Official Selina Kyle / Catwoman thread

[Timstuff]

Alright, I see a bunch of Catwoman threads popping up, and the last dedicated Catwoman thread I remember is gone now, so let's have ourselves an official thread already! Remember, this is not to be confused with the Catwoman casting thread, which is for actress discussion. This is a thread specifically for discussing the character and the various aspects of bringing her into Batman 3. If you've got something to say specifically about Catwoman, chances are it's best said in here!

Let me start with some of my own thoughts on the character: I think that Catwoman should be more of an antihero / supporting character, rather than being a true villain like she was in Batman Retuns. Like Batman she exists as a shade of gray, but usually of a darker tone (or, in some rare instances, a lighter one). She runs along rooftops playing Robinhood, robbing Gotham's rich (and greedy, as she'd percieve them) to fund her own interests, some of which may be noble, while others are more selfish. And of couse, she loves the hunt, and gets a kick out of being chased by Batman.

Alright, now let's get this thread moving. Discuss Batman's feline fatale here!

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[Ethermatic]

Personally, I think Selina Kyle/Catwoman would be one of the easiest to translate from the comics to the big screen. Her current look, highlighted early on by Darwyn Cook and polished by the likes of Adam Hughes and Jim Lee are easily the best and most realistic physical portrayal. And would require little to no change on Nolan's part. Couple that with any necessary equipment she would carry with her for both burglary and spying, and you're set. Not to start a back-and-forth for the actress, but I still like Kate Beckinsale and Eva Green for such a part. There are others I have considered before, but those are my top two.

I'm on the same side I'm always on...
It's no secret that Nolan finds influences from many of the great Batman graphic novels, especially The Long Halloween. I believe her attitude and style both in The Long Halloween and Dark Victory would be perfect for the film and add that necessary shade of grey. But also appeal to both Batman and Bruce Wayne. Perhaps a beautiful socialite with a dark or seedy past. More an anti-hero than villain, who can do many good things in the film, but by committing crimes or doing little services for the Gotham City Underworld. Whether it be spying or getting information for them.

[Gianakin_]

Catwoman can easily be translated into a movie, as a mirror of Batman gone slightly wrong. Plus, I think it's time to bring a female villain in the franchise. Especially now that Rachel's out of the picture.

[Sloth7d]

Basically, I see her starting off as a wealthy madam (prostitue/pimp) who manages several underground brothels throughout all of Gotham. Something happens, (maybe her husband or business partner tries to kill her), she snaps (dones the costume and equipment, maybe even some training) and begins taking her revenge out on those who've wronged her by robbing those responsible, killing those responsible, ect.
Or not. I leave it all up to Nolan whether she's used and how. At this point, I trust his choices.

[Timstuff]

I personally want them to stay away from the idea of "Selina is someone who snapped and then put on a costume." It does not work that way in real life. I always imagined that Selina is someone who has been making a living as a thief since she was a kid, eventually becoming a world-class cat burglar. Expert cat burglars are not people who "snapped" and then became good at it over night.

Personally, I would rather they not show Selina's transition to Catwoman. I think that Catwoman should be a pre-existing phenomina who's been around for a while, but she has not been working within Gotham until recently, so she hasn't been of any concern to Batman. One night, Batman catches her breaking into a building, and they have a little chase scene.

If you have Catwoman as a pre-existing character, you can focus more on who she is rather than getting tripped up on where she came from. She'd have plenty of back story, sure, but they can probably skip showing her actual origin for the most part. I don't want them to just show a stupid 3-minute Selina-to-Catwoman "origin" like they had in Batman Returns. This version of Catwoman's origin should be her entire life's story, much like Batman's origin is his life's story. And since it's not Catwoman's movie, you can't show her origin the same way Bruce's was shown, because then it becomes a Catwoman movie. Having her as a pre-existing character whom Batman hasn't met is the way to go IMO.

Catwoman is what Selina Kyle has chosen to do about the world's problems, and how she relieves her own emotional problems. Catwoman should not be just some random fluke that caused a woman to put on a costume and weild a whip. She needs to be someone who devoted her entire life to becoming the absolute best in the world at what she does, which would have taken years of practice. She should be a professional thief with a personal agenda, not just a traumatized woman acting out selfish revenge fantasies about a past attacker.

[BobJM]

Catwoman should have no origin in BB3. She is simply a masked woman who robs mob lords (Black Mask) and has become the unofficial protector of Gotham's East End (could be substituted for the Narrows).

Batman and her run into each other frequently, causing him to question his moral integrity and the boundaries he's set up for himself. She can cross the line that he can't and treats what they do as a game, whereas he has (following TDK's events) become distant and deadset on his mission to rid Gotham of crime. SHe represents the gray area that still exists within himself.

Eventually, he accepts her actions against the mob as he sees that it cripples their empire. Plus, he learns that together with her, he isn't alone in his fight anymore.

[jackshea]

i Think they should have her steal incomplete equipment for batman from fox, it would play up the cat burglar aspect and give her an excuse to dress like that because its stolen bat costume stuff thats incomplete so it looks like a cat.

[Timstuff]

Catwoman should have no origin in BB3. She is simply a masked woman who robs mob lords (Black Mask) and has become the unofficial protector of Gotham's East End (could be substituted for the Narrows).

Batman and her run into each other frequently, causing him to question his moral integrity and the boundaries he's set up for himself. She can cross the line that he can't and treats what they do as a game, whereas he has (following TDK's events) become distant and deadset on his mission to rid Gotham of crime. SHe represents the gray area that still exists within himself.

Eventually, he accepts her actions against the mob as he sees that it cripples their empire. Plus, he learns that together with her, he isn't alone in his fight anymore.

That is pretty much how I think Catwoman should be as well, although I think that her better traits should be somewhat less visible to Batman at first. Also, she should not limit herself to just robbing mob bosses, but instead anyone who she considers to be greedy and over privelaged.

Catwoman's view of Gotham's problems should start out a bit more shallow than Batman's. The version of Catwoman I have in my head would have been born into the narrows, and escaped them as a teenager after stealing enough to afford a better life. If that were the case, she'd probably see Gotham's corruption as a matter of the "haves" vs. the "have nots," while Batman sees the bigger picture of good vs. evil.

i Think they should have her steal incomplete equipment for batman from fox, it would play up the cat burglar aspect and give her an excuse to dress like that because its stolen bat costume stuff thats incomplete so it looks like a cat.

Frankly, I don't really like this idea. Catwoman's cowl, while bearing some similarities to Batman's, typically has a very different silhouette (unless we're talking the Burton costume). Batman's ears are very straight and pointed upward, while Catwoman's are a bit more rounded, and facing forward like a cat's. Also, her stealing a cowl from Wayne Industries would kind of undermine all the reasons she would choose a cat as her signature animal.

[jackshea]

wel the ears could be inprogress almost half satelite, so they are rounder and face forward, and she wouldn't know it was for batman, all of it would look different b/c she's stealing prototype equipment.

[Timstuff]

Even so, I think Catwoman should have a fairly minimalist approach towards her burglaries. Her goggles could have IR to help her around security systems, but she seems like the kind of thief who would trust her body a lot more than she'd trust high tech gadgets.

[yoshimura]

Going along with the wealthy madam (prostitue/pimp)

she should be into S&M, hence the costume. It wouldn't be a primary focus, but I remember Bale saying that he wanted to explore the sexual side of things.

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[Timstuff]

Just say no to dominatrix Catwoman.

Especially after that awful Halle Berry fiasco.

[jmc]

Regarding Catwoman, I don't think her origin needs to be laid out in any great detail, but I think it should be hinted at, that all was not good for her growing up and leave it somewhat open to the audience as to how they interpret it.

[jmc]

Just say no to dominatrix Catwoman.

Especially after that awful Halle Berry fiasco.

Totally agree, no dominatrix Catwoman.

[Timstuff]

Regarding Catwoman, I don't think her origin needs to be laid out in any great detail, but I think it should be hinted at, that all was not good for her growing up and leave it somewhat open to the audience as to how they interpret it.

I think that one way they could potentially hint at some of Selina's backstory would be to have a scene where she goes to Arkham to get some info out of her deadbeat biological father, Carmine Falcone. They could say a lot about Selina's past just by dropping a few lines, like how Selina was "a dirty little orphan from the narrows," and "did you really think a teenage girl could rob the Falcones and get off Scott free?"

[flickchick85]

I don't think she needs much of a backstory. I always thought of her as a socialite who steals from all of her greedy social peers because A.) she's a thrill-seeker who's quite proud of the skills she's honed, B.) She believes her cause (whatever it is, something to do with cats, maybe) is a more noble and worthy use of the wealth and C.) She's a free-spirit who hates her social peers, including Bruce Wayne (who of course is totally infatuated with her), until she figures out he's Batman, of course. I'd like to see her eventually agree to date Bruce because she figures out his true identity (a conspicuous scar after a tussle with Batman, perhaps?) and have her fall for the real Bruce, behind the mask, while Bruce falls for her totally oblivious to the fact that she's Catwoman.

I think that whole "Bruce loves Selina, Selina/Catwoman loves Batman/the real Bruce, Batman sees Catwoman only as a criminal" dynamic could be very potent stuff. Especially at the end when Bruce learns the truth, and especially in the hands of a filmmaker like Nolan. Selina could even offer to (try to) give up her criminal ways for him at the end, but he'd insist she pay for her crimes.

As for casting, my constantly changing top choices are currently Marion Cotillard and Charlize Theron.

[jackshea]

nolan goes for talent, then looks, my money is on rachel weisz.

[Timstuff]

The complexity of Catwoman and Batman's relationship is easily the most intriguing aspect of it, and the more complications you can find for it, the more interesting it becomes. I definitely like the idea of Catwoman finding out Batman's true identity before he finds out hers, because it's a bit different from the typical C/B story stucture, and it adds another ethical dilemma for Batman when he finds out her identity. The "letter of the law" says he should turn her in, but that may not necessarily be the right thing to do, since Selina already knew his secret and kept it faithfully.

Also, there's another moral / ethical dilemma that would be similar to what Batman and Gordon were discussing at the end of TDK in regards to Harvey Dent's legacy. Although some of Selina's reasons for being a thief were selfish, a lot of the money she took would have been used to fund her charity interests. If the authorities find out that Selina's charities were being funded with stolen money, it could potentially do a lot of harm to Gotham's poor. Just as Catwoman exists in a gray area of right and wrong, so would the answer to whether or not Batman should turn her in.

[jmc]

I think that one way they could potentially hint at some of Selina's backstory would be to have a scene where she goes to Arkham to get some info out of her deadbeat biological father, Carmine Falcone. They could say a lot about Selina's past just by dropping a few lines, like how Selina was "a dirty little orphan from the narrows," and "did you really think a teenage girl could rob the Falcones and get off Scott free?"

I've never liked the whole Falcone being her father angle they tried, I was thinking more of what she says (or doesn't say) to Bruce, an inability to tell him about her past.

[Sloth7d]

Going along with the wealthy madam (prostitue/pimp)

she should be into S&M, hence the costume. It wouldn't be a primary focus, but I remember Bale saying that he wanted to explore the sexual side of things.

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That's pretty much how I see it going down. I hope Nolan goes with this, but eitherway, I trust his decision.

Just say no to dominatrix Catwoman.

Especially after that awful Halle Berry fiasco.

Halle Berry was no where near being even close to any representation of any version of Catwoman ever, especially dominatrix Catwoman. No man. Just no.

[Timstuff]

The thing is, I already hated the idea of Selina Kyle going from dominatrix to cat burglar (seriously, what does beating up men with no self esteem for money have in common with sneaking into high security facilities and homes, anyway?), but the fact that Halle Berry's version of Catwoman was so blatantly dominatrix themed turned me off to the idea even more than I had been initially. I don't like the idea of Selina starting off as a prostitute, because it has nothing to do with being an expert cat burglar, and I feel like it cheapens her character.

I look at it more like this: Selina knew she was in trouble when she landed on the streets, but she refused to earn her meals by being a slave to a bunch of piggish men. So instead, she decided she'd simply take whatever she needed or wanted. It started off with picking pockets, and eventually she was breaking and entering. That's how you go from a street orphan to a world class jewel thief. The only reason that Selina was ever depicted as a prostitute was because Frank Millar felt like her character wasn't dirty enough to work with the stories he was writing, and in later years he actually stated that he now thinks it was a mistake. Just don't do it, that's what I say.

[Sloth7d]

Halle Berry's Catwoman was dominatrix themed? Since... when? She had very normal sex with Benjamin Bratt.

[Timstuff]

I'm referring to her costume, which was awful. But even if it was just a crappy dominatrix-themed costume, it was enough to make me like the idea of a dominatrix Catwoman even less than I already did (as in, I went from hating it to loathing it).

BTW, I think that a lot of people have a general misunderstanding of the psychology behind prostitution. If Catwoman really were a former prostitute, he relations with Batman would be much different. Selina Kyle is constantly portrayed as having an infatuation with Batman, but the reality is that prostitutes have almost no interest in sex whatsoever. This also means that the much hyped "animalistic libido" that many fanboys daydream about Catwoman having would not exist at all. In most cases, in fact, prostitutes hate sex, and if they didn't need the money they'd probably never have it.

The simple fact of the matter is that prostitutes are not horny at all. If you want a "realistic" Catwoman who's also a former prostitute, she's not going to be like the Catwoman we know. If you want a Catwoman like the one from the comics, you're better off just making her a life long professional thief instead of all this nonsense about being a prostitute turned masked avenger.

[jmc]

I'm doubtful they would go with the former prostitute angle, it's never really been accepted as her origin.

[Sloth7d]

I'm referring to her costume, which was awful. But even if it was just a crappy dominatrix-themed costume, it was enough to make me like the idea of a dominatrix Catwoman even less than I already did (as in, I went from hating it to loathing it).

But it looks nothing like the costume Catwoman wore in her dominatrix days, so I really don't see how that affects your decision to exclude dominatrix Catwoman. Pretty much everything from that movie should be ignored as having anything to do with DC comic's Catwoman.

BTW, I think that a lot of people have a general misunderstanding of the psychology behind prostitution. If Catwoman really were a former prostitute, he relations with Batman would be much different. Selina Kyle is constantly portrayed as having an infatuation with Batman, but the reality is that prostitutes have almost no interest in sex whatsoever. This also means that the much hyped "animalistic libido" that many fanboys daydream about Catwoman having would not exist at all. In most cases, in fact, prostitutes hate sex, and if they didn't need the money they'd probably never have it.

The simple fact of the matter is that prostitutes are not horny at all. If you want a "realistic" Catwoman who's also a former prostitute, she's not going to be like the Catwoman we know. If you want a Catwoman like the one from the comics, you're better off just making her a life long professional thief instead of all this nonsense about being a prostitute turned masked avenger.

Isn't that a generalization, though? You don't think there's even one prostitute who likes sex? Not even one? Or at least one who could actually develope an obsession over one person?

[Leenie]

I'd like to see Catwoman in the third Batman film. I think that with Nolan's "realism" and whatnot, Catwoman would be one of the easier characters to adapt on the big screen.

Especially with Rachel dying in The Dark Knight, I think it's time for Batman to get a new love interest. I think it's the next logical step to take.

[jaymes_e06]

I think Selina Kyle would fit in quite well with Nolan's universe. I think though that her origin needs to echo that of The Jokers, clouded in mystery. You don't really know who she is but she is sexy black leather wearing jewel theif.

[The Dutch Hulk]

I will go 100% for Charlize Theron...my god she looks so good in Hancock, black, oohhh and a good actress too :woot:

My heart almost stopped when i saw her it that black outfit and a bit on the heavy make-up. :grin:

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[Timstuff]

Isn't that a generalization, though? You don't think there's even one prostitute who likes sex? Not even one? Or at least one who could actually develope an obsession over one person?

Actually, there was. Her name was Aileen Wuornos, but she wasn't into men. :o

[flickchick85]

And guess who's already played her in a movie? Coincidence? Oh, wait, yes it is.

I really hope they don't go with that prostitution angle. It just sounds so...contrived. It just sounds like they'd be trying too hard to get the audience's sympathy, and she doesn't need it. Instead, the audience can empathize with her because they can see she has noble intentions, has the same view on the socialite crowd (that she steals from) as we do, and oh yeah, she's fun to have around. Plus, they can show us that she genuinely does love Bruce, and is the closest thing to his equal (intellectual & physical) that we'll ever see. That's more than enough to get the audience on her side, without some "pity me" prostitution backstory.

I dunno, I just don't think she should be "damaged" like Bruce. She does what she does because she thinks it's right, and because she likes it. And she can prove that Bruce is the same, and not just avenging his parents still after all this time.

[jmc]

And guess who's already played her in a movie? Coincidence? Oh, wait, yes it is.

I really hope they don't go with that prostitution angle. It just sounds so...contrived. It just sounds like they'd be trying too hard to get the audience's sympathy, and she doesn't need it. Instead, the audience can empathize with her because they can see she has noble intentions, has the same view on the socialite crowd (that she steals from) as we do, and oh yeah, she's fun to have around. Plus, they can show us that she genuinely does love Bruce, and is the closest thing to his equal (intellectual & physical) that we'll ever see. That's more than enough to get the audience on her side, without some "pity me" prostitution backstory.

I agree I don't think the prostitute angle is the way to go, it's not really the character, in fact I think it makes her a better character in that she didn't resort to prostitution despite having to grow up in the street.

I dunno, I just don't think she should be "damaged" like Bruce. She does what she does because she thinks it's right, and because she likes it. And she can prove that Bruce is the same, and not just avenging his parents still after all this time.

I think the character needs some level of 'damage' as it were, but keeps it well hidden, more so than Bruce. I think there should be those moments where likes what she's doing, but there should also be fleeting moments where we see cracks starting to appear, I think the ideal story for her is that she's someone who's looked out for only herself for so long and never trusted people, suddenly her world changes with Bruce and starts trusting again only then to find out he's Batman, it makes for interesting conflict.

[DesertBat86]

my choice for catwoman

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[The Riddler]

my choice for catwoman

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i actually agree. plus, she has some action background, so you know she's up for the physicality of the part.

[spiderfan970]

I'm going to go out on a weird limb here...Marion Cotillard?

She has kind of an accent...but I mean most of the actors have accents that they change to American for the film. My other idea that I haven't seen suggested is Monica Bellucci...but I'm not entirely sure that she can act at all.

[jmc]

We've already got a casting thread for Catwoman on page two.

[warren_sparta27]

Yeah guys i thought this was more of a character wish list for Catwoman, her personality, motives, background, goals, and that kinda stuff rather than a who do you want to play Catwoman.

[Doc Block]

Haha Catwoman as a prostitute. While we're at it, let's make Bruce Wayne the Hugh Hefner of Gotham City. He's got the mansion.

I do think Catwoman would be a perfect villain for the next movie. Nolan doesn't need to change her character at all- keep her as a cat burglar. All the villains Nolan has showed us so far, aside from Two-Face, have been pretty clear cut evil antagonists. Being such a gray area on the morality scale, and a romantic interest at that, she could really throw a monkey wrench in Batman's perception of right and wrong. Especially now that Batman himself will be viewed as a villain by the people of Gotham.

I like the idea that she sees Gotham as "haves" vs. "have nots." And whoever said that she steals from mobsters, the undeserving, and the spoiled rich, you're spot on. It makes me toy with the idea of Catwoman ripping off Wayne Mansion. Who comes off as undeserving of his fortune more than Bruce Wayne?

Bruce: Why am I eating with a plastic fork?
Alfred: ***** jacked our silverware!

[jaymes_e06]

I'm going to go out on a weird limb here...Marion Cotillard?

She has kind of an accent...but I mean most of the actors have accents that they change to American for the film. My other idea that I haven't seen suggested is Monica Bellucci...but I'm not entirely sure that she can act at all.
Agreed. She has the talent and the look of Selina Kyle.

[jaymes_e06]

Haha Catwoman as a prostitute. While we're at it, let's make Bruce Wayne the Hugh Hefner of Gotham City. He's got the mansion.

I do think Catwoman would be a perfect villain for the next movie. Nolan doesn't need to change her character at all- keep her as a cat burglar. All the villains Nolan has showed us so far, aside from Two-Face, have been pretty clear cut evil antagonists. Being such a gray area on the morality scale, and a romantic interest at that, she could really throw a monkey wrench in Batman's perception of right and wrong. Especially now that Batman himself will be viewed as a villain by the people of Gotham.

I like the idea that she sees Gotham as "haves" vs. "have nots." And whoever said that she steals from mobsters, the undeserving, and the spoiled rich, you're spot on. It makes me toy with the idea of Catwoman ripping off Wayne Mansion. Who comes off as undeserving of his fortune more than Bruce Wayne?

Bruce: Why am I eating with a plastic fork?
Alfred: ***** jacked our silverware!
Exactly! She can be the one to tempt him with his morality and make him see that they only think of him as a villian so he might as well be one. They haven't really explored that yet in the Nolan movies and would be cool to see.

[The Riddler]

jennifer connelly?

[StorminNorman]

Shannyn Sossoman

[solidsnake86]

I'm just hoping Nolan goes for a woman who is stunning and not someone like kate blanchett. I'm a fan of Beckinsale, but lets face it, when has anyone actually guessed right on who should play a character except for bale of course. The most popular actress will probably be jolie but I'm thinking (if she is in the movie, which I really hope she is, also cause it would draw in the audience) the choice will come out of left field. All I know is that every actress in Hollywood will want that role.

[Phoenix_Flare]

I would love to see Catwoman brought yet again to the big screen, but I dont want a A-Lister to portray her...look wat BB did for Bale, Im sure a unknown actress would the same for her...

As far as the storyline goes they should stick w/her original origin since Carmine Falcony was introduced in BB, but I always thought her alter ego should be kept secret from the audience as well as Batman...I think the mysterious 'tween both Bats n Cats is what makes their relationship so seductive...in B3 we should be introduced to the Catwoman persona, but it should be a mystery to who actually is Catwoman...

[marukisu]

This is merely a rumor but Sarah Michelle Gellar may be a upcoming female character in a Batman movie

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=410911

In terms of what i think about this the three locgical choices for a female in the next Batman: Harley, Ivy, and Selena


I want her to be Ivy

Logically Selena would be the one to be intorduced in the next movie

Harley is nothing without the Joker to make her that way and i doubt They will recast to include Harley.

Selena fits more with Nolans universe and makes the most since so......idk.

Luckily this is all just a rumor. So theres nothing to worry about as of yet. This is just something to consider.

[jaymes_e06]

I am Sarahs like numero uno fan but I'm not sure she fits in the Nolan universe. That said I agree that Ivy would be the role that fit her most.

[marukisu]

yea Ivy fits her most. There was also a rumor going around beofre TDK was released that she was in talks to play Harley.

[Majik1387]

That article is over a year old...

[marukisu]

That article is over a year old...


whoops didnt see that de there he he heh:o

[batboy99]

that is a very old rumour. Look at the date. I remember hearing about that too.

[batboy99]

that is a very old rumour. Look at the date. I remember hearing about that too.

[batboy99]

that is a very old rumour. Look at the date. I remember hearing about that too.

[flickchick85]

Thank God that was just a rumor. I mean, I loved Buffy and I think SMG is underrated, but there's no way I could see her fitting into the Nolanverse.

[marukisu]

Thank God that was just a rumor. I mean, I loved Buffy and I think SMG is underrated, but there's no way I could see her fitting into the Nolanverse.

Why not?

[Timstuff]

I could have bought her as Harley Quinn, but that's probably out of the picture at this point.

I'm personally going to try and be open minded about who they cast as Selina, because like Phoenix said, Christian Bale's name didn't mean much unless you were a film geek (or a girl who absolutely loves Newsies), but he was still perfect for the role. I'm not necessarily advocating an unknown though, because I'd like to see an actress who's got some indie cred. I'm not sure who that'll be, but it's probably not going to be someone as mainstream as "the big three" (Angelina Jolie, Kate Beckinsale, and Charlize Theron).

[Sloth7d]

I could've bought her as Batgirl, but we all know she'll never be introduced to the franchise, at least not as Batgirl.

[Antithesis_SD]

Am I the only person around here that does NOT want Selina Kyle/Catwoman in the third movie?

I mean, logically Batman III will pick up with Batman on the run and still grieving over Rachel. (sorry, not sure if I'm allowed spoilers yet?). I doubt he'd at all even consider Selina Kyle as a love interest in his hectic life.

And Catwoman herself... I just don't picture her fitting in with Nolan's Batman universe.

[flickchick85]

Why not?
Because, IMO, she's best in two situations: A.) grounding the fantastical with some light-hearted quippiness, and B.) Bringing some gravitas to an otherwise light-hearted group. When she's surrounded by gritty realism and masters of gravitas, I think she'd come across as a bit of a light-weight. Mainly in her natural voice and line delivery. I just don't see her fitting in.

[Laderlappen]

I'm going to go out on a weird limb here...Marion Cotillard?

She has kind of an accent...but I mean most of the actors have accents that they change to American for the film. My other idea that I haven't seen suggested is Monica Bellucci...but I'm not entirely sure that she can act at all.Yes it is unusual to suggest a great actress on a Batman board. Just look at your other example. You even say you're not sure she can even act.

[magicangel1989]

Two words. Angelina Jolie.

[elgato]

she was born to be catwoman but her time has passed away, sorry dude

[Sloth7d]

Why do you say that? She could still do it. However, I just doubt Nolan would pick such an obvious choice.

[Micah12345]

Angelina is not a good actor. I would hate to see the part wasted on her.

[Nepenthes]

whereas Charlize Theron IS an amazing actress who is also athletic, high profile, dangerous and beautiful

[Majik1387]

Yet still a bad choice for Selina/Catwoman

[Sloth7d]

Angelina is not a good actor. I would hate to see the part wasted on her.

What? Have you not seen A Mighty Heart and Girl Interrupted?

[solidsnake86]

I know some people think that Catwoman isn't a good idea. I really think she is needed for 2 reasons. The first is that she provides and interesting dynamic for Wayne and Batman. The Second is that she happens to be one of the most popular characters in his universe that would attract a lot of the general audience to see the movie. Now before you say people went to go see the dark knight look at who the villain was, namely the joker. I really hope if she is in the film that Nolan doesn't choose someone like Hillary Swank, although she is a great actress I think whoever plays her needs to be stunning.

[The Dutch Hulk]

I WANT CHARLIZE THERON DAMNED :woot:

PS as Catwoman

[jaymes_e06]

Does that ^ mean you want her or don't?? :huh:

[marukisu]

Am I the only person around here that does NOT want Selina Kyle/Catwoman in the third movie?

I mean, logically Batman III will pick up with Batman on the run and still grieving over Rachel. (sorry, not sure if I'm allowed spoilers yet?). I doubt he'd at all even consider Selina Kyle as a love interest in his hectic life.

And Catwoman herself... I just don't picture her fitting in with Nolan's Batman universe.


Actually it makes alot of sense considering he lost Rachel and a new girl that is introduced like Selena makes sense since she goe aound in a costume like him.

[flickchick85]

Having seen A Mighty Heart and Girl Interrupted, along with Monster and other Charlize movies, I have to agree that Angelina can be very good (when directors actually get her to act), but Charlize is definitely the more talented actress. So I'd greatly prefer Charlize in this role.

And not only do I think Catwoman could work in the 3rd movie, I think she would seem like a natural progression in Batman's story. But I agree that Bruce needs time to mourn Rachel, which is why I think the 3rd one should take place at least a year after TDK. I posted this on another board when discussing possible themes for the 3rd one, but I'll repost it here:

As for themes for the next one, I pretty much agree with the "redemption" idea. It seems like the next logical step. But here's how I'd go about it: Obviously, Batman will want to earn back the faith of the people of Gotham. That's practically a given. But I like this idea of Batman being "the villain." Like Alfred was concerned about in Begins, he's "getting lost inside this monster" of his. I'm not saying he'll cross his ethical line or even come close. That's not what I'm talking about - that's what TDK is about. Nolan loves obsessives. It's his one constant in all of his movies. What I'm proposing is, Bruce will become more obsessed with Batman's duties, trying to restore his name, and the person that is Bruce Wayne will start to get lost. Batman will become some sort of penance Bruce will feel like he has to pay. For Harvey, for Rachel, for his parents, everyone he feels he let down. He starts to see it as his eternal punishment.

Then, in comes Catwoman, a different kind of vigilante. A cat burglar who robs from the undeserving rich (her social peers) and uses the money to support her various charities. She's honed her skills just like Batman, and she genuinely LOVES what she does. Not just because she thinks it makes the world better, because she also loves the thrill. And as soon as she meets Batman, she thinks they are two of a kind, and she wants to show him the light - the fun side of things. She thinks he should enjoy and feel good about himself just like her. He shuns her of course, because to him, Catwoman is simply a criminal. Meanwhile, Selena Kyle catches Bruce Wayne's attention (due to being the COMPLETE opposite of other socialite women, having obvious disdain for him and everyone in that world), and she's bored to tears by him...UNTIL she figures out he's Batman, which I'd expect her to do early on (a telling scar from a rooftop battle or something). Then, Selina starts to break down the walls to the real Bruce Wayne, and without giving away that she knows he's Batman (maybe a few choice debates about "The Batman"), starts making him see things in a whole new light. She makes him take pride in what he does again, and feel good about it. Bring him out of his funk, essentially. All the while, of course, Bruce falls for Selena, clueless that she's masquerading around at night as what he considers to be a common criminal. But the point is, by the end of the 3rd movie, the "dawn" that Harvey predicted in TDK would finally arrive, and Batman is newly assured, proud of who he is and what he's accomplished, and ready to be Gotham's protector. Not because he feels he has to anymore, but because he wants to.

And I think Catwoman is the perfect character to get him there. Obviously, by the end, though, he'd discover who she is, and insist that she pay for her crimes, even if she offers to give up her criminal ways and become more like him. Not sure how faithful that is to the comics, but if I remember correctly, it's at least very close to what happened in the animated series. Oh, and it should go without saying that during all of this, there's another, real criminal threat in Gotham that he's dealing with, which is probably why he hasn't yet caught Catwoman - not top priority. But in dealing with this other threat, he also becomes redeemed in the eyes of Gotham's citizens. And boom - social, existential, total redemption.

[jmc]

^ I like the basic idea, but I think the whole 'showing the light' has to work for both Bruce and Selina I feel, other wise it's one way traffic, if it's a film about redemption, then that theme needs to be part of her story too. Would she give up her criminal ways? Is it faithful the comics? Debatable, it depends on the story, if film one was Batman Begins and film two was Rise of the Joker then film three could conceivably be Catwoman Ends, has a nice arc to it, having said that though, I think a more tragic way would be if she wants to give up but is forced to stay on the run to avoid arrest.

[flickchick85]

^Good point. I think that makes it all the more important to see Catwoman at least TRY to give up her criminal ways for Bruce. But if you want tragic (which, I must admit I kinda do too), maybe the thing that gets her caught by Batman in the end is that she gives up her biggest score yet, which she's been planning from the start, in order to help (save?) Batman in the climactic showdown with the main villain. Together, they of course win, but he doesn't let her go, and then he discovers she's Selina. She tries to explain that all of the good she's worked for (mainly her charities) will crumble if she's sent to jail, and she offers to give up the crime and join him in fighting it, but he insists she go prison and pay for her crimes. Then he could tie her up and leave her for the cops. They could even have her notice a way to escape before the cops arrive (perhaps he left it for her?)...but she doesn't take it. So it could end with Selina facing her worst nightmare - a cage. And Bruce takes the reigns on her charities, causing a media frenzy about Bruce's new direction: philanthropist (?).

That would be pretty tragic, I think. Catwoman is redeemed in Bruce's eyes, especially if he left her an escape and she didn't take it, and now they can't be together.

[Majik1387]

^Good point. I think that makes it all the more important to see Catwoman at least TRY to give up her criminal ways for Bruce. But if you want tragic (which, I must admit I kinda do too), maybe the thing that gets her caught by Batman in the end is that she gives up her biggest score yet, which she's been planning from the start, in order to help (save?) Batman in the climactic showdown with the main villain. Together, they of course win, but he doesn't let her go, and then he discovers she's Selina. She tries to explain that all of the good she's worked for (mainly her charities) will crumble if she's sent to jail, and she offers to give up the crime and join him in fighting it, but he insists she go prison and pay for her crimes. Then he could tie her up and leave her for the cops. They could even have her notice a way to escape before the cops arrive (perhaps he left it for her?)...but she doesn't take it. So it could end with Selina facing her worst nightmare - a cage. And Bruce takes the reigns on her charities, causing a media frenzy about Bruce's new direction: philanthropist (?).

That would be pretty tragic, I think. Catwoman is redeemed in Bruce's eyes, especially if he left her an escape and she didn't take it, and now they can't be together.
I actually really truly LOVE this idea.:heart:

[jaymes_e06]

^Me too. Everything sounds so good!

[flickchick85]

Aw, thanks guys. Glad you like it!

[Johnny Drama]

^Good point. I think that makes it all the more important to see Catwoman at least TRY to give up her criminal ways for Bruce. But if you want tragic (which, I must admit I kinda do too), maybe the thing that gets her caught by Batman in the end is that she gives up her biggest score yet, which she's been planning from the start, in order to help (save?) Batman in the climactic showdown with the main villain. Together, they of course win, but he doesn't let her go, and then he discovers she's Selina. She tries to explain that all of the good she's worked for (mainly her charities) will crumble if she's sent to jail, and she offers to give up the crime and join him in fighting it, but he insists she go prison and pay for her crimes. Then he could tie her up and leave her for the cops. They could even have her notice a way to escape before the cops arrive (perhaps he left it for her?)...but she doesn't take it. So it could end with Selina facing her worst nightmare - a cage. And Bruce takes the reigns on her charities, causing a media frenzy about Bruce's new direction: philanthropist (?).

That would be pretty tragic, I think. Catwoman is redeemed in Bruce's eyes, especially if he left her an escape and she didn't take it, and now they can't be together.

This is such a good idea. I would LOVE the film to go in that direction.
So romantic yet tragic, it really showcases the complexities of Bruce and Selina's relationship.

[elgato]

You're good at that flick chick I love your ideas

[Nepenthes]

Having seen A Mighty Heart and Girl Interrupted, along with Monster and other Charlize movies, I have to agree that Angelina can be very good (when directors actually get her to act), but Charlize is definitely the more talented actress. So I'd greatly prefer Charlize in this role.

And not only do I think Catwoman could work in the 3rd movie, I think she would seem like a natural progression in Batman's story. But I agree that Bruce needs time to mourn Rachel, which is why I think the 3rd one should take place at least a year after TDK. I posted this on another board when discussing possible themes for the 3rd one, but I'll repost it here:

As for themes for the next one, I pretty much agree with the "redemption" idea. It seems like the next logical step. But here's how I'd go about it: Obviously, Batman will want to earn back the faith of the people of Gotham. That's practically a given. But I like this idea of Batman being "the villain." Like Alfred was concerned about in Begins, he's "getting lost inside this monster" of his. I'm not saying he'll cross his ethical line or even come close. That's not what I'm talking about - that's what TDK is about. Nolan loves obsessives. It's his one constant in all of his movies. What I'm proposing is, Bruce will become more obsessed with Batman's duties, trying to restore his name, and the person that is Bruce Wayne will start to get lost. Batman will become some sort of penance Bruce will feel like he has to pay. For Harvey, for Rachel, for his parents, everyone he feels he let down. He starts to see it as his eternal punishment.

Then, in comes Catwoman, a different kind of vigilante. A cat burglar who robs from the undeserving rich (her social peers) and uses the money to support her various charities. She's honed her skills just like Batman, and she genuinely LOVES what she does. Not just because she thinks it makes the world better, because she also loves the thrill. And as soon as she meets Batman, she thinks they are two of a kind, and she wants to show him the light - the fun side of things. She thinks he should enjoy and feel good about himself just like her. He shuns her of course, because to him, Catwoman is simply a criminal. Meanwhile, Selena Kyle catches Bruce Wayne's attention (due to being the COMPLETE opposite of other socialite women, having obvious disdain for him and everyone in that world), and she's bored to tears by him...UNTIL she figures out he's Batman, which I'd expect her to do early on (a telling scar from a rooftop battle or something). Then, Selina starts to break down the walls to the real Bruce Wayne, and without giving away that she knows he's Batman (maybe a few choice debates about "The Batman"), starts making him see things in a whole new light. She makes him take pride in what he does again, and feel good about it. Bring him out of his funk, essentially. All the while, of course, Bruce falls for Selena, clueless that she's masquerading around at night as what he considers to be a common criminal. But the point is, by the end of the 3rd movie, the "dawn" that Harvey predicted in TDK would finally arrive, and Batman is newly assured, proud of who he is and what he's accomplished, and ready to be Gotham's protector. Not because he feels he has to anymore, but because he wants to.

And I think Catwoman is the perfect character to get him there. Obviously, by the end, though, he'd discover who she is, and insist that she pay for her crimes, even if she offers to give up her criminal ways and become more like him. Not sure how faithful that is to the comics, but if I remember correctly, it's at least very close to what happened in the animated series. Oh, and it should go without saying that during all of this, there's another, real criminal threat in Gotham that he's dealing with, which is probably why he hasn't yet caught Catwoman - not top priority. But in dealing with this other threat, he also becomes redeemed in the eyes of Gotham's citizens. And boom - social, existential, total redemption.

Cool. I'd really like to see your take on other characters.

[jmc]

^Good point. I think that makes it all the more important to see Catwoman at least TRY to give up her criminal ways for Bruce. But if you want tragic (which, I must admit I kinda do too), maybe the thing that gets her caught by Batman in the end is that she gives up her biggest score yet, which she's been planning from the start, in order to help (save?) Batman in the climactic showdown with the main villain. Together, they of course win, but he doesn't let her go, and then he discovers she's Selina. She tries to explain that all of the good she's worked for (mainly her charities) will crumble if she's sent to jail, and she offers to give up the crime and join him in fighting it, but he insists she go prison and pay for her crimes. Then he could tie her up and leave her for the cops. They could even have her notice a way to escape before the cops arrive (perhaps he left it for her?)...but she doesn't take it. So it could end with Selina facing her worst nightmare - a cage. And Bruce takes the reigns on her charities, causing a media frenzy about Bruce's new direction: philanthropist (?).

That would be pretty tragic, I think. Catwoman is redeemed in Bruce's eyes, especially if he left her an escape and she didn't take it, and now they can't be together.

Interesting concept, it's actually more tragic than I would have gone, but still very interesting.

I think the thing I'd do is I'd make it so Catwoman was captured in the middle of the film and have Bruce discover it's Selina after she's in custody. Feeling betrayed by the woman he's fallen for, he tries to move on, only to require her help at the end for the final confrontation with whatever villain it is. Batman would have to break her out but she doesn't want to help him for getting her arrested, Batman reveals his true identity to her, this time it's Selina who feels betrayed and heartbroken by the first person in years she's trusted, she agrees to help in what ever situation it is (maybe even some situation that's close to her heart) because many lives would be at stake, but wants nothing more to do with Bruce afterward. After the final confrontation, she escapes, on the run from the law, but in a final scene Selina and Bruce meet and realize that they've both betrayed the other yet have still feelings for each other, but they can never be together whilst she's on the run, they say their 'I love yous' etc, and part forever.

End credits.......music by Hans Zimmer :woot:

[elgato]

I would love to see this:

Batman is now alone, no Gordon, no Lucius, no Rachel, No Harvey, just Alfred...then he meets Selina Kyle, while he's at Rachel's grave (I think it would be a lot more emotional) and Selina visits Holly's grave (In my story she dies, killed by the mob) she begins talking with him not even knowing he's Bruce Wayne (a la Vicky Vale) and she gets his attention. They encounter again at a her pro-wild life foundation party, he donates a big cheque and invites Selina to have dinner at the re build Wayne Manor.
That same night Batman encounters The Catwoman for the very first time at Sofia Falcone's penthouse, and he tries to fight her at the rooftop, but she kisses him and leaves the scene really fastly. Both Selina and Bruce kiss and fall in love at the dinner in Wayne Manor, while they go to do their night "work" when they realize they are going serious.
At the climax of the movie, Selina and Bruce go to a date and spend the night together, then, Batman and Catwoman make an allegiance to stop the Riddler's murders, when they put him in Arkham, Selina reveals her identity to Bruce and he reveals his to her, then Catwoman jumps from the rooftop, and when she lands in the ground all the street is covered with police cars and they arrest her, she tries to resist to the arrest, so they beat her down and but her in a celd. Then the Riddler and Two Face (who wasn't dead) scape from Arkham Asylum, but Batman knows he can't stop them alone, so he contacts Gordon and asks him to let Selina free with the condition of going with Batman and help him, she's angry, but she knows Batman will get killed if she doesn't help him, so when they put them at Arkham she scapes. At the very end Gotham realizes that they need Batman, Gordon re builds the batsignal and gives him thanks for the things he has done for him. Then after the credits we see Batman standing over the rooftop of a building, Catwoman arrives and they both tell each other they love themselves, and she says: "You will be hearing from me" and jumps from a bulding while Batman watches the Batsignal on the sky

[flickchick85]

Thanks for the positive feedback, guys! Nepenthes, I'd love to give you my take on other characters, but I don't really have any. That's been my scenario for the 3rd movie ever since Begins, but I had assumed the other "main villain" in question would be Two-Face. Now that idea's kind of bunk, and I hadn't even considered how anyone else would fit in there at all. If the rumors about Riddler are true, then I like the idea someone else suggested in the Riddler thread of having the Riddler be someone empowered by the people to help catch Batman, and solve other crimes (which perhaps he himself set up) in an exploitative form of "escalation," like a reality show or something. His whole obsession is to prove his own mental superiority over everyone, and right now, his Mt. Everest is Batman. As I said, this was someone else's idea, but I like the idea of the public empowering him (and the police sanctioning him...at first), and it exploding in their faces horribly when his antics get out of control. Long after his "show" (which, by the way, would give him an excuse to have that costume) is ordered off the air when people become collateral damage, he figures out how to keep it on anyway, and the public couldn't help but watch. Thematically, with Nolan at the helm, it could much better explore the themes of that not-great De Niro movie 15 Minutes, about the public and media's self-destructive obsession with violence and mayhem. Nygma's a classic egomaniac, and they fed his ego, something they can't undo, and he has ZERO regard for their safety. That's when they start to realize they were MUCH better off with Batman as the masked guy on their side rather than this psycho, and they turn to him to save them from the monster THEY created. But that's just one in a million different directions they could go with the Riddler, if they even go with him at all.

And jmc, as I've said before, my one real influence is the animated series, and in that, Selina does her time in jail, and is let out eventually on good behavior. Batman is there to try to help her get back on her feet and walk the straight and narrow. So maybe that's why I don't see her going to jail as being "too tragic," and rather, "just tragic enough." Actually, in the 4th installment I'd like a scene with Bruce visiting her in prison, just to let us know he hasn't forgotten her. For anyone who watched the TV show Angel, I'm thinking it's just like Angel making regular visits to Faith in prison. Just good for the soul. If they can get a 30-second cameo from Cillian Murphy in TDK, it doesn't seem unrealistic to think they could do it with whoever plays Catwoman for #4. But when she finally is released, it doesn't take long for freedom and temptation to get the better of her, and she'll return to her old ways. This time, she won't go to jail, and she and Bruce will have to part ways again, this time with her on the run. She still has noble intentions, and he still doesn't approve of her ways.

Your scenario is interesting, too, though. I'd still prefer Selina knowing Bruce's true identity first, just because it would be a nice change to have the love interest being the one who's steps ahead of the hero for once. It makes her a more formidable match for him, imo. But to each their own. Oh, and I'd change that ending to "Music by James Newton Howard," but that's me. :D

[Timstuff]

I'm a bit confused as to the status of Catwoman's "secret" identity in the comics, but I'm pretty sure that it's officially "secret" at this point (though I'm pretty sure her cover has been blown in the past).

I think that the way to end Batman 3, if Selina is involved, is to leave it somewhat open ended. Batman and Selina would both know each other's identities and feelings, but there's still a few roadblocks keeping them apart. Selina implies that she wants to go "legit," but Batman feels like she can't be trusted unless she comes clean to the authorities. Selina doesn't think that that's fair, especially since Batman has also broken laws and yet remains protective of his own identity. Selina could tell Bruce something along the lines of "If you ever feel like we can make this work, I'll be around." and then disappears into the night, leaving Bruce to contemplate.

Really, I think that that sums up pretty well the nature of their relationship. It's very difficult, because they're both so close to walking the same line, but if they really want to be together, at least one of them is going to have to compromise. Will it be Catwoman, who comes clean, turns herself in, and pays for the crimes she's committed? Or will it be Batman, who accepts Catwoman for who she is, even if that means protecting her from the law for what she's done in the past? It's one of those things that I think would best be left to the audience to decide (or future movies, assuming they use Nolan's trilogy as background).

[jmc]

^ That's pretty much it.

[GarzaUK]

It would be interesting if Selina Kyle became Bruce Wayne's new rival, at least for Gotham's hearts. A rags to riches, American dream self-made woman vs the spolit brat of a great family. A princess of Gotham who gives to charity.

I could see Selina Kyle walk into one of Bruce's Parties eying up all the valuables and all the men eyeing her up including Bruce. Selina rebuffs his advances thinking him as some spoilt rich boy.
It would be class to see Bruce Wayne, no costume, no gadgets against catwomen, mano vs womano so to speak when she tries to steal from him.
She escapes, but she realises she misjudged Bruce Wayne and is curious about him. They hang out we get to hear her troubled history, her rags to riches story. Rather than sell her body for money to survive she needed to steal and then later street fight for money, honing her skills. Maybe she feels society owes her something for the crappy life she had. Myabe she was inspired by Batman and lost her way a bit.

You know Casiono Royale, how at the start of the movie how that African bomb maker moved, dodged obstables and doing moves that were borderline impossible. I would LOVE to see Catwomen do that!!

As for casting her, im going to go for someone different for a laugh, rather than all the Jolies and Therons of the day.

Chyler Leigh

http://lh6.ggpht.com/arigo89/SChCDhbX8hI/AAAAAAAAI8Y/lmecFHircpg/15896_gfd_l3.jpg?imgmax=400
http://lh6.ggpht.com/karinawojtal/RuQ3i7WWmCI/AAAAAAAACTo/2rQ3VSbuj3E/getimagezs8.jpg?imgmax=512

[Johnny Drama]

I am glad to see someone else on the planet knows her.
she is hot. I can definitley see it.

[elgato]

Do you guys have any sketches with your designs or something like that? y'know, manips, drawings...

[flickchick85]

GarzaUK, it's like you were reading my mind with wanting Catwoman to study freerunning/parkour (like the bomb maker in Casino Royale)! I thought about that the other day and whole-heartedly agree. It could be one of the things that gives her the upper hand and prevents Batman from capturing her, since I don't think he's ever encountered those skills before. Plus, I've never seen a female freerunner (but I'm sure they're out there), so it would definitely still be something that the audience hasn't quite seen before, too. I'm not familiar with Chyler Leigh, but just going off looks, to me she looks like more of a Batgirl than Catwoman. But it's nice to see some fresh faces thrown into the mix every now and then. :)

Also, I'm not really sure why, but I just saw the Brothers Bloom trailer and it made me really warm up to the idea of Rachel Weisz as Catwoman. Maybe it's just because I've never seen her be so much fun in a role before. Anyway, I'll always think she'd be the perfect Talia Al Ghul, but now I think she's one of my top picks for Catwoman, too. Marion Cotillard, Rachel Weisz, Charlize Theron, or (if they were to want a lesser known option) Sophia Myles all could be great for this role, I think.

[Golgo-13]

This is Nolan we're talking about here. The guy seems to love casting his fellow Brits in these movies, and let's face it, the brits have some pretty spectacular talent. I would prefer a british actress in the role of Catwoman.

Beckinsale, Hurley,to name but a few.

[GarzaUK]

GarzaUK, it's like you were reading my mind with wanting Catwoman to study freerunning/parkour (like the bomb maker in Casino Royale)! I thought about that the other day and whole-heartedly agree. It could be one of the things that gives her the upper hand and prevents Batman from capturing her, since I don't think he's ever encountered those skills before. Plus, I've never seen a female freerunner (but I'm sure they're out there), so it would definitely still be something that the audience hasn't quite seen before, too. I'm not familiar with Chyler Leigh, but just going off looks, to me she looks like more of a Batgirl than Catwoman. But it's nice to see some fresh faces thrown into the mix every now and then. :)

Also, I'm not really sure why, but I just saw the Brothers Bloom trailer and it made me really warm up to the idea of Rachel Weisz as Catwoman. Maybe it's just because I've never seen her be so much fun in a role before. Anyway, I'll always think she'd be the perfect Talia Al Ghul, but now I think she's one of my top picks for Catwoman, too. Marion Cotillard, Rachel Weisz, Charlize Theron, or (if they were to want a lesser known option) Sophia Myles all could be great for this role, I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEeqHj3Nj2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEeqHj3Nj2c

:wow: The Batman would have a very hard time catching that Cat. When I think of Catwoman I think of this (freerunning), throw it a little marital arts and sultry and there you have Catwoman. How awesome would be to see Batman trying to catch Catwomen in the Batpod while she was freerunning!!

Not familiar with Marion Cotillard. Nolan would never pick Theron. I don't know about Weisz, she seems too..... mature for catwoman. Meh, I would trust Nolan whoever he picked anyway.

[jaymes_e06]

This is Nolan we're talking about here. The guy seems to love casting his fellow Brits in these movies, and let's face it, the brits have some pretty spectacular talent. I would prefer a british actress in the role of Catwoman.

Beckinsale, Hurley,to name but a few.
Actually both female leads have been American. Beckinsale maybe...

But Hurley? I think not.

[flickchick85]

GarzaUK, Marion Cotillard was this year's Oscar winner for Best Actress for her AMAZING performance as french singer/cultural icon Edith Piaf. She was made up to look like Piaf in the movie, so was quite homely, but in real life she's actually very pretty. She was Russell Crowe's love interest in A Good Year, and can be seen next year opposite Johnny Depp and our own Mr. Bale in Public Enemies.
Here's what she looks like:
http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/A/_/N/agoodyearpic11.jpg

The only thing working against her is that she's French, and would likely play the role with a French accent, and I know that with bother most purists. But I think it would be great if she managed an American accent for when she's Catwoman and used her natural French one as Selina. That would help disguise her true identity and make it more believable that Bruce doesn't recognize her.

And just out of curiosity, why don't you think Nolan would pick Theron? Not British? Too famous? Otherwise, she's a brilliant actress with I think enough indie cred for Nolan to at least consider her.

And I don't blame you for thinking that way about Rachel Weisz, since I thought the exact same way about her until very recently. Have you seen the Brothers Bloom trailer yet? She's totally goofy and not remotely mature in that. Unless by "mature" you just meant old, in which case, she's only 3 years older than Bale, fyi. :)

[Star]

MMMMMM Catwoman.

[Two-Face]

This is Nolan we're talking about here. The guy seems to love casting his fellow Brits in these movies, and let's face it, the brits have some pretty spectacular talent. I would prefer a british actress in the role of Catwoman.

Beckinsale, Hurley,to name but a few.


Katie Holmes - Batman Begins.

Maggie Gyllenhaal - The Dark Knight

Aaron Eckhart - The Dark Knight

Morgan Freeman - Batman Begins & The Dark Knight

Anthony Michael Hall - The Dark knight

Nestor Carbonell - The Dark Knight

Eric Roberts - The Dark Knight

William Fichtner - The Dark Knight

Mark Boone Junior - Batman Begins

And I'm only listed American actors played in Batman Nolan movies.

[Golgo-13]

Actually both female leads have been American.



Yeah, and they sucked. Get a brit in there.

[Two-Face]

I don't think Maggie G sucked.

[Majik1387]

Umm, Nolan has made other movies where the cast is mainly American.
Memento and Insomnia hardly had any foreign actors, if at all.

[GarzaUK]

GarzaUK, Marion Cotillard was this year's Oscar winner for Best Actress for her AMAZING performance as french singer/cultural icon Edith Piaf. She was made up to look like Piaf in the movie, so was quite homely, but in real life she's actually very pretty. She was Russell Crowe's love interest in A Good Year, and can be seen next year opposite Johnny Depp and our own Mr. Bale in Public Enemies.
Here's what she looks like:
http://www.altfg.com/Stars/g/good-year-marion-cotillard.jpg

The only thing working against her is that she's French, and would likely play the role with a French accent, and I know that with bother most purists. But I think it would be great if she managed an American accent for when she's Catwoman and used her natural French one as Selina. That would help disguise her true identity and make it more believable that Bruce doesn't recognize her.

And just out of curiosity, why don't you think Nolan would pick Theron? Not British? Too famous? Otherwise, she's a brilliant actress with I think enough indie cred for Nolan to at least consider her.

And I don't blame you for thinking that way about Rachel Weisz, since I thought the exact same way about her until very recently. Have you seen the Brothers Bloom trailer yet? She's totally goofy and not remotely mature in that. Unless by "mature" you just meant old, in which case, she's only 3 years older than Bale, fyi. :)

Ah Marion Cotillard yeahhhh now I know who your talking about. Not a bad choice, she definitely looks like her. Problem is French people usually are terrible at American accents, ive not heard a French person do an American accent well. Also if catwoman had a French accent, the fan boys would go nuts, sure they nearly crapped their pants when they found out Joker was not perma-white and Two Face wasn't scarred by acid or Maroni. Besides a Catwoman with a French accent, it would be really easy to find out who it was, particularily if Selina Kyle is a wealthy socialite. But if she could pull a Yankee accent off, I could see it.

Therons is too mainstream, one of the hollywood glamour girls, kinda like Jolie, only not as bad as Jolie.

When I referred to Weisz as being too mature, i wasn't referring to her age. Weisz just seem too "motherly", too "wise", she seems like the sort of woman who goes to her bed at 10pm in her pjs and a hot cup of cocoa rather than be a sultry foxy lady. Weisz is beautiful, but sexy???? hmmmm. She'd be a good Talia.

[flickchick85]

Majik, the lead in Memento was Australian, and the female lead was Canadian. But I agree with your general point. :D

Nolan has no problem casting Americans, and I see no reason why he would refuse to do so for Catwoman IF the actress was right for the part. But as you could see from my list of top candidates, I can't think of any Americans who are (unless you count Charlize, who kinda is, now...).

ETA: Garza, Rachel Weisz has been my top pick for Talia for ages now, so we definitely agree there. And I use to think she seemed to "wise" for Catwoman as well, until I saw this, where she seems to play some kind of immature, naive shut-in:

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[jaymes_e06]

I like Weisz and Marion Cotillard in the role best especially becuase he doesn't cast based apon looks so Weisz "wise" appearance wouldn't bother him to much as long as she can protray Catwoman well. Marion is beautiful and if she could pull off an American accent see no problem in her playing Selina Kyle.

[elgato]

Her accent's not thick at all, she can handle it perfectly with the help of a dialect coach, she has the looks, she has an amazing body, and the most important part she's an outstanding actress, she's definately my number one choice

[Timstuff]

GarzaUK, it's like you were reading my mind with wanting Catwoman to study freerunning/parkour (like the bomb maker in Casino Royale)! I thought about that the other day and whole-heartedly agree. It could be one of the things that gives her the upper hand and prevents Batman from capturing her, since I don't think he's ever encountered those skills before. Plus, I've never seen a female freerunner (but I'm sure they're out there), so it would definitely still be something that the audience hasn't quite seen before, too.

Agreed and double agreed! One thing I've always loved seeing in the comics and cartoons is a good Batman / Catwoman chase scene. Personally, I like it when the chase scenes are given a kind of romantic subtext, as if Catwoman actually enjoys when Batman chases her like it's some kind of foreplay, heheheh. ;)

It would definitely have to be a huge set piece, that's for sure. The parkour / freerunning scene in Casino Royale was amazing, and if that's where the bar has been set then Batman 3 will have a lot to live up to. And I'm quite certain that it can. It's a flavor of action that Nolan's films have not yet attempted, but really it would fit in perfectly. Batman has never had to chase someone who is just as althetic (or possibly moreso) as he is, and seeing that happen would be very cool.

[Golgo-13]

I think Indira Varma would make an awesome Catwoman. She's a great actress. British and Beautiful.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/indira-varma-1.jpg

[Johnny Drama]

I'd hit that

[Timstuff]

She's definitely got very striking facial features. I'm not sure they're what I'd expect from Catwoman, but she's at least good looking. I guess the real question I'd have is, "how does she look in a mask and cat ears?"

BTW, another reason why Catwoman is a logical choice for Batman 3 is because of how Bruce's relationship with Rachel ended. She simply could not share Bruce with his Batman alter ego, and so as long as he was wearing the cowl, she was not going to be part of his life. Selina, on the other hand, actually appreciates Batman as a part of Bruce's life. That's yet another reason why Selina is unique from the run-of-the-mill superhero girlfriend.

[Iron_Stark]

Julie Newmar has said Angelina Jolie has made inquiries about the role.


Hollywood beauty Angelina Jolie (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/) has been tipped to play Catwoman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327554/) in a future Batman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060153/) movie - by the actress who made the role famous, Julie Newmar (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0628325/).
Newmar, 74, prowled across the small screen, playing the feline villain in the 1960s Batman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060153/) television series.
And she would love Jolie to take on the role - if The Dark Knight (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/) director Christopher Nolan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0634240/) decides to resurrect the character in a future sequel.
Newmar tells the New York Daily News, "Angelina would own the part. My industry friends tell me (she) has made inquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327554/) is Batman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060153/)'s one true love. She's tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."
Since Newmar, the Catwoman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327554/) role has been played by Eartha Kitt (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0457755/), Lee Meriwether (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0580886/), Halle Berry (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000932/) and Michelle Pfeiffer (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000201/).


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[batboy99]

I think Indira Varma would make an awesome Catwoman. She's a great actress. British and Beautiful.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/indira-varma-1.jpg
i see talia

[Two-Face]

Julie Newmar has said Angelina Jolie has made inquiries about the role.



[/B]



Get Jolie's agent on the phone, I would love to see Jolie in the role :up:

[Golgo-13]

Let's face it, no matter who WE guess, Nolan will pick someone who's way out of left field, who we can't see as Catwoman...but will knock the performance out the park!

I do think that Catwoman should be a woman that has a strong/aggressive presence, not a typical damsel, or one that 'acts' tough but you can tell she really isn't i.e Jill Wagner in Blade:The Series.....

..based on that i say Lena Headey fits the bill along with my other two picks of Beckinsale, and Varma.

[Two-Face]

Let's face it, no matter who WE guess, Nolan will pick someone who's way out of left field, who we can't see as Catwoman...but will knock the performance out the park!



One can only hope...



I don't want to face it yet.:o

[Johnny Drama]

i see talia


i was thinking that too, she also looks like she could pass for Liam Neesons daughter

[Quinzel]

I agree, Talia would make a better appearance in this movie.

Catwoman has become waay to mainstream and cartoony.

But that's just me.

[Johnny Drama]

I never said I didn't want Catwoman, but I would like a returning Ra's, his daughter Talia and his apprentice Bane to wrap up the trilogy where it started with Bruce and Ra's.
Maybe a returning Two-Face to tie all 3 movies together.

[flickchick85]

Indira Varma was great in Rome, but I agree, she's definitely Talia.

I refuse to believe Nolan would go with Jolie. I just refuse.

Wasn't the Joker mainstream and cartoony until TDK? The general concept behind Catwoman seems the LEAST cartoony in this whole universe to me. She's a catburglar with some skills. That translates to Nolan's world pretty naturally, imo.

[Johnny Drama]

I like your style flickchick.

NO ANGELINA JOLIE!!

[hegele]

Emily Blunt seems like perfect Nolan caliber. Great acting chops. English. Out of left field. Dashingly beautiful. And again, great actress.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/emily-blunt8.jpg

[Laderlappen]

Let's face it, no matter who WE guess, Nolan will pick someone who's way out of left field, who we can't see as Catwoman...but will knock the performance out the park!
We've gone left field to.

[flickchick85]

Thanks Drama, You too. :)

And yeah, Nolan's choice will surprise many, sure. BUT I think it's almost impossible for whoever it is to NOT have been mentioned at least once on these boards. We've covered just about everyone his casting dept. would consider, left, right, and center. That doesn't mean he'll pick one of our favorites, but I'm pretty sure she's in here (or older Catwoman threads) somewhere.

Emily Blunt is awesome, but to me, she's totally Poison Ivy.

[Golgo-13]

Nolan said he picked Heath because of his performance in Brokeback. B3 won't come out until about 2011, i'm sure, so i think Nolan will be watching alot of critically acclaimed films over the next year or two to find his Catwoman.

Still, i'm more worried if Nolan's even coming back at this point.

[batboy99]

Emily Blunt seems like perfect Nolan caliber. Great acting chops. English. Out of left field. Dashingly beautiful. And again, great actress.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/emily-blunt8.jpg
i would love for her to be selina, but the woman just scream pamela isely.

[Golgo-13]

She screams Rachel Dawes wannabe to me...

[Micah12345]

just saw an interview with emily blunt and I'm very picky about my casting choices, but I think she could pull it off.

[Johnny Drama]

She screams Rachel Dawes wannabe to me...


Rachel Dawes was never stacked like that...

[Frodo]

If I had my drothers I'd go with Nolan alum Hillary Swank. She's outta left field but she's a great actress who can bring all the qualities we've seen in the character over the past 70 years . Physically I could believe she could go toe to toe with Bale's Batman . We know that she's dedicated to inhabiting her characters Physically and with the right training she could be formatable . :brucebat:.

[Keyser Soze]

Just want to reiterate a point I've said before. I'm not sure if I even need a Batman 3 - and I'm damn near sure it won't top "The Dark Knight" - but if they do go with a third film, the inclusion of Catwoman is really a no-brainer.

"The Dark Knight" had The Joker, and "Batman Begins" had, well, Batman himself, but aside from those two characters, Selina Kyle is really the only remaining character with the mainstream recognition to generate excitement and anticipation on the same level for the third film. From the rampant speculation on who they'll cast to play her, to the curiosity on how she'll be adapted into Nolan's vision of Gotham.

[COMPO]

yeah she is and they could go with the anti-hero role for her having her protect the East End whilts stealing from the rich.

[Golgo-13]

As anyone considered Michelle Ryan (the Bionic Woman) for Selina Kyle....?

I'd also like to throw Aussie actress Jessica Gower of Blade:The Series into the pot too. :up:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/blade_01_303_404_Warner_Bros_Entert.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/jessica-gower1.jpghttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/jessica-gower.jpg

[jaymes_e06]

I don't know I see more Emma Frost with Jessica.

[batboy99]

that girl isnt too cute. Probably the hair that throws it off,she looks like a playmate with the bad bleach blond hair.

[The Batman]

Just want to reiterate a point I've said before. I'm not sure if I even need a Batman 3 - and I'm damn near sure it won't top "The Dark Knight" - but if they do go with a third film, the inclusion of Catwoman is really a no-brainer.

"The Dark Knight" had The Joker, and "Batman Begins" had, well, Batman himself, but aside from those two characters, Selina Kyle is really the only remaining character with the mainstream recognition to generate excitement and anticipation on the same level for the third film. From the rampant speculation on who they'll cast to play her, to the curiosity on how she'll be adapted into Nolan's vision of Gotham.

Dont forget Riddler and Penguin...both are pretty famous batman villains who could generate excitement...especially riddler...people would want to see who will follow jim carrey in the role

[Nepenthes]

^ but neither the Riddler or Penguin are hot fun loving women.

Just want to reiterate a point I've said before. I'm not sure if I even need a Batman 3 - and I'm damn near sure it won't top "The Dark Knight" - but if they do go with a third film, the inclusion of Catwoman is really a no-brainer.

"The Dark Knight" had The Joker, and "Batman Begins" had, well, Batman himself, but aside from those two characters, Selina Kyle is really the only remaining character with the mainstream recognition to generate excitement and anticipation on the same level for the third film. From the rampant speculation on who they'll cast to play her, to the curiosity on how she'll be adapted into Nolan's vision of Gotham.

thank you.

people seem kinda slow on this don't they. not in this thread but across the rest of the board.


Whoever they cast needs to have a sizzle factor, people need to hear the news and think 'wow' before they've even seen any pictures. I don't think some Indian actress or an Australian from Blade the TV series is gonna do that, it doesn't matter how hot or talented they are, they're unknown. We have to be talking the Charlize Theron, Scarlet Johanson, Alicia Keyes-level names here.

[jaymes_e06]

^Alicia Keys? But I agree and think that all in all Angelian Jolie would sufice to being a perrrrfect Catwoman.

[Timstuff]

If I had my drothers I'd go with Nolan alum Hillary Swank. She's outta left field but she's a great actress who can bring all the qualities we've seen in the character over the past 70 years . Physically I could believe she could go toe to toe with Bale's Batman . We know that she's dedicated to inhabiting her characters Physically and with the right training she could be formatable . :brucebat:.

Huh, she's certainly not the first name that would have popped into my mind, but she's definitely got the acting chops to meet the series' standards, and she's physically capable enough to be believable (I mean, she played a freakin' boxer in Million Dollar Baby).

[batlovescatDC]

I think that Catwoman HAS to be in the next film. She is an inevitable part in Nolan's series. It just severly needs to happen. First of all, Batman and Catwoman tie as my favorite comic book character. I LOVE the story of the relationship/love. Because at first... it just starts off as infatuation but as the story has continued, these two actually love eachother. I once had to do a literature comparison project for a class, where we had to take two different stories from two seperate pieces of literature and compare the two and find how they are really alike. I used Batman and Catwoman's relationship and Shakespeare's tragedies. They're relationship is SO Shakespearean. How they long to be together so badly that it hurts, and yet they never can be. I mean, if you compare the final scene with Batman and Catwoman at the end of Batman Returns and the end of Romeo & Juliet, there are so many likenesses it's not even funny. And just about every element about their relationship in the comics is relatable to Shakespeare. Their relationship is much more of a tragedy than it is a love story, and that is perfect for Nolan, because that is the type of thing that he goes for.

[batlovescatDC]

And as far as who I want to play her, I am all for Scarlett Johansson playing the role. First of all, she has both the look and the chops for the role. And she's already worked with Nolan, Bale, and Caine in The Prestige. She has great on-screen chemistry with Bale, and it would be even more so with Batman and Catwoman. I think that she would be really good at portraying the complexity, and the attitude of both Selina and Catwoman. And she's always had kind of a Michelle Pfeiffer-ish vibe to me, lol.

:brucebat: :batty:

Check out these pics

http://thesuperficial.com/2006/10/25/scarlett_johansson_moet_01-thumb.jpg

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/images/scarlett_johansson_costume_2_small.jpg

[Nepenthes]

I'm actually coming around to Scarlet as well even though I've been against the idea for a while. Actors need to develop, they need movies and directors willing to give them a chance. I'd love to see Scarlet try and play "tough", and I think she could do it providing she understands the character well.

It's actually visualizing her in the role that is a problem for me.

[The Dutch Hulk]

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3598/hancock8ui9.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hancock8ui9.jpg)

[The Caped Knight]

MEOW !!!!!!!!!!!

Catwoman from the upcoming Dc Universe vs. Mortal Combat video game .

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/888/888706/mortal-kombat-vs-dc-universe-20080712094457201_640w.jpg

http://www.worldscollide.com/kombatants/Catwoman_Render.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

On a serious note, I'd like to see Selina Kyle in Nolan's world . As an aristocrat who wealth was gained by being a professional Cat burglar who stole things related to Cats that was worth a fortune (Due to her love of Cats) . Rather than go down burton routh again with Catwoman .

[ultimatefan]

My take is I wanna see a streetwise Catwoman, not necessarily Miller´s dominatrix hooker - doubt WB would go for that, even in Nolan´s Batman world - but definitely not a nerdy secretary turned psychob**** feminist with weird supernatural undertones. I wanna see a burglar and an anti-hero, and the way TDK ends, as a wanted criminal she may be actually the only one who´ll understand Batman´s situation...

Here´s my rundown of the more oft-mentioned actresses:

Angelina Jolie - To me the only con is after Wanted people may be tired of her in action roles, but then again, Will Smith saved the world how many times?

Charlize Theron - Don´t blame her for Aeon Flux, that movie would suck with any actress... I can see it.

Kate Beckinsale - Has some of the qualities, but she´s stated a number of times that has no interest in that kind of role after Van Helsing and the Underworld movies.

Natalie Portman - I have no idea why she keeps being brought up, she´s the last actress in the world I could see as Catwoman. Nothing against Natalie, but she´s way too sweet girl-next-door for this role and every time a director tried to sex her up, it didn´t work.

Christina Ricci - I don´t know her height, but she always comes off quite petite in movies to me.

Scarlett Johannson - Great actress, very sexy, but is kinda petite too.

Eva Mendes - I find her hot, but not quite sold on her as an actress.

[Van Petrol]

Don't know if this has been posted yet.....


Newmar: 'Jolie wants Catwoman role'
Tuesday, July 29 2008, 11:41 BST
By Alex Fletcher, Entertainment Reporter

Actress Julie Newmar has claimed that Angelina Jolie inquired about playing Batman villain Catwoman.

Newmar, who played the character in the 1960s Batman TV series, also argued that Jolie would be the perfect casting for the role.

"Angelina would own the part," Newmar told the New York Daily News. "My industry friends tell me [she] has made inquiries about the role.

"I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love. She's tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

Other actresses that have played Catwoman include Halle Berry, Eartha Kitt, Lee Meriwether and Michelle Pfeiffer.

The Dark Knight writer David Goyer revealed earlier this month that future sequels in the superhero franchise wouldn't involve Catwoman or The Penguin.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a116712/newmar-jolie-wants-catwoman-role.html


Jolie Tipped For Catwoman Role
28 July 2008 9:10 AM, PDT | From wenn.com | See recent WENN news

Hollywood beauty Angelina Jolie has been tipped to play Catwoman in a future Batman movie - by the actress who made the role famous, Julie Newmar.

Newmar, 74, prowled across the small screen, playing the feline villain in the 1960s Batman television series.

And she would love Jolie to take on the role - if The Dark Knight director Christopher Nolan decides to resurrect the character in a future sequel.

Newmar tells the New York Daily News, "Angelina would own the part. My industry friends tell me (she) has made inquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love. She's tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

Since Newmar, the Catwoman role has been played by Eartha Kitt, Lee Meriwether, Halle Berry and Michelle Pfeiffer.

Source: http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0268187/

[jaymes_e06]

^I have to say if she is going after the role then she will probably get it.

[Van Petrol]

I'm not too sure. Many actors were rumoured to be chasing the roles of the Joker and Harvey Dent in TDK but to no avail. Although we do know that Heath chased the role of the Joker and got it.

[Coleman Reese]

Jolie seems too perfect for the role. I think they'll go for a more transformative actress.

[Van Petrol]

I get the same feeling. It would probably seem the most logical choice, but it doesn't feel like a Nolan choice if you know what I mean.

[ultimatefan]

If we are going to think like Nolan, Charlize Theron seems like a logic choice to me. Like Bale or Ledger, she´s respected and critically-acclaimed, but isn´t considered an A-list superstar at the box office.

[Van Petrol]

^ Agreed.

[Nepenthes]

a more transformative actress.

what do you mean?

[Keyser Soze]

MEOW !!!!!!!!!!!

Catwoman from the upcoming Dc Universe vs. Mortal Combat video game .

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/888/888706/mortal-kombat-vs-dc-universe-20080712094457201_640w.jpg

http://www.worldscollide.com/kombatants/Catwoman_Render.jpg

Something interesting I noticed - if you look at the higher-res picture, this Catwoman is quite clearly modelled on Charlize Theron.

[Coleman Reese]

what do you mean?

Like Oldman. Prior to 2005 you would never think of Gary Oldman when the character Gordon was mentioned. In contrast someone like Chris Cooper looks perfect for Gordon. But Oldman became Gordon. So much so that you can't imagine anyone else in the role. That's what I'm getting at. Jolie looks perfect for Catwoman and is the obvious choice. I think it'll be more interesting to find an actress who can transform into Catwoman similar to how Oldman transformed into Gordon.

[Coleman Reese]

Something interesting I noticed - if you look at the higher-res picture, this Catwoman is quite clearly modelled on Charlize Theron.

Very difficult to look at her face in that high res pics.

[Van Petrol]

Like Oldman. Prior to 2005 you would never think of Gary Oldman when the character Gordon was mentioned. In contrast someone like Chris Cooper looks perfect for Gordon. But Oldman became Gordon. So much so that you can't imagine anyone else in the role. That's what I'm getting at. Jolie looks perfect for Catwoman and is the obvious choice. I think it'll be more interesting to find an actress who can transform into Catwoman similar to how Oldman transformed into Gordon.

Not neccessarily. Cooper was offered the role first, but turned it down and the rest is history. So in that respect the idea of Jolie as Catwoman is not that far fetched, though this depends on whther or not she is considered for the role later on.

[Nepenthes]

Like Oldman. Prior to 2005 you would never think of Gary Oldman when the character Gordon was mentioned. In contrast someone like Chris Cooper looks perfect for Gordon. But Oldman became Gordon. So much so that you can't imagine anyone else in the role. That's what I'm getting at. Jolie looks perfect for Catwoman and is the obvious choice. I think it'll be more interesting to find an actress who can transform into Catwoman similar to how Oldman transformed into Gordon.

yep sure. I thought so but I also thought you might have meant to transform Catwoman herself, casting against the type established by Michelle maybe. Good example, not too mention Ledger too. Scarlet Johansen might be a good choice in that way, she's never really played it tough or mean. Charlize as well, even though she did Aeon Flux, a somewhat similar type, no one noticed it. Agreed on Jlie I never thought she was even remotely an appropriate choice, even though she IS the perfect Catwoman. Maybe if we were back in year 2000, that would be a different story.

[Van Petrol]

Kate Beckinsale - Has some of the qualities, but she´s stated a number of times that has no interest in that kind of role after Van Helsing and the Underworld movies.

I thought she stated the opposite? :huh:

[Two-Face]

As anyone considered Michelle Ryan (the Bionic Woman) for Selina Kyle....?

I'd also like to throw Aussie actress Jessica Gower of Blade:The Series into the pot too. :up:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/blade_01_303_404_Warner_Bros_Entert.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/jessica-gower1.jpghttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/jessica-gower.jpg



Umm no.

[Coleman Reese]

Not neccessarily. Cooper was offered the role first, but turned it down and the rest is history. So in that respect the idea of Jolie as Catwoman is not that far fetched, though this depends on whther or not she is considered for the role later on.

I think Jolie has played catwoman without being catwoman in the past. She's played the sexy seductress who can just as well kick your ass so many times in previous films that she's slowly becoming a caricature of herself. This alone takes the novelty out of her casting.

[Laderlappen]

Its also the roles she is worst at.

[FlawlessVictory]

If we are going to think like Nolan, Charlize Theron seems like a logic choice to me. Like Bale or Ledger, she´s respected and critically-acclaimed, but isn´t considered an A-list superstar at the box office.

I thought the same exact person.

As for Jolie, my biggest reservation with her is that she is played out. She is constantly in the news and her face is plastered everywhere. I just have a feeling people are getting sick of her. But she is still sexy, well, haven't seen her lately but I'm sure she can whip right back into shape (pun intended :cwink:). And she has that look that would be great for the role. And I think she is a good actress, so I could definitely live with it.

Edit: My top choice is Charlize Theron though. She can act, she's hot and she's not played out.

[Van Petrol]

I think Jolie has played catwoman without being catwoman in the past. She's played the sexy seductress who can just as well kick your ass so many times in previous films that she's slowly becoming a caricature of herself. This alone takes the novelty out of her casting.

I agree with that.

[BobJM]

I thought she stated the opposite? :huh:

You're right, Batarang. At Comic Con, Beckinsale said she'd consider playing Catwoman if approached.

[flickchick85]

I agree that Theron seems like much more of a "Nolan choice" than Jolie. Mainly because, with casting, he seems to like to do the unexpected, which means he'll cast someone who's never had a role like this before, or in a giant comic book movie like this before, one of which could be applied to just about everyone in the main cast. I mean, even Liam Neeson was a twist on his usual mentor role (evil!mentor).

The reason I'm against Jolie, and why I think Nolan won't go for her, is that she's played several different incarnations of Catwoman over the years (it's probably the type of role she's best known for), and at this point, we all know exactly how she'd play her. There's no surprise or mystery there. Plus, she's super A-list, which also doesn't fit Nolan's MO.

Charlize Theron belongs to that "other A-list," the one with respected actors (not that Angelina can't act; I believe she can) who made their name in the indie circle, who DON'T headline box-office smashes. I mean, let's not kid ourselves, Hancock is a hit because Will Smith's name is attached, not Charlize's. THAT'S the A-list Nolan likes to pull from. And the other criteria: We don't know how she'd play the role. Not really. Catwoman's not Aeon Flux, and she's not Mary from Hancock. And she's certainly not one of her indie characters. Over the years, Charlize has probably played all the different aspects of Catwoman, but spread out individually over different roles who, aside from that one characteristic, were otherwise nothing like Catwoman. We have yet to see how this particular character would be played by her. And that's the surprise element Nolan seems to look for, and that's why I think she's a much more likely (and BETTER) candidate than Jolie.

Of course, all of this also applies to Marion Cotillard, imo, and she's my #1 choice, followed by Theron and Weisz.

ETA: in other words, what Coleman Reese said much more concisely. :)

[flickchick85]

Double post.

[flickchick85]

Whoa. Triple post

[ultimatefan]

I thought she stated the opposite? :huh:

Lat time I read about it, people asked her about Wonder Woman and she said she didn´t want that kinda role anymore, cuz she "had embarrassed her daughter enough already".

[DieSmiling]

I'm pretty sure Beckinsale has publicly (and recently) expressed interest in playing Catwoman.

[DieSmiling]

EDIT: Double post

[Visionboy]

From TV Guide...

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Movie-News/Angelina-Jolie-Catwoman/800044003

<H1>Julie Newmar: Jolie as Catwoman Is Cat's Meow

</H1>Should the Dark Knight next find himself vexed by Catwoman, Christian Bale could find himself teamed with one of Hollywood's most Wanted actresses.

Angelina Jolie, who is said to have expressed interest in playing the purr-fect role on the big screen, has the endorsement of TV's Catwoman. "Angelina would own the part," Batman's Julie Newmar tells the New York Daily News, adding, "I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love [and] she's tremendously popular with women."

Alas, the ultimate vote goes to the current Batman film franchise's writers, who in a recent interview said they are not (yet) inclined to say, "Here, kitty, kitty."

Newmar has donated her skintight, 22-inch waisted Batman catsuit to the Smithsonian for a fall exhibit. Since 2000, the actress has battled Charcot-Marie-Tooth, a neuromuscular disease that affects 2.6 million people.

[Bim]

Ugh i seriously hope Jolie is nowhere near this role if there's a third one and Catwoman is in it :huh:

[ultimatefan]

I'm pretty sure Beckinsale has publicly (and recently) expressed interest in playing Catwoman.


Oh okay, I found it:
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_12565.html

Let´s face it, just like with guys and Joker, pretty much every young actress in Hollywood will lobby for this part, especially now that Batman movies are making drug dealer cartel money again.

[Majik1387]

Newmar. :heart:

[batlovescatDC]

Something interesting I noticed - if you look at the higher-res picture, this Catwoman is quite clearly modelled on Charlize Theron.


I'm sorry.... but I see absolutely no similarities to DCvs.MK Catwoman and Charlize Theron in the high-res pic.

[Batmania]

Jolie is such an obvious, predictable, choice, thay's why I don't think it'll go to her. At least I hope not. Plus, since Nolan is all about realism, how the hell wouldn't people notice that Selina and Catwoman were one and the same with those lips? ;)

[DeFett]

From TV Guide...

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Movie-News/Angelina-Jolie-Catwoman/800044003

<H1>Julie Newmar: Jolie as Catwoman Is Cat's Meow

</H1>Should the Dark Knight next find himself vexed by Catwoman, Christian Bale could find himself teamed with one of Hollywood's most Wanted actresses.

Angelina Jolie, who is said to have expressed interest in playing the purr-fect role on the big screen, has the endorsement of TV's Catwoman. "Angelina would own the part," Batman's Julie Newmar tells the New York Daily News, adding, "I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love [and] she's tremendously popular with women."

Alas, the ultimate vote goes to the current Batman film franchise's writers, who in a recent interview said they are not (yet) inclined to say, "Here, kitty, kitty."

Newmar has donated her skintight, 22-inch waisted Batman catsuit to the Smithsonian for a fall exhibit. Since 2000, the actress has battled Charcot-Marie-Tooth, a neuromuscular disease that affects 2.6 million people.

It's been reported here too.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24100359-7485,00.html

Angelina Jolie set to play Catwoman
JULY 30, 2008 08:14AM

Catty ... Angelina Jolie, seen here in her new film Wanted, is tipped to be the next Catwoman.

ANGELINA Jolie is reportedly being lined up to star as Batman's nemesis Catwoman in a new movie.
The 33-year-old actress – who gave birth to twins Knox and Vivienne earlier this month – is said to be in final negotiations with studio bosses to play the feline villain who first appeared in the Batman comics.

It is not clear whether she would play the role in the current Batman film series, starring Christian Bale as the caped crusader, or in a spin-off film as Halle Berry did in 2004's Catwoman.

Actress Julie Newmar, who played Catwoman in the Batman TV series from 1966 to 1967, has given her blessing for Jolie to play the part.

"Angelina would own the part," Newmar, now 74, said.

"My industry friends tell me she has already made enquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love.

"She is tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

Other actresses to take on the role of Catwoman include Michelle Pfeiffer in 1992 movie Batman Returns, and Eartha Kitt who took over from Newmar in the TV series.

Jolie was recently tipped to be starring in The Thomas Crown Affair 2 alongside Pierce Brosnan and has reportedly been ordered by studio bosses to put on weight for the role.

[Golgo-13]

Wasn't Ashley Judd rumored to play Catwoman before Halle Berry got the role?

I wouldn't mind seeing Judd opposite Bale in B3.

Her and Morgan Freeman are supposedly pals, too. :yay:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/ashley_judd_9.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/indirav1/ashley-judd-2.jpg

[jmc]

It's been reported here too.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24100359-7485,00.html

Angelina Jolie set to play Catwoman
JULY 30, 2008 08:14AM

Catty ... Angelina Jolie, seen here in her new film Wanted, is tipped to be the next Catwoman.

ANGELINA Jolie is reportedly being lined up to star as Batman's nemesis Catwoman in a new movie.
The 33-year-old actress – who gave birth to twins Knox and Vivienne earlier this month – is said to be in final negotiations with studio bosses to play the feline villain who first appeared in the Batman comics.

It is not clear whether she would play the role in the current Batman film series, starring Christian Bale as the caped crusader, or in a spin-off film as Halle Berry did in 2004's Catwoman.

Actress Julie Newmar, who played Catwoman in the Batman TV series from 1966 to 1967, has given her blessing for Jolie to play the part.

"Angelina would own the part," Newmar, now 74, said.

"My industry friends tell me she has already made enquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love.

"She is tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

Other actresses to take on the role of Catwoman include Michelle Pfeiffer in 1992 movie Batman Returns, and Eartha Kitt who took over from Newmar in the TV series.

Jolie was recently tipped to be starring in The Thomas Crown Affair 2 alongside Pierce Brosnan and has reportedly been ordered by studio bosses to put on weight for the role.


I'm sorry but this smells like absolute crap, she's in final negotiations for what? A film that hasn't even been confirmed we'll get? Another solo Catwoman film? This is pure speculation and nothing more.

[FoJacob]

I'd like to see Jennifer Connelly as Catwoman. With her raven-black hair and green eyes, she's got the perfect look and she's an Oscar-winning actress to boot. Plus she's in her mid-to-late thirties (though still breathtakingly beautiful), which gives her the kind of gravity and air of intelligence to make her a believable jewel thief. And I think she'd make an attractive match to Christian Bale.

[Eagle_23]

Wasn't Ashley Judd rumored to play Catwoman before Halle Berry got the role?

I wouldn't mind seeing Judd opposite Bale in B3.

Her and Morgan Freeman are supposedly pals, too. :yay:


I'd personally would love to see Judd as Catwoman. But she may be a bit too old to play this role (she's 40 Bale is 34). I suggested her before and that's what a lot of people said in regards to her. I kinda agree, but who knows. But I still would love to see her in the role, LOL.

[Coleman Reese]

It's been reported here too.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24100359-7485,00.html

Angelina Jolie set to play Catwoman
JULY 30, 2008 08:14AM

Catty ... Angelina Jolie, seen here in her new film Wanted, is tipped to be the next Catwoman.

ANGELINA Jolie is reportedly being lined up to star as Batman's nemesis Catwoman in a new movie.
The 33-year-old actress – who gave birth to twins Knox and Vivienne earlier this month – is said to be in final negotiations with studio bosses to play the feline villain who first appeared in the Batman comics.

It is not clear whether she would play the role in the current Batman film series, starring Christian Bale as the caped crusader, or in a spin-off film as Halle Berry did in 2004's Catwoman.

Actress Julie Newmar, who played Catwoman in the Batman TV series from 1966 to 1967, has given her blessing for Jolie to play the part.

"Angelina would own the part," Newmar, now 74, said.

"My industry friends tell me she has already made enquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love.

"She is tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

Other actresses to take on the role of Catwoman include Michelle Pfeiffer in 1992 movie Batman Returns, and Eartha Kitt who took over from Newmar in the TV series.

Jolie was recently tipped to be starring in The Thomas Crown Affair 2 alongside Pierce Brosnan and has reportedly been ordered by studio bosses to put on weight for the role.

I'm having flashbacks of when a number of sources were reporting that Paul Bettany was in "final talks" as the Joker in January of 2006. I think these journalists here chatter at various outlets or from various agents and report it as a done deal.

[jmc]

I'm having flashbacks of when a number of sources were reporting that Paul Bettany was in "final talks" as the Joker in January of 2006. I think these journalists here chatter at various outlets or from various agents and report it as a done deal.

Spot on, Jolie is no closer to becoming Catwoman at this point in time than what Dame Judy Dench is.

[BobJM]

Here's hoping for Dame Judy Dench!

*fingers crossed*

[raxor]

Please guys..no catwoman!!!!

[BobJM]

Why not?

[Majik1387]

Here's hoping for Dame Judy Dench!

*fingers crossed*
You obviously haven't seen Helen Mirren sexed up.:o

[BobJM]

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/helenhotness1.jpg

I have now.

[Majik1387]

That's not the pic I was talkin bout.:o

http://www.globalart.pl/wp-content/plugins/hot-linked-image-cacher/upload/etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/18/helen_mirren_vanity_fair_1995.jpg

[Conebone69]

OMG! NO CATWOMAN! :cmad::cmad:

[BobJM]

That's not the pic I was talkin bout.:o

http://www.globalart.pl/wp-content/plugins/hot-linked-image-cacher/upload/etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/18/helen_mirren_vanity_fair_1995.jpg

:wow:
What's this from?

[Majik1387]

Behind the scenes for some movie.

[BobJM]

OMG! NO CATWOMAN! :cmad::cmad:

People need to stop stop saying "No Catwoman" and start giving explanations as to why they want to exclude arguably one of Batman's most popular and interesting characters.

[Conebone69]

Selina Kyle in the movie is fine, but NO catwoman! Please, Nolan! :csad:

[Majik1387]

That's still not an explanation.

[BobJM]

Thank you.

I didn't want to say anything again to avoid the whole inevitable "dude, calm down" comment, but I'm glad a second person agrees with my gripe.

[Micah12345]

catwoman is one of batman's most realistic characters...hell frank miller used her in year one...arguably the most realistic batman comic ever.

really, what's the hang up?

[raxor]

It just won't go well with what Nolan has done so far..

[BobJM]

What won't go well? A burglar/anti-hero who uses the same idea of theatricality that Batman does?

[Jordacar]

It just won't go well with what Nolan has done so far..which part? the costume? the romance?

[DieSmiling]

It just won't go well with what Nolan has done so far..

I really don't see how. At all. I think it makes perfect sense to go this route based on what we've seen in this series so far.

[Majik1387]

She'd fit in perfectly.

And she doesn't need the ****ty prostitute angle or Falcone angle.

[raxor]

which part? the costume? the romance?

Yeah that... I'd rather prefer him getting talia al ghul than cat woman..

[nightwing06]

To add Catwoman would be such an excellent choice.Someone Gotham views almost the same way they view Batman now.

[ultimatefan]

Catwoman is arguably the only villain (or at least anti-hero) in the Batman universe that´s as important as The Joker. And before anyone says Michelle Pfeiffer can´t be replaced, the same was said about Jack Nicholson and Joker...

As for this "confirmation", sounds like total media BS. Nolan isn´t even signed for the third Batman movie yet.

[Nepenthes]

And she doesn't need the ****ty prostitute angle

it doesn't have to be explicitly stated but it's denial to pretend it's not there in the conceptual roots of the character. it should be acknowledged and played with in with a round about way. It's more fun. and it's true. and adults can handle it

[David Rice]

It's been reported here too.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24100359-7485,00.html

Angelina Jolie set to play Catwoman
JULY 30, 2008 08:14AM

Catty ... Angelina Jolie, seen here in her new film Wanted, is tipped to be the next Catwoman.

ANGELINA Jolie is reportedly being lined up to star as Batman's nemesis Catwoman in a new movie.
The 33-year-old actress – who gave birth to twins Knox and Vivienne earlier this month – is said to be in final negotiations with studio bosses to play the feline villain who first appeared in the Batman comics.

It is not clear whether she would play the role in the current Batman film series, starring Christian Bale as the caped crusader, or in a spin-off film as Halle Berry did in 2004's Catwoman.

Actress Julie Newmar, who played Catwoman in the Batman TV series from 1966 to 1967, has given her blessing for Jolie to play the part.

"Angelina would own the part," Newmar, now 74, said.

"My industry friends tell me she has already made enquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love.

"She is tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

Other actresses to take on the role of Catwoman include Michelle Pfeiffer in 1992 movie Batman Returns, and Eartha Kitt who took over from Newmar in the TV series.

Jolie was recently tipped to be starring in The Thomas Crown Affair 2 alongside Pierce Brosnan and has reportedly been ordered by studio bosses to put on weight for the role.

Total BS!

[David Rice]

It's been reported here too.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24100359-7485,00.html

Angelina Jolie set to play Catwoman
JULY 30, 2008 08:14AM

Catty ... Angelina Jolie, seen here in her new film Wanted, is tipped to be the next Catwoman.

ANGELINA Jolie is reportedly being lined up to star as Batman's nemesis Catwoman in a new movie.
The 33-year-old actress – who gave birth to twins Knox and Vivienne earlier this month – is said to be in final negotiations with studio bosses to play the feline villain who first appeared in the Batman comics.

It is not clear whether she would play the role in the current Batman film series, starring Christian Bale as the caped crusader, or in a spin-off film as Halle Berry did in 2004's Catwoman.

Actress Julie Newmar, who played Catwoman in the Batman TV series from 1966 to 1967, has given her blessing for Jolie to play the part.

"Angelina would own the part," Newmar, now 74, said.

"My industry friends tell me she has already made enquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love.

"She is tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

Other actresses to take on the role of Catwoman include Michelle Pfeiffer in 1992 movie Batman Returns, and Eartha Kitt who took over from Newmar in the TV series.

Jolie was recently tipped to be starring in The Thomas Crown Affair 2 alongside Pierce Brosnan and has reportedly been ordered by studio bosses to put on weight for the role.

Total BS!

[Conebone69]

That's still not an explanation.
Catwoman is just too cheesy for nolans take on batman. Nolans batman is in a serious/realistic universe. A chick dressing up like a cat? NO! I know shes a big character but some things just wont fly in nolans batman. And this is one of them

[Katsuro]

Catwoman is just too cheesy for nolans take on batman. Nolans batman is in a serious/realistic universe. A chick dressing up like a cat? NO! I know shes a big character but some things just wont fly in nolans batman. And this is one of them

A guy can dress up as a bat, but a girl cant dress up like a cat? That's absolutley ridiculous logic. People needs to stop making assumptions about Nolan's universe for him. Nobody thought Joker in a purple suit would fit in Nolan's world, did they?

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Catwoman is just too cheesy for nolans take on batman. Nolans batman is in a serious/realistic universe. A chick dressing up like a cat? NO! I know shes a big character but some things just wont fly in nolans batman. And this is one of them


Yet we can have a guy dressed as a Bat??


Angelina Jolie is too conventional for the part in my opinion... and as a result I feel Nolan will yet again think outside the box (very much like Ledger) and will probably yield better results.

[Bim]

Here's hoping for Dame Judy Dench!

*fingers crossed*
:hehe:

I can live with catwoman showing up in a third movie, but not if it's Jolie :cmad:

[Conebone69]

A guy can dress up as a bat, but a girl cant dress up like a cat? That's absolutley ridiculous logic. People needs to stop making assumptions about Nolan's universe for him. Nobody thought Joker in a purple suit would fit in Nolan's world, did they?

Yet we can have a guy dressed as a Bat??


Angelina Jolie is too conventional for the part in my opinion... and as a result I feel Nolan will yet again think outside the box (very much like Ledger) and will probably yield better results.
Ok, well a dude dressed up like a bat is alot cooler than a chick dressed up like a cat. And batman also does not come off cheesy. Im I wrong? And who thought joker wouldnt fit in nolans batman?

[Ixion]

If you can convince an audience that a man can dress up as a bat and get away with it you can do the same for a woman and a cat. One does not make a lot more sense than the other.

You wouldn't even need to work that hard to get people to accept Catwoman, after Joker shes Batman's most famous rogue, people expect her to show up eventually anyway.

[Conebone69]

If you can convince an audience that a man can dress up as a bat and get away with it you can do the same for a woman and a cat. One does not make a lot more sense than the other.

You wouldn't even need to work that hard to get people to accept Catwoman, after Joker shes Batman's most famous rogue, people expect her to show up eventually anyway.
Well I dont want her in this trilogy

[StorminNorman]

Anyone that believes Catwoman doesn't fit Nolan's universe needs to rewatch this franchise.

[Conebone69]

I honestly dont care if people disagree with me on this. I just dont want catwoman! Why cant anyone accept my opinion? Jesus

[StorminNorman]

If you are not using the argument "Catwoman doesn't fit in Nolan's REALISM!", then my comment wasn't pointed at you in any way. :huh:

[Conebone69]

If you are not using the argument "Catwoman doesn't fit in Nolan's REALISM!", then my comment wasn't pointed at you in any way. :huh:
I know, I was telling everyone else

[BSMITHII]

The Perfect actress for Catwoman? Asia Argento

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/a/asia_argento/thumbnails/tn2_asia_argento_3.jpg

[Laderlappen]

Ok, well a dude dressed up like a bat is alot cooler than a chick dressed up like a cat. And batman also does not come off cheesy. Im I wrong? And who thought joker wouldnt fit in nolans batman?A chick dressed up like a cat is really cool IMO.
And what's about Catwoman that makes her so cheesey?

[az824]

Well, Angie's my first choice, but i recently watched Rush Hour 2 and i saw someone that i think could make a good Catwoman and i dont think she's been mentioned before:

Roselyn Sanchez
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/roselyn-sanchez-2006-nclr-alma-awards-arrivals-17UfHW.jpg
http://thedrjohnnyshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/roselyn-sanchez.jpg

yes she's Latina but i dont think its too big of a problem. plus she could pass of as Italian (what Selina has been hinted as being)

[Conebone69]

A chick dressed up like a cat is really cool IMO.
And what's about Catwoman that makes her so cheesey?
Well I dont think its cool at all. Just the fact that a chick is dressing up as a cat, is why its cheesy

[StorminNorman]

Shannyn Sossaman

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m187/Sachiko_02/Celebrities/Female/Shannyn%20Sossamon/Shannyn-Sossamon5.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/NessieV/ShannynSossamon.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0815370/

[StorminNorman]

Well I dont think its cool at all. Just the fact that a chick is dressing up as a cat, is why its cheesy

A guy...dressing up as a bat...is?

[Conebone69]

A guy...dressing up as a bat...is?
Uh, yeah. You dont think so?

[Micah12345]

Conebone just needs a little imagination.

[Coleman Reese]

Shannyn Sossaman

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m187/Sachiko_02/Celebrities/Female/Shannyn%20Sossamon/Shannyn-Sossamon5.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/NessieV/ShannynSossamon.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0815370/

I can definitely see that.

[StorminNorman]

Uh, yeah. You dont think so?

A woman dressed as a Cat is no more silly than a guy dressed as a Bat. If Nolan can make one work wonderfully, then there is no problem with Catwoman in that regard.

[flickchick85]

Catwoman is one of the most reality-grounded characters in Batman's universe. She's a catburglar with some skills. So what if her mask has ears? Maybe they serve a purpose like Batman's (cover antennae). It's not difficult. She doesn't even have a freakin' cape, which already makes her easier to buy than Batman.

She's also his one true physical and intellectual match. I say not only is she workable in this series, she's necessary.

[Coleman Reese]

After Rachel "I'm so boring" Dawes I really want a more exciting female lead.

[ultimatefan]

Well, Angie's my first choice, but i recently watched Rush Hour 2 and i saw someone that i think could make a good Catwoman and i dont think she's been mentioned before:

Roselyn Sanchez
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/roselyn-sanchez-2006-nclr-alma-awards-arrivals-17UfHW.jpg
http://thedrjohnnyshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/roselyn-sanchez.jpg

yes she's Latina but i dont think its too big of a problem. plus she could pass of as Italian (what Selina has been hinted as being)

hehehehehe, the "banana bj" chick...

[GhostPoet]

I vote Rosanne

[Majik1387]

it doesn't have to be explicitly stated but it's denial to pretend it's not there in the conceptual roots of the character. it should be acknowledged and played with in with a round about way. It's more fun. and it's true. and adults can handle it
No, it's was a stupid addition to the character, didn't add anything to her story, just tried making her like Julia Roberts from Pretty Woman. Hooker with the heart of gold type character.
Catwoman is just too cheesy for nolans take on batman. Nolans batman is in a serious/realistic universe. A chick dressing up like a cat? NO! I know shes a big character but some things just wont fly in nolans batman. And this is one of them
Did you watch Batman Begins? Did you wath the ferry scene in TDK?:huh:
A guy can dress up as a bat, but a girl cant dress up like a cat? That's absolutley ridiculous logic. People needs to stop making assumptions about Nolan's universe for him. Nobody thought Joker in a purple suit would fit in Nolan's world, did they?
lol Oh those crazy "fans".:oldrazz:
How I don't miss them
Ok, well a dude dressed up like a bat is alot cooler than a chick dressed up like a cat. And batman also does not come off cheesy. Im I wrong? And who thought joker wouldnt fit in nolans batman?
A lot of supposed fans who used the same stupid logic as you're using against Catwoman.
Anyone that believes Catwoman doesn't fit Nolan's universe needs to rewatch this franchise.
Exactly.
I honestly dont care if people disagree with me on this. I just dont want catwoman! Why cant anyone accept my opinion? Jesus
Because you're in a CATWOMAN thread, what did you expect?
You're in a thread in support of Catwoman in the next movie, and you just came in here to say you don't support it. Then why bother coming in and posting?
Well I dont think its cool at all. Just the fact that a chick is dressing up as a cat, is why its cheesy
A guy...dressing up as a bat...is?
Uh, yeah. You dont think so?
Conebone just needs a little imagination.
I don't think that's all he needs.:o
I vote Rosanne
:hehe:

[The Caped Knight]

Check out this Artist's idea of Catwoman's outfit in Nolan's realistic world .

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/156/8/3/SELINA_KYLE__CATWOMAN_by_josephcaesarsd.jpg
http://josephcaesarsd.deviantart.com/art/SELINA-KYLE-CATWOMAN-87565564

I think it's awesome . Selina could steal a combat suit from Wayne Enterprise R.N.D and revamp & fashion it into her Catwoman suit . Like Bruce did in Batman Begins with his Batsuit .

[JokerLedger]

Kate Beckinsale is my favorite to play Selina Kyle.

[Heretic]

I still think that the best way to bring in Catwoman is a bit part in a mystery type movie (my preference would be an altered Hush story) and batman just encounters her, maybe put Selina in briefly as well...but dont make her a central part of part 3 in any real way. The character just doesnt lend itself to being a Big Bad in a movie, but moreso a small time role like the mobsters get.

That also opens it up to bringing her back in a larger role in part 4 to help Batman fight Harley Quinn/The Joker...but thats me dreaming.

[JackBauer]

How 'bout Rose Byrne?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7999/rose_byrne18_jpg.jpg

[flickchick85]

Catwoman doesn't even need to go that high-tech. She could be an old fashioned cat burglar in a jumpsuit. Sure, she'll have a couple of gadgets to help her out: night-vision or infrared goggles, spiked boots for climbing (retractable spikes?), some sort of spikes in her gloves for climbing (which can double as "claws"), cables/whip, small backpack/parachute, and as I mentioned before, she could have listening devices with antennae to explain the ears. But the suit itself could (and imo SHOULD) be as simple as can be. When you have her breaking into Wayne Enterprises just so she can have her suit, it starts to feel a little forced.

My point is, it doesn't have to be a "costume" at all. It's simply a functional cat burglar outfit.

And just for the heck of it, Marion Cotillard for Catwoman!

[Dark Knight]

Check out this Artist's idea of Catwoman's outfit in Nolan's realistic world .

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/156/8/3/SELINA_KYLE__CATWOMAN_by_josephcaesarsd.jpg
http://josephcaesarsd.deviantart.com/art/SELINA-KYLE-CATWOMAN-87565564

I think it's awesome . Selina could steal a combat suit from Wayne Enterprise R.N.D and revamp & fashion it into her Catwoman suit . Like Bruce did in Batman Begins with his Batsuit .





Very nice!

My three top actress' to play Catwoman in order...

1. Angelina Jolie (it sure seems she was born to play Selina Kyle)
2. Natalie Portman
3. Kate Winslet

[Dark Knight]

hehehehehe, the "banana bj" chick...



Banana BJ chick? When did she do that?

[Two-Face]

Jolie is my first choice too.


What about Theron as Selina DK?

[Dark Knight]

Anyone that believes Catwoman doesn't fit Nolan's universe needs to rewatch this franchise.



Agreed! In Nolans Bat world we would probably FINALLY see a more true interpretation of Selina Kyle/Catwoman that we haven't seen yet onscreen.

[Dark Knight]

Jolie is my first choice too.


What about Theron as Selina DK?



Nah....Jolie would cause a GREAT buzz and females LOVE Angelina! She just needs to get back in shape before she takes on the role of Catwoman. I also want to see Bale get in top shape as well for the 3rd film.

[Two-Face]

Well the producers asked Jolie to put on weight for The Thomas Crown Affair 2 movie, so if Nolan asked her to do it I think she would if she wanted (no pun intended) to play the role.

[Heretic]

Jolie just seems to be an obvious, and boring choice. I dont think shes even been any good since Girl, Interrupted. I never thought she was attractive, and I'm just sick of her...and besides, she seems more suited for the Dame To Kill For of Sin City 2...like...WAY more suited for that role.

[jaymes_e06]

I agree that Angie would be perfect as Selina and should be cast I would love to see her in the role.

[flickchick85]

Nah....Jolie would cause a GREAT buzz and females LOVE Angelina!
Not to speak for my entire gender, but from my experience, females tend to like the Charlize Therons and Kate Winslets of the world far more than the Angelina Jolies. Possibly because they don't constantly play to the male fantasy "tough chick" stereotype that Angelina does. We like our female characters strong, tough even, but relatable. Jolie kinda lacks that last part.

I think Entertainment Weekly recently did some sort of feature talking about their favorite actors, and they picked Kate Winslet as the one that all women love, for that reason. Far cry from Angelina.

And yes, Jolie would be a very boring choice, imo.

[Project862006]

i love Angelina and all but she has played this type of character so many times that its nothing new i would want someone different plus i think she would boring in a sense of be too easy of a pick i say go outside the box like ledger for joker

[jmc]

Jolie just seems to be an obvious, and boring choice. I dont think shes even been any good since Girl, Interrupted. I never thought she was attractive, and I'm just sick of her...and besides, she seems more suited for the Dame To Kill For of Sin City 2...like...WAY more suited for that role.

That's my problem with her too, she's is too obvious a choice and quite frankly if she was chosen, I wouldn't nearly be as hyped because I know what I'm getting. Sure if there was anyone who was born to play Catwoman it's her, but the problem is she's pretty much already played that character already on several occasions without putting on the suit. It's time for someone else to play the seductive action chick, Jolie's done more than enough of it to the point where it's almost become cliché.

[batboy99]

Angie was born to play Catwoman, She looks alot like the character as well, but as many here already said, shes played the role too many damn times and we would be getting something we have already seen, only she will actually be called catwoman this time and would be wearing a mask.

[jmc]

Not to speak for my entire gender, but from my experience, females tend to like the Charlize Therons and Kate Winslets of the world far more than the Angelina Jolies. Possibly because they don't constantly play to the male fantasy "tough chick" stereotype that Angelina does. We like our female characters strong, tough even, but relatable. Jolie kinda lacks that last part.

I think Entertainment Weekly recently did some sort of feature talking about their favorite actors, and they picked Kate Winslet as the one that all women love, for that reason. Far cry from Angelina.

And yes, Jolie would be a very boring choice, imo.

This isn't the first time I've heard women say that Jolie isn't relatable.

[Micah12345]

With a little hair dye...I could possibly see winslet. Definitely not Jolie though.

[Heretic]

Im not exactly a movie expert. I tend to only watch comic book films, and some horror and a few sci fi. You'd be shocked at how many "classic" and successful movies I havent seen. The point is, Im no expert when making casting decisions. I just think that the best thing to do is pick a name that people know, but kind of an off the radar choice. Give some actress a shot at doing something great with the role. The only VERY important thing is that she has to look good in a tight suit (and be a good actress). It'll be tough to beat Michelle Pfieffers turn in that department. I'm sure a certain amount of fandom would scream for Alba or Megan Fox, but neither of them could convincly act in their own biographies.

[Shane Diesel]

How 'bout Rose Byrne?

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