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Webhead2006
07-29-2008, 02:44 PM
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Episode #8-5: "Committed"October 16, 2008
UPDATED 7/28/08: Someone is abducting young couples (including Chloe and Jimmy), and Lois and Clark pose as a couple themselves to investigate.
- Lois proves herself to be a supporter of a Chloe & Clark pairing.
- Title Posted. Please do not repost this on other websites without a link to KryptonSite.com.


Episode #8-5: "Committed" October 16, 2008

Written By: Bryan Miller
Directed By: Glen Winter

Brainiac 8
07-29-2008, 02:46 PM
I like the sound of the episode already. Reminds me of the Lois and Clark episode where they had to go undercover as a newlywed couple. :up:

b24
07-29-2008, 02:47 PM
oh dear expect chlarkers to jump in joy

lois and clark posing as couple this will be fun to see

Webhead2006
07-29-2008, 02:48 PM
Yea this should be a good episode.

Prison Mike
07-29-2008, 02:50 PM
abducting young couples? lol okay, I'll go along with it only because it has Clark and Lois investigating together. I don't like the idea of chlark and I hope this chlark storyline is put to rest in a couple episodes.

Webhead2006
07-29-2008, 02:54 PM
It probably will be. I am a chlarker fan myself but a full blown relationship is likely never going to happen. I cant wait to see what happens with their friendship/relationship after episode 4.

biaaly
07-29-2008, 02:56 PM
Ok that took me from high to low... wtf? Lois is not a Chlarker... if anything she always seemed against it for the sake of her cousins feelings... and she seemed to be more pro-Clana, always saying something positive about Lana and how Clana was the perfect couple (in Siren). Now why are the writers trying to give us this crap that the one who actually ends up with Clark would be all for her cousin and Clark? It makes no sense. I'm assuming this means Clark will be pining for Chloe after the Fever letter gets brought back up, otherwise whats the point of this?

Brainiac 8
07-29-2008, 02:56 PM
C'mon guys, let the Chlarkers get some joy, since they have not long term hope. :up:

Personally this episode has the potential to be fantastic and funny.

Serene
07-29-2008, 02:59 PM
C'mon guys, let the Chlarkers get some joy, since they have not long term hope. :up:

And because they (generally) have always been so kind to other shippers.

:dry:

Prison Mike
07-29-2008, 03:04 PM
C'mon guys, let the Chlarkers get some joy, since they have not long term hope. :up:

Personally this episode has the potential to be fantastic and funny.

Never! They're just as awful as batfans. I still have nightmares about my days at K-site. :csad:

mellyM
07-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Lois is Chloe's cousin, why wouldn't she support them being together if she likes Clark. Besides it didn;'t say Clark and Chloe would be together, the ep sounds like more of a tool to put Clark and Lois together more.

Serene
07-29-2008, 03:07 PM
Lois is Chloe's cousin, why wouldn't she support them being together if she likes Clark. Besides it didn;'t say Clark and Chloe would be together, the ep sounds like more of a tool to put Clark and Lois together more.

I agree. I can see Lois busting on Clark a bit for not recognizing how great of a girlfriend Chloe would have been for him.

b24
07-29-2008, 03:08 PM
this whole chloe/clark is nothing but tease

chlose's another angle is davis bloome

also i think clark will be develop feelings for lois sometime this season

Prison Mike
07-29-2008, 03:11 PM
it will look weird if he has feelings for chloe and then jump to lois in the same season. Something about that family. lol

Brainiac 8
07-29-2008, 03:15 PM
And because they (generally) have always been so kind to other shippers.

:dry:


I know, but you know me Rene...I'm just trying to be nice to all sides involved. I'm more of a Clark/Lois fan...but that is the Superman fanboy in me. ;)

KBX
07-29-2008, 04:04 PM
C'mon guys, let the Chlarkers get some joy, since they have not long term hope. :up:

Personally this episode has the potential to be fantastic and funny.

Season seems to be a little dark and full of action, gotta have some lighter ones to balance it all out... It does seem like a filler episode (kidnapping young couples) but Lois and Clark investigating something I am all for...

I agree. I can see Lois busting on Clark a bit for not recognizing how great of a girlfriend Chloe would have been for him.

True, Chloe has always been there, its just Clark was so much in love with Lana, he missed out. Im sure Lois will let him have it.

So far, Lois is in all 5 episodes so far. I think its pretty safe to say the options the TPTB have on her for more episodes might be picked up. Wonder what are those exact details of her options are... Unless she goes missing or hiatus when Lana comes back...

b24
07-29-2008, 04:32 PM
agree this episode seems more like on lighter tone

04nbod
07-29-2008, 05:59 PM
I like the sound of the episode already. Reminds me of the Lois and Clark episode where they had to go undercover as a newlywed couple. :up:

and superman 2.

I will say again to the new execs though
STOP FEEDING CHLARKERS!

its for their own good because its not going to happen and if it did it would not end well (for referance see clana!)

Mikelus
07-29-2008, 06:35 PM
Guys, Craig Byrne (K-Site webmaster) writes those spoilers, it would not be the first time he exaggerates some details just to promote controversy so some fans debate for pages and his site gets more hits and posts, typical commercial approach. That fraking site is the champion of spam and trolling, pathetic.

It sounds like a filler episode, but it could be fun with some Clark and Lois awkward moments.

Cmill216
07-29-2008, 07:20 PM
It does sound fillery, but by SV filler standards it actually sounds quite neat.

Lemaris
07-29-2008, 07:33 PM
and superman 2.

I will say again to the new execs though
STOP FEEDING CHLARKERS!

its for their own good because its not going to happen and if it did it would end well (for referance see clana!)

Guys, Craig Byrne (K-Site webmaster) writes those spoilers, it would not be the first time he exaggerates some details just to promote controversy so some fans debate for pages and his site gets more hits and posts, typical commercial approach. That fraking site is the champion of spam and trolling, pathetic.

It sounds like a filler episode, but it could be fun with some Clark and Lois awkward moments.

This is all true, 99.9% of the time one who is actually feeding the "Chlarkers" is Craig. He knows damn well who most of his posters are over there. Prime example, last spring he reported that Gough personally told him that "Chlois was never endgame" and then proceeded to insinuate that it was possible Gough only said it because they didn't know if Allison was coming back. He is just as good as the producers at stringing this specific group along.

b24
07-29-2008, 07:36 PM
what if it turns out to be lana who is behind couple kidnapping

and craig also mentioned it will be clark who will have feelinsg for chloe not the other way around???

04nbod
07-29-2008, 07:44 PM
what if it turns out to be lana who is behind couple kidnapping


I love it. The whole idea reeks of silver age superdickery 'if I can't be happy, no one else can!'

Webhead2006
07-29-2008, 07:45 PM
KK wont be in this episode. She isnt returning to nov. So she will be either starting around episode 8 or maybe 10(personally hope she starts after ep 9).

Lemaris
07-29-2008, 08:21 PM
I love it. The whole idea reeks of silver age superdickery 'if I can't be happy, no one else can!'

Sadly by the end of the episode all would be forgiven and by the next time she comes on the show nobody would even mention it.:hehe:

Serene
07-29-2008, 08:35 PM
crap.

Serene
07-29-2008, 08:37 PM
I know, but you know me Rene...I'm just trying to be nice to all sides involved. I'm more of a Clark/Lois fan...but that is the Superman fanboy in me. ;)

Oh, I know what a sweetie you are, B8. :heart:

Me? Notsomuch. ;) There's just no way I can ever feel sorry for Chlarkers not getting their Chlark or Chlois.


True, Chloe has always been there, its just Clark was so much in love with Lana, he missed out.

He didn't miss out so much as opt out. :)

It does sound like they are going to explore whatever feelings there are beyond friendship between the two though. The Fever letter is a likely trigger for all this.

Now that she knows Lana is out of the picture, if Lois thinks that her cousin still wants Clark, it makes sense that she'd try and be supportive of her.

Mikelus
07-29-2008, 09:13 PM
As someone said, KK is not back till November. Anyway, Lana is not that evil, so it could be Maxima if she does back to back episodes (4 & 5) or another villain.

The Incredible Hulk
07-29-2008, 09:39 PM
I like the sound of the episode already. Reminds me of the Lois and Clark episode where they had to go undercover as a newlywed couple. :up:

or the first half of Superman II

oh dear expect chlarkers to jump in joy

lois and clark posing as couple this will be fun to see

why cant people just be fans of the show and stop bickering over rampant stupidity like who makes the best couple w/ Clark? Not to mention the outcome is predetermined of who "wins." It's like going to the track and having 2 of the jockeys tell you before hand that their horses have broken legs, and yet you still bet on them to win. My god, our fandom sucks....

Webhead2006
07-29-2008, 09:44 PM
This should be some fun, comedic moments for the episode hopefully.

Serene
07-29-2008, 10:29 PM
o My god, our fandom sucks....

There are many layers to fandom suckage, grasshopper. Shipping is but one of them.

"Bastardizing the mythology" claims being another.

;)

Mikelus
07-29-2008, 10:56 PM
Unfortunately, any fandom has its dose of idiotic fans, compulsive bashers, and shippers, which in SV's case, is because of the CW that believes leading characters need to have a love interest to please part of their superficial and dumb female audience. So this year we have more love triangles to keep this type of crap going.

What is even more retarded, is the moronic people that think Chloe will become Lois because the real Lois Lane will die in Smallville. This is really sick, it shows how deranged some people are, but they're just a very tiny minority, most fans laugh at them anyway.

b24
07-29-2008, 11:03 PM
^^^ u forgot chloe is superman

Webhead2006
07-29-2008, 11:09 PM
We should wait and see how things will turn up on screen instead of *****ing and complaining all the time. Yea i too hate what the cw thinks is good for business and they really need to change their ways and have a bigger demo.

PJBoy
07-29-2008, 11:36 PM
Sounds cool!

Serene
07-30-2008, 12:14 AM
Unfortunately, any fandom has its dose of idiotic fans, compulsive bashers, and shippers, which in SV's case, is because of the CW that believes leading characters need to have a love interest to please part of their superficial and dumb female audience. So this year we have more love triangles to keep this type of crap going.

I know the mythology aspect of the show is what's entirely more cool to most people (especially in these parts) but I don't think it's fair to belittle the viewers who do watch the show solely for the love and relationship angles.

I know some of these people, very well... my daughter and her friends. :) They aren't "dumb female's" either (offensive, much?). They don't know or care anything about comics or the mythology, they watch it for the core characters and their stories. I can't fathom why their opinions mean any less than yours.

Brainiac 8
07-30-2008, 12:38 AM
I know the mythology aspect of the show is what's entirely more cool to most people (especially in these parts) but I don't think it's fair to belittle the viewers who do watch the show solely for the love and relationship angles.

I know some of these people, very well... my daughter and her friends. :) They aren't "dumb female's" either (offensive, much?). They don't know or care anything about comics or the mythology, they watch it for the core characters and their stories. I can't fathom why their opinions mean any less than yours.


Quoted for Truth....comic fans forget that sometimes they are not the only audience the show is made for. :p

PJBoy
07-30-2008, 12:45 AM
They don't know or care anything about comics or the mythology, they watch it for the core characters and their stories. I can't fathom why their opinions mean any less than yours.
Ditto Serene!

I have an friend who actually hate Smallvile, just because the mythology thing. I know the mythology and I respect it too, Smallville is a 2.0 Superman story version, and I'm so glad for they have been doing this!

Migu-EL
07-30-2008, 12:47 AM
or the first half of Superman II



why cant people just be fans of the show and stop bickering over rampant stupidity like who makes the best couple w/ Clark? Not to mention the outcome is predetermined of who "wins." It's like going to the track and having 2 of the jockeys tell you before hand that their horses have broken legs, and yet you still bet on them to win. My god, our fandom sucks....

LOL...Too funny, yet so true.:grin:

avengerscaptain
07-30-2008, 01:06 AM
I like the sound of the episode already. Reminds me of the Lois and Clark episode where they had to go undercover as a newlywed couple. :up:


Your avatar is just awesome!

AND I'M NOT FOR ABUSING WOMEN!

It almost looks like they might be having super sex.....GIddy UP!

KBX
07-30-2008, 03:45 AM
Unfortunately, any fandom has its dose of idiotic fans, compulsive bashers, and shippers, which in SV's case, is because of the CW that believes leading characters need to have a love interest to please part of their superficial and dumb female audience. So this year we have more love triangles to keep this type of crap going.

What is even more retarded, is the moronic people that think Chloe will become Lois because the real Lois Lane will die in Smallville. This is really sick, it shows how deranged some people are, but they're just a very tiny minority, most fans laugh at them anyway.

Be careful man, some of what you say may be true, but there are a good amount of female posters around here...

I don't look at this season as more love triangles than ever, I look it at they need to explore these options finally to end all questions or to get it rolling. (Clark/Chloe or Clark/Lois). Its better to open things up and close them forever than to have feelings linger around....

People who want Clark to end up with Chloe are usually the people who do not know anything about comics, which I understand. Most viewers of shows, that happen to involve relationships, get a sense that when the series is over, which 2 persons should end up with each other and I tell you, if it wasn't for mythology or comics, mostly everyone would think Clark would end up with Chloe....

04nbod
07-30-2008, 05:14 AM
There are many layers to fandom suckage, grasshopper. Shipping is but one of them.

"Bastardizing the mythology" claims being another.

;)

Serene, all fandom sucks. Smallville from what I've seen if good natured even if there are arguments(although I admit I'm not behind the closed doors of some areas;))
Doctor Who fandom is awful though. accusations of racism and homophobia fly like no ones business. perspective is a joy to have :D

Mikelus
07-30-2008, 12:25 PM
I know some of these people, very well... my daughter and her friends. :) They aren't "dumb female's" either (offensive, much?). They don't know or care anything about comics or the mythology, they watch it for the core characters and their stories. I can't fathom why their opinions mean any less than yours.

They're misinformed to start with, that's why their opinions are ignorant, Smallville is mainly about how Clark Kent/Kal-El becomes Superman, the mythology of Superman, love triangles are just a CW marketing tool for a very specific demo. If people like a show about a comic book character, is their responsability to know the basics, this would eliminate a lot of the nonsense going on some forums. Ignorance is not good for the mind.

Serene
07-30-2008, 02:52 PM
They're misinformed to start with, that's why their opinions are ignorant, Smallville is mainly about how Clark Kent/Kal-El becomes Superman, the mythology of Superman, love triangles are just a CW marketing tool for a very specific demo. If people like a show about a comic book character, is their responsability to know the basics, this would eliminate a lot of the nonsense going on some forums.

It's a good thing there are dictators like you to tell everyone what their TV viewing responsibilities are.

To think that some lazy slobs are just watching the show regularly and enjoying it for what it is without even being able to read Kryptonian! Shocking, I tell ya. :rolleyes:

Ignorance is not good for the mind.

LOL! Okay.

Mikelus
07-30-2008, 03:54 PM
^^ You're overreacting, if some people prefer cheap angsty drama is their problem, the ones deluding themselves with Clana or Chlark when is going nowhere are just frivolous for ignoring the Superman mythology, like it or not.

mellyM
07-30-2008, 03:55 PM
^^ You're overreacting, if some people prefer cheap angsty drama is their problem, the ones deluding themselves with Clana or Chlark when is going nowhere are just frivolous for ignoring the Superman mythology, like it or not.

Its a tv show, its ok to be frivolous

Brainiac 8
07-30-2008, 04:06 PM
It's a good thing there are dictators like you to tell everyone what their TV viewing responsibilities are.

To think that some lazy slobs are just watching the show regularly and enjoying it for what it is without even being able to read Kryptonian! Shocking, I tell ya. :rolleyes:



LOL! Okay.


Since I am a Superman fanboy, yet I enjoy the show for what it is...a unique retelling of the Superman legend...without griping about the changes, does that make me a lazy slob too? :huh: :csad:


I'm glad that there are people around here to tell me how I should be watching. :up:

Serene
07-30-2008, 04:13 PM
^^ You're overreacting, if some people prefer cheap angsty drama is their problem,

It sounds more like it's your problem. The cheap angsty drama lovers don't care why you watch, why do you care about them?

the ones deluding themselves with Clana or Chlark when is going nowhere are just frivolous for ignoring the Superman mythology, like it or not.

It could also be said that it's frivolous for fans of hardcore Superman mythology to continue to whine about Smallville's history of featuring relationships, when they should know by now that while SV may have the same ultimate destination, it's paving its own path to get there.

boydston_14
07-30-2008, 04:14 PM
^^ You're overreacting, if some people prefer cheap angsty drama is their problem, the ones deluding themselves with Clana or Chlark when is going nowhere are just frivolous for ignoring the Superman mythology, like it or not.

Dude what's your problem? It's a TV show. A TV SHOW. People enjoy watching it for what it is, and if you don't like it, then don't watch it and don't go to a SMALLVILLE forum.

Mikelus
07-30-2008, 05:53 PM
^^ Sorry to break it to you, but I like the show, I'm not one of those compulsive bashers, thank you for not paying attention before posting.

Angsty drama is one of the reasons the show is not as good as it could be, most fans don't like the Clanadrama and the triangles, is the CW that wants that.

Brainiac 8
07-30-2008, 06:24 PM
I never understand how someone can say that "Most Fans" don't like something about a show.

How would you know what most fans like or don't like. Us folks who chat on the internet is a miniscule number compared to the number of people who actually watch the show. :dry:

Mikelus
07-30-2008, 06:55 PM
^^ Yeah right, most fans can't wait for more Clanadrama and plenty of triangles... :whatever:

Webhead2006
07-30-2008, 07:02 PM
Hopefully their wont be much/little angst when kk does return as lana in her 5 episode run.

KBX
07-30-2008, 07:24 PM
The CW does have the whole gossip girl/90210 crowd going, so it wouldn't be out the question if the CW wanted Smallville a little bit more like those shows. But than I look at Supernatural and I think twice about that statement.

You know what, I would think if Smallville was on a channel like SciFi it would be awesome....

boydston_14
07-30-2008, 07:56 PM
^^ Yeah right, most fans can't wait for more Clanadrama and plenty of triangles... :whatever:

Dude get over it. I know I don't like the triangles either but at least I don't pull such a fit over it.

Serene
07-30-2008, 07:59 PM
^^ Yeah right, most fans can't wait for more Clanadrama and plenty of triangles... :whatever:


Perhaps any hint of romance on this show is dismissed as Clanadrama to you, which frankly is your loss, but you don't speak for everyone.

It's no secret that I've always been a Clana fan (watching Hulk cringe at the term. :D), but even I don't expect it to ever be the same drawn out frustrating affair that it was for so long. But I also don't think it was nearly as bad or poorly done in the more recent seasons as some people do, including a lot of Clana fans.

I look forward to Lana coming back and hopefully establishing a really solid life-long and loving relationship with Clark that moves beyond being a couple. They deserve a better resolution to their relationship, and so do the long time fans. You may call it Clanadrama (and I'm sure you will) but I see it as an integral part of the show.

Oh, and LOL if you think this show is done with triangles. :grin:

b24
07-30-2008, 09:20 PM
Mikelus show is targetted at mostly everyone

i think mots of fans who have been watching this show since 2001 grew up

Mikelus
07-30-2008, 09:25 PM
The CW does have the whole gossip girl/90210 crowd going, so it wouldn't be out the question if the CW wanted Smallville a little bit more like those shows. But than I look at Supernatural and I think twice about that statement.

You know what, I would think if Smallville was on a channel like SciFi it would be awesome....

SN is much darker and Eric Kripke won't let the CW ruined it, he does what he really thinks is best for the show. Yes, SV could do better on SciFi, USA Network, you name it, but at least S8 looks good enough despite the silly triangles. :word:

Mikelus
07-30-2008, 09:31 PM
double post

biaaly
08-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Looks like Matt answered my inquiry on Clois in this episode:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Clark-Lois-Kiss/800044546http://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.41/t.gif (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Clark-Lois-Kiss/800044546)

Smallville Exclusive: A Kiss Before Flying?

This season on the CW's Smallville, Clark will go to work at the "Daily Planet," where he'll bump desks with Lois Lane. The predestined set-up understandably has some fans already lobbying for a lip-lock.

Well, there's one coming.

Sources whisper to me that in this season's fifth episode, titled "Committed," Clark and Lois will be "forced" to make like lovebirds as they investigate some strange goings-on involving a crazy guy and a Moment of Truth-esque lie detector "game." It is in the course of this bit of harrowing, shoe-leather reporting that the "Daily" duo find themselves engaged in a smooch.

How real is their clinch? You'll have to wait and see and fiercely debate decide for yourselves. After all, let's not forget that these two have macked on each other before — namely, once when Lo mistook CK for the Green Arrow, and again when she was under the influence of that drugged lipstick.

But perhaps the third time is the charm?

Oh, and the "flying" reference in my headline? That simply sounded good. There's no word yet on when the longstanding "No Flights" policy will be rendered obsolete by the series' new regime. — Matt Mitovich

04nbod
08-05-2008, 04:19 PM
^excellent. Can we move on now? So they lip lock, it will lead to nothing but tension. How about some plot spoilers CW?

KBX
08-05-2008, 04:41 PM
Id rather TPTB spoil little stuff like this than actually plot lines. I mean they usually do talk, a lot, just would be nice if we are surprised once in a while...

04nbod
08-05-2008, 05:38 PM
Id rather TPTB spoil little stuff like this than actually plot lines. I mean they usually do talk, a lot, just would be nice if we are surprised once in a while...

its early in the season, prime time for filler and stories that won't be very important. it shouldn't be difficult to give some stuff that isn't ship related

b24
08-05-2008, 07:33 PM
this episode has shipwar written all over it

expect clois vs chlarkers vs chimmy when this episode airs:)

overall episode seems like fun episode with nice nod to Lois and clark show and Superman 2

and it will be nice to see clark in relax mood in this episode aftre depressive,emo in season 7(specailly in sleeper)

biaaly
08-05-2008, 08:24 PM
this episode has shipwar written all over it

expect clois vs chlarkers vs chimmy when this episode airs:)



:whatever: It does, doesn't it? I hate it.. They should stop pandering to Clois and Chlark at the same time, I'm tired of the shipper wars from it, and I really do NOT want to see any kind of bones thrown to Clark and both cousins, they're family, so its actually pretty squicky, though you wouldn't think Chlo-Lo was family anymore after these past few seasons of barely interacting lol. And I'm tired of seeing Chlark and Chimmy wars, because Clark and Jimmy are supposed to become friends and all anyone says about those two is that one is not good enough for Chloe, or that Chloe should leave Jimmy for Clark (because you know, its all about Chloe).. I don't want to see Clark pining after Jimmy Olsen's gal lol.

b24
08-05-2008, 08:35 PM
^^^ it is ship fans who make big deal out the whole thing

we all know clark will end up with lois by end of series but we have these consiparcy theories how clark loves chloe and both will end up together

Gmanofsteel
08-05-2008, 08:54 PM
They're misinformed to start with, that's why their opinions are ignorant, Smallville is mainly about how Clark Kent/Kal-El becomes Superman, the mythology of Superman, love triangles are just a CW marketing tool for a very specific demo. If people like a show about a comic book character, is their responsability to know the basics, this would eliminate a lot of the nonsense going on some forums. Ignorance is not good for the mind.

Heaven forbid anyone be "ingorant" about a fictional character who flies around in tights . . . .

The Incredible Hulk
08-06-2008, 08:18 AM
maybe Clark will get "twitterpated" from the kiss with Lois and fly?


/hates self for knowing what "twitterpated" means
/watches too many childrens movies nowadays

mellyM
08-06-2008, 08:57 AM
maybe Clark will get "twitterpated" from the kiss with Lois and fly?


/hates self for knowing what "twitterpated" means
/watches too many childrens movies nowadays

Whats twitterpated mean? lol

Brainiac 8
08-06-2008, 09:54 AM
maybe Clark will get "twitterpated" from the kiss with Lois and fly?


/hates self for knowing what "twitterpated" means
/watches too many childrens movies nowadays


haha....you should never be ashamed at watching Loony Toons, kids nowadays don't appreciate what good animation is, since all they have is the horrible wannabe anime junk that is forced down their throats.

I hate modern cartoons.:csad:

mellyM
08-06-2008, 10:51 AM
haha....you should never be ashamed at watching Loony Toons, kids nowadays don't appreciate what good animation is, since all they have is the horrible wannabe anime junk that is forced down their throats.

I hate modern cartoons.:csad:

how can you hate Spongebob?

Brainiac 8
08-06-2008, 11:03 AM
His voice grates on my nerves like nails on a chalkboard. :csad:

Not all modern cartoons are bad, but most of them bug me. Nothing when compared to classic Loony Toons.

"What's Opera Doc" beats out anything ever concieved by Sponge Bob...sorry. ;)

Mikelus
08-06-2008, 11:07 AM
^^^ it is ship fans who make big deal out the whole thing

we all know clark will end up with lois by end of series but we have these consiparcy theories how clark loves chloe and both will end up together

Yep, despite Clark preferring Lana over her... oh, and it seems they love pinning after someone for years. :o
Anyway, TPTB like to play with shippers to keep them watching, nothing new.

Serene
08-06-2008, 02:10 PM
maybe Clark will get "twitterpated" from the kiss with Lois and fly?


I don't think so. Not that he won't get "twitterpated" whatever t.f. that means. :p, but I think/hope his flying will be either a spontaneous thing he just *does* in the act of saving someone, or something that he masters all by himself by determined practicing. I think they'll go for the dramatic factor of the former though, which I'd prefer seeing.

The kiss with Lois was pretty predictable. Didn't he have the same kind of "pretend we're a couple" kiss with Chloe in the early seasons? I can't remember the episode, but it's the one where she had him against the files.

The key difference this time, of course, will be in his response to the kiss from Lois - and vice-versa.


/hates self for knowing what "twitterpated" means
/watches too many childrens movies nowadays

Do I dare mention how into the old Teddy Ruxpin cartoon I was? ;)

Yūgi's BM
08-06-2008, 05:40 PM
Please, y'all don't honestly think Clark will end up with Lana or Chloe, do you?

As for the episode, more Lois means awesome.

biaaly
08-06-2008, 05:41 PM
The kiss with Lois was pretty predictable. Didn't he have the same kind of "pretend we're a couple" kiss with Chloe in the early seasons? I can't remember the episode, but it's the one where she had him against the files.

The key difference this time, of course, will be in his response to the kiss from Lois - and vice-versa.


Yeah I don't think it will cause any air bound results LOL, but can I just say, let it be mutual or let Clark initiate so that it CAN be shown as different from the time Chloe laid one on him in that early episode? Cause I'm getting tired of the "everything Clois is doing now, Chlark has done before, except Chlark did it better" shpeal I keep seeing lol.

Serene
08-06-2008, 05:44 PM
Please, y'all don't honestly think Clark will end up with Lana or Chloe, do you?

:confused:

Did you read something that makes you think that?

mellyM
08-06-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeah I don't think it will cause any air bound results LOL, but can I just say, let it be mutual or let Clark initiate so that it CAN be shown as different from the time Chloe laid one on him in that early episode? Cause I'm getting tired of the "everything Clois is doing now, Chlark has done before, except Chlark did it better" shpeal I keep seeing lol.

Some of those Chlark fans are a scary bunch, how they can just twist everything they see into what they want is fascinating. It seems like it'll be necessary to not blow their cover as a couple, but we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. How people can be upset that Clark is moving towards being with Lois is beyond comprehension, have they not read Superman anything?

The Incredible Hulk
08-06-2008, 07:45 PM
Please, y'all don't honestly think Clark will end up with Lana or Chloe, do you?

As for the episode, more Lois means awesome.


you're from Washington state and you use the word "y'all?" :huh:

Yūgi's BM
08-06-2008, 11:24 PM
Does it really matter? I speak/type depending on how I feel. I tend to know a copious amount of words.

kal_el_526
08-07-2008, 07:47 AM
Some of those Chlark fans are a scary bunch, how they can just twist everything they see into what they want is fascinating. It seems like it'll be necessary to not blow their cover as a couple, but we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. How people can be upset that Clark is moving towards being with Lois is beyond comprehension, have they not read Superman anything?

Not me lol I couldnt be happier, I just wish there was a way for them to be a couple but that dont seem like it would work while he's still just Clark and not Superman

The Incredible Hulk
08-07-2008, 08:06 AM
Does it really matter? I speak/type depending on how I feel. I tend to know a copious amount of words.

just odd seeing southern vernacular come from someone from the Northwest, not to mention its not really a word to begin with, but i digress...

ariellem
08-08-2008, 12:43 AM
Boo-hiss, Mikelus, on the female-bashing. Grow up.

As for Chloe/Clark - yes, he'll be with Lois in the end, we know. Since Season 1, though, I've always felt bad for "best friend" Chloe constantly getting overlooked/ignored/pushed aside/abandoned for more-perfect, more-angelic Lana. I've enjoyed the few Clark & Chloe moments the show has had and would be happy if TPTB threw them together as a pair again this season, even briefly. Clark will likely be the one who gets let down this round (whether immediately or over time may depend on Jimmy's situation), but at least he'll finally have given it a chance. Or maybe Clark will give it a chance and realize he feels more for Lois - and that Chloe feels more for Jimmy after all and thus is truly "over" Clark and they can really be friends without hard feelings under the surface. No more secrets, no more lies, no more pretending.

ariellem
08-08-2008, 12:43 AM
...

kal_el_526
08-08-2008, 07:46 AM
Boo-hiss, Mikelus, on the female-bashing. Grow up.

As for Chloe/Clark - yes, he'll be with Lois in the end, we know. Since Season 1, though, I've always felt bad for "best friend" Chloe constantly getting overlooked/ignored/pushed aside/abandoned for more-perfect, more-angelic Lana. I've enjoyed the few Clark & Chloe moments the show has had and would be happy if TPTB threw them together as a pair again this season, even briefly. Clark will likely be the one who gets let down this round (whether immediately or over time may depend on Jimmy's situation), but at least he'll finally have given it a chance. Or maybe Clark will give it a chance and realize he feels more for Lois - and that Chloe feels more for Jimmy after all and thus is truly "over" Clark and they can really be friends without hard feelings under the surface. No more secrets, no more lies, no more pretending.

I really like that idea. Extremely well put IMO.

biaaly
08-08-2008, 11:03 AM
I don't like the idea.. I think Clark going from one cousin to the other would be squicky, plus the fact that the Chlark dynamic is not what it used to be (then again they even ruined my Chlo-Lo cousin-ship which I didn't think was possible). I used to love their friendship pre-season 6, but then Chloe started taking on the role of Jonathan and in season 7 the role of Martha, plus doing everything for him that he should know how to do himself, practically telling him he should kill Lex.. I don't know, its not just cause I'm not as big a fan of Chloe as I used to be, I just don't think they fit well together, as maybe they would have back in season 5 after she learned the secret but was still the same old Chloe who didn't worship him or call him all these references to God and whatnot like she did last season. Its too weird now.

Yūgi's BM
08-08-2008, 04:45 PM
just odd seeing southern vernacular come from someone from the Northwest, not to mention its not really a word to begin with, but i digress...

Ah well, it's a thing.

Serene
08-08-2008, 04:57 PM
Boo-hiss, Mikelus, on the female-bashing. Grow up.

As for Chloe/Clark - yes, he'll be with Lois in the end, we know. Since Season 1, though, I've always felt bad for "best friend" Chloe constantly getting overlooked/ignored/pushed aside/abandoned for more-perfect, more-angelic Lana. I've enjoyed the few Clark & Chloe moments the show has had and would be happy if TPTB threw them together as a pair again this season, even briefly. Clark will likely be the one who gets let down this round (whether immediately or over time may depend on Jimmy's situation), but at least he'll finally have given it a chance. Or maybe Clark will give it a chance and realize he feels more for Lois - and that Chloe feels more for Jimmy after all and thus is truly "over" Clark and they can really be friends without hard feelings under the surface. No more secrets, no more lies, no more pretending.

What bothers me about all that is how it feels like it's pandering to the Chloe fans out there as opposed to actually staying true to the actual established canon of the show.

Why should Clark have to be "let down" by Chloe? As a payback of sorts? But Clark never did anything that deserved getting paid back by Chloe - he was very honest with her on more than one occasion about not returning the same feelings for her that she carried for him.

I agree that it would be GREAT for them to put any of the romantic Chlark notions to bed finally, but I really don't want to see Clark having any sudden realizations that he's really in love with Chloe after all these years. That just diminishes him and his own sincerity. So, he's over Lana, Chloe kicks him to the curb... and that's why he's suddenly ready for Lois? Just. No. He chose to love Lana, and he will choose to love Lois.

I think what would make more sense, and how I'd rather see them handle this, is for Clark to feel some pangs of loss over not having Chloe being in his backpocket as readily as she's always been. Sure, he loves her, but as one loves a best friend that they rely on to always be there. I'm fine with her deciding to finally move on from her feelings for Clark, for herself, but not in a way that diminishes Clark in the process. Ultimately, Clark would be very happy for Chloe moving on to something that makes her happy and fulfilled. He's just that kinda guy. :)

Mikelus
08-08-2008, 05:33 PM
Some people are getting confused with spoilers, there's nothing romantic between Clark and Chloe. The Fever letter is just to create tension between Jimmy and Chloe (with Clark involved), but is the typical one episode thing. Jimmy and Chloe will be engaged, then Davis Bloome (Doomsday) will be really interested in Chloe, that's the main triangle this season (some call it Choomy). Then Clark and Lois will get closer as the season progresses, like TPTB said, Clark will feel lonely but Lois will be there for him, then Lana comes back and voilà, bad timing, more tension and you know the rest, typical SV. But I don't think there will be romantic Clois either, unless the famous restrictions of DC are lifted.

herolee10
08-09-2008, 03:49 PM
Something that a forum user reported Craig saying at the TWOP:

On Twop.

"Just to be clear from what I'd posted before... Lois is a supporter of a romantic Chlark pairing. Especially when comparing it to the alternative.

I don't think we'll be seeing a repeat of Season 2, in that Chloe will walk in on them kissing, but someone else will see it happening and be puzzled. (No, not Jimmy either) It's all part of the charade, and no different than the early seasons when Chloe and Clark would kiss to throw someone off the trail.

For a Lois & Clark comparison, I'd see "Commited" as somewhere between "Honeymoon in Metropolis" and "Just Say Noah."

biaaly
08-09-2008, 04:32 PM
Something that a forum user reported Craig saying at the TWOP:

On Twop.

"Just to be clear from what I'd posted before... Lois is a supporter of a romantic Chlark pairing. Especially when comparing it to the alternative.



Comparing to the alternative? Like what? Chimmy? Herself and Clark? Watch it just be some throw away line. I mean seriously, up until this point, she has always seemed supportive of Clana, and actually used to tell Chloe to move on and that she can do better.. now all of a sudden shes supportive? When Chloe is 'supposedly' happy and engaged to Jimmy? That makes no sense..

rowan sjet
08-09-2008, 05:46 PM
now all of a sudden shes supportive? When Chloe is 'supposedly' happy and engaged to Jimmy? That makes no sense..
Yes, because Smallville always makes sense.

Lunar_Wolf
08-09-2008, 06:55 PM
Eh, just hope it's a good filler.

Webhead2006
09-13-2008, 01:01 PM
Episode #8-5: "Committed" October 16, 2008

Written By: Bryan Miller
Directed By: Glen Winter

biaaly
09-13-2008, 02:10 PM
^^ Thanks, he must be new? I looked it up on IMDB and hes not listed under the series writer credits.

mellyM
09-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Comparing to the alternative? Like what? Chimmy? Herself and Clark? Watch it just be some throw away line. I mean seriously, up until this point, she has always seemed supportive of Clana, and actually used to tell Chloe to move on and that she can do better.. now all of a sudden shes supportive? When Chloe is 'supposedly' happy and engaged to Jimmy? That makes no sense..

Maybe Maxima?

Webhead2006
09-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Hopefully this guy has a good script. We dont need another lousy writer on the show like that holly harold chick or a few others.

mellyM
09-26-2008, 06:29 AM
Official Description:

CHLOE TELLS JIMMY HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT CLARK — After they leave their engagement party, Chloe (Allison Mack) and Jimmy (Aaron Ashmore) are abducted by a psychotic jeweler (guest star David Lewis) who was emotionally scarred by his wife's infidelity and is now kidnapping couples and subjecting them to a kryptonite-enhanced lie detector that shocks them if they lie. The abductor asks Chloe if she is in love with anyone else- Meanwhile, in an effort to find Chloe and Jimmy, Clark (Tom Welling) and Lois (Erica Durance) pose as a couple and are kidnapped themselves then, asked how they feel about each other. Allison Mack and Erica Durance also star. Glen Winter directed the episode written by Bryan Q. Miller (#3T7455)

Brainiac 8
09-26-2008, 07:48 AM
It sounds like it could be a cute episode, and I like how this one will refer back to older continuity (and one of my favorite Chloe moments.)

The description is poorly written though. :o

Prison Mike
09-26-2008, 07:55 AM
wow. on the surface, it sounds like a bad episode. but maybe it will further along the overall plot of Clark and Lois.

Darknightnomis
09-26-2008, 11:39 AM
Every since Eric Duranance been on the show I ALWAYS thought she and Tom Welling had the best chemistry between them than when Clark was with Lana or Chloe anyone else he may have been invovled with.

This episode should be fun.

Webhead2006
09-26-2008, 07:57 PM
Already posted my mistake.

Cmill216
09-26-2008, 08:13 PM
We know.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15723757&postcount=98

Webhead2006
09-26-2008, 08:19 PM
oh sorry i didnt see it was posted earlier.

04nbod
09-27-2008, 02:23 AM
the synopsis doesn't have me excited. Its 'Everybody Loves Clark' and I can't be bothered with that

KBX
09-27-2008, 02:35 AM
^^ Come on now, hes Superman! everyone loves Superman.

04nbod
09-27-2008, 08:06 AM
^^ Come on now, hes Superman! everyone loves Superman.

I'm indifferent to him, sometimes he's good sometimes he's a bore.

Prison Mike
09-27-2008, 10:18 AM
the synopsis doesn't have me excited. Its 'Everybody Loves Clark' and I can't be bothered with that

it's because of the farm. chicks dig the farm. :oldrazz:

04nbod
09-27-2008, 10:39 AM
it's because of the farm. chicks dig the farm. :oldrazz:

Chicks dig shelby. Its the only time the poor mutt gets to come out when Clark's trying to get some!

kal_el_526
09-27-2008, 06:18 PM
I'm excited to see exactly what Clark and Lois say about each other lol

PaulWalker
10-07-2008, 03:33 PM
New promo photos
http://spoilertv-smallville.blogspot.com/2008/10/episode-805-committed-promotional.html

KBX
10-07-2008, 06:32 PM
^ Mr. Fast and the Furious..

I really wonder if TPTB never had the rights to use kryptonite, how much of the story lines over the years would have changed....

Webhead2006
10-07-2008, 11:05 PM
Saw the photos, look very nice. I do say in the earlier seasons 1-4 more so their was way to many episodes involving kryptonite this and kryptonite that. I am glad since then there has been lesser episodes about kryptonsite things.

kal_el_526
10-08-2008, 05:59 AM
Nice promo pics

barnface
10-09-2008, 07:30 PM
Is anyone, for some reason, really excited for this episode? Maybe, it's just the spoiler about how Clark and Lois are asked how they feel about each other, even though some huge explosion will happen before they can answer...

barnface
10-09-2008, 07:30 PM
Whoops, I meant is anyone else besides me

kal_el_526
10-11-2008, 12:07 PM
oh so they dont answer? It looked like in the promo lois did but there good at fooling us

The Caped Knight
10-11-2008, 12:19 PM
Is anyone, for some reason, really excited for this episode? Maybe, it's just the spoiler about how Clark and Lois are asked how they feel about each other, even though some huge explosion will happen before they can answer...

I'm excited to see how their going to handle Lois & Clark revealing their secret feelings for each other (Which will bring a realization to Clark that not only does he have very strong feelings for Lois Lane. But she does too for him .) While also Foreshadowing Lois Lane / Superman / Clark Kent love triangle, the Legendary Love between Lois & Clark and them being soulmates . :super:

MAN O STEEL
10-12-2008, 03:10 AM
Just when I thought Smallville was back in good hands & on the right track, we end up with 2 weeks of horrible eps. Toxic was pointless filler garbage that wasn't even slightly entertaining & Instinct also was just freak of the week type material, just replace a well respected DC villian with a meteor infected person & whalla!. & now? being kidnapped by a bad man who submitts them to a lie detector test at such a convenient time when Clark & Lois start having feelings for each other. Ohhhhhhh soapie show tention Ohhhhhhhhh. http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif. get back to whats most important in the superman mythos & that is clarks development into becoming superman & if you HAVE to have a filler ep atleast make it slightly interesting so we aren't bored out of our skulls.





Steve

COMPO
10-12-2008, 08:43 AM
well it would be good if they actually did admit their feelings cos then they could go other places either have them have a relationship but it doesn't work out cos they both afraid they might wreck their working relationship (I don't think it would be cos Clark's lying cos I think he'd learn from Lana a bit).

kal_el_526
10-12-2008, 12:57 PM
Just when I thought Smallville was back in good hands & on the right track, we end up with 2 weeks of horrible eps. Toxic was pointless filler garbage that wasn't even slightly entertaining & Instinct also was just freak of the week type material, just replace a well respected DC villian with a meteor infected person & whalla!. & now? being kidnapped by a bad man who submitts them to a lie detector test at such a convenient time when Clark & Lois start having feelings for each other. Ohhhhhhh soapie show tention Ohhhhhhhhh. http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif. get back to whats most important in the superman mythos & that is clarks development into becoming superman & if you HAVE to have a filler ep atleast make it slightly interesting so we aren't bored out of our skulls.





Steve


Speak for yourself on that one. I wasn't bored out of my skull at all this season. Toxic wasn't great but it was interesting we never got to see Ollie's back story. And Instinct was great I thought a lot of hot scenes lol Clark and Lois stuff Clark back in his red jacket which I love. D.C Character Maxima, and the whole X thing at the end. I actually really liked that ep. And im excited for Committed. Prey sounds Awesome. Identity? Cant wait. All the episodes have me excited so im sorry but this season has been great and only seems to be getting better.

PaulWalker
10-12-2008, 03:06 PM
Sneak Peek for 8.05
http://spoilertv-smallville.blogspot.com/2008/10/episode-805-committed-sneak-peek.html

The Caped Knight
10-12-2008, 09:28 PM
Sneak Peek for 8.05
http://spoilertv-smallville.blogspot.com/2008/10/episode-805-committed-sneak-peek.html

Whoa !!!! Chloe receives a static shock to her system .

Valerie_f4
10-14-2008, 01:53 PM
Is this the halloween eppy?

Lunar_Wolf
10-14-2008, 09:13 PM
Anything with Clark and Lois is great, both Tom and Erica have amazing chemistry.

Webhead2006
10-14-2008, 11:07 PM
actually no episodes so far for this season have been stated to take place on certain holiday but you can say it is halloween episode if u want even though in smallville's time period the episode is likely taking place in july/aug period since it was a may to june ish from finale to premiere.

Valerie_f4
10-14-2008, 11:22 PM
anything with tom and erica are great, because I laugh knowing what's going to happen. lois and clark. lol

sunflowercyn
10-15-2008, 11:33 PM
Canadian Trailer for COMMITTED by the SPACE channel

aired on October 15 2008

*credit sunflowercyn* if you share :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df8i4XfPN7s

Valerie_f4
10-15-2008, 11:50 PM
doesn't show up, do you have a link?

Webhead2006
10-15-2008, 11:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df8i4XfPN7s here is the link for the trailer, and it was pretty good.

Valerie_f4
10-16-2008, 10:29 AM
thanks, that looks good.
Today is my day!!!
whoa!

KBX
10-16-2008, 04:26 PM
Well, not really looking forward to this one. Rest of the episodes seem more interesting to my liking, so hopefully this one comes up with a nice surprise...

The Lois and Clark anvils will be flying in this one, I bet.

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 06:54 PM
6 mintues :D

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 07:05 PM
drunk lois is hilarious!

Savage
10-16-2008, 07:05 PM
That has to be the most adorable death I've ever seen.

AndThePickles
10-16-2008, 07:06 PM
I actually agreed with Lois..."Chloe and Jimmy" has never seemed sincere.

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:07 PM
I loved Clark in that teaser. Whatever they've done to Tom this season, the dude looks a lot older and more mature than he's been before. They've clearly let the character grow this year.

AndThePickles
10-16-2008, 07:08 PM
I loved Clark in that teaser. Whatever they've done to Tom this season, the dude looks a lot older and more mature than he's been before. They've clearly let the character grow this year.

I think he finally looks his age, haha.

Havok83
10-16-2008, 07:10 PM
I didnt much care for Lois before, but Im loving her this season. I think they are really letting her shine with Lana gone

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:10 PM
Justin!!!

gtkilla
10-16-2008, 07:15 PM
It's a little embarrassing when the writers blatantly rip off other shows/movies..:O

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:17 PM
So far so good, really. Justin's back, Lois and Clark are doing their Lois and Clark thing.

I didn't recognize the writer's name. A freelancer?

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 07:17 PM
It's a little embarrassing when the writers blatantly rip off other shows/movies..:O

would you mind explaining? :confused:

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:19 PM
would you mind explaining? :confused:

I think he's talking about Heroes. ;) :D

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 07:20 PM
Man Lois is really letting "the girls" loose tonight

aye curumba...:eek:

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 07:23 PM
I think he's talking about Heroes. ;) :D
Not sure I get what it "copied" from Heroes? :huh: Although its a bit ironic accusing someone of "ripping off" Heroes since that show hasnt had an original idea yet.

King Ruler
10-16-2008, 07:24 PM
Whoa whoa whoa....are we watching "Smallville" or "Saw"?

AndThePickles
10-16-2008, 07:26 PM
would you mind explaining? :confused:

Pretty sure he meant the Saw films.

I loved the Welling-smirk when Lois asked him to marry her, haha.

gtkilla
10-16-2008, 07:27 PM
would you mind explaining? :confused:
Whoa whoa whoa....are we watching "Smallville" or "Saw"?
Do you get it now? :p

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:27 PM
Not sure I get what it "copied" from Heroes? :huh: Although its a bit ironic accusing someone of "ripping off" Heroes since that show hasnt had an original idea yet.

Naw Hulk. I was making a riff on Heroes.

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 07:28 PM
"how about this one pumkin"
"It looks like its you muffin"

:D

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 07:29 PM
ollie . . . . . . BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Savage
10-16-2008, 07:33 PM
...Wow, they're both so horrible.

King Ruler
10-16-2008, 07:33 PM
They make Oliver more like Bruce every episode I swear.

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 07:33 PM
Not getting the Saw thing? Is every abduction scene in a movie or TV show now suddenly Saw because its popular? :confused: The episode Mercy I could see the connection to Saw because the abductor made them play "games" but what's the similarity here?

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 07:34 PM
we have just witnessed: "Teliver" :p

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 07:36 PM
we have just witnessed: "Teliver" :p

I prefer "Oless"

/shoots self in head

Savage
10-16-2008, 07:37 PM
Not getting the Saw thing? Is every abduction scene in a movie or TV show now suddenly Saw because its popular? :confused: The episode Mercy I could see the connection to Saw because the abductor made them play "games" but what's the similarity here?

Abduct people, torture them in creative ways, dank, green setting, torture is related to people not appreciating what they have, etc.

King Ruler
10-16-2008, 07:37 PM
Not getting the Saw thing? Is every abduction scene in a movie or TV show now suddenly Saw because its popular? :confused: The episode Mercy I could see the connection to Saw because the abductor made them play "games" but what's the similarity here?

You're kidding me, right?

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 07:41 PM
Abduct people, torture them in creative ways, dank, green setting, torture is related to people not appreciating what they have, etc.

And you think "Saw" invented those concepts? :huh: I'd suggest watching back episodes of the Twilight Zone, and Alfred Hitchcock Presents and reading a few early Stephen King books.

Savage
10-16-2008, 07:42 PM
You can name other movies/shows that use all of those concepts together, in one story, before Saw?

Grif
10-16-2008, 07:42 PM
Oh come on :o

Savage
10-16-2008, 07:43 PM
Wow, that easy to get him to take his mask off? Store clerks must use that method more often.

And why is kryptonite so easy to come across?

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:47 PM
I love this episode...but that bracelet has got to be one of the most asinine plot contrivances I've seen on SV.

King Ruler
10-16-2008, 07:47 PM
So I wonder if they're gonna explain why the **** he has a kryptonite bracelet....

gtkilla
10-16-2008, 07:48 PM
omgomg! :eek:

The Guardian
10-16-2008, 07:49 PM
AAWWWWWW THAT WAS AWESOME!!!:heart::D:up:

AndThePickles
10-16-2008, 07:49 PM
I love this episode...but that bracelet has got to be one of the most asinine plot contrivances I've seen on SV.

Yeah, that was really bad :csad:

The Chris
10-16-2008, 07:50 PM
and just for that scene, I love this episode.

BeserkerHilf
10-16-2008, 07:51 PM
i stand by it, smallville still has some fire burning after all these years while heroes is really struggling

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 07:51 PM
And why is kryptonite so easy to come across?

LOL You're still asking that question after 8 years? :confused:

I love this episode...but that bracelet has got to be one of the most asinine plot contrivances I've seen on SV.

So I wonder if they're gonna explain why the **** he has a kryptonite bracelet....

He was a jeweler. We've seen multiple times on the show like in Whisper, Red, etc. where the people have used the meteor rocks in jewelery. Hell in the comics, Lex got cancer in his hand from having a kryptonite ring. It may have been somewhat silly and "convenient" but it wasnt unprecedented.

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:54 PM
He was a jeweler. We've seen multiple times on the show like in Whisper, Red, etc. where the people have used the meteor rocks in jewelery. Hell in the comics, Lex got cancer in his hand from having a kryptonite ring.

Ah, you know I really didn't think about that. That's a tad more acceptable.

King Ruler
10-16-2008, 07:55 PM
Yeah but there was a reason why he had that krypto-ring. He knew it was Superman's weakness. This lucky SOB just so happened to have a radioactive rock in his jewelry.

BeserkerHilf
10-16-2008, 07:55 PM
wait, i missed it. what did jimmy just confess?

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 07:56 PM
someone please ask justin to stop flexing his chest :O

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 07:56 PM
Does Hartley have it in his contract to be naked every single week?

The Chris
10-16-2008, 07:57 PM
Ha. Ha. He just went Chris Reeve on us!

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 07:57 PM
"statistically" :D

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 07:58 PM
did Clark just hit Lois with the "statistically speaking this is the safer way to travel" line? Ughh

King Ruler
10-16-2008, 08:00 PM
Next week's ep. looks awesome.

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 08:00 PM
did Clark just hit Lois with the "statistically speaking this is the safer way to travel" line? Ughh

At least he sounded cool when he said it, not like the last guy to say it ;)

Cmill216
10-16-2008, 08:01 PM
Erica and Tom FTW. They, by themselves, have made this season instantly better than last.

This is the second week in a row that I've been pleasantly surprised. The show is definitely on point this season.

The Guardian
10-16-2008, 08:04 PM
Erica and Tom FTW. They, by themselves, have made this season instantly better than last.

This is the second week in a row that I've been pleasantly surprised. The show is definitely on point this season.

AGREED, THIS ONE WAS AWESOME AND NEXT WEEK DOOMSDAY!!!:D:up:

spark627
10-16-2008, 08:05 PM
Great ep, but some things didnt make sense....

-Clark touched the bracelet and didn't have any effect on him
-He used his heat vision in front of Lois, broke out of the chains in front of her and she saw NOTHING AT ALL?

Otherwise, great ep. Tom and Erica are awesome together... So was Lois lying about taking off the finger sensor or not?

SpideyVille
10-16-2008, 08:06 PM
Ha. Ha. He just went Chris Reeve on us!

"statistically" :D
I loved that part :woot::up:
Next week's ep. looks awesome.
Agreed. I'd say it's about time they bring in Doomsday, but at the same time it makes me wonder what's gonna happed with Doomsday for the rest of the season.
At least he sounded cool when he said it, not like the last guy to say it ;)
Agreed:oldrazz:

Erica and Tom FTW. They, by themselves, have made this season instantly better than last.

This is the second week in a row that I've been pleasantly surprised. The show is definitely on point this season.
Yea, the Lois and Clark stuff have been great this season and IMO it's made most of the episodes a whole lot better.

SpideyVille
10-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Great ep, but some things didnt make sense....

-Clark touched the bracelet and didn't have any effect on him
-He used his heat vision in front of Lois, broke out of the chains in front of her and she saw NOTHING AT ALL?

Otherwise, great ep. Tom and Erica are awesome together... So was Lois lying about taking off the finger sensor or not?
Yea, not his greatest escape, tho i don't think heat vision is visible to the naked eye.

And Lois was so lying about that, tho I'm curious as to what Clark's answer would have been.

gtkilla
10-16-2008, 08:12 PM
LUFFED this episode! :D

The Chris
10-16-2008, 08:12 PM
Oh she was so lying. If she really took the finger sensor off, she could have said no. She's in Love. Thank god.

The Incredible Hulk
10-16-2008, 08:12 PM
I didnt think Lois saw anything that Clark did because of the smoke/steam that filled the room when Clark heat-visioned the pipe?

spark627
10-16-2008, 08:14 PM
I didnt think Lois saw anything that Clark did because of the smoke/steam that filled the room when Clark heat-visioned the pipe?

Right, but wouldnt she see the fire from his eyes since he was about 5 feet in front of her

Grif
10-16-2008, 08:14 PM
I think Clark activated his super speed before doing anything else which no human sees

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 08:15 PM
Right, but wouldnt she see the fire from his eyes since he was about 5 feet in front of her

I'd assume her attention had turned to the guy after clark had hit him.

Mikelus
10-16-2008, 08:40 PM
You could say Lois was looking at the guy while Clark used heat vision or that it is invisible to the human eye.

AgentPat
10-16-2008, 09:12 PM
Awesome episode. :up:

LOVED seeing Lois in Clark's old \8/ football jersey. Heh. Nice. :grin:

I was bored with all of the Tess/Oliver scenes. Well, except for the duel; that was well done. (Though the resolution was predictable.) Not sure why they're drilling those character's backstories though. In fact, I'm not sure why Jimmy's parent's are that important to the big picture either, or why their background deserved five minutes of precious screen time. C'mon show; stick to the mains, k?

Moving on...

Part of me giggled like a five year old at the "statistically speaking" line. My other half wanted to hurt somebody. :dry: I was completely pulled out of the fiction with that homage, especially since it was so eyeroll worthy the last time I heard it.

I didn't see Saw and generally have zero interest in those kinds of films, so I could give a flying squirrel how much the writers ripped off -- or didn't as the case might be. I was however completely sucked into the action in Committed. I bought the Kryptonite bracelet without a flinch. After all, the Kryptonite-as-jewelry approach has been a SV signature since the very first episode (Lana's necklace). Other episodes to use the same concept have been Red, Whisper, Vengeance, and Tomb. So it's not without precedence. Besides, it was better than the antagonist using a Kryptonite-powered lie-detector. LOL

Anyhoo, great ep. SV is fun again. :)

Hush
10-16-2008, 09:21 PM
Clarks heat vision can not be seen by the naked eye, this has been established in the past. The episode he sets the Talon ablaze with Lana she didnt see a thing.

Oh and great episode 5/5

Gmanofsteel
10-16-2008, 09:22 PM
I have to admit, I've yet to be disapointed. This season Smallville is going 5 for 5 :D

blksuperman2
10-16-2008, 09:39 PM
Anyhoo, great ep. SV is fun again. :)

Amen to that Pat. This has been a fun ride this season. Usually by the 3rd - 4th (filler) eps SV starts to go downhill but I look forward to each upcoming ep. I kinda liked CK's elevator line. TBH I also liked it when Routh did it but heh. I'm silly like dat.

Syncos
10-16-2008, 10:22 PM
Right, but wouldnt she see the fire from his eyes since he was about 5 feet in front of her

Clark's heat vision is just that, heat. It's not actual fire coming from his eyes. The visual is just there so that the viewers at home can visualize it.
It's not visible and that's been shown a few times.


I didn't see Saw and generally have zero interest in those kinds of films, so I could give a flying squirrel how much the writers ripped off -- or didn't as the case might be. I was however completely sucked into the action in Committed. I bought the Kryptonite bracelet without a flinch. After all, the Kryptonite-as-jewelry approach has been a SV signature since the very first episode (Lana's necklace). Other episodes to use the same concept have been Red, Whisper, Vengeance, and Tomb. So it's not without precedence. Besides, it was better than the antagonist using a Kryptonite-powered lie-detector. LOL

Anyhoo, great ep. SV is fun again. :)

This one wasn't nearly as much of a ripoff of Saw as Season 5's "No Mercy" episode was. It worked a lot better (both times actually) than I expected.

All in all pretty great episode.

LostSon88
10-16-2008, 10:52 PM
I have to admit, I've yet to be disapointed. This season Smallville is going 5 for 5 :D

Agreed. Smallville hasn't been this fun to watch since season 2!!!

Its slowly becoming my favorite show...again.

And I absolutely LOVED that last scene.

b24
10-16-2008, 11:35 PM
episode was good

but after seeing prey's trailer

all i have to say wholy ****:wow::wow:

now that's what i m talking about

b24
10-16-2008, 11:36 PM
i loved the clark's statistically speaking this the safest way to travel

b24
10-16-2008, 11:36 PM
i loved the clark's statistically speaking this the safest way to travel

NewYorkSpider
10-16-2008, 11:44 PM
I really enjoyed this episode. Reminded be a bit of the SAW franchise with some things switched around. I loved it when Clark said " It's the safer way to travel".

I'd probably rank the episodes like this so far.

1. Odyssey
2. Committed
3. Instinct
4. Plastique
5. Toxic

And Tom and Erica have done a tremendous job this season.

Mikelus
10-16-2008, 11:47 PM
Awesome episode. :up:

LOVED seeing Lois in Clark's old \8/ football jersey. Heh. Nice. :grin:

I was bored with all of the Tess/Oliver scenes. Well, except for the duel; that was well done. (Though the resolution was predictable.) Not sure why they're drilling those character's backstories though. In fact, I'm not sure why Jimmy's parent's are that important to the big picture either, or why their background deserved five minutes of precious screen time. C'mon show; stick to the mains, k?



I think the Olitess scenes were pretty good, it adds tension and should have consequences down the line, specially once Tess villain league starts creating havoc, there could be a very tough, emotional confrontation between them later in the season, so they have plenty of potential as characters. I agree the Chimmy is kind of the weakest link, but as long as episodes are not centered on them like "Sleeper", it should be fine.

The episode was really fun, what a difference from last year Clanadrama crap. We could say that the first five episodes of this season beat the ones from last year, even the weakest from the pack 8.03 "Toxic", was better than 7.03 "Fierce", and next week looks pretty good. S8 is the best one since S5 IMO, that's why it should be the last to avoid dragging Clark's story without reason, he's ready to be Superman now.

Zing79
10-16-2008, 11:48 PM
As has been stated: SV hasn't been this good in a long time. Even eps that I think have the potential to bore me to tears still end up being enjoyable.

Another has been stated moment: Tom as Clark, Erica as Lois - hole e **** they can chew scenery together. Any time those two are on screen together I seem to get a giant arse grin on my face without even realizing it.

It's amazing. Based on how rejuvenated it feels I think if they let loose the restrictions* I fully believe they could keep this show on the air another 3-4 years without it outstaying its welcome. If you had asked me that before this year started I NEVER would have said the preceding.

*meaning they let this turn into a Superman show.

Cmill216
10-17-2008, 12:06 AM
I was just glad to see Oliver back interacting with the rest of the characters outside of his JL duties.

SpideyVille
10-17-2008, 12:16 AM
I think the Olitess scenes were pretty good, it adds tension and should have consequences down the line, specially once Tess villain league starts creating havoc, there could be a very tough, emotional confrontation between them later in the season, so they have plenty of potential as characters.
That's a good point, assuming that's where they're headed. Also, if my memory serves me right, Tess doesn't know that Oliver is GA, so the moment that she finds out could be big, esp since she claims he hasn't done anything like with his life like Lex has.

javphonic
10-17-2008, 12:18 AM
i loved the clark's statistically speaking this the safest way to travel

me too

I really enjoyed this episode. Reminded be a bit of the SAW franchise....
And Tom and Erica have done a tremendous job this season.

I agree, blurted it out while watching

This season is turning out really good, most series get stale by now, but it seems Clark's move to Metropolis as well as an adjustment in cast has really refreshed the show, I hope the momentum continues

LostSon88
10-17-2008, 12:28 AM
I really credit Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin, and Darren Swimmer.

Miles & Millar were holding back the show's potential for far too long.

Webhead2006
10-17-2008, 12:32 AM
Well i thought it was a pretty decent episode. Nothing bad to really say about the episode itself. I loved that lois got drunk at the start of the episode and then ended up at clark's and when she woke up she thought he and she got it on. That was a pretty funny scene there.

As for jimmy/chloe i know alot of people hate the relationship with them and i do too at times but tonight it wasnt that bad. There scenes were pretty good together and you can see how much they really do like each other. There scenes with the kidnapper were pretty good too. I liked the chairs/electric shocks on lies. That was pretty niffty there.

I loved the sub-plot with lois/clark decided to be a fake couple to get on the trail of the kidnapper. The scene in the jewlery store where they pretended to be a couple was very funny and so classic that ollie walked in then and they had to play up the getting married thing.

As for tess/ollie i wonder where they are going with them? Its a bit weird to see ollie hooking up with her when he knows she is pretty bad person right now and all that. It was pretty great to see lois reveal she does really love clark, to bad we didnt see clark answer his question. Though i thought it was a pretty creative way how he got rid of the kryptonite braclet the guy had on, and took him out.

As for next week's episode it looks very promising and i hope we do get to see a good glimpse of doomsday form.

Also what did jimmy say about his family, my sister called me during that scene and i didnt catch all of his lines.

LostSon88
10-17-2008, 12:35 AM
That he lied about them...that his father is in reality a dead-beat drunk and he's actually doesn't know his mother.

Basically that everything he told Chloe about his family was a lie.

Webhead2006
10-17-2008, 12:38 AM
ok thanks as i said i didnt fully catch what he said due to my sister calling me.

b24
10-17-2008, 02:02 AM
i liked how clark beat up that villian

1st he headbutted him freed himself, and when that killer got up clark was standing infront of him literrly staring at him like saying"i m gonna kick your a** now"

also i have to say clark has been really proactive this seseaon or what unlike last previous seseoans where he was proactive in one episode then next he was lovesick i don't care about my destiny

even this seseaon when lana returns he doesn't seem to regress back because spoilers of legion and buletproof suggest calrk is still heroic self even after lana returns

b24
10-17-2008, 02:03 AM
That he lied about them...that his father is in reality a dead-beat drunk and he's actually doesn't know his mother.

Basically that everything he told Chloe about his family was a lie.

at 1st i thought he was gonna either say

"i am gay"

or

"i am batman"

LostSon88
10-17-2008, 02:09 AM
Anyone notice Clark's little squirm after Lois answered, "Yes."...like he was totally expecting to be shocked. Then the quick WTF look he gave when he wasn't...

I thought that was funny.

javphonic
10-17-2008, 06:34 AM
Anyone notice Clark's little squirm after Lois answered, "Yes."...like he was totally expecting to be shocked. Then the quick WTF look he gave when he wasn't...

I thought that was funny.

I lol'd too, very funny

and that was so unslick when Lois spun the story in the elevator and Clark bought it... sighs

Superfreak
10-17-2008, 07:07 AM
KEEP THE STREAK ALIVE

very impressed with the season so far... if they can keep this up over all 20 episodes I will be very happy

The Caped Knight
10-17-2008, 07:09 AM
This episode continues to prove what I've been saying from since the very start of this season Lois & Clark are the main reason for Season 8 Super success .

Erica & Tom were Outstanding in this episode .

Captainhulk
10-17-2008, 07:46 AM
For some reason I want Lois to know about clark.

The Incredible Hulk
10-17-2008, 07:49 AM
you know what I thought of this morning, with Lois' little comment to Clark in the elevator about how she "slipped the censor off her finger." She was completely full of it. Why, if she slipped the censor off her finger, say "Yes" to the "do you love Clark?" question?
She could've answered either way and if the censor wasnt on her, it wouldnt have moved regardless. Why choose the answer to the question that's going to A) validate the psycho's reason for putting you in the chair in the first place, and B) make things REALLY awkward with Clark?

mellyM
10-17-2008, 08:00 AM
you know what I thought of this morning, with Lois' little comment to Clark in the elevator about how she "slipped the censor off her finger." She was completely full of it. Why, if she slipped the censor off her finger, say "Yes" to the "do you love Clark?" question?
She could've answered either way and if the censor wasnt on her, it wouldnt have moved regardless. Why choose the answer to the question that's going to A) validate the psycho's reason for putting you in the chair in the first place, and B) make things REALLY awkward with Clark?

I thought it was pretty clear she was lying

The Incredible Hulk
10-17-2008, 08:03 AM
I thought it was pretty clear she was lying

oh yeah of course, i guess I sort of phrased my post badly. I meant to say more or less that it was a REALLY poor lie :)

RakuMon
10-17-2008, 08:08 AM
Anyone notice Clark's little squirm after Lois answered, "Yes."...like he was totally expecting to be shocked. Then the quick WTF look he gave when he wasn't...

I thought that was funny.

YES! I was worried I'd be the only one to catch that. Great job, TW!

For the fourth time this season, I went in with mild-to-low expectations and came out blown away. (The only time I had high expectations was for "Toxic," and that didn't meet them unfortunately). When I saw last week's preview, I thought this was going to be the first real filler of the season. So glad I was wrong. The best thing so far about PS3's stewardship of the show is that they're letting so-called "filler" episodes be just as well made as their event ones. One of the problems with GoughLar was that they readily admitted that they had to drop the ball on some eps just because "that's the nature of episodic television." That's how we got eps like "Fierce" or "Exploding Baby." Because the quality control was lax. This season though, it's like the 'runners are saying, "filler" episodes need as much adherence to continuity and top notch acting as the "important" ones, so Bravo!

So, the good:

--Lois' party dress. Yowza.
--Clark's football jersey (Have we ever seen Lana rocking the football jersey and nothing else? Seems like the Lane cousins are the only ones, huh?)
--Clark and Lois really are the saving grace of this season. Every time I see them together, doing their thing, I have a grin like Kal-El 8. At the same time, it's so frustrating because Tom & Erica really are the best Clark & Lois I've ever seen. No disrespect to Reeve/Kidder or Cain/Hatcher, but Welling/Durance have them both beat because they combine the best parts of each of the previous Clark/Lois pairings. But it's frustrating because we'll likely never see them fulfill their justified place on the big screen.
--Clark being proactive AGAIN! I loved that he constantly wanted to investigate on his own, but Lois wouldn't have it. So classic! And when he finally got the chance to superspeed away? Brilliant. Also, loved the way he took out his captor. The headbutt and the "I'm gonna kick your ass" look was made of awesome. Even the way he said "let her go" screamed bloody Superman (give this guy the franchise already!). I addressed his use of his powers in another thread, but I'll reiterate it here. His heat vision is invisible to the naked eye. It's only visualized for viewers watching the show. It can be confusing because in recent seasons, they've made his heat vision more red, but when he first got it in Season 2, it was just heat emitting from his eyes and not traditional laser beams. So, Lois didn't actually see Clark use his HV to take out the pipe. But the fact that he even thought to take out the pipe in the first place shows that Clark FINALLY understands how to be mask his Supermanliness.
--Loved the "safest way to travel" line. Great homage, but even better? Tom delivered it perfectly. Also loved how Clark got a bit deflated when he bought Lois' lie about slipping off the sensor. He played that on two levels. On the one hand, you could tell he was going to enjoy teasing Lois about her admission, so he was disappointed about that. Secondly, he's starting to realize his own feelings for Lois. Which again, is AWESOME.

The Bad:
Chloe/Jimmy and Ollie/Tess.
Obviously, the tastiest bits of this episode was all the Lois/Clark goodness. I think the strength of that pairing, though, is hurting the other two "relationships" because it exposes how weak they are.

I'll say it again, Chloe and Jimmy are just bori...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... Oh sorry, what was I saying?

Seriously, the whole "my parents are deadbeats" scene was five minutes wasted. I know Allison is second-billing this year, but she and Jimmy should never be the A-plot because there's nothing interesting there. Every scene with just the two of them, I'm looking at my watch and waiting for Clark or Lois to come back.

Tess and Ollie is different. Individually, they're both very interesting (my man love for Justin is well known). But together, something's missing. I know that's kind of the point, the mystery about their relationship prior to this season, but I'm not intrigued by that. Also, didn't Ollie say at the end of "Odyssey" that the "new head of Luthorcorp is more deceitful than Lex ever was?" He was talking about Tess, I thought? If so, why's he bedding her (unless, he's doing this strictly on JLA business--which I can live with).

That said, I'll give Tess and Ollie a few more eps to win me over. But I've had it with Chloe and Jimmy. Even though their engagement is a major plot line this year (culminating in "Bride" I guess), I'd rather watch the Clark and Lois show.

All in all, another fantastic episode. I agree with Pat, Smallville is fun again!

Superfreak
10-17-2008, 08:09 AM
oh yeah of course, i guess I sort of phrased my post badly. I meant to say more or less that it was a REALLY poor lie :)

indeed, but what I liked was that it was enough to make Clark think twice and get confused (that, I really liked). I like how they were both lying to each other to hide the truth, but that Lois' lie convinced Clark that his lie was unneeded... the confusion on Clark's face right at the end of the interchange was good (did she? did she not?)

Brainiac 8
10-17-2008, 09:06 AM
Ok, here is the deal. After reading the CW write up, I wasn't as looking forward to this episode as I had been the previous four. I mean c'mon, a Kryptonite powered lie detector...boy am I glad they got that part wrong. The way the episode played out was far better.

It was fan-freakin-tastic! This is by far my favorite episode of the season so far, and I have loved the previous episodes. I think after these five episodes, it shows the real weakest link Smallville had was Al/Miles, they had to have been holding the show back something fierce.

To those who say Welling and Durance don't have chemistry, watch this episode, and shut your friggin mouth. They absolutely sizzled on screen everytime they appeared together. It was like watching an episode of Lois & Clark, only without the huge amounts of cheese that show had. (Even though I loved that cheese) When Tom got electrocuted, watching Lois' concern when she pleaded for the villian to stop hurting him was heartbreaking...these kids need to hook up before this show ends.

The plot was even interesting, the villian had a twisted sense of honor behind him, in that he would release the prisoners if they passed his "test". The villian had a sympathetic motive, and to top it off he didn't die in some arbitrary way like most of the villians have in this show. The Kryptonite bracelet didn't bother me at all. Kryptonite jewelrey is an established fixture on the show, and it made much more sense that he wore something like this considering he was a Jeweler.

Welling, where do I even begin. I know, let me quote my wife last night: "Will they just go ahead and put the tights and cape on him already!"

My sentaments exactly honey. :up:

He was proactive, he found a way to cover up his escape from Lois, and the way he appeared in front of the villian, you just knew someone was about to get a beating. Is it just me, or does Tom's arm look extra ripped this season? I also enjoyed the Lois/Clark banter, the joke about getting dressed in the kitchen...for an hour was hilarious, as was the whole jewelry store scene. I did enjoy that before anything, Clark tried to reason with the villian by appealing to his vulnerable side. He was all 100% Superman in this episode, and it didn't require any expensive special effects to make it happen. See what happens when you pay attention to character BEFORE plot. :up: :D

Oh, and on a side note, yes, his heat vision has been established as invisible to the naked eye. They have made it more noticeable for our benefit. That is all.

On to the more negetive or neutral aspects of the show.

The jury is still out on Oliver and Tess for me, but my god if that dueling scene wasn't awesome. Tess is hiding a far darker secret than Oliver even realizes..my guess.. she was one of Lex's supersoldier experiments.

Jimmy and Chloe....what can I say? They don't bother me like some people, but they were the least interesting part of the episode. Fortunately, they didn't take up much of the screen time. Clark's toast and saving of Lois during the shower was fantastic. The scene with Jimmy/Chloe that I did like was the when they had to answer the questions, since they showed alot of chemistry in that scene. It seemed real. The confession of Jimmy though, fell much more flat than I think the director was hoping. I never wondered nor cared about his parents...they appearantly thought I did. This wasn't enough to ruin the episode at all though.

Also I just want to mention the focus on remembering continuity this season. It makes me very happy. I thought they did mostly ok before, but it's much more appearant that they are trying to tie in past continuity much more this season, and I love it.

At the end, Lois lied about slipping the moniter off her finger, and I'm not so sure Clark bought it actually. We'll see though. That look at the end was the lightbulb, he finally realizes his feelings for her. That look he gave was fantastic and made the Superman fanboy in me squeal. Oh, and the homage...yea it made me smile, and isn't it funny how much more natural it sounds coming out of Tom...interesting no?

All in all, after my longwinded comment about the episode...it was a 5/5 without a doubt.
So far my season looks like this:

Committed
Instinct
Plastique
Odyssey
Toxic

Awsome season so far. :up: :D

regularguy85
10-17-2008, 09:10 AM
hey, i was watching the episode, and I noticed that in one of the scenes involving Oliver and Tess, he called her Mercy. I could be wrong, but isn't that like a nod to Lex's assistant in the comics and S:TAS? Now if someone had already discussed this before me, my bad. I did'nt feel like sifting through all the pages and heck, I tried. :)

smsvmos
10-17-2008, 09:54 AM
hey, i was watching the episode, and I noticed that in one of the scenes involving Oliver and Tess, he called her Mercy. I could be wrong, but isn't that like a nod to Lex's assistant in the comics and S:TAS? Now if someone had already discussed this before me, my bad. I did'nt feel like sifting through all the pages and heck, I tried. :)

Yea in the last episode he also called her Mercy

Migu-EL
10-17-2008, 10:01 AM
Great episode. I loved the interaction between Clark and Lois, fun stuff. Lois was smokin hot in this episode as usual. She looked good in Clark's football jersey. And I keep getting a visual of her taking an hour to get undressed in the kitchen. LOL:cwink:

I also laughed when Lois answered the question, If she loved Clark, and when she said yes Clark flinched like he was waiting to get shocked.:wow: That was a nice touch. I'm not buying Lois' excuse that she slipped off the sensor from her finger either. If that was the case she could have saved herself alot of embarrasment by saying no to the question then.

There weren't too many low points in this episode. The Jimmy/Chloe stuff was kept to a minimum. And I have to wait and see where the producers are going with the Ollie/Tess relationship. It could end up being a good addition. Only time will tell.

Overall this episode was very enjoyable. I felt that it flowed nicely and added alot of depth to certain character relationships. Can't wait to see next weeks episode.:bh:

Brainiac 8
10-17-2008, 10:05 AM
Hulk is in next weeks episode! :eek:

I hope it's Eric Bana. :up:

Tron5000
10-17-2008, 10:21 AM
I think Clark totally didn't buy Lois's lie, but he didn't want to embarrass her or make an awkward situation even more so. And I absolutely loved how Lois broke down right before she admitted she loved him. She sooooooooooo didn't slip the sensor off her finger.

One thing that got me: Metropolis is a pretty big place, right? So how did Lois and Clark get captured so soon after announcing their "engagement"? Weren't there other couples in the city for the Jeweler to go after?

LadyVader
10-17-2008, 10:24 AM
The one thing I hated in this episode was the motherfrakkin kritponite watch. Oh my god... talk about plot convenience. The dude just happened to have a watch with kriptonite in it and he just happened to NOT wear it when Clark and Lois first came in the store. Oh. My God.

Tron5000
10-17-2008, 10:29 AM
Ah, nevermind. The Jeweler dude was in the store when they were ring shopping? I was wondering how everyone knew he was a jeweler. I had company at my house and I think that was the 5-minute span when their toddler was chasing my cat around and totally freaking him out. Evil little children.

smsvmos
10-17-2008, 10:31 AM
I really like the fight between Oliver and Mercy. It would be cool if she was an Amazonian warrior

Valerie_f4
10-17-2008, 10:33 AM
I didn't like the eppy at all. I want to see Doomday.
Um, But I truly wanted to see more action, less drama. And isn't oliver supposed to be with dinah?

Brainiac 8
10-17-2008, 10:34 AM
Kryptonite is the Deux Ex Machina of the Superman universe. It's super rare, but all of his villians seem to get ahold of it.

It just makes sense that this would transfer to the Smallville universe.

At least it wasn't some Kryptonite infused lie detector like the write up made us believe. The show has set a precedense that Kryptonite is used in Jewelry making ala Whisper and Red, and at least him being a Jewler made more sense that a bracelet he is wearing could have Kryptonite as it's stone. They needed an excuse to make sure Clark was weakened for a bit, so it wasn't a super easy bust and grab for Clark.

Plus it resulted in some great stuff, like Clark headbutting the guy and very smartly using the drainage grate to get rid of the bracelet.

Stuff like this is just something you have to accept when it comes to Superman related media. :)

ZIPBAGS
10-17-2008, 10:36 AM
The Ollie/Mercy plot is this seasons Clark/Lex show long battle. For years Clark tried to keep Lex good. Now, Ollie is trying to "save" Mercy from the dark side.

Also, someone needs to gif the scene when Clark squirms after Lois says she loves him. :)

LadyVader
10-17-2008, 10:50 AM
Kryptonite is the Deux Ex Machina of the Superman universe. It's super rare, but all of his villians seem to get ahold of it.

It just makes sense that this would transfer to the Smallville universe.

At least it wasn't some Kryptonite infused lie detector like the write up made us believe. The show has set a precedense that Kryptonite is used in Jewelry making ala Whisper and Red, and at least him being a Jewler made more sense that a bracelet he is wearing could have Kryptonite as it's stone. They needed an excuse to make sure Clark was weakened for a bit, so it wasn't a super easy bust and grab for Clark.

Plus it resulted in some great stuff, like Clark headbutting the guy and very smartly using the drainage grate to get rid of the bracelet.

Stuff like this is just something you have to accept when it comes to Superman related media. :)

I accept it when it's used creatively. This was just plain convenience. Why wasn't he wearing his watch in the shop then? A kryptonite based torture device does in fact make more sense.

Valerie_f4
10-17-2008, 10:53 AM
Are they talking about Mercy Graves?

Brainiac 8
10-17-2008, 10:59 AM
I accept it when it's used creatively. This was just plain convenience. Why wasn't he wearing his watch in the shop then? A kryptonite based torture device does in fact make more sense.


Really....I would have knocked the episode alot if they went the Kryptonite lie detector route.

But you are correct it is convenient and contrived...but 95% of the inclusion of Kryptonite in all Supes media I find contrived. What they did in this episode didn't bother me though.

To each his own.

b24
10-17-2008, 12:09 PM
i see they are making oliver kind of regressing back this unlike season 6

and talk about having a bad day 1st he find out his ex is getting married to some geeky guy

then getting played by tess

Superfreak
10-17-2008, 12:11 PM
i see they are making oliver kind of regressing back this unlike season 6

and talk about having a bad day 1st he find out his ex is getting married to some geeky guy

then getting played by tess

he also got to bang Tess, I think that would even it out a little

Dr. Chaos
10-17-2008, 12:15 PM
You know, I've never been really a fan of Smallville (or Superman for that matter), I watched the last two seasons off and on and was almost always left disappointed but this show has really picked itself off the ground this season.

I have to give credit where credit is due, the show has really gotten it's act together.

Each episode has felt worthwhile and in some way fun, thats more than I can say for a good bit of episodes I've seen before Season Eight.

Good episode.

Mercy..Mercy..

Superfreak
10-17-2008, 12:33 PM
Are they talking about Mercy Graves?

it's sv's Mercy (I'm assuming you don't get it.) She's a cross between Miss Tessmacher and Mercy Graves: Tess Mercer etc.

SpideyVille
10-17-2008, 12:36 PM
I think Clark totally didn't buy Lois's lie, but he didn't want to embarrass her or make an awkward situation even more so. And I absolutely loved how Lois broke down right before she admitted she loved him. She sooooooooooo didn't slip the sensor off her finger.
I don't know, he looked kinda disappointed after she said she lied. After she left the elevator, it looked like he was a little sad as though he was happy with the idea of Lois being in love with him.

One thing that got me: Metropolis is a pretty big place, right? So how did Lois and Clark get captured so soon after announcing their "engagement"? Weren't there other couples in the city for the Jeweler to go after?I think they did a search on all the couples who were abducted and found out that there were some common places that they all went to. I think Lois and Clark stopped by a catering shop and some other place along with the jewelry store.


The one thing I hated in this episode was the motherfrakkin kritponite watch. Oh my god... talk about plot convenience. The dude just happened to have a watch with kriptonite in it and he just happened to NOT wear it when Clark and Lois first came in the store. Oh. My God.That's a good point, I never really considered that. But something that really got to me was how Clark was weakened by a small piece of kryptonite that was more than 5 feet away from him at times, and he couldn't use his powers, but when the guy came near him, he had the strength to rip it off and headbutt the guy.

And isn't oliver supposed to be with dinah?
Nope, they've threw some some hints at it at the end of Siren, but in Odyssey it was pretty clear that they were just partners and not a couple. Besides, if they were together, you'd think she'd be around more often.

The Incredible Hulk
10-17-2008, 12:54 PM
I accept it when it's used creatively. This was just plain convenience. Why wasn't he wearing his watch in the shop then? A kryptonite based torture device does in fact make more sense.

maybe it was his special "abduction and torture watch" :D

Brainiac 8
10-17-2008, 01:13 PM
LadyVader....then did you prefer the Krypto Gatoraide...or how about the Krypto plastic surgery....or how about the Krypto tatoos.

I much prefer what they did here. :p

Dr. Chaos
10-17-2008, 01:21 PM
I'm abit surprised to see Tess/Oliver grouped in with the Chloe/Jimmy snoozefest. I'm finding it kind of fun, actually.

I'm actually wanting to see more of whats going on there, to see if he can wear her down to the point where there might be a more of a heart behind that "hardcore business" exterior.

If she's anything like Lex, underneath all those thorns and power is probably a pretty wounded psyche.

It would be nice to eventually see Tess get the happy ending down the line that we know for certain we'll never get to see Lex have.

Brainiac 8
10-17-2008, 01:26 PM
I doth agree, I am digging hardcore Tess' character, and I am interested in her past and what brought her to where she is now.

Plus her banter with Oliver was great, as was the sparring.

I wish he didn't see it necessary to take his shirt off every episode though. :(

SpideyVille
10-17-2008, 01:27 PM
Wow IGN actually ranked this episode pretty low, giving it a 4.8 out of 10.

http://tv.ign.com/articles/921/921001p1.html

KBX
10-17-2008, 01:28 PM
Well, not really looking forward to this one. Rest of the episodes seem more interesting to my liking, so hopefully this one comes up with a nice surprise...

The Lois and Clark anvils will be flying in this one, I bet.

Well let me tell you I was pleasantly surprised, I really enjoyed this episode!

It was enjoyable/fun to watch. As I said, anvils will be dropping at they did. I finally actually believe that Chloe might actually love Jimmy more than she does Clark. Unless is was Brainiac who can control a lie detector. Lois is a funny drunk.

Oh and whoever says Clark and Lois have no chemistry together, well to put it nicely as I can, need to shut the **** up!

Somehow I think Ollie has the crystal. I mean, Clark does get it back, and he has been spending some time with Tess. I dunno, call it a hunch....