Official 2008-09 NBA Thread

[Bunker]

I wish Big Baby would send my hat catapaulting. :(

[Darthphere]

I mean, imagine the poor kid. It's already embarrassing enough, now your dad is making it worse. Therapy I see in his future.

[Mister J]

That kid won't be able to wear a hat around any of his friends until the end of summer. His dad is placing all kinds of a target on his back.

[Raiden]

That kid's dad is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[Etienne]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4158987
Nuggets' Martin: I'll talk with Cuban

A day after Mother's Day, Kenyon Martin lobbed a verbal salvo to Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban in defense of his own.

Martin, whose mother was verbally confronted by Cuban after Saturday night's game, said he was going to "take care of it" as early as Monday night, as the Nuggets looked to sweep the Mavericks in their second-round playoff series.

"I don't feel I need to call his name in the media and all that, but it's a little personal," Martin said after the Nuggets' shootaround in Dallas, according to a report on The Denver Post's Web site. "And I'm going to take care of it."

The incident, during which Cuban referred to Martin as a "thug" or a "punk," according to an earlier report in The Post, was part of a raucous postgame scene the NBA said it was reviewing.

Cuban told the Denver newspaper by e-mail that as he walked off the court after the Mavericks' Saturday night loss in Dallas, he saw Martin's mother, Lydia Moore, as a fan was yelling that the Nuggets were "thugs."
"That includes your son," Cuban said to Moore, according to his e-mail to The Post.

Martin's agent, Brian Dyke, had a different take on the incident, The Post reported. According to Dyke, an unprovoked Cuban told Moore, "Your son is a punk."

Neither scenario amused Martin.

"Don't say nothing to my kids or my family," Martin said, according to The Post. "If you got something to say, say it to me. But I'm going to take care of it. I'm not going to do the whole media thing, back and forth. That's his thing. I'm more of a face-to-face type of dude."

"So whenever the opportunity presents itself, then I will address it. But I got a game to go win. At some point I will, but I got a game to go win, first and foremost. So that's my focus and concentration right now."

Asked if he thought the confrontation was Cuban's way of trying to get under the Nuggets' skin, Martin said yes.

"That's what he's trying to do, but it ain't going to work," Martin said, according to the newspaper. "I'm focused on what we need to do as a team. That's what I'm here to do. But if other things present themselves along the way then you got to address them. And this is one of those situations. I don't back away from nobody except the law."

Martin said he had not experienced anything like this during his nine-year career in the NBA.

"Nobody in his position, not at all," Martin said. "But of course, a college game where people in the stands are saying stuff to your family, that's fine and dandy, during the course of the game. But when the game is over, you don't say nothing to nobody's parents; especially mine. My mom or my kids, you don't have no words for them. I'll take care of it."

[Mister J]

Mmm Hmm. :ninja:

You know, it probably wouldn't take much provocation for Kenyon to deck Cuban's ass. Stern's office has probably already forwarded something to the Nuggets cautioning (demanding) for cooler heads to prevail in this thing. However, if Ol' Cubes really wants to get under the Nuggets' skin, entice Martin to take a swipe at him. He'll get bounced for a game or two. How much do you want to help the team, Mark? :o

Btw, Kenyon would have every right to knock Cuban on his 2.3B dollar ass, IMO. This is bush league.

[Immortalfire]

Martin, whose mother was verbally confronted by Cuban after Saturday night's game, said he was going to "take care of it" as early as Monday night, as the Nuggets looked to sweep the Mavericks in their second-round playoff series. Uh oh.

[JaD]

Uh oh.I hope he does like so.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/JAD51287/nba/gifs/kenyon-maggette.gif

And yes, I just made that. For the occasion that is, "Ohhh, so exciting." *shivers*

[Excel]

Uh oh.

Cubans a damn fool.

[Darthphere]

Kenyon Martin will gladly take a suspension for punching this dude out.

[Raiden]

Kenyon Martin will gladly take a suspension for punching this dude out.

Since the Nuggets are up 3-0 against the Mavs, I'm sure one or two game suspension won't hurt Denver's chance to wrap up the series anyway.

[Ghostvirus]

Even though that kids dad is milking the fame. He is right about the double standard.

I really, really, really, hope Martin punches out Cuban. That would be beautiful. Maybe that will shut his mouth up.

[LastSunrise1981]

I find it greatly amusing how everyone here hates Mark Cuban and in turn hates Dallas, hence why no one talks about them unless it's press involving something negative.

I, for one, happen to like Cuban and believe that unlike certain owners he actually has passion and is very hands on and is involved with his team. He cares about his players, cares about the team, and wants them to succeed in anyway possible. Hence why he probably comes off a bit overbearing because he's passionate, outspoken, and truly believes in what he's saying.


I guess people here and all over the world would prefer that Cuban be a bland, boring, and moronic owner who could careless about his teams status.

[Immortalfire]

Dang it :csad:

The championship is Cleveland's to lose.

See you guys at Hooters. :)

[NewYorkSpider]

Cavs sweep the Hawks. I really thought the Hawks would win a game at home.


As far as Cuban is concerned. His passion for the game is greatly respected, but sometimes he overreacts in a abrupt manner.

[Immortalfire]

He seems to think that the league refs are out to get him, and that they fix games.


LastSunrise is Mark Cuban! :eek:

[Darthphere]

That would not be shocking.

[Raiden]

Nice to know that I predicted Cavs to sweep the Hawks. :up: Right now I think Cavs are the team to beat, and even if Lakers made it to the Finals I think they will be the underdog; LeBron and the Cavs are playing like men on a mission and any team will be hard-pressed to defeat them in a 7 game series.

[LastSunrise1981]

He seems to think that the league refs are out to get him, and that they fix games.


LastSunrise is Mark Cuban! :eek:

:whatever:

It's incredibly amusing that mods feel the need to insult other posters.

Truth be told, if he thinks refs fix games then that's his opinion. Is it hurting you or making your life miserable? No? Then don't pay attention to him if that's the case.

As for my personal feelings about the game I do believe officials have agendas that benefit more popular teams. It's an issue that's been discussed and has been investigated. If it wasn't an issue then I'd suggest you watch documentaries with former NBA officials, former players, and etc that explain officials now have more freedom and are close to players, which was considered to be a big no no when the league was old school.

As for your comment about me being Mark Cuban? It wasn't funny nor was it creative. If anything I found it kind of childish since I don't agree with your views.

DWNAOYOn3vw

[NewYorkSpider]

That was a nice play by Nowitzki

[LegendaryCaleb]

man i hope we pull this one out...we got the lead finally!
go mavs!

[NewYorkSpider]

The 4th quarter has been pretty exciting.

[Go Web Go!]

man i hope we pull this one out...we got the lead finally!
go mavs!

Fan of multiple NBA teams? How does that work?

[LastSunrise1981]

Watching the game and I still believe we should've won the last game and if we win this we could've been tied.

Dirk with an airball? It's rare that happens in crunch time. How come Kenyon never guards Kobe like that? Kobe always seems to light his ass up. But in all honesty Dirk shouldn't be struggling with Martin anyways.

He should be posting low and abusing shorter defenders.

[Darthphere]

Watching the game and I still believe we should've won the last game and if we win this we could've been tied.

Dirk with an airball? It's rare that happens in crunch time. How come Kenyon never guards Kobe like that? Kobe always seems to light his ass up. But in all honesty Dirk shouldn't be struggling with Martin anyways.

He should be posting low and abusing shorter defenders.

:whatever:

[Darthphere]

Game ain't over yet.

[NewYorkSpider]

What a great shot by Carmelo.

[Darthphere]

Antoine better foul him good.

[Darthphere]

Now it's over. Looks like Kenyon found Mark Cuban there at the end.

[L.A.]

It's like having Dorrel Wright visit me at the hospital.
hahahahahaha:woot:

[LastSunrise1981]

Kenyon Martin still wasn't man enough to walk over there and say it to his face now. Why say it from a distance? Neither of them were in the right.

Instead of walking away and talking walk towards the man and say what you have to say. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Game 5 is going to be another tough game for Dallas and like Dirk said "We have nothing else to lose, so we're going to let it loose." Should've been letting everything loose from the beginning in all honesty.

[NewYorkSpider]

NBA Playoff Pool Standings:
1. Raiden - 92 Points (Picked the CLE/ATL series correctly)+6
2. Nightmare - 90 Points
3. L.A - 86 Points
3. Silver Knight - 86 Points
3. NewYorkSpider - 86 Points
6. Mister J - 84 Points
7. Go Web Go! - 74 Points
7. Bond - 74 Points
9. Ghostvirus - 72 Points

[Darthphere]

Kenyon Martin still wasn't man enough to walk over there and say it to his face now. Why say it from a distance? Neither of them were in the right.

Instead of walking away and talking walk towards the man and say what you have to say. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Game 5 is going to be another tough game for Dallas and like Dirk said "We have nothing else to lose, so we're going to let it loose." Should've been letting everything loose from the beginning in all honesty.

Dude are you serious? I counted like 3 cops surrounding Kenyon Martin. Kenyon Martin maybe crazy but he ain't stupid. And Mark Cuban was totally in the wrong here. K-Mart's momma wasn't even talking to him. It was completely unprovoked. You're the biggest Mavericks/Cuban apologist I've ever seen. It's sickening that you would defend a man for going after someone's momma like that.

[Etienne]

Confetti and streamers?

[Darthphere]

Confetti and streamers?

They apparently don't grasp the concept of a best of 7 series.

[L.A.]

I hope he does like so.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/JAD51287/nba/gifs/kenyon-maggette.gif

And yes, I just made that. For the occasion that is, "Ohhh, so exciting." *shivers*
What u didnt show the entire clip!!! Maggette punches Martin back!!!

[Go Web Go!]

Confetti and streamers?

Leftovers from the '06 Finals.

[LastSunrise1981]

Dude are you serious? I counted like 3 cops surrounding Kenyon Martin. Kenyon Martin maybe crazy but he ain't stupid. And Mark Cuban was totally in the wrong here. K-Mart's momma wasn't even talking to him. It was completely unprovoked. You're the biggest Mavericks/Cuban apologist I've ever seen. It's sickening that you would defend a man for going after someone's momma like that.

Oh please, I've seen you wish death on people in many threads. Don't get all high and mighty on me now.

What part of 'NEITHER OF THEM WERE IN THE RIGHT" don't you understand Darth? I never said what Cuban did was right. I did say he's outspoken, honest, and very passionate about his teams status but nowhere did I ever say I supported what he said to Kenyon's mother. What's sickening is you putting words in my mouth to reach your own conclusion.

If Kenyon was that pissed he could've walked over to Cuban and said face to face how he felt about the statement. The same goes for Cuban he could've called Kenyon a "thug" to his face instead of to his mother.

[Mister J]

Dude are you serious? I counted like 3 cops surrounding Kenyon Martin. Kenyon Martin maybe crazy but he ain't stupid. And Mark Cuban was totally in the wrong here. K-Mart's momma wasn't even talking to him. It was completely unprovoked. You're the biggest Mavericks/Cuban apologist I've ever seen. It's sickening that you would defend a man for going after someone's momma like that.
What you're not accounting for is the magnitude on manliness that Cuban showed by talking smack to Mama Martin. He pointed that finger directly at her and insulted her son and she ain't do nothing. It was inspiring; John Wayne-like. Kenyon has to match that kind of intensity or he's in the wrong too. :dry:

Confetti and streamers?

Leftovers from the '06 Finals.
:pal:

[Darthphere]

Oh please, I've seen you wish death on people in many threads. Don't get all high and mighty on me now.

Link to one time I've done that.

[LastSunrise1981]

Now with all of that said. Cleveland now has to wait for the winner of Boston/Orlando and I'm not going to say they're the team to beat either.

While they're depleted Boston is still the team to beat since they're the defending champions. It's going to be interesting since Cleveland has made short work out of both opponents. If Cleveland makes it to the championships I don't think they have enough to beat Los Angeles honestly.

[LastSunrise1981]

Link to one time I've done that.

I'm not going to go back and search for the posts. I've seen you say some very vicious things about other posters and have suggested said poster should "kill themselves".

If I'm not mistaken it got you banned for a while too. So I'd greatly appreciate it if you didn't get all high and mighty on me now.

[LastSunrise1981]

What you're not accounting for is the magnitude on manliness that Cuban showed by talking smack to Mama Martin. He pointed that finger directly at her and insulted her son and she ain't do nothing. It was inspiring; John Wayne-like. Kenyon has to match that kind of intensity or he's in the wrong too. :dry:




:pal:

:whatever:

Seriously, do you get off on bashing Dallas, the fans, and everything? Because I sincerely believe you have this agenda and this warped view into just blindly hating Dallas.

BOTH parties were in the wrong and I don't support Cuban's comments to Kenyon's mother. It's a shame that both are acting like children instead of grown men in this case. This whole "You say this to my mom" and Cuban saying what he said is so 1st grade.

[Darthphere]

I'm not going to go back and search for the posts. I've seen you say some very vicious things about other posters and have suggested said poster should "kill themselves".

If I'm not mistaken it got you banned for a while too. So I'd greatly appreciate it if you didn't get all high and mighty on me now.

Suggesting someone kill themselves (in a hyperbolic manner) is not the same as wishing death on someone. It's representative language. I hope you understood that.

[LastSunrise1981]

Suggesting someone kill themselves (in a hyperbolic manner) is not the same as wishing death on someone. It's representative language. I hope you understood that.

Oh.

So that makes it okay to say that too then right? Because people do commit suicide. In this case it is wishing death on someone because you're wishing that person to take their own life. I hope you understood that.

I'm through arguing with you.

[Darthphere]

Oh.

So that makes it okay to say that too then right? Because people do commit suicide. In this case it is wishing death on someone because you're wishing that person to take their own life. I hope you understood that.

I'm through arguing with you.

Are you? Really? You sure?

If I told you, Hey go jump off a bridge! Is that the same as saying I hope LastSunrise dies?

And when did this become about me, lol? Like something said on the internet is really the same as some coward yelling at some dude's mom.

[Etienne]

TNT said someone dumped beer or some other kind of beverage on Kenyon Martin's mom, Barkley said they continued to harass her and his girlfriend.

They also said Cuban will be a no show for game 5.

[Darthphere]

TNT said someone dumped beer or some other kind of beverage on Kenyon Martin's mom, Barkley said they continued to harass her and his girlfriend.

They also said Cuban will be a no show for game 5.

At tonight's game? Wow.

[Etienne]

I was wondering what all the commotion was after the game. I saw a few people in the stands all looking in one direction.

[Mister J]

TNT said someone dumped beer or some other kind of beverage on Kenyon Martin's mom, Barkley said they continued to harass her and his girlfriend.
Classy. :rolleyes:

[Nightmare]

Congrats to dallas fans for that 1 win. Just to think the series could be tied if the refs didnt blow it.

[LegendaryCaleb]

Fan of multiple NBA teams? How does that work?
born in detroit but didnt like the pistons so when my family watched the nba(when i was like 5) there were two teams i always said i liked....suns and cavs...i eventually hated the suns and always kept up with the cavaliers...like im not a super fan of the cavaliers...i just want them to win...
as for the mavs...moved right near dallas with my family when i was 11 or so and my older brother got me hooked on the mavericks since i started taking sports more serious...mavs started to play great the year after i began watching too...im a fan of the mavericks and cheering for the cavaliers as well

[LegendaryCaleb]

Confetti and streamers?
they do that after every playoff victory....so it isnt anything new....

[Ghostvirus]

TNT said someone dumped beer or some other kind of beverage on Kenyon Martin's mom, Barkley said they continued to harass her and his girlfriend.

They also said Cuban will be a no show for game 5.

Wow.:dry:

Once again. I would like someone to give me a reason why I should not hate Mav fans & Cuban.

& of course Cuban ain't going to be at game 5 it is in Denver. What a little b**ch!:whatever:

[Go Web Go!]

Cuban figured he'd stay in Dallas to get a head start on his summer vacation.

[Mister J]

They should bring back Celebrity Boxing to settle this. :hehe:

[Go Web Go!]

...or have a Royal Rumble-type match. I'm sure there are 29 other competitors that would gladly take Cuban on.

[KALEL114]

Wow.:dry:

Once again. I would like someone to give me a reason why I should not hate Mav fans & Cuban.

& of course Cuban ain't going to be at game 5 it is in Denver. What a little b**ch!:whatever:

That's pretty harsh. Now, I don't condone what the fans have done, but you can't tell me stuff like that doesn't happen in every Professional team sport around the country. Fans who are passionate about their team plus add alcohol, more times than not, they find a relative or girlfriend to heckle.

As far as Cuban goes, a huge majority of people here in Dallas (including myself) are fed up with his behavior. He apologized today for everything, but it shouldn't have gone to this point in the first place.

That's pretty much all I'll say about the matter.
As far as the series goes, I'm looking forward to game 5. Should be exciting.

[Go Web Go!]

From Marky Mark's blog --

So at this point I would like to apologize to you and your mom KMart for my comment. I should have not said anything and I was wrong. Hopefully you will accept the apology and we can move on.

When the series comes back to Dallas, your family, and the family of other Nuggets players are welcome to stay in my suite, with my family. Its amazing how tempers mellow when real people talk to each other and realize that its still just a game.

If that isn’t acceptable, I’m happy to provide a suite, free of charge to them as well and place whatever security is needed to make them feel comfortable.

[Darthphere]

Wow, that sounds sincere.....

I like the part where he says "When the series comes back to Dallas..." oh Mark.

[Go Web Go!]

That's what I thought, but didn't want to say anything in the case that he's lurking on the boards.

[LastSunrise1981]

Wow.:dry:

Once again. I would like someone to give me a reason why I should not hate Mav fans & Cuban.

& of course Cuban ain't going to be at game 5 it is in Denver. What a little b**ch!:whatever:

So every Dallas fan is like that? :whatever:

But yes, I do agree that was really tasteless. The fact they didn't send those fans out or ban them from future Dallas games is just mindblowing. You shouldn't hate Cuban, he didn't tell them to dump beer or harass her in Dallas.

But now it appears this thing has settled, Cuban has apologized, and it's about time. This thing was turning into a childish banter of first grade proportions.

[LastSunrise1981]

That's pretty harsh. Now, I don't condone what the fans have done, but you can't tell me stuff like that doesn't happen in every Professional team sport around the country. Fans who are passionate about their team plus add alcohol, more times than not, they find a relative or girlfriend to heckle.

As far as Cuban goes, a huge majority of people here in Dallas (including myself) are fed up with his behavior. He apologized today for everything, but it shouldn't have gone to this point in the first place.

That's pretty much all I'll say about the matter.
As far as the series goes, I'm looking forward to game 5. Should be exciting.

To be perfectly honest I'm not really fed up with him. I find him to be an owner who cares about his team, his players, passionate, and is very involved with how his team progresses. Not saying I agree with everything he's said, but he's definitely unlike any owner in the NBA. Show me one owner who is as passionate, outspoken, and hungers for winning than Cuban.

Most owners just sit back and let their team get screwed over or just accept what it is. Cuban speaks his mind and I feel we should definitely appreciate what he's done for Dallas.

As for what the fans did? It was retarded, however, it's funny how everyone forgets the Detroit brawl, Boston fans sending death threats and hurling racial slurs to Jason Kidd and his wife at the time, and etc. Funny how Dallas fans get painted as monsters but it's okay if fans in Detroit brawl, throw beer at players, and try to attack players.

[Go Web Go!]

Funny how Dallas fans get painted as monsters but it's okay if fans in Detroit brawl, throw beer at players, and try to attack players.

Who said it's okay? Detroit got loads of heat for the brawl. Still does.

[Darthphere]

Yeah, I would not go to a Detroit game ever, even if they played here.

[LastSunrise1981]

Who said it's okay? Detroit got loads of heat for the brawl. Still does.

Yet no one on here mentioned that. I was the one who happened to mention the Detroit brawl, or as I said, Boston fans sending death threats and racial slurs to Jason Kidd, his wife at the time, and their kids during the heated ECF between New Jersey/Boston.

I truly feel it's wrong that everyone here hates Dallas and the fans just because of some stupid sayings by Cuban and a couple of idiotic fans.

And come on GWG, it's not like Miami is innocent here, they freaking had thousands of pictures that had David Hasselhoff in a freaking speedo! :oldrazz::csad::cmad:

[Darthphere]

Yet no one on here mentioned that.

Because Detroit isn't playing.:huh:

[LastSunrise1981]

Because Detroit isn't playing.:huh:

You know exactly what I mean. We're discussing classless acts by fans in the arenas and people on here seemed to forget Detroit, Boston fans, and even Utah fans to some extent. I just think it's very childish and wrong for everyone on here to hate the Mavs because of some chucklehead fans and for Cuban being too much of a loudmouth sometimes.

[Darthphere]

You know exactly what I mean. We're discussing classless acts by fans in the arenas and people on here seemed to forget Detroit, Boston fans, and even Utah fans to some extent. I just think it's very childish and wrong for everyone on here to hate the Mavs because of some chucklehead fans and for Cuban being too much of a loudmouth sometimes.

No, were discussing classless acts by Dallas fans. We're discussing a specific incident. You're trying to deflect attention by bringing stuff up irrelevant incidents.

[Go Web Go!]

You know exactly what I mean. We're discussing classless acts by fans in the arenas and people on here seemed to forget Detroit, Boston fans, and even Utah fans to some extent. I just think it's very childish and wrong for everyone on here to hate the Mavs because of some chucklehead fans and for Cuban being too much of a loudmouth sometimes.

I just think people are singling out the Mavericks because they're the most relevant/recent example of fans getting out of control. Yes, worse things have happened but those incidents aren't happening during this year's playoffs, so there's really no need to discuss them or compare them to what happened in Dallas.



And come on GWG, it's not like Miami is innocent here, they freaking had thousands of pictures that had David Hasselhoff in a freaking speedo! :oldrazz::csad::cmad:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/dw85/Chant.jpg

:cwink:

[LastSunrise1981]

No, were discussing classless acts by Dallas fans. We're discussing a specific incident. You're trying to deflect attention by bringing stuff up irrelevant incidents.

And you're trying to deflect attention by ignoring those "irrelevant incidents". They're not irrelevant since it involved fans doing classless acts as well. I'm not trying to deflect anything, I've acknowledged those fans in Dallas should be banned from ever attending another game. There is harmless harassing of the players and then there is crossing the line.

They crossed the line when it came to Kenyon's mother and Kenyon's girlfriend. I can guarantee it would've never happened if Cuban hadn't said what he said.

What's done is done and Dallas is going into a hostile enviornment where the fans are going to be fueling their team. I hope they're prepared and they have nothing to lose now.

[LastSunrise1981]

I just think people are singling out the Mavericks because they're the most relevant/recent example of fans getting out of control. Yes, worse things have happened but those incidents aren't happening during this year's playoffs, so there's really no need to discuss them or compare them to what happened in Dallas.



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/dw85/Chant.jpg

:cwink:

So when Dirk was shooting the free throws they didn't have the Hoff in a speedo picture? I could've sworn you and someone on here said they did. :o

[Darthphere]

And you're trying to deflect attention by ignoring those "irrelevant incidents". They're not irrelevant since it involved fans doing classless acts as well. I'm not trying to deflect anything, I've acknowledged those fans in Dallas should be banned from ever attending another game. There is harmless harassing of the players and then there is crossing the line.

They crossed the line when it came to Kenyon's mother and Kenyon's girlfriend. I can guarantee it would've never happened if Cuban hadn't said what he said.

What's done is done and Dallas is going into a hostile enviornment where the fans are going to be fueling their team. I hope they're prepared and they have nothing to lose now.

I'm not ignoring anything ass. We're discussing the Cuban/Martin/Mavs fans incidents. You're trying to excuse their behavior by bringing up the Brawl at the Palace and Celtics death threats to make it seem like this behavior is ok or even normal. Dude, stop being such an apologist. Those incidents are ugly, but we're not talking about those cases now. Sorry but all the focus is on the Mavs, their fans, and their blatant thuggery.

[Go Web Go!]

So when Dirk was shooting the free throws they didn't have the Hoff in a speedo picture? I could've sworn you and someone on here said they did. :o

I don't remember, but it's possible that they did. Maybe even up on the big screens. Could've been worse...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/zipthwapwombat/hassellhoffpuppies.jpg

:csad:

[Go Web Go!]

Sorry but all the focus is on the Mavs, their fans, and their blatant thuggery.

You sound like the Hawks' announcer :hehe:

[Darthphere]

You sound like the Hawks' announcer :hehe:

That was a flagrant! He wasn't going for the ball! He tried to hurt him!

[Immortalfire]

I just think people are singling out the Mavericks because they're the most relevant/recent example of fans getting out of control. Yes, worse things have happened but those incidents aren't happening during this year's playoffs, so there's really no need to discuss them or compare them to what happened in Dallas.



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/dw85/Chant.jpg

:cwink:
Ya can't go wrong with the Hasselhoff :up:

[Go Web Go!]

How about some lighter news, fellas?

WALTHAM, Mass. (AP) - Boston Celtics forward Glen Davis apologized Tuesday for bumping a 12-year-old boy while celebrating his game-winning shot against the Orlando Magic.

Davis said he got emotional and didn't see the boy as he turned and ran to the Celtics bench to celebrate his 21-foot jumper that gave the Celtics a 95-94 win over the Magic on Sunday. It tied the second-round playoff series at 2-2.

"If I've hurt anybody or if I've done any harm to anybody, please forgive me because my intentions were just harmless," he said.

Video of the play shows the 6-foot-9, 289-pound Davis ducking behind a referee and stepping out of bounds before appearing to place a hand in the small of the boy's back. The boy took a step back and his hat fell off.

If he had realized he made contact with the boy, Davis said he would have tried to make him feel better.

Ernest Provetti, the boy's father, wrote an e-mail to the NBA league office Monday calling Davis a "raging animal with no regard for fans' personal safety," according to the Orlando Sentinel.

"The NBA makes it clear to not cross the sideline," Provetti told the Sentinel. "If I cross that line, the NBA will take away my tickets. It's a double standard."

Later Monday, he told the Sentinel he reacted emotionally and would back off his demand for an apology.

The NBA had not responded to his e-mail, he said, but his Facebook page was flooded with nasty messages.

"In the scheme of things, I still think he shouldn't have went on the sideline, but obviously nothing is going to come of it," Provetti said. "And it's better to forget about it and not incite it anymore."

Game 5 is Tuesday night in Boston.

[Darthphere]

Hahahahahaha! Dude got rocked.

[Immortalfire]

Good to see that "raving lunatic" apologized. lol

[Mister J]

You sound like the Hawks' announcer :hehe:
Thuggery! The Heat have resorted to THUGGERY!

Ass.
How about some lighter news, fellas?
The NBA had not responded to his e-mail, he said, but his Facebook page was flooded with nasty messages.
God, I love the internet. :hehe:

[Silver Knight]

Awesome, he did indeed get rocked.

[Darthphere]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie

Melo's fiance and K-Mart's classy remarks in the link.

[Go Web Go!]

Makes me wish the Mavs would come back and force a game 7 just so we could get more soundbites and video.

[Mister J]

Damn La La. You kiss Stop Snitchin' with that mouth? :eek: :funny:

Oh, Kenyon. :nono:
"You got to come to Denver, *****!" As it turns out, not so much. :lmao:

[Malice]

Lakers are going to be down by a game after tonight!

[Raiden]

Lakers are going to be down by a game after tonight!

:cmad::cmad::cmad:



We'll see. :o

[Darthphere]

Makes me wish the Mavs would come back and force a game 7 just so we could get more soundbites and video.

Wouldn't it be game 6?

[Go Web Go!]

Well, yeah, but I meant stretch the series to 7.

[Ghostvirus]

That's pretty harsh. Now, I don't condone what the fans have done, but you can't tell me stuff like that doesn't happen in every Professional team sport around the country. Fans who are passionate about their team plus add alcohol, more times than not, they find a relative or girlfriend to heckle.

As far as Cuban goes, a huge majority of people here in Dallas (including myself) are fed up with his behavior. He apologized today for everything, but it shouldn't have gone to this point in the first place.

That's pretty much all I'll say about the matter.
As far as the series goes, I'm looking forward to game 5. Should be exciting.

The poster I quoted below me are the fans I am referring to. You seem pretty cool. I that statement was meant to be directed more at Cuban than the fans. I really wish Stern could fire him or something. He has pulled this sh** way to many times.

So every Dallas fan is like that? :whatever:

But yes, I do agree that was really tasteless. The fact they didn't send those fans out or ban them from future Dallas games is just mindblowing. You shouldn't hate Cuban, he didn't tell them to dump beer or harass her in Dallas.

But now it appears this thing has settled, Cuban has apologized, and it's about time. This thing was turning into a childish banter of first grade proportions.

[SpeterMan3]

I want the Celtics or Cavs to win... so much.

[Excel]

Come on Cs what are ya doing!

[LastSunrise1981]

I don't remember, but it's possible that they did. Maybe even up on the big screens. Could've been worse...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/zipthwapwombat/hassellhoffpuppies.jpg

:csad:

Ugh, why GWG? :csad::cmad:

[BlackLantern]

Gaze upon the Hoff and bask in his splendor

[Mister J]

Orlando can't hold a lead for ****. It's actually rather intriguing.

[Darthphere]

****ing Ray Allen.

[Darthphere]

Kevin Garnett is crazy......fun to watch.

[Mister J]

I love KG. He just refuses shut the **** up. :lmao:

[Darthphere]

I love KG. He just refuses shut the **** up. :lmao:

Oh man, seriously. I want streaming footage of him during the game. Just have a camera on him.

[Ghostvirus]

Kevin Garnett is crazy......fun to watch.

Actually the opposite. I really don't think I can continue watching Boston games if I have to keep seeing Garnett. Him & Cuban should start the d-bag club.

[Mister J]

Oh man, seriously. I want streaming footage of him during the game. Just have a camera on him.
The first thing I wanted to see after Big Baby hit the Game 4 shot was what KG was up to. I was screaming at the TV. Everyone else was congratulating Davis. Garnett meandered over as he taunted the Magic bench. Hilarious.

[Excel]

****ing Ray Allen.

Indeed. :word:

[Go Web Go!]

Ugh, why GWG? :csad::cmad:

Not a puppy person?

[Spider-Fan]

The Celtics are a hard team to kill. I don't see the Magic bouncing back after two bad losses. However, the Celtics will makes me nervous. My Cavs have yet to really be tested, and Cleveland teams always buckle under pressure, so I'm a bit nervous about playing Boston :csad:

[JaD]

Damn Houston is getting spanked :down

They better be ready to play in Houston.

[NewYorkSpider]

40 point lead for the Lakers. :o

[Spider-Fan]

Is anyone really shocked? Last game was an embarrassment for the Lakers, so I figured they'd be on fire tonight. Looks like I was right.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm not too surprised that Los Angeles is tossing Houston around. I just didn't think it would be by this much.

[Etienne]

I dislike Doug Collins, and I'm probably being too nice by saying that. :o

[Go Web Go!]

He's fine. The one I can't stand is Reggie Miller. Just because you were a former player doesn't mean you should be a broadcaster.

[NewYorkSpider]

NBA Playoff Pool Standings:
1. Raiden - 96 Points
2. Nightmare - 92 Points
3. L.A - 90 Points
3. Silver Knight - 90 Points
3. NewYorkSpider - 90 Points
6. Mister J - 88 Points
7. Bond - 78 Points
8. Go Web Go! - 76 Points
9. Ghostvirus - 74 Points

[Trainwreck2100]

these playoffs have sucked so much

[Go Web Go!]

Minus both series the Celtics have been in, yes, the playoffs have been unwatchable.

[Ghostvirus]

This place is dead. Where are all the posters!?s

[Nightmare]

lol @ lakers by 40.

JaD crying in his sleep :hehe:

[Raiden]

Very happy to see the Lakers not only won, but won big, after game 4 where they played as poorly as they could be. They also did not relinguished the lead like they often did in the past. I hope this style of basketball, where they out-hustled their opponent and played intensive defense, will continue rest of the way, and not just as a response to an embarrassing loss in Houston.

[JaD]

lol @ lakers by 40.

JaD crying in his sleep :hehe:Way to single me out there. :cmad:

:hehe: And no they won't be in the Finals anyways. :o

[RAMORE]

Damn Magic:mad: They can beat those guys but they just get so passive at the end. Howard should have hit someone and got suspended at least when they are down a starter they stay focused.

[Go Web Go!]

Because that's what Orlando needs - to be without their best player in an elimination game.

[Mister J]

Yeah, but they'd be focused while they got their ass whipped as they were without any inside presence at all. Dwight is just a distraction; him and all his petty rebounding, defense and opening shots up on the perimeter. Bah! If they can beat Philly without Howard, they can beat anyone in the league. Wooooooo! :dry:

Jeebus. Maybe they could actually trying to get Dwight the ball inside to protect the lead late instead of continuing the 3-point party.

[Darthphere]

Dwight Howard is overrated....


That being said I wouldn't mind him on the Heat. :o

[Ghostvirus]

Yeah, but they'd be focused while they got their ass whipped as they were without any inside preence at all. Dwight is just a distraction; him and all his petty rebounding, defense and opening shots up on the perimeter. Bah! If they can beat Philly without Howard, they can beat anyone in the league. Wooooooo! :dry:

Jeebus. Maybe they could actually trying to get Dwight the ball inside to protect the lead late instead of continuing the 3-point party.

Yeah, what the hell is with that? I mean Garnett is out, so you would think that giving Howard the ball would be logical. Considering there is a missing inside presence on Boston? It doesn't make any sense.:huh:

[Go Web Go!]

That being said I wouldn't mind him on the Heat. :o

Riley needs to pull the trigger on a Dorrell Wright and Chris Quinn for Howard deal.

[Silver Knight]

He's fine. The one I can't stand is Reggie Miller. Just because you were a former player doesn't mean you should be a broadcaster.
So very true.

[Mister J]

Yeah, what the hell is with that? I mean Garnett is out, so you would think that giving Howard the ball would be logical. Considering there is a missing inside presence on Boston? It doesn't make any sense.:huh:
Dwight isn't of an entirely different opinion.

Howard Questions Magic Plan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4162728)
BOSTON -- Just when the Orlando Magic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=orl), victims of a Game 4 dagger of a shot by Glen "Big Baby" Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3200), thought they couldn't feel any worse, along came a fourth-quarter collapse in Tuesday's Game 5 that could haunt them well into the offseason.


And as it turns out, the unsightly and uncomfortable fourth-quarter faltering paled in comparison to Magic star center Dwight Howard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2384)'s meltdown after the game.


Howard, Orlando's franchise player, openly questioned head coach Stan Van Gundy's refusal to get him more shots and wondered about some curious substitution patterns in Orlando's 92-88 loss to the Celtics Tuesday night.


"Offensively I have to get the ball," Howard said candidly. "I don't think you are going to win a lot of games when your post player only gets 10 shots. It's tough to get yourself going and get a lot of touches without a lot of shots. We have to do a better job with that."
He' surely has a point, but Jalen Rose is right; Dwight should have been poping off during the game and demanding the ball, rather than whining/crying about if afterward and throwing the Master of Panic under the bus.

[Mister J]

D-Wade Makes First Team For First Time (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4164290)
LeBron James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1966), the NBA's most valuable player, was a unanimous choice for the 2008-09 All-NBA first team, announced Wednesday.

It was the second straight All-NBA first team selection for James, who led the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cle) to a franchise-best 66-16 regular-season record and finished second in the NBA scoring race with 28.4 points per game.

Kobe Bryant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=110) of the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal), Orlando (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=orl)'s Dwight Howard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2384), Miami (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mia)'s Dwyane Wade (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1987) and Dirk Nowitzki (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=609) of Dallas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=dal) were also named to the first team, with Wade being chosen for the first time in his career. It was Bryant's seventh first-team selection and fourth in a row.

Named to the second team were Chris Paul (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2779) of New Orleans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=nor) and Portland (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=por)'s Brandon Roy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3027) at guard, San Antonio (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sas)'s Tim Duncan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=215) and Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=bos)'s Paul Pierce (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=662) at forward, and Houston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=hou)'s Yao Ming (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1722) at center.

On the third team were Denver (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=den)'s Chauncey Billups (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=63) and San Antonio's Tony Parker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1015) at guard, Denver's Carmelo Anthony (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1975) and the Lakers' Paul Gasol at forward, and Phoenix Suns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=pho) Shaquille O'Neal at center.

A panel of 122 sportswriters and broadcasters from the United States and Canada chose the teams.

Flash should have been unanimous too. :o

No real surprises. I thought TD might snag another First Team slot, but he faltered down the stretch; injuries and Father Time.

Good for Brandon Roy, Chauncey and Shaq. :up:

[Silver Knight]

The teams seem spot on. I dont agree with Dirk being on the team.

[Etienne]

Tim had 4 more first place votes than Dirk, he just missed out on being 1st team again.

Manu made 3rd team last year so it's great to see the youngest of the big three make it this year. TP really stepped up his game this season. :up:

[Ghostvirus]

Dwight isn't of an entirely different opinion.

Howard Questions Magic Plan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4162728)
He' surely has a point, but Jalen Rose is right; Dwight should have been poping off during the game and demanding the ball, rather than whining/crying about if afterward and throwing the Master of Panic under the bus.

True Howard needs to be more vocal. Hopefully this is a live & learn situation.

[Darthphere]

Wow, Shaqstradamus strikes again!

[Ghostvirus]

Wow, Shaqstradamus strikes again!
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7755/kazaam.jpg

[Nightmare]

Check it "tell me how my ass tastes"

[LastSunrise1981]

True Howard needs to be more vocal. Hopefully this is a live & learn situation.

If Dwight had a jump shot he'd help his team out a whole lot more. Boston is clogging in the middle that prevents them from dumping the ball into Howard.

[Excel]

Howard is just mad Perkins is owning him.

[NewYorkSpider]

Jason Kidd needs to limit these turnovers if Dallas wants to win tonight.

[Etienne]

This game could get ugly real fast.

[Ghostvirus]

If Dwight had a jump shot he'd help his team out a whole lot more. Boston is clogging in the middle that prevents them from dumping the ball into Howard.

If that is true, then people need to stop comparing Howard to Shaq. Because if Howard can't handle a few mediocre centers, then he isn't worthy of the title Superman, or the new Shaq.

[Mister J]

He's not worthy of it, regardless.

That's no slight to Dwight. It's just that the Daddy was on a level of dominance that few reach, irrespective of position. As I like to say, in his prime, Shaq was the most dominant force on the planet not named gravity. Howard would need an entirely different level of physicality and/or effectiveness to get it done down low before I even thought about comparing him to Shaq or truly considered him 'great'.

At any rate, you'd think the score was more than 14 points in this game. Every time I look up, Denver's running down the court on a break or getting an open look from 3. Howard's 14 points are a surprise.

[Kargo Warrior]

That alley-oop was the epitome of Denver's season...

[Mister J]

You gotta love the "Beat L.A." chants even though the other conference semifinal is still going. :funny:

Good for Denver. First conference finals since 1985.

[Etienne]

As of right now they are the team to beat in the West. Their amazingly in sync and very athletic. Fans already cheering "Beat LA".

[Bond]

Hm. Oh well. They got out of the first round. That's a good year in my book.

[Mister J]

Classy postgame press conference from Carlisle.

Plus, he took the time to attend Chuck Daly's funeral earlier today, despite what he had going on a personal level. Double classy.

[CrypticOne]

Hell yeah! GO NUGGETS!

[NewYorkSpider]

NBA Playoff Pool Standings:
1. Silver Knight - 98 Points (Predicted the DEN/DAL series correctly)+6
1. Raiden - 98 Points
3. Nightmare - 94 Points
3. Mister J - 94 Points (Picked DEN in 5)+4
5. L.A - 92 Points
5. NewYorkSpider - 92 Points
7. Bond - 80 Points
8. Go Web Go! - 78 Points
9. Ghostvirus - 74 Points

[LastSunrise1981]

Congrats to Denver. They're playing some great basketball right now and if they face L.A. I fear they won't play as great against them. But, hey, I'd rather for Denver to win a championship or go further than Los Angeles.

Back to the drawing board for the team and look to learn from our mistakes during the season and playoffs. Congrats are in order to Denver and their fanbase, they truly deserve it and I am happy to see them succeed.

[Darthphere]

Classy postgame press conference from Carlisle.

Plus, he took the time to attend Chuck Daly's funeral earlier today, despite what he had going on a personal level. Double classy.

Yeah, he's a good coach who by God, wins. Just can't seem to hold a job for some reason.

[Go Web Go!]

Carlisle has always been underappreciated. Same goes for a guy like Adelman. They never seem to get the credit when their teams win, only the blame when they lose.

[Darthphere]

Carlisle has always been underappreciated. Same goes for a guy like Adelman. They never seem to get the credit when their teams win.

I was going to type "because they're white" but didn't want to deal with it.

Oh wait....

[LastSunrise1981]

Somewhere I bet Detroit is really kicking themselves hard for getting rid of Billups. Hell, I won't lie when I thought adding Billups to the Denver line-up wouldn't have made a difference. But man he turned that team around and they're on their way to the WCF.

But I do have an honest question. How does everyone feel about a Denver/LA match up? Do you believe that Denver has a chance?

[Ghostvirus]

The way LA is playing I think Denver has very good chance. LA is has moments of complacency.

I think somebody should put Dumars on suicide watch. Most random & worst trade ever.

Hopefully LA can beat Houston tomorrow, so we can get this show on the road, because is an evenly matched series that will be epic.

Unlike when Boston plays Cleveland I see horrible pain in Bostons future when they meet Cleveland. I can't believe some people aren't sold on Cleveland yet. They are what Pierce wishes he was. The Truth.:o

[Go Web Go!]

Somewhere I bet Detroit is really kicking themselves hard for getting rid of Billups. Hell, I won't lie when I thought adding Billups to the Denver line-up wouldn't have made a difference. But man he turned that team around and they're on their way to the WCF.

But I do have an honest question. How does everyone feel about a Denver/LA match up? Do you believe that Denver has a chance?

Detroit knew what they were losing when they traded Billups. I don't think it was a good move on their part, but I understand why they pulled the trigger on the deal. We'll see if it pays off during the next offseason or 2.

I think the Lakers are still the favorites in the West, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Nuggets beat them & move on to the Finals. That series could go 7.

[CrypticOne]

Somewhere I bet Detroit is really kicking themselves hard for getting rid of Billups. Hell, I won't lie when I thought adding Billups to the Denver line-up wouldn't have made a difference. But man he turned that team around and they're on their way to the WCF.

But I do have an honest question. How does everyone feel about a Denver/LA match up? Do you believe that Denver has a chance?

Hell yeah Denver has a chance. I'd say they have more of a chance to beat LA than LA has of beating Denver. GO NUGGETS!

[NewYorkSpider]

Unlike when Boston plays Cleveland I see horrible pain in Bostons future when they meet Cleveland. I can't believe some people aren't sold on Cleveland yet. They are what Pierce wishes he was. The Truth.:o

I'm getting sick of Garnett's taunts. I hope they win the series so I can see the look on his face when Cleveland is up by 10 in every game.

[Raiden]

I think Lakers will win the series against Nuggets if they advanced to WCF, because they have homecourt and it does mean something, since everyone is pretty evenly-matched and this gives Lakers some X factor or psychological advantage. However, Nuggets are legit and I can see the series stretched to 6 or 7 games for sure. If Lakers can play the rest of the playoff with the same urgency they had in game 5 against Rockets, then they will definitely win the next series and beyond, but as a Lakers fan you always wonder which Lakers team will show up.

[Immortalfire]

Hey folks, once the NBA and Stanley Cup champs are crowned, we're going to be taking nominations for the Hype Sports Awards!

With delightful awards like Best team, worst team, athlete of the year, coach of the year, the Useless Man award, and even recognizing who the best fans are here at the Hype.

So stay tuned! :)

[Go Web Go!]

Sounds like a good time.

[BlackLantern]

http://deadspin.com/5252934/tony-banks-on-dirk-nowitzkis-lady-friend-i-know-that-chick

Don't know if this has been posted but....fugitive for 8 years...yea...some people are just disturbed

[Go Web Go!]

Dirk sure knows how to pick 'em. Sheesh.

[Darthphere]

Do you get off on hating on Dirk and the Mavericks?.....

[BlackLantern]

Im not defending Dirk, but she has multiple aliases and has been on the run for 8 years...you don't stay under the radar for that long and not be crafty in some way...

[Go Web Go!]

I don't hate the Mavericks. I dislike Jason Terry and from time to time, Mark Cuban, but hate? Na. And I actually like Dirk. Had his jersey before I chose to sell it off.

[Nightmare]

Do you get off on hating on Dirk and the Mavericks?.....

:lmao:

[Nightmare]

I don't hate the Mavericks. I dislike Jason Terry and from time to time, Mark Cuban, but hate? Na. And I actually like Dirk. Had his jersey before I chose to sell it off.

I remember how smug Jason Terry was in the post game victory after eliminating the Spurs. What a douche.

[Double Down]

Here is a picture my girlfriend took at LeBron's MVP press conference. It took place at the high school from which he graduated. She also graduated from that high school.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/LBJ.jpg

[Nightmare]

Cool pic. Did she get the chance to meet him?

[Double Down]

Cool pic. Did she get the chance to meet him?

We have met him several times (we are both journalists). I even have a basketball signed by him. :up:

[Nightmare]

Any pictures taken with him?

[Double Down]

Any pictures taken with him?

No. To be honest, that's a practice I have never gotten into. Through my job and through my dad, I have met a lot of celebrities and I am just kind of used to it. I don't really think about taking a picture with one. But I do end up getting the occasional autograph if it's something I remember to do.

[Silver Knight]

Hope Denver makes it all the way to the finals. LeBron vs Carmelo! Bring it on!

[Darthphere]

:lmao:

Hey, I try.

[Ghostvirus]

Wow, Dirk has bad taste in music & woman. Wouln't want to see his wine collection.:o

[BlackLantern]

Hope Denver makes it all the way to the finals. LeBron vs Carmelo! Bring it on!

the NBA would cry hard if that happened...the ratings from Game 1 would probably send someone out a window

[Silver Knight]

How so?

[Immortalfire]

Obviously, because it ain't LeBron vs. Kobe

[BlackLantern]

How so?

Denver isn't a great market for TV....and Cleveland is ok, because you usually get a big portion of Cleveland and the surrounding area....it would probably be one of the more competitive Finals in recent memory, but one of the lowest rated

[Excel]

Doubtful; LeBron has become an enormous draw.

[BlackLantern]

Doubtful; LeBron has become an enormous draw.

yes in the midwest....I won't be watching the Finals unless it goes past game 4

[Darthphere]

Yeah, I think there are more people that hate Lebron than like. Same with Kobe, Wade, Pierce, Shaq.

[Etienne]

Doubtful; LeBron has become an enormous draw.
You obviously didn't see the record low ratings for the Spurs Cavs finals in 07. You could argue that the Spurs had alot to do with that but everyone was seriously pimping out Lebron that year.

[Double Down]

Who in the hell outside of network executives and NBA employees gives a damn about the ratings?

[BlackLantern]

Who in the hell outside of network executives and NBA employees gives a damn about the ratings?

I find it interesting

[Darthphere]

I really don't. I just know that I have no interest in watching the Cavs in the finals, no matter who they play.

[Raiden]

Well, the rating for Spurs vs Cavs a couple of years ago had terrible rating, and that was with LeBron playing, so I think NBA would love to have something like Celtics vs Lakers again, although Cavs vs Lakers sound almost as good.

[Double Down]

If the NBA doesn't get a series it wants (such as Cleveland or Boston against L.A.), then all it does is drop some of the bandwagon fans off and leave a series for the real fans.
And Cleveland vs. Denver is hardly the worst case scenario ratings-wise, anyway. Denver vs. Orlando would be.

[Darthphere]

If the NBA doesn't get a series it wants (such as Cleveland or Boston against L.A.), then all it does is drop some of the bandwagon fans off and leave a series for the real fans.
And Cleveland vs. Denver is hardly the worst case scenario ratings-wise, anyway. Denver vs. Orlando would be.

Yeah, the NBA wants the bandwagon fans.:huh:

[Nightmare]

Who in the hell outside of network executives and NBA employees gives a damn about the ratings?

NBA's all about Making $$$$$$$$$$

[BlackLantern]

Yeah, the NBA wants the bandwagon fans.:huh:

more viewers = higher ratings and the NBA can justify charging advertisers a ****load for ad time during the Finals

[Double Down]

NBA's all about Making $$$$$$$$$$

Like I said, I understand it from the league's perspective, I just don't understand why fans care.

[Darthphere]

Like I said, I understand it from the league's perspective, I just don't understand why fans care.

Because if they make money, they keep the product going.:huh:

[Nightmare]

It's clearly the reason they Made Minnesota and Memphis Give L.A. and Boston Gasol and KG. Duh!

[Raiden]

It's clearly the reason they Made Minnesota and Memphis Give L.A. and Boston Gasol and KG. Duh!

You forgot to mention Sonics giving Boston Ray Allen.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, I think there are more people that hate Lebron than like. Same with Kobe, Wade, Pierce, Shaq.

I can understand the hate towards Shaq or Kobe. They can turn some people off with certain personality traits, but why would there be more hate for Wade, LeBron, or Pierce than anything else?

[Nightmare]

I hate paul pierce with a passion.

[Kargo Warrior]

I can understand the hate towards Shaq or Kobe. They can turn some people off with certain personality traits, but why would there be more hate for Wade, LeBron, or Pierce than anything else?


Personally it's not about hatred but there are several reasons for disliking some of them..

About Wade,the refereeing he received against the Pistons and the Mavs in 2006/07 when every single touch was qualified as a foul made a very big negative impression of him,though it's only indirectly his fault.

I really don't like the Lebron=savior of basketball mantle he has been throwned upon him from the media and the league...didn't when he entered the league,even less so now.He's a very good player with an exceptional athletic ability but the way he's been talked about,''the chosen one'' etc...you would think he discovered an earth-like planet somewhere in the universe or discovered the cure for cancer not being a basketball player.

I'm huge sports fan but the kind of idolization these people get is absurd...so i'm always rooting for(when the Pistons aren't playing that is) players like Duncan,Billups,Ray Allen,Steve Nash type of players who do their job without the unnecessary amounts of pomp.

[Etienne]

Like I said, I understand it from the league's perspective, I just don't understand why fans care.
Fans care about NBA ratings? :huh:

I really don't like the Lebron=savior of basketball mantle he has been throwned upon him from the media and the league...didn't when he entered the league,even less so now.He's a very good player with an exceptional athletic ability but the way he's been talked about,''the chosen one'' etc...you would think he discovered an earth-like planet somewhere in the universe or discovered the cure for cancer not being a basketball player.

http://i39.tinypic.com/t4v32g.jpg

[Darthphere]

I can understand the hate towards Shaq or Kobe. They can turn some people off with certain personality traits, but why would there be more hate for Wade, LeBron, or Pierce than anything else?

Yeah, pretty much anyone outside the Miami area thinks he gets way too many foul calls. Think the Hawks broadcaster times 1,000.

Lebron, come on man, that dude is hateable. All his antics on and off the court, the ego, the constant presence of him on Sportscenter etc.

Paul Pierce, well I don't know. I just know he gets a lot of hate.

[Kargo Warrior]

Fans care about NBA ratings? :huh:

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Thanks for proving my point...i'm pretty sure Einstein or Hawkins weren't going around in tattoo's that were expressing how great they were...you don't have to be modest or bath in the fountain of humility but i can't keep a straight face for someone like Lebron who acts like an omnipotent being...while being a basketball player and i can't emphasize enough on that.

I didn't knew he had such a humble tattoo but considering everything i'm not surprised at all.

His ego is bigger than Gheorghe Muresan.

[BlackLantern]

Paul Pierce, well I don't know. I just know he gets a lot of hate.

I don't get it....he's been with Boston when they SUCKED beyoned belief and had opportunities to leave...he's loyal and you don't see a lot of that these days with professional athletes in any sport

[Mister J]

There's always an identifiable hate factor for marketable/popular/better players, for whatever reason. There were people who absolutely could not stand Michael Jordan because he was everywhere, pretty cocky and then, the winning came. "Jordan gets all the calls", "Jordan always travels", "the NBA wants Chicago to win". T3h riggxors!!1!1!. It takes on a life on its own. Comparable stuff with Magic, Bird, Malone, Barkley, Shaq, AI, etc. . People will always find a reason to justify whatever.

It's no different today. "Boo hoo, Wade gets all the calls. :waa:", but nobody talks about how D-Wade's ass is always attacking the rim, in an era where the rules are heavily skewed to reward offensive players for doing such. "LeBron is on TV too much. I hate him. :cmad:", but it's hardly mentioned that the man is damn deserving of it. He made the jump from high school with a ridiculous amount of attention/pressure and delivered from the jump. He's good. Damn good. Scary good to only be 24. Now, with marginal surrounding talent, he's leading a legit title contender as arguable the best player in the game. Of course he's on TV all the time.

Pretty much anyone at that level is cocky and deservedly so. I just care if they can back it up. After last year's title, Paul Pierce went rambling that he was the best player in the league. He had a ring and was Finals MVP. Talk it up. Tim Duncan is probably the most unassuming superstar and champion in league history and there are people who still can't stand him or his team, which came as a little shock to me. If you win or merit any sort of success or attention, there's a pocket of hate for you somewhere. It's a time-honored fan standing ...as is the cartwheels most of us would do if those guys were on the teams we respectively root for.

As far as the ratings go, if the league can survive four Spurs championships and a handful of Finals appearances by the Nets and Pistons in recent memory, they can deal with Denver or Orlando sliding in.

[Ghostvirus]

There's always an identifiable hate factor for marketable/popular/better players, for whatever reason. There were people who absolutely could not stand Michael Jordan because he was everywhere, pretty cocky and then, the winning came. "Jordan gets all the calls", "Jordan always travels", "the NBA wants Chicago to win". T3h riggxors!!1!1!. It takes on a life on its own. Comparable stuff with Magic, Bird, Malone, Barkley, Shaq, AI, etc. . People will always find a reason to justify whatever.

It's no different today. "Boo hoo, Wade gets all the calls. :waa:", but nobody talks about how D-Wade's ass is always attacking the rim, in an era where the rules are heavily skewed to reward offensive players for doing such. "LeBron is on TV too much. I hate him. :cmad:", but it's hardly mentioned that the man is damn deserving of it. He made the jump from high school with a ridiculous amount of attention/pressure and delivered from the jump. He's good. Damn good. Scary good to only be 24. Now, with marginal surrounding talent, he's leading a legit title contender as arguable the best player in the game. Of course he's on TV all the time.

Pretty much anyone at that level is cocky and deservedly so. I just care if they can back it up. After last year's title, Paul Pierce went rambling that he was the best player in the league. He had a ring and was Finals MVP. Talk it up. Tim Duncan is probably the most unassuming superstar and champion in league history and there are people who still can't stand him or his team, which came as a little shock to me. If you win or merit any sort of success or attention, there's a pocket of hate for you somewhere. It's a time-honored fan standing ...as is the cartwheels most of us would do if those guys were on the teams we respectively root for.

As far as the ratings go, if the league can survive four Spurs championships and a handful of Finals appearances by the Nets and Pistons in recent memory, they can deal with Denver or Orlando sliding in.

Agree with you almost 100%. However with Garnett, & Pierce I think it isn't about them being popular. It is for me about being introduced to a personality that I hadn't seen in them. & I don't like it.

As for people hating on Wade & Lebron is hilarious, because these guys are the few players that have lived up to their hype. Lebron is simply amazing! I also as you said don't see a problem with being cocky if you can back it up.

That is the thing that pisses me off about Garnett right now. If he was playing then it wouldn't bother me, but he is sitting there running his mouth. But he isn't doing anything! It is just annoying. But I digress....

[LastSunrise1981]

Dwight is horrible at the line. I've always said the fact that he has no jump shot and is horrible at the line really hurts his team. Rick Barry said there is no excuse for any players to shoot 50 or 60% from the line.

Players today would rather dunk and do fancy circus shots or passes instead of being able to shoot from the outside.

[Darthphere]

This game has been ****ing horrible. No one deserves to win.

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm not sure if the low score has to do with good defense or if both teams are just that damn horrible right now. Orlando has had many chances to put them away and instead they're experiencing lapses on the defensive and offensive end.

If Orlando wins tonight they need to make Dwight stay after and shoot free throws after hours.

[Darthphere]

I'm not sure if the low score has to do with good defense or if both teams are just that damn horrible right now. Orlando has had many chances to put them away and instead they're experiencing lapses on the defensive and offensive end.

If Orlando wins tonight they need to make Dwight stay after and shoot free throws after hours.

No, both teams are just that ****ing horrible. The Magic should be up by 20 with all the free throws and open shots they've missed. And the Celtics look old.

[Excel]

OMG Paul

[Darthphere]

I mean, I don't understand why Perk and Big Baby are taking so many ****ing shots.

[NewYorkSpider]

That is the thing that pisses me off about Garnett right now. If he was playing then it wouldn't bother me, but he is sitting there running his mouth. But he isn't doing anything! It is just annoying. But I digress....

I agree.

[Venom'sDad]

The Refs have been pretty obviously bias in these playoffs series this year... pretty obvious the League wants 23 & 24.... just check out all the advertisement. :cwink:

[LastSunrise1981]

Hedo with a big time three pointer.

I'm not watching the game between Houston and Los Angeles. Anytime I see Kobe or the Lakers I get disgusted by their arrogance. Seems like every game with them turns out to be a slow game that lasts for hours.

Orlando is lucking out with these turnovers that Boston is committing and I love seeing KG with a disgusted stupid look on his face. Yeah, not talking **** now are you?

[Mister J]

Agree with you almost 100%. However with Garnett, & Pierce I think it isn't about them being popular. It is for me about being introduced to a personality that I hadn't seen in them. & I don't like it.

As for people hating on Wade & Lebron is hilarious, because these guys are the few players that have lived up to their hype. Lebron is simply amazing! I also as you said don't see a problem with being cocky if you can back it up.

That is the thing that pisses me off about Garnett right now. If he was playing then it wouldn't bother me, but he is sitting there running his mouth. But he isn't doing anything! It is just annoying. But I digress....
KG has been like for years; always in someone's face, yelling indiscriminately, fired up beyond all reason. I guess when Minnesota was getting bounced in the first round every year, it flew under the radar. I'm sorry, but that **** is hilarious to me. I need a KG face feed streamed on the web as I watch the game. :funny: :up:

Pierce is out of his mind though. This was the same guy who routinely only put up individual numbers and had never been a part of a 50-win team until last year, even though being on some decent teams with Antoine Walker in his All-Star days. Outside of a conference finals appearance, the 4 playoff runs prior to last year were nothing special. He couldn't carry anyone anywhere. He was near pressuring management for a trade, two Hall of Famers get dealt and now he's one of the great Celtics, maybe a HoF'er and noticeably cocky. Eh.

[Darthphere]

Magic fans are stupid.

[Venom'sDad]

Ray Allen comes and goes

[Darthphere]

KG has been like for years; always in someone's face, yelling indiscriminately, fired up beyond all reason. I guess when Minnesota was getting bounced in the first round every year, it flew under the radar. I'm sorry, but that **** is hilarious to me. I need a KG face feed streamed on the web as I watch the game. :funny: :up:

Pierce is out of his mind though. This was the same guy who routinely only put up individual numbers and had never been a part of a 50-win team until last year, even though being on some decent teams with Antoine Walker in his All-Star days. Outside of a conference finals appearance, the 4 playoff runs prior to last year were nothing special. He couldn't carry anyone anywhere. He was near pressuring management for a trade, two Hall of Famers get dealt and now he's one of the great Celtics, maybe a HoF'er and noticeably cocky. Eh.

Paul Pierce called himself the best player on the planet.

[Darthphere]

Ray Allen comes and goes

He's the Karma Chameleon of the NBA.

[LastSunrise1981]

Someone needs to make a gif showing KG's face when he saw they were going to lose. Talk about severe ownage.

[Darthphere]

Dwight Howard just said they played great defense. Come on now, do't give yourself credit for Ray Allen being 0-7 from 3 point range and the 20+ turnovers.

[Darthphere]

Someone needs to make a gif showing KG's face when he saw they were going to lose. Talk about severe ownage.

It was probably the same face Dirk had when they did lose.:o

[LastSunrise1981]

He's the Karma Chameleon of the NBA.

He's Boy George? :huh:

[Venom'sDad]

Well... that's ends Boston perfect franchise playoff series close out game record. Now 32-1 :dry:

[Darthphere]

He's Boy George? :huh:

He comes and goes.:huh:

[Excel]

LeBrons cockiness is so overrated; I wouldnt call him confident as much as cocky. Kobe is cocky; guys like Wade and James are confident; theres a big difference.

[Darthphere]

Well... that's ends Boston perfect franchise playoff series close out record. Now 32-1 :dry:

I thought that was series not individual games.:huh:

[Ghostvirus]

Wow, 32-0 in games sevens. That doesn't look good for Orlando.

[Venom'sDad]

LeBrons cockiness is so overrated; I wouldnt call him confident as much as cocky. Kobe is cocky; guys like Wade and James are confident; theres a big difference.Come on, Kobe is not cocky... Kobe is more sure of himself and very confident. James is alot more cocky than Kobe. Kobe is quiet and within himself, Labron dances, poses after shots, take invisible pictures; however, all three are pretty confident.

[Venom'sDad]

I thought that was series not individual games.:huh:
They were 32-0 in series closeout games. Not game 7. Game 7's they are 17-3 I believe.

[LastSunrise1981]

He comes and goes.:huh:

Obviously you didn't catch on to the Boy George or Culture Club reference.

[Kargo Warrior]

LeBrons cockiness is so overrated; I wouldnt call him confident as much as cocky. Kobe is cocky; guys like Wade and James are confident; theres a big difference.

Yes there is...tattooing ''Chosen 1'' on your back is a archetypal example of cockiness.

[Mister J]

Well... that's ends Boston perfect franchise playoff series close out game record. Now 32-1 :dry:

Wow, 32-0 in games sevens. That doesn't look good for Orlando.
Wait. They actually said that? The game had nauseated me so I flipped channels when Dwight said the Magic played great defense. Boston has lost Game 7s before; 2005 to Indiana at home, off the top of my head.

[Darthphere]

Obviously you didn't catch on to the Boy George or Culture Club reference.

I know who sings the song. Someone said "Ray Allen comes and goes" and I responded with my "He's the Karma Chameleon of the NBA" because that's part of the chorus to the song. Dude, seriously.:huh:

[Mister J]

They were 32-0 in series closeout games. Not game 7. Game 7's they are 17-3 I believe.
They're not counting Game 7 as a closeout game? :confused:

[Darthphere]

Wait. They actually said that? The game had nauseated me so I flipped channels when Dwight said the Magic played great defense. Boston has lost Game 7s before; 2005 to Indiana at home, off the top of my head.

I don't get the 32-0 stat because because they lost game 6 to the Hawks and Cavs last season which were closeout games. The stat as I see it is they are 32-0 when they take a 3-2 lead.:huh:

[Kargo Warrior]

Wait. They actually said that? The game had nauseated me so I flipped channels when Dwight said the Magic played great defense. Boston has lost Game 7s before; 2005 to Indiana at home, off the top of my head.


The actual statistic which was posted after the last game is that the Celtics are 32-0 after leading 3-2.

[Mister J]

I don't get the 32-0 stat because because they lost game 6 to the Hawks and Cavs last season which were closeout games. The stat as I see it is they are 32-0 when they take a 3-2 lead.:huh:

The actual statistic which was posted after the last game is that the Celtics are 32-0 after leading 3-2.
Cupie Dolls for both of you. :up:
The Celtics are a perfect 32-0 in series in which they’ve led 3-2.

[Ghostvirus]

Well looks as though LA's complacency is kicking in again.:dry:

[NewYorkSpider]

17-3 Houston. :wow:

What a great start for the Rockets.

[Darthphere]

Cupie Dolls for both of you. :up:

Do you need my address to send me it?:o

[Excel]

Yes there is...tattooing ''Chosen 1'' on your back is a archetypal example of cockiness.

Appearnetly youve never seen a LBJ interview?

[Venom'sDad]

I don't get the 32-0 stat because because they lost game 6 to the Hawks and Cavs last season which were closeout games. The stat as I see it is they are 32-0 when they take a 3-2 lead.:huh:

You know... you are right. They are 32-0 when they take a 3-2 lead in the series.

[LastSunrise1981]

17-3 Houston. :wow:

What a great start for the Rockets.

That won't last trust me. Lakers are known for letting teams get a big lead before deciding to turn it on and keep it close until the 4th.

[Mister J]

Do you need my address to send me it?:o
Like I don't have ways to access that information already. :o

Kidding. :woot:

Maybe. :ninja:

[Darthphere]

Like I don't have ways to access that information already. :o

Kidding. :woot:

Maybe. :ninja:

We need to meet in real life. You know, to make fun of certain German born basketball players.

[NewYorkSpider]

That won't last trust me. Lakers are known for letting teams get a big lead before deciding to turn it on and keep it close until the 4th.

I agree. Houston had a lead like this in game 4 and L.A came back. Scola has been coming up huge for the Rockets. If he can keep this up, Houston should win this game.

[Mister J]

We need to meet in real life. You know, to make fun of certain German born basketball players.
You're such a hater.

[Kargo Warrior]

It doesnt matter if the Lakers somehow win this game...the Nuggets are the team to beat in the West.

The Lakers are way too inconsistent to be considered any kind of a favorite against the Cavs and the Nuggets.

[Venom'sDad]

Although I agree about the inconsistencies, the Lakers will be the favorite against Denver.

[Ghostvirus]

If Kobe doesn't win it this year. I don't think he ever will without Shaq. This was his best possible chance.

[Kargo Warrior]

Although I agree about the inconsistencies, the Lakers will be the favorite against Denver.

Based on hype and expectations not on current form...

[Darthphere]

If Kobe doesn't win it this year. I don't think he ever will without Shaq. This was his best possible chance.

But I thought Bynum was like the next great thing.:whatever:

[Venom'sDad]

Kargo... base on talent... Lakers have better talent, Denver is hyped because the team is a very exciting team and have some streaky players; but the Lakers have solid players and that is why they will always be the favorite against Denver.