Tombstone Appreciation Thread

[Ratcrawler]

I just wanna say how refreshing it is to see a prominent African American supervillain. Most human supervillains, from the X-Men's rogues to Batman's have been caucasian. The Batman reinvented Clayface with Ethan Bennet; you're typical green-eyed black man who would go on to sPend most of his screen time as an amorphous gray blob. Then, for little reason, they found a way to return him to normal and give his powers to a white dude. What the hell?

There were also a few on the earlier, more progressive series "Static Shock" including one who could turn into shadowy dark matter, one who could elongate himself and a Jamaican with powerful leg muscles. Now, it has been suggested that these powers just played off of black stereotypes, but that was really the last thing that came to mind as I saw Static fight crime and crack jokes with his brilliant whitebread partner.

Well, it's been a long road but we finally come to Tombstone. Sure, his complexion's whiter than chalkdust, his teeth are filed down like a cannibal's and his body guards look like rejects from an exploitation flick BUT isn't that progress? In a weird backwards way, I mean?

That Tombstone is one bad mother.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Tombstone is so badass! I really liked his original appearance, but they added more to him in this show and made him much more awesome! So, I'm really looking foward to him returning in season 2 nad being involved in the "Gang War".

[Web-Head]

They gave Tombstone a Mr. Freeze style revamp. That should be enough incentive to love the character.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Also, Tombstones' voice kicks ass. :up:

[CaptainStacy]

That Tombstone is one bad mother.


Shut your mouth! :woot: :cwink:

[Spider-ManHero12]

I loved how Tombstone never seemed to fear anybody. :word::up:

[Webhead2006]

Yea i am liking what they have done with him.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i am liking what they have done with him.

[Ratcrawler]

According to Wiki, he was originally voiced by Kieth David but then they got The Batman's Joker, Kevin Michael Richardson to do it. So if you ever need a guy to voice albino...

Shut your mouth!

I'm just talkin' about Tombstone.

[Webhead2006]

yea big man aka ssm tombstone that we are lead to believe(i would like if it ends up being foswell down the road as big man) Greg said in an interview or that podcast kieth was hired in episode one but then was cast in some theater thing in nyc and wasnt able to go back and forth from nyc to la were they record the show so he was replaced.

[Ratcrawler]

Which is kind of a shame, but Kevin's a dead ringer for his voice.

[Webhead2006]

Yea he has it down pretty good, i didnt really notice any difference from episode 1 and then 4.

[Spiderine]

I just love when they take a minor character from the comics and transform him or her into a major role that fits into the overall scheme of the show. It was a brilliant way to use this character. No Kingpin, no problem. Tombstone was the next best thing and they have made me a fan of him.

[Don Yoyo]

I loved how Tombstone never seemed to fear anybody.

A man who can take three blades in the back as if it was a scratch and who is such a skilled figther and such a wealthy man surely must have a lot of confidence :woot:

[CaptainStacy]

I'm just talkin' about Tombstone.

Then we can dig it! :woot:

[Ratcrawler]

He's a complicated man.

A man who can take three blades in the back as if it was a scratch and who is such a skilled figther and such a wealthy man surely must have a lot of confidence :woot:

I wonder how he does with the ladies...

[Don Yoyo]

You could think that his appearance (the theeth especially) might give him problems with the ladies... even I would be only mildly surprised if Tombstone turned out to be married with one or two children :woot: With them visiting him one day when Peter (as Spider-Man) is in his office with the usual "threats" :cwink:




Another thing : what do you think Tombstone was working on when Spidey came in his office in Nature VS Nurture? Some anti-Spidey project perharps? Or is he writing something about him? Or is it attempting to get the rights for the exploitation of Spider-Man's image, like the Kingpin had in Ultimate Spider-Man?

[CaptainStacy]

You know what? If Sam Raimi decides he wants to introduce a crime boss into the movie series, and what with Kingpin tied up at FOX, i can see Tombstone stepping in quite nicely, especially with his ties to the Joe Robertson character...

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea he has it down pretty good, i didnt really notice any difference from episode 1 and then 4. Agreed, heck, I thought it was the same guy.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i didnt know it was different to someone pointed out it was different. Yea i to wonder what tombstone was working on when spidey came in during the season finale.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea i didnt know it was different to someone pointed out it was different. Yea i to wonder what tombstone was working on when spidey came in during the season finale. I wonder about that as well. I guess we'll find out not too long from now.

[Ratcrawler]

I'd love to see season 2 have Tomby deal with sPidey the way Ultimate Kingpin did.

You know what? If Sam Raimi decides he wants to introduce a crime boss into the movie series, and what with Kingpin tied up at FOX, i can see Tombstone stepping in quite nicely, especially with his ties to the Joe Robertson character...

He might get labeled as the most offensive supervillain ever but hell yeah! :D

[Spider-ManHero12]

In the Gang War, I wonder how much butt Tombstone will kick? If you ask me, I think he'll be taking on alot of guys, depending on which Gang War they're using.

[Don Yoyo]

Hum, if Tombstone has to kick butts himself, then it should mean that things are going very badly for him :huh: If Gang War there is and that Tombstone's concurrent has super-powered people under him, the Big Man will need more firepower than what he already has... I definitely think that Ox and Fancy Dan are gonna receive some improvements in season 2, just like their leader, Montana. Preferably something to increase even more their "natural" skills and abilities : agility, speed and reflexes for Fancy Dan, brute strength and endurance for Ox.

[Webhead2006]

Its possible or gang war will be about other mob characters rising to more power. We will just have to wait and see where they go with the gang war storyline they are going to do.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Its possible or gang war will be about other mob characters rising to more power. We will just have to wait and see where they go with the gang war storyline they are going to do. Indeed, and if they do go with a fighting Gang War, then I think it would be so cool to have Ock, Hammerhead, and Big Man involved. Ock and Hammerhead had quite a few confrontations in the comics.

[Ratcrawler]

I am salivating in anticipation over season 2.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I am salivating in anticipation over season 2. Lol, me to. :woot::spidey:

[Spider-ManHero12]

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[Webhead2006]

Yea i hope the it all works out good and maybe we get to see other mob characters like silvermane, the owl(some one mentioned before), and a few others. I dont know to many mob characters in the spidey corner of marvel u so i dont know who else would/could likely be showing up.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yea i hope the it all works out good and maybe we get to see other mob characters like silvermane, the owl(some one mentioned before), and a few others. I dont know to many mob characters in the spidey corner of marvel u so i dont know who else would/could likely be showing up. I really think there's a great chance that Silvermane not only will be in the show, but als obe in the Gang War. I could be wrong though.

[Webhead2006]

Yea we will probably know soon enough on what other characters are due to show up in season 2.

[Spider-ManHero12]

As I have said, I really wonder if Rose will make an appearance in this show. Maybe they can have a story involving him and Tombstone.

[Webhead2006]

Yea my guess if they have the rose they probably cant use the richard fisk version cause kingpin is offlimits and i would think then his whole family would be too. So they likely would have to use one of the other people who used the rose identity.

[Jick09]

That Tombstone is one bad mother.
Tombstone was a character that I hated. a lot, because of the 90's series. I just couldn't see that character on screen.
but SSM made it for me. I love every frickin second with Tombstone in it. his experience, his acts, his badasseness and specially his voice. it all makes him so damn awesome.
Spectacular Tombstone is one of my favorites, now.

[Spider-Man '92]

I liked the moments when Spidey and Tombstone were (in a sense) on the same side, like when they faced the Green Goblin. It added an interesting character to him in general, and all in all, he's just plain cool!

[Spider-ManHero12]

Tombstone was a character that I hated. a lot, because of the 90's series. I just couldn't see that character on screen.
but SSM made it for me. I love every frickin second with Tombstone in it. his experience, his acts, his badasseness and specially his voice. it all makes him so damn awesome.
Spectacular Tombstone is one of my favorites, now. That right there is a great reaction. This show causes people that feel negative about something and turn it into a positive. Though, I always l0oved Tombstone in TAS, but not as much as in this show.

[Spider-Man '92]

Tombstone was a character that I hated. a lot, because of the 90's series. I just couldn't see that character on screen.
but SSM made it for me. I love every frickin second with Tombstone in it. his experience, his acts, his badasseness and specially his voice. it all makes him so damn awesome.
Spectacular Tombstone is one of my favorites, now.
I agree. I did like him in the 90's series, but he has a lot more better character now. It's also cool that they made him literally the "Big Man". In the 90's, Kingpin was always the big man character, I like this change, it's different, and it feels good. I still hope Kingpin comes in somewhere, it'd work for the whole "gang war" idea.

[Webhead2006]

kingpin isnt big man he is just a big guy.

[Spider-ManHero12]

kingpin isnt big man he is just a big guy. Indeed, he basically has nothing to do with the Big Man.

[Spider-Man '92]

I never said he was the "Big man", but he's the kind of character that would be the big man, y'know? The crime lord, that sort of thing. That's why he could make a good antagonist for Tombstone.

[R-Taco]

Another thing : what do you think Tombstone was working on when Spidey came in his office in Nature VS Nurture? Some anti-Spidey project perharps? Or is he writing something about him? Or is it attempting to get the rights for the exploitation of Spider-Man's image, like the Kingpin had in Ultimate Spider-Man?

He was vandalizing Spidey's Wikipedia article. :cwink:

[Parquagh]

He was vandalizing Spidey's Wikipedia article. :cwink:
lol... Tombstone you evil mastermind!

[Webhead2006]

ah ok man, i was thinking you were one of the many people who think big man and kingpin are the same character and are not two different characters like they are.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I never said he was the "Big man", but he's the kind of character that would be the big man, y'know? The crime lord, that sort of thing. That's why he could make a good antagonist for Tombstone. Oh, sorry about that. Now I see what you mean.

[Spider-Man '92]

ah ok man, i was thinking you were one of the many people who think big man and kingpin are the same character and are not two different characters like they are.
No problem. Still, Tombstone is cool, but I have one question (take in mind I've never really followed him in the comics) but what's with Tombstone being grey? I know the sense out of it (grey like a tombstone) but wasn't he always normal?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Speaking of Tombstone, I really like how he can defend himself when he;s about to get hurt. He's not afraid to kick some butt.

[Don Yoyo]

No problem. Still, Tombstone is cool, but I have one question (take in mind I've never really followed him in the comics) but what's with Tombstone being grey? I know the sense out of it (grey like a tombstone) but wasn't he always normal?

In the comics, I understood he is a black albinos, so a really milk-white skin. And the pointed teeth, he made them himself to scare his foes (he was working as an enforcer).

In SSM, I suspect he is a mutant, with a mixture of mutations both "real" (being an albinos) and "comic" (super strength, speed and reflexes, with an uncanny resistance to physical damage... and the pointed teeth).

Speaking of Tombstone, I really like how he can defend himself when he;s about to get hurt. He's not afraid to kick some butt.

I think that's why Hammerhead respects him so much, because he is a leader but can still defend himself if the need arises (I think any of his foes would think that being the head, all wealthy and out of the field, Tombstone is weak... big mistake! Just the one Spider-Man did).

[Webhead2006]

yea we dont know the reason why he is for ssm yet.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think that's why Hammerhead respects him so much, because he is a leader but can still defend himself if the need arises (I think any of his foes would think that being the head, all wealthy and out of the field, Tombstone is weak... big mistake! Just the one Spider-Man did). Exactly my thoughts. :up:

[Spider-Man '92]

Didn't Hammerhead say that's why he respects him? Because of his power?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Didn't Hammerhead say that's why he respects him? Because of his power? I think he did, but I'm not 100% sure. :up:

[Spiderine]

I think Hammerhead said That's why they call him Tombstone because if you cross him thats all that's left. Or something to that extent.

[Webhead2006]

no i think he just said why he respects him when he was with gobby.

[vinny2]

I'm going by memory, so forgive if I mess up a few lines, but the conversation went mostly like this:

Hammerhead: Goblin. I know you're out there.
Goblin: Out there! In here! Everywhere! This will soon be my town Hammy and I could use a good right-hand flattop.
Hammerhead: Not gonna happen. You think I'm afraid of some goofball dressed for Halloween? Can't be afraid of whatcha don't respect and I've only respect one man enough to fear.
Goblin: The Big Man! Alias: L. Thompson Lincoln! See I've already peeked under his mask.
Hammerhead: Lincoln is the mask! The Big Man's Tombstone cause that's all that's left when you cross him.
Goblin: Well if that's true, then a man like you must surely have acquired...LIFE INSURANCE!

[Spider-Man '92]

I'm going by memory, so forgive if I mess up a few lines, but the conversation went mostly like this:

Hammerhead: Goblin. I know you're out there.
Goblin: Out there! In here! Everywhere! This will soon be my town Hammy and I could use a good right-hand flattop.
Hammerhead: Not gonna happen. You think I'm afraid of some goofball dressed for Halloween? Can't be afraid of whatcha don't respect and I've only respect one man enough to fear.
Goblin: The Big Man! Alias: L. Thompson Lincoln! See I've already peeked under his mask.
Hammerhead: Lincoln is the mask! The Big Man's Tombstone cause that's all that's left when you cross him.
Goblin: Well if that's true, then a man like you must surely have acquired...LIFE INSURANCE!
Wow! I just watched the scene, and aside from a couple words, that is exactly the same!

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm going by memory, so forgive if I mess up a few lines, but the conversation went mostly like this:

Hammerhead: Goblin. I know you're out there.
Goblin: Out there! In here! Everywhere! This will soon be my town Hammy and I could use a good right-hand flattop.
Hammerhead: Not gonna happen. You think I'm afraid of some goofball dressed for Halloween? Can't be afraid of whatcha don't respect and I've only respect one man enough to fear.
Goblin: The Big Man! Alias: L. Thompson Lincoln! See I've already peeked under his mask.
Hammerhead: Lincoln is the mask! The Big Man's Tombstone cause that's all that's left when you cross him.
Goblin: Well if that's true, then a man like you must surely have acquired...LIFE INSURANCE! Nice! It sounds basically just like it. :up:

[Silver Spider]

That right there is a great reaction. This show causes people that feel negative about something and turn it into a positive.
That is so true. I like Electro and Vulture so much more, after watching them on this show.
He was vandalizing Spidey's Wikipedia article. :cwink:
haha:funny:
Someone said that on YouTube. Was that you?

[Spider-ManHero12]

That is so true. I like Electro and Vulture so much more, after watching them on this show. I've always loved Vulture and Electro, but I really love what they added to both Villians in this show. :up:

[GamerSlyRatchet]

So, who bets Hammerhead will, in some way, backstab and betray Tombstone during Gang War?

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I think it's very possible, but Hammerhead doesn't seem mad or anything at Tombstone. However, Hammerhead deciding that he wants to be the big gang boss instead of working for Tombstone is, as I said, something I can see happening.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i believe he will betray him too.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can't wait to see more of Hammerhead and Tombsone interacting with each other in season 2. I loved it in season 1. :up:

[Mistah K88]

So, who bets Hammerhead will, in some way, backstab and betray Tombstone during Gang War?
Wow, you're right on it... I mean I wouldn't have expected it since Tombstone risked his life to save Hammerhead (or atleast the portable jump drive that has evidence of what he really does that Gobby made up)

I must retread what has been said already, it is so nice to see a black villain who is more than some hired muscle. Most of Spidey's rouges are Caucasian males (in the 60's it would have probably have been a bad idea to make them anything else, so does make sense). A lot of Static's villains were black, but a majority of them were just superpowered street thugs. So it is exciting to see such a change in status of villainy. Plus, his Mr. Freeze style revamp is so good I was hoping that they would play against the comics for once and Foswell wasn't the Big Man. It's not everyday you see an black albino crime boss. By the looks of it Molten Man (Mark Allan [Raxton in comics]) is going to be Puerto Rican. I really want to see how Mr. Lincoln's empire will crumble with the upcomming gang war. I loved everytime he appeared on screen...his first confrontation with Spidey was so cool...Lonnie's kind of quick...
Once again, sorry to bump such an old topic...

[Ratcrawler]

Don't worry, I kinda missed this topic. =) Here's hoping he gets more good lines this season.