The Presidential Debates

[kane9321]

ohh joe get her

[CFE]

Biden says "Bush's" funny...tee hee :woot:

CFE

[Addendum]

Jeez, that was the loudest inhale through the nose I've heard since my late grandpa would when having to deal with mischevious grandkids.

[Franklin Richards]

"Past is prologue, Gwen." --- Joe Biden



:thing: :doom: :thing:

[hippie_hunter]

Jeez, that was the loudest inhale through the nose I've heard since my late grandpa would when having to deal with mischevious grandkids.

I thought the same thing.

[Hobgoblin]

Well Joe, McCain's non answers about how he differs from Bush on all those issues is because he voted with him 90%.

[redfirebird2008]

Someone needs to tell her to stop attempting to say "nuclear" because she screws it up every time, and it's especially distracting when the moderator and her opponent both say it correctly immediately before she botches it.

[kane9321]

Jeez, that was the loudest inhale through the nose I've heard since my late grandpa would when having to deal with mischevious grandkids.

crap..u heard that too...good lord

[Addendum]

They aren't saying anything. You don't even hear what they're saying, they just give points. It's so freaking dumb because asides from John King they're so freaking biased.

Then change the channel.

The only thing MSNBC has is their logo with the "live" flag above it, a graphic saying "the vice presidential debate" and then popping up above that, the recent question the moderator asks.

[Venom'sDad]

She's beginning to lose steam :funny:.... expected foriegn policy would.

[The Sage]

Biden's the most articulate speaker I've heard in the debates so far, President and Vice-President.

[hippie_hunter]

But I hate the other news channels more and they don't come in awesome, awesome HD :(

[kane9321]

surge will not work...ding

[C.F. Kane]

Jeez, going back to the schools defense? What's the good of building schools in a country where the middle class has fled? Who the hell's going to teach there?

[Hobgoblin]

Joe uses more quotes and stats. :up:

"Our own commanding general said today that the surge strategy in Iraq wont work in Afghanistan."

Uh oh, he just sighed as she answered.

[redfirebird2008]

But I hate the other news channels more and they don't come in awesome, awesome HD :(

I'm watching it on CBS in high def right now. The broadcast networks are all carrying it in high def.

[BMM]

Someone needs to tell her to stop attempting to say "nuclear" because she screws it up every time, and it's especially distracting when the moderator and her opponent both say it correctly immediately before she botches it.

She seems to favor the letter "u" but not the letter "g." :csad:

Biden's the most articulate speaker I've heard in the debates so far, President and Vice-President.

I agree.

[Cmill216]

But I hate the other news channels more and they don't come in awesome, awesome HD :(

I'm just watching it on NBC. No scorecards here. :oldrazz:

[Venom'sDad]

LOL... Biden is lecturing now.... he's feeling confident..... he's beginning to talk to much.

Palin is searching....

[Gilpesh]

Wow... Biden owned her so hard... that her answer that "it will work" sounds desperate.

[rdh007]

Religious nutbags who have control over the military and thus control over the entire country.

Everyone else can trust us and the Iranians--there's nothing worse.

[CFE]

Biden's the most articulate speaker I've heard in the debates so far, President and Vice-President.

Agreed.

I've got to say, out of the collective 4 of them, Biden seems like the coolest guy.

Not a politician, but just as a guy...he seems genuine to me, personally. When he comments on how he needs to wrap up BC his time's winding down...

He feels natural speaking up there...Palin, on the other hand, has looked sufficiently akward the entire time.

CFE

[Handsome Rob]

Well Joe, McCain's non answers about how he differs from Bush on all those issues is because he voted with him 90%.

And Obama "voted with Bush" 40% of the time.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/cq-assets/cqmultimedia/flash/votestudy/index.html

[C.F. Kane]

Her whole argument seems like a long-winded version of "trust me".

[hippie_hunter]

Biden just gave an excellent response on Afghanistan.

[Gilpesh]

Palin better have her Darfur notes... that's probably what she keeps looking at.

"What's a dar for?"

[redfirebird2008]

Hippie, did you check the broadcast channels (or do you not have them in HD)?

[rdh007]

Biden's the most articulate speaker I've heard in the debates so far, President and Vice-President.

QFT I :heart: Joe Biden, though. My wife's getting jealous. :(

[Venom'sDad]

LOL... I thought Biden was fina start saying "Yes We Can"

[Matt]

Making to merge since I closed the old poll due to pre-debate voting.

[Handsome Rob]

Biden's the most articulate speaker I've heard in the debates so far, President and Vice-President.

True. :up:

[CFE]

"It's so obvious that I'm a Washington Outsider..."

That's the most truthful statement she's made tonight.

CFE

[Hobgoblin]

I wouldnt use the "I was for it before I was against it" strategy Palin.
Glass house.

[redfirebird2008]

"I watched those debates."

Yeah right.

[kane9321]

washington outsider

[Arc-Light]

Can I vote now, I already heard enough.

[C.F. Kane]

She's playing the outsider card. That was almost a Tina Fey moment.

[Addendum]

Biden's response about Afghanistan and Darfur was excellent.

Palin's response so far has been weak.

[kane9321]

I'm sick of alaska

[Gilpesh]

Um.... Palin better watch those "for it before I was against it" statements...

[BlackLantern]

It's a debate....you don't really need to watch it in HD.......you can tell Biden just wants ask her if she's retarded

[Addendum]

What the hell does Alaska have to do with freakin' Darfur?!

[Excel]

I cant wait to see snls take on this.

"It's so obvious that I'm a Washington Outsider..."

That's the most truthful statement she's made tonight.

CFE

No doubt indeed

[redfirebird2008]

Oh, Biden connecting McCain directly to Cheney on the Iraq issue. Ouch.

[kane9321]

she has no clue what shes talking about

[hippie_hunter]

Hippie, did you check the broadcast channels (or do you not have them in HD)?
I just did, I got too used to CNN :csad:

I disgust myself :csad:

[CFE]

It's a debate....you don't really need to watch it in HD.......you can tell Biden just wants ask her if she's retarded

You can see it in his eyes...definately.

CFE

[Venom'sDad]

She's flamming out....:yay:

[Bunker]

Haha, your sig Excel.

[Addendum]

I'm sorry, THAT was the weakest response

[C.F. Kane]

John McCain knows how to win a war? How many wars has he won?

[Excel]

mccains won a war???

[Gilpesh]

Uh................ I............... let's d-d-disagree

[kane9321]

wtf is she talking about....McCain knows how to in a war....the hell shes talking about?

[hippie_hunter]

It's a debate....you don't really need to watch it in HD.......
I'm spoiled dammit, I wanna watch Palin's MILFyness and Biden's awesomeness in HD :cmad:

[The Chris]

She seems to know as much as I know about politics, which is nothing.

[Handsome Rob]

wtf is she talking about....McCain knows how to in a war....the hell shes talking about?

I'll admit it: I don't get that one myself, either.

[redfirebird2008]

John McCain knows how to win a war? How many wars has he won?

Zero. And last I checked, getting your plane shot down isn't exactly the sign of a great warrior.

[C.F. Kane]

wtf is she talking about....McCain knows how to in a war....the hell shes talking about?

Sarah Palin = Talking Point Bot 9000

[Addendum]

John McCain knows how to win a war? How many wars has he won?

[Fargo accent]well, he was in Vietnam don'tcha kno...[/fargo accent]

[Venom'sDad]

I'm sick of alaska

Alaska is a great state. ;)

[Franklin Richards]

I love how her tone switches when she kicks in the rehearsed material.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Excel]

Haha, your sig Excel.

:cwink:

[Gilpesh]

SHE WINKED!


whaaaaaaaaaat

[C.F. Kane]

[Fargo accent]well, he was in Vietnam don'tcha kno...[/fargo accent]

Now I totally want to hear Palin say "woodchipper". :woot:

[Venom'sDad]

She's done....... I'm ready to vote now.

[Hobgoblin]

Sarah Palin = Talking Point Bot 9000

Pretty much. Lots of nice ideas, not a lot of facts.

Oh, McCain wants to give power back to the people. Even though he says he wants to be a dictator.:cwink:

[redfirebird2008]

"He's never asked me to check my opinions at the door."

That qualifies as a gaffe. McCain himself in the Katie Couric interview said, "You don't say that in public. Of course she agrees with my position" when talking about the fact that she had supported Obama's position on dealing with terrorists in Pakistan.

[kane9321]

ahh crap..she brought her crappy lil town in the mix

[CFE]

Y'know she keeps calling McCain a 'maverick' and it makes me wonder...

Does that mean he's too much of a 'maverick' to be trusted in the Oval Office?

CFE

[Matt]

With this thing winding down, the poll is open to vote.

[Franklin Richards]

mccains won a war???

Viet ****ing Nam, man!!!! :up:


Goddamn I need some Doors.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Arc-Light]

AHHH THE BS.........SHE SAYS.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/INBuckeye/thestupiditburns.jpg

[rdh007]

I love how her tone switches when she kicks in the rehearsed material.


:thing: :doom: :thing:
Yes. But that may well be enough.

[Raiden]

I love how Palin likes to avoid responding to Biden, and would go off on a tangent about some other topic she's familiar with, like energy.

[redfirebird2008]

Doggone it. LOL.

[The Chris]

Wtf?

[Excel]

"SAY IT AINT SO JOE THERE YOU GO AGAIN DOG GONE IT"

Is she ****ing serious?

[kane9321]

say it aint so joe.....sweet christ..tina fey is gonna have a field day

[Gilpesh]

With this thing winding down, the poll is open to vote.

I thought you'd be busy watching Always Sunny. :o

[redfirebird2008]

"My brother...who I think is the best school teacher in the year."

What? Doesn't even make sense.

[Knives]

Ok she has completely fallen apart this second half. Foreign policy threw her off to hell. And now she is reepating the same crap fromt he first hour and trying to "cute" herself up. This is making me vomit.

[C.F. Kane]

This is starting to sound like the Checkers speech.

[Hobgoblin]

Knock off the school shout out. Stay on target.

[Handsome Rob]

Reagan: There you go again . . .

Palin: There you go again . . .

Is that the first Reagan reference, directly or indirectly?

[BMM]

I'm sorry what was the question again, Sarah?

[BMM]

Double post.

[Excel]

lol I liked that..."extra credit for watchign this debate"

[kane9321]

Wtf wtf ..is she talking about....shoot me

[Handsome Rob]

EDIT: Oh, come on!!

[Addendum]

say it aint so joe.....sweet christ..tina fey is gonna have a field day

All she'll have to do is read verbatim Palin's responses

[Gotham]

She was doing moderately well until that last response. That absolutely stunned her for the rest of the debate, I think.

[kane9321]

shes done...this was the nail in the coffin

[CFE]

It must've been a REALLY bad joke, BC I didn't hear one...

CFE

[redfirebird2008]

LOL, now she's trying to explain that "of course" she knows what the VP does. BWHAHAHAHA.

[Excel]

wtf was that...Palins never seemed like a real buitch but that was dumb

[Knives]

So i guess she is resorting to acting like a cutie pie hoping nobody notices she is full of ****?

[The Chris]

I'm just completely shocked. Is this really a vice presidential debate or a sparing session?

[terry78]

Did she just say...."give a shout out?!!!!"

:dry:

[RKO]

Biden wants to walk to her and punch her in the mouth.

[Excel]

It must've been a REALLY bad joke, BC I didn't hear one...

CFE

yeah wtf :huh:

[Addendum]

If special needs was so "near and dear to her heart", why did she cut the budget for the special olympics in Alaska?

[CFE]

Did she just say...."give a shout out?!!!!"

:dry:

We've been having to deal with a lot of "She said wha???" tonight, I'm afraid...

CFE

[Gilpesh]

EDIT: Oh, come on!!

I know Rob... you're losing your touch.

[jaguarr]

Why is it that whenever Sarah Palin is asked a direct question she almost automatically gives an answer for a completely different question and topic and has to be asked more than once to answer the original question? :huh: She did it to Gibson, Couric and now Ifill. Maybe she's had too much mercury from eating all that wonderful Alaaaaaskan saaaalmon. :huh:

jag

[Team Andino]

wtf is she talking about....McCain knows how to in a war....the hell shes talking about?

I would say she saw him beat Call of Duty 4 on easy but I don't think he can hold a controller... (Don't wanna sound like an ass but I really don't think hes be able to since hes unable to type on a keyboard)

[rdh007]

She got told to use "Say it ain't so, Joe" and "There you go again" and had to kill two birds with one stone?

[Überlibran]

OMG it's like he's debating Peggy Hill !

[Mikelus]

LMAO! So now it was a lame joke when she said she didn't know what the VP is for... :lmao:

[C.F. Kane]

She needs to have someone diagram her sentences for her.

[CFE]

Now she's bringing in "The Founding Fathers."

Seriously, in the name of all that is sacred, where is she going with her jibberish!?

CFE

[Gilpesh]

If special needs was so "near and dear to her heart", why did she cut the budget for the special olympics in Alaska?

That was before she had the slow kid.

[kane9321]

Did she just say...."give a shout out?!!!!"

:dry:



yep:csad:

[redfirebird2008]

WTF...her answer on the vice presidency was completely irrelevant to what was asked.

[Venom'sDad]

She got rattled with foriegn policy, and could not right the ship from that point on

[CFE]

LMAO High Five to Biden for that Cheney jab...:up:

CFE

[C.F. Kane]

LMAO! So now it was a lame joke when she said she didn't know what the VP is for... :lmao:

Of course it was a lame joke. Her selection for VP and everything afterward has been nothing but a lame joke.

[Hobgoblin]

Heh, Biden smacked down Cheney. The most dangerous VP ever.

[redfirebird2008]

Well there's some straight talk from Biden about the Vice Presidency. "Legislative position." YEAH RIGHT. We all know it isn't. LOL.

[Venom'sDad]

LMAO! So now it was a lame joke when she said she didn't know what the VP is for... :lmao:

To her defense, it was a joke and was taken out of context

[kane9321]

after this debate..if anyone thinks about voting for McCain/palin deserves to get hit by truck

[hippie_hunter]

LMAO High Five to Biden for that Cheney jab...:up:

CFE

I thought that was a pretty damn good answer as well.

[CFE]

Palin's not even answering the question when her experiance comes into question...What does her marriage have to do with political experiance?

F**KING IDIOT!!!!

Oh she just called Reagan Out Right!!!

CFE

[Bunker]

Didn't Biden first bring up the kitchen table idea?

[Hobgoblin]

Now she's bringing in "The Founding Fathers."

Seriously, in the name of all that is sacred, where is she going with her jibberish!?

CFE

It makes her look prepared. Hoping people wont notice the lack of facts.

[Excel]

Jesus christ, Joe!

'Its bizarre, its made up to give him power"

Props! :up: :up:

[hippie_hunter]

What the hell, that's not the question dammit!!!

[rdh007]

She got rattled with foriegn policy, and could not right the ship from that point on

I was going to vote for her to win based on it being a draw and her being the challenger, but I'm not so certain now.

[kane9321]

reagan.....lord

[C.F. Kane]

Reagan's City on a Hill has now been referenced. This is a Republican Talking Points Greatest Hits!

[Venom'sDad]

What a "Cat-Fight" it would have been if this was a Palin/Clinton Debate

[terry78]

It's over. I am sorry to all my republican hypesters, but....ya'll know you ****ed up, right?

[Handsome Rob]

after this debate..if anyone thinks about voting for McCain/palin deserves to get hit by truck

As a McCain/Palin supporter and a cyclist who spends a lot of time sharing the road with vehicles . . . :csad:

:oldrazz:

[CFE]

Reagan's City on a Hill has now been referenced. This is a Republican Talking Points Greatest Hits!

Now all she has to do is say "May The Force Be With Us."

Oh please, oh please, oh please...

CFE

[rdh007]

I'd love it if he said, "I knew President Reagan. I served under President Reagan. You, Governor, are no President Reagan."

Then this thing would become a greatest hits album of debates.

[redfirebird2008]

Didn't Biden first bring up the kitchen table idea?

You noticed the McCain campaign stealing the Obama campaign's slogan? Yeah, it's been going on throughout the entire campaign. Now they're trying to steal the "change" slogan. LOL.

[Arc-Light]

Can I vote for Biden as Prez..................

[Überlibran]

Oh Biden chokes up.

[Handsome Rob]

I know Rob... you're losing your touch.

And I had been having such a good day, too . . .

[CFE]

It's over. I am sorry to all my republican hypesters, but....ya'll know you ****ed up, right?

:hehe: :up:

CFE

[Gotham]

This speech by Biden is emotional. :(

[Hobgoblin]

Was that wise of him to mention his wife and daughter? It might backfire on him, using their deaths for "gain."

[Excel]

Yes! Yes! ****ing 5 run homer! Perfect!

[Gilpesh]

Oh man....... Biden.... if you need a shoulder man. :csad:

[kane9321]

As a McCain/Palin supporter and a cyclist who spends a lot of time sharing the road with vehicles . . . :csad:

:oldrazz:


be carefull..ok:woot:

[hippie_hunter]

Can I vote for Biden as Prez..................
If it were a Biden/Obama ticket, I most likely vote for that ticket. But alas we're voting for Obama and McCain instead :csad:

[The Chris]

Please stop saying Maverick.

[Venom'sDad]

I was going to vote for her to win based on it being a draw and her being the challenger, but I'm not so certain now.

LOL, yeah she flamed out.... she got rattle and couldn't find her way out the wilderness. It was good for about 12 minutes.

[redfirebird2008]

"Diverse background." ROFL.

[Cmill216]

What a "Cat-Fight" it would have been if this was a Palin/Clinton Debate

It'd be a repeat of what we're watching right now.

[Excel]

Was that wise of him to mention his wife and daughter? It might backfire on him, using their deaths for "gain."

Yes it was it was completely relevant. Hes been through what a lot of people fear happening to them.

[CFE]

"Maverick"

"Darn Right"

"Alaska"

"Hockey Moms"

"Nuculer"

I think we've got our list for the Sarah Palin doll's catchphrases!!!!! :woot:

CFE

[rdh007]

Biden was in the same position as any boy wrestler who has to wrestle a girl. He couldn't win big.

[Excel]

Oh Biden chokes up.

I think he just lost his words, he didnt sound any different.

[Knives]

This has become the disaster so many expected. She has completely fallen apart to the point of incomprehension. Once they hit foreign policy, she fell apart at the seems. Once the SUBSTANCE came in, she was finished. Biden is now on complete cruise control. This is a ****ing mess.

[hippie_hunter]

Was that wise of him to mention his wife and daughter? It might backfire on him, using their deaths for "gain."
Nah, while he did stray a tad bit off topic, he did deliver a good response as opposed to Palin who went to completely off topic.

[CFE]

HAHAHAHA Now Biden's calling her out on the overuse of calling McCain a "Maverick."

Biden is a BAD ASS!!!

CFE

[kane9321]

i need to give biden a hug

oh snaps...hes tired of the maverick talk...OMG OMG

[C.F. Kane]

Was that wise of him to mention his wife and daughter? It might backfire on him, using their deaths for "gain."

He'll probably get accused of it by some, but unless he keeps returning to it over and over - a la Guliani and 9/11 - those accusations probably won't stick.

[Addendum]

Goodnight! Biden is going for the jugular about McCain being a maverick

[Gilpesh]

And I had been having such a good day, too . . .

Well, look on the bright side.... the Palin fail tonight means everyone is covered from undue attention to minor fails.

[redfirebird2008]

Was that wise of him to mention his wife and daughter? It might backfire on him, using their deaths for "gain."

No. The media will look REALLY bad if they attack him on that. And McCain will look even worse if he attacks him on that, especially given how often McCain brings up his P.O.W. experience.

[Hobgoblin]

DAMN, Biden is prepared with his research! Lovin this.

[hippie_hunter]

Man, Biden's starting to sound annoyed now :dry:

[RKO]

Biden dissected the Maverick.

[Excel]

Biden is doing INREDIBLE, bravo sir!

[The Chris]

Jeez. He's ripped the maverick statement.

[Handsome Rob]

be carefull..ok:woot:

I always am, boss . . . I always am. :up:

[Knives]

Wow. Biden just castrated the McCain/Palin ticket. She did NOT see that coming.

[Mister J]

Biden just heard the work 'maverick' mentioned one too many times. :funny:

[C.F. Kane]

"Maverick"

"Darn Right"

"Alaska"

"Hockey Moms"

"Nuculer"

I think we've got our list for the Sarah Palin doll's catchphrases!!!!! :woot:

CFE

You read that Doonesbury strip too? :woot:

[rdh007]

Biden seldom references that. He gets a pass on talking about it in his time on stage alone.

[CFE]

Man, Biden's starting to sound annoyed now :dry:

Aren't we all? At least he's stepping up and putting this debate to bed as it should be.

CFE

[redfirebird2008]

He'll probably get accused of it by some, but unless he keeps returning to it over and over - a la Guliani and 9/11 - those accusations probably won't stick.

McCain and P.O.W. He's been mentioning and using it as an excuse for every gaffe during the campaign. I don't think people want to attack Biden for mentioning something once that he never talks about.

[hippie_hunter]

Aren't we all? At least he's stepping up and putting this debate to bed as it should be.

CFE

At least he's sounding passionate about it instead of pissed off which is a good thing.

[kane9321]

wow...

[CFE]

You read that Doonesbury strip too? :woot:

mmm hmmm :oldrazz:

Seriously, a great political fiction writer couldn't have come up with a "character" like Sarah Palin.

CFE

[Gilpesh]

Biden seldom references that. He gets a pass on talking about it in his time on stage alone.

And the one time he did on stage.... he was visibly upset and almost had his voice crack.

McCain did it on Leno to defend himself having a lot of houses.

[kane9321]

again with alaska..my god in heaven

[Excel]

Omg...she just tried to say how hes a maverick after that answer...

[Lighthouse]

Edit

[Venom'sDad]

It'd be a repeat of what we're watching right now.


:wow: Oh... it would be alot worse and no one would be able to use the word sexist. :meanie:

[Schlosser85]

Palin's answer to the question about the job of a Vice President was a complete non-answer.

[Hobgoblin]

He'll probably get accused of it by some, but unless he keeps returning to it over and over - a la Guliani and 9/11 - those accusations probably won't stick.

Touche.

Lord the diverse family quote again.

[C.F. Kane]

Again with the diversity thing. Is she part Inuit or something?

[Mikelus]

The "maverick" was crushed. :hehe:

[CFE]

Palin's answer to the question about the job of a Vice President was a complete non-answer.

Her answer to pretty much every question has been a non-answer, IMO.

CFE

[kane9321]

wtf is wrong with her

[Überlibran]

mmm hmmm :oldrazz:

Seriously, a great political fiction writer couldn't have come up with a "character" like Sarah Palin.

CFE But you know who might have? John Waters. I swear she seems like a character right out of 'Serial Mom' or something.

[hippie_hunter]

She likes to answer the tough questions :lmao:

[hippie_hunter]

She likes to answer the tough questions :lmao:

[Excel]

Omg..."I like to answer these tough question"

:dry:

[kane9321]

wtf is wrong with her

MAINSTREAM MEDIA...THATS IT THATS IT I'M GONNA RIP MY HAIR OUT

[Watson]

I think McCain should just ask for a mulligan on nominating a new VP.

[Excel]

She is using stump lines.

Is this is a joke?

[C.F. Kane]

wtf is wrong with her

MAINSTREAM MEDIA...THATS IT THATS IT I'M GONNA RIP MY HAIR OUT

I had the exact same impulse!

[CFE]

Palin's Closing = McCain Propaganda.
Biden's Closing = Being courtious while obviously siding with Obama.

No contest, Biden FTW!!!

CFE

[Venom'sDad]

She is wayyyy out of her league. That's not always a bad thing, but in this case.... LOL.

I will just leave it at that.

[Hobgoblin]

wtf is wrong with her

MAINSTREAM MEDIA...THATS IT THATS IT I'M GONNA RIP MY HAIR OUT

I know. :whatever: Sure, blame the media for your image. Sounds like McCain saying life isnt fair. Whiners.

[Handsome Rob]

Good closing statements by both.

[kane9321]

Why she she talking so loud...shut up

[BMM]

Biden won, easily.

[redfirebird2008]

McCain could learn from Sarah on treating his opponent with respect.

[hippie_hunter]

I think it's pretty damn obvious that Biden won this debate. But on the plus side for Palin at least she wasn't a complete retard and fool against the best debater of the Democratic primaries.

I don't think that this will change anything.

[Knives]

Thsi isnt even a question. This was a blowout. She started off coherent, not answering anything but acting all cutesy, but once the SUBSTANCE started, she completely fell apart into oblivion,a nd Biden destroyed her after that. She could not recover or even seem coherent. It was stunning. Biden won this thing by a mile.

[redfirebird2008]

I think it's pretty damn obvious that Biden won this debate. But on the plus side for Palin at least she wasn't a complete retard and fool against the best debater of the Democratic primaries.

That's because the McCain campaign would not agree to a "back and forth" style of debate. It was very structured.

[CFE]

McCain could learn from Sarah on treating his opponent with respect.

Agreed. At least she had that going for her...that's not saying much though.

CFE

[Hobgoblin]

Holy crap, 26 votes, 100% saying Biden won!

Totally true. He had facts and she had the same old quotes over and over. John McCain is great, I come from Alaska.

I gotta say Palin didnt sound like an idiot, but she didnt sound as informed. Biden wins for substance and style over purely style.

[Venom'sDad]

Time for the "Spin". Let's spin.

[Gilpesh]

I think it's pretty damn obvious that Biden won this debate. But on the plus side for Palin at least she wasn't a complete retard and fool against the best debater of the Democratic primaries.

Oh man... David Gregory sucks. "No clear winner"? Riiiiiiiiight.

[kane9321]

biden ....should stick her head on a pike now

[ShadowBoxing]

Sarah did well, considering she didn't fall apart, but it's pretty clear Biden won and won handily.

[Excel]

I like seeing them together on the stage.

[redfirebird2008]

Time for the "Spin". Let's spin.

The media will spin it as much as possible for their favorite: a close election. They'll say either Palin won or it was a tie. McCain is down and they want to keep the election from becoming a blowout.

[Lighthouse]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/Lighthouse27/top_gun_maverick_tom_cruise_suited.jpghttp://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/Lighthouse27/mccain.jpg
I can see how she'd be confused.

[C.F. Kane]

So far on the poll it's unanimously for Biden.

Not that I'm surprised or anything.

[Fading]

I tried hard to be a blank slate, and judge them on their performance rather than any pre conceptions. My thoughts -

Biden - Came off as Presidential. I actually felt comfortable with the thought of him taking charge or being in an important position. He felt human, particularly when he almost broke down talking about his family's deaths.

Palin - Not 100% horrible, but I got a vibe at times that she was answering like it was a "How would you change the world" type question asked to a beauty pagent contestant. Her voice as always annoyed me...and made me semi-zone out. She also had trouble staying on topic, especially with the repeated ignoring of questions and going right back to energy bill talks.

Obama and McCain - The same, and possibly a little worse about both. Both VP candidates seemed more focused on putting down the top of the ticket rather than eachother. McCain got slammed a little more harshly, but Biden could have defended Obama a little bit better as well.

Overall, win for Biden easily.

[Knives]

The media is going to try to spint his as a tie all they can. That's ********. Biden swallowed her whole, toward the end she was complately gone. The media can spin it all they want, and prove thier uselesness in the process.

[sasquatchs]

No substance from Palin, and she went down hill into babble in the 2nd act, but she probably stabilised her reputation, such as it is. Palin brought it back to McCain more than Biden took it to Obama, but Biden did an a great job of knocking McCain down

[ShadowBoxing]

BTW, Sarah, General McKellen had a successful career after the Civil War, going on to command in Afghanistan definitely was NOT one of his accomplishments.

[Excel]

Sarah did well, considering she didn't fall apart, but it's pretty clear Biden won and won handily.

yup.

[Gilpesh]

Palin "sensational" according to Pat Buchanan.

We didn't see that coming...

[Lighthouse]

I'm sure the democrat and republican congressmen will give very unbiased judgments on the debate.

[Poetic Chaos]

She did her job by not looking like an idiot so I'll call it a draw.

[Comicfilmer]

Who the **** voted that the debate was a tie? Did you watch it on "mute?"

EDIT: So not looking like an idot (which is up for argument) means that she did just as well in this debate? What in the world...?

[Knives]

Palin "sensational" according to Pat Buchanan.

We didn't see that coming...

Oh he is SO full of ****. At least TRY not to lie to blatantly.

[Excel]

fox says she won

[redfirebird2008]

She did her job by not looking like an idiot so I'll call it a draw.

What about the actual issues? That's what a debate is about so no, it was definitely not a draw. She constantly avoided answering the questions and never showed actual knowledge on the subjects being discussed. It was always a memorized line. Blank stare on her face.

[Spider-Fan]

Biden won easy. I'm surprised only 1 person is trying to spin it otherwise in the poll thus far.

[BMM]

Peggy Noonan is full of crap.

[gap5ewl]

She definatly exceeded expectations, but Biden was much more organized and detailed and won the debate. AND he was restrained and in no way condescending which was very good. Palin never really got her talking points evened out but she did have a few shining moments. However, she scared me when she said we need to expand the VP'a powers...wow.:wow:

[Addendum]

lking about his family's deaths.

Palin - not 100% horrible, but i got a vibe at times that she was answering like it was a "how would you change the world" type question asked to a beauty pagent contestant.

waliarhhlii

[C.F. Kane]

fox says she won

Another non-surprise tonight

[Raiden]

I watched Cooper 360 and their circle of commentators, and it's not surprising that those conservatives said that they think Palin won. Their explaination? That she's an "outsider" who spoke like "middle America". Of course, none of them mentioned substance, which she lacks during the debate.

[jaguarr]

Biden crushed her fair and square, no snideness, condescension or sexim at all from him. He played it straight and just flat out crushed her with his knowledge. She came off sounding like the uninformed soccer mom that she is, tried to ride stump speech talking points in a debate and avoided answering questions by answering questions completely unrelated to the topic at hand. This is a serious embarrassment to the McCain Campaign. She did well for the first 20-30 minutes or so but fell apart completely during the foreign policy discussion and never recovered.

jag

[Addendum]

fox says she won

reeeeeaaly big surprise there

[Gilpesh]

Stopped the damage?

The debate was a nothing burger?

Spppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiin

[ElToro]

Sirously,why dose palin even try.
She is not going to win.

[rdh007]

What about the actual issues? That's what a debate is about so no, it was definitely not a draw. She constantly avoided answering the questions and never showed actual knowledge on the subjects being discussed. It was always a memorized line. Blank stare on her face.

For the first 15 minutes, I was fully prepared to call it a draw and vote for her based on giving the edge to the challenger. The last half of the debate was so bad that I couldn't do that.

[C.F. Kane]

She definately exceeded expectations, but Biden was much more organized and detailed and won the debate. AND he was restrained and in no way condescending which was very good. Palin never really got her talking points evened out but she did have a few shining moments. However, she scared me when she said we need to expand the VP'a powers...wow.:wow:

She didn't drool, stammer and then strip down to a bikini. That's it.

[Hobgoblin]

fox says she won

As has been said, thats shocking.:dry:

[Raiden]

Biden crushed her fair and square, no snideness, condescension or sexim at all from him. He played it straight and just flat out crushed her with his knowledge. She came off sounding like the uninformed soccer mom that she is, tried to ride stump speech talking points in a debate and avoided answering questions by answering questions completely unrelated to the topic at hand. This is a serious embarrassment to the McCain Campaign. She did well for the first 20-30 minutes or so but fell apart completely during the foreign policy discussion and never recovered.

jag

Of course, none of the people who claimed Palin won would address the fact that she had avoid responding to many questions thrown her way. I guess their criteria for her winning was just to smile to the camera and not freeze like she did during the Couric interviews. Their bar for veep qualification is set really low for her.

[bunk]

I half expected Palin to throw a smoke bomb at her feet and disappear until election night. She won't be doing anymore interviews if she can help it.

[Comicfilmer]

Anybody that was impressed by Sarah Palin on anything other than her looks should be considered clinically retarded. Her folksy "gosh darn" and "dogonnit" moments, her shout-outs to third graders, and her consistent dodging of any straight answer in the entire debate made her come off like a goofy high school student trying to BS her way through a debate class. And this is a woman who some people want to be a 72-year-old heartbeat away from being the most powerful individual in the world!?

Seriously? This is what it's come down to? America, America...an earthquake is brewing - it is your founding countrymen turning over in their graves.

[Ziggyman]

Say it isn't so Joe...I think you won this debate on the opinion of my own!

[jaguarr]

The whole idea of "Well, she didn't do as badly as we expected her to so we'll call it a draw" is such bull****. She flaunted her lack of knowledge and sophomoric approach to addressing issues in front of the entire country tonight. People should be frightened as hell of her, not congratulating her for not being quite as bad as she could have been even though she still got creamed and calling that a success. WTF? :huh:

jag

[bunk]

I thought Biden's best part was when he went off on how much of a maverick he thinks McCain is. It worked out well for him that it happened close to the end.

[Dark Donnie]

For these media outlets to say that "she won" or "she did what she was suppose to do" is ridiculous. She answered nothing, and continuously dodged questions.

[Hobgoblin]

I watched Cooper 360 and their circle of commentators, and it's not surprising that those conservatives said that they think Palin won. Their explaination? That she's an "outsider" who spoke like "middle America". Of course, none of them mentioned substance, which she lacks during the debate.

I wonder how right they are. She did seem down to earth,and many people like that. I just prefer my second in command to be...informed.

[Cmill216]

The amount of spin I'm hearing right now is making my heart hurt. :csad: