Official 2008-09 NBA Thread

[Go Web Go!]

So how much longer does Philly have to match the Clips offer to AI2? My bet............they won't. :o

Did AI even sign an offer sheet with the Clippers? I haven't heard a thing about a signing.

[Nightmare]

Thats impossible now that they traded for Camby, they have no cap space left besides like 2 mill.

[Docker2.0]

Thats impossible now that they traded for Camby, they have no cap space left besides like 2 mill.
Are you kidding me?! The Clips just lost Brand and Maggette, they should have enough money for J. Smith and AI2.

[Nightmare]

Not anymore. They signed Baron which is about 12 and traded a 2nd round pick for Camby who's making 9 mill.

[Docker2.0]

Yeah but the Clips are always under the cap, even with Brand and Magette so I'm sure they can get AI2 if they wanted him.

[L.A.]

hahahahaha oh docker! Clips had about 15 million under the cap after Brand left. They used it on Camby who makes 10 million and signed Azubeke from the warriors with 3 Million a year. All part of the plan to get Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, or Stoudamire in 2 years from now because will be 28 million under the cap.

[Nightmare]

Yeah but the Clips are always under the cap, even with Brand and Magette so I'm sure they can get AI2 if they wanted him.

They are 2 million dollars under the cap. Only way to sign one of those players for the kind of money they want they'll have to sign and trade for them.

[Docker2.0]

F-ing Clips! :cmad: Here's hoping Livingston comes back from his injury at least 90%!

[Go Web Go!]

Eventually, maybe - but I wouldn't count on it this coming season.

[omid17]

F-ing Clips! :cmad: Here's hoping Livingston comes back from his injury at least 90%!
bad memories :(

[Excel]

TMAC to Detroit? Gotta get me one of them jerseys!

[Nightmare]

Is that official or just a rumor excel? I thought that died down.

[Docker2.0]

The Mavs have got to be the dumbest team in history! They offered the Kings Bass and some other scrub for Artest but the Kings want Howard. Bass is a beast if he get pt and Howard is a weedhead........what's so difficult about the decision?! :huh:

[LastSunrise1981]

The Mavs have got to be the dumbest team in history! They offered the Kings Bass and some other scrub for Artest but the Kings want Howard. Bass is a beast if he get pt and Howard is a weedhead........what's so difficult about the decision?! :huh:

Ah, the only time the Mavs get mentioned is when posters want to insult them. How lovely. :whatever:

But in all seriousness I'm not sure if I want Artest on our squad. He's definitely a cancer to any team chemistry and while he's great on defense, decent on offense, and so forth, he would be a distraction for Dallas I think and I don't believe Carlise wants to deal with Artest again.

[Docker2.0]

Howard isnt?! :huh: At least Artest shows up, the same can't be said about Howard. :o Plus he'd give them the toughness that this team BADLY needs cuase they are softer than Saturday night marshmellows.

[Nightmare]

I heard it was Jerry Stackhouse and Brandon Bass they offered for Artest. :hehe:

[Ben Urich]

Nobody's signed Iguodala to an offer sheet. The Clippers did sign Kelenna Azubuike to one, though. Dubs have another 5-6 days to match.

The Mavericks offered Bass, Stackhouse, and cash for Artest, but the Kings insist that any team trading for Artest also take Kenny Thomas (two years, $16 million) back with him. The Mavs' refusal to include Howard has killed the deal.

The McGrady-to-Detroit rumors were debunked.

[LastSunrise1981]

Howard isnt?! :huh: At least Artest shows up, the same can't be said about Howard. :o Plus he'd give them the toughness that this team BADLY needs cuase they are softer than Saturday night marshmellows.

I agree we need to get tougher. But Artest is a tougher to the point that he hurts the team and ruins the chemistry. If he has his head on straight then he'd be a great asset to the Dallas Mavericks and provide some great back-up offense/defense to Dirk, Terry, Howard, and Kidd.

And shows up as in how? We've never seen Artest in a clutch situation in terms of clinching playoff series or a championship match.

[Ben Urich]

Didn't Artest play for Carlisle in Indy? :huh:

[Go Web Go!]

Indeed, he did.

[LastSunrise1981]

Didn't Artest play for Carlisle in Indy? :huh:

Yes he did. If I'm not mistaken he was furious with Artest when he wanted to do a rap album instead of helping the team out. Then the whole Detroit brawl happened and he got to do the album and more.

[Mister J]

Childress Weighing Offer From Greek Team (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ai4LKOewduB7s.twC59GI3O8vLYF?slug=aw-childressgreece072108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
LAS VEGAS – In a potentially stunning move that reflects the growing challenge Europe’s basketball leagues pose to the NBA, Atlanta Hawks free-agent forward Josh Childress is strongly considering a three-year, $20 million offer from Greek powerhouse Olympiakos, several league sources said Sunday night.

Childress flew to Greece late Sunday and is scheduled to meet with Olympiakos officials on Monday. Childress, 25, is so flustered with the Hawks’ refusal to make a sign-and-trade deal to another team, one source familiar with his thinking believes there’s “better than a 50-50 chance” he’ll sign with Olympiakos. The team also will cover the Greek taxes for Childress, making it even more lucrative.

“Unless he just gets there and doesn’t like it at all, I think he’s going to go,” one league source said.

Childress is a restricted free agent, but the Hawks would have no matching rights with a FIBA contract. Olympiakos’ offer also would allow Childress the opportunity to return to the NBA over the next two summers. The Hawks would maintain his restricted free-agent rights provided they make him a qualifying offer.
I hope he goes. :lmao:

Suns Reportedly To Sign Ex-Warriors Forward Barnes (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3497934)

[omid17]

lol

[DarthRekal]

Lakers!.... that is all:o

[Ben Urich]

The Hawks are such idiots.

[Go Web Go!]

-Celtics sign Eddie House & Tony Allen to 2 year extensions.

[Ben Urich]

Pretty good move on their part. Couldn't risk losing more of their bench.

[Go Web Go!]

-Magic trade Dooling to Nets

-Suns trade Shaq to Raptors....
http://nballin.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/shaq-raptors.jpg







Not really

[MoPlaYa]

Kurt Thomas resigns with Spurs...

[Dark Donnie]

looks like Childress is going to Greece...

Report: Childress likely to sign in Greece

Sekou Smith reported in his blog early Wednesday morning that Hawks swingman Josh Childress is very likely going to sign a contract with Greek team Olympiakos in the very near future.

"Childress is still in Athens and won’t leave without making a decision on his immediate future," Smith writes. And three of the sources Smith has spoken to have stated that Childress is "gone." The Hawks could have locked him up long-term last year, but chose to play the waiting game, and appear to have lost. This will be a PR nightmare in Atlanta, and now hangs a further cloud over the future of Josh Smith, another restricted free agent, and the Hawks. Apparently, Billy Knight wasn't the biggest problem in Atlanta, and the owners seem to be dead set on keeping their spot as the laughing stock of the NBA. Jul. 23 - 2:20 am et

[Mister J]

Please let Josh Smith go international, as well. The comedy is too good to pass up.

[Docker2.0]

I think Josh Smith is in a bad spot. He's played his entire life in the Atlanta area.........I know the Hawks are blackballing him but with his entire life in that area, he probably doesn't want to leave. I don't think he's going to re-sign with them unless they up their offer but I'm guessing that's why its taking him so long to sign with anyone.

[Ben Urich]

He might not have a choice but to stay in Atlanta. They can match any offer. He really has no say in the matter, unless he chooses to take a one-year qualifying offer, play this season in Atlanta, then enter unrestricted free agency next summer. That's what Luol Deng plans to do if the Bulls don't throw more money at him.

[Docker2.0]

The Hawks are cheap. If he gets an offer for $60M, I don't think they'll match.

Did anyone see the Sparks/Shock fight? I'm watching ESPN and they are trying to make Mahorn look like the bad guy but dude was clearly trying to stop the fight. Leslie falls down, they say he pushed her and then the players attack him. If dude is suspended and the players who were attacking him aren't then I'm done with the WNBA.........more.........though I haven't watched a game since Super Cooper retired. :o

[Nightmare]

Best part is where Mahorn shoved Leslie on her ass, then her team mate tried to hit Mahorn on the back and he just stood there like nothing.

[Raiden]

Best part is where Mahorn shoved Leslie on her ass, then her team mate tried to hit Mahorn on the back and he just stood there like nothing.

Well, he is pretty huge and not easily taken down, even by WNBA players.

[Docker2.0]

He didn't shove her on purpose, he tried to break up the fight. Dude is huge! But for Leslie is trying to get dude suspended on tv damn near in tears, trying to make it seem like it was a domestic abuse case but its not. It was funny when the girl was hitting him in the back and dude didn't even feel it.

[Nightmare]

Well, there's no clear cut film that ive seen to judge whether or not it was intentional how he shoved her. The commentator of the game said "i saw it live, he pushed her" paraphrasing. Thats what i heard in the video i saw.

[Docker2.0]

That's what I'm saying: they are trying to villianify dude but you can clearly see her attacking him, him trying to stop her, she falls down, and her team attack him. She was all gangsta before he separated her but was in tears after the game. Bah! I'll be so glad when the WNBA gets canned! I didn't think I could hate it any more than I already did. :cmad:

[Nightmare]

:lmao: @ She was all gangsta before he separated her but was in tears after the game.

[Ziggyman]

...Any Toronto fans up in here...?

[MoPlaYa]

Clippers Trade Brevin Knight to the Jazz for Jason Hart

[Dr. Evil]

Josh Childress to Europe isn't a big deal. I've been reading about these role players heading to Europe, and a lot of the columnists say it's going to affect the NBA. I don't know how it's going to affect the NBA greatly. It's not like anyone who's an elite level player is going to play in Europe. All who will go to Europe will be like Josh Childress, role players.

Besides, the elite level players (like Kobe and LeBron) will sign max level contracts with either their current NBA teams or with new NBA teams.

[Docker2.0]

Don't be so sure about that. The Euro is a lot higher than the dollar right now so players like Childress and Nachbar are getting superstar money overseas. I wouldn't be surprised if a big named decided to play across the pond........especially if we lose AGAIN in the Olympics cuase we can't be called the greatest b ballers in the world.

[Ben Urich]

The Russian team that signed Boki Nachbar last week has offered Delonte West $10 million over two years.

:huh:

[Go Web Go!]

Are they desperate for guys overseas or what?

[Nightmare]

Omg first childress now Delonte West, the average players are getting sucked up fast! Maybe they'll offer sasha vujacic 8 million per over there too.

[Docker2.0]

Nah they paid the Lakers to keep him in the NBA to get him out of their country. :o

[omid17]

Kurt Thomas resigns with Spurs...:up:

[Ben Urich]

Monta Ellis re-signs with the Warriors for six years, $67 million. :wow::up:

Sasha Vujacic re-signs with the Lakers for three years, $15 million.

Maurice Evans signs with Atlanta for three years, $7.5 million.

Utah matches Oklahoma City's offer sheet for C.J. Miles.

That's about it. :huh:

[Nightmare]

Mo Evans? Former Magic? I didnt even know he was a FA.

Glad the lakers resigned Sasha.

[Ben Urich]

Yeah he was a free agent and the Magic didn't need him because Keith Bogans picked up his option. It's a shame. I liked Mo. :csad:

He's a great finisher on the break. :up:

[Docker2.0]

You guys watching the NBA players on ESPN playing in the pre Olympic games? No way will we win gold! Its a blow out but I thought the purpose for getting guys like Prince was to play team ball and the truth is most of these guys can't. :o They are trying but its hard to change your game when you are taught to play a certain way.

[MoPlaYa]

Yeah he was a free agent and the Magic didn't need him because Keith Bogans picked up his option. It's a shame. I liked Mo. :csad:

He's a great finisher on the break. :up:

Well they got Bogans, Pietrus, and Reddick now at 2 guard...I think they need to trade Reddick for a backup center

[Dark Donnie]

...
Josh Smith-F-Hawks Jul. 26 - 10:43 am et

The Hawks are weighing two sign-and-trade offers for restricted free agent Josh Smith, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Sekou Smith writes that the two offers come from "a Western Conference power and...an Eastern Conference big dog." Atlanta might not be willing to pay Smith what he feels he deserves, leaving either a sign-and-trade or the possibility that he will accept a qualifying offer and leave for nothing as an unrestricted free agent next summer. The last time Sekou hinted at a blockbuster trade Mike Bibby wound up in a Hawks uniform, so we're all ears.
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

[Docker2.0]

The Hawks have got to be the cheapest and dumbest franchise in the NBA! It wouldn't be surprised if you bought and a order of fries and a soda came with it.

[Go Web Go!]

And that, boys & girls, is why the Hawks (even with last years playoff appearance, they were under .500) will continue to be perennial LOSERS.

[Ben Urich]

Well they got Bogans, Pietrus, and Reddick now at 2 guard...I think they need to trade Reddick for a backup center

Don't forget Courtney Lee, their most recent draft pick.

[Ben Urich]

Warriors agree to re-sign Andris Biedrins for six years, $63 million.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3507385
Good move. :up: They overpaid, but they also didn't want to lose him to a European team. And really, a young, 10-and-10 center who blocks the occasional shot (and who shoots 63% from the field, albeit on gimme layups and dunks) is a rare find.

[L.A.]

63 Million???!!! They way overpaid him by 30 million!!! :eek:

[Docker2.0]

But if they didn't, he was going back overseas. That Childress signing is sending shockwaves in the free agent market and it would be interesting next year. :o

[Go Web Go!]

So, in order to keep a slightly above averege (and that's being kind) you have to pay him 63 mil? Pff. Please. I'd help the guy pack his bags if I were Golden State, but hey, if they want to blow a wad of cash on Biedrins this year instead of a top guy in the next year or 2, that's their problem.

[Ben Urich]

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/07/27/the-big-biedrins-deal-minus-bonus-clauses-im-guessing-that-itll-officially-come-in-at-54m/

Timmy K says the deal is actually for $54 million, and that the Dubs were in no danger of losing Beans to ANY overseas team.

Beans just turned 22 in April and comes off a season in which he averaged 10.5 points, 9.8 boards, 1.2 blocks. He also lead the league in field goal percentage and boosted his free throw percentage 10 points.

It's a good move on the Dubs' part.

[Nightmare]

Dubs and Beans? Im lost..

[Ben Urich]

Dubs = Warriors.

Beans = Biedrins.

Also, Pistons sign Kwame Brown ($8 million over 2 seasons).

[Go Web Go!]

-Ricky Davis is off to LAC. Good riddance.

[Nightmare]

Dubs = Warriors.

Beans = Biedrins.

Also, Pistons sign Kwame Brown ($8 million over 2 seasons).

OH MY GOD!? 4 million per for Kwame!? :wow:

[Dark Donnie]

Okafor signs...

Report: Bobcats sign Okafor for six years

The Charlotte Bobcats signed forward Emeka Okafor to a six-year, $72 million contract on Tuesday.

The deal should be finalized in the next couple days after the Bobcats upped their offer from $10 million to $12 million per season. It looked like Okafor might be included in a sign-and-trade or just take a one-year qualifying offer and bolt next year. But the Cats were able to step up their offer for one of the league's best shot blockers and interior defenders. Now they just need him to stay healthy. Jul. 29 - 8:24 am et
Source: Charlotte Observer

[Go Web Go!]

Per ESPNews: Rockets trade for Artest

EDIT: And all they had to give up was Bobby Jackson, a first rounder, and a player to be named.

The Kings got robbed.

[Mister J]

For Bobby Jackson, 2009 #1 and, the ever-popular, 'player to be named later'.

I really think they could have shuffled off Kenny Thomas' horrible contract along with Ron Ron, but maybe the market for a wife-beating, stand-charging headcase, who will throw the franchise under the bus when it suits him, isn't what I think it is.

[nolan's roll'n]

Per ESPNews: Rockets trade for Artest

EDIT: And all they had to give up was Bobby Jackson, a first rounder, and a player to be named.


The Kings got robbed.


Wow r u serious? :o

[Nightmare]

Per ESPNews: Rockets trade for Artest

EDIT: And all they had to give up was Bobby Jackson, a first rounder, and a player to be named.

The Kings got robbed.

Holy Crap.

Lakers are stuck with odom. :csad:

Rockets skyrocket to atleast a top 4 seed.

[nolan's roll'n]

The Clippers sign Ricky Davis.

[Ben Urich]

Let's try this post again (the board ate it the first time :cmad:)

Here's the Rockets' rotation, not accounting for their rookies or for the possible return of Carl Landry:

Alston / Brooks
McGrady / Head
Artest / Battier
Scola / Hayes
Yao / Mutombo

:wow:. Good luck scoring on that team, which finished second only to Boston in Defensive Efficiency (http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2008/d_de.htm) last season.

The Kings get a fan-favorite (Jackson, who spent his most productive seasons with them) and a mid-to-late first-round draft pick next season to pair with their inevitable lottery pick. A solid move for both teams. :up:

[nolan's roll'n]

Let's try this post again (the board ate it the first time :cmad:)

Here's the Rockets' rotation, not accounting for their rookies or for the possible return of Carl Landry:

Alston / Brooks
McGrady / Head
Artest / Battier
Scola / Hayes
Yao / Mutombo

:wow:. Good luck scoring on that team, which finished second only to Boston in Defensive Efficiency (http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2008/d_de.htm) last season.

The Kings get a fan-favorite (Jackson, who spent his most productive seasons with them) and a mid-to-late first-round draft pick next season to pair with their inevitable lottery pick. A solid move for both teams.

Hey man, Defense wins championships! T-Mac's time to win has come! :up:

[Nightmare]

Yup, now is his time. No more excuses not to get out of the first round now.

[Go Web Go!]

-Luol Deng to sign new 6 year deal with Chicago. Just a matter of time before Gordon is out the door.

[nolan's roll'n]

^ Yeah now they hyave secured the 3rd spot in the western conference. :cwink:

[Bond]

I'm pretty sure this is fake, but cool nonetheless:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x58/CelticBalla32/Barons.jpg

[The Riddler]

i am ecstatic over this trade.

the rockets and lakers are easily now the class of the west, and likely the entire league.

[Nightmare]

I'm pretty sure this is fake, but cool nonetheless:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x58/CelticBalla32/Barons.jpg

That looks a lot like the spurs jersey's. But hopefully its atleast similar to that. Thats a pretty badass design.

[Bond]

Texas:

Houston Rockets - T Mac, Yao, and Artest
San Antonio Spurs - Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli
Dallas Mavericks - Dirk, Jason Kidd, and Josh Howard

:cool:

[Ben Urich]

i am ecstatic over this trade.

the rockets and lakers are easily now the class of the west, and likely the entire league.

Boston and New Orleans. :o

Also, this trade makes the Mavericks the fourth-best team in the Southwest, which sucks because they made an offer (Stackhouse, Bass, and $$$) for Artest last week and got rejected.

Sorry, Sunrise. :csad:

[Bond]

Boston and New Orleans. :o

Also, this trade makes the Mavericks the fourth-best team in the Southwest, which sucks because they made an offer (Stackhouse, Bass, and $$$) for Artest last week and got rejected.

Sorry, Sunrise. :csad:
Yep. :waa:

[Nightmare]

Im gonna go out on a limb and say the mavs dont make the playoffs.

[The Riddler]

Boston and New Orleans. :o

Also, this trade makes the Mavericks the fourth-best team in the Southwest, which sucks because they made an offer (Stackhouse, Bass, and $$$) for Artest last week and got rejected.

Sorry, Sunrise. :csad:

i don't see boston and the hornets being better than either the lakers or rockets.

the celtics beat the lakers without andrew bynum and it was still quite close; in fact if the lakers didn't blow their infamous 24 points, they would likely have won the title sans bynum.

secondly, the hornets are a very good team, but they just cannot match up with stacked teams like the lakers and now, rockets. they have a great pg, a strong center in chandler and a really good offensive player in west, and i guess you can say peja can still shoot, but that's it. sure they acquired posey, but their bench isn't really all that good. in addition, when matching them up with the lakers or rockets, they are clearly lacking.

now look at the rockets. they have 3 top scorers in the league, each that can drop 30 points any night. in addition, this team, second in defensive efficiency behind boston last season adds artest, one of the best defenders in the league. lastly, look at the rotation. their role players are amazingly deep with veteran leadership and good shooting from brent barry, a top tier defender and reliable shot in battier, the 3rd place in ROY voting in scola, solid pg in alston, and if they resign carl landry they're even deeper. they have essentially boston's big three with more defensive prowess and an arguably deeper bench.

[Go Web Go!]

I'm pretty sure this is fake, but cool nonetheless:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x58/CelticBalla32/Barons.jpg

Yeah, that's fake - been floating around for a while now. I don't mind the design though, and I hope that they do infact go with Barons.

[Nightmare]

Its fake? Crap i posted it on realgm.

[fu manchu]

:oI'm actually hoping Oklahoma City go with Wind, especially after seeing these comments in the yahoo page:

Think about this, folks- an NBA team whose name is synonymous with passing gas. The puns would be never ending.

"Shaq Breaks Wind."

[Ben Urich]

i don't see boston and the hornets being better than either the lakers or rockets.

Okay.

the celtics beat the lakers without andrew bynum and it was still quite close; in fact if the lakers didn't blow their infamous 24 points, they would likely have won the title sans bynum.

The series wasn't as close as some people make it out to be. The Celtics won by an average of 8.3 points per game. And while Bynum's return should improve the Lakers, there's no guarantee his style will mesh with that of Pau Gasol, as they have yet to play a single game together. That fact, combined with the Celtics' consistent dominance, makes them the class of the NBA, and certainly better than Los Angeles.

The Lakers might have won the title if they didn't blow that lead. But they did blow that lead, and they didn't win the title, so it's moot.

secondly, the hornets are a very good team, but they just cannot match up with stacked teams like the lakers and now, rockets. they have a great pg, a strong center in chandler and a really good offensive player in west, and i guess you can say peja can still shoot, but that's it. sure they acquired posey, but their bench isn't really all that good. in addition, when matching them up with the lakers or rockets, they are clearly lacking.

The Hornets aren't as deep, but the Chandler/West/Paul trio is young, cohesive, and dominant. If I wanted to set my team up to win for the next decade, I'd choose the Hornets' core over the Rockets' or the Lakers'.

now look at the rockets. they have 3 top scorers in the league, each that can drop 30 points any night. in addition, this team, second in defensive efficiency behind boston last season adds artest, one of the best defenders in the league.

Artest improves the team, without question. However, he plays the same position as Shane Battier, which seems to make him redundant. Maybe Artest can play some minutes at power forward, or maybe McGrady can shift to point guard. Either way, the Rockets will still have trouble defending the paint. Yao is an average shot-blocker at best (and, when you consider his size, a below-average one) and Dikembe Mutombo doesn't have the stamina to play heavy minutes (although he's effective in spurts). I'm not so sure that adding perimeter defense will push the Rockets past the Celtics in the defensive efficiency department.

lastly, look at the rotation. their role players are amazingly deep with veteran leadership and good shooting from brent barry, a top tier defender and reliable shot in battier, the 3rd place in ROY voting in scola, solid pg in alston, and if they resign carl landry they're even deeper. they have essentially boston's big three with more defensive prowess and an arguably deeper bench.

The Boston Three Party is better and less prone to injury, and the teams' defenses are just about equal; even if Artest improves the Rockets' defensive efficiency by 3 points, they'll still trail Boston. In my estimation, the only way in which Houston trumps Boston is in terms of depth. Brooks/Head/Battier/Hayes/Mutombo is better than House/T. Allen/???/Powe/Davis.

I don't disagree that the Rockets will be an elite team this season; that much is certain. But, essentially, my contention is that Boston is still the top dog, so to speak.

[Bond]

Yeah, that's fake - been floating around for a while now. I don't mind the design though, and I hope that they do infact go with Barons.
Oh ok. I hope they go with the Barons too.

[The Riddler]

The series wasn't as close as some people make it out to be. The Celtics won by an average of 8.3 points per game. And while Bynum's return should improve the Lakers, there's no guarantee his style will mesh with that of Pau Gasol, as they have yet to play a single game together. That fact, combined with the Celtics' consistent dominance, makes them the class of the NBA, and certainly better than Los Angeles.

The Lakers might have won the title if they didn't blow that lead. But they did blow that lead, and they didn't win the title, so it's moot.
8.3 points including the last game? that kinda skews things.

also, the lakers just being able to have ALMOST won without a key piece in bynum (despite the uncertainties) provides at LEAST an X-factor the celtics simply do not have.

The Hornets aren't as deep, but the Chandler/West/Paul trio is young, cohesive, and dominant. If I wanted to set my team up to win for the next decade, I'd choose the Hornets' core over the Rockets' or the Lakers'. oh, i agree that they have one of the best young cores but if you're talking just next year like i am, they just aren't deep enough to win a series against the others, imo.

Artest improves the team, without question. However, he plays the same position as Shane Battier, which seems to make him redundant. Maybe Artest can play some minutes at power forward, or maybe McGrady can shift to point guard. Either way, the Rockets will still have trouble defending the paint. Yao is an average shot-blocker at best (and, when you consider his size, a below-average one) and Dikembe Mutombo doesn't have the stamina to play heavy minutes (although he's effective in spurts). I'm not so sure that adding perimeter defense will push the Rockets past the Celtics in the defensive efficiency department.there are multiple rosters that can play out; late game lineups, small lineups (artest at pf), big lineups (t-mac to point). regardless of the lineup, artest's offense is the biggest addition to the rockets. they sorely lacked a 3rd scorer and they finally get a legitimate one. alston suddenly looks better as a 4th option and a facilitator and battier is fresher if he's a 6th man. artest changes a lot of things.

also, yao is an average shot-blocker IN SPITE of his size; he's so big so he has poor vertical leap and slow lateral movement. he's still an effective defender at affecting shots.

also, just imagine doubling yao (which everyone HAS to do to contain him since he CANNOT be guarded 1 on 1 by ANYONE) when you have t-mac and artest there and capable 3 point shooters.

The Boston Three Party is better and less prone to injury, and the teams' defenses are just about equal; even if Artest improves the Rockets' defensive efficiency by 3 points, they'll still trail Boston. In my estimation, the only way in which Houston trumps Boston is in terms of depth. Brooks/Head/Battier/Hayes/Mutombo is better than House/T. Allen/???/Powe/Davis.

I don't disagree that the Rockets will be an elite team this season; that much is certain. But, essentially, my contention is that Boston is still the top dog, so to speak.
injury is the biggest issue. barring that, the rockets are deeper than boston, with equal defense but arguably better offense. just comparing the big 3's from both sides: t-mac = pierce, artest > allen (defensive factor), yao = kg (though yao demands more defensive attention).

[Docker2.0]

I still don't understand why Dallas wouldn't trade Howard for Artest. Howard has reached his peak and he disappears during the playoffs.....not to mention his weed problems and the label soft that Dallas has all around the league. Artest could have taken care of all that but IF Dallas makes the playoffs, it would be as an 8th seed. :o

[The Riddler]

I still don't understand why Dallas wouldn't trade Howard for Artest. Howard has reached his peak and he disappears during the playoffs.....not to mention his weed problems and the label soft that Dallas has all around the league. Artest could have taken care of all that but IF Dallas makes the playoffs, it would be as an 8th seed. :o

yeah, but i think they saw it as bad for them in several ways: artest has only one year on his contract, he is combustible and also that if they lose howard, it'll be a largely lateral move with only slight improvements.

houston not losing anything prevents it from being a lateral move and only adds to their already solid roster. had they had to give up a battier or scola, it would have been similar to dallas' position.

[MBonez12]

new orleans needs to be in the east, both to even the conferences out and because geographically, theyre pretty much in the east. thoughts on this and who should be switched with them into the west?

[LastSunrise1981]

Im gonna go out on a limb and say the mavs dont make the playoffs.

Dallas will make the playoffs you can count on that. Will we win a championship? Time will tell. But we'll be there next year mark my words.

[Docker2.0]

I don't think so. GSW and possibly Portland and the Clips will make it before Dallas.

[LastSunrise1981]

I don't think so. GSW and possibly Portland and the Clips will make it before Dallas.

I don't think GSW will be much of a threat and I don't think the Clips will be much of a threat honestly. Portland, Utah, New Orleans, Los Angeles Lakers, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio are the guarantees of making the playoffs next year. It'll be a tough road for Dallas but they have a training camp with Kidd and Diop is back in the line-up which gives us a much needed interior defense.

Diop is athletic, long, grabs rebounds, and deters the smaller guards from penetrating and getting easy lay-ups.

In any event it's going to be an interesting season and we'll se if Dallas is up to the task.

[Go Web Go!]

Kings & Wolves new jersies for the uni nerds out there...like me...

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2139/kloveminng0.jpg

FAIL

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8434/82125155li6.jpg

UPGRADE

[Bond]

Minnesota's look awful, Kings' look pretty good.

[Ben Urich]

Don't forget about the Magic. :o

http://www.thirdquartercollapse.com/2008/7/30/583031/a-glimpse-of-the-orlando-m

[Bond]

I seriously feel bad that Kevin Love has to wear that ****.

[Go Web Go!]

The Magic & Hornets are also getting new unis, but couldn't find anything on them other than player headshots. I really am beginning to hate the newer looks of NBA jerseys. They look more like NBDL or WNBA garb. Meh.

[Bond]

The Magic's should look pretty good. I've always been a fan of the pinstripes.

I've never had a problem with the Hornet's jerseys. I wonder what those'll look like.

[Ben Urich]

The Hornets are bringing back the pinstripes from their Charlotte days. No photos yet, but a few screencaps from NBA Live 09 (or the other NBA videogame, I forget which). They're also tweaking their logo (streamlining that ugly, stupid, infantile Hugo the Hornet) and their wordmark (using the All-Star 2008 font).

[Bond]

Hmm, that sounds pretty good. The more pinstripes on jerseys, the better.

[Go Web Go!]

Hmm, that sounds pretty good. The more pinstripes on jerseys, the better.

If it were the mid-90's, sure :csad:

[Bond]

If it were the mid-90's, sure :csad:
Haha, I like the old school look.

Can anyone find a pic of the NBA Live screencap of the Hornets new jerseys? I can't find it.

[Go Web Go!]

Haha, I like the old school look.

Can anyone find a pic of the NBA Live screencap of the Hornets new jerseys? I can't find it.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/show_biz/hornets1.jpg

It's not much, but you can clearly tell the pinstripes are a go. Also featured, lame ass new logo. It's a shame they didn't make that kick ass ''Fleur-De-Be'' logo their primary instead of an alternate.

[Bond]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/show_biz/hornets1.jpg

It's not much, but you can clearly tell the pinstripes are a go. Also featured, lame ass new logo. It's a shame they didn't make that kick ass ''Fleur-De-Be'' logo their primary instead of an alternate.
Alright, thanks. :up:

[nolan's roll'n]

Alright, thanks. :up:

Dude can you give me some more screen shots of NBA Live 09?

[Bond]

Dude can you give me some more screen shots of NBA Live 09?
If you go here (http://www.easports.com/nbalive09/) there's a bunch of them. Just look under "media" and there's a "screenshots" section.

[Nightmare]

Is it better than 2K?

[nolan's roll'n]

If you go here (http://www.easports.com/nbalive09/) there's a bunch of them. Just look under "media" and there's a "screenshots" section.

Looks impressive! :woot:

[Bond]

Is it better than 2K?
My guess is yes. I've never played an NBA Live game before though. I'm a 2K man myself. :O

[nolan's roll'n]

My guess is yes. I've never played an NBA Live game before though. I'm a 2K man myself. :O

Thanks dude for the pics. :yay:

[Bond]

Thanks dude for the pics. :yay:
No problem. :up:

[Ben Urich]

You can see the updated Hornets logo beter than you can see the uniform, lol.

Love the new font. Hate that they kept the stupid hornet.

[Docker2.0]

Josh Howard got arrested for speed racing. That Ron Artest deal doesn't seem that bad now does it. :o

[Nightmare]

Josh Howard got arrested for speed racing. That Ron Artest deal doesn't seem that bad now does it. :o

Nice avy :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

Josh Howard got arrested for speed racing. That Ron Artest deal doesn't seem that bad now does it. :o

Oh wow, Josh Howard arrested for speeding. Whereas Artest was arrested for domestic abuse and is a cancer to a team. Hmm, I'll take Josh Howard, at least we don't have to worry about him leaving to record a rap album and disrupt team chemistry. :o

You can knock the Mavs all you want, but they're not troublemakers and this is the first Mavs player to have gotten into any kind of trouble with law enforcement for a while. Jason Kidd hasn't had any problems after being accusred of abusing his wife(soon to be ex).

[Nightmare]

Doesnt matter, mavs wont even make the playoffs this coming season.

[Go Web Go!]

Oh wow, Josh Howard arrested for speeding. Whereas Artest was arrested for domestic abuse and is a cancer to a team. Hmm, I'll take Josh Howard, at least we don't have to worry about him leaving to record a rap album and disrupt team chemistry. :o

You can knock the Mavs all you want, but they're not troublemakers and this is the first Mavs player to have gotten into any kind of trouble with law enforcement for a while. Jason Kidd hasn't had any problems after being accusred of abusing his wife(soon to be ex).


It won't be long before Howard is seen as a problem child around the league after this run-in, along with him admitting to smoking marijuana.

[Bond]

****ing JHo. I want him to go away.

[Ben Urich]

Who cares if he smokes pot? So does Brad Miller, who also admitted to having an alcohol problem. I'm more concerned that he was caught drag racing at 94 miles an hour.

[LastSunrise1981]

Doesnt matter, mavs wont even make the playoffs this coming season.

You're so convinced the Mavs won't make the playoffs. How stupid will you look when they make it to the playoffs? Yeah they won't be a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th seed. But they'll be there at the end of the season and will continue to be there for quite sometime.

[Go Web Go!]

Who cares if he smokes pot? So does Brad Miller, who also admitted to having an alcohol problem. I'm more concerned that he was caught drag racing at 94 miles an hour.

Yeah, I know - who cares? I don't, but at the same time, he can get suspended (much like Miller was to start this coming season) and THAT doesn't help the team in any way.

[The Riddler]

Is it better than 2K?

wtf kind of question is this.

of course not; 2k is easily the best basketball game available right now. and yes, i've played both. live is just bad.

[The Riddler]

You're so convinced the Mavs won't make the playoffs. How stupid will you look when they make it to the playoffs? Yeah they won't be a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th seed. But they'll be there at the end of the season and will continue to be there for quite sometime.

honestly, i only see 2 spots up for grabs.

houston, la, new orleans, san antonio, utah are pretty much locks.

phoenix is close to being a lock.

that means you have 2 spots left with golden state (sans baron davis but still dangerous with recent additions), portland (up and coming team with potential), denver (lost camby, but still can score) along with newly decent teams like the clippers. dallas definitely has a good shot at one of the lower seeds, but it's not a lock by any means.

[Ben Urich]

Portland's a lock.

Also, new Hornets logo:
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff183/thedorf08/29def3fc.png

[Ben Urich]

Clippers sign Jason Williams.

[Docker2.0]

Clippers sign Jason Williams.

:dry:

I see the Clips going to the playoffs faster than GS. Baron and Al Thornton form a pretty lethal combo. Throw in Kaman who is HIGHLY underrated and I see these guys being a threat.

[Ben Urich]

:dry:

I see the Clips going to the playoffs faster than GS. Baron and Al Thornton form a pretty lethal combo. Throw in Kaman who is HIGHLY underrated and I see these guys being a threat.

I think they'll be better than people might expect -- they caught some undeserved flak after losing Brand -- but they aren't a playoff team. They're probably even with Golden State in terms of talent. Golden State's younger, though.

That'll be an interesting rivalry. THey basically traded Maggette and Davis to one another, and the Clippers tried to sign Kelenna Azubuike (UNDERRATED!) but the Warriors matched.

Final thought on the Clippers: Baron Davis and Jason Williams are the point guards. I can has defense?

No, cannot has. :csad:

[L.A.]

damn my clips aint playing around! But I could only imagine what this team would be like if we still had brand!!:(

[Dark Donnie]

Grizzlies sign Josh Smith to offer sheet

The Grizzlies have signed Hawks restricted free agent Josh Smith to a $58 million offer sheet, according to Ronald Tillery of the Memphis Edge. No word yet on the length of the offer.

The Hawks have promised to match any offers for Smith, and they now have seven days to prove it. "Should the Griz land Smith he is expected to play power forward alongside Rudy Gay at small forward, O.J. Mayo at shooting guard and Mike Conley at point guard," writes Tillery. The Grizzlies (and Hawks) desperately need Smith's shot-blocking ability, and if Smith goes to Memphis, Hakim Warrick would come off the bench. But it's hard to imagine the Hawks losing both Josh Childress and Smith this summer. Aug. 8 - 10:28 am et
Source: Memphis Edge blog

[MBonez12]

^that is a solid young group of guys. if they get some chemistry, i could see them in the playoffs not this year but definately next

[Ben Urich]

Hawks will match.

[nolan's roll'n]

I know this is off-topic but why does NBA Live give us the same game every year, just new music and updated rosters? :o

I used to look forward to buying this game every year until they started doing this. How it sells millions is beyond me. :cmad:

[Docker2.0]

Griz are crazy! No way I'd put Smith at Power Forward. I'm surprised the Spurs haven't made a run for him.

[MBonez12]

Griz are crazy! No way I'd put Smith at Power Forward. I'm surprised the Spurs haven't made a run for him.

where else are you gonna put him? rudy gay is your 3 and cant be your 2 cuz oj mayo is your 2, and oj mayo cant be your 1 cuz mike conleys your 1. he gets more blocks than almost every other pf anyway, why not put him there?

[Go Web Go!]

^that is a solid young group of guys. if they get some chemistry, i could see them in the playoffs not this year but definately next

Yeah, no.

[Ben Urich]

They'd put Josh Smith at power forward because he is a power forward. :dry:

[Darthphere]

Crazy talk Ben.

[Nightmare]

It'll be interesting to see if the hawks match that offer. That money isnt insane for josh smith.

[Docker2.0]

He played the 4 in Atl cuase they were stupid enough to draft like 8 players who are all 6'8. His natural position is the 3. Just like Horford playing the 5 when he's really a 4 cuase he's only 6'9. They already have a 6'9 tweener in Griz land already named Hakeem Warrick, why add another?

[Go Web Go!]

Hawks matched.

[Docker2.0]

Freakin Hawks! :cmad:

[Docker2.0]

When did the Nuggets get Renaldo Balkman and who did they get him for? :huh:

[Go Web Go!]

When did the Nuggets get Renaldo Balkman and who did they get him for? :huh:

Like 2 weeks ago for...pretty much nothing.

[Docker2.0]

Freakin Knicks! Why not get rid of Collins?! Balkman hustled! And is a poor man's Rodman with skills.

[Nightmare]

Hawks matched.

Woah. That was Quick.

[Ben Urich]

Freakin Knicks! Why not get rid of Collins?! Balkman hustled! And is a poor man's Rodman with skills.

He can't shoot, and D'Antoni coaches the Knicks. Balkman wouldn't work in his system.

[LastSunrise1981]

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[Lobo]

Freakin Knicks! Why not get rid of Collins?! Balkman hustled! And is a poor man's Rodman with skills.

Collins will be cut

[nolan's roll'n]

Team USA, here....we...GO!!!!!!!

[nolan's roll'n]

Freakin Knicks! Why not get rid of Collins?! Balkman hustled! And is a poor man's Rodman with skills.

Hey man I love your avvy! :wow:

[Ghostvirus]

2 more months b*tchs! WOOOO!!!!!

[LastSunrise1981]

I believe all of the teams have released their official schedule for the upcoming season. Dallas will start their season off against Houston.

Another thing I wanted to point out is star players taking part in the Olympics. I am against the usage of superstars such as Jason Kidd, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe, Dwayne Wade, and etc in the Olympics when they should be resting for the upcoming season. These guys play an 82 game season and if they make the playoffs that's more basketball that leaves them with no rest and at a higher risk for injuries.

Yeah these guys are in shape to play the game of basketball and should be able to handle the stress of said sport. However, maybe that's the games aren't as competitive as they used to be. Let's face it the playoffs this year was very lackluster, not competitive, and wasn't that exciting and I do believe that's due to the 82 games, the summer Olympics, and so forth.

[ElToro]

Well,this years finals did suck a little,i have to say it was really boring.

I hope this year the Golden State Warriors can make it at least to the playoffs.

[Go Web Go!]

I believe all of the teams have released their official schedule for the upcoming season. Dallas will start their season off against Houston.

Another thing I wanted to point out is star players taking part in the Olympics. I am against the usage of superstars such as Jason Kidd, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe, Dwayne Wade, and etc in the Olympics when they should be resting for the upcoming season. These guys play an 82 game season and if they make the playoffs that's more basketball that leaves them with no rest and at a higher risk for injuries.

Yeah these guys are in shape to play the game of basketball and should be able to handle the stress of said sport. However, maybe that's the games aren't as competitive as they used to be. Let's face it the playoffs this year was very lackluster, not competitive, and wasn't that exciting and I do believe that's due to the 82 games, the summer Olympics, and so forth.

I'm not a huge fan of it either, but the players obviously have a choice and those who are on the team see representing their country in the Olympics as a huge opportunity/honor.

[Dr. Evil]

Anyone expecting Kevin Durant to leave Oklahoma City in a few years?

[Dr. Evil]

Double post. Damn server.

[ElToro]

Anyone expecting Kevin Durant to leave Oklahoma City in a few years?

Maby..it could happen.

[Docker2.0]

Nope. I think he'll stay put but I wish he would. Darn Sonics or whatever they are called deserve it.

[Nightmare]

Jenaveve Jolie is mine Now!


USA 2-0 so far.

[Docker2.0]

Hey man I love your avvy! :wow:

It's not about the avy, its about my posts! :cmad:

[Go Web Go!]

Anyone expecting Kevin Durant to leave Oklahoma City in a few years?

It would be difficult for him to leave anytime soon. Unless he's traded (which is very unlikely) the earliest he would be able to leave OKC would be sometime around 2012-13.

[Dr. Evil]

It would be difficult for him to leave anytime soon. Unless he's traded (which is very unlikely) the earliest he would be able to leave OKC would be sometime around 2012-13.

Did not think he signed for that long.

[Ben Urich]

As stipulated in the most recent collective-bargaining agreement, all first-round draft picks have two-year contracts, with team options on the third and fourth years. The dollar amounts on those contracts are fixed as well (based on the player's draft position). Thus, there's little room for negotiating with first-round picks after they're drafted. It's a mere formality.

ANYWAY, teams use those options, with rare exception: Patrick O'Bryant (Golden State, 9th overall in 2006, sucked) is the most recent example. Things might have worked out if the Dubs hadn't hired Don Nelson shortly after drafting O'Bryant, a seven-foot true center with no jumpshot or athleticism.

ANYWAY, assuming their teams exercise their options after seasons two and three, Durant (and Oden, and Horford, and everyone else from 2007) will enter restricted free-agency in summer 2011. Alternatively, they can sign long-term extensions (as Chris Paul and Deron Williams did this summer, and as Dwight Howard did last summer) in 2010, and thus forgo restricted free-agency in 2011.

Durant's probably stuck in Oklahoma City. Unless he plays hardball during the free-agency period, the Thunder will simply match any offer sheet he brings to them, and retain his services. Same goes for Russell Westbrook and all their other young studs.

The vets (Collison, Wilcox, Ridnour, etc.) will walk at the first opportunity.

[nolan's roll'n]

USA 2-0, next game thursday. Wade is doing good.

[Ben Urich]

Cavaliers, Bucks, and Thunder complete three-team trade.

Cleveland gets Mo Williams
Milwaukee gets Luke Ridnour and Adrian Griffin
Oklahoma City gets Joe Smith and Desmond Mason

:huh:

[Docker2.0]

OC comes out the winner in that trade. I say put Mason at the 2 and its a straight dunk-fest! Athleticism at every position! Cleveland.....Williams.....meh. He needs the ball in his hand a lot to be effective and I can't see that happening in Cleveland with LBJ. Its a good effort but again......LBJ will be alone again this year. His best sidekick was Larry Hughes in a contract year. It's hard to play beside a guy who demands the ball all the AND plays point guard a lot. :csad:

[Ben Urich]

Oh, Damon Jones went somewhere too. I forget where. Doesn't matter. Dude won't play anyway. :o

[nolan's roll'n]

Team USA 3-0. Wade has been amazing thus far.

[Nightmare]

OKC "Thunder" is that official? Thats an awful name.

[Dr. Evil]

OKC "Thunder" is that official? Thats an awful name.

I don't think it's official yet. An announcement probably won't be made until after the Olympics, if it is official.

[Go Web Go!]

Not official, but it's been one of the worst kept secrets the NBA has seen.

[nolan's roll'n]

Oklahoma City Thunder is the lamest thing that I have heard. Couldn't they have come up with something better?

[Ben Urich]

Yeah, it was all over the NBA's website last week. Not an official announcement, but little clues. Like the broken link where the team logo is supposed to be on players' pages was "thunder.jpg" before the league went ape**** and fixed it all. Stuff like that.

[Nightmare]

I was hoping for the Barons. Good god "Thunder" is awful.

[Raiden]

Oklahoma City Thunder is the lamest thing that I have heard. Couldn't they have come up with something better?

Terrible name, even worse than "Bobcats". They should've kept the Sonics name imo.

[Ben Urich]

Part of the agreement that allowed the team to break its lease and move was that the team name, colors, championship banner, etc. be left in Seattle.

Some people think the Thunder's logo might be a pack of charging Bison. I guess it makes sense. :huh:

[Dr. Evil]

Was anyone surprised when NBC mentioned that the most popular American Athlete at the Summer Olympics was Kobe Bryant?

[Dr. Evil]

:lmao::funny: at this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3539904

[Go Web Go!]

T-Wolves cartoony, WNBA-ish uni's have officially been unveiled.

http://www.nba.com/media/timberwolves/wolves_new_uniforms_292_080818.jpg

Hornets unveiling new unis tomorrow.

[nolan's roll'n]

T-Wolves cartoony, WNBA-ish uni's have officially been unveiled.

http://www.nba.com/media/timberwolves/wolves_new_uniforms_292_080818.jpg

Hornets unveiling new unis tomorrow.

Wow they look crappy.

[Darthphere]

It fits with their status as a team.

[MoPlaYa]

They are a crappy team but they do have some nice pieces to build around in Jefferson,Love and Brewer

[Nightmare]

Who designs these awful jersey's? Those are worse then the mavericks metallic ones from a couple years ago.

[Go Web Go!]

Who designs these awful jersey's? Those are worse then the mavericks metallic ones from a couple years ago.

You can thank the folks over at Adidas for the majority of the crap uniforms in the NBA.

[nolan's roll'n]

You can thank the folks over at Adidas for the majority of the crap uniforms in the NBA.

Nike owns, it is so much better. Adidas is crap.

[nolan's roll'n]

Wade deserves an award for how well he is playing in the olympics.

[Nightmare]

Maybe he'll push the heat to the playoffs this coming season.

[Go Web Go!]

Wade deserves an award for how well he is playing in the olympics.


Yes. Yeeees! :word:

[nolan's roll'n]

Yes. Yeeees! :word:
Micheal Jordan's personal trainer is Dwyane Wade's, the commentators were saying in the USA basketball game.

[nolan's roll'n]

So far Kobe is struggling

[Nightmare]

So far Kobe is struggling

He must think its the finals! :cmad:

[Go Web Go!]

Hornets new duds. Upgrade, but way too similar to Denver's.

http://ourworld.cs.com/CCU%20Terry/Untitled-1%20copy.jpg

[Nightmare]

The away's look exactly like denver's and the home's look like Orlandos old jerseys.

[Go Web Go!]

They may STILL look like the Magic's home jersies. Orlando's bringing back the pinstripes this year as well. Uni unveiling in late September...yes, I am the resident logo/jersey geek.

[Raiden]

He must think its the finals! :cmad:

Well, Kobe scored 25 pts in the last game, so cut him some slacks, would you?

[Nightmare]

Well, Kobe scored 25 pts in the last game, so cut him some slacks, would you?

No. :whatever:

Look at my location too. *hint hint*

[Go Web Go!]

Has anyone even been watching the games? They're too damn early in the morning. I haven't seen one game and because ESPN isn't allowed to broadcast hightlights, I haven't seen any. I guess YouTube is the way to go. Anyway, it's pretty annoying/upsetting for me. I watched every game in '04 when they were airing the games at a decent time. I'm leaving for work by tip-off. >:-(

[Nightmare]

I usually just hear about what happend on the radio, i dont really catch the games at all unless maybe highlights are on my local news. I think theyre only 2 wins away from a gold medal.

[Ben Urich]

NBC takes the clips off YouTube, too. You have to go to their website to watch the games/highlights.

I just DVR the things myself.

Also, the gold-medal game is this Sunday at 2:30 AM. That's Saturday going into Sunday. 2:30 in the morning. Jesus.

[Nightmare]

Those are EST right?

[Dr. Evil]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5966/newlogo2ah8.jpg

[Go Web Go!]

NBC takes the clips off YouTube, too. You have to go to their website to watch the games/highlights.

I just DVR the things myself.

Also, the gold-medal game is this Sunday at 2:30 AM. That's Saturday going into Sunday. 2:30 in the morning. Jesus.

That I CAN do :word:

[Ben Urich]

Yeah, times are EST. Pretty sure NBC only broadcasts live to EST and CST... everything else is tape-delay. Bollocks. :down:

[MoPlaYa]

Has Kareem Rush signed with any team? I think if the bulls are getting rid of Gordon for a PF then they should go after Rush to play backup SG. I always thought he would be a good fit there.

[Bond]

Those jerseys are pretty cool.

[Go Web Go!]

Has Kareem Rush signed with any team? I think if the bulls are getting rid of Gordon for a PF then they should go after Rush to play backup SG. I always thought he would be a good fit there.

Signed with the Sixers

[Dr. Evil]

Team USA has been praised for showing enthusiasm for these Olympics, unlike four years ago, where they could not give a damn about what was going on.

[Go Web Go!]

It's not that they didn't give a damn. Why do you think guys like Wade, LeBron, and Carmelo came back in '08? They wanted to bring gold back to the US. If you want to single someone out for not caring then look up Larry Brown. The guy had no clue how to coach that team. Anyhow, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure I'm still up at 2:30am & watching from start to finish.

[Ghostvirus]

Why in the hell doesn't the coaches get Medals?!? That is BS!

[Dr. Evil]

Kobe is going to have bragging rights over Pau all season long.

[Darthphere]

His 3 NBA Championships and MVP don't give him that already?

[Go Web Go!]

Why in the hell doesn't the coaches get Medals?!? That is BS!

Because they're not the ones competing..

I'm sure they won't mind seeing how they have some kind of bonus coming to them for leading the US win.

[Darthphere]

D-Wade lit up the Olympics...off the bench. The Heat are going places this season.

[Dr. Evil]

Thank goodness that the United States came away with no injuries as its six weeks till training camp. Is it too soon to name a 2012 squad? Because I see Kevin Durant playing in London in 2012.

[Nightmare]

I think atleast Coach Kryzaewqewkski should get a ring.

[Dr. Evil]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0824/oly_g_james_kidd_580.jpg

[Nightmare]

Lebronze couldnt do it without Kobe.

[Dr. Evil]

Isn't training camp in a month for these guys?

[Dr. Evil]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0824/oly_g_team_usa7_412.jpg

[Go Web Go!]

Thank goodness that the United States came away with no injuries as its six weeks till training camp. Is it too soon to name a 2012 squad? Because I see Kevin Durant playing in London in 2012.

Well, seeing how they ask players to commit 3 years prior to the Olympics in order to prepare for qualifying, get accustomed to one another, etc. I would think they would get the process underway by sometime next year. Howard & Paul have already said they would come back if asked.

EDIT: Did anyone else even notice that Michael Redd is on the team?

[Darthphere]

Yeah, it's like they couldn't get Ray Allen so they brought the cheap chinese made counterfeit knockoff.

[Soundwave]

Oh no! Just heard that former Portland Trailblazer Kevin Duckworth passed today. He was only 44. Gone way too soon.

Even though they never won anything those early 90's Blazers teams were fun to watch and he was a big part of that. RIP Kevin.

[Silver Knight]

Dang I was just going to start an official NBA 08/09 thread.

Anyway GO HORNETS!

I honestly can not wait for the new season to start.

[Silver Knight]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5966/newlogo2ah8.jpgYESSS SIR!!!

[MoPlaYa]

What ever happened with Jay Williams from Duke? I know about his accident but didnt he try and make a come back?

[Silver Knight]

He tried but didnt make a roster.

[Docker2.0]

That's a nasty lesson into why not to ride a motorbike and play pro sports. Here's hopin more athletes listen.

[Go Web Go!]

Knicks have traded for Patrick Ewing, Jr.

Good luck filling those shoes.

[Silver Knight]

He is going to need more then luck..

[Nightmare]

Now they can all bring out there retro ewing jerseys

[MoPlaYa]

Ewing Jr will put asses in the seats at NY...lol j/j

[Lobo]

Ewing Jr = Balkman

[Silver Knight]

Ewing Jr = Balkman
With a better jumpshot.

[Ben Urich]

Lebronze couldnt do it without Kobe.

:dry:

[The Riddler]

:dry:

well, it is true. :hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

So how if Hurricane Gustav going to affect the Hornets upcoming season, especially if (god forbid) this becomes worse then Katrina?

[MoPlaYa]

Wow...No NBA news in a bit?

[Silver Knight]

Isnt the name of the OKC team going to be announced any second now?

[Nightmare]

The thunder have an awful name and an awful logo. Its WNBA bad.

[Bond]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3567481

Chalmers, Arthur caught with marijuana at rookie camp
March Madness heroes Mario Chalmers and Darrell Arthur were thrown out of the NBA's rookie transition program on Wednesday morning after being caught in their hotel room with marijuana and women, according to several sources.

They just instantly became bff's with Josh Howard.

[Nightmare]

Sup Miatch.

[Raiden]

The thunder have an awful name and an awful logo. Its WNBA bad.

I agree. It sounds as awful as Detroit Shock from WNBA.

[Mister J]

If OKC logo is the same one I saw earlier, the first thing that came to mind was that it looks like the NY Liberty logo. :down
Then I wondered to myself why the **** did I know what the NY Liberty's logo looked like. :confused:

Mario Chalmers and Darrell Arthur are idiots. How stupid do you have to be tokin' at the Rookie Camp? :confused:

[Nightmare]

Wow, they were smokin at the damn rookie camp? Damn. Talk about idiots.