Reintroducing Superman: An Open Discussion

[daywalker2007]

Make Superman a bit cooler.

I'd love to see him just land in the Middle-east right in front of a Israeli tank aiming for some Palestinian terrorists. He'd just stop it with his feet and tramp on it, with it crumbling under his feet as he walks over it, just ripping of the top. Then he'd swiftly pacify the Palestinians and ask them to play nice and quit whining.

Make him piss of some politicians. Would be nice to see him deal with bigger things then petty theft or Luthors crazy schemes.

"Everybody" would hate him for interfering with silly human fighting and Obama would tell him to stop making so many changes, while Putin would try to drop an A-bomb on his head. Superman would firmly, but "nicely", tell them to piss of and show them that next time they start a war putting civilians in the middle then he'd be there to stop them and he would not care if it's a capitalist or a commie he needs to get in the way for.

Superman will not let politics get in the way for him helping the helpless. If a cat is stuck in a tree then you better not get in his way if he intends to save the poor little pussycat.

Make him go global. :)

what a load of bollocks, nobody wants to see a movie about superman's thoughts on the world's wars and have the pathetic cliche of "palestinian" terrorists. Considering the Israeli's are just as bad at "Terrorism", your point is invalid.

also it is more likely they should have something about "domestic" terrorists like Lex luthor.

no need to bring war propoganda into a superman movie, unless they hire Oliver stone. Oliver Stone would magically put the Vietnam war in the movie as a subtext to the story. how great that would be.
:whatever:

[[A]]

..never mind the bollocks

[Dark Knight]

if this 200 milion budget movie would have more IM,TF type jokes and action and if it wouldnt make more money then we could have talked about story.

i still can not belive that people are again mentioning story. after movies like TF,IM,IJ people think that story is important for milions? come on.



Exactly....

[8wid]

I cannot agree with Marsden. Spider-Man is not a "kick-ass, dark character" but he did much better than Superman did. The whole virtuous nature of Superman wasn't nowhere even present in SR, in some instances, it was even directly the reverse.

[Mostpowerful]

if this 200 milion budget movie would have more IM,TF type jokes and action and if it wouldnt make more money then we could have talked about story.

i still can not belive that people are again mentioning story. after movies like TF,IM,IJ people think that story is important for milions? come on.

Agreed.

Audiences nowdays just want escapism and entertainment; they don't pick movies apart like fanboy do.


But it seems that WB want to indeed go 'DARK' with the next Supes movie; they are seriously considering the J.J. Abrams script now, according to my source....SINO. :down:down :cmad:

YUP, they don't give a damn about Superman's integrity or about the story. They just care about making lots and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$. Don't fool yourselves.

[NeoRanger]

They are considering a seven-year-old, overly dated script for the new movie? Somehow, I doubt it.

[The Guard]

YUP, they don't give a damn about Superman's integrity or about the story. They just care about making lots and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$. Don't fool yourselves.

JJ Abrams later drafts were fairly faithful to the character.

[Dark Knight]

Agreed.

Audiences nowdays just want escapism and entertainment; they don't pick movies apart like fanboy do.


But it seems that WB want to indeed go 'DARK' with the next Supes movie; they are seriously considering the J.J. Abrams script now, according to my source....SINO. :down:down :cmad:

YUP, they don't give a damn about Superman's integrity or about the story. They just care about making lots and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$. Don't fool yourselves.



Actually, JJ Abrams script was not a bad script at all IMO. That story would definitely work for a "reintroduction". The civil war on Krypton was a very interesting take. The only problem I had back then was with McG or Ratner being the director. Use JJ Abrams story and heck I would be happy with him as the director as well. There just needed to be some tweaks and polishing up of Abrams script really.

If not JJ, then WB's should get Snyder or Ridley Scott to direct JJ's story. I would have great confidence with a team like that.

[FilmNerdJamie]

But it seems that WB want to indeed go 'DARK' with the next Supes movie; they are seriously considering the J.J. Abrams script now, according to my source....SINO.

There's no way any major studio would go back and produce a script that expensive which has been online for years for folks to read. That's crap.

[Dark Knight]

JJ Abrams later drafts were fairly faithful to the character.



They were....and with those later drafts, that story would actually be a solid reintroduction type of story that would provide great visuals and action. WB's just needed to get a better director for that story than McG/Ratner IMO.

[Dark Knight]

There's no way any major studio would go back and produce a script that expensive which has been online for years for folks to read. That's crap.



Perhaps they can revisit and re write that particular story and add different elements to it? The main problems I had with the original FLYBY draft was with the way Luthor was portrayed as some government agent. He should be the head of LexCorp. Plus hearing about Jor El commiting suicide in jail?? No..no...and Clark announcing to the world he is Superman?? The whole Superman dying and meeting Jor El in Kryptonian heaven?? Ahh....no...

They need to add Braniac to that story and have him be the catalyst and cause for the civil war within Krypton and the eventual destruction. Have Jor El figure out that Braniac is the cause of the civil war and what he plans to do to Krypton.

[The Guard]

I don't know that JJ's SUPERMAN would cost as much to make now as it was going to, then. We'd have to wait and see.

Other major scripts have leaked (Several version of of WATCHMEN, BATMAN BEGINS and TRANSFORMERS, for instance), and studios still make movies. I'm pretty sure most people haven't read the later drafts. WB may not go with that script in it's current form, but I can definitely see them taking major elements of it.

[Dark Knight]

I don't know that JJ's SUPERMAN would cost as much to make now as it was going to, then. We'd have to wait and see.

Other major scripts have leaked (Several version of of WATCHMEN, BATMAN BEGINS and TRANSFORMERS, for instance), and studios still make movies. I'm pretty sure most people haven't read the later drafts. WB may not go with that script in it's current form, but I can definitely see them taking major elements of it.



Yeah...mix in some elements of that script...with elements from Waids Birthright and perhaps Superman For All Seasons, with Johns current Braniac arc in Action Comics and WB's and us fans may have a winner.

[Showtime]

I don't know that JJ's SUPERMAN would cost as much to make now as it was going to, then. We'd have to wait and see.

Other major scripts have leaked (Several version of of WATCHMEN, BATMAN BEGINS and TRANSFORMERS, for instance), and studios still make movies. I'm pretty sure most people haven't read the later drafts. WB may not go with that script in it's current form, but I can definitely see them taking major elements of it.

Isn't that a different story though? Those films were underway and already moving into production when leaked. This is a script that was leaked years ago. I'm not seeing the comparision.

[DavidTyler]

Now my curiousity is peaked as to that JJ Abrams script.

Not that I want to see Krypton in the midst of a Civil War.. but it would be interesting.

Since the script is out of date, is there any reason why it couldn't be found on the web?

[NeoRanger]

It's been on the web for a while now, along with pretty much every other Superman script, Returns notwithstanding. Simplyscripts.com is where I go to read. Don't know if anyone has a better source.

[The Guard]

Isn't that a different story though? Those films were underway and already moving into production when leaked. This is a script that was leaked years ago. I'm not seeing the comparision.

WATCHMEN was leaked years ago as well, long before the current project, or even the previous project that died and then was reborn for the umpteenth time, began production. Your point seemed to be that no movie studio would make a movie if people knew what was in said expensive movie. What does the timeframe of the leak really have to do with it?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

James Marsden Explains Why ‘Superman Returns’ Didn’t Fly (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/22/james-marsden-explains-why-superman-returns-didnt-fly/#comments)He's not making any sense. The problem with Superman Returns was that it was too dark and boring as hell.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think he is wrong and right. Wrong because the average comic book reader loves a Superman who is not dark but right in the terms that the General Public wants to see a darker Superman who kicks ass and takes names later. See I think the General Public wouldn't really want to see the Superman we see in Action Comics and all but they would want to see a Superman that is more darker and more flawed in his morals. Which I hope I am wrong about but that is how I think the public would like to see Superman now and its sad really.

Agreed, I think Superman, as the character we know and love, just isnt interesting to the younger audience of today. I may be wrong, but it seems that way.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That true. I just felt SR at least is closer to Superman in the comics than SV, despite some problem with SR.

SR was 100 times closer to the comics than SV.

[Showtime]

WATCHMEN was leaked years ago as well, long before the current project, or even the previous project that died and then was reborn for the umpteenth time, began production. Your point seemed to be that no movie studio would make a movie if people knew what was in said expensive movie. What does the timeframe of the leak really have to do with it?

That wasn't my point? That was FilmNerdJamie's point...

The time period has a lot to do with it. If they were already moving forward with Batman Begins and Transformers when the leak happened, then there is nothing they can do about it. Not as many people got their hands off of it. They're not going to do a direct translation on screen of the Abrams script. There would be many changes. Wasn't Superman introduced with a plane sequence? I doubt we'll be seeing that one again...

[Lighthouse]

Am I one of the few that thinks a Superman being closer to the comics is a bad thing?

[Showtime]

I think there needs to be a balance.

[Crook]

Am I one of the few that thinks a Superman being closer to the comics is a bad thing?
....what? :huh:

[Lighthouse]

....what? :huh:

I think Superman comics have been pretty damn crappy the last 10 years, maybe longer. Except for certain ideas like Luthor as a business man, I don't really care to see any kind of influence from comics. The director can pretty much do what he wants, as long as its true to the spirit of Superman, has a lot of action, and most of all, its fun.

[bunk]

I think Superman comics have been pretty damn crappy the last 10 years, maybe longer. Except for certain ideas like Luthor as a business man, I don't really care to see any kind of influence from comics. The director can pretty much do what he wants, as long as its true to the spirit of Superman, has a lot of action, and most of all, its fun.

No offense, but your mentality frightens the hell out of me.

[Lighthouse]

No offense, but your mentality frightens the hell out of me.

Why?

[nocomics]

No offense, but your mentality frightens the hell out of me.
heh, Why does it have to follow any story arc from comics? Is'nt the director/writers allowed to create their own stories and ideas of what superman or anyother character can be...The main thing is superman himself is intact,and the color of his suit or his enemies does'nt matter...
Someone mentioned SR was too dark and too boring,lol...You did hear they wanted to make Superman a darker movie,so I guess the next one might be too much for ya,lol...I just thought SR was too boring from a plot perspective..

[bunk]

Why?

Mostly because I do not have nearly the faith required in even the best creative team to fully re-imagine the concept of Superman. That's what it sounds like you're advocating; a re-imagination. If I'm wrong, than I apologize. My favorite superhero movies all happen to borrow heavily from the comics. Spider-Man, TDK, and Iron Man. The comics themselves clearly make for excellent movies when adapted well. I just immediately imagine all of the horrible things that could be done to the character if some hot shot director/writers came along and was given carte blanche to do whatever he or she feels at the time. We've seen Catwoman. We've seen Burton's zombie Superman... heard about Peters' epic polar bear fight with Superman...and these people were actually making at least a small attempt at sticking to the comics. :wow: Why bother making a Superman movie if it's making no effort to bring the comics to life? Just make Hitchcock 2, and maybe it won't suck as bad as the first.

[Lighthouse]

Mostly because I do not have nearly the faith required in even the best creative team to fully re-imagine the concept of Superman. That's what it sounds like you're advocating; a re-imagination. If I'm wrong, than I apologize. My favorite superhero movies all happen to borrow heavily from the comics. Spider-Man, TDK, and Iron Man. The comics themselves clearly make for excellent movies when adapted well. I just immediately imagine all of the horrible things that could be done to the character if some hot shot director/writers came along and was given carte blanche to do whatever he or she feels at the time. We've seen Catwoman. We've seen Burton's zombie Superman... heard about Peters' epic polar bear fight with Superman...and these people were actually making at least a small attempt at sticking to the comics. :wow: Why bother making a Superman movie if it's making no effort to bring the comics to life? Just make Hitchcock 2, and maybe it won't suck as bad as the first.

A few points. The heroes you mentioned have had some really amazing runs over the years, all of them I think have had better ones than Superman. So yes, those ones should have been based on the comics because the stories they were based on were so amazing. Frankly, Superman has not really had any amazing long running stories in the comics beyond his origin. Sure, we've had some great Alan Moore stories, For All Seasons, and Birthright, but beyond that I haven't seen much else that was really great.

Another thing is that my problems with SR were not because of their closeness with the comics. I didn't hate the SR suit because it wasn't close to the comics, I hated it because it looked incredibly awkward. I didn't hate the kid because he wasn't in the comics, I hated him because he was a plot device and had no personality. I didn't hate Lex Luthor because he wasn't like the Luthor in the comics, I hated him because he was goofy, over-the-top, and a lame ripoff of Hackmans.

I don't mind changes as long as they keep the spirit of Superman, and create an interesting story.

I could be wrong about Superman comic book stories. If someone can name me a Superman story that is equal to Stan Lees run on Spider-Man, Demon In A Bottle for Iron Man, and the too many to name stories for Batman, please let me know. The only one that comes to my mind that comes close is Action #775, which basically reaffirms Superman's importance for the modern age. A variation on that theme for a movie could be amazing.

[SuperDaniel]

An origin movie should have elements of Superman for all seasons, the animated series, Birthright and the man of steel.

That's what i would want to see.

I just want to see Luthor with Lexcorp in the movies. That's a must, IMO.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Not sure if this is worthy of a new thread or already been posted, but G4TV had a discussion about the Superman Reboot news with Cinematic Happenings Under Development:

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/videos/28234/Warner_Relaunching_DC_Comics_Franchises.html

[bunk]

Uh yeah, that interview is a waste of time. The guy from CHUD he's talking to knows absolutely nothing.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't like Devin but I totally agreed with him.

[bunk]

They could've interviewed anyone of the regulars from these boards and gotten a more interesting 4 minutes. Why not mention Cavill as a fan favorite? Instead they spend half the time *****ing about SR.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Eh, I would spend half the time b**ching about SR too as I was surpremely disappointed. Fair or Unfair, crazy or no alot of people keep talking about their dislike for SR because they felt that it was extremely disappointing.

[I Am The Knight]

Eh, I would spend half the time b**ching about SR too as I was surpremely disappointed. Fair or Unfair, crazy or no alot of people keep talking about their dislike for SR because they felt that it was extremely disappointing.

It's time to let go, fraulein :o

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's time to let go, fraulein :oI'm trying.

[bunk]

It's just annoying how they're always like 6 months behind the rest of us lol.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Not sure if this is worthy of a new thread or already been posted, but G4TV had a discussion about the Superman Reboot news with Cinematic Happenings Under Development:

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/videos/28234/Warner_Relaunching_DC_Comics_Franchises.html

Showtime already covered that awhile back, but thanks anyway.

I'm a big CHUD fan - post on their forum(s) daily. Like it or lump it, Devin knows what he's talking about. Plus, the dude's funny as Hell and well-spoken. People kinda prefer to have those types on the tube - thus why he's on G4 every so often.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Showtime already covered that awhile back, but thanks anyway.

I'm a big CHUD fan - post on their forum(s) daily. Like it or lump it, Devin knows what he's talking about. Plus, the dude's funny as Hell and well-spoken. People kinda prefer to have those types on the tube - thus why he's on G4 every so often.I read the Chud boards and have seen you on them.:cwink: Devin's articles can be funny sometimes but most other times, eh I can't stand him. He's sooo cynical and I just don't dig people like that. They piss me off as a matter of fact.

I don't dislike Chud, as I visit it almost everyday, but often it's just a step away from being Aint it Cool sometimes and I don't like that.

[FilmNerdJamie]

but often it's just a step away from being Aint it Cool sometimes and I don't like that.

I wouldn't go that far personally.

http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2378644#post2378644

The thread of the week imo.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I wouldn't go that far personally.

http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2378644#post2378644

The thread of the week imo.It's quite funny.:hehe:

[Nightwing1977]

Am I one of the few that thinks a Superman being closer to the comics is a bad thing?

Really? But I thought many fans prefer a comic book movies to be as close as to the comics. I know several who dislike SR think beside the terrible story was that it wasn't a lot like the comics. Including the costume. ;)

It's time to let go, fraulein :o

Ummm.....what a fraulein? Some kind of French pastry? :oldrazz:

[Lighthouse]

Really? But I thought many fans prefer a comic book movies to be as close as to the comics. I know several who dislike SR think beside the terrible story was that it wasn't a lot like the comics. Including the costume. ;)

I dislike SR for a host of different reasons, but none of them are because they weren't close to the comics.

[NeoRanger]

I think Superman comics have been pretty damn crappy the last 10 years, maybe longer. Except for certain ideas like Luthor as a business man, I don't really care to see any kind of influence from comics. The director can pretty much do what he wants, as long as its true to the spirit of Superman, has a lot of action, and most of all, its fun.

Even if that is/were true, they can approach the comic books conceptually, but write a completely new, "good" story.

I think it's a fair compromise.

[Lighthouse]

Not really news per se, but we might hear something from Routh.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080925/NEWS/80925022


Demi, Ashton, Superman head to Iowa for Obama

JASON CLAYWORTH • September 25, 2008

Three Hollywood stars are coming to Iowa Friday and Saturday to campaign for Barack Obama.

The lineup: Demi Moore and her hubby and Iowa native Ashton Kutcher. "Superman Returns" actor Brandon Routh, also an Iowa native, is scheduled, too.

The stars are part of a “Vote Early for Change” college tour.

The tour is, in part, to attract more young voters to take part in this year’s election, campaign officials said.

On Friday, Routh will hold rallies at Simpson College, Drake University and Coe College. He will also meet with Hawkeyes for Obama, attend the University of Iowa Homecoming Parade and attend a debate watch party in Iowa City.

On Saturday, Routh will hold rallies at Mount Mercy College and St. Ambrose University, kick off a canvass with high school students in Davenport and hold a call with students in Knoxville. Also on Saturday, Kutcher and Moore will hold rallies at Cornell College, Grinnell College, Iowa State University and University of Northern Iowa.

Actor Ashton Kutcher was born in Cedar Rapids. He grew up in Cedar Rapids and Tiffin and attended the University of Iowa. Kutcher starred in the television series, “That ‘70s Show” and has appeared in several movies.

Kutcher is married to actress Demi Moore. Moore is a Golden Globe and Emmy nominated actress and producer who has been starring in films since the 1980s.

Routh was born in Des Moines and grew up in Norwalk. He attended the University of Iowa. He has appeared in numerous television shows and movies.

Its taking place over the next few days. I'm sure Superman is going to come up at some point. I live in Iowa so maybe I'll hear something on the local news.

[dark_b]

what do you expect from him? that he will confirm that its a reboot ?

[Lighthouse]

what do you expect from him? that he will confirm that its a reboot ?

Honestly, I don't really expect anything, but if he does comment, it would be his first comment since Robinov announced the intention to reboot. I'd kind of like to know how he interprets that statement, and what it means for him.

[dark_b]

Honestly, I don't really expect anything, but if he does comment, it would be his first comment since Robinov announced the intention to reboot. I'd kind of like to know how he interprets that statement, and what it means for him.if he is smart he will give a typical hollywood comment.
and for gods sae Brandon dont even try to tell us your opinion why the movie didnt make enough money because its obvious. and its obvious that you can nto say that to the public loud.i think you were a great superman. but not in the right superman story.

[Showtime]

ScreenRant

With the news last month that Warner Brothers planned on rebooting the Superman film franchise, I thought it would be a good time to give an overall status report on everyone’s favorite big blue boy-scout. And let you folks know what’s going on…as of now, at least.

First things first, no director or screenwriter(s) have been hired nor are any in negotiations at this time. Warner Brothers is simply looking at a few candidates as potential “feelers.” Nothing more, nothing less. If there’s anything the studio learned from Superman Returns, it’s that they’re not going to hand over another blank-check to a “big name” director. So more likely than not, the eventual director will be someone who works well with the material, sees eye-to-eye with the approach they’re taking and (most importantly) can be easily controlled by the studio. An example of this would be when Peter Jackson was first hired for The Lord of the Rings trilogy, Bryan Singer for X-Men, Sam Raimi for Spider-Man, etc. You get the idea.

Regarding the big question of casting before anyone asks, the answer is no: Tom Welling will not be Superman. For some of you, take a moment, and let whatever feelings you have about that out of your system. The studio isn’t going to spend $150-$200 million (if not more) to produce Smallville: The Movie. Like it or lump it, that’s exactly what it’d be if they went with Welling. Additionally, the failure of X-Files: I Want to Believe this past summer further proved that cult following doesn’t equal mainstream audience. So one can’t argue that Welling would bring in “a big audience” during the opening weekend. I don’t care if you love or hate the idea of him as Superman on the silver screen. He’s not in the running. Sorry, but it ain’t gonna happen. Get over it. Whoever becomes the next Superman/Clark Kent will be an unknown for obvious reasons. For the studio, it’s easy to nab one down to a multi-picture deal (i.e. cheap) and for the filmmakers there won’t be any “baggage” coming into the project with said actor.

Now what about Wanted and Kick-Ass creator Mark Millar who’ll tell anyone with a set of ears (and more importantly, a camera) that he wants the writing gig? Well, his claims about “being a Marvel guy” as the reason Warner Bros. rejected his pitch last year are 100% Grade-A B.S. Plain and simple, they hated it. ut what of his recent claims of writing an epic Superman trilogy that’s a second away from being greenlit with his phantom “American action director” at the helm? Uh, that would be: no. don’t doubt his love for Kal-El, and maybe he’s met with a director in the past. But if he was really in the running, he wouldn’t be talking out loud to the press before being heard (again) by the studio.

Furthermore, he’s had a well-documented history of flat-out fabricating news-items just to get himself press (i.e. his claim of “knowing” Jim Caviezel would play Superman in Returns and Eminem “begging” to star in Wanted - both turned out to be bogus rumors that he started!) Therefore… you can’t honestly take him at his word on the matter - especially since there’s been no one to come out and back-up his claims. And Millar wasn’t the only comic-book writer the studio heard pitches from. The likes of Grant Morrison, Mark Waid and Geoff Johns also came in with takes on how to properly revive the franchise. And like Millar, they were shot down. So it’s safe to say they’ll begin hearing from screenwriters again.

Quite frankly, I doubt we see Krypton’s last son return to the silver screen for… awhile. They’re currently projecting a 2011 release. The thing is though, Warner Brothers appears to be damn-near booked with arguably the three biggest blockbuster tent-poles for that year: Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows - Part II, Batman III and The Hobbit. They just plain don’t “need” Superman right now. Although it’s definitely a priority to get the Man of Steel back on track. But they can honestly afford to take their sweet time (which they are!). That, and after the reception of Superman Returns, they want to make damned sure this revival film will be something that everyone (i.e. WB, DC, Legendary Pictures, etc.) is 100% behind.

But rest assured, Superman will return to the silver screen…eventually!

[batman44]

Good read. Thanks Showtime:up:

[Super Kal]

very good read :up:

[Crook]

Nothing new there, but yeah, good summary. It's a shame we're a long way from another Supes film. I feel like the Golden Age for comic book films is right at this very moment, and 2012 (at the earliest) seems like too little, too late.

[Lighthouse]

4 more years of casting wars.......*head explodes*

[Jochimus]

And Millar wasn’t the only comic-book writer the studio heard pitches from. The likes of Grant Morrison, Mark Waid and Geoff Johns also came in with takes on how to properly revive the franchise. And like Millar, they were shot down. So it’s safe to say they’ll begin hearing from screenwriters again.

Gee, what was that we read about two months back in Variety and the Hollywood Reporter? Something about WB sitting down with DC to re-assess the studio's approach to its comic-book franchises?

Yeah, that's really panning out well, isn't it? :whatever:

[Mostpowerful]

Not really news per se, but we might hear something from Routh.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080925/NEWS/80925022



Its taking place over the next few days. I'm sure Superman is going to come up at some point. I live in Iowa so maybe I'll hear something on the local news.

Iowa's Superman Campaigns For Obama

http://www.kcci.com/entertainment/17555766/detail.html# (http://www.kcci.com/entertainment/17555766/detail.html#)




http://screenrant.com/superman-sequel-reboot-status-report-filmnerdjamie-3794/

Meh, more rumors.

[Spade]

For how long was the reboot just another rumor? For how long was Justice League predicted to be dead before they made it official? Don't cast doubt just because it's not confirmed by 101 sources.

[dark_b]

i understand that they want to take time.
but from 2002 when x-men was realesed until now. this is 8 years. this is hte time when comicbook movies were realesed every year. the the one superhero that started it all was realesed in 2006 and it was not good enough for the studio. so now a superman fan needs to wait until 2012? why? because WB had to spend 10 milions on a contract and 200 milions on a movie that had zero action.

it sucks to be a superman fan. i liked SR very much 2 years ago. but now it really sucks to be superman fan IMO. they dont even want to give me a flying tom welling in smallville.!!!

[dark_b]

http://screenrant.com/superman-sequel-reboot-status-report-filmnerdjamie-3794/

tons information from you showtime. like he reads SHH boards for 2 months and then he writtes this.

[Showtime]

Meh, more rumors.

Hmmm. What would you call "WB circling the JJ Abrams script"?

tons information from you showtime. like he reads SHH boards for 2 months and then he writtes this.

From me? You think so?

[Antonello Blueberry]

http://screenrant.com/superman-sequel-reboot-status-report-filmnerdjamie-3794/
Did you see who's the writer of the article?

[Showtime]

I know who the writer is.

[BATZARRO WWD]

Gee, what was that we read about two months back in Variety and the Hollywood Reporter? Something about WB sitting down with DC to re-assess the studio's approach to its comic-book franchises?

Yeah, that's really panning out well, isn't it? :whatever:

Heh. You said "assess"!

[I Am The Knight]

2012, so far away...I really need a new Superman movie.

[Showtime]

We've waited longer, if it is indeed 2012, not that far away.

[I Am The Knight]

I hate waiting :cmad:

[dark_b]

We've waited longer, if it is indeed 2012, not that far away.if its the ultimate superman movie its not long. but if we wait until 2012 for a TIH type of reboot that will bring nothing more to the table then just a fight and the same BO .....then its very long.

[Dark Knight]

Did you see who's the writer of the article?



This is sad news and I had a feeling this would happen if they decided to reboot instead of doing a sequel to SR. Pretty pathetic that WB's would wait until 2012 to release another Superman film. Ridiculous if you ask me actually!

So Show, prepare to move this Superman forum to DC Comics Film section and get ready to add a Green Lantern movie forum.

[Dark Knight]

2012, so far away...I really need a new Superman movie.



Yup! I expect this Superman forum to slooooooow way down now....:sleepy:

[bgshw44]

this is horrible horrible news. it would be more bearable if in the meantime we get the full cut of SR on dvd

[Showtime]

if its the ultimate superman movie its not long. but if we wait until 2012 for a TIH type of reboot that will bring nothing more to the table then just a fight and the same BO .....then its very long.

This is sad news and I had a feeling this would happen if they decided to reboot instead of doing a sequel to SR. Pretty pathetic that WB's would wait until 2012 to release another Superman film. Ridiculous if you ask me actually!

So Show, prepare to move this Superman forum to DC Comics Film section and get ready to add a Green Lantern movie forum.

Yup! I expect this Superman forum to slooooooow way down now....:sleepy:

this is horrible horrible news. it would be more bearable if in the meantime we get the full cut of SR on dvd

As I said above and the day the Robinov news came out, WB is "targeting 2011". That is what they are/were hoping for. If you look at the schedule, doesn't seem to be a lot of room for Superman in 2011, but that could change. Also if they are thinking winter then 2010 has a slim chance and 2011 is still a possibility. "I think" we are talking 2012 the earliest.

The Superman Forums aren't going anywhere.

[Man of Tomorrow]

So they want to release Green Lantern BEFORE Superman?

But still have a Superman cameo in it..?

That seems weird.

[dark_b]

if in 2010 its really harry potter,batman and the hobbit then superman wont be realesed in 2010.

[I Am The Knight]

So they want to release Green Lantern BEFORE Superman?

But still have a Superman cameo in it..?

That seems weird.

That can be easily changed.

[Antonello Blueberry]

So they want to release Green Lantern BEFORE Superman?

Well, they have a script for Green Lantern (in its second draft) which is reportedly being sent out to actors.

[Showtime]

if in 2010 its really harry potter,batman and the hobbit then superman wont be realesed in 2010.

I think you mean 2011.

[solidsnake86]

Well I guess deep down we all new more or less that 2010 was a bit of a stretch seeing as how they decided on August 22 to release the statement. If anything is on track it would be green lantern. For superman to come out in 2010 they would need a script that they liked, a director and cast superman as well if you go by the timelines of Batman Begins which if I'm not mistaken casted bale in fall of 2003 and hired nolan earlier that year. Even superman returns was seen as rushed by some because it happend very quickly from singer being announce to brandon being cast (wasn't that sometime in august 2004).

[Showtime]

You would want it filming by March 2008 for a Summer 2010 release, you could probably start as late as August if you had to.

[dark_b]

I think you mean 2011.correct.

they would have to have the main actor casted by the end of this year. the script even sooner.

[Mostpowerful]

Hmmm. What would you call "WB circling the JJ Abrams script"?



?

A rumor, of course.

[Showtime]

A rumor, of course.

Hmmm. I thought you said your sources said that to you?

[DavidTyler]

I honestly think the way to go if they want to go darker is not to make the character himself darker .... or the cinematography... but to make Krypton ...again not the cinematography ... the dark place. It looks like a perfect world but isn't.

And then, when Clark reaches adulthood.. we get to see him explore a little of the world and we see the grey areas there...

When he finally reaches Metropolis... it has to behave like the real world.... People are mostly good (except for Luthor and whoever the main antagonist is) but have feet of clay. Bad tempers along with their happier sides.

I think depth of emotion is needed here. But not to ignore the positive side of the cast either.

But ... and I can't stress this enough.... no dismal scenes that appear overcast and unpleasant. SR was loaded with them.

[solidsnake86]

I think to make it darker you make the villains a credible threat and dangerous. Having luthor act as the saviour of metropolis without people knowing how evil he actually is, is one way. Having brainiac be an actual threat is another way. Just look at batman, the villains were scary in that movie, you actually felt threatened by them. Obviously you don't want to go that extent because its superman, so you end it optimistically at the end with him actually saving the day.

[Paradoxium]

ScreenRant

As I proposed a while ago, it looks like I was pretty close: the Batman and Superman franchise will not run in parallel, but in serial. Meaning once Batman 3 is done, they won't make a Batman 4 for a loong while, but the baton will be in the hands of Superman.

This gives them the time to get it right, the time get SR out of the audience system and adds security in not overmilking the Batman franchise. This way the Nolan trilogy will have a complete feel and next Batman film will be another trilogy with a different creative direction. I think this is both a creatively and fiscally sound decision. With the economic recession, you have to be prudent about these things, and not blow your wads with a ton of franchise launches only to overextend what you can handle. So, yes for once I think WB is doing the right thing.

SR fanboys kept saying give Singer his chance, well we did and now don't expect another Superman movie in half a decade. I am banking 2012-2014 post Batman 3. At least this way we don't ever have to worry about the Wellingites anymore, he will be too old for the role (heheheheheheh :grin: Grampa Welling!).

Mirko should just shut down this forum and consolidate it to DC films, or better yet consolidate DC Films into the Batman forums :woot:. Justin should save some server money at bluetights.net (2-3 year rest) and buy himself a nice wristwatch and a pint of Guinness. It's going to be a long wait.

[BMM]

As I proposed a while ago, it looks like I was pretty close: the Batman and Superman franchise will not run in parallel, but in serial. Meaning once Batman 3 is done, they won't make a Batman 4 for a loong while, but the baton will be in the hands of Superman.

This gives them the time to get it right, the time get SR out of the audience system and adds security in not overmilking the Batman franchise. This way the Nolan trilogy will have a complete feel and next Batman film will be another trilogy with a different creative direction. I think this is both a creatively and fiscally sound decision. With the economic recession, you have to be prudent about these things, and not blow your wads with a ton of franchise launches only to overextend what you can handle. So, yes for once I think WB is doing the right thing.

SR fanboys kept saying give Singer his chance, well we did and now don't expect another Superman movie in half a decade. I am banking 2012-2014 post Batman 3. At least this way we don't ever have to worry about the Wellingites anymore, he will be too old for the role (heheheheheheh :grin: Grampa Welling!).

Mirko should just shut down this forum and consolidate it to DC films, or better yet consolidate DC Films into the Batman forums :woot:. Justin should save some server money at bluetights.net (2-3 year rest) and buy himself a nice wristwatch and a pint of Guinness. It's going to be a long wait.

:up: :up: :up:

[Mostpowerful]

Hmmm. I thought you said your sources said that to you?

Yes, but this source is not Robinov or Horn, or the other one I told you before..

[Dotten]

2012, so then a director will be attached a year from now, and Superman will be cast in about two years?

Allrightythen.

[Dark Knight]

Well, they have a script for Green Lantern (in its second draft) which is reportedly being sent out to actors.



Thankfully it looks like GL will be out in 2010!

Yes!

[Dark Knight]

As I proposed a while ago, it looks like I was pretty close: the Batman and Superman franchise will not run in parallel, but in serial. Meaning once Batman 3 is done, they won't make a Batman 4 for a loong while, but the baton will be in the hands of Superman.

This gives them the time to get it right, the time get SR out of the audience system and adds security in not overmilking the Batman franchise. This way the Nolan trilogy will have a complete feel and next Batman film will be another trilogy with a different creative direction. I think this is both a creatively and fiscally sound decision. With the economic recession, you have to be prudent about these things, and not blow your wads with a ton of franchise launches only to overextend what you can handle. So, yes for once I think WB is doing the right thing.

SR fanboys kept saying give Singer his chance, well we did and now don't expect another Superman movie in half a decade. I am banking 2012-2014 post Batman 3. At least this way we don't ever have to worry about the Wellingites anymore, he will be too old for the role (heheheheheheh :grin: Grampa Welling!).

Mirko should just shut down this forum and consolidate it to DC films, or better yet consolidate DC Films into the Batman forums :woot:. Justin should save some server money at bluetights.net (2-3 year rest) and buy himself a nice wristwatch and a pint of Guinness. It's going to be a long wait.


Yep! 2012 is loooooong ways away....and I have been saying the same thing regarding this pointless and irrelevant Superman forum.....especially if the damn film aint coming out until 2012? When a movie is officially confirmed with screen writers and a director then they can start this Supes forum up again. Otherwise, what the heck is the point.

Green Lantern should have his own forum by now!

[FlawlessVictory]

Yep! 2012 is loooooong ways away....and I have been saying the same thing regarding this pointless and irrelevant Superman forum.....especially if the damn film aint coming out until 2012? When a movie is officially confirmed with screen writers and a director then they can start this Supes forum up again. Otherwise, what the heck is the point.

You can just as easily not visit if you think it is so pointless and irrelevant.

[solidsnake86]

Even though the forum might seem pointless it probably gets more traffic than half of the other forums here. Especially when Millar opens his mouth or superman is mentioned in some random article.

[Showtime]

Superman Forums are not going anywhere.

[Spade]

People are quick to say this section should be closed, but the second news is mentioned activity flares up here like no tomorrow. That's a lot more than what I can say for the Justice League board; the only times it saw activity was when it was announced and when the cancellation was made official.

[Showtime]

These forums have been bumpin' since the Robinov quotes.

[SuperDaniel]

Expect Green Lantern to be the next DC Superhero movie we see on the theaters.

[That-Guy]

Expect Green Lantern to be the next DC Superhero movie we see on the theaters.

Let's hope so.

[Dark Knight]

Expect Green Lantern to be the next DC Superhero movie we see on the theaters.



Yep...and then we will get some REAL news to talk about.

[Showtime]

Expect Green Lantern to be the next DC Superhero movie we see on the theaters.

Not really a big shock is it?

[Weadazoid]

They kept the Hulk Forums open. It got very quiet and sparse but at least it was there. Fans need this kind of stuff. Post an idea.... check back in a couple days.


It doesn't always have to be fury of posts a back and forth tort and retort on all subject matters relevant or irrelevant.

[BATZARRO WWD]

Erm...

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/kevin-spacey-my-anger-is-all-on-screen-13992719.html

This is regarding Kevin Spacey...no one posted this yet, right?

That may not go down so well with the producers of the follow-up to Superman Returns, who will be paying him big bucks to reprise his role as Lex Luthor next year. "Well, look. If I'm not producing, then I'm an actor for hire. It ends there. That doesn't mean you're not working with a director and other actors and a writer to make the best movie you can, but it's a temporal experience, you'll be together for a couple of weeks or months and then you're done."

[GreenKToo]

Heh. Fine by me. I wanted a different/new/better Lex anyway.

[markstrange]

People have seen the origin many times over, I personally like origin story's but they can have the origin story played in flash back though out the entire three part series:

Superman: The Man of Steel
Superman: The Man of Tomorrow
Superman: The Last Son of Krypton

Edit: How about Tim Daly - returning in the role of superman. He did the voice for him after all.

[javi1024]

People have seen the origin many times over, I personally like origin story's but they can have the origin story played in flash back though out the entire three part series:

Superman: The Man of Steel
Superman: The Man of Tomorrow
Superman: The Last Son of Krypton
i agree. EVERYONE knows Superman's origin and we all know if they were to retell it again, it will have Supes and Lex squaring off....again. they should already establish him in Metropolis, run his origin in flashbacks (Burton Batman style), and have Lex in the background but still influential to whatever REAL villain Superman battles.

[DavidTyler]

i agree. EVERYONE knows Superman's origin and we all know if they were to retell it again, it will have Supes and Lex squaring off....again. they should already establish him in Metropolis, run his origin in flashbacks (Burton Batman style), and have Lex in the background but still influential to whatever REAL villain Superman battles.

I've said this over and over ... if you do it right, the Krypton stuff could be it's own movie.

The problem is that everyone seems to think it's all cut and dried.. Jor-el discovers the planet is going to blow up and decides to send baby Kal-el to Earth.

As told by Byrne and Wolfman, it's a much more involved story on the order of Logan's Run or other great science fiction films.

I don't want it in flashbacks.. I think the Krypton part of the film could be extremely exciting and engaging if it's done right.

The Donner film didn't help anyone to grasp how good that part of the story can be and now a lot of you won't even entertain the notion that there might be more to it than just the simple version from STM or the silver or golden ages of the comix.

[Lighthouse]

Erm...

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/kevin-spacey-my-anger-is-all-on-screen-13992719.html

This is regarding Kevin Spacey...no one posted this yet, right?

I equate this with Armie Hammer recently talking about playing Batman in the Justice League movie.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

For the love of...I can't believe that we still have people who believe that a Singer directed, Brandon Routh featuring sequel is coming out...ever.

It's over fellas. Sorry. I know you liked or loved the film but it's over.

[Lighthouse]

For the love of...I can't believe that we still have people who believe that a Singer directed, Brandon Routh featuring sequel is coming out...ever.

It's over fellas. Sorry. I know you liked or loved the film but it's over.

As much as I like to think so, I'm not going to 100% believe it until I hear Singer is off the project....unless Showtime and FNJ are 100% sure about him being off.

[BATZARRO WWD]

For the love of...I can't believe that we still have people who believe that a Singer directed, Brandon Routh featuring sequel is coming out...ever.

It's over fellas. Sorry. I know you liked or loved the film but it's over.

I just report on what I see. And the only thing I love is being one post closer to having a little picture over in the corner:cwink:

[Lighthouse]

I'd understand if some posters brought this up, but news sites are actually bringing up this tiny little blurb as proof that Spacey is going to play Luthor next year.

[javi1024]

I've said this over and over ... if you do it right, the Krypton stuff could be it's own movie.

The problem is that everyone seems to think it's all cut and dried.. Jor-el discovers the planet is going to blow up and decides to send baby Kal-el to Earth.

As told by Byrne and Wolfman, it's a much more involved story on the order of Logan's Run or other great science fiction films.

I don't want it in flashbacks.. I think the Krypton part of the film could be extremely exciting and engaging if it's done right.

The Donner film didn't help anyone to grasp how good that part of the story can be and now a lot of you won't even entertain the notion that there might be more to it than just the simple version from STM or the silver or golden ages of the comix.
that may be so, but i want to see a Superman movie where something happens besides Clark talks to Jor-El and Lex Luthor wants to buy Cuba. i want a movie where he's not catching airplanes and arresting petty thieves. i want to see the "action" from Action Comics. i want a Superman movie where he needs to use all of his power, all of his skill to take down Brainiac/ Metallo/ Parasite/ Darkseid/ anyone who will pose an actual threat to him. i don't want a movie about Krypton.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

As much as I like to think so, I'm not going to 100% believe it until I hear Singer is off the project....unless Showtime and FNJ are 100% sure about him being off.I'm going to 100% believe it for now. Listen I've listened to the rumors before in the movie's favor and thought until Robinov said "reintroduction" that there was going to be a sequel for two years. I'm not one of those fangirls who sticks her finger in her ears and only reads and believes the rumors and news that favor the outcome that I crave. I've gotten on people for doing that so I damn sure aren't doing it now.

I've said it time and time again, I'll be shocked if a sequel to SR comes out 5 to 6 years after the orginal movie in this day and age. I'd be shocked if a sequel is still coming about after Robinov openly sorta trashed the first movie. Also I'll wonder what "reintroduction" means to Robinov because thats doesn't sound like sequel to me. Hollywood is a strange place and you can never rule anything out or in but trashing your first movie in public and saying that you plan on a reintroduction sounds like a weird way to get people hyped for a direct sequel and causes un-needed tension between the studio and director during the production of said sequel.

[DavidTyler]

that may be so, but i want to see a Superman movie where something happens besides Clark talks to Jor-El and Lex Luthor wants to buy Cuba. i want a movie where he's not catching airplanes and arresting petty thieves. i want to see the "action" from Action Comics. i want a Superman movie where he needs to use all of his power, all of his skill to take down Brainiac/ Metallo/ Parasite/ Darkseid/ anyone who will pose an actual threat to him. i don't want a movie about Krypton.


I don't want a movie where Clark talks to Jor-El, fights Lex Luthor who has yet another land-grab plan, or a film devoid of action either.

BUT...

Having the first 25 minutes about the desperation of Jor-El and his final act of rebellion and heroism won't have anything to do with any of those things. It will even set up a prologue for Brainiac if you go with the animated concept that he's actually of Kryptonian origin.

This next film is definitely going to be a reboot and that implies, at least in part, a retelling of his origin. Why not do it right? Why not give us an epic film like Batman Begins?

Trust me - the remainder of the film can be just as exciting and not focus on Lex Luthor.

I may have to write a treatment and post it on these pages just so people can see what I'm talking about.

[KaptainKrypton]

This next film is definitely going to be a reboot and that implies, at least in part, a retelling of his origin. Why not do it right? Why not give us an epic film like Batman Begins?

Trust me - the remainder of the film can be just as exciting and not focus on Lex Luthor.

I may have to write a treatment and post it on these pages just so people can see what I'm talking about.
For once I am in agreement with you. Imagine that!:cwink: While I'm on the other end of the spectrum and do want a sequel, I do feel that if they reboot, an origin has to be done. Establishment of this separate franchise and it's own universe is the only way to go so that there is no confusion or relation to the previous franchise and it sets up its own set of rules. Besides...origin movies kick booty.

I'd be excited to read your treatment.

[p4poetic]

"The Plan Is Just To Reintroduce Superman..."

WE KNOW THE SUPERMAN STORY ALREADY. MOVE ON PLEASE.

[Super Kal]

they tried "moving on" with Superman Returns... it didn't work.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No they didn't.

[Spade]

I think he means as far as the origin goes, which is true. Singer thought the original film was timeless, so he didn't bother with re-doing the origin story.

[Nathan]

He just bothered with re-using the plot from Superman 1 and have him try to get his own land again.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He just bothered with re-using the plot from Superman 1 and have him try to get his own land again.Bingo. That movie was a total mind job.

[X Knight]

meow everybody!!

so, I take it there's no new news concerning the reboot??

[Double Down]

At this point, I won't believe anything until they start shooting.

[Superark]

Here is Robert Sanchez reporting at IESB about Superman. I haven't been visiting these boards in awhile so I don't know if this has been posted before or not. I apologize if it has...

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_alphacontent&section=8&cat=21&task=view&id=5563&Itemid=81

Thought it was interesting. I wonder what's going with MOS

[COMPO]

To be honest I liked Kate Bosworths Lois Lane better than Margot kidder, Margot kidder annoyed me for some reason, she was so needy with Superman.

[MAN O STEEL]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9716/cavillrd01023724v2gt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)



CAST HIM NOW!!!

[Superark]

^

Or maybe they should just keep this guy...

http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/routh8.511kent2superman1.jpg

:yay:

[MAN O STEEL]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1977/sm7cavillfc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/sm7cavillfc9.jpg/1/w500.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img518/sm7cavillfc9.jpg/1/)

[AgentPat]

^ LOL! Good manip, but I prefer the original version. :p

[Sam]

Here is Robert Sanchez reporting at IESB about Superman. I haven't been visiting these boards in awhile so I don't know if this has been posted before or not. I apologize if it has...

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_alphacontent&section=8&cat=21&task=view&id=5563&Itemid=81

Thought it was interesting. I wonder what's going with MOS

We will only have some kind of information about Singer when Valkyre press conferences start. Until then, Singet wont say a bit about MOS.

[hippie_hunter]

they tried "moving on" with Superman Returns... it didn't work.

No they tried moving on with Superman the New Movie, Superman Lives, Superman Flyby, Justice League, Batman vs. Superman and various other pitches. Those didn't work losing tens of millions of dollars in the process.

They went with a sequel to the Donner movies in Superman Returns, that didn't work as well as they hoped not making as much money they hoped for.

So really, they're kinda stuck on how to go forward with the Superman franchise since pretty much both directions have gone rather poorly.

[Spade]

Or maybe they should just keep this guy...

http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/routh8.511kent2superman1.jpg

Why? Routh's Superman looks even creepier than usual in that pic. It's like Superman wants to beat the hell out of all of us. :csad:

[Superark]

Why? Routh's Superman looks even creepier than usual in that pic. It's like Superman wants to beat the hell out of all of us. :csad:


here ya go Chibi, a little less creepy for ya :cwink:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Film/Superman%20Returns/PromoImages/SRPromo_072.jpg (javascript:;)

[COMPO]

No they tried moving on with Superman the New Movie, Superman Lives, Superman Flyby, Justice League, Batman vs. Superman and various other pitches. Those didn't work losing tens of millions of dollars in the process.

They went with a sequel to the Donner movies in Superman Returns, that didn't work as well as they hoped not making as much money they hoped for.

So really, they're kinda stuck on how to go forward with the Superman franchise since pretty much both directions have gone rather poorly.

They could do both, reinvent the franchise and move on but keep elements of the Donner Movies etc. the Fortress of Solitude keep the outside the same and inside, but make some changes... soemthing like that

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1977/sm7cavillfc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/sm7cavillfc9.jpg/1/w500.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img518/sm7cavillfc9.jpg/1/)

who is that?

[Lighthouse]

You know, I could have sworn there was a Superman casting thread.....

[COMPO]

yeah but we can still do it in both does it matter

[AgentPat]

who is that?Cavill's face, Welling's body.

You know, I could have sworn there was a Superman casting thread.....It's around here somewhere. ;)

[I SEE SPIDEY]

People in the Superman forums sticking to a topic...only when Showtime forces us too.;)

[Showtime]

Then on Sunday Showtime rested.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Then on Sunday Showtime rested.

Yeah Family Guy starts in two hours...

[Man of Tomorrow]

lol

Superman Returns is playing on YTV. I guess it can air on regular cable now.

[Dark Knight]

Here is an email I wrote to Jeff Robinov yesterday from my work....

Send him emails guys of your support for Cavill as Superman.



To: 'jeff.robinov@warnerbros.com'
Subject: Superman film Reboot suggestions


Hello Mr. Robinov,


First and foremost I would like to congratulate WB’s studios for the job well done on the success of The Dark Knight this past summer. I have been a fan of Batman stories for the past 26 years. I am currently 33 years of age now. The Dark Knight is easily the best comic genre film of all time and I am proud of the fact that WB’s hired and trusted Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan is the man and I can’t wait until him and the rest of the Bat crew come back for the third act of his Batman story.

Now in regards to the next Superman film, it seems a Bryan Singer directed sequel to Superman Returns is not the direction the studio will be going in. I was disappointed in this decision because I felt there was nowhere to go but up critically and financially in regards to a more action packed and visually epic sequel. Plus it would have been nice to another Superman film in 2010 instead of waiting until 2011 or 2012. I can understand the decision seems to have been made in regards to the studio wanting a new direction for Superman franchise and not having a good working relationship with Bryan Singer, which is fine. Now is the time to make up for past mistakes so we can finally see the ultimate Superman film. However, I would like to make some brief suggestions as to who the new directing candidate(s) should be and what source material from the Superman books should be used as inspiration to potential screenwriters. There are three main comic books that should be used as inspiration for the new film IMO. Mark Waids’ great story Superman Birthright, Jeph Loebs’ Superman for All Seasons, and the current story arc in Action Comics written by Geoff Johns featuring Braniac should all be considered. I also think that elements of those stories should be mixed in with elements from JJ Abrams last and updated Superman Flyby script. All those elements put together in a screenplay would be simply awesome in my opinion. Now who should be looked at to direct this story? I firmly believe that WB’s needs to start at the top when it comes to possible director candidates. There are three main directors who I feel would do a great job with a potential 170 million dollar budgeted Superman reboot or reintroduction film.

Ridley “The Great” Scott - is a studio guy and the films he has made have been critical, box office and cult success’. Give the man a 170 million dollar budget with an epic and action packed story that is re watchable and inspired by the source material I mentioned above and the film will make 350-400 million domestically at least.

Peter “Lord of the Rings” Jackson - the man knows how to make a visually epic story and turn it into a great film. Let WETA do the designs and keep the budget at 170 million and a nice profit he will make.

Zack Snyder- yes Zack has stated he turned down the chance to direct a Superman film reportedly. He says he doesn’t know how relevant the big blue boy scout can be made in this day and age onscreen. However, with your recent comments about the studio wanting to explore the darker more mature material in the next Superman film along with some of the other DC characters, perhaps the studio can convince him to reconsider? Especially if you give him a darker, yet more mature, edgy, and fun Superman story. An example of this is what Geoff Johns is doing with Braniac in Action Comics currently mixed in with some elements from Abrams last draft of the FlyBy script and I am convinced Zack would work wonders with Superman. He has not even peaked yet as a filmmaker and the sky is the limit with him IMO.

Remember to try and aim high for possible directors and work your way down from there. It doesn’t hurt to try.

Casting for Superman? There is one actor who is an up and comer and could be to Superman what Bale is to Batman. His name is Henry Cavill. He is plenty old enough now to play the man of steel and he has the acting chops, looks and potential build for Superman. All he has to do is tone up and bulk up. Let’s hope you can sign him before he becomes the next Bond. For Lois Lane I believe Anne Hathaway or Rachel McAdams would be great choices along side Cavill. Lex Luthor should be played by Joaquin Phoenix and Jor El should go to Russell Crowe or Jim Caviezal.

Thanks for hearing me out and let’s hope WB’s can get the new Superman out sooner rather than later. Too much potential would be wasted otherwise. Good luck. : )

[FilmNerdJamie]

If you wrote an e-mail to Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and Jeff Robinov, who would reply first?

[Showtime]

John McCain

[Dark Knight]

If you wrote an e-mail to Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and Jeff Robinov, who would reply first?


I would have to say Santa Clause....cause he still comes through every year dammit! :hehe:

[FilmNerdJamie]

I would have to say Santa Clause....cause he still comes through every year dammit! :hehe:

I'm just amused you wrote an e-mail to the man expecting it to actually mean anything worth a damn.

At least a small child doesn't know any better writing letters to Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny...

[Dark Knight]

John McCain



After seeing last nights second debate (if you can call it a debate) it shows even more proof that if McCain and Palin get elected (in some corrupt odd despicable way) than this country (US) will officially be flushed down the toilet! :o

[Dark Knight]

I'm just amused you wrote an e-mail to the man expecting it to actually mean anything worth a damn.

At least a small child doesn't know any better writing letters to Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny...


:whatever:

Jeff Robinov is Santa Clause??? WOW.....If he was the brains behind The Dark Knight then maybe he is?

Nah...Chris Nolan is more like Santa! :hehe:

[Dark Knight]

I'm just amused you wrote an e-mail to the man expecting it to actually mean anything worth a damn.

At least a small child doesn't know any better writing letters to Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny...



I'm actually amused that you think that I think that Robinov will actually read the email! :wow:

I wrote it out of boredom more than anything....try not to hate....it'll be okay buddy.

[FilmNerdJamie]

:whatever:

I'm not the one who wrote the letter thinking it would lead to anything. Might as well have put cookies and milk next to your letter to Robinov with that mind-set, genius.

[Dark Knight]

I'm not the one who wrote the letter thinking it would lead to anything. Might as well have put cookies and milk next to your letter to Robinov with that mind-set, genius.



I'm not the hater who compared Robinov to Santa Clause?? :huh:

Pretty lofty status you give to a corporate head?? Ugh...

Come on now....your pathetic attempt of an insult makes you sound like John McCain last night describing Obama as "that one"....

Sad...but don't hate....it'll be okay FilmNerd...

[FilmNerdJamie]

Yes, I'm the pathetic one for writing an e-mail to the #2 big-cheese of a billion-dollar plus film studio making damn-sure that everyone knew that I did so (on two different threads no less) thus expecting said action to actually mean something to my cause. Oh wait....that was you. :whatever:

Moron.

[SuperDaniel]

If he wanted to write an e-mail, why the hell do you bother?

[Showtime]

Filmnerdjamie...no name calling.

Dark Knight, if you get any sort of response I would be suprised, you might get a response for Alex Segura at best.

[Superark]

After seeing last nights second debate (if you can call it a debate) it shows even more proof that if McCain and Palin get elected (in some corrupt odd despicable way) than this country (US) will officially be flushed down the toilet! :o


Can we please keep politics out of this forum and keep the discussion on Superman

In regards to your letter DK, it never hurts to try!

[FilmNerdJamie]

You'll never get in more heated debates on the Internet than politics and Superman.

I'll back up Showtime with contacting Alex Segura. But be prepared for a very quick and to-the-point "That's something you'll have to talk to the studio about - not me!" type answer.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Sadly,

Robinov will probably never even look at that letter.

Just imagine how much spam letters he gets from SaveSupermanSteve regarding Welling on a daily basis... urgh

[Byron Long]

Sadly,

Robinov will probably never even look at that letter.

Just imagine how much spam letters he gets from SaveSupermanSteve regarding Welling on a daily basis... urgh

Yeah he won't read it assuming it gets to him in the first place which is highly unlikely. At best an unpaid intern probably gets to muddle through the email and send the canned "Here at Warner Bros. we appreciate your patronage..." reply email.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-dc-comics-president-gives-superman-update-5511

The only thing better than living in New York, is being at a party in New York. I was out on the town this past Monday night with my partners in crime El Mayimbe and Ron Henriques at the special WATCHMEN (http://www.latinoreview.com/films/watchmen-509) presentation that was scheduled for a hand full of media outlets. The footage we watched to me was very good. It had its moments. I definitely believe just like SIN CITY, you will either love it or hate it. I loved the opening sequence explaining the creation and the rise of the Minutemen, which quite frankly blew me away! It was that good. And honestly while I’ve never read the book, I must say I was inspired to immediately go out and buy one just so I am up to speed.

Anyhow, the real action didn’t happen inside the screening, but rather outside of it. While mingling around with guest and watching my partner in crime sneak food into his Latin pockets, I saw the one and only Paul Levitz, the President of DC Comics. I walked over to him and had a moment to hang out and chat with him briefly. I could not keep my mouth shut and had to ask the questions that Latino readers are asking. So I went in straight for the kill.

“So Paul, what the **** is happening with Superman?” Well not in those words actually. Paul looked over both shoulders like he was about to score some basura and said that things are still brewing.

In fact, he told me that “Last week Brandon Routh has come around the offices in New York and Los Angeles as of late to talk about Superman and what we want to do”……blah blah blah!

At first I thought it was the Apple Martini I was drinking but I soon realized that I just heard a bombshell go off in my brain! Brandon? He did say Brandon Routh was coming around talking about Superman! Why the hell would they be talking to Brandon if he was not going to be part of the reboot? Because he’s still in the mix!!!

The truth of the matter is that the way Mr. Levitz made it seem is that they love Brandon as Clark Kent and that he’s just a great guy, which I agree. I mean remember we at Latino Review told EVERYONE he was going to be the next Superman.

At that point my instincts kicked in and I continued with the questions. “What about Batman 3? You guys must be going crazy over the success of that film.” Paul pulls the cocktail shrimp from his mouth just enough to see him smile. I asked when were they going to get this Superman reboot done and he gave me a look like he was about to tell me the answers to the mysteries of the world. “Everyone is waiting for Nolan to sign on for another Batman, once that happens, the release date for Superman and all other future projects will follow.”

I could not believe my ears! Not only did my partner in crime blast wind next to me, but basically Superman’s future hangs in the balance until we have a concrete signature on the Batman contracts! The party was getting good, and the drinks were flowing making this just as easy as prom night picking. So I pressed with my questions. “What about Green Lantern and Supermax? How is that moving along?” Paul continued that Green Lantern was actually moving faster than Supermax, which to me makes sense because the Green Lantern script was badass!! If you do not remember the review we did, here it is again. The party went into the night, and the drinks continued to flow, finally I knew I had to leave as soon as my partner in crime started to stumble all over the place, looking kind of green in the face.

As of now just a few moments ago another inside source confirmed that yes they are waiting for Chris Nolan to sign the deal with the next Batman, and that they want him to commit to a July 2011 release. If that happens then the following superhero films will be released.

Green Lantern Summer 2010
Batman 3 Summer 2011
New Superman reboot Summer 2012

Also in the mix is THE FLASH.

[Mostpowerful]

Yay!!

BRING ROUTH BACK!!!!! :grin:


BRANDON ROUTH IS SUPERMAN!!!!!!! :supes:

[Crook]

Bleh. I smell a "semi-reboot". This is just as bad as "quasi-sequel". Also not feeling that the rest of the DC franchise hangs in the balance of....Nolan. Wtf? :down

[Maze]

:applaud

[Antonello Blueberry]

Bleh. I smell a "semi-reboot". This is just as bad as "quasi-sequel". Also not feeling that the rest of the DC franchise hangs in the balance of....Nolan. Wtf? :down
Well, considering all the money the Dark Knight earned worldwide, Nolan had the priority when it comes to decide the schedule of the future movies.
If he says he wants to do some other flick before another Batman, that means looking for another blockbuster for summer 2010.

[batman44]

So Routh could still play Superman in the reboot, I'm cool with that I guess. I didn't hate the guy, but I don't think it he did any spectacular either. Like Crook, I'm wondering if this is a full reboot or a semi-reboot. If it's the latter, I'll be less enthused about the next Superman movie until I hear story details and what exactly are they rebooting.

Also, if it's true that other DC films are waiting on Nolan signing a contract...then Nolan hurry up!!

[Lighthouse]

I'm totally ****ing confused.:huh:

[The Sage]

What the heck...

[bunk]

I want this to be a completely pure restart of the franchise. I just don't see how that can be executed with Brandon.

[Lighthouse]

Based on my precog abilities, I can predict Showtime's post.

"Interesting."

[Crook]

I want this to be a completely pure restart of the franchise. I just don't see how that can be executed with Brandon.
It can't. They're playing the "safe" route, which is to please the people that want a new direction, but want to keep whatever fans they had with SR. With Routh in, now I'm wondering if the rest of the cast is still in contention. Which is even worse.

Anything short of a complete re-do is gonna blow up in their faces, imo.

[The Sage]

Levitz could be wrong. It's WB's call after all. Still...*scratches head*

[Showtime]

Based on my precog abilities, I can predict Showtime's post.

"Interesting."

How did you know I was going to say that? I'm becoming so predictable.

Funny how Latino Review mentions 2012, which I was just talking about on the boards not to long ago. Also that Jamie Williams article from Screenrant mentioned 2012 as well. Funny how I was sent quotes from another site ripping on us saying we didn't know what we were talking about.

In regards to Routh, interesting. This info has been floating around for the past 3 or 4 weeks and it looks like it is actually true.

[Lighthouse]

Kel mentions in the comments section that it is a full reboot, and not a sequel.

So we have Brandon Routh in full reboot. I can live with that. I don't think it makes any sense, but I'm not totally opposed to it. It was more important to me that it wasn't going to be a sequel.

[Showtime]

Kel mentions in the comments section that it is a full reboot, and not a sequel.

So we have Brandon Routh in full reboot. I can live with that. I don't think it makes any sense, but I'm not totally opposed to it. It was more important to me that it wasn't going to be a sequel.

I don't think it make sense either to tell you the truth, but considering WB liked Brandon in the role then they are going to revamp Routh as well. At least he is Superman for now. You know how things change at WB.

[Gmanofsteel]

Yay!!

BRING ROUTH BACK!!!!! :grin:


BRANDON ROUTH IS SUPERMAN!!!!!!! :supes:

Not to rain on the parade, but it doesn't confirm he's doing it, but apparently he's being considered.

[FaT_tONle]

Keep Brandon but ignore the storyline of SR maybe? How ridiculous is that? I can't imagine WB will bring back the kid or the rest of the cast for that matter. But I like Brandon so I can just pretend he never starred in a Superman movie before... not like audiences will care... but keep in mind Eric Bana was also tossed around for TIH by Marvel so this is higly unlikely.

[Showtime]

Not to rain on the parade, but it doesn't confirm he's doing it, but apparently he's being considered.

Doesn't really rain on anybody's parade, seems as he is the only one mentioned so far. So I guess he is the only one we know of that is being considered at this point.

[bunk]

I don't think it make sense either to tell you the truth, but considering WB liked Brandon in the role then they are going to revamp Routh as well. At least he is Superman for now. You know how things change at WB.


Total face transplant. Solves everything.

[Showtime]

Honestly this is pretty interesting and I'm sure they have talked to Routh about the role and what is happening going forward, but we all know how DC/WB are with this stuff.

[Gmanofsteel]

Doesn't really rain on anybody's parade, seems as he is the only one mentioned so far. So I guess he is the only one we know of that is being considered at this point.

Just pointing out that it is premature to assume he's already got it. We've all been down this road before with Superman casting.

[Showtime]

Very true, I guess the difference is that Routh already played the character so he might have some type of inside track. However, Reboot + Routh = Confused

[FaT_tONle]

Would people care though? Even as fanboys? A LOT of people liked Routh... could we just forget that he was involved as Clark Kent previously and just go into the new Superman movie with a fresh mind even if the story is completely different and has nothing to do with SR? I honestly wouldn't mind.

[Hunter Rider]

I'm not sure how WB could fuse the concept and the actor from the movie they are rebooting, without it being a confusing cluster****.

[Showtime]

Would people care though? Even as fanboys? A LOT of people liked Routh... could we just forget that he was involved as Clark Kent previously and just go into the new Superman movie with a fresh mind even if the story is completely different and has nothing to do with SR? I honestly wouldn't mind.

Honestly they probably wouldn't care, certainly not the general public.

[wellsy]

Well now, this is odd.

Then again, I suppose Superman is a comic book property. Continuity stuff-ups are their speciality.

The plot thickens... (again).

[bunk]

I just don't want Routh's involvement to open the door for other SR actors to be included. It really couldn't be a reboot at that point, assuming it even could with Routh.

[jmc]

Routh in a reboot makes no sense. If you're going to reinvent the character it needs to be completely redone.

[batlovescatDC]

I honestly don't think that Brandon will be back. But if they do bring him back... I will not be seeing the film. I mean it. You cannnot do a reboot and bring back the same actor. Plain and simple. That's like if they would've cast George Clooney in Batman Begins. Ugh. Routh better NOT be back.

[FaT_tONle]

I just don't want Routh's involvement to open the door for other SR actors to be included. It really couldn't be a reboot at that point, assuming it even could with Routh.

It's really never going to be considered IMO. They liked Routh... but no one else. Just cast a black Lex Luthor like TAS had and you compeletly kill all aspects of a sequel. No carry over of any story lines from SR. I am not saying they can't find another Superman... but Routh has more selling power than another relative "unknown" because he has credibility with the role and can hold his own IMO.

[Lobo]

They could have a reboot with Routh if they have SR be the effects of the Black Mercy

[Showtime]

This is certainly odd to say the least, I am more interested in the 2012 which I heard some weeks ago. The Routh info has been floating around a little bit longer, but not a lot of us thought it had any weight. Guess it does.

[Lobo]

I'm a big Routh supporter so, I'm happy to hear about his potential involvement. But, I'm a bigger fan of Superman than I am of Brandon, so whatever happens, I'm excited.

[Showtime]

Well I think that is what is important, we are fans of the character.

[FCEEVIPER]

In fact, he told me that “Last week Brandon Routh has come around the offices in New York and Los Angeles as of late to talk about Superman and what we want to do”……blah blah blah!

At first I thought it was the Apple Martini I was drinking but I soon realized that I just heard a bombshell go off in my brain! Brandon? He did say Brandon Routh was coming around talking about Superman! Why the hell would they be talking to Brandon if he was not going to be part of the reboot? Because he’s still in the mix!!!
Nice!

[Jochimus]

I just don't want Routh's involvement to open the door for other SR actors to be included.

It wouldn't have to. From what I gather off most boards, Lois should be re-cast anyway, and on top of that WB really needs to show Luthor the door in favor of another worthy (and comics-based) opponent.

As for Routh himself...well, put a little more muscle on him, make his suit a bit more traditional, and let him do his own thing with the role instead of reading 30-year-old dialogue, and that would probably get even more distance from SR.

[Showtime]

Kate was given her walking papers a long time ago.

[Hunter Rider]

It could be a prequel I guess.

[Hunter Rider]

Kate was given her walking papers a long time ago.

Really ? That sounds like they had a problem with her ?

[Showtime]

She wasn't going to make it to the sequel.

[Lobo]

I :heart: Kate.

[Hunter Rider]

She wasn't going to make it to the sequel.

Why ?

[bunk]

It could be a prequel I guess.

I don't know if I could stomach that. I'm done with the Donnerverse.

[The Sage]

This is certainly odd to say the least, I am more interested in the 2012 which I heard some weeks ago. The Routh info has been floating around a little bit longer, but not a lot of us thought it had any weight. Guess it does.

So it's not final? Routh is just a possible candidate?

[Showtime]

I wouldn't say it was...yet.

As I told Hunter privately, WB is trying to get their slate ready which is obvious by the Latino Review article. Meeting with Gosling about Green Lantern, Routh about Superman. They want to have these guys in place when they announce things to make a big splash, the new contract for Nolan.

[bunk]

I'm going to start referring to Nolan as "The Puppet Master". He totally has WB by the balls.

[Showtime]

...and he knows it.

[The Sage]

Curious about the decision to keep Routh onboard despite it being a reboot.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Curious about the decision to keep Routh onboard despite it being a reboot.

Routh definitely had friends/allies/supporters in high places at the studio(s)...

[Showtime]

You know what is funny, the Wrath of Khan reference made by Singer. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Wrath Of Khan a entirely different direction as if the previous film didn't happen with different actors?

[FaT_tONle]

I'm going to start referring to Nolan as "The Puppet Master". He totally has WB by the balls.

It really does make zero sense going forward with a Superman reboot if Nolan walks... the reboot of TIH was done exclusively for a future role of Hulk in an Avengers movie. WB wants to make all these movies in the same time frame much like Marvel. If they don't have Batman comitted it makes zero sense redoing Superman in an attempt at YET ANOTHER stand alone franchise with all do respect to die hard Superman fans. Nolan = The Fate of DC superheroe movies... :woot:

Routh definitely had friends/allies/supporters in high places at the studio(s)...

Good observation... Routh is the safest pick IMO because he is still relatively low profiled but he isn't a complete unknown. Rebooting completely is always a risk.

[The Sage]

You know what is funny, the Wrath of Khan reference made by Singer. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Wrath Of Khan a entirely different direction as if the previous film didn't happen with different actors?

Someone mentioned that before. Singer foreshadowed his future. :lmao::lmao:

[bunk]

You know what is funny, the Wrath of Khan reference made by Singer. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Wrath Of Khan a entirely different direction as if the previous film didn't happen with different actors?

I don't understand what you mean. WoK was in fact a totally different direction and feel. The actors and continuity was the same as the first movie though.

[Showtime]

I don't understand what you mean. WoK was in fact a totally different direction and feel. The actors and continuity was the same as the first movie though.

I didn't think they acknowledged the first movie?

[FilmNerdJamie]

Well...the thing is this news was a major surprise...but then again...not really...

[bgshw44]

i love when there is news! Hopefully more will follow \S/

[Showtime]

Someone mentioned that before. Singer foreshadowed his future. :lmao::lmao:

Singerdaumus

[Jochimus]

I didn't think they acknowledged the first movie?

They didn't acknowledge it, but they didn't deny it outright, either. The only real carryover from the first film (outside of the main cast) was the fact that Kirk was still an Admiral.

[bunk]

I didn't think they acknowledged the first movie?

No, not specifically. The story from the first movie didn't leave any loose ends though. I was just confused, I thought you were saying there was a cast change.

[Sam]

lolololololololololol

Internet will fall apart with so many rumors about Superman Sequel! :)

We going to have many rumors months to come!

[jmc]

I'm going to start referring to Nolan as "The Puppet Master". He totally has WB by the balls.

Oh yeah, he can command anything from WB at the moment, the private jet, the company car, the holiday house in Hawaii, it funny how a single director now seems to control the fate of several WB movies.

[Motown Marvel]

why dont they just "reintroduce" sueprman with brandon routh via prequel to SR? maybe thats the plan.

[nintendo nerd]

I have a few questions:

- How important is Paul Levitz statement, is he well informed?

- If Routh is back, does it mean Singer is still involved like Producer or something?

- Is the new Superman movie some sort of reboot and a sequel at the same time? (sounds weird, I know) :huh:

[Sam]

why dont they just "reintroduce" sueprman with brandon routh via prequel to SR? maybe thats the plan.

I think that would be a terrible idea. SR already have a prequel. It is called Superman, The Movie.

BTW, i would love to know if they have plans for delete scenes from SR (krypton travel).

[Ion Kenshin]

i wouldnt mind it being a prequel of sorts if it involved the time he was away looking for krypton....this could bring about a movie with a villain that isnt lex and allot for an actual superman film where he fights someone or something of that nature

[Sam]

i wouldnt mind it being a prequel of sorts if it involved the time he was away looking for krypton....this could bring about a movie with a villain that isnt lex and allot for an actual superman film where he fights someone or something of that nature

hmm.... and they would be able to use deleted scenes..

yeah, its an option. Dunno if it is a good one, but its an option.

[Krug3r]

I just can't get around the fact that Routh can't act...he kinda ruined it for me.....
He does this stupid thing with his lip whenever he wants to act worried...like the scene with Lois' picture..he clinches his lips and he does that thru the entire movie.

He's acting in SR looked so fake....I could see he was trying to act....and it didn't seem natural.

I honestly will feel heart broken if he comes back

[Motown Marvel]

I think that would be a terrible idea. SR already have a prequel. It is called Superman, The Movie.

BTW, i would love to know if they have plans for delete scenes from SR (krypton travel).

those arent solid prequels...you know, vague history. i nkow that sounds like a lame excuse, but its true. it wouldnt be an issue at all to tell stories that take place before SR.

[Crook]

It would however disappoint a lot of people knowing where the story ends (with SR). If they wanna keep Routh, then I pray to god they make all the effort in the world to make sure it's a separate entity from Singer's. Otherwise, this "reboot" is useless.

[solidsnake86]

But at the end of the day, for those who don't like SR they don't have to count it part of the new trilogy. Honestly, they could get away with using Routh if they make it an origin story. They just have to surround him with an amazing cast and an amazing story.

[Lobo]

If they go with a true prequel to SR, Routh and all, I'm officially dubbing it a "preboot"©

[bunk]

If they go with a true prequel to SR, Routh and all, I'm officially dubbing it a "preboot"©

I would dub it "Box Office Poison".

[solidsnake86]

It'll be 6 years removed from SR, I doubt anyone will care, besides, didn't Robinov say Reintroduction. If the movie does come out in 2012 I'm sure this is just a ploy to calm the Routh fans because its 4 years away, and this is just speculation.

[hippie_hunter]

Curious about the decision to keep Routh onboard despite it being a reboot.

It has been said that Warner Bros. wants to please everyone with the Superman reboot. And they know that the Superman fanbase was pretty much split 50/50. A Superman reboot with Routh honestly sounds like a pretty damn good compromise.

[cronosred]

I dislike this idea, Routh in a reboot that's not connected to Superman Returns would be the same as Welling in the reboot and not have it be connected to Smallville. I wish the WB would start out fresh all around with the new movie.

[Seen]

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was primarily a tonal shift from Star Trek: The Motion Picture, because too many people complained it was...well, boring. So Paramount gave the franchise to Harve Bennett and he hired a young and talented writer/director, Nicholas Meyer, to re-shape Star Trek and return it back to its Horatio Hornblower roots (swashblucking and adventure, and not 2001: A Space Odyssey-style dramatics).

Does anyone see a resemblance? Now, I love Superman Returns, but I definitely get the need and desire to see a Superman movie with more energy and action, similar to how The Wrath of Khan was just simply more exciting than The Motion Picture. It had a stronger villain, simpler story and really back-to-basics storytelling.

However, in the grand scheme of things, The Wrath of Khan did not erase The Motion Picture from existence, it just moved on, and told another part of the story, much like the TV show did on a weekly basis. If WB decides to keep Routh, they don't have to really do a reboot. They could simply just tell a new story. I mean the costumes, sets, almost everything aesthetically changed from The Motion Picture to The Wrath of Khan, if we're using Star Trek as the model. No reason why the same can't be done here.

[boog_spin]

i thought routh was cool...and i think if they take a "darker" route (and by "darker" i mean that the threats to the world seem REAL...like with the dark knight you FELT that unless batman did something that people were going to die..there were real life/death consequences...i think thats what they meant by going "darker..at least thats what i hope hahahaha)

hopefully they show some kind of prequel..actually who knows..the whole idea seems retarded..i really liked routh...and i liked the possible scenarios for a sequel given what was set up with new krypton/supes DNA/ crystals etc i think it makes no sense to include him in a completely new "reboot"

[jmc]

It has been said that Warner Bros. wants to please everyone with the Superman reboot. And they know that the Superman fanbase was pretty much split 50/50. A Superman reboot with Routh honestly sounds like a pretty damn good compromise.

But should there be compromise? Either do a SR sequel or do a reboot, there shouldn't be any middle ground, a rebooted series using the same actor of a half/kinda sequel to another series? Superman deserves better treatment than mere compromise, WB need to stop sitting on the fence and make some tough decisions otherwise the character will never have the chance to fully reach its potential.

[Superman-Prime]

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-dc-comics-president-gives-superman-update-5511

the only thing better than living in new york, is being at a party in new york. I was out on the town this past monday night with my partners in crime el mayimbe and ron henriques at the special watchmen (http://www.latinoreview.com/films/watchmen-509) presentation that was scheduled for a hand full of media outlets. The footage we watched to me was very good. It had its moments. I definitely believe just like sin city, you will either love it or hate it. I loved the opening sequence explaining the creation and the rise of the minutemen, which quite frankly blew me away! It was that good. And honestly while i’ve never read the book, i must say i was inspired to immediately go out and buy one just so i am up to speed.

Anyhow, the real action didn’t happen inside the screening, but rather outside of it. While mingling around with guest and watching my partner in crime sneak food into his latin pockets, i saw the one and only paul levitz, the president of dc comics. I walked over to him and had a moment to hang out and chat with him briefly. I could not keep my mouth shut and had to ask the questions that latino readers are asking. So i went in straight for the kill.

“so paul, what the **** is happening with superman?” well not in those words actually. Paul looked over both shoulders like he was about to score some basura and said that things are still brewing.

In fact, he told me that “last week brandon routh has come around the offices in new york and los angeles as of late to talk about superman and what we want to do”……blah blah blah!

At first i thought it was the apple martini i was drinking but i soon realized that i just heard a bombshell go off in my brain! Brandon? He did say brandon routh was coming around talking about superman! Why the hell would they be talking to brandon if he was not going to be part of the reboot? Because he’s still in the mix!!!

The truth of the matter is that the way mr. Levitz made it seem is that they love brandon as clark kent and that he’s just a great guy, which i agree. I mean remember we at latino review told everyone he was going to be the next superman.

At that point my instincts kicked in and i continued with the questions. “what about batman 3? You guys must be going crazy over the success of that film.” paul pulls the cocktail shrimp from his mouth just enough to see him smile. I asked when were they going to get this superman reboot done and he gave me a look like he was about to tell me the answers to the mysteries of the world. “everyone is waiting for nolan to sign on for another batman, once that happens, the release date for superman and all other future projects will follow.”

i could not believe my ears! Not only did my partner in crime blast wind next to me, but basically superman’s future hangs in the balance until we have a concrete signature on the batman contracts! The party was getting good, and the drinks were flowing making this just as easy as prom night picking. So i pressed with my questions. “what about green lantern and supermax? How is that moving along?” paul continued that green lantern was actually moving faster than supermax, which to me makes sense because the green lantern script was badass!! If you do not remember the review we did, here it is again. The party went into the night, and the drinks continued to flow, finally i knew i had to leave as soon as my partner in crime started to stumble all over the place, looking kind of green in the face.

As of now just a few moments ago another inside source confirmed that yes they are waiting for chris nolan to sign the deal with the next batman, and that they want him to commit to a july 2011 release. If that happens then the following superhero films will be released.

green lantern summer 2010
batman 3 summer 2011
new superman reboot summer 2012

also in the mix is the flash.

Oh, hell yeah!!! Brandon routh!!!!

This time, give Brandon Routh another chance. He was really good as Superman in Returns. I'm very serious and he deserves to have another chance to be Superman again.

[Mostpowerful]

Not to rain on the parade, but it doesn't confirm he's doing it, but apparently he's being considered.

I know it's not set in stone, TW4S, but it is definitely great and very encouraging news for us Brandon fans, and we are A LOT. Sorry you're not happy with the news, though.



It's really never going to be considered IMO. They liked Routh... but no one else. Just cast a black Lex Luthor like TAS had and you compeletly kill all aspects of a sequel. No carry over of any story lines from SR. I am not saying they can't find another Superman... but Routh has more selling power than another relative "unknown" because he has credibility with the role and can hold his own IMO.

YES, exactly. Brandon was damn good in SR, even if he didn't have many lines. He definitely had the Presence and made a totally believable Superman and Clark. I think he can grow nicely into the role. NO doubt. Best Superman/Clark since Chris Reeve.




Would people care though? Even as fanboys? A LOT of people liked Routh... could we just forget that he was involved as Clark Kent previously and just go into the new Superman movie with a fresh mind even if the story is completely different and has nothing to do with SR? I honestly wouldn't mind.

Yup, that's why he won awards like the Best Newcomer (given by the Empire mag, where many thousands of people voted for him. He was really well accepted by the mainstream and a hit in the role).

And I not only wouldn't mind if he returns, I REALLY WANT HIM TO RETURN. I LOVED HIM IN THE ROLE. He is MY Superman.

[Mostpowerful]

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was primarily a tonal shift from Star Trek: The Motion Picture, because too many people complained it was...well, boring. So Paramount gave the franchise to Harve Bennett and he hired a young and talented writer/director, Nicholas Meyer, to re-shape Star Trek and return it back to its Horatio Hornblower roots (swashblucking and adventure, and not 2001: A Space Odyssey-style dramatics).

Does anyone see a resemblance? Now, I love Superman Returns, but I definitely get the need and desire to see a Superman movie with more energy and action, similar to how The Wrath of Khan was just simply more exciting than The Motion Picture. It had a stronger villain, simpler story and really back-to-basics storytelling.

However, in the grand scheme of things, The Wrath of Khan did not erase The Motion Picture from existence, it just moved on, and told another part of the story, much like the TV show did on a weekly basis. If WB decides to keep Routh, they don't have to really do a reboot. They could simply just tell a new story. I mean the costumes, sets, almost everything aesthetically changed from The Motion Picture to The Wrath of Khan, if we're using Star Trek as the model. No reason why the same can't be done here.

GREAT POST. I agree. And I also LOVE Superman Returns. Besides, SR has very good reviews all over the web (rotten tomatoes, Yahoo, Amazon.com, etc). A lot of people liked it. They just wanted more action, aka superfights.

[I Am The Knight]

This is weird, and certainly unexpected (for those of us not in the know, unlike Showy or FNJ) but I gotta say...I could definitely live with this. For me, Routh is Superman right now, and I'm sure he has a lot of untapped potential :up:

[Superman-Prime]

This is weird, and certainly unexpected (for those of us not in the know, unlike Showy or FNJ) but I gotta say...I could definitely live with this. For me, Routh is Superman right now, and I'm sure he has a lot of untapped potential :up:

I'm beginning to think you're cool now. :up:

[millennium movies]

I just don't see what the fuzz is all about, they are keeping the best thing of the last Superman movie and putting him on a fresh new street. Very simple, i don't see the complications.

[Crook]

Baggage.

It'd be like bringing Clooney in to do Batman Begins. He could deliver a great performance and the movie would have been dark, but people familiar with the franchise can't help but partly associate him with B&R.

[Superark]

Freakin' Awesome!

Brandon Routh was great and he was one of the aspects I was going to miss the most with this "reintroduction". I think it would be a good gesture to SR fans to keep him.

I know this is just a rumor right now, but if this ends up being true then thank the Heaven the above!!!

[Superark]

Baggage.

It'd be like bringing Clooney in to do Batman Begins. He could deliver a great performance and the movie would have been dark, but people familiar with the franchise can't help but partly associate him with B&R.


Only difference there is most people liked Routh as Supes while Clooney was generally disliked as Batman.

[Crook]

It's not about the actor, but the film they're connected to.

[millennium movies]

Its only issue for the fanboys online.

[Superark]

It's not about the actor, but the film they're connected to.


There is some truth to that, but even some people who did not enjoy SR liked Routh.

I think it would be fair to say most folks wouldn't mind him in the role again.

[SuperZer0]

This means Bye Bye Henry Cavill.

[NeoRanger]

Its only issue for the fanboys online.

Yes, because other people just won't remember that guy from that movie with that dude in the blue tights as soon as the first trailer is shown.

The stupidity and short memory span of the audience only goes so far.

[dark_b]

i am a big fan of Routh. but there is no way that this will be a reboot if he is in the movie. no new origin. nothing.
i know that this guy is the boss from DC. but maybe he likes Routh and he twisted the words like he had a chance.so i say. if it is not a sequel to SR..then just do a reboot. dont complicate with those semisequels. my head is already starting to hurt.

Showtime: really? kate would not be in a singer sequel?