How Should Superman Be Introduced To The World?

[I Am The Knight]

Since this will most likely be an origin story, how should they introduce Superman to the world? In the movies he normally stops some catastrophe or major accident. In TAS and IIRC, Byrne's MOS he stops a crashing plane. Should it be big and bold like in SR? or more subdued and character driven? I personally think it should involve an Intergang operation gone bad, wich puts civilians in danger.

So, how would you introduce Superman in the movie? :hehe:

[dark_b]

Since this will most likely be an origin story, how should they introduce Superman to the world? In the movies he normally stops some catastrophe or major accident. In TAS and IIRC, Byrne's MOS he stops a crashing plane. Should it be big and bold like in SR? or more subdued and character driven? I personally think it should involve an Intergang operation gone bad, wich puts civilians in danger.

So, how would you introduce Superman in the movie? :hehe:i love the plane scene in SR.

but dear lord would this be the perfect introduction scene for an origin movie.
why?
it involves a lot of people in an extreme situation. peopel on the plane can die and people in the city can die. and on top of that t involves flying. the power that everone on sueprman loves.
its a perfect scene for an origin movie. to bad that they will not use it.

[Bad Superman]

A mix of elements between Byrne's MOS and Birthright.

[lujho]

I think NOT being yet another origin story is far more likely. I think we''l open the story with Superman already established - maybe for a few months, maybe years.

I really think that whoever gets to do this will be smart enough to know we don't need it. Retreading old ground was part of what caused the failure of the last film. Another origin would not only be re-treading Superman The Movie, but also Smallville and every other Superhero origin movie in recent years.

What's more important than how Superman is introduced to the world is how he's introduced to us - the very first scene should be an action scene with Superman. I'd love to see bits of Superman's origin retold throughout this series but another full origin is just a waste of an entire movie. Why tell an old story yet again when you could be telling a new one?

[Rust]

I think NOT being yet another origin story is far more likely. I think we''l open the story with Superman already established - maybe for a few months, maybe years.

I really think that whoever gets to do this will be smart enough to know we don't need it. Retreading old ground was part of what caused the failure of the last film. Another origin would not only be re-treading Superman The Movie, but also Smallville and every other Superhero origin movie in recent years.

What's more important than how Superman is introduced to the world is how he's introduced to us - the very first scene should be an action scene with Superman. I'd love to see bits of Superman's origin retold throughout this series but another full origin is just a waste of an entire movie. Why tell an old story yet again when you could be telling a new one?

I agree, but that doesn't mean they cant show us some new stuff from Krypton. I'd like to see more of his parents and the way of life on Krypton. Possibly some civil-war action and what eventually leads to the world's demise.

They should show these parts in flashbacks or maybe prolonged dream-sequences Kal-El could experience.

[I Am The Knight]

What's more important than how Superman is introduced to the world is how he's introduced to us - the very first scene should be an action scene with Superman. I'd love to see bits of Superman's origin retold throughout this series but another full origin is just a waste of an entire movie. Why tell an old story yet again when you could be telling a new one?

Oh, I'm not asking about an origin. I'm asking about the scene in which Superman would make his first appearance to the public :cwink:

[That-Guy]

Yeah, some more Krypton stuff could be cool. I still would like to see the "return to Krypton" scenes from SR, just out of morbid curiousity. I just want to know why Singer dropped them at the last minute.

[BATZARRO WWD]

I'd suggest a Bank heist involving 1 or more helicopters. It'd involve saving civilians, taking down gunnmen, flying and pottentially carrying a huge aircraft singlehandedly.

[Rust]

Oh, I'm not asking about an origin. I'm asking about the scene in which Superman would make his first appearance to the public :cwink:

I know. :) I guess I just responded to lujho's post.

But a re-introduction to the audience?
A bank heist is not big and "spectacular" enough for Superman IMO. And a bank heist is bit of a cliche, no offence.

Saving a plane? Weeeeell.... not exiting enough either. Should be something to blow our minds I think. This IS the most powerful being on the planet.

Hmmm, what about him going up against a level 5 hurricane and somehow divert it, engulf it?
Or catching a meteor?

Hehe, I dunno. Something BIG...

[GreenKToo]

I'd have Clark working in the daily planet ( His First day) He has already been introduced to everyone and is working alone at his desk.

Lois and Jimmy are down at the docks, covering the launch of a new ultra-state-of-the-art cruise ship.

The Governor, mayor, etc are all there to witness the launch. 2,000 vip guests set sail on it's maiden voyage.

The ship humms along slowly, making it's way out of Metroplolis harbor and toward the open sea. Horns blairing in celebration.

Lois and jimmy, their job done, turn to leave when suddenly an explosion rocks the area. Alarms sound. Lois is knocked to her knees by the blast. She looks up and sees the ship is on fire and is starting to list badly. Fire boats and coast guard ships try to make there way through the smoke and flames.

Clark sitting at his desk back at the daily planet. He's typing when he suddenly hears something odd.

Too much clutter. Car horns, a baby crying, street venders. He hears it all. He blocks it all out and concentrates on one sound and one sound only. He has it.

He looks up horrified. He rushes to an empty room, rips open his shirt, and reveals the fimilar \S/, and is gone in a flash.

Dockside: the Ship is listing badly now. Fire and smoke cover over half of it. The coast guard save several, but the fire is to intense to get closer. People are on deck screaming for help.

Jimmy snaps away. He slowly stops, and realizes these people are going to die. He looks at Lois and she gives him the same knowing look.

A red and blue flash passes by. Jimmy sees it but thinks he imagined it and just shakes his head.
The flames suddenly disappear and the ship not only rights itself, but rises out of the water and hovers there, then slowly floats back toward the pier.

Jimmy and Lois both have a ''What the Hell''? look on their faces.

Jimmy takes his camera and zooms in on the ship. He can't believe it. There, at the bottom of the hull is a man carrying the ship like it was nothing.

Speechless, he motions for Lois to look as well. Her jaw drops.

The 1,000 foot long ship flies over the dock and comes to rest on dry land, where it is gently sat down. The man clad in blue and red walks out, and flies up to check on the passengers.

Thousands of cheers erupt from the crowds already gathered.

ambulances, firetrucks, and police all rush to the site. Superman helps get the injuried off, then satisfied that there are no further injuries, makes a platform for the passengers to exit.

Superman hovers down toward the ground and speaks with the mayor for a moment, then turns and flies off.

Jimmy snaps away with his camera.

Lois is awestruck. What a Suuuuperman is all she can say.

Lex Luthor, back in Lex-corp, Sees the site on T.v. and pounds his desk in anger. That would have netted me 400 mill in insurance money, he growls.

[I Am The Knight]

Lois is awestruck. What a Suuuuperman is all she can say.

:hehe:

[SuperDaniel]

He should save a train, be faster than a bullet and fly in the same scene giving him the classic phrases More powerful than a locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

[Astrodust]

Saves a cat from a tree.

[The Guard]

He could stop a war. That'd be kinda cool.

[Excel]

Nothing too grandoise; the action should get bigger as the film goes on.

[The Guard]

Fine. He could stop a battle.

[SuperDaniel]

He does that in my script. Bu that's in the beginning, pre-Superman costume. The first time he is seeing in costume is when he stops an inaugural ride of an LexCorp train from being attacked by Terrorists. Lois is interviewing Luthor inside it. The rest you can figure it out. ;)

[ZIPBAGS]

i love the plane scene in SR.

but dear lord would this be the perfect introduction scene for an origin movie.
why?
it involves a lot of people in an extreme situation. peopel on the plane can die and people in the city can die. and on top of that t involves flying. the power that everone on sueprman loves.
its a perfect scene for an origin movie. to bad that they will not use it.

I disliked Superman Returns. But, from the minute I saw the plane rescue scene. I knew that scene would have been the PERFECT scene to introduce Superman to the world. It had everything.

[That-Guy]

I don't care what they do as long as it involves more than just Superman lifting giant objects above his head, because that's ALL he did in SR.

[COMPO]

Fine. He could stop a battle.

he could do it like Micheal Jackson did it in his "Beat It" video. By making them dance with him.

[Crook]

Another plane rescue would be repetitive. But I'd definitely go for something that utilizes his speed and flight on a grand scale.

I'm thinking something along the lines of saving several people falling from a skyscraper due to a disaster. Or they could do an updated STM route ala Birthright, and have him save Lois and Jimmy from a heli. Only with better effects and more danger to add thrill.

[COMPO]

what if he fought a giant spider or a polar bear?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

what if he fought a giant spider or a polar bear?Amazing ideas!!!!

[That-Guy]

what if he fought a giant spider or a polar bear?

So Jon Peters is back on the project then? :D

[Excel]

Say, Superman hasnt had his monorail action piece yet, has he?

[I Am The Knight]

No, but everyone else has.

[Excel]

Well lets start....name disatser.

-Place crashes
-Train crashes
-Volcanos
-Tidal waves
-Earthquakes
-Fires
-Floods
-Ship sinkings
-Meteor shower
-Shuttle crash
-Hurricane
-Tornado
-Terrorist attack

Ideas?

[I Am The Knight]

Natural disasters for Superman's first outing are a bit much, IMO. Too bad the plane sequence is taken. Argh!

[BATZARRO WWD]

Terrorist attack? I choose to change my heist scene for a Die Hard-ish terrorist attack featuring again, one or more aircraft.

Of course, with Superman instead of Bruce WIlliis, we have a shorter takover. I've always thought Superman's real liabilitie isn't Kryptonite, but saving people. The smart bad guys don't waste bullets on him and just toss someone over the window, or break a bridge. You know, something that hampers him while they run off. Obviously, since this is his first outing, they wouldn't know that, but it could make an otherwise dull action scene with a bulletproof guy more entertaining. That could have saved the heist in returns from dullness.

[That-Guy]

Superman should heal the sick and feed the 5,000.

Oh wait, that's what would have happened if Singer was still on this project.

[afan]

I'm a bit confused by this thread are we discussing the introduction of Superman to the "world" in the film, or rather the first action sequence in a film where Superman is already an established hero?

In either scenario......

A mine collapse, and the rescue should involve a coordination between Superman and the normal emergency responders. I always prefer a Superman who works in conjunction with human's rather than as a god-like savior.

[batlovescatDC]

I hope to god this isn't a straight-out origin film. I don't mind them showing us the origin, explaining it, or flashing back to it. But I hope it's not a complete origin film (basically I hope that the origin isn't the plot-base for the entire film). But if they must do the origin, then I would definitely say that he should be introduced by stopping some big catastrophe. Hell, maybe he can save the president from something.... that would definitely make him known to the world. IDK.

[That-Guy]

Maybe he could save some astronauts on a space station from an asteroid attack or something. Ideally, saving the plane would probably work best, but they did that in SR (one of the few scenes in that movie that worked, other than Lois bouncing around all over the place and not breaking any bones or Supes just letting the ass end of the plane flop down onto the ground).

[SuperDaniel]

Say, Superman hasnt had his monorail action piece yet, has he?

No and I'd like that. Superman stopping a train. C'mon. It's one of the most classic Superman images ever.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, that was one moment that I DON't like from the original Superman film. Since they couldn't make a realistic scene of him stopping the train, they had him lay down and uh... become the track. He wouldn't have save those people; he would have probably killed them all with that trick.

[SuperDaniel]

Plus it looks VERY fake. I mean, the wheels don't even touch him.

[Rust]

I think it looked pretty ok. Never seen a train run over a superman anyway.

Stopping a train would work.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, that was one scene that they should have just left out of the movie. It didn't add anything to the film, really. And yeah... the wheels don't touch him at all. Pretty silly.

[04nbod]

So, how would you introduce Superman in the movie? :hehe:

I'd introduce him kicking a villain's ass on a metropolis street. Forego the origin and get to the story

[lujho]

Oh, I'm not asking about an origin. I'm asking about the scene in which Superman would make his first appearance to the public :cwink:

I know that - I mean we don't need to see THAT again either. We don't need to see Superman's first outing as Superman. That IS still part of an "origin story".

He can just already have been Superman for a while by the first time we see him. He can be punching a robot through a building or facing up against Parasite or something. Everything else people are suggesting is too similar to what we've seen him do a million times.

[Nirvana]

Honestly, I think Superman should not have a single introduction, but rather have it be like a montage similar to Spider-Man. Show Superman sweeping in to defeat criminals, stopping bank robberies, show news footage of him, newspaper headlines, interview civilians...I think that would be pretty cool.

[BATZARRO WWD]

Honestly, I think Superman should not have a single introduction, but rather have it be like a montage similar to Spider-Man. Show Superman sweeping in to defeat criminals, stopping bank robberies, show news footage of him, newspaper headlines, interview civilians...I think that would be pretty cool.

I would disagree. I found the montage annoying in Spider-Man. It's the movie version of saying "he becomes a hero, yadda yadda yadda". It would be one thing for him to slowly do little things to be known, but not in a montage!

[Winking Samurai]

(The movie opens with a montage of human interest pieces on the local news. They say that there have been numerous sightings of a man clad in red and blue doing various good deeds, from as mundane as retrieving a cat from a tree to as dramatic as saving a construction worker from falling to his death. However, since there aren't many witnesses, no one knows what to make of these unusual incidents. The newswoman reporting dubs the man "The Blue Angel". The camera then zooms out to reveal that the staff of the Daily Planet are watching the newscast. Perry then turns off the television.)

Perry: Well? Anyone want to give their two cents?
(Lois raises her hand)

Perry: (Ignoring Lois) Anyone? Anyone at all? (Perry sighs.) Lois?

Lois: There's no story here. It's human interest tripe.

Perry: There are multiple eyewitnesses--

Lois: (cutting off Perry) --Who probably heard about this "Blue Angel" before "miraculously" seeing it themselves! They wanted their 15 minutes of fame, and thanks to newsmakers like you and News 5 that have nothing better to report on, they're getting just that.

Perry: Regardless, it's worth looking into at least. I want some legwork on this. People are really starting to give these rumors pause. I want something from someone on this "Blue Angel" by the end of the week. (The various reporters start to leave the newsroom.) And someone come up with a better name than "Blue Angel"! Something with more--

(The office starts to shake. Furniture and computers begin to topple. A dull roar begins to grow amidst the clatter.)

Perry: Lois! That is not an earthquake! Get outside and find out what the hell is going on!

(Lois was heading for the door before he even started talking.)

(Lois reaches the street and complete pandemonium has ensued, with many running for their lives. She is somewhat perplexed until she notices some people pointing skywards. She looks up and makes an expression of abject horror. The camera follows her gaze and sees a passenger jet heading straight for the square, smoke billowing from one of the engines. The roar is deafening at this point. Lois has only enough time to shut her eyes and brace herself...

But nothing happens. The roar is still there but begins to subside slowly. The camera is still zoomed in on Lois's shut eyes while we hear gasps and the shouts of surprise. Lois finally musters up the courage to open her eyes to find that not 50 feet away the jet is being held in place by a man wearing a blue suit with a red cape and a red "S" on his chest. Despite holding such tremendous weight, the man seems to be much more preoccupied with the people below. His face is a mix of concern and unease, as he starts to slowly fly away with the jet, now completely silent. No one says a word, until Lois finally breaks the silence.)

Lois: Wow.

(All at once, the crowd burst into cheering and applause. Smiling slightly, Superman flies away from the crowd and the city to set the jet down in a safe place. The camera then cuts to an enormous office, where a bald man, smartly dressed, peers down at the scene with a mix of disdain and masked fear.)

Opening Credits roll.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Thats neat, I like it but I don't want his first apperance to be him saving a plane full of people again. Unfortunately for us, Singer already used that, thus making the scene redundant to me.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

I've seen fanfics and scripts that begin with Krypton's destruction, or Krypton being in the middle of a war. These usually lead to Supes' pops sending him via rocket to Earth. Something actiony like that might be good to let the audience know this isn't another semi-soap opera.

For the sake of the topic, this would introduce the world--Earth--to baby Superman, but not the general populace.