knows the language. I've noticed it's better when she's not nervous like at the Oscars/interviews. And since she's playing a character from Wisconsin in Public Enemies, and Michael Mann seemed to think her American accent was up to snuff, and word from the set says the same, I see no reason to think otherwise.

I don't get were people say she can barely speak English, I've heard her, and posted videos of her on here and still baffles me that people can't hear how well she can speak the language, especially for someone who hasn't spoken it for very long. Does she have an accent, yes, but she's obviously doing something right if she's playing Johnny Depps American girlfriend.

[David Rice]

I shoulda said that better, jolie looks more like the typical comic book woman. Kate does look alot like the character though. I still think her acting could be better, but again, ill reserve judgement till ive seen her new work.

Fair enough sir. :cwink:

[David Rice]

David, I understand where you're coming from with the "good acting skills =/= Catwoman" angle. Now, I can't argue with the way Cotillard looks to you, because that's all obviously subjective.

However, I do argue that in Cotillard's previous roles, she has played just about every facet of Selina Kyle: The authority-hating love interest in the Taxi movies, the murderous prostitute femme fatale character in A Very Long Engagement, the feisty-yet-vulnerable restaurant owner in A Good Year, the tough, fearless romantic heroine with a dash of 'crazy' in Love Me if You Dare, and the larger-than-life glamorous showbiz icon in La Vie En Rose (And those are just the ones I've seen). And she played them all extremely well. She's demonstrated FAR more of Selina's qualities than Keri Russell ever did, in Waitress or otherwise, so I think that's an unfair comparison. The only element she hasn't done yet is the blockbuster action element, and most stars eventually step into that arena at least once or twice anyway. That's not really the most difficult aspect of the character. Plus, she seems to be a very physical actress, so I don't think it'll be an issue for her.

It's a lot like Ledger, who had never done a psychotic villain role before, but he had played various aspects of the character in the past that suggested he was up for it. The result was pure magic.

For the record, her English is fine. It's not her first language, but she is fluent in it. So yes, she screws up a word every now and then, but she knows the language. I've noticed it's better when she's not nervous like at the Oscars/interviews. And since she's playing a character from Wisconsin in Public Enemies, and Michael Mann seemed to think her American accent was up to snuff, and word from the set says the same, I see no reason to think otherwise.

I agree with you on Kate Winslet looking like Selina, though, which is one of the reasons she used to by my #1 choice. But there are so many incarnations of Selina, it's hard to base much on that.

We're in total agreement on Theron, too. :)

Impressive, most Impressive. :boba: You get a Boba head, and I don't give those to just anyone.

The only thing I don't agree on is her being fluent in English. If she screws up then I wouldn't say she's fluent. :cwink:

[flickchick85]

Impressive, most Impressive. :boba: You get a Boba head, and I don't give those to just anyone.

The only thing I don't agree on is her being fluent in English. If she screws up then I wouldn't say she's fluent. :cwink:
Fair enough, the Boba head totally makes up for any remaining disagreement. :woot:
In fact, you can be the recipient of the very 1st one I've ever given out: :boba:

[flickchick85]

I love that film, one of my favourite French films.
Oh me too. I've heard it called "Amelie's darker, twisted little sister," but I actually prefer it to Amelie. I find it more enjoyable and re-watchable. Of course, that could be because 2 of my best friends in college, one of whom was my roommate, watched Amelie like once a week for almost a year (AND listened to the score whenever doing homework), so that could explain why it wore a little thin over time. Still, Love Me if You Dare is just plain addictive.

And on a random note: it's kind of funny how hugely significant the song "La Vie En Rose" is in that movie.

I don't get were people say she can barely speak English, I've heard her, and posted videos of her on here and still baffles me that people can't hear how well she can speak the language, especially for someone who hasn't spoken it for very long. Does she have an accent, yes, but she's obviously doing something right if she's playing Johnny Depps American girlfriend.
I feel the same way. To me, someone who barely speaks English is someone who does not have proper (English) sentence structure and has absolutely no grasp of any of our slang or casual ways of speaking. Ken Watanabe comes to mind. Cotillard, while she does have a VERY thick accent, has great sentence structure and a very clear understanding of our slang, along with some cursing in her arsenal, so I think she has a pretty strong grasp on the language.

[Ethermatic]

Though Eva Green is still my first choice, I have come around to Marion Cotillard as well and am adopting her as my second choice. Having done my own little bit of research and whatnot. Ironically, my top two choices are both French.

[Laderlappen]

I think, and no offence, that many people have very little imagination and dont give actors the credit the deserves. Like having to be proved that a person can do an action role to be cast in an action movie. The thing is, if you are a great actor it does take very little to be able to do an action role. It really doesnt take much talent. All it really takes is too look bad-ass and cool. Im sure even somebody like Amy Adams can do it as good as Kate Beckinsale or Angelina Jolie.
Now if we look at Kate Beckinsale for example in Underworld. If we put aside that Catwoman should be an original character, if she would have made about the same performance in the Batman movie, even if the Underworld movies never existed, her performance atleast in my opinion would be a big disapointment.


About Marion's accent, when she was suggested here(I have actually thought about her before) I was also doubtful about her accent. Then I saw some interviews at different award shows before she won the oscar and I understood that she CAN speak english well. She never has any problem with understanding what people says to her. The "problem", and as a foreign person myself I can relate, is that its sometimes difficult to pick the words when you're trying to say something. She speaks with an accent because she's french and there are no reasons why she should speak with an american accent in her interviews. It has been reported that she pulled of a great americana ccent in Public Enemies, but I never she would have any problem pulling it off.

[David Rice]

Fair enough, the Boba head totally makes up for any remaining disagreement. :woot:
In fact, you can be the recipient of the very 1st one I've ever given out: :boba:

Thank you! :woot:

[David Rice]

I think, and no offence, that many people have very little imagination and dont give actors the credit the deserves. Like having to be proved that a person can do an action role to be cast in an action movie. The thing is, if you are a great actor it does take very little to be able to do an action role. It really doesnt take much talent. All it really takes is too look bad-ass and cool. Im sure even somebody like Amy Adams can do it as good as Kate Beckinsale or Angelina Jolie.
Now if we look at Kate Beckinsale for example in Underworld. If we put aside that Catwoman should be an original character, if she would have made about the same performance in the Batman movie, even if the Underworld movies never existed, her performance atleast in my opinion would be a big disapointment.


About Marion's accent, when she was suggested here(I have actually thought about her before) I was also doubtful about her accent. Then I saw some interviews at different award shows before she won the oscar and I understood that she CAN speak english well. She never has any problem with understanding what people says to her. The "problem", and as a foreign person myself I can relate, is that its sometimes difficult to pick the words when you're trying to say something. She speaks with an accent because she's french and there are no reasons why she should speak with an american accent in her interviews. It has been reported that she pulled of a great americana ccent in Public Enemies, but I never she would have any problem pulling it off.

Talk about having very little imagination.

[batboy99]

Impressive, most Impressive. :boba: You get a Boba head, and I don't give those to just anyone.

The only thing I don't agree on is her being fluent in English. If she screws up then I wouldn't say she's fluent. :cwink:
Well, she would have to memerize the line,s so I dont think she would screw those up. Maybe in an actual conversation she would, but not for something she rehersed for, you know what i mean?

[The Batkilt]

I don't understand why so many people think Kate Beckinsale is a poor actress. Especially considering the high praise so many other mediocore to average actresses get these days.

Her performances in Serendipity and Laurel Canyon were really good in my eyes. Her role in The Aviator wasn't exactly huge due to the subject matter but she made a convincing Ava Gardner, which is quite impressive in my eyes. Being able to nail the mannerisms of such a famous person/character is arguably harder than pulling off a fictional character.

She's also shown in films like Underworld and it's sequel, as well as Van Helsing, that she's more than willing to try physical action type roles. In fact, she seems to enjoy it. The only poor thing she did in those films in my opinion was her accent in Van Helsing, which is a minor complaint from me given the nature of the film anyway.

The only performance of hers that I am quite critical of is Pearl Harbour, but I don't think any of the main cast came out of that with any more credibility for their acting chops.

If she were to get the role I'd like to see her put on at least a little more weight as she looks quite skinny now compared to a few years ago, but if she were to get the part I'd certainly have no complaints.

[Laderlappen]

Talk about having very little imagination.Expecting whoever gets cast as Catwoman to make a better performance than Kate Beckinsale in Underworld = Little imagination?

[Laderlappen]

I don't understand why so many people think Kate Beckinsale is a poor actress. Especially considering the high praise so many other mediocore to average actresses get these days.

Her performances in Serendipity and Laurel Canyon were really good in my eyes. Her role in The Aviator wasn't exactly huge due to the subject matter but she made a convincing Ava Gardner, which is quite impressive in my eyes. Being able to nail the mannerisms of such a famous person/character is arguably harder than pulling off a fictional character.

She's also shown in films like Underworld and it's sequel, as well as Van Helsing, that she's more than willing to try physical action type roles. In fact, she seems to enjoy it. The only poor thing she did in those films in my opinion was her accent in Van Helsing, which is a minor complaint from me given the nature of the film anyway.

The only performance of hers that I am quite critical of is Pearl Harbour, but I don't think any of the main cast came out of that with any more credibility for their acting chops.

If she were to get the role I'd like to see her put on at least a little more weight as she looks quite skinny now compared to a few years ago, but if she were to get the part I'd certainly have no complaints.SHe's not a poor actress. She's just average. She's not like Biel, Alba, or Madonna, but she's not like Kate Winslet or Cate Blanchett. She's somewhere in between. She doesnt suck, but she has never really been very impressing either.

[David Rice]

I don't understand why so many people think Kate Beckinsale is a poor actress. Especially considering the high praise so many other mediocore to average actresses get these days.

Her performances in Serendipity and Laurel Canyon were really good in my eyes. Her role in The Aviator wasn't exactly huge due to the subject matter but she made a convincing Ava Gardner, which is quite impressive in my eyes. Being able to nail the mannerisms of such a famous person/character is arguably harder than pulling off a fictional character.

She's also shown in films like Underworld and it's sequel, as well as Van Helsing, that she's more than willing to try physical action type roles. In fact, she seems to enjoy it. The only poor thing she did in those films in my opinion was her accent in Van Helsing, which is a minor complaint from me given the nature of the film anyway.

The only performance of hers that I am quite critical of is Pearl Harbour, but I don't think any of the main cast came out of that with any more credibility for their acting chops.

If she were to get the role I'd like to see her put on at least a little more weight as she looks quite skinny now compared to a few years ago, but if she were to get the part I'd certainly have no complaints.

It's nnly some people here on this board that think that.

Expecting whoever gets cast as Catwoman to make a better performance than Kate Beckinsale in Underworld = Little imagination?

No, I guess that one went over your head.

[The Batkilt]

SHe's not a poor actress. She's just average. She's not like Biel, Alba, or Madonna, but she's not like Kate Winslet or Cate Blanchett. She's somewhere in between. She doesnt suck, but she has never really been very impressing either.

I kind of agree with you, but then part of me does think that unlike Winslet, Blanchett she hasn't taken on too many challenging roles. That itself doesn't exactly help her improve as an actress, and that's the main reason why I wouldn't have her as my pick for the character. Looks wise, she could pull off the alluring nature of both Selina and Catwoman. She has the physical attributes to pull off Catwoman. But the range to hang with the cast Nolan has assembled? I think she has it in her, but at this point in her career I'm not sure she could bring that to the role. If that makes any sense.

[flickchick85]

For me, the problem with Beckinsale is not that she's a poor actress. On the contrary, I think she's a very decent and dependable actress. My problem with her is that for this role, in this series, with this ensemble, I think "decent and dependable" just isn't good enough. To me, she's never been more than decent or good because she never brings anything unique or special to her roles. No spark, no quirks, nothing. She's played every role she's ever had in the same straight-forward, safe way, so I see no reason to think she wouldn't play Catwoman in exactly the same way, which would make the character more bland than I think she should be.

IMO, there are two sides of acting: the mechanical, and the creative. Beckinsale's got the mechanical down: She conveys all the emotions the script calls for, she can cry when needed, all that. But she doesn't seem remotely creative as an actress, which means she wouldn't bring anything new to the role that wasn't on the page. We wouldn't be seeing so much her interpretation of the character as we would her translation of the character, which would result in the character feeling a bit lifeless overall.

I want someone who can come in and bring her own special spark to the character because I think Catwoman needs that if she's gonna avoid being yet another one of Batman's kinda generic love interests.

[The Batkilt]

For me, the problem with Beckinsale is not that she's a poor actress. On the contrary, I think she's a very decent and dependable actress. My problem with her is that for this role, in this series, with this ensemble, I think "decent and dependable" just isn't good enough. To me, she's never been more than decent or good because she never brings anything unique or special to her roles. No spark, no quirks, nothing. She's played every role she's ever had in the same straight-forward, safe way, so I see no reason to think she wouldn't play Catwoman in exactly the same way, which would make the character more bland than I think she should be.

IMO, there are two sides of acting: the mechanical, and the creative. Beckinsale's got the mechanical down: She conveys all the emotions the script calls for, she can cry when needed, all that. But she doesn't seem remotely creative as an actress, which means she wouldn't bring anything new to the role that wasn't on the page. We wouldn't be seeing so much her interpretation of the character as we would her translation of the character, which would result in the character feeling a bit lifeless overall.

I want someone who can come in and bring her own special spark to the character because I think Catwoman needs that if she's gonna avoid being yet another one of Batman's kinda generic love interests.

Totally. I'm convinced she could blossom as an actress and develop the creative side to acting as you mentioned above, but that involves trying things that so far she hasn't tried. I don't even mean going out of the box, but her choice in movies seems to be a very much a play-it-safe, box office hit type that centred more around action and stunts than her as an actress.

Personally I don't want to see Jolie or Theron for the part. I think Theron could nail it, but when I first watched Batman Returns as a child I was mesmerised by Pfeiffer. I know she was famous - very famous - by that point in her career but to me this role has the potential to really launch someone, and due to the direction Nolan's taken with this franchise it can do so critically as well as commercially. Theron doesn't need that.

Jolie's involvement would take away from the film. That and I find her overrated in terms of all the critical acclaim. I can genuinely count on one hand all the films since Girl, Interrupted that I think her performance is truly great.

I'd like Marion Cotillard, Michelle Monaghan or Keri Russell for the role. They're all very talented actresses that can make the role their own, their profile isn't high enough to distract media attention from the film itself, and they're all attractive - certainly no problem in any of them pulling off the alluring appeal of Selina or Catwoman.

[Laderlappen]

No, I guess that one went over your head.Then you must have somehow missunderstood what I said because that was EVERYTHING I said in the part you bolded.

[David Rice]

Then you must have somehow missunderstood what I said because that was EVERYTHING I said in the part you bolded.

You were saying that even if the Underworld movies were never made and she was cast as Catwoman that she would still be terrible. That what I took from the part I bolded.

[Melkay]

For me, the problem with Beckinsale is not that she's a poor actress. On the contrary, I think she's a very decent and dependable actress. My problem with her is that for this role, in this series, with this ensemble, I think "decent and dependable" just isn't good enough. To me, she's never been more than decent or good because she never brings anything unique or special to her roles. No spark, no quirks, nothing. She's played every role she's ever had in the same straight-forward, safe way, so I see no reason to think she wouldn't play Catwoman in exactly the same way, which would make the character more bland than I think she should be.

IMO, there are two sides of acting: the mechanical, and the creative. Beckinsale's got the mechanical down: She conveys all the emotions the script calls for, she can cry when needed, all that. But she doesn't seem remotely creative as an actress, which means she wouldn't bring anything new to the role that wasn't on the page. We wouldn't be seeing so much her interpretation of the character as we would her translation of the character, which would result in the character feeling a bit lifeless overall.

I want someone who can come in and bring her own special spark to the character because I think Catwoman needs that if she's gonna avoid being yet another one of Batman's kinda generic love interests.

Agreed. Now I would like to hear your suggestions... sinces the best arguments I've read in this thread are yours.

Totally. I'm convinced she could blossom as an actress and develop the creative side to acting as you mentioned above, but that involves trying things that so far she hasn't tried. I don't even mean going out of the box, but her choices in movies seems to be a very much a play-it-safe, box office hit type that centred more around action and stunts than her as an actress.

Personally I don't want to see Jolie or Theron for the part. I think Theron could nail it, but when I first watched Batman Returns as a child I was mesmerised by Pfeiffer. I know she was famous - very famous - by that point in her career but to me this role has the potential to really launch someone, and due to the direction Nolan's taken with this franchise it can do so critically as well as commercially. Theron doesn't need that.

Jolie's involvement would take away from the film. That and I find her overrated in terms of all the critical acclaim. I can genuinely count on one hand all the films since Girl, Interrupted that I think her performance is truly great.

I'd like Marion Cotillard, Michelle Monaghan or Keri Russell for the role. They're all very talented actresses that can make the role their own, their profile isn't high enough to distract media attention from the film itself, and they're all attractive - certainly no problem in any of them pulling off the alluring appeal of Selina or Catwoman.

Agreed. Cotillard would be a perfect actress if she could handle the bad english, and I don't believe she can. However, she's one of the best on the list.

Agreed on everything.

With opinions like this I don't even feel the need of expressing my own thoughts... just to bump good opinions like these ones. :woot:

[flickchick85]

Agreed. Now I would like to hear your suggestions... sinces the best arguments I've read in this thread are yours.

Wow, thanks! :woot: Well, Marion Cotillard is definitely my top choice. I do believe she can get the accent under control, since we've heard nothing of the contrary on her latest role in Public Enemies, where it's been confirmed she's playing an American from Wisconsin with a "mid-western" American accent. I think this could make her even better for Catwoman because she could ideally use BOTH accents to improve Selina's disguise.

After Cotillard, I like Rachel Weisz (only after I saw that she clearly ventures outside her comfort zone in the upcoming Brothers Bloom), Charlize Theron (though Batkilt makes an interesting point about her "star status" that I don't entirely disagree with), Michelle Monaghan, and Kate Winslet (who I admit may not be up to the physicality of the role).

[jmc]

Am I going to have to post the same vid of Marion Cotillard speaking English yet again just to prove to people she can speak the language?

[elgato]

yes you will lol

[Melkay]

Wow, thanks! Well, Marion Cotillard is definitely my top choice. I do believe she can get the accent under control, since we've heard nothing of the contrary on her latest role in Public Enemies, where it's been confirmed she's playing an American from Wisconsin with a "mid-western" American accent. I think this could make her even better for Catwoman because she could ideally use BOTH accents to improve Selina's disguise.



After Cotillard, I like Rachel Weisz (only after I saw that she clearly ventures outside her comfort zone in the upcoming Brothers Bloom), Charlize Theron (though Batkilt makes an interesting point about her "star status" that I don't entirely disagree with), Michelle Monaghan, and Kate Winslet (who I admit may not be up to the physicality of the role).



Having seen their latest movies, I don't think that Weisz nor Winslet would be interested in the roles... precisely for the 'star status' we are talking about Theron. They've guaranteed their current status and have inmersed themselves in very demanding and experimental roles that have little to do with a mega-studio-production like this. And no, Winslet is not physically apt for the role, neither is Weisz.



I like Monaghan for the same reasons I liked so much Ledger's casting choice when it was announced.... I can't imagine what she can bring to the role, and I had the same feeling with Ledger. Of course, I can't deny that she hasn't proved the same acting skills of, say... Cotillard, or even Jolie.... but I don't know what she can bring to the role, and she has every possibility to catch me with my guard down. Jolie can't do that... and certainly neither Becksinsale.



She's my top choice, but I'm sure there are plnety of other actresses out there who are as pretty and as unproven as she is... it's just that I still can't think of better option.

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Too bad for y'all there's not gonna be any Catwoman :oldrazz:

[elgato]

how do you even know that?

[Timstuff]

Too bad for y'all there's not gonna be any Catwoman :oldrazz:

http://mmww.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/angry_baby_head.jpg

[Melkay]

Too bad for y'all there's not gonna be any Catwoman :oldrazz:

Oh, finally, someone who ACTUALLY CAN see the Future! PLEASE, ca you tell me the time of your death? I've always wanted to know since I read your mind-blowing post.... just about one minute ago.

[elgato]

Ok, you catwoman not supporters get out of this thread!!!!

[flickchick85]

Having seen their latest movies, I don't think that Weisz nor Winslet would be interested in the roles... precisely for the 'star status' we are talking about Theron. They've guaranteed their current status and have inmersed themselves in very demanding and experimental roles that have little to do with a mega-studio-production like this. And no, Winslet is not physically apt for the role, neither is Weisz.

While I can mostly agree on Winslet there, I really think Weisz might actually be up for it. Her role in the Brothers Bloom looks like one she took because she wanted to have fun. I mean, she looks downright goofy in that. As for the action/physicality, I hate dragging this movie into the discussion AT ALL...but she had quite a lot of ass-kicking to do in The Mummy 2, if I recall correctly. She just strikes me as someone who's not as self-serious as she's been made out to be (though in that aspect, neither is Winslet, which anyone who's seen interviews or Extras with her knows), and I mean that in a good way.

And I agree that Michelle Monaghan's casting would be pretty exciting, because we wouldn't know exactly what to expect from her portrayal, and I'm quite confident she could pull it off beautifully. BUT, she still wouldn't be my 1st choice, mainly because there are aspects of Catwoman that I haven't yet seen her attempt to portray (like a dangerous side, for example).

Also, I just uploaded this vid of Marion Cotillard speaking English in a non-nerve-wracking environment for you guys. Now, before you say anything, YES, she naturally speaks with a very thick French accent. No one in this thread is denying that. This is just to serve as evidence that she does appear to have a very good grasp on the English language, even though it's obviously not her 1st language:

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[Crook]

I'd be utterly shocked if Catwoman isn't in the next film, if there is any. The female spot is completely free and there is no one more fitting to take up that empty space than Selina.

As for Weisz, I generally like her...but not for this. Too old (looking) and I'm not at all interested in her interpretation of this role.

[Ziggyman]

Ehhh...The accent still comes through a bit...But it's alright...It definitely shows though...

She's probably my second pick...To Angie!

[flickchick85]

Ehhh...The accent still comes through a bit...But it's alright...It definitely shows though...

She's probably my second pick...To Angie!
Again, if you read my intro, you'll see that I'm not denying the accent. In fact, I wouldn't say it comes through "a bit," I'd say it comes through "a lot." She's not attempting to hide an accent there. That was just to prove that she has no problem speaking English (constructing sentences, using slang, all that). She KNOWS the language. So it's not like she'd have to learn a language better for the role or anything. She'd just have to learn an accent (which she's already doing for another movie).

[Ziggyman]

...My apologies...For some reason I thought you were talking about "speaking in an English accent"...Upon reading your post again...I see that you were talking about just speaking English...

[flickchick85]

...My apologies...For some reason I thought you were talking about "speaking in an English accent"...Upon reading your post again...I see that you were talking about just speaking English...
Ha, no worries, I misread posts all the time.:yay:

[DieSmiling]

Has Marion Cotillard ever acted in an English speaking movie, and if so, could someone recommend one?

I don't like the choice because I've never seen her in anything and would only be interested in her if I were certain she could play an American convincingly...

For her fans, I also doubt they would cast someone so unknown to American audiences... I'm not saying they'd have to cast Jolie or some mega star, but a French critically acclaimed actress nobody has heard of seems far from the mark...

[Ziggyman]

She's using an American accent for Public Enemies...

[DieSmiling]

She's using an American accent for Public Enemies...

Good to know, I'm looking forward to that film... I love so many involved with it...

[flickchick85]

Has Marion Cotillard ever acted in an English speaking movie, and if so, could someone recommend one?

I don't like the choice because I've never seen her in anything and would only be interested in her if I were certain she could play an American convincingly...

For her fans, I also doubt they would cast someone so unknown to American audiences... I'm not saying they'd have to cast Jolie or some mega star, but a French critically acclaimed actress nobody has heard of seems far from the mark...
Public Enemies will be her first time doing an American accent, but she spoke English with her natural French accent in Big Fish and A Good Year.

And while lots of people don't know who she is right now, more people are discovering her since she won the Oscar/Golden Globe/BAFTA, and after next year, more general audiences will know her, since she's doing two of the most sure-to-be-talked-about American movies of 2009 (Public Enemies and Nine).

Nolan likes his international stars, and she's far from an "unknown" at this point. You win an Oscar, you lose anonymity.

[DieSmiling]

Public Enemies will be her first time doing an American accent, but she spoke English with her natural French accent in Big Fish and A Good Year.

And while lots of people don't know who she is right now, more people are discovering her since she won the Oscar/Golden Globe/BAFTA, and after next year, more general audiences will know her, since she's doing two of the most sure-to-be-talked-about American movies of 2009 (Public Enemies and Nine).

Nolan likes his international stars, and she's far from an "unknown" at this point. You win an Oscar, you lose anonymity.

If you asked 10 Americans on the street who Marion Cotillard was, I'd bet that not a single one would know. It seems her Oscar win is getting her great roles in big American movies, but from a star power perspective she doesn't seem like Batman material... Yet, anyway...

Again, not saying it makes her a bad choice, just makes me question how likely a choice she would be.

[flickchick85]

If you asked 10 Americans on the street who Marion Cotillard was, I'd bet that not a single one would know. It seems her Oscar win is getting her great roles in big American movies, but from a star power perspective she doesn't seem like Batman material... Yet, anyway...

Again, not saying it makes her a bad choice, just makes me question how likely a choice she would be.
Nolan doesn't always go with household names, though. He tends to go with international stars whose talents he admires. I mean, look at Cillian Murphy. Or Ken Watanabe. Even Maggie Gyllenhaal had very little name recognition to the masses, unless it was as "Jake's sister." Very few people I know even had a clue who Aaron Eckhart was, either (even though I was very familiar with him). Anybody who saw or read about the Oscars now knows who Marion Cotillard is (even if it's just as "the French chick who beat Julie Christie"). That's a lot of instant awareness. Not to mention those who enjoy French cinema who have known her for years.

[The Batkilt]

I don't see Rachel Weisz completely turning her nose up at the part. Her CV has always pretty much read that she's taken on a project because it interests her, and the main reason cited for her turning down The Mummy III was she had problems with the script. I don't see that being a problem with the brothers Nolan and David Goyer being involved. So it'd really come down to whether they wanted her for the part, and whether or not she wanted it. And neither seems too far-fetched.

[Laderlappen]

You were saying that even if the Underworld movies were never made and she was cast as Catwoman that she would still be terrible. That what I took from the part I bolded.No I meant that my opinion on Kate in Underworld is that she wasnt at all terrible, but she wasnt that great either. She was nothing special. I meant that if she would play Catwoman and she would make a very simular performance or the quality would be about the same, I would be dissapointed. And I meant that I expect whoever plays Catwoman to be better than Kate was in Underworld.

[Laderlappen]

Marion isnt less famous than any other actor in the movies are before they did Batman. Nolan doesnt seem to care about stardom and why should he? And with Public Enemies and Nine, Im betting she'll be pretty big.

[jmc]

Marion isnt less famous than any other actor in the movies are before they did Batman. Nolan doesnt seem to care about stardom and why should he? And with Public Enemies and Nine, Im betting she'll be pretty big.

Regardless whether or not she was to ever appear in Batman film, I'm confident Marion will become a household name globally in the very near future, I'm going to go so far as to say she could end up being one of the biggest actors ever to come out of France.

[elgato]

Agree jmc

PS Working on anything?

[elgato]

Latest news MARION CAN WEAR LEATHER!!!! :oldrazz:

http://marion-cotillard.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=82

[David Rice]

No I meant that my opinion on Kate in Underworld is that she wasnt at all terrible, but she wasnt that great either. She was nothing special. I meant that if she would play Catwoman and she would make a very simular performance or the quality would be about the same, I would be dissapointed. And I meant that I expect whoever plays Catwoman to be better than Kate was in Underworld.

That makes no sense.

[DieSmiling]

Nolan doesn't always go with household names, though. He tends to go with international stars whose talents he admires. I mean, look at Cillian Murphy. Or Ken Watanabe. Even Maggie Gyllenhaal had very little name recognition to the masses, unless it was as "Jake's sister." Very few people I know even had a clue who Aaron Eckhart was, either (even though I was very familiar with him). Anybody who saw or read about the Oscars now knows who Marion Cotillard is (even if it's just as "the French chick who beat Julie Christie"). That's a lot of instant awareness. Not to mention those who enjoy French cinema who have known her for years.

Marion isnt less famous than any other actor in the movies are before they did Batman. Nolan doesnt seem to care about stardom and why should he? And with Public Enemies and Nine, Im betting she'll be pretty big.

Allow me to preface this by saying that in a year or so, when the role would likely be cast, this could be very different due to her upcoming roles, but...

Casting an iconic character like Catwoman is different though. The second they cast Heath Ledger as the Joker, buzz started... Some people reacted positively, some negatively... But people reacted.

Do you know how people would react to hearing that Marion Cotillard has been cast as Catwoman?

"Who the f is that?"

Aaron Eckhart and Maggie Gylenhaal were also much, much better known at the time of their casting than Marion Cotillard is now.

Ken Wantanbe and Cillian Murphy are better examples, but those are minor characters. They don't get top billing, so they don't need to be known.

But other major characters? Liam Neeson, Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Katie Holmes, Maggie Gyllenhaa, Aaron Eckhart, etc.? Well known to America audiences, for the most part.

[DieSmiling]

That makes no sense.

What's not to get? He thought Beckinsale was average in Underworld and thinks she would probably give a similar performance as Catwoman.

[elgato]

of course people will recognize her, she won an oscar for god's sake!!! they could even put in the tv spots: "academy award winner marion cotillard..."

[Crook]

Allow me to preface this by saying that in a year or so, when the role would likely be cast, this could be very different due to her upcoming roles, but...

Casting an iconic character like Catwoman is different though. The second they cast Heath Ledger as the Joker, buzz started... Some people reacted positively, some negatively... But people reacted.

Do you know how people would react to hearing that Marion Cotillard has been cast as Catwoman?

"Who the f is that?"

Aaron Eckhart and Maggie Gylenhaal were also much, much better known at the time of their casting than Marion Cotillard is now.

Ken Wantanbe and Cillian Murphy are better examples, but those are minor characters. They don't get top billing, so they don't need to be known.

But other major characters? Liam Neeson, Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Katie Holmes, Maggie Gyllenhaa, Aaron Eckhart, etc.? Well known to America audiences, for the most part.
I'm not seeing your point. How exactly does this affect the film? The sequel to the biggest film of the decade and featuring one of the most famous characters in comic books....I don't think they give a damn if they recognize the actress or not. They'll go see it.

[elgato]

Agreed crook

[Carnotaur3]

This just can't be real.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/08/24/cher-set-to-play-catwoman-in-next-batman-movie-115875-20710497/


Cher set to play catwoman in next Batman movie

By Sean Hamilton Showbiz Editor, sundaymirror.co.uk (http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/) 24/08/2008 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/08/24/)
Cher has been lined up to play Catwoman in the next Batman movie (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/#).
The Oscar-winning actress and singer is in talks to star opposite Christian Bale in the third of the "dark" Batman films.
Cher, 62, was invited to join a cast which includes Johnny Depp as The Riddler.
A studio executive revealed: "Cher is Nolan's first choice to play Catwoman. He wants her to portray her like a vamp in her twilight years.
"The new Catwoman will be the absolute opposite of Michelle Pfeiffer and Halle Berry's purring creations."
Shooting on the film, provisionally titled The Caped Crusader, is due to start in Vancouver early next year.
The Dark Knight, this summer's big blockbuster, has been the most successful of the six modern movies (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/#), which started with Tim Burton's Batman in 1989.

[elgato]

That's not real

[Laderlappen]

Allow me to preface this by saying that in a year or so, when the role would likely be cast, this could be very different due to her upcoming roles, but...

Casting an iconic character like Catwoman is different though. The second they cast Heath Ledger as the Joker, buzz started... Some people reacted positively, some negatively... But people reacted.

Do you know how people would react to hearing that Marion Cotillard has been cast as Catwoman?

"Who the f is that?"

Aaron Eckhart and Maggie Gylenhaal were also much, much better known at the time of their casting than Marion Cotillard is now.

Ken Wantanbe and Cillian Murphy are better examples, but those are minor characters. They don't get top billing, so they don't need to be known.

But other major characters? Liam Neeson, Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Katie Holmes, Maggie Gyllenhaa, Aaron Eckhart, etc.? Well known to America audiences, for the most part.People might go "Who the f is that?" But so what if they do? I didnt know who Aaron was when he was cast, but Im really glad that they chose him because I thought he was great. And I dont agree that Aaron or Maggie were better known. I doubt even Bale were that much more famous. But it to me doesnt matter at all.

[DieSmiling]

Guys, LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'm not saying they shouldn't cast her.

I'm saying they won't cast her.

[elgato]

SO WHAT?!! We like her for the role and if she gets cast we will be happy

BTW this thread needs more pics

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii132/hurness0123/OUT944974-1.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/Jacque_FRICKIN_Madril/Dopey/untitled-1.jpg

[DieSmiling]

of course people will recognize her, she won an oscar for god's sake!!! they could even put in the tv spots: "academy award winner marion cotillard..."

Oscar or not, nobody knows who she is.

[DieSmiling]

I'm not seeing your point. How exactly does this affect the film? The sequel to the biggest film of the decade and featuring one of the most famous characters in comic books....I don't think they give a damn if they recognize the actress or not. They'll go see it.

Why was it the biggest film of the decade? A mesmerizing final performance by a popular young actor in an iconic role.

I don't see the studio going for it, that's all I'm saying.

[Laderlappen]

That makes no sense.Its really not that hard to get. Sorry if my messages is a bit confusing because my point isn't.

X = the quality of Kate Beckinsale's performance in Underworld
Y = the quality of the performance by whoever is cast as Catwoman's in Batman3

I expect Y>X
If Y=X --> I'll be dissapointed.

[DieSmiling]

And I dont agree that Aaron or Maggie were better known. I doubt even Bale were that much more famous. But it to me doesnt matter at all.

Well, you're flat our wrong about Eckhart and Maggie. Both were much better known that Cotillard is.

If you're talking about Bale's casting in Begins, you might have a point. He was a risk, and wasn't well known at all circa 2004.

[elgato]

cinema avids know her because she gave one of the most astonishing and imponent female performances of the century, besides, what if nobody knows her? nobody knew aaron eckhart or maggie-indie-film-queen-gylenhaal before TDK!

[DieSmiling]

SO WHAT?!! We like her for the role and if she gets cast we will be happy



What do you mean, so what? In a casting thread the likeliness of casting is obviously an issue to be discussed. That's pretty straight forward, isn't it?

[Laderlappen]

Guys, LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'm not saying they shouldn't cast her.

I'm saying they won't cast her.I understand you. But I dont agree that she's less famous, and I fail to see why it matters.

[elgato]

Ok, let's move to other topic, who do you see getting cast as catwoman?

[DieSmiling]

cinema avids know her because she gave one of the most astonishing and imponent female performances of the century,

Not what we're talking about.

besides, what if nobody knows her? nobody knew aaron eckhart or maggie-indie-film-queen-gylenhaal before TDK!


Disagree strongly. Eckhart and Gylenhaal were much more well known -- far from big stars, I'd agree, but they were recognizable faces.

I don't think people are getting that your average teenage/young adult movie goer has NO IDEA who she is. I don't mean like, "oh, I've seen her in something but I can't remember her name." I'm talking, "never heard that name before, never seen her in a movie" unknown.

This will probably change in the next few years, but that is absolutely the case right now.

[DieSmiling]

Ok, let's move to other topic, who do you see getting cast as catwoman?

I don't know. I think the merit to the Cotillard suggestion is that it's one that wouldn't be expected, which is what I've come to expect from Nolan.

I don't think there is any chance that Jolie or Beckinsale, or any other "obvious" choice gets cast. If I had to guess, it will end up being someone we haven't really talked about at all.

[elgato]

I see someone like Rachel Weisz getting casted

[DieSmiling]

I see someone like Rachel Weisz getting casted

I think that's a distinct possibility.

[David Rice]

What's not to get? He thought Beckinsale was average in Underworld and thinks she would probably give a similar performance as Catwoman.

We were talking about having very little imagination when I comes to an actresses performance. This proves my point.

Its really not that hard to get. Sorry if my messages is a bit confusing because my point isn't.

X = the quality of Kate Beckinsale's performance in Underworld
Y = the quality of the performance by whoever is cast as Catwoman's in Batman3

I expect Y>X
If Y=X --> I'll be dissapointed.

Thank you for proving my point. You have very little imagination. You assume that Kate's performance as Catwoman would be the same as the character in Underworld? Why? Because they're similar? I guess Bale's performance is the same because he's played similar characters before? Ridiculous sir, ridiculous!

[DieSmiling]

I mean, rather than his lack of imagination, it could be Kate Beckinsale's lack of imagination/talent...?

[elgato]

Beckinsale is in my Catwoman Top 10 choices...in number 10, she's not a bad actress she needs to prove herself, i think she's one of the few that look more to selina

[hatebox]

Emily Blunt. Beauty, brains and sass.

[regwec]

hatebox has given the correct answer.

[hatebox]

hatebox has given the correct answer.

Well you very insistent that she not be Louis.

[regwec]

Because she's needed as Catwoman!

[David Rice]

I mean, rather than his lack of imagination, it could be Kate Beckinsale's lack of imagination/talent...?

I don't know so. Maybe he does.

Emily Blunt. Beauty, brains and sass.

Nah.

[dlvillarreal]

Emily Blunt. Beauty, brains and sass.

I like her too.

[DieSmiling]

I like the Emily Blunt idea as well.

[Van Petrol]

I wouldn't mind a few of the names that have been discussed. But I wouldn't like to put all money on any, as I know Nolan will probably pick someone that hasn't been mentioned. He loves to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

[flickchick85]

Regardless whether or not she was to ever appear in Batman film, I'm confident Marion will become a household name globally in the very near future, I'm going to go so far as to say she could end up being one of the biggest actors ever to come out of France.
I think that's a pretty solid prediction. She's got the looks, the talent, and so far, very good taste in choosing her post-Oscar American movie roles (better than lots of previous American Oscar-winners, in fact).

And while I completely disagree with DieSmiling about her being so much less famous than all those others pre-Batman, but there's no way to prove either way, so it's kind of a moot argument.

I for one think she's exactly the kind of casting choice Nolan would make, so I do think it's more than just "wishful thinking." With her Oscar win and her upcoming roles, I think she's probably a big "it girl" to casting directors and studios right now, so she'll definitely be on the list for consideration. Actually, the biggest uncertainty with her casting to me is whether or not SHE would consider it, since I'm not sure how familiar she or her people would be with this series' pedigree vs. other "superhero" series, if that makes any sense.

And Emily Blunt rocks. I just really want to see her as Poison Ivy, so it's hard to root for her to be Catwoman.

[batboy99]

Emily is Ivy, but id love to see her as Selina as well.

Im so glad theres so many emily as ivy supporters now.

[jmc]

Agree jmc

PS Working on anything?

Nothing Batman related, I'm doing some Wonder Woman movie concept designs and some non-comic related artwork as well.

[az824]

Why was it the biggest film of the decade? A mesmerizing final performance by a popular young actor in an iconic role.

I don't see the studio going for it, that's all I'm saying.
Its the biggest film in 11 years and the second biggest ever (screw inflation, theres other factors to a movie's BO)

i agree with batboy that Blunt is more suited for ivy. and i dont find marion that attractive (or at least not to catwoman standards) but she is a great actress and i wouldnt mind her being cast

[batboy99]

Selina isnt suppost to be an uber- hot chick like Ivy or anything. Shes a classic beauty, shes a gorgeous woman. Hot to me is something completely different. I do still think she is hot(both catwoman and marion), but it isnt really the proper term i would use to describe her. Shes more classy.

[DieSmiling]

Its the biggest film in 11 years and the second biggest ever (screw inflation, theres other factors to a movie's BO)

I know... I never refuted that. I just said that Heath's amazing final performance was the reason why it did that well.

And Blunt might be good as Ivy, but I'd bet anything Ivy never shows up in a Nolan film.

[batboy99]

Who cares if she shows up or not. Sure catwoman is more suited for a movie like this, but really, Ivy has the same chance as any other villain(ok, maybe not, but shes not that unrealistic), they can change the character to be more realistic

[hatebox]

I really can't see them having Ivy in the next film.

[batboy99]

Top 3
1.Tied- Eliza(better for TV series though, but shes still my dream choice),Marion Cotillard
2.Rachel Weisz
3. Tied-Im starting to really like her for the role, Billie Piper. Michelle Monaghan

and my others.
Rosario Dawson, The big 3, Eva green.(better for talia though)

[David Rice]

Why was it the biggest film of the decade? A mesmerizing final performance by a popular young actor in an iconic role.

I don't see the studio going for it, that's all I'm saying.

I'd say it's the biggest film in a few decades. There has never been anything quite like The Dark Knight.

I know... I never refuted that. I just said that Heath's amazing final performance was the reason why it did that well.

That's one reason, there are a few.

[flickchick85]

...Titanic?

Not trying to be argumentative, just not sure what your criteria is.

[DieSmiling]

I'd say it's the biggest film in a few decades. There has never been anything quite like The Dark Knight.

It's a big hit, but clearly Titanic was much, much bigger, and if you adjust for inflation there are plenty of movies that compare, including Spider-Man six years ago.

That's one reason, there are a few.

There are many reasons it was a huge blockbuster, but the reason it's shattering records is Heath's performance as the Joker. No doubt.

[batboy99]

Titanic probably is the bigger film.. but TDK is better IMO(and no not just cuz i love batman)

[DieSmiling]

Actually, the biggest uncertainty with her casting to me is whether or not SHE would consider it, since I'm not sure how familiar she or her people would be with this series' pedigree vs. other "superhero" series, if that makes any sense.


I think both sides are a factor.

[David Rice]

...Titanic?

Not trying to be argumentative, just not sure what your criteria is.

I don't really even count Titanic and here's why:

The film never really broke any records other than that highest grossing film of all time. Now that is pretty amazing, but the film was in threaters for 9 months and it was released in December. It made the bulk of it's money durring the Winter and Spring months were it didn't have to contend with anything else.

[flickchick85]

Titanic probably is the bigger film.. but TDK is better IMO(and no not just cuz i love batman)
I think Titanic has suffered an undeserved backlash, and it is a very impressively made picture, but yes, I too prefer TDK. It's just more my kind of movie (I've always loved crime/noir).

Still, Titanic's success was just plain surreal. Not sure we're likely to see anything like that again anytime soon.

ETA: That's true, David, but that makes Titanic's success all the more unique. That it's numbers actually GREW over time, earning them through word-of-mouth and tons of repeat viewers (the whole "Leo-mania" thing) which is almost unheard of. And it did break the record for most Oscar-wins, too, though I realize you probably just mean financial records. But yes, I agree it's a very different scenario than TDK.

[DieSmiling]

I don't really even count Titanic and here's why:

The film never really broke any records other than that highest grossing film of all time. Now that is pretty amazing, but the film was in threaters for 9 months and it was released in December. It made the bulk of it's money durring the Winter and Spring months were it didn't have to contend with anything else.

It was a phenomenon unlike anything else, so acting like it "doesn't count" is one of the more absurd claims I've ever heard.

You act like the fact that it was in theaters for 9 months is something we should be holding against it, rather than something that clearly proves how incredible it was. It was grossing 25 million a weekend six weeks in... That's unheard of...

[elgato]

Agreed ^

[David Rice]

Titanic probably is the bigger film.. but TDK is better IMO(and no not just cuz i love batman)

I'll have to disagree.

It's a big hit, but clearly Titanic was much, much bigger, and if you adjust for inflation there are plenty of movies that compare, including Spider-Man six years ago.

There are many reasons it was a huge blockbuster, but the reason it's shattering records is Heath's performance as the Joker. No doubt.

See, I don't think so and I don't care about inflation. I just don't you use that inflation argument simply because a lot of people these days can't go or won't go to the theater because it too damn exspensive. No film has ever done what TDK has done. No film had ever come this close to Titanic.

See, here again I don't agree. Many people didn't see BB in the theaters becuase BR left them a bad taste. They did see it on DVD however, that helped TDK. Then there were the virals, the buzz about Heath's performace and then his death.

[batboy99]

I think Titanic has suffered an undeserved backlash, and it is a very impressively made picture, but yes, I too prefer TDK. It's just more my kind of movie (I've always loved crime/noir).

Still, Titanic's success was just plain surreal. Not sure we're likely to see anything like that again anytime soon.
i still like titanic, its an amazing film and yes, its success is surreal

[David Rice]

It was a phenomenon unlike anything else, so acting like it "doesn't count" is one of the more absurd claims I've ever heard.

You act like the fact that it was in theaters for 9 months is something we should be holding against it, rather than something that clearly proves how incredible it was. It was grossing 25 million a weekend six weeks in... That's unheard of...

It made a lot money because women and families went to see it 100 times each and because it was based on a real event in history. Which, is also strange considering it has a full nude scene. I wonder how old James got the rating board to sign off on that one.

[DieSmiling]

See, I don't think so and I don't care about inflation. I just don't you use that inflation argument simply because a lot of people these days can't go or won't go to the theater because it too damn exspensive. No film has ever done what TDK has done. No film had ever come this close to Titanic.

So you're saying TDK is bigger than Titanic because no other film has come this close to Titanic? Without inflation Titanic still looms large over TDK... Nothing you're saying here really makes any sense...

See, here again I don't agree. Many people didn't see BB in the theaters becuase BR left them a bad taste. They did see it on DVD however, that helped TDK. Then there were the virals, the buzz about Heath's performace and then his death.

I agree that TDK would have blown BB's box office out of the water based on positive buzz from the first film, but there is no doubt in my mind that Heath's death has put it over the top.

I'd say $350-400 million without Heath's death.

And the viral marketing did nothing. 99.5% of the movie going public had no idea it eve took place.

[DieSmiling]

It made a lot money because women and families went to see it 100 times each and because it was based on a real event in history. Which, is also strange considering it has a full nude scene. I wonder how old James got the rating board to sign off on that one.

So what?

TDK made a lot of money because Heath Ledger died and dorks like me saw it 7 times.

What's the difference? It's all about how many tickets it sold...

[batboy99]

Exactly! DieSmiling, you deserve a cookie....if i had one :(

[David Rice]

So you're saying TDK is bigger than Titanic because no other film has come this close to Titanic? Without inflation Titanic still looms large over TDK... Nothing you're saying here really makes any sense...

I agree that TDK would have blown BB's box office out of the water based on positive buzz from the first film, but there is no doubt in my mind that Heath's death has put it over the top.

I'd say $350-400 million without Heath's death.

And the viral marketing did nothing. 99.5% of the movie going public had no idea it eve took place.

No, that's not what I'm saying. And by the time it finishes TDK will only trail Titanic by about 80 million, that's really not much considering no film has ever grossed anything even close to Titanic numbers.

Ummmm, no the virals did a lot more than you think. So you're saying that without Heath dying it would have only made 350-400? Now that's one of the more absurd claims I'VE ever heard.

So what?

TDK made a lot of money because Heath Ledger died and dorks like me saw it 7 times.

What's the difference? It's all about how many tickets it sold...

No, sorry there was more to it than Heath's death. I know quite a few people what did not and will not see it becuase of his death. When I ask why they give me that stupid crap about how he was in dark place after this role and he died because of this film. Dumb.

[flickchick85]

Steering this somewhat closer to topic...

I know some of us were hoping to see what kind of chemistry Bale and Cotillard had in Public Enemies. Well, I just finished reading the script, and unfortunately, it doesn't look like we'll get much of a chance to see that. VERY MILD SPOILERS: In the draft I read (which seems to be pretty close to the final draft), they barely have a scene together and only exchange like 2 lines. He is kind of rescuing her from a bad situation and physically carries her out, but that's it.

Oh well. It's gonna be a good movie, anyway.

[jmc]

So what?

TDK made a lot of money because Heath Ledger died and dorks like me saw it 7 times.

What's the difference? It's all about how many tickets it sold...

Ah no, a film doesn't make half a billion dollars domestically on the repeat business of fan boys who make up but a fraction of the paying public, it made it because it appealed to new audience and wider audience than what most blockbuster movies do, many people who never normally watch 'superhero' films were drawn to this film. And Ledgers death wasn't the reason people saw it, it was the performance.

[DieSmiling]

Ah no, a film doesn't make half a billion dollars domestically on the repeat business of fan boys who make up but a fraction of the paying public, it made it because it appealed to new audience and wider audience than what most blockbuster movies do, many people who never normally watch 'superhero' films were drawn to this film. And Ledgers death wasn't the reason people saw it, it was the performance.

No, actually a film can ONLY make half a million dollars when people see it more than once. Repeat business is what made Titanic, and what has made TDK.

And obviously the performance was the main draw, but there is no doubt that the tragic final performance of a young star dead too early boosted interest tremendously.

[jmc]

No, actually a film can ONLY make half a million dollars when people see it more than once. Repeat business is what made Titanic, and what has made TDK.

Yes, repeat business from huge audience it attracted, not just fanboys.

And obviously the performance was the main draw, but there is no doubt that the tragic final performance of a young star dead too early boosted interest tremendously.

Of course it did, but it counts for but a fraction of the films earnings.

[Laderlappen]

We were talking about having very little imagination when I comes to an actresses performance. This proves my point.



Thank you for proving my point. You have very little imagination. You assume that Kate's performance as Catwoman would be the same as the character in Underworld? Why? Because they're similar? I guess Bale's performance is the same because he's played similar characters before? Ridiculous sir, ridiculous!Kate Beckinsale is to me an average actress(not bad, not great), and I cant imagine her being better as Catwoman. Maybe a little but not up to my personal expectations. I guess that could qualify as 'lack of imagination'.

But wasnt the reason why you had Underworld as a reaoson for wasnting Kate for Catwoman, because you wanted something simular(not the same but simular)?

[Melkay]

Thank you for proving my point. You have very little imagination. You assume that Kate's performance as Catwoman would be the same as the character in Underworld? Why? Because they're similar? I guess Bale's performance is the same because he's played similar characters before? Ridiculous sir, ridiculous!

Having imagination is one thing and having a fool's hope is another one. We have absolutely nothing to think of Beckinsale as a great actress. Nothing, nada, zero... no material at all. With bale we had American Psycho, we had The Machinist, we had Equilibrium... remember in Equilibrium, when he finds the hidden room full of pieces of arts? Do you remember that's is the first moment when his character cries in the movie? Beckinsale has never interpreted such a moment... she has never took a risk...... Theron, Cotillard and even Jolie have taken such risks... but Bekinsale? Never.

So, yes, we have no reason to think she won't do Catwoman a predictable character. Not like Underworld, but just not good enough.

[thedrizzle59]

i dont know why, but honestly Angelina jolie to me is just perfect for the role. I dont care weather or not shes in it, but shes the only one i can imagine right now as catwoman. she just has that im lean but ill kill you with a sexy look personality. But i also dont want catwoman in the movie at all so whatever i guess.:oldrazz:

[Vanquisher]

Nice list, but I don't want Angelina Jolie to play the Catwoman. I think that she is too obvious a choice and that her presence will outweigh Christian Bale's.

If I had my way, I would choose Olga Kurylenko. Olga is going to be in the new James Bond movie, Quantum of Solace. The girl is beautiful, sexy, and her presence (IMO) won't overshadow Bale's.

Going back to Angelina......

Perhaps the only I could accept Angelina in the role of Catwoman (in a Batman movie) is if she played the character in a separate movie (ala Halle Berry) first. Then come in to the Batman movie, established as a character already familiarized by the audience.

[Hole Shot]

Cher isn't on the ballot?

[flickchick85]

The girl is beautiful, sexy, and her presence (IMO) won't overshadow Bale's.

That's an interesting concern. Mine is the opposite: since we've already had one female lead who never reached any heights above "bland," I'd love a female character in this series who "risks" overshadowing Bruce. I mean, I see Selina as this kind of force of nature character who owns a room the second she walks in it, and Bruce (not Batman) can never get a step ahead of her. Bale is the quiet storm in this series. Always brewing, always still. He naturally has a magnetic presence, and it won't be "overshadowed." But he should be faced with a presence that's so full of life and uninhibited (without losing mystique) compared to him, which is what accounts for the attraction in the first place.

[batboy99]

If olga does a few more projects before BB3 and shes good in them, i would have no problem with her.

[David Rice]

Kate Beckinsale is to me an average actress(not bad, not great), and I cant imagine her being better as Catwoman. Maybe a little but not up to my personal expectations. I guess that could qualify as 'lack of imagination'.

But wasnt the reason why you had Underworld as a reaoson for wasnting Kate for Catwoman, because you wanted something simular(not the same but simular)?

To each has own I guess.

No, I don't really even like the Underworld films, the last time we talked about this I told you that I wanted her for Catwoman since Pearl Harbor.

[DieSmiling]

That's an interesting concern. Mine is the opposite: since we've already had one female lead who never reached any heights above "bland," I'd love a female character in this series who "risks" overshadowing Bruce. I mean, I see Selina as this kind of force of nature character who owns a room the second she walks in it, and Bruce (not Batman) can never get a step ahead of her. Bale is the quiet storm in this series. Always brewing, always still. He naturally has a magnetic presence, and it won't be "overshadowed." But he should be faced with a presence that's so full of life and uninhibited (without losing mystique) compared to him, which is what accounts for the attraction in the first place.

I agree. Nobody was worried that Heath was going to overshadow Bale. I want a Catwoman that tries to steal the show.

[escobar2248]

I would choose Olga Kurylenko. Olga is going to be in the new James Bond movie, Quantum of Solace. The girl is beautiful, sexy, and her presence (IMO) won't overshadow Bale's.

Going back to Angelina......

Perhaps the only I could accept Angelina in the role of Catwoman (in a Batman movie) is if she played the character in a separate movie (ala Halle Berry) first. Then come in to the Batman movie, established as a character already familiarized by the audience.

I can't see Olga being opposite of Bale. I'm going to have to see how she does in Bond. She was good in Hitman, but not impressive.

Whoever Catwoman is, she has to be demanding, dominating and have a VERY strong screen presence. Right now, Angelina Jolie is the only person that I can think of who can dominate on screen time with Bale.

[Mercurius]

Nolan is going with Cher as Catwoman, rumour has it.

[nolan's roll'n]

Nolan is going with Cher as Catwoman, rumour has it.

Link? :whatever:

[flickchick85]

Hmm...I heard it was Donna Summer. I mean, c'mon, Cher's way too old. We need someone youthful with real disco in her heart.

[Mercurius]

Link? :whatever:

I was considering your case with the most dear attention, but I didn't hear the magic word.

You know, these days it really establishes some ground for a nice, wholesome dialogue.

[nolan's roll'n]

I was considering your case with the most dear attention, but I didn't hear the magic word.

You know, these days it really establishes some ground for a nice, wholesome dialogue.

Please?

[Mercurius]

Please?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2612613/Cher-to-play-Catwoman-in-next-Batman-film.html

[regwec]

It's amazing, really, that The Daily Telegraph, the UK's top selling quality broadsheet, apparently has no editorial policy for its website whatsoever.

[Mercurius]

They say anything these days. What a loony bunch.

[nolan's roll'n]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2612613/Cher-to-play-Catwoman-in-next-Batman-film.html

Thanks.

[Mercurius]

Thanks.

You're always welcome.

[regwec]

They say anything these days. What a loony bunch.

It just shows that they make no attempt to check their sources for this kind of thing. It really is shocking.

[Mercurius]

Yep.

And they even throw Mr. Depp in this freaky cauldron as if he had signed a contract.

[Twin723]

LOL Cher!?!? WOW..

[batboy99]

Cher? Why didnt I think of that?! Thats perfect casting! Way better than Cotillard,Jolie,Theron,Dushku,Beckinsale, etc all put together! :wow:
































:p. Seriously, people make up the dumbest rumours

[Ziggyman]

Cher? Why didnt I think of that?! Thats perfect casting! Way better than Cotillard,Jolie,Theron,Dushku,Beckinsale, etc all put together! :wow:
































:p. Seriously, people make up the dumbest rumours

...Oh yes...!

[flickchick85]

I'm less concerned with the people who made up the rumor and far more concerned with the publications dumb enough print it. That's just...sad.

[regwec]

I would actually describe is as "frightening" rather than "sad".

[Van Petrol]

LOL at the Cher rumour. The thing that surprised me the most is that it was being reported by 'The Telegraph' which is a pretty respectable newspaper.

[regwec]

It's quite depressing. It seems that no news source can be bothered to do its job properly.

[flickchick85]

I would actually describe is as "frightening" rather than "sad".
True, true. That's far more accurate.

[jaguarr]

Pffft! Cher would make a better Clayface.

jag

[Mercurius]

Pffft! Cher would make a better Clayface.

jag


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. We have a winner! :woot: You're evil, jaguarr.

[Hole Shot]

Cher? Why didnt I think of that?! Thats perfect casting! Way better than Cotillard,Jolie,Theron,Dushku,Beckinsale, etc all put together! :wow:


If she was a little less haggard, Cher could pull off The Dark Knight Returns' Selina Kyle:wow:

[SuperZer0]

Cher is kinda too old now for Catwoman/Selina.

[The Hurricane]

God, Nolan has sold out big time using Depp and Cher. Im very disapointed he has decided to use these villans too. Looks like no.2 is where it ends again with the batman series.

What are we going to see next Robin?:o:o:o

[SuperZer0]

If you're gonna cast Cher, might as well cast Elizabeth Taylor! Sheesh...

[neemer5]

OK, I hate to admit it, but Cher COULD work. When Liam Neeson was casted as Ras Al Ghul, and when Ledger was casted as Joker, I did a bit of a head twist. Cher is stretching it a lot, but given what Nolan allegedly wants to do with the character, she'd be an excellent choice. She is an Oscar winner, after all.

If Nolan breaks the mold, Cher can do it. There are dozens of ways to do this. For example, Cher could be miss lonely hearts (a-la Hitchcock), and wearing a sleazy cat costume, while getting assaulted on her way home. Done. There's the realism.

[Melkay]

OK, I hate to admit it, but Cher COULD work. When Liam Neeson was casted as Ras Al Ghul, and when Ledger was casted as Joker, I did a bit of a head twist. Cher is stretching it a lot, but given what Nolan allegedly wants to do with the character, she'd be an excellent choice. She is an Oscar winner, after all.

If Nolan breaks the mold, Cher can do it. There are dozens of ways to do this. For example, Cher could be miss lonely hearts (a-la Hitchcock), and wearing a sleazy cat costume, while getting assaulted on her way home. Done. There's the realism.

I... hate... trolls.... so much.

[batboy99]

Lol are you serious?Its obviuosly a joke rumour. And her being an oscar winner mean **** all. Shes in her SIXTIES! I hate this realisim **** too. So her wearing a sleazy outfir and gettnig assaulted is now a more realistic apporoach rather than just makeing catwoman the way she should be?

Im sorry, but your ideas are just horrible.

If you want an older catwoman, might as well cast pfeiffer again, or judd, or Surandon.

[flickchick85]

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1695/mc05finale000ei5.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5553/rachelweisz12pe5.jpg

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/michelle-monaghan/pictures/michelle-monaghan-picture-1.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/celebdatabase/charlizetheron/charlize_theron1_300_400.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/258924~Kate-Beckinsale-Posters.jpg

http://glamourchick.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/angelina_jolie.jpg




OMG, the choice is clear...

http://www.orlandofloridaguide.com/jacksonville/concerts/Cher%201751a2.jpg

Left-field as all of Nolan's best choices are.

[flickchick85]

One more for posterity's sake.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_02/cher1REX1102_468x492.jpg


Ok, I couldn't resist

http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2006/8/cher-mask_4.jpg


Really guys. Cher looks fine for her age. But that age happens to be 62. And people believed this?

[Mercurius]

Well, maybe Bats discovers that Catwoman is in fact his real mother, in a Skywalker kinda way.

[Abadleon]

Well, maybe Bats discovers that Catwoman is in fact his real mother, in a Skywalker kinda way.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I would love that!!!

[flickchick85]

Well, maybe Bats discovers that Catwoman is in fact his real mother, in a Skywalker kinda way.
:lmao: :funny:

Bravo.:applaud

[batboy99]

TBH, i dont think Cher is a bad looking woman, especially in her Sunny and Cher days, but shes in her 60's far from what catwoman should be, i mean, its not a DKR movie.

[David Rice]

God, Nolan has sold out big time using Depp and Cher. Im very disapointed he has decided to use these villans too. Looks like no.2 is where it ends again with the batman series.

What are we going to see next Robin?:o:o:o

Are you being serious? I just can't tell.

[flickchick85]

^I was wondering the same thing.

[David Rice]

OK, I hate to admit it, but Cher COULD work. When Liam Neeson was casted as Ras Al Ghul, and when Ledger was casted as Joker, I did a bit of a head twist. Cher is stretching it a lot, but given what Nolan allegedly wants to do with the character, she'd be an excellent choice. She is an Oscar winner, after all.

If Nolan breaks the mold, Cher can do it. There are dozens of ways to do this. For example, Cher could be miss lonely hearts (a-la Hitchcock), and wearing a sleazy cat costume, while getting assaulted on her way home. Done. There's the realism.

Oh God...

[David Rice]

^I was wondering the same thing.

I know huh? I never know if people like this really believe this crap.

[flickchick85]

^Me neither. And I tend to assume the worst, so that's when I politely skip over and think, "nothing to see here..."

[The Senator]

I personally wouldn't have a problem if Cher was cast. However, I believe this article is a steaming pile of horse **** to put it in polite terms. Johnny Depp has not been officially cast as the Riddler, filming is not scheduled to begin early next year in Vancouver, and the film is not tentatively titled "The Caped Crusader." In fact, those last two items haven't even been mentioned by the MSM until this article was published. So I consider this to be wholeheartedly false and I take it with the smallest grain of salt imaginable.

HOWEVER, If Cher is on Nolan's list, good for her. I believe she is a great actress who would give the role justice. This is not an endorsement of her casting, but I feel she could deliver if she was cast. Besides, I prefer actresses to sex symbols anyway. She is far more qualified a choice than Rose McGowan, Eliza Dushku or Hillary Swank.

[batboy99]

Shes 62!!!!! And no, she is not more qualified than Eliza or Swank. Shes 62!!!

[The Hurricane]

Are you being serious? I just can't tell.

I was serious, I cant believe he has done this. I think he probably got a bit excited knowing he could get Johnny Depp to be in the movie and jumped on it. I think he is forgeting what the new series is all about. Things for burtons batmans went down hill as soon as they were using the current most popular actors to cast like J. Carrey and George clooney. It just seems like its going down the same path as the old series. I think the money has gone to there head a bit in this one. If they stuff this one up it will take away from the previous two films. And Catwomen in a movie is just a bad choice all together. Im probably biast on the hate for Cher as Ive always hated her acting and singing and always thought she was very unatractive. So it might be alright as far as catwomen goes. I would have been pissed if they picked Angelina Jolie or something. It would be just way too hollywood.

One thing I ahve noticed is that the main stars of the films
Chistian Bale
Micael Caine
Cillian Murphy
Heath Ledger

Most of none American actors which I think sort of takes the Hollywood out of the film which I think is a good thing. No offence to Americans

[az824]

ha ha ha ha ha wow this thread gave tears of laughter, keep it coming guys!

[flickchick85]

I was serious, I cant believe he has done this. I think he probably got a bit excited knowing he could get Johnny Depp to be in the movie and jumped on it. I think he is forgeting what the new series is all about. Things for burtons batmans went down hill as soon as they were using the current most popular actors to cast like J. Carrey and George clooney. It just seems like its going down the same path as the old series. I think the money has gone to there head a bit in this one. If they stuff this one up it will take away from the previous two films. And Catwomen in a movie is just a bad choice all together. Im probably biast on the hate for Cher as Ive always hated her acting and singing and always thought she was very unatractive. So it might be alright as far as catwomen goes. I would have been pissed if they picked Angelina Jolie or something. It would be just way too hollywood.

One thing I ahve noticed is that the main stars of the films
Chistian Bale
Micael Caine
Cillian Murphy
Heath Ledger

Most of none American actors which I think sort of takes the Hollywood out of the film which I think is a good thing. No offence to Americans
You realize Nolan hasn't actually cast any of these people, right? These are pure, ridiculous RUMORS. Nothing more. Give the guy a little more credit.

If you weren't being serious, sorry, I can't tell.

[David Rice]

I was serious, I cant believe he has done this. I think he probably got a bit excited knowing he could get Johnny Depp to be in the movie and jumped on it. I think he is forgeting what the new series is all about. Things for burtons batmans went down hill as soon as they were using the current most popular actors to cast like J. Carrey and George clooney. It just seems like its going down the same path as the old series. I think the money has gone to there head a bit in this one. If they stuff this one up it will take away from the previous two films. And Catwomen in a movie is just a bad choice all together. Im probably biast on the hate for Cher as Ive always hated her acting and singing and always thought she was very unatractive. So it might be alright as far as catwomen goes. I would have been pissed if they picked Angelina Jolie or something. It would be just way too hollywood.

One thing I ahve noticed is that the main stars of the films
Chistian Bale
Micael Caine
Cillian Murphy
Heath Ledger

Most of none American actors which I think sort of takes the Hollywood out of the film which I think is a good thing. No offence to Americans

Dude, the story is total garbage. There's no truth to it at all.

[Hole Shot]

Wow. People think the article from the telegraph is credible? I started a whole thread about it because it was so insane.

[The Senator]

Shes 62!!!!! And no, she is not more qualified than Eliza or Swank. Shes 62!!!

Acting talent knows no age limit.

Eliza Dushku is an awful actress, almost on the same level as Katie Holmes. If anyone thinks she's qualified for the role it is purely on looks and looks alone. There is more acting talent in Philip Seymour Hoffman's right thumbnail than there is in Dushku's entire body.

Hillary Swank is overrated. Vastly overrated. The only reason why she has won two Oscars is because she starred in sob stories designed to bait those awards. All of her other roles have been less than stellar, if not total garbage. I doubt she could pull off one of the more dynamic characters in Batman's rogues.

Cher is not anywhere near the top of my list, but she has more acting talent than either of those two could ever hope for.

[Hole Shot]

Hillary Swank was awesome in Million Dollar Baby. And to say Cher is a better actress is absolutely f'ing crazy.

[The Senator]

Hillary Swank was awesome in Million Dollar Baby. And to say Cher is a better actress is absolutely f'ing crazy.

In your opinion.

[Galvanize]

Well, maybe Bats discovers that Catwoman is in fact his real mother, in a Skywalker kinda way.

Seriously LOL, this thread is completely hilarious. I dont know how anyone could possibly believe the Cher rumor. I think she is a good actress but probably just a bit too old to fit with this series.

[Crook]

This thread has disappointed me. :dry:

[piratecop]

old catwoman could mean old batman which would be DARK KNIGHT RETURNS!

they could even have the joker return played by an older actor like daniel day lewis or mark hamill?

cher seems like a decent choice if the rumours are true

[Milkman95]

Sophie Morceau

[DeaDheaD]

Cher :o
http://www.sandiego6.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=ca006e70-de67-48f5-9354-e9e6d1db9f9e&rss=tick

[Mercurius]

Sophie Morceau

Now we're talking. Sophie Marceau, nice suggestion :cwink:

[jaguarr]

Sophie Morceau

The judges would have also accepted Eva Greene.

jag

[jed.exodus.89]

http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/63/07/24/18825643.jpg
jaime murray would make an amazing catwoman. just watch her in dexter.

[jed.exodus.89]

murray much much better than angelina jolie. she aint a gd enough actor 2 pull of catwoman and she would probs do some crap fake accent coz thats all she ever seems 2 do in her movies

[The_Joker7895]

My top choice, not on this poll, is Emily Blunt.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/emily-blunt8.jpg

:woot::up:

[Paradyme]

I hate when these news companies break stupid stories like Cher being Catwoman. I mean really? How? I mean how would that even work?

[SuperZer0]

:hoboj:My top choice, not on this poll, is Emily Blunt.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/emily-blunt8.jpg

:woot::up:

Well hello beautilful! You must be Batman's squeeze! :hoboj:

[SuperZer0]

I hate when these news companies break stupid stories like Cher being Catwoman. I mean really? How? I mean how would that even work?

Yeah, really, Cher as Catwoman, then what's next? Cher's gonna compose the music for the movie?!?! Make me laugh, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!

[Vanquisher]

Just want to throw a couple names out:

- Emmy Rossum

- Anne Hathaway

What say you?

[Armored Avenger]

Emily Blunt is my first choice for Catwoman.

[batboy99]

Acting talent knows no age limit.

Eliza Dushku is an awful actress, almost on the same level as Katie Holmes. If anyone thinks she's qualified for the role it is purely on looks and looks alone. There is more acting talent in Philip Seymour Hoffman's right thumbnail than there is in Dushku's entire body.

Hillary Swank is overrated. Vastly overrated. The only reason why she has won two Oscars is because she starred in sob stories designed to bait those awards. All of her other roles have been less than stellar, if not total garbage. I doubt she could pull off one of the more dynamic characters in Batman's rogues.

Cher is not anywhere near the top of my list, but she has more acting talent than either of those two could ever hope for.
When your that old, yes it does, especially if your playing a character who is supposed to be the same age as the main actor.

Eliza-Wrong, its probably because ive seen almost all her work, shes not that bad, she isnt good enough to be up against this cast, but shes definetly not an awful actress and much better than Holmes. When shes acting, it doesnt look like shes reading it from a script like when holmes is acting.

And Swank is an amazing actress, dont know where you got that idea from...

[Raiden]

Nobody should take the rumor of Cher casting as grandma Catwoman seriously...

[Mercurius]

Now seriously: I don't think Nolan will get any of the eye-candy multiple choice around here. It's quite out of the purpose to his style.

I would venture to say he's gonna go for a deranged one with a talented and edgy actress. A Chloë Sevigny kind of thing, I guess.

I mean, IF he's considering a Catwoman at all. And I suppose he is not, for two reasons: Michelle Pfeiffer's depiction was great, and it hasn't faded yet; and the too recent, pointless and downright stupid CINO.

[Abadleon]

Just want to throw a couple names out:

- Emmy Rossum

- Anne Hathaway

What say you?
NO.

[nolan's roll'n]

^Emily Blunt is my second choice behind Jolie.

[Leenie]

Cher :o
http://www.sandiego6.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=ca006e70-de67-48f5-9354-e9e6d1db9f9e&rss=tick

That is one big WTF.

I'm not against an older actress playing the part (Hell, I think that Michelle Pfeiffer could still pull it off), but CHER? That's just laughable. She annoys me ...

[Van Petrol]

Just want to throw a couple names out:

- Emmy Rossum

- Anne Hathaway

What say you?

I was thinking Anne Hathaway, then I thought nah...

[The Senator]

And Swank is an amazing actress, dont know where you got that idea from...

From watching her movies and determining that most, if not all of her performances, are performed calculatingly so she can win herself an award or a nomination. She has limited range, and I believe that practically any other actress could do just as good or better of a performance as she did, especially in "Boys Don't Cry" and "Million Dollar Baby." There were far better actresses, who actually acted, nominated against her those two years yet because of the 'complexity' of the roles, she netted herself two Oscars. Not a fan of her and her celebrity status at all.

I doubt she could bring anything worthwhile to a future "Batman" film, and I'd rather not see her anywhere near this franchise.

[Crook]

Now seriously: I don't think Nolan will get any of the eye-candy multiple choice around here. It's quite out of the purpose to his style.

I would venture to say he's gonna go for a deranged one with a talented and edgy actress. A Chloë Sevigny kind of thing, I guess.
Nothing wrong with taking in an edgy actress. But I'll be damned if I accept anyone short of beautiful/sexy for this role. That's just ludicrous.

I mean, IF he's considering a Catwoman at all. And I suppose he is not, for two reasons: Michelle Pfeiffer's depiction was great, and it hasn't faded yet; and the too recent, pointless and downright stupid CINO.
1) Jack's Joker was more famous and renowned than Michelle's was, yet there was no problem bringing in a new face

2) CINO and TDK's sequel would have had the same gap B&R/BB had, so that is not at all an issue

[Cunning Stunts]

Cher :o
http://www.sandiego6.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=ca006e70-de67-48f5-9354-e9e6d1db9f9e&rss=tick

I heard about this earlier today too... Angelina seems to be a "front runner" as well, from what that article says. I'd be fine with Angelina, although I think Nolan would go with someone else... But Cher? That "British Source" has GOT to be toying with us.

If Cher drops in, I'm dropping out.

[SuperZer0]

There's not an ounce of truth in those Cher rumors. That same Telegraph article states that they're gonna start filming next year in Vancouver. Yeah riiiiiiiiiiigghhhht. You know what? Nolan is on freakin' vacation!! No script has been written yet, and production will only start at least in 2010.

[Cunning Stunts]

Personally, I'd like to see Rhona Mitra.

[lostman711]

Minka Kelly

[Mercurius]

Nothing wrong with taking in an edgy actress. But I'll be damned if I accept anyone short of beautiful/sexy for this role. That's just ludicrous.


1) Jack's Joker was more famous and renowned than Michelle's was, yet there was no problem bringing in a new face

2) CINO and TDK's sequel would have had the same gap B&R/BB had, so that is not at all an issue


Well, about the sexy part, I don't know. After watching TDK I'm pretty much willing to see anything Nolan would like to experiment.

1) Never liked Nicholson as Joker: too fat and cartoonish. It was a huge success, no doubt, but there were lots of room for a huge improvement.

2) You're right about the time span. But I suppose the Catwoman case is more complicated.

[Crook]

Sexual allure and immense beauty is part of the character. Always has been. If the audience can't buy into Catwoman's looks (i.e. we get another Maggie), then they have completely failed in adapting her.

There are tons of improvements left for the character considering we have yet to see a modern comic-accurate interpretation.

I don't see how CINO is more complicated. Hardly anyone saw that movie and most have already forgotten about it. Catwoman is an essential character to the mythos so it's not like you run any risk of backlash by bringing her into the series.

[Cunning Stunts]

1) Never liked Nicholson as Joker: too fat and cartoonish. It was a huge success, no doubt, but there were lots of room for a huge improvement.

Not only that, but it's too much of Jack Nicholson, and not nearly enough of The Joker... Which is, sadly, the same with just about every other role I've seen him in. He played a good villain, but not a good Joker.

[Mercurius]

Sexual allure and immense beauty is part of the character. Always has been. If the audience can't buy into Catwoman's looks (i.e. we get another Maggie), then they have completely failed in adapting her.

There are tons of improvements left for the character considering we have yet to see a modern comic-accurate interpretation.

I don't see how CINO is more complicated. Hardly anyone saw that movie and most have already forgotten about it. Catwoman is an essential character to the mythos so it's not like you run any risk of backlash by bringing her into the series.


If you mean Gyllenhaal by "Maggie", I disagree. For my part, she was one of the best things and should have been in Batman since Begins.

And it's not only CINO that is complicated, is the whole Catwoman situation. I still find it difficult for a new sexy and alluring one to surpass Pfeiffer. Comic accurate or not. Or even to make it relevant and strong enough after TDK's Joker.

But that's just my opinion, and maybe you're totally right and Nolan will do it. :cwink:

[Crook]

If you mean Gyllenhaal by "Maggie", I disagree. For my part, she was one of the best things and should have been in Batman since Begins.
I'm not referring to her acting (though I don't see what was so special about her limited role). Throughout production she caused a fan ruckus because of her unconventional looks. Even when I was out with friends who are "joe public" they remarked on her appearance.

Now, I know that there are people out there that do like Maggie's looks. My point however is that everyone has to see the next Catwoman as sexy and alluring. It's not enough to please even half the audience. It's gotta be the great majority.

And it's not only CINO that is complicated, is the whole Catwoman situation. I still find it difficult for a new sexy and alluring one to surpass Pfeiffer. Comic accurate or not. Or even to make it relevant and strong enough after TDK's Joker.
Oh, I agree that Pfeiffer is a tough one to top. But regardless, that shouldn't deter Nolan from using the character. She has great potential in this series and it has yet to be realized. Just garner a great performance and things should fall into place from there.

[TheVileOne]

Pfeiffer doesn't matter.

Look what Nolan did with Ledger after Burton and Nicholson. I wasn't even sure if Ledger could top Nicholson.

I think CINO worsens the situation more than anything.

I think though if Nolan were to do Catwoman, he's already proven to successfully revamp two characters that were already used in previous movies. I would love to see the first most faithful take on Catwoman.

You could go in a couple different directions with Catwoman/SELINA KYLE. But I think you basically need her as a parallel character to Batman. Very similar, but she's a thief and she really enjoys it. She's not a malicious criminal or murderer, she doesn't like chaos or mayhem like the Joker. She just likes stealing for the thrill of it, and Batman I imagine is part of that thrill.

Just do something that's totally different than Pfeiffer, and ultimately I think people will accept it.

Ledger's take on Joker was totally different than Nicholson, but both IMHO are still relevant. But Ledger's was better and more faithful :D .

[oosker]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9264/chermeowml0.jpg

[David Rice]

My top choice, not on this poll, is Emily Blunt.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/emily-blunt8.jpg

:woot::up:

Wow! She look different! :woot:

[elgato]

Blunt=Ivy

[flickchick85]

Blunt=Ivy
Bingo. :up:

[Double Down]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9264/chermeowml0.jpg

NOOOO!!!!

[elgato]

If they do a movie based on TDKR she would be my third choice

[Ziggyman]

If they do a movie based on TDKR she would be my third choice

One and two...Who?

[az824]

if there were a TDKR i would choose Pfieffer as Catwoman again ;)

[flickchick85]

if there were a TDKR i would choose Pfieffer as Catwoman again ;)
I would absolutely be for that. Not that they could get her to do again, though. Still, Cher wouldn't even be in my top 10 in that scenario, either.

(For the record, I've never read TDKR, or any of the comics for that matter. I just know Batman's...older in it.)

[az824]

i wouldnt choose Cher either, theres lots of beautiful (something Cher is not) older actress

[Crook]

(For the record, I've never read TDKR, or any of the comics for that matter. I just know Batman's...older in it.)You should try it some time. You know, reading comics. It kinda helps when you're on this message board. :p

[flickchick85]

You should try it some time. You know, reading comics. It kinda helps when you're on this message board. :p
I could see how that might be true... ;)

[batlovescatDC]

Is it just me or does this pic of Scarlett remarkably remind you of Michelle in the ballroom in Batman Returns?

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/movie_pix/oscars/77th_academy_awards_red_carpet_arrivals_photos/scarlett_johansson/oscarsredc3.jpg


http://www.pfeiffer.morrisseydesignstudio.com/images/gallery/movie/92_batman/br19.jpg

[flickchick85]

Is it just me or does this pic of Scarlett remarkably remind you of Michelle in the ballroom in Batman Returns?

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/movie_pix/oscars/77th_academy_awards_red_carpet_arrivals_photos/scarlett_johansson/oscarsredc3.jpg


http://www.pfeiffer.morrisseydesignstudio.com/images/gallery/movie/92_batman/br19.jpg

I can definitely see the similarities. But I think that look worked better for Pfeiffer.

[marukisu]

My top choice, not on this poll, is Emily Blunt.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/emily-blunt8.jpg

:woot::up:

She should have been Rachel instead of Katie or Maggie

[Mercurius]

I'm not referring to her acting (though I don't see what was so special about her limited role). Throughout production she caused a fan ruckus because of her unconventional looks. Even when I was out with friends who are "joe public" they remarked on her appearance.

Now, I know that there are people out there that do like Maggie's looks. My point however is that everyone has to see the next Catwoman as sexy and alluring. It's not enough to please even half the audience. It's gotta be the great majority.


Oh, I agree that Pfeiffer is a tough one to top. But regardless, that shouldn't deter Nolan from using the character. She has great potential in this series and it has yet to be realized. Just garner a great performance and things should fall into place from there.

You need a better class of friends. :woot:

Just kiddin', Crook.

I really see your point, but I don't think that's something that bothers Nolan. I would bet that he loved each scene of the Joker because the Joker deplores the "joe public" kinda behaviour. And the Batman movies give Nolan the opportunity of not observing some rules of comic book adapts.

I liked Gyllenhaal because she brought a distinguished and solid view for the character. Of course one could go and say she lacks in the looks, but she has a mature approach to the character (opposed to the previous lil' gurl one) and she is a seducer. It is in the way she talks and looks at people. By the way, I find her really attractive, it seems a bit limited criticising her beauty.

I don't think that anything would deter Nolan, you are absolutely right. But I think he might consider some other interesting possibilities rather than go the route we imagine.

[Mercurius]

Pfeiffer doesn't matter.

Look what Nolan did with Ledger after Burton and Nicholson. I wasn't even sure if Ledger could top Nicholson.

I think CINO worsens the situation more than anything.

I think though if Nolan were to do Catwoman, he's already proven to successfully revamp two characters that were already used in previous movies. I would love to see the first most faithful take on Catwoman.

You could go in a couple different directions with Catwoman/SELINA KYLE. But I think you basically need her as a parallel character to Batman. Very similar, but she's a thief and she really enjoys it. She's not a malicious criminal or murderer, she doesn't like chaos or mayhem like the Joker. She just likes stealing for the thrill of it, and Batman I imagine is part of that thrill.

Just do something that's totally different than Pfeiffer, and ultimately I think people will accept it.

Ledger's take on Joker was totally different than Nicholson, but both IMHO are still relevant. But Ledger's was better and more faithful :D .


See how things work differently through another point of view: I was never concerned about Nicholson, because I've always thought his portrayal of the Joker a crap.

Fat and cartoonish, full of oneliners to spit out. And ill clothed.

As to Pfeiffer, I'm still to see someone top her acting in Bats 2. And, honestly, I don't think someone will.

And you're totally right: it must be something completely different from Pfeiffer. :cwink:

[Laderlappen]

The people that were complaining about Maggie's looks are morons.

What the heck is CINO?

[Gianakin_]

Catwoman In Name Only.

[batlovescatDC]

Meaning the so-called "Catwoman" piece-of-s*** starring Halle Berry

[Laderlappen]

Aha. Of course.

[Gianakin_]

See how things work differently through another point of view: I was never concerned about Nicholson, because I've always thought his portrayal of the Joker a crap.

Fat and cartoonish, full of oneliners to spit out. And ill clothed.

As to Pfeiffer, I'm still to see someone top her acting in Bats 2. And, honestly, I don't think someone will.

And you're totally right: it must be something completely different from Pfeiffer. :cwink:

What the majority of people said about Nicholson (fantastic, untoppable, etc.) is what I'm saying all the time about Pfeiffer. If Nolan decides to include her in BB3, he's got a LOT of work to do. Certainly more than he had to do with the Joker, in my book.

[WeaponXProject]

I think a surprise, and a good one at that, would be Rhona Mitra. She is breathtakingly gorgeous and she has a bit of Martial Arts in her.

[flickchick85]

Frankly, I'm not worried about comparisons to Pfeiffer because Pfeiffer wasn't playing the Catwoman I know. Don't get me wrong, she acted the part fantastically, but the actual role that was written for her was so far off from what I expect to see from Christopher Nolan that comparisons should die after she's been on screen for 5 minutes. This Catwoman should feel REAL, a feeling that was completely lost in Burton's world, so trying to "outshine" Pfeiffer would be the new actress's 1st mistake, imo.



Oh, and this thread needs more http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8074/mcagoodyear530es2.jpg, dammit!



http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/marion2.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii132/hurness0123/OUT944974-1.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/313/mcagoodyear173yu5.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5230/mcagoodyear213sr0.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3220/mcvf002xx0.jpg


She just SO has Selina eyes to me.

[Dcknight]

A friend of mine explained to me a way to give a pretty good catwoman I think
here it is.

In the third installment he said it would be cool if the two villains for batman would be what he never think he could face off, two woman. (It would kind of a deal for him to fight a woman).
talia - she wants revenge on his father and want to continue his path, and in the league of shadow there's a woman who's an assassin that's is so fast and all so they call her Catwoman.

So talia could be a great Villain for bruce wayne, and catwoman for batman. so now that we don't have any love interest(CAUSE SHE'S DEAD!!! THANK GOD) I think it is a must in movie, so to include two love interest who's his two enemy at the same time would be cool.

[The Batkilt]

Frankly, I'm not worried about comparisons to Pfeiffer because Pfeiffer wasn't playing the Catwoman I know. Don't get me wrong, she acted the part fantastically, but the actual role that was written for her was so far off from what I expect to see from Christopher Nolan that comparisons should die after she's been on screen for 5 minutes. This Catwoman should feel REAL, a feeling that was completely lost in Burton's world, so trying to "outshine" Pfeiffer would be the new actress's 1st mistake, imo.

The thing that messes with my mind the most about her performance is that Annette Benning was originally cast for the part. I just can't picture it. Then again she's permanently Lester Burnham's wife to me....

Some of the original ideas people have for a film involving the character are really quite good, but way off I think. Taking a look at the two films Nolan and crew have done so far, elements of various Batman stories have been taken to create an original story that's true to the Batman and the rogues involved. I think it'll be easier to try to think of who Nolan's Catwoman might be if they use her once Goyer or Jonah give some sort of indication as to what stories are inspiring the third installment. Assuming there is one.

[Mercurius]

Frankly, I'm not worried about comparisons to Pfeiffer because Pfeiffer wasn't playing the Catwoman I know. Don't get me wrong, she acted the part fantastically, but the actual role that was written for her was so far off from what I expect to see from Christopher Nolan that comparisons should die after she's been on screen for 5 minutes. This Catwoman should feel REAL, a feeling that was completely lost in Burton's world, so trying to "outshine" Pfeiffer would be the new actress's 1st mistake, imo.



Oh, and this thread needs more http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8074/mcagoodyear530es2.jpg, dammit!



http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/marion2.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii132/hurness0123/OUT944974-1.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/313/mcagoodyear173yu5.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5230/mcagoodyear213sr0.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3220/mcvf002xx0.jpg


She just SO has Selina eyes to me.


Indeed.

[TheVileOne]

I'm honestly not that crazy about Pfeiffer's Catwoman.

[regwec]

Her Catwoman was memorable, but I didn't care for her Selina Kyle.

[Fitzwilliam]

Eva Green...

Was watching Casino Royale again last night, if that woman can share the screen with James Bond and still be a very strong presence, she can do it with Batman too.

[Melkay]

A friend of mine explained to me a way to give a pretty good catwoman I think
here it is.

In the third installment he said it would be cool if the two villains for batman would be what he never think he could face off, two woman. (It would kind of a deal for him to fight a woman).
talia - she wants revenge on his father and want to continue his path, and in the league of shadow there's a woman who's an assassin that's is so fast and all so they call her Catwoman.

So talia could be a great Villain for bruce wayne, and catwoman for batman. so now that we don't have any love interest(CAUSE SHE'S DEAD!!! THANK GOD) I think it is a must in movie, so to include two love interest who's his two enemy at the same time would be cool.

With friends like those... you know :cwink:

I oppose any way of bringing Talia for the third movie. But I'm ESPECIALLY against this way... Batman battling two women... and he thinks he would never have to do that? Talk about campy, this isn't Schumacherland, this isn't Batgirl fightinh Poison Ivy, nor anything like that.

Do you want a love triangle? I suggest Grey's Anatomy, not Nolan's Batman.

[Abadleon]

A friend of mine explained to me a way to give a pretty good catwoman I think
here it is.

In the third installment he said it would be cool if the two villains for batman would be what he never think he could face off, two woman. (It would kind of a deal for him to fight a woman).
talia - she wants revenge on his father and want to continue his path, and in the league of shadow there's a woman who's an assassin that's is so fast and all so they call her Catwoman.

So talia could be a great Villain for bruce wayne, and catwoman for batman. so now that we don't have any love interest(CAUSE SHE'S DEAD!!! THANK GOD) I think it is a must in movie, so to include two love interest who's his two enemy at the same time would be cool.
I thought something similar;
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15548153&postcount=567

[elgato]

Frankly, I'm not worried about comparisons to Pfeiffer because Pfeiffer wasn't playing the Catwoman I know. Don't get me wrong, she acted the part fantastically, but the actual role that was written for her was so far off from what I expect to see from Christopher Nolan that comparisons should die after she's been on screen for 5 minutes. This Catwoman should feel REAL, a feeling that was completely lost in Burton's world, so trying to "outshine" Pfeiffer would be the new actress's 1st mistake, imo.



Oh, and this thread needs more http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8074/mcagoodyear530es2.jpg, dammit!



http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/marion2.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii132/hurness0123/OUT944974-1.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/313/mcagoodyear173yu5.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5230/mcagoodyear213sr0.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3220/mcvf002xx0.jpg


She just SO has Selina eyes to me.

Oh my god! That's our Selina!!!

[lostman711]

In the last pic she looks like an Olsen

[flickchick85]

In the last pic she looks like an Olsen
Well that's no good. I don't see it, but let's try again.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6/mc1002ad8.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9352/mcmonclown282ts9.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4869/mc03lesamantsd1jour033lz6.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo181/flickchick85/mcAGoodYear_067.jpg?t=1219899857

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo181/flickchick85/mcelle002.jpg?t=1219899374

If that doesn't work, I give up. :cwink:

[The_Joker7895]

Is it just me or does this pic of Scarlett remarkably remind you of Michelle in the ballroom in Batman Returns?

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/movie_pix/oscars/77th_academy_awards_red_carpet_arrivals_photos/scarlett_johansson/oscarsredc3.jpg


http://www.pfeiffer.morrisseydesignstudio.com/images/gallery/movie/92_batman/br19.jpg

I think I would be a suicide risk if they cast that no-talent ****. She needs to stick to blowing Woody Allen for roles. :o

[Laderlappen]

I wouldnt go so far as calling Scarlett a 'no-talent ****'. She was fantastic in Lost In Translation. But when she became famous something happened. Its like she acting skills disappeared.

[Melkay]

Well that's no good. I don't see it, but let's try again.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6/mc1002ad8.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9352/mcmonclown282ts9.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4869/mc03lesamantsd1jour033lz6.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo181/flickchick85/mcAGoodYear_067.jpg?t=1219899857

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo181/flickchick85/mcelle002.jpg?t=1219899374

If that doesn't work, I give up. :cwink:


That's it. Forget Monaghan. Forget Jolie, Beckinsale, Theron... and Cher (and yes, I don't feel bad at all for putting those four together in the same sentence).... even forget Eva Green.

The only Catwoman now is Cotillard. Cotillard only, Cotillard alone. She is now the Crispin Glover and Paul Bettanny of Catwoman at the same time. And she's winning the race, by far.

So, everyone who sees this and regrets having voted already for another actress.... welcome to the Club. We must all burn in hell.

I mean, if that girl can work in a decent american accent (and after seeing La Vie En Rose, I'm sure she can) then SHE has it all down: the looks, the sexyness, the acting chops, the world's recognition and the relative freshness... like Bale was in his day, but without the oscar. She is our Catwoman... not anyone else.

[flickchick85]

^Woot, that's more like it. :up: :D

No more of that Olsen business, people. That's just scary. ;)

[Laderlappen]

That's it. Forget Monaghan. Forget Jolie, Beckinsale, Theron... and Cher (and yes, I don't feel bad at all for putting those four together in the same sentence).... even forget Eva Green.

The only Catwoman now is Cotillard. Cotillard only, Cotillard alone. She is now the Crispin Glover and Paul Bettanny of Catwoman at the same time. And she's winning the race, by far.

So, everyone who sees this and regrets having voted already for another actress.... welcome to the Club. We must all burn in hell.

I mean, if that girl can work in a decent american accent (and after seeing La Vie En Rose, I'm sure she can) then SHE has it all down: the looks, the sexyness, the acting chops, the world's recognition and the relative freshness... like Bale was in his day, but without the oscar. She is our Catwoman... not anyone else.:huh: Eww NO!!!
Everything else is correct :woot:

[batlovescatDC]

I wouldnt go so far as calling Scarlett a 'no-talent ****'. She was fantastic in Lost In Translation. But when she became famous something happened. Its like she acting skills disappeared.

Joker7895, she is not a no-talent ****. And Lader, Lost In Translation is not the only thing she's done wonderfully. There was Ghost World, Girl with a Pearl Earing, The Prestige (working with Nolan, Bale, and Caine. Had great on-screen chemistry with Bale), Match Point, and from what I've seen of her in The Spirit, she's gonna fu**in' rock in that movie.