What will happen now that everyone knows Stark is Ironman?

[imnotbatman]

i didnt expect that. in the comics, does everyone know hes ironman or is it a secret? i just dont know what they would do in the sequel with everyone knowing who he is now.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

I expect it could tie in or lead into their take on the "Demon in a Bottle" story arc. Think about it: the hassles of running a successful yet very dangerous business, maybe a dragon and a magician running around with a covert terrorist group, and the few citizens who'd sue Stark for damages during his battles against the film's villain(s) for a quick buck, and all of it leaves Stark extremely stressed. Basically, I wanna see him revealing himself come back to bite him in the ass and be a catalyst for going to the booze.

[Morg]

Demon in the bottle story not going to happen

[The Major]

i didnt expect that. in the comics, does everyone know hes ironman or is it a secret? i just dont know what they would do in the sequel with everyone knowing who he is now.

Didn't used to be this way in the comic until a late 90's.

Tony's secret identity accidentally got leaked in Joe Quesada's run and before that in Busiek's who took it back by wiping everyone on Earth of the knowledge with an A.I.M super-weapon IIRC. Been a while since I've read their story lines so I may have gotten the timing messed up.

Some time after that but before Civil War Tony "came out" of his own volition.

He became a government official. I think he worked as the leader of the Department of Defense. He's kept his identity public since then and now is the director of SHIELD.

[giggs11uk]

I think the demon in a bottle storyline should parallel RDJs own struggle with addiction. Roberts real story is about his struggle with fame and Iron Man would go through the same thing now that everyone knows who he is. So Favreau should try and use RDJs real life experinces

[TheVileOne]

Tony's alcoholism was triggered by Iron Man's repulsor blast killing a man in a plot by Justin Hammer.

[Troy_Parker]

I Thought repulsor blasts were non fatal

[Eggyman]

I Thought repulsor blasts were non fatal

Anything can be fatal if used in the right way. You could throw a cabbage at someone's head and make them stumble into the path of a truck. The repulsors probably didn't decapitate the guy, but led to the death - kinda like Spidey with Gwen: his webs don't exactly look lethal, but they did a good job at breaking her neck.

[Troy_Parker]

Point Taken..., How Did The Dude Die Anyway?

[Eggyman]

Don't know, man. Normally I'd say 'Google is your friend' but I just did a quick search and came up short.

[Immortalfire]

Anything can be fatal if used in the right way. You could throw a cabbage at someone's head and make them stumble into the path of a truck.

Beautiful :lmao:

[JediMasterConor]

Demon in the bottle story not going to happen

and how do you come to that conclusion?

[TheVileOne]

Iron Man's hand was behind the guy's back. Device activated, repulsor blast goes off and right through the guy.

[Eggyman]

Iron Man's hand was behind the guy's back. Device activated, repulsor blast goes off and right through the guy.

Well there goes my cabbage theory :dry:

[Immortalfire]

Poor eggy :(

[Troy_Parker]

& there i was thinking how a cabbage could kill a man... :csad:

[giggs11uk]

Iron Man's hand was behind the guy's back. Device activated, repulsor blast goes off and right through the guy.

That might be a bit too much for a film though. I still think the fame is going to lead him to drink. Just think about the press would be furious at Stark for his womanizing and all that, he's a hero, kids look up to him, people wouldn't think he was being a responsible role model

[TheVileOne]

I honestly don't want to see a celebrity meltdown that's parallel to something like Britney Spears, Michael Richardson, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan or whatever. Because quite frankly for at least Spears and Hilton they were whores before their so-called meltdowns.

At the end of the day, Tony Stark/Iron Man is a guy that believes he's doing some good (while his approach might be questionable on how truly good it is). While it doesn't have to be exactly the same as the comics, the pressures of being a public figure as well as a super hero as well as the combination of screwing up where an incident he's involved in causes someone else that's innocent to get hurt or killed would push him over the edge. Because that's sort of what it was, he wanted to become Iron Man to help people, and suddenly someone gets hurt because of him and he feels guilty over it so he takes solace in the bottle. While he was a drinker before, he never really let it get out of hand, and after that it did.

[Eggyman]

I was thinking that maybe they could bring out Stark's problem with the drink as a result of people knowing that he's Iron Man. He could try and do good but people are everywhere trying to cash in on the heroe's obvious wealth. Some silly stuff like someone falling from a building, IM saves them but they get whiplash in the process. The city files suit upon suit against him for dangerous conduct. He slowly sinks into the bottle, thinking he can't do right for doing wrong. If he didn't perform his heroisms then he'd be in the wrong, and yet when he does them he has vultures ready to knock him down.

Arrr *brain spasm* :/

:o

Anyway, I think that could work, and it'd also leave them free to creat the inclination about why he may want to make people think that he isn't actually IM in the future.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

I honestly don't want to see a celebrity meltdown that's parallel to something like Britney Spears, Michael Richardson, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan or whatever. Because quite frankly for at least Spears and Hilton they were whores before their so-called meltdowns.

At the end of the day, Tony Stark/Iron Man is a guy that believes he's doing some good (while his approach might be questionable on how truly good it is). While it doesn't have to be exactly the same as the comics, the pressures of being a public figure as well as a super hero as well as the combination of screwing up where an incident he's involved in causes someone else that's innocent to get hurt or killed would push him over the edge. Because that's sort of what it was, he wanted to become Iron Man to help people, and suddenly someone gets hurt because of him and he feels guilty over it so he takes solace in the bottle. While he was a drinker before, he never really let it get out of hand, and after that it did.Yeah I'd much prefer it to play out like this than be due to his new celebrity status.

[Eggyman]

Fine :mad:

[giggs11uk]

I honestly don't want to see a celebrity meltdown that's parallel to something like Britney Spears, Michael Richardson, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan or whatever. Because quite frankly for at least Spears and Hilton they were whores before their so-called meltdowns.

At the end of the day, Tony Stark/Iron Man is a guy that believes he's doing some good (while his approach might be questionable on how truly good it is). While it doesn't have to be exactly the same as the comics, the pressures of being a public figure as well as a super hero as well as the combination of screwing up where an incident he's involved in causes someone else that's innocent to get hurt or killed would push him over the edge. Because that's sort of what it was, he wanted to become Iron Man to help people, and suddenly someone gets hurt because of him and he feels guilty over it so he takes solace in the bottle. While he was a drinker before, he never really let it get out of hand, and after that it did.

I changed my mind I like what you said better what you said really makes us care about Tonys situation unllike celeb meltdowns which no one truely sympathizes with. Still I would to see some Downey influence though

[The Question]

Honestly, I think it would be much more organic to have the alcoholism come from the stress of being both Tony Stark and Iron Man. Not the celebrity that comes from it, the responsibility. Tony is fighting to undo the damage he did dealing weapons, both in the board room and in the field. The further he goes, the more he digs through everything he never cared to notice before, the more he's going to see his technology, past and present, being corrupted others. Favreau said that a big inspiration for Tony's character arc in the sequel will be Robert Oppenheimer, the director of the Manhattan Project. Oppenheimer was quoted to have said, upon seeing the first test of the bomb, "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." Seeing how much Stark technology is being used to kill and otherwise ruin the world would probably make Tony feel the same way. And the stress of trying to undo it all will probably make a nice scotch on the rocks at the end of the day sound very tempting.

[Morg]

and how do you come to that conclusion?

read it in another thread

[The Major]

I Thought repulsor blasts were non fatal
I got the impression the terrorists shot by Iron Mn with repulsor blasts died.

[TheVileOne]

At the end of the day, we all have our own interpretations and opinions. So hopefully in the movie they do a good job and make strong choices. The execution of the alcoholism might be considerably different than what we are expecting.

[Roaring_Hulk!]

At the end of the day, we all have our own interpretations and opinions. So hopefully in the movie they do a good job and make strong choices. The execution of the alcoholism might be considerably different than what we are expecting.

Maybe it doesn't make Stark depressed, but more too jolly and irresponsible.

[Boom]

Guess he'll have to up his home's security system.

Oh well. The movie was still solid gold.

[Eggyman]

Guess he'll have to up his home's security system.

Oh well. The movie was still solid gold.

With a lil Hotrod red in there ;)

[ObakeTora]

Iron Man's hand was behind the guy's back. Device activated, repulsor blast goes off and right through the guy.

I hope they can show this scene and still keep a pg-13 rating.

cuz it sounds awesome.

[Eggyman]

I think maybe it'd work better if Stark went on a guilt trip because of some collateral damage, rather than maiming some poor bugger with his repulsors :/

[Brian Braddock]

Tony's alcoholism was triggered by Iron Man's repulsor blast killing a man in a plot by Justin Hammer.

The guy was the Ambassador for Carnelia who was killed at a press conference at the U.N. to announce that they were to let Stark Industries into their very secretive country to build an electronics plant. It was huge deal and the entire worlds press were reporting the event. The kicker was that the ambassador was a really likeable guy who idolised Iron Man - even asked for his autograph.

Oh the irony.

I woundnt necessarily say that the event actually triggered Tony's alcoholism; it just tipped Tony over the edge and he sought even more refuge/comfort in the drink - the issues preceding the killing makes efforts to highlight Tony's ever escalating drinking habit by having various characters noting how Tony is drinking through the day, how many drinks he's had and even Bethany Cabe asks him if there isn't any other way Tony can 'unwind' without having to have a drink while they're out enjoyng a meal (I'm just thumbing through some of the issues now and the amount of panels showing Tony having a casual drink is amazing)

In that respect, the movie layed the groundwork by showing Tony with a glass in his hand on numerous occasions.

I actually think that it would tranlsate well to the big screen.

[Brian Braddock]

Just thought on - The main difference though is that in the comic, Tony was able to personally vouch for his bodyguard and surrendered the IM armor (after he'd removed most of the circuitry before hand - sneaky Tony) for inspection.

I'll be interesting to see how they go about it this time; how is Tony gonna be able to vouch for himself?

[Brian Braddock]

Found a scan:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/solongsergei.jpg

[Iron Avenger]

maybe instead of using Justin Hammer as a rival businessman, they could use the Mandarin in the sequel......

[oriole]

honestly I wish he hadnt revealed himself to be Iron Man in the end......to me it just brings about a bunch of unecessary drama/subplots. I dont really want to see him hit the bottle because of press/citizens knowing he is iron man. If Iron man messes up in anyway now we would have to deal with seeing tony stark being hunted down or prosecuted or go to court and blah blah blah. The only way Id be ok with him going to court is if matt murdock is his lawyer lol. No but seriously Iron man 2 has the potential to be one of the greats. Ya know everyone wants to compare TDK to Iron man but few think of the simple fact that TDK is a well done sequel........SEQUEL! Iron man is an origin story and we know theres a limit to how great origin storys can be......they have so many limitations. Its an unfair comparison. If you want to compare the two compare Iron man to BB.

[Brian Braddock]

Actually, I think it makes things a tad more interesting.

In the comics, Tony could hide behind the persona of Iron Man when things got rough.

Due to the secret i.d. reveal in the movie - he can't do that in the sequel.

[Microchip]

The kicker was that the ambassador was a really likeable guy who idolised Iron Man - even asked for his autograph.

Oh the irony.

I think that's just a little too cute-sty. "Iron Man, I'm your biggest fan, I love you and want to be just like you *BAM*" Noooo!!!!!

Personally, I think it'd just be better if he causes collatoral damage, or runs into public scrutiny over questionable actions or public damage, and is driven to depression and alcoholism.

[oriole]

Doubt they would do it but it would create an emotional crater, and create a real feeling of sympothy and understanding if the collateral damage or person he acciddently shot was a child/children. I know that sounds awful lol but I think that would really turn someone to alcohol more than anything if you took the life of someone truly innocent in every way. You could have assination attempts at iron man or tony stark.....what if that someone that was killed or harmed due to collateral damage was because he was drunk? And you guys will get on me about this one lol this may be taking it to far but what if that special someone he killed was close to Rhodey.....perhaps a girlfriend..........GAHHH the possibilities are endless for This iron man vs war machine plot

[zerohour films]

The ending with Tony stating he is Iron Man was done perfectly.

It could either pickup in the sequel that everyone knows or you could very easliy pick right up at that same press conference and Tony could make a quip saying he was only kidding after working the press into a frenzy. Would be especially funny since they had just asked him if he was and he said no, then yes, then no again.

Masterfully done as it does not box them in for the sequel, yet provided such a good shock for the audience.

It will be interesting what they cook up for the next one and if they will allow him to be "out" as a superhero.

[TheComicbookKid]

The true problem for me with "Demon in a Bottle" is that alcoholism is a serious illness and should be treated as such( Hancock has superpowers). Tony's appeal is that he's human.

Favreau said he wants to keep the movies entertaining for children and that's the exact opposite mindset to portray "The Bottle" storyline. It doesn't need to be indie film level depressing but it needs to have a certain gravitas to it. No after school special type-everything's wrapped up nicely for the hero to regain his composure by the big villain fight at the end.

[Ziggyman]

They will make a "Stark Industries" symbol and shine it to the sky for when he is needed to kick/Repulsor ray some bad guy ass

[Troy_Parker]

I got the impression the terrorists shot by Iron Mn with repulsor blasts died.

Oh God, When I Said I THOUGHT REPULSOR BLASTS WERE NON FATAL I WAS QUOTING THE MOVIE, IT'S NOT AN EXACT QUOTE BUT I RECALL SOMEONE IN THE MOVIE SAYING THAT REPULSOR BLASTS ARE NON FATAL AND you spelled Iron Man wrong, :oldrazz:

[Red Mask]

The ending with Tony stating he is Iron Man was done perfectly.

It could either pickup in the sequel that everyone knows or you could very easliy pick right up at that same press conference and Tony could make a quip saying he was only kidding after working the press into a frenzy. Would be especially funny since they had just asked him if he was and he said no, then yes, then no again.

Masterfully done as it does not box them in for the sequel, yet provided such a good shock for the audience.

It will be interesting what they cook up for the next one and if they will allow him to be "out" as a superhero.

I've grappled with the ending because I'm a traditionalist on secret identities. But thinking about it now, I realize that was Tony making himself accountable for his actions. After he escaped the Ten Rings he publicly was remorseful at how he'd run his business. Creating Iron Man wasn't enough. He truly had to prove to the people he wants to be accountable for his actions. So he tossed SHEILD's cover story.

Let's face it, unlike what Batman said in "Dark Knight', :batty:the people deserve to know the truth. That goes especially when weapons are fired in their streets! Russia and China may get away with it, but not in America! :im:

[Troy_Parker]

What Will Happen Now That Everyone Knows Stark Is Iron Man?






Sexings will happen, lots and lots of sexings :woot:

[Rich Santoro]

What Will Happen Now That Everyone Knows Stark Is Iron Man?

Sexings will happen, lots and lots of sexings :woot:

I like to think that some bad guys will come gunning for him... and his competition would know where to look to try and get at the IM tech. This would make life very dangerous... not to mention, those that he thwarts would know where to look for revenge (such as... the Mandarin, for the destruction of his terrorist operation that was set up in Afganistan).

Plus, Tony will start to lose his identity... as the super-millionaire playboy becomes known as the super-hero to the public. People wouldn't fawn over him for his money and success anymore... they would pry at him over his life as IM.

[The Sage]

http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/93799/[Movies]-Iron-Man-2-To-Focus-on-The-Nature-of-Identity.htm

More information on the anticipated sequel…

Iron Man 2 screenwriter Justin Theroux recently discussed the anticipated sequel with MTV, and had the following to say on the film's story.

"The obvious thing to improve upon - well, it's not even an improvement it's just something to embrace - which is that he's now a hero that lives in the real world. That's unique. It is something that we've made a real decision to run towards rather than away from."

Theroux is referring to the end of the first Iron Man film, where Tony Stark revealed that he was the Iron Man. The script for Iron Man 2 looks to revolve around the problems this brings up.

[Rich Santoro]

^ This is good... I hope to see a number of personal issues arise:


Tony and his friends / associates would be in danger from any bad guys looking to get at IM
Stark would be less the pubic attraction as opposed to IM
People would pry as to what is Stark up to as IM... How is he accounting for the failures of his company
There would be a media frenzy over the who-what-where-when-whys and hows regarding IM
There wold be legal questions regarding a citizen possessing the IM suit as a weapon and him going on missions (careful not to encroach to heavily on Spiderman territory)
The stresses of a company in transition (along with who wants to invest in this company with a high-flying CEO)
The relationship with SHIELD and involvement with the Avengers Initiative
The competition seeking to replicate the IM technology and arc-reactor
New techy badness
Much, much more

[Franklin Richards]

First thing. He gets sued.


Next. The media tears him apart.

Finally. He saves the world from itself despite his flaws.


And there's your movie folks. :D


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Franklin Richards]

duble


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[LightningFlash]

Maybe it doesn't make Stark depressed, but more too jolly and irresponsible.

I could see this happening in the film, but less "jolly" and much more irresponsible...perhaps he becomes an alcoholic because of him not wanting to continue being Iron Man BECAUSE the way he told it in the meeting, and now everyone wants Iron Man there and not Tony Stark, you know? Like people don't realize they're the same person and not taking in Stark's desires, etc.

A way in which Rhodes then puts the armor on and becomes War Machine.

But I also suspect that's how the Avengers are born...Nick Fury seems to be taking in heroes that are "out in the open" with their identities...obvious with Stark, but it seems that some people figured out Banner being Hulk(like Stanley), so S.H.I.E.L.D. are trying to get him to join, just for his safety, and that's why they are asking for General Ross's help in the initiative. Just a thought. Although that route seems plausible, just because it doesn't have Spider-Man or any members of the X-Men(they do go by alter-egos and not OUT); so the whole "keeping the identities and their loved ones safe" route seems possible.