Downey's thoughts on Batman/DC

[Agent 194]

Has everyone read Downey's words about Batman and more over, DC? There's a man who doesn't seem worried about burning bridges.

You go Robert! If you're going to do it then you go all the way buddy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26255675/

[Agent 194]

Now before anyone chides my for lauding what or how he said it.... I'm just saying again,....if you're going to go for it - then go all the way and do it well.

He's in the entertainment field. That's entertainment!

[Poetic Chaos]

read about that earlier, awesome.

[Ironfan72]

I think he echos what alot of Marvel fans feel about DC, I give him credit for speaking his mind, it's cool to have a rivalry between DC & Marvel, it makes both better.

[Badfish40oz]

This made me laugh my ass off when I heard it! I love a few DC characters, but screw it . . Go RDJ! It always makes me smile when somebody goes against the overwhelming majority, especially so unapolegetically.

Thing is though . . What if he's saying the same thing to Marvel in a few years? He seems like the kind of guy to turn on you 100% if one thing doesn't go the way he wants it to . .

[블라스]

Don't agree with him.
Now that that's out of the way, I can say that he's still one of the coolest mofos on Earth and both IM and TDK (at least to me) were flippin' brilliant.

[Raiden]

I may not agree with RDJ on TDK, that doesn't change my opinion of him. RDJ is still the coolest guy on Earth. :word:

[PWN3R]

Completely disagree. Yet strangely love him more for saying that....?

[Agent 194]

Yes, somehow it does ingratiate him to you. A unique blend of insulting and charming.

[jokerface89]

Don't agree with him.
Now that that's out of the way, I can say that he's still one of the coolest mofos on Earth and both IM and TDK (at least to me) were flippin' brilliant.
I agree on that.

[Iron_Stark]

I don't agree with what he said, perhaps he was talking with his usual dry sense of humor and people are blowing it out of proportion.

is there a video?

[Agent 194]

Well, with several 24 hr news channels and websites that are reporting news round the clock,...they've got to fill it up with something. Like AOL's "Memba Them" where they show updated photos of celebrities we used to know under the guise of keeping us informed. When what they're really doing most of the time is mocking them with a snarky caption underneath. So who knows how take this.

[terry78]

Hey, at least he's not being all gracious like most people who don't really care for something and try to gloss over it. I'm assuming he's just being facetious here, but even if he ain't, so what? Why apologize for an opinion?

[FireFlys Enigma]

Marvel gave him a Bentley. I believe that was in Rolling Stones. If it wasn't Rolling Stone, I got the link from the IMDb hit list to a legit website. I do know it was a magazine type site and it had a great article. Hey, if Marvel gave me a Bentley than I would say that too. LOL!

And I agree with the majority of this thread...RDJ is one of the coolest actors out there.

[Beanjuice]

I love the man,but he just lost a bit of my respect

[smooth3006]

:woot: @ roberts comments. i agree, i wasn't a fan of the dark knight either.

[Cosmic]

It's all in good fun. RDJ never disappoints. TDK was legendary, though.

[Agent 194]

If nothing else he got us talking about a film that is easing it's way out quickly as the summer ends.

[TheVileOne]

I like Robert Downey Jr. even more for doing it.

He's carrying the Marvel brand name. At Comic Con, when I got his autograph, I was wearing a Spider-man shirt and he yelled, "That is a dead franchise!" It's all in good fun. He's simply being half-facetious and repping the character he's playing.

[Tony Stark]

Yeah I don't think he was totally serious when he said this, yet it does carry some truth with it.

I loved TDK, yet one of the things that bothered me about it, was how the movie was in love with itself.

To me I loved Two Face, but really it wasn't believable how Harvey Dent went over the edge like that.

[Superhero 101]

What i hated about the films was i could not understand a word that came out of Batman's mouth.

[Microchip]

What i hated about the films was i could not understand a word that came out of Batman's mouth.

Well, he does use big words.

But yeah, it was all just in good fun. RDJ is that kind of guy, it would seem.

[Agent 194]

Iron Man's technology felt more real and relevant than the convoluted cell phone/sonar technology or whatever it was Batman used. Even if it is more possible than a man in a flying suit.

[Microchip]

Lets call it a tie. Batman had his sonar, sure, but Iron Man had Jarvis, that crazy hologram thing he used to design the new suit of armor, and those robotic arms. It's just how the movies went about themselves that made it seem all very possible.

[Spider-Vader]

Yeah I don't think he was totally serious when he said this, yet it does carry some truth with it.

I loved TDK, yet one of the things that bothered me about it, was how the movie was in love with itself.

To me I loved Two Face, but really it wasn't believable how Harvey Dent went over the edge like that.

Yeah he seemed like a whiny little b**** too me.

I think Downey is joking.

[TheGreenMeanie]

Ehhh I am by no means a DC fan, but Batman is a great character and Nolan has made two amazing movies with that character. I don't agree with what he said at all in regards to Bats, but he is intitled to his opinion.

:brucebat:

[Casius--J]

whilst I dont agree with his comments they made me laugh so much. Its just how he ended the whole thing haha great stuff!!

[scarface078]

you know what
f*** you 2 downey
totaally disagree with you
he's is jealouse becouse the person where iron man is based on(batman)
is doing much better than iron did
sure he did it great with iro man
but my opinion about him has totally changed
still i'm gona watch iron man 2
hahaha
see ya'l!!!

[hatebox]

I credit RDJ because I've no idea whether he's joking or not, and that's quite a good personality to have. Nevertheless, TDK has crushed IM so the timing of the comments do come off as slightly suspicious. I hope he was simply performing a caricature of what people would expect him to feel like.

[Kent]

Seems to me... and maybe I'm way off here... but it seems to me like he's trying to make a point, not about the quality of the film, but about how people have said it's such a smart/intelligent/cerebral film... and he's basically saying "Come on, it's not that mindblowingly intelligent and complex!"

I dunno... just the feeling I got from the text combined with how RDJ usually goes about stuff. Hard to tell when you can't see him saying it.

[Punisher RULES]

Holy cow! The claws came out on Downey!

Although I don't agree with him at all, it's nice to see him speak his mind.

[terry78]

Nothing is funnier than conflicted fanboys. I worship RDJ for his IM work, yet he's poking fun at TDK...my brain cells, it cannot handle all this info, arrggghh!

[Hiruu]

Has everyone read Downey's words about Batman and more over, DC? There's a man who doesn't seem worried about burning bridges.

You go Robert! If you're going to do it then you go all the way buddy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26255675/

Robert Downey Jr. is my FU$KING Hero right now! EVERYTHING He said in that interview about DC/TDK, I absolutely felt...one difference was that I have a BS in ME and a MS in EE...but I'm just too much of an engineering, and I too "stupid" to get all that artsy drama stuff of TDK. I'm not going to hate on the movie in bat forums like Bat fans like to do in everybody elses forum, but TDK was a ABSOLUTE letdown for me...I walked away like WTF was THAT?!?!?

[bapi]

I don't know if he is joking or what but I'm SO happy that TDK is not so easy and stupid popcorn movie like Iron Man (or TIH). But yeah, Dark Knight is not the best movie ever or what but is trillion-times better then IM.

[Dark Knight90!]

I'm sure Nolan and Bale are worried that Downey Jr. doesn't like their movie. :whatever:

Nolan is 10 times the director Faverau is...

Bale is 10 times the actor Downey is...

Naturally 'TDK' is the better film.


Thanks for the opinion Downey.

[Prison Mike]

I think everybody just needs to calm down. Iron Man...The Dark Knight...in the end, they're just movies.

[terry78]

I think everybody just needs to calm down. Iron Man...The Dark Knight...in the end, they're just movies.

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

That's a good one.

[Gilpesh]

I think everybody just needs to calm down. Iron Man...The Dark Knight...in the end, they're just movies.

No one needs to calm down... people just need to stop posting this article.

:whatever:

[Iron_Stark]

I'm sure Nolan and Bale are worried that Downey Jr. doesn't like their movie. :whatever:

Nolan is 10 times the director Faverau is...

Bale is 10 times the actor Downey is...

Naturally 'TDK' is the better film.


Thanks for the opinion Downey.

LMAO, No he isn't, but thanks for your opinion


What I also find funny is that batfans can go into every forum on this board and bash every movie and every actor not associated with the Batman franchise, yet when someone else criticizes thier movie, they get offended, they act like someone insulted thier mother.

What, is no one else allowed to have an opinion? Is everyone just suppossed to something postive about TDK or not say anything at all?

[Prison Mike]

No one needs to calm down... people just need to stop posting this article.

:whatever:

I know how this is going to turn out. It will be a Iron Man vs. Batman argument and all batfans are going to come in and say how much of a douche Downey Jr. is for having an opinion. While I don't agree with Downey, I wouldn't blast him for having an opinion.:whatever:

[Dark Knight90!]

LMAO, No he isn't, but thanks for your opinion


What I also find funny is that batfans can go into every forum on this board and bash every movie and every actor not associated with the Batman franchise, yet when someone else criticizes thier movie, they get offended, they act like someone insulted thier mother.

What, is no one else allowed to have an opinion? Is everyone just suppossed to something postive about TDK or not say anything at all?

And thank you for your Opinion.

I would thank Downey's for his again... but I've come to realize it's too ignorant, childish and *****y. I don't know if it's cause it made more money or he knows it's the better movie... but something is stinging him.

You don't see Bale running round... saying how much he felt Iron Man was a typical popcorn flick.

[Gilpesh]

I know how this is going to turn out. It will be a Iron Man vs. Batman argument and all batfans are going to come in and say how much of a douche Downey Jr. is for having an opinion. While I don't agree with Downey, I wouldn't blast him for having an opinion.:whatever:

What I hate is that people play into it so easy. Suddenly they're just at each other's throats... cause they've gone full retard.

[Iron_Stark]

And thank you for your Opinion.

I would thank Downey's for his again... but I've come to realize it's too ignorant, childish and *****y. I don't know if it's cause it made more money or he knows it's the better movie... but something is stinging him.

You don't see Bale running round... saying how much he felt Iron Man was a typical popcorn flick.

Nah, Bale's just running around beating up on family members.

Why insult someone who's got opinions? Are people not allowed to have opinions about things? Is everyone suppossed to love the great and flawless Dark Knight movie with the greatest director ever and the greatest cast that was ever assembled? :whatever:

Are people suppossed to STFU if they don't like something? Clearly batfans don't when it comes to other movies.

[Cosmic]

This thread has become sad. The reality is that Downey is one of the most gracious A-list celebs out there, and he was just having a little fun with this comment. We already know that the Iron Man crew loves what Nolan has done with Batman, and used it for inspiration on their film. It's kind of embarrassing to see people taking this so far out of proportion.

[Dark Knight90!]

Nah, Bale's just running around beating up on family members.

Why insult someone who's got opinions? Are people not allowed to have opinions about things? Is everyone suppossed to love the great and flawless Dark Knight movie with the greatest director ever and the greatest cast that was ever assembled? :whatever:

A quote fitting for Downey Jr. himself no doubt... seriously... we are talking about these actors careers and opinions... not their personal lives.

I don't know what Downey Jr's problem was/is...

And frankly I couldn't care less if he doesn't like The Dark Knight... he can however respect it...

as a professional actor working in the industry.

[Matt]

Its Robert Downey Jr. Not Sean Penn. Downey actually has a sense of humor and I am pretty sure he is being sarcastic.

[Iron_Stark]

That's what I've been thinking, RDJ's interviews are rarely serious and full of sarcasm, unless it's for a serious artsy movie.

I want to see the video of the interview.

[Gilpesh]

Its Robert Downey Jr. Not Sean Penn. Downey actually has a sense of humor and I am pretty sure he is being sarcastic.

NO HE HATES BATMAN SO I HATE HIM! #@*$&@#Y$#@%#@*%!






Or he could be joking... I'll just go with the hate though.[/fanboy] :whatever:

[Dark Knight90!]

NO HE HATES BATMAN SO I HATE HIM! #@*$&@#Y$#@%#@*%!






Or he could be joking... I'll just go with the hate though.[/fanboy] :whatever:

Not at all... I respect the man in general....

But if he wants to criticize The Dark Knight and Batman...

He could be more constructive than '**** DC' !

[Matt]

Not at all... I respect the man in general....

But if he wants to criticize The Dark Knight and Batman...

He could be more constructive than '**** DC' !

He wasn't actually criticizing it. He was poking fun at this whole mentality of "Marvel vs. DC for the summer champion."

[Gilpesh]

He wasn't actually criticizing it. He was poking fun at this whole mentality of "Marvel vs. DC for the summer champion."

Bingo.


How come no one can understand that in the billion threads that pop up about it?

[kakashi]

A quote fitting for Downey Jr. himself no doubt... seriously... we are talking about these actors careers and opinions... not their personal lives.

I don't know what Downey Jr's problem was/is...

And frankly I couldn't care less if he doesn't like The Dark Knight... he can however respect it...

as a professional actor working in the industry.

he's allowed to express his opinion anyway he sees fit...regardless the fact that he's an actor.

He doesn't have to 'respect' TDK. it's freakin movie...not the holy bible

[Dark Knight90!]

I meant more in terms that he should respect the actors and crew involved on the movie for the effort they put into it... as opposed to the movie itself.


Is that so wrong to expect?


And be careful of what you say sometimes... cause it's like Chinese whispers with the media.


Arrgh... what im i arguing about... No one on the Dark Knight will lose sleep over this... and its not like Bale and Downey Jr wont ever work together because of his comment.

[Gilpesh]

Hey Dark Knight90... it was most likely a joke. Get over it... I mean you don't see Bale beating the snot out of RDJ... and it seems like Bale is the beat up and ask questions later type.

[Dark Knight90!]

Hey Dark Knight90... it was most likely a joke. Get over it... I mean you don't see Bale beating the snot out of RDJ... and it seems like Bale is the beat up and ask questions later type.


No... your right... either way both Batman and Iron Man fans won this summer.

We have a third Batman and Iron Man 2 to look forward too. :yay: And comic book adaptions never looked better because of Both of these films.

[Gilpesh]

Woo! Everyone is friends again!

[Raiden]

After rereading his comments, I think RDJ was just joking. I think he was just being playful with the whole Marvel vs DC "feud", and besides Favreau has openly admit that he admired Nolan's BB so this is just a joke. But obviously the press wanted to make a big deal out of this so we are being bombarded by this non-news.

[fallenAngel]

It would be great if someone from the Batman cast or crew shot back or something. Creating more of a feud. For the first time in recent memory the Marvel and DC feud can actually be less serious because it's been a great year for both properties. Both sides have very popular movies to jump off of. Not like the last two years when everyone was arguing which movie sucked less, Spider man 3 or Super man Returns.

Of course RDJ is joking, and of course he is being serious too. Only he can pull of such unclear comments like this. Which are great because it throws so many lame media outlets into a tail spin of he said/she said celebrity feuds.

And I like that he is at least poking fun at the fact that so many people feel that The Dark Knight is the best/smartest movie ever. It's just so intelligent that so many pea brains can't handle it and dumb people are the only people who would bash/take it for what it was.

I blame fans more for this kind of attitude though, I don't think the movie itself was in love with itself. I think everyone involed was just trying to make a good movie. I don't get too strong of a pretentious vibe from the movie itself.

[Ironfan72]

I think he's joking as well, RDJ has that kind of sense of humor. Both Iron man and TDK were both excellent films and both characters fans should be proud of how they did and how good both fims were , and look forward to there sequals.

[Ghrunter]

He wasn't actually criticizing it. He was poking fun at this whole mentality of "Marvel vs. DC for the summer champion."

i totally agree, he just showing his support for Marvel like he has done in lots of interviews

[David Rice]

I love the man,but he just lost a bit of my respect

I agree. There is more than enough room for both Iron Man/Marvel and Batman/DC.

The guy just lost some of my respect as well.

[TheVileOne]

This is nothing to lose respect for him over.

If he were to ever fall off the wagon again after dedicating himself so much to sobriety.

I just found it so weird in that EW where he is still smoking cigarettes. I mean . . . replacing one addiction with another such a good thing?

[David Rice]

This is nothing to lose respect for him over.

If he were to ever fall off the wagon again after dedicating himself so much to sobriety.

I just found it so weird in that EW where he is still smoking cigarettes. I mean . . . replacing one addiction with another such a good thing?

I disagree. I just didn't see the need for it becuase I don't think he really believes what he said. If he does then I'd have to say he's one of the dumbest people on the face of the earth.

[Gilpesh]

I disagree. I just didn't see the need for it becuase I don't think he really believes what he said. If he does then I'd have to say he's one of the dumbest people on the face of the earth.

Stop being one of the idiots that RDJ is making fun of with his comments.

[David Rice]

Stop being one of the idiots that RDJ is making fun of with his comments.

Look who's talking.

[Gilpesh]

Look who's talking.

:whatever:

[jedimaster]

I agree with him- I thought the Dark Knight was ****.

[bluehulk]

Wow you guys are funny I can't believe people are getting uptight over one guys opinion, I mean it was just a movie. I liked both but RDJ:im: was just voicing his thoughts and if he was joking or not I found it very amusing, so just calm down folks The Dark Knight was not everyones cup of tea and I can respect that and for those of you losing respect for RDJ because he dissed TDK its not that serious. You know what I'm with RDJ F*** TDK:brucebat: and DC......just kidding:woot:

[TheVileOne]

I love the Dark Knight, but I think Downey Jr. totally dissing it is awesome.

I myself would consider it a great honor if Downey Jr. ran me down and totally dissed me.

[CaptainStacy]

You gotta admit; it's kinda funny watching Bat fans get all aghast over someone putting down TDK.

It's like "How DARE someone not like this movie!!!!"

Honestly; at first i thought RDJ's comments were out of line, but the more i think about it the more i respect him for speaking his mind. :up:

The man obviously gets off on poking the grizzly bear. :yay:

[terry78]

We talk about how everyone in Hollywood is all fake and what not, yet Downey, with his past experience has basically said, "I'm just gonna take everything in stride, tongue in cheek". As it should be.

[Anubis]

Well now, lets hope we get a nice DC vs Marvel Movie riverly between the stars. Course for that to happen, the WB would have to follow through with their plans to do stuff just like Marvel.

[David Rice]

You gotta admit; it's kinda funny watching Bat fans get all aghast over someone putting down TDK.

It's like "How DARE someone not like this movie!!!!"

Honestly; at first i thought RDJ's comments were out of line, but the more i think about it the more i respect him for speaking his mind. :up:

The man obviously gets off on poking the grizzly bear. :yay:

It's not really about that. It would be the same if Bale said something about Iron Man. Atleast for me anyway.

[chiefchirpa]

It's about time someone stands up for Marvel, joking or not.

[StylishHokie21]

Yeah, there really isn't anything wrong with what he said. It's his opinion after all. He's still cool in my book.

[Stringer]

This thread has become sad. The reality is that Downey is one of the most gracious A-list celebs out there, and he was just having a little fun with this comment. We already know that the Iron Man crew loves what Nolan has done with Batman, and used it for inspiration on their film. It's kind of embarrassing to see people taking this so far out of proportion.
Whoa, whoa, A-list?

[terry78]

Downey has always been an A-list actor. The addiction thing kind of screwed him, but he's never been low on the ladder.

[Stringer]

No way. A-listers are people like Tom Hanks, Denzel, Cheadle, Clooney, and Dicaprio. Downey Jr is a tier below that.

[marcvader]

If you think Cheadle and Clooney are A-listers you've got to include RDJ. The guy has had a career before IRONMAN you know. He's also been nominated for oscar as best actor and carried great movies before all of this.

[Stringer]

If you think Cheadle and Clooney are A-listers you've got to include RDJ. The guy has had a career before IRONMAN you know. He's also been nominated for oscar as best actor and carried great movies before all of this.
Pfft Chaplin? That was all the way back in 93. Just as you can work your way on to the A-list you can fall off, and he fell off awhile ago. Clooney and Cheadle have been making award-worthy movie the past 5 years straight.

[DarthAlani]

Cheadle is way overhyped. Clooney is a ignorant liberal and all his movies suck. Downey is honestly a better actor than both those chumps. Alot of A-lister are on their because they are tabloid darlings. I.E Brad Pitt. Not becuase of their talent.

[Stringer]

^You clearly have added nothing to the conversation above:o

[DBZ2cool]

If Robert isn't considered to be an A-list actor then there is no way in hell Christian Bale is an A-list.

[terry78]

Cheadle is way overhyped. Clooney is a ignorant liberal and all his movies suck. Downey is honestly a better actor than both those chumps. Alot of A-lister are on their because they are tabloid darlings. I.E Brad Pitt. Not becuase of their talent.

I agree with your stance, but regarding Cheadle and Clooney I disagree completely.

[Mr_Anderson]

Before everyone gets carried away with RDJ seemingly dissing & hating on TDK, read the following taken from the original source at Filmschool Rejects:

In contrast to that approach, he said of The Dark Knight:

"I saw The Dark Knight, I feel like I’m dumb because I don’t get how many things [are going on]…. I clearly need a college degree to understand this."

He further likened the Batman sequel to a “Ferrari engine of story telling.” For you non-gear heads, a Ferrari engine is a very complex machine. A few seconds later when probed about his feelings on the Christopher Nolan film, he responded with the now, in my mind, immortal line: Well you know what, **** DC Comics. He then clarified that he’s a fan of Marvel.

Now that may seem a bit prickish, but it was all in good fun. Everyone laughed at the table, including Downey himself, who then chuckled about burning bridges and expressed his affinity for the line “I’ll burn that bridge when I come to it.” In no way, either, should Downey’s comments be read to express some ill-feeling towards the Batman franchise or its stars - he expressed great appreciation (thought it was fantastic) over the Nolan, Bale, Caine reunion flick The Prestige. He just felt that The Dark Knight was a bit high-brow, a bit intellectual, and while those aren’t necessarily bad things, he didn’t want Iron Man to go that route, which I can appreciate.

Link to original article posted don the 4th of August (a good 13 days before the one in the original post):
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/junket-report/robert-downey-jr-on-iron-man-2-the-dark-knight-colin-farrell.php

The media always loves to write stuff out of context - Im sure the person who wrote the article in the first post of this thread wasn't even there at the interview & just wanted to focus on the negative.

Case dissmissed.

[Stringer]

If Robert isn't considered to be an A-list actor then there is no way in hell Christian Bale is an A-list.
I dont put Bale up there either, like I said Downey Jr. is a tier below the A-list group.

[Mr. Earle]

Well that wasnt very classy of RDJ was it? Only gonna make him unpopular, not TDK.

He is a spoiled brat isnt he? He really is Tony Stark isnt he?

[Iron_Stark]

No way. A-listers are people like Tom Hanks, Denzel, Cheadle, Clooney, and Dicaprio. Downey Jr is a tier below that.

Cheadle an A-Lister? LMAO yeah because he keeps churning blockbuster after blockbuster, and keeps getting awards for every movie he makes. Yeaaaah

Downey is ahead of Cheadle by a mile.

[Stringer]

Riiight. Cheadle's performance in "Devil in a Blue Dress" alone kills anything Downey has ever done in a movie, and that was just a supporting role.

[terry78]

Now you're getting into what constitues A-list status...talent or amount of box office. Cheadle is A-list regarding talent, no doubt.

[kakashi]

Prove of Cheadle greatness..hehe


http://www.theonion.com/content/video/international_scandal_don_cheadle

[TheVileOne]

Downey Jr. is NOW considered A-list after Tropic Thunder and Iron Man. Sorry guys no two ways about it. He's A-list.

[Stringer]

To my knowledge, Iron Man and Tropic Thunder havent earned Downey any awards. If we're going by a string of a couple of good, well recieved movies Judd Apatow is an A-list director and Shia Labeouf is an A-list actor.

[TheVileOne]

Shia LeBouf is A-list right now.

Judd Apatow can make just about any movie he wants right now and get a ton of talented people attached to it, and he gets a lot of his control over his projects. I'd say he's also an A-list filmmaker if NOT, producer.

Robert Downey Jr. can pretty much pick any project he wants to do right now. He's money, and everyone wants to work with him.

The good well received movies you are talking about were ZODIAC and KISS KISS BANG BANG. Iron Man and Tropic Thunder are not just well received, but their big box office hits. A lot of that can be attributed to his presence. He's A-list now.

[terry78]

Downey was known for doing a lot of indie dark comedy type things before Iron Man, for the most part. He was someone you'd cast, but not as a lead in a giant blockbuster.

[BETArayBill]

No way. A-listers are people like Tom Hanks, Denzel, Cheadle, Clooney, and Dicaprio. Downey Jr is a tier below that.

don cheadle is no way an a list actor when's the last time you ever heard anybody say lets go see that new don cheadle movie? but i def have to agree with downey now being a-list when you have the second highest grossing movie of the summer and a big comdey hit like tropic thunder and say you have offically moved to the a list.

[Agent 194]

I'm not going to argue Cheadle's stature on the 'great movie star' list, but I will say I've been waiting for him to make the Miles Davis story for over ten yrs. now as he's talked about in the past. That's the movie I think could vault him up to upper tier A list. Sadly I think he's probably too old for it now. Someone waited too long for that.

[Spidey220987]

Robert Downey Jr. is my FU$KING Hero right now! EVERYTHING He said in that interview about DC/TDK, I absolutely felt...one difference was that I have a BS in ME and a MS in EE...but I'm just too much of an engineering, and I too "stupid" to get all that artsy drama stuff of TDK. I'm not going to hate on the movie in bat forums like Bat fans like to do in everybody elses forum, but TDK was a ABSOLUTE letdown for me...I walked away like WTF was THAT?!?!? Amen to that,I thought I was the only one.
Did't live up to the hype for me.
I enjoyed it though,but was nowhere near as good as everyone was making out, in my opinion - 7/10
WHilst for me,Iron Man lived upto AND exceeded the hype for me.
Easy 10/10
And RDJ deserves extra points for the "**** DC comics" comment :lmao:

[Snikt]

So, how would you guys rate the actors that have been in Comic Book movies in the past few years?

Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan, Edward Norton, Robert Downey Jr., Aaron Eckhart, Heath Ledger, Alfred Molina, Brian Cox, Keanu Reeves, Nic Cage, Kevin Spacey and Gary Oldman.

I'd say for the most part, the Comic Book movie genre has attracted many A-List actors. And I do consider most of the above to be A-List actors. Really with the exception of the Fantastic Four movies and Daredevil, the movie studios have done a great job of casting good actors to play the parts, not necessarily the big names.

I, like most, was not familair with Hugh Jackman until he was cast as Wolverine, but I find him to be a great actor. Same with Christian Bale, I watched his previous works after I saw Batman Begins, and now he is one of my favorite actors.

[tekken]

dark knight didn't live up to the hype? dang, what were you expecting dude?

i liked iron man as much as the next guy, but it just didn't satisfy as much as dark knight did. this is coming from a DC guy, so there is a little bias in what i'm saying.

[Spidey220987]

dark knight didn't live up to the hype? dang, what were you expecting dude?

i liked iron man as much as the next guy, but it just didn't satisfy as much as dark knight did. this is coming from a DC guy, so there is a little bias in what i'm saying.LOL!
I read a few reviews before the film (non-spoiler reviews) and they were describing it as epic,film of the decade,best Comic Book Movie of all time, etc.
So I at least hoped to be blown away,but at the end of the film,I was like "meh,is that it?" lol :oldrazz:
I did like it,don't get me wrong, I'm just not as crazy about it like everyone else seems to be.
Iron Man pretty much nailed what I'd expect in an Iron Man movie, for me anyway.
Probably coz I'm not a huge Batman fan either (Batman fanboys are the worst :cwink: ) :oldrazz:

[TheVileOne]

Robert Downey Jr. said what everyone's been wanting him to say for a long time.

[Agent 194]

Evidently the Japanese said what some were thinking too. They also speak for me on this matter..

.http://trekmovie.com/2008/08/30/sci-fi-saturday-batman-watchmen-fringe-torchwood-heroes-daisies-terminator-more/#comments

check it out here

[Rishi]

....he understood the Prestige, but not the Dark Knight?

k. clearly joking

[TheVileOne]

Iron Man is going to CLEAN Batman's clock in Japan. There I said it.

Robert Downey Jr. talking smack on Batman makes me hot :D .

[Agent 194]

I wonder why it takes so long for a movie like Iron Man to open in Japan. Is their movie slate that full? Seems odd to me.

[Gotham'sKnight]

the guy is hilarious,lol brilliant actor. Im a huge batman fan, so don't kill me for enjoying this,lol I don't think any1 should pay it mind, he's just being loyal to marvel and his movie. Same yr and all. But you kno he loved tdk too. O and altho I loved iron man, it held nothing on tdk srry

[terry78]

The concept of Iron Man in general is similar to a lot of sci-fi anime past and present over there, so yeah he'll do some decent coin.

[Agent 194]

On a totally unrelated note....I just heard Don LaFontaine is dead. He won't be doing the voice over on the next Iron Man trailer. Shame. He was so great.


"In a world......"

[hatebox]

When TDK clears a billion WW the small anomaly that was the Japanese BO won't matter a whole lot.

I mean, the Mummy 3 did well in japan so... there you go. This kind of thing is never an exact science.

[Agent 194]

Do you really think it'll hit a billion?

[fu manchu]

I was thinking, has anyone from TDK said anything about the Iron Man movie?

[hatebox]

I was thinking, has anyone from TDK said anything about the Iron Man movie?

I haven't heard anything. I doubt it was ever even on their radar.

TDK will hit 1 billion, it'll just take a very long time. It'll be playing internationally for a long while yet, and has about 15 million left in the US.

[fu manchu]

doubt it was on their radar? It was the number 1 movie of the summer before TDK. Someone must have watched it.

[hatebox]

doubt it was on their radar? It was the number 1 movie of the summer before TDK. Someone must have watched it.

If they have they have they haven't mentioned it to my knowledge.

Besides, people involved in making films are surprisingly disinclined to watching many other movies.

I'm pretty sure Nolan and co. HAVE watched IM at some point and probably though 'not bad'.

[fu manchu]

i would just love to see what they thought of Iron Man, whether its positive or negative.

[Agent 194]

I would agree with others....they seem to be taking the high road. They don't need to do anything else.

[FlawlessVictory]

The fact that the busiest thread in the Iron Man 2 section deals with the main actor talking about another comic book film says a lot. :hehe:

[Tony Stark]

The fact that the busiest thread in the Iron Man 2 section deals with the main actor talking about another comic book film says a lot. :hehe:

And DC Fanboys who got their panties in a wad, don't seem to get that Downey said this as a joke.

If you saw Tropic Thunder (which this quote was taken at a premier), and saw it's "viral campaign" you ought to know it was a joke, and sit back and have a laugh.

[FlawlessVictory]

^That's cool. I could care less if RDJ was totally joking, totally serious or just half joking. Good for him. I just find it amusing that the thread with the most traffic in the Iron Man 2 section is one that is not even about Iron Man but rather another comic book movie altogether.

[matrix_ghost]

I'm definately in the camp that believes that RDK was just joking about this.
It's ironic that RDJ jokes about the DC/Marvel rivalry while Jon Favreau really is impressed by Batman BEgins and The Dark KNight.

[nolan's roll'n]

I too believe he was being sarcastic or joking but other DC fans will take it too far and think he's serious.

[I Am The Knight]

Robert Downey Jr. talking smack on Batman makes me hot :D .

Nothing more disturbing than what you just said.

If they have they have they haven't mentioned it to my knowledge.

Besides, people involved in making films are surprisingly disinclined to watching many other movies.

I'm pretty sure Nolan and co. HAVE watched IM at some point and probably though 'not bad'.

Personally, I think Nolan probably despised Iron Man, or simply didn't care for it. If he has seen it, of course, which I doubt he has.

The fact that the busiest thread in the Iron Man 2 section deals with the main actor talking about another comic book film says a lot. :hehe:

Ouch! :hehe:

[Agent 194]

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlawlessVictory
The fact that the busiest thread in the Iron Man 2 section deals with the main actor talking about another comic book film says a lot. :hehe:

I would agree on that point.

[Spider-Vader]

Iron Man is going to CLEAN Batman's clock in Japan. There I said it.

Robert Downey Jr. talking smack on Batman makes me hot :D .
It hasn't come out there yet?

[kakashi]

^That's cool. I could care less if RDJ was totally joking, totally serious or just half joking. Good for him. I just find it amusing that the thread with the most traffic in the Iron Man 2 section is one that is not even about Iron Man but rather another comic book movie altogether.


Probably due to the fact that you can't mention anything bad about TDK without having a thousand bat fans coming to defend it...thats most likely is the reason why this thread is still alive.

[Zephyr Alexian]

“You know what? F--- DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from.”

Hahaha. Listen to RDJ. This is some funny stuff. I don't think he even means what he said; he's intelligent enough to know that this will endear him to Marvel fans. However, Marvel vs DC is a foolish feud to begin with imho. I like Iron-man and Batman. Have for years and always will. I hope both continue to thrive, but I don't understand his point about TDK being 'high-brow'. It wasn't difficult to follow at all.

Really, a mere bachelors to understand a film? Please: A CPA can do your taxes, but if he can't follow film developments, he'll take away less from a film than some high-school dropout who's obsessed with the character or an avid fan. He makes it seem like Darren Aronofsky directed it.

He still gets major credit for saying that publicly. The funny thing is that he's in WarnerBros - Guy Ritchie' helmed - new version of Holmes. I wonder how those preliminary conversations will go/went.

Warner Pres: So, Robert, we're glad to have you on board as Holmes. Quick question though: we read one of your interviews.
RDJ: Wtf are you talking about?
Warner Pres: You said, and I quote: '**** DC comics!'
RDJ: Nope, that wasn't me. ****ing liars. I don't curse.
Warner Pres: We also have audio of you saying it again. . . .and again.
RDJ: Hey, look man. That's probably photoshop.
Warner Pres: Uh, photoshop? That's a visual feature.
RDJ: Let me give you something visual. *flips the bird* Marvel for life!!!
Warner Pres: Are you high right now?
RDJ: Look man! I've never been high-brow! Who does Nolan think he is! I bet he thinks that he could play Sherlock.
Warner Pres: Technically, he does look the p--
RDJ: And I played a dude DISGUISED AS ANOTHER DUDE MUTTA****A!!!

[K.B.]

Anyone who thinks RDJ was joking is fooling themselves. Look not EVERYONE loved TDK and RDJ didnt its that simple.

I agree with him.

[chiefchirpa]

RDJ is unlike the numerous She-Males, Bi-s in the comic world who doesn't know their preference between DC Comics or Marvel. Whether RDJ does it jokingly or not, he's a MAN for letting us know his preference.

[I Am The Knight]

Anyone who thinks RDJ was joking is fooling themselves. Look not EVERYONE loved TDK and RDJ didnt its that simple.

I agree with him.

It's hard to tell...I think he liked it, didn't love it due to the not-so-easy-to-understand plot I guess?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Wait, people actually think that he was being serious?

[I Am The Knight]

Wait people actually think that he was being serious?

Only the extremists :hehe:

[Alpha and Omega]

Yeah, I see this as being one big rally call for marvel fans; nothing more. It's all for show.

[TheVileOne]

Even if he is serious, I still love it.

[kedrell]

I already felt that way about TDK(over-rated and overall BB was better), so it doesn't bother me a bit that he said that.

[hatebox]

Whether or not he was joking (I'm going with the 'some truths are said in jest' notion) I still like the idea that Nolan and co. probably haven't even seen Iron Man...

[dodgers2213]

Iron Man>>>>>>The Dark Knight

[hatebox]

Iron Man>>>>>>The Dark Knight

Yup, just repeat it enough times and it might come true! :woot:

[webhead731]

I liked Dark Knight but I don't think it's the best. I think it's kinda overrated. Don't stomp on me for saying that. -_-

RDJ saying it was awful is kinda a shock to me. I can't see how anyone could say that, but hey, opinions.

[Thot]

Downey is rather unapologetically expressing some of the same problems that I too had with TDK. The movie just about collapses under its own weight. It is SO dark, SO serious and has such a downer ending that it lacked the exhiliration that I want and expect from any superhero film. Dont' get me wrong, there was a lot that I liked (Ledger's Joker, top-notch action sequences), but was generally disappointed. I found Iron Man to be the superior movie in every way. I hope to God that superhero movies from here on out don't imitate TDK, that would be disastrous. My hope is that after Nolan is done with his trilogy that the Batman franchise will be lightened up just a bit. Again, I liked TDK, just felt a bit let down. For me, summer 2008 looks like this;

1. Iron Man
2. TIH
3. TDK

[TheVileOne]

I doubt WB was upset with Robert Downey Jr. because they get one of the hottest stars on the planet in one of their new tentpole movies. Downey pretty much equals money right now. He's the new Johnny Depp. He's a hot commodity now. You think they care if he says that? Nope, I bet they want him in their movie more.

Plus WB could always just brush if off as bravado if it was ever brought up again, part of his fun-loving personality.

[dewa130]

I love RDJ, he is an asset to the American movie industry. He is an A List actor the way he dive into his roles. he is an actor while De caprio , clooney are celebrities. ref TDK, not every one is crazy about it. I like it and I hope the next Iron man sequel wouldd go indepth in its story. My brother who saw it says TDK was ok but not that great. While I say TDK is a well made movie because of Chris Nolan. While Iron Man still has typical american super hero film and because of RDJ that it differs itself from the other Marvel movies.

[Leenie]

I love him even more for saying that ... And I love The Dark Knight.

This is just Robert Downey Jr. being himself, and he's just plain wonderful because of it. I love how he doesn't sugarcoat anything he says. He's an A-list actor without the pretentious and/or airheaded attitude ... How can anyone not love that?!

Go RDJ! :im:

[Stringer]

Ugh, here we go with this Robert Downey on the A-list crap again.

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah, he's no A-List, as much as he deserves to be, IMO.

[hatebox]

Yeah, he's no A-List, as much as he deserves to be, IMO.

I'm not quite sure how being the main draw to the second most successful movie of the year doesn't make one an A-lister, but the success of his next few films will be telling I suppose. Tropic Thunder didn't actually make that much money.

[Stringer]

Being in high grossing films doesnt make you an A-lister. You have to be in successful films as well as give award winning performances. And not MTV award winning performances.

[TheVileOne]

He got a lot more credibility from his performances in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and also Zodiac which pretty much got snubbed by the Academy.

After Iron Man and Tropic Thunder, yes he is an A-lister.

[hatebox]

Being in high grossing films doesnt make you an A-lister. You have to be in successful films as well as give award winning performances. And not MTV award winning performances.

"A-Lister" is a completely arbitrary term as it is, but if it's to do with anything it's to do with box office draw. Whether RDJ has it beyond IM remains to be seen, but I'm guessing he currently does enough to be called an A-lister right now.

[terry78]

There are many actors that only do hoity-toity indie flicks, and no one hears about them until they're nommed at the Oscars, yet I would consider many of them A-list. I know that means their box office draw, but I call A-list in regards to talent.

[Stringer]

Its definitely more about the performances than the money they bring in. I think taking into account how much of a draw they are is what separates great actors like Tom Hanks from other great actors like Gary Oldman. A-listers can do both.

[TheVileOne]

Robert Downey Jr. rebuilt his career the right way. He quietly got back on the good side of critics and audiences with strong performances in good, smaller movies. And then he transitioned back into blockbusters that were VERY successful. He got a lot of good buzz and recognition as Avery in Zodiac, and that wasn't the lead.

[Chewy]

Downey played Avery in Zodiac.

And I don't consider the way he rebuilt his career to be "quiet" at all. He was in 10 movies in only three years (2005-2007) before he got his big Iron Man break. Sure, none of them were blockbusters and one of them was the Tim Allen Shaggy Dog remake (:hehe:), but that's still a ****load of movies in a relatively short time.

[The Don Killuminati]

wow, i love RDJ and Iron Man, but damn thats kinda cold. just because he was too ****ed up to understand the movie lol. if my 15 year old sister understood the movie, RDJ should be able to. if not, he has a whole different box of issues.

i loved iron man and RDJ in it though. he did awesome and the movie was awesome. but this interview sounds like he got pissed that The Dark Knight ***** slapped Iron Man. pretty disrespectful. a simple "i didnt like it" would be fine, but a "**** DC" is kinda harsh.

[Abaddon]

I like Robert Downey Jr. even more for doing it.

He's carrying the Marvel brand name. At Comic Con, when I got his autograph, I was wearing a Spider-man shirt and he yelled, "That is a dead franchise!" It's all in good fun. He's simply being half-facetious and repping the character he's playing.

hahaha, I liked him before, but now I'm a little in love.

[pjspider1C]

I find Downey's comments hilarious. I loved Iron Man... loved The Dark Knight... I think Downey was just poking fun at the movie because he's portraying a Marvel character. Nothing more, nothing less. Just some good old fashion hazing. :)

[SuperKoala]

it's just a little friendly competition between marvel and dc

[ord0g]

I find Downey's comments hilarious. I loved Iron Man... loved The Dark Knight... I think Downey was just poking fun at the movie because he's portraying a Marvel character. Nothing more, nothing less. Just some good old fashion hazing. :)
Whether or not that was the case he's still the man.

[L3G3NDK1LLER]

I would gladly take Marvel over DC any day of the week, but I think Dark Knight was a better movie. Although Downey was amazing.

[pjspider1C]

One reason why Dark Knight was more enjoyable than Iron Man is because it wasn't an origin story. Personally, as much as I enjoy origin stories, when you seem them in a variety of different ways with the same character, it becomes a little old...

Another reason why Dark Knight was more enjoyable - Heath Ledger's portrayal as the Joker.

[SamuraiSon6]

pretty funny comments, i think RDJ is the kinda man that fully takes on his role(not joking because of Tropic Thunder) and that he is playing the role of the fanboy for marvel, he is in competition with DC and batman. he probably got applauded the next time he walked into a marvel office, just for playing the role

[LightningFlash]

RDJ is just having fun being on the right track.

[drax]

RDJ is very funny, I think myself that the Dark Knight is a horrible movie, I find a great website about this crap, with various great articles and funny comments:

http://thedarkknightsucks.com/

[The Ace of Knaves]

RDJ is a funny guy, I'm sure his comments were tongue in cheek to say the least.

Why do you think TDK is a horrible movie drax? Too different from your standard comic book movie? I can get why some people think that, it isn't exactly filled with explosive action, it's more a character/story driven film.

[Doctor Jones]

He's here just to find a cozy place for haters and go where they go just to drop in. I think he may be alone.

Plus, this discussion is stupid, knowing Downey Jr, he was kidding, I mean did you read it?

And what if he didn't like it? So damn what?

[The Ace of Knaves]

I love your sig man!! Bale is nuts!

[Octoberist]

RDJ is very funny, I think myself that the Dark Knight is a horrible movie, I find a great website about this crap, with various great articles and funny comments:

http://thedarkknightsucks.com/

The thing about the site is that it doesn't have the weight of its sister site, superman returns sucks.com, because the general census is in the positive side (whereas Superman Returns is mixed at best)

So while humorous, it doesn't mean a whole lot to many people, because there's not a whole lot of people who 'hated' the movie. Some might think it's disappointing, some might find it okay, but not to the point where it's pure hatred. And it's goes beyond being here, when it comes to being a nerd.

[Octoberist]

He's here just to find a cozy place for haters and go where they go just to drop in. I think he may be alone.

Plus, this discussion is stupid, knowing Downey Jr, he was kidding, I mean did you read it?

And what if he didn't like it? So damn what?

I love Downey.

You'll be surprise how people don't get wit. And it's pretty damn obvious sarcasm too. That's sad.

[Majik1387]

This thread is full of hysterical posts.
:lmao:

[Octoberist]

wah wah

[drax]

The thing about the site is that it doesn't have the weight of its sister site, superman returns sucks.com, because the general census is in the positive side (whereas Superman Returns is mixed at best)

So while humorous, it doesn't mean a whole lot to many people, because there's not a whole lot of people who 'hated' the movie. Some might think it's disappointing, some might find it okay, but not to the point where it's pure hatred. And it's goes beyond being here, when it comes to being a nerd.

I find this website great, I don't care about peoples taste about this movie, I have no idea if everybody love or hate this movies, I don't live for the others, I just give my opinion and this website for people like me who hate this movie, unlike you, I think it's a great to have this kind of website, the webmaster do a really good job.

[The Ace of Knaves]

The thing with the TDK hate, is that 9 times out of 10 people don't actually hate the film, they just hate the reaction to it and the fact that it is supposedly the "in thing" at the moment.

I had a look on that website, the bloke doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. An example. Some one posted on there about it's similarities to The Killing Joke. Then the guy who runs the site says it is NOTHING like TKJ. Has he even read the book? Has he even seen the film?

And also, he says the Joker was too grim, he wasn't funny enough. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't find a guy who gasses kindergartens and poisons boy scouts to be a funny guy. The ONLY person who should find Joker funny is himself.

[drax]

The thing with the TDK hate, is that 9 times out of 10 people don't actually hate the film, they just hate the reaction to it and the fact that it is supposedly the "in thing" at the moment.


No, it's not true, I have seen lot of people who dislike the movie for the movie himself and not about the hype (but I also know lot of peoples that hate this movies for that), I don't do a poll for to know their reasons but I don't think it's 9/10, you can see lot of them in various website (see my link).

Maybe for you it would be a surprise, but I'm really glad of the success of this movie despite I really hate the Dark Knight (really deeply), simply because I'm a comics fan and I think this success would have lot of positives things for the futur of superhero movies, now studio are aware with movies like Iron Man and the Dark Knight (sadly the incredible Hulk don't have the same success) that the great success is not just for Spider-man movies, but that lot of superheroes movies can do the same and I think we will see that in the futur.:yay:

For example for me it was a big surprise that Iron Man have so much success, in my country he is not very well know before the movie, but now lot of peoples know him, for hero like Spider-man, Batman and Superman it's very easy because everybody know them, but not really Iron Man, like a comics fan, I really like to see that.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Yea well I was exaggerating with the 9 out of 10 thing. But I guarantee a lot of people are like that.

But drax, why do you hate the film?

[Daredevil_2003]

RDJ is a funny guy, I'm sure his comments were tongue in cheek to say the least.Yeah, even if it was serious as can be, I still like him. Probably even more if that was 100% serious. I might not like the opinion, but expressing it so honestly is certainly endearing to me.

But yeah, doubt it. It's probably his usual smart-ass comments. He did it for the lulz. :grin:


Why do you think TDK is a horrible movie drax?Trollin? Mind-altering drug addiction? Trying to be 'unique'? Making a poor attempt at a Downey? Who knows... :huh: Probably the first one, though.

Too different from your standard comic book movie? I can get why some people think that, it isn't exactly filled with explosive action, it's more a character/story driven film.It is different from the standard movie, but the funny thing is a lot of storylines in the comics are just like that. I always found it odd that some love the comics but complain when a film delivers the same kind of treatment. :o

[drax]

Yea well I was exaggerating with the 9 out of 10 thing. But I guarantee a lot of people are like that.

But drax, why do you hate the film?

I hate this movie simply because I find that horrible, I hate the way batman talk in this movie, he seem asmathic or he have a too big tongue for this mouth, he seem to lisp, I can't see him seriously after that.

I hate also the action sequence, Nolan have a big problem with the fights, they are not well done, poorly filmed, edited and executed, I'm also a HK fans, specially kung fu movie, and to see Batman, a great martial artist in the comics, can't move and can't fight well, it's very painful to see that, for example I would like to see him fight like Emil Blonski (with the super soldier serum) in incredible Hulk movie, for me action sequences are a big failure and I can't forgive that because the Dark Knight is an action movie, it's specially for that I hate this movie.

I really dislike the two face, I find horrible in this movie, he is not really a bad guy, he become two face for maybe 10 minutes in this movie and have an horrible death, it's the second time that Nolan destroy one of my favorite batman foes, the first was the scarecrow, who have been beaten by Kathie Holmes.

I dislike the joker, he look like too much of Brandon Lee the crow imo, I prefer him like the comics, but it's just my point of view.

I dislike the story, I hate the chicago gotham, Batman don't seem a good detective in this movie, he don't use batarang, I hate also the batmobile.

It's for that The Ace of Knaves, that I hate this movie, it's not just the realistic side of this movie (I don't like also this side) because I like Punisher movies, I don't like the movie himself, the story, the costume, action sequences etc...

For Daredevil_2003, you could stay polite with me, I don't insult you or the dark Knight fans, if I want trolling, I will go in the Dark Knight board, not in Iron Man board, I just give my opinion about this movie and give the link of the website (for other people who dislike this movie), nothing more, like I have already said, I'm happy with the success of the Dark Knight like a comics fan, and it's not really my problem if people love or hate this movie, I don't want change fans opinions with this movie, and I don't think that it's an obligation or a sin to dislike the Dark Knight.

Thank you for The Ace of Knaves for to reply and for to have a polite discussion with me.