My Favorite Villain

[Spiderine]

Well, it's over. The end of season one and now we can reflect on every villain portrayed this season. We got plenty of them. Which one do you feel was portrayed the best. Did you like the way they were used in every episode? Which origin did you like the best? Was their fights with Spiderman entertaining enough to stand out above others. Did you like their personalities, motivations, and any changes to them you felt were unique. This is a discussion strictly for villains.

[spida-man]

My favortie villains:
Venom and Green Goblin

[Webhead2006]

I liked green goblin, venom/eddie, and doc ock. As for changes and all that i was first not liking they turned the enforcer's montana into shocker instead of herman S from the comics. But over time it worked for the story they are telling.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Personally, I loved the way they were used in every episode. There was a good amount of changes with some of the Villians, but they defenitely did work great and i had no problem with the changes. My favorite Villians in the show are the Green Goblin and Venom. Also, every fight really blew me away. :up:

[Spiderine]

Personally, I loved the way they were used in every episode. There was a good amount of changes with some of the Villians, but they defenitely did work great and i had no problem with the changes. My favorite Villians in the show are the Green Goblin and Venom. Also, every fight really blew me away. :up:
I agree. It really is hard just to pick one

[Webhead2006]

Hey is the poll just one pick or multi pick?

[Spiderine]

Hey is the poll just one pick or multi pick?
Just one. Maybe Ishould have put multi. I am having a hard time choosing one. LOL.

[Webhead2006]

yea maybe see if u can change it to multi pic and if u do say when its changed.

[Parker1989]

Oh man its so hard to choose and why is black cat on there? She didn't really seem like a villain
anyways I think I'm gonna give my opinion on all of them.

Vulture-Gotta love the scientist who wants revenge and then uses a flight suit to act upon that vengence and he's voice by Freddy Krueger how awesome is that?

Electro-So glad they went with a new look instead of the 616 version now imagine that version without his powers...now imagine him robbing a bank...yeah its pretty funny, but to be honest this look is cool, but it'd be cool if like he learns how to control his powers and so he can revert to being human and we'll have something like the ultimate version.

Lizard-I wouldn't count him as a villain, sure he was gonna try to eat people and stuff, but he's still Curt...he just doesn't have Curt's brain anymore. And that transformation!!! Woohoo have you ever seen that in a cartoon show? I hope we see him again next season.

Shocker-The big change, the one that almost everyone was worried about and how was he? Well besides his texas accent which sometimes sound annoying he's pretty cool and he wasn't my favorite villain but that was a cool battle in the theatre. Now my opinion is they could of had Herman still become Shocker, he could of been with Flint and Alex from the beginning.

Sandman-Last time Sandman was animated from what I know was in the 80s and if he had been animated in the 90s series it wouldn't have been as good as this, and whats great is that they set Flint Marko up in the first episode

Rhino-Like with Flint they've already set up Alex and when he becomes unstoppable he's well...unstoppable, one of the toughest battles Spidey has ever faced.

Green Goblin-Who is the Green Goblin? Well they reveal it to be Harry, but its still a mystery! Was it really Harry? Or was Norman pulling all the strings? And what will happen if he shows up next season? And his portrayal was just brilliant he was really insane, now when I saw the preview for his first episode and he spoke with that irish accent I did laugh, but it worked so well in the show.

Doc Ock-Omg mad scientist with giant tentacles goes crazy and he believes Spider-Man is the cause so what does he do? He starts kicking Spider-Man's butt all over the place, in the comics Doc can pretty much control his arms all the time, but this time he can't do that he needs a battery pack for them, and of course spidey notices this and uses it against him, now its cool to give a villain a weakness and stuff, but sometimes its used over and over again, luckily not with the Doc here, the next time we see him he has Electro charge him up, now is that a permanent charge? most likely.

Chameleon-The Master of Disguise and just like his first comic book appearance he starts impersonation Spider-Man, now he's cool and stuff but it is a little weird that he has a disguise for about everyone I mean he would have to of gone and met everyone studied their faces and stuff and then work on the masks and suits, that is a lot of work.

Tombstone and Hammerhead-An albino who can crush you and a guy with a very thick forehead, both villains are very cool and Tombstone is said to be The Big Man in this series, though that could still be just a trick and Foswell is actually The Big Man we'll just have to wait and see.

Venom-Eddie Brock Jr. He was set up in the beginning and as the show went he was disliking Pete more and more, now add that hatred to the hatred the symbiote has for Spider-Man and Peter and what do you get? Venom!!! The best villain in this show so far, he was literally giving Peter the beat down he thought he deserved, and he tries to harm Gwen, the girl that he cared about and he tries to get her killed. That just proves how much the symbiote messes with his brain!

And I'm done.

[Hurm...]

Where's the GG love? :(

[Sarcastic Fan]

I voted for Green Goblin. But I think most are waiting to see how the character ultimately turns out before really voting for him.

[Anwar]

Well, Venom here was pretty much a villain of the week so I'll go with the Goblin as a "super" villain though Tombstone is a great normal villain.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Where's the GG love? :( I think it's because almost every body (including myself) has more than one favorite Villian in this show.

[Web-Head]

Tombstone. They gave this ultimately unlikeable character a complete revamp raising him from a C - lister (at best) to an A - lister here.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Tombstone. They gave this ultimately unlikeable character a complete revamp raising him from a C - lister (at best) to an A - lister here. I have to agree that Tombstone has been turned into an A-list VIllian, and that's a great thing. :up:

[Anwar]

Yep, they did for him what Batman TAS did for Mr.Freeze and Clayface.

[hpwiz89]

Well after seeing today's episode I have to go with Venom! :sym:

[Jick09]

1-Venom.
2-Rhino
3-Ock
4-Shocker
5-Tombstone

[SalaciousVC]

For the new show,Definitley Gobby and Tombstone

[Webzpinner]

Venom was by far the most vicious, but the one I keep coming back to as being truly awesom writing was the first encounter with the Green Goblin. Everything about that episode SCREAMED perfection.

[CaptainStacy]

Doc Ock! :otto: :up:

[Joker]

Doc Ock all the way. His transition from the mild mannered, geek scientist who was helping to create to super villains, to becoming an evil, ruthless, and arrogant super villain himself was glorious.

He rocked in every scene he was in. Be it beating the living crap out of Spidey. Roughing up Norman Osborn. Looking down on everyone and everything around him. Putting Gwen, MJ, and Liz in jeopardy. Leading the Sinister Six with a firm hand, and taking them to a restaurant for a free meal :woot:

Plus, he had some of the best dialogue ever:

Doc Ock: "This battery still has at least an hour of charge left in it. Imagine all the damage I could do in one hour"

Doc Ock: "Check please"
Waiter: "Uh....it's on the house, sir"
Doc Ock: "How kind of you.....and wise"

Doc Ock: "Yes gentlemen....and Rhino"

Doc Ock: "Rhino, you won the coin toss. Will you crush his skull or simply impale his heart on your horn?"

Doc Ock: "Your new suit interests me, arachnid. I'm going to enjoy peeling it away for further study"

[CaptainCanada]

Best: Green Goblin
Worst: Venom (the only villain on the show who actively makes no sense; their sole mess, but what a mess)

[Sarcastic Fan]

Best: Green Goblin
Worst: Venom (the only villain on the show who actively makes no sense; their sole mess, but what a mess)

Did Venom really make sense in the comics?

While I did enjoy this Venom, I still think he's a character who should never have been created.

Hell, Roger Stern, who came up with the idea that the Black Costume be a living thing recently apologized for it.

[Webhead2006]

Well everyone has their own opionions on things. There is things that were good about SSM eddie/venom and some bad things about SSM eddie/venom. Venom in general is a tricky character and pretty much all versions of him have been good and bad at times.

[Joker]

Did Venom really make sense in the comics?

While I did enjoy this Venom, I still think he's a character who should never have been created.

Hell, Roger Stern, who came up with the idea that the Black Costume be a living thing recently apologized for it.

Really?

Wow, that is bad when the creators start apologizing for it. And Stern is a terrific writer.

[Webhead2006]

Well he probably hates what the symboite was turned into over the past 20 yrs.

[Cmill216]

I'm torn on this one. I thought Doc Ock was outstandingly brash and every bit of the criminal mastermind he's been in the past. But his voice kinda annoyed me. :(

I loved Marko's development. I enjoyed the Green Goblin, though the arc itself was kinda rubbish. And Venom didn't disappoint. Too hard to choose.

[Webhead2006]

YEa it is hard to choose each villain had their good points and each well some..... had some bad points.

[Sarcastic Fan]

Really?

Wow, that is bad when the creators start apologizing for it. And Stern is a terrific writer.

Yup, right here... http://spidermancrawlspace.podomatic.com/entry/eg/2008-06-11T01_59_46-07_00

At one point, he completely trashes Venom.

[Webhead2006]

Yea as i said in my post he probably doesnt like what marvel and other writers did with the black suit/symboite and then all the crap with venom over the years.

[Venom.X]

My favorite villain is Venom...though as far as Spectacular Spider-Man goes, I'm not so sure I can vote for him...this Venom was not that great. if I do vote, I'll probably vote Green Goblin.

I just realized that the whole GG identity crisis thing in this show is similar to the comic book's Hobgoblin identity crisis.

[Sarcastic Fan]

Yea as i said in my post he probably doesnt like what marvel and other writers did with the black suit/symboite and then all the crap with venom over the years.

Stern doesn't like Venom period. He actually takes it farther than most. Most of Venom's critics concede that Venom looks cool. Stern said he thinks Venom looks stupid, and completely trashed the teeth, tongue and everything.

[Webhead2006]

oh ok thanks for filling me in.

[Don Yoyo]

Okay, my favorite villain is certainly Doc Ock : going from a nerdy scientist, shy and easily scared, to the criminal mastermind we all know, that was great! He's got some wonderful lines too. I also really like his side "I may be a criminal, but I'm still a gentleman" :oldrazz:

Well everyone has their own opionions on things. There is things that were good about SSM eddie/venom and some bad things about SSM eddie/venom. Venom in general is a tricky character and pretty much all versions of him have been good and bad at times.

On Venom, I would like to see more before judging. I feel like Nature VS Nurture was just the introduction, with Eddie being so angry that he goes for the easy route, just trying to kill people Peter held dear. There is also the fact that Eddie and the symbiote weren't completely bonded, but now that the symbiote knows that Peter would never let it come back, he will certainly bond completely to Eddie. And this one, seeing how the symbiote betrayed him, could start to be the "dominant" one in the relationship and doing things his way.

And from that point, we have an Eddie who will make sure to make Peter's life a living hell, scaring him, making him worry for the people he loves, and when he is at the edge, strike. Nastily, viciously. I think Eddie will lose his memory of what happened with the symbiote and slowly rebuild something with Peter, just to have the symbiote bonding with him again, and then Eddie will use the fact that he is friend again with Peter to make him doubt, give subtle hints, making sure that Peter isn't sure about the threat...

[Rincewind]

The villains are one of the best things about SSM so far. Everything about them is presented and explained wonderful, really, with almost no exceptions.

Since I have to choose, I'll choose Shocker. I really like how that one turned out. SSM' Shocker is pure badass, the mercenary, who always knows what to do in rough situations. That showed out immensely in "Group Therapy", where he was the most experienced member of the Six (and was almost on a par with Doc Ock as far as cool-headness go) and continued to fight Spidey, even with only one gauntlet left. Of course, he was no match for the symbiote, but that's another topic. The Six will lose much if he goes away in the next incarnation of the group.
And I love his accent. It makes him stand out.

Tho I probably will change my mind a bit in Season 3, when they introduce The Hobgoblin, who is my favorite from the comics. If they don't screw up big time with him (which I doubt), Shocker will become second then.

However, the other villains are excellent as well, and I enjoy watching all of them as well.

[Don Yoyo]

And I love his accent. It makes him stand out.

Love his accent too, but I can't understand a thing he says because of it, especially with the Shocker suit on (what exactly does he tell when he appears beside Rhino and Sandman in Group Therapy???).

[Stevens25]

Venom,without a doubt. I thought the development of Eddie Brock could've been just a bit better,but it was a fine job. However,once Venom was created,that's what really brought it all together. Great job!
Although,Venom is my fav,I think all the villains were great. I don't know if you could call her a villain per say,but I also loved Black Cat.:woot:

[varsas]

This is a difficult decision but I think I have to go for Tombstone. He's an intelligent, experienced and powerful adversary that Spidey still doesn't know how to beat.

[Arcturus]

Is it that time again to vote for my favorite villain? Okay, Venom.

[Gotham]

You know, I chose The Lizard. I really loved how they handled him. :up:

[Ratcrawler]

Mot really a villain but I adored Black Cat.

[Anwar]

Stern doesn't like Venom period. He actually takes it farther than most. Most of Venom's critics concede that Venom looks cool. Stern said he thinks Venom looks stupid, and completely trashed the teeth, tongue and everything.

Thing is, the CONCEPT of Venom isn't bad. I mean an Evil-Spiderman who knows his secrets and can block out the spidersense?

But the execution was terrible. I don't even like the "pregnant woman" idea and I really think Venom should have been Lance Bannon.

[Silver Spider]

I'm sorry to betray Venom right now, but so far, the Green Goblin is probably my favorite villain. Venom, is very close behind though. Personally I think him, and Doc Ock are going to be much better in future seasons. Tombstone was no pushover either, and I liked Shocker because, well, I've always been a Shocker fan. I can't explain how much more I like Electro after I saw this show though. Everyone else was amazing as well.(Even Vulture, who I usualy don't like at all.)

[Venom 1988]

Thing is, the CONCEPT of Venom isn't bad. I mean an Evil-Spiderman who knows his secrets and can block out the spidersense?

But the execution was terrible. I don't even like the "pregnant woman" idea and I really think Venom should have been Lance Bannon.

I agree it should have been him, he would have been a obvious choice to use. However I always did like the Pregnant woman idea. Spidey doesn't really have any big female villians, so if it worked in the end it would have been cool.

[Anwar]

The pregnant woman would've been a good idea for another villain that would've been more temporary (this personal revenge villain type only works for a few stories). If they wanted Venom to be a lasting villain they should've designed him as someone who had more ambition beyond killing Spidey.

[Mario_Galaxy]

Venom on paper sounds great. Spider-Man without the "With great power'' speech,little to no interest in anything else besides totally ****ing with Spider-Man's life,knowing Spider-Man secrets,etc. It's just that when you add in the Lethal Protector crap,he really isn't that evil anymore. He's Spider-Man with bigger teeth. Just leave it at him not wanting to kill everyone.

So yeah,Venom as the chaotic villain is great,Venom as a badass hero not so much.

[Anwar]

Venom the chaotic villain isn't even that good after two stories.

Just look at the Hobgoblin, he was a great villain mainly because he was about more than just killing Spidey.

Venom should have been what if Peter had chosen to use his powers only for himself and no one else. No personal revenge (some maybe but not his main goal) but to use his powers to rob and steal and make his own civilian life better (IE, Lance becomes the expert of taking pictures of Venom and other villains like Peter is of Spidey).

In fact, don't make Venom some fulltime villain but also a guy who has a civilian ID to maintain as well.

[Spiderine]

I always felt like the writers really didn't know what else to to with the character after his initial success thus they came up with the lethal protector angle. His sole purpose was his hatred for Spiderman and wanting to kill him. Then they invented carnage and it sort of watered Venom down. Later they tried to invent new reasons for fueling his hate and reviving his desire to kill Spiderman like Ann Weying's suicide. Then we were back to square one of the Cat and mouse game between the two.

[Joker]

Venom was, and always will be a one trick pony.

The entire basis of the character is he hates Spider-Man because he believes Spidey ruined his life. There's only so many times you can have him try and kill Spider-Man for that before it gets stale. And it got stale after the 80's.

So they came up with a load of shallow gimmicks to try and keep Venom around like Carnage, the anti hero stuff, Toxin, and now they've made up someone called Anti-Venom.

The scraping at the bottom of the barrell is ear piercing.

[Anwar]

They shouldn't have made him a guy who lives only to kill Spidey. Have him be a guy who's out to use the Spider-powers for personal gain and getting back at people he had a grudge against (not just Spidey) and when Spidey becomes involved to "clear his name" he and Venom become enemies.

And make Lance Venom, and DON'T reveal who Venom is for a while. Keep it a mystery like they did with the Green Goblin. And give Venom a civilian ID he's want to keep a secret.

[Spiderine]

They shouldn't have made him a guy who lives only to kill Spidey. Have him be a guy who's out to use the Spider-powers for personal gain and getting back at people he had a grudge against (not just Spidey) and when Spidey becomes involved to "clear his name" he and Venom become enemies.

And make Lance Venom, and DON'T reveal who Venom is for a while. Keep it a mystery like they did with the Green Goblin. And give Venom a civilian ID he's want to keep a secret.
But it's easy to say that in hindsight in regards of what they should have did with him. There could been a lot of great dynamics with the character in who was behind sym and how much more depth this person could have had. Just like you said with Lance Bannon. Venom would have had a classic setup from the get go but I don't really think they knew what they had with Venom when he had his debut in the eighties. Different people came up with the concept and it all just transpired from there when they called for a new villain to debut in Issue 300.

[Silver Spider]

What you guys are saying, is why my favorite story for Venom is always his origin, and his first appearence. I mean his motives are cool, with the out to kill Spider-man thing, but after a while it does get kind of old. Like others have said, he needs something beyond that. The mistake they made in the comics was turning him into an anti-hero. One of the worst motives they could do. I mean I don't want him running around killing people for no reason, because that's what Carnage did. But I don't think Venom should care about the wellfare of civilians.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The mistake they made in the comics was turning him into an anti-hero. One of the worst motives they could do. I mean I don't want him running around killing people for no reason, because that's what Carnage did. But I don't think Venom should care about the wellfare of civilians. Indeed, and the way he was in his first four appearances was fine. I mean, there was some good stories with Anti-Hero Venom, but overall, the Anti-Hero attitude was dissapointing.

[Arcturus]

I already posted and voted in this thread, but for an honorable mentioned, Tombstone has also been done well.

[Mario_Galaxy]

Hopefully they'll do Venom some justice when he comes back soon with the Anti Venom thing.

[Anwar]

I already posted and voted in this thread, but for an honorable mentioned, Tombstone has also been done well.

Not very hard, seeing how Tombstone has a great look and imposing figure. All they really did was put him in the Kingpin's role and you got instant win.

[Webhead2006]

yea i hope venom and this anti venom thing starting soon in the comics will do some good with venom, eddie is due to return as one of the venoms right?

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea i hope venom and this anti venom thing starting soon in the comics will do some good with venom, eddie is due to return as one of the venoms right? Indeed, and his origin series "Venom: Dark Origins" will be arriving around the same time. :up:

[Anwar]

Let's hope the writer can actually give Venom an origin and motivation that makes SENSE.

[Webhead2006]

Yea hopefully something good. Hell i still want to know what is the full 616 spidey altered history. Man i wish marvel would come out with a special one shot title that details from why peter and mj didnt end up getting married to civil war history.

[Spider-ManHero12]

As I have said, one of the things I loved hearing from the interview with Zeb Wells is how we will see Eddie Brocks' parents in "Venom: Dark Origins".

[Anwar]

What'll that add? 616 Eddie's parent backstory is just a ripoff of Harry's parent problems.

[Spider-Man '92]

My favorite villain is probably Electro. He had some awesome fights, and an amazing origin episode. Can't wait to see his next appearance!

P.S - Why aren't The Enforcers on the list? Aren't they technically villains? If Hammerhead is on the list, why not them?

[Spec Spider-Man]

Tombstone & Gobby.

[Farren]

I voted for Ock - I felt like he had the best execution and development - they really gave him the screen time and I thought he had great voice acting.

I was also pleasantly suprised by Rhino and really enjoyed the Lizard as well.

I think I was the most disappointed in GG - not because of the Harry/Norman confusion which I liked, but because the GG didn't come off nearly menacing enough for me.

[Venom75]

I thought all of them were great. Venom is my favorite though,and although she wasn't really a villain,I thought Black Cat was awesome!

[Mr. Joker]

Venom for sure, and then the Green Goblin.

[CaptainCanada]

Did Venom really make sense in the comics?

The concept was fine, though poorly introduced (Eddie Brock being introduced after Venom just doesn't work); his subsequent appearances in the 90s were not handled well. But Other Media versions such the 90s toon and even the 3rd film did much better with him, given the shot to start over. SSM just failed at that, because their Brock didn't make sense; even the initial comics version was better.

[Anwar]

Well, the civilian ID being introduced after the villain/hero ID isn't such a bad thing. I mean the Green Goblin was introduced long before we met Norman and Harry Osborn.

The big problem (IMHO) was Venom's crap motivations, the lack of a secret ID (if he had an ID to maintain it would give more substance to the "Why don't I tell who Peter is?" counter since Peter can just rat out Brock in return) and he ran out of real story steam after his second appearance.

...Huh, that's more than one problem...

[Galvanize]

I would go with Green Goblin. I just thought the way he was portrayed was awesome.

[lt23_spiderman_]

I liked the Green Goblin the most its an awesome cartoon and it keeps me from going insane on how long it will take for spider man 4 to come :D

[Venom 1988]

I just realized I never answered this thread, but out of all the villains I really loved how they handled Rhino in the show. From seeing him a few times as a petty crook, to his transformation and even in the Sinister Six episode he seemed a lot more prominent.

So Rhino gets my vote

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Great choice. :up:

[Grievous]

My favortie villains:
Venom and Green Goblin
same thing for me.

[Demogoblin]

Gobby. :woot: :up: What an evil, manipulative b******. Ock would be higher ranked for me but the voice doesnt seem menacing enough. I love the way he is written (nervous geek to megalomaniac) but his voice seems too gentle.

[Grievous]

Venom is my all time favorite Spidey villian but just out of this show I had to go with Green Goblins, I just loved his look and his character from this series.

[jabbatheridge]

Just going on how he was portrayed in the new animated series and not the comic books, I'd have to go with Sandman. I liked the fact they gave him a bit more of a backstory than the comics and I really liked the design of the character. I thought the character of the Goblin was decent but wasn't fond of the animated design.

[The Flea]

I'm also going to have to give my vote to the Sandman. I've never really appreciated the character until now, they managed to give him some dimension (without him "killing" Uncle Ben) and awesome fight sequences.

My runner up would have to be Venom. He's been one of my all time favorite villains since I was a kid (Hey, he may be shallow, but he looked cool!). I really liked seeing Brock fall deeper and deeper into madness and seeing how the symbiote messed with Peter...combine those and you can't lose!

[TheGreenMeanie]

For me it was GG. I loved his weapons and just his overall insanity. They did a great job with all the Villans in this series so far, although I am not a big Venom fan. I was worried they were going to fast bringing him in, but like everything else in the series it worked out great.

[Neptune]

Dock Ock, Venom, Green Goblin and Black Cat. Although the Black Cat isn't realy a villain.

[Doctor Jones]

Green Goblin was the best! Doc Ock is my favorite Spidey villian, but I was disapointed with his origin episode. So GG gets my vote. Plus, Venom gets too much love. I'm starting to like him less and less. I find Eddie Brock alot more fascinating. I loved Venom/Brock's portrayal alot better in the 90's series. It just made more sense. Spidey humiliated him many times. Peter was always better than Brock at the Bugle, and Black Spidey ruined him. And the Venom episodes were great. I loved him spooking Peter by harassing Mj and talking to Aunt May. And the transformation scene kicked ass! You just see his shadow and hear his voice. And that's enough for me. To me, that's Venom. Whenever I think of Venom, I think of that sound that he makes with his tongue, his voice. I think his reason for revenge on Peter wasn't strong enough. And that whole Brock/Mj thing was so forced. It was just put there to motivate him more. But it didn't help. I still love this show. And it is better than the 90's series. But I never really cared for Brock's oirgin and Venom.

[Venom75]

Every poll I see that asks you to rate your favorite villains(no matter if it's comics,tv or movies)from the Spidey universe it always comes down to Goblin,Venom and Ock. lol
Those guys are unbeatable!:sym::gg::otto:

I wonder,have they ever teamed up in the comics?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Every poll I see that asks you to rate your favorite villains(no matter if it's comics,tv or movies)from the Spidey universe it always comes down to Goblin,Venom and Ock. lol
Those guys are unbeatable!:sym::gg::otto: Amen. :word::up:

[Silver Spider]

I'd rather see a three-way battle between them.

[thejon93]

'Spectcular Spider-Man' did to Venom what very well should have been done in 'Spider-Man 3' with the character. When watching that one episode alone, I personally understood and cared alot more about the character than I did for him in the film itself.

[Jick09]

Every poll I see that asks you to rate your favorite villains(no matter if it's comics,tv or movies)from the Spidey universe it always comes down to Goblin,Venom and Ock. lol
Those guys are unbeatable!:sym::gg::otto:
that's why they are "the big three".

[Spiderine]

that's why they are "the big three".
We all know that. What I would like to know is who all would you rank as being a close 4th in his rogues gallery if you had to choose.

[Abaddon]

Venom was garbage, Ock was cool, Goblin was alright(the change still bugs me a bit), the rest I don't feel strongly enough about.

[American_Hobo]

Sandman all the way

[American_Hobo]

Every poll I see that asks you to rate your favorite villains(no matter if it's comics,tv or movies)from the Spidey universe it always comes down to Goblin,Venom and Ock. lol
Those guys are unbeatable!:sym::gg::otto:

I wonder,have they ever teamed up in the comics?

You know...Venom, Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus always win the populartiy polls.

[Congo Jack]

I liked Vulture's portrayal in this, and they nailed Norman Osbourne.

[Spiderine]

I liked Vulture's portrayal in this, and they nailed Norman Osbourne.
Yeah, Vulture has been pretty cool so far especially in Shear Strength.

[Spiderine]

Every poll I see that asks you to rate your favorite villains(no matter if it's comics,tv or movies)from the Spidey universe it always comes down to Goblin,Venom and Ock. lol
Those guys are unbeatable!:sym::gg::otto:

I wonder,have they ever teamed up in the comics?
They should never team up. They are stand alone villains who are manipulative and cunning. And Venom should always be on his own.

[DarkReflections]

my favorites on the show have to definitely be doc ock, venom, and green goblin.

[American_Hobo]

I really like Sandman in this series.
Well, mainly because he is so much better than in Spiderman 3.
As for my favorite villain Venom, I don't really like him in this series because he seems so rushed into the series.
Hope they dont rush to use Carnage.

[Rincewind]

Venom is much more cunning in the second season, which elevated him in my eyes. Although the problem with the fact that Eddie is presented as a completely helpless tool while the alien is utterly untrustworthy still remains. I wish that they shared a real bond in which they truly and genuinely wanted to be with one another.

From the new guys - Mysterio, Kraven and Tinkerer - I am relatively unimpressed for now. Especially Kraven, I don't like his lion-man look at all.

Rhino is becoming hilarious and its hard not to root for him. After all, he hates Spidey... so much. Ock also became a real threat during the Master Planner Arc. It really elevated him. I can't wait to see more from Shocker and the Green Goblin.

[E.Brock]

Did Venom really make sense in the comics?

While I did enjoy this Venom, I still think he's a character who should never have been created.

Hell, Roger Stern, who came up with the idea that the Black Costume be a living thing recently apologized for it.


he apologized for it because of what it has become and how marvel has completely destroyed the concept. Venom made perfect sense all the while becoming the most popular spider-man villian and arguably one of the most popular, original marvel characters ever created....ive already said more then i should..I have been in too many of these arguments already..so if you have anything to say just save it because im sure ive heard everything you have to say already..The same goes for what I will tell you

[Venom.X]

After seeing Sheer Strength, Doc Ock is at my no.1. When I see more of Venom (I was disappointed a little bit by Eddie/the symbiote/Venom's portrayal in season 1), we'll see if that'll change.

[Joker]

It has to be Doc Ock now more than ever. If I thought he was awesome before, that was only scratching the surface compared to what they've had him do in this season as the Master Planner.

And he still isn't finished yet in this season. He's a major player in the three episode gang war arc they have coming up soon. Just can't keep a good villain down for long.

All hail Doc Ock. A master leader of the Sinister Six, a master genius of his scientific field, a master criminal, a master enemy to Spidey, and a Master Planner :cwink:

:otto:

[E.Brock]

After seeing Sheer Strength, Doc Ock is at my no.1. When I see more of Venom (I was disappointed a little bit by Eddie/the symbiote/Venom's portrayal in season 1), we'll see if that'll change.

hmm interesting choice in avatar haha

[Webhead2006]

yea got to agree ock is the biggest threat for spidey so far in this series besides venom.

[E.Brock]

where can i watch sheer strength???

[Joker]

where can i watch sheer strength???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq4QGktI_4k

[Spider-ManHero12]

All hail Doc Ock. A master leader of the Sinister Six, a master genius of his scientific field, a master criminal, a master enemy to Spidey, and a Master Planner :cwink:

:otto: Hell yeah!

[E.Brock]

is season 2: ep 5 or 6 up yet?

[Venom.X]

No, not anywhere.

[Webhead2006]

they wont be to it airs in canada in the next few weeks. Plus even if u did find a link for a torrent of it from where it is airing ahead of teletoon it would be in another language and would be pointless to watch if u cant understand it.

[Ratcrawler]

Tell that to the legions of W&TXM fans who watched the Brazilian version first lol

I really don't know who my favorite villain on this show is. I voted Black Cat although she's not really a villain, I just find her smoldering hot.

But yeah, Shear strength was exceptionally well written.

This is one of the best portrayals of an evil genius I've ever seen in a Saturday Morning Cartoon. His plot sounded like a condensed yet not dumbed down episode of 24 his interactions with Vulture & Electro were wonderful.

Vulture seems to be developing too. He still wants Osborne dead but it no longer controls his life and he seems pretty happy to shrug it off when it doesn't work and go on to the next adventure; Shooting F-ing lasers from his back! Upgrade!

I remember an interview with CrisPin saying Electro's unstable because of the way his neurons are always stimulated by his power or something. They never really delved into that. He's not as tragic as he was in his first episode but he definitely seems to have adapted to his lot in life. At this point, I wonder if he'd even want a cure?

[carnage899]

1 - Green Goblin
2 - Venom
3 - Doc Ock
4 - Hammerhead
5 - Sandman

[Spiderine]

Tell that to the legions of W&TXM fans who watched the Brazilian version first lol

I really don't know who my favorite villain on this show is. I voted Black Cat although she's not really a villain, I just find her smoldering hot.

But yeah, Shear strength was exceptionally well written.

This is one of the best portrayals of an evil genius I've ever seen in a Saturday Morning Cartoon. His plot sounded like a condensed yet not dumbed down episode of 24 his interactions with Vulture & Electro were wonderful.

Vulture seems to be developing too. He still wants Osborne dead but it no longer controls his life and he seems pretty happy to shrug it off when it doesn't work and go on to the next adventure; Shooting F-ing lasers from his back! Upgrade!

I remember an interview with CrisPin saying Electro's unstable because of the way his neurons are always stimulated by his power or something. They never really delved into that. He's not as tragic as he was in his first episode but he definitely seems to have adapted to his lot in life. At this point, I wonder if he'd even want a cure?
I am really starting to like the way they are using Vulture as well. That was a cold scene between him and Ock. Don't worry we will get Osborn next time as well as Spiderman, that was just great. Two villains sharing a common goal of murder. And this is the Green Goblin we are talking about. LOL

And Electro has now embraced his power instead of wanting to cure it. You also get the feeling Ock may be getting tired of him and his hot headedness. Once again trying to help or take matters in his own hands like with trying to help Vulture and escaping with Tinkerer it turns chaotic. Interesting to see where that goes. I love character development.

[Ratcrawler]

sPoilers ahead but it turns out that

Tinkerer is the Antichrist.

[Spiderine]

sPoilers ahead but it turns out that

Tinkerer is the Antichrist.
Really.....someone should add him to the list then.

[E.Brock]

1) Eddie Brock / Venom (Done to perfection...nuff said)
2) Rhino (Simple and destructive and you can't help but root for him)
3) Sandman (Visually one the most entertaining to watch)
4) Norman Osbourne (Not so much the Green Goblin)

[Doctor Jones]

Green Goblin. Done perfectly for me.
Doc Ock really impressed me in this past episdode.

[Silver Spider]

After seeing Shear Strength, Doc Ock is now at the top of my list, bumping the Green Goblin to 2nd and Venom to 3rd.

Also, an honorable mention to Vulture for just being plain bad@$$ this episode.

[sauronthegreat]

Wait till the Goblin shows up again!

[Webhead2006]

yea i cant wait to see gobby again. And man o man i so hope its revealed that norman had everyone fooled and he is actually the goblin and harry wasnt.

[Spiderine]

And maybe we will find out that was indeed the Chameleon downloading those files at Oscorp.

[VenomsMom]

Why the hell is Lightmaster not on this poll. He is my favorite. Who is responsible for this atrocity.

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea i cant wait to see gobby again. Hell yeah, me, too! :up:

[sauronthegreat]

After what they did with Octopus in this second season I can't imagine the threat the Goblin will be to Spidey in the last episode.
And yes... also can't wait for Chameleon again! It was obvious that he played some part in the Goblin arc in season one.

[Mistah K88]

I want to say Gobby, but after I saw Shear Strength...*holds head* Without flaws...to route awsomeness...it's just too much, TOO MUCH!

[Silver Spider]

After watching "First Steps," I think I can safely say Sandman's gained a few points in my villain rankings.

[Spiderine]

Sandman gained a lot of points with me. Not just as a villain but as a character in general.

[Jick09]

^^Same here. Specially after making that castle for the kid.

[Mistah K88]

...you know, it seems that villain of the week is going to be everyone's fav villain that week until the next episode.

They are doing such a great job with these villains... I cannot wait until Tombstone and Goblin's next appearances.

[Web-Head]

...you know, it seems that villain of the week is going to be everyone's fav villain that week until the next episode.

They are doing such a great job with these villains... I cannot wait until Tombstone and Goblin's next appearances.
Ha! It's true, too.

I can't ever make up my mind over which villain I like more than the others.

[Duskbyday]

Sandman has been the main villain in a couple of episodes now. It's his first recuring appearance in animation ever now, so let him get some spotlight. Sure aint no Dr.Octopus or Green Gobby but he has his moments.

Eddie/Venom: Weeeelll, if more backstory happens he will be better at convincing me why Pete is so bad and deserves to die. So far he seems to have no sympathy nor any character sandman just had.

[Demogoblin]

They've all been handled well. Sandman has been impressive for a fairly obscure character. Besides SM3, how often does Marko show up?

Still gotta love Gobby though. Looking forward to Spidey's reaction when he returns. He wont be happy that Norman went back on his promise that the Goblin will never return.

[sauronthegreat]

Imagine his reaction when he unmasks the Goblin and realizes it was Norman all the time :D

[AIRWOLF]

The best thing about Spider-Man villains is that they are all likable, so its hard to choose which ones I like best. I mean there are some that I don't like such as Rhino, Sandman, Hammerhead, Shocker, and Vulture, but even so I liked them in this cartoon, they are that interesting to watch. I have various reasons for liking the ones I like :P i.e.

I like Goblin for how he messes with Spider-Man and what he'll eventually do to him, he's like a demon inside. His manner of speaking is pretty twisted as well. Venom, as far as this show goes, he's really intimidating to Spidey and can screw around with him with the advantage of blocking his spider-sense, he can put up a good fight and can really be funny at times with his dark sense of humor. Also the fact that he and Pete used to be buddies makes it more interesting when they have a go at each other. Doc Ock, well what else to say, he's Doc Ock! That tiny little man can come off as really initmidating with his four metal arms and has the brains to get what he desires. I like his personality, in this toon though, sort of reminds me of Megatron from Beast Wars which I think was the best Megatron in Transformers.

[Joker]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/DoctorOck/screen-capture-181.png


Doc Ock drinks from an 'Evil Genius' mug. He is AWESOME!!!!

[Ratcrawler]

It might just say "EVIL GENIE". There doesn't seem to be enough room for a "US" on that mug before the word is obstructed by the handle. ^_^

[Doctor Doom]

My favourite villain is not so much Venom as it is the black suit. I think when attached to the Web-Head, it's more dangerous because of it's seducition. Plus, it beat the Sinister Six single handily, it found out all of Spider-man's secrets and could destroy his life worse than any other villain. Brock is an interesting addition, but IMO the suit's strongest scenes are with Parker.

[Duskbyday]

My favourite villain is not so much Venom as it is the black suit. I think when attached to the Web-Head, it's more dangerous because of it's seducition. Plus, it beat the Sinister Six single handily, it found out all of Spider-man's secrets and could destroy his life worse than any other villain. Brock is an interesting addition, but IMO the suit's strongest scenes are with Parker.

I agree with you on the symbiote. It reminds me of Xialoin showdown with jack spicer and wuya. Wuya is the ultimate evil and spicers the extension.

Fav no matter what is Ock.

[Jick09]

Rhino is still my fav, but Venom is outdoing himself. I'll wait for the next episode to make my final judgement.

[Ratcrawler]

Casual observation here, but SSM Rhino is like way sexier than TAS Rhino lol
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1151/xmen.jpg

[Doctor Doom]

I hate the curved horn. But the rest is def. better.

[SpaceWay2009]

Casual observation here, but SSM Rhino is like way sexier than TAS Rhino lol
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1151/xmen.jpgSame here. I prefer TSSM's Rhino.

I don't think TAS's Rhino was ever shown how he was created.

[Spiderine]

Same here. I prefer TSSM's Rhino.

I don't think TAS's Rhino was ever shown how he was created.
They didn't show it. He was just chillin at home all decked out in his Rhino suit when Kingpin called on the phone.

[Ratcrawler]

Yeah, it looked like he had a gross skin condition all over his body except for his face that caused his junk to fall off.

[Doctor Doom]

Speaking of which I thought the 1994's version of the black suit was drawn better. With the exception of the armpit webs. those are awesome.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3199/blacksuitshow20082.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4839/blacksuitshow19942.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9308/blacksuitshow19941.jpg

[Ratcrawler]

I think they're pretty on par with each other considering each show's style. But I got kind of sick of the light reflecting off venom always being blue of the left & red on the right. Teaching kids politics?

[Doctor Doom]

I'm not a fan of either of the shows' Venom looks.

[Duskbyday]

I'm not a fan of either of the shows' Venom looks.

I never understood that in TAS, Venom had red and blue outlines.:huh:

At first the SSM's Venom had a kinda small head but tht wasn't really a problem, he still looked cool. I do prefer Sean's other design of him.

[SpideyTheBest]

1. Green Goblin. Gobby is my favorite Spider-Man villain and probably my favorite of all time and this Goblin was just awesome! The dialouge was great, the voice was fantastic, he was dangerous, so evil it's delicious, crazy and pretty funny. Can't wait to see him back in season 2 hopefully as Norman Osborn.:gg:

2. Doctor Octopus. I wasn't a fan of his voice and I thought "how on earth is that little fat meek gonna become Doctor Octopus???", well, I was blown away. This Doctor Octopus was just is just as awesome as Molina's Ock if not better. The voice is great actually, however, I do prefer some other voice but maybe it needs to grow on me more, I love Doc Ock in this show. And they adapted the Master Planner storyline so this is by far the best version of Ock ever outside the comics! Go Doc Ock!:otto:

3. Sandman. I have always liked Sandman, I always thought that he was pretty intresting but here, they have done such an awesome job with Sandman! Even though he is not one of my favorite villains, he is in this show. I can't say more, I loved him in season 2.

4. Mysterio. He is my favorite villain after Ock and Gobby but I don't know, I mean loved Mysterio in this show but I still think he is not better than Sandman. The voice could get annoying sometimes and well, I have to see more of him but I still loved him. I'm glad I wasn't disappointed!

5. Tombstone. Just like Sandman, there's something that I like about the character. I really liked Tombstone in the comics and even in the 90s cartoon but here. My god, here he is a badass crimeboss! Beats the overused 90s cartoon Kingpin by a mile! Everything, the voice, the dialouge I mean everything! I love this Tombstone!

6. Electro. This was a hard choice but, I really liked Electro in this one but, I wasn't very pleased with him in his first appearance I mean, I didin't want him to seek a cure for the whole series and whining all the time, well, seems like I was wrong, thank god. This is a very different version of Electro, he is still dumb, but completely different from the other versions of him.

7. Venom. Oh my! I really don't like Venom that much and his fanbase makes me hate the character so much, argh thinking about it now makes me so pissed off. However, I didin't like Venom in his first appearance in this show, thought it was you know, can't find a word on it, but it felt like he was treathed like the best and the most awesome on this show. I know it sounds weird but that's what it felt. However, I love Venom in season 2, it's the first time that he actually kicks ass. Now, I hope we will see enough of him after season 2 because if they don't end the symbiote and Brock now, we're gonna get Carnage soon I mean, Cletus Cassidy had a cameo in this show! Help for god sakes!

8. Vulture. Voiced by Robert Englund. What more can I say? I also like his friendship with Doc Ock and their hatred to Norman Osborn. You know what will make a kickass episode? Doc Ock and Vulture and possibly Electro with them vs Norman Osborn as The Green Goblin! That would rock! And I have always liked Vulture, alot. And this is by far the best version of the Vulture! I'm not kidding! I totally love this Vulture!

9. Hammerhead. I like Hammerhead here. Didin't like him that much in the comics but he is great here. Can't wait to see what he will do in the Gang War arc.

10. The Rhino. I'm suprised myself here. I always thought that Rhino was overrated and a lousy and stupid villain. But here, well, he is good I guess but not too good. I still don't like him THAT much. But he is better than the other villains I'm going to list now.

11. Shocker. Meh, I don't like Montana being the Shocker and I'm not a big fan of the character either but he was OK in this show. I still love the 90s version of the Shocker even though he was so wasted.

12. Lizard. Meh, the only thing I found interesting with the Lizard is that whenever Connors is stressed or nervous, there's trouble for Spidey. But Lizard is just a mindless beast, well he's not always been that but how stupid and corny would it be if he was a mastermind and talking? It worked in the 60s but really, he is just a mindless beast nowadays. I loved the fight between Spidey and the Lizard in the subway but that's all of it. Lizard is not that interesting to me.

13. Kraven. Just like Vulture and Sandman, I have always liked Kraven. Mostly because he belongs to the classic characters and I was really looking forward to see Kraven in this show. It started off well, the voice, the story but then they transformed him into a, Lion Man? I don't read the Ultimate comics, I know almost nothing about them and I heard that this is the Ultimate version of Kraven, mixtured with classic Kraven. But I still don't like him being this way. Ok if Montana is the Shocker, ok if Liz Allan is hispanic and ok to the other race changes but here, no. It's like they turned Kraven into Puma. That's what I liked about Kraven. He hunts animals, he's not suppoused to become one. Disappointing. And I don't see the point of him changing back to human again. But I wont whine over this, it wont help either. And he looked kinda silly as an animal too.

Sorry about grammar and spelling.

[Ratcrawler]

All fair points, Best.

[SpaceWay2009]

Speaking of which I thought the 1994's version of the black suit was drawn better. With the exception of the armpit webs. those are awesome.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3199/blacksuitshow20082.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4839/blacksuitshow19942.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9308/blacksuitshow19941.jpgThe 90's version of Black Spider-Man looks exactly like the comics.

I still prefer TSSM's Black Spider-Man, though.

[cryptic name]

13. Kraven. Just like Vulture and Sandman, I have always liked Kraven. Mostly because he belongs to the classic characters and I was really looking forward to see Kraven in this show. It started off well, the voice, the story but then they transformed him into a, Lion Man? I don't read the Ultimate comics, I know almost nothing about them and I heard that this is the Ultimate version of Kraven, mixtured with classic Kraven. But I still don't like him being this way. Ok if Montana is the Shocker, ok if Liz Allan is hispanic and ok to the other race changes but here, no. It's like they turned Kraven into Puma. That's what I liked about Kraven. He hunts animals, he's not suppoused to become one. Disappointing. And I don't see the point of him changing back to human again. But I wont whine over this, it wont help either. And he looked kinda silly as an animal too.

Sorry about grammar and spelling.

i'm pretty sure ultimate kraven was just a regular guy who hosted a reality tv show where he hunted things and spidey k.o.'d him with one punch.

[Demogoblin]

i'm pretty sure ultimate kraven was just a regular guy who hosted a reality tv show where he hunted things and spidey k.o.'d him with one punch.

Until he underwent gene therapy, but he was still treated as a joke. Thanks a lot, Bendis. :cmad: Show a little more favoritism, why dontcha?!

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/DoctorOck/screen-capture-181.png


Doc Ock drinks from an 'Evil Genius' mug. He is AWESOME!!!!
I want one.

My favourite villain is not so much Venom as it is the black suit. I think when attached to the Web-Head, it's more dangerous because of it's seducition. Plus, it beat the Sinister Six single handily, it found out all of Spider-man's secrets and could destroy his life worse than any other villain. Brock is an interesting addition, but IMO the suit's strongest scenes are with Parker.
Thats something I noticed about Venom: the man (Eddie Brock) doesnt seem as important as the powers (the symbiote). Thats a little strange to me.

Casual observation here, but SSM Rhino is like way sexier than TAS Rhino lol
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1151/xmen.jpg

...

Rhino is sexy?



6. Electro. This was a hard choice but, I really liked Electro in this one but, I wasn't very pleased with him in his first appearance I mean, I didin't want him to seek a cure for the whole series and whining all the time, well, seems like I was wrong, thank god. This is a very different version of Electro, he is still dumb, but completely different from the other versions of him.

I wouldnt say Electro is dumb. I think his emotional instability is more a side effect of his electrical powers interfering with the electrical impulses in his brain. He's fairly calm most of the time, its just when he gets angry or uses his powers that he gets careless. Using his powers = emotional instability, imo.

[spiderman_rj]

My favorites are
1. Shocker, always liked the character and here they gave him a nice personality
2.Rhino, cos he just looks cool
3. Sandman, cos his fight scenes are good.
4. Norman, the guy is a evil genius, doc ock mug was stolen from him :P

[Demogoblin]

My favorites are
1. Shocker, always liked the character and here they gave him a nice personality
2.Rhino, cos he just looks cool
3. Sandman, cos his fight scenes are good.
4. Norman, the guy is a evil genius, doc ock mug was stolen from him :P

I like this kid. :woot:

[VenomRules153]

my top 3 favs from this show so far are
1.:sym:Venom-im a huge Venom fan(my username lolz),and hes the only villian tht we know of tht has the info to totally ruin petes life.
2.:gg:Green Goblin-hes insane nuff said.
3.:otto:Doctor Octopus-is actually a total badass in this show and not a cheesy fat guy like in TAS.

[Mike059jig]

Rhino?? seriously??...any way Venom, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman are my favorites

[SpaceWay2009]

In this show, Green Goblin, Venom, and Tombstone are my favorites. Speaking of Tombstone, I want to see him sometime in season two.

[Rincewind]

Rhino?? seriously??
Why not? He's awesome in this show.

[Venom 1988]

Why not? He's awesome in this show.

Agreed :hyper:

[Ratcrawler]

He's also pretty bright here. Not a strategist or anything but street smart.

[VenomRules153]

yea but if he had to make a hard decision hes screwed lolz

[Duskbyday]

I'm curious. How does Ock hold those goggles on his eyes?

[Venom 1988]

I'm curious. How does Ock hold those goggles on his eyes?

Same way as other characters with glasses. They just stick on there on their face. Artistic choice really

[Spider-ManHero12]

Agreed :hyper: Indeed. :word:

[Ratcrawler]

Same way as other characters with glasses. They just stick on there on their face. Artistic choice really

You mean like how OHirn & Brock's anatomy would have the be greatly readjusted to fit in those enormous costumes?

[Jick09]

Rhino?? seriously??...any way Venom, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman are my favorites
Rhino is one of the best for me, if not the best.

[Reikowolf]

GG all the way.

Although I have to admit that they have done a good overall job with all the villains thus far. Even to the point of doing their original origins and first defeats.

Rhino is my favourite for that but the Goblin has me intrigued as they are taking a cool twist with him and really building the potential for the "Night Gwen Stacey Died" arc.

I wonder if they will also be doing Capt. Stacey's death at the hands of Ock?

[Reikowolf]

On a side note, I really like their version of Venom. The black suit arc was well done and the character is definitely beefed up due to the fusion of the comic/TAS/Ultimate versions of the character.

unfortunatley having lived through the Venom overkill in marvel comics during the 90's, i'm still really hesitant about the character.