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Superhero Hype!
06-18-2008, 11:31 PM
I've just come home from seeing this and it's CRAAAAAZYY good. A must see in theaters. Freaking awesome.
If the clip I saw at NYCC is any indication, then yeah.. looks like a must see.
Hunter Rider
06-18-2008, 11:43 PM
Glad you enjoyed it Mirko, how long is the run time ? You think it sets up for a sequel ?
Superhero Hype!
06-19-2008, 12:09 AM
I think like 100 minutes or so. Not really, no. But I guess they could go anywhere. Vague answer, I know :)
Lauryn2000
06-19-2008, 10:11 AM
Good....I'm looking forward to seeing this.
MightyGuy
06-19-2008, 04:11 PM
Glad you enjoyed it Mirko, how long is the run time ? You think it sets up for a sequel ?
There's definitely a sequel in the works; I just read an interview where Terence Stamp was saying something about how his character is supposed to play a larger part in the second movie - whatever that means.
I'm glad to hear that the movie was such a big hit; I can't wait to see it next week!
xwolverine2
06-19-2008, 05:03 PM
ah i just saw the train sequence clip... im not watching anymroe clips dammit!
this movie looks so wicked...
its a shame that stupid junk robot Wall-E is going to destroy Wanted.
I didn't plan on seeing this movie, but if the reviews continue to be this positive, I may have to check it out. Variety just gave a positive review as well.
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117937471.html?categoryid=31&cs=1
Mr. Credible
06-19-2008, 09:40 PM
god dammit this movie is going to be so insanely awesome.
i just get feelings of "fight club + matrix x 1,000 = this", which is in no way a bad thing. i fear this movie may give me a perma-boner.
xwolverine2
06-19-2008, 09:51 PM
definatly a surprise hit.... even though it'll bomb lol
xwolverine2
06-19-2008, 09:58 PM
I think like 100 minutes or so. Not really, no. But I guess they could go anywhere. Vague answer, I know :)
MPAA Rating: R. Running time 110 MIN.
almost 2 hours of crazyness!:wow:
Have you read the comic? How does it compare?
I'm really looking forward to this movie :)
green
06-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Another positive review from Hollywood Reporter.
Bottom Line: A bloody, audacious adrenaline rush.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film/reviews/article_display.jsp?&rid=11280
War Party
06-20-2008, 05:31 PM
Just recently I have gathered interest in this film. And I saw some clip this morning and now I just can't wait to see it.
Nepenthes
06-21-2008, 05:17 AM
From the man himself....
JUST BACK FROM WANTED PREMIERE, OKAY, GONNA KEEP THIS BRIEF...
...but the movie is literally 541 times better than I eve remembered. The cut they had me out to tweak a few months back was brilliant and had me super-charged, but I will go down on record here and now and say this polished version takes action movies to a whole new level. It's not even about raising the bar anymore. After Timur, there is no ****ing bar!!!
But what a night. My wife and I bumped into JG and his girlfriend as we were leaving our hotel and shared a limo (in the interests of the environment, you understand) and were shocked to find photogs and TV cameras screaming at us as we steped onto the red carpet. Been to a lot of premieres lately, but as a writer nobody ever gives a **** of course. What was weird here is that these guys had little photos of all the people they had to snap or interview and it was a crazy, mental experience to have handlers, be given 120 seconds with each TV crew, etc, from around the world. I would hate my lif to be like this, but for half an hour it was a laugh. The girls just stood behind us, confused and knowing what *******s we truly are, completely baffled by all the fuss.
As producers, JG and I had a row each and my agent Martin Spencer from CAA, my attorney Harris Miller, my buds Rob Liefeld, Jeph Loeb, Jim McLauchlin and several others were all crammed into beside the ace dudes from Top Cow. Sadly, my special guest Tegs (the brains behind this site) and his partner couldn't make it and we had two empties seats, but. T, I drunk your complimentary champagne and ate all your popcorn. You were missed, my friend. But I hope you see this movie soon because it was bloody amazing.
As you know, the super-villains become super-powered assassins where the backstory gets eliminated in favour of Timur's idea about the looms of fate. As producers on the flick, JG and I could have walked away but it really works and I think the changes in the second half make the story so much tighter, especially for a mainstream audience. It LOOKS like 50 guys spent 3 years talking about this and fine-tuning it into something special. The first half is identitcal to the book (and you'll have fun spotting the frames lifted straight from JG's art), but the changes made to the second half are great and I wish to **** I'd thought of having the reveal about the Dad (and Wesley being the only guy who could kill him) shifted into the middle like they did because it worked so much better as the ending of the second act. This meant they got 100% action when Wesley raided The Fraternity HQ in the third act whereas we had all the chat to explain everything. Also, wesley's raid on the baddies makes the 10 pages of slow mo madness in the comic look like Sesame Street. James killing all the super-assassins at the end is pretty much my favourite movie moment ever. He and I were acting it out drunk at 1am last night. though fire-arms were sadly unavailable.
Also, fans of the ****ing up the ass ending will have a little smile. I won't spoil it but the fact they even came close to this made me laugh.
As we were leaving the cinema and heading for the party, uber producer Marc Platt slung an arm around me and asked what ideas I had for the sequel. I told him no comic was ever, ever planned and he just smiled, saying he wanted this to be a movie franchise that would run and run. After last night, I hope he's right. You are going to ****ing LOVE this.
MM
http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=82137
Antonello Blueberry
06-21-2008, 11:31 AM
Right now the movie is at 100% at Rotten Tomatoes.
xwolverine2
06-21-2008, 03:33 PM
most movies usually are before they come out...
but i hope it doesnt go down too much...
i know it wont!
this movie will kickass for sure.
Antonello Blueberry
06-22-2008, 06:13 AM
most movies usually are before they come out...
Well, Variety and Hollywood Reporter said good things about the flick. I doubt may critics will disagree.
I'd just like everyone to keep in mind, that Mirko loved Undercover Brother. :cwink:
But I'm glad to hear it is good. This has the making of a great summer popcorn flick.
Joker8906
06-22-2008, 04:13 PM
God i cant wait to watch this at midnight friday morning after graduating HS.
BTW is there a Wanted avvy thread like there is for well pretty much everyother hero?
xwolverine2
06-22-2008, 04:38 PM
the rating on rottentomatoes has gone up to 7.7 out of 10
100%
Iron Fist
06-22-2008, 10:05 PM
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS MOVIE.
Yes I know I typed in caps. But dammit my anticiaption level is at 200%. :ninja:
I'd just like everyone to keep in mind, that Mirko loved Undercover Brother. :cwink:
And? That's a great freakin' movie!!
Forever is over
06-23-2008, 07:16 PM
Matt, you are like my hero around here but I also like Undercover Brother.
xwolverine2
06-23-2008, 07:19 PM
And? That's a great freakin' movie!!
:csad:
MightyGuy
06-23-2008, 08:04 PM
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS MOVIE.
Yes I know I typed in caps. But dammit my anticiaption level is at 200%. :ninja:
Same here - seeing all the glowing reviews coming from the different critics has seriously rocked me; I wasn't expecting that. I thought this would be one of those popcorn flicks where the critics hated it, but audiences dug it anyway; not so, it appears. Now that all these critics are lovin' on it, all those "Matrix" and "Fight Club" comparisons don't sound so far-fetched any more... sheer awesomeness!
Just a few more days to go - I can't wait to see this!
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 05:27 PM
I won't be seeing this in theaters, regardless of how good it is.
I'm not going to support the casting of Jolie with my money. Black Comic Book characters, let alone LEAD CHARACTERS are rare enough as is, and I refuse to believe that there wasn't a single black actress anywhere in the world who could have played this role. and contrary to popular belief, Halle Berry isn't the only black actress there is.
everyone is going to tell me that this is a minor, petty complaint, and it probably is, but I don't care.
I'll watch it sometime in the future, and will probably enjoy it. but I'm not paying for it.
Antonello Blueberry
06-24-2008, 05:41 PM
I won't be seeing this in theaters, regardless of how good it is.
I'm not going to support the casting of Jolie with my money. Black Comic Book characters, let alone LEAD CHARACTERS are rare enough as is, and I refuse to believe that there wasn't a single black actress anywhere in the world who could have played this role. and contrary to popular belief, Halle Berry isn't the only black actress there is.
everyone is going to tell me that this is a minor, petty complaint, and it probably is, but I don't care.
I'll watch it sometime in the future, and will probably enjoy it. but I'm not paying for it.
Was ethnicity an important characteristic of Fox?
Is it really a different character changing her skin color?
And don't you think that making her so similar to Halle Berry (as it was done with Wesley and Eminem) was just a "stunt casting" from Millar to gain interest from Hollywood?
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:04 PM
Was ethnicity an important characteristic of Fox?
Is it really a different character changing her skin color?
And don't you think that making her so similar to Halle Berry (as it was done with Wesley and Eminem) was just a "stunt casting" from Millar to gain interest from Hollywood?
to answer both of the first two questions: to me, yes. and you could ask this question about any Comic Book Character who DIDN'T have their ethnicity changed.
for the the last one, it probably was. but that doesn't change who the character was, and what ethnicity she was in the book. as I said, I refuse to believe that there was not a single black actress who could have played this role well. Jolie was cast for her name, without regard to the character she was cast for. by comparison, there'd be e-rioting in the e-streets if say...Gabrielle Union were cast as Lois Lane.
Hunter Rider
06-24-2008, 06:07 PM
I don't recall much complaining when MCD was cast as Kingpin.
While Jolie is white she embodies the free spirit and raw sexuality of Fox better than any actress out there.
xwolverine2
06-24-2008, 06:11 PM
did you not watch daredevil because the kingpin was black.... or x-men because logan was australian... or F4 because alba was hispanic(or w.e the hell the hybrid freak is)
that seems to me like rascism..
and Jolie was chosen because she is the most badass woman who can seduce you with a single stare.
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:19 PM
I don't recall much complaining when MCD was cast as Kingpin.
.
I don't either.
but then again, MCD was damn near the spitting image of the Kingpin, except for skin color. MCD was the closest to pulling off the Size of the Kingpin, and he was still a bit small, imo. If there were a white actor who could do it, I'd advocate casting him instead of MCD.
MCD was cast for his size, nothing more. in my opinion.
Looks and Size were not an issue with The Fox's casting at all.
and there was complaining when Halle Berry was cast as Catwoman. then again, everything about Catwoman was horrible anyway, so maybe that isn't a good comparison.
While Jolie is white she embodies the free spirit and raw sexuality of Fox better than any actress out there.
in other words Jolie is sexy as hell. I get that.
But I don't believe that there isn't a black actress that could pull this off. Gabrielle Union could, easily. I'm sure there are others. this isn't a matter of sheer size, like the Kingpin.
Jolie was cast for the star-power of her name, and little more. in my humble opinion.
xwolverine2
06-24-2008, 06:23 PM
umm angelina jolie is an oscar winning actress....
she's not just a pretty piece of meat
Hunter Rider
06-24-2008, 06:23 PM
Animalistic sexuality and being attractive are not the same, plus in all fairness Jolie is a much better actress than Union. Jolie brought star power for sure but she embodies the characteristics of Fox much better than anyone else out there IMO.
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:23 PM
did you not watch daredevil because the kingpin was black.... or x-men because logan was australian... or F4 because alba was hispanic(or w.e the hell the hybrid freak is)
that seems to me like rascism..
call it whatever you want.
Alba shouldn't have been Sue Storm anyway. she was terrible in the role.
I had no problem with Logan, and I've already explain the Kingpin.
I'd prefer that the *few* Black Lead Characters that exist in Comic Books be played as Black Lead Characters in their movie adaptation.
if that makes me a racist, then fine.
and Jolie was chosen because she is the most badass woman who can seduce you with a single stare.
yeah, i get it, you love Jolie, fine.
I still disagree with her casting as The Fox, and that's my right.
xwolverine2
06-24-2008, 06:27 PM
call it whatever you want.
Alba shouldn't have been Sue Storm anyway. she was terrible in the role.
I had no problem with Logan, and I've already explain the Kingpin.
I'd prefer that the *few* Black Lead Characters that exist in Comic Books be played as Black Lead Characters in their movie adaptation.
if that makes me a racist, then fine.
yeah, i get it, you love Jolie, she's attractive and all that. fine.
I still disagree with her casting as The Fox, and that's my right.
by all means... you can critique her acting abilities and compare her to fox.
but your against the movie because her skin color.
i dunno what else to call it ...lol
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:27 PM
Animalistic sexuality and being attractive are not the same, plus in all fairness Jolie is a much better actress than Union. Jolie brought star power for sure but she embodies the characteristics of Fox much better than anyone else out there IMO.
i'll accept that. to each his own, I say.
but my point stands.
I'd prefer the few Black Leads in Comics to be played by Black Actors in their Movie Adaptations.
Antonello Blueberry
06-24-2008, 06:33 PM
to answer both of the first two questions: to me, yes. and you could ask this question about any Comic Book Character who DIDN'T have their ethnicity changed.
Yes, but the thing is Fox isn't written as a black character. Had they cast a white actress for Storm, I would have shared your position. Being black and African is a strong part of her characterization.
Fox could have been easily white if the colorist decided to change her ethnicity and nobody would have noticed.
On the other hand, Kingpin in his very first appearance in the books was written as a black man ("I'll show you the way we do things in Harlem") and it was probably the colorist's fault if he is white on page.
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:34 PM
by all means... you can critique her acting abilities and compare her to fox.
but your against the movie because her skin color.
i dunno what else to call it ...lol
I'm not against the Movie.
I'm against the Fox casting.
which means I'll watch the movie at a later date and not in the theaters.
call it what you want.
Hunter Rider
06-24-2008, 06:35 PM
i'll accept that. to each his own, I say.
but my point stands.
I'd prefer the few Black Leads in Comics to be played by Black Actors in their Movie Adaptations.
Well i just ask one question, would you prefer a black actress that was wrong in other ways for the part, simply b/c she is black ?
Also i wonder if it is just a star thing or if it has to do with the fact Wesley has a relationship with Fox, i remember Will Smith saying a while back that with Hitch the studio let them cast a Latina actress as his girlfriend but didn't want to do a black/white mixed relationship.
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:36 PM
Yes, but the thing is Fox isn't written as a black character. Had they cast a white actress for Storm, I would have shared your position. Being black and African is a strong part of her characterization.
Fox could have been easily white if the colorist decided to change her ethnicity and nobody would have noticed.
Fox could have easily been white...but she wasn't.
but you do have a good point, and I won't argue it.
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:39 PM
Well i just ask one question, would you prefer a black actress that was wrong in other ways for the part, simply b/c she is black ?
no, not at all. example, I am praying to god that Tyrese doesn't get cast as Luke Cage.
but I'm positive that they could have found a black actress who could have done the role justice. if not, then fine.
I'm not at all convinced that they even considered any other black actresses besides maybe Halle Berry. especially since the screenwriter wrote(or rewrote) the script tailored to Jolie.
I can't know that for sure, but that's my own opinion on it.
Hunter Rider
06-24-2008, 06:47 PM
no, not at all. example, I am praying to god that Tyrese doesn't get cast as Luke Cage.
but I'm positive that they could have found a black actress who could have done the role justice. if not, then fine.
I'm not at all convinced that they even considered any other black actresses besides maybe Halle Berry. especially since the screenwriter wrote(or rewrote) the script tailored to Jolie.
I can't know that for sure, but that's my own opinion on it.
The thing is can you think of a black actress that embodies the characteristics and has star power ? This a well budgeted movie with a relatively minor star actor in the lead, so having some star cache made sense, especially when the star embodies the character in every way but colour. Plus isn't Morgan Freeman playing the role of a character that is white in the book ?
JMadisonIV
06-24-2008, 06:55 PM
The thing is can you think of a black actress that embodies the characteristics and has star power ? This a well budgeted movie with relatively minor star actor in the lead, so having some star cache made sense, especially when the star embodies the character in every way but colour. Plus isn't Morgan Freeman playing the role of a white character in the book ?
well, there isn't a black actress except Halle Berry that has the sheer starpower of Jolie. hell there aren't ANY actresses with her star power, regardless of ethnicity. I'll freely admit that.
as for characteristics, you've got Halle, Gabrielle Union and Thandie Newton just off the top of my head. I'd also say Sanaa Lathan and Nia Long, but I think Sanaa is too much of a nice-girl for the role, and I don't think Nia does action movies too much.
I don't quite remember, but I'm not sure that Morgan Freeman's character isn't even IN the book. I could be wrong though.
MightyGuy
06-24-2008, 08:04 PM
well, there isn't a black actress except Halle Berry that has the sheer starpower of Jolie. hell there aren't ANY actresses with her star power, regardless of ethnicity. I'll freely admit that.
as for characteristics, you've got Halle, Gabrielle Union and Thandie Newton just off the top of my head. I'd also say Sanaa Lathan and Nia Long, but I think Sanaa is too much of a nice-girl for the role, and I don't think Nia does action movies too much.
I don't quite remember, but I'm not sure that Morgan Freeman's character isn't even IN the book. I could be wrong though.
Casting a role based only on color tends to be just as poor a choice as casting any comic book role based just on the actor's look; acting ability has to be taken into account. All actors and actresses have strengths and weaknesses - that's why a lot of dramatic actors end up sucking when asked to do a comedic role. Halle Berry may be a good actress, but action roles have traditionally been a weakness for her, especially comic book movies - she's the weakest part of the X-men series by far, and I don't even need to mention the disaster that is "Catwoman". Angelina Jolie, on the other hand, is known for being able to play a role that is mainly one of raw sexuality and action scenes; she's built her career on it.
On top of all this, you can't underestimate the importance of "marquee value" - having "names" in a movie lends a certain security to a movie studio, which in turn encourages them to increase a film's budget, or even make a film at all. Currently, Halle Berry is probably the only black actress with a "marquee value" similar to Angelina Jolie's - putting Gabrielle Union in that role for example (which I think would be a HORRIBLE choice, but that's just my opinion) wouldn't have nearly the same box office impact, which could then adversely affect the film's budget, how the film gets made, what type of release it ends up being, etc. - it's a ripple effect. The only way an actress like Gabrielle Union would have worked would have been if they'd increased the "marquee value" of the lead actor to compensate - going out and getting a Leonardo DiCaprio to replace James McAvoy. It really does change the whole film.
That all being said, I really do think Angelina Jolie was the perfect choice for "Wanted", and I look forward to seeing how she does in the role. HOWEVER, if this film was being made 15-20 years ago, I would have LOVED to have seen what Angela Bassett could have done with the role - I think she is one black actress who could have done an amazing job as Fox, AND had the "marquee value" to make the film work as well.
(P.S. - Morgan Freeman's character is very loosely based on the character of "Professor Setzer" in the graphic novel, who was originally an old white man.)
Hunter Rider
06-24-2008, 08:17 PM
well, there isn't a black actress except Halle Berry that has the sheer starpower of Jolie. hell there aren't ANY actresses with her star power, regardless of ethnicity. I'll freely admit that.
as for characteristics, you've got Halle, Gabrielle Union and Thandie Newton just off the top of my head. I'd also say Sanaa Lathan and Nia Long, but I think Sanaa is too much of a nice-girl for the role, and I don't think Nia does action movies too much.
I don't quite remember, but I'm not sure that Morgan Freeman's character isn't even IN the book. I could be wrong though.
I honestly can't think of a role from any of those actresses with the Raw bad girl sexuality of Jolie, Union and Thandie are always nice good girls and Thandie is to small of frame to fit Fox's build, her only real link to the character would be her colour IMO. Halle has never reached Jolie's levels of sexuality or been particularly convincing as a badass but since the character was drawn to look like her and she is a star she could have been used.
The only actress who really fits all the characteristics of Fox to a degree, and is the right colour, is Rosario Dawson IMO
xwolverine2
06-24-2008, 09:47 PM
Rosario Dawson isnt black... she's totally puerto rican.
Antonello Blueberry
06-25-2008, 05:18 AM
Rosario Dawson isnt black... she's totally puerto rican.
Totally?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosario_Dawson
Dawson's mother is of Puerto Rican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican_American) and Afro-Cuban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Cuban) descent and her father is of Irish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_people) and Native American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States) ancestry.
November Rain
06-25-2008, 05:41 AM
This conversation is so stupid, i can't believe it
THEY CHANGED THE PROFESSOR'S RACE AS WELL, THE PROFESSOR IS WHITE.
so they changed a black character white and a white character black, who the **** CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hunter Rider
06-25-2008, 08:27 AM
Just got back, full review later, the movie is awesome! It's cool and darkly funny with a real feel of it's own and some amazing action. 9/10 :up:
I don't recall much complaining when MCD was cast as Kingpin.
While Jolie is white she embodies the free spirit and raw sexuality of Fox better than any actress out there.
There were multiple threads complaining about it
November Rain
06-25-2008, 10:06 AM
The thing is can you think of a black actress that embodies the characteristics and has star power ? This a well budgeted movie with a relatively minor star actor in the lead, so having some star cache made sense, especially when the star embodies the character in every way but colour. Plus isn't Morgan Freeman playing the role of a character that is white in the book ?
http://www.greghornjudge.com/images/Large/4%20Magazine%20art/555_Enter_the_Matrix_Jada_Pinkett_XBOX.jpg
jada pinkett smith has pretty much played this kinda role before in a similar get up and has the attitude to do it justice...
besides this point, i believe the role of the professor is far more important and there aren't many people who have that air of influence than morgan freeman.
Antonello Blueberry
06-25-2008, 10:18 AM
jada pinkett smith has pretty much played this kinda role before in a similar get up and has the attitude to do it justice...
But she doesn't have the star power of Angelina Jolie, who's probably right now the second best known actress worldwide.
November Rain
06-25-2008, 10:24 AM
the fact is jada does have star power which may have worked since her film would have played off against hancock's well this summer with both artists making use of one another and their close release dates.
also the question was about being able to be the fox and personally i think based on her earlier roles in 'it's a different world' jada has the capabilities to do a much better job than berry and maybe even jolie if adhering to the script. However they may have made the fox more independant and that's where jolie comes into her own. however the fox in the book was very much in need of a strong male role model to bounce off of while i could never see jolie working for the original killer and being loyal to him through the scheme.
Bastila
06-25-2008, 10:24 AM
I'll be seeing it when I get paid, sounds like it's good.
Hunter Rider
06-25-2008, 02:23 PM
Can't say Jada strikes me as sexy and statuesque like Fox, maybe the badass side, she is tiny though.
Hunter Rider
06-25-2008, 02:43 PM
I loved the way the movie took shape in the second half, the first has some great action and dark humour but once the looms and Cross start driving the story it shapes into a really cool sci fi-y thriller. The Fraternity HQ and all it's mystique and quirky inhabitants give the movie a really great atmosphere.
I thought Jolie and McAvoy were great together, Jolie was sexy, cool and in her own way noble and caring as Fox, McAvoy gives Wesley a lot of levels and comes off totally believable as the below average Joe dealing with crazy situations, who eventually becomes an assured assassin.
The bullet effects and the way Timur uses them are a joy to behold, the films editing is stunning and creates amazing, stylish action that you feel apart of, very visceral. The cinematography is also first rate.
The action in the last 35-40 minutes is insane.
The sequence where: Wesley Goes to the Fraternity HQ and takes them on is one of the most adrenaline pumping, kinetic action sequences Ive ever seen.
The ending is awesome. :D
I don't recall much complaining when MCD was cast as Kingpin.
While Jolie is white she embodies the free spirit and raw sexuality of Fox better than any actress out there.
Clearly you weren't here in 2002 and 2003 Hunter. :cwink: There was hell over a black Kingpin.
And? That's a great freakin' movie!!
I can't believe there's so much love for Undercover Brother. :wow:
Matt, you are like my hero around here but I also like Undercover Brother.
Well, color me flattered, but why the hell anyone would consider me their hero is beyond me. :huh: :cwink:
I can't wait to see this!
It's getting good to great reviews :up:
It'll be interesting to see what the "It's so different from the comicbook, so this is obviously going to suck" crowd says about this :)
deathshead2
06-26-2008, 03:20 AM
Weird how things have turned around. At first everyone had there pitchforks ready, and now people are kissing at the movies feet. Incredible, how getting closer to release date can change things.
Heh I know (http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13130950&postcount=64) :dry:
I got jumped by some guy called shin-something for calling out people who were 100% sure that the movie was going to suck...just by watching one trailer :o
Nepenthes
06-26-2008, 05:20 AM
No one really cares about seeing Jada Pinkett Smith in a film. Getting Angelina was a coup for this movie.
chesslover
06-26-2008, 06:44 PM
I was set on seeing Wall E. Now I'm leaning towards Wanted
MightyGuy
06-26-2008, 08:14 PM
Can't say Jada strikes me as sexy and statuesque like Fox, maybe the badass side, she is tiny though.
Exactly. Jada could pull off the "badass-ness" needed, perhaps - although not as well as Angelina Jolie IMO, who just screams "ass-kickery" - but I don't feel like Jada could pull off the sexuality of the character. Fox is supposed to be pretty much a walking hormone, and while Jada certainly IS a beautiful woman, there's a difference between being attractive and having an attitude of raw lust. Angelina Jolie has that "come hither" look in everything she does, which works perfectly for the character.
Plus Jada isn't even in the same LEAGUE as Angelina Jolie in terms of marquee value; at least that was one thing that Halle Berry COULD match Angelina in, even with all of Halle's other faults.
Nah, I think the studio made the right decision in going with Angelina for the role.
MightyGuy
06-26-2008, 08:16 PM
I was set on seeing Wall E. Now I'm leaning towards Wanted
See 'em both - I'm going to. If you have to choose just one for now, though, I'd go with "Wanted" this weekend. "Wall-E" is probably one of those movies that's actually a bit WORSE on the opening weekend, because the risk of being in a theater with a crying infant or group of obnoxious kids is much higher. "Wanted", OTOH, seems like one of those movies that would actually be BETTER on opening weekend, because it's the kind of crazy action film where it's more fun when the whole crowd is into it, cheering and clapping and all that.
Zombie_Comics
06-27-2008, 05:53 PM
I just saw this movie early this morning and I loved it. It was F**king Awesome. Angelina was so good in this movie. I really didn't want her to die though, it would of been better if she lived. Too bad the movie really didn't follow the comic book. I just love the part every time James McAvoy would say: "I'm Sorry." That was funny. This is one F**King cool movie.
Hunter Rider
06-27-2008, 06:43 PM
Don't forget to use spoiler tags if you post a review guys.
Zombie_Comics
06-27-2008, 07:03 PM
Woops, thanks for the reminder.
IRON_Lad
06-27-2008, 07:05 PM
I saw this last night and ****ing loved the movie!
JokerLedger
06-27-2008, 07:38 PM
Having no knowledge and having not read the comics before, I can say that this brief review comes from the mouth of who the studios want to cater to: general movie going audience. You know, just regular joes who just want to see a cool action-packed movie and believe me, they delivered. Now I've been reading all the *****ing and moaning about how the movie strays from the source material but who cares about that. Believe me... it's the least of your worries. This movie is freaking brilliant as it is. James McAvoy won me over with his performance as Wesley Gibson. I've seen Atonement and The Last King of Scotland and never gave a rats ass about this dude... but after WANTED, he's become one of the actors I will definately be following from now on. Angelina Jolie was perfect and the two had great chemistry on screen. My favorite part was when Wesley keeps on telling her to get out of his way. The expression on her face was my favorite part of the whole movie actually :)
Zombie_Comics
06-27-2008, 08:09 PM
"My favorite part was when Wesley keeps on telling her to get out of his way. The expression on her face was my favorite part of the whole movie actually" - JokerLedger
That part was pretty funny.
Even though this movie strayed very far from the comic book which is usually a no-no, and would get uproar from fans, this movie was far off enough to be a great movie on its own and no one would really mind too much that the movie was way off from the comic book. Or at leat i hope so. Yes it kinda bothers me that it didn't follow the book, but it was still a great movie.
The Master
06-27-2008, 08:20 PM
I don't recall much complaining when MCD was cast as Kingpin.
I do. Alot of people on here went nuts.
Same thing happened when Kerry Washington was cast as Alicia in FF.
Crook
06-27-2008, 08:54 PM
Just got back from the movie. Insane. I LOVED this movie, and honestly didn't mind that it strayed from the source material. This is one of those rare occasions where you won't care about it because the film is just too entertaining.
McAvoy is once again nailing every role he's in. He's fast becoming my favorite rising actor. To see him transform into this "poo-sy" (people who saw the movie will get it) and then turn into a bad-ass was exhilarating.
Lots of "OOH" and "AHH's" from the crowd, but everyone got excited when Wesley started using that one guy's head as a bullet muffler and his body for a shield, as he ran through about 30 assassins. That was balls-to-the-wall bad-ass right there. Highly recommended. :up:
Mr. Todd
06-27-2008, 09:55 PM
Just saw it, freaking AWESOME fights. 8/10
The Riddler
06-27-2008, 11:14 PM
what trailers were with wanted?
probably going to see it later tonight.
JokerLedger
06-27-2008, 11:51 PM
at my theatre it was X-files 2, Death Race, and Mummy 3.
Lord Blackbolt
06-28-2008, 12:46 AM
I don't know how they can do a sequel...what's left to do....
November Rain
06-28-2008, 04:45 AM
there's absolutely plenty left for them to do...
Since the fraternity is not an 'evil' organisation per say, sloan could have had dealings with the REAL villains and using the fraternity to try and build an empire. Once sloan dies, he enherits his turf and then meets the professor to follow a similar line to what happened in the second part of the comics with him getting off by doing evil things
Then they can introduce her mother who was actually a villain
not to mention the dude who played the killer of fox's dad can still come back and mister rictus could be brought back from the dead to play his hand as an evil bastard who realised there was no heaven or hell
Anubis Raptor
06-28-2008, 04:56 AM
Movie is looking to be awesome.
nightcrawler01
06-29-2008, 12:05 PM
8/10
Great action, good story line, different.
I rate it 8/10 but this isn't one of those movies I would say is "enjoyable" to watch over and over again. At least to me it's not. Kinda like The Boondock Saints I would rate 11/10 lol but during stressful times the last movies I want to see is Wanted or Boondock Saints.
The movie seemed to me is about a bunch of assassins. I don't know, that to seems kinda low so I gave it an 8/10. Lets face it, I would rather be a scientist who gets zapped with gamma radiation and turn into a Hulk
shapeshifter
06-29-2008, 12:20 PM
guess i'll have to check it out.
i was afraid it would be another **** ball like mr and mrs smith
mrvlknight21
06-29-2008, 12:24 PM
Like I said in the other thread, my expectations were pretty low and this movie didnt even meet them. I was soooo bored and between rolling my eyes, I was looking at my watch and wondering what else I could have been doing for 2 hours. I am really surprised at all the good reviews, both on these boards and from the "professional" reviewers.
Total crap. I expected it to be about a 5....I GIVE it a 3.
shapeshifter
06-29-2008, 12:47 PM
Like I said in the other thread, my expectations were pretty low and this movie didnt even meet them. I was soooo bored and between rolling my eyes, I was looking at my watch and wondering what else I could have been doing for 2 hours. I am really surprised at all the good reviews, both on these boards and from the "professional" reviewers.
Total crap. I expected it to be about a 5....I GIVE it a 3.
ah ha. so there is someone willing to give it a less than stellar review. and don't be to surprised at the reaction. some people here have seen indy 4 5 to 6 times.
I almost never trust a review around here.
BloodyWolverine
06-29-2008, 01:32 PM
Um Wanted was not destroyed.
Wall-E 62.3 million.
Wanted 50.1 million.
Pretty competitive movie if ask me.
mrvlknight21
06-29-2008, 05:39 PM
ah ha. so there is someone willing to give it a less than stellar review. and don't be to surprised at the reaction. some people here have seen indy 4 5 to 6 times.
I almost never trust a review around here.
In my opinion it deserves a terrible review. It was just really really bad.
Dont get me started on Indy 4...I dont even consider that Indiana Jones...more like some imposter.
mrvlknight21
06-29-2008, 05:41 PM
guess i'll have to check it out.
i was afraid it would be another **** ball like mr and mrs smith
By the way...Mr and Mrs Smith is better than this.
shapeshifter
06-29-2008, 06:42 PM
By the way...Mr and Mrs Smith is better than this.
gotcha
Pass!
jaymes_e06
06-29-2008, 08:25 PM
I loved it! Really inventive and not at all a rip off of the Matrix like some are trying to say.
Infinity9999x
06-29-2008, 11:54 PM
In my opinion it deserves a terrible review. It was just really really bad.
Dont get me started on Indy 4...I dont even consider that Indiana Jones...more like some imposter.
Personally I thought it was alright. It was a fun action movie.
And Indy 4 wasn't any worse then TOD, I don't see why so many people seem to think it was horrible.
mrvlknight21
06-30-2008, 04:05 PM
Personally I thought it was alright. It was a fun action movie.
And Indy 4 wasn't any worse then TOD, I don't see why so many people seem to think it was horrible.
WOW. Indy 4 was definitely worse than Temple in my opinion. DEFINITELY. I admit, they both had their share of corny and cheesy moments. BUT-Indy 4 was WAYYYYYYYYYY too over the top. Shia swinging through the trees ALONE made me cringe. That scene alone was one of the worst moments in film history to me!
Bastila
06-30-2008, 06:19 PM
I really liked this film, action was cool last 20mins where cool!
Good twist as well, thought that was done nicely and being a Night/Day Watch fan, Anton from the films was in it which was very cool nicely done by the Director.
But just popped online quickly but liked this more then I thought.
samsnee
06-30-2008, 07:05 PM
I was surprised I liked it. Yes, it was not at all like the source material, but I think it's ok because it was still enjoyable. I thought it went by pretty fast, and McAvoy was really good as a lead, even if he was just rehashing Norton from Fight Club.
Infinity9999x
07-01-2008, 07:59 PM
WOW. Indy 4 was definitely worse than Temple in my opinion. DEFINITELY. I admit, they both had their share of corny and cheesy moments. BUT-Indy 4 was WAYYYYYYYYYY too over the top. Shia swinging through the trees ALONE made me cringe. That scene alone was one of the worst moments in film history to me!
Sans that one scene (and I will admit, it was incredibly stupid, even for an Indy movie) I don't really think anything else in Indy 4 was any more or less cheesy then the stuff that happened in TOD.
shapeshifter
07-01-2008, 08:50 PM
Personally I thought it was alright. It was a fun action movie.
And Indy 4 wasn't any worse then TOD, I don't see why so many people seem to think it was horrible.
lets not open that can of worms here.
Bastila
07-04-2008, 04:16 PM
I think I'll end up buying it on dvd :p
RickO'Connell
07-04-2008, 04:33 PM
The twist in this movie had one of the best twists ever in a superhero / secret agent type movie. That was one hell of a cover up
RickO'Connell
07-04-2008, 04:47 PM
I never thought I would hear Morgan Freeman say
"Shoot this mother****er"
lmao :o
mrvlknight21
07-05-2008, 08:45 AM
Sans that one scene (and I will admit, it was incredibly stupid, even for an Indy movie) I don't really think anything else in Indy 4 was any more or less cheesy then the stuff that happened in TOD.
Ok, well we at least agree on that scene. Cool.
Let me try to point out a few other ridculous things:
Giant ants----WTF?
the bomb that doesnt affect Indy bc of an old lead refrigerator-come on?
I wont mention the 3 drops on a raft w/ no injuries bc T.O.D. actually had a similar scene.
also, the ridiculously LONG and BORING swordfight btw Shia and the russian chick....it was just terrible terrible.
Indy 4 seemed made for kids. That is what I got out of it and it shouldnt be that way imo. Might as well put Jar Jar in it! It had aliens, why not Jar Jar..I mean that was what Indy 4 was on par with to me.
I know the Indiana Jones movies have all been rated PG (except Indy 3 strangely), and thus kids CAN watch it..but that doesnt mean that the movie should CATER to that audience ...especially if the original idea of the character isnt structured that way. Most kids would be BORED to death watching Raiders of Lost Ark. There is a lot of history, storytelling, etc etc. THAT IS WHAT INDY IS ABOUT! He is a freaking archeologist, not a superhero! You want to see someone swing through the trees? There are 3 Spiderman flicks out there..pick one up.
In comparison to Raiders, Indy 4 on the other hand was full of action...but that isnt necessarily a good thing. Set up the story, make it worthwhile and then build the action around that.
I believe the alien thing could have actually been done well. I do. It was a different approach that some wouldnt expect.
But what do I know. Im not a Hollywood producer making millions. :oldrazz:
mrvlknight21
07-05-2008, 08:46 AM
The twist in this movie had one of the best twists ever in a superhero / secret agent type movie. That was one hell of a cover up
?? what are you referring to??
The loom or the father-son thing?
RickO'Connell
07-05-2008, 09:15 AM
?? what are you referring to??
The loom or the father-son thing?
The father & son thing
Lord Blackbolt
07-05-2008, 12:21 PM
Ok, well we at least agree on that scene. Cool.
Let me try to point out a few other ridculous things:
Giant ants----WTF?
the bomb that doesnt affect Indy bc of an old lead refrigerator-come on?
I wont mention the 3 drops on a raft w/ no injuries bc T.O.D. actually had a similar scene.
also, the ridiculously LONG and BORING swordfight btw Shia and the russian chick....it was just terrible terrible.
Indy 4 seemed made for kids. That is what I got out of it and it shouldnt be that way imo. Might as well put Jar Jar in it! It had aliens, why not Jar Jar..I mean that was what Indy 4 was on par with to me.
I know the Indiana Jones movies have all been rated PG (except Indy 3 strangely), and thus kids CAN watch it..but that doesnt mean that the movie should CATER to that audience ...especially if the original idea of the character isnt structured that way. Most kids would be BORED to death watching Raiders of Lost Ark. There is a lot of history, storytelling, etc etc. THAT IS WHAT INDY IS ABOUT! He is a freaking archeologist, not a superhero! You want to see someone swing through the trees? There are 3 Spiderman flicks out there..pick one up.
In comparison to Raiders, Indy 4 on the other hand was full of action...but that isnt necessarily a good thing. Set up the story, make it worthwhile and then build the action around that.
I believe the alien thing could have actually been done well. I do. It was a different approach that some wouldnt expect.
But what do I know. Im not a Hollywood producer making millions. :oldrazz:
Those ants weren't giant:whatever: Those red man eating ants are in fact REAL... they were cg in the movie...but they do exist.
And yes Raiders was more adult...but each one of the Indy sequels became progressively dumbed down. Also to many people..... Indy is a superhero. He is to me.
I do agree with you about the alien thing though...I would have liked them not showing the actual alien...but whatever. It didn't bother me too much. I thought it was a worthing follow up....and I loved the sword fighting scene. Classic 50's serial action. Which is the whole point of a Indy movie. It's suppose to be a old serial movie with modern effects.
mrvlknight21
07-05-2008, 02:12 PM
The father & son thing
Really????
I saw that from the minute they started saying that the guy killed his father. It was pretty obvious to me they were sending him to kill his own father..even from the beginning.
mrvlknight21
07-05-2008, 02:18 PM
Those ants weren't giant:whatever: Those red man eating ants are in fact REAL... they were cg in the movie...but they do exist.
And yes Raiders was more adult...but each one of the Indy sequels became progressively dumbed down. Also to many people..... Indy is a superhero. He is to me.
I do agree with you about the alien thing though...I would have liked them not showing the actual alien...but whatever. It didn't bother me too much. I thought it was a worthing follow up....and I loved the sword fighting scene. Classic 50's serial action. Which is the whole point of a Indy movie. It's suppose to be a old serial movie with modern effects.
Well I was calling them giant because they were bigger than typical ants. Even if they do exist, it was wayyyyy too cartoonish imo. And yes, each of the Indy sequels got more cheesy.
Wow, Im surprised anyone like the swordfight.
And dont get me wrong, I agree that Indy is a hero. If he was just an archeologist, the movies wouldnt be very good or have the following that they have.
I do disagree with the 50s serial action being the POINT of an Indy movie. It may/should be included, but its not the POINT.
I guess we got this thread off track..sorry about that.
Anubis Raptor
07-05-2008, 05:14 PM
Loved it from beginning to end. Amazing. Just amazing.
Drizzle
07-05-2008, 05:19 PM
I saw it today. Awesome movie. Liked it a lot more than I thought I would.
Lord Blackbolt
07-05-2008, 08:49 PM
I do disagree with the 50s serial action being the POINT of an Indy movie. It may/should be included, but its not the POINT.
.
How is that not the point when the film makers themselves say that IS the POINT. All the indy movies are modern updates of old movie serials that Steven and Lucas grew up on.
The Game
07-05-2008, 08:59 PM
I thought it was a good film, some of the crowd reactions were funny when this movie called them losers.
Nivek
07-05-2008, 11:55 PM
Caught it tonight on a whim. Was very surprised, much like V for Vendetta, I felt the changes made for a better movie over the graphic novel. It wasn't deep, was over the top and entertaining. This russian guy who directed it, from Nightwatch/Daywatch/Twilight Watch, somebody better get some good properties in his hands. Like a Daredevil redux would fit him really well.
mrvlknight21
07-06-2008, 10:28 AM
How is that not the point when the film makers themselves say that IS the POINT. All the indy movies are modern updates of old movie serials that Steven and Lucas grew up on.
The character and series is modeled after those, I wont disagree with that. So it is the inspiration, but saying that old serials is the POINT of the film, I feel is inaccurate.
However, even if my assessment of the serial-Indy Jones comparison/inspiration is wrong..I stand by what I said-the swordfight was an awful long boring scene imo.
the_ultimate_evil
07-08-2008, 08:37 AM
great movie, the action was great. though hvaing read the book i still left the cinema thinking what could have been( i know stupid aspects like f**k wit and **** head wouldn't work but they could have keep a lot of elements like rictus the 5 council members) i mean the easy option would be to drop the heroes angle and just have them contol the governments
maybe i should have went into it blank and read the book after, i'm now torn to read watchmen before i see that
COAL TIGER
07-09-2008, 03:59 AM
As a entertaining action movie, it was nice, the action itself was good. But as a comic book based movie, it was terrible. Through out the movie I was hoping they would surprise us by having Wesley wear his killer outfit when found his fathers storage. I still wanna see the comic version.
Saw it yesterday. It was good. It had couple of very cool scenes (Wesley "quitting" his day job, Angelina driving Lada, the ending).
The machine that did gave the assigments was beyond ridiculous. Wtf?
I liked it more than the comic which i found overrated :o
Colossus24
07-10-2008, 05:15 PM
I would of liked the movie on its own, but because they took a legion of super villians taking over the world and changed it to weavers made me dislike the movie. And for all the badass things that happened in the movie, the climax involves exploding rats? really? thats the best they could do?
Superark
07-10-2008, 10:57 PM
Not very good at all! Why did Jolie have to die?!?!
stardust
07-11-2008, 11:43 AM
This is your only concern? LOL
M.O.Steel
07-12-2008, 05:42 PM
saw the movie and had a question. so how do they know who to kill? how the hell does the loom talk?
Majic Walrus
07-15-2008, 09:24 PM
Worst comic book adaption ever put to film. Simple. Worse than the first Hulk. That's how bad.
fu manchu
07-16-2008, 09:31 PM
so how do they know who to kill?
i also wonder about that but i assume that information was also provided by the weaving of the threads from the loom.
how the hell does the loom talk?
by binary code.
M.O.Steel
07-16-2008, 09:38 PM
i also wonder about that but i assume that information was also provided by the weaving of the threads from the loom.
by binary code.
i understand that part. I was confused as to how the loom knew what to code. it's not a living thing. it's just random 0s and 1s that conviniently spell out a name exactly down to the letter. still doesn't make sense.
p4poetic
07-22-2008, 03:49 PM
9.5 - 10.
Its one of those movies that you HAVE to see at the movie theater to get the full effect of it. I feel sorry for the cheap bums out there who are just going to 'download' the movie from torrents to watch on a little 400x400 box on the internet, but more power to them though :)
fu manchu
07-22-2008, 08:37 PM
i understand that part. I was confused as to how the loom knew what to code. it's not a living thing. it's just random 0s and 1s that conviniently spell out a name exactly down to the letter. still doesn't make sense.
yeah, i had the same problem with believing that the loom coming up with the names. but i assume its like a religion to the fraternity, where they don't want to question the logic of it.
M.O.Steel
07-22-2008, 09:37 PM
i don't buy...at least with religion you could attribute to a higher being. this one didn't make sense at all. how was it in the book?
Anti-Moderator
07-23-2008, 03:45 PM
It wasn't.
punxnotdead
07-24-2008, 04:54 AM
I watched it two weeks ago and I wasn't impressed. I didn't like the vulgar language they used. It sounded forced and the way they also unnecessairly beat him.The language definately brought my opinon of it down several notches. If not for it, I may have enjoyed it much more.
However, there was plenty of acton to keep my attention piqued. The speical effects were very well done and I thought it was hilarious how the main character said "I'm sorry" in slow motion to the police in the car chase when they flipped the car over the police cruiser. That was hilarious.
As for them being able to bend bullets, it seems a little far-fetched and corney, as with some of the scenes. But it was still cool.
There was alot of blood. I think they may have over-gored it a bit. I really dislike when movies overgore or overexadurate a movie.
The main character is an excellent actor. He's very good at portraying distress in a realistic manner.
And, of course, I like Angelina Jole. She's great at playing the tough chick with the guns and enjoyable to watch on screen.
The storyline is bizzare. I liked the twists and turns it provided, but I didn't really feel the movie.
I'd give it 6 bullets/10
xisaacx
07-28-2008, 04:10 PM
Why is there no 0 rating?
Dark Victory
07-29-2008, 04:50 AM
I loved it
DBella
02-02-2009, 12:38 AM
i understand that part. I was confused as to how the loom knew what to code. it's not a living thing. it's just random 0s and 1s that conviniently spell out a name exactly down to the letter. still doesn't make sense.
Saw the film last night and that loom factor confused me as well. I didn't understand it. Unless I'm suppose to be like a... religion. Is there some higher power at work?
I thought it was an entertaining movie. Loved the action and that curve bullet thing was just... for lack of a better word, "WHOA!"
7/10
xwolverine2
02-12-2009, 09:39 PM
Why is there no 0 rating?
:whatever:
Business Time
02-16-2009, 06:22 PM
I didn't hate it, but there was too much slow-mo and they didn't stay true to many of the characters - for example, Fox was NOTHING like the one in the graphic novel. But it was pretty cool...they just overdid everything.
Optikal
02-17-2009, 03:43 AM
As a comic book adaptaition, it failed on almost every level.
As a movie though (which I watched it as before reading the book) it was awesome. A really good saturday night popcorn action flick. I love the main actor, I adore Angelina and Morgan Freeman is never anything less than fantastic. The twist was predictable, but it doesn't really take away anything from the movie. A really enjoyable romp overall.
8.5/10 from me.
I didn't hate it, but there was too much slow-mo and they didn't stay true to many of the characters - for example, Fox was NOTHING like the one in the graphic novel. But it was pretty cool...they just overdid everything.
Just wait for Watchmen. :woot:
Anti-Moderator
02-26-2009, 07:44 PM
Just wait for Watchmen. :woot:
Yeah...it'll actually be good.
Tyrinus
04-04-2009, 09:34 PM
Saw the film last night and that loom factor confused me as well. I didn't understand it. Unless I'm suppose to be like a... religion. Is there some higher power at work?
I thought it was an entertaining movie. Loved the action and that curve bullet thing was just... for lack of a better word, "WHOA!"
7/10
From the dialogue I took it to be Fate controlling the coding. They set the loom in motion and it was fate if a name was coded in.
Red Mask
08-02-2009, 10:54 AM
I finally watched it tonight. It's not bad, if you want to see how to brainwash a guy into being in a cult. Otherwise, I like Timur's Nightwatch films better.
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