Official 2008-09 NBA Thread

[Ghostvirus]

Isn't that Arthur dude the one that fell heavy in the draft, & noone knew why? Well I think we know now.

[Dr. Evil]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0903/nba_thunder1_300.jpg

The Oklahoma City Thunder will wear blue, orange and yellow colors.

[Nightmare]

:down :down :down

Horrible.

[Dr. Evil]

My condolences go out to Kevin Durant for wearing those colors.

[Go Web Go!]

Wow, they were smokin at the damn rookie camp? Damn. Talk about idiots.

Yes, but with WOMEN! Seriously though...you have to be an idiot to even THINK about smoking on a team run by freakin' Pat Riley. He's getting a fine, a possible suspension, and a cozy spot on Riles' ****list. Way to go, Chalmers.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0903/nba_thunder1_300.jpg

The Oklahoma City Thunder will wear blue, orange and yellow colors.

LOGO FAIL.

Looks like a guitar pick skiing down a mountain of suck.

[Immortalfire]

Bogus name, ugly colors.

[Immortalfire]

If OKC logo is the same one I saw earlier, the first thing that came to mind was that it looks like the NY Liberty logo. :down
Then I wondered to myself why the **** did I know what the NY Liberty's logo looked like. :confused:


:lmao:

[Bond]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0903/nba_thunder1_300.jpg

The Oklahoma City Thunder will wear blue, orange and yellow colors.
facepalm

[Silver Knight]

That Thunder logo could well be the worst logo in sports history.

[Nightmare]

Someone should put the words "Epic Fail" under that logo.

[Go Web Go!]

I've heard nothing but backlash when it comes to that ugly thing. I wonder if they would consider changing it because of the negative feedback. Probably not because it'll cost money...and billionaire owners hate spending money.

[Silver Knight]

Plus its too late, the season starts in month or so.

[Dr. Evil]

the only thing good that Oklahoma City has for them is Kevin Durant and I highly doubt he will want to wear those colors for more then five years. In five years, Durant will end up in Los Angeles, Philly, New York, Chicago or Brooklyn.

[Ghostvirus]

The owner of this team fails in everyway.:down:

[Silver Knight]

the owner of this team fails in everyway.:down:
Qft.

[ih8nyy]

OKC should have come up with a better nickname.

Oklahoma City Settlers
Oklahoma City Barons
Oklahoma City Rattlers
Oklahoma City Wranglers
Oklahoma City Roughnecks

I mean come on, how tough is that? Friggin Thunder.

They never should have been allowed to leave Seattle in the first place. David Stern is almost as big an idiot as Gary Bettman. Almost.

[ih8nyy]

Oh and Honestly, the Sonics Nickname would have fit too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_sonic_boom_tests

[Silver Knight]

Oklahoma City Bandits would do them justice.

[ih8nyy]

Oklahoma City Bandits would do them justice.

Yes it would.

See. So many better names and they settle on "thunder" that is an Epic Fail if there ever was one.

And I see what you did there.

[Raiden]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0903/nba_thunder1_300.jpg

The Oklahoma City Thunder will wear blue, orange and yellow colors.

I think if they rename it to Oklahoma City TROPIC Thunder, it'll get my vote. :hehe:

[ih8nyy]

I think if they rename it to Oklahoma City TROPIC Thunder, it'll get my vote. :hehe:

They can fly around on a G5!

[Silver Knight]

Yes it would.

See. So many better names and they settle on "thunder" that is an Epic Fail if there ever was one.

And I see what you did there.
:up:

[fu manchu]

the name of thunder and that logo is awful. just awful. then again the team would likely be awful, so there would be plenty of load noises of boos in the stadium.

[Darthphere]

So how many NBA teams are rocking orange and blue now?

[Nightmare]

the name of thunder and that logo is awful. just awful. then again the team would likely be awful, so there would be plenty of load noises of boos in the stadium.

Will there fans be selling out there arenas nightly for a horrible team? Itd be pretty funny for them to have wnba type attendence.

[ih8nyy]

So how many NBA teams are rocking orange and blue now?

There are 8 teams the feature some shade of blue with either orange or yellow.

[fu manchu]

Will there fans be selling out there arenas nightly for a horrible team? Itd be pretty funny for them to have wnba type attendance.

i don't think the NBA would allow Oklahoma City to have a team if they projected that the attendances to be low.

btw, i believe the bulls and knicks have good attendances.

[Nightmare]

bulls and knicks fans are die hard. :up:

[Raiden]

the name of thunder and that logo is awful. just awful. then again the team would likely be awful, so there would be plenty of load noises of boos in the stadium.

At least there will be puns about the "thundering" sounds of boo. :woot:

[Mister J]

Crap. This means there'll likely be a resurgence in those annoying 'thunder sticks'. I hate those damn things.

Of course, I hate a lot of things.

[Bunker]

Crap. This means there'll likely be a resurgence in those annoying 'thunder sticks'. I hate those damn things.

Of course, I hate a lot of things.

Blame the Angels.

[Nightmare]

Blame the Angels for the Ralley Monkey. Glad that died off.

[fu manchu]

i miss the rally monkey. but the angels don't him.

[bbf2]

Congratulations, they chose the most boring combination they could think of.

Too bad, I thought the black and white decor they wore in the Summer League was pretty cool.

[Silver Knight]

The colours should have been black, purple and white.

[Bunker]

They should have kept Barons.

[ih8nyy]

They should have kept Barons.

They should have just stayed in Seattle.

[nolan's roll'n]

They should have just stayed in Seattle.
Agreed.

[Bunker]

They should have just stayed in Seattle.

QFT. :csad:

[Excel]

Why didnt they go with Oklahomah City Bombers???

Ok, that was tasteless. And btw I will be at he Celts season opener against the Cavs...itl be sick! Banner revealing...:up:

[Nightmare]

Hope the cavs win by 40 :cmad:

[Bunker]

I might be going to a Nets-Cavs game in November.

[Nightmare]

Cool..

[Bunker]

Cool..

Haha. :o

[Nightmare]

Haha. :o

:cmad:

[Bunker]

:cmad:

The Blazers are gonna make the Lakers their b***h this year, trufax.

[Nightmare]

Oh yeah? Blazers got a crap load of talent. But there still young and very raw. Plus old man Oden is still un-proven in the NBA. Opening night without kobe, should be a W for the Lakers.

[Bunker]

We shall see. I'm tempted to jump on the Blazers bandwagon, but I'm sticking with the Suns.

[Nightmare]

The Suns? lol.. Shaq Daddy should come back motivated and on a ruthless tear this season!! Up until he gets hurt and gains 20 lbs while on the Injured List. Atleast Grant Hill's knees will hold up!

[Bunker]

"The Suns? lol"

Surprised?

[Nightmare]

Nah, that seems like a pick Bunker would make.

[Bunker]

What's that supposed to mean?

[Nightmare]

Well if you cant figure it out, im not gonna tell you :cwink:

[Bunker]

Meanie.

[Nightmare]

Ok, so Lakers with a healthy bynum and healthy ariza can get passed the celtics?

[Bunker]

Nevah.

[Nightmare]

Cool, nice breakdown :up:

[Bunker]

KG, Pierce, and Allen would be to much to handle even with those two, plus the Celtics have a better bench.

[Ghostvirus]

:cmad:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3493/animatedbulllq9.gif

[ih8nyy]

Bunk, your knees must be killing you from jumping on and off bandwagons.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg277/cpoconnor/aheathosnap.png

[Bunker]

:whatever:

[Nightmare]

Dont forget, posey is gone now. His replacement? Darius Miles.

[Lobo]

i hope the NY/Memphis trade goes down soon.

[Go Web Go!]

i hope the NY/Memphis trade goes down soon.

:huh:

[Silver Knight]

:huh:
Randolph for Millicic and Jarkic.

[Lobo]

Randolph for Millicic and Jarkic.

Yep it's Zach for Darko and Marko. It saves the Knicks 10 million in 2010 and gets Randolph off the team. And, i could see Darko as a back up for Eddy and Lee. Zach says he thinks he'll be on Memphis tin the next week or so, and darko and his agent said the same about NY, and from the Grizz and Knicks boards I visited rcently all sides seem happy.

[Silver Knight]

It will be completed soon I think.

[Nightmare]

Lobo a knick fan?

[Lobo]

Yep Knicks, Giants, and Yankees in case anyone was wondering

oh and Rangers but Hockey doesn't really count :p

[Nightmare]

Atleast your loyal to all your teams.

Nowadays i see Yankee/Cowboys/lakers fans.

[Lobo]

Nope, is stick to my hometown boys

[Raiden]

Atleast your loyal to all your teams.

Nowadays i see Yankee/Cowboys/lakers fans.

I'm a Yankee/Lakers fan because Yankees was the team I started liking after I lived in Brooklyn for a few years in my youth, but I didn't care much about basketball until I moved back to LA. So I like some NY teams and some LA teams.

[fu manchu]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txlakersbryant&prov=st&type=lgns

Lakers G Bryant opts against surgery

LOS ANGELES (TICKER) —Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant has decided not to have surgery on his right pinkie finger.

The NBA’s reigning MVP, Bryant announced Tuesday on his web site, kb24.com, that he opted against surgery when he learned that it could keep him sidelined for 12 weeks.

“When the doctors told me recovery from a procedure could be 12 weeks, I just decided now was not the time to have surgery,” Bryant said.

Bryant, 30, played in all 82 games and averaged 28.3 points last season despite suffering ligament damage in the pinkie against the New Jersey Nets on February 5. The Lakers reached the NBA Finals, losing to the Boston Celtics in six games.

“I’ve always felt that I can still focus and play at a high level even though various injuries,” Bryant said. “That’s just part of the game.”

Offseason surgery was recommended, but Bryant postponed the operation to play in the Beijing Olympics, where he helped lead the United States to the gold medal.

“I am just really excited and looking forward to be being there with the guys when camp opens in a few weeks,” Bryant said.

The Lakers open camp on September 27 and host the Portland Trail Blazers in their season opener on October 28.

so what time is good for surgery, kobe?

[Docker2.0]

I could kind of understand Kobe for opting to wait for it. Its important he sets the tone for his team......and this is coming from a guy who can't stand Kobe, but I respect his game. Plus the surgery isn't necessary per say.
Anyway, I'm so waiting for Randolph to be traded and Marbury to be bought out. I GUARANTEE the Knicks will make the playoffs. Even though Curry is a fat arse crybaby, with Darko behind him, it might push him to work hard. I actually think Darko would thrive under Dantoni and under the right circumstances.

[Silver Knight]

Kobe knows whats best for him.

[Raiden]

I was hoping Kobe would take the surgery, because I don't think it's that important for him to miss the pre-season anyway. And surgery will prevent that injury from getting worse down the line. However, I guess Kobe has heard from the specialists and concluded that the injury isn't too detrimental that he needs surgery right away, so he is putting it off. I hope he makes the right decision.

[MoPlaYa]

I`m hoping the Bulls sign and trade Gordon

[Nightmare]

sign and trade Gordon where? How much does he want? like 7 years, 80 mill?

[Zephyr Alexian]

Go Lakers. And that's it.

Yeah, we were crushed, but this year is our year. *Healthy Kobe, *Healthy Bynum, more experienced Gasol, and a deeper squad.

Yeah.

*I hope I don't live to regret this post.

[Ghostvirus]

I`m hoping the Bulls sign and trade Gordon

Me to. Gordon is a waste of F-ing space. Especially now that they have Rose, but like someone said. Where would he go after the debacle of last year everybodies worth on that team has dropped dramatically.

Go Lakers. And that's it.

Yeah, we were crushed, but this year is our year. *Healthy Kobe, *Healthy Bynum, more experienced Gasol, and a deeper squad.

Yeah.

*I hope I don't live to regret this post.

You already should. Kobe isn't exactly healthy.:dry:

[Zephyr Alexian]

You already should. Kobe isn't exactly healthy.:dry:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3578123

[Nightmare]

Kobe played almost all of last season with that injury. Guess Ghostvirus missed that part.

[Go Web Go!]

The Bulls called Miami about Gordon, but they said no thanks...thankfully.

[nolan's roll'n]

The Bulls called Miami about Gordon, but they said no thanks...thankfully.
What's wrong with Gordon going to Miami? He's a good player and he would do good with the Heat.

[Mister J]

Thank Zeus.

Gordon might as well get on the Europe Gravy Train. He turned down 5Y/50M last year and was when he still had some value. I don't see why anybody is going to sign up to pay that kind of coin for an undersized, streaky 2 guard with limited ball handling skills. Get a reality check, Ben.

[nolan's roll'n]

I think he should retire right now, he isn't worth 20 million a year and Phoenix is getting ripped off big time. Your thoughts?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Shaquille-O-Neal-done-in-2010-?urn=nba,107277

[Ghostvirus]

Kobe played almost all of last season with that injury. Guess Ghostvirus missed that part.

Being injured for a really long time does not mean you are healthy. That injury is going to catch up with him at some point, so until he takes care of it he isn't healthy.

[NewYorkSpider]

My first thought was that this should have been put in the NBA thread. :up: Kazaam!!!

[L.A.]

Shaquille O'Neal ... done in 2010?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Shaquille-O-Neal-done-in-2010-?urn=nba,107277

[Anti-Moderator]

Good. He sucks.

[Nightmare]

2010? he's already done.

Kobe has played with injuries since 1999, who knows when the last time he's been 100% "Fully Healthy"

[Ghostvirus]

Shaquille O'Neal ... done in 2010?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Shaquille-O-Neal-done-in-2010-?urn=nba,107277

Wow, that dude, & the comments are really harsh. So let me get this straight. Kobe makes it to the finals, & everbody is back to being in love with him?....:whatever:

EDIT: But yes Shaq should retire. He is not helping anyone especially himself by sticking around.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Not all people love Kobe. Still, he has the work ethic and put in the time. O'neal coasted . . . a lot. Fans felt that way even before he left LA.

[Bunker]

I still dislike Kobe, nothing will ever change that.

[Ghostvirus]

Unfortunetly that does seem to be true. Shaq seems to be not pulling his weight. It will be interesting to see how he does in Pheonix with a full season under his belt. I have a feeling he will be traded again before he retires.

[Go Web Go!]

I'm glad the Heat got rid of him when they did. Either Pat Riley is the best at what he does or Steve Kerr is that big of an idiot.

[Silver Knight]

I`m hoping the Bulls sign and trade Gordon
No one wants him.

[Raiden]

I'm glad the Heat got rid of him when they did. Either Pat Riley is the best at what he does or Steve Kerr is that big of an idiot.

I think Steve Kerr saw the Suns' window is closing fast, so he made a desperate shot at a championship last season (and also to get rid of the trouble-maker Marion). But after they got ousted in the playoff, this trade has became a bust for Suns.

[Silver Knight]

Suns have had their chances in 05 06 and 07.

Time to rebuild and start fresh.

[Go Web Go!]

Rebuild how? Trade away Nash, Shaq, and Amare for prospects? This isn't baseball.

[LastSunrise1981]

Funny how Go Web Go is saying he's glad the Heat got rid of him when they did when Shaq is the main reason they won the 2006 championship. Without Shaq relating to the team and making guys like Wade, Williams, Walker, and Haslem better they wouldn't have won in 2006.

So give Shaq some credit and stop ripping on him. Those who are bashing him would look stupid if he led Phoenix to a championship. Regardless of how ANYONE feels about Shaq personally, there's no denying that he commands double to triple teams that open up other players.

[Go Web Go!]

Funny how Go Web Go is saying he's glad the Heat got rid of him when they did when Shaq is the main reason they won the 2006 championship. Without Shaq relating to the team and making guys like Wade, Williams, Walker, and Haslem better they wouldn't have won in 2006.

So give Shaq some credit and stop ripping on him. Those who are bashing him would look stupid if he led Phoenix to a championship. Regardless of how ANYONE feels about Shaq personally, there's no denying that he commands double to triple teams that open up other players.

Oh stop. You think I don't know how big a role Shaq played throughout their title run 2 years ago? I know you remember quite well. Yes, the Heat would not have gotten over the hump without him. That's a no-brainer, though it was Wade who ultimately put the team on his back. What I said is that I'm glad they got rid of him when they did . Between his constant injuries and his falling out with Pat Riley, it was pretty apparent that he was becoming more of a detriment to the team than a help - especially when they were way out of the playoff picture so early in the season. If there was the option to move him, why wouldn't I want it to happen, even with his previous contributions to the team?

I don't hate the guy and I'm sure as hell not ripping him. I don't know where you pulled that out from. I'll be forever grateful for that banner hanging up at the AAA, but the future wasn't about him and the rest of his bulky $60 million deal. It's about Wade, and now, Beasley. :word:

[Ghostvirus]

Sunrise - I thought the Refs were the main reason the Heat won a ship?:cwink:

[Mister J]

T3h FIX!!!1!1!! T3h fIx! :wow:

$tern is evil! He'll raise taxes. He stole my peanut butter & jelly sammich!

OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

[Darthphere]

Funny how Go Web Go is saying he's glad the Heat got rid of him when they did when Shaq is the main reason they won the 2006 championship. Without Shaq relating to the team and making guys like Wade, Williams, Walker, and Haslem better they wouldn't have won in 2006.

So give Shaq some credit and stop ripping on him. Those who are bashing him would look stupid if he led Phoenix to a championship. Regardless of how ANYONE feels about Shaq personally, there's no denying that he commands double to triple teams that open up other players.

Commanded, as in past tense. He's not that player anymore.

And seriously, D-Wade is the reason why the Heat won that title, even Shaq has said so.

[LastSunrise1981]

Sunrise - I thought the Refs were the main reason the Heat won a ship?:cwink:

While I still have my beliefs that the officials made certain calls in favor of Miami, at the end of the day we lost the games and the championship. We have no one to blame but ourselves in that situation. Fair is fair.

But for anyone to say that it was Wade alone is crazy. Wade played great games, made great shots, and proved he wanted it more. But at the end of the day if it wasn't for Shaq making guys like Wade, Haslem, Williams, and Walker better players they wouldn't have won the championship. Just like if it wasn't for Shaq Kobe wouldn't have three rings to his name either.

Shaq isn't the Shaq of 2000 anymore, that is a fact. But there's no denying that he still contributes and is still dominant at what he does. He still commands double to triple teams because he can get an easy bucket for his team. I'd feel more comfortable with Shaq in the low block than Shaq at the free throw line that's for sure.

@Mister J- Just because you're a mod now doesn't mean you can insult me or throw out sarcastic remarks at me now either. You're not better fan or bigger fan than me.

But as for the 2006 championships? I'm over it. Dallas lost the games. I still believe that there are certain instances of the game that are fixed for the more popular teams. But at the end of the day teams play to win and Dallas didn't play to win. What's done has been done for the last two years and Miami is the one with the championship banner not Dallas.

[Go Web Go!]

T3h FIX!!!1!1!! T3h fIx! :wow:

$tern is evil! He'll raise taxes. He stole my peanut butter & jelly sammich!

OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

He kills puppies too. :oldrazz:

[LastSunrise1981]

And to prove that I am over the whole situation here's a video I was watching.

19xH1gNWxt4

[Mister J]

@Mister J- Just because you're a mod now doesn't mean you can insult me or throw out sarcastic remarks at me now either. You're not better fan or bigger fan than me.

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3280/ohnoesbs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Umm, I made sarcastic remarks toward you long before my name was ever highlighted in red. :confused:
Clearly, you recall this. :ninja:

Maybe it has less to do with me thinking I'm a 'better fan or bigger fan' than you rather than the ridiculous things that you continue to say. :o

[LastSunrise1981]

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3280/ohnoesbs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Umm, I made sarcastic remarks toward you long before my name was ever highlighted in red. :confused:
Clearly, you recall this. :ninja:

Maybe it has less to do with me thinking I'm a 'better fan or bigger fan' than you rather than the ridiculous things that you continue to say. :o

I believe what I believe. I'm sure there are some ridiculous things that you believe that I would find stupid as well. Nobody is perfect. I've accepted the loss and I've moved on. Perhaps it's time that you, GhostVirus, and others do the same rather than live in the past.

Of course that's all Miami Heat fans have now is to rely on the past since they haven't succeeded after 2006. :yay:

I'm a real enough fan to accept that I have nothing to celebrate over because we haven't fared any better. So whatever.

[Go Web Go!]

Of course that's all Miami Heat fans have now is to rely on the past since they haven't succeeded after 2006. :yay:


Indeed, they have not, which can be put on injuries to their 2 best players more than anything else, but I'm a real enough fan to take a recent championship over a Finals meltdown and 2 straight first round playoff exits. We'll leave it at that. :word:

[Raiden]

Indeed, they have not, which can be put on injuries to their 2 best players more than anything else, but I'm a real enough fan to take a recent championship over a Finals meltdown and 2 straight first round playoff exits. We'll leave it at that. :word:

Are you comparing Heat's franchise with Lakers? :huh:

[Mister J]

GWG is talking about Dallas, Raiden. :funny:

[Raiden]

GWG is talking about Dallas, Raiden. :funny:

I guess Lakers have something in common with Mavs then. :o

[LastSunrise1981]

Indeed, they have not, which can be put on injuries to their 2 best players more than anything else, but I'm a real enough fan to take a recent championship over a Finals meltdown and 2 straight first round playoff exits. We'll leave it at that. :word:

Ah the old injury excuse? You didn't make the playoffs, we did. We lost in the first round yes. But I'll take a championship loss and two playoff exits over not actually making it to the playoffs or even be considered.

But the bottom line is much like Miami we have nothing to celebrate over either. We don't have a championship, received two first round exits, and so forth. I'm not bragging. If all you have to make yourself feel better is the past then so be it.

[LastSunrise1981]

Part of the reason I stopped posting here in the first place is the off-topic non-sense and how no one really discusses basketball. It's the same garbage over and over again with no signs of improvement.

I'll post again when the NBA season starts and hope that this time around there is intelligent basketball discussion and less childish non-sense.

[Darthphere]

Part of the reason I stopped posting here in the first place is the off-topic non-sense and how no one really discusses basketball. It's the same garbage over and over again with no signs of improvement.

I'll post again when the NBA season starts and hope that this time around there is intelligent basketball discussion and less childish non-sense.

Well now that you're leaving, maybe there will be.

[Mister J]

I guess Lakers have something in common with Mavs then. :o
Perhaps nominally ...and then it's a reach.

Two first round exits followed by a Finals loss, being led by the most talented player in the league, is still reason to be optimistic and look forward to the season. A Finals meltdown followed by two first round exits, led by a former MVP who clearly doesn't have the mental toughness to lead a team to a title, is simply cause to say "Oh ****. Not again." in response to the upcoming season. :funny:
Part of the reason I stopped posting here in the first place is the off-topic non-sense and how no one really discusses basketball. It's the same garbage over and over again with no signs of improvement.

I'll post again when the NBA season starts and hope that this time around there is intelligent basketball discussion and less childish non-sense.
See you in October. :lmao: :up:

[ih8nyy]

I guess Lakers have something in common with Mavs then. :o

Yes they do.

Both franchises have lost in the finals recently.

[Raiden]

Yes they do.

Both franchises have lost in the finals recently.

Unfortunately, but Celtics is a much better team than Heat 2 years ago.

[ih8nyy]

Unfortunately, but Celtics is a much better team than Heat 2 years ago.

You got that right.

[Go Web Go!]

Ah the old injury excuse?

Is it really an excuse when it's true?

Wade missed 51 games in 06-07, Shaq missed 40, but that has nothing to do with last year. It's only a fun fact.

07-08? Wade missed another 51, Shaq only played in 33 before they shipped him to Phoenix - throw in another 50 missed by Haslem, 25 by Mourning, and fill those empty roster spots with a bunch of NBDL players. Are you seriously expecting a playoff appearance? :whatever:

[Ghostvirus]

Glad to see some of the old posters coming out to play. There seemed to be a lot of newblood around. It is ever nice to see Sunrise posting again. Can't wait for the season to begin. So many interesting things to look for. Portland, Seattle, Chicago, & Miami all look to make an impact this season.

I am also once again curious how the mid-season trades of last year will turn out this year. Now they have a full season to work out the kinks. Also curiouis about the impact that D-Tone will have on the Knicks. Wouldn't mind seeing them get some respect back.

[Silver Knight]

I know my Hornets are takeing the title this year!

[Dexter M0rgan]

Celtics have a 2-year window now that they've won a title, to win another one.

What's your favorite team, SK?

[Docker2.0]

Glad to see some of the old posters coming out to play. There seemed to be a lot of newblood around. It is ever nice to see Sunrise posting again. Can't wait for the season to begin. So many interesting things to look for. Portland, Seattle, Chicago, & Miami all look to make an impact this season.

I am also once again curious how the mid-season trades of last year will turn out this year. Now they have a full season to work out the kinks. Also curiouis about the impact that D-Tone will have on the Knicks. Wouldn't mind seeing them get some respect back.

Won't happen til Marbury, Randolph and POSSIBLY Curry are dealt. :o

[Darthphere]

Glad to see some of the old posters coming out to play. There seemed to be a lot of newblood around. It is ever nice to see Sunrise posting again. Can't wait for the season to begin. So many interesting things to look for. Portland, Seattle, Chicago, & Miami all look to make an impact this season.

I am also once again curious how the mid-season trades of last year will turn out this year. Now they have a full season to work out the kinks. Also curiouis about the impact that D-Tone will have on the Knicks. Wouldn't mind seeing them get some respect back.

It will be minimal.:hehe:

[Mister J]

Glad to see some of the old posters coming out to play. There seemed to be a lot of newblood around. It is ever nice to see Sunrise posting again. Can't wait for the season to begin. So many interesting things to look for. Portland, Seattle, Chicago, & Miami all look to make an impact this season.

I am also once again curious how the mid-season trades of last year will turn out this year. Now they have a full season to work out the kinks. Also curiouis about the impact that D-Tone will have on the Knicks. Wouldn't mind seeing them get some respect back.
The season, as a whole, should be another good one, MC. :up:
It can't be any worst for our respective teams ...right? :confused:

Celtics have a 2-year window now that they've won a title, to win another one.

What's your favorite team, SK?
Welcome to the party, Dexter.

If Silver Knight is on the same kick as he was last year, it might be quicker for him to tell you who isn't his favorite team. :o

[Dexter M0rgan]

Oh boy... must be in middle school.

[Ghostvirus]

celtics have a 2-year window now that they've won a title, to win another one.

what's your favorite team, sk?

bwahhhhh!!!!!!

[Ghostvirus]

It will be minimal.:hehe:

Oh snap....thats right.:csad: Look for the Thunder to make an impact.:whatever: Worst name ever.

[JaD]

Wow.

More surgery for Agent Zer0, ey? And he signed a how-many million dollar contract this year? My goodness.

Arenas to Miss Camp, Season's First Month After Surgery

Gilbert Arenas confirmed that he underwent a surgical procedure this morning that "cleaned out some debris" in his left knee. Arenas, who has undergone two surgeries to repair the left knee in the last two seasons, has been limited during the rehab process all summer and said he has planned all along on not participating in training camp or the preseason.

Arenas, who signed a six-year, $111 million contract this summer, said he plans on returning to game action sometime in early December which would mean that he'd miss at least the season's first month. The Wizards open the regular season Oct. 29 at home against New Jersey and play a total of 14 games in October and November.

"I just had some floating debris in there that was slowing me down," said Arenas, who seemed to be in good spirits. "It was irritating the knee so we decided to go in there and clean it out. This should actually allow me to come back faster."

Arenas was limited to 13 regular season games last season and missed the final eight regular season games and the playoffs the previous season after tearing the left meniscus in the knee during a game against Charlotte on April 4, 2007.

I've been on vacation and just flew back into town late last night so I'm still in the process of fleshing this all out. I can't yet tell you whether or to what extent president Ernie Grunfeld and coach Eddie Jordan were prepared for all of this.

We do know that the team has two point guards on the current roster - Antonio Daniels and Dee Brown - and has precious little space underneath the luxury tax threshold. It would appear, as of right now, that the Wizards will go into the season with this group and wait for Arenas to get healthy.

More later.

[Nightmare]

Damn, Arenas is injury prone as hell. He wasnt worth that 111 mill.

[Ben Urich]

Basketbawful on Dallas (http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2008/09/2008-09-nba-season-pre-preview.html):
Dallas Mavericks: Quick quiz: Who is more mobile at this point, Jason Kidd or Stephen Hawking? Think about it before answering.

:woot:

[Raiden]

Oh snap....thats right.:csad: Look for the Thunder to make an impact.:whatever: Worst name ever.

I still think that if they rename it to TROPIC Thunder, it'd be the greatest name ever. :hehe:

[Go Web Go!]

I know my Hornets are takeing the title this year!

I'd like to see them come out of the West. Get some new blood in the title picture.

Glad to see some of the old posters coming out to play. There seemed to be a lot of newblood around. It is ever nice to see Sunrise posting again. Can't wait for the season to begin. So many interesting things to look for. Portland, Seattle, Chicago, & Miami all look to make an impact this season.

The only impact they'll make is relocating. :word:

[Nightmare]

I dont know about the hornets, they lost in 7 to an old spurs team. Then saw the Lakers easily get by the spurs in 5. I dont know if the Hornets can get passed the lakers especially with Bynum coming back. Pau/Bynum vs Tyson/West in the post would be a quite a match up.

[Bond]

**** this season. The Mavs are gonna be terrible. :csad:

[Go Web Go!]

I dont know about the hornets, they lost in 7 to an old spurs team. Then saw the Lakers easily get by the spurs in 5. I dont know if the Hornets can get passed the lakers especially with Bynum coming back. Pau/Bynum vs Tyson/West in the post would be a quite a match up.

I agree, but was just making the point that I'd like to see them contend for a championship. It's going to be extremely hard for them to duplicate or top what they did last season with the Lakers now having Pau for an entire season and Artest being traded to Houston - and that's without mentioning the usual suspects like San Antone and Phoenix - though I think the Hornets are better than the Suns. There's no shortage of competition.

[Ghostvirus]

I dont know about the hornets, they lost in 7 to an old spurs team. Then saw the Lakers easily get by the spurs in 5. I dont know if the Hornets can get passed the lakers especially with Bynum coming back. Pau/Bynum vs Tyson/West in the post would be a quite a match up.

The Hornets went Toe to toe with a much, much, much more playoff seasoned team. They deserve a lot of kudos for that. They are only going to be better this year now that they have more XP points. There playoff lever has increased +5.

[Nightmare]

There signing of James Posey will be huge come playoff time.

[Silver Knight]

Ben, you exited about Magic's new unis?

[Go Web Go!]

Miami & Indy talking Tinsley for Haslem. I'd say do it, only if the Pacers take Marcus Banks's awful contract.

[Silver Knight]

Who's going to play PF for the Heat if Haslem gets traded?

[Go Web Go!]

Beasley, sir.

[Silver Knight]

He is undersized sir.

Plus Matrix's true position is the 3.

[Mister J]

No, no, no. Tinsley for Haslem? Unh-nuh! :nono:

We're already soft in the post and getting killed on the offensive glass. Udonis is going to be a bit overpaid to be a backup to Beasley at the 4 (sooner, rather than later), but the man still has good value.

While Tinsley would be the best PG on the roster, he's a 30-year old, injury-prone, headcase with no outside shot. That's not worth taking on 21M over the next 3 years and getting rid of a guy like Haslem. I'll take my chances with the Banks/Chalmers/Quinn combo instead. If they want to move Haslem, they can do better in the exchange.

[Silver Knight]

B-Easy will not play the 4 in the NBA.

[Go Web Go!]

No, no, no. Tinsley for Haslem? Unh-nuh! :nono:

We're already soft in the post and getting killed on the offensive glass. Udonis is going to be a bit overpaid to be a backup to Beasley at the 4 (sooner, rather than later), but the man still has good value.

While Tinsley would be the best PG on the roster, he's a 30-year old, injury-prone, headcase with no outside shot. That's not worth taking on 21M over the next 3 years and getting rid of a guy like Haslem. I'll take my chances with the Banks/Chalmers/Quinn combo instead. If they want to move Haslem, they can do better in the exchange.

I wouldn't do it straight up, but if the Pacers took Marcus Banks (which is apparently the only way the Heat would do the deal) I don't know...frees up a lot more cap space. At the same time, Haslem's PJ Brown V2 - he's tough on the boards and a good defender. I'd hate to see him go.

[Go Web Go!]

From the Sun-Sentinel:

With Indiana's Jamaal Tinsley, the situation is pretty basic. If the Pacers are willing to take on Marcus Banks, a deal quickly could be consummated. If the Pacers remain focused on Udonis Haslem, the conversations will remain cursory.

[Silver Knight]

From the Sun-Sentinel:
Intresting..

[nolan's roll'n]

Wow.

More surgery for Agent Zer0, ey? And he signed a how-many million dollar contract this year? My goodness.

Agreed, he is a over paid and a bit overrated.

[Go Web Go!]

I don't know about overrated, but yeah, definitely overpaid. $111 mil? Get the hell out of here with that.

[Silver Knight]

i don't know about overrated, but yeah, definitely overpaid. $111 mil? Get the hell out of here with that.
q-f-t.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well looks like the madness has started again already.

[Nightmare]

Macho Madness?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Just all of the ball talk.

[JaD]

I don't know about overrated, but yeah, definitely overpaid. $111 mil? Get the hell out of here with that.
He's a great player, and can light up the scoreboard on almost any night. But really, 111 mill.? He only played like 15 games last season, and wasn't his team playing better without him? (I can't remember for sure) But I know they still got in the playoffs and were ousted by the same team like tradition.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, they did play better without him. Washington just handcuffed themselves for the foreseeable future by signing the guy to such a big contract. Enjoy the usual 45-37 season, DC.

[Dexter M0rgan]

And the usual 1st round loss in 5-6 games to Cleveland.

[Nightmare]

Didnt they also sign Antawn Jamison to a fat extention this past offseason too?

[Go Web Go!]

Didnt they also sign Antawn Jamison to a fat extention this past offseason too?

Tru dat. They should have let him walk.

[Ben Urich]

Why? So they can start Andray Blatche at PF and struggle to win 40 games despite having two top-30 players (Arenas and Butler) in their primes? :huh:

Jamison's a terrific player. Washington's a good team. It made sense for the Wizards to keep their core together because their biggest problem the last several years has been injuries. With the three of those guys healthy, they should win 50 games and contend, especially with Boston and Detroit (presumably) declining over the next several seasons. But I guess it's just not meant to be.

Evs. Now the Magic shouldn't have such a hard time winning the Southeast. :word:

Aside: the Pistons still scare me. Rip, Billups, Tayshaun, and Rasheed are still there. They have a solid bench, lead by Antonio McDyess, that's going to win some games for them when the big names aren't on their games. With the youngsters Jason Maxiell, Amir Johnson, and Rodney Stuckey waiting in the wings, they could still be dangerous for years to come.

Also: WALTER HERRMANN!!!1

[Nightmare]

Dont forget about the pistons huge off season signing and Major Move Joe Dumars promised: KWAME BROWN!!!

[nolan's roll'n]

Dont forget about the pistons huge off season signing and Major Move Joe Dumars promised: KWAME BROWN!!!
How many points does he make a game? :whatever:

[Nightmare]

Why the eye roll little buddy? i was clearly joking :(

[nolan's roll'n]

Why the eye roll little buddy? i was clearly joking :(
I'm sorry dude, I didn't know you were joking. :csad:

[Mister J]

As desperate as Miami is for a center, I'd have had a fit if they signed up for 2 years of Kwame at 4M each. The guy is worthless. That's what Joe D was talking about when he was looking all giddy and talking about looking to make big changes after their season was over? No, thank you.

[Nightmare]

haha, thats what i was saying. What happend to his "shake things up". Guess that was it.

[JaD]

Tru dat. They should have let him walk.
But also, Arenas was saying he wouldn't return if they hadn't signed Jamison again. Those 2 are either really good friends, or there's no possibility for them to play any better if they lost one of the 2. Hmm.

[Silver Knight]

Can we get some predictions in here..

[Ben Urich]

Dumars said recently (as in, like, Friday) that he's taken the superstars off the table and will go into next season with the same team. He didn't get a good enough offer, apparently.

They overpaid for Brown, though. That was silly. Nobody else was offering him that kind of money... right?

[Nightmare]

Can we get some predictions in here..

Lakers over the Rockets in 6 in the WCF

Celtics over the Cavs in 7 in the ECF

Lakers over Celtics in 6

[JaD]

Lakers over the Rockets in 6 in the WCF

Celtics over the Cavs in 7 in the ECF

Lakers over Celtics in 6
I'm writing this down WSS :word:

[Mister J]

Dumars said recently (as in, like, Friday) that he's taken the superstars off the table and will go into next season with the same team. He didn't get a good enough offer, apparently.

They overpaid for Brown, though. That was silly. Nobody else was offering him that kind of money... right?
I didn't hear about it ...or I would have laughed.

[Nightmare]

I'm writing this down WSS :word:

:up:

[Zephyr Alexian]

Yeah, they did play better without him. Washington just handcuffed themselves for the foreseeable future by signing the guy to such a big contract. Enjoy the usual 45-37 season, DC.

Arenas is the Eastern conference version of T-Mac.:o

[Go Web Go!]

Why? So they can start Andray Blatche at PF and struggle to win 40 games despite having two top-30 players (Arenas and Butler) in their primes? :huh:

Jamison's a terrific player. Washington's a good team. It made sense for the Wizards to keep their core together because their biggest problem the last several years has been injuries. With the three of those guys healthy, they should win 50 games and contend, especially with Boston and Detroit (presumably) declining over the next several seasons. But I guess it's just not meant to be.


There's no doubt that Arenas, Butler and Jamison are one of the NBA's top trios when healthy, but you can't tell me you think those 3 are capable of leading Washington to a title, or even getting them out of the East. Yes, they're a "nice" team. They can win up to 40-45 (50 is pushing it) games and put up a fight for a division title, but as long as the Celtics and Pistons are around (even on the decline, boths teams are better) - not to mention LeBron, and to a lesser extent the Magic, and the Heat - the Wizards are going to have a tough time getting out of the first round, let alone make it out of the conference.

That's why I said they shouldn't have broken the bank for Arenas or re-sign Jamison for what they did. They should have chosen one or the other, but instead are now handcuffed to both players and really don't have anyone on the roster now that can help get them over the hump (other than Butler) AND won't be able to sign any players that can potentially get them deep into the playoffs. They should have waited for guys like Amare, Boozer, even Wade or LeBron to hit the market in a season or 2 and make a run at them. In the mean time, a Butler/Jamison or Butler/Arenas combo would have kept them in the same spot they have been for the past 3 seasons or so.

[Nightmare]

Arenas is the Eastern conference version of T-Mac.:o

Arenas has never got out of the first round his entire career?

[Mister J]

In 2005, he and the Wiz got swept by Miami in the second round.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Oh, pardon me. I guess that changes everything. :o

I was thinking more in terms of their ability to score, excel during the regular season, but ultimate refusal to rebound, play defense, and listen to their coaches consistently.

[Ben Urich]

There's no doubt that Arenas, Butler and Jamison are one of the NBA's top trios when healthy, but you can't tell me you think those 3 are capable of leading Washington to a title, or even getting them out of the East. Yes, they're a "nice" team. They can win up to 40-45 (50 is pushing it) games and put up a fight for a division title, but as long as the Celtics and Pistons are around (even on the decline, boths teams are better) - not to mention LeBron, and to a lesser extent the Magic, and the Heat - the Wizards are going to have a tough time getting out of the first round, let alone make it out of the conference.

That's why I said they shouldn't have broken the bank for Arenas or re-sign Jamison for what they did. They should have chosen one or the other, but instead are now handcuffed to both players and really don't have anyone on the roster now that can help get them over the hump (other than Butler) AND won't be able to sign any players that can potentially get them deep into the playoffs. They should have waited for guys like Amare, Boozer, even Wade or LeBron to hit the market in a season or 2 and make a run at them. In the mean time, a Butler/Jamison or Butler/Arenas combo would have kept them in the same spot they have been for the past 3 seasons or so.

Good points, yes. I think the decision to keep both those guys boiled down to Washington's desire to keep Arenas, who said he would leave if they didn't re-sign Jamison. And I guess the Wizards would rather take their chances with Arenas/Butler/Jamison over the long haul than with Butler and a bunch of nobodies, holding out that one of the free-agent studs in 2010 would choose D.C. instead of New York, New Jersey, or any of the other teams that are dumping salary like crazy. Even the Grizzlies and Timberwolves are trying to unload.

I don't expect Jamison to finish his contract in D.C., though. They'll trade him eventually. Arenas would be harder to move, given the size of his contract, but we learned in February that hefty contracts (Shaq) aren't necessarily immovable.

[Go Web Go!]

Good points, yes. I think the decision to keep both those guys boiled down to Washington's desire to keep Arenas, who said he would leave if they didn't re-sign Jamison. And I guess the Wizards would rather take their chances with Arenas/Butler/Jamison over the long haul than with Butler and a bunch of nobodies, holding out that one of the free-agent studs in 2010 would choose D.C. instead of New York, New Jersey, or any of the other teams that are dumping salary like crazy. Even the Grizzlies and Timberwolves are trying to unload.

I don't expect Jamison to finish his contract in D.C., though. They'll trade him eventually. Arenas would be harder to move, given the size of his contract, but we learned in February that hefty contracts (Shaq) aren't necessarily immovable.

True dat, true dat. I just think the Wizards were too quick to re-sign Arenas. It was obviously now or never, but the guy was coming off a major knee injury that caused him to miss the majority of the season and is now going to miss the beginning of next season because of another surgery on the same knee. Not good.

[Mister J]

Happy Birthday to Commissioner David Stern. :up:

Hmm:

It's his 66th birthday.
Stern began working for the league in 1966.
That's 42 years; 4 + 2 is 6.

...

666.

OMG!! T3h Stern is Eviiilllllll! :eek:

[Go Web Go!]

Happy Birthday to Commissioner David Stern. :up:

Hmm:

It's his 66th birthday.
Stern began working for the league in 1966.
That's 42 years; 4 + 2 is 6.

...

666.

OMG!! T3h Stern is Eviiilllllll! :eek:

:wow:

I know a certain someone who would agree with yooou. :o

[Bond]

Ahhhh!!!

[Nightmare]

We always knew stern was evil. He was the brains behind that crooked ref.

[Silver Knight]

Magic are revealing their new unis today.

[Ben Urich]

A bit of shameless promotion on my part...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/incurock31/3QC/Picture10.png
http://www.thirdquartercollapse.com/

The Orlando Sentinel's picture (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_nothingbutnet/2008/09/magic-jersey-of.html) is much nicer. :o

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_nothingbutnet/images/2008/09/23/img_0201_1_3.jpg

[Nightmare]

Not Bad :up:

[Mister J]

They need to bring back the circa 94-95 unis. :o :up:
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Report: Knicks Prepare to Waive Marbury By End of Week (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3604025)
Once Marbury clears waivers and a buyout is agreed upon, he would be free to sign with any team. Reports in Newsday and the South Florida media have mentioned the Miami Heat, who are in need of a point guard, as having interest.
Nooo ...noo ...NO! [/Palpatine] :dry:

[Go Web Go!]

Wow, those are uber-suck. What the HELL is up with all the WNBA uni unveilings this summer? Wolves, now the Magic...let's see how much worse the Thunder's uniforms look when the unveil them on Monday.

[Docker2.0]

I hope this true! Get that clown out of NY! Marbury, Wade, Beasley and Marion......SOUNDS ok. But it won't happen. Riley won't deal with a knucklehead like Marbury. Plus Wade can't play with him. The only team I can see Marbury going to is Detroit becuase the veterans there won't let his negative "force" mess with them, though I don't see it happening. Dude is probably done in the NBA.

With him gone, the Knicks will win 40 games this year. :o

[Ben Urich]

Not Bad :up:

Agreed. Major upgrade, and maybe the best in franchise history. But the "dazzle" fabric ones are hard to top:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/1999/04/03/001093780.jpg

They need to bring back the circa 94-95 unis.

They at least brought the pinstripes back. :woot:

Wow, those are uber-suck. What the HELL is up with all the WNBA uni unveilings this summer? Wolves, now the Magic...let's see how much worse the Thunder's uniforms look when the unveil them on Monday.

:dry:

[Nightmare]

Maybe he wants the Magic to sport more of a green teal color?

[Ben Urich]

Like the Hornets? :huh:

http://www.hornets247.com/images/blog/2008/08/hornets-uniforms-01-thumb.jpg

[Nightmare]

No, like the dolphins.

[Go Web Go!]

But it won't happen. Riley won't deal with a knucklehead like Marbury. Plus Wade can't play with him.

I truly hope the Heat don't even give this scrub a look. He's a career loser. I'd rather start Chris Quinn, who has very little experience or a rookie like Chalmers at the point. I'll pass on that fool, thanks. Ugh, even the thought...


Agreed. Major upgrade, and maybe the best in franchise history. But the "dazzle" fabric ones are hard to top:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/1999/04/03/001093780.jpg


:dry:

THOSE I like. I don't know why the got rid of those so soon, or why they get rid of any look after such a short time. This is what, their 4th or 5th uni set in their 20 years? I'm not digging the new ones, but they're an upgrade over those stale jersies they've had since the early 2000's.

[Ben Urich]

89-98 pinstripes
99-03 dazzle
04-08 dry fit
08-beyond PINSTRIPES 2.0!!!1

[Go Web Go!]

Ok, who's ready for a good joke?

Knock, knock

Who's there?

Allan Houston signing a new deal with NYK...HA!

[Excel]

did I mention ill be there on October 28th?

[Nightmare]

So will Marbury sign with the Heat?

[Go Web Go!]

I just saw on ESPN not too long ago that the Knicks brass expect him to be in camp next week, so hopefully that's a big fat NNNNOOOO. :)

[Silver Knight]

So will Marbury sign with the Heat?
Seems like it.

[Zephyr Alexian]

I just saw on ESPN not too long ago that the Knicks brass expect him to be in camp next week, so hopefully that's a big fat NNNNOOOO. :)

Yeah, the only way you guys want him in Miami is in attendance or playing an away game.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, the only way you guys want him in Miami is in attendance or playing an away game.

Yes, or sweeping the court. :word:

[Zephyr Alexian]

Ha, ha. He'll never do that. If the league doesn't work for/with him, he can always fall back on Starbury apparel and shoes.:whatever:

I'm just waiting to hear what asinine thing he'll say next. The media is just waiting to get this guy. . . again.

[Go Web Go!]

The fool should just pack his bags and fly off to Italy like he said he'd do 2 years ago.

By the way, did anyone know Shareef Abur-Rahim retired? I had no clue.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Yeah, he's done (http://slamonline.com/online/2008/09/links-shareef-abdur-rahim-is-out/)

[Silver Knight]

The fool should just pack his bags and fly off to Italy like he said he'd do 2 years ago.

By the way, did anyone know Shareef Abur-Rahim retired? I had no clue.
Knee injury.

Shame, dude was a class act.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Any thought's on Sun Yue's possible chances to make an impact in Los Angeles?

[Go Web Go!]

Sun Who?

[Silver Knight]

The Asian guy.

[Go Web Go!]

That explains it.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Stupid ass Monte Ellis. Gets hurt riding a....Vespa of all things!? Ughh

[Go Web Go!]

Stupid ass Monte Ellis. Gets hurt riding a....Vespa of all things!? Ughh

"Ugh" is right. I just don't get some of these idiot millionaire athletes, man. They can potentially end their careers, or worse, by riding these bikes - or in this moron's case - a freakin' moped. Look what happened to Jay Williams. Done. Kellen Winslow ended his season a few years ago by attempting to play stuntman in an empty parking lot. Ben Roethlisberger was lucky he wasn't killed when he was thrown from his crotch rocket.

There are quite a few teams throughout sports that forbid players from these kind of activities (the Warriors being one of them) and have the ability to TERMINATE their deals, which of course, is unheard of because winning is the only thing that matters in the end (and I get that.) These guys essentially just walk away with lighter pockets, but when you've just signed a new $67 million contract like Ellis just did than a 50 or 75K fine is chump change.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Ellis is fortunate; if the GS still had Baron Davis and a few more players, the punishment could've been worse. Ah, who am I kidding; it still would've been a slap on the wrist.

[Nightmare]

Atleast they got Ronny Turiaf to dominate the inside this season.

[Go Web Go!]

"Dominate" is a little strong, don't you think?

[Nightmare]

Oops, forgot the :cwink: at the end.

[Go Web Go!]

Ah! Now it makes sense! :)

[Zephyr Alexian]

Turiaf is a dominate cheerleader.:up:

[Nightmare]

Haha.

[ih8nyy]

Stupid ass Monte Ellis. Gets hurt riding a....Vespa of all things!? Ughh

Could be worse. Could be like the knee injury Eric Johnson from the St. Louis Blues sustained last week. He was driving a golf cart and got his foot stuck between the gas and brake and tore ligaments. Done for the season.

He did however finish his round. So thats a :up: !

[Silver Knight]

Could be worse. Could be like the knee injury Eric Johnson from the St. Louis Blues sustained last week. He was driving a golf cart and got his foot stuck between the gas and brake and tore ligaments. Done for the season.

He did however finish his round. So thats a :up: !
Wow! Are you serious?

[JaD]

Turiaf is a dominate cheerleader.:up:
Ha, I think I can agree with you there on that one. :hehe:

Kinda bummed about Monta being out for 2 months or whatever, was excited for him this season :O. Really hoping he can step up with Baron out of the picture now. But I am going to miss B-Diddy though still.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

"Ugh" is right. I just don't get some of these idiot millionaire athletes, man. They can potentially end their careers, or worse, by riding these bikes - or in this moron's case - a freakin' moped. Look what happened to Jay Williams. Done. Kellen Winslow ended his season a few years ago by attempting to play stuntman in an empty parking lot. Ben Roethlisberger was lucky he wasn't killed when he was thrown from his crotch rocket.

There are quite a few teams throughout sports that forbid players from these kind of activities (the Warriors being one of them) and have the ability to TERMINATE their deals, which of course, is unheard of because winning is the only thing that matters in the end (and I get that.) These guys essentially just walk away with lighter pockets, but when you've just signed a new $67 million contract like Ellis just did than a 50 or 75K fine is chump change.

Radmonovic was hurt a few years back after he just signed with the Lakers. Remember that? He was fine $500,000. Hardly chump change. Sure it won't break Monte, but if they fine him anywhere close to that (which they should) that would basically be like docking him one full pay check.

I'm ok with them being able to do some things. But come on riding a motorcycle is just asking to get hurt, like you said look at all of the other guys that have been hurt so far riding them.

I mean some contracts are a bit over board. Skydiving and other clauses. Sure you can get hurt skydiving, but worst thing that happens is you die. So really nothing you can do about that.

But there is one athlete that did take heed of his choices.

Several years back Zo had a custome austin martin built for him (I think it was a martin) it was all decked out and was a high end sports car. But then one of his friends either was hurt or died in a car wreck so he thought about it and returned it to the dealer (I think right when it was finished for him, I'm not even sure he drove it once.)

[Nightmare]

I think Vladmir got hurt sliding on slopes.

[Go Web Go!]

Radmonovic was hurt a few years back after he just signed with the Lakers. Remember that? He was fine $500,000. Hardly chump change. Sure it won't break Monte, but if they fine him anywhere close to that (which they should) that would basically be like docking him one full pay check.

I do remember now that you mention. Didn't remember the fine being so heavy, but yeah, Ellis should be punished with a similar fine.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Could be worse. Could be like the knee injury Eric Johnson from the St. Louis Blues sustained last week. He was driving a golf cart and got his foot stuck between the gas and brake and tore ligaments. Done for the season.

He did however finish his round. So thats a :up: !

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Hey Turiaf has potential to be solid. He was a damn good player in college. He hustles and doesn't whine and ***** about calls. He just plays which is what The Warriors need. Give him two years and see where he is at.

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I think Vladmir got hurt sliding on slopes.


Yup, snowboarding.

[Nightmare]

You a lakers fan Bah?

[Zephyr Alexian]

The Lake show is coming back this season; I don't see our squad as a lock to come out of the West, but we're one of the front runners.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You a lakers fan Bah?

Nope. **** The Lakers! I'm glad Boston blew them out in the Championship game. It proved that Kobe is no where near MJ's level for all of the people that were making the comparisons.

Warriors through and through.

[ih8nyy]

Wow! Are you serious?

Yes I am.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3605557

One of the more bizarre injuries in recent memory.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Nope. **** The Lakers! I'm glad Boston blew them out in the Championship game. It proved that Kobe is no where near MJ's level for all of the people that were making the comparisons.
Nah, Kobe isn't Michael, but nobody will ever be MJ.

Grrrrr, game 6 was a humiliation.:csad:

Warriors through and through.
Is Nelly still the head coach?

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, Nelly's still in Oaktown.

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Nah, Kobe isn't Michael, but nobody will ever be MJ.

Thank you. Finally someone. I know we are all prisoners of the moment but it seems even respected journalists are acting like they never watched MJ play pre-first retirement. Getting all caught up in the Kobe hype this year (not that he isn't a phenomenal player) and people already crowning Lebron as king when he hasn't done or won ****ing ****!

There may one day ( I hope it happens) come a player that will surpass MJ as the greatest ever. Hell I mean look at who came before him. Wilt, Russell, Monroe, Dr. J, Bird and then Magic along with others.

But the reason that it is going to be even hard for players to do now is that they have no heart. They do not play balls out, they don't love the game the way they used to. They love their money and fame.

This is why I give Kobe so much props. Despite all of the **** that has gone on with him off and on the court when it's game time he is still a killer. As ice cold as we have seen since MJ and Miller. That is because the most important thing to him when he plays is that he is the best.

He says that he doesn't want to be MJ and he will never be the best player, just the best Kobe. But that's a damn lie and you can see it. He wants to be the best, he wants to dethrone MJ. He won't but he is trying as hard as he can and has come as close to MJ as we have seen yet.

As for the rest, there are some sprinkled here and there that do love the game and do care but the rest don't, not as much. The level of play is lower, different rules make it harder for defenses to play hard nose physical ball making it easier for offensive players and they aren't even as good as the offensive players of old. Overall the quality is down and so it will be even harder for someone to be on MJ's level.

None of these soft ass pussy kids would even get out of their hotel suite if they had a tummy ache or the sniffles. MJ played with the flu, was dehydrated and had a 101 fever. Sure some might have been exaggerated but he was no where near 100%. And what did he do? Put them on his back.

Championship series, MJ finds a way to win no matter what.


Grrrrr, game 6 was a humiliation.:csad:


Yeah it was. A very satisfying one to watch.

Is Nelly still the head coach?

Yes...I'm happy that he got us to the playoffs finally, but we need a change. He is not big on young players and The Warriors are almost as young as it comes in the league. He needs to give them more opportunities to prove themselves.

Otherwise they are definitely not going to make the playoffs in an even deeper West.

[Raiden]

Lakers will make another championship run this coming season.

[Go Web Go!]

Lakers will make another championship run this coming season.

You don't say? :word:

[Raiden]

You don't say? :word:

Well, aside from the fact that I'm a Lakers fan, I do think Lakers have a good shot at repeating as WC champ. It does hinges on whether Kobe's pinky is indeed okay without the surgery, and whether Byrum can come back 100% and continue to improve. Oh, and I hope both Pasol and Odom can learn how not to disappear during the big games.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Thank you. Finally someone. I know we are all prisoners of the moment but it seems even respected journalists are acting like they never watched MJ play pre-first retirement. Getting all caught up in the Kobe hype this year (not that he isn't a phenomenal player) and people already crowning Lebron as king when he hasn't done or won ****ing ****!

There may one day ( I hope it happens) come a player that will surpass MJ as the greatest ever. Hell I mean look at who came before him. Wilt, Russell, Monroe, Dr. J, Bird and then Magic along with others.

But the reason that it is going to be even hard for players to do now is that they have no heart. They do not play balls out, they don't love the game the way they used to. They love their money and fame.

This is why I give Kobe so much props. Despite all of the **** that has gone on with him off and on the court when it's game time he is still a killer. As ice cold as we have seen since MJ and Miller. That is because the most important thing to him when he plays is that he is the best.

He says that he doesn't want to be MJ and he will never be the best player, just the best Kobe. But that's a damn lie and you can see it. He wants to be the best, he wants to dethrone MJ. He won't but he is trying as hard as he can and has come as close to MJ as we have seen yet.

As for the rest, there are some sprinkled here and there that do love the game and do care but the rest don't, not as much. The level of play is lower, different rules make it harder for defenses to play hard nose physical ball making it easier for offensive players and they aren't even as good as the offensive players of old. Overall the quality is down and so it will be even harder for someone to be on MJ's level.

None of these soft ass pussy kids would even get out of their hotel suite if they had a tummy ache or the sniffles. MJ played with the flu, was dehydrated and had a 101 fever. Sure some might have been exaggerated but he was no where near 100%. And what did he do? Put them on his back.

Championship series, MJ finds a way to win no matter what.
In his prime, he was a bad man. I definitely agree with you about the work ethic of most players nowadays. The fundamentals are slowly degrading because players only seem to work on a few things as opposed to developing skill sets.

Yeah it was. A very satisfying one to watch. :csad:Speak for yourself; one of my best friends is a huge KG fan, so I was happy for her in that regard, but that one hurt. When we fell behind by six points in the 2nd quarter, I knew it was over. There D smothered Kobe and made Gasol look especially charminesque.:csad::o

Yes...I'm happy that he got us to the playoffs finally, but we need a change. He is not big on young players and The Warriors are almost as young as it comes in the league. He needs to give them more opportunities to prove themselves.

Otherwise they are definitely not going to make the playoffs in an even deeper West.He definitely needs to start playing the young guys. I wonder how Charlotte will fair. They're going to have the same problem with Brown because he doesn't like to play young guys; he's also stingy with the bench.

I can't wait for the season to start because I want to see how Houston performs. I hope McGrady actually makes it out of the first round this year.

[Go Web Go!]

I can't wait for the season to start because I want to see how Houston performs. I hope McGrady actually makes it out of the first round this year.

He just might now with Crazy Ronnie on his side.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Yeah. There defense was one of the best in the league last year; now they have a real defensive stopper on their squad. If everyone stays healthy, they are going to be a tough out in the playoffs. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that someone on their team is going to get hurt before the all-star break and be done for the season.

[Go Web Go!]

This came out of nowhere:

LOS ANGELES -- Jason Williams announced his retirement Friday, ending his 10-year NBA career less than two months after signing with the Los Angeles Clippers.

Williams, who helped the Miami Heat to the NBA title in 2006, averaged 11.4 points, 6.3 assists and shot 39.6 percent from the floor in 679 games.

The point guard was drafted seventh overall pick in 1998 out of Florida by the Sacramento Kings and averaged 12.8 points and six assists as a rookie.

Williams joined the Memphis Grizzlies three years later, and in 2001-02 averaged 14.8 points and eight assists. In four seasons with the Grizzlies, Williams became the club's career assists leader.

He played for the Heat from 2005-2008, and started all 23 playoff games in Miami's title run. He signed with the Clippers on Aug. 7.


So long, J-Will. Thanks for your one good year here which helped lead Miami to a title. ;)

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[Nightmare]

Hahaha, poor clippers.

[Ziggyman]

http://www.nba.com/media/raptors/blk3rdjersey_1400x1050.jpg

Yeah! Raps third jersey...

[Nightmare]

red now? no more purple? they got portland's colors now.