8.01 - Odyssey - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[boydston_14]

From K-Site:
UPDATED 6/23/08: Title Posted. Please do not repost this on other websites without a link to KryptonSite.com.

I'm liking the sounds of this.

[Superman1980]

Meaning of Odyssey from www.dictionary.com :

1. (italics) an epic poem attributed to Homer, describing Odysseus's adventures in his ten-year attempt to return home to Ithaca after the Trojan War.
2. (often lowercase) a long series of wanderings or adventures, esp. when filled with notable experiences, hardships, etc.

or

1. An extended adventurous voyage or trip.
2. An intellectual or spiritual quest: an odyssey of discovery.

Is Clark going on a day trip or something lol :woot::woot:

[Webhead2006]

Sounds like a cool title. Cant wait to see some spoilers come out for the episode. Hopefully they wont be dropping the whole lex controlling the traveler(clark). They could easily have clark under lex's control and chloe and ollie have to break the link. There is some easy ways they can probably get around without having lex around for the controlling the traveler plot to continue. but they are likely going to drop it now since michael is gone.

[b24]

i m expetcing time jump

maybe clark begins his trainning going by the tittle maybe he tarvles some where

can't wait

[Webhead2006]

We will see soon.

[Mikelus]

Lex is gone, missing (Tess will be in charge), so don't expect to see him. We need more info, a title means nothing, "Hero" sounded good (as a title), till then.....

[b24]

plz don'et remind Hero :(

but i think this sesaon primere will be very clark opriented (unlike last seseaon primere where he had to go against famous villians like zod, Bizarro)

also tittles always have to do something with main story of episode

[SpideyVille]

Definitely sounds like some kind of long journey back home. With that in mind, I'm guessing Clark won't have powers since the journey back home from the fortress would be quick. But this sounds like it will be more like Zod where Clark spent most of the episode trying to get out of the Phantom Zone.

[flash13]

i'm hoping we will by some miracle get Bruce Wayne this season

[PJBoy]

^ I think it is impossible!

[Superman1980]

i'm hoping we will by some miracle get Bruce Wayne this season

Miracle or no miracle, there's no point even mentioning Bruce Wayne because he's NEVER going to appear in Smallville. The best we could ever hope for is a mention of his name, the person will never show up

[Prison Mike]

what's the premiere date?

[Superman1980]

what's the premiere date?

Probably the 18th or 25th September going off previous seasons

[PJBoy]

I think so, maybe we will get a preview in August or even at the Comic Con next month.

[Superman1980]

Hopefully the 18th so there's one less week to wait :woot:

[Zorex]

It'd be swell if they had a thing or two to show at SDCC. Panels are cool, but folks yakking, as opposed to images playing, ranks lower on my priority list.

This title sounds cool, but SVille's had cool titles with episodes that don't quite live up.

[b24]

i think SV's primere has been decent

maybe because i get new episode after 3 months that's why i den up liking all sesaon primer of SV

but i get the feeling sesaon8's primere will be quite step up point for clark Maybe whole stpory will be about clark finally accepting who he is

and the remainning sesaon clark will try to find way to bring FOS back, find out about what hapenned to lex, take interset in journalism(they hinted that in Arctic)

and why do i think they wanna do "the motrocyle diaries" SV way maybe during his journmey calrk meet severall people on his way back home and how he relaizes he could do more with his powers

[b24]

and gotta give credit writesr to come up with one word tittle for whole 8 years

where do they look for tittlaes, disctionary, thesauros, or they make up theiw own tittle

i wish they can put that much effort in episodes like feirce, hero

[Eddie Brock]

plz don'et remind Hero :(

but i think this sesaon primere will be very clark opriented (unlike last seseaon primere where he had to go against famous villians like zod, Bizarro)

also tittles always have to do something with main story of episode
Of course it's going to be Clark-oriented. Who the Hell else is left? :dry:

[b24]

^^^ LANA she will never go away

[Eddie Brock]

Oh, I almost forgot about Bloome-sday. They can always center an episode around that splendid concept.

[b24]

some intresting infro from wikipedia

The Odyssey (Greek: Οδύσσεια or Odússeia) is one of two major ancient Greek epic poems attributed to Homer. The poem was probably written near the end of the eighth century BC, somewhere along the Greek-controlled western Turkey seaside, Ionia.[1] The poem is, in part, a sequel to Homer's Iliad and mainly centers on the Greek hero Odysseus (or Ulysses, as he was known in Roman myths) and his long journey home to Ithaca following the fall of Troy.

It takes Odysseus ten years to reach Ithaca after the ten-year Trojan War.[2] During this absence, his son Telemachus and wife Penelope must deal with a group of unruly suitors, called Proci, to compete for Penelope's hand in marriage, since most have assumed that Odysseus has died.

The poem is fundamental to the modern Western canon and is indeed the second—the Iliad is the first—extant work of Western literature. It continues to be read in Homeric Greek and translated into modern languages around the world. The original poem was composed in an oral tradition by an aoidos perhaps a rhapsode, and was intended more to be sung than read.[3] The details of the ancient oral performance, and the story's conversion to a written work inspire continual debate among scholars. The Odyssey was written in a regionless poetic dialect of Greek and comprises 12,110 lines of dactylic hexameter. Among the most impressive elements of the text are its strikingly modern non-linear plot, and the fact that events are shown to depend as much on the choices made by women and serfs as on the actions of fighting men. In the English language as well as many others, the word odyssey has come to refer to an epic voyage.

____

story fits quite well with smallville

[Prison Mike]

^^^ LANA she will never go away

she'll only be back for a handful of episodes. She'll be gone for the majority of the season.

[b24]

Oh, I almost forgot about Bloome-sday. They can always center an episode around that splendid concept.

i don't think he will have majort part to play in sesaon primere because they are new characters

[b24]

i can see clark odesseyious

Lana as godess Claypton- who promised eternal bliss to to odeyssious (irony is that this relationship mirrors clana) and odeyssious

Gods- Jorel

Penelope - i m not sure who that would be Lois???

odeesyious journey= clark's jouney

anyone else see the similarities

[herolee10]

Forum user "Dontcha" from Kryptonsite posted a rather interesting and great theory I might add concerning the title for this episode:


"The Oddysey, we read it at college in Class Civ class

focuses around Odysseus, The book starts with Odysseus deciding to break free after 7 years of being kept in limbo by the beautful goddess Calypso , its a limbo of eternal nightmare and of eternal bliss. This eternal nightmare and eternal bliss complex held him back for seven long years because it created an internal struggle where he couldnt decide to stay or leave. He became weak and stagnent for 7 years untill..he decided to break away, get home and take his rightful place as king beside his queen Penelope..she is driving force throughout the entire story, the thing that makes him long for it all the more.

wanna know what else?


in the end, Athena disguizes him as a weak common beggar to infiltrate his castle which is under threat by the suitors

these suitors are a DIRECT threat to PENELOPE. So he gets in there..pulls of that damn disguize and kicks some ROYAL ASS...


My theory

Calypso the beautiful goddess who kept Odysseus stagnent for 7 damn years = Lana

Circe the witch , appears to be an enemy but becomes an ally, also threatens his return home to Penelope = Tess?

Athena, the goddess of Wisdom who helps Odysseus throughout his quest, she is always loyal and true = Chloe

Penelope, his queen and soulmate = Lois

Also important to note that the one he wishes to have and be with rather than anyone else is Penelope..Calypso loved him, Circe Loved him, Athena loved him, all wanted to be his but Odysseus says to Penelope at the very that she is the one he wants.

also this quote just for fun Odysseus about Penelope: "She will soon come to look at me in a different light. At the moment because I am dirty and in rags she undervalues me and wont admit that I am Odysseus"




I also get the feeling this isnt just an episode title for that episode alone..its setting the theme for the rest of the season"

Like others on the board have said, I wonder if the writers have looked this deeply into their title's meanings for planning the theme and story for their episodes.

[b24]

i m sure odyessey has to do something with clark's journey

journey from where that i m not sure

mots probably they will bring similarities from homer's odyessy in the episode hence the tittle

[Mikelus]

Well, of course is about Clark's journey, nothing new! ;)

In the context of the premiere, it should be how Clark recovers and gets back home from what happened on "Arctic", where he was weakened by the traveler device when the FOS collapsed. Also, Oliver's past will be explored during the season (his own journey), same with Tess and Davis Bloome. Is "Odyssey time" on Smallville! :hehe:

[Zorex]

If they took the premiere as far as some people are hypothesizing, that would jack my interest up a LOT. Taking after elements of Homer's Odyssey could spell fantastic things for the show.

But here's a thought... What if the premiere were set some years after the S7 finale? Not many, but, say, 7 or less.

[jr24tw]

Calypso the beautiful goddess who kept Odysseus stagnent for 7 damn years = Lana
:whatever:

*snort*

Lana kept Clark stagnent for 7 years? Silly me I thought Clark kept Clark stagnent for 7 years. My bad.

[b24]

^^6 well lana was holding him back

she is like bad omen ruins everone's life with whomever she is inlovled with Jason, Lex , Clark and even Bizarro

[Zorex]

She could maybe be compared to Helen, the beautiful princess who all the guys keep tripping over. And going to war over... that, too. :p

[Prison Mike]

People really need to stop blaming Lana for Clark's problems. Clark is a BDA because of himself not anyone else.

[b24]

^^^ u are fogetting eeven Bizarro became BDP when he spent some with her

see bizarro in Gemini vs him in Persona

but there is no denying Lana has some issues

of course she is hot no doubt but she is emiotnal wreck

[jr24tw]

People really need to stop blaming Lana for Clark's problems. Clark is a BDA because of himself not anyone else.
Thank you. Although I would refrain from using the 3 letter term because it's a sensitive one.

If I remember correctly it was Clark's choice to stay on the farm. He has been fighting his destiny and heritage for 7 years. He is the one that decided not to go out into the world and do something with the great powers he has. He made a lot of wrong choices that he and others paid the consequences for. Don't get me wrong we all make bad choices when young. It's part of growing up. But there has to be an end to it at some point.

In fact from what little I watched of S7 Lana has told him many times he should go out and be great and she didn't want him to stay for her. Because she knows he is meant for something bigger. Also she was the one sacrificing her love and happiness so he could be that person. Yes I know the dear John video letter was crappy but the message was loud and clear. Question is whether or not Clark gets the message through his head. I doubt it will happen anytime soon. Maybe at the end of next Season. But if nothing changes it will be HIS choice. Just like it always has been.

How any of that is Lana's fault really baffles me. I will never understand how people blame her for Clark's decisions. Guy is an adult for crying out loud.

[Serene]

^^^ u are fogetting eeven Bizarro became BDP when he spent some with her

see bizarro in Gemini vs him in Persona

but there is no denying Lana has some issues

of course she is hot no doubt but she is emiotnal wreck

:dry:

*twitch*

[Zorex]

Thank you. Although I would refrain from using the 3 letter term because it's a sensitive one.

If I remember correctly it was Clark's choice to stay on the farm. He has been fighting his destiny and heritage for 7 years. He is the one that decided not to go out into the world and do something with the great powers he has. He made a lot of wrong choices that he and others paid the consequences for. Don't get me wrong we all make bad choices when young. It's part of growing up. But there has to be an end to it at some point.

In fact from what little I watched of S7 Lana has told him many times he should go out and be great and she didn't want him to stay for her. Because she knows he is meant for something bigger. Also she was the one sacrificing her love and happiness so he could be that person. Yes I know the dear John video letter was crappy but the message was loud and clear. Question is whether or not Clark gets the message through his head. I doubt it will happen anytime soon. Maybe at the end of next Season. But if nothing changes it will be HIS choice. Just like it always has been.

How any of that is Lana's fault really baffles me. I will never understand how people blame her for Clark's decisions. Guy is an adult for crying out loud.
Very true. Throughout the seventh season, culminating in that (silly concept but still moving) goodbye video, Lana was there telling him that he should, at the very LEAST, consider the positive impact he could have out and about in the world, away from the farm. It was very big of her to take decisive action, emotionally anguishing action, and remove herself from the equation. I think she did realize that she was contributing to Clark holding himself back, but that's just it... boy was holding himself back.

[b24]

it is all revrse pyschology

i don't belive lana want clark to go out and leave her alone

trust me she knows to play around with words

if she wantde clark to be saviou whe did she evn comeback in Fierce when clark was ready to move on 9he wnet to FOS for his trainning)

[b24]

anyway back to Odessey episode i think episode sounds interesting

i wonder why they chose this tittle

[Mikelus]

The 'blame Lana for everything rant' is getting old, Clark is an ADULT, he is responsible for his actions, Lana is not controlling him. Is just weak to blame other people for what is really your fault, it should not be that hard to understand.

[SpideyVille]

it is all revrse pyschology

i don't belive lana want clark to go out and leave her alone

trust me she knows to play around with words

if she wantde clark to be saviou whe did she evn comeback in Fierce when clark was ready to move on 9he wnet to FOS for his trainning)

Uh... Clark wasn't going to go for his training in Fierce because Jor-El had just told him to stay and keep a careful eye on Kara in the previous episode.:whatever:

And Lana had no plans to stay since she still wanted to be presumed dead because she still had the money she stole from Lex. It was Clark who jumped at the opportunity and told her he'd protect her from everything if she'd stay. All she wanted to do was see Clark for one last time and give him a proper goodbye. But as we saw in the finale, she can't give him a proper goodbye because he'll always try to make her stay. Lana left him the way she did so that the world can benefit since she knows he would never accept his destiny if they were still together.

[RickO'Connell]

If I remember correctly it was Clark's choice to stay on the farm

He also said that

A) He would join Oliver's team after he took care of The Phantom Zones

B) Start his training after he took care of The Phantom Zones

Clark says alot of stuff :o

[b24]

^^^^A)after he took care of phantoms he wnet to FOS to get his trainning but his dday dearest snet him back to bbaby sitt 18 years old Kara

B) i just answered that

[b24]

[quote=SpideyVille007;15100856]Uh...
And Lana had no plans to stay since she still wanted to be presumed dead because she still had the money she stole from Lex. [quote]


are u sure because she is still coming back after her 'good bye ' video

IF she tris to go back with romanticall that would put rest to "lana wants clark to be superman" arguement

i can already see her saying to clark 'oh clark i m so sorry now i want to grow old with u again" i already see this coming in season 8

hopefully clark has moved on showes her the door

[jr24tw]

May I suggest you start using the edit button if you have anything to add to your previous post. Double, triple or more posting...I think that's against the rules? Although I'm not sure about that one.

And could you please read over what you wrote before pushing the post buttom? All the mixed upped letters and weird words make it impossible sometimes to understand what you are trying to say.

Not meaning to offend you or anything. Just a little tip.

[KBX]

I remember DC had a comic book mini-series called Odyssey and it dealt with everyone. What this has to do with Smallville, have absolutely no idea....

[Prison Mike]

it is all revrse pyschology

i don't belive lana want clark to go out and leave her alone

trust me she knows to play around with words

if she wantde clark to be saviou whe did she evn comeback in Fierce when clark was ready to move on 9he wnet to FOS for his trainning)

I don't understand how you can think that. Are you just joking around trying to get a rise out of us? Or do you really believe that there's some conspiracy and Lana is actually using reverse psychology to get with Clark? I think there's a step missing in your flow of logic.

And also, spell check is your friend. :yay:

[Mikelus]

Well, I think b24 is just looking for attention. Hating a fictional character so much is just embarrassing. :o
Clana is over, Lana knew since "Action" what Clark's destiny could be and with just a few appearances next season, she's not going to be involved that much.

[Prison Mike]

^ I know, right? She's only coming back to provide some closure to the fans since she left kind of abruptly last season.

[b24]

Well, I think b24 is just looking for attention. Hating a fictional character so much is just embarrassing. :o
Clana is over, Lana knew since "Action" what Clark's destiny could be and with just a few appearances next season, she's not going to be involved that much.


i know it is fictional charcter but i don't "hate " some tv show character

i m just saying she has became so annoying and her relationship with clark is one of the negative thing about the show

and by the way my hatred towards her nothing compared to other people from another fan board

trust me on that:woot:

[Prison Mike]

i know it is fictional charcter but i don't "hate " some tv show character

i m just saying she has became so annoying and her relationship with clark is one of the negative thing about the show

and by the way my hatred towards her nothing compared to other people from another fan board

trust me on that:woot:

kryptonsite?

[b24]

^^^ Imdb

[Prison Mike]

oh ok. kryptonsite is stupid too (the boards, not the spoilers)

[Webhead2006]

yea i am a poster over at ksite boards and some of guys there are crazy at times.

[boydston_14]

oh ok. kryptonsite is stupid too (the boards, not the spoilers)

Yeah I had an account there for like two days before I realized just how ridiculous people got over there.

[Mikelus]

Sometimes is funny to see how the same posters make the same comments here and at K-site. ;)
Over there is full of shippers, so debates are more emotional.

[b24]

i wonder what lex part is in Odyssey story

maybe hs is suppsed to be posiedon???

[KBX]

this is from K-site.


UPDATED 6/25/08: The new season begins several months after the events of the Season 7 finale.
- Casting is currently underway for "Kat," a young, eager assistant for Tess, who also makes her first appearance in this episode; and "Nikolai," a man who works on a boat with Clark near the Arctic. Roles also now being cast include a Researcher, a Scientist, and a Guard.
- Clark is brought home by some possibly-surprising rescuers.
- Oliver Queen (Justin Hartley) returns in this episode.


http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

Ollie is back already.
Kat, Tess assistant is going to be around a while, maybe?
Kinda disappointed that the new season doesn't start right away from the finale, so I guess we won't find out what happened. But makes sense since Lex is not around. sigh....

[KBX]

So, possibly surprising-rescuers could be the members of the team.... or Bibbo Bibbowski

[KalKai]

Clark is working on a boat near the Arctic? Wow.. lol. That's sounding pretty good to me. I always like it when some type of timeskip is involved.

[KBX]

Is Clark having some memory issues? Please don't tell me he is going to spend most of the season trying to remember his powers.

[Serene]

Clark is working on a boat near the Arctic? Wow.. lol. That's sounding pretty good to me. I always like it when some type of timeskip is involved.

Same here. :)

[Prison Mike]

Is Clark having some memory issues? Please don't tell me he is going to spend most of the season trying to remember his powers.

cough*Heroes did that last season*cough

[SpideyVille]

Is Clark having some memory issues? Please don't tell me he is going to spend most of the season trying to remember his powers.
LMAO, everyone was complaining so much that Lex was going to be the one who ends up with amnesia, yet it would be so ironic if Clark ended up like that.

But I'm still sticking by my original theory where he just doesn't have his powers but still has his memory. After all, much like in the Odyssey, Odysseus had to build a boat to return home, and I don't think he would know where his home is if he had amnesia.

[Mikelus]

There's one big detail, if Clark has his memory (but no powers), he could've called someone for help, since a few months have passed, it seems to me that Clark has amnesia, we'll see.
A lot of fans are happy with the time jump, it was the right thing to do with Lex out of the picture, and adds some mystery to the situation, obviously a few months are enough for Lex to be "lost".

[Prison Mike]

I'll be happy if the entire episode focuses on Clark. Maybe Ollie comes back to help find Clark. Chloe could have called him from jail. lol

[Webhead2006]

i was reading the spoilers over at ksite a little while ago. They seem pretty cool cant wait to see how the episode plays out. Hopefully they picked a good writer/director combo for the episode. I do hope clark doesnt have his memory gone again been done so many times before. I could see no powers/temporary loss of powers happening which could explain why he is still up in the artic for a few months. Cool to hear ollie is indeed going to be in preimere like some rumors a few weeks ago stated he was likely to be showing up in episode 1. Also some folks over at ksite was thinking maybe chloe isnt in regular jail but in a holding place that is lex's and she is being experimented again and ollie has to save her. Or she is just in regular prision and ollie gets her out through regular legal channels. As for who saves/brings clark home i would love if it is mm/martha/ollie-jla'ers but its could be tess.

[Zorex]

Working on a boat, eh? Can't say I saw that one coming... but hey, there's one thing that calls to mind part of Homer's tale. :)

[RickO'Connell]

But I'm still sticking by my original theory where he just doesn't have his powers but still has his memory

Been there done that. But that has never stopped tptb before

[b24]

surprised rescures could be MM

[b24]

don't know where people are getting ideas of amnesia because why would clark is building a boat if he has no idea where he came from and where will he go

like kara in Blue

unless clark like to strannded in a sea with amnesia ???

i think he has temporrary lost his powers because that Orb thing

[Serene]

Working on a boat, eh?

Well... he does have some experience. ;)

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5734/fog6b600sk3.jpg

[Mikelus]

Clark is working in a boat, probably a fishing boat, not building one. If he has his memory, it doesn't make sense to be away from SV for so long and make everybody worried, time will tell.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Almost finished season seven. Had to download it due to E4 only being on ep 5:whatever:

[Zorex]

Well... he does have some experience. ;)

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5734/fog6b600sk3.jpg
Har har! :p

Good picture of him.

[b24]

Clark is working in a boat, probably a fishing boat, not building one. If he has his memory, it doesn't make sense to be away from SV for so long and make everybody worried, time will tell.


he could be powerless

[mellyM]

Clark is working in a boat, probably a fishing boat, not building one. If he has his memory, it doesn't make sense to be away from SV for so long and make everybody worried, time will tell.

If he has no powers how's he getting home from the Artic? its not like he can ring Lois and be like, "um can you come pick me up in the Artic" Maybe there's no cell signal, i don't know, and I don't care because Clark working on a boat sounds kind of hot.

[b24]

TW played fisherman in The Fog

what I would prefer is that clark is not powerless and he is not fuffering from amensai

i rather like to see clark staying with those people helping them and meantime he gets a chance to reccnsider his destiny and where he is heading in life

[Webhead2006]

Yea that would be nice or he is worried if he goes back to smallville/metroplis lex could control him and he doesnt want to hurt his friends and others.

[b24]

maybe he is still under lex's control and lex makes him work on boat for months

sweet plan :)

[Mikelus]

Again, Clark is not going to stay with the locals for months while everybody worries about him back home without letting them know somehow (phone, letter, etc.). Amnesia makes sense, we like it or not.
TPTB could pull a Peter Petrelli (amnesia for several episodes), with the limited budget, don't be surprised if they use the "amnesia plot device" as a way of saving money on SFX, is not a coincidence Clark is not fighting a supervillain this time around like in past premieres "Zod" and "Bizarro". They're spending more money on the casting side already, Oliver, Tess, Davis Bloome, Kat (Tess' assistant)....

[KBX]

Look it at this way. Spoilers say Clark gets a suprised rescuer? If Clark did have his power, he would not need to be rescued. If this "gap" between episodes is months, and no one has heard a word from him, his only excused would be loss of memory. Lana and Chloe would worry if they don't hear from Clark on a daily basis, let alone months.

Basically Chloe calls Ollie. Ollie comes to town, decides to stay. Ollie calls Authur(Swims in ocean) or Bart(Super-speed) to find him.

[Webhead2006]

Yea we hate the whole no memory thing with sv but its likely what we are going to get. I agree with the budget issue for season 8 we could end up clark not having/using powers besides like super speed/strength which are the more cheaper ones i believe. Now it would be wicked if its any of the league that finds him but its likely going to end up being tess and she get all super curious about mr kent like lexie was and so clark is on her radar.

[MAN O STEEL]

hmmm Clark is found by a "SURPRISED" rescuer in the "ARCTIC". he he sounds like Captain America to me :P. I know that's a marvel character but still it would be cool.

[RickO'Connell]

hmmm Clark is found by a "SURPRISED" rescuer in the "ARCTIC"

Ollie's first scene will be rescuing Clark thanks to a tip from Chloe

Watch this space

[mellyM]

Again, Clark is not going to stay with the locals for months while everybody worries about him back home without letting them know somehow (phone, letter, etc.). Amnesia makes sense, we like it or not.
TPTB could pull a Peter Petrelli (amnesia for several episodes), with the limited budget, don't be surprised if they use the "amnesia plot device" as a way of saving money on SFX, is not a coincidence Clark is not fighting a supervillain this time around like in past premieres "Zod" and "Bizarro". They're spending more money on the casting side already, Oliver, Tess, Davis Bloome, Kat (Tess' assistant)....

Oh please no, i stopped watching Heroes because of that nonsense. Clark doesn't have amnesia, i'm not really understanding why you want him to, and where did it say he'd been gone for months, where there spoilers somewhere else?

[Prison Mike]

Oh please no, i stopped watching Heroes because of that nonsense. Clark doesn't have amnesia, i'm not really understanding why you want him to, and where did it say he'd been gone for months, where there spoilers somewhere else?


UPDATED 6/25/08: The new season begins several months after the events of the Season 7 finale.
- Casting is currently underway for "Kat," a young, eager assistant for Tess, who also makes her first appearance in this episode; and "Nikolai," a man who works on a boat with Clark near the Arctic. Roles also now being cast include a Researcher, a Scientist, and a Guard.
- Clark is brought home by some possibly-surprising rescuers.
- Oliver Queen (Justin Hartley) returns in this episode.

Source: Kryptonsite


It says months has passed between season 7 and 8. So Clark is probably working on a boat during that time. Amnesia makes sense because I can't understand why Clark would choose to work there voluntarily if he had his memory. If he doesn't have amnesia, then maybe he is powerless and needs to earn money to get back home?

[Webhead2006]

Yea the running theories are since its going to be a few months since finale its logical that he either doesnt have him memories and his powers are gone temporarly, or he just lost powers and has no way to get back to SV for a time being. There isnt enough spoilers to give us a better picture on what is happening. Hopefully they wont play the lost of memories ploy once again. Now it would be nice if its just lost of powers and maybe a fear that if he goes back to SV lex will control him and would hurt the ones he cares about. Also on a board i think ksite ones there was someone who came out with the idea what if the orb thing doesnt control clark like we thought but it was a way to either force jor-el's training onto clark or what if the orb caused clark to be confided to a small area of the artic and he cant leave.

[Ultimate_Superman]

IMO they need to come up with something new. They done the whole feels like he can't come home again in season 3, then they did the whole lost memory thing in season 4 then they did the whole lost powers thing in season 5. What they should do is have Clark just traveling seeing why the world needs Superman or something along those lines. Let him help out the world now instead of just SV. Do something new and unexpected and write him to act like Superman for once.

[mellyM]

It says months has passed between season 7 and 8. So Clark is probably working on a boat during that time. Amnesia makes sense because I can't understand why Clark would choose to work there voluntarily if he had his memory. If he doesn't have amnesia, then maybe he is powerless and needs to earn money to get back home?

I can't read I suppose:) I think he's just powerless and its probably near impossible to get out of there so maybe he's working on ship thats headed back to the states, Something happened to him in the fortress because he couldn't move....i guess we;ll see though in a couple of months.

[Webhead2006]

IMO they need to come up with something new. They done the whole feels like he can't come home again in season 3, then they did the whole lost memory thing in season 4 then they did the whole lost powers thing in season 5. What they should do is have Clark just traveling seeing why the world needs Superman or something along those lines. Let him help out the world now instead of just SV. Do something new and unexpected and write him to act like Superman for once.
That would be nice. But right now we dont know for sure if there is lost of powers/memory yet, but it is the likely thing since they love to do the same things again and again.

[Prison Mike]

I will say, though, the writers usually bring their A-game when it comes to the season premieres. Whether they will use the old amnesia/power loss trick again remains uncertain but the episode will probably be pretty good, IMO.

[Mikelus]

Some people forget that SV loves recycling plots, triangles, angsty soap....

[Lunar_Wolf]

IMO they need to come up with something new. They done the whole feels like he can't come home again in season 3, then they did the whole lost memory thing in season 4 then they did the whole lost powers thing in season 5. What they should do is have Clark just traveling seeing why the world needs Superman or something along those lines. Let him help out the world now instead of just SV. Do something new and unexpected and write him to act like Superman for once.
I hope this is true, but I'd doubt it. It kinda gets on my nerves abit how every single person knows Clark but begins his destiny but he seems to be holding back. I want Clark to unleash himself.

Is this the last season?

[Mikelus]

Is this the last season?

Is not official yet, but it could be, Allison Mack said so a couple of weeks ago. Maybe at the San Diego Comic Con the producers will tell us, they should be present (to be confirmed).

[Webhead2006]

Yea alot of us fans believe it is the final season. The current president of cw said when they did show schedules the other month she wants another season after 8th. But it isnt likely to happen. So hopefully they write the season so it is the end so it wraps things up.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Yea alot of us fans believe it is the final season. The current president of cw said when they did show schedules the other month she wants another season after 8th. But it isnt likely to happen. So hopefully they write the season so it is the end so it wraps things up.

Is not official yet, but it could be, Allison Mack said so a couple of weeks ago. Maybe at the San Diego Comic Con the producers will tell us, they should be present (to be confirmed).
If this is the last season, they better make it the best and go out with a bang.

[Cmill216]

I'm a pretty optimistic guy. And I'd like for this to be the best season of the show.

But I have a hard time believing that will happen when two of the main cogs that made the show work in the first place are all but gone.

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

It would be nice if he goes to super speed out of there and sees these people need some kind of help and he stays there to help out

[RickO'Connell]

It would be nice if he goes to super speed out of there and sees these people need some kind of help and he stays there to help out

I don't think these writers think that way. They like the drama of him being powerless

[Webhead2006]

Yea powerless/memory loss is what is the likely idea. What if since he is up in the artic its during the time when its dark 24hrs a day for a few months. and if he doesnt have his powers or was weakened by the orb thing his powers cant fully recharge with no sun.

[PJBoy]

I'm actually still wondering how they will make it right! After all last season said that Lex would control Clark, I just don't get it, how will they make the sense? Amnesia is completly insane!

[mellyM]

whats insane is going on about something when no one even knows its happening (amnesia) and there's no indication that it will:) just saying.

[PJBoy]

I know, I was just telling out my point.

[KBX]

K-site

UPDATED 6/27/08: The "Researcher," "Scientist," and "Guard" roles are involved with Chloe's storyline.
- When Clark returns to Metropolis, he'll have a big surprise for Lois.


Directed By: Kevin Fair

Well...

1. Im glad Chloe is doing something that doesn't involve Clark.
2. I think the puts to rest how long he will be gone, and the "amnesia" problem
3. We all now Clark's "big surprise" for Lois should be.
4. Hell I like the Clark/Lois actually have a scene together!

[Prison Mike]

so I guess it's pretty certain that Ollie rescues Clarks and they return to Metropolis and see Lois. I'm interested in how Ollie and Lois will interact with each other since Ollie is now a series regular. I wonder if he'll be in all 22 episodes or just 13 like Lois and Jimmy.

[Webhead2006]

I hope the director does a good job he for smallville only has done one episode which was siren this past season, i thought it was a good episode and i hope he does a good jon for preimere. I hope we get to know who the writer is soon hopefully they picked a good one. I wonder what the surprise for lois is? And with the guard/scienist roles many think chloe is actually at a lab/33.1 place and not jail.

[Prison Mike]

I hope the director does a good job he for smallville only has done one episode which was siren this past season, i thought it was a good episode and i hope he does a good jon for preimere. I hope we get to know who the writer is soon hopefully they picked a good one. I wonder what the surprise for lois is? And with the guard/scienist roles many think chloe is actually at a lab/33.1 place and not jail.

I think the surprise is that Ollie is back. Clark probably brings him to the DP when he goes back to Metropolis.

[Mikelus]

I don't think seeing Oliver (again!) would be a surprise for Lois, she saw him in "Siren", he's in and out Metropolis a lot. It could be that Clark completed the DP application Lois gave him, that would be a nice surprise for Lois (and the fans of course!).

[04nbod]

I'm starting the campaign for topless Ollie and Clark. I need an incentive to download these episodes

[Webhead2006]

Hey guys did any of you see the crazy rumors/spoilers smallville wiki says for ep 1/season 8. lol its a good read but most likely just crazy speculation.

http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Season_8
- Clark begins to relize that he has feelings for Lois and they share a kiss near the beginning of the season.

-Oliver and Chloe will have abrief relationship (possibly because Oliver wants to get back at Clark).

-Clark will be infected by Silver Kryptonite again this season.

-Lana will return to Smallville, but won't tell Clark.

-Kara will make at least one appearnce but won't be a series regular.

-We will see a dark side to Oliver this season.

-A deep secret will be uncovered about Oliver that puts his superhero acts into perspective.

-Tom has asid he's willing to do another season but that will be it.

-Clark tells Lois he is the new intern at the DP

-The JL rescues Clark, but he has no memories of his previous life, or powers.

- Clark is attracted to Lois when he returns to Metropolis, she will be dismissive after a bit.

I was just reading on others sites that all these silly rumors smallville wikia had were removed from their site. haha pretty good rumors i do have to say and some would be neat to see but we all pretty much know its just speculation and all that.

[04nbod]

ahh..amnesia. Smallville's favourite plot device!

[Webhead2006]

yea it is their most favorite plot device but we still dont know for sure if he is missing memory and powers or just powers and all that.

[Mikelus]

Those rumors are not reliable, rather wait for a more serious source. And when Tom Welling said he's willing to do one more season? It could be BS, someone took the "official" spoilers, speculated some more and there you go.

[The Incredible Hulk]

those "rumors" seem suspect. It's still June, they likely don't have more than 2 or 3 scripts together for next season yet.

[Prison Mike]

yeah, those rumors are probably b.s. I mean, why would Ollie want to get back at Clark? What has Clark ever done to him?

[Eddie Brock]

yeah, those rumors are probably b.s. I mean, why would Ollie want to get back at Clark? What has Clark ever done to him?
If the rumors are to be believed, Clark's moving in on Oliver's girl (Lois).

[KalKai]

Hello? Anyone can edit anything on wiki, but anyway they've been removed.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i was just reading about it being removed too. I knew they were just rumors and speculation they were a nice read and some of those would have been sweet to see happen. Lets hope the season is good.

[Brainiac 8]

http://ninjapants.org/files/(LJ)WIkipedia%20He-Man.jpg

[Prison Mike]

Today's News: Our Take
Smallville Scoop: The Justice League Returns

Get ready for the return of the Justice League. When Smallville comes back in September, the Super Friends reunite to search for Clark Kent, who went missing in May's season finale after tussling with Lex Luthor at the Fortress of Solitude.

Smallville creators Al Gough and Miles Millar have departed (and are currently producing the Hannah Montana movie), so four of the series' longtime producers have taken over for Season 8. "Luckily [Al and Miles'] voices are still talking to us in our heads as we're breaking stories," says Kelly Souders, who is running the show with Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer. "Their visions come to us all the time, so I think they did a great job of preparing us for this day."

One of the first things the new quartet did was lock in Justin Hartley for at least 12 episodes as Green Arrow/Oliver Queen, a fan favorite who appeared frequently in Season 6 and once last season. He'll start this new chapter by gathering Aquaman and Black Canary to rescue Clark. Alan Ritchson and Alaina Huffman will reprise their roles, as will Phil Morris, whose Martian Manhunter also appears in the opener, titled "Odyssey."

This season's theme is "double identities," Souders says. "It's about the Superman identity emerging as Clark Kent tries to maintain a normal life — or the appearance of a normal life." To that end, he takes a job at the Daily Planet, right across the desk from Lois Lane (Erica Durance).

"The camaraderie as they work side-by-side that everyone loves from the DC Comics and all the Superman lore is going to come to fruition this year," Souders says. "The two of them are thrown together in some unfortunate situations for Clark. She becomes a little bit of an obstacle to him saving the world, when he's on a deadline." — Rich Sands

SOURCE: TV GUIDE

[Brainiac 8]

That....sounds really good actually. :up:

I actually would love to have Bart back also for at least an episode.

Clark/Lois/Daily Planet stuff makes the fanboy in me squee with happiness. :D

[Prison Mike]

That....sounds really good actually. :up:

I actually would love to have Bart back also for at least an episode.

Clark/Lois/Daily Planet stuff makes the fanboy in me squee with happiness. :D

me too. They have to be doing this anyway, though, if it's the last season.

[Brainiac 8]

me too. They have to be doing this anyway, though, if it's the last season.


haha, love the avvy k....the office is awesome.

Yea, it's nice to have the confirmation that certain aspects of the show will be moving forward.

Wait till Kal reads this. :up:

[The Incredible Hulk]

those spoilers actually sound pretty decent. I wonder if Flash and Cyborg will be back as well?

And I'm strangely OK with the Lois and Clark thing at the Daily Planet. That's sort of a different spin on things to have him at the Planet before he completely becomes Superman, but I've always surmized that this Clark wont be locked away in the Fortress training for a decade, he's doing more of the "on-the-job training" thing...

[Brainiac 8]

^ Which I seem to like more actually. I think that this season will benefit from Miles and Gough being gone actually. Give the veteran writers some room to breathe and do maybe some things they wanted to do but TPTB wouldn't let them at the time.

Who knows, in most cases I really enjoy this "Ultimate" version of Superman. :up:

[Prison Mike]

haha, love the avvy k....the office is awesome.

Yea, it's nice to have the confirmation that certain aspects of the show will be moving forward.

Wait till Kal reads this. :up:

thanks, yeah I love The Office too.

I'm glad the show is moving forward. I don't want them to rush things in the last couple of episodes of the series. The only thing that seems odd is Clark's sudden interest in journalism. He brushed Lois off when she gave him the application in the season finale and all of a sudden, a couple months later, he's taking the job? Those few months lost must be a real eye-opener for Clark. lol

those spoilers actually sound pretty decent. I wonder if Flash and Cyborg will be back as well?

And I'm strangely OK with the Lois and Clark thing at the Daily Planet. That's sort of a different spin on things to have him at the Planet before he completely becomes Superman, but I've always surmized that this Clark wont be locked away in the Fortress training for a decade, he's doing more of the "on-the-job training" thing...

I agree. I like this alternate take. It's also less coincidental when Superman appears for the first time just as Clark takes the DP job. This way, Clark has the job a while before Superman even comes into the picture. And the "on-the-job training" idea is much better than getting stuck in the FOS for 12 years cramming all of the universe secrets into his head.

[zerohour films]

those spoilers actually sound pretty decent. I wonder if Flash and Cyborg will be back as well?

And I'm strangely OK with the Lois and Clark thing at the Daily Planet. That's sort of a different spin on things to have him at the Planet before he completely becomes Superman, but I've always surmized that this Clark wont be locked away in the Fortress training for a decade, he's doing more of the "on-the-job training" thing...


Which I kind of like better in a way. I believe if I remember my comics well enough the whole training in the fortress was only really done in the old movies. While being an interesting idea, I prefer the Clark travelling the world and learning journalism while saving people in secret.

I just don't see a need for him to leave the world for 10-12 years for training.

As far as the TV guide article---
More Lois/Clark sounds really good to me this season. Still can't wait to see the explanation Al/Miles have cooked up (and wonder if it will still be used) to explain the difference between Clark and Superman.

[Zorex]

Those new bits sound cool! Especially Morris returning as MM. Can't wait to hear more about this premiere ep.

[Mikelus]

^ Which I seem to like more actually. I think that this season will benefit from Miles and Gough being gone actually. Give the veteran writers some room to breathe and do maybe some things they wanted to do but TPTB wouldn't let them at the time.


I don't think so, the producers on AlMiles influence:

Smallville creators Al Gough and Miles Millar have departed (and are currently producing the Hannah Montana movie), so four of the series' longtime producers have taken over for Season 8. "Luckily [Al and Miles'] voices are still talking to us in our heads as we're breaking stories," says Kelly Souders, who is running the show with Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer. "Their visions come to us all the time, so I think they did a great job of preparing us for this day."


The spoilers are great, showing once again how subjective and negative some people are. Clark is moving forward, more Lois and Clark classic moments, more JL, etc. Maybe S8 will be better after all, time will tell.

[KBX]

Holy *****, I don't think I have ever read better spoilers than that.

You would think Flash(fastest man alive) would be paired with Aquaman(amazing swimmer) to find Clark, but Im not complaining! Maybe the actor just wasn't available...

MM/Phil Morris is back!!!!

[PJBoy]

YEAH!!! MM is back!! \o/

[RickO'Connell]

Maybe Clark will move to Metropolis & have Ben look after the farm :wow: Our boy might just finally become a man

[The Incredible Hulk]

Holy *****, I don't think I have ever read better spoilers than that.



You would think Flash(fastest man alive) would be paired with Aquaman(amazing swimmer) to find Clark, but Im not complaining! Maybe the actor just wasn't available...



MM/Phil Morris is back!!!!


according to his IMDb profile, Gallner isnt working on anything currently:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973177/

I'm hoping the TV Guide article was just listing a few members and not giving the complete list.

LT Young also looks to be available: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949810/

[KBX]

^^^ good, good

We don't need every JL member at the same time, one member here, one member there for the whole season would be good enough! of course, new members are welcome!

[Brainiac 8]

I agree, not all the members need to be on the same mission all the time...that's the beauty of big teams like that.

Cyborg and Flash could be on another mission.

I like that Black Canary is being used now, this version of JLA needed a female member.

[KBX]

Too bad Kara is no long around anymore... she could have been "sent off" with Ollie to help with the team...

There is always Vixen.... and dear I say Wonder Woman... which probably won't happen...

[Webhead2006]

YEa i was just reading about the news over on ksite. I was so happy to read the news on the preimere and the general direction of the season. Hopefully the producers see now that gough and millar are gone to not to have to be using there ideas. Yes they said in that tvguide thing they are gone but still in their minds hopefully that just means they will use their basic ideas they were planning on doing with the show but now will be able to move things in other ways they were not able to do under their control. I am a little disapointed impluse and cyborg will not be in the premeire. Hopefully if they do another jla episode in the season everyone schedules will be free to appear. I know lee is taking on a guest role on scrubs and that is the likely reason he isnt able to shoot the premeire that starts up in a few days. As for bart's actor i have read he has been doing alot of guest spots on shows like law and order and has a reaccuring role on csi ny so maybe he is shooting scenes for other shows or other things that havent been listed on imdb, some times with imdb things people are working on dont get listed to it has aired on tv and also since its fan edited like wiki people can add and change listings of things all the time. As for storyline reasons with cyborg and impluse not showing up i can easily see ollie/BC/aquaman throw out a line saying they are off on another mission somewhere else and all that. Cant wait for the season. Hopefully it will be much better then the lackluster second half of season 7.

[Cmill216]

Even though I hate the idea of proto-Justice Leaguers having to save Clark Kent on his own damn show, I got weak in the knees reading that TV Guide bit. :O :heart:

[04nbod]

Even though I hate the idea of proto-Justice Leaguers having to save Clark Kent on his own damn show, I got weak in the knees reading that TV Guide bit. :O :heart:

Even Jesus needed his disciples Cmill!:o

[Cmill216]

Even Jesus needed his disciples Cmill!:o

Tom Welling > Jesus

:cmad:

[PJBoy]

^ Lol

[Spider-Gamer]

Those spoilers are awesome. :word:

[Superman1980]

These spoilers are by far the best I've read for a long time. This seasons opener is quickly starting to sound f***ing awesome! Bring on the middle of September

[phoenixflight]

Doesn't sound like Flash and Cyborg are in this (damn), however maybe they have left Ollie's team to form there own...

[Brainiac 8]

As it stands, the Ultimate DC universe JLA consists of

Green Arrow
Cyborg
Flash
Black Canary
Aquaman

Not a bad team. I still think the Angel of Vengeance should join the team.

It makes sense that the team is split into several different missions and that all of the team isn't needed to search for Clark in the Artic.

I do hope that Bart shows up again this season...I absolutely love his character in the Smallvilleverse.

[RickO'Connell]

I would think that Aquaman is the only one aside from Clark that can handle the cold there based on who is on the team

[The Incredible Hulk]

As it stands, the Ultimate DC universe JLA consists of

Green Arrow
Cyborg
Flash
Black Canary
Aquaman

Not a bad team. I still think the Angel of Vengeance should join the team.

It makes sense that the team is split into several different missions and that all of the team isn't needed to search for Clark in the Artic.

I do hope that Bart shows up again this season...I absolutely love his character in the Smallvilleverse.

AoV was nothing special, and the actress they used for her was awful at best. I'll pass. I'd rather see them introduce Zatanna or someone into the Smallville-verse.

[KBX]

K-site

UPDATED 7/3/08: Chances are good for Tom Welling fans that we will see an unshaven Clark as the story picks up a few months after the previous finale.

Boy are we getting updates daily.....

http://blogs.oc.edu/ee/images/uploads/sbell/beard.jpg

[Zorex]

That's a cool little tidbit. Good way of showing us time has passed.

[PJBoy]

They probably will do something like the season 2 of Heroes.

[ironman29758]

K-site



Boy are we getting updates daily.....

http://blogs.oc.edu/ee/images/uploads/sbell/beard.jpg

things are finally getting interesting

[Moviefan2k4]

I absolutely love these spoilers! It's about time the classic legend emerged on the series. They've spent the last 7 years repeatedly hinting at it, even including moments like the Fortress rising in "Arrival", or the presence of Jor-El ever since Season Two. If this new season turns out even half as good as these spoilers suggest, I'll be one happy "Smallville" fan. After so long a time, they really need to kick the entire phenomena into high gear.

On a side note, Allison Mack reportedly clarified at the recent Metropolis Convention that the "no tights" section of the series' mantra wasn't entirely due to Al or Miles. Instead, she says it was Tom Welling's idea.

[Prison Mike]

If tights had been involved, I'm sure Welling wouldn't have signed on for the show (given that he turned down the role a couple times).

The spoilers are really shaping up to be good. I always wondered if Clark could grow facial hair. lol

[RickO'Connell]

It looks like Season 7 will pretty much be Metropolis but without that show name

[04nbod]

If tights had been involved, I'm sure Welling wouldn't have signed on for the show (given that he turned down the role a couple times).

The spoilers are really shaping up to be good. I always wondered if Clark could grow facial hair. lol

A show about Superboy should not need a beard. Well at least the facial hair kind of beard. The other beard is of course Lana.:cwink:

[Prison Mike]

A show about Superboy should not need a beard. Well at least the facial hair kind of beard. The other beard is of course Lana.:cwink:

it makes sense, though, since he's been away in the arctic for a couple months. he might not have a beard but maybe a stubble.

[04nbod]

it makes sense, though, since he's been away in the arctic for a couple months. he might not have a beard but maybe a stubble.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/tom-welling-beard.jpg

not pretty:csad:

[Webhead2006]

That is a pic of tom back in 2006 before filming of season then started up.

[KalKai]

A show about Superboy should not need a beard.

It's not.

it makes sense, though, since he's been away in the arctic for a couple months. he might not have a beard but maybe a stubble.

A mere stubble won't do. He should have grown a full beard in few months time, ala Jesus Christ. Well maybe that's a little too much but I'd settle for this:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/4061/tombeardjv9.png

:)

[Webhead2006]

Hopefully we get some set photos in the coming days so we can see how they are going with the beard look if he is going to have it or not.

[ariellem]

Clark is working on a boat near the Arctic? Wow.. lol. That's sounding pretty good to me. I always like it when some type of timeskip is involved.

Well... he does have some experience. ;)

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5734/fog6b600sk3.jpg

Maybe they can use some Fog outtakes to show him working hard (in a turtleneck that he borrowed from some Arctic locals).


Yea powerless/memory loss is what is the likely idea. What if since he is up in the artic its during the time when its dark 24hrs a day for a few months. and if he doesnt have his powers or was weakened by the orb thing his powers cant fully recharge with no sun.

The dark bit makes more sense to me than the orb thing. But we'll see. Maybe he does have his powers but is just laying low for a while, biding his time, trying to figure out what to do next.


K-site: When Clark returns to Metropolis, he'll have a big surprise for Lois.

Let's hope he doesn't get engaged up north to the Snow Queen or some such. That would be a bad sort of surprise for Lo-lo.


K-site
Boy are we getting updates daily.....

http://blogs.oc.edu/ee/images/uploads/sbell/beard.jpg

I like beards on a lot of guys, but not on TW thus far :-< Too wide/not long enough, maybe?

http://www.imstumped.com/pix/misc/manips/tw_as_supes_scruffyredsox_STMTWelling_v.jpg

Blech. Maybe better if the back is shorter?

[Webhead2006]

Hopefully we find out soon what look/type of beard he will be having in the episode. As for the whole lost of memory/powers thing we dont know how it is going. I am hoping he is just powerless, powers were weaken and havent recharged due to being in the artic.

[Zorex]

I think I would prefer having him weakened, not having lost his memory, and not rushing to get home because he feels his life has just been torn asunder, and he's been taking time to find himself again.

[04nbod]

It's not.


you tell E4 who introduce the show as the adventures of superboy before they show it- at least they used to when I watched it on there.

[KALEL114]

Season starts September 18.
http://www.kryptonsite.com/

[Webhead2006]

Yea i was reading about that last night. I actually posted some new spoilers in the major spoilers page that mentioned the start date. Glad its a bit earlier then normal. Cant wait for some on set photos official/fan leaks and then episode promo come late aug.

[Superoldguy]

Let me get this straight. Does anyone on the show not have amnesia?

[zerohour films]

Let me get this straight. Does anyone on the show not have amnesia?

I don't think Lionel ever did...he was always just faking. :yay:

[RickO'Connell]

SO when are we going to start seeing some commercials ? Heroes & The Sarah Connor Chronicles already has commercials :o

[Mikelus]

^^ So? SV started filming this week, we won't see anything till the Comic Con at least, maybe some pics from the premiere could be released in the upcoming weeks though.

[Webhead2006]

well we usually dont get promos/vids untill usually 3-4 weeks before the season starts up. And since comic con is what a week 2 weeks away they dont have much time for footage with only going to have at most two episodes in the can.


On other news i am watching the rerun on tonight and on the bottom of the screen they had one of those ticker scroll things going on. Well it was stating it the season premiere isnt airing untill oct 2nd. God i hope they is false it was revealed the other week it was going to be sept 18th. Hopefully sept 18th is the air date.

[biaaly]

On other news i am watching the rerun on tonight and on the bottom of the screen they had one of those ticker scroll things going on. Well it was stating it the season premiere isnt airing untill oct 2nd. God i hope they is false it was revealed the other week it was going to be sept 18th. Hopefully sept 18th is the air date.

I saw that too.. they also spoiled Doomsday LOL and mentioned that they will explore the "complicated" Oliver, Lois relationship this season. WHY!!! :whatever: I don't see the point when they ended it with the reasons she gave him in Siren.

[Webhead2006]

well we dont know if that was all correct information there. I doubt they will be going back to oliver and lois, since with way siren ended she and him said they could never work. At most he will probably have a relationship we dont see with dinah or maybe a possibly relationship with the tess mercer character. But we will have to wait and see come premeire were their relationship stands since we will see dinah in premiere. As for what the ticker said about oct 2nd for premiere date on main page of ksite craig the webmaster there said he is looking into it and will try to find out the true date for the preiemre. I hope it ends up being the sept 18th one. Yea its not much a of deal if we have to wait an extra 3 weeks. But since they started filming a few weeks earlier then in the past they will have more in the can come sept for it to start up. So hopefully we get it starting in sept. I dont see why they would wait so long to start the show when all their other new/returning shows are due to be starting up in sept right.

[Mikelus]

The CW is not very accurate to say the least, they have misleaded viewers with their episode descriptions and promos many times, is better to wait for more reliable sources to confirm any info.

[Webhead2006]

Yea that are pretty bad in the advertising/episode descriptions for shows. Hopefully that oct 2 ends up being false and its the sept 18th date that been talked about last few days/week from tv guide. I really dont see why they would wait so long with filming starting this week which is a bit earlier then past years and all that. Pretty much all the other cw new/returning shows have been confirmed for early/mid sept start dates right why wouldnt they put their number 1 scripted drama show in earlier.

[Serene]

I saw that too.. they also spoiled Doomsday LOL and mentioned that they will explore the "complicated" Oliver, Lois relationship this season. WHY!!! :whatever: I don't see the point when they ended it with the reasons she gave him in Siren.

Well, I wouldn't worry too much about an Ollie/Lois reunion. I think they have to go there at least to a certain extent because their former relationship is show canon. It has to be acknowledged and I imagine that having him back in town would make for a complicated situation between them, at least for a while. But I don't think they will reunite them, all signs seem to point to this being a season of growing awareness between Clark and Lois. I can see a scene where Ollie recognizes the growing closeness of Clark and Lois, even before they see it themselves - similar to Lana's sensing of the same in Gone(?). - "Sometimes the best ones start out that way."

[Webhead2006]

Some new updates from ksite for premiere:
www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm
Written By: Todd Slavkin, Darren Swimmer, Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson
Directed By: Kevin Fair
Guest Stars: Alaina Huffman (Black Canary), Alan Ritchson (Aquaman), Phil Morris (John Jones/Martian Manhunter)

UPDATED 7/27/08: New spoilers from the Comic-Con preview:
- Lois dresses as a maid to infiltrate the Luthor mansion.
- Green Arrow shoots Clark for some reason.

[b24]

did kevin fair direct any episode before

[Webhead2006]

YEs he has kevin been known to be the director for weeks now, the new info was who are the writers and the 7/27/08 bit.

[KBX]

Wonder what the Martian has been up to. Hopefully he have a scene near the end of an episode telling Clark you can't trust Davis or warn him about something coming...

[greenlantern248]

Yea that would be nice or he is worried if he goes back to smallville/metroplis lex could control him and he doesnt want to hurt his friends and others.

I'm going to have to agree with you on the scared to go back home part Webhead. Cause if he can't find Lex anywhere Clark might think Lex is waiting back home for him. So he figures he could stay up here were he thinks he is safe.

I'm also incline to believe that he might not have his powers either (not memory loss, just power loss) cause in the trailer at Comic Con Clark was getting his but kicked by what looked to be just men in three piece suits.

[b24]

superman without his power can't fight :(

even in SR he got his a** kicked by lex luthor when he was weak

and in superman 2 where he is normla like human got his a** kicked up by that old trucker dude in a resturant

[Webhead2006]

YEa i am totally feeling he is just powerless and not lost of memory.

[greenlantern248]

Well there is that, but I was saying that only because we has taken punches and we know that if he had his powers those guys hitting him would break there hands.
Remember when Canary went to kick him and she bounced right off of him.

[b24]

i thinke he is both powerless and has amnesia

too because when GA asks him where is lex he surprisingly says Lex ???

[Webhead2006]

Well with that maybe he jsut doesnt know where lex is.

[greenlantern248]

Or maybe something bigger is going on and he is surprised that Oliver is more focused on Lex

Edit: I just can't honestly think that the writers would do another season premier with another memory loss episode.

[b24]

i m juts curious whate hapenned to lex

maybe jorel sent him to phantom zone

maybe martiuan manhunter will tell clark what hapenned to lex

[Whiteflag]

Is Bizarro going to be back in this episode? According to IMDB, Tom plays Bizarro in "Odyssey". :huh:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919991/

I can't say that I'd be happy about it. :whatever:

[Whiteflag]

Is anyone else having problems with the site? It's going really slow.

[mellyM]

Is Bizarro going to be back in this episode? According to IMDB, Tom plays Bizarro in "Odyssey". :huh:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919991/

I can't say that I'd be happy about it. :whatever:

Thats a mis-print, there won't be Bizarro in the episode

[Whiteflag]

Thats a mis-print, there won't be Bizarro in the episode

Oh, that's a relief! Thanks! :yay:

[The Incredible Hulk]

all info on IMDB is user submitted, dont put much faith in anything you see over there

[Webhead2006]

Yea its like wiki which is fan edited and most wrong before things are out on tv/theaters.

[Mikelus]

i m juts curious whate hapenned to lex

maybe jorel sent him to phantom zone

maybe martiuan manhunter will tell clark what hapenned to lex

Tess will be looking for Lex, so I don't think we'll know anything for a while, TPTB will probably keep the suspense till the last episodes, it would be great if Michael does a cameo for the finale.

[Blacklight]

It sounds like in this ep Lex will control Clark to take out GA and the Justice League which leads to them saving him. Which is why GA will shoot Clark. Probably with a Kryptonite Arrow

[Mikelus]

^^ No, Lex is not involved, Michael Rosenbaum is not part of the cast anymore. Tess will be looking for Lex though (he's missing).

[b24]

aftre redaing spoilers of next episodes after odeyssey i can see why they chose tottle odeyssey for this seseaon epiosde

because episode will be MAJOR turnning point for clark

but i also wonder what makes clark to suddenenly change his persepective on his destiny i it could be-

1. his confrontatiuon with lex at FOS

2. him realizing he can never be one of them

3. living powerless and with no memory will of course have effect on him

4. he also witnesses may be suffering of people when he in russia and see that people need some savior

[kal_el_526]

Did I miss something? When is Clark going to Russia? lol And exactly one month from today this episode we'll be on,can't wait.

[mellyM]

aftre redaing spoilers of next episodes after odeyssey i can see why they chose tottle odeyssey for this seseaon epiosde

because episode will be MAJOR turnning point for clark

but i also wonder what makes clark to suddenenly change his persepective on his destiny i it could be-

1. his confrontatiuon with lex at FOS

2. him realizing he can never be one of them

3. living powerless and with no memory will of course have effect on him

4. he also witnesses may be suffering of people when he in russia and see that people need some savior

Was it confirmed he has no memory?

[Webhead2006]

we dont know only thing that is sure is he doesnt have his powers, i am hopeing they are not playing the lost of memory card again.

[Zorex]

The fact that he said in the Comic Con preview, "I just want to go home," makes me think that he won't be rocking the amnesia again. I know it's not hard evidence, but that's how I read it.

[Migu-EL]

The fact that he said in the Comic Con preview, "I just want to go home," makes me think that he won't be rocking the amnesia again. I know it's not hard evidence, but that's how I read it.

Yeah that's a pretty logical assumption. If he had amnesia he wouldn't know where home is. So it's pretty safe to say that he'll have his memory in this episode.

[Zorex]

I think it's better that way. It provides good dramatic material. Instead of being unable to get home due to being unable to remember home, he (perhaps) has been willingly staying away.

[b24]

byt wasn't there a scene in comic con where GA akska clark where lex is and clark says surprisingly Lex???? like he doens't know or rmember lex

[Mikelus]

^^ Yes, the scene was in the Comic Con trailer, he seems to be powerless and with memory loss.

[Zorex]

byt wasn't there a scene in comic con where GA akska clark where lex is and clark says surprisingly Lex???? like he doens't know or rmember lex
Ehh, he repeated Lex's name in a confused tone. To me, that doesn't necessarily denote memory loss. Clark being confused isn't anything new, IMO.

[KalKai]

GA shoots Clark for some reason in that scene, he's clearly acting OOC & Clark's just confused on why GA is suddenly searching for Lex.

The TV Guide blurb should put this to rest:

Justice League to the rescue

Smallville is back for its eighth season on September 18 with a superpowered opener. With Clark (Tom Welling) still missing after his showdown with Lex in May's season finale, it's up to the Justice League to save the day. Aquaman(Alan Ritchson), Black Canary(Alania Huffman) and Green Arrow(Justin Hartley)track down the Man of Steel at a shady Russian work camp, where Clark is powerless. "The Justice League will never be the same, and Clark Kent will never be the same,"says Exec Producer Todd Slavkin. "The preimere pushes us into areas we've never explored before, mainly Clark's destiny."

No mention of a memory loss.

[Webhead2006]

Well i been thinking more he does have his memory like when he says in the comic con promo he just wants to go home. He probably has just been staying away for fear or what not. As for the part with Ga we dont have the full scene so we dont know how its getting played out. Maybe he thought lex was gone and didnt survive the fall of the FOS and that why he is surprised when ollie asks him where's lex.

[b24]

it will be intresting if they show clark despite being powerless helping some poor people in that russian camp and because of that he has some arguement with those goons (scene which they showed in comic con)

i wonder why theye werer beating clark

[04nbod]

the picture from TV Guide is on K-site, black canary is looking a little odd, manly maybe or a little podgy in the tight suit?

Justin though, ahh..I can't say a bad word about that man

[Webhead2006]

YEa i posted the link over in the season 8 spoilers thread. I heard there are a few more pics from the tv guide article but they havent been posted yet.

[PJBoy]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7529/liga8lh7.jpg

[Webhead2006]

I already posted it as i said in the other thread pj.

[Webhead2006]

I heard there is a few more pics from the season premeire not from the tv guide article i am trying to locate them.

[PJBoy]

I already posted it as i said in the other thread pj.
I'm very aware of that. :cwink:

[Webhead2006]

ok sorry pj.

[mellyM]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7529/liga8lh7.jpg

Geez. Clark is relegated to a tiny circle and the focus is on the guest stars?...lovely.

[Webhead2006]

Behind the scenes photos from premiere:
Taken down as suggested by pjboy.

[PJBoy]

Webhead2006 I have seen these pictures and the guy who took/found them have even protected them with password in his photobucket album, obviously he don't want them in public. Think you should delete them!

[Webhead2006]

ok sorry.

[04nbod]

Geez. Clark is relegated to a tiny circle and the focus is on the guest stars?...lovely.

but the guest stars are sexy, they save clark in the opener and they're sexy..:applaud

[mellyM]

but the guest stars are sexy, they save clark in the opener and they're sexy..:applaud

Clark is way sexier (to me) and I want to see the other pics, stop being ethical and put them back.

[Serene]

Webhead2006 I have seen these pictures and the guy who took/found them have even protected them with password in his photobucket album, obviously he don't want them in public. Think you should delete them!

NOOoooooo...! Well, okay. If they were ripped out of his PB album without his permission, then I guess they probably shouldn't be posted.

But they could be PM'd to people... just sayin' :D

[HoodedAvenger12]

NOOoooooo...! Well, okay. If they were ripped out of his PB album without his permission, then I guess they probably shouldn't be posted.

But they could be PM'd to people... just sayin' :D

Yeah, Id like a PM too, I really want to see these new pics.

[KalKai]

They don't seem to be THAT interesting.

[HoodedAvenger12]

What are they of exactly?

[Webhead2006]

yea its nothing to special. its a few behind the scenes pics. First few may be from siren the rest are just some pics of them standing around the sets.

[KalKai]

What he said.

[HoodedAvenger12]

They still would be nice to see, since we havent seen any new pics except the TV Guide one yet.

[Serene]

They don't seem to be THAT interesting.


Prove it. :D

[KalKai]

Prove it. :D

There's no Clark in sight, there.

:D

I don't have them. I'm pretty sure they showed up on MySpace 1st alongside the BTS shot of Tom & Alaina. Could be the same person, or maybe not.

[Serene]

There's no Clark in sight, there.

:D

Okay, you proved it. :(

:oldrazz:

[04nbod]

Okay, you proved it. :(

:oldrazz:

tommel vision in action!:applaud:funny:

[mellyM]

Okay, you proved it. :(

:oldrazz:
Oh you know, I had seen the pics before, I forgot, and yea, nothing big:)

[Gmanofsteel]

awww damnit

[PJBoy]

Yeah, nothing really special. The only interesting thing is that you can see the 1.5 costume version of Black Canary very well.

[Webhead2006]

Hey guys the Cw has officially revealed the season premiere episode description:
THE JUSTICE LEAGUE RETURNS TO FIND CLARK AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE FORTRESS; THE NEW CEO OF LUTHORCORP COMES TO TOWN — The Justice League, lead by the Green Arrow (Justin Hartley), hits the Artic in search of Clark (Tom Welling), who disappeared after the fortress collapsed. The team immediately has a confrontation with the new CEO of Luthorcorp, Tess Mercer (Cassidy Freeman). Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) is being held prisoner by a suspicious group who has discovered she has a new power, and Clark has been stripped of his powers by Jor-El. Erica Durance and Aaron Ashmore also star. Kevin Fair directed the episode with the story by Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders and teleplay by Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer.
It sounds pretty good and i cant wait to see the episode. But as we know in past yrs the descriptions have been wrong many times. So lets see if it will be true or not this year. Also its looking if the description is right its just a lost of powers and not memory for clark.

[Prison Mike]

Hey guys the Cw has officially revealed the season premiere episode description:

It sounds pretty good and i cant wait to see the episode. But as we know in past yrs the descriptions have been wrong many times. So lets see if it will be true or not this year. Also its looking if the description is right its just a lost of powers and not memory for clark.

I wonder how he'll get his powers back.

[Webhead2006]

I heard an idea here or ksite maybe it will be martian manhunter who gets his powers back because he is in the episode still as far as i know. And likely only interacting with tom/clark in the episode.

[Webhead2006]

Hey guys a poster at ksite got there hands on some photos from premiere. Right now they are only small size:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3956316&postcount=92

[Brainiac 8]

Jor-El really loves to pull the tough love/ground his son from his powers routine.

:(

[Webhead2006]

yea but we dont even know if the description is totally true they have been pretty wrong in the past and we dont never know if the jor-el AI survived the destuction of the FOS.

[Brainiac 8]

Tis true, the descriptions can be decieving at times...we'll see.

I hope Jor-El survived the crash, mostly because before the show ends, I'm hoping for a reconciliatory heart to heart between Clark and Jor-El. :up:

[04nbod]

stills from 8.1
http://spoilertv-smallville.blogspot.com/2008/08/episode-801-odyssey-promotional-photos.html


EDIT- too quick for me! anyway, Oli looks yummy

[mellyM]

stills from 8.1
http://spoilertv-smallville.blogspot.com/


EDIT- too quick for me! anyway, Oli looks yummy

i think my girl parts imploded.

Any chance we can get a show called 'Clark Kent: the Russian Labor Camp Years' ?

[04nbod]

i think my girl parts imploded.

Any chance we can get a show called 'Clark Kent: the Russian Labor Camp Years' ?

I saw them and thought, 'thats some crazy slash fan fic come to life'

In non fangirly news
Tess looks great. i'm getting the tessmacher vibe from her pictures even if she has the mercy personality

[Prison Mike]

Clark really looks grown up in those pics. He doesn't have that boyish hair look and he has that 5 o'clock shadow going on there. And....Tess looks hot.

[b24]

Jor-El really loves to pull the tough love/ground his son from his powers routine.

:(


well this time he made a good move

because that orb thing seems like would have made clark under lex's control so jor-el stripped clark of his power and destroyed FOS(himself) so clark won't harm anyone

that's why clark seems like learned his lesson and maybe has new respect for jor-el