Official 2008-09 NBA Thread

[Go Web Go!]

For the love of God, Raiden! It's BYNUM!

[Mister J]

Jameer Nelson has a torn labrum, along with the dislocated shoulder. He's listed as being out indefinitely.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, that's too bad. He should learn a thing or 2 from Wade's injury & not try to rush back. Opt for surgery & come back at full-strength next season. Don't tough it out, make it worse, have off-season surgery, and sit out part of next season trying to get yourself right.

[gogetter0587]

Chris Paul, Bynum, Nelson, bad week in the NBA for injuries

[Raiden]

For the love of God, Raiden! It's BYNUM!

LOL, I don't think I can ever type Bynum's name correctly. :funny:

[Go Web Go!]

LOL, I don't think I can ever type Bynum's name correctly. :funny:

Better start...or else. :cmad:

[Raiden]

Better start...or else. :cmad:

:oldrazz:

[Excel]

Rays 3 is sooo $$$

[Ziggyman]

Just read that old street game of H-O-R-S-E has been added to the All-Star festivities...!

[Mister J]

They've kicked that around for a few years now. I can't say that I'm not interested to see how it turns out.

Cavs push to a ridiculous 23-0 at home; J. O'Neal with 20/8 in the loss. That last part makes me all giddy ...potentially.

[Ziggyman]

They've kicked that around for a few years now. I can't say that I'm not interested to see how it turns out.

Cavs push to a ridiculous 23-0 at home; J. O'Neal with 20/8 in the loss. That last part makes me all giddy ...potentially.

Why did you have to bring up the Raps losing man...C'mon!

Rumours have died down a bit up here...But I don't know where my friend heard this...But he said that rumours have just recently been flying that a Bosh for Amare deal could end up happening...It's a long shot...But in the big picture...

Bosh for Amare
O'neal for Marion
Nash in '10

Colangelo back to his old tricks...?

[Mister J]

I got too caught up in my ESPN Trade Machine endeavors, Zig. Forgive my overzealousness. If not for the solid game from #6, no mention would have been made at all. So ...in a way, this is really his fault. :ninja:

I've heard the Amare stuff too. Out of all the 'out there' trade scenarios, I'd probably give that one the most credence. He clearly is not enjoying the run in Phoenix anymore and there's no way I see him staying in 2010. I think he definitely gets moved. It's just a matter of before this trade deadline or next year's.

From what I'm hearing/expecting, he'll have to fight off D'Antoni for it. :funny:

[Ziggyman]

Hahaha...When everyone leaves Phoenix...Shaq will be like...WTF!!!

Why did I come here?!?!?!

Then he comes to Toronto.:ninja:

[Trainwreck2100]

Just read that old street game of H-O-R-S-E has been added to the All-Star festivities...!

It used to be in the ASG if you go to youtube there's some old videos of pistol pete doing it

Also did anybody else hear that Wallace has to take a bus home cause of his lung damage, that's a long bus ride

[Mister J]

I suppose there's something with the relation of cabinized air pressure and his lung issue, but could they not hook the man up with a train somewhere between Los Angeles and Charlotte?

[Ziggyman]

It used to be in the ASG if you go to youtube there's some old videos of pistol pete doing it

Also did anybody else hear that Wallace has to take a bus home cause of his lung damage, that's a long bus ride

Bus...Seriously...

Was this after the Raptors game?

[Trainwreck2100]

Bus...Seriously...

Was this after the Raptors game?

No from LA, he cant be on a plane at all

[Go Web Go!]

Also did anybody else hear that Wallace has to take a bus home cause of his lung damage, that's a long bus ride

20 or so hours to be exact :csad:

[Dr. Evil]

Interesting fact:

- NBA Inside Stuff host Ahmad Rashad was a former NFL player with the Vikings and Seahawks.

[LastSunrise1981]

Just read that old street game of H-O-R-S-E has been added to the All-Star festivities...!

That's awesome. I love the idea as I'm a sucker for the old school games that I watched when NBA TV showcased them. Some of my favorites were when Pistol Pete was involved.

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[LastSunrise1981]

20 or so hours to be exact :csad:

Maybe it's me, but shouldn't Bynum have been suspended for that though? If that was Dirk, Sheed, Artest, or even Duncan they would've flat out suspended them without hesitation.

Sucks what happened to Wallace. Has there been any word on how long he's going to be out?

[Lobo]

Horse is back in the ASG? Awesome :up:

[Trainwreck2100]

Maybe it's me, but shouldn't Bynum have been suspended for that though? If that was Dirk, Sheed, Artest, or even Duncan they would've flat out suspended them without hesitation.

Sucks what happened to Wallace. Has there been any word on how long he's going to be out?

Ironically if he was suspended for 2 games, he wouldn't have gotten injured.

[Go Web Go!]

Horse is back in the ASG? Awesome :up:

All these little jerkoff analysts have ripped the idea up to this point. I'm looking forward to it. :o

[Lobo]

Screw them.

Who's in the dunk contest this year? I know Nate, and I think Dwight again, but who else?

[Ziggyman]

Screw them.

Who's in the dunk contest this year? I know Nate, and I think Dwight again, but who else?
Those two...and Rudy Gay and Rudy Fernandez...

I think my boy Kapono has good shot at 3-peating against Danny Granger, Rashard Lewis, Mike Bibby, Roger Mason and Daequan Cook!

[Double Down]

Interesting fact:

- NBA Inside Stuff host Ahmad Rashad was a former NFL player with the Vikings and Seahawks.

Ahmad was an excellent receiver in the NFL.

[Double Down]

The Cavs are up 36-24 on the Knicks after the first quarter. LeBron has 20 points and 5 rebounds already.

[Mister J]

The Cavs are up 36-24 on the Knicks after the first quarter. LeBron has 20 points and 5 rebounds already.
:dry:

[Silver Knight]

Dude is a MONSTER!

[Excel]

LeBrons finals are 52 points, 11 assists, 10 boards.

[Double Down]

LeBron ended up with 52 points and a triple double. And the Cavs won.

[NewYorkSpider]

I figured he would've had about 45 points in tonights game. A triple double with 52 points is astounding. I don't think that's been done by a lot of people.

edit: The last to do that was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

[Excel]

Didnt LeBron do it last year at MSG? Edit: Nope, he was 2 boards short.

[Darthphere]

Those two...and Rudy Gay and Rudy Fernandez...

I think my boy Kapono has good shot at 3-peating against Danny Granger, Rashard Lewis, Mike Bibby, Roger Mason and Daequan Cook!

Ray Allen and Eddie House need to be there.

[Bond]

Mavericks sitting at #6 in the West right now! :cool:

[Ziggyman]

J...! I think O'neal's performance today (in a losing effort...damn!) will make you squeal like a little girl!

J.O. - 22 points, 9 boards and...9 blocks!

[Mister J]

*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

Tough loss for Miami at Detroit. McDyess had 17 rebounds. McDyess ...in 2009. A legit guy at the 5 would have helped. Any day now.

[Lobo]

Boston big three are going to score 100+ combined against NY :(

[Mister J]

That's a pretty rough homestand for NY; Lakers, Cavs, Celtics. Thow in a game against Orlando and someone would need to file a formal complaint.

[Ziggyman]

Raps have it hard this month...Had Orlando, Cleveland, LA...Have New Orleans, Memphis, Minnie, San An, Clev, NY, NY, Phoenix!

I only see 4 possible wins out of this month...:csad:

...Why do I feel like we will be winless in Feb...!!!???

[Ziggyman]

Nice...Bosh didn't finish the game cuz of a knee injury...!

[Silver Knight]

Lebron be killin it!

[Go Web Go!]

Those two...and Rudy Gay and Rudy Fernandez...

I think my boy Kapono has good shot at 3-peating against Danny Granger, Rashard Lewis, Mike Bibby, Roger Mason and Daequan Cook!

Is this the group of guys slated to be there? Nice to see Cook make it if that's the case.

[Caped Crusader]

Sorry Miami fans for last night :D

[Go Web Go!]

Oh, that's ok. I wouldn't be happy with that win if I'm a Piston's fan though.

[gogetter0587]

Who you got tonight? Lakers or Celts?

Id like to see the Lakers win , I just do not like the celtics. Would be a big victory if Kobe can beat them tonight

[empire]

Lakers all the way. I was just reading an article on NBA.com and Doc Rivers states that Bynum's presence in the Christmas day game was key to LA's victory. I am so pissed that he's out. I still feel the Lakers will prevail but without Bynum it just makes it harder.

[Dark Donnie]

Elton Brand Out for the Year

[Mister J]

The Elton Brand experiment has been a little rocky so far. [/understatement]
Who you got tonight? Lakers or Celts?

Id like to see the Lakers win , I just do not like the celtics. Would be a big victory if Kobe can beat them tonight
I like Boston to return the Christmas Day favor tonight. The Celtics are on a roll, they're at home and I expect KG to be back in the lineup. Mainly, I believe Boston's defense will be able to slow Mamba from going off (in compensating for Bynum's absence). Should be a good one, regardless.

[Excel]

Elton Brand Out for the Year

So much for that signing :hehe:

[Raiden]

So much for that signing :hehe:

I doubt even Brand could've helped Clips, since they now share the worst record in NBA.

[Raiden]

I like Boston to return the Christmas Day favor tonight. The Celtics are on a roll, they're at home and I expect KG to be back in the lineup. Mainly, I believe Boston's defense will be able to slow Mamba from going off (in compensating for Bynum's absence). Should be a good one, regardless.

I'd love for Lakers to win, but the factors overwhelmingly favor Celtics today. Not only do they get homecourt advantage, and Lakers have been on a six games-in-ten days road trip, Lakers are also without Bynum for rest of regular season, but Celtics will likely get KG back from the flu. Celtics are home, well-rested, healthier than Lakers, so I do expect Celtics to win tonight. But it's just a regular season game, and Lakers already beat them once this season. I'm more interested to know if Lakers can beat them if they meet in the Finals, and if Bynum can return then they will have a good chance to beat their archrival from Boston.

[Mister J]

I think a lot of that is due to Boom Dizzle having no interest in doing what Dunleavy wants. The Clips' front office had concerns about that very thing, but Brand said he could reign Davis in ...then he hauled ass.

[Mister J]

Orlando trades Keith Bogans and cash for Tyronn Lue.
That noise you hear is the collective exhale of Magic fans, sighing in relief that Assbury will not be an option to lessen theimpact of Jameer Nelson's injury.


Ray Allen replaces Jameer Nelson on East All-Star roster.
That noise you hear is the collective angst of Cavaliers fans preparing a 'No Mo, No Peace' protest in front of the league's NY office.

LeBron's performance last night, and the inevitable 2010 talk that flares up because of it, reminds me of a thought that Bill Simmons had a few weeks ago: How much insane revenue would the Knicks create if they petitioned the league to change Jerome James' number to 23 and started marketing those jerseys? I don't know if it'd be allowable under the standing rules on number changes, but someone in Knicks management should give thought to this. :funny:

[NewYorkSpider]

Apparently, LeBron's Triple Double isn't legit. Is the 9th rebound LeBron's or Ben Wallace's?

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Either way, LeBron's preformance is astounding.

[Poetic Chaos]

Suck that Boston.

[Go Web Go!]

So much for that signing :hehe:

This one had "bust" written all over it from the start.

[LastSunrise1981]

Suck that Boston.

:whatever:

That was a great game though. Just remember that Boston beat LA for the championship last year, so it was the Lakers who was doing the sucking afterwards.

In any case it was an exciting game that brought back that old school flavor and electricity.

[gogetter0587]

Mavs got owned by D Wil

[Poetic Chaos]

:whatever:

That was a great game though. Just remember that Boston beat LA for the championship last year, so it was the Lakers who was doing the sucking afterwards.

In any case it was an exciting game that brought back that old school flavor and electricity.

I guess I forgot. Looks like the Lakers did too.

Oh, and Ray Allen was an idiot. How bout you actually TRY to make a shot rather than just flailing your body around hoping to draw foul?

[Double Down]

Wade said he is committed to Heat ... for now (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Wade-said-he-is-committed-to-Heat-for-now?urn=nba,138824)


Days after suggesting the possibility of becoming a teammate of LeBron James (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3704/) after the two become free agents in 2010, Miami Heat (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/mia/) guard Dwyane Wade (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3708/) shot down at least one potential destination for the star-studded tandem: New York. Wade said Tuesday that he remains committed to the Heat for now and could see himself spending the rest of his career in Miami. But Wade also said he would explore all of his options should he elect to opt out of his contract and become a free agent in 2010, the same summer several of the NBA's top players have options.
James, the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) forward, is expected to be the most sought-after free agent in 2010 as part of a class that also includes Wade, Toronto's Chris Bosh (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3707/) and Phoenix's Amare Stoudemire (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3607).
''Is it a possibility me and LeBron will play together? It's always a possibility,'' Wade said after the Heat's practice Tuesday at AmericanAirlines Arena. ``We're both free agents. Is it a possibility I'm going to New York? That's not a possibility in my mind.''
That's the strongest stance yet Wade has taken on his potential free agency in 2010. His comments came on the heels of a New York Post story published Friday in which Wade was quoted as saying he and James could end up as teammates.
But Wade took exception to some of the comments attributed to him in the story and said Friday that he never implied that the two would play in New York. The Knicks are among several teams that are clearing significant salary cap space to make a run at James and another top-tier free agent. The Heat also is among those teams angling to sign two players to maximum-level deals.
Source: Miami Herald (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/basketball/story/886030.html)

[Double Down]

Good article on free agents:

The myth of NBA free agency

http://www.thespec.com/Sports/article/508653

[Mister J]

Good read. The FA talk is overblown. There's nothing wrong with positioning yourself (within reason) because the names are staggering, but the media obsession with this thing, as if some of these moves are a certainty, is ridiculous. The same for teams trading away decent talent for really nothing more than expirings.

That said, I expect Stoudemire, Nash and Bosh to go bye-bye.

[Lobo]

I think NY has a chance at signing Bosh, and Joe Johnson in 2010

[Go Web Go!]

I'll be 3 rows from the court at the Heat game Sunday. Keep an eye out for the guy wearing the "Trade Marion" sandwich board ;)

[Double Down]

Good read. The FA talk is overblown. There's nothing wrong with positioning yourself (within reason) because the names are staggering, but the media obsession with this thing, as if some of these moves are a certainty, is ridiculous. The same for teams trading away decent talent for really nothing more than expirings.

That said, I expect Stoudemire, Nash and Bosh to go bye-bye.

I would love to see most of the free agents stay where they are. It's better for the league. I've all but stopped watching baseball because I just got tired of watching the same teams snap up all the best free agents every year. That doesn't interest me. That's why football is so great. Favre didn't go to the Jets because they are in New York, he went there because it was the best fit. I would rather see the NBA follow the NFL's strategies than MLB's.

[Excel]

The NBA took away LeBrons 10th rebound.

[Silver Knight]

This one had "bust" written all over it from the start.
Ditto.
I think NY has a chance at signing Bosh, and Joe Johnson in 2010
I agree 100%.

[Nightmare]

Hey Silver Knight, what do you think about the Tyson Chandler for Shawn Marion rumor?

[Silver Knight]

Hey Silver Knight, what do you think about the Tyson Chandler for Shawn Marion rumor?
I hope it happens. Marions salary is off the books at seasons end and we will have some money to spend in the off season, in not this off season then in 2010. My deam scenario would be to sign either Johnson or Bosh in 2010. I can only imagine what the Hornets would do with a CP/Johnson or CP/Bosh connection.

[Go Web Go!]

I'd much rather have O'Neal over Chandler. Chandler isn't all that great and doesn't thrive unless there's a big play PG getting him the ball. I hope Miami pulls the trigger quick.

[Mister J]

Chandler also has a player option at 13M in 2010 that I don't see him passing up. He's not the post presence on offense Riles is looking for and his rebounding is down. I don't know what the other filler pieces would be along with Tyson, but I get the feeling I wouldn't care. No thanks.

O'Neal for Marion and Banks, please.

[Ghostvirus]

So word on the street is the Bulls might get Amare. I don't know what the hell Kerr is thinking, but I like it.:up:

[Silver Knight]

So word on the street is the Bulls might get Amare. I don't know what the hell Kerr is thinking, but I like it.:up:
No, word on the street the Heat turned for a Amare for Beasley and Matrix.

Bad move for the Heat imo. They should have made that deal.

[Ziggyman]

Chandler also has a player option at 13M in 2010 that I don't see him passing up. He's not the post presence on offense Riles is looking for and his rebounding is down. I don't know what the other filler pieces would be along with Tyson, but I get the feeling I wouldn't care. No thanks.

O'Neal for Marion and Banks, please.

:woot:

...We should trade Bosh now...!!!

...He is very overrated...He's one of the softest big men around today!!!

[Go Web Go!]

:woot:

...We should trade Bosh now...!!!

...He is very overrated...He's one of the softest big men around today!!!

What? The man is a top 10-15 player in the league. You're going to wish he were still in Toronto when he hightails it next Summer.

[BlackLantern]

I loved the new NBA on ESPN commercial where they pick up the weird kid talking about writing fan fiction about Paul Pierce and how he could publish it, but won't......that is how I see EVERY single person that writes fanfic....

[Ziggyman]

What? The man is a top 10-15 player in the league. You're going to wish he were still in Toronto when he hightails it next Summer.

Naw, I've actually been pushing for a trade for awhile...I don't see us going anywhere with him...

...To me he's like an Odom...Odom ain't nothing without Kobe, Gasol and co.
Odom's third on priority list really...I feel the Bosh isn't really a star...If others are having a good game, and he doesn't get the rock often...He's gonna want the rock when he's cold because he thinks he's all that.

When we drafted him, we thought we were getting a pretty skilled centre that could one day become the next Jermaine O'neal/Garnett...But he's just way too soft...which is why we brought in J.O. for toughness which Bosh lacks...If Bosh became the centre we predicted...We wouldn't have our hands tied with O'neal. Every star big man can take him on in the post, you name it...Howard, O'neal, Amare, Yao, Duncan, Garnett!

[Lobo]

:woot:

...We should trade Bosh now...!!!

...He is very overrated...He's one of the softest big men around today!!!

I'll take him!

[BlackLantern]

Unconfirmed sources report that the Knicks will be releasing the entire roster and replacing them with 15 year old girls....the quality of play should not be affected

[Ziggyman]

I'll take him!

NY right...

Nah...Don't like anyone on the Knicks...

[Lobo]

Unconfirmed sources report that the Knicks will be releasing the entire roster and replacing them with 15 year old girls....the quality of play should not be affected

We'd get better :(

[BlackLantern]

Probably.....

[Go Web Go!]

When we drafted him, we thought we were getting a pretty skilled centre that could one day become the next Jermaine O'neal/Garnett...But he's just way too soft...which is why we brought in J.O. for toughness which Bosh lacks...If Bosh became the centre we predicted...We wouldn't have our hands tied with O'neal. Every star big man can take him on in the post, you name it...Howard, O'neal, Amare, Yao, Duncan, Garnett!

Well, there's your problem. He's not a center.

[Ziggyman]

Well, there's your problem. He's not a center.

Exactly...He's a power forward...He screwed us...

[Bond]

Just got back from the Mavs game, which they won over the Bulls in OT. Dirk had 44 points, scoring 14 of them in the overtime period. It was awesome.

[JaD]

You went to that game Bond, very nice :up:

[empire]

Great win for the Lakers against Boston a few days back. I loved the fact that they stood their ground and refuse to back down. More impressive is that they manage to do it without Bynum. Props to the squad.

In more recent Lakers news... Radmanovic was sent packing to the Bobcats in exchange for Adam Morrison.

Well have to see how this one works out.

[Nightmare]

Adam Morrison and Shannon Brown, looks like a salary dump.

[Silver Knight]

Adam Morrison and Shannon Brown, looks like a salary dump.
Clearly. Good move for the Lakers.

[L.A.]

:woot:

...We should trade Bosh now...!!!

...He is very overrated...He's one of the softest big men around today!!!
How about Bosh for Amare??? I think it would help out both teams since both wants to be traded.

[Double Down]

How about Bosh for Amare??? I think it would help out both teams since both wants to be traded.

I could see that.

[Poetic Chaos]

Again the Lakers showing they're the team to beat.

[Raiden]

Lakers won! Hoot! It's great to see Lakers (sans Bynum) can defeat both Celtics and Cavs, as a road team. If they can keep playing like this and Bynum comes back by the playoff, then I think they'll have a great shot to win the title this year.

[Caped Crusader]

Good win for the Lakers :woot:

[Ziggyman]

How about Bosh for Amare??? I think it would help out both teams since both wants to be traded.

I would love that...Plus, that's one of the big rumours right now...

[empire]

Great win for the Lakers. Odom was a monster leading the way with 28.

[Double Down]

Hard to argue that the Lakers are the best team in the league right now.

And good win for the Suns :grin: The Cavs maintained their commanding 11.5-game lead in the Central.

[Mister J]

Who was that guy wearing #7 for LA today and what did he do with Lamar Odom? :funny:

[Double Down]

Who was that guy wearing #7 for LA today and what did he do with Lamar Odom? :funny:

He was better than Kobe or LeBron today.

[Raiden]

He was better than Kobe or LeBron today.

If he continues to play like this, there won't be any trading rumors for Odom.

[Caped Crusader]

Pistons cant win the central allllllll the time.

[Silver Knight]

Where you guys think Amare will end up?

[Go Web Go!]

I don't think he'll move. For now.

[Silver Knight]

I don't think he'll move. For now.
He is bound to. Well I think so anyway.

[gogetter0587]

You can count on Lamar not playing like this for very long. He is one of the most inconsistent players i have ever witnessed. He has always had star potential , ala last night. He has never been good for more than a short stretch though. I would trade him, perfect time to do it.

Amare may get traded, only if they are rebuilding everything. I try and get rid of shaq first if i were a sun, they already got rid of all there defense and a young big in diaw , might as well try and get rid of the rest keeping only Barbosa, not the aging nash.

J Rich for Bell and Diaw was actually embarrassing for the organization.

Rebuild completely , but you better get rid of your longer term contracts before you dish your only piece with an upside.

[Etienne]

You can count on Lamar not playing like this for very long. He is one of the most inconsistent players i have ever witnessed. He has always had star potential , ala last night. He has never been good for more than a short stretch though. I would trade him, perfect time to do it.

Amare may get traded, only if they are rebuilding everything. I try and get rid of shaq first if i were a sun, they already got rid of all there defense and a young big in diaw , might as well try and get rid of the rest keeping only Barbosa, not the aging nash.

J Rich for Bell and Diaw was actually embarrassing for the organization.

Rebuild completely , but you better get rid of your longer term contracts before you dish your only piece with an upside.
With Larry Brown as his coach Diaw has been playing pretty damn good.

[Raiden]

You can count on Lamar not playing like this for very long. He is one of the most inconsistent players i have ever witnessed. He has always had star potential , ala last night. He has never been good for more than a short stretch though. I would trade him, perfect time to do it.

Amare may get traded, only if they are rebuilding everything. I try and get rid of shaq first if i were a sun, they already got rid of all there defense and a young big in diaw , might as well try and get rid of the rest keeping only Barbosa, not the aging nash.

J Rich for Bell and Diaw was actually embarrassing for the organization.

Rebuild completely , but you better get rid of your longer term contracts before you dish your only piece with an upside.

Odom may be inconsistent, but now Lakers need him more than ever, with Bynum out until the playoff and they can't afford to lose him right now. If he plays well down the stretch, then I think Lakers will probably offer him an extention after the season ends. If Odom can help Lakers win the championship, they will overlook his inconsistency.

[Caped Crusader]

Amare on possibly playing in Detroit: “It would be phenomenal. I think the fans here have been probably the top fans in the world since I’ve been in the NBA. They’re always cheering their team on and every time we come here, their always loud and rowdy, so it would be fun to play here.”

[Caped Crusader]

The fast-sinking Raptors are looking to shake things up and have talked to the Suns about trading Amare Stoudemire. But unless they decide to part with Chris Bosh, chances are slim that Raptors president Bryan Colangelo will get the All-Star power forward he drafted out of high school in 2002 when he was Phoenix’s top basketball executive. Bosh has missed the last two games with a sprained knee and his future in Toronto, beyond 2010 - when he becomes a free agent - is up in the air. So Toronto might be forced to get something for him. Detroit has been linked to Bosh in 2010, so it’s entirely possible that the Pistons will try to make it a three-way deal. Detroit’s Tayshaun Prince is being mentioned as one of the primary players who would end up with the Suns.”

[Double Down]

From Rotoworld.com:

Amare Stoudemire appeared to throw Suns' captain Steve Nash under the bus on Friday, while also talking openly and preparing to play for a contender once he's traded.
"I’m not a captain so you can’t place too much of the blame on me," Stoudemire said. "It’s not my job to rally the troops and get everybody on board. It’s the captain’s job to do that." Stoudemire also talked about the possibility of being traded. "I know for sure wherever I go we’re definitely going to be playoff contenders. I bring a lot to the table." No deal is imminent, but it sounds like Amare is likely going to be heading out of Phoenix in the next couple weeks.

[gogetter0587]

With Larry Brown as his coach Diaw has been playing pretty damn good.


I was saying it was an embarrassing trade for the suns organization. Richardson is exactly what the suns did not need and they traded away an improving big man in Diaw and a defensive lock in Bell. both unselfish guys on a ball hogging team , in return they got a shooter with aging hops and no defensive play who wants the ball.

Steve Kerr , i think is trying to re do the whole team though.

[Double Down]

I was saying it was an embarrassing trade for the suns organization. Richardson is exactly what the suns did not need and they traded away an improving big man in Diaw and a defensive lock in Bell. both unselfish guys on a ball hogging team , in return they got a shooter with aging hops and no defensive play who wants the ball.

Steve Kerr , i think is trying to re do the whole team though.

I liked this trade for Charlotte from the get-go, but I was definitely in the minority.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16096195&highlight=diaw#post16096195

[gogetter0587]

I liked this trade for Charlotte from the get-go, but I was definitely in the minority.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16096195&highlight=diaw#post16096195

Then the majority is ridiculous. Jason Richardson really???

[Go Web Go!]

He is bound to. Well I think so anyway.

Eventually. Maybe by next trade deadline when his contract is just about up & Phenix becomes a little more desperate to move him. I think Phoenix will ask too much for him now & will turn other teams off because of that. I wouldn't mind seeing the guy in Miami, but not now. Sending Beasley away in a trade for a player you can sign next summer? No thanks. Plus, how STUPID would the Suns look by re-acquiring Marion? And how irritated would Shaq be knowing he's on another team that appears to be rebuilding. He'll want out next. Whatever the case, things aren't looking too bright in Phoenix.

[Mister J]

I liked this trade for Charlotte from the get-go, but I was definitely in the minority.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16096195&highlight=diaw#post16096195

Then the majority is ridiculous. Jason Richardson really???
Yeah, I look pretty bad on that one now. :funny:
At the time, Diaw was doing nothing in a crowded Phoenix frontcourt, but has stepped up in Charlotte, with Sean May continuing to be a disappointment. He's scoring about 15 PPG with the Bobcats, as opposed to the 8 he was getting with Phoenix. Bell's had a similar bump in scoring. I wouldn't have predicted that, and given Charlotte's thin scoring average beforehand, I didn't see who was going to pick up the slack as their leading scorer got traded.

The Suns needed some offensive punch on the wing. Richardson seemed to fit the bill. Largely, I find myself critical of any trade that Jordan signs off on. Eh.

[Mister J]

Jefferson Has Torn ACL in Right Knee (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3894938)
MINNEAPOLIS -- The Minnesota Timberwolves star center Al Jefferson is out indefinitely with a torn ACL in his right knee.

The team said that an MRI performed Monday morning discovered the extent of the damage done to the knee a night before when Jefferson landed awkwardly late in the game against New Orleans.

A date for surgery on the anterior cruciate ligament has not been set.

Jefferson is the team's leading scorer and rebounder at 23.1 points and 11 rebounds per game.

"This is an unfortunate situation for Al and we wish him a quick recovery," said Timberwolves head coach Kevin McHale in a prepared statement.

He continued, "Knowing Al, he will work hard in his rehab efforts to get back on the court as soon as possible. In the interim, I'm confident that the other players on our roster will step up and meet this challenge."

The Timberwolves (17-33) host Toronto on Tuesday.
Damn. Big Al is on the shelf, too.

[Excel]

That sucks. Hes improved so much since we last saw Big Al.

[gogetter0587]

At least that squad will be looking at a top 3 pick, if the balls fall right, unlike the recent past.

Should end up with at least 2nd worst record without their only player of quality

[Mister J]

*da da dun*
Kevin Love to the rescue!

Not really.

[Trainwreck2100]

Charles Barkley will return to the TNT network as an NBA analyst soon after its airing of the All-Star Game on Sunday, the Sports Business Journal has reported.


Barkley
Barkley, who faces a drunken-driving charge after a Dec. 31 arrest, took a leave of absence last month. Test results revealed Barkley had a blood-alcohol level at .149, nearly twice the legal limit of .08 in Arizona.

"It wasn't a hard decision for me to give him some time off to get his legal matters straight and to get his personal life in order," Turner Sports president David Levy said, according to the report. "The question is, when is the right time to bring him back? There is no magic answer to that. It's just a gut feel."

While waiting for results of the blood test, TNT considered suspending Barkley if the results showed his blood-alcohol content was over the legal limit, a source told ESPN.com.

The network has not chosen a specific date for his return to its "Inside the NBA" studio show, the Sports Business Journal reported, and plans are forthcoming as to how Barkley will address the incident.

"We haven't really thought about it, but I'm sure Charles will have something to say," Levy said. "What's really nice is that he's had so much support from a lot of people in this challenging time for him. He's humbled a little bit."

praise ALLah

[Ziggyman]

The fast-sinking Raptors are looking to shake things up and have talked to the Suns about trading Amare Stoudemire. But unless they decide to part with Chris Bosh, chances are slim that Raptors president Bryan Colangelo will get the All-Star power forward he drafted out of high school in 2002 when he was Phoenix’s top basketball executive. Bosh has missed the last two games with a sprained knee and his future in Toronto, beyond 2010 - when he becomes a free agent - is up in the air. So Toronto might be forced to get something for him. Detroit has been linked to Bosh in 2010, so it’s entirely possible that the Pistons will try to make it a three-way deal. Detroit’s Tayshaun Prince is being mentioned as one of the primary players who would end up with the Suns.”

Yep...I can see this happening...

[Silver Knight]

Eventually. Maybe by next trade deadline when his contract is just about up & Phenix becomes a little more desperate to move him. I think Phoenix will ask too much for him now & will turn other teams off because of that. I wouldn't mind seeing the guy in Miami, but not now. Sending Beasley away in a trade for a player you can sign next summer? No thanks. Plus, how STUPID would the Suns look by re-acquiring Marion? And how irritated would Shaq be knowing he's on another team that appears to be rebuilding. He'll want out next. Whatever the case, things aren't looking too bright in Phoenix.
Very true, but I can see him getting traded this year. He is just talking to much trash and is pushing his way out.

[Go Web Go!]

Very true, but I can see him getting traded this year. He is just talking to much trash and is pushing his way out.

That's nothing out of the ordinary in the NBA. We'll see what happens, but I don't picture him being moved right now.

[Silver Knight]

That's nothing out of the ordinary in the NBA. We'll see what happens, but I don't picture him being moved right now.
Who, if anyone do you see being moved?

[Ghostvirus]

I would like to see Amare come to chi-town. But it would be hard for Chicago to make an good offer.

[Silver Knight]

I would like to see Amare come to chi-town. But it would be hard for Chicago to make an good offer.
I heard the Suns are very high on Thomas.

[Go Web Go!]

Who, if anyone do you see being moved?

Marion, hopefully. :woot:

There will probably be a few minor deals much like the Lakers/Bobcats trade that went down over the weekend, but nothing major other than the potential Miami/Toronto deal that's been talked about for a good month.

[Silver Knight]

Marion, hopefully. :woot:

There will probably be a few minor deals much like the Lakers/Bobcats trade that went down over the weekend, but nothing major other than the potential Miami/Toronto deal that's been talked about for a good month.
I think the Cavs will trade Wallys contract and get a guy like Carter.

[Go Web Go!]

I think the Cavs will trade Wallys contract and get a guy like Carter.

As in Vince Carter? No way is that happening - and it would take a lot more than Wally & a couple of bench players to land VC in Cleveland. The Cavs aren't going to do to NJ what the Lakers did to Memphis in the Gasol trade. Wouldn't be a smart move either.

[Silver Knight]

As in Vince Carter? No way is that happening - and it would take a lot more than Wally & a couple of bench players to land VC in Cleveland. The Cavs aren't going to do to NJ what the Lakers did to Memphis in the Gasol trade. Wouldn't be a smart move either.
Why not? Its an expireing contract. Every team wants to clear cap space for 2010.

[Go Web Go!]

Why not? Its an expireing contract. Every team wants to clear cap space for 2010.

Not quite, sir. Vince's deal has another 3 years left on it (including this year), so that means it runs through the 2010-2011 season.

[Silver Knight]

No sir. I ment Wallys contract is expiring so it woud be a good deal for the Nets as well as the Cavs who in turn would have a true second scoreing option.

See where im going with this?

[Go Web Go!]

No sir. I ment Wallys contract is expiring so it woud be a good deal for the Nets as well as the Cavs who in turn would have a true second scoreing option.

See where im going with this?

Ah yes. I thought you were referring to Vince as the one with an expiring deal. I haven't heard anything of it, so I don't know if there's an actual rumor flying around or if it's a hypothetical - whatever the case, that would be a flat out MISTAKE on Cleveland's part. You're a top 3 team in the league. Why tinker with your roster? That's point #1. Point #2: once again, Vince has 3 years left on a $61 million deal. I highly doubt Cleveland thinks Vince is worth clogging their cap, especially when his contract runs THROUGH the fabled summer of 2010. Less money to re-sign LeBron & any other top notch FA's out there.

[Double Down]

The Cavs tried to trade for Carter before the season (before they got Mo Williams) and the Nets wouldn't trade him. Now, the Cavs aren't interested. The Cavs are looking at power forwards and centers pretty much exclusively. Think Marcus Camby or Brad Miller types.

[Silver Knight]

Ah yes. I thought you were referring to Vince as the one with an expiring deal. I haven't heard anything of it, so I don't know if there's an actual rumor flying around or if it's a hypothetical - whatever the case, that would be a flat out MISTAKE on Cleveland's part. You're a top 3 team in the league. Why tinker with your roster? That's point #1. Point #2: once again, Vince has 3 years left on a $61 million deal. I highly doubt Cleveland thinks Vince is worth clogging their cap, especially when his contract runs THROUGH the fabled summer of 2010. Less money to re-sign LeBron & any other top notch FA's out there.
If they re-sign Bron I doubt they will have enough cap to sign another star.
The Cavs tried to trade for Carter before the season (before they got Mo Williams) and the Nets wouldn't trade him. Now, the Cavs aren't interested. The Cavs are looking at power forwards and centers pretty much exclusively. Think Marcus Camby or Brad Miller types.I think they will get Camby.

[Go Web Go!]

If they re-sign Bron I doubt they will have enough cap to sign another star.


The Cavs will only have 4 players under contract. They'll have room to do some damage.

[Double Down]

The Cavs will have the cap room to sign LeBron and another top name.

[Silver Knight]

Bosh? I think he will end up in either NY or Detroit.

[Go Web Go!]

Bosh? I think he will end up in either NY or Detroit.

Who knows. It's pretty early to speculate, which is why I hate all the LeBron/Knicks talk. I do know that Bosh has always given Pat Riley a hard on & had Toronto not selected him at 4 in 2003, Miami would have taken him at 5. They're going to give him a run.

[Silver Knight]

Haha. Good stuff man. I guess we will have to wait 10 days or so until the trade deadline.

[Trainwreck2100]

did anybody see that the grizzlies outrebounded the Hornets 64-37?

[Silver Knight]

did anybody see that the grizzlies outrebounded the Hornets 64-37?
Does not suprise me since Ty and West were not playing.

[gogetter0587]

They had one of the usual starting bunch available for that game. Any team with 4 starters out is likely to get out rebounded.

Also the Cavs getting VC would be a HUGE mistake.

who do you folks think will miss out on the playoffs in the wild wild west?

Personally I think if everyone was healthy it would be the suns, although the Jazz have not had a full roster all year, so it very well may be the UTES.

[Caped Crusader]

The Amare Stoudemire trade rumors continue to heat up with the first wave of reactions coming out of Phoenix. Stoudemire held court last night in Philadelphia telling reporters that in his mind it was inevitable that he'd be the guy traded, but said if he was not traded he'd continue to give the team his all. Stoudemire said after meetings with management last week, he felt the decision to make changes was more about economics and financial decisions. Here is where some things stand today:
Miami and New Jersey Are Out: The Miami HEAT and the New Jersey Nets seem to be out of the running for Stoudemire. The HEAT's offer was said to include sending Shawn Marion's ending deal and Michael Beasley along with a future first round draft pick, but the deal would have required Phoenix to send as many as four other players to Miami to make the deal work under the cap. The Suns also did not view Marion or Beasley as guys that can insure home court, taking the HEAT out of the race. The Nets offer was said to include the ending contract of Stromile Swift along with Yi Jianlian, Ryan Anderson and a first round draft pick. Again, not enough talent to insure home court in April for the Suns. Both teams' offers are still on the table according to a source familiar with the talks, meaning should other talks fall through the Suns always have the option of coming back, but the odds the HEAT or Nets land Amar'e looks pretty slim today.

Chicago The Front Runner: The Chicago Bulls might have the pieces for a deal, it now comes down does Chicago really want to make a deal? Sources near the Bulls said they are still not sold that landing Amar'e makes them a better basketball team now or in the future. It seems some of the waffling revolves around Tyrus Thomas who over the past week has averaged better than 15 points per game, and has a double-double or close to it, in his last 7 games. The Bulls' discussions for Stoudemire are said to include Thabo Sefolosha, the ending contracts of Drew Gooden and Cedric Simmons and Thomas. It seems that this may be the deal that gets it done from Phoenix's point of view, but Bulls sources said neither Bulls' GM John Paxson or Vinny Del Negro have agreed that this deal works for the Bulls. The belief is this thing will not get resolved before the All-Star break, and that the Bulls want to "sleep on it" for a few days.

Golden State Pushing Hard: The Golden State Warriors made it known they wanted in on the Stoudemire talks, but sources close to the situation said the Suns have no interest in the pieces the Warriors have to offer. Any deal with Golden State would have involved the Base-Year Compensation deals of either Monta Ellis or Andris Biedrins and that in itself does not create luxury tax breathing room going forward. It does provide some interesting options for the Suns, but the amount of talent other offers brings to Phoenix makes a deal through Golden State highly unlikely, despite the Warriors' desire to get involved. If the Warriors are really putting Biedrins on the market, they may find an interested suitor – but considering he's out until after the All-Star break some teams might wants to see him healthy before pulling the trigger on a deal. Expect to hear more about the Warriors in the trade market, but do not expect the Warriors to land Stoudemire.

Detroit In The Mix: The Pistons are in the mix for Stoudemire, their offer is said to be built around the ending contract of Rasheed Wallace and likely Amir Johnson. Much like the Bulls reported offer, this deal does give the Suns what they said they wanted, and that's future flexibility and enough talent to compete for homecourt. Say what you will about Rasheed Wallace the person, Rasheed Wallace the player could bring the grit and toughness defensively the Suns are missing, and Amir Johnson is an exceptional future talent. Terry Porter's familiarity with Wallace certainly would make the transition easier. If the Pistons put a first round draft pick in the mix, that might be the best deal for the Suns' defined goals of flexibility and a first round playoff berth this season. Can the Suns squeeze a little more talent out of the deal remains to be seen. Pistons sources said Joe Dumars is not really engaging in talks about possible deals around the team, but the source said Joe tends not to be chatty when he's working on a deal.

Toronto Doesn't Have The Chips: The Raptors were rumored to have made a pass at the Suns regarding Stoudemire, but league sources said the Raptors simply do not have the chips to make a deal, unless they decided to move Chris Bosh, which sources close to the situation said is not going to happen. The Raptors are being aggressive in trying to find a deal before the February 19th trade deadline, it just does not look like it will be for Stoudemire.

The Suns are not in any hurry to make a deal, according to sources close to the talks. The belief is the Suns will work this thing to the deadline before making a decision, and there is still a strong belief that if the right deal does not present itself, the Suns will hold the line rather than sell off their best asset for less than the value they feel he should return. Keep in mind the Suns played this game with Shawn Marion for the better part of two years as well.

Cavs and Celtics Holding Firm: While some teams are out in the marketplace trying to find a deal that improves their team, both the Celtics and Cavaliers are saying they will not be playing the trade game at the deadline. The Celtics were rumored to have eyes for an additional shooter and were linked to Orlando's J.J. Redick a few weeks ago. Since those rumors broke the Celtics have been mostly quiet on the trade front and this week indicated to reporters that they would not be making a deal before the trade deadline. The Cavaliers, who just lost Sasha Pavlovic for 4 to 6 weeks to a high ankle sprain will not be looking at deals involving the ending contract of Wally Szczerbiak. In fact Wally may move into the starting lineup while Sasha is out. The Cavaliers are saying that while they have offers and options in the trade market, team chemistry and continuity matter more than roster tweaks. A Cavs sources said that LeBron James made it clear to management a few weeks ago that he wanted to see this team kept intact, and with all the hype surrounding James' pending free agency in the Summer of 2010 don't be surprised if he's calling the shots on personnel going forward.

[Go Web Go!]

Like I've been saying, it'd be nice to have Amare in town but I'm glad this deal doesn't seem to be going down. I wouldn't want to get rid of a guy like Beasley early in his career for a guy that will only cost you dollars and not players in a year & 1/2. Riley does need to pull the [BLEEPING] trigger on a Marion deal. Any Marion deal. I'm getting too damn antsy.

[Mister J]

Agreed on all points.

I'd like to think Riles' is using this extra time to try to snag a draft pick or Jamario Moon in the deal ...or work some other secretive deal. Toronto still seems to be greatly interested, so I doubt the offer dries up. I'm as sold on O'Neal's knees as I'll ever be and letting Marion walk is a waste.

[Ziggyman]

Agreed on all points.

I'd like to think Riles' is using this extra time to try to snag a draft pick or Jamario Moon in the deal ...or work some other secretive deal. Toronto still seems to be greatly interested, so I doubt the offer dries up. I'm as sold on O'Neal's knees as I'll ever be and letting Marion walk is a waste.

Hahaha...Trust me...Jamario's a joke this season...He's capable of averaging around 10 and 7 a game...But it's just that he's stupid with the ball...! He can't create for himself unless he's going to dunk, he's a very inconsistent shooter, is very soft and won't drive on anyone bigger than him...

Last season he was a surprise, this season he's a joke...Hopefully he won't be a complete dud, I'm not sold on giving him away just yet...I'll hold on for another season, but you can have J.O.

Dammit...Let's get rid of Bosh...Either that or he walks in '10...Colangelo man, don't screw up on this, trade his ass away...But not for abo****ely nothing like we did with Wince Carter!

...I want Delfino back!

[Mister J]

Cavs' Williams Gets All-Star Spot After All (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar2009/news/story?id=3897494)
NEW YORK -- Mo Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2178) will play in the All-Star Game after all.

Twice snubbed, the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cle) point guard was chosen by NBA commissioner David Stern on Tuesday. Williams will replace Toronto Raptors (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=tor) forward Chris Bosh (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1977), who will miss the game because of a sprained right knee.

Williams wasn't chosen by Eastern Conference head coaches as a reserve, then was bypassed by Stern in favor of Boston's Ray Allen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=9) when Orlando's Jameer Nelson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2439) had to be replaced because of injury.

The Cavaliers were upset that they were the only top-five team that didn't get multiple All-Stars. LeBron James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1966) called Williams' omission a "total smack in the face."

Williams, who is averaging 17.1 points, will make his first All-Star Game appearance.

Bosh injured his knee in the loss to the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal) on Feb. 4. He was averaging a team-leading 22.7 points and 9.5 rebounds for the Raptors.

The All-Star Game is Sunday in Phoenix.

NBA Chooses Three To Play H-O-R-S-E (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar2009/news/story?id=3896766)
Rookie of the Year Kevin Durant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3202) and O.J. Mayo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3450), a favorite for this season's award, highlight the field for a H-O-R-S-E competition during All-Star Saturday night.

Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl) guard Joe Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1007) is the other competitor in TNT's special event, the network announced Tuesday. Johnson will play in the All-Star Game, while Durant and Mayo were selected for the rookie challenge.
The contest will take place outdoors at the NBA's All-Star Block Party on Saturday in Phoenix before TNT televises the All-Star Saturday night festivities.

If a player makes a shot in H-O-R-S-E, the next competitor must make the same shot or receive a letter. A player gets an 'H' for his first miss and is eliminated once he has all five letters of the word.
Players will have 24 seconds to execute their shots, and an NBA referee will rule if they're done properly. Dunking won't be allowed.
So, was there a raffle or something. I imagine quite a few people wanted in on this. Maybe. :confused: :up:

I also heard, in some promotional deal, the game would actually be G-E-I-C-O. I'm hoping that's not true. Yay, sponsorship. :dry:
Still, this should be fun.

Hahaha...Trust me...Jamario's a joke this season...He's capable of averaging around 10 and 7 a game...But it's just that he's stupid with the ball...! He can't create for himself unless he's going to dunk, he's a very inconsistent shooter, is very soft and won't drive on anyone bigger than him...

Last season he was a surprise, this season he's a joke...Hopefully he won't be a complete dud, I'm not sold on giving him away just yet...I'll hold on for another season, but you can have J.O.

Dammit...Let's get rid of Bosh...Either that or he walks in '10...Colangelo man, don't screw up on this, trade his ass away...But not for abo****ely nothing like we did with Wince Carter!

...I want Delfino back!
Hmm. I hadn't really paid that much attention to him this year. I appreciate the frank response, but I'm still of the mind that Moon is a better rotation option than Yakhouba Diawara. :funny:

[Go Web Go!]

I appreciate the frank response, but I'm still of the mind that Moon is a better rotation option than Yakhouba Diawara. :funny:

I can't believe they let him have Thunder Dan's #9 :cmad:

[Caped Crusader]

...I want Delfino back!


:dry:

[Excel]

These refs want Indiana to win dont they?

[Ziggyman]

:dry:

...What's wrong with that...?

[Double Down]

The refs were awful in the Cavs-Pacers game.

[Caped Crusader]

...What's wrong with that...?

DELFINO!? :wow:

lol

[Ziggyman]

He was one of our better players when he was in Toronto...

[Caped Crusader]

dude is just so lazyyyyy

[Ziggyman]

dude is just so lazyyyyy

...He seemed to find his stride in T.O, we just didn't have the flow to keep him, when we should of...

[Poetic Chaos]

To put up those kinda #'s but end up making the game-losing foul...

Ouch.

[Go Web Go!]

Ugh. The way Miami's been playing lately makes me want to pull my hair out. They've lost something like 5 out of 6. Not the way you want to go into the AS break. Hopefully they'll get their act together against Chicago before the break and continue to do so afterward. So damn annoying.

[Mister J]

It's as if they're looking forward to the break already. If the plan was to stink it up heading into the break, Spo could at least give Beas a few more minutes.

On the other hand, whenever Denver's on the other side as of late, there seems to be a beating awaiting.

A decent showing in Chicago will pacify me ...at least, until the trading deadline.

[Go Web Go!]

Felton for Tinsley deal in the works between Charlotte & Indy. They're liquidating in Charlotte. Damn.

[bbf2]

Apparently Adam Morrison got a little reminder of his 2006 tournament breakdown when he first came to the Lakers...

I asked Jordan Farmar at practice yesterday (I'm an intern with local news) if he had any words with Morrison about the fact that his UCLA team beat Gonzaga. He said "Yeah, actually when he first got to his locker room, there was a picture of him crying on the floor of the tournament with the words 'There's no crying in basketball.'"
Jordan denied that he was the one who put it there and then said some generic athlete interview stuff about how that was all in the past and now him and Adam working together trying to get a ring with the Lakers and whatnot.

Then when everyone was talking to Morrison I asked him about Farmar's comments and if he had any idea who put the picture up (like it wasn't obvious): (skip ahead to 0:34 in the video for my question):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BVscQhG7-M

He says that Farmar is obviously the prime suspect and that he knew he'd get some flack for that coming to LA and that it was all in good fun. He seems pretty mellow about it, seemed pretty detached during the whole interview actually. He's been made fun of for crying so much in the past three years that ever since then he's been acting like an emotionless zombie.

[gogetter0587]

Bron and Brown should quit crying. The refs sucked it up on both of those calls last night.

Both alley oop failures were clean and the game should have been over before Brons foul got called. I am actually glad the refs made up for that crap call and the rightful victor prevailed. It is hard to score 47 and lose though.

They will be fine , besides its like a fad to lose to Indiana at this point. Unless your team has less than 15 wins then Indiana rolls over.

[Silver Knight]

Can someone please tell me how Joe Johnson did NOT make the All Star team?

[Mister J]

Bron and Brown should quit crying. The refs sucked it up on both of those calls last night.

Both alley oop failures were clean and the game should have been over before Brons foul got called. I am actually glad the refs made up for that crap call and the rightful victor prevailed. It is hard to score 47 and lose though.

They will be fine , besides its like a fad to lose to Indiana at this point. Unless your team has less than 15 wins then Indiana rolls over.
It's funny to read Mike Brown's comments about how awful a call it was. The same thing happened .3 seconds earlier, and Granger actually appeared to be in better defensive position than LeBron was on the subsequent play. If the first was a foul, they both were. This is worse than the usual brand of ref bellyaching. :confused: :funny:

The Pacers are the only team to have beaten the Lakers, Celtics, Cavs and Magic this season ...and they're 11 games under .500. Injuries, my ass. That's just weird.
Can someone please tell me how Joe Johnson did NOT make the All Star team?
You mean in 2006? Because he's made it every year since. :dry:

[Double Down]

It's funny to read Mike Brown's comments about how awful a call it was. The same thing happened .3 seconds earlier, and Granger actually appeared to be in better defensive position than LeBron was on the subsequent play. If the first was a foul, they both were. This is worse than the usual brand of ref bellyaching. :confused: :funny:


No way. Granger hip-checked LeBron out of the way on the first call, while LeBron jumped straight up for the ball on the second call. The pass on the second call came up short. LeBron didn't even have to move horizontally to get the ball. LeBron did not commit a foul. Pure and simple.
Granger may have committed a foul in the strictest sense of the rulebook, but I was shocked that they called it.
Neither call was necessary, but it was clear to everyone watching the game that the second call was a make-up call.

[Raiden]

Apparently Adam Morrison got a little reminder of his 2006 tournament breakdown when he first came to the Lakers...

I asked Jordan Farmar at practice yesterday (I'm an intern with local news) if he had any words with Morrison about the fact that his UCLA team beat Gonzaga. He said "Yeah, actually when he first got to his locker room, there was a picture of him crying on the floor of the tournament with the words 'There's no crying in basketball.'"
Jordan denied that he was the one who put it there and then said some generic athlete interview stuff about how that was all in the past and now him and Adam working together trying to get a ring with the Lakers and whatnot.

Then when everyone was talking to Morrison I asked him about Farmar's comments and if he had any idea who put the picture up (like it wasn't obvious): (skip ahead to 0:34 in the video for my question):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BVscQhG7-M

He says that Farmar is obviously the prime suspect and that he knew he'd get some flack for that coming to LA and that it was all in good fun. He seems pretty mellow about it, seemed pretty detached during the whole interview actually. He's been made fun of for crying so much in the past three years that ever since then he's been acting like an emotionless zombie.

I really hope Morrison will work out well in LA and reached the potential that everyone thought he'd achieve when he was picked first round by the Bobcats.

[gogetter0587]

Yes a make up call at its best. The game should have been over after TJ Ford hit that shot. Instead the refs made two TWO bad calls and the pacers won. I mean seriously the call on Danny was the same thing. BOTH of the calls were absolutely terrible.

Fact is Bron scored 47 and his team lost. His team needs to play some better defense or else.

[gogetter0587]

I really hope Morrison will work out well in LA and reached the potential that everyone thought he'd achieve when he was picked first round by the Bobcats.

Well in order to meet his potential he better find somewhere else to call home cause he will at best be a 7th man in LA. That wasn't quite what people were expecting out of the college superstar.

[Raiden]

Well in order to meet his potential he better find somewhere else to call home cause he will at best be a 7th man in LA. That wasn't quite what people were expecting out of the college superstar.

I think not being the go-to guy in LA may actually help him focus on playing better. Besides, Lakers have a great second unit and if he can help make that unit even better, then Lakers have made a good trade for him.

[Mister J]

No way. Granger hip-checked LeBron out of the way on the first call, while LeBron jumped straight up for the ball on the second call. The pass on the second call came up short. LeBron didn't even have to move horizontally to get the ball. LeBron did not commit a foul. Pure and simple.
Granger may have committed a foul in the strictest sense of the rulebook, but I was shocked that they called it.
Neither call was necessary, but it was clear to everyone watching the game that the second call was a make-up call.
I see what you're driving at, DD, but they both looked in the same realm of bad to me. Given how touchy the Granger foul was, the call on James didn't surprise. I'm with you in that neither was necessary.

[Ghostvirus]

So is Amare in Chicago yet? I really hope that if this trade does happen. That they can Keep Tyrus. Put Amare & Tyrus together & you got a good Defensive/Offensive middle.

[Go Web Go!]

So is Amare in Chicago yet? I really hope that if this trade does happen. That they can Keep Tyrus. Put Amare & Tyrus together & you got a good Defensive/Offensive middle.

They're not keeping Thomas if they acquire Amare. Steve Kerr hasn't made very good moves, but he's not THAT stupid.

[gogetter0587]

Thomas is the key essential in the trade with chicago if it happens. Aint happening without Thomas involved.

[Mister J]

Apparently, that recent road swing, where he put up 15/10, really sold Phoenix.

Thomas, Sefolosha, Gooden's expiring and Simmons' expiring is what I've mostly heard. Maybe a draft pick. Perhaps Phoenix sends back a small expiring for someone unimportant, like Amundson, to account for roster spots.

Paxson needs to do what he can to make that happen. Portland seems to have Aldridge, Bayless and LaFrentz' expring on the table.

[Ghostvirus]

I suppose a Noah/Amare combo wouldn't be to bad. I just like Tyrus so much. I would miss him. I don't like them getting Rid of Gooden either.:csad:

[Mister J]

No pain, no gain, MC.

Rose/Gordon/Deng/Amare/Noah. That ain't bad at all; could make a push after the break and be trouble.

Even if they don't resign Gordon (which I'm not seeing, given the contract talks leading up to this year), Hinrich is still there. I suppose he could play a little 2.
Oh yeah, Larry Hughes is still there too. :sleepy:

[Silver Knight]

I still think Amare will end up in Portland. Hopefully.

[Ziggyman]

What a game for Bargnani, Ukic and J-Kap...

Raps beat the Spurs 91-89!

Ukic took Parker to school!

[Silver Knight]

Every Spurs loss puts a :) on my face.

[Double Down]

From Rotoworld.com:
Mo Williams hit 18-of-26 shots and seven 3-pointers on his way to a career-high 44 points in Wednesday's win over the Suns.

He also had seven assists, three steals and a block on the same day he was named as a replacement for Chris Bosh on the All-Star team.

[Go Web Go!]

Those Suns are falling apart before our eyes.

[Silver Knight]

Suns are horrible. I see BIG changes coming for that team.

[Mister J]

Jesus, Mo.

I'm guessing Barbosa and Richardson took turns getting roasted.

[Silver Knight]

Mo was motivated tonite no doubt. Good for him.

[Bunker]

Those Suns are falling apart before our eyes.
It's pretty sad actually. They used to be soooooooooo exciting to watch with Marion, Nash, Amare, Johnson, Barbosa, etc.

For shame.

[Silver Knight]

It's pretty sad actually. They used to be soooooooooo exciting to watch with Marion, Nash, Amare, Johnson, Barbosa, etc.

For shame.
04-05 Suns FTW!

[Ziggyman]

04-05 Suns FTW!

...But they lost dammit!!!

WHHHYYYY!!!!!!

[Go Web Go!]

It's pretty sad actually. They used to be soooooooooo exciting to watch with Marion, Nash, Amare, Johnson, Barbosa, etc.

For shame.

Yeah, and then they hired an analyst as their GM.

[Ziggyman]

Yeah, and then they hired an analyst as their GM.

Cuz my Raps took Colangelo from them...!!!

[Silver Knight]

...But they lost dammit!!!

WHHHYYYY!!!!!!
They were so close to beating the Spurs. If I remeber correctly Amare was killing it in that series scoreing like 40ppg then went know with the knee injury.

[Ziggyman]

And then...They were close to beating the Spurs a few years later...But Amare got suspended for a game when Horry hit Nash...!

[Silver Knight]

And then...They were close to beating the Spurs a few years later...But Amare got suspended for a game when Horry hit Nash...!
Yeapp, Stern wanted the Spurs to win that and indeed they did.

[Mister J]

Has anyone heard Cleveland being in the running for the Amare sweepstakes? I ask because I just read something, which could be complete crap, about Portland now being out and it being down to the Cavs and Bulls.

I suppose something with Sczerbiak, Varajeo could suffice (the Suns would dump s longer term, small dollar contract), but I think the rumored Portland offer is better. I also thought I had a fair handle on what teams were being kicked around the rumor mill.
Yeapp, Stern wanted the Spurs to win that and indeed they did.
Yeah. Stern wanted the Spurs to win, so they could advance deep in the playoffs and continue to draw pedestrian ratings. So, his insidious plan was to not overturn a well-known rule, which carries an automatic suspension, that had been in place for over a decade. Makes perfect sense. :sleepy:

[Double Down]

Do I dare dream? Amare is exactly what the Cavs need.

[Ziggyman]

Don't think he wants to be second fiddle anymore...I call this...T-Mac-itis!

[Nightmare]

Yeapp, Stern wanted the Spurs to win that and indeed they did.

Amare should of been smarter then running out on the court like he was gonna do something.

[Silver Knight]

Has anyone heard Cleveland being in the running for the Amare sweepstakes? I ask because I just read something, which could be complete crap, about Portland now being out and it being down to the Cavs and Bulls.

I suppose something with Sczerbiak, Varajeo could suffice (the Suns would dump s longer term, small dollar contract), but I think the rumored Portland offer is better. I also thought I had a fair handle on what teams were being kicked around the rumor mill.

Yeah. Stern wanted the Spurs to win, so they could advance deep in the playoffs and continue to draw pedestrian ratings. So, his insidious plan was to not overturn a well-known rule, which carries an automatic suspension, that had been in place for over a decade. Makes perfect sense. :sleepy:
Shut up. He could have easly over turned the call.

[Etienne]

Ukic took Parker to school!
Well I wouldn't go that far. That one was there for the taking, the big three just didn't get any help.
Every Spurs loss puts a :) on my face.
:cmad:

[Ziggyman]

Well I wouldn't go that far. That one was there for the taking, the big three just didn't get any help.

:cmad:

I know what your saying there man...But...No Bosh, no Calderon...One of very few highlights this season for my Raps...

[Silver Knight]

Well I wouldn't go that far. That one was there for the taking, the big three just didn't get any help.

:cmad:
lol.

[Dr. Evil]

hmm.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11268371

[Etienne]

I know what your saying there man...But...No Bosh, no Calderon...One of very few highlights this season for my Raps...
*sigh* Yeah I hear you, it was an impressive win for the Raps. Those guys played with a ton of confidence. :up:
lol.
:hehe: I couldn't just let that one go.

[Nightmare]

hmm.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11268371


So much for Brooklyn.

[Mister J]

Do I dare dream? Amare is exactly what the Cavs need.
It's pretty scary.
Don't think he wants to be second fiddle anymore...I call this...T-Mac-itis!
Ahh. Then we can expect him to be miserably blowing dunks and forever fearing the specter of injury in a few years. There's a decent chance of a press conference, complete with crying, to boot.

Stoudemire's continued statements about wanting to be the focal point aside, a legit shot at a title might get him to shut up ...unless until his opt-out date ...which is plenty of time for Cleveland to menace the league. Man.
Amare should of been smarter then running out on the court like he was gonna do something.
This manages to escape some people.
Shut up. He could have easly over turned the call.
Brilliant retort.
Well I wouldn't go that far. That one was there for the taking, the big three just didn't get any help.

When I saw the box score earlier, the first thing that stuck out was Ginobili with 32, so I figured Mr. Longoria stunk it up, but he went for 22. At that point, I guessed that TD surprisingly didn't come to play. Nope, he went for 20/13/7. They only got 15 points from everyone else. Ridiculous.

J. O'Neal with a rough night from the field, but those 10 boards and 6 blocks would be most welcome on one particular team I know of. :hyper:

My word. I've gone into a full-blown, impromptu Jermaine Watch. I need a hobby.

[Silver Knight]

hmm.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11268371
Intresting.

[Etienne]

Brilliant retort.
Still??? People are still saying Stern wanted the Spurs to win? :funny: You'd think by now they'd realize that Stern is not particularly fond of the Spurs.
When I saw the box score earlier, the first thing that stuck out was Ginobili with 32, so I figured Mr. Longoria stunk it up, but he went for 22. At that point, I guessed that TD surprisingly didn't come to play. Nope, he went for 20/13/7. They only got 15 points from everyone else. Ridiculous.

That did it. :(

[Mister J]

hmm.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11268371
They play their games in a sparsely populated, antiquated building known now as the IZOD Center.My God! How was I not aware of this name change? :lmao:

At any rate, I'd like to see a team back in Seattle. There's good history there.

[Silver Knight]

Brilliant retort.


Whats retort? Is that some new word or something?

[Double Down]

Check out this frivolous lawsuit

Former Clippers GM Baylor sues team, NBA
By BETH HARRIS – 44 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Elgin Baylor, the former Los Angeles Clippers general manager who left the team last fall after 22 years, has sued the franchise, the NBA and team owner Donald Sterling alleging employment discrimination.
Baylor's attorney, Carl Douglas, said the lawsuit was filed Wednesday in Los Angeles Superior Court.
Baylor plans to hold a news conference Thursday to discuss the lawsuit, which also names club president Andy Roeser, Douglas said in a fax sent Wednesday.
The lawsuit maintains that Baylor was "discriminated against and unceremoniously released from his position with the team on account of his age and his race" and that he was "grossly underpaid during his tenure with the Clippers, never earning more than $350,000 per year, when compared with the compensation scheme for general managers employed by every other team in the NBA."
The NBA is named in the lawsuit, according to Douglas' fax, as "a joint venturer/partner of condoning, adopting and ratifying this discriminatory practice since the league is fully aware of salaries paid to all of the general managers."
Clippers attorney Robert H. Platt said in a statement Wednesday night that he had not seen the lawsuit and couldn't comment on Baylor's specific allegations.
"However, I can categorically state that the Clippers always treated Elgin fairly throughout his long tenure with the team. Prior to his decision to leave the team last October, Elgin never raised any claims of unfair treatment," Platt said.
"It's hard to believe that he would now make these ridiculous claims after the organization stood by him during 22 years and only three playoff appearances. It would be hard to find any sports team that has demonstrated greater loyalty to its general manager."
Sterling expressed surprise and disappointment when informed of the lawsuit after the Clippers beat the New York Knicks 128-124 in overtime Wednesday night.
"I can't imagine because Elgin has always been very, very close to me," the owner said in the team's locker room. "He's a fabulous person. I think there's some mistake."
Baylor became vice president of basketball operations with the Clippers in 1986 after an outstanding 14-year playing career with the Lakers and a brief stint as coach of the New Orleans Jazz.
He was inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame in 1976, chosen as one of the NBA's 50 greatest players during the league's 50th anniversary celebration in 1997, and named the NBA executive of the year following the 2005-06 season.
The Clippers have been one of the NBA's least successful franchises over the years and last made the playoffs in 2005-06, when they lost in the second round.
Coach Mike Dunleavy, now in his sixth season in Los Angeles, added Baylor's GM duties after the Hall of Famer's departure three weeks before the season began, while Neil Olshey was promoted to assistant general manager. At the time, Dunleavy said Baylor had resigned.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gTeVU0_R2B4vgKN1KaR_5qLrlJNwD969SLB80

[Mister J]

Sterling's utter refusal to spend money caused a lot of problems for the Clippers, but most of Baylor's personnel moves didn't exactly help matters. His dismissal could have been handled much better, but ...it's the Clippers. At any rate, I'm not seeing 22 years on the job, being a perennial league doormat, and getting fired as somehow related to discrimination. You think if he felt his paycheck was a little short, he would have left at some point.

Elgin Baylor is one of the most ridiculously talented (and underappreciated) players in league history, but his tenure as a GM, regardless of that EotY award, was nothing memorable.

[Silver Knight]

Seems the Blazers have cooled off on Amare and now want a PG.

Conley anyone?

[gogetter0587]

Seems the Blazers have cooled off on Amare and now want a PG.

Conley anyone?


WHAT???? a PG.

Have you seen Jared Bayless play lately? He is not the only PG on that team either. Conley is no better than Bayless and Bayless has more potential. If anything they should get a PG with experience and leadership not some guy who hasn't played all that much for a Horrible Team.

They have young talented rising players at all 5 positions and on the bench they need to trade some of it away and get some experience and leadership before those guys start leaving for better contracts which is likely to happen very soon.

[Silver Knight]

Its news everywhere. The Blazers are seeking a PG. I wonder who if anyone they will get.

[Raiden]

I think Lakers got complacent against a short-handed Jazz team, and that's why they lost. Their defense was also atrocious after stellar performance against Celtics and Cavs. However, I think a loss may do them good in the long run, so in the long break up ahead they can mull over things that they should've improved in the 2nd half of the season.

[Go Web Go!]

WHAT???? a PG.

Have you seen Jared Bayless play lately? He is not the only PG on that team either. Conley is no better than Bayless and Bayless has more potential. If anything they should get a PG with experience and leadership not some guy who hasn't played all that much for a Horrible Team.



But Conley is Oden's best friend :whatever:

[Mister J]

I think Lakers got complacent against a short-handed Jazz team, and that's why they lost. Their defense was also atrocious after stellar performance against Celtics and Cavs. However, I think a loss may do them good in the long run, so in the long break up ahead they can mull over things that they should've improved in the 2nd half of the season.
SLC is always a tought place to play, even more so if Utah manages to pull itself together.

Deron Williams has been stellar as of late. It seems every time I look up over the last week, he's got 30/10.

[Dr. Evil]

Is it really that hard for the Nets to move to Newark? That arena is new. The Devils play there.

[Go Web Go!]

That's what I've always maintained. Is it really necessary for an NBA & NHL team in the same area to have separate arenas? Share a damn stadium.

[Docker2.0]

Look at me Go! Look at me!


Hahaha! Sorry. Had a Eddie Curry gay moment with his driver flashblack! :csad: He said he's coming back after the All-star break.

[Nightmare]

That eddy curry story will never get old.

"Dave look at me, come touch it dave"

[Silver Knight]

Mavs beating the C's so far with ease.

[Nightmare]

The Nets and Mavericks have discussed a trade that would send Vince Carter to Dallas, a league source familiar with the discussions said Thursday night.

The proposed deal, which isn’t imminent, would send Carter, Keyon Dooling and Eduardo Najera to the Mavericks for Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse.

The San Antonio Spurs are also pursuing Carter and have discussed a proposal that would include Roger Mason, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto.

For the Nets, dealing Carter would be a financial move.

[Silver Knight]

Intresting trade. Doubt it will go down though.

[Nightmare]

Also doubt it goes down, just another one of the many rumors out there right now. Its kinda fun.

I just turned this game on, 3 techinals? What happend

[Ziggyman]

Interesting...(Had to, hehehe)

...Anyone who gets Carter will get jipped!

[Go Web Go!]

A good game from Shawn Marion? Including the game winner? I'll be a monkey's uncle. If only he played the way he did tonight on a consistent basis I wouldn't have to chase him out of town with a flaming pitchfork. Good game from the Bease as well. A win is what this team needed heading into the break.

As far as Carter goes, who in their right mind would want to take on the rest of his contract? The Spurs know better than that. Dallas, not so much. They love the big name. See "Jason Kidd"

[Docker2.0]

The Spurs would be crazy to deal Mason. He's much younger than Carter and he has saved their asses a couple of times this year. Not to mention VC has no heart. :o Deal him to Miami where he fits right in. :up:

[Silver Knight]

A good game from Shawn Marion? Including the game winner? I'll be a monkey's uncle. If only he played the way he did tonight on a consistent basis I wouldn't have to chase him out of town with a flaming pitchfork. Good game from the Bease as well. A win is what this team needed heading into the break.

As far as Carter goes, who in their right mind would want to take on the rest of his contract? The Spurs know better than that. Dallas, not so much. They love the big name. See "Jason Kidd"
I thought of you the instant I read Matrix hit the game winner.

[Go Web Go!]

Ha. Weirdly enough, you're not the first person to tell me that. ;)

[Nightmare]

Damn, pierce is clutch

[Silver Knight]

LOL at the Mavs blowing a 15 point lead.

[Etienne]

The Nets and Mavericks have discussed a trade that would send Vince Carter to Dallas, a league source familiar with the discussions said Thursday night.

The proposed deal, which isn’t imminent, would send Carter, Keyon Dooling and Eduardo Najera to the Mavericks for Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse.
You'd think Dallas would have to give up more than an aging 34 year old and a "troubled" Howard.
The San Antonio Spurs are also pursuing Carter and have discussed a proposal that would include Roger Mason, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto.
I heard about that last week, I hope it doesn't go through. I seriously doubt the Spurs would give up their top perimeter defender, and a straight up shooter in Mason for Carter. If the Spurs go through with any trade it will most likely be with Sacramento. They have their eyes on Salmons and Miller.

[LastSunrise1981]

LOL at the Mavs blowing a 15 point lead.

LOL at the poster who is a fan of every NBA team and is sporting a wrestling avatar that stopped being cool in 2000. :wow:

In any event, can't say I'm surprised about the loss. At least we put up a decent fight I suppose. Definitely would've loved to have a victory over the defending champions. But can't win them all right?

As for the possibility of getting Vince Carter? I'm completely against it. If Vince still had his leaping and scoring ability? Possibly. But right now? No. He has nothing to offer, his offense is inconsistent, and he definitely doesn't play any defense. What happened to Jason Terry? Before I left for the Friday the 13th employee preview I saw he wasn't on the court.

[Nightmare]

LOL at the poster who is a fan of every NBA team.

:lmao:

[Go Web Go!]

What happened to Jason Terry? Before I left for the Friday the 13th employee preview I saw he wasn't on the court.

I reckon he's out for a few weeks with a fractured hand.

[Silver Knight]

Wow... just wow.

Anyways hope JJ wins the H-O-R-S-E contest.

[Ghostvirus]

The Nets and Mavericks have discussed a trade that would send Vince Carter to Dallas, a league source familiar with the discussions said Thursday night.

The proposed deal, which isn’t imminent, would send Carter, Keyon Dooling and Eduardo Najera to the Mavericks for Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse.

The San Antonio Spurs are also pursuing Carter and have discussed a proposal that would include Roger Mason, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto.

For the Nets, dealing Carter would be a financial move.

Hmmmm....Strokes Beard.

[Ghostvirus]

So like is the NWO back in the WWE or something Silver Knight?

[Nightmare]

nWo has been dead for years.

[Silver Knight]

So like is the NWO back in the WWE or something Silver Knight?
No just remebering the good old days when I was a young lad thats all.
nWo has been dead for years.
nWo was and will always be the best stable in pro wrestling.

[Go Web Go!]

...until they branched out & ran out of people to add.

The Spurs, Rockets, Mavericks and Cavaliers are among the teams interested in Vince Carter. One scenario has Carter going to Houston in a package that includes Ron Artest's expiring contract. Dallas has dangled Jerry Stackhouse and parts, but unless one part is Josh Howard it makes little basketball sense. -- Bergen Record

Really, Houston? You already have one of the NBA's biggest choke artists on your team. Are you really looking to acquire another one? Ever watch McGrady & Carter in Toronto, Houston? I know they're just rumors, but some of them boggle my mind.

[Go Web Go!]

Here's the latest on Amare:

PHOENIX – As the Miami Heat continue their pursuit of All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire, Heat president Pat Riley has enlisted the Memphis Grizzlies to be a third-team facilitator with the Phoenix Suns, league sources said Thursday night.

The proposed multiplayer trade is fluid, but the framework would include the Suns receiving a package that includes Miami forward Shawn Marion and Grizzlies forward Rudy Gay. Miami would send rookie Michael Beasley to the Grizzlies. More players would be needed to balance out salary-cap rules.


“Miami knows that they can’t get this done directly with Phoenix,” one league executive said. “The big thing is that they know the Suns like Gay.”

Suns owner Robert Sarver directly called Memphis’ Michael Heisley to discuss trade possibilities between the two teams. The Memphis Commercial Appeal reported that the Grizzlies rejected a Suns’ proposal of Gay, forward Hakim Warrick and point guard Mike Conley for Stoudemire. It also reported the possibility of a three-way discussion.


Before the 2008 NBA draft, the Grizzlies tried hard to trade up to get Miami’s No. 2 pick to draft Beasley. The teams never came to terms, and Memphis ultimately worked the draft-day O.J. Mayo-Kevin Love trade. Gay hasn’t meshed well with Mayo, who took over as the Grizzlies’ top scorer.

For the Suns, Marion’s possible return would be an ironic turn of events. The Suns traded him to Miami one year ago for Shaquille O’Neal, and now, he’s attractive because of his expiring contract. The Heat have tried to shop Marion to bring back a strong low-post player, and have tried to get teams to take guard Marcus Banks with him, sources said.


The Heat believe they could sign Amare Stoudemire to a long-term extension before he has the ability to become a free agent in the summer of 2010. Phoenix seems determined to move Stoudemire before Thursday’s trade deadline. As the Suns try to change a failing chemistry, they’ve found a league that isn’t interested in taking Shaquille O’Neal and his contract.

The Portland Trail Blazers also have discussed a trade for Stoudemire, and sources said they have offered the expiring contract of Raef LaFrentz and rookie point guard Jerryd Bayless. The Chicago Bulls also continue to talk with the Suns about Stoudemire.



-Yahoo

[Silver Knight]

Here's the latest on Amare:



-Yahoo
Hope this trade happens!

[Go Web Go!]

I don't. Regardless of whether they acquire Amare or Jermaine O'Neal, the Heat aren't better than a 4 seed - not this year & probably not next year, and they'd be getting rid of a 20 year old kid who's their second leading scorer and has a hell of a lot more range than Amare. Everyone knows I'm all for sending Marion on his way, but Beasley? Hell to the no.

[Go Web Go!]

PER ESPNEWS:

Jermaine O'Neal & Jamario Moon to Miami for Marion & Banks

YESSSSSS!

[Mister J]

Raptors Acquire Marion From Heat (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3905146)
The Toronto Raptors have agreed to send Jermaine O'Neal and Jamario Moon to the Miami Heat in exchange for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks, league sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

The deal is pending league approval, according to league sources.
Thank Zeus. Beasley stays. :applaud

[Mister J]

Hopefully, O'Neal's knees continue to hold, adding a much needed post presence and defensive prowess, and Moon can prove a viable starter at the 3 while Jones continues to work his way back.

At the very least, the albatross of Marcus Banks' contract is gone, freeing up another ~5M in 2010 and Jermaine is a huge expiring next year if this goes horribly awry.

Hell of a last play for Marion to go out on. I really think Toronto will be better for him, if they're talking about playing at a higher pace with Calderon pushing things.