The Sarah Palin Thread (You can see Russia from this thread)

[UA-Archangel]

Why don't you provide some proof?

I backtracked through the pages I've missed and all I see you saying is "well she must have meant to spend that money on rebuilding infrastructure" when there is nothing to suggest that.

She got the town into debt simply to bring in big corporations.

It doesn't really matter how she spent their tax money. If she had spent the money in a way her constituents didn't support, they wouldn't be giving her an 80% approval rate.

She did something good (in their eyes).

[SuBe]

It doesn't really matter how she spent their tax money. If she had spent the money in a way her constituents didn't support, they wouldn't be giving her an 80% approval rate.

She did something good (in their eyes).
Her highest was 89%

[Cosmic]

It seems to me that McCain campaign's strategy is backfiring on them. The mainstream media built up the story of Palin's selection as this brilliant political move, and an important moment in history. Since nobody knew her, it seemed like she was a clean slate. Now, it seems like there's no end to the controversy and questions concerning her personal integrity.

The McCain campaign needs to start aggressively addressing these issues, ASAP, before things really get out of hand. I don't know what else to say. Maybe they should've gone with Lieberman.

[UA-Archangel]

This is a common theme in your posts.

"Probably"

"Maybe"

"If it were a bad decision we'd hear more"

Post some proof, dude. Seriously.

I don't have to provide proof. For all I care, the constituents wanted her to buy pink stuffed bunnies. If she did that, they consider the money well spent and have given her a high approval rate because of it.

Odds are, people being relatively normal everywhere, she probably spent the money on badly needed upgrades to their infrastructure to help make Alaska a much more comfortable state to be in.

[Malice]

It seems to me that McCain campaign's strategy is backfiring on them. The mainstream media built up the story of Palin's selection as this brilliant political move, and an important moment in history. Since nobody knew her, it seemed like she was a clean slate. Now, it seems like there's no end to the controversy and questions concerning her personal integrity.

The McCain campaign needs to start aggressively addressing these issues, ASAP, before things really get out of hand. I don't know what else to say. Maybe they should've gone with Lieberman.

Lieberman would have been a nightmare for the right....

[kainedamo]

'October Surprise' Over Palin Investigation?
"Likely Damaging" Report on Governor Scheduled for Release Days Before November

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5702697&page=1

[jaguarr]

'October Surprise' Over Palin Investigation?
"Likely Damaging" Report on Governor Scheduled for Release Days Before November

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5702697&page=1

This is going to get ugly. Two excerpts from that article:


French says the investigation will also seek to learn how the Governor's office obtained confidential information from her ex-brother-in-law's personnel file.

"If she was involved, it would be a violation of state law," said French.


French says the McCain campaign failed to contact any of the Senators involved in the investigation during the vetting process of Gov. Palin.


Not good. Not good.


jag

[kainedamo]

The McCain camp is between a rock and a hard place.

Palin is bringing so much negativity in the media with her. Seemingly with a new hit everyday (kinda seems like every 5 minutes, I can barely leave the computer without seeing something new). The McCain camp should probably drop her before it gets any worse. But if they drop her, can they salvage the campaign?

[UA-Archangel]

Is Sarah Palin really middle-class?

Seriously....

You can make a couple of hundred grand on the fishing boats in a single season.

More, if you own the boat.

But it's almost non-stop action for the couple of months you're out there, no sleep during that time.

[souvlaki]

It seems to me that McCain campaign's strategy is backfiring on them. The mainstream media built up the story of Palin's selection as this brilliant political move, and an important moment in history. Since nobody knew her, it seemed like she was a clean slate. Now, it seems like there's no end to the controversy and questions concerning her personal integrity.

The McCain campaign needs to start aggressively addressing these issues, ASAP, before things really get out of hand. I don't know what else to say. Maybe they should've gone with Lieberman.

If the media keeps playing up the problems with Palin I think this election will become much more about Vice Presidents than previous election. If Obama holds his own in his debates with McCain I think this election will become much more about the overall ticket. People will look at Biden and then look at Palin and Obama is likely going to win that argument with the independent voters, who in all likelihood will decide the election.

[EdRyder]

Lieberman would have been a nightmare for the right....

Couldnt agree more.In fact, there really wasnt any slam dunk choice. There was slim pickins on that side of the aisle..Between who drank Bush's kool-aide and who guzzled McCains lemonade.
As far as doing his own personal research and vetting process went, I dont know what McCain was thinking.
Knew about the baby thing,= let it slide.
Knew about the "trooper thing" =let it slide.

Makes me wonder if he looked into Huckabee at all.What couldve possibly have been there that took him out of the running?

[ShadowBoxing]

Makes me wonder if he looked into Huckabee at all.What couldve possibly have been there that took him out of the running?Huckabee has his own skeletons, but I can't help but think he would've been a better choice than this.

[bell110]

Yeah, I can see McCain asking her to step aside.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Has a presidential candidate ever fired his VP selection before the election due to bad decision-making? Is that even legally allowed by the parties?

This campaign season has certainly been one of many firsts, and I wonder if McCain will prove his Maverick-ness and shock us again by doing the unprecedented.

[ShadowBoxing]

Has a presidential candidate ever fired his VP selection before the election due to bad decision-making? Is that even legally allowed by the parties?

This campaign season has certainly been one of many firsts, and I wonder if McCain will prove his Maverick-ness and shock us again by doing the unprecedented.
Firing her is almost as bad as keeping her at this point.

[Malice]

McCain wont dump her, that would be worse...

[souvlaki]

Has a presidential candidate ever fired his VP selection before the election due to bad decision-making? Is that even legally allowed by the parties?

This campaign season has certainly been one of many firsts, and I wonder if McCain will prove his Maverick-ness and shock us again by doing the unprecedented.

I doubt that would happen. I'd imagine Palin would step down for "personal reasons".

[SuperT]

I think firing her at this point would just completely derail this absolute trainwreck of a campaign.

He's let it go on for too long now, there's no turning back.

[ShadowBoxing]

I doubt that would happen. I'd imagine Palin would step down for "personal reasons".I could easily see Palin stepping down to help "raise her grandchild" or something like that.

[jaguarr]

I could easily see Palin stepping down to help "raise her grandchild" or something like that.

With all the controversies and scandals surrounding her, the media would never buy it and they'd rip her and McCain apart for all of it. There's really no good way out of this for her or McCain at this point.

jag

[Malice]

The question in at this point, is all this being spun into stories or is it all true....
We will have to wait some time to find out.

[Excel]

If John McCain gets a different vp, the elections over. If he wants to win, hell have to stand by his choice and hope to weather the storm.

[SuperT]

I'm still just absolutely CREEPED out that she wanted to fire that librarian in Wasilia because the person wouldn't remove books Palin wanted removed!!!

WHO DOES THAT!!!! :wow: :wow:

[Malice]

If John McCain gets a different vp, the elections over. If he wants to win, hell have to stand by his choice and hope to weather the storm.

I completely agree.
Numerous people are standing by Palin, regardless of the bad press at the moment

[The Overlord]

Lieberman would have been a nightmare for the right....

Why because he doesn't believe the world was created in six days? It seems like anyone who isn't a total bible thumper is a "nightmare" for the Right. that's the problem, you can't appeal to moderates and the hardcore base at the same time.

[souvlaki]

Oh crap... even Rove is quoted in the Washington Post as saying she was chosen less as a governing decision, and more as a campaign decision.

"To make inroads with soft Republicans and those Hillary supporters male or female that can be gotten by somebody who's a gun-toting, hockey-playing woman."

That's pretty awful.

[Excel]

I completely agree.
Numerous people are standing by Palin, regardless of the bad press at the moment

It highly likely they lose and this press is the reason, but atleast they can go out with a bit of dignity. Choosing a new VP would be admitting defeat.

[jaguarr]

The question in at this point, is all this being spun into stories or is it all true....
We will have to wait some time to find out.

The damage is done, though. McCain's judgment is seriously in doubt with voters at this point. There's just so many controversies and scandals with Palin. Even if they all were to miraculously be disproven or explained away (and that seems unlikely at this point), the damage is done. If the Troopergate thing blows up like it's starting to sound like it might, then it will really tank him. The successionist party she was a member of paints her in a very bad light ("America First"?...mmm....maybe not.) Her judgment of getting on that plane to make a 12 hour trip (including the drive) from Texas to Alaska and that small town, bypassing so many places with NICU in the process, AFTER her water broke to deliver a premature, high risk Downs Syndrome baby at the age of 44 is poor judgment period. There's so many things that are damaging about her, it's scary, and I'm sure I'm missing a lot. McCain obviously didn't vet her properly and if he sticks to his claims that he did then that's even worse.

jag

[kane9321]

if she quit..the media would rip her a new one....lol. I'd pay to see that

[souvlaki]

McCain obviously didn't vet her properly and if he sticks to his claims that he did then that's even worse.

Are you doubting the Google search engine?

[jaguarr]

Are you doubting the Google search engine?

I'm doubting McCain and his team's ability to use it. Folks in this very forum have vetted her harder using Google than they ever did.

jag

[Malice]

Why because he doesn't believe the world was created in six days? It seems like anyone who isn't a total bible thumper is a "nightmare" for the Right. that's the problem, you can't appeal to moderates and the hardcore base at the same time.

No you missed my point...Lieberman is a moderate...and the right...are...how should I put it...right....
What else can be said?

[Excel]

The vetting team did not get to Alaska till THURSDAY AFTERNOON. They vetted her for about 2 hours. :lmao:

[Gilpesh]

The damage is done, though. McCain's judgment is seriously in doubt with voters at this point. There's just so many controversies and scandals with Palin. Even if they all were to miraculously be disproven or explained away (and that seems unlikely at this point), the damage is done. If the Troopergate thing blows up like it's starting to sound like it might, then it will really tank him. The successionist party she was a member of paints her in a very bad light ("America First"?...mmm....maybe not.) Her judgment of getting on that plane to make a 12 hour trip (including the drive) from Texas to Alaska and that small town, bypassing so many places with NICU in the process, AFTER her water broke to deliver a premature, high risk Downs Syndrome baby at the age of 44 is poor judgment period. There's so many things that are damaging about her, it's scary, and I'm sure I'm missing a lot. McCain obviously didn't vet her properly and if he sticks to his claims that he did then that's even worse.

jag

You forgot she was almost recalled because when she became mayor... she fired three people cause they didn't agree with her. And the fact that she wanted to censor the library... and that some of the debt in her hometown is from a botched deal to build an unnecessary ice rink where she herself is to blame for the problems with purchasing the land.

I can't find links right now but just google her and you'll find it.

[Malice]

The damage is done, though. McCain's judgment is seriously in doubt with voters at this point. There's just so many controversies and scandals with Palin. Even if they all were to miraculously be disproven or explained away (and that seems unlikely at this point), the damage is done. If the Troopergate thing blows up like it's starting to sound like it might, then it will really tank him. The successionist party she was a member of paints her in a very bad light ("America First"?...mmm....maybe not.) Her judgment of getting on that plane to make a 12 hour trip (including the drive) from Texas to Alaska and that small town, bypassing so many places with NICU in the process, AFTER her water broke to deliver a premature, high risk Downs Syndrome baby at the age of 44 is poor judgment period. There's so many things that are damaging about her, it's scary, and I'm sure I'm missing a lot. McCain obviously didn't vet her properly and if he sticks to his claims that he did then that's even worse.

jag

Not neccisarilly..
he Monica scheme made Bill more popular and it slid of him....
Only time will tell in about a month we will have a real view on this.

[ManofmyWord]

McCain is standing by his choice and he's "Grateful for the results"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26510348/

"Asked about whether Palin's background was thoroughly checked out before he selected her, McCain told reporters in Philadelphia: "The vetting process was completely thorough and I'm grateful for the results."

[jaguarr]

Not neccisarilly..
he Monica scheme made Bill more popular and it slid of him....
Only time will tell in about a month we will have a real view on this.

He was impeached for it. :huh: And he was already in office at that point. Totally different animal.

jag

[danoyse]

I found this on another forum, but apparently it's starting to make the rounds in the US news too. Someone found the myspace page of Governor Palin's future son-in-law:

Proud to be a redneck: The teenager expecting a baby with Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter
By David Gardner and David Jones
Last updated at 2:43 PM on 02nd September 2008

The teenager expecting a baby with the 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin calls himself 'a f***ing redneck' on his MySpace page.

Levi Johnston, 18, a high-school hockey player, is engaged to Bristol Palin, whose pregnancy was revealed to the Republican party convention just days after her 44-year-old mother was picked as John McCain's running mate.

He is the high-school sweetheart of the Alaska governor's daughter and used his home page to admit having a girlfriend, but said: 'I don't want kids.'


The hockey player with the Wasilla Warriors in Alaska was said to have made no secret of the pregnancy in his home town.

On the page he also says: 'But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s*** and just chillin' I guess'


He added: 'Ya f *** with me I'll kick [your] ***'

Johnston has also been in trouble with the law, for taking king salmon from a lake out of season.

Bristol's pregnancy was revealed after a string of rumours suggested that Mrs Palin's five-month-old baby son was actually her grandson.


A series of internet postings circulated for up to 48 hours before the Alaskan governor announced last night that Bristol, 17, was five months pregnant and would marry the father of the child.

Oh boy...

[souvlaki]

This whole thing reminds me of that scene in the recent X-Files film where Scully, a longtime doctor and government agent, researches stem-cell research by pulling up links on Google.

[Malice]

He was impeached for it. :huh: And he was already in office at that point. Totally different animal.

jag

True, but my point was that opinions are such a fickle animal, its hard to see how it pans out till its over.

[jaguarr]

I found this on another forum, but apparently it's starting to make the rounds in the US news too. Someone found the myspace page of Governor Palin's future son-in-law:



Oh boy...

Hey little sister what have you done
Hey little sister whos the only one
Hey little sister whos your superman
Hey little sister whos the one you want
Hey little sister shot gun!

Its a nice day to start again
Its a nice day for a white wedding
Its a nice day to start again.

Hey little sister what have you done
Hey little sister whos the only one
Ive been away for so long (so long)
Ive been away for so long (so long)
I let you go for so long

Its a nice day to start again (come on)
Its a nice day for a white wedding
Its a nice day to start again.

(pick it up)

Take me back home
There is nothin fair in this world
There is nothin safe in this world
And theres nothin sure in this world
And theres nothin pure in this world
Look for something left in this world
Start again
Come on

Its a nice day for a white wedding
Its a nice day to start again.
Its a nice day for a white wedding
Its a nice day to start again


jag

[souvlaki]

He added: 'Ya f *** with me I'll kick [your] ***'

classy.

[jaguarr]

True, but my point was that opinions are such a fickle animal, its hard to see how it pans out till its over.

I would agree with you if it were just the Babygate thing, but there's way too much stuff piling up on Palin for it to just be glossed over.

jag

[SuBe]

Why does everything have to end with Gate these days? I wonder what Washington was like before Watergate. Would Kennedy have "MonroeGate" if he was president today, or would Lincoln have "CivilwarGate"?

Andrew Jackson would probably be in the middle of "Asskick'nGate".

[Raiden]

I found this on another forum, but apparently it's starting to make the rounds in the US news too. Someone found the myspace page of Governor Palin's future son-in-law:



Oh boy...

This guy doesn't sound like a traditional family value kind of guy. :hehe:

[Gilpesh]

It's that she's practically on trail for abuse of power... and McCain is sitting there saying that the vetting process was thorough.

[jaguarr]

classy.

Meh. Sounds like a pretty typical 17 year old to me.

jag

[Malice]

I would agree with you if it were just the Babygate thing, but there's way too much stuff piling up on Palin for it to just be glossed over.

jag

I look at it this way....
She was such a out of left field choice, that the Obama camp didn't have the dirt on her, so they dug it up quick.

I can imagine them finding all this in a matter of a few days...
They had a stack of data prepared for every of the other possible VP's...

Who knows...I wont argue this point as simply put, I cant justify it one way or another...

[jaguarr]

Why does everything have to end with Gate these days? I wonder what Washington was like before Watergate. Would Kennedy have "MonroeGate" if he was president today, or would Lincoln have "CivilwarGate"?

Andrew Jackson would probably be in the middle of "Asskick'nGate".

I agree. We should call of of it GateGate!!!! :hehe:

jag

[bell110]

I doubt that would happen. I'd imagine Palin would step down for "personal reasons".


I can see her telling the press that she'll be a distraction and is stepping down. Of course McCain isn't going to publically ask her to step down.

[Malice]

Here is an interesting thought....
(its a thought...not a good one that is)

Lets assume he DID know ALL this...

What does he get from this? I am honestly curious....

[jaguarr]

I look at it this way....
She was such a out of left field choice, that the Obama camp didn't have the dirt on her, so they dug it up quick.

I can imagine them finding all this in a matter of a few days...
They had a stack of data prepared for every of the other possible VP's...

Who knows...I wont argue this point as simply put, I cant justify it one way or another...

Oh, her name came up awhile ago and I have a feeling the Democrats did a hell of a lot more vetting on Palin up front than McCain did. Their attention to detail with this election has been impeccable. I think they knew full well what she was about and probably laughed their asses off when McCain announced her because they knew they would hardly have to address her at all because all this stuff would come up and cause all these issues for her and McCain.

jag

[Malice]

I just seriously doubt they pointed to Palin and said lets go with her, and no real investigation was done. I mean its possible...I just have a hard time believing it

[Immortalfire]

I'd like to go on record and say that Sarah Palin's children have horrible names...of course I use the word "name" lightly. Bristol, Track, (NASCAR fan?) Willow, Piper (vomit), and Trig.

Bad names are just one of my peeves.

[SuBe]

I agree. We should call of of it GateGate!!!! :hehe:

jag
YES!!:yay:

[jaguarr]

Here is an interesting thought....
(its a thought...not a good one that is)

Lets assume he DID know ALL this...

What does he get from this? I am honestly curious....

I think he was honestly going for the big "wow" factor for short-term attention and to try to steal away the Dem's thunder after their successful convention and really didn't look all that far beyond that. Maybe he thought that people wouldn't care about all these controversies? I really don't know. It almost...almost feels like he did this on purpose just to kill the Republican's shot at keeping the White House, to be honest.

jag

[SuBe]

I'd like to go on record and say that Sarah Palin's children have horrible names...of course I use the word "name" lightly. Bristol, Track, (NASCAR fan?) Willow, Piper (vomit), and Trig.

Bad names are just one of my peeves.
Maybe she looked at the Member list on the Hype, just to find names that weren't taken yet.

[jaguarr]

I just seriously doubt they pointed to Palin and said lets go with her, and no real investigation was done. I mean its possible...I just have a hard time believing it

It sounds like it was a very, very cursory, surface-level, fast investigation that didn't really dig very far at all, to be honest. I mean....Google? Seriously?

jag

[Immortalfire]

Maybe she looked at the Member list on the Hype, just to find names that weren't taken yet.

LoL, maybe.

[kane9321]

alaskagate:)

[Gilpesh]

Here is an interesting thought....
(its a thought...not a good one that is)

Lets assume he DID know ALL this...

What does he get from this? I am honestly curious....

To sound like a sexist... loads of attention for picking a woman.

[Raiden]

I just seriously doubt they pointed to Palin and said lets go with her, and no real investigation was done. I mean its possible...I just have a hard time believing it

Well, it is hard to believe that McCain would pick someone who is female and inexperienced, and someone he hardly knew, over other people that he has known for years like Lieberman or even Romney. Plus with all these new info that surfaced regarding Palin, I don't think McCain really did his vetting process but this is more of a desperate and last-minute decision.

[kane9321]

Saying...McCain didnt do his homework..is the understatment of all time...Its great:)

[jaguarr]

Well, it is hard to believe that McCain would pick someone who is female and inexperienced, and someone he hardly knew, over other people that he has known for years like Lieberman or even Romney. Plus with all these new info that surfaced regarding Palin, I don't think McCain really did his vetting process but this is more of a desperate and last-minute decision.

If he wanted to bring a qualified woman on board, Snow or Hutchinson would have been much, much, much better choices.

jag

[Excel]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=410261272

Bristols baby daddy has a mullet n supports Obama :lmao:

[bell110]

Here is an interesting thought....
(its a thought...not a good one that is)

Lets assume he DID know ALL this...

What does he get from this? I am honestly curious....

I honestly think he did it to get the Hilary vote.

[souvlaki]

I honestly think he did it to get the Hilary vote.

Well, that wasn't a very brilliant move on his part.

[jaguarr]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=410261272

Bristols baby daddy has a mullet n supports Obama :lmao:

That looks like a brand new page someone set up as a joke.

jag

[Lightning Strykez!]

Her judgment of getting on that plane to make a 12 hour trip (including the drive) from Texas to Alaska and that small town, bypassing so many places with NICU in the process, AFTER her water broke to deliver a premature, high risk Downs Syndrome baby at the age of 44 is poor judgment period.

I didn't know that!! :eek: Are you serious?

[SuBe]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=410261272

Bristols baby daddy has a mullet n supports Obama :lmao:
:wow:, that can't be real.

[Shifty]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=410261272

Bristols baby daddy has a mullet n supports Obama :lmao:

Children: I don't want kids

Yeah its a joke

[jaguarr]

I didn't know that!! :eek: Are you serious?

Dead serious. And it was a commercial flight, too, where the flight crew said she showed no signs of discomfort or stress....after her water had broken. :dry:

http://www.politicalbase.com/profile/jnail/blog/&blogId=3422

jag

[souvlaki]

from washingtonindependent.com


Vetting?

By Laura McGann 9/2/08 1:16 PM

ANCHORAGE — I just got off the phone with the very helpful city clerk at the Wasilla City Clerk’s office, Kristie Smithers, who is pulling some documents for me from when Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor.

I told her I appreciated her help, since I’m sure she’s been bombarded with requests these last few weeks. The clerk’s office keeps all City Council meeting agendas, minutes, legislation, ordinances, etc. She chuckled. Then she told me that I’m the first person who has asked her office for anything.

[Lightning Strykez!]

^ That's amazing.

[Malice]

from washingtonindependent.com


Vetting?

By Laura McGann 9/2/08 1:16 PM

ANCHORAGE — I just got off the phone with the very helpful city clerk at the Wasilla City Clerk’s office, Kristie Smithers, who is pulling some documents for me from when Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor.

I told her I appreciated her help, since I’m sure she’s been bombarded with requests these last few weeks. The clerk’s office keeps all City Council meeting agendas, minutes, legislation, ordinances, etc. She chuckled. Then she told me that I’m the first person who has asked her office for anything.

wow...

[X Knight]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=410261272

Bristols baby daddy has a mullet n supports Obama :lmao:

He also DOESN'T WANT KIDS!!!! :wow:

If that is true......if that is not a "joke account" ( notice he only has 3 friends )....then he represents the kind of young man that I absolutely have NO RESPECT for.....

If you don't want kids.....you don't go F*** around without the proper precautions and get a girl pregnant.

Let's see, if this guy is for real, that he grows some bloody balls, owns up to his action, marries the girl, and raised the kid.

If I were the Palin parents.....I'd be pretty F****** p***** at him. I'd have a "long talk" with him......in fact......I might just take him moose hunting......:cwink:

( However, methinks this is a joke account........I mean.....who the f*** has only 3 friends on Myspace?? )

[Lightning Strykez!]

the flight crew said she showed no signs of discomfort or stress....after her water had broken. :dry:

http://www.politicalbase.com/profile/jnail/blog/&blogId=3422

jag



:dry:






Ah...the powers of mutated poosaye. :whatever:

[Gilpesh]

UYYiw_y2qDI

Has anyone seen Tucker Bounds on McCai- I mean Oba- oh wait... Palin. That's Palin they're talking about.

[SuBe]

Now, I am going to Vote for McCain anyways, but, maybe he thought Vetting was something you do when you talk about Vietnam Vets?

[terry78]

Sounds like this guy is an absolute dear of a young man. :rolleyes:



What the hell is this? The Alaskan equivalent of cow-tipping??? :lmao:

Oh, this ***** done ****ed up now. McCain is going to be pissed if he loses because of him.

[jaguarr]

wow...

That's about all that could be said. Some vetting process from the RNC. :dry:

jag

[Malice]

Actually he would have had a trip to the hospital holding what was left with his....thing

[Shifty]

Now this from The Enquirer... but they did break the John Edwards story.

SARAH PALIN AT WAR WITH HER DAUGHTER OVER PREGNANCY & WEDDING

Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin attempted to quietly have her daughter Bristol get married before news of her pregnancy leaked out, the NATIONAL ENQUIRER is reporting exclusively in its new issue.

Palin planned for the wedding to take place right after the Republican National Convention and then she was going to announce the pregnancy.

But Bristol, 17, refused to go along with the plan and that sparked a mother-daughter showdown over the failed coverup.

The ultra-conservative governor’s announcement about her daughter’s pregnancy came hours after The ENQUIRER informed her representatives and family members of Levi Johnston, the father of Bristol’s child, that we were aware of the pregnancy and were going to break the news.

In a preemptive strike Palin released the news, creating political shockwaves.

The ENQUIRER has also learned that Palin’s family is embroiled in a vicious war that is now exposing her darkest secrets, threatening to destroy her political career.

Palin’s ongoing war with her ex brother-in-law Mike Wooten, a state trooper, has caused multiple sources to come forward with shocking allegations about the governor.

Details of those allegations, the family feud, and Palin’s attempt to cover up her teen daughter’s pregnancy are in the new issue of The ENQUIRER.

[jaguarr]

Now, I am going to Vote for McCain anyways, but, maybe he thought Vetting was something you do when you talk about Vietnam Vets?

I'm thinking McCain HAD to think Vetting had something to do with an animal doctor because his VP pick has turned out to be quite the dog! :hehe:

jag

[Lightning Strykez!]

This is funny....

Proud to be a redneck: The teenager expecting a baby with Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter
By David Gardner and David Jones
Last updated at 2:43 PM on 02nd September 2008

The teenager expecting a baby with the 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin calls himself 'a f***ing redneck' on his MySpace page.

On the page he also says: 'But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s*** and just chillin' I guess'


He added: 'Ya f *** with me I'll kick [your] ***'

Sounds like this guy is an absolute dear of a young man. :rolleyes:


Johnston has also been in trouble with the law, for taking king salmon from a lake out of season.



What the hell is this? The Alaskan equivalent of cow-tipping??? :lmao:

[Shifty]

He also DOESN'T WANT KIDS!!!! :wow:

If that is true......if that is not a "joke account" ( notice he only has 3 friends )....then he represents the kind of young man that I absolutely have NO RESPECT for.....

If you don't want kids.....you don't go F*** around without the proper precautions and get a girl pregnant.

Let's see, if this guy is for real, that he grows some bloody balls, owns up to his action, marries the girl, and raised the kid.

If I were the Palin parents.....I'd be pretty F****** p***** at him. I'd have a "long talk" with him......in fact......I might just take him moose hunting......:cwink:

( However, methinks this is a joke account........I mean.....who the f*** has only 3 friends on Myspace?? )

You would want her to marry that loser? She would be better off with someone else.

[jaguarr]

Now this from The Enquirer... but they did break the John Edwards story.


I don't believe anything that comes out of The Enquirer. They are NOT a credible news source.

jag

[SuBe]

I'm thinking McCain HAD to think Vetting had something to do with an animal doctor because his VP pick has turned out to be quite the dog! :hehe:

jag
I liked mine better :dry:







:hehe:

[X Knight]

You would want her to marry that loser? She would be better off with someone else.

No...I wouldn't.......that's why I said I would take him moose hunting......:cwink: :o

[SuBe]

No...I wouldn't.......that's why I said I would take him moose hunting......:cwink: :o
You never know what Cheney might be doing this weekend. :hehe:

[terry78]

It's Britney and Kevin all over again.

[Gilpesh]

McCain may have tried to show he wasn't Bush... so he picked a female version to be his VP...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

[Shifty]

No...I wouldn't.......that's why I said I would take him moose hunting......:cwink: :o

Careful he's a redneck. He kicks ass.

[jaguarr]

McCain may have tried to show he wasn't Bush... so he picked a female version to be his VP...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

Now, wait a minute, here. She said this in a speech in June:

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

But in July or August (can't remember which but the video of it has been posted countless times in here), when asked about the Iraq war, she said she hadn't thought much about it at all. WTF?

jag

[jaguarr]

McCain may have tried to show he wasn't Bush... so he picked a female version to be his VP...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

Even more fun stuff from that article:

But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that position of war mode."

There's more in there. Much, much more. Damn, hell of a find, Gilpesh.

jag

[X Knight]

Careful he's a redneck. He kicks ass.

He ain't kickin my ass. If I had a daughter, and a guy like that knocked her up........I'll kick his ass before we go moose hunting......I'll kick his ass while we are moose hunting.....and I'll kick his ass after we go moose hunting....

needless to say....there will be alot of ass kicking going on.........:word:

and then...for good measure.....I'd lock him in a windowless room and make him watch Catwoman AND Batman + Robin back-to-back........yes.....I am cruel............:hehe:

[Superman]

You know? We've been talking about all these Pailn scandals for days now but except for the baby crap I've heard very little about them on the news networks.

I've got a feeling that the news networks are going to give her a pass just like they've done with McCain.:csad:

[jaguarr]

You know? We've been talking about all these Pailn scandals for days now but except for the baby crap I've heard very little about them on the news networks.

I've got a feeling that the news networks are going to give her a pass just like they've done with McCain.:csad:

I don't think they will. Just wait. Gustav and the RNC Convention have the news channels spread pretty thin. This stuff will come out more and more.

jag

[Malice]

I don't think they will. Just wait. Gustav and the RNC Convention have the news channels spread pretty thin. This stuff will come out more and more.

jag

I agree, Gustav has a monopoly right now...that will change shortly.

[ManofmyWord]

Just saw Wolf Blitzer actually list all the Scandals on CNN.

[Malice]

I KNOW!
McCain caused Gustav to come and has distracted the media away from Palin!

That is it! Its a conspiracy!

[SuBe]

I KNOW!
McCain caused Gustav to come and has distracted the media away from Palin!

That is it! Its a conspiracy!
Well, there were people out there before claiming Katrina was a Government Made hurricane because Bush didn't like Black people. :whatever:

[Superman]

McCain may have tried to show he wasn't Bush... so he picked a female version to be his VP...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.htmlSee this is the kind of stuff I was talking about above. The news networks should be all over this but I'll bet you 10 to 1 that the only one that will mention it will be Olbermann.:csad:

[Malice]

Well, there were people out there before claiming Katrina was a Government Made hurricane because Bush didn't like Black people. :whatever:

You see! its True!

[Gilpesh]

Well, there were people out there before claiming Katrina was a Government Made hurricane because Bush didn't like Black people. :whatever:

Noooo, just Kanye West was saying that. Hah

[Franklin Richards]

I KNOW!
McCain caused Gustav to come and has distracted the media away from Palin!

That is it! Its a conspiracy!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/khaaan_2.jpg


McCAIN!!!



:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Malice]

See this is the kind of stuff I was talking about above. The news networks should be all over this but I'll bet you 10 to 1 that the only one that will mention it will be Olbermann.:csad:

No its all over the place, I have heard it on podcasts...

[SuBe]

Palin Pick Offers Enthusiasm Despite Newly Learned Family Woes
by Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
Monday, September 1, 2008


ST. PAUL — Without even being in the room, Sarah Palin got a standing ovation among the Louisiana delegation at the Republican National Convention Monday — reflecting what many say is the “bounce” in enthusiasm John McCain’s vice presidential pick has brought to the campaign.

Despite what can only be seen as bad news for the campaign on Monday — the Palins announcing that their 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is five months pregnant and Sarah Palin’s husband Todd had gotten a DUI in 1986 — the Alaska governor’s star power was still on the rise.

“Overwhelming excitement” is how Ellen Davis, Louisiana delegate and former Republican state chairwoman, described the reaction to Palin at a breakfast featuring first lady Laura Bush and Cindy McCain.

Davis acknowledged that conservatives were “kind of on the edge of our seats” before McCain announced his choice of running mate. “Once we heard it was Sarah Palin, we were on board, ready to go.”

In the days proceeding the Republican event, headlines suggested that the enthusiasm for McCain and for the convention week were on the wane. But Davis said Palin has infused the campaign with what was missing — excitement for the top of the GOP ticket.

“I think John McCain has his story … he has enthusiasm on a different level,” said Davis. “I think Sarah Palin brought her own level of enthusiasm, her own type of enthusiasm.”

Bush and McCain drew warm applause at the breakfast reception hosted by the Louisiana delegates. Bush’s praise of Palin brought the crowd to its feet.

“I’m so happy because I’m finally going to have a chance to vote for a Republican woman this time,” said the first lady to a standing ovation. “Every woman in this room knows she is truly a superwoman.”

Bush went on to suggest that Palin’s experience as the mayor of the small Alaska town of Wasilla was a plus for her vice presidential prospects, particularly in terms of emergency response and coordinating local, state and federal resources. “That’s experience that no one on either side of the ticket has — and that’s local experience.”

McCain was equally charged in her comments.

“I am extremely proud of his pick for vice president,” McCain said of her husband. The room erupted with applause. Then she picked up on a familiar theme going into the conventions. “She’s a straight talker and a maverick just like my husband — she’s not afraid to say no.”

As news trickled trough the convention about Palin’s family issues, several delegates said the story should remain just that — personal and private. More so, it did not seem to quell their initial reactions to her.

“I think it makes her more human — we all experience those kinds of things,” said Lula Bridges, a delegate from Alabama. “It says to me that she can relate to the general population.”

“I don’t think they were looking for perfection in a candidate,” said Scott Glover, a Florida delegate. “I think we’re looking for a real person, that can relate to us and we can relate to them on some level, and we all have issues of some sort. I don’t want to be judged on what my children do — and I know we all do our best as parents.”

Stu Rothenberg, a Washington, DC pollster who publishes the Rothenberg Political Report tip sheet, said he talked to a number of delegates at the Xcel Center Monday who had heard the news and had rushed to defend her. “They think its private, its personal, everybody’s got things going on in their family. Everybody’s got things going on in their family they’d rather not talk about. I don’t see it as a minus.”

Earlier in the day, delegates at the breakfast used words like “awesome” and “brilliant” to describe Palin. They noted her youth and freshness — qualities that have been assigned to McCain’s opponent Barack Obama, but never to the 72-year-old senator.

The comments suggest that McCain’s decision to opt for a spark with conservative bona fides rather than a white male from a crucial swing state bolstered McCain’s support among the base.

“It’s a full completion of the ticket,” said George Ackel, also from Louisiana.

“This was a clearly the deal closer with all the activist base of the Republican Party and the conservative movement,” said Chris Healy, chairman of the the Connecticut State Republican Party. “Those are the ones who we really do have to capture.”

A recent Gallup Poll taken of voters Aug. 28 through Aug. 30 — including at least two days after the Palin announcement — found that McCain got a 5-point jump from the news. Democratic challenger Barack Obama, fresh out of his own convention, was enjoying an 8 point bounce, leaving the poll at Obama ahead of McCain, 48 to 42 percent.

Aside from the family issues, more serious questions about her policy views are looming — like supporting the teaching of creationism, or intelligent design, alongside evolution in public schools, or her lack of public positions on the war in Iraq, Afghanistan or the Middle East.

And Rothenberg noted that not all independents — another group that McCain has been after — have necessarily reacted the same way as the base of the party.

“I also heard from people that it looks too political, that instead of picking someone with great political bloodlines and credentials, he went with a young woman to try and trump Obama, or do the Hillary thing, and it was just a political pick,” he said, “he put politics before the country — I have heard some of that — not from Republicans, but from some independents.”

Nevertheless, Republicans say they have found a whole new reason to fight in November, and thank McCain for the gift of Sarah Palin.

“It’s really catapulted our energy level to another dimension that I haven’t really felt in a long time,” Healy said.

[souvlaki]

You know? We've been talking about all these Pailn scandals for days now but except for the baby crap I've heard very little about them on the news networks.

I've got a feeling that the news networks are going to give her a pass just like they've done with McCain.:csad:

:huh:

Pretty much every tiny thing we've discussed the last 3 days was just mentioned by Jack Cafferty on CNN five minutes ago. It's definitely getting airplay.

[Malice]

No its all over the place, I have heard it on podcasts...

Just so you know, these are news podcasts, not fly by night ones....

[SuBe]

Noooo, just Kanye West was saying that. Hah
He's a "people", right?

[Gilpesh]

He's a "people", right?

His ego is classified as people... but he's still just a person. :oldrazz:

[SuBe]

His ego is classified as people... but he's still just a person. :oldrazz:
Ok, just checking. :word:

[Shifty]

Betting on a Palin withdrawal
An online prediction market weighs in on whether VP candidate Sarah Palin will be dropped from the Republican ticket.
By Mina Kimes, reporter
Last Updated: September 2, 2008: 4:04 PM EDT

NEW YORK (Fortune) -- Now the Democrats aren't the only ones who can try to capitalize on the negative buzz growing around Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the prospective Republican VP candidate.

Intrade, an online prediction market based in Dublin, created a contract Tuesday morning on the likelihood that John McCain will drop Palin as his running mate. After opening at a probability of just 3%, the odds on Palin being cut from the ticket climbed to 18% around 9 a.m. and have since settled at around 12%.

Intrade is a place for betting enthusiasts to turn a small profit on everything from the latest auction of works by controversial British artist Damien Hirst to Britney Spears' chances of landing in rehab. Contracts on a possible future event are bought and sold by users of the site, like a stock on the NYSE.

Chad Rigetti, Intrade's VP of Business Development, says traders on the site asked Intrade to create the newest market after stories about Palin, including her teenage daughter's pregnancy and her involvement in a group that did corporate fundraising for controversial Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, flooded the news. The pool has been open for less than twelve hours, but has already attracted more than 950 trades.

Placing a Palin withdrawal at even 12% seems bullish; no presidential candidate has withdrawn his VP selection since Thomas Eagleton left Democratic candidate George McGovern's ticket in 1972.

Intrade has demonstrated some success in predicting political choices (forecasting the selection of Biden), but also volatility: The site gave Palin an 60% chance of landing the nomination at 3:17 am ET on Friday - well before the mainstream media started plugging her name - but that number rose and fell consistently until McCain announced the pick in the late afternoon.

Rigetti points out that while some traders are putting Palin on the chopping block, they're still giving her 97% odds in a separate market for the VP nomination. He thinks that many traders are playing both markets, which means they believe a withdrawal won't come until later in the election season.

Intrade monitors its traders' demographics, but it's too early to tell who's betting on a Palin pullout. Some of the naysayers could be Republicans: Rigetti says that, unlike polls, the election markets don't always represent political beliefs. "People have a real money incentive," he says. "They're betting with their head and not their heart." To top of page

Any takers?

[Gilpesh]

A guy on MSNBC just said that Palin may be the future face of the GOP...

How many republicans just shivered without knowing why?

[terry78]

A guy on MSNBC just said that Palin may be the future face of the GOP...

How many republicans just shivered without knowing why?

Somewhere, a banker's 401K just lost 30 grand upon hearing that news.

[Hypestyle]

heh-heh-heh... at least McCain had some sense to pick a MILF as his running mate instead of some way-older crone..

as far as the teen-daughter gets knocked up thing, it's neither here nor there with me-- though I'm wondering if the religi-cons will still throw their support behind her or start carping for her to step down... uh-oh...

so, at last will the prez candidates actually bother to campaign in Alaska now? how many electoral votes do they have?

[Gilpesh]

so, at last will the prez candidates actually bother to campaign in Alaska now? how many electoral votes do they have?

Nope. This hasn't changed a thing. McCain/Palin has it down so they won't visit... and Obama/Biden won't want to waste time and effort to try and change an almost define McCain state (especially after picking Palin).

[Hobgoblin]

so, at last will the prez candidates actually bother to campaign in Alaska now? how many electoral votes do they have?

Thats what I thought when I heard the pick. "Wow, someone paid attention to Alaska? Good for them." :up:

[Tanin]

so, at last will the prez candidates actually bother to campaign in Alaska now? how many electoral votes do they have?

A whole 3

[souvlaki]

The only thing that would make this thread complete is a controversial pastor.

Oh wait...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

[kane9321]

ST. PAUL, Minn. - John McCain's campaign said Tuesday that rival Barack Obama's campaign was spreading "smears" about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's past political affiliations. Yet, some of Palin's previous political activities are a matter of dispute.

At issue are claims by members of the Alaskan Independence Party that Palin was once associated with it. The party, some of whose members have advocated secession from the United States, wants to place all federal lands in Alaska under state control.

The McCain campaign released voter registration documents Tuesday dating to 1990 in which Palin lists herself as a Republican. Campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982, and has never been a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.

Palin addressed the Independence Party's state convention by video earlier this year, welcoming the party to Fairbanks. She gave no indication of a current or past connection to the party.

"Your party plays an important role in our state's politics," she said in the video, which is posted on the party's Web site. "I've always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well."

Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, told ABC News that Palin and her husband, Todd, belonged to the party in 1994. Mark Chryson, chairman of the Independence Party from 1995 to 2002, told the network that Palin attended the party's convention in 1994. He said he was not certain if she was a party member, and party records do not date back that far.

Obama advisers and surrogates have also linked Palin to conservative former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan. An Associated Press story from Alaska, dated July 17, 1999, states that Palin, then the mayor of the small town of Wasilla, was wearing a Buchanan button during a Buchanan visit to Alaska.

The Miami Herald this week quoted an e-mail from Obama Florida spokesman Mark Bubriski that stated: "Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer."

The McCain campaign says Palin supported Steve Forbes' campaign in 1999.

"Supporters of Barack Obama are engaged in an unfortunate and nasty smear campaign," said Rogers, the McCain spokesman.

While Obama advisers and surrogates have drawn attention to Palin's political associations, the campaign has strictly avoided any comment on issues related to Palin's family, specifically anything focused on her 17-year-old daughter's out-of wedlock pregnancy.

"I think people's families are off limits and people's children are especially off limits," Obama said Monday.


ohh soo its obama's fault?

[bunk]

I'm guess news networks are still getting all their ducks in a row before they get serious about the litany of Palin related controversies. I think this stuff will begin to filter out more after the Republican convention.

[The Overlord]

No you missed my point...Lieberman is a moderate...and the right...are...how should I put it...right....
What else can be said?


And you missed my point, the right are going to to pissed if they don't pick someone who believe the world was created in 6 days, but they still vote for the GOP anyway, but that can be a turn off for moderate voters. What's more important?

[Lightning Strykez!]

The only thing that would make this thread complete is a controversial pastor.

Oh wait...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

Aww sooky-sooky-nah!

Here we go! :whatever:

[kainedamo]

I really want to know, is the stuff we're talking about (not the baby stuff) actually getting decent airtime?

I was watching Fox News because its the only damn American news channel I can really get (we have CNN with a British host for some strange reason). I was watching Neil Cavito or whatever his name is talking with Karl Rove. And they were both basically pretending like they had no idea what the controversy was about and only mentioned the pregnant daughter, and proceeded to talk about how great Palin is and how horrible Obama is. Then later he had the Mayer of New York what's his face, and he was doing the same. I just changed the channel out of frustration.

IS the media talking about the juicy stuff we've been talking about in this thread?

The Alaska independence thing.
The progress of the investigation behind her.
The controversy of the vetting process.

I mean, I can't even remember and keep straight in my head all the stuff.

Is it getting decent air time?

[Marx]

The only thing that would make this thread complete is a controversial pastor.

Oh wait...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

:whatever::funny:

Is this ever going to end? Everyday, heck - every hour - something else comes out about her.

[Marx]

I really want to know, is the stuff we're talking about (not the baby stuff) actually getting decent airtime?

I was watching Fox News because its the only damn American news channel I can really get (we have CNN with a British host for some strange reason). I was watching Neil Cavito or whatever his name is talking with Karl Rove. And they were both basically pretending like they had no idea what the controversy was about and only mentioned the pregnant daughter, and proceeded to talk about how great Palin is and how horrible Obama is. Then later he had the Mayer of New York what's his face, and he was doing the same. I just changed the channel out of frustration.

IS the media talking about the juicy stuff we've been talking about in this thread?

The Alaska independence thing.
The progress of the investigation behind her.
The controversy of the vetting process.

I mean, I can't even remember and keep straight in my head all the stuff.

Is it getting decent air time?

All of this is being discussed on CNN. That much I do know. FOX News is just defending her on everything that has come out, from what I have seen.

[SuBe]

And you missed my point, the right are going to to pissed if they don't pick someone who believe the world was created in 6 days, but they still vote for the GOP anyway, but that can be a turn off for moderate voters. What's more important?That is not true, and you are Generalizing. I could say the Left will never be happy, even if they give Stalin the Nod, since he wasn't left enough.

[jaguarr]

The only thing that would make this thread complete is a controversial pastor.

Oh wait...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

Yeah, her pastor who preached that anyone who didn't vote for Bush was going to Hell and that Jesus was a god of war. :dry:

jag

[Lightning Strykez!]

"I'm not going tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I'm sorry." Kalnins added: "If every Christian will vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time."

No he didn't...:rolleyes:

Sounds like Jeremiah and Pastor Kalnins have a lot in common. Butt-buddies perhaps?

Months after hinting at possible damnation for Kerry supporters, Kalnins bristled at the treatment President Bush was receiving over the federal government's handling of Hurricane Katrina. "I hate criticisms towards the President," he said, "because it's like criticisms towards the pastor -- it's almost like, it's not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That's what it'll get you."

:dry:

Hmmm.

I still think Jeremiah was on top though.

*reads more*

Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode."

On second thought, scratch that. This is totally a versatile situation. :down

[ManofmyWord]

This is all wayyyy too good to be true. Republician or Democrat, you've got to appreicate good comedy.

[kane9321]

The only thing that would make this thread complete is a controversial pastor.

Oh wait...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

I almost feel sorry for her...oh wait no I dont:hehe:

[kainedamo]

You can't make this stuff up.

I mean, the meat of this stuff is coming from reliable sources... but the sheer volume of it, and the sheer ridiculousness of it makes me doubt all of it.

Everything negative anyone ever had to say about Obama... this lady has it, and she's got it ten times worse, and she's got a little extra to boot.

[jaguarr]

No he didn't...:rolleyes:

Sounds like Jeremiah and Pastor Kalnins have a lot in common. Butt-buddies perhaps?



:dry:

Hmmm.

I still think Jeremiah was on top though.

*reads more*



On second thought, scratch that. This is totally a versatile situation. :down

He sounds like a terrorist jihadist. Seriously. Same mindset. Same goals. Different religion.

jag

[souvlaki]

This is all wayyyy too good to be true. Republician or Democrat, you've got to appreicate good comedy.

It's like John Stewart and Stephen Colbert got together and wrote the script for this election. It's just absurd. The ridiculousness of Palin alone is going to be giving comedians material for the next three months.

[Marx]

It's like John Stewart and Stephen Colbert got together and wrote the script for this election. It's just absurd. The ridiculousness of Palin alone is going to be giving comedians material for the next three months.

As if they didn't already have enough with McCain? :hehe:

[Gilpesh]

It's like John Stewart and Stephen Colbert got together and wrote the script for this election. It's just absurd. The ridiculousness of Palin alone is going to be giving comedians material for the next three months.

No... this is Onion level writing.

[SuperT]

Hey guys, did you hear?!? This election is NOT about the issues!!!!

"This election is not about issues," said Davis. "This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."
- Rick Davis, McCain Campaign Manager

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_manager_this_election_i.html

You have GOT be freak'in kidding me!!!

[jaguarr]

Hey guys, did you hear?!? This election is NOT about the issues!!!!



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_manager_this_election_i.html

You have GOT be freak'in kidding me!!!

Yeah, whatever, Rick. You can say it all you want, but it won't be true.

jag

[kane9321]

sure rick...sure..

[Malice]

I am convinced (granted that may change) that some of this stuff coming out is planted info to discredit her from one person or another...Some from the Dems, some from some enemies she made in the Republican party...

What parts I dont know...just something is...

[Marx]

Hey guys, did you hear?!? This election is NOT about the issues!!!!



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_manager_this_election_i.html

You have GOT be freak'in kidding me!!!

Yeah...ok. This isn't really about the issues... :whatever:

[jaguarr]

Yeah...ok. This isn't really about the issues... :whatever:

Translation:

"We're getting our asses handed to us on the issues. Let's try to make this a popularity contest!"

jag

[Malice]

Translation:

"We're getting our asses handed to us on the issues. Let's try to make this a popularity contest!"

jag

I didnt take it that way...
its ALWAYS a popularity contest...with only a few people voting the issues.

[jaguarr]

I am convinced (granted that may change) that some of this stuff coming out is planted info to discredit her from one person or another...Some from the Dems, some from some enemies she made in the Republican party...

What parts I dont know...just something is...

I don't think it's planted, man. So much of this stuff is documented long before McCain ever chose her as his running mate. The only person running a smear campaign on Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin.

jag

[Gilpesh]

I don't think it's planted, man. So much of this stuff is documented long before McCain ever chose her as his running mate. The only person running a smear campaign on Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin.

jag

Yeah... if the decision is so seat of the pants by McCain as it sounds... there is no way her enemies could have done this in three days. Maybe one or two of the stories is that... but there's like a s**tload out now.

[Hole Shot]

Hey guys, did you hear?!? This election is NOT about the issues!!!!



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_manager_this_election_i.html

You have GOT be freak'in kidding me!!!


There's alot of people that don't know there ******* from their elbow about issues and vote entirely on their perception of the individual running for office.

Our current president is a perfect example. While Gore and Kerry were more articulate and intellectual, Bush still came off as a relateable "everyman" to people while his opponents came off as arrogant elitist stiffs.

Obama is caught in the middle right now because he is/can be a down to earth, personable and likeable human being but he's got a marketing team going way over the top with his presentation. The more he can be in forums where he's standing not much higher than his audience with his sleeves rolled up in conversational style the better for him, in my opinion.


I'm not really finding the flaws in Palin that people against the McCain/Palin ticket are pointing out.

IMO both Palin and Obama are great for American Politics. We finally have people on both sides that didn't come from the same old network, trust funds and power marriages. They're both young and intelligent reformers that came up from nothing that worked and earned their way to their current positions. We need more of that from everybody.

[Marx]

Translation:

"We're getting our asses handed to us on the issues. Let's try to make this a popularity contest!"

jag



They're getting their butts handed to them in popularity too. :oldrazz:

[Hypestyle]

Nope. This hasn't changed a thing. McCain/Palin has it down so they won't visit... and Obama/Biden won't want to waste time and effort to try and change an almost define McCain state (especially after picking Palin).

eheheh-heh-heh-heh-heh... :woot:

I was waiting for the photo-ops with the candidates holding a hunting rifle in caribou country...

anyway... come on.. use Palin's sex appeal.. think outside the box.. an appearance in Maxim can't hurt..

[Excel]

CNN is showing McCain checking Pain out! :lmao:

[The Overlord]

That is not true, and you are Generalizing. I could say the Left will never be happy, even if they give Stalin the Nod, since he wasn't left enough.


Yes, because liberals praise Stalin whenever they can. :whatever: That's not even a good joke. baesides the democratic base is way more moderate then the GOP now, its not like Obama and Biden are communists or something, people aren't complaining that Biden shouldn't have been picked because he doesn't believe historical materialism theory.

Also considering how the base seemed top be mad with the choice of McCain (Coulter, Rush and others seemed to hate him when he was chosen) I don't think I'm far off. The GOP base is never happy, unless they get a total ideologue in place.

[Marx]

CNN is showing McCain checking Pain out! :lmao:

Are they saying he is 'checking her out'? Or are they just showing the clip of the announcement in Dayton?

[Motown Marvel]

“She’s a straight talker and a maverick just like my husband — she’s not afraid to say no.”

sounds like the daughter takes after her mother. :hehe:

[The Overlord]

I am convinced (granted that may change) that some of this stuff coming out is planted info to discredit her from one person or another...Some from the Dems, some from some enemies she made in the Republican party...

What parts I dont know...just something is...

Yeah and the GOP planted the story on Pastor wright.:oldrazz:

Come on that's so conspiracy theory and it doesn't even make sense, she was just picked this Friday, how would the Dems or anyone have she would would have been picked in advance, in order to rig these things against her? How did they make her daughter pregnant, how did they make her inexperienced or do any of this stuff. Come on man, that's not logical, its not supported by the facts.

[Excel]

Are they saying he is 'checking her out'? Or are they just showing the clip of the announcement in Dayton?

They were talking the "youtube hit John McCains wandering eyes, where his eyes seem to take a peek down the backside of his running mate over 10 times"

;) :up:

[Excel]

sounds like the daughter takes after her mother. :hehe:

:lmao:

[Julio Alejandro]

They were talking the "youtube hit John McCains wandering eyes, where his eyes seem to take a peek down the backside of his running mate over 10 times"

;) :up:
I've been noticing that.

[Marx]

They were talking the "youtube hit John McCains wandering eyes, where his eyes seem to take a peek down the backside of his running mate over 10 times"

;) :up:

:hehe:

[Gilpesh]

Rick Davis was MSNBC and said that he couldn't go into details about the vetting process because it is a confidential process...

[ManofmyWord]

Of course he can't go into detail about it...

THERE WAS NO PROCESS.

[jaguarr]

Man, Rick Davis is working overtime on the spin, isn't he? Too bad he's so terrible at it.

jag

[Julio Alejandro]

Nobody's worse than Keith Olberman.

[Superman]

Hey guys, did you hear?!? This election is NOT about the issues!!!!



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_manager_this_election_i.html

You have GOT be freak'in kidding me!!!So it's not about the issues, It's about the candidates? Wow!!!:shock

McCain and his campaign is so out of touch with the Ameraican people it's scary.:eek::down

[bunk]

What are you even talking about?

[Excel]

McCain has now cancelled his Larry King appearance tonight, saying the exchange between Brown and Bounds was "over the line."

[Gilpesh]

McCain has now cancelled his Larry King appearance tonight, saying the exchange between Brown and Bounds was "over the line."

Funny... it looked like she was just trying to get a straight answer from the straight talk express.

[Marx]

McCain has now cancelled his Larry King appearance tonight, saying the exchange between Brown and Bounds was "over the line."

Campbell Brown was doing nothing but trying to get him to answer a question he kept avoiding. THAT IS WHAT JOURNALIST'S SHOULD BE DOING! I guess McCain and company can still get the 'pillow treatment' over at FOX News. :whatever:

[jaguarr]

McCain has now cancelled his Larry King appearance tonight, saying the exchange between Brown and Bounds was "over the line."

Translation: "I don't want to be asked hard questions and be pressed to give straight answers to them." I hope Larry King spends his entire show talking about Troopergate, the Alaska Independence Party or whatever successionist group it's called, and has expert Gyn/Ob guests on to talk about the dangers of her trek from Texas to Alaska to have her baby after her water broke.


jag

[Julio Alejandro]

I wish I understood what any of you are talking about.

[Marx]

Translation: "I don't want to be asked hard questions and be pressed to give straight answers to them."

jag

Sad...and cowardly. I expected more from the supposed 'Straight Talk Express'. :whatever:http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[Gilpesh]

I wish I understood what any of you are talking about.

UYYiw_y2qDI

That has made McCain run away from Larry King.

[Julio Alejandro]

Whatever

[Gilpesh]

Whatever

He now sees that he isn't going to get the softball treatment from CNN... and now has canceled a CNN interview with Larry King where even regular people can call in and ask questions...

[Julio Alejandro]

And Obama doesn't take the soft route? Please. The only time Obama accepted an invitation to a difficult forum was the one with Rick Warren.

[Gilpesh]

And Obama doesn't take the soft route? Please. The only time Obama accepted an invitation to a difficult forum was the one with Rick Warren.

:whatever:

Thanks for pulling a Tucker Bounds

[Julio Alejandro]

Who the **** is Tucker Bounds? Nobody cares about him. McCain supporters don't care about him.

[Marx]

McCain has now cancelled his Larry King appearance tonight, saying the exchange between Brown and Bounds was "over the line."

Funny... it looked like she was just trying to get a straight answer from the straight talk express.

Translation: "I don't want to be asked hard questions and be pressed to give straight answers to them." I hope Larry King spends his entire show talking about Troopergate, the Alaska Independence Party or whatever successionist group it's called, and has expert Gyn/Ob guests on to talk about the dangers of her trek from Texas to Alaska to have her baby after her water broke.


jag

I am reminded of this...

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[jaguarr]

I am reminded of this...

GqwFnyxu-OA

LOL! Well, he did act like a jackass in that interview.

jag

[Gilpesh]

Who the **** is Tucker Bounds? Nobody cares about him. McCain supporters don't care about him.

Dude.... really?

He's from McCain's CAMPAIGN. Did I really have to inform you of that? :whatever:

[danoyse]

UYYiw_y2qDI

That has made McCain run away from Larry King.

Well, the nerve of CNN...expecting a simple answer to a question.

I love it, now she has military command experience as head of the Alaska National Guard--even though they won't say what she actually does in that job.

I mentioned this earlier, but my sister was talking to her best friend this weekend. Her friend's husband is in Iraq, and among her circle of army-wife friends, they found out that Palin actually revealed in an interview when and where her son was being deployed. That's a HUGE mistake. You don't reveal that kind of stuff.

So they're livid with her. And it's a little scary knowing she doesn't understand she can't do stuff like that.

[Julio Alejandro]

Dude.... really?

He's from McCain's CAMPAIGN. Did I really have to inform you of that? :whatever:
That's why I said McCain supporters don't care about him.

[jaguarr]

That's why I said McCain supporters don't care about him.

That...doesn't even make sense. :huh:

jag

[Gilpesh]

That's why I said McCain supporters don't care about him.

He speaks for John McCain... and McCain just canceled an appearance on CNN because... THEY ASKED A QUESTION.

[danoyse]

That's why I said McCain supporters don't care about him.

I'm pretty sure McCain might...

[kainedamo]

That...doesn't even make sense. :huh:

jag

Don't you see, jag? The guy works for the McCain campagin... so McCain supporters don't care about him.


:huh:

[Matt]

UYYiw_y2qDI

That has made McCain run away from Larry King.

"Surely you don't mean to belittle her decisions as commander-in-chief of the Alaska National Guard."

"I just want to know one decision, I'm not belittling anything, I just want to know."

"Every decision she's made about equipping and deploying..."

"But those are the Pentagon's decisions, General Patraeus, the White House. No governor makes decisions about equipping or deploying troops to Iraq."

This is getting slightly embarrassing...He should've selecting Romney and played the economic card.

[kainedamo]

"Surely you don't mean to belittle her decisions as commander-in-chief of the Alaska National Guard."

"I just want to know one decision, I'm not belittling anything, I just want to know."

"Every decision she's made about equipping and deploying..."

"But those are the Pentagon's decisions, General Patraeus, the White House. No governor makes decisions about equipping or deploying troops to Iraq."

This is getting slightly embarrassing...He should've selecting Romney and played the economic card.

What was he thinking, trying to stretch it to make it seem like Palin has military experience?

[danoyse]

What was he thinking, trying to stretch it to make it seem like Palin has military experience?

Because it goes nicely with her foreign policy experience. You know, being so close to Russia and all...

[redfirebird2008]

"Surely you don't mean to belittle her decisions as commander-in-chief of the Alaska National Guard."

"I just want to know one decision, I'm not belittling anything, I just want to know."

"Every decision she's made about equipping and deploying..."

"But those are the Pentagon's decisions, General Patraeus, the White House. No governor makes decisions about equipping or deploying troops to Iraq."

This is getting slightly embarrassing...He should've selecting Romney and played the economic card.

The surrogates for McCain's campaign make Bush's '04 group of surrogates look like geniuses. As George Carlin would say, "***** Tucker. Tucker sucks."

[jaguarr]

What was he thinking, trying to stretch it to make it seem like Palin has military experience?

Either he was clueless about troop deployment and the involvement of the Governor position or he thought Brown didn't know and was trying to bull***** his way through it. Either way, it blew up in his face and he looked like an idiot for it.

jag

[Shifty]

"**** Tucker. Tucker sucks." - George Carlin

[kainedamo]

Either he was clueless about troop deployment and the involvement of the Governor position or he thought Brown didn't know and was trying to bull***** his way through it. Either way, it blew up in his face and he looked like an idiot for it.

jag

The host, what was her name? It was very sharp of her to immediately realise what he was saying was wrong and call him out on it.

[ManofmyWord]

Campbell Brown.

I love watching that vid. He looks so awkward.

[jaguarr]

The host, what was her name? It was very sharp of her to immediately realise what he was saying was wrong and call him out on it.

Campbell Brown. She has Tucker Bounds' testicles in a jar on her desk.

jag

[Matt]

I can't remember the last time a VP nominee got this much crap. Can she be pulled after tomorrow? Once officially nominated, can McCain change his mind?

[Arc-Light]

I can't remember the last time a VP nominee got this much crap. Can she be pulled after tomorrow? Once officially nominated, can McCain change his mind?

Oh that would be EPIC..............

[Gilpesh]

I can't remember the last time a VP nominee got this much crap. Can she be pulled after tomorrow? Once officially nominated, can McCain change his mind?

She could be privately asked to step down... Then you'd see her have a press conference where she talks that she need to step down to take care of family or something else like that...

[jaguarr]

She could be privately asked to step down... Then you'd see her have a press conference where she talks that she need to step down to take care of family or something else like that...

The media would never buy it. McCain's judgment has irreparably been brought into doubt with this maneuver. No matter what he does now, it will only get worse.

jag

[Julio Alejandro]

He speaks for John McCain... and McCain just canceled an appearance on CNN because... THEY ASKED A QUESTION.
Both candidates don't have the capacity to run this country anyway.

[jaguarr]

Both candidates don't have the capacity to run this country anyway.

Both McCain and Palin? I agree with you. :hehe:

jag

[Julio Alejandro]

Both McCain and Obama.

[Arc-Light]

Both candidates don't have the capacity to run this country anyway.

How can you say a such a thing when neither have been POTUS.

[kainedamo]

Both McCain and Obama.

You make a convincing argument :whatever:

[Julio Alejandro]

McCain is a megalomaniac, and Obama is just an overblown inspirational speaker.

[ManofmyWord]

Ah. I'm glad to see Jag's sarcasm doesn't get past you.

[Hole Shot]

I can't remember the last time a VP nominee got this much crap. Can she be pulled after tomorrow? Once officially nominated, can McCain change his mind?

You have to remember 90% of the time the VP already got beat up in the primary by his running mate when they were running against eachother in the primaries. And the VP is usually a yawn fest meant to "carry the south" or whatever. We haven't had a VP pick that has generated this much dialogue because it was an outside the box pick no one expected. So yeah, right after the DNC going into the RNC two months out from the election, we're going to get a drink from a firehouse in terms of information negative or positive about Palin.

[Julio Alejandro]

Hahaha

[jaguarr]

McCain is a megalomaniac, and Obama is just an overblown inspirational speaker.

I have a psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power or omnipotence? Ummm....kay. You sure you picked the right word off of your Word Of The Day calendar? :huh:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

This is funny
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[Julio Alejandro]

I have a psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power or omnipotence? Ummm....kay. You sure you picked the right word off of your Word Of The Day calendar? :huh:

jag
It's the truth.

[ManofmyWord]

Truth According to....

Who exactly?

[jaguarr]

It's the truth.

Okay. Got any money to contribute to my growing personal fortune?

jag

[Julio Alejandro]

Hahaha

[Raiden]

It's the truth.

I'm glad we now use opinions as facts around here.

[Hole Shot]

I'm glad we now use opinions as facts around here.

Would you expect anything less, we're comic book movie fanboys on an internet message board. If it's fact that Crispin Glover is the only person that can play the Joker what do you think is going to happen in the threads debating politics?

[Julio Alejandro]

Lmao!

[bunk]

So basically, Tucker Bounds = Mr. Mackey?

[jaguarr]

Well, Palin found another way to make her own teenage daughter's pregnancy policy poignant:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html?hpid=artslot

Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms


Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin wrote in her line-item veto changes by hand in this copy of a 2008 spending bill obtained by The Washington Post.

By Paul Kane
ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.

After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.

According to Passage House's web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families."

Palin's own daughter, Bristol, is five months pregnant and has plans to wed.

"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," Palin said in a statement released by the McCain campaign. "We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy, as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."

Earlier today the Associated Press reported that Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, opposed funding to prevent teen pregnancies, a position that Palin also took as governor. "The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," she wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates.

Reporters asked McCain in November 2007 whether he supported grants for sex education in the United States, whether such programs should include directions for using contraceptives and whether he supports President Bush's policy of promoting abstinence.

"Ahhh, I think I support the president's policy," McCain said.

And look, there's McCain just falling right in line with Bush.

jag

[danoyse]

I'm hearing that Bill O'Reilly was shocked, SHOCKED that anyone would be making an issue about Bristol Palin's pregnancy.

This is coming from the man who called Jamie Lynn Spears "a pinhead" when her pregnancy was announced.

[Julio Alejandro]

Bill O'Reilly is a pinhead his damn self!

[jaguarr]

I'm hearing that Bill O'Reilly was shocked, SHOCKED that anyone would be making an issue about Bristol Palin's pregnancy.

This is coming from the man who called Jamie Lynn Spears "a pinhead" when her pregnancy was announced.

Then Bill O'Reilly is officially and completely out of touch with America's political scene and should resign right now.

jag

[Marx]

Then Bill O'Reilly is officially and completely out of touch with America's political scene and should resign right now.

jag

Was Bill O' Reilly ever IN TOUCH with America's political scene??? Did I miss something? :huh:

[Julio Alejandro]

Yeah. We're talking about the same guy that says if you're a conservative, you can't go past the confines of conservatism.

[danoyse]

Was Bill O' Reilly ever IN TOUCH with America's political scene??? Did I miss something? :huh:

It's something I'm starting to notice over the last day or so...it seems people are now starting to criticize the conservative groups for praising Palin's daughter because the level of hypocrisy here is so outrageous.

[jaguarr]

Was Bill O' Reilly ever IN TOUCH with America's political scene??? Did I miss something? :huh:

Well, point taken. But, still...even for Bill, that's pretty damn stupid to say.

jag

[Malice]

Frankly, the way they are treating Palin is apalling...

[jaguarr]

Frankly, the way they are treating Palin is apalling...

The way who's treating her?

jag

[Julio Alejandro]

The liberal media I suppose.

[kainedamo]

Yeah, damn that liberal media. Always reporting inconvenient stuff.

[Julio Alejandro]

They are scum.:oldrazz:

[Malice]

The media seems to me being overly critical of her choice to run.
Basically stating she cant be a mother and VP..

I find that unacceptable, there is a father there as well.

[Julio Alejandro]

That I agree with.

[jaguarr]

The media seems to me being overly critical of her choice to run.
Basically stating she cant be a mother and VP..

I find that unacceptable, there is a father there as well.

With a five month old special needs infant, it was bound to come up. It's something that concerns me, too. Not that she can't have a career and a family, but that her family may not be coming first to be honest. Infants have different needs from older kids. And her trotting her daughter and her boyfriend out front and center, along with the baby, at the RNC Convention isn't doing much to help her with that stigma a lot of people are seeing her with.

jag

[Julio Alejandro]

Well, like I said, they're all flawed.

[Malice]

She is a Governor....and a Highly successful one....leave the motherhood aspect out of it.
I tell you, I think that will so piss off so many people it might backfire.

I have personally talked to 5 friends that do NOT think the same politically as me and they are absolutely pissed....4 women and 1 man. I think that sort of attack is going to backfire...
Just my 2 cents.

[Julio Alejandro]

You're right, and from what I've heard on talk radio, it seems others agree.

[ManofmyWord]

I'm watching the RNC right now and it seems everyone they ask can only say "She's tough, she's a reformer, blah, blah, Tough, blah blah, reform" It's been like that for the last hour.

[bunk]

They're going to be repeating the whole "Palin has made more executive decisions than Obama" concept as much as possible.

[Julio Alejandro]

Yeah, 'cause the Democrats neeeeeeeeeeever repeat themselves.:whatever:

[Gilpesh]

They're going to be repeating the whole "Palin has made more executive decisions than Obama" concept as much as possible.

And leave out the politics as usual move she made regarding her ex-brother-in-law...

[kainedamo]

They're going to be repeating the whole "Palin has made more executive decisions than Obama" concept as much as possible.

They should stay away from mentioning military experience. Executive experience, at a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge stretch they can get away with that with a lot of people. But not military experience.

[danoyse]

The media seems to me being overly critical of her choice to run.
Basically stating she cant be a mother and VP..

I find that unacceptable, there is a father there as well.

It's a lot of things...the sensational part of it being the whole situation with her daughter. But there's also a lot coming out now about mistakes in McCain's vetting process (what there was of it). She's has so many skeletons coming out her closet now that I can't keep track them anymore.

It's just becoming more and more clear that they didn't research this pick enough. I'll bet if they could do this over again she wouldn't even have made the short list.

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm watching the RNC right now and it seems everyone they ask can only say "She's tough, she's a reformer, blah, blah, Tough, blah blah, reform" It's been like that for the last hour.The RNC is pretty lackluster, but they are fighting a lot of uphill battles right now. Sarah Palin pretty much silenced the experience theme they've been running with for months now, so they are being forced at the moment to come up with a new message. Some say reform, but I doubt they can really tout this message in the face of the Obama, who basically has cornered the change message.

[Julio Alejandro]

This RNC is boring the hell out of me.

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, they need to uh...fix that.

[kainedamo]

Palin versus the Museum
Mayor Palin cut a local museum's budget, forcing layoffs

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008/09/palin_versus_the_museum.html

Palin faces questions this month in ethics inquiry, says lawmaker

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/02/palin.investigation/?iref=mpstoryview

[bunk]

It's a lot of things...the sensational part of it being the whole situation with her daughter. But there's also a lot coming out now about mistakes in McCain's vetting process (what there was of it). She's has so many skeletons coming out her closet now that I can't keep track them anymore.

It's just becoming more and more clear that they didn't research this pick enough. I'll bet if they could do this over again she wouldn't even have made the short list.


She amassing a Skeleton Army!! Mwah ha ha ha!!

I just pictured Army of Darkness.

[Gilpesh]

She amassing a Skeleton Army!! Mwah ha ha ha!!

I just pictured Army of Darkness.

Bruce Campbell for President of the United States.

[Marx]

This RNC is boring the hell out of me.

I'm switching it back and forth between other shows right now...I just can't take it. The convention appears to be HALF full, at best, and all of the speakers are snoozers. The RNC is SEVERELY lacking...