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$klaary
06-28-2008, 11:09 AM
http://www.movieweb.com/news/18/29618.php

ActuallyRobin
06-28-2008, 11:10 AM
He even went on to compare it to his own work as Voldemort, saying...

Ermm, oops :p

Symbiotic
06-28-2008, 11:11 AM
Interesting read.

Patty
06-28-2008, 11:15 AM
"It is well known that Oldman tried to get out of appearing in The Dark Knight, but his contract wouldn't allow it."

I didnt know that :-/

Carusos Shades
06-28-2008, 11:18 AM
Why did Oldman want out? News to me and very surprising.

Hole Shot
06-28-2008, 11:19 AM
Why did Oldman want out? News to me and very surprising.

He wants to retire.

Commodore Schmidlapp
06-28-2008, 11:19 AM
You think if something had popped up online regarding Oldman wanting out, it would've been all over these boards.

chetdenim
06-28-2008, 11:21 AM
Interesting, so Oldman alludes to Nolans return for a third and the Riddler appearing.

Sharkboy
06-28-2008, 11:23 AM
I was never a massive riddler fan, so i dont see all the fuss over having him in the third film. However it seems that loads of people here love him to bits. Does anyone know of a really good riddler story in the comics that might change my mind?

I really want Nolan to come back for a third, If there is one film to break the trilogy curse its this one.

fear&loathing
06-28-2008, 11:25 AM
this "interview" seems fake

oneahis
06-28-2008, 11:25 AM
awesome. dude!!

Patty
06-28-2008, 11:29 AM
I never liked Riddler. Although the article seanbaby did about him was hilarious:

http://seanbaby.com/superfriends/riddler.htm

Mister J
06-28-2008, 11:32 AM
As has been noted, Nolan doesn't really tend to think too far ahead, preferring to concentrate on the present task. I doubt he's made plans on a third film or to focus on Edward Nigma. Even in the case that he did, I sorely doubt Oldman would let that slip prior to the second film's release.

Going against the lack of veracity I believe this article to hold, I prefer they not rehash another villain if there is to be another film.

DaRkVeNgeanCe
06-28-2008, 11:34 AM
You think if something had popped up online regarding Oldman wanting out, it would've been all over these boards.

Ya I know right?:wow:

Hole Shot
06-28-2008, 11:36 AM
You think if something had popped up online regarding Oldman wanting out, it would've been all over these boards.

It did and he said he's about ready to retire. I didn't make that up and I read the article on this very message board about a year ago.

Bat-Mite
06-28-2008, 11:37 AM
Even if that quote from Oldman is legit (which I'm very doubtful about), then he's probably just saying that the Riddler's another potential villain they could use, not that they're going to use him. And until there's some form of proof, I'm calling BS on their claim that Oldman tried to get out of doing TDK.

jabroni2kz
06-28-2008, 11:40 AM
come on guys it is totally fake
...Oldman does not even play Voldemort, Ralph Feines does; Oldam played Sirius(sp?) Black

Hole Shot
06-28-2008, 11:47 AM
come on guys it is totally fake
...Oldman does not even play Voldemort, Ralph Feines does; Oldam played Sirius(sp?) Black

I think Oldman cited Voldemort and the writer mistakenly associated the character with him.

If it's fake then the writer has to write a retraction and letter of apology or get his and Movieweb's ass kicked by WB. Journalists are not allowed to just make up quotes like that and pretend they talked to people. They can take things out of context and misrepresents quotes but that's not what's happening here.

hegele
06-28-2008, 12:13 PM
I remember an interview around the release of Batman Begins where Oldman and Freeman were being asked questions about the film and potential sequels. It was a sit down interview, they asked both of them if they wanted to come back. Oldman said "I certainly hope so, i'd love to be apart of this again, what do you think Morgan? Aren't we under contract to do another?" Morgan replies "From your mouth to Gods ears".

Seems like he wanted to do more then.

Hole Shot
06-28-2008, 12:24 PM
Here, it's not a direct issue with the Batman project, he's just over the business as a whole and is getting ready to move on. This is about a year old, so TDK was already in production but I think somewhere in between the two movies is when he deciding he's preparing to calling it quits and that's what he was referring to in the interview above.

From JOBLO.COM: Well, it's a sad day indeed. It seems that the movie gods are calling time on my all-time favourite actor, Gary Oldman's career (can't you guys take Lindsay Lohan instead?) after he hinted that he is pretty close to quitting acting, because his love of the craft has 'withered'.

This isn't an official announcement, but it stills sends a real chill down my spine.

Oldman said "I've had a great career and I'm very lucky to do what I do. But I've been doing it a long time and you can get tired. You might say I want to change careers or to do something else."

ArmsHeldOut
06-28-2008, 12:24 PM
This interview seems odd. You almost get the feeling that Nolan and Oldman didn't want to be in the same room with this guy, i.e., the interviewer.

Octoberist
06-28-2008, 12:58 PM
i remember a while back, Devin of chud.com (i know) mentioned that there was an actor who wanted to get out of his contract when because he regretted taking it... It's Oldman? Of all people.

Nirvana
06-28-2008, 01:00 PM
Gary Oldman didn't want to come back for The Dark Knight? Why? Is there an article talking about it? :csad:

Ugh, I kind of regret reading that article. God damn Riddler...I would have wanted that to be a surprise :csad:

ronny
06-28-2008, 01:03 PM
Does anyone know of a really good riddler story in the comics that might change my mind?

Try reading Four of A Kind. It deals with The Riddler's origins and is a great story.

Batman jr.
06-28-2008, 01:03 PM
Oldman... one of the greatest actors alive; to me you don't even know if he's acting or honest when he does an interview.

But enough with the jokes.

Riddler would be great, and I don't see anyone else playing Gordon in BB3 :brucebat:

Gianakin_
06-28-2008, 01:22 PM
He better come back for no3.

selinakyle415
06-28-2008, 02:10 PM
I don't think that the article is entirely based on fact.

Watson
06-28-2008, 02:16 PM
:huh:

It's not an allusion if you say "The Riddler will be in the next film".

Methinks Oldman is toying with foolish reporters.

tw9876z
06-28-2008, 02:21 PM
this is such a poorly written article that it actually hurt to read it.
all the guys info is wrong, the first sentence is completely off. how does a guy work for a movie website and get actors mixed up. thats really sad.

and also, what a prick to go around asking if their going to replace ledger. the second film isnt even out yet, wait a little.

this is a sad sad article, a monkey couldve produced something better.

ArmsHeldOut
06-28-2008, 03:04 PM
this is such a poorly written article that it actually hurt to read it.
all the guys info is wrong, the first sentence is completely off. how does a guy work for a movie website and get actors mixed up. thats really sad.

and also, what a prick to go around asking if their going to replace ledger. the second film isnt even out yet, wait a little.

this is a sad sad article, a monkey couldve produced something better.

What he said..

Ferd
06-28-2008, 03:35 PM
Doesn't seem legit to me. I'd say all the press now would be centered around promoting TDK not speculating cast and characters for number three. Seriously. It just reads like a fake.

Phallic
06-28-2008, 08:24 PM
Then somebody is going to have a lawsuit on their hands.

I doubt it's a fake.

Mr. Earle
06-28-2008, 08:36 PM
When I asked if he, himself, wanted to come back for a third segment, he smiled coyly, "We don't really know if Nolan is coming back." He then shook his head. "I guess I have to come back." He then put his hand to the side of his mouth as if to hide the next line from everybody, "Nolan will come back for a third one. I think we all have to." It is well known that Oldman tried to get out of appearing in The Dark Knight (http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/81/4381/summary.php), but his contract wouldn't allow it. I think that he has a contract or at least he feels the obligation to his character to complete his work.

Oldman then took a moment to think about it some more, "Maybe we don't need the Joker. Because we'll have The Riddler." Yes, Oldman alluded to the fact that The Riddler may in fact be the next on-screen Batman villain. I think he is joking. Please dont start making threads about this cause i really think that what he meant is that they could replace the joker with some other supervillain. When the actors of the TDK only read their own lines and not the entire script, do you really think that they were let to know who is gonna be the villain in the third movie?

Unless....we see the Riddler rising at the end of TDK.

If i can speak for myself, i would like to see the joker in the third film. This joker is so great and one film isnt enough. Someone else could take the mantle and Nolan could use the joker in the second film. Its not like his Joker would stay in Arkham for long, and even if he did, the walls and the rest of the inmates would really feel his presence. This dude doesnt go unnoticed and you just cant instantly erase him.

wikum
06-28-2008, 09:12 PM
wouldn't it have been all over the net by now if the riddler is alluded to in dark knight?

Charlie The Red
06-28-2008, 09:33 PM
Fake as a golden ticket from Argentina.

xero1186
06-28-2008, 10:17 PM
It's hard to tell because it's written and I can't actually HEAR how the reporter was talking but that interview came across really, really rude and irritating.

Yurka
06-28-2008, 11:43 PM
I really hope the riddler is not in the next one.

Ace of Spades
06-28-2008, 11:52 PM
After watching Gotham Knight I really think if there is another Batman film (not necessarily a Nolan film) the main villain has to be Deadshot.

David Rice
06-29-2008, 12:23 AM
I think Oldman cited Voldemort and the writer mistakenly associated the character with him.

If it's fake then the writer has to write a retraction and letter of apology or get his and Movieweb's ass kicked by WB. Journalists are not allowed to just make up quotes like that and pretend they talked to people. They can take things out of context and misrepresents quotes but that's not what's happening here.

Not on the internet.

Red Rose
06-29-2008, 07:51 AM
Edit

Judson Caspian
06-29-2008, 08:29 AM
Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, The Joker and Two-Face are all badass villains. But The Riddler is just plain boring. Bring some other villain.

Laderlappen
06-29-2008, 08:30 AM
I dont trust this interview. Why would Oldman know that the Riddler would be in the third if Nolan doesnt even have any plans yet?!

Phallic
06-29-2008, 09:37 AM
I dont trust this interview. Why would Oldman know that the Riddler would be in the third if Nolan doesnt even have any plans yet?!

He's probably just saying that you don't need the Joker to have a good villain in the next film.

"Nolan will come back for a third one.

Both Oldman and Bale have basically claimed this. I really hope they're right, Nolan really should at least finish Batman's character arc.

escobar2248
06-30-2008, 09:37 AM
come on guys it is totally fake
...Oldman does not even play Voldemort, Ralph Feines does; Oldam played Sirius(sp?) Black

How is it fake when Oldman's manager said that his quote in this article was taken out of context??

Taken from /Film.com regarding the article:Update: Producer Douglas Urbanski, who is a friend/manager of Oldman, has contacted Slashfilm to say that he was with the actor at the time and believes the following quotes were “taken widely out of context.”

bdaythug
06-30-2008, 10:02 AM
but if the riddler is in the next movie, you know batman will def. be more of a detective than ever because of the riddler, which will be sweet. since its nolan, i can see a crazy csi-gritty type crime scene w/ riddles and stuff for batman

milan22
06-30-2008, 10:22 AM
I think Oldman cited Voldemort and the writer mistakenly associated the character with him.

If it's fake then the writer has to write a retraction and letter of apology or get his and Movieweb's ass kicked by WB. Journalists are not allowed to just make up quotes like that and pretend they talked to people. They can take things out of context and misrepresents quotes but that's not what's happening here.
Hmm, err... It says Sirius Black not Voldemort. Where are you guys reading this?

escobar2248
06-30-2008, 10:50 AM
but if the riddler is in the next movie, you know batman will def. be more of a detective than ever because of the riddler, which will be sweet. since its nolan, i can see a crazy csi-gritty type crime scene w/ riddles and stuff for batman

I think that all of us fanboys would love to see that come to fruition.

However, I don't know how interesting it would be for the general film public?

Hole Shot
06-30-2008, 11:11 AM
Hmm, err... It says Sirius Black not Voldemort. Where are you guys reading this?

Ask anyone who read this earlier it said Voldemort. Now the writer really screwed up though. I could accept that Oldman was talking about the villain from Harry Potter the writer mistakenly associate Oldman with the character. But now there is no way Oldman was telling people Sirius Black scares little children.

cultstatus
06-30-2008, 12:06 PM
They set up Anthony Michael Hall as the Riddler, go watch the latest Gotham tonight on comcast, his rant on Batman screams riddler, the last shot of the movie confirms it anyway.

Gianakin_
06-30-2008, 12:14 PM
They set up Anthony Michael Hall as the Riddler, go watch the latest Gotham tonight on comcast, his rant on Batman screams riddler, the last shot of the movie confirms it anyway.

What's the last shot of the movie?

DieSmiling
06-30-2008, 12:15 PM
Oldman is just joking/speculating/throwing it out there. This means nothing.

cultstatus
06-30-2008, 12:15 PM
What's the last shot of the movie?

He draws a question mark on a picture of Batman. Like BB with the joker card.

Octoberist
06-30-2008, 12:17 PM
are you serious?

Gianakin_
06-30-2008, 12:18 PM
He draws a question mark on a picture of Batman. Like BB with the joker card.

You've either been misinformed or you are lying.

DieSmiling
06-30-2008, 12:19 PM
He draws a question mark on a picture of Batman. Like BB with the joker card.

That's awful. I hope it isn't true.

cultstatus
06-30-2008, 12:21 PM
Everyone was calling me out on what I said about Two Face and I was right there, believe what you want. Im not a huge riddler fan but in Nolan's universe it could be awesome.

Gianakin_
06-30-2008, 12:24 PM
What were you saying about 2Face? In the other thread you said he gets shot, when we've learned from multiple sources that he falls to his death.

cultstatus
06-30-2008, 12:28 PM
Where does it say he falls?

Gianakin_
06-30-2008, 12:32 PM
AICN talkbacks. They are buried somewhere in the REview thread, too bored to dig them out.

cultstatus
06-30-2008, 12:35 PM
AICN talkbacks. They are buried somewhere in the REview thread, too bored to dig them out.

So because of a random talkback post he falls to his death? He doesnt, he jumps in front of a bullet.

Gianakin_
06-30-2008, 12:38 PM
So because of a random talkback post he falls to his death? He doesnt, he jumps in front of a bullet.

Please elaborate then. I will humbly eat my words and apologize. Explain the scene and clarify if he dies for sure or if there's a small hint that points to his return.

And please use spoiler tags when you answer, if you answer. Even better, answer at the Reviews thread or the 2Face thread.

cultstatus
06-30-2008, 12:50 PM
Please elaborate then. I will humbly eat my words and apologize. Explain the scene and clarify if he dies for sure or if there's a small hint that points to his return.

And please use spoiler tags when you answer, if you answer. Even better, answer at the Reviews thread or the 2Face thread.

No idea, everything I was told by someone who has seen the movie has been confirmed so I would tend believe him when he sees he jumped infront of a bullet. I read somwhere that they filmed two ending for joker(ended up using the one where he lives) maybe they did the same for two face.

SuperBatman
06-30-2008, 01:02 PM
I have no idea what to believe anymore

One Review aka talkback says that he falls from a height the other is that he jumps in front of a bullet. Um yeah I guess we will have to wait and see the movie