The Sarah Palin Thread (You can see Russia from this thread)

[french joker]

Palin is definitely the best candidate (http://michaelpalinforpresident.com/) :up:

[Ahura Mazda]

That is funny...and well done

[Yerzrinot]

For the record if she ever became president I'd move to Canada.

watch?v=Jve3CJyh5SI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jve3CJyh5SI

[Superman]

For the record if she ever became president I'd move to Canada.

watch?v=Jve3CJyh5SI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jve3CJyh5SIIt didn't work.

Here you go...

Jve3CJyh5SI
:yay:

[Superman]

Next time any Right Winger brings up Rev. Wright, I'm just going to post this video of Palin's Witchhunter Preacher and tell them to shut the hell up.:meanie:

kj-on3kfWuE

[Kelly]

Great debate.....

[Schlosser85]

Her church is creepy.

[jaguarr]

Oh, man. Colbert was on fire last night. When he was doing his show opener, one of his lines was "Tonight! Sarah Palin is in New York. I hear she can see the Russian Tea Room from her hotel!" :lmao: Is the Russian Tea Room even still open? I haven't been to NYC in five years, now, so I have no idea if it is or not. At any rate, I don't want to spoil his show from last night for anyone who didn't watch, but that line was classic.

jag

[danoyse]

The Russian Tea Room closed a few years ago. Although I wouldn't be surprised if someone mentioned it to Sarah Palin and she claimed she could see it from Alaska. :oldrazz:

[jaguarr]

The Russian Tea Room closed a few years ago. Although I wouldn't be surprised if someone mentioned it to Sarah Palin and she claimed she could see it from Alaska. :oldrazz:

Thanks. I'll let my wife know that it's closed (she's a NYC native). She used to love that place, so she'll be bummed.

jag

[Lightning Strykez!]

I think I'm done with Palin's interviews. Listening to her string together these long run-on sentences of talking points that go absolutely nowhere makes me cringe. I'm actually starting to pity her.

I'm with you on that. I can't watch them anymore.

The girl's a mess. :dry:

[danoyse]

This is hilarious:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-onthemedia26-2008sep26,0,3542588.story


Palin talks to Couric -- and if she's lucky, few are listening

The financial crisis has an upside for the Republican vice presidential candidate: It takes the spotlight away as she begins answering more pointed questions from the media.

By JAMES RAINEY, ON THE MEDIA
September 26, 2008

A global financial crisis and a not-quite-suspended presidential campaign dominated newspaper front pages and television reports over the last couple of days.

Bad news for America. But good news for Sarah Palin.

The economic crisis and John McCain's surprising response have drawn attention away from the Republican vice presidential nominee just as she has started to answer more pointed questions from the media.

Her third nationally televised interview, with CBS anchor Katie Couric, found Palin rambling, marginally responsive and even more adrift than during her network debut with ABC’s Charles Gibson.

In a 40-minute session with Couric that aired Wednesday and Thursday nights, the Alaska governor defended her puzzling claim that geographic proximity makes her some sort of expert on Russia; went nearly blank when queried about McCain's achievements as a big-business regulator; agreed America "may find itself" on the road to another Great Depression; and, promoting a troop surge in Afghanistan, casually suggested that it "will lead us to victory there, as it has proven to have done in Iraq."

The last statement couldn't help but conjure an image from 2003 -- President Bush beaming in that green flight suit before the infamous "Mission Accomplished" banner.

Palin's unblinking certitude gave way at other times in the interview to a striking imprecision, as when she struggled to respond to Couric's suggestion that the $700-billion bailout might be better funneled through middle-class families instead of Wall Street firms.

"That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this position that we have been put in . . ." Palin began, before meandering off in fruitless pursuit of coherence.

But I'll let the governor speak for herself:

" . . . where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh -- it's got to be all about job creation too. Shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, um, scary thing, but 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We've got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that."

That mind-bender prompted Couric to muse, almost charitably, on "The Early Show" that Palin is "not always responsive when asked questions, and sometimes does slip back to her talking points."

It didn't go much better for Palin when she tried to clarify the mystery of what her state's proximity to Russia has taught her about that nation. Anyone south of the Arctic Circle would have seen this question coming and had a ready answer. But seemingly not the governor.

"We have trade missions back and forth," Palin told Couric. "We, we do, it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America, where, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to, to our state."

Certainly, Russia's prime minister, Vladimir Putin, has demonstrated his willingness to invade its small neighbors. But have I missed news of recent provocations by Russian bombers over Kiwalik or Aleknagik? And if Palin has been intensely interested in her neighbor across the Bering Strait, that also has escaped the reporters who follow her most closely.

In fact, a veteran reporter from her home state, Hal Bernton, reported in the Seattle Times this month how Russian politicians had sought more contact with Palin, but in vain. The governor cut funding and her office's participation, it seems, in the Northern Forum, which promotes relations between regional governments in the Northern Hemisphere.

A Palin spokeswoman e-mailed that she would provide more detail about Palin's trade activities with the Russkies. No word by deadline.

But wait. Certainly the issue dominating the news would provide the governor with a respite from these maddening demands for, you know, facts.

With McCain now depicting himself as the doctor ready to deliver tough medicine to Wall Street, Couric asked Palin to explain what measures he had pushed in the past.

Palin raised McCain's support of revamped oversight for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two mortgage giants that are on life support. Fine.

But when the network anchor pressed for other examples, given that the Republican has been in Congress for nearly three decades, Palin came up blank.

"I'll try to find some" -- Palin smiled at Couric -- "and bring them to you."

Palin at least kept her answers shorter during a Q&A with reporters Thursday morning, her first such session since McCain unleashed her on the national scene four weeks ago.

Although she didn't really answer two of the four questions, many Americans won't hold that against her. They see someone who understands what it's like in a small town.

Common sense has its value, and commentaries like this one, suggesting Palin's shortcomings, will only confirm to her fans that she is not a pet of the media elite. But it seems only sensible to wonder whether charm and pluck will be enough the next time Putin rears his head.

[Carcharodon]

It's like she had memorized pre-written responses for a non-scripted interview. Regardless of whether or not it actually answered a question, it feels as though she just had to get out a few pre-determined talking points. Case in point:

". . . where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh -- it's got to be all about job creation too."

Almost forget that last part, Sarah? Had to add it in there?

I mean JESUS. Add that to her run-on sentences and the fact that her voice was quivering and wavering like a nine year old at a recital, it was just obvious that she was completely taken off-guard by those of Couric's questions that seemed to be at odds with her clasically rehearsed script.

Un. Be. Lievable.

[Raiden]

It's like she had memorized pre-written responses for a non-scripted interview. Regardless of whether or not it actually answered a question, it feels as though she just had to get out a few pre-determined talking points. Case in point:

"". . . where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh -- it's got to be all about job creation too."

Almost forget that last part, Sarah? Had to add it in there?

I mean JESUS. Add that to her run-on sentences and the fact that her voice was quivering and wavering like a nine year old at a recital, it was just obvious that she was completely taken off-guard by those of Couric's questions that seemed to be at odds with her clasically rehearsed script.

Un. Be. Lievable.

Too bad many of her supporters don't care if she is clueless or not. They'd probably just argue that her deer-in-a-headlight responses to Couric's questions mean that she's a Washington outsider, nevermind the fact that as veep, she'd be a heartbeat away from presidency (and with McCain's heart problems, she'd literally be a heartbeat away).

[danoyse]

I read response from a supporter that Katie Couric was mean to her. No joke. What is wrong with these people? :whatever:

[Marx]

I read response from a supporter that Katie Couric was mean to her. No joke. What is wrong with these people? :whatever:

Couric is a sexist and part of the liberal 'elite media'. She, and every other person who dares to criticize the governor of the great state of Alaaska. :whatever:

[chaseter]

After McCain choose Palin as his VP...he sealed the deal for me. Sealed the deal for me not to vote for his dumb ***. She is no where suited to run this country.

[Marx]

CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR SAYS 'PALIN SHOULD STEP DOWN'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/palin-should-step-down-conservative-commentator-says/





(Parker also goes on to say that 'if BS were a currency, Palin could bailout Wall Street herself!' :wow:)

[ShadowBoxing]

He's damn if he does, damned if he doesn't with her. I bet if she did step down Mitt Romney would just be like "f*** you McCain" and leave him hanging.

[jaguarr]

CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR SAYS 'PALIN SHOULD STEP DOWN'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/palin-should-step-down-conservative-commentator-says/





(Parker also goes on to say that 'if BS were a currency, Palin could bailout Wall Street herself!' :wow:)

Oh, boy. The Conservatives are really starting to turn on her, now. No way she can step down at this point without doing even more damage to McCain. His judgment is already in question over his decision to name her his VP. She's his political "soulmate", isn't she? He wouldn't know what to do without her if that's true. And it would cement that his judgment is terrible (and so is hers). No matter what reason she gave for leaving the ticket, the question will be "Shouldn't both she and John McCain have known that before they put her on the ticket and therefore NOT put her on the ticket in the first place?". It will be seen for what it is; an excuse to replace a poor choice on the ticket with someone else. No one would be fooled. No one.

jag

[Marx]

He's damn if he does, damned if he doesn't with her. I bet if she did step down Mitt Romney would just be like "f*** you McCain" and leave him hanging.

If McCain had chosen Pawlenty or Romney, he wouldn't be having these problems.

[sinewave]

CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR SAYS 'PALIN SHOULD STEP DOWN'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/palin-should-step-down-conservative-commentator-says/





(Parker also goes on to say that 'if BS were a currency, Palin could bailout Wall Street herself!' :wow:)

'bout time! i can't wait for that vp debate.

[Corey]

http://buriedplanet.com/2008/09/26/ohio-farmer-carves-a-likeness-of-sarah-palin-in-his-fields/

[ShadowBoxing]

There are lots of crazies out there Corey.

[sinewave]

http://buriedplanet.com/2008/09/26/ohio-farmer-carves-a-likeness-of-sarah-palin-in-his-fields/

does it say "sarah america" above her? at first i thought it was stink lines. :yay:

[Lightning Strykez!]

CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR SAYS 'PALIN SHOULD STEP DOWN'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/palin-should-step-down-conservative-commentator-says/





(Parker also goes on to say that 'if BS were a currency, Palin could bailout Wall Street herself!' :wow:)

If this woman stepped down it would mark the day I died.

















From laughing my arse off. :lmao:

[Corey]

There are lots of crazies out there Corey.

I did a triple take as I was reading the Press Enterprise this morning at work, and came across that photo.


I haven't felt safe all day.

[sinewave]

I did a triple take as I was reading the Press Enterprise this morning at work, and came across that photo.


I haven't felt safe all day.

at least if those aliens from "signs" were to invade earth, they'd probably laugh their asses off after seeing that and decide we're not worth it.

[The Senator]

Bill Maher OWNED stereotyping African Americans by using the same African American stereotypes to describe Sarah Palin, John McCain and the corporate executives who are expecting the federal government to bail them out.

My favorites included using the stereotype about African Americans popping out babies, when he said that Sarah Palin has spent her life popping out babies and has now passed that filthy habit to her daughter. Classic.

[Gilpesh]

Jman, saw it also, loved it as well. :up:

[danoyse]

I saw it too, it was hilarious.

[Hole Shot]

when he said that Sarah Palin has spent her life popping out babies and has now passed that filthy habit to her daughter. Classic.

What? Maybe I'm taking things out of context here but having children isn't a filthy habit so long as you have the means to support them.

[gap5ewl]

Bill Maher OWNED stereotyping African Americans by using the same African American stereotypes to describe Sarah Palin, John McCain and the corporate executives who are expecting the federal government to bail them out.

My favorites included using the stereotype about African Americans popping out babies, when he said that Sarah Palin has spent her life popping out babies and has now passed that filthy habit to her daughter. Classic.

That was BRILLIANT. I stood up and clapped at the end of that it was just awesome. I need to find it on youtube now.

[danoyse]

What? Maybe I'm taking things out of context here but having children isn't a filthy habit so long as you have the means to support them.

Bill Maher was spoofing ignorant and racist comments about what racists consider 'typical' African American behavior and applying it to white people running for the White House.

[The Senator]

What? Maybe I'm taking things out of context here but having children isn't a filthy habit so long as you have the means to support them.

He was using racial stereotypes, which some on the internet have applied to Obama, in order to describe the white people these racist asses are supporting this election.

[Hole Shot]

Bill Maher was spoofing ignorant and racist comments about what racists consider 'typical' African American behavior and applying it to white people running for the White House.

He was using racial stereotypes, which some on the internet have applied to Obama, in order to describe the white people these racist asses are supporting this election.


Ahhhhhhhhhhh! I get it now.


Carry on.

[Knives]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

She's a dunce!!!

What on God's green earth are they going to do with this woman for the debate? How can they salvage this? Even if they set expectations to al all time low, I think she'll do WORSE then expected! read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/report-mccain-aides-compl_n_129618.html

[jaguarr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

She's a dunce!!!

What on God's green earth are they going to do with this woman for the debate? How can they salvage this? Even if they set expectations to al all time low, I think she'll do WORSE then expected! read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/report-mccain-aides-compl_n_129618.html

I can't say I'm surprised if what's in that Huffington Post link is true. And, I wish Jack Cafferty were a little more clear on how he feels about Palin. :funny:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

She's a dunce!!!

What on God's green earth are they going to do with this woman for the debate? How can they salvage this? Even if they set expectations to al all time low, I think she'll do WORSE then expected! read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/report-mccain-aides-compl_n_129618.html
I love that. Jack Cafferty just got so mad there.:woot:

[Hole Shot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

She's a dunce!!!

What on God's green earth are they going to do with this woman for the debate? How can they salvage this? Even if they set expectations to al all time low, I think she'll do WORSE then expected! read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/report-mccain-aides-compl_n_129618.html


Wow. That was a train wreck.

[jaguarr]

I love that. Jack Cafferty just got so mad there.:woot:

He wasn't just angry, he was also offended and disgusted. I thought he might punch Blitzer when he tried to defend Palin. LOL!

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

He wasn't just angry, he was also offended and disgusted. I thought he might punch Blitzer when he tried to defend Palin. LOL!

jag
I think restraining yourself from punching Blitzer is more of a day to day thing around there. They are all pretty good at it by now.

[Carcharodon]

She is 90% of the reason that I can't seriously consider McCain. I'm not kidding. She's ****ing AWFUL as a VP pick, and I can't believe that there are people out there who seriously want to put her in that position. I have an even HARDER time believing that there are people like lazur who actually WANT to risk her becoming president by default in the next four to eight years.

It boggles the freaking mind. Even if you hate Obama, how can you look at this trainwreck of a VP candidate and consider voting for McCain worth the risk???

I don't get it, I just don't. Cafferty was 100% justified in his reaction.

[Marx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

She's a dunce!!!

What on God's green earth are they going to do with this woman for the debate? How can they salvage this? Even if they set expectations to al all time low, I think she'll do WORSE then expected! read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/report-mccain-aides-compl_n_129618.html

Wow...I hadn't seen that before. Good for Cafferty!

[Hole Shot]

Palin could have been a good national level candidate for Republicans at a different time.

Right now it looks like they called a decent prospect up from AA ball during the heat of pennant race too when the player clearly wasn't ready.

Had she been running during the primary she would have made these type of blunders and she would have grown from them while most of the nation would have forgotten.

Now if McCain loses her career in the national political scene will probably be a footnote in American political history.

[gap5ewl]

So Biden has made the rounds on the news outlets right after the debate. An Palin turned down any offer to appear on TV afterwards...McCain's own Veep candidate refuses to do interviews to defend her running mate's appearence at the first presidential debate. That is absolutely pathetic.

[danoyse]

But I did just hear a rumor that she might appear on SNL tomorrow night. Because that's more important than doing interviews or preparing for a debate.

[DACrowe]

Palin could have been a good national level candidate for Republicans at a different time.

Right now it looks like they called a decent prospect up from AA ball during the heat of pennant race too when the player clearly wasn't ready.

Had she been running during the primary she would have made these type of blunders and she would have grown from them while most of the nation would have forgotten.

Now if McCain loses her career in the national political scene will probably be a footnote in American political history.

Don't be so sure. I wouldn't count her out as Ferarro, yet. Ferarro is smarter (though not that much so), but Palin has one key advantage. Her base is as out-of-touch as she is.

Republicans LOVE her. If McCain loses she could be a serious contender for the 2012 Republican primary. At that time Repubs. will run a hardcore evangelical or at least party-line puppet like Bush again after the "free-thinking Maverick" lost. In which case a 4-year-more-experienced Palin could ride to the top very easily.

[Johann Krauss]

Sarah Palin disney trailer http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

[Manic]

sarah palin disney trailer http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461
ha!

[Raiden]

Don't be so sure. I wouldn't count her out as Ferarro, yet. Ferarro is smarter (though not that much so), but Palin has one key advantage. Her base is as out-of-touch as she is.

Republicans LOVE her. If McCain loses she could be a serious contender for the 2012 Republican primary. At that time Repubs. will run a hardcore evangelical or at least party-line puppet like Bush again after the "free-thinking Maverick" lost. In which case a 4-year-more-experienced Palin could ride to the top very easily.

Yeah, GOP has done it before with W, and surrounded this clueless prez with people like Cheney who control the policies from behind-the-scene. I'm sure they relish a chance to do the same with Palin.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Quick question about Palin for any who choose to partake:

Do you feel that the majority of discerning individuals really view her as a qualified candidate?

I don't care whether you're a Democract, Republican, Independent, or a neutralist; I'd just like your honest opinion. You know, I remember the first time I heard that she was going to be McCain's running mate, I thought to myself, this seems to contrived. To me, it feels like the Republicans are willing to do anything to get back into office, even insult the intelligence of American citizens.

I'm not a democrat or a republican. I just want to know what makes this woman more qualified to be a leader more so than another male or female republican candidate.

Thoughts?

[Superman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

She's a dunce!!!

What on God's green earth are they going to do with this woman for the debate? How can they salvage this? Even if they set expectations to al all time low, I think she'll do WORSE then expected! read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/report-mccain-aides-compl_n_129618.htmlCafferty is right, There is no excuse for anyone who is running to be the VP of the US to be THAT clueless about the issues.


Who wants to bet that Palin drops out of the debate?

[kainedamo]

Cafferty is right, There is no excuse for anyone who is running to be the VP of the US to be THAT clueless about the issues.


Who wants to bet that Palin drops out of the debate?

They're between a rock and a hard place. Palin can't drop out of the ticket or the debate, because if she did the republicans would effectively hand the keys to the Whitehouse to Obama.

But there is a reason they've tried to shield Palin from the media, demonstrated most effectively in her interview with Couric. And there is a reason the McCain campaign struck a deal to make the VP debate more light.

It will be fascinating to see if she can cram enough to hold her own in the debate. But I doubt it.

[Gilpesh]

Do you feel that the majority of discerning individuals really view her as a qualified candidate?

No. Anyone who actually cares understands that she is, at best, a token candidate. That said, the problem is that people like her. LIKE HER. So that somehow justifies voting for McCain and her....

I'd give the American people more credit than that, but you see what they would do with it.

[Superman4ever]

The Swimsuit Years. (http://buzzcuts.uproxx.com/models/3920)

Just throwing it out there.

[Venom'sDad]

The Swimsuit Years. (http://buzzcuts.uproxx.com/models/3920)

:hehe: Oh man.... I can see her answering every complicated question with "World Peace" after looking at that video. :meanie:

[jaguarr]

But I did just hear a rumor that she might appear on SNL tomorrow night. Because that's more important than doing interviews or preparing for a debate.

Whatwhatwhaaaaaat!? :wow:

jag

[jaguarr]

Sarah Palin disney trailer http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

:funny:

jag

[gap5ewl]

But I did just hear a rumor that she might appear on SNL tomorrow night. Because that's more important than doing interviews or preparing for a debate.

I heard Tina Fey was coming back tonight also..that should be interesting.

[Hobgoblin]

Quick question about Palin for any who choose to partake:

Do you feel that the majority of discerning individuals really view her as a qualified candidate?



I dont think the majority of people feel that way, no. Even Laura Bush said not long ago that Palin is inexperienced in terms of foreign policy. Those that support her
1. Are religious conservatives
2. Think the "liberal media" is out to get her
3. Dont really think about her, just want McCain to be President

[The Senator]

Quick question about Palin for any who choose to partake:

Do you feel that the majority of discerning individuals really view her as a qualified candidate?

My answer is no, based on opinion polls.

Of course, we don't vote on qualifications here in America, we vote on whether or not you have a touching background story and a pretty family. People will vote for Palin because she has five kids and eats mooseburgers and is someone they think they can relate to. And now that she's made being able to see foreign countries from the states a foreign policy credential, millions of Americans who can see Canada and Mexico from their homes can now relate to her and can claim that they, too, have foreign policy experience like the great Sarah Palin.

[souvlaki]

And now that she's made being able to see foreign countries from the states a foreign policy credential, millions of Americans who can see Canada and Mexico from their homes can now relate to her and can claim that they, too, have foreign policy experience like the great Sarah Palin.

:lmao:

[Manic]

What gets me about the whole "she can see Russia from her house" thing is that you'd think the governor of Canada would have a lot of experience with the Canadian government that the Republicans could play up.

[BlackLantern]

I wait for the adult entertainment industry to capitalize on this....I can see it now..."Palin gets Polled" "VPIFALOT"

[Hole Shot]

:hehe: Oh man.... I can see her answering every complicated question with "World Peace" after looking at that video. :meanie:


I personally believe U.S. Americans can't read maps because the don't have maps which is why we need to support education in d'Iraq.

[Hole Shot]

What gets me about the whole "she can see Russia from her house" thing is that you'd think the governor of Canada would have a lot of experience with the Canadian government that the Republicans could play up.


I'm sure the Governor of Canadia is well versed in Canadian politics. Maybe even more so than the Mayor or Canada.:woot:

[Franklin Richards]

I wait for the adult entertainment industry to capitalize on this....I can see it now..."Palin gets Polled" "VPIFALOT"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Palin.jpg


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[jaguarr]

I wait for the adult entertainment industry to capitalize on this....I can see it now..."Palin gets Polled" "VPIFALOT"

I've already spotted a film featuring a "Sarah Palin" double on one of the porn torrent sites.

jag

[danoyse]

Whatwhatwhaaaaaat!? :wow:

jag

They're confirming it's not true:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/will-palin-make.html


Campaign Says Palin Won't Make 'SNL' Cameo

September 27, 2008 3:44 PM

ABC News' Imtiyaz Delawala Reports: After a crash course in foreign relations this week in New York, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin may be returning to New York tonight for a crash course in comedy.

Celebrity magazine, OK! Magazine, is reporting that Palin may make a surprise cameo appearance on "Saturday Night Live" tonight, alongside her separated-at-birth look-alike, Tina Fey, who spoofed Palin two weeks ago in the season premiere of the sketch comedy show.

OK! Magazine reported on its Web site on Wednesday that "sources close to the show" said Palin was considering making a surprise cameo on the program, and that Tina Fey would reprise her impersonation of the Republican vice presidential nominee. The magazine also said security for Gov. Palin conducted a walk-through of the Rockefeller Center studio on Wednesday in anticipation of the possible appearance.

Fey, who took home three Emmy awards this week for her work on the NBC sitcom "30 Rock," had previously served as the head writer of "SNL" and co-anchor of the show's "Weekend Update." She had not been known for impersonations before her comedic turn as Palin drew rave reviews.

Palin herself said Fey's impersonation was "hilarious," and said she has previously dressed up as Tina Fey for Halloween. Palin watched the segment live while on a flight after a campaign event in Carson City, Nev., but said she did not have the audio on during the skit.

"I watched with the volume all the way down and I thought it was hilarious, she was spot on," Palin told Fox News' Sean Hannity last week. "Again, I didn't hear a word she said, but the visual was spot on."

Palin has no public events on her schedule in Philadelphia today, where she is based for the weekend as she prepares for her vice presidential debate with Sen. Joe Biden next Thursday. A spokesperson for the McCain-Palin campaign would neither confirm nor deny the OK! Magazine report.

A surprise appearance on "Saturday Night Live" would explain why Palin chose to base herself in Philadelphia for the weekend. Besides being in a battleground state, the short distance between Philadelphia and New York would allow Palin to take a last-minute flight to New York to appear on the program and return back to Philadelphia.

And while most of Palin's family -- husband Todd, daughter Piper and infant son Trig -- returned to Alaska from New York on Wednesday, Palin's teenage daughter Willow has remained with her on the East Coast, perhaps in anticipation of returning to New York to watch her mother's live comedic debut.

Both Sen. John McCain and Sen. Barack Obama have made live cameos on "SNL" in the last year. Sen. Hillary Clinton also secretly flew to New York in March to appear in a well-received skit with "SNL" Clinton impersonator Amy Poehler, who reprised her Clinton impersonation two weeks ago for the segment with Tina Fey.

Obama was scheduled to appear on the season premiere of "SNL" but cancelled due to concerns about Hurricane Ike, which made landfall in Texas that weekend.

Update: A McCain-Palin campaign official confirms that Palin will not appear on "Saturday Night Live" tonight.

[Hole Shot]

But I did just hear a rumor that she might appear on SNL tomorrow night. Because that's more important than doing interviews or preparing for a debate.

You're reaching for anything to bring her down when she's doing enough on her own. Seriously, so what if she appears briefly on a late night show in the media center of the universe? If anything it would probably be beneficial to her in working on her nerves. Which is what I saw in that Couric interview.

[danoyse]

You're reaching for anything to bring her down when she's doing enough on her own. Seriously, so what if she appears briefly on a late night show in the media center of the universe? If anything it would probably be beneficial to her in working on her nerves. Which is what I saw in that Couric interview.

I'm not reaching for anything. If she was doing better, it wouldn't be a big deal at all if she appeared on SNL. Obama has, McCain hosted the show once. If Palin was doing fine, it wouldn't be a big deal.

But her appearing on SNL now with everything that's gone wrong in the past week would be a disaster. All anyone will be saying is how can she do that and not more interviews, or be available after the debate.

And it's not happening, the campaign confirmed it.

[danoyse]

Fareed Zakaria weighs in on Sarah Palin. And it ain't pretty. Here's an excerpt:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/161204/page/1

Can we now admit the obvious? Sarah Palin is utterly unqualified to be vice president. She is a feisty, charismatic politician who has done some good things in Alaska. But she has never spent a day thinking about any important national or international issue, and this is a hell of a time to start. The next administration is going to face a set of challenges unlike any in recent memory. There is an ongoing military operation in Iraq that still costs $10 billion a month, a war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan that is not going well and is not easily fixed. Iran, Russia and Venezuela present tough strategic challenges.

Domestically, the bailout and reform of the financial industry will take years and hundreds of billions of dollars. Health-care costs, unless curtailed, will bankrupt the federal government. Social Security, immigration, collapsing infrastructure and education are all going to get much worse if they are not handled soon.

And the American government is stretched to the limit. Between the Bush tax cuts, homeland-security needs, Iraq, Afghanistan and the bailout, the budget is looking bleak. Plus, within a few years, the retirement of the baby boomers begins with its massive and rising costs (in the trillions).

Obviously these are very serious challenges and constraints. In these times, for John McCain to have chosen this person to be his running mate is fundamentally irresponsible. McCain says that he always puts country first. In this important case, it is simply not true.

[jaguarr]

Funny you posted that Zakaria write-up, danoyse. I was just heading over here to do just that. It is unflinchingly brutal and, sadly, I agree with everything he wrote.

jag

[BlackLantern]

I've already spotted a film featuring a "Sarah Palin" double on one of the porn torrent sites.

jag

Nice...it's not a hard look to duplicate.....Chasey Lain could put her hair up and throw some glasses on and it would be close....

[danoyse]

Funny you posted that Zakaria write-up, danoyse. I was just heading over here to do just that. It is unflinchingly brutal and, sadly, I agree with everything he wrote.

jag

Same here. I was at my parents' house today, and showing them the clips from the Couric interview on YouTube. They were stunned. It's just unbelievable.

[Hobgoblin]

Same here. I was at my parents' house today, and showing them the clips from the Couric interview on YouTube. They were stunned. It's just unbelievable.

Yes it is. I was equally stunned when I read a letter in the local paper today. The author claimed that liberal Hollywood was trying to make Palin look bad, and Charlie Gibson is in on it.

Right, because Gibson made her give those ridiculous answerers.:whatever:

[danoyse]

Yes it is. I was equally stunned when I read a letter in the local paper today. The author claimed that liberal Hollywood was trying to make Palin look bad, and Charlie Gibson is in on it.

Right, because Gibson made her give those ridiculous answerers.:whatever:

I'm waiting for them to start blaming aliens next.

What's amazing is that when Joe Biden made that comment about FDR and the stock market crash this week, I completely admit that was a boneheaded statement. Why can none of them just admit the same thing about her instead of trying to blame everyone else??

[Gilpesh]

Seriously... she failed an interview... WITH NOTE CARDS.

Now, no one should ever treat her with kid gloves. And if anyone sees it as picking on her, screw 'em.

[Hobgoblin]

I'm waiting for them to start blaming aliens next.

What's amazing is that when Joe Biden made that comment about FDR and the stock market crash this week, I completely admit that was a boneheaded statement. Why can none of them just admit the same thing about her instead of trying to blame everyone else??

I know. Its like how conservatives always blame liberals for "hating America." A Republican can do no wrong, I guess.

[souvlaki]

Jesus, someone put this campaign to sleep already. One pathetic gimmick after another:


In an election campaign notable for its surprises, Sarah Palin, the Republican vice- presidential candidate, may be about to spring a new one — the wedding of her pregnant teenage daughter to her ice-hockey-playing fiancé before the November 4 election.

Inside John McCain’s campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby. "It would be fantastic," said a McCain insider. "You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4837644.ece

[gap5ewl]

Jesus, someone put this campaign to sleep already. One pathetic gimmick after another:



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4837644.ece

Awesome idea! Using your child for political gain! What a terrific, new low.

[Gilpesh]

awesome idea! Using your child for political gain! What a terrific, new low.

respect her family's privacy you damn elitist liberal!

[Hobgoblin]

Jesus, someone put this campaign to sleep already. One pathetic gimmick after another:



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4837644.ece

Levi Johnston sounds like a stand up guy. He obviously wasnt thinking when he made that little comment on his MySpace page. "I'm a f***ing redneck. I dont want kids." That'll go over well with voters.

[danoyse]

Levi Johnston sounds like a stand up guy. He obviously wasnt thinking when he made that little comment on his MySpace page. "I'm a f***ing redneck. I dont want kids." That'll go over well with voters.

I would love to have seen what the reaction would have been if that was Chelsea Clinton's boyfriend back when her father was president. If Obama had a pregnant teenaged daughter whose boyfriend wrote a myspace page like that, I'm sure he would have been called a thug.

But seriously, I hope they decided to have a wedding in October. What better way to put "country first" during an economic crisis than to make a huge deal out of the glorious shotgun wedding of their sinking VP candidate's pregnant, teenaged daughter.

It almost writes its own jokes.

[Manic]

Jesus, someone put this campaign to sleep already. One pathetic gimmick after another:



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4837644.ece
Shotgun!
Shoot him 'fore he runs, now
Do the jerk, baby
Do the jerk, now

[danoyse]

Palin is a life-long member of the NRA, you know they'll be plenty of shotguns.

Here's another article:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/1188888,CST-EDT-carol28.article

Struggling hockey mom needs more ice time

Sarah Palin needs to get her mojo back. This Thursday's vice presidential debate against Joe Biden in St. Louis may be her last chance.

Last week was not a good one for John McCain's superstar running mate who has captivated the Republican base and drawn huge crowds.
On Thursday, Palin toured the area in and around Ground Zero in New York. That same day, a gun battle was taking place between U.S. and Pakistani forces on the Afghan border.

As a nation, we barely noticed the gunfight, the one in which our alleged ally, Pakistan, fired on two OH-58 Kiowa helicopters and U.S. and Afghan soldiers on the ground fired back.

Osama bin Laden, on the loose for seven years, is believed to be operating out of a cave somewhere in that area, protected in part by Pakistani security forces.

At the United Nations last week, CBS' Katie Couric and Palin had the following exchange:

Couric: "The United States is deeply unpopular in Pakistan. Do you think the Pakistani government is protecting al-Qaida within its borders?"

Palin: "I don't believe that new President Asif Ali Zardari has that mission at all. But no, the Pakistani people also, they want freedom. They want democratic values to be allowed in their country also. They understand the dangers of terrorists having a stronghold in regions of their country also. And I believe that they, too, want to rid not only their country, but the world, of violent Islamic terrorists."

It actually was one of Palin's better non-answers on foreign policy.

Better, by far, than when Couric gave her a chance to dig herself out of the "I can see Russia from here" hole on whether the Alaska governor knows very much about the rest of the world. Palin only dug the hole deeper.

Couric: "You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?"

Palin: "That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to . . . I don't know, you know . . . reporters."

Couric: "Mocked?"

Palin: "Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah."

Couric: "Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials."

Palin: "Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of."

Palin went on to say there had been trade missions between her state and Russia and how that somehow does something good for national security since Putin has to fly over Alaska to enter U.S. airspace.

Yipes.

Even Palin -- you could see it in her eyes -- knew she was gasping for air.

There is a difference between being smart and being prepared.

To get to be the governor of any state in this nation and to hold sky-high approval ratings as she does with her constituents means Sarah Palin has some smarts.

The McCain camp, in keeping her away from the press for so long has not done her a single favor. You can read briefing books until your eyes cross as a candidate, but it's the hand-to-hand combat of questions asked and questions answered that develops the mental muscles to say what needs to be said and said well.

And after public missteps, it's easy to lose your confidence. Just ask Barack Obama in the aftermath of some not-so-great primary debates.

Or John McCain, who has seen as many valleys and peaks in his political life.

Palin needs to get her game back, assuming she actually has one.

And the McCain camp better figure out how to help before another week passes and it's too late.

[Gilpesh]

YES! Open with the Tina Fey!

[kane9321]

He wasn't just angry, he was also offended and disgusted. I thought he might punch Blitzer when he tried to defend Palin. LOL!

jag

Blitzer..cmon man call it like u see it..dont defend that dunce...thats what got me mad:cmad:

[danoyse]

YES! Open with the Tina Fey!

That was hilarious!!!!!!

I love it when she asked to use a lifeline. :lmao:

[Gilpesh]

That was hilarious!!!!!!

I love it when she asked to use a lifeline. :lmao:

"I'd like to phone a friend." :hehe:

[danoyse]

"I'd like to phone a friend." :hehe:

And Bono, the king of Ireland.

[Gilpesh]

And Bono, the king of Ireland.

I almost fell out of my chair. :csad:

[Marx]

Jesus, someone put this campaign to sleep already. One pathetic gimmick after another:



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4837644.ece

Isn't this the same woman who lashed out at the media saying that her family should be left alone??? She sure seems all to willing to throw them all out there if it will help her in the polls.

Hypocrit. :cmad:

[Marx]

YES! Open with the Tina Fey!

What happened?

[Gilpesh]

What happened?

There was so much... I can't even say it all.

But if you thought the Couric interview was bad... Tina Fey made it look even worse.

[Marx]

There was so much... I can't even say it all.

But if you thought the Couric interview was bad... Tina Fey made it look even worse.

I didn't see the opening of SNL. I take it Tina Fey reprised her role?

[kane9321]

i'll be watching tonite

[Gilpesh]

I didn't see the opening of SNL. I take it Tina Fey reprised her role?

And hit it out of the park... unlike Palin's recent interviews.:hehe:

[danoyse]

What happened?

They re-did the Couric interview. It was hilarious. She talked about how many times she thought she saw Bin Laden driving cabs, and how she was surprised how many world leaders she met were foreigners. She promised when she and McCain won they'd give those jobs right back the American workers. :lmao:

Then she gave this screwed explanation of Alaska to Russia--how if Alaskans see Russians near Alaska they just tell them to shoo.

Then she did the bailout question, which actually sounded a lot like her actual answer, although there was a part about fast food restaurants having a value menu.

At one point she also asked to use a lifeline. It was insane.

They just did the debate too...McCain kept suggesting they suspend the campaign to have 3 pie-eating contests instead. :lmao:

[Marx]

They re-did the Couric interview. It was hilarious. She talked about how many times she thought she saw Bin Laden driving cabs, and how she was surprised how many world leaders she met were foreigners. She promised when she and McCain won they'd give those jobs right back the American workers. :lmao:

Then she gave this screwed explanation of Alaska to Russia--how if Alaskans see Russians near Alaska they just tell them to shoo.

Then she did the bailout question, which actually sounded a lot like her actual answer, although there was a part about fast food restaurants having a value menu.

At one point she also asked to use a lifeline. It was insane.

They just did the debate too...McCain kept suggesting they suspend the campaign to have 3 pie-eating contests instead. :lmao:

Crap! And I missed it! I'll have to search youtube! :csad:

[danoyse]

Crap! And I missed it! I'll have to search youtube! :csad:

I'm sure you'll find it soon. By the end of the debate, McCain was saying he just didn't care anymore...

Weekend Update is up next, I'm sure that will be fun too.

[redfirebird2008]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry4483110.shtml

LOL, the hits keep on coming from Mrs. Palin. She's now supporting Obama's position on dealing with terrorists in Pakistan, which oh by the way is a position that McCain has harshly attacked during this campaign.

[danoyse]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry4483110.shtml

LOL, the hits keep on coming from Mrs. Palin. She's now supporting Obama's position on dealing with terrorists in Pakistan, which oh by the way is a position that McCain has harshly attacked during this campaign.

She can't even go out for a Philly cheesesteak without screwing up...

[Marx]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry4483110.shtml

LOL, the hits keep on coming from Mrs. Palin. She's now supporting Obama's position on dealing with terrorists in Pakistan, which oh by the way is a position that McCain has harshly attacked during this campaign.

McCain Campaign Official (public statement): It is only natural that candidates disagree. When John McCain (chose) Sarah Palin to be his running mate, one requirement that he had was that his choice wasn't supposed to be a 'yes man'. It's become quite clear that McCain and Palin have differing views on a variety of issues. The most known being that John McCain is opposed to drilling in ANWAR while Palin is in favor of drilling. John McCain has built his career around those with differing views. He's a maverick. That's what mavericks do. This is just another great example of his willingness to work with those who do not share his opinion. It should also be noted (and Sarah Palin has also brought up this great point) that differing views of the VP candidate might not necessarily take precedent over the views of the Presidential candidate. After all, John McCain and Sarah Palin only want what is best for this country. And by bringing differing views to the table, and showing that they can work together to reform this great nation - they are putting 'country first'.

McCain Campaign Official (private statement): God ******! F***** h***! Who let this woman out of her box! That dumb *****! Gah!!!!!!! I want to punch someone in the face! :cmad:

I can hear it now! :hehe:

[danoyse]

McCain Campaign Official (public statement): It is only natural that candidates disagree. When John McCain (chose) Sarah Palin to be his running mate, one requirement that he had was that his choice wasn't supposed to be a 'yes man'. It's become quite clear that McCain and Palin have differing views on a variety of issues. The most known being that John McCain is oppsed to drilling in ANWAR while Palin is in favor of drilling. John McCain has built his career around those with differing views. He's a maverick. That's what mavericks do. This is just another great example of his willingness to work with those who do not share his opinion. It should also be noted (and Sarah Palin has also brought up this great point) that differing views of the VP candidate might not necessarily take precedent over the views of the Presidential candidate. After all, John McCain and Sarah Palin only want what is best for this country. And by bringing differing views to the table, and showing that they can work together to reform this great nation - they are putting 'country first'.

McCain Campaign Official (private statement): God ******! F***** h***! Who let this woman out of her box! That dumb *****! Gah!!!!!!! I want to punch someone in the face! :cmad:

:hehe:

But...isn't McCain running an ad right talking about how Biden has voted against each other?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/27/mccain-ad-pins-biden-against-obama/

I guess it's only OK for Palin and McCain to disagree. :whatever:

[Marx]

But...isn't McCain running an ad right talking about how Biden has voted against each other?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/27/mccain-ad-pins-biden-against-obama/

I guess it's only OK for Palin and McCain to disagree. :whatever:

Yeah I saw that. They have painted themselves in a corner. Palin has already publicly said that she disagrees with McCain on ANWAR and abortion...if they continue to push this newest 'line of attack' against Obama and Biden, it too, will backfire.

[danoyse]

Yeah I saw that. They have painted themselves in a corner. Palin has already publicly said that she disagrees with McCain on ANWAR and abortion...if they continue to push this newest 'line of attack' against Obama and Biden, it too, will backfire.

I do think it's safe to assume that they are going to make sure Palin just orders room service from this point on.

[Marx]

I do think it's safe to assume that they are going to make sure Palin just orders room service from this point on.

Nope. I think THEY will order room service FOR HER. :oldrazz:

[danoyse]

Nope. I think THEY will order room service FOR HER. :oldrazz:

Yeah, they can't risk anyone in the hotel asking her about Pakistan. :oldrazz:

(and the scary part is, that's probably a real concern right now)

[redfirebird2008]

OMG, I just saw Tina Fey's latest escapade as Sarah Palin on SNL. It was a re-enactment of the Katie Couric interview. Totally spot-on. A bunch of gibberish mixed with some incredibly stupid remarks (the bailout is about health care...oh wait...it's about taxpayer dollars). Tina Fey might be the one who sinks Palin. Obama won't attack the woman's incompetence, but SNL is doing an effective job!

[Marx]

Yeah, they can't risk anyone in the hotel asking her about Pakistan. :oldrazz:

(and the scary part is, that's probably a real concern right now)

I don't think they will want anyone asking her anything. At all. I'm still waiting for some kind of A.I. holographic version of Palin to appear for the debate. :funny:

[Marx]

OMG, I just saw Tina Fey's latest escapade as Sarah Palin on SNL. It was a re-enactment of the Katie Couric interview. Totally spot-on. A bunch of gibberish mixed with some incredibly stupid remarks (the bailout is about health care...oh wait...it's about taxpayer dollars). Tina Fey might be the one who sinks Palin. Obama won't attack the woman's incompetence, but SNL is doing an effective job!

I missed it...and still haven't found any clips! :cmad::csad:

[Shifty]

There is no way Palin approves of this sketch.

[Gilpesh]

Who wants to bet that there will be a family emergency on wednesday that might make Palin miss the debate?

[Venom'sDad]

OMG, I just saw Tina Fey's latest escapade as Sarah Palin on SNL. It was a re-enactment of the Katie Couric interview. Totally spot-on. A bunch of gibberish mixed with some incredibly stupid remarks (the bailout is about health care...oh wait...it's about taxpayer dollars). Tina Fey might be the one who sinks Palin. Obama won't attack the woman's incompetence, but SNL is doing an effective job!

Yeah.... but you do realize, most people don't watch SNL, especially the 40+ crowd, who are the main voting block in America.

[danoyse]

The NY Times has an editorial about about Wasilla charging victims for rape kits when she was mayor. Nothing that hasn't been said before, but it does show a reason to me why Biden's recent senior moments in interviews don't have me all that worried:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/27/mccain-ad-pins-biden-against-obama/

That’s why when Senator Joseph Biden, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, drafted the 1994 Violence Against Women Act, he included provisions to make states ineligible for federal grant money if they charged rape victims for exams and the kits containing the medical supplies needed to conduct them. (Senator John McCain, Ms. Palin’s running mate, voted against Mr. Biden’s initiative, and his name has not been among the long list of co-sponsors each time the act has been renewed.)

Now that's a record that speaks for itself.

[redfirebird2008]

I missed it...and still haven't found any clips! :cmad::csad:

I finally found a link that worked after about 5 of them had already been pulled by NBC. In fact, the one I just watched has already been yanked. Sheesh!

[Marx]

PALIN BEING INVESTIGATED FOR ANOTHER POSSIBLE ETHICS VIOLATION
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834.html?sid=ST2008092702850&s_pos=list

Has anyone heard about this?

[danoyse]

Yeah.... but you do realize, most people don't watch SNL, especially the 40+ crowd, who are the main voting block in America.

Do you know how many people wound up seeing that first SNL sketch anyway, because it made nearly every major news outlet? I'm sure this one isn't far behind.

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah.... but you do realize, most people don't watch SNL, especially the 40+ crowd, who are the main voting block in America.

Yes, but the media pays attention to it and then plays the clips on their stupid talk shows every day. SNL made fun of Gore and the media made a huge deal about it to the point that it helped turn him into a complete joke as a candidate.

As for SNL's audience, I can't stand the show. It has gone downhill big time over the years. Used to be great but is no longer funny.

[Cosmic]

Well, after watching the Couric interview, I almost wish they would've kept protecting her. I am stunned speechless.

[Shifty]

I finally found a link that worked after about 5 of them had already been pulled by NBC. In fact, the one I just watched has already been yanked. Sheesh!

They will be up on NBC tomorrow. The show hasn't aired on the west coast yet.

[redfirebird2008]

PALIN BEING INVESTIGATED FOR ANOTHER POSSIBLE ETHICS VIOLATION
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834.html?sid=ST2008092702850&s_pos=list

Has anyone heard about this?

You know that private statement you wrote earlier about what McCain's campaign is thinking over her recent Pakistan gaffe? Well I guess we can tack that statement onto this newest ethics issue. This woman is a catastrophe and it's only going to get worse, assuming her performance in the debate is similar to her interviews lately.

[Gilpesh]

PALIN BEING INVESTIGATED FOR ANOTHER POSSIBLE ETHICS VIOLATION
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834.html?sid=ST2008092702850&s_pos=list

Has anyone heard about this?

:whatever:

Great.

[Venom'sDad]

Do you know how many people wound up seeing that first SNL sketch anyway, because it made nearly every major news outlet? I'm sure this one isn't far behind.

Yeah... but because it make every news media does not mean people are actually tuned in at that exact time to see it. Rating for these news media show has been trending down for years(mainly because of the Internet).... just not as bad as the print media. A huge % of 40+ still don't use the internet although their numbers have been trending upwards ever so slightly.

[redfirebird2008]

Well, after watching the Couric interview, I almost wish they would've kept protecting her. I am stunned speechless.

One heartbeat away folks. And her running mate isn't 47 like Obama. Tack on 25 years, 4 bouts of skin cancer, and who knows what other health issues...Palin could be one heartbeat away. Very real possibility. I think she's right up there with Dan Quayle. Utterly incompetent to the point of making GWB look like one of the best Presidents ever.

[danoyse]

Yes, but the media pays attention to it and then plays the clips on their stupid talk shows every day. SNL made fun of Gore and the media made a huge deal about it to the point that it helped turn him into a complete joke as a candidate.

As for SNL's audience, I can't stand the show. It has gone downhill big time over the years. Used to be great but is no longer funny.

Al Gore's advisors actually made him watch their parodies so he could see how he was being perceived by everyone. Not that it helped.

I also think in the age of YouTube those clips get passed around more than people actually watch the show now. Even my dad, who missed it, said he could watch the sketch online later.

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah... but because it make every news media does not mean people are actually tuned in at that exact time to see it. Rating for these news media show has been trending down for years(mainly because of the Internet).... just not as bad as the print media. A huge % of 40+ still don't use the internet although their numbers have been trending upwards ever so slightly.

YouTube man. The Internet has hurt TV ratings, but videos like this get spread around very easily through email and such. Most people DON'T watch SNL, but if you are told there's a funny skit and someone gives you a link to watch it, what the hell do you have to lose? That's the mentality most people take and so the Internet has a huge effect on how people consume media these days.

[Marx]

YouTube man. The Internet has hurt TV ratings, but videos like this get spread around very easily through email and such. Most people DON'T watch SNL, but if you are told there's a funny skit and someone gives you a link to watch it, what the hell do you have to lose? That's the mentality most people take and so the Internet has a huge effect on how people consume media these days.

I've searched every description I can think of and nothing turns up.

[redfirebird2008]

I've searched every description I can think of and nothing turns up.

That's because they keep getting yanked by NBC. The one that worked for me actually said "palin hannity interview" or something along those lines. But I refreshed it just 5-10 minutes after watching it and it had already been yanked.

[Venom'sDad]

YouTube man. The Internet has hurt TV ratings, but videos like this get spread around very easily through email and such. Most people DON'T watch SNL, but if you are told there's a funny skit and someone gives you a link to watch it, what the hell do you have to lose? That's the mentality most people take and so the Internet has a huge effect on how people consume media these days.
Correct, I'm not knocking that; but people still have to "know" to access it, and a huge % of 40+, biggest dependable voting block of American election, don't know that a SNL skit is on the internet or how to access it on the Internet, via YouTube or other sites. Especially if it has been yanked at the time they are trying to find it.

[Marx]

That's because they keep getting yanked by NBC. The one that worked for me actually said "palin hannity interview" or something along those lines. But I refreshed it just 5-10 minutes after watching it and it had already been yanked.

Well they're definately on top of it tonight then!

[redfirebird2008]

Marx, get it quick while you can!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-5uJSCBZlQ

[danoyse]

Yeah... but because it make every news media does not mean people are actually tuned in at that exact time to see it. Rating for these news media show has been trending down for years(mainly because of the Internet).... just not as bad as the print media. A huge % of 40+ still don't use the internet although their numbers have been trending upwards ever so slightly.

I don't watch that much TV news and I saw that sketch everywhere. In fact, everyone I know who saw that sketch didn't see it on SNL.

Ratings are down because younger viewers are using the internet. That 40+ crowd is still watching the news.

[redfirebird2008]

Correct, I'm not knocking that; but people still have to "know" to access it, and a huge % of 40+, biggest dependable voting block of American election, don't know that a SNL skit is on the internet or how to access it on the Internet, via YouTube or other sites. Especially if it has been yanked at the time they are trying to find it.

It's only yanked right now. Tomorrow NBC will have it on their own website and at that point they really don't care if people post it on YouTube.

[bunk]

Aren't the skits usually on Hulu pretty quick?

[redfirebird2008]

"Katie, I'd like to use one of my lifelines. That's right, I'd like to phone a friend."

ROFL.

[Gilpesh]

Palin's interview and the Fey sketch make me think of this:

DFcIH2tK2iM

[Marx]

"Katie, I'd like to use one of my lifelines. That's right, I'd like to phone a friend."

ROFL.

:lmao:

[Venom'sDad]

That 40+ crowd is still watching the news.I know, you are missing the point. Viewership are down, and because of that you don't know what % of those viewers are seeing that story or clip at that particular time the news shows are airing it, because those viewers are not tuning in regularly for entire broadcast. Their is no denying a good percentage of people may see it, I just don't see SNL/tina Fey bring Palin down like the poster said, because a huge % of the voting block are not seeing it via SNL or news outlets

It's only yanked right now. Tomorrow NBC will have it on their own website and at that point they really don't care if people post it on YouTube. I know, you don't know how many times it will get yanked or how many time people will try to access it when it may be up.


I just think some of you are too much stock that many voters will see this SNL skit.... most will not.... particular the 40+ dependable voting block.

[redfirebird2008]

I know, you are missing the point. Viewership are down, and because of that you don't know what % of those viewers are seeing that story or clip at that particular time the news shows are airing it, because those viewers are not tuning in regularly for entire broadcast. Their is no denying a good percentage of people may see it, I just don't see SNL/tina Fey bring Palin down like the poster said, because a huge % of the voting block are not seeing it via SNL or news outlets

I know, you don't know how many times it will get yanked or how many time people will try to access it when it may be up.


I just think some of you are too much stock that many voters will see this SNL skit.... most will not.

Oh, I fully expect her own words to bring her down. That's been her biggest problem so far. You know it's bad when Tina Fey does a skit about your interview, repeats the lines verbatim, and gets huge laughter from the audience. That interview with Couric was a total disaster for her and McCain. If that kind of thing continues, including in the VP debate next week, their campaign as a whole is going to have serious problems. As much as people talk about voting for the top of the ticket, how can anyone honestly say there isn't at least a decent chance McCain won't live for the next 8 years? The guy has had cancer multiple times and has been criticized for not fully releasing his medical records. And now he has a running mate with the same level of incompetency as Dan Quayle.

[redfirebird2008]

I just think some of you are too much stock that many voters will see this SNL skit.... most will not.... particular the 40+ dependable voting block.

Don't get me wrong here. The SNL skit is merely highlighting Palin's own interview. I fully expect HER OWN WORDS to bring her and McCain down. How many of those over 40 voters do you think won't watch the VP debate? I guess you can keep counting on low-information voters. That's really the only way she's going to get off scott free on this if this incompetence continues.

[Venom'sDad]

Oh, I fully expect her own words to bring her down. That's been her biggest problem so far. You know it's bad when Tina Fey does a skit about your interview, repeats the lines verbatim, and gets huge laughter from the audience. That interview with Couric was a total disaster for her and McCain. If that kind of thing continues, including in the VP debate next week, their campaign as a whole is going to have serious problems. As much as people talk about voting for the top of the ticket, how can anyone honestly say there isn't at least a decent chance McCain won't live for the next 8 years? The guy has had cancer multiple times and has been criticized for not fully releasing his medical records. And now he has a running mate with the same level of incompetency as Dan Quayle.

Oh I agree.... and I think he said he will serve one term.... but could still pass within the next 4 years. It's possible.

[danoyse]

I know, you are missing the point. Viewership are down, and because of that you don't know what % of those viewers are seeing that story or clip at that particular time the news shows are airing it, because those viewers are not tuning in regularly for entire broadcast. Their is no denying a good percentage of people may see it, I just don't see SNL/tina Fey bring Palin down like the poster said, because a huge % of the voting block are not seeing it via SNL or news outlets


Well, I work in the media, so I do get the point. Plenty of people over 40 use the internet and keep up with the news, so I don't even know where you're getting that info from. Hell, my dad's nearly 60 and he has an iPhone.

Late night shows skewering presidential candidates has long been a tradition. SNL's been doing it since it's inception, and it's bolstered even more now by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. ABC's weekly news show on Sunday mornings even features a wrap-up of the political humor from all of these shows for anyone who missed them during the week.

Will an SNL sketch bring down the McCain campaign? Of course not. George Bush was played like a idiot by Will Ferrell on SNL and he's been in the White House for 8 years now.

The only thing that's bringing down Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin. But in an internet age, people don't need to see SNL to see these sketches anymore.

[redfirebird2008]

Oh I agree.... and I think he said he will serve one term.... but could still pass within the next 4 years. It's possible.

Yeah, comparing McCain to the current oldest President-elect, I'd say Reagan was in far better health at the time of his election than McCain is right now. The skin cancer thing is pretty worrisome. 4 frickin' times. And he only let the media look at his records for what, 30 minutes? Yeesh.

[jaguarr]

Fey knocked it out of the park again tonight. Funny stuff! :up:

jag

[Venom'sDad]

Well, I work in the media, so I do get the point. Plenty of people over 40 use the internet and keep up with the news, so I don't even know where you're getting that info from.

The only thing that's bringing down Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin. But in an internet age, people don't need to see SNL to see these sketches anymore.

I agree with the highlighted; but look, I know plenty of 40+ use the internet. The fact of the matter most 40+ don't access the net like you think they do.... I'm not sure where you are getting your info. 40+ user have been trending upwards slightly, but the overall % is still low.

[jaguarr]

Isn't this the same woman who lashed out at the media saying that her family should be left alone??? She sure seems all to willing to throw them all out there if it will help her in the polls.

Hypocrit. :cmad:

Yep. And now they are "praying" for an opportunity to exploit her daughters wedding because of the media circus it will hopefully create. What a bunch of predators. Sheesh! With friends (and parents) like these...

jag

[redfirebird2008]

I agree with the highlighted; but look, I know plenty of 40+ use the internet. The fact of the matter most 40+ don't access the net like you think they do.... I'm not sure where you are getting your info. 40+ user have been trending upwards slightly, but the overall % is still low.

I don't think 40+ is the age group you are intending to talk about. 40 is pretty damn young with regards to computer technology. I would say 50+ is the age group you are talking about. A 40 year old would have been in their 20's back in the 1990's when computers, email, and the Internet were really taking off.

[jaguarr]

Yes it is. I was equally stunned when I read a letter in the local paper today. The author claimed that liberal Hollywood was trying to make Palin look bad, and Charlie Gibson is in on it.

Right, because Gibson made her give those ridiculous answerers.:whatever:

Damn that Gibson! Damn him to Hell! :cmad:

jag

[Venom'sDad]

No, I saying what I mean, Red

[jaguarr]

I agree with the highlighted; but look, I know plenty of 40+ use the internet. The fact of the matter most 40+ don't access the net like you think they do.... I'm not sure where you are getting your info. 40+ user have been trending upwards slightly, but the overall % is still low.

Oh, please. That clip of Fey's turn as Palin the first time around got passed around at my workplace like the town bike by people who don't even stay up long enough to watch SNL let alone even know it's still on. Even the ultra-neo-conservative people who parrot Bush and McCain talking points almost on command got a laugh out of it. My own mother sent me a link to it, and if she has seen it then I guarantee damn near everyone has.

jag

[Venom'sDad]

Okayyyy

[danoyse]

I don't think 40+ is the age group you are intending to talk about. 40 is pretty damn young with regards to computer technology. I would say 50+ is the age group you are talking about. A 40 year old would have been in their 20's back in the 1990's when computers, email, and the Internet were really taking off.

Exactly. I'm 34, and know plenty of people in their 40s who use the internet as much as I do. In regards to SNL, people in their 40s grew up with that show...they may not watch it as much now (outside of the political sketches, who would?), so their political humor is well-known.

Over 50? I would agree that they're not looking up the sketches online. But they're seeing them on the news. Ratings are down because younger viewers are getting their news online now. And a lot of us do email YouTube clips to our parents.

I read another board where the average age is about 35-45, maybe even higher--and they're all having a good laugh over "And I can see Russia from my house!!"

I saw that first Tina Fey sketch on GMA, I saw it on my local news, I saw it on CNN. You can't possibly say that most people over 40 never saw that sketch.

[Venom'sDad]

You guys are making baseless assumptions on what YOU feel must be true.

[danoyse]

Oh, please. That clip of Fey's turn as Palin the first time around got passed around at my workplace like the town bike by people who don't even stay up long enough to watch SNL let alone even know it's still on. Even the ultra-neo-conservative people who parrot Bush and McCain talking points almost on command got a laugh out of it. My own mother sent me a link to it, and if she has seen it then I guarantee damn near everyone has.

jag

Exactly. When that sketch aired tonight, I text-messaged my dad. He texted back and said he missed it, but he will look it up online tomorrow. And like I said, he's almost 60.

[Gilpesh]

You guys are making baseless assumptions on what YOU feel must be true.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5740/potkettleuy0.jpg

[hitmanyr2k]

My mom in-law is 69 and has Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart's websites bookmarked on her Mac. She's also seen the SNL Palin skit online. Not all old folks are clueless when it comes to this stuff.

[Venom'sDad]

:whatever: No one said they were.

[Excel]

Oh my god was Fey was funny this time!

[Shifty]

Surprised me, SNL's ratings have held up. And The Daily Show is reaching Conan numbers even with shows online.


'SNL' turning politics into gold
Ratings up 50% from last season
By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER (http://www.variety.com/VR1117992935.html)

The presidential campaign has been very, very good to "Saturday Night Live."

"SNL" has experienced a hefty bump in the Nielsen polls this election season, boasting a 50% gain over last season’s first two episodes.

And it’s not the only beneficiary of this year’s bitterly waged presidential campaign. Comedy Central’s "The Daily Show" is coming off its most-watched week in history, averaging 1.9 million viewers last week — up 28% from last year.

Of course, last year, the world hadn’t yet heard of Sarah Palin, and both Barack Obama and John McCain were considered longshots for their respective party nominations.

A year later, the U.S. is in the midst of a presidential campaign that many have described as unusual and unexpected — in other words, perfect fodder for "SNL" and "The Daily Show," not to mention Comedy Central’s "The Colbert Report" and HBO’s "Real Time With Bill Maher."

"The Daily Show’s" take on this election cycle no doubt contributed to the show’s recent record-breaking sixth Emmy award for variety, music or comedy series. Ditto "The Colbert Report’s" win in the category of writing for a variety/music/comedy series.

Americans may be suffering from election fatigue, but the producers behind TV’s top satire skeins have been mining comedy gold and probably hope the campaign never ends.

"I sure hope not," quipped NBC latenight topper Rick Ludwin. "It seems like it’s been going on for two years, and I think it should go on for another two years."

Given the hefty interest in this year’s McCain-Obama showdown, Peacock made a strategic decision to launch "SNL" earlier than usual. The show usually bows during premiere week — or sometimes even afterward. But this year, it was back on Sept. 14.

That move continues to pay off. Last week’s second episode, hosted by James Franco, averaged a 3.0 rating/12 share, up 25% vs. the second episode a year ago.

What’s more, "SNL" has slated four episodes in a row — a feat it pulled off last spring, post-writers strike, for the first time since the late 1970s. And it will also produce three special primetime "Saturday Night Live Weekend Update Thursday" editions, which will run behind "The Office" starting Oct. 9.

"The early start was based, of course, on the fact that ‘SNL’ came back so strongly after the writers strike," Ludwin said. "We really felt that momentum build. And then during the summer, so many things shaped the political news, but we weren’t on the air. NBC wanted to get an early start to the season, and we had incredible circulation coming out of the Summer Olympics. Lorne Michaels agreed and was eager to get back on the air — as were the cast and writers on ‘SNL.’"

It didn’t take long for the show to get back into the campaign conversation: Series alum Tina Fey earned raves for her spot-on portrayal of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin. Some have even suggested the sketch impacted McCain’s poll numbers — shades of last spring’s assertion that the media got tougher on Obama after an "SNL" sketch called out how differently they treated rival Hillary Clinton.

"We’re obviously thrilled that the show is talked about as being more relevant than in the past," Ludwin said. "And there is a sense of responsibility to be fair. Our job is to be funny and to make fun of politics."

Ludwin argues that "SNL" has been consistently on target over the last several presidential campaigns, pointing to Darrell Hammond’s circa 2000 Al Gore impression. As for the show’s increased relevancy during this election cycle, the exec also credits "SNL’s" increased Web presence. The availability of the premiere’s Tina Fey-as-Sarah Palin sketch online likely contributed to the show’s solid week-two numbers, he said.

As for this week’s episode, much of what appears on Saturday night will depend on how the presidential debate goes down tonight — or if there’s a debate at all.

"It would be good for the show if, in fact, just one of the candidates shows up," Ludwin said. "It might not be such a good sign for the country, but in terms of doing a satirical show, it’s a gift."

[Superman]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry4483110.shtml

LOL, the hits keep on coming from Mrs. Palin. She's now supporting Obama's position on dealing with terrorists in Pakistan, which oh by the way is a position that McCain has harshly attacked during this campaign.:lmao: God I hope someone got her saying that on video.:hehe:

[souvlaki]

Okay, we have successfully lowered expectations for this woman as much as possible. She basically has to be coherent at the debate on Thursday for it to be an impressive showing.

[rdh007]

My bigger concern is Biden's ability to restrain himself from laughing at her. And pointing.

[sinewave]

Fareed Zakaria weighs in on Sarah Palin. And it ain't pretty. Here's an excerpt:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/161204/page/1

zakaria is one of the brightest, most insightful and fair-minded journalists working today. for him to say this is utterly disastrous to the mccain campaign. he's absolutely right in his assessment, as always.

[Marx]

If any of you guys saw my mock public and private statements about this (on page 275)...here's the real thing!

MCCAIN RETRACTS PALIN'S PAKISTAN COMMENTS
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/

(She, uh...didn't mean it. She just didn't mean it.)

:lmao:

[jaguarr]

If any of you guys saw my mock public and private statements about this (on page 275)...here's the real thing!

MCCAIN RETRACTS PALIN'S PAKISTAN COMMENTS
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/

(She, uh...didn't mean it. She just didn't mean it.)

:lmao:

Worst. Jedi. Mind. Trick. Attempt. Ever.

jag

[souvlaki]

If any of you guys saw my mock public and private statements about this (on page 275)...here's the real thing!

MCCAIN RETRACTS PALIN'S PAKISTAN COMMENTS
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/

(She, uh...didn't mean it. She just didn't mean it.)

:lmao:

Oh... my... God... Can we just skip the month of October and go straight to November already? This campaign is giving me a headache.

[Manic]

If any of you guys saw my mock public and private statements about this (on page 275)...here's the real thing!

MCCAIN RETRACTS PALIN'S PAKISTAN COMMENTS
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/

(She, uh...didn't mean it. She just didn't mean it.)

:lmao:
Sometimes I wonder if McCain wants to lose this election on purpose.

[kainedamo]

Sometimes I wonder if McCain wants to lose this election on purpose.

I've said this a few times. I think its a genuine possibility.

[StrainedEyes]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/28/palincheesesteak.cnn

Haha the way she says "McCain did awesome". She sounds like she didn't even watch the thing.

[Shifty]

Okay, we have successfully lowered expectations for this woman as much as possible. She basically has to be coherent at the debate on Thursday for it to be an impressive showing.

POEHLER AS COURIC: "Senator McCain attempted to shut down his political campaign this week in order to deal with the economic crisis. What's your opinion of this potential 700 billion dollar bailout?"

FEY AS PALIN: "Like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this. We're saying, 'Hey, why bail out Fanny and Freddie and not me?' But ultimately what the bailout does is, help those that are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy to help...uh...it's gotta be all about job creation, too. Also, too, shoring up our economy and putting Fannie and Freddy back on the right track and so healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending...'cause Barack Obama, y'know...has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans, also, having a dollar value meal at restaurants. That's gonna help. But one in five jobs being created today under the umbrella of job creation. That, you know...Also..."

[danoyse]

Sometimes I wonder if McCain wants to lose this election on purpose.

SNL also did a sketch about the debate that had McCain ending it with "You know, I just don't care anymore..." :lmao:

[Marx]

POEHLER AS COURIC: "Senator McCain attempted to shut down his political campaign this week in order to deal with the economic crisis. What's your opinion of this potential 700 billion dollar bailout?"

FEY AS PALIN: "Like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this. We're saying, 'Hey, why bail out Fanny and Freddie and not me?' But ultimately what the bailout does is, help those that are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy to help...uh...it's gotta be all about job creation, too. Also, too, shoring up our economy and putting Fannie and Freddy back on the right track and so healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending...'cause Barack Obama, y'know...has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans, also, having a dollar value meal at restaurants. That's gonna help. But one in five jobs being created today under the umbrella of job creation. That, you know...Also..."

Hilarious! :lmao:

[Excel]

"Fredie Mac?"- reporter
"Ive heard of him"- Palin

[luke1234]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/28/palincheesesteak.cnn

Haha the way she says "McCain did awesome". She sounds like she didn't even watch the thing.


ahhaha i know that kid wit the temple shirt, thats hilarious, i was 2 blocks away when this happened damnit

[danoyse]

Time.com weighs in on the CBS interview. Here's an excerpt:


http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1845116,00.html?imw=Y

It takes a hard heart not to like Sarah Palin. She has a winning personal story. She can be poised, charming and funny. As she showed at the Republican National Convention, her ability to deliver set-piece speeches — a big part of the job for all politicians, but especially Presidents — is considerable. On balance, she's probably an asset to John McCain. But we should stop pretending that she is ready now or anytime in the forseeable future to be Commander-in-Chief.

I reached this conclusion after watching the foreign-policy portion of her disastrous Sept. 25 interview with Katie Couric. A number of commentators, including The Atlantic's James Fallows and Slate's Christopher Beam, have said that Palin resembled, in Beam's words, "a high-schooler trying to BS her way through a book report," which is an insult to both high-schoolers and B.S. Palin's answers were hesitant, convoluted and at times — like when she appeared to suggest that Vladimir Putin might be preparing a one-man airborne invasion of Alaska — downright loony.

[DorkyFresh]

:lmao: God I hope someone got her saying that on video.:hehe:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/28/palincheesesteak.cnn

around the 50 second mark. the few seconds before that, where the cashier asks Sarah Palin for her name, gave me a chuckle.

[Manic]

"which is an insult to both high-schoolers and B.S."

:lmao:

[danoyse]

ahhaha i know that kid wit the temple shirt, thats hilarious, i was 2 blocks away when this happened damnit

I think the McCain campaign might be taking a hit out on that kid. :wow: :oldrazz:

[Alex The Great]

I hate how McCain chose Palin JUST to get the bitter Clinton Supporters :down

[gap5ewl]

Does anyone have a link to the SNL Palin skit from last night?

[ShadowBoxing]

It's on the SNL website.

[redfirebird2008]

McCain attempting to spin Palin's comments on Pakistan:

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[ShadowBoxing]

I saw bunch of Republicans on video comments for the most recent Palin sketch calling Tina Fey "an ugly b*tch" who would be better served as a scarecrow.

[redfirebird2008]

Okay, we have successfully lowered expectations for this woman as much as possible. She basically has to be coherent at the debate on Thursday for it to be an impressive showing.

You know what's funny about this? A CNN poll showed that it's a dead heat between Biden and Palin on the question of, "Who is the better debater?" People simply do NOT know who Biden is and clearly they don't realize how incompetent Palin is. Thus you have polls suggesting that this could be hilarious. If people are seriously that clueless about Biden, they are in for a hell of a surprise.

[redfirebird2008]

OK, I knew she nailed it before but check out the side by side comparison. HILARIOUS.

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[redfirebird2008]

LMFAO, now CNN is covering the SNL skit and showing Palin's actual interview side by side:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/azb-_wF5gN4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/azb-_wF5gN4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[jaguarr]

McCain attempting to spin Palin's comments on Pakistan:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/odXbTdvHCik&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/odXbTdvHCik&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Hahaha! Nice attempt at B.S.'ing your horrible running mate's comments. Nice of you to say "she shares my view" repeatedly, too. Nice to know you have about as much faith in letting her speak her own mind as your handlers do. Nice to know you don't hold your own running mate to the standards you hold your opponents, too. Nice. :up:

jag

[Marx]

LMFAO, now CNN is covering the SNL skit and showing Palin's actual interview side by side:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/azb-_wF5gN4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/azb-_wF5gN4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

:lmao:

[redfirebird2008]

:lmao:

There really is no defending this if you're a Republican strategist. I know they are the ultimate spinmeisters, but as John King said, it's a damn DISASTER of an interview.

[danoyse]

Hahaha! Nice attempt at B.S.'ing your horrible running mate's comments. Nice of you to say "she shares my view" repeatedly, too. Nice to know you have about as much faith in letting her speak her own mind as your handlers do. Nice to know you don't hold your own running mate to the standards you hold your opponents, too. Nice. :up:

jag

Don't announce it to the Pakistanis, but feel free to let some random bystanders outside a Philly cheesesteak stand know what you plan to do. Would that be considered a "strategy" or a "tactic"? :lmao:

McCain looks like he's going to explode in that interview.

[redfirebird2008]

Don't announce it to the Pakistanis, but feel free to let some random bystanders outside a Philly cheesesteak stand know what you plan to do. Would that be considered a "strategy" or a "tactic"? :lmao:

McCain looks like he's going to explode in that interview.

McCain ALWAYS looks like he's going to explode. The man has an outrageous temper and it clearly shows any time someone is not sucking up to him.

[jaguarr]

Don't announce it to the Pakistanis, but feel free to let some random bystanders outside a Philly cheesesteak stand know what you plan to do. Would that be considered a "strategy" or a "tactic"? :lmao:

McCain looks like he's going to explode in that interview.

I wanted Stephanapoupopopououpooouuulous to say to McCain "So, are you suggesting that a sneak attack on Pakistan would be better, then?" :D

jag

[redfirebird2008]

Oh man, Jack Cafferty at CNN from Friday:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/L8__aXxXPVc&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/L8__aXxXPVc&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

This might be the worst VP choice in history.

[jaguarr]

Oh, look. ANOTHER possible ethics scandal brewing for Palin. I'ma call this one "Miner Gate":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834.html?%20hpid=topnews

Palin's Stand on Mining Initiative Leaves Many Feeling Burned

By Alec MacGillis
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 28, 2008; A12

For months, the confrontation mounted, a face-off that arguably held in the balance the fates of two of Alaska's biggest industries. On one side were companies hoping to open Pebble Mine at a huge gold and copper reserve adjacent to one of the world's largest salmon runs, Bristol Bay. On the other side were fishermen and environmentalists pushing a referendum that would make it harder for the mine to open.

The two sides spent more than $10 million -- unprecedented for such efforts in Alaska -- and throughout it all, the state's highly popular first-term governor, Sarah Palin, held back. Alaska law forbids state officials from using state resources to advocate on ballot initiatives.

Then, six days before the Aug. 26 vote, with the race looking close, Palin broke her silence. Asked about the initiative at a news conference, she invoked "personal privilege" to give an opinion. "Let me take my governor's hat off for just a minute here and tell you, personally, Prop. 4 -- I vote no on that," she said. "I have all the confidence in the world that [the Department of Environmental Conservation] and our [Department of Natural Resources] have great, very stringent regulations and policies already in place. We're going to make sure that mines operate only safely, soundly."

Palin's comments rocked the contest. Within a day, the pro-mining coalition fighting the referendum had placed full-page ads with a picture of the governor and the word "NO." The initiative went down to defeat, with 57 percent of voters rejecting it.

Three days later, Palin was named Republican Sen. John McCain's running mate, throwing Alaska into a media frenzy. But the fallout has lingered from an episode that may stand as one of the most consequential in Palin's 21-month tenure. The state ethics panel is examining whether her comments violated the law against state advocacy on ballot measures; it had already ruled that a state Web site was improperly slanted toward mining interests.

Opponents of the referendum say Palin's intervention showed her willingness to speak up for what she saw as the state's best interests, even if it upset many Alaskans. "It was very positive," said John Shively, chief executive of Pebble Partnership, a consortium of Vancouver-based Northern Dynasty and multinational mining giant Anglo American that is planning the mine. "She's very popular as governor, and so it certainly never hurts to have a popular governor on your side."

The initiative's supporters, stunned by Palin's late intervention, say it demonstrated her bias in favor of development, even when it threatens an industry that supports thousands of Alaskans -- including Palin's husband, Todd, a part-time commercial fisherman who grew up near Bristol Bay.

For Palin to intervene as she did, with a brief, seemingly off-the-cuff statement just days before the election, also showed a lack of serious engagement on complex and important issues, initiative supporters say. Palin, they say, was simply going on the word of officials in her administration that the existing regulations sufficed, without taking into account their possible biases: Her natural resources commissioner hails from the mining industry, and mining companies directly subsidize some regulators' salaries.

"She has this great faith that nothing will go wrong, which gave her a false sense of security, so she went off a little half-cocked" and spoke out, said Tim Bristol, Alaska program director for Trout Unlimited.

McCain campaign spokeswoman Meghan Stapleton, Palin's former press secretary, defended the governor's intervention. "From the moment Governor Palin took office, she made it clear she supports responsible resource development," Stapleton said. "On the issue of the possible development of Pebble Mine -- this is not about whether you are for or against development, because they haven't even submitted a permit; this is about process and ensuring that any company that wants to come to Alaska and develop our resources is at the very least provided the opportunity to avail themselves of the state's process."

Most irksome to initiative proponents was Palin's effort to cast her intervention as "personal."

"We were just like, 'When does she have her hat on and when does she have it off?' " Bristol said. Former governor Tony Knowles, a Democrat who lost to Palin in 2006, went further and said she may have violated the law against using state resources to advocate on initiatives. He said he never took such a decisive stand on a ballot initiative.

"She says, 'I'm going to take off my governor's hat,' but the only reason the press was there was that they were called to a press conference by the governor," he said. "Being governor is not a costume -- you either are the governor or not."

Shively said it is "absolute balderdash" to question Palin's right to oppose the measure. Yet some other opponents of the referendum said they were surprised she spoke out. "I was delighted, absolutely delighted, but I don't know if it was the right thing for her to do," said Cynthia Toohey, who co-owns an Alaska mine and chaired the opposition coalition. "I've lived in the state 30 years, and I don't believe I've ever heard a governor come out for or against an initiative like that."

The same week that Palin voiced her views, Alaska's Public Offices Commission ordered revisions to an informational Web site set up by the state. The site stated that the initiative's proposed new regulations were "general and less precise" than existing law and that they might lead to limiting operations at existing mines. Initiative supporters said the Web site echoed the mining industry's talking points.

Mining companies are proceeding with planning for Pebble Mine and hope to apply for permits in a year. Discovered in 1988, the site is the largest gold and copper deposit in the country. Supporters, who include many Native Alaskan leaders, say the mine would provide jobs for struggling rural Alaska and note that mining yields $200 million a year in state tax revenue.

But the mine would sit on Bristol Bay, a fishing paradise where 31 million sockeye salmon worth $108 million were caught last year. Opponents consider it too risky to construct an open-pit mine, as well as the world's largest dam to hold mining waste, so close to the valuable fishing grounds. The defeated initiative would have addressed their concern, barring any new large metals mine from releasing chemicals that would damage salmon, a standard not included in current law.

Fishing employs more people than any other Alaska industry -- 12,000 mostly seasonal jobs in Bristol Bay alone, compared with 5,500 mining jobs statewide. But the mining industry has more lobbying clout. In the referendum fight, the pro-mining coalition easily outspent its opposition.

Mining interests have courted Palin since her inauguration. Northern Dynasty contributed to her inaugural fund, and other mining companies have offered gifts and paid travel expenses for Palin's husband to go on fact-finding trips.

Palin suggested in her campaign and early in her tenure that she would withhold judgment on Pebble Mine. In a campaign questionnaire, she said that "as part of a Bristol Bay fishing family myself, I would not support any resource development that would endanger the most sensitive and productive fishery in the world." In a September 2007 interview with the Anchorage Daily News, she repeated that "Pebble Mine will not be permitted on our watch" if it hurts the salmon grounds, but she added that "we can't go in there with a preconceived notion that Pebble Mine should or shouldn't be permitted."

Environmentalists saw a bad omen when Palin's administration urged legislators not to toughen a regulation that the previous governor, Frank Murkowski (R), had loosened to allow some levels of toxicity in streams when salmon are not present. Political strategist Danny Consenstein, a leader of the pro-initiative team, said he suspected that Palin eventually came out against the initiative to maintain her Republican standing in a state where the party has long supported the use of natural resources.

"This is kind of a litmus test," he said. "If you're against the mining industry, you're anti-Alaskan. She's a Republican governor, and she's got to show she's pro-development."

A week before the vote, Palin spoke with initiative opponent Mead Treadwell, the chairman of the U.S. Arctic Research Commission. He sensed that the governor was seeing things his way. "Palin said, 'I can't take a position, but if anyone asks me what I think, I'd say that I don't like it,' " Treadwell recalled. "And about an hour later, someone asked her."

She stated her opposition without warning Rick Halford, a conservative Republican and former state senator. A main initiative supporter, he had worked hard for Palin's election. The two had talked during the summer about Pebble, and "she was cautious and trying to figure it out at that point," he said.

Art Hackney, a political consultant and director of Alaskans for Clean Water, speculated that Palin may have been irked by complaints about the biased language on the state Web site. "It was her way of waving her wand, as she is wont to do," he said, ". . . and poof, undercut this effort with one fell swoop."

jag

[Honey Vibe]

Her only hope now, is that most Americans never saw the interview with Couric and are too lazy to find out exactly what transpired.

[gap5ewl]

Oh, look. ANOTHER possible ethics scandal brewing for Palin. I'ma call this one "Miner Gate":



jag


Damn, everyday something new comes out about her.

[comicgirl]

Ok, ok...WTF?


Palin Claims People and Dinosaurs CoExisted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html

[The Chris]

Matt Damon's quote at the bottom is priceless.

[redfirebird2008]

Ok, ok...WTF?


Palin Claims People and Dinosaurs CoExisted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html

And the freak show continues. This woman is looney tunes. I am Christian, but I do not take Genesis literally. Nobody should. Science does not back up that belief. Believing in a literal Genesis is admitting that you think science is a bunch of BS.

[comicgirl]

And the freak show continues. This woman is looney tunes. I am Christian, but I do not take Genesis literally. Nobody should. Science does not back up that belief. Believing in a literal Genesis is admitting that you think science is a bunch of BS.:csad:can I get an amen...She scares me

[C.F. Kane]

Her only hope now, is that most Americans never saw the interview with Couric and are too lazy to find out exactly what transpired.

Not a chance. Now that the internet has become a major media force, that interview will echo across the board for days if not weeks.

[DorkyFresh]

Ok, ok...WTF?


Palin Claims People and Dinosaurs CoExisted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html

lol...i love one of the comments.

"She would know, she's running with one!"

[redfirebird2008]

lol...i love one of the comments.

"She would know, she's running with one!"

:applaud:hoboj:

[Marx]

Ok, ok...WTF?


Palin Claims People and Dinosaurs CoExisted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html

This reminds me of a scene at the Creation Museum in Kentucky where there are children playing peacefully in a stream with raptors.

[redfirebird2008]

This reminds me of a scene at the Creation Museum in Kentucky where there are children playing peacefully in a stream with raptors.

:applaud

[redfirebird2008]

Marx, straight from Wikipedia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Creation_Museum_10.png/800px-Creation_Museum_10.png

[jaguarr]

Ok, ok...WTF?


Palin Claims People and Dinosaurs CoExisted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html

Ahhhh, so she's a Young Earth Creationist if this is true; the sort of people who think The Flintstones is a whimsical documentary. Scary. This is my favorite comment from that blog piece:

Think maybe we can convince Palin to oppose drilling in Anwar if we point out to her that, based on her belief, the source of oil might be fossilized human remains as well as fossilized dinosaurs?

:funny:

jag

[Marx]

Marx, straight from Wikipedia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Creation_Museum_10.png/800px-Creation_Museum_10.png

Yep...that would be it Firebird. :oldrazz:

[jaguarr]

http://faroutshirts.com/images/raptorJesus-pnged.png

jag

[C.F. Kane]

Marx, straight from Wikipedia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Creation_Museum_10.png/800px-Creation_Museum_10.png

Barney Rubble was cute in his younger days.

[The Senator]

Ok, ok...WTF?


Palin Claims People and Dinosaurs CoExisted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html

What. An. IDIOT.

How can anyone want this woman to have the second highest position in government now that she has blatantly IGNORED scientific evidence which suggests that man did not exist until MILLIONS of years after the Dinosaurs went extinct? Hell, screw her whole "I can see Russia from Alaska" foreign policy credentials, screw her insurmountable inexperience, screw the dozens of lies which have come spewing from her mouth or her people since she was selected as McCain's running mate... this should be enough evidence to prove that she MUST NOT be elected as the Vice President of the United States.

Even the MAJORITY of Christians have come to realize that man and dinosaur did not walk the earth at the same time, many Christians even accept the idea of evolution (albeit it works hand-in-hand with creationism). But the fact that this BIMBO believes not only that the earth is six thousand years old, that there is no such a thing as evolution, and now apparently believes that man and dinosaur coexisted back in the Stone Age proves how much of a threat she is to this country.

We do not need to be set back two hundred years in the event of a McCain death and a Palin secession-- er, I mean succession.

[gap5ewl]

Marx, straight from Wikipedia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Creation_Museum_10.png/800px-Creation_Museum_10.png

Back during Jesus' time, humans and flesh eating, carnivorous dinosaurs coexisting peacefully.






BTW, did they take that baby t-rex from the prop department of Lost World: Jurrasic Park?

[Honey Vibe]

Ok, ok...WTF?


Palin Claims People and Dinosaurs CoExisted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html
I'm going to dismiss this jab, due to it being based on hearsay.

[Arc-Light]

The downfall of McCain's quest to the White house all started with his moronic pick of Sarah Palin......and he deserves it.

[ManofmyWord]

http://r.ompo.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/raptor-jesusthumbnail.jpg

:hoboj::gray:

[redfirebird2008]

The downfall of McCain's quest to the White house all started with his moronic pick of Sarah Palin......and he deserves it.

They say the first Presidential decision a candidate makes is his running mate. Obama passed with flying colors and McCain lobbed a hail mary that is quickly turning out to be smoke and mirrors...aka a failure.

[Manic]

OK, I knew she nailed it before but check out the side by side comparison. HILARIOUS.

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:lmao:
They... they didn't even have to make up that much. At least half of that is word-for-word the exact same.

[The Senator]

http://r.ompo.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/raptor-jesusthumbnail.jpg

:hoboj::gray:

HAHAHAHAHA!

Here's a silly question: Does the Bible even mention dinosaurs? If not, then how can Sarah Palin believe in them? :huh:

[souvlaki]

HAHAHAHAHA!

Here's a silly question: Does the Bible even mention dinosaurs? If not, then how can Sarah Palin believe in them? :huh:

It's been a long time since my church days, but I seem to remember a reference to a "behemoth" in Job that a lot of people believe is referring to a dinosaur. It was a pretty vague passage though.

[redfirebird2008]

HAHAHAHAHA!

Here's a silly question: Does the Bible even mention dinosaurs? If not, then how can Sarah Palin believe in them? :huh:

It doesn't. Speaking of this, the late, great comedian Bill Hicks once talked about this. He phrased it the same way you did. "Explain dinosaurs. They're not in the Bible. Did they exist?!"

[redfirebird2008]

It's been a long time since my church days, but I seem to remember a reference to a "behemoth" in Job that a lot of people believe is referring to a dinosaur. It was a pretty vague passage though.

I always was told that it was referring to a whale.

[jaguarr]

http://www.sciencepunk.com/v5/gallery/jesus_on_raptor.jpg

jag

[Hobgoblin]

I always was told that it was referring to a whale.

And the History Channel said it was a Great White shark. :huh:

HAHAHAHAHA!

Here's a silly question: Does the Bible even mention dinosaurs? If not, then how can Sarah Palin believe in them? :huh:

I heard somewhere that supposedly an Old Testament verse says something about God killing a dragon before humanity arose. Read into that as you will.

[souvlaki]

It doesn't. Speaking of this, the late, great comedian Bill Hicks once talked about this. He phrased it the same way you did. "Explain dinosaurs. They're not in the Bible. Did they exist?!"

When I was pretty young I pressed my friend's preacher about dinosaurs. His response was that he believed God put those fossils on this earth as a test of man's faith. Even as a kid I knew that was such a b.s. response.

[redfirebird2008]

JMan, here's Bill Hicks talking about dinosaurs in the Bible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrZcztxRquo

[redfirebird2008]

When I was pretty young I pressed my friend's preacher about dinosaurs. His response was that he believed God put those fossils on this earth as a test of man's faith. Even as a kid I knew that was such a b.s. response.

LOL, look at my link above. The last part of it he's using a similar example to yours! These people are freaks.

[The Senator]

I heard somewhere that supposedly an Old Testament verse says something about God killing a dragon before humanity arose. Read into that as you will.

I don't take that as a mention of dinosaurs, I see that as just more of the same whimsical fair tales such as the talking snake, the giant boat which saved every species on the planet, and the scorpion men which come out of the center of the Earth when the apocalypse comes.

No offense.

[souvlaki]

LOL, look at my link above. The last part of it he's using a similar example to yours! These people are freaks.

:lmao:

Yeah, my reaction was pretty similar to Bill Hicks.

[Marx]

And...here...we...go! (Again. Actually, yet again. Or is it again again? I really can't keep up with all of this stuff!)

AP INVESTIGATION: PALIN GOT ZONING AID, GIFTS
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080928/ap_on_el_pr/palin_ethics

[Hobgoblin]

I don't take that as a mention of dinosaurs, I see that as just more of the same whimsical fair tales such as the talking snake, the giant boat which saved every species on the planet, and the scorpion men which come out of the center of the Earth when the apocalypse comes.

No offense.
None taken.

[souvlaki]

So has anyone bothered pointing out to Palin that ME, VT, NH, MA and CT state capitals are closer to Moscow than Juneau? Does that mean Howard Dean has better foreign policy credentials than Sarah Palin?

[redfirebird2008]

Speaking of Palin, did y'all know she made a D in an intro to microeconomics class in college? This person could be one heartbeat away from the Presidency during a time of economic crisis...and she got an effin' D in a basic economics class in college!

[jaguarr]

And...here...we...go! (Again. Actually, yet again. Or is it again again? I really can't keep up with all of this stuff!)

AP INVESTIGATION: PALIN GOT ZONING AID, GIFTS
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080928/ap_on_el_pr/palin_ethics

Okay, the part about the free "awesome facial" had me laughing out loud. :funny: (I know...I need help. :o )



jag

[The Senator]

Speaking of Palin, did y'all know she made a D in an intro to microeconomics class in college? This person could be one heartbeat away from the Presidency during a time of economic crisis...and she got an effin' D in a basic economics class in college!

But she can see microeconomics from her house!


or was that Micronesia? :huh:

[redfirebird2008]

I mean my God, I hate economics but I managed to get an A in both my intro to macro and intro to microeconomics classes. I got a B in my upper level economics class but that was because the teacher was a hardass. He ended up curving the entire class by around 40 points because everyone failed his tests so miserably. In fact apparently this is a common practice every semester for him. Give everyone 20s to 50's on the tests and then curve like a MOFO.

[souvlaki]

After looking into the distance from Moscow to Alaska I stumbled across this article:


Palin's Geography Lesson

In her interview with Katie Couric, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin again points to her state’s proximity to Russia as evidence of her national security cred. She offers, “As Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border.”

But a glance at a globe shows how misdirected this claim is. No flight from Moscow to Washington would go anywhere near Alaska — they fly over the Atlantic. Take a look at Delta’s flight routes to Moscow. Even flights from San Francisco go over the Atlantic.

To confirm, I plugged some numbers into MapCrow. Sure enough, the transatlantic route from Washington to Moscow is just 4,857 miles. A flight from Washington to Provideniya, Siberia (the closest Russian city to Alaska) is 4,007 miles — and then it’s an additional 3,973 miles to Moscow.

So the Palin route is nearly twice as long as the logical route.

And Palin’s claim that you can see Russia from Alaska is dubious. On a clear day, you can see one sparsely populated Russian island from one sparsely populated Alaskan island.

But it’s OK if her geography’s a little weak — Laura Bush says the GOP’s vice-presidential nominee is a quick study.

http://washingtonindependent.com/7910/palins-confused-geography

[Marx]

Okay, the part about the free "awesome facial" had me laughing out loud. :funny: (I know...I need help. :o )



jag

We ALL need a good laugh every now and then. :cwink:

[souvlaki]

So McCain owns the url voteforthemilf.com:

- URL Registered within ~36 hours of McCain’s Decision to select Palin as running mate
- Redirect sends users specifically to a palin.htm file, but only on the FIRST redirect
- Whois Privacy Information Matches JohnMcCain.com Whois Privacy
- URL Held by same registrar
- Note that the .net and .org versions also redirect to the McCain Campaign Website.

Network Tools.com Trace Route:
- 64.203.107.149 (VoteForTheMILF.com)
- 64.203.107.149 (JohnMcCain.com)

http://www.govgap.com/2008/09/28/john-mccain-own-voteforthemilfcom/

It makes me laugh thinking of the person on McCain's campaign team that thought that url needed to be purchased.

[redfirebird2008]

So McCain owns the url voteforthemilf.com:



http://www.govgap.com/2008/09/28/john-mccain-own-voteforthemilfcom/

It makes me laugh thinking of the person on McCain's campaign team that thought that url needed to be purchased.

:hehe:

[souvlaki]

So I wonder if Biden might pull something like this, only replacing Jack Kennedy with Hillary Clinton:

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One of the best debate moments ever.

[kainedamo]

"That was uncalled for" - what?? He's the one that made the comparison! What a fool.

[danoyse]

I watched that debate. That was insane. In the end it didn't matter, because Dukakis didn't have a chance against Bush. And if you want to talk about historical gaffes, keep in mind Bush did a tribute to the Pearl Harbor anniversary that year on 9/7--when the actual anniversary is 12/7.

If Biden tries anything like that with Palin, he's screwed. That's why they're saying he has to be careful. Her supporters are still angry at Charlie Gibson for asking questions she couldn't answer, can you imagine how they'll be if Biden goes after her like that?

[ShadowBoxing]

I watched that debate. That was insane. In the end it didn't matter, because Dukakis didn't have a chance against Bush. And if you want to talk about historical gaffes, keep in mind Bush did a tribute to the Pearl Harbor anniversary that year on 9/7--when the actual anniversary is 12/7.

If Biden tries anything like that with Palin, he's screwed. That's why they're saying he has to be careful. Her supporters are still angry at Charlie Gibson for asking questions she couldn't answer, can you imagine how they'll be if Biden goes after her like that?
Agreed. Biden's best option is to lead her on and let try to get her to speak on subjects she doesn't understand. He just needs to speak on the issues, because she obviously cannot.

[DorkyFresh]

Biden really doesn't have to do anything. i'm sure the moderator will throw at least a few questions out there that she will fumble over herself without any help from Biden.

[jaguarr]

So McCain owns the url voteforthemilf.com:



http://www.govgap.com/2008/09/28/john-mccain-own-voteforthemilfcom/

It makes me laugh thinking of the person on McCain's campaign team that thought that url needed to be purchased.

:lmao: That is friggin' hilarious! And....yep....sexist! :lmao:

jag

[Knightsaber Priss]

Hey, I'd personally consider it a compliment if young kids thought I was a MILF because that would mean I wasn't an old, wrinkled corpse to them. :p I don't see what's sexist about complimenting the attractiveness of someone not College Age.

Anyways, not quite a political subject (Or is it?) but I am just loving Tina Fey's Sarah Palin skits.

Biden really doesn't have to do anything. i'm sure the moderator will throw at least a few questions out there that she will fumble over herself without any help from Biden.

I can just see the SNL parodies that will birth. :woot:

[jaguarr]

Hey, I'd personally consider it a compliment if young kids thought I was a MILF because that would mean I wasn't an old, wrinkled corpse to them. :p I don't see what's sexist about complimenting the attractiveness of someone not College Age.

Anyways, not quite a political subject (Or is it?) but I am just loving Tina Fey's Sarah Palin skits.



I can just see the SNL parodies that will birth. :woot:

Hey, the McCain Campaign is the one that has been relentlessly attacking anyone and everyone for even asking Palin questions she doesn't know the answers to (but should) or for commenting on her being a woman or saying anything negative about her, accusing them of being sexist. They have accused so many people of being sexist for completely unrelated stuff, it's ridiculous. So to find out they registered a URL for their candidate that basically is "Vote For The Mom I'd Like To F**k.com" is beyond hilarious to me because now THEY are the ones objectifying her as a woman rather than appreciating her for her virtues and qualifications like they lambasted everyone else for not doing. It's laughable. And it explains this:

nOVc9djQUFk

:D

jag