The Oscar Push!

[JonnyQ]

Man it's really a strange kind of poetic that the nominations come out the same day a year on from....yknow.

I know it sounds crazy but I'm kinda proud in a way, that if it Heath gets a nomination it's like it happening to a family member lol.

I really hope its awesome news:word:

[philranger]

Man it's really a strange kind of poetic that the nominations come out the same day a year on from....yknow.

I know it sounds crazy but I'm kinda proud in a way, that if it Heath gets a nomination it's like it happening to a family member lol.

I really hope its awesome news:word:

it will be. no worries:brucebat:

[philranger]

Good :woot: now all we need is people to realize that Memoirs of a Slumdog is overrated too and that'll be it.

i haven't seen Slumdog, but i heard it wasn't as good as the hype. but, i still need to see it for myself

[philranger]

with the exception of TDK and the Wrestler, it kind of feels like every award season within the past few years

[JonnyQ]

I actually went to watch the Wrestler last night. Absolutely amazing.
One of the best films I've ever seen if I'm honest.

[philranger]

I actually went to watch the Wrestler last night. Absolutely amazing.
One of the best films I've ever seen if I'm honest.

i agree with you 100%! such a great film. Rourke is phenomenal! and the story and directing was well done. such a sad story: it really hits you and makes you think long after you've left the theater

[Dark Knight]

Happy B-Day Anita!

My B-Day was two weekends ago on the 10th!

:woot:

[Dark Knight]

Oh yeah....the Wrestler is a far better movie than Button, Frost, Reader and Rev Road thats for damn sure.

It's also better than Gran Torino.

[NickyTea]

Oh yeah....the Wrestler is a far better movie than Button, Frost, Reader and Rev Road thats for damn sure.

It's also better than Gran Torino.

Agreed on the first count...
but I'd say it and Torino are on the same level.

[philranger]

i'm hearing more and more good things about Torino. i might have to bump that up and see it next

[Fanticon]

i'm not planning to watch any potential nominees until after they're announced...then i'll make my list and plan em out in the month left before the oscars....except TDK duh:woot: just got my tickets!

[Kargo Warrior]

12 hours to go...butterflies?That's an understatement...i'm so excited and anxious about it!

[philranger]

12 hours to go...butterflies?That's an understatement...i'm so excited and anxious about it!

that reminds me. i have to set my alarm!:lips:

[Anita18]

that reminds me. i have to set my alarm!:lips:
I'll be here for the play-by-play, haha. Maybe...if I get up early enough. :o

[philranger]

I'll be here for the play-by-play, haha. Maybe...if I get up early enough. :o

i'll try to be here too. just adds to the excitement

[Kargo Warrior]

I'll be here for the play-by-play, haha. Maybe...if I get up early enough. :o

Happy Birthday...have a great one :word:

[WVsax27]

for those that have never watched, the only do the major awards over TV. The tech stuff will be released online right after.

[Anita18]

Happy birthday Anita!:yay:

Happy B-Day Anita!

My B-Day was two weekends ago on the 10th!

:woot:

Happy Birthday...have a great one :word:
Thankies. I have a $10 gift card to Cheesecake Factory so I'll get myself a slice sometime tomorrow. :woot:

for those that have never watched, the only do the major awards over TV. The tech stuff will be released online right after.
I figure BP will be last, right? On Awards Daily they were saying how you could predict BP last-minute by what gets snubbed in Screenplay or Editing or....some of the acting noms too I guess.

[WVsax27]

I figure BP will be last, right? On Awards Daily they were saying how you could predict BP last-minute by what gets snubbed in Screenplay or Editing or....some of the acting noms too I guess.

yeah, BP is last. I think they started with supporting Actor last year

[Kargo Warrior]

The nominations that are presented live are:

Best actor/actress
Best Supporting actor/actress
both Screenplays
Director
Picture


The other nominations are posted on the oscar website.

[Silverglade]

If TDk gets a Best Picture nod... I am taking the rest of the day off from work to be at peace.

[philranger]

If TDk gets a Best Picture nod... I am taking the rest of the day off from work to be at peace.

i think i'll go to work, but only to brag if TDK gets those noms.

[byte19]

so i have to go online to get best score huh? that's kewl.... it'll win... it better....

[Kargo Warrior]

You can watch the nominations here:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/livenow?id=6604036

[Nirvana]

5:30am California time? If that's the case I'll be in class and I'll miss the announcements. :csad:

[Caped Crusader]

wow early? I thought it was being done at night

[byte19]

so early in the morning it's a lot like night!! ;)

[Cmill216]

If TDk gets a Best Picture nod... I am taking the rest of the day off from work to be at peace.

:dry:

Dude....

[Caped Crusader]

so early in the morning it's a lot like (k)night!! ;)

:hehe:
:cwink:

[Caped Crusader]

:dry:

Dude....


haha didnt notice that. lets not get carried away now folks.

[Anita18]

haha didnt notice that. lets not get carried away now folks.
People have taken off work for less. Whatevers. :oldrazz:

So here's a theory for all of you people watching live - if TDK gets a Best Adapted Screenplay nom, it's definitely in BP. If it doesn't, it probably won't matter. But if it gets that, it's in.

[byte19]

ha ha vrich!

[jmc]

Oh man, I've got to stay up til 1.30am to hear the announcements. :(

[RKO]

Silly question but...

The announcements are televised right?

If so, wich channel?

[scifiwolf]

They're on E!

[Hunter Rider]

Does anyone know if they are being shown in the UK ?

[Nirvana]

:dry:

Dude....

I'm thinking about creating an Invite Only Social Group called "The Sane Batfans".

[RKO]

Those exist? :wow:

[Nirvana]

Didn't you get the Memo?

[Caped Crusader]

Didn't you get the Memo?

http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages01/bb_099RutgerHauer.jpg

[Anita18]

Those exist? :wow:
Not really on the internet. Logic states that if you make the effort to go on the internet to chat about fandom, it's not really a casual kind of fandom. :oldrazz:

[General Vulcun]

Hey, this is semi-OT, but would any of you like to have a "pick the winner" type of game with the Oscars on Feb 22?

I'm thinking 1 point for a correct tech award, 2 points for a correct short film/documentary/foreign award, 3 points for a correct acting/script award, 4 points for guessing Best Director acurately, and 5 for guessing Best Picture acurately.

Of course, a bonus point could be rewarded for an upset pick. For example, Heath is the front runner for Best Supporting Actor, but say you pick Robert Downey Jr. to win. If RDJ won, you would get the 3 points for guessing the category acurately, and an extra point for taking the risk.

User with the most points wins. What do you say?

[RKO]

Not really on the internet. Logic states that if you make the effort to go on the internet to chat about fandom, it's not really a casual kind of fandom. :oldrazz:

That makes sense.

I knew you had to be a little insane to deal with all those viral games. :meanie:

[The_Joker7895]

Guh the suspense is killing me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bh:

[philranger]

just a few more hours...

[The Caped Knight]

Let's GO TDK WIN !!!!!!! WIN !!!!!!!! WIN !!!!!!!!!!

[The_Joker7895]

just a few more hours...

I'm gonna try to get some sleep and hopefully will wake up to good news.

Night all!

[Anita18]

That makes sense.

I knew you had to be a little insane to deal with all those viral games. :meanie:
:oldrazz:

[Caped Crusader]

more butterflies

[deathfromabove]

well about five hours till doomsday.

im going to go to sleep with my fingers (and toes) crossed.

be back in the a.m. after the chaos starts...:wow:

[JaD]

One word, 2 syllables. *counts fingers*

An-xious.

*looks at clock*

[cansi]

its quiet before the storm.
I cant sleep because of the exciment. Its either going to be a good day or a bad guy...

[JaD]

Hey now in Bulgaria is 11:09 AM please what's the time in USA an when on my time the nominations will be revealed?*takes out calculator*

I believe that'd beee... 3:30 P.M. for you. :up: (Edit ha, forgot the :30) :cwink: Swift)



And no I didn't actually use a calculator, pfft.

*puts calculator back in drawer*

[MSwift]

i think it's 3:30pm ur time

edit: JaD beat me to it lol

[CapedCrusader14]

Come on, baby needs a new pair of awards!

Hopefully more than a pair.

[Caped Crusader]

lalalala..

[Caped Crusader]

Wait is it PT or ET?

[J.Howlett]

8:30 et, 5:30 pt.

[Caped Crusader]

The 81st Academy Awards nominations will be announced on Thursday, January 22, 2009, at 5:30 a.m. PT in the Academy's Samuel Goldwyn Theater.

Just got my answer. :(

Going to get some sleep, night.

[scifiwolf]

Since somebody is bound to ask, again, the nominations are televised live on E!

[Pennyworth]

1st thing I thought of when I woke up.....100 minutes to go, anxious. :yay:

[Spidey 2007]

Im stayin up for this... Its suppose to be announced on all news channels.

[bane]

1 more hour!!!!!!

[Jokers_Wild]

Com 'on...rack em up, rack em up!! *anxiously waits with fingers crossed*

:bat:

[MSwift]

as it approaches... i'm getting more and more nervous! Let's go TDK!

[Nirvana]

A little over an hour left...and I'll be in class. :csad:

Good luck TDK. :up:

[Kargo Warrior]

70 minutes to go...the suspence is killing me!!!

COME ON TDK!!!!!!!!

[Kargo Warrior]

30 minutes to go!!

Too much anxiety!!

http://i44.tinypic.com/2z5r7k9.jpg

[Jokers_Wild]

20 mins...

This reminds me of the Viral countdowns. Good times! :yay:

[JP]

No worries. Heath has the nom in the bag. Though I wouldn't be surprised it that was the only nod the film got. But, you never know.

[Kargo Warrior]

No worries. Heath has the nom in the bag. Though I wouldn't be surprised it that was the only nod the film got. But, you never know.

Nobody is questioning Heath's nomination..that has been in the bag for at least a month now...Best Picture is where it's at.

[Lobo]

I can see Nolan getting the nod for Best Director

[JP]

Nobody is questioning Heath's nomination..that has been in the bag for at least a month now...Best Picture is where it's at.
I don't foresee that happening. But I'd love to be wrong.

[WVsax27]

if the Nolans pick up a screenplay nomination, I think we're home free. If not, keep holding out hope. Also any other suprise acting nominations would be a good sign, but I don't think we'll be hearing Gary or Aaron called

[jmc]

10 mins to go! I can't believe I'm staying up this late for nominations.

[cansi]

8 minutes guys. Hold on to your hopes and lets be the first superhero movie to do it...

[Spidey 2007]

16 mins to go! I can't believe I'm staying up this late for nominations.


Or early, however u look at it!.. I hate tryin to sleep when the sun is up.. lol

but worth it.

[MSwift]

the nerves are picking up a lot more now lol.

[Kargo Warrior]

6 minutes to go guys!!

This is so surreal!!I can't believe we're waiting to find out if the movie we were following for 3 years day and night,will be nominated for Best Picture...when they announce TDK among the nominees i'll probably scream then faint...

[Spidey 2007]

6 minutes to go guys!!

This is so surreal!!I can't believe we're waiting to find out if the movie we were following for 3 years day and night,will be nominated for Best Picture...when they announce TDK among the nominees i'll probably scream then faint...

But theres still a VERY high chance it wont get nominated!! dont get your hopes up to be let down now!

[Lobo]

4 minutes :D

[Maze]

Go Dark knight!!!

[Kargo Warrior]

But theres still a VERY high chance it wont get nominated!! dont get your hopes up to be let down now!

It's among the 5 potential nominees among every single magazine/site prediction...so very high??

Not really.

[Spidey 2007]

It's among the 5 potential nominees among every single magazine/site prediction...so very high??

Not really.

Its just as likely to not get nominated as it is.. so hold your horses

[byte19]

d here we............ GO!!!

[Spidey 2007]

TDKs GOT IT!

[Kargo Warrior]

Its just as likely to not get nominated as it is.. so hold your horses


I refuse!!!:grin::grin:

I must get the nom!!it muuuustttttttttttttt!!!

Go TDK!!:woot::woot:

[byte19]

commercial?

[nimrodson]

Let's get this show on the road! Blaha blah blah.

[Dark Donnie]

2 mins

[jmc]

1 min!

[philranger]

get along with it already!

[nimrodson]

...and here we go!

[Dark Donnie]

...and here we go!

:cmad:

[nimrodson]

Yessssss!!! That was a given.

[jmc]

Ledger!

[MSwift]

Nolan snubbed!!!!

[Fenrir]

TDK got the shaft.

[lukey37]

We don't need Oscars.

[nimrodson]

Holy lord.

[MSwift]

well the Academy drops the ball. Hope the ratings are worst than last year.

[bane]

********!!!!!!!!!!

[Kargo Warrior]

**** this...i will never watch this ******** again...even for heath

[The Riddler]

haha, guess the oscars are dead to me as usual.

i'm not going to watch this year.

[Jokers_Wild]

:cmad:

[Etienne]

The Reader? :huh::cmad::(

[MelvinWhite]

Nope

[JP]

8 noms!!!

[RKO]

And the Batfans raise hell. :wow:

[ShadowBoxing]

The Oscar crowd is in for a real surprise.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

[jmc]

Good luck getting ratings Academy.

[nimrodson]

I really really can't believe Nolan didn't get anything.

[Jokers_Wild]

**** the Oscars as usual...

[Cmill216]

Wow.

[Spidey 2007]

yup, knew hoping for best pic was a stretch.... the 8 nominations will be good though, TDK will win them...

[Etienne]

The Reader??? :huh::cmad::(

[General Vulcun]

That's it for me. I will never watch the Oscars again. The Academy made their choice, and that's it.

[CelticPredator]

I'll only watch Best Supporting Actor, and thats it.

[Spidey 2007]

...The Reader...

[Pennyworth]

lame. :csad:

[bane]

Watched all fo the nominees for best pic and none of them is better than TDK and that's a FACT!No one will remember those movies in 2 years, mark my words!

[The Chris]

I'm not watching . to hell with this.

[nimrodson]

So very lame. Oh well, congratulations to Heath! He'll win, no doubt.

[Etienne]

The Reader? Seriously? Did anyone expect that?

[J.Howlett]

I liked The Reader a lot but there are about six or seven films better than that one film. The Dark Knight is one of them.

It's the same theory every time...if the film has made the big bucks, it's already gotten it's award.

Return of the King was the biggest hit of 2003 and it was honored...and The Dark Knight is a vastly superior film to that one.

[The Riddler]

kinda shocked it got snubbed, but what can i say, the oscars has lost touch.

[JP]

Wow, you guys are serious. :dry:

[philranger]

well, its good to see some things never change. very wow,,, sorry Academy, you got it very wrong

[TruerToTheCore]

Well, TDK wasn't that good.

[Dark Donnie]

Yay for RDJ

[Jokers_Wild]

The Reader??? :huh::cmad::(

I thought my jokes were bad.

[byte19]

The Reader? Seriously? Did anyone expect that?
with no Leo? no actually, I didn't....

[Christmas]

Im pushing for Milk now. The oscar's ratings are gonna be in the toilet.

[nimrodson]

I definitely didn't expect the Reader.

[JP]

Good luck getting ratings Academy.
They don't need luck. :huh:

[Sharkboy]

They don't need luck. :huh:

the past couple of years, proves that they certainly do.

[JL Unlimited]

They don't need luck. :huh:

Actually, they do. Last year was an all-time low. And two different polls from USA Today and Fandango have 70% of people saying they would watch this year's Oscars if The Dark Knight was a Best Picture nominee. The majority of the general public (except for TCCOBB but that didn't help last year with Juno) haven't seen most of this year's nominees.

[The Riddler]

haha, my stats professor told the class the reader was going to get nominated...amazing he was right.

[jmc]

This honestly ranks up their with Zodiac as one of the biggest cluster****s the Academy has done. An opportunity missed, and no-chance of another blockbuster film getting a look in for at least another 5 years. The status quo remains I'm afraid.

[byte19]

they needed TDK and they won't even have that!

[Etienne]

The critic on E! said that he thinks Ben Button will win BP "because it made a lot of money."

[Fenrir]

Hahaha, Roger Ebert's theory about the Academy having a hard-on for Holocaust movies is proved yet again thanks to The Reader. :down:funny:

[Gotham]

Wally Pfister was nominated. Wonderful. :up:

[Cmill216]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009498-reader/

60%

[jmc]

They don't need luck. :huh:

With the atrocious rating they had last year, you think this bunch of films nominated are going to get people watching? Please.

[Hamill-Joker]

Anyone up for starting a boycott to try and get the lowest ratings ever? :p

[Jokers_Wild]

I'm not watching . to hell with this.

Me either. I'm not sitting through that borefest if they couldn't at least give TDK a nom. It really deserved it, no matter what the naysayers think.

[JP]

haha, my stats professor told the class the reader was going to get nominated...amazing he was right.
Majority of predictions had The Reader on the list as well.


TDK has 8 nominations. That is incredible for a comic book film. We should be calibrating, not complaining.

[JL Unlimited]

Me either. I'm not sitting through that borefest if they couldn't at least give TDK a nom. It really deserved it, no matter what the naysayers think.

Same here. I'll just catch Heath's win on Youtube.

[Christmas]

The critic on E! said that he thinks Ben Button will win BP "because it made a lot of money."

ben lyons is a TOOL

can someone list the 8 noms for TDK? thanks.

[Etienne]

Anyone up for starting a boycott to try and get the lowest ratings ever? :p
I don't think that's needed it will probably happen anyway.

[Cmill216]

Majority of predictions had The Reader on the list as well.

As someone who has followed this "race" for the past few months, I can tell you that is as far from the truth as you can possibly get.

[JL Unlimited]

Majority of predictions had The Reader on the list as well.


TDK has 8 nominations. That is incredible for a comic book film. We should be calibrating, not complaining.

I'm not sure which sites you have been visiting but The Dark Knight and not The Reader were on almost everyone's prediction lists.

[baerrtt]

Well, TDK wasn't that good.

Neither were any of the actual films they've nominated for Best Picture (I've seen them all).

Oh dear it's like the 1980s all over again where even though the occasional blockbuster was good enough not only to gain major nominations but deserved the wins (the nominated likes of RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK and ET but, like THE DARK KNIGHT today, the likes of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and BACK TO THE FUTURE which were snubbed) the Academy sent out the message they weren't willing to endorse films that apparently appealed only to 'children' (a quote that resurfaced from a recent Academy member about TDK).

The more they change (The Departed, NCFOM) the more they stay the same:csad:.

[jmc]

TDK has 8 nominations. That is incredible for a comic book film. We should be calibrating, not complaining.

8 nods is good, but it's the mains one that matter, and TDK deserved nods for the director and picture.

[byte19]

Majority of predictions had The Reader on the list as well.


TDK has 8 nominations. That is incredible for a comic book film. We should be calibrating, not complaining.
you calibrate there, I won't celebrate the snub.:cmad:

[JL Unlimited]

ben lyons is a TOOL

can someone list the 8 noms for TDK? thanks.

Best Supporting Actor
Best Cinematography
Best Editing
Best Make-up
Best Sound Editing
Best Sound Mixing
Best Visual Effects
Best Art Direction

[Hunter Rider]

No real surprise, I always thought they would baulk although I figured it would be for 'The Wrestler' not 'The Reader', anyway I am glad Rourke and Ledger got the noms.

[Fenrir]

TDK has 8 nominations. That is incredible for a comic book film. We should be calibrating, not complaining.

I'm sorry but I closed the window after seeing TDK get the shaft for Best Picture. Anyways, what other 8 nominations did TDK get?

[ChocheTheHero]

TDK was nominated too at the Best Photography and Best Montage?

[Christmas]

TDK has 8 nominations. That is incredible for a comic book film. We should be calibrating, not complaining.

I don't know about calibrating... but Nolan being left out for Director is a mistake. His work was worthy. The Academy overlooked his effort. Simple as that. I'll complain as long I want.

[J.Howlett]

The BAFTA's was a slight indication of The Reader eventhough those nominations came way late in the game...

Also another observation, by having Kate Winslet nominated for The Reader instead of Revolutionary Road, the finest actress of this generation will not win an Oscar she probably should've had a long time ago.

Just a pathetic list.

You could've easily put in Revolutionary Road, The Dark Knight, and Wall E to sub in for three of those best picture nominees, because they're better than what we got....

...the more I think about this selection, the more it's pissing me the hell off.

[RKO]

Wally Pfister was nominated. Wonderful. :up:

Awesome. :up:

[Hamill-Joker]

TDK has 8 nominations. That is incredible for a comic book film. We should be calibrating, not complaining.

No, we should be complaining because the Academy didn't have the guts to nominate a comic book movie for its biggest award.

Nominate it for Best Picture at least and give it some recognition.

It is bull and it should have been in place of Frost/Nixon or The Reader.

No matter what the Academy says, the people hold The Dark Knight as the Best Picture of the Year.

[JP]

The full list hasn't been announced yet (why are they taking so long :cmad:)

[Jokers_Wild]

People can try and say 'TDK wasn't good enough for a Best Picture nom', but the fact is, the damn movie got nominated by the major guilds...the academy went against the grain and out of their way to not validate this movie because of it's genre.

[Symbiotic]

Best Supporting Actor
Best Cinematography
Best Editing
Best Make-up
Best Sound Editing
Best Sound Mixing
Best Visual Effects
Best Art Direction

The least the Academy can do to make up for the snubs is to have TDK win every one of these.

[The Chris]

They snubbed Nolan guys. They snubbed him. Good god, if that doesn't say biased, then I don't know what does. Horrible. Why not the wrestler instead? or even Wall-E. Why put in a movie that no one liked!

[The Riddler]

The least the Academy can do to make up for the snubs is to have TDK win every one of these.

best pic nomination is the only thing that would have made me watch the oscars.

[Hamill-Joker]

The least the Academy can do to make up for the snubs is to have TDK win every one of these.

All those nominations say to me is the Academy throwing The Dark Knight a bone because it wouldn't nominate it for Best Picture.

[byte19]

The least the Academy can do to make up for the snubs is to have TDK win every one of these.
we might get 2 of those.....

[JP]

Performance by an actor in a supporting role

* Josh Brolin in “Milk” (Focus Features)
* Robert Downey Jr. in “Tropic Thunder” (DreamWorks, Distributed by DreamWorks/Paramount)
* Philip Seymour Hoffman in “Doubt” (Miramax)
* Heath Ledger in “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.)
* Michael Shannon in “Revolutionary Road” (DreamWorks, Distributed by Paramount Vantage)

Achievement in art direction

* “Changeling” (Universal), Art Direction: James J. Murakami, Set Decoration: Gary Fettis
* “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” (Paramount and Warner Bros.), Art Direction: Donald Graham Burt, Set Decoration: Victor J. Zolfo
* “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.), Art Direction: Nathan Crowley, Set Decoration: Peter Lando
* “The Duchess” (Paramount Vantage, Pathé and BBC Films), Art Direction: Michael Carlin, Set Decoration: Rebecca Alleway
* “Revolutionary Road” (DreamWorks, Distributed by Paramount Vantage), Art Direction: Kristi Zea, Set Decoration: Debra Schutt

Achievement in cinematography

* “Changeling” (Universal), Tom Stern
* “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” (Paramount and Warner Bros.), Claudio Miranda
* “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.), Wally Pfister
* “The Reader” (The Weinstein Company), Chris Menges and Roger Deakins
* “Slumdog Millionaire” (Fox Searchlight), Anthony Dod Mantle


Achievement in film editing

* “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” (Paramount and Warner Bros.), Kirk Baxter and Angus Wall
* “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.), Lee Smith
* “Frost/Nixon” (Universal), Mike Hill and Dan Hanley
* “Milk” (Focus Features), Elliot Graham
* “Slumdog Millionaire” (Fox Searchlight), Chris Dickens

Achievement in makeup

* “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” (Paramount and Warner Bros.), Greg Cannom
* “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.), John Caglione, Jr. and Conor O’Sullivan
* “Hellboy II: The Golden Army” (Universal), Mike Elizalde and Thom Floutz



Achievement in sound editing

* “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.), Richard King
* “Iron Man” (Paramount and Marvel Entertainment), Frank Eulner and Christopher Boyes
* “Slumdog Millionaire” (Fox Searchlight), Tom Sayers
* “WALL-E” (Walt Disney), Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood
* “Wanted” (Universal),Wylie Stateman

Achievement in sound mixing

* “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” (Paramount and Warner Bros.), David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Mark Weingarten
* “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.), Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo and Ed Novick
* “Slumdog Millionaire” (Fox Searchlight), Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke and Resul Pookutty
* “WALL-E” (Walt Disney),Tom Myers, Michael Semanick and Ben Burtt
* “Wanted” (Universal), Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño and Petr Forejt

Achievement in visual effects

* “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” (Paramount and Warner Bros.), Eric Barba, Steve Preeg, Burt Dalton and Craig Barron
* “The Dark Knight” (Warner Bros.), Nick Davis, Chris Corbould, Tim Webber and Paul Franklin
* “Iron Man” (Paramount and Marvel Entertainment), John Nelson, Ben Snow, Dan Sudick and Shane Mahan

[Cmill216]

If TDK hadn't been nominated for the DGA, PGA, and WGA, I wouldn't have been surprised by this.

But after being honored by all three of those guilds, I have to say: I am completely and utterly shell shocked right now. It's crazy.

No Nolan nomination. No Best Pic. No Adapted Screenplay.

[TheGlassPrison]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009498-reader/

60%

It's these kind of stats that always proplex me. How can a movie that's borderline rotten on RT get picked over films with much, much higher scores like WALL-E, TDK, or The Wrestler, which some critics call masterpieces?

[Dark Donnie]

Surprised The Wrestler didn't get it instead...

[baerrtt]

Going by my previous post it's sad to say that we can safely assume that the Academy aren't going to start honouring blockbusters that don't fit their limited profile of an 'Oscar' film (TDK, WALL-E) in the near future. Unless it's from a respected literary source (ROTK) or a full on drama, well the kind they've nominated before(FORREST GUMP, GLADIATOR), they won't open their minds to material they look down upon.

[J.Howlett]

Symbiotic,

It won't because of Benjamin Button. I liked the film but didn't love it and think it's very far on the Fincher list of films but technically, it's going to win everything because it's technically a perfect film....

[Hunter Rider]

Best Picture
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Frost/Nixon
Milk
The Reader
Slumdog Millionaire

Actor
Richard Jenkins - The Visitor
Frank Langella - Frost/Nixon
Sean Penn - Milk
Brad Pitt - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Mickey Rourke - The Wrestler

Actress
Anne Hathaway - Rachel Getting Married
Angelina Jolie - Changeling
Melissa Leo - Frozen River
Meryl Streep - Doubt
Kate Winslet - The Reader

Supporting Actor
Josh Brolin - Milk
Robert Downey Jr. - Tropic Thunder
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Doubt
Heath Ledger - The Dark Knight
Michael Shannon - Revolutionary Road

Supporting Actress
Amy Adams - Doubt
Penelope Cruz - Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Viola Davis - Doubt
Taraji P. Henson - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Marisa Tomei - The Wrestler

Director
David Fincher
Ron Howard
Gus Van Sant
Stephen Daldry
Danny Boyle

Original Screenplay
Courtney Hunt - Frozen River
Mike Leigh - Happy-Go-Lucky
Martin - In Bruges
Dustin Lance Black - Milk
Andrew Stanton - WALL•E

Adapted Screenplay
Eric Roth + Robin Swicord - Benjamin Button
John Patrick Shanley - Doubt
Peter Morgan - Frost/Nixon
David Hare - The Reader
Simon Beaufoy - Slumdog Millionaire

Foreign Language
Der Baader Meinhof Komplex
The Class
Departures
Revanche
Waltz with Bashir

Animated
Bolt
Kung Fun Panda
WALL•E

[Jokers_Wild]

Well, since TDK isn't 'good enough' for a best picture nom...don't expect any other comic book movie to ever be nominated. IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN.

[Christmas]

If TDK hadn't been nominated for the DGA, PGA, and WGA, I wouldn't have been surprised by this.

But after being honored by all three of those guilds, I have to say: I am completely and utterly shell shocked right now. It's crazy.

No Nolan nomination. No Best Pic. No Adapted Screenplay.

How can it be, all these guilds members vote no?

[The Riddler]

Well, since TDK isn't 'good enough' for a best picture nom...don't expect any other comic book movie to ever be nominated. IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN.

watchmen?

[JP]

Well, now I'm really glad TDK wasn't nominated for best picture. If you guys act like this now I can only imagine the uproar that would have taken place when it didn't win.

[JonnyQ]

Aranofsky didn't even get a director nomination?!?!?!?!?!

What on earth are they up to this year?:huh:

[Symbiotic]

Well, since TDK isn't 'good enough' for a best picture nom...don't expect any other comic book movie to ever be nominated. IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN.

I agree. It's unfortunate.

[Cmill216]

Well, since TDK isn't 'good enough' for a best picture nom...don't expect any other comic book movie to ever be nominated. IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN.

Unless they have Steve Rogers crying in the middle of a concentration camp, I agree.

[Spidey 2007]

watchmen?

not going to happen.

[marvelman2006]

Who is in charge of the oscars? really? i would like to know the voting process because for the past couple of years the ones that win big are movies i will never see. i still dont get the big boner about no country for old men or there will be blood. i saw both and i wasnt impressed, more like bored. why do they always pick these movies that are low budget and are ones the general public will never see or care about.

[Hunter Rider]

Aranofsky didn't even get a director nomination?!?!?!?!?!

What on earth are they up to this year?:huh:

The Wrestler was the worst shafted of the lot IMO.

[Symbiotic]

watchmen?

I'd love that. I really would. I don't think the Academy would go for it though. I think our most likely chances were with TDK.

[baerrtt]

Well, now I'm really glad TDK wasn't nominated for best picture. If you guys act like this now I can only imagine the uproar that would have taken place when it didn't win.

I don't think there would have been an uproar if it didn't win. It being nominated for the top prize would have been reward enough.

[Cmill216]

Well, now I'm really glad TDK wasn't nominated for best picture. If you guys act like this now I can only imagine the uproar that would have taken place when it didn't win.

It wouldn't have been nearly as violent, because most fans were content with at least the nomination. At least being in contention means something.

[The Riddler]

not going to happen.

of course it won't, but i won't be surprised if the flick ends up being almost as good as tdk.

[byte19]

If TDK hadn't been nominated for the DGA, PGA, and WGA, I wouldn't have been surprised by this.

But after being honored by all three of those guilds, I have to say: I am completely and utterly shell shocked right now. It's crazy.

No Nolan nomination. No Best Pic. No Adapted Screenplay.
and no one here to watch what has become a crap fest to celebrate themselves regardless of fans or critic's choice

[JP]

The Wrestler was the worst shafted of the lot IMO.
Agreed.

But I am extremely happy for the MILK love. It probably wont win anything though. :(

[General Vulcun]

This is so very infuriated, because we know that TDK was better. It's not like it was legitimately neck-and-neck with another film that could've edged out TDK and honestly wouldn't have been that big a surprise. TDK got snubbed by the Academy for a vastly inferior film, and it's all because of it's genre.

That is why I'm mad, and that it why the Oscars have lost whatever little bit of meaning they may have had left. I have no faith in this award for the future, and wont be sticking around to find out.

[nimrodson]

All I wanted was a nod. For Nolan. I thought THAT was a long shot, but do-able.

[JonnyQ]

The Wrestler was the worst shafted of the lot IMO.

Definately. I saw it on Tuesday and not only was Rourke phenomenal, the direction was just...wow. I loved that film!

[JP]

The Wrestler was the worst shafted of the lot IMO.

It wouldn't have been nearly as violent, because most fans were content with at least the nomination. At least being in contention means something.
That doesn't seem to be the case from what I'm reading. :/

[saska83]

I can't believe, TDK receive only for technical stuffs... at least Heath received the nomination for Joker... this is another prove that The Academy are amount of "people" that has no idea which movie is really good, and which is not.

[nimrodson]

I'd like to see The Wrestler, but it's not playing in my township...

[Symbiotic]

Anyone else have this feeling that they'll snub Heath for the win?

[Jokers_Wild]

Well, now I'm really glad TDK wasn't nominated for best picture. If you guys act like this now I can only imagine the uproar that would have taken place when it didn't win.

I would have never expected TDK to win...but I didn't think the nomination was too much to ask for. Guess I was sorely mistaken.

[J.Howlett]

I say again, you could've easily put in The Wrestler, Revolutionary Road, Wall E, and The Dark Knight in the best picture category instead of the films we got.

Those four films are vastly superior to what we got.

[Spidey 2007]

of course it won't, but i won't be surprised if the flick ends up being almost as good as tdk.

yea i wouldn't be surprised if it is ALMOST as good...lol

But wont be as good. TDK was the best chance in breaking the mold. Zack Snyder doesnt have it in him.

[scifiwolf]

Well, at eight nominations, that's not bad. It should have definitely gotten one more at the very least with best director.

[Spidey 2007]

Well, at eight nominations, that's not bad. It should have definitely gotten one more at the very least with best director.

Should have gotten music as well.. dissapointed in that.

[Fenrir]

Anyone else have this feeling that they'll snub Heath for the win?

That's what I'm afraid of too.

[The Riddler]

yea i wouldn't be surprised if it is ALMOST as good...lol

But wont be as good. TDK was the best chance in breaking the mold. Zack Snyder doesnt have it in him.

yep, snyder keeps it from possibly being great, but who knows, maybe he'll surprise us.

[Christmas]

Anyone else have this feeling that they'll snub Heath for the win?

If that happened, on air, I'd hope the person who did win would refrain from going on stage to accept it.

The Sh**-storm that would ensue would be insane.

[jmc]

Well, I think we've all learned something today, there will never be a Superhero film nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. If there was one Superhero that stood the best chance for an Oscar nod it's Batman, in terms of mythology his was always the grittiest, the darkest and the most suited to be interpreted into something really deep and layered. That's exactly what we got and it still wasn't good enough. The Academy has today shown it's true colours, and to them there is no room at the table for a film about a guy in a cape and a guy in clown make up. There is consolation in the fact that Ledger will win the supporting actor Oscar, there's is also the satisfaction of knowing that for all the hype and glitz of the Oscar ceremony, the defining film of 2008 will always be The Dark Knight, Oscar nomination or no, that is a fact that can't be denied. The one downside however I can see now is that the non-nomination could potentially lead Hollywood (and more importantly WB) to go back to it's old ways of producing less than stellar Superhero films, one hopes this is not the case. Regardless, what's done is done, and there's no point crying fowl over it, the media pundits will do a lot of that anyway, we should take solace in the fact what what we've gotten in the end is the best damn Batman film, the best damn comic adaption ever, a few pieces of metal don't need to tell us that, awards are nice, but the appreciation of the work is what is sort after most, and I'm sure Nolan and Co. would say the same.

[WVsax27]

I'll be watching anyway, because I always watch.

Honestly before the critcs and guilds started jumping in this was really about how I expected it to end up...so I'm not too disappointed I guess. I was actually happy with a few other nominations..


Amy Adams
putting Winslet in LEAD for The Reader, which is where she should be.
no acting nominations for Slumdog
In Brughs for original screenplay

[FlawlessVictory]

That doesn't seem to be the case from what I'm reading. :/

You do realize that TDK was recognized by the PGA, WGA and DGA as one of the top five films of the year right? Its not like TDK wasn't cracking the top 5 of any lists and all of a sudden people in here are upset and feel it should have gotten nominated only because ITZ TEH BATMAN AGAINST TEH JOKERZ!!1!

And who here is giving the impression that IF TDK didn't win the Best Picture award there would have been some kind of riot. No one here has acted like that. If you have been following this thread almost everyone here would have been content to see TDK just get the nomination.

[Dark Donnie]

Well, I think we've all learned something today, there will never be a Superhero film nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. If there was one Superhero that stood the best chance for an Oscar nod it's Batman, in terms of mythology his was always the grittiest, the darkest and the most suited to be interpreted into something really deep and layered. That's exactly what we got and it still wasn't good enough. The Academy has today shown it's true colours, and to them there is no room at the table for a film about a guy in a cape and a guy in clown make up. There is consolation in the fact that Ledger will win the supporting actor Oscar, there's is also the satisfaction of knowing that for all the hype and glitz of the Oscar ceremony, the defining film of 2008 will always be The Dark Knight, Oscar nomination or no, that is a fact that can't be denied. The one downside however I can see now is that the non-nomination could potentially lead Hollywood (and more importantly WB) to go back to it's old ways of producing less than stellar Superhero films, one hopes this is not the case. Regardless, what's done is done, and there's no point crying fowl over it, the media pundits will do a lot of that anyway, we should take solace in the fact what what we've gotten in the end is the best damn Batman film, the best damn comic adaption ever, a few pieces of metal don't need to tell us that, awards are nice, but the appreciation of the work is what is sort after most, and I'm sure Nolan and Co. would say the same.

It still got 8 Nominations

It's not a snub either when the nomination wasn't a sure thing in the first place.

[Symbiotic]

The one downside however I can see now is that the non-nomination could potentially lead Hollywood (and more importantly WB) to go back to it's old ways of producing less than stellar Superhero films, one hopes this is not the case.

I wouldn't worry about that.

[byte19]

Should have gotten music as well.. dissapointed in that.
aww ****!!! thanks for bringing that up!:csad: i'm off before i cyber-kill JP for yacking bout at least it's got this.. at least... if you ain't stunned, ticked, or even a little upset at this atroscity, just stop ok?

[Jokers_Wild]

That's what I'm afraid of too.

I'm starting to wonder...Heath winning 95%+ of film critics awards may not be enough for these people.

[Nina7]

I can't believe TDK was booted out by The Reader, a movie that I actually hated. Yes, it has a 60% RT average, but it has an even lower top critics average, 52%(and a 58 average on metacritic). It doesn't deserve any major award recognition. Trust me, this movie will be forgotten the day after the awards. I think this RT summation perfectly describes the movie:

Despite Kate Winslet's superb portrayal, The Reader suggests an emotionally distant, Oscar-baiting historical drama.

[Christmas]

flawless victory just about summed it all up.

[FlawlessVictory]

Well, I think we've all learned something today, there will never be a Superhero film nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. If there was one Superhero that stood the best chance for an Oscar nod it's Batman, in terms of mythology his was always the grittiest, the darkest and the most suited to be interpreted into something really deep and layered. That's exactly what we got and it still wasn't good enough. The Academy has today shown it's true colours, and to them there is no room at the table for a film about a guy in a cape and a guy in clown make up. There is consolation in the fact that Ledger will win the supporting actor Oscar, there's is also the satisfaction of knowing that for all the hype and glitz of the Oscar ceremony, the defining film of 2008 will always be The Dark Knight, Oscar nomination or no, that is a fact that can't be denied. The one downside however I can see now is that the non-nomination could potentially lead Hollywood (and more importantly WB) to go back to it's old ways of producing less than stellar Superhero films, one hopes this is not the case. Regardless, what's done is done, and there's no point crying fowl over it, the media pundits will do a lot of that anyway, we should take solace in the fact what what we've gotten in the end is the best damn Batman film, the best damn comic adaption ever, a few pieces of metal don't need to tell us that, awards are nice, but the appreciation of the work is what is sort after most, and I'm sure Nolan and Co. would say the same.

Yup, I knew it all along. Part of me felt like I was being pessimistic when I said I didn't feel TDK would get the nod even after the recognition by the guilds. But turns out I was just being realistic. People were claiming it was a lock for Best Pic, I never saw how.

Bottom line. If Batman didn't wear a cape and cowl and if the Joker didn't wear make-up and the characters had different names, it would have received a Best Pic nom. End of story.

[Kargo Warrior]

TDK on rotten tomatoes 94%
Reader 60%

TDK on 134 Top 10 critics list
The Reader on 22

IMDB TDK 9.0 from 333.000 votes
The Reader 8.0 from 2000 votes

I havent seen this big of a travesty since i dont know when.

[Hamill-Joker]

And the winner of Best Supporting Actor is............

Robert Downey Jr. for Tropic Thunder

[Spidey 2007]

Well at LEAST we all know that The Dark Knight will sweep the MTV's best picture and every other award of theirs....

[p.marlowe]

I just want to point out that the perception is that their will be a third film. It could be that the clueless academy decided to wait for the third one and then honor that one, and by default honor all three Nolan Batman films. They did this with The Lord of the Rings. (The difference being the first two were nominated, I think)
The academy is clueless. The Reader? Really?
I hope Wally Pfister wins cinematogaphy

[magicangel1989]

8 nominations! Wow! I wasn't expecting that!

I for one was not expecting the Dark Knight to get best picture. I was expecting for Heath to get that supporting nod. But seven other nominations as well? That is impressive!

[Symbiotic]

I love The Reader's consensus on Rotten Tomatoes: "Despite Kate Winslet's superb portrayal, The Reader suggests an emotionally distant, Oscar-baiting historical drama." Yep, I'd say so.

[jmc]

It still got 8 Nominations

It's not a snub either when the nomination wasn't a sure thing in the first place.

It basically was given the 'highly comendable' nominations, 8 nods is good, but it deserved better. It was beaten out by a below par film, one that not even the best Oscar pundits thought was a serious challenger.

[Christmas]

It still got 8 Nominations

It's not a snub either when the nomination wasn't a sure thing in the first place.

It is a snub. The film received accolades from all the major film guilds. Where the hell else in recent history has a movie been honored so highly by its peers in the guilds and then not by the Academy?

[Cmill216]

It's not a snub either when the nomination wasn't a sure thing in the first place.

It sure as hell is a snub when you look at how the film performed with the guilds, associations, critics, and public.

[jmc]

TDK on rotten tomatoes 94%
Reader 60%

TDK on 134 Top 10 critics list
The Reader on 22

IMDB TDK 9.0 from 333.000 votes
The Reader 8.0 from 2000 votes

I havent seen this big of a travesty since i dont know when.

Zodiac.

[The_Joker7895]

Its like the ultimate facepalm. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. Whatever, history will judge accordingly (sorry to quote Bush there lol). A year from now, no one will remember Frost/Nixon, Milk, or The Reader. I mean, I expected a situation maybe to Brokeback Mountain, but not this ridiculous.

Biggest snubs:

The Dark Knight - Best Picture, Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, best Original Score
The Wrestler - Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, Best Original Song

I would have honestly rather seen some Clint Eastwood ass-kissing than the academy just basically pulling down Daldry and Howards pants and kissing their asses. Could they be any more out of touch with reality or any more arrogant?

[Christmas]

and where the hell was RAMBO???

[jmc]

The thing is I think most would be fine if TDK was beaten out by a film of equal or better standard, but The Reader? You may as well have nominated The Love Guru.

[Badabing45]

I just want to point out that the perception is that their will be a third film. It could be that the clueless academy decided to wait for the third one and then honor that one, and by default honor all three Nolan Batman films. They did this with The Lord of the Rings. (The difference being the first two were nominated, I think)
The academy is clueless. The Reader? Really?
I hope Wally Pfister wins cinematogaphy

It's never going to happen, unless the next Batman takes place in Nazi Germany.

This year's Oscar nominations just prove that it's all about campaigning and sending out screening DVDs to Academy Members at the right time, and not what connects with audiences and critics. It means that a World War II epic that gets mediocre reviews and middling box office will always take precedent over an acclaimed superhero film, an acclaimed animated movie, and even an acclaimed drama by Clint Eastwood.

Very disappointing, but that The Dark Knight missing out on Best Picture and Best Director is considered a snub is a bitter victory in of itself. And Heath Ledger is going to win Best Supporting Actor in the highest rated segment of the night.

[[A]]

8 nominations.. wow. I haven't seen The Reader--though Memoirs of a Slumdog over-praise will piss me off for ever and ever and evermore.. for the next couple weeks.

[FlawlessVictory]

The thing is I think most would be fine if TDK was beaten out by a film or equal or better standard, but The Reader? You may as well have nominated The Love Guru.

Agreed. If it was beaten out by The Wrestler or Wall-E I could understand. But The Reader? What a joke. The Academy fell for complete Oscar bait garbage. :down

[Angeloz]

Will I get death threats if I say I'm not surprised? 'Cos I'm not. By the way I liked the film but they rarely nominate blockbusters. Especially comic book based superhero films (for directing or best film especially). So if they had of done it here I would of been pleasantly surprised.

Angeloz

[Bim]

Honestly before the critcs and guilds started jumping in this was really about how I expected it to end up...so I'm not too disappointed I guess.
Same here, i would have been positively surprised if they had nominated Nolan and TDK for best movie. But i wasnt expecting it at all, i had the feeling this wasnt gonna happen. For me the one nomination i would have been really pissed off about if they wouldnt have given it would have been Heath's.

[[A]]

The Wrestler should've got more love :cmad: grrr

[redfirebird2008]

The Reader? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WVsax27]

I thought The Wrestler would get 3 nominations, the only one it missed was for Original Song..which I thought it was a lock to win. Hopefully "Down to Earth" wins now, I hate the music in Slumdog.

[Illstreet]

Very dissapointing morning indeed... But we all know that "The Dark Knight" will live on longer and be more remembered and talked about than any of these films. So it really doesn't matter...

Taking into consideration that both "The Dark Knight" and "The Wrestler" were not even nominated, I'm hoping for a "Slumdog Millionaire" win for Best Picture as it's head and shoulders above the others that are nominated.

In any event, can't wait to see "TDK" in IMAX again saturday...

*Thinks*

"The Reader"... lol... What a joke.

[ShadowBoxing]

Zodiac.
I hated Zodiac. Arthur Leigh Allen's names has been dragged through the mud enough, especially since the movie was made after DNA evidence exonerated him.

[The Chris]

I tell you. I will never forgive this. and Not just for the Dark Knight, but for The wrestler, and for Wall-E. Three films that everyone and their mother loved, yet they put in the holocaust film, that not many even liked, and I've never heard anyone say they loved it. I'm done with these clowns. They're not in touch with what anyone else thinks. Not the public and not the critics. They're truly pathetic. Truly, and there's no reason to care about what they think anymore. They don't care about what we think.

[KILLING JOKER]

You have to realize that we are not talking about winning the oscar here......TDK was not even nominated? How can that not be a suprise and a disgusting upset. The fact that it's a superhero movie does not apply in this case because as every crittic observed, this was NOT a superhero movie.

[FCEEVIPER]

Fricken snubbed! :o :o :o :cmad:

[[A]]

And you know what, I just save a couple hundred bucks, since I was gonna buy whatever card you need to watch tv on your computer--so thank you very much Academy-whatever®

[Christmas]

The Chris-Your top 5 woulda been a pretty cool nomination list to see. It would have made for a helluva exciting show.

[redfirebird2008]

Methinks I'll just wait for the Supporting Actor video to show up on YouTube. They don't deserve our viewership. The Reader...bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

[[A]]

^ go Youtube!

[The Chris]

The Chris-Your top 5 woulda been a pretty cool nomination list to see. It would have made for a helluva exciting show.

hell yeah it would have been. But not the joke they've given everyone.