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Rezzo
08-15-2008, 02:32 PM
At the Entertainment Weekly Visionaries panel at Comic Con, writer/director Kevin Smith was raving hard about the Watchmen footage which had premiered at the Con. After that I had a feeling that Zack Snyder, who was also on the panel, was going to show the film to Smith. And I was right. Kevin Smith has seen Watchmen. And while he couldn’t give the film a full review due to a NDA, he did have a couple things to say about the film:

I saw Watchmen. It’s ****ing astounding. The Non-Disclosure Agreement I signed prevents me from saying much, but I can spout the following with complete joygasmic enthusiasm: Snyder and Co. have pulled it off. Remember that feeling of watching Sin City on the big screen and being blown away by what a faithful translation of the source material it was, in terms of both content and visuals? Triple that, and you’ll come close to watching Watchmen. Even Alan Moore might be surprised at how close the movie is to the book. March can’t come soon enough.

Source: MySpace (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog&friendID=63831867)

Hadn't seen this posted yet.

Nivek
08-15-2008, 02:59 PM
Hmm, Interesting

AVEITWITHJAMON
08-15-2008, 03:10 PM
Very interesting, gives me a little more confidence leading upto the release.

Hellrider
08-15-2008, 03:19 PM
3 times pretty adaptation than Sin City... WOW. And I'm guessing he saw the 3 hour version, I hope Smith can back Snyder up in that debate with WB. This certainly sounds very promising, especially coming from someone who knows Watchmen and the comic book medium very well.

Gotham
08-15-2008, 04:38 PM
This is wonderful to hear. :up: Glad he liked it so much.

Motown Marvel
08-15-2008, 04:50 PM
cool.

darkseid26
08-15-2008, 04:57 PM
lucky Smith, i wanna watch it :csad::woot:

Lobster Charlie
08-15-2008, 05:09 PM
Nice to hear it got a good review, but I personally don't give Kevin Smith a whole lot of cred. He favored Daredevil over the first Spider-Man film, and I personally didn't like the Sin City film all that much--while I loved the graphic novels.

Still, this is a bit of a good sign.

Watson
08-15-2008, 05:29 PM
Nice to hear it got a good review, but I personally don't give Kevin Smith a whole lot of cred. He favored Daredevil over the first Spider-Man film, and I personally didn't like the Sin City film all that much--while I loved the graphic novels.

Still, this is a bit of a good sign.

LMAO, I wonder why? :oldrazz:

He is a bit of a fan boy, but I would take Smith's word over someone like Harry Knowles. Nice to know, regardless.

Yurka
08-15-2008, 06:54 PM
Good news :up:

Star
08-15-2008, 07:15 PM
YAY! And pfft, like Moore will even seen it. He's too sour and stubborn

.Rorschach.
08-15-2008, 07:23 PM
Good news!

tzarinna
08-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Damn it, I wants to see it now! :csad:

superherofan777
08-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Hadn't seen this posted yet.


sounds good

dr.strange
08-15-2008, 10:31 PM
yeah when kevin smith gives the thumbs up,you gotta take notice.wonder why he's never directed a comicbook film?

Dark Victory
08-15-2008, 10:38 PM
:woot:YES YES YES!!!!

Can't wait till March.

Commodore Schmidlapp
08-15-2008, 11:11 PM
I officially hate Kevin Smith now. I wanna see it dammit!!

AlteredEgo
08-15-2008, 11:20 PM
yeah when kevin smith gives the thumbs up,you gotta take notice.wonder why he's never directed a comicbook film?
22PUIWI3p70

RustyCage
08-15-2008, 11:48 PM
NICE! If ever Snyder needed a Shield of Justice to use against the guys upstairs trying to tell him what to do with his film, Kev's reaction would be it!

Dr. Manhatten
08-16-2008, 01:12 AM
I'm glad to hear it. He's a guy who understands how hard it'd be to adapt a comic to the screen and what would generally fly and what wouldn't. He was pretty dead on with the Dark Knight so as long as Snyder and such live up to the praise and keep improving the movie, then all will be cool

xero1186
08-16-2008, 03:56 AM
That's really good news. March seems so far away but I'll be living in Israel when it comes out l'd have to catch a flight to England to see it.

Agentsands77
08-16-2008, 10:43 AM
It's good news to hear that someone liked it, but I hardly see eye-to-eye with Smith on a lot of films. And the SIN CITY comparison doesn't exactly make me hopeful.

But we'll see. I'm expecting good things, regardless, and good word is good word.

luke1234
08-16-2008, 01:30 PM
Man how the hell does Kevin Smith always see these movies way before they come out?

RustyCage
08-16-2008, 07:44 PM
Man how the hell does Kevin Smith always see these movies way before they come out?

I figure he makes the right friends in his position. :woot: lol

Katsuro
08-16-2008, 10:35 PM
It's good news to hear that someone liked it, but I hardly see eye-to-eye with Smith on a lot of films. And the SIN CITY comparison doesn't exactly make me hopeful.

But we'll see. I'm expecting good things, regardless, and good word is good word.

What do you mean the Sin City comparison doesn't make you hopeful? Did you actualy read it, or did you just skim it and see the words Sin City? He didn't say the movie was anything like Sin City, except in the aspect of being exactly like the book.

The Sin City comparison makes me very hopeful, personally.

The Dude
08-16-2008, 10:40 PM
Kevin Smith is the man. This is a fact.

Pumped by this news. This is my most anticipated movie of 09. By miles.

mpw261
08-17-2008, 12:28 AM
He actually saw the entire movie?

RustyCage
08-17-2008, 04:51 AM
He actually saw the entire movie?

Well, he saw whatever form it was in at the time..

Agentsands77
08-17-2008, 12:47 PM
He didn't say the movie was anything like Sin City, except in the aspect of being exactly like the book.
Well, sure. But that's kind of my problem. Y'see, I don't parade SIN CITY as an example of a good adaptation. The comics are decent, but I thought that film was utter dreck. So when Smith says, "Remember that feeling of watching Sin City on the big screen and being blown away by what a faithful translation of the source material it was, in terms of both content and visuals?" That was never me.

Now, to Smith's credit, he does say it does an even better job of that than SIN CITY (which it better do, or I'll walk away might disappointed). But I'm glad Smith liked it, and I am hopeful that WATCHMEN will deliver.

luke1234
08-17-2008, 12:50 PM
Kevin Smith is the man. This is a fact.

Pumped by this news. This is my most anticipated movie of 09. By miles.

agreed

dlvillarreal
08-17-2008, 03:09 PM
Kevin Smith is one lucky son of *****...

CaptainGenerica
08-17-2008, 04:29 PM
Well, sure. But that's kind of my problem. Y'see, I don't parade SIN CITY as an example of a good adaptation. The comics are decent, but I thought that film was utter dreck. So when Smith says, "Remember that feeling of watching Sin City on the big screen and being blown away by what a faithful translation of the source material it was, in terms of both content and visuals?" That was never me.

Now, to Smith's credit, he does say it does an even better job of that than SIN CITY (which it better do, or I'll walk away might disappointed). But I'm glad Smith liked it, and I am hopeful that WATCHMEN will deliver.

I'm kinda curious as to why you think Sin City wasn't a good adaptation. It's been awhile since I've read/watched it, but I remember being impressed by the faithfulness, if not blown away by the movie itself (or the comics for that matter).

Star
08-17-2008, 05:11 PM
I'm curious too... what exactly could have been done to make Sin City 'better'?

It's so similar to the comics, and it has the same 'feel'...

Lobster Charlie
08-17-2008, 06:09 PM
I don't think copying a comic book panel for panel into a film format is the most favorable way to adapt a graphic novel. Mind you, I could very well have mis-read the Sin City books, and seen them a bit more "serious" than the over-the-top cartoonish violence offered by RR and Frank Miller. I was a big fan of the books, btw.

My problems with the Sin City film:

-Stories told out of order. What was the point of that? Some people I'd spoken to after seeing the film were utterly confused by it. They also tried to cram way too much into one film.

-The violence was way too cartoony. I expected something more gritty, a tiny bit more "serious," and less like an overt Robert Rodriguez film.

A few scenes that come to mind:

--Marv dragging that guy's face on the pavement while driving at about 100 miles an hour (I always imagined that scene was actually a car going much slower, making it that much more agonizing, and you know, still keeping the guy alive long enough to actually offer some information)

--Marv being tossed around like a rag-doll by Goldie's convertible. It looked so preposterous, the audience I saw it with was in hysterics. Nuh-uh. That scene should've played far more brutal, IMO. Making it funny takes the weight out of it, IMO.

-Cheap CGI look. I said it then, and I'll say it again: the way they shot this thing won't stand the test of time. The entire film felt more like a (cheapish, at times) music video than an actual "film." What's wrong with just shooting the thing on real sets, utilizing a few nods to Miller's technique used in the comics?

And don't get me started on the makeup. Mickey Rourke is ugly enough to pull off Marv without having to wear a bad wig and that silly jaw.

-Casting and performances. Rosario Dawson, Jaime King, Bruce Willis, Brittany Murphy, Elijah Wood, and Michael Madsen, I'm looking at you. Bruce Willis didn't belong anywhere near this film, and didn't capture what I believe to be the real Hartigan in the least. The role had Clint Eastwood written all over it, and while I know they'd never get him for such a part, they could've hit a little closer to the mark.

Michael Madsen had the worst acting and dialogue in the film. Jaime King looks a little too burnt out to pull off "high class hooker." Everyone else I listed are way too young. Kevin is more of the "creepy substitute teacher from Bible school," a guy in his late 30's/early 40's with receding hairline, not a punk kid. Brittany Murphy was an inspired choice, but she hammed it up way too much. Hearing her bleat out "you DAMN fool" was just stomach-churning. And don't get me started on the cheap scenes with the hookers in Old Town. Most of them weren't nearly as hot as presented in the comics, and seemed like they just hired mostly their friends to wear skimpy clothing and try to look "tough." The scene of them firing down into the alley felt tacked-on, lazy, and not the least bit as awesome as the comics.

To their credit, Clive Owen, Mickey Rourke, Carla Gugino, and Nick Stahl did a great job. Devon Aoki was decent, and Jessica Alba was alright, but didn't come close to capturing the Nancy from the comic books. What was with her lame dancing that lasted about 10-15 seconds? Did they happen to miss the 2 page spreads we'd sometimes get multiple times in a single volume? None of the dynamics caught on the comic page were truly brought to the big screen in regards to this character.

*nitpick side note on her scenes: Marv explicitly states that he loves Katie's because it was an old country bar. Nancy wears country gear, as does Shellie. So why the crap techno-ish music? Where was "Drivin' Wheel" by Emmylou Harris? nit pick, I know, but I was actually looking forward to that part.

I can (obviously) go on about this, but the main problem I had with Sin City was that it wasn't quite the adaptation I was looking for. I was hoping for something more gritty, not so "literal," and for the directors/writers to bring something *more* to the Sin City world, rather than just trying to get actors to replicate comic book performances. That allows for bad dialogue (comic-talk works in the books, not so much in real life), silly action, and simplistic storylines.

If I want a comic book, I'll read a comic book. When I sit in a theatre, I want to see a film. A few nods here and there are great, but just copying the panels doesn't excite me. Sin City could've been a whole lot more, IMO.

Agentsands77
08-17-2008, 07:49 PM
I don't think copying a comic book panel for panel into a film format is the most favorable way to adapt a graphic novel. Mind you, I could very well have mis-read the Sin City books, and seen them a bit more "serious" than the over-the-top cartoonish violence offered by RR and Frank Miller. I was a big fan of the books, btw.

My problems with the Sin City film:

-Stories told out of order. What was the point of that? Some people I'd spoken to after seeing the film were utterly confused by it. They also tried to cram way too much into one film.

-The violence was way too cartoony. I expected something more gritty, a tiny bit more "serious," and less like an overt Robert Rodriguez film.

A few scenes that come to mind:

--Marv dragging that guy's face on the pavement while driving at about 100 miles an hour (I always imagined that scene was actually a car going much slower, making it that much more agonizing, and you know, still keeping the guy alive long enough to actually offer some information)

--Marv being tossed around like a rag-doll by Goldie's convertible. It looked so preposterous, the audience I saw it with was in hysterics. Nuh-uh. That scene should've played far more brutal, IMO. Making it funny takes the weight out of it, IMO.

-Cheap CGI look. I said it then, and I'll say it again: the way they shot this thing won't stand the test of time. The entire film felt more like a (cheapish, at times) music video than an actual "film." What's wrong with just shooting the thing on real sets, utilizing a few nods to Miller's technique used in the comics?

And don't get me started on the makeup. Mickey Rourke is ugly enough to pull off Marv without having to wear a bad wig and that silly jaw.

-Casting and performances. Rosario Dawson, Jaime King, Bruce Willis, Brittany Murphy, Elijah Wood, and Michael Madsen, I'm looking at you. Bruce Willis didn't belong anywhere near this film, and didn't capture what I believe to be the real Hartigan in the least. The role had Clint Eastwood written all over it, and while I know they'd never get him for such a part, they could've hit a little closer to the mark.

Michael Madsen had the worst acting and dialogue in the film. Jaime King looks a little too burnt out to pull off "high class hooker." Everyone else I listed are way too young. Kevin is more of the "creepy substitute teacher from Bible school," a guy in his late 30's/early 40's with receding hairline, not a punk kid. Brittany Murphy was an inspired choice, but she hammed it up way too much. Hearing her bleat out "you DAMN fool" was just stomach-churning. And don't get me started on the cheap scenes with the hookers in Old Town. Most of them weren't nearly as hot as presented in the comics, and seemed like they just hired mostly their friends to wear skimpy clothing and try to look "tough." The scene of them firing down into the alley felt tacked-on, lazy, and not the least bit as awesome as the comics.

To their credit, Clive Owen, Mickey Rourke, Carla Gugino, and Nick Stahl did a great job. Devon Aoki was decent, and Jessica Alba was alright, but didn't come close to capturing the Nancy from the comic books. What was with her lame dancing that lasted about 10-15 seconds? Did they happen to miss the 2 page spreads we'd sometimes get multiple times in a single volume? None of the dynamics caught on the comic page were truly brought to the big screen in regards to this character.

*nitpick side note on her scenes: Marv explicitly states that he loves Katie's because it was an old country bar. Nancy wears country gear, as does Shellie. So why the crap techno-ish music? Where was "Drivin' Wheel" by Emmylou Harris? nit pick, I know, but I was actually looking forward to that part.

I can (obviously) go on about this, but the main problem I had with Sin City was that it wasn't quite the adaptation I was looking for. I was hoping for something more gritty, not so "literal," and for the directors/writers to bring something *more* to the Sin City world, rather than just trying to get actors to replicate comic book performances. That allows for bad dialogue (comic-talk works in the books, not so much in real life), silly action, and simplistic storylines.

If I want a comic book, I'll read a comic book. When I sit in a theatre, I want to see a film. A few nods here and there are great, but just copying the panels doesn't excite me. Sin City could've been a whole lot more, IMO.
Mostly agreed. Another real problem I had with the SIN CITY film is how rushed the stories were. They were never really given any time to breathe.

laudanum09
08-17-2008, 10:16 PM
I'm stoked that he liked it, but then again I don't necessarily respect this guy's taste 100percent of the time...especially lately...but good news nonthe less, one finger crossed, the other well...making some sort of sign analogous to skepticism...

Nivek
08-18-2008, 09:58 AM
What I always love about comic fans dissing Sin City as a adoption... Frank Miller himself was all over it. The guy wrote and did all the art for the comics, but his live action vision where the dude was on set every day was for whatever reason "wrong". Love fans.

Lobster Charlie
08-18-2008, 10:33 AM
George Lucas also directed the Star Wars prequels, and we saw how those turned out.

Frank Miller's comic book work in the past 10 years hasn't been all that great, either.

Comics and film are totally different mediums. And while I'd never call the Sin City film "wrong," I simply didn't like the way it was handled. *shrugs*

luke1234
08-18-2008, 10:35 AM
Im not sure if i trust kevin smith,

he did praise Star Wars Episode 3, and we all know how that turned out

EternalMaster
08-18-2008, 01:58 PM
I don't think copying a comic book panel for panel into a film format is the most favorable way to adapt a graphic novel. Mind you, I could very well have mis-read the Sin City books, and seen them a bit more "serious" than the over-the-top cartoonish violence offered by RR and Frank Miller. I was a big fan of the books, btw.

My problems with the Sin City film:

-Stories told out of order. What was the point of that? Some people I'd spoken to after seeing the film were utterly confused by it. They also tried to cram way too much into one film.

-The violence was way too cartoony. I expected something more gritty, a tiny bit more "serious," and less like an overt Robert Rodriguez film.

A few scenes that come to mind:

--Marv dragging that guy's face on the pavement while driving at about 100 miles an hour (I always imagined that scene was actually a car going much slower, making it that much more agonizing, and you know, still keeping the guy alive long enough to actually offer some information)

--Marv being tossed around like a rag-doll by Goldie's convertible. It looked so preposterous, the audience I saw it with was in hysterics. Nuh-uh. That scene should've played far more brutal, IMO. Making it funny takes the weight out of it, IMO.

-Cheap CGI look. I said it then, and I'll say it again: the way they shot this thing won't stand the test of time. The entire film felt more like a (cheapish, at times) music video than an actual "film." What's wrong with just shooting the thing on real sets, utilizing a few nods to Miller's technique used in the comics?

And don't get me started on the makeup. Mickey Rourke is ugly enough to pull off Marv without having to wear a bad wig and that silly jaw.

-Casting and performances. Rosario Dawson, Jaime King, Bruce Willis, Brittany Murphy, Elijah Wood, and Michael Madsen, I'm looking at you. Bruce Willis didn't belong anywhere near this film, and didn't capture what I believe to be the real Hartigan in the least. The role had Clint Eastwood written all over it, and while I know they'd never get him for such a part, they could've hit a little closer to the mark.

Michael Madsen had the worst acting and dialogue in the film. Jaime King looks a little too burnt out to pull off "high class hooker." Everyone else I listed are way too young. Kevin is more of the "creepy substitute teacher from Bible school," a guy in his late 30's/early 40's with receding hairline, not a punk kid. Brittany Murphy was an inspired choice, but she hammed it up way too much. Hearing her bleat out "you DAMN fool" was just stomach-churning. And don't get me started on the cheap scenes with the hookers in Old Town. Most of them weren't nearly as hot as presented in the comics, and seemed like they just hired mostly their friends to wear skimpy clothing and try to look "tough." The scene of them firing down into the alley felt tacked-on, lazy, and not the least bit as awesome as the comics.

To their credit, Clive Owen, Mickey Rourke, Carla Gugino, and Nick Stahl did a great job. Devon Aoki was decent, and Jessica Alba was alright, but didn't come close to capturing the Nancy from the comic books. What was with her lame dancing that lasted about 10-15 seconds? Did they happen to miss the 2 page spreads we'd sometimes get multiple times in a single volume? None of the dynamics caught on the comic page were truly brought to the big screen in regards to this character.

*nitpick side note on her scenes: Marv explicitly states that he loves Katie's because it was an old country bar. Nancy wears country gear, as does Shellie. So why the crap techno-ish music? Where was "Drivin' Wheel" by Emmylou Harris? nit pick, I know, but I was actually looking forward to that part.

I can (obviously) go on about this, but the main problem I had with Sin City was that it wasn't quite the adaptation I was looking for. I was hoping for something more gritty, not so "literal," and for the directors/writers to bring something *more* to the Sin City world, rather than just trying to get actors to replicate comic book performances. That allows for bad dialogue (comic-talk works in the books, not so much in real life), silly action, and simplistic storylines.

If I want a comic book, I'll read a comic book. When I sit in a theatre, I want to see a film. A few nods here and there are great, but just copying the panels doesn't excite me. Sin City could've been a whole lot more, IMO.

Wow, so in your mind, a faithful comic adaptation is impossible, right?

Because Sin City blows every other comic film out of the water when it comes to being comic-to-screen "faithful".

Now you may not like what you saw on screen, but that is exactly what comes from the comics. If you disagree, I think you might just be over romanticizing the comics. They aren't all that deep to begin with... typical over-the-top Miller "dark" stories as seen in his Batman and Daredevil runs. The look of the movie matches the look of the comics. Nothing cartoony about it.

And if you can nitpick Sin City to death, I'd imagine you have absolutely trashed every other comic movie ever made.

My advice: stay away from comic movies if you know they will never satisfy you.

Bubastis
08-18-2008, 06:32 PM
I adore most of Kevin Smith's films, Love watching him in interviews, Listen to his Podcast regularly, and can't wait for Zack and Miri make Porno or Red State, but his review could go either way. He really liked V for Vendetta, and said it was a good adaptation of the respective novel. Personally, I hated the movie and thought it was an awful adaptation of the book.
But according to his Facebook, Watchmen is one of his favorite books, so it looks like he takes it seriously. Fingers crossed.

Lobster Charlie
08-18-2008, 07:47 PM
Wow, so in your mind, a faithful comic adaptation is impossible, right?

Where and when did I say that? I loved Dark Knight, Begins, Spider-man 2. Iron Man and the new Hulk I found entertaining.

Because Sin City blows every other comic film out of the water when it comes to being comic-to-screen "faithful".

What's "faithful?" I simply stated I don't prefer someone copying comic book panels onto the big screen. And the liberties that RR took, I disagreed with. I found 300 a bit more entertaining, but again, not a big fan of the green screen/copying-comic-book-panels thing. But at least 300 is a better made film, IMO.

If "faithful" is just trying to replicate the exact look of a comic book, then I'm not the biggest fan of "faithful." It's cute for a moment, but I get bored after a while. I appreciate TDK because of what Nolan brought to these iconic characters, without sacrificing too much of their core iconic traits.

A truly "faithful" adaptation of Sin City would've been an animated film done in the exact comic book style. I'd love to see that. In fact, I'd prefer that over seeing what can sometimes resemble a bunch of comic-convention cosplayers running around spouting hammy comic book dialogue.

And if you can nitpick Sin City to death, I'd imagine you have absolutely trashed every other comic movie ever made.

You're imagining too much. You seem offended. It's just a difference in opinion.

My advice: stay away from comic movies if you know they will never satisfy you.

Thanks for the laugh!

DarkReflections
08-18-2008, 07:50 PM
i remember hearing his review of the trailer on smodcast. that episode was funny as hell.

Bubastis
08-18-2008, 08:01 PM
Which smodcast was that? Like what number?

DarkReflections
08-18-2008, 08:34 PM
its smodcast number 58 titled kodachrome. they go into talking about it right away. minus the sponsor.

CinnaLightning
08-19-2008, 12:04 AM
I hate to rain on everyone's parade, as I love Kevin Smith and hope the best for Watchmen, but...

“Revenge of the Sith” is, quite simply, ****ing awesome. This is the “Star Wars” prequel the haters have been *****ing for since “Menace” came out, and if they don’t cop to that when they finally see it, they’re lying. As dark as “Empire” was, this movie goes a thousand times darker

That was Kevin a few years ago

Nepenthes
08-19-2008, 12:15 AM
another reason to not like Kevin Smith

copywrite
08-19-2008, 12:18 AM
To his credit, Episode 3 was miles better than the previous two debacles.

CinnaLightning
08-19-2008, 12:46 AM
Yes it was, but Kevin, like all of us fanboys is all too quick to praise a new installment or adaptation of a beloved franchise

Steelsheen
08-19-2008, 01:20 AM
I hate to rain on everyone's parade, as I love Kevin Smith and hope the best for Watchmen, but...



That was Kevin a few years ago
and he was right.

i'm not one who buys into reviews of other people. i'm glad he's excited about it, but come opening day (if that will ever come) i'm gonna enter the theater not expecting anything despite the spoilers. its best that way.

OctaviusINC
08-19-2008, 02:29 AM
Damn, Smith seen the movie, like, 7 months before it's release? That's pretty insane. And the fact that he loved it to death in the stages of its post production makes me happy. Imagine what the finished film would be like.

Then again, I really don't like Kevin Smith. But it's still good news.

CinnaLightning
08-19-2008, 02:30 AM
Oh I'm glad he enjoyed it, obviously. But was Revenge of the Sith really "****ing amazing"? I'm just saying he has a tendency towards exaggeration and hyperbole.

Agentsands77
08-19-2008, 09:19 AM
To his credit, Episode 3 was miles better than the previous two debacles.
Not from where I'm standing. In fact, I think it's probably the worst of the prequels.

Keyser Soze
08-19-2008, 10:10 AM
22PUIWI3p70

Gotta say, I like this video better :cwink::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk

RickO'Connell
08-19-2008, 10:18 AM
If FOX stops this movie from being seen in theaters it can always be leaked via torrents for the fans to see

copywrite
08-19-2008, 03:13 PM
Not from where I'm standing. In fact, I think it's probably the worst of the prequels.
You're definitely the first person I've heard say that.

I thought they were all terrible, to be honest, but at least III was tolerable to me.

Slipeor
08-19-2008, 03:18 PM
If FOX stops this movie from being seen in theaters it can always be leaked via torrents for the fans to see

120 million reasons why that won't happen.

Rust
08-19-2008, 03:20 PM
You're definitely the first person I've heard say that.

I thought they were all terrible, to be honest, but at least III was tolerable to me.


Episode III coulda been the least worst of the prequels, but then...:

http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/media/2007/05/darth_vader_nooo.jpg

KenK
08-19-2008, 03:22 PM
You're definitely the first person I've heard say that.

I thought they were all terrible, to be honest, but at least III was tolerable to me.

Episode III was saved by the abundance of lightsaber dismemberment scenes, and the unintentional hilarity of Darth Vader's reaction to discovering that Padme was dead.

DieSmiling
08-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Not from where I'm standing. In fact, I think it's probably the worst of the prequels.

What? Care to explain that? If you hate them all, that's fine, plenty of people do, but how anyone could possibly argue that Episodes 1 and 2 are better than 3 is beyond me. Says a lot about your taste...

Cinemaman
08-20-2008, 12:11 PM
Although I didn't like Sin City so much, I am happy Smith loved the movie :up:

luke1234
08-20-2008, 12:13 PM
thatll be funny if fox didnt release the movie, and kevin smith was the only one to see it, everyone would kill him.

Raiden
08-20-2008, 05:57 PM
Not from where I'm standing. In fact, I think it's probably the worst of the prequels.

Between the kid Anakin shouting "Weee!!!" and Jar Jar Binks, Episode I was and is still the worst prequel. Darth Maul was awesome, but even he couldn't save the movie.

Lobster Charlie
08-20-2008, 11:01 PM
Episode I had the best lightsaber battle, though. And I believe it was shot on film, so it had that "look" that at least resembled the series, if only just a little bit. But yeah, Ep I was pretty painful.

UA-Archangel
08-20-2008, 11:03 PM
From the look of the trailers, I think this movie is going to be huge. At least on par with Ironman.

Commodore Schmidlapp
08-20-2008, 11:41 PM
From the look of the trailers, I think this movie is going to be huge. At least on par with Ironman.
I'd like that but do keep in mind it will be an R rated movie, so you lose some audience.

AlteredEgo
08-21-2008, 01:07 AM
Gotta say, I like this video better :cwink::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk
haha, yeah i love that one too. i posted the first one though, because he talks about he would have directed a superhero movie like the green hornet. "Hey, is that a crime happening over there?" *points off screen* :D

Octoberist
08-21-2008, 01:16 AM
Episode I had the best lightsaber battle, though. And I believe it was shot on film, so it had that "look" that at least resembled the series, if only just a little bit. But yeah, Ep I was pretty painful.

While Episode I has real sets, it's still pretty unwatchable til this very day.

ManofmyWord
08-21-2008, 01:23 AM
As bad as they are at times. I still watch the Prequels.
To me it's just part of SW Canon.

Now Clone Wars...
Hmmm.
**** that.

The Battousai
08-21-2008, 01:59 AM
Gotta say, I like this video better :cwink::

vgYhLIThTvk

Fixed*

SLVRSR4
08-21-2008, 02:52 AM
I hate to rain on everyone's parade, as I love Kevin Smith and hope the best for Watchmen, but...



That was Kevin a few years ago

3 was easily the best of the series. It had action and that's what Star Wars films are about. Yes, I've seen the originals countless times as a kid and they have poor stories, but decent action. He did say he thought Jar Jar was funny in an interview I remember seeing though.

Spider-ManHero12
08-21-2008, 07:11 PM
Awesome! :up:

GrieVen
08-23-2008, 03:23 AM
On the Kevin & Bean morning radio show on KROQ in Los Angeles yesterday, 8/22/08, Smith said:

"I saw the Watchmen a couple weeks ago...the movie is insanely wonderful...He/they did it. They filmed the unfilmable book... But that is great. It's phenomenal... It's so close to the book... It's all there. They did a great job... A lot of people thought they couldn't do this book justice... Thumbs up way early on the Watchmen. It's gonna be huge."

But then he goes on to call the new Star Trek "phenomenal" and "fantastic". He says the director did a phenomenal job and the cast is "top notch" and the guy who plays Kirk is an "instant star".

So i guess Smith really does geek out and overly praise everything, so it's hard to know how much weight to give his high praise on Watchmen. But it makes me happy to hear it, nontheless.


podcast of the interview (about three-quarters way in):

http://kroqfs.com/kbpodcasts/KBpodcast_82208.mp3

Commodore Schmidlapp
08-23-2008, 11:13 AM
Or maybe Star Trek is really good as well.

GrieVen
08-23-2008, 12:58 PM
Or maybe Star Trek is really good as well.


Maybe so. I'm just guarded due to his over-the-top raves for the Star Wars prequels, as mentioned above. It really puts an asterisk next to his reviews.

Commodore Schmidlapp
08-23-2008, 01:00 PM
Maybe so. I'm just guarded due to his over-the-top raves for the Star Wars prequels, as mentioned above. It really puts an asterisk next to his reviews.
I see what you mean, but he did rave about TDK before it came out.

Shifty
09-28-2008, 02:44 AM
Kevin Smith: The Dark Knight is Better Than Watchmen and Star Trek?

September 19, 2008
by Alex Billington

Just yesterday I sat down for an interview with Kevin Smith in Austin, Texas. We spent a while chatting about Zack and Miri Make a Porno, his latest brilliant comedy, but before it was over, I had to ask him about both Watchmen and Star Trek, two movies that he's already seen. I asked him which of the those, plus The Dark Knight, he thought was the best, but when he said that was too tough to answer, I asked if he had to choose one to watch, which would it be? "I would say The Dark Knight… Well, Dark Knight was kind of amazing," he began. Over both Watchmen and Star Trek? Don't worry, he did mention a few more things about the other two as well, calling all three of them amazing movies.

"Watchmen and Star Trek are amazing too, but Dark Knight, I think, it's just an imminently watchable film. I saw that movie 5 times in the theater and I was never bored once," Smith recalled. "I would probably give the edge to The Dark Knight, personally, just because I love that movie so much. And it was like seeing Batman done right and seeing the Joker done right." I don't think anyone can argue with that. The film's stint at the top of the IMDb rankings shows that it does have quite a few fans who still think it's one of the best movies ever made. I guess this all just comes down to our excitement for what's next - Watchmen and Star Trek. Kevin Smith continued on about both of those briefly as well.

"But man, those other two, Watchmen and Star Trek, come close. I mean, I'm not a huge Trekkie, so I'm not like, oh man, you must see this before you die. But for what it is, in terms of a reboot, he did a fantastic job with it. Because it sounded like, when they announced it, 'why do you want to go back and do little Kirk and little Spock?' But man he did it and it made it viable and it doesn't get rid of anything that it had before, it kind of makes way for the continuity, so it all fits in that world still. It doesn't negate the series, the series of movies, anything, it's all part and parcel with it."

"And Watchmen is just spellbinding for how — it is literally the graphic novel comes alive, there's not a misstep in it. It's like reading the book, but watching it instead. He did a great, great job."

These recaps seem on par with his past mention of both films: Watchmen and Star Trek. The reason why I'm so fascinated by everything Kevin Smith has to say about both of these is because I think they're easily my most anticipated movies of next year. And hearing him speak so highly about both of them definitely makes me excited. I'm not worried about The Dark Knight comparison, because it is such an amazing movie and it's really hard to top, but I'm still anxious to see Watchmen and Star Trek, especially when Kevin Smith says they pulled it off.

I'm perhaps a bit more interested in this Star Trek movie. The Dark Knight is one of those rare once a decade films. So I'm not expecting Watchmen to top it but if it does... :woot:

matrix_ghost
09-28-2008, 04:26 AM
Kevin Smith: The Dark Knight is Better Than Watchmen and Star Trek?

September 19, 2008
by Alex Billington

Just yesterday I sat down for an interview with Kevin Smith in Austin, Texas. We spent a while chatting about Zack and Miri Make a Porno, his latest brilliant comedy, but before it was over, I had to ask him about both Watchmen and Star Trek, two movies that he's already seen. I asked him which of the those, plus The Dark Knight, he thought was the best, but when he said that was too tough to answer, I asked if he had to choose one to watch, which would it be? "I would say The Dark Knight… Well, Dark Knight was kind of amazing," he began. Over both Watchmen and Star Trek? Don't worry, he did mention a few more things about the other two as well, calling all three of them amazing movies.

"Watchmen and Star Trek are amazing too, but Dark Knight, I think, it's just an imminently watchable film. I saw that movie 5 times in the theater and I was never bored once," Smith recalled. "I would probably give the edge to The Dark Knight, personally, just because I love that movie so much. And it was like seeing Batman done right and seeing the Joker done right." I don't think anyone can argue with that. The film's stint at the top of the IMDb rankings shows that it does have quite a few fans who still think it's one of the best movies ever made. I guess this all just comes down to our excitement for what's next - Watchmen and Star Trek. Kevin Smith continued on about both of those briefly as well.

"But man, those other two, Watchmen and Star Trek, come close. I mean, I'm not a huge Trekkie, so I'm not like, oh man, you must see this before you die. But for what it is, in terms of a reboot, he did a fantastic job with it. Because it sounded like, when they announced it, 'why do you want to go back and do little Kirk and little Spock?' But man he did it and it made it viable and it doesn't get rid of anything that it had before, it kind of makes way for the continuity, so it all fits in that world still. It doesn't negate the series, the series of movies, anything, it's all part and parcel with it."
"And Watchmen is just spellbinding for how — it is literally the graphic novel comes alive, there's not a misstep in it. It's like reading the book, but watching it instead. He did a great, great job."

These recaps seem on par with his past mention of both films: Watchmen and Star Trek. The reason why I'm so fascinated by everything Kevin Smith has to say about both of these is because I think they're easily my most anticipated movies of next year. And hearing him speak so highly about both of them definitely makes me excited. I'm not worried about The Dark Knight comparison, because it is such an amazing movie and it's really hard to top, but I'm still anxious to see Watchmen and Star Trek, especially when Kevin Smith says they pulled it off.


I just underlined the stuff that Kevin Smith said. I think that anyone who's a little biased to a certain comic book property , will prefer that movie over other great movies too. That's why i think that SMith is giving the edge to TDK .
Make no mistake he enjoyed all 3 movies but he's a batman fan , which is why he'll place TDK higher. If he weren't such a big Batman fan , i think he'd say that all 3 flicks are equally great :cwink:

gwynplaine
09-28-2008, 11:31 AM
"...seeing the Joker done right..."
I wonder what Smith thinks about B89 ?

luke1234
09-28-2008, 11:35 AM
"...seeing the Joker done right..."
I wonder what Smith thinks about B89 ?

he quit his job just to go watch the 89 film and loved it, he just thought the dark knight was on a whole other level

gwynplaine
09-28-2008, 11:40 AM
he quit his job just to go watch the 89 film and loved it, he just thought the dark knight was on a whole other level
Cool, thanks for the info:up:.

luke1234
09-28-2008, 11:42 AM
Cool, thanks for the info:up:.

yeahi read it in an article somewhere

he worked at dominos as a delivery guy and all his friends were going to see batman that night and got him a ticket. He had to stay at work all night but then he went on a delivery and never came back ahhaha. Said it was one of the best movie experiences of his life.

DarkReflections
09-28-2008, 12:11 PM
Yeah i remember hearing that on the Clerks X dvd. I thought that special was awesome.

Doctor Jones
09-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Have you guys seen Smith's video on his Superman film on youtube? It's hilarious! :woot:

Bubastis
09-28-2008, 08:30 PM
he quit his job just to go watch the 89 film and loved it, he just thought the dark knight was on a whole other level
Yeah but when asked about it he was like
"Did I like Batman? Yeah, I liked Batman, with all it's f**kin flaws and s**t, yeah. I liked it."

the dmg
09-30-2008, 08:49 AM
Have you guys seen Smith's video on his Superman film on youtube? It's hilarious! :woot:

Umm...link?

I'm too lazy to search on youtube.

DarkReflections
09-30-2008, 11:25 AM
Umm...link?

I'm too lazy to search on youtube.

here man: http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk

Ronny Shade
10-02-2008, 09:05 AM
I still think it looks wack.

Ronny Shade
10-02-2008, 09:06 AM
Also, Kevin Smith liked "Mage." Hardly a guy you want to listen to.

DarkReflections
10-10-2008, 11:36 PM
its not like he is trying to shove anything down our throats. if anything he does that to the non-nerds when reviewing a movie he likes. he knows he cant persuade us. on the clerks 2 dvd for the intro to the trainwrecks he brings up how he complains to scott mosier, his producer and friend, that he hates it when people online are making fun of him lol. lets face it non famous nerds and famous nerds nowadays are fundamentalists when it comes to films. we just fight about everything and nitpick at what we hate, and like about movies.