Who do you think should retire from music

[Spiritinthesky]

OK, enough is enough, who do you think should stop making a fool of themselves and pack it all in!

'Start Me Up' sang Mick Jagger in 1981, (he's now 65).
Are 66 year old Paul McCartney's troubles still so far away, or can't he remember that far back?

Should Madonna be dressing like an 18 year-old?

Will Michael Jackson ever 'Beat It?'

Is Elton John 'Still Standing?'

'Yeah, I hope I die before I get old' sang The Who.

To vote for who you think should retire
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[JaD]

Michael McDonald.

No offense to him but if I hear Yah Mo Be There one more time, I'm gonna Yah Mo burn this place to the ground.

[Manic]

I voted Madonna, if only because she's never been that talented and she's finally running out of gimmicks to grab people's attention.

I came really close to voting for Axel Rose, though.

I think Michael Jackson should retire from singing, and make a living writing and producing for others. Today's artists would pay out the ass to have an original song made by Michael Jackson (solving his financial woes), and it'd take him out of the paparazzi's spotlight.

I think rocking is the only thing actually keeping the Rolling Stones alive, so I'm afraid to see them retire.

[AxlsAppetite]

I voted Madonna, if only because she's never been that talented and she's finally running out of gimmicks to grab people's attention.

I came really close to voting for Axel Rose, though.

I think Michael Jackson should retire from singing, and make a living writing and producing for others. Today's artists would pay out the ass to have an original song made by Michael Jackson (solving his financial woes), and it'd take him out of the paparazzi's spotlight.

I think rocking is the only thing actually keeping the Rolling Stones alive, so I'm afraid to see them retire.
I would've have drop kicked you in the face so f'ing hard if you did.

[Manic]

I would've have drop kicked you in the face so f'ing hard if you did.
You... you mean you're one of the people who listens to the new Guns N Roses? I've never met one of you before.

[AxlsAppetite]

You... you mean you're one of the people who listens to the new Guns N Roses? I've never met one of you before.
then you must not know alot of people that listen to Guns period. They still sell out concerts just like they did back then. the only deference i see in Axl is the clothing and that he doesn't run around the stage anymore. Any true GnR fan still listens to them? i'm downloading a audience recording concert from 2006 right now.

[Lighthouse]

The Rolling Stones seriously need to give it up.

[Manic]

then you must not know alot of people that listen to Guns period. They still sell out concerts just like they did back then. the only deference i see in Axl is the clothing and that he doesn't run around the stage anymore. Any true GnR fan still listens to them? i'm downloading a audience recording concert from 2006 right now.
I've talked to GnR fans who gave up on the band when Axel showed up a few years ago with an almost entirely new group of people. One guy even called them "Axel Rose and the new guys" because he refuses to refer to them as Guns N Roses. But maybe I'm just talking to the bitter ex-fans from the 80s and 90s or something.

[adhokk7]

You... you mean you're one of the people who listens to the new Guns N Roses? I've never met one of you before.

I am one.

[AxlsAppetite]

I've talked to GnR fans who gave up on the band when Axel showed up a few years ago with an almost entirely new group of people. One guy even called them "Axel Rose and the new guys" because he refuses to refer to them as Guns N Roses. But maybe I'm just talking to the bitter ex-fans from the 80s and 90s or something.
Maybe you are. to me new gnr is just as good as old gnr in their own way. Im tired of ex-fans b****ing and whining about Slash not being there. i think the only reason why people hate axl is because of the way he was made out to be in the media.

[Colossal Spoons]

Mariah Carey!

[BLACKVULCAN]

Freaking Gene Simmons and Kiss.
Those dudes are like what 90? with make-up on??
they were just here last Friday night. Freaking put down the boots and make-up already! How much money do you need Bro?
That dude needs an intervention.

[amazingfantasy15]

The Rolling Stones seriously need to give it up.

Why? They're live shows are still good, plus they've still got the core of the band up there. If Mick or Keith died, I say yes pack it up, but as long as they can still play, I say keep on playing. Charlie Watts and Ronnie Wood are important parts too, but Mick and Keith are the real draws, I've only seen them once in '99, but I'd love to see them again.

I've talked to GnR fans who gave up on the band when Axel showed up a few years ago with an almost entirely new group of people. One guy even called them "Axel Rose and the new guys" because he refuses to refer to them as Guns N Roses. But maybe I'm just talking to the bitter ex-fans from the 80s and 90s or something.

The new GnR isn't GnR, it's more like a tribute band. I'd love to see Axl and Slash bury the hatchet and tour again, but it probably won't happen (never say never after seeing Van Halen with DLR this summer). Maybe when (if) Chinese Democracy comes out it'll gain this new GnR a little legitmacy, but not holding my breath. That said, still love listening to the old stuff, they are the perfect example of a band that got too big too fast and couldn't handle it. Appetite is probably one of the best albums of all time.

As for who I think should pack it up, Madonna or Cher, both sucked then and still suck now.

[chaseter]

Tobey Keith, Madonna, Britney Spears (I mean she cannot sing for ****), anybody that was popular 20-30 years ago and is now back, and Mariah Carrey.

[amazingfantasy15]

Freaking Gene Simmons and Kiss.
Those dudes are like what 90? with make-up on??
they were just here last Friday night. Freaking put down the boots and make-up already! How much money do you need Bro?
That dude needs an intervention.

Yeah, they should probably pack it up too. Yeah, it's fun to see them once for the show they put on, but that's about it, most of their songs aren't even that great. Funny, I was wearing my "Farewell Tour" t-shirt the other day while doing laundry and noticed it was from 2000, I've seen them with other bands twice since then and it's still being promoted as the Farewell Tour, I don't even think they were the headliners.

[AxlsAppetite]

The new GnR isn't GnR, it's more like a tribute band. I'd love to see Axl and Slash bury the hatchet and tour again, but it probably won't happen (never say never after seeing Van Halen with DLR this summer). Maybe when (if) Chinese Democracy comes out it'll gain this new GnR a little legitmacy, but not holding my breath. That said, still love listening to the old stuff, they are the perfect example of a band that got too big too fast and couldn't handle it. Appetite is probably one of the best albums of all time.

As for who I think should pack it up, Madonna or Cher, both sucked then and still suck now.
By "It" do you mean fame? if you are that statement is wrong on so many levels. nobody left because they couldn't handle it. Steven was fired for not being able to play. Izzy left because he didnt like the touring. Duff sobered up and started a family. Slash left because Axl replaced his parts on a song with Paul Tobias'. Matt just left.

But i can live with your first statement, not as bad as when people dont even give em a chance and just say they suck.

[Leto Atrides]

Well Britney Spears should if only for her own health and that of her family, but Madonna. She probably has the most media presence of any of those acts, and has put out nothing but crap for more than a decade.

People like the Who, McCartney, Rolling Stones, etc. aren't doing anything new, but they also aren't bothering anyone and pretty much still perform so that you can go see the Who play their classics or whatever. And despite Michael Jackson's problems, he can still put out decent music if he tries.

Madonna is musically irrelevant, and is artificially maintained as a fashion/trend icon because the media wants her to be one. At most she should just have a Vegas show like Celine Dion. She could get all the money and fawning over her that she wants, and she can become enshrined icon of the past.

[chaseter]

Britney Spears should retire period...no clauses attached.

[hpwiz89]

Madonna

[Eggyman]

Oasis.

- Liam's singing has gone really bad - it was never a spectacular voice, but he used to be able to sing with a lot more balls.

- You always hear Noel on about how the next album is 'like Definitely Maybe', or 'more like before', because he knows that they peeked on their second album. You still get the odd gem (not the guitar player :o), but the actual albums are pretty poor as a whole, with a lot of the songs sounding like a parody of the old classics.

- I said Oasis, not the individuals, because I'd like to maybe get a Noel acoustic album, maybe.

- But Oasis are doing nothing now apart from dying very, very . . . slowly.

Makes me sad to say it, being a Manc, but it's the truth.

R.I.P.

[Dkim]

I wish I could say Britney Spears but I still got a soft spot for her (how lame does that sound :o) So it would be Axle rose for me I just cant stand him, at all.

[amazingfantasy15]

Oasis.

- Liam's singing has gone really bad - it was never a spectacular voice, but he used to be able to sing with a lot more balls.

- You always hear Noel on about how the next album is 'like Definitely Maybe', or 'more like before', because he knows that they peeked on their second album. You still get the odd gem (not the guitar player :o), but the actual albums are pretty poor as a whole, with a lot of the songs sounding like a parody of the old classics.

- I said Oasis, not the individuals, because I'd like to maybe get a Noel acoustic album, maybe.

- But Oasis are doing nothing now apart from dying very, very . . . slowly.

Makes me sad to say it, being a Manc, but it's the truth.

R.I.P.

Oasis is still around?!?! I thought they left the game years ago. I remember them having a few hits my freshman and sophmore year of college 10 years ago, but that's about it.

[Raiden]

The new GnR isn't GnR, it's more like a tribute band. I'd love to see Axl and Slash bury the hatchet and tour again, but it probably won't happen (never say never after seeing Van Halen with DLR this summer). Maybe when (if) Chinese Democracy comes out it'll gain this new GnR a little legitmacy, but not holding my breath. That said, still love listening to the old stuff, they are the perfect example of a band that got too big too fast and couldn't handle it. Appetite is probably one of the best albums of all time.

As for who I think should pack it up, Madonna or Cher, both sucked then and still suck now.

I have to say that while I don't really care much about the new GnR (but maybe Chinese Democracy will change my mind), I actually came to like the old GnR songs (particular their brilliant Appetite for Destruction album) more than back in the 80's (I used to like Bon Jovi more than GnR :whatever:). But now, both Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungles are on my favorite song list.

To answer the OP question, my vote goes to Gene Simmons and Kiss, Rolling Stones, and other bands that should be in retirement homes.

[Eggyman]

Oasis is still around?!?! I thought they left the game years ago. I remember them having a few hits my freshman and sophmore year of college 10 years ago, but that's about it.

Thank you for reinforcing my point :cwink:

[Nirvana]

To quote Kurt Cobain on Guns & Roses.

AD: Is there anything about Guns N’ Roses’ music you like?

KC: I can’t think of a damn thing. I can’t even waste my time on that band, because they’re so obviously pathetic and untalented. I used to think that everything in the mainstream pop world was crap, but now that some underground bands have been signed with majors, I take Guns N’ Roses as more of an offense. I have to look into it more: They’re really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they’re the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can’t believe it.

[Green Lantern]

I've talked to GnR fans who gave up on the band when Axel showed up a few years ago with an almost entirely new group of people. One guy even called them "Axel Rose and the new guys" because he refuses to refer to them as Guns N Roses. But maybe I'm just talking to the bitter ex-fans from the 80s and 90s or something.I'm not one to think it's not the band without Slash. Screw that. Its not the band without Izzy.

[JustABill]

Celine Deon.

[The Chairman]

McCartney, The Rolling Stones, The Who and Elton all need to keep on doing what they're doing. They're still regularly producing top notch material and their lives shows are better than any show artists half their age can put on. Plus, they manage to do it all without the least bit of self parody injected.

I'm tempted to say Tony Bennett should finally pack it in because his voice has REALLY thinned out, but if he did, there'd be no one to keep that era of music alive.

That being said, I think Madonna, Dylan, and Ozzy shoud all pack it in.

[Green Lantern]

A month ago I'd have been tempted to say Metallica should pack it in, but after hearing the leaked new album my faith has been restored in the gods of metal.

[thedeadite]

I know who shouldn't. The Beach Boys.
I was reluctant to go see them when they played here last week (even though I consider them the best rock and roll band of all time) since it's just Mike Love and some other guys. A girl at work had free tickets though and knowing my extreme love for the band hooked me up with them. I must say, the show was GREAT! So glad I went. They put on a great show and even Love still sounded great. Mind you, I could have done without Darlin', Kokomo and the 2 other Love originals.

In closing, Mike Love should retire from writing music (and probably never should have in the first place) but he sure as hell should keep preforming.

[The Chairman]

I know who shouldn't. The Beach Boys.
I was reluctant to go see them when they played here last week (even though I consider them the best rock and roll band of all time) since it's just Mike Love and some other guys. A girl at work had free tickets though and knowing my extreme love for the band hooked me up with them. I must say, the show was GREAT! So glad I went. They put on a great show and even Love still sounded great. Mind you, I could have done without Darlin', Kokomo and the 2 other Love originals.

In closing, Mike Love should retire from writing music (and probably never should have in the first place) but he sure as hell should keep preforming.

The Beach Boys is not The Beach Boys without the Wilson Brothers.

[tzarinna]

Ozzy Osbourne, seeing him on stage is just sad.

[The Chairman]

Ozzy is pathetic these days.

[gap5ewl]

Music is a form of expression and it doesn't go away once you grow old. Besides, the Stones still got it.

[Leto Atrides]

To quote Kurt Cobain on Guns & Roses.
Well if Kurt Cobain thought so it MUST be true.

[AndThePickles]

Mariah Carey, PLEASE!

[Obi-Ron]

Music is a form of expression and it doesn't go away once you grow old.

:word: word

[Nirvana]

Well if Kurt Cobain thought so it MUST be true.

Describes how I feel about them, so that's good for me. :up:

[OctaviusINC]

Ringo Star.

The guy still tours, doesn't he? Who goes to see him. Seriously.

Name 3 Ringo Starr solo career songs without using the internet. Go ahead.

[adhokk7]

Ringo Star.

The guy still tours, doesn't he? Who goes to see him. Seriously.

Name 3 Ringo Starr solo career songs without using the internet. Go ahead.

Vertical Man
Come On Christmas, Christmas Come On
Husbands And Wives

:cmad:

[OctaviusINC]

Vertical Man
Come On Christmas, Christmas Come On
Husbands And Wives

:cmad:

Alright, you got me.

I'm leaving...forever.

:csad:

[adhokk7]

Alright, you got me.

I'm leaving...forever.

:csad:

Well, I'm a bit old, so maybe I'm not really the right demographic to use to make your point. :word:

[muertevilla]

disturbed. they should have stopped after their first album. geezus herbert christ.

[BatSpider]

Soulja Boy :down

He should just retire form life! :oldrazz:

jk, life is precious

But stop the "music" kid http://vivalatusi.9.forumer.com/html/emoticons/vivalatusi/abalepalm.png (javascript:add_smilie(":balepalm:"))

[The Chairman]

If that's the case, The Jonas Brothers should quit as soon as possible.

[Tigerking]

Soulja Boy.....

[BMM]

Soulja Boy :down

He should just retire form life! :oldrazz:

jk, life is precious

But stop the "music" kid http://vivalatusi.9.forumer.com/html/emoticons/vivalatusi/abalepalm.png (http://javascript<b></b>:add_smilie(":balepalm:"))

:up:



Hinder.

[spike spiegel]

Miley Cyrus. She's way too young to have that kind of spotlight.

Give her ten or so more years, a baby fathered by Kevin Jonas in her lap in the front seat of a car, an eating disorder, a divorce, a drug addiction, something that can she can say that will offend an entire demographic, and THEN she'll be ready to make music.

Then the media can effectively notice her.

And everyone will talk about her then.

[Heretic]

Ozzy Osbourne and KISS. Both have tunred into jokes and are hurting their legacies with each passing year.

And GNR had more talent than Kurt Cobain ever thought of having.

But W Axl...what do you mean Steven was fired for not being able to play? I hope you mean that it was a drug induced inability, because his drumming style fit GNR far better than Matt Sorum.

[Leto Atrides]

Ozzy Osbourne and KISS. Both have tunred into jokes and are hurting their legacies with each passing year.

I've never taken Kiss seriously, but agree on Ozzy. He's been a mumbling, shuffling puppet of his wife for years now, it's embarrassing to watch.

[Mr.Webs]

Well, I'm a bit old, so maybe I'm not really the right demographic to use to make your point. :word:

The No No Song
I Was Walkin
Step Lightly

And I'm 18.:up:

Anyway, Chairman, Tony Bennet's voice might be as astonishing as it once was, but I saw him in concert only a few months ago, and he can still blow the roof right off with those pipes of his. BUT, if he did retire, we still have Michael Buble to continue that old-fashioned, wonderful music.

[Heretic]

I've never taken Kiss seriously, but agree on Ozzy. He's been a mumbling, shuffling puppet of his wife for years now, it's embarrassing to watch.

KISS has never been a talented or really respected band...and thats because their music and lyrics are mostly cheese flavored cotton candy. However, they carved out a huge following somehow (at least for the original line-up) and its just getting pathetic watching them cart out replacements wearing Ace and Peters make-up.

[Warhammer]

I'll tell you who will never retire from music.

Jay-Z.

The man retired twice.

:o

[JayCaz]

I think Paul McCartney should retire, but continue to write for other people.

I feel he is still a credible song writer (ish) but the stuff he churns out nowadays is absolute cack compared to his best stuff, so when we hear it, we say 'this is cack'. Whereas if these tunes were coming from a fresh young upstart, we'd probably think they were great. Noel Gallagher has the same problem.

So yeah, my vote goes to Mr. McCartney.

[JayCaz]

Oh hang on, I'll say Elton John too. The guy is complete bollocks. Can't sing anymore, could never write lyrics anyway, and churns out album after album of crap (ala Rod Stewart).

The only thing I like about Elton John is his Bo' Selecta character.

[Eggyman]

Oh hang on, I'll say Elton John too. The guy is complete bollocks. Can't sing anymore, could never write lyrics anyway, and churns out album after album of crap (ala Rod Stewart).

The only thing I like about Elton John is his Bo' Selecta character.

:lmao:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4343/255476pa6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'm going to BUM you!!!!!

[Darthphere]

To quote Kurt Cobain on Guns & Roses.

Considering the only reason Nirvana is even spoken about is because he put a bullet in his face, I wouldn't take the man's word on anything.

[Rac]

Sonata Arctica

****ing hate those idiots. Even their crew is full of *****uckers.

[Heffer Wolf]

Considering the only reason Nirvana is even spoken about is because he put a bullet in his face, I wouldn't take the man's word on anything.

Really? I thought it was a little hair metal killer called Nevermind

[kane9321]

50 cent

p-diddy

[Leto Atrides]

Really? I thought it was a little hair metal killer called Nevermind

Supplanting LA Guns and Cinderella in popularity among teenagers is not the biggest achievement in the world.

[Darthphere]

Really? I thought it was a little hair metal killer called Nevermind

Nirvana would be irrelevant today if not for some douchebag killing himself.

[Nirvana]

Sonata Arctica

****ing hate those idiots. Even their crew is full of *****uckers.

Really? I think Sonata Arctica are really talented. I'm really looking forward to seeing them with Nightwish in a couple weeks.

[Obi-Ron]

KISS has never been a talented or really respected band...and thats because their music and lyrics are mostly cheese flavored cotton candy. However, they carved out a huge following somehow (at least for the original line-up) and its just getting pathetic watching them cart out replacements wearing Ace and Peters make-up.

Kiss puts on a kickass live show, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Leto Atrides]

Nirvana would be irrelevant today if not for some douchebag killing himself.

I wouldn't go quite this far, but it's undeniable that their canonical status was helped a lot by Cobain killing himself. If they had been around for a while, put out albums of declining quality, and faded out of the limelight like pretty much any other musician he and the band wouldn't have the status they do.

There are plenty of people like this, like Buddy Holly. Was he good? Yes. Were there other people like Bill Haley and Little Richard who were more important, and as good if not better? Yes. But they got to become goofy old man who could be ignored and written off, while Holly died while he was still the big thing in music.

[Heretic]

Kiss puts on a kickass live show, I don't know what you're talking about.


fter decades of saying thaat make-up was an extension of each members individuality, they simply dropped two members and put new guys in the same make-up. I am all for giving them a new legacy and continuing...KISS are kind of the super heroes of rock...but retreading Ace and Peter is an insult.

[Heretic]

Really? I thought it was a little hair metal killer called Nevermind

Hair metal killed itself...sales were WAY down across the board before Nirvana came along.

And for the record, I would take Cinderella or LA Guns over Nirvana any day of the week.

[adhokk7]

Hair metal killed itself...sales were WAY down across the board before Nirvana came along.

And for the record, I would take Cinderella or LA Guns over Nirvana any day of the week.

I can kind of see LA Guns, but Cinderella? Really?

[Heretic]

I can kind of see LA Guns, but Cinderella? Really?

Cinderella was actually more of a rock n roll band than a hair metal band...the image of the time really kind of defined them, even though much of their music is more classic and blues influenced rock music. They were also one of the best live bands Iive ever seen.

[adhokk7]

Cinderella was actually more of a rock n roll band than a hair metal band...the image of the time really kind of defined them, even though much of their music is more classic and blues influenced rock music. They were also one of the best live bands Iive ever seen.

Yeah, I'm with you on them being a less of a hair band and more of a bluesy rock band, and I dig Cinderella for the most part. For me, though, their best songs (for instance, Bad Seamstress Blues/Falling Apart At The Seams, Gypsy Road, and Shake Me) didn't really come close to Nirvana's best songs (for instance, Floyd The Barber, School, and Smells Like Teen Spirit) and their worst songs (Don't Know What You Got, If You Don't Like It, Fire And Ice) were much worse than Nirvana's (In Bloom, Come As You Are, Been A Son). That's just me, though. It's cool seeing others who know Cinderella as more than spandex and hairspray. :up:

[Leto Atrides]

Yeah, Glam metal (hair metal is kind of a patronizing name for it) and hard rock overlapped quite a bit, bands more like Van Halen were actually metal proper. I was honestly just citing really over the top bands that couldn't have stayed at the top for too long anyway. It's not a knock on their music, it was just so much it could only last so long.

Rap, if anything, had been chipping away at metal/hard rock as the major genre of popular music in the late 80s/early 90s.

[Heretic]

I dumped the hair metal bandwagon before most did, and discovered Sub Pop and the Seattle scene long before it became a national trend. I ordered Nirvanas Bleach in the first Sub Pop catalog that featured it. I liked it. I also think that Nevermind is a rare incendiary album...it sounds like the cd will combust while listening to it (I'll throw GNR's Appetite in with that as well, and a recent example would be Mondo Generator's latest Dead Planet). However, I just never really "got" Kurt Cobain. I never found him to be particularly talented, and like Jim Morrison, I found his lyrics to be a jumbled mess rather than some sort of poetry. His post-death ascendance to rock music godhood left a bad taste in my mouth since Nirvana was easily the 4th best grunge band (if that) and Nevermind wasnt even the best album of 1992.

[Heretic]

Yeah, Glam metal (hair metal is kind of a patronizing name for it) and hard rock overlapped quite a bit, bands more like Van Halen were actually metal proper. I was honestly just citing really over the top bands that couldn't have stayed at the top for too long anyway. It's not a knock on their music, it was just so much it could only last so long.

Rap, if anything, had been chipping away at metal/hard rock as the major genre of popular music in the late 80s/early 90s.

I will throw in Tesla as a great example of this. That band should be considered Classic Rock. They should be touring with the remnants of Foghat or The Black Crowes or some band that has credibility as a rock n roll band. However, they came out in the late 80's and are therefore looked at as creampuff hair metal.

[Nirvana]

Freddie Mercury, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, and Jim Morrison should retire from music. :down

[amazingfantasy15]

KISS has never been a talented or really respected band...and thats because their music and lyrics are mostly cheese flavored cotton candy. However, they carved out a huge following somehow (at least for the original line-up) and its just getting pathetic watching them cart out replacements wearing Ace and Peters make-up.

It's not really a secret how they carved out that audience, what they did in their live shows and the makeup. Plus that they're the biggest merchandising whores ever to be in music. Even Disney produced singers/"bands" can't come close to how much Kiss sold out.

[amazingfantasy15]

To quote Kurt Cobain on Guns & Roses.

AD: Is there anything about Guns N’ Roses’ music you like?

KC: I can’t think of a damn thing. I can’t even waste my time on that band, because they’re so obviously pathetic and untalented. I used to think that everything in the mainstream pop world was crap, but now that some underground bands have been signed with majors, I take Guns N’ Roses as more of an offense. I have to look into it more: They’re really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they’re the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can’t believe it.

Screw Kurt Cobain, GnR had ten times the talent of Nirvana. Name one bad song on Appetite for Destruction, go ahead I'll wait.

[adhokk7]

I will throw in Tesla as a great example of this. That band should be considered Classic Rock. They should be touring with the remnants of Foghat or The Black Crowes or some band that has credibility as a rock n roll band. However, they came out in the late 80's and are therefore looked at as creampuff hair metal.

Totally agree with this. I was a DJ at my college station in the late 80s and after a few months, I was assigned the Friday night metal show. That, the metal show, ran from 8:00 - midnight, so for the first two hours of my shift (6:00 - midnight), I played more mainstream rock. It never failed that once the metal had started, I would get a couple of dozen calls from people wanting to hear Tesla or The Who or Sex Pistols. I concede that the definitions for the various subgenres of rock are subjective, but come on.

That said, I always played the Tesla requests.

[adhokk7]

Screw Kurt Cobain, GnR had ten times the talent of Nirvana. Name one bad song on Appetite for Destruction, go ahead I'll wait.

Sweet Child O' Mine. Hated that song. It reeked of being the ballad the studio insisted on including for the girls. The rest of the album was fantastic, but that song was no good.

[Nirvana]

Screw Kurt Cobain, GnR had ten times the talent of Nirvana. Name one bad song on Appetite for Destruction, go ahead I'll wait.

I wouldn't know. I don't like ****ty music.

[Warhammer]

Slash, himself, had more talent than Nirvana.

[The Chairman]

The No No Song
I Was Walkin
Step Lightly

And I'm 18.:up:

Anyway, Chairman, Tony Bennet's voice might be as astonishing as it once was, but I saw him in concert only a few months ago, and he can still blow the roof right off with those pipes of his. BUT, if he did retire, we still have Michael Buble to continue that old-fashioned, wonderful music.

Buble is the reason Bennett shouldn't retire, for Buble is a talentless hack.

[Drizzle]

I wouldn't know. I don't like ****ty music.
Stop with the douchebaggery. Grunge died with Cobain. Deal with it.

[Heretic]

Stop with the douchebaggery. Grunge died with Cobain. Deal with it.

Actually Grunge never died...it just got watered down. All forms of music, once it goes mainstream, gets watered down to fit mass consumption, and due to the fact that its being played by people who are just trying to rip off a couple of bands from 6 months ago. Grunge managed to stay popular long enough to eventually replace mainstream music...and has been watered down to be essentially the same sound. Creed was Post-Grunge...as is say...Shinedown or any number of todays popular bands. The music has just completely lost its ties with the original intent of the architects of the movement, like Emo is doing now.

[Dark Victory]

Jonas Brothers

[Nirvana]

Stop with the douchebaggery. Grunge died with Cobain. Deal with it.

But see, I'm not *****ing about how great of an artist Cobain is or how he was much more talented than Guns & Roses. That was everyone else. I'm just merely pointing out the fact that Guns & Roses are a ****ty band. I just found that quote by Cobain (who I obviously have a liking for hence my name) the most appropriate because Guns & Roses are ****. Not sure where I ever mentioned Grudge or how much more talented Cobain is anywhere. Reading comprehension goes a long way. :whatever:

And if me not listening to ****ty music (Guns & Roses) makes me a douche bag, I guess I'll wear the badge proudly. :up:

[Leto Atrides]

You came into a thread with your name and directly quoted Kurt Cobain dissing a metal band. Did you really think people weren't going to bring it up?

[Nirvana]

It kind of sucks really, I went through a Nirvana phase in middle school, stopped listening to them but still stuck with my universal screen name (Nirvana1375) so it's kind of like a direct target against me. Oh well. I still stand by very strongly that G&R are garbage. :up:

[Mr.Webs]

Buble is the reason Bennett shouldn't retire, for Buble is a talentless hack. Come on now. Buble might have softened the sound, put a more pop feel to it, but, he's a step in the right direction.

[Rac]

Really? I think Sonata Arctica are really talented. I'm really looking forward to seeing them with Nightwish in a couple weeks.
I used to like their old stuff when they were released (Ecliptica, Silence) but not so much these days. The new stuff is just dull and crap. I couldn't even finish their newest last year.

And try to be a roadie for them. Jeez. I "kinda" "get"/"understand" that the band themselves have piss on their head because they are a "succesful" band, but that their crew too! The head dude, my God, what an *******! I pray that next year they won't be at same rock festival where I am working. At least not on the same stage! I only like the bomb guy (or pyro techinician :cwink:). He's nice and down-to-earth -type of dude.

The singer, Tony Kakko, has got a nickname in Finnish rock circles: Tony Kakka. Kakka means literally poo in English. You know, Kakko -> Kakka, ehee.

[NewYorkSpider]

Oasis.
- Liam's singing has gone really bad - it was never a spectacular voice, but he used to be able to sing with a lot more balls.


They did a concert in Vancouver about a week ago. From what I heard, people were saying that Liam's voice has gotten better.

[04nbod]

I hate to say it but Dave Grohl and the Foos. They haven't had a good song since Best of You and I doubt they'll have another 'everlong'

[jks]

One guy even called them "Axel Rose and the new guys" because he refuses to refer to them as Guns N Roses.
"tubby McPredatorhair and the guys that ain't slash"


Not only is calling his solo band guns n roses a slap in the face to gnr's legacy and fans, so is he music they've made.

[jks]

To quote Kurt Cobain on Guns & Roses.

Quote:
AD: Is there anything about Guns N’ Roses’ music you like?

KC: I can’t think of a damn thing. I can’t even waste my time on that band, because they’re so obviously pathetic and untalented. I used to think that everything in the mainstream pop world was crap, but now that some underground bands have been signed with majors, I take Guns N’ Roses as more of an offense. I have to look into it more: They’re really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they’re the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can’t believe it.


Uhhh, surely I'm not the only one who sees the irony of kurt cobain of all people calling ANYONE talentless and calling ANYONE else out about writing crap music.....

[jks]

Really? I thought it was a little hair metal killer called Nevermind
Ironically enough bands like poison and motley crue still tour and draw pretty decent crowds. How many grunge bands are still out there?


ps, please dont let media brainwash you, the hair metal scene was dying out by 1990. Nevermind had as much to do with killing it as metallica's S/T

[jks]

I wouldn't know. I don't like ****ty music.
...but you're sitting here defending kurt cobain and have a screen name of nirvana....how does that work, exactly?

[The Chairman]

Come on now. Buble might have softened the sound, put a more pop feel to it, but, he's a step in the right direction.

No, even when he was closer to the original sound of that music he was never that good at all. He has a decent voice and makes for pleasant background music. But he puts no soul into his music and never makes you take notice of his sound. He also lacks charisma and his attempts at developing rapport with his audience are not that great at all. He's like any other lounge singer. Nothing special about him whatsoever.

[danoyse]

OK, enough is enough, who do you think should stop making a fool of themselves and pack it all in!

'Start Me Up' sang Mick Jagger in 1981, (he's now 65).
Are 66 year old Paul McCartney's troubles still so far away, or can't he remember that far back?

Should Madonna be dressing like an 18 year-old?

Will Michael Jackson ever 'Beat It?'

Is Elton John 'Still Standing?'

'Yeah, I hope I die before I get old' sang The Who.

To vote for who you think should retire
go to http://www.thisdayinmusic.com


I've seen The Who, The Rolling Stones, Elton John, and Paul McCartney in concert in the last 10 years. Haven't seen a bad show from any of them yet, so no...I don't think they should retire.

However I'm fairly certain the world could have done without a New Kids on the Block reunion.

[The Chairman]

I've seen The Who, The Rolling Stones, Elton John, and Paul McCartney in concert in the last 10 years. Haven't seen a bad show from any of them yet, so no...I don't think they should retire.

However I'm fairly certain the world could have done without a New Kids on the Block reunion.

I'm fairly certain their original incarnation was not needed, either.

I've seen all of those acts except McCartney (who, if the rumors are true, is supposed to close down Yankee Stadium this October, so I'll see him then), and they're all among the Best Shows I've ever seen.

[JayCaz]

I'm sorry, but Lou ****ing Reed, the guy hasn't got a note left in his ****ing head

[danoyse]

I'm fairly certain their original incarnation was not needed, either.

I've seen all of those acts except McCartney (who, if the rumors are true, is supposed to close down Yankee Stadium this October, so I'll see him then), and they're all among the Best Shows I've ever seen.

Really? I hadn't heard that one. I'm going to London in October, I'm sure that's the week he'll end up playing there.

[Nirvana]

...but you're sitting here defending kurt cobain and have a screen name of nirvana....how does that work, exactly?

But I'm not defending Kurt Cobain. :huh: I don't give a damn if any of you think he is talentless or anything, more power to you if that's what you think. I never mentioned Cobain being superior to Axel Rose. I'm just reinforcing that Guns & Roses are ****. :up:

[JayCaz]

that brings me back to my point, McCartney will fill ANY arena, but it's full of people wanting to hear Yesterday and Band on the run, not any of his recent stuff

[The Chairman]

Really? I hadn't heard that one. I'm going to London in October, I'm sure that's the week he'll end up playing there.

Well, you did get to see gim with Billy at Shae. That should be consolation. http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

The big rumor is it's going to either be Paul or Springsteen. Paul's a more logical bet seeing as how he has a new album coing out right around that time and is in the midst of starting a new tour.

[The Chairman]

that brings me back to my point, McCartney will fill ANY arena, but it's full of people wanting to hear Yesterday and Band on the run, not any of his recent stuff

Not true. Paul's new stuff is excellent and tons of fans who totally would love to hear the new stuff live. In fact, I've been a member of McCartney forums for a few years, and the most common complaint among fans is that his new stuff and his Wings stuff are never given enough representation in concert.

Also, so what if most of the audience wants to hear the old stuff. When most people go see McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Springsteen, Elton, etc., they want to hear the hits. They're the songs that give off the most energy to the audience which only benefits the musician's performance.

Plus, I've seen Billy Joel 3 times now. He hasn't released anything new in almost 15 years except for one song, and all of his concerts are entirely made up of his old hits. I've yet to see a better concert by anybody.

[JayCaz]

read my earlier post about McCartney. Plus, I have Carte Blanche, he's one of my homies. Dems the rules.

[The Chairman]

I read it and I completely disagree. Memory Almost Full was the best album he has done since Tug Of War. It was a fresh, inspired album and Paul did the songs perfectly. They fit him just well. It was a classic McCartney album with great hooks and melodies and witty, informal lyrics that make Paul one of the greats. I would dread to think what someone like Lillie Allen or some upstart could've done with it. Also, Paul's voice has seriously not diminished at all. All of his songs are still in their original key and he can still wail when necessary. That alone shows he should keep it up as long he feels is necessary. Besides, his next tour will be his last anyway, according to him.

Oh, and I disagree with you on Elton vehemently. He's a great musician (and Bernie serves him well with lyrics) and his last few albums were excellent. His voice went down to cancerous legions back around 1987 but he can still sing with the same feeling and emotion he did 30 years ago. Watch his 60th Birthday concert. He was phenomenal.

[JayCaz]

I'm sorry but regarding Elton you're dillusional. He couldn't hold a note if his life depended on it.

I know about the legions, but his voice has gone, completely, hear him struggling through his back catalogue.

Like I said, unless Elton is threatening to 'bum me into next week' I couldn't care less.

[The Chairman]

I'm sorry but regarding Elton you're dillusional. He couldn't hold a note if his life depended on it.

I know about the legions, but his voice has gone, completely, hear him struggling through his back catalogue.

Like I said, unless Elton is threatening to 'bum me into next week' I couldn't care less.

Elton at his peak had one of the most beautiful voices of all time. His voice today isn't as pure or easy on the ears but it brings an extra dimension to the music that makes it all the more interesting. Songs like "Daniel" and "Empty Garden" hold far more meaning and are even more emotional in his coarser, more "broken" voice. His voice might crack at times, but whose doesn't? I couldn't care less. He puts on a terrific show.

[jks]

But I'm not defending Kurt Cobain. :huh: I don't give a damn if any of you think he is talentless or anything, more power to you if that's what you think. I never mentioned Cobain being superior to Axel Rose. I'm just reinforcing that Guns & Roses are ****. :up:
No no no, you dont seem to understand. You have a username of nirvana, are sitting here defending kurt cobain of all people, and are saying guns & roses are **** when they are better than nirvana and kurt in every concievable way.

Go ahread, try and name one way nirvana or kurt were better.

[jed.exodus.89]

metallica should retire asap

[Knightsaber Priss]

Freaking Gene Simmons and Kiss.
Those dudes are like what 90? with make-up on??
they were just here last Friday night. Freaking put down the boots and make-up already! How much money do you need Bro?
That dude needs an intervention.

You know, this is pretty funny you should mention that. Word is that Gene and Paul will be retiring as performers in KISS. They will however be overseeing the selection of younger musicians to take their place.

And I don't care what you all say, Ace Frehley, who's in his late 50's, can still rock the house. Just look for his 2008 New York City concert on Youtube. Some have said he sounds even better than KISS currently does. Hell, some people are saying he sounds even better, singing and playing, than when he was in KISS now that he's sobered up and started getting serious. Of course that opens up a whole can of worms there. But maybe it was all for the better since Gene and Paul kind of really held Ace back always taking center stage.

*edit* There, I did all the work for you.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E2C58681484A06B8

[Keymaker]

Well if Kurt Cobain thought so it MUST be true.
That quote is just stupid...it's him that was talentless and got big while doing mediocre stuff.

[Knightsaber Priss]

That quote is just stupid...it's him that was talentless and got big while doing mediocre stuff.

I detect a little sarcasm in the post you were replying to.

[Keymaker]

I detect a little sarcasm in the post you were replying to.
I know, I was just too lazy to go back to the post with the original Cobain quote and reply to that :woot:

[Knightsaber Priss]

I know, I was just too lazy to go back to the post with the original Cobain quote and reply to that :woot:

Slacker!

[danoyse]

that brings me back to my point, McCartney will fill ANY arena, but it's full of people wanting to hear Yesterday and Band on the run, not any of his recent stuff

But it doesn't matter. People still want to hear Yesterday and Band on the Run. I've seen him twice in concert--those shows were full and the crowd was insane for it. Plus he still sounds fine and puts on a terrific show.

I also saw him when he played with Billy Joel at Shea Stadium this summer. It was rumored that he was going to be there, when he finally walked on stage the crowd went ballistic. He played two Beatles songs (I Saw Her Standing There and Let It Be), and again...he sounded amazing.

If he's still putting on a great show and people still want to see it, then there's no reason for him to retire. I'd see him again in a heartbeat.

[Heretic]

But I'm not defending Kurt Cobain. :huh: I don't give a damn if any of you think he is talentless or anything, more power to you if that's what you think. I never mentioned Cobain being superior to Axel Rose. I'm just reinforcing that Guns & Roses are ****. :up:


Nirvana, this is not meant to be a personal attack...but...

The singer's name is Axl Rose, not Axel Rose.

Also, his band, which is one of the most famous and biggest selling bands in American music history, is called Guns N' Roses, not Guns & Roses.

The fact that you dont even know the name of one of the biggest selling and most famous bands in the world, and don't know the name of their controversial and incredibly well known frontman makes your opinions on the band completely and utterly useless. It comes dangerously close to disqualifying your opinion on Rock music in general, as this is not some Indie band no one has ever heard of, nor a trendy band that lasts 6 months. This is an icon in the industry.

Note: if you aren't American I'll grant you a pass, as some countries have used the "&" symbol since "N" doesnt exactly translate to "and" in Japanese.

[The Chairman]

Nirvana, this is not meant to be a personal attack...but...

The singer's name is Axl Rose, not Axel Rose.

Also, his band, which is one of the most famous and biggest selling bands in American music history, is called Guns N' Roses, not Guns & Roses.

The fact that you dont even know the name of one of the biggest selling and most famous bands in the world, and don't know the name of their controversial and incredibly well known frontman makes your opinions on the band completely and utterly useless. It comes dangerously close to disqualifying your opinion on Rock music in general, as this is not some Indie band no one has ever heard of, nor a trendy band that lasts 6 months. This is an icon in the industry.

Note: if you aren't American I'll grant you a pass, as some countries have used the "&" symbol since "N" doesnt exactly translate to "and" in Japanese.

I don't agree with his opinion that GNR are ****, but are you really going to mercilessly rip him apart for a few spelling errors that aren't really even errors?

GNR were awesome back in the day, but I couldn't care less about them these days.

[Heretic]

Gnus 7 Roeses is a spelling error. Guns & Roses is not knowing the name of the band.

It wasnt mercilessly ripping him apart...it was merely informing him that if you dont even know a bands name then its hard to take your opinion seriously when opining about their quality. Dont give me your opinion on Lead Zeplin, Ozzie Ozborn or Metalika if you cant spell their names.

[Tigerking]

Its just a spelling error, plus it sounds the same if u spell it Guns and Roses or Guns & Roses

[Tigerking]

Anyway, Lil Wanye should retire before he continues to "save" rap...

[Nirvana]

No no no, you dont seem to understand. You have a username of nirvana, are sitting here defending kurt cobain of all people, and are saying guns & roses are **** when they are better than nirvana and kurt in every concievable way.

Go ahread, try and name one way nirvana or kurt were better.

But I wasn't defending Kurt Cobain. I wasn't trying to say Nirvana was better either. The only reason you are saying that I am defending them is because of my name. If the quote came from Chris Cornell and my name was Soundgarden you'd probably think the same thing any way, wouldn't you? It honestly would not matter to me at all if the quote came from John Deacon, Anthony Kiedis, Brad Whitford or even Mariah Carey. The only point that matters to me at all is that fact that the quote emphised my feelings that Guns 'N Roses is trash, regardless who said it.

Haha, this quote below me is priceless.

Nirvana, this is not meant to be a personal attack...but...

The singer's name is Axl Rose, not Axel Rose.

Also, his band, which is one of the most famous and biggest selling bands in American music history, is called Guns N' Roses, not Guns & Roses.

The fact that you dont even know the name of one of the biggest selling and most famous bands in the world, and don't know the name of their controversial and incredibly well known frontman makes your opinions on the band completely and utterly useless. It comes dangerously close to disqualifying your opinion on Rock music in general, as this is not some Indie band no one has ever heard of, nor a trendy band that lasts 6 months. This is an icon in the industry.

Note: if you aren't American I'll grant you a pass, as some countries have used the "&" symbol since "N" doesnt exactly translate to "and" in Japanese.

lol. i am sorri dat i mispelled axil rosez name. i am a n00b. i know nofing about rock. :whatever:

[Manic]

Anyway, Lil Wanye should retire before he continues to "save" rap...
He should hang up his microphone and find a nice quiet neck of the woods to live for the rest of his days. Him and his "daddy" named Baby...

[jks]

metallica should retire asap
lol, you're embarrassed

[gap5ewl]

This reminds me when I was watching Behind The Music of Jefferson Airplane and when they asked why Grace Slick retired she said "Because all rockstars over 50 look ridiculous on stage and need to retire". lol. I guess if you have a certain act, perhaps.

[Heretic]

lol, you're embarrassed

Metallica's new album is their best since...well...And Justice For All (Im not big on the Black album). So yeah...Id say its best that they didnt retire after the past few pieces of garbage.

[Heretic]

Its just a spelling error, plus it sounds the same if u spell it Guns and Roses or Guns & Roses


Yes, And may sound exactly like & when spoken...but neither sound like N

There is no such band called Guns And Roses. That band doesnt exist. Guns N Roses (spelled and pronounced differently) is one of the most famous bands on the planet. If you arent aware that Guns N Roses is not Guns & Roses then you just have no business commenting on their quality or lack thereof.

[Manic]

Wow. I know Boyz II Men fans who are less anal about spelling.

[Tigerking]

Yes, And may sound exactly like & when spoken...but neither sound like N

There is no such band called Guns And Roses. That band doesnt exist. Guns N Roses (spelled and pronounced differently) is one of the most famous bands on the planet. If you arent aware that Guns N Roses is not Guns & Roses then you just have no business commenting on their quality or lack thereof.

Its a friggin different way of spelling the friggin N, and, or & or whatever the hell you wanna spell it...

[Sam Fisher]

How about anyone who became famous on American Idol?:oldrazz:




:o

[Yerzrinot]

Metallica

[jks]

Metallica
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15617823&postcount=124

[Nirvana]

Yes, And may sound exactly like & when spoken...but neither sound like N

There is no such band called Guns And Roses. That band doesnt exist. Guns N Roses (spelled and pronounced differently) is one of the most famous bands on the planet. If you arent aware that Guns N Roses is not Guns & Roses then you just have no business commenting on their quality or lack thereof.

lol, u r a silly guy. :whatever:

[UltimateJustin]

Its a friggin different way of spelling the friggin N, and, or & or whatever the hell you wanna spell it...
If that were true then they wouldn't be called G'n'R (pronounced gee'in'are) and would be called g-and-r instead, which would sound stupid.

[The Chairman]

Also, AC / DC are going on there Farewell tour. It's the right move, I think.

[Leto Atrides]

If that were true then they wouldn't be called G'n'R (pronounced gee'in'are) and would be called g-and-r instead, which would sound stupid.

I can't believe anyone is actually pursuing this. Let's start the "It's actually 'Cum on Feel the Noize', not 'Come' and 'Noise.' You obvious don't know what you're talking about" discussion next.

[The Chairman]

Oh, The Allman Brothers should retire. They're terrible these days. They're live set is two hours of just five really long songs, and they can no longer play or sing with any real feeling or excitement. They're simply boring. Gregg is completely shot and needs to call it a day.

[The Chairman]

Oh, The Allman Brothers seriosuly need to call it quit. I've seen them live and it's pathetic. There's absolutely no spark or enthusiam. They play three very long songs for two hours that no one knows and Gregg sounds like ****. Time to call it a day.

[adhokk7]

Yes, And may sound exactly like & when spoken...but neither sound like N

There is no such band called Guns And Roses. That band doesnt exist. Guns N Roses (spelled and pronounced differently) is one of the most famous bands on the planet. If you arent aware that Guns N Roses is not Guns & Roses then you just have no business commenting on their quality or lack thereof.

:up:

[UltimateJustin]

:up:
Noize and noise, and cum and come sound the same. 'And' and 'n' sound different. If you were to say "come on feel the noise" no one would know you said it different than it's spelled. But if you tried to say "guns and roses" in some neighborhoods, people would blacklist you.

[Leto Atrides]

Noize and noise, and cum and come sound the same. 'And' and 'n' sound different. If you were to say "come on feel the noise" no one would know you said it different than it's spelled. But if you tried to say "guns and roses" in some neighborhoods, people would blacklist you.

At this point I'm going to assume you're kidding.

[Heretic]

I can't believe anyone is actually pursuing this. Let's start the "It's actually 'Cum on Feel the Noize', not 'Come' and 'Noise.' You obvious don't know what you're talking about" discussion next.


This isnt a one hit wonder song from 25 years ago...its the name of one of the biggest bands in the history of rock music...and he actually made the effort to intentionally spell the name wrong. He also spelled the singers name wrong intentionally. That tells me that he is not aware that the band is actually called Guns N Roses. If I repeatedly referred to a band called Nerve Anna then youd be confused until I informed you that Nerve Anna and Nirvana are pronounced the same and therefore are the same band. Hey, I chose to spell it different...a copyright and trademarked name that is world famous and darn near legendary...and my repeated spelling it of Nerve Anna doesnt make me ignorant of the band at all, does it?

[Leto Atrides]

This isnt a one hit wonder song from 25 years ago...its the name of one of the biggest bands in the history of rock music...and he actually made the effort to intentionally spell the name wrong. He also spelled the singers name wrong intentionally. That tells me that he is not aware that the band is actually called Guns N Roses. If I repeatedly referred to a band called Nerve Anna then youd be confused until I informed you that Nerve Anna and Nirvana are pronounced the same and therefore are the same band. Hey, I chose to spell it different...a copyright and trademarked name that is world famous and darn near legendary...and my repeated spelling it of Nerve Anna doesnt make me ignorant of the band at all, does it?

First of all, Nirvana is a real word, and spelling it that way would be much different, and would be completely misunderstanding what the name is.

GnR's name is meant to mean "Guns and Roses". They just used one of the many slang ways to write "and". It's not as the name is supposed to be "Guns [the letter N] Roses." They could just as easily written + or & or an' or something.

Similarly, Axel is a real name, you can't get mad at someone for not using his (deliberate) misspelling.

[UltimateJustin]

first of all, nirvana is a real word, and spelling it that way would be much different, and would be completely misunderstanding what the name is.

Gnr's name is meant to mean "guns and roses". They just used one of the many slang ways to write "and". It's not as the name is supposed to be "guns [the letter n] roses." they could just as easily written + or & or an' or something.

Similarly, axel is a real name, you can't get mad at someone for not using his (deliberate) misspelling.
i'm getting steamed at this entire thread.

[JLBats]

Thom Yorke.

[Warhammer]

UltimateJustin and Heretic, are y'all being serious? :rolleyes:

[Triad]

Thom Yorke.
Yiiikes! Heaven forbid!


I'll go with Madonna

[Asteroid-Man]

Soulja Boy

[Heretic]

UltimateJustin and Heretic, are y'all being serious? :rolleyes:


I am...if you deride Guns N Roses for being a crap band...you should at least be aware that the band is called Guns N Roses. You can spin it however you want...but the name of the band is printed on their album covers...the copyright and trademark arent suggestions...it is the actual legal spelling of the name. Calling the band Guns And Roses is to not know the name of the band. This isnt Led Zep, which makes sense as a nickname to shorten typing. This is the exact same amount of typing, but using the wrong letter.

Limp Bizkit is not nearly as big as Guns N Roses, culturally speaking. However, if I continually referred to them as Limp Biscuit then youd be accurate to point out that I was ignorant of the band. I could even understand if it was...um...Sade...or something that isnt spelled like its pronounced. But the band is pronounced Guns N Roses, and its spelled Guns N Roses. It is neither spelled nor pronounced Guns And Roses. If you arent aware of that, then you are terribly ignorant of the band.

[Nirvana]

Guns N' Roses, Guns and Roses, Guns & Roses, Axel Rose, Axl Rose, it's all still **** to me. :up:

[JLBats]

John Darnielle.

[JLBats]

Ted Leo.

[JLBats]

Blur!

[Dark Victory]

Tokio Hotel

[Silk Spectre]

Tokio Hotel

I agree.

The lead singer looks like the 80's threw up on him. Why is it all the people trying to resurrect the ugly 80's hair and clothes were not even alive in that decade? I was a kid then, but I remember enough, to not want to repeat it.

[Rac]

Why is it all the people trying to resurrect the ugly 80's hair and clothes were not even alive in that decade?
The poor bastards don't know it ain't cool.

[Halcohol]

Celine Dion. Just die already.

[Warhammer]

I am...if you deride Guns N Roses for being a crap band...you should at least be aware that the band is called Guns N Roses. You can spin it however you want...but the name of the band is printed on their album covers...the copyright and trademark arent suggestions...it is the actual legal spelling of the name. Calling the band Guns And Roses is to not know the name of the band. This isnt Led Zep, which makes sense as a nickname to shorten typing. This is the exact same amount of typing, but using the wrong letter.

Limp Bizkit is not nearly as big as Guns N Roses, culturally speaking. However, if I continually referred to them as Limp Biscuit then youd be accurate to point out that I was ignorant of the band. I could even understand if it was...um...Sade...or something that isnt spelled like its pronounced. But the band is pronounced Guns N Roses, and its spelled Guns N Roses. It is neither spelled nor pronounced Guns And Roses. If you arent aware of that, then you are terribly ignorant of the band.

Ok, it was misspelled. In the end, it is not threatening your life, or causing you harm. This whole argument takes grammar police to a whole new level. You are seriously writing paragraphs.

This whole argument is stupid. Your post is stupid.

[Nirvana]

Haha! ^

I love this thread. :up:

[Démon]

Ok, it was misspelled. In the end, it is not threatening your life, or causing you harm. This whole argument takes grammar police to a whole new level. You are seriously writing paragraphs.

This whole argument is stupid. Your post is stupid.

Seconded. For God's sake, how anal can you get over the bloody spelling? :whatever: Big deal if it isn't spelled properly - it's not like the band name is proper grammar anyhow. It's not like most people actually say "Guns AND Roses". Many English speakers abbreviate "and" to "'n" in speech, anyway.

[Drizzle]

I am...if you deride Guns N Roses for being a crap band...you should at least be aware that the band is called Guns N Roses. You can spin it however you want...but the name of the band is printed on their album covers...the copyright and trademark arent suggestions...it is the actual legal spelling of the name. Calling the band Guns And Roses is to not know the name of the band. This isnt Led Zep, which makes sense as a nickname to shorten typing. This is the exact same amount of typing, but using the wrong letter.

Limp Bizkit is not nearly as big as Guns N Roses, culturally speaking. However, if I continually referred to them as Limp Biscuit then youd be accurate to point out that I was ignorant of the band. I could even understand if it was...um...Sade...or something that isnt spelled like its pronounced. But the band is pronounced Guns N Roses, and its spelled Guns N Roses. It is neither spelled nor pronounced Guns And Roses. If you arent aware of that, then you are terribly ignorant of the band.
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[Heretic]

Youre right. He got it wrong...I corrected him...you defended the fact that being wrong is cool...and I should have just accepted defeat...because being right is stupid.


And to the poster above regarding Tokio Hotel...if you are an adult then you have no place telling kids what is cool and what isnt. I mean...come on...adultsd neveer think the cool stuff is cool...thats the point.

[Knightsaber Priss]

You know, this has to be said here. I don't care how old a musical artist is, as long as they can still perform their music competently they should just keep performing regardless of their age. To me you are never washed up so long as you still have fans that still love your music. Who really should care about the Pop charts and the music business? Touring is where the money's at. And these flash in the pan artists that have top ten hits are the ones who don't really make as much live as the veteran musical talents out there.

[[A]]

Who do you think should retire from music
about 96% of the people who's in the business (and I mean world wide)

[bullets]

you know there are several bands out there still touring off one hit.

[Tigerking]

Lil Wayne

[Nirvana]

Ha, one of my favorite threads resurrected. :up:

[Heretic]

I think that drummer from Nerve Anna should retire. His band Foo Fighters sucks.

[The Dude]

REO Speedwagon still show up at a county fair from time to time
Motley Crue
As a matter of fact, all 80's hair bands

[bullets]

REO Speedwagon still show up at a county fair from time to time
Motley Crue
As a matter of fact, all 80's hair bands


yeah motley crue did a show in my area not too long ago. i think it's cool that all these guys are still out there doing there thing. if you can get people to show up then there is no reason to quit. these guys need to make a living , they spent all their money on drugs, alcohol , hair spray and alimony.

[mrvlknight21]

Lil Wayne

2nd that.

[Heretic]

REO Speedwagon still show up at a county fair from time to time
Motley Crue
As a matter of fact, all 80's hair bands

r the record, Motley Crue is enjoying its best concert attendance and record sales streak in many years...

And even REO Speedwagon has been playing to packed arenas in the retirement home tours with Foreigner and Def Lep.

[LondonGirl]

Madonna

[Knightsaber Priss]

I really wish artists like Britney Spears, Pussycat Dolls, any pop tart groups that use sex to sell their music instead of talent etc. etc. would just go away.

[Heretic]

Okay, personal taste aside, heres one:

Warrant

They had their fame in the late 80's and early 90's, then they started bombing like Hiroshima. Their singer quit, then came back...then years later he quit/got fired after some cds that barely sold at all. The band hired a new singer a few years ago and recorded a "comeback" album that went absolutely nowhere (I dont even think its available in stores). Recently, the original singer returned for another reunion tour...well...his personal problems have derailed the band yet again, and he has been replaced with ANOTHER singer. The new singer, Robert Mason, is best known as the guy who sang on the second Lynch Mob cd (which bombed after the firist cds success) and he also sang on the second Cry Of Love cd (which bombed after the first cds success).

Yeah...Warrant.

[Addendum]

Ozzy

[SINKATRON]

This thread proves that most Americans dont know jack **** about music, which is what the rest of the world has known all along.

[Heretic]

This thread proves that most Americans dont know jack **** about music, which is what the rest of the world has known all along.

though I tend to agree about this thread (people think bands that are currently popular and made millions of dollars this year alone should retire?? Thats a horrible business decision), I must admit that most of the bands I really like from the UK are really crappy (The Dogs D'amour, Manic Street Preachers, The Wildhearts etc). I still love those bands, but its not like your country has a deathgrip on talent.

[Vilya]

Oasis

[adhokk7]

though I tend to agree about this thread (people think bands that are currently popular and made millions of dollars this year alone should retire?? Thats a horrible business decision), I must admit that most of the bands I really like from the UK are really crappy (The Dogs D'amour, Manic Street Preachers, The Wildhearts etc). I still love those bands, but its not like your country has a deathgrip on talent.

I'm confused. You're saying that you really like some really crappy bands? I'm not bagging on you; I'm just not sure I'm following you.

[Heretic]

I'm confused. You're saying that you really like some really crappy bands? I'm not bagging on you; I'm just not sure I'm following you.

HECK YEAH I LIKE CRAPPY BANDS! Look, this isnt brain surgery...its rock n roll. Alot of what I listen to is pretty lame. I like Manowar, and they are wretchedly awful. Im not saying they are a great band, Im saying that I LIKE THEM. People get caught up in this "the bands I like are more talented and better than other bands" crap. No, most of the bands I like are not reinventing the wheel, nor that talented in the grand scheme of things. Dream Theater is talented, and I cant stand them. Dillinger Escape Plan is talented, and I really dont like them either.

I do dig some bands that I think have a lot of talent (The Mars Volta, Coheed And Cambria) but really...I own just about every 80's glam cd from Autograph to XYZ...Im not listening to music 24/7 because it is stimulating my brain.

[The Chairman]

He's not someone who mega-known and loved anyway, but after seeing him perform on Youtube, Frank Sinatra Jr. should stop singing and recording. His voice is thinner than most Hollywood actresses and he has no presence or charisma. His dad at 79 still had twice the voice and presence that his son has now.

[TEDDY]

Madonna

[adhokk7]

HECK YEAH I LIKE CRAPPY BANDS! Look, this isnt brain surgery...its rock n roll. Alot of what I listen to is pretty lame. I like Manowar, and they are wretchedly awful. Im not saying they are a great band, Im saying that I LIKE THEM. People get caught up in this "the bands I like are more talented and better than other bands" crap. No, most of the bands I like are not reinventing the wheel, nor that talented in the grand scheme of things. Dream Theater is talented, and I cant stand them. Dillinger Escape Plan is talented, and I really dont like them either.

I do dig some bands that I think have a lot of talent (The Mars Volta, Coheed And Cambria) but really...I own just about every 80's glam cd from Autograph to XYZ...Im not listening to music 24/7 because it is stimulating my brain.

I dig. Sex Pistols FTW. :up:

[Heretic]

The Sex Pistols is a great example. One of the least talented bands ever...but its hard to deny Nevermind The Bullocks as one of the most incendiary albums of all time.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea if we are talking actual technical abilities the Pistols were crap. But no one can deny that they changed music all over the world. They were like the first proper anti-establishment band.
At the moment the UK is deffinately producing more talented bands than any where else IMO. You got Kasabian, Artic Monkeys, Razorlight, Muse, Kaiser Chiefs the list on. All America produces is silly little pop tarts and cheesey RnB. Kings of Leon are brilliant but even their new album is nothing on their last one. Who else is there from the US that can truly be called brilliant?

[King of Kings]

Paris Hilton.

[Heretic]

Yea if we are talking actual technical abilities the Pistols were crap. But no one can deny that they changed music all over the world. They were like the first proper anti-establishment band.
At the moment the UK is deffinately producing more talented bands than any where else IMO. You got Kasabian, Artic Monkeys, Razorlight, Muse, Kaiser Chiefs the list on. All America produces is silly little pop tarts and cheesey RnB. Kings of Leon are brilliant but even their new album is nothing on their last one. Who else is there from the US that can truly be called brilliant?

Depends on your view of brilliant. I think Radiohead and U2 are overhyped crap. When it comes to the more accessible types of music, we are at a disadvantage, because the industry is SO geared towards the mass market that brilliant bands in what should be radio friendly genres are rarely heard. Butch Walker is, I think, the best pop songwriter in the world...but hes not getting any radio play. We have some interesting Metal bands, and we invented Blues (and assorted other genres like Emo, which is all over radio) so dont count us completely out.

[Ace of Knaves]

Oh yea I'm deffinately not counting out US music, some of my favourite ever bands are American. The Doors, Metallica and NIN are just some of them. The problem with US music industry is that too many artists are sacrificing their uniqueness for commercial success.

[Heretic]

Oh yea I'm deffinately not counting out US music, some of my favourite ever bands are American. The Doors, Metallica and NIN are just some of them. The problem with US music industry is that too many artists are sacrificing their uniqueness for commercial success.

Theres a band all over the radio now...I dont know their name...but the single is very vaudeville-esque, mixed with emo. Now, there is NO WAY that band sounded anything like that prior to the release of My Chemical Romance's The Black Parade. Its just pathetic how a bands greatest influence will be a band that is often only a year or two old and has two songs on the radio. New bands will contact me all the time for advice, and I always tell them that if they think they will get famous by copying what is popular now, they are stupid because by the time a label hears of some band in Nowheresville who doesnt even have any fans, the trend will be over. Its much better to try to take whats current and put a unique spin on it so you can be a bridge out of the trend.

[returntovoid]

The band Kiss should retire because they suck without they're original lead guitarist Ace Frehley.

[VampElvis]

Springsteen. I'm tired of hearing how "great" he is. He's mediocre at best in my book. Just go away "boss".

[Ace of Knaves]

Theres a band all over the radio now...I dont know their name...but the single is very vaudeville-esque, mixed with emo. Now, there is NO WAY that band sounded anything like that prior to the release of My Chemical Romance's The Black Parade. Its just pathetic how a bands greatest influence will be a band that is often only a year or two old and has two songs on the radio. New bands will contact me all the time for advice, and I always tell them that if they think they will get famous by copying what is popular now, they are stupid because by the time a label hears of some band in Nowheresville who doesnt even have any fans, the trend will be over. Its much better to try to take whats current and put a unique spin on it so you can be a bridge out of the trend.

Wow! I forgot about this convo, very interesting. So are you in the music industry Heretic?

[Go Web Go!]

Springsteen. I'm tired of hearing how "great" he is. He's mediocre at best in my book. Just go away "boss".

Yeah, I really don't get why everyone thinks he's so great.

[SpeterMan3]

Will Michael Jackson ever 'Beat It?'

Michael is forever.

[souloffire]

The band Kiss should retire because they suck without they're original lead guitarist Ace Frehley.That not saying much for Kiss since Ace Frehley also sucks.

[Shaolin Kenobi]

Britney Spears

[souvlaki]

I know who shouldn't. The Beach Boys.
I was reluctant to go see them when they played here last week (even though I consider them the best rock and roll band of all time) since it's just Mike Love and some other guys. A girl at work had free tickets though and knowing my extreme love for the band hooked me up with them. I must say, the show was GREAT! So glad I went. They put on a great show and even Love still sounded great. Mind you, I could have done without Darlin', Kokomo and the 2 other Love originals.

In closing, Mike Love should retire from writing music (and probably never should have in the first place) but he sure as hell should keep preforming.

This is going back a number of pages, but I disagree completely. If you want to see the Beach Boys, go see Brian Wilson perform live. That's about as close as you will get to the Beach Boys in 2009 (still not the same without the other two Wilson brothers, but he still puts on an amazing show). Mike Love is completely worthless, and an egotistical hack as far as I'm concerned. I will never forgive him for what he did to Brian during the Smile era, or for stealing the Beach Boys name. There is no Beach Boys without Brian.

[souvlaki]

Theres a band all over the radio now...I dont know their name...but the single is very vaudeville-esque, mixed with emo. Now, there is NO WAY that band sounded anything like that prior to the release of My Chemical Romance's The Black Parade. Its just pathetic how a bands greatest influence will be a band that is often only a year or two old and has two songs on the radio. New bands will contact me all the time for advice, and I always tell them that if they think they will get famous by copying what is popular now, they are stupid because by the time a label hears of some band in Nowheresville who doesnt even have any fans, the trend will be over. Its much better to try to take whats current and put a unique spin on it so you can be a bridge out of the trend.

Any band that is only inspired by bands from the last few years needs to expand their horizons anyhow. The only worthwhile bands from the last 10 years are bands that actually know a damn thing about music.

[The Chairman]

souvlaki, I completely agree about The Beach Boys. Mike Love is a total douchebag. I'd love to see Wilson live, by the way. His voice isn't what it used to be, but he still puts on a great show.

Oh, and to the people saying The Boss should retire, either go see one of his live shows or stop talking completely. If there's anyone mentioned in this thread who SHOULD NOT retire, it's Bruce.

[The Chairman]

Giving this another bump, just to say that Aerosmith seriously need to call it quits. I saw them about a month ago, and they were absolutley hideous. The entire show was only 80 minutes long, they came on over tow hours late, they only played about 12 songs, most of which the audience didn't know, and one of which was Joe playing Guitar Hero. Half the band was missing (Tom Hamilton has cancer, which I do understand), Steven Tyler cannot sing anymore, and in general, they were horrible, and word on their official fan forum is that they've been this way since the tour started. So, yes, I think Aerosmith should retire.

[Captainhulk]

I think my all time fav Prince should just go away. He's so out of touch.

[The Chairman]

I think my all time fav Prince should just go away. He's so out of touch.

Agreed.

[DarkReflections]

i honestly think eminem should call it quits.

[nogap87]

I love Styx but Dennis DeYoung sucked on his live performance on The Bonnie Hunt Show today. He should retire.

[SymbioticToxin]

Mary J. Blige

[Darkness Falls]

chris brown

[katie_girl09]

*Eminem - He has ceased to be relevant. Of course, that's what happens when your rhymes are created with the sole purpose of shocking people and have no substance.

*Madonna - She only got famous in the first place because she sold sex and caused a lot of controversy. Her only "talent" was finding good producers for her music. Now that there are tons of singers and other starlets out there who are doing all of the above way better than she ever could have, she is irrelevant as well.

*Gwen Stefani - Unless she will only sing with No Doubt from now on, I don't even wanna hear her anymore.

*Justin Timberlake and Chris Brown - Overrated and under-talented Usher wannabes

*Usher - I know it sounds really weird, but his music and his image really took a nosedive after he married that woman. I'm not sure that he should retire per se, but I think his career is over for the most part so he may as well. He was always a Michael Jackson wannabe in my book, but he was a good one (Justin and Chris are just copies of a copy imo).

This is fun. :) I could go on forever, but I won't.

[katie_girl09]

I totally forgot one: Elton John.

How long has it been since that guy had a decent song? And it isn't as if he's a nice guy and keeps his mouth shut. He's so full of himself.

[katie_girl09]

Considering the only reason Nirvana is even spoken about is because he put a bullet in his face, I wouldn't take the man's word on anything.
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