The Oscar Push!

[jmc]

I know, I didn't mean otherwise. But TDK is not an adaption of a previous work. It is a totally different take on established characters. I can certainly understand it is considered an adapted screenplay, but it wouldn't shock me at all if was considered an original screeplay instead.

Did TDK not take influences from The Killing Joke, Long Halloween, Year One etc? Simply put, you don't have to make a translation of a specific story, the characters and the mythology's origin is in the form of another medium, once you take those characters and settings and transfer it to another medium, you are adapting that work. Is TDK a different interpretation? Yes, is the source material original? No. TDK can't be considered for Original Screenplay, there's no two ways about it.

[The Chris]

Yep, it would be adapted screenplay. Which will be hard because of all these damn play adaptations.

[General Vulcun]

http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/ctrl-v/2008/12/oscar-buzz-whos-ahead-in-this-years-key-races.html

The script doesn't make the top 5, but is still considered a strong contender for Best Adapted Screenplay.
Ledger makes #1 for Best Supporting Actor.
Nolan makes #4 for Best Director.
The Dark Knight makes #5 for Best Picture.

[Sonic1002]

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/top-trailers-of-2008-4.html#watch
#1 most watched Trailer on Yahoo!

[Anita18]

May have a new contender, Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino is apparently getting great reviews, some saying it's Eastwood's best work in both directing and acting in his whole career. Good to see old mate Eastwood still kicking goals, Clint is the man. :up:

Hmm, the trailer didn't interest me at all. Seemed like hokey overwrought racism drama. But from what I understand, the trailers for Million Dollar Baby didn't let on what the film was really about, so I guess we don't really know for sure, LOL.

While I've never even heard of the Satellite Awards, can anyone explain why Benjamin Button was put up for original screenplay, and not as the article suggested, adapted? If movies are based off of books, isn't a rule that they must be put in the adapted category, or is that just an Oscar thing?
I've read the original F. Scott Fitzgerald story (it's pretty short) and aside from the basic concept of a man growing younger, the film doesn't look like it follows the story at all. I didn't recognize any of the character names on IMDB aside from Benjamin Button. :oldrazz:

Not me, but it's just that:
The Satellite Awards (which often predict the Golden Globes, which in turn predict the Oscars)


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The fact that it snubbed Benjamin Button, which is still on many Oscar shortlists, shows that we shouldn't take this list of nominations as a true prediction of Oscar nominations.

It's adapted because of the source material. Harvey Milk was a real person, unless the screenwriter used a bio book as his resource.
From what I've read, the fact that TDK is a sequel automatically places it in adapted screenplay.

[DarkCampaign]

QFT, the Academy needs to recognize Comic films. TDK should be at least nominated.
That's all we're asking for really.

Today I'm emailing those oscar sites SuperZer0 mentioned:
Awards Circuit
http://www.awardscircuit.com/

Awards Daily
http://www.awardsdaily.com/

In Contention
http://www.incontention.com/

The Oscar Site
http://theoscarsite.com/

The Envelope
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/

Little Golden Guy
http://www.littlegoldenguy.com/

Oscar Watch
http://www.oscarwatch.com/

The Oscar Guy
http://www.oscarguy.com/

If anyone wants to help our push by sending them a link to the movie at DarkCampaign.com that would be really really helpful. If the movie persuades just a few academy voters to consider the film for a nomination in the Best Picture category, it'll be a big moment for comic book films.

[FlawlessVictory]

Going by what I've read so far I would say Milk and Frost/Nixon are locks, followed by Slumdog Millionaire, Revolutionary Road and then a battle royale between Doubt, The Reader, Gran Gorino and TDK for the last spot with it ultimately either going to Doubt or The Reader.

[NickyTea]

Of course it would be wonderful for TDK to be nominated or win any manner of awards. But think of all the life-altering films that came and went with not so much as a mention. Gems slip through the cracks for all sorts of reasons, some political, and some accidental.

But let's not forget, "art may have commercial prospects, but its true worth lies in its effect on the individual." It's fun to posit wins and nominations, but don't let it shine over what TDK did for, or means to, you.

[rashad]

I didn't know where else to put this. But this was a recently fan made trailer. It's pretty epic. :)

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[Dark Knight]

That's all we're asking for really.

Today I'm emailing those oscar sites SuperZer0 mentioned:
Awards Circuit
http://www.awardscircuit.com/

Awards Daily
http://www.awardsdaily.com/

In Contention
http://www.incontention.com/

The Oscar Site
http://theoscarsite.com/

The Envelope
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/

Little Golden Guy
http://www.littlegoldenguy.com/

Oscar Watch
http://www.oscarwatch.com/

The Oscar Guy
http://www.oscarguy.com/

If anyone wants to help our push by sending them a link to the movie at DarkCampaign.com that would be really really helpful. If the movie persuades just a few academy voters to consider the film for a nomination in the Best Picture category, it'll be a big moment for comic book films.


We should all participate on this push. If TDK doesn't get nominated for Best Picture and Nolan doesn't get nominated for Best Director.....than something is seriously wrong with the Academy.

[DarkCampaign]

I'm also heavily focused on contacting FirstShowing.net: movies@firstshowing.net because they're the first ones to run a serious major discussion of "So What if the Dark Knight Wins Best Picture." (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/11/23/sunday-discussion-so-what-if-the-dark-knight-wins-best-picture/)

[Sarge 2.0]

There's no need for a grassroots campaign! TDK is not an underdog! :huh:

[DarkCampaign]

There's no need for a grassroots campaign! TDK is not an underdog! :huh:
Right now it is. Most Oscar pundits are predicting it will not get a Best Picture nod.

[Sarge 2.0]

Right now it is. Most Oscar pundits are predicting it will not get a Best Picture nod.I don't know which ones you're referring to, but for the most part it's predicted to get the Best Picture nod. :huh:

But even if it doesn't, it's really not the end of the world. :huh:

There were better movies than TDK that were released this year y'know. :huh:

[Crook]

Not to mention that most here didn't give a damn about the Oscars and went so far as to discredit everything they stood for. But all of a sudden it's important TDK get a best pic nod along with all the other major categories. :huh:

I feel like it's a lose-lose for the Academy. They'll get ridiculed either way.

[Dark Knight]

I just posted at awards circuit.com about how TDK deserves nominations in the best director, best picture and best cinemetography categories.

[Dark Knight]

There were better movies than TDK that were released this year y'know. :huh:



Really which ones??
:sleepy:

[DarkCampaign]

Not to mention that most here didn't give a damn about the Oscars and went so far as to discredit everything they stood for. But all of a sudden it's important TDK get a best pic nod along with all the other major categories. :huh:

I feel like it's a lose-lose for the Academy. They'll get ridiculed either way.
Well I don't discredit the Oscars, I think they're a pretty notable award. And why care? Well because it's a part of history. If TDK is the first comic book film to ever be nominated for Best Picture, that's goes down in the history books.

The alternative option is that it's written off as just another Hollywood comic book blockbuster and the studios completely ignore the quality, care, cinematography, and storytelling that set it apart from the rest. The better TDK does in terms of prestige and respect, the higher the bar is raised for the artform. I would personally like to see more comic book films like Dark Knight and less Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Elektra, Spiderman 3 and X3. There are so many comic books done badly by studios that don't understand. They all made plenty of money for their studios, but what makes TDK different and special? What makes it a great film? The studios should understand the power of a great comic book storytelling translation and the pointlessness of a bad one. I'm hoping an effort to get a Best Picture nomination makes that clear to them. It's rewarding the studio and filmmakers that did it right.

[jmc]

Not to mention that most here didn't give a damn about the Oscars and went so far as to discredit everything they stood for. But all of a sudden it's important TDK get a best pic nod along with all the other major categories. :huh:

I feel like it's a lose-lose for the Academy. They'll get ridiculed either way.

So true.

[Anita18]

Not to mention that most here didn't give a damn about the Oscars and went so far as to discredit everything they stood for. But all of a sudden it's important TDK get a best pic nod along with all the other major categories. :huh:

I feel like it's a lose-lose for the Academy. They'll get ridiculed either way.
Well, we wouldn't be pushing for it if critics hadn't mentioned it first, LOL. We fanboys/girls certainly don't take Oscar talk among ourselves seriously. It's when it got mentioned in other places that I started taking notice.

It definitely started with talk of Heath being nominated for Best Supporting Actor, and it turned out the movie was damn good too. You usually need an "in" for the Oscars, and IMO, TDK is good enough and big enough box-office-wise to probably get a few other major noms along with the assumed Best Supporting Actor.

The alternative option is that it's written off as just another Hollywood comic book blockbuster and the studios completely ignore the quality, care, cinematography, and storytelling that set it apart from the rest. The better TDK does in terms of prestige and respect, the higher the bar is raised for the artform. I would personally like to see more comic book films like Dark Knight and less Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Elektra, Spiderman 3 and X3. There are so many comic books done badly by studios that don't understand. They all made plenty of money for their studios, but what makes TDK different and special? What makes it a great film? The studios should understand the power of a great comic book storytelling translation and the pointlessness of a bad one. I'm hoping an effort to get a Best Picture nomination makes that clear to them. It's rewarding the studio and filmmakers that did it right.
We're so excited about it because TDK is the closest that comic book movies have gotten to Oscar-caliber. Ever. If there's a time to support a comic book movie for serious filmmaking accolades, it's now.

[Sarge 2.0]

Really which ones??
:sleepy:Slumdog Millionaire, Let the Right One In, Synecdoche New York, Waltz with Bashir, Frozen River, Rachel Getting Married.

[Sarge 2.0]

And I'm not saying TDK wasn't an excellent film, or that it wasn't a classic.

I love TDK and think it's one of the best movies ever and it might be my favorite movie of the year. But even though it was my favorite, it had its share of flaws and there were better movies released this year.

[Anita18]

And I'm not saying TDK wasn't an excellent film, or that it wasn't a classic.

I love TDK and think it's one of the best movies ever and it might be my favorite movie of the year. But even though it was my favorite, it had its share of flaws and there were better movies released this year.
We also know that the Oscars are pretty political. Let the Right One In, Waltz with Bashir, Frozen River, and Synecdoche, New York are considered too small to be thought of as Best Picture nominees.

[jmc]

And I'm not saying TDK wasn't an excellent film, or that it wasn't a classic.

I love TDK and think it's one of the best movies ever and it might be my favorite movie of the year. But even though it was my favorite, it had its share of flaws and there were better movies released this year.

Every films has it's flaws, even the absolute cream of the crop have issues, the thing is the flaws don't stick out like a saw thumb, TDK's flaws aren't detrimental to the overall film.

[Sarge 2.0]

Every films has it's flaws, even the absolute cream of the crop have issues, the thing is the flaws don't stick out like a saw thumb, TDK's flaws aren't detrimental to the overall film.They kind of are. Especially the last thirty minutes or so.

[Octoberist]

but that's not everyone's consensus. That's some but not all.

It's not how everyone agrees that The Godfather Part III was the weakest of the trilogy.

[Anita18]

They kind of are. Especially the last thirty minutes or so.
In your opinion. :cwink:

[Sarge 2.0]

In your opinion. :cwink:Uh, of course it's my opinion. I'm the one who said it. :huh:

Stating "in my opinion" is just redundant.

[Hunter Rider]

Slumdog Millionaire, Let the Right One In, Synecdoche New York, Waltz with Bashir, Frozen River, Rachel Getting Married.

Hmmmmmm, wouldn't two of these not even qualify in the best picture category ? Now ive not seen any of these admittedly as none of them have opened here and i truthfully don't know anyone that would go with me too see any of them, but are you saying they don't have flaws as well ?

[Octoberist]

Waltz with Bashir would be documenary (or maybe animation or foreign). Let the Right One In for sure is foreign.

[Sarge 2.0]

Hmmmmmm, wouldn't two of these not even qualify in the best picture category ? Now ive not seen any of these admittedly as none of them have opened here and i truthfully don't know anyone that would go with me too see any of them, but are you saying they don't have flaws as well ?I never said they were going for Best Picture or were flawless, but that they were better films released in 2008. :huh:

TDK's flaws were glaring, and upon second viewing deterred from the enjoyment of the film. It's still my favorite film of the year though. Why? 'Cause it's Batman and it's the greatest comic book movie ever made.

[DarkCampaign]

Turns out a lot of sites like our TDK campaign...

InContention.com ran a story about us here:
http://www.incontention.com/?p=3251

"This is all the more interesting to me right now given that as of this afternoon, I have buckled and placed “The Dark Knight” into my predicted five Best Picture nominees. With films falling out left and right, this one is still standing and still resonates. "

And one from CinematicallyCorrect:
http://cinematicallycorrect.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/these-guys-are-taking-the-dark-knight-oscar-campaign-to-new-heights/

And from The Awards Circuit Blog:
http://theoscarigloo.blogspot.com/2008/12/in-case-you-thought-dark-knight-is.html

All pretty positive. :)

[jmc]

I'm officially throwing my weight into the campaign. Enjoy. :woot:

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[DarkCampaign]

I'm officially throwing my weight into the campaign. Enjoy. :woot:

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That's awesome! Can I post that on the site? :D

[FCEEVIPER]

That pretty much rocks jmc!

[dark_b]

I'm officially throwing my weight into the campaign. Enjoy. :woot:

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[DarkCampaign]

"Fans Pick Up Oscar Slack as Warner Bros. Kills ‘Dark Knight’ Re-Release"

Check it out:
http://stalknblog.com/2008/12/02/fans-pick-up-oscar-slack-as-warner-bros-kills-dark-knight-re-release-oscars/

[Dark Knight]

Slumdog Millionaire, Let the Right One In, Synecdoche New York, Waltz with Bashir, Frozen River, Rachel Getting Married.



LOL....Like those films didn't have flaws??

EVERY film has flaws!

Slumdog was good....and I sure as hell think a film like Rachel Getting Married is OVERRATED to say the least.

The other films are to small and I have no interest in seeing them. :sleepy:

[Sarge 2.0]

LOL....Like those films didn't have flaws??

EVERY film has flaws!

Slumdog was good....and I sure as hell think a film like Rachel Getting Married is OVERRATED to say the least.

The other films are to small and I have no interest in seeing them. :sleepy:I didn't say they didn't have flaws. I said they were better than TDK :huh:

The other films may be "small" in their budget, but a film like "Synecdoche, New York" is epic on a scale that TDK is not. And you're robbing yourself of the experience of seeing great films when you don't watch movies that aren't "big" enough. :rolleyes:

[hatebox]

I never said they were going for Best Picture or were flawless, but that they were better films released in 2008. :huh:

TDK's flaws were glaring, and upon second viewing deterred from the enjoyment of the film. It's still my favorite film of the year though. Why? 'Cause it's Batman and it's the greatest comic book movie ever made.

You're the only person I've heard who liked it less the second time. Even people I've talked with who disliked it the first time preferred it slightly the second time. Ah well.

[Dark Knight]

I didn't say they didn't have flaws. I said they were better than TDK :huh:

The other films may be "small" in their budget, but a film like "Synecdoche, New York" is epic on a scale that TDK is not. And you're robbing yourself of the experience of seeing great films when you don't watch movies that aren't "big" enough. :rolleyes:



No....but maybe those films don't interest me? How is that for a concept? :whatever: Or how about I don't have enough time?? :huh:

:hoboj:

[Sarge 2.0]

No....but maybe those films don't interest me? How is that for a concept? :whatever: Or how about I don't have enough time?? :huh:

:hoboj:Are you stupid? You're the one who said that you didn't want to watch them because they're "to [sic] small"

And I was kind enough not to correct your spelling the first time.

But you're the kind of person that causes backlash against TDK, and the backlash comes with good reason.

I'm going to answer my own question. Yes, you are stupid. Very.

[General Vulcun]

Has Warners really lost faith in TDK's Oscar chances? Really, this film is just as good as those other choices. The fact that those films are more real life dramas should not, in any way, place them above TDK in Oscar chances. Quality is quality. Period. And no other film this year is as celebrated as TDK, and should get this nomination.

Warner Bros., I urge you, just shove this campaign down the Academy's throat. They don't want to believe comic book films can be great, well then make 'em!

[Sarge 2.0]

You're the only person I've heard who liked it less the second time. Even people I've talked with who disliked it the first time preferred it slightly the second time. Ah well.I didn't like it less per se...but I was very aware of its flaws. Like the pacing of the last thirty minutes. And the soundtrack drowning out the dialogue of whole scenes, making it basically impossible to discern what the characters were saying.

[Sarge 2.0]

Do I have to reiterate that I loved the Dark Knight? :huh:

But if we're talking about best movies of the year, there were better. And as far as best movies of all time, TDK doesn't even crack the top ten, it's probably better suited somewhere in the top fifty.

[Fenrir]

Turns out a lot of sites like our TDK campaign...

InContention.com ran a story about us here:
http://www.incontention.com/?p=3251

"This is all the more interesting to me right now given that as of this afternoon, I have buckled and placed “The Dark Knight” into my predicted five Best Picture nominees. With films falling out left and right, this one is still standing and still resonates. "

And one from CinematicallyCorrect:
http://cinematicallycorrect.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/these-guys-are-taking-the-dark-knight-oscar-campaign-to-new-heights/

And from The Awards Circuit Blog:
http://theoscarigloo.blogspot.com/2008/12/in-case-you-thought-dark-knight-is.html

All pretty positive. :)

Proper good job, mate. No matter what the result, at least it won't be for lack of trying. :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Has Warners really lost faith in TDK's Oscar chances? Really, this film is just as good as those other choices. The fact that those films are more real life dramas should not, in any way, place them above TDK in Oscar chances. Quality is quality. Period. And no other film this year is as celebrated as TDK, and should get this nomination.

Warner Bros., I urge you, just shove this campaign down the Academy's throat. They don't want to believe comic book films can be great, well then make 'em!You do realize that would backfire tremendously, and that more than likely TDK would be excluded from the ballots out of spite. It's an incredibly stupid and immature course of action for a professional film studio to undertake.

[DarkCampaign]

Hey we made awesomely famous snarky Hollywood Gawker blog Defamer! And they were pretty nice to us! :)
http://defamer.com/5101109/fans-pick-up-oscar-slack-as-warner-bros-kills-dark-knight-re+release

[StylishHokie21]

Do I have to reiterate that I loved the Dark Knight? :huh:

But if we're talking about best movies of the year, there were better. And as far as best movies of all time, TDK doesn't even crack the top ten, it's probably better suited somewhere in the top fifty.

Well said! :applaud

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Awesometastic!! :wow: :applaud

[Hunter Rider]

I never said they were going for Best Picture or were flawless, but that they were better films released in 2008. :huh:

TDK's flaws were glaring, and upon second viewing deterred from the enjoyment of the film. It's still my favorite film of the year though. Why? 'Cause it's Batman and it's the greatest comic book movie ever made.

Ok my error, but what were their flaws ? why are their flaws more acceptable ? Personally I don't give a crap if TDK gets nominated or not, the most important opinion on this years films to me is my own, but i am curious as too how these films were "better" in your mind.

Are you stupid? You're the one who said that you didn't want to watch them because they're "to [sic] small"

And I was kind enough not to correct your spelling the first time.

But you're the kind of person that causes backlash against TDK, and the backlash comes with good reason.

I'm going to answer my own question. Yes, you are stupid. Very.

Sarge, this kind of personal stuff isn't needed, keep to the points.

[Sarge 2.0]

Ok my error, but what were their flaws ? why are their flaws more acceptable ? Personally I don't give a crap if TDK gets nominated or not, the most important opinion on this years films to me is my own, but i am curious as too how these films were "better" in your mind.
Rachel Getting Married had some pretty weak acting from the supporting cast.

Slumdog Millionaire felt kind of lackluster in the execution of some of the major themes of the story, but overall it was more successful in making up for its flaws than TDK.

Let the Right One In had some odd moments that didn't seem to fit, some scenes that seemed a little like padding, but overall it was a much more efficiently paced and executed movie than TDK. Maybe the most memorable film I've seen this year.

Waltz with Bashir was pretty avant-garde, and that effect could be jarring. It's definitely not a movie for everyone, but on whole I felt it was a better film than TDK because it touched on deeper themes more strongly than TDK did.

Synecdoche, New York is almost incomprehensible the first time through, but it's an excellent film that spans the scope of human existence in a really innovative and exciting way.

Frozen River was difficult to get in to, but once you did it was an excellent film.

[Fanticon]

lately I only see about 15% of all Oscar Nominated films in the theaters...I actually usually only get to see the ones that get the best picture nod...but so far...all the buzz about these other films...I just don't feel it yet...Milk is the only one I see getting a lot of press.

[Anita18]

I'm officially throwing my weight into the campaign. Enjoy. :woot:

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Nice! :applaud

[byte19]

that works!

[DarkCampaign]

Awards Daily picked up the story!
http://www.awardsdaily.com/?p=4470
"The Dark Campaign - All Hail one of the Best of 2008"

This is amazing. I can't believe the response we're getting.

[jmc]

That's awesome! Can I post that on the site? :D

Go for it.

[Dark Knight]

Are you stupid? You're the one who said that you didn't want to watch them because they're "to [sic] small"

And I was kind enough not to correct your spelling the first time.

But you're the kind of person that causes backlash against TDK, and the backlash comes with good reason.

I'm going to answer my own question. Yes, you are stupid. Very.



Am I stupid really?? :whatever:

Because I choose not to watch films that do not peak my interest?

Seems like your the one with the problem not me....

[RachelDawes]

Awards Daily picked up the story!
http://www.awardsdaily.com/?p=4470
"The Dark Campaign - All Hail one of the Best of 2008"

This is amazing. I can't believe the response we're getting.

You shouldn't be surprised. You made a fabulous trailer. :applaud

[Dark Sentinel]

Congrats DarkCampaign!!! Well done man, that warrants a :hoboj: from me

[Dark Knight]

Rachel Getting Married had some pretty weak acting from the supporting cast.

Slumdog Millionaire felt kind of lackluster in the execution of some of the major themes of the story, but overall it was more successful in making up for its flaws than TDK.

Let the Right One In had some odd moments that didn't seem to fit, some scenes that seemed a little like padding, but overall it was a much more efficiently paced and executed movie than TDK. Maybe the most memorable film I've seen this year.

Waltz with Bashir was pretty avant-garde, and that effect could be jarring. It's definitely not a movie for everyone, but on whole I felt it was a better film than TDK because it touched on deeper themes more strongly than TDK did.

Synecdoche, New York is almost incomprehensible the first time through, but it's an excellent film that spans the scope of human existence in a really innovative and exciting way.

Frozen River was difficult to get in to, but once you did it was an excellent film.




Yeah....you got problems....:whatever: Trying to say "it's posters like me that cause TDK backlash"?? That's laughably pathetic.

If movies like Gladiator and the Lord of the Rings can get nominated for Best Picture and even win.... than I think it is pretty damn obvious that The Dark Knight and it's director along with some crew deserve to be nominated for their accomplishments. It would be utterly disrespectful of the Academy to just brush TDK aside because it is of the comic genre origin.

[Sarge 2.0]

What? :huh:

That makes no sense. :huh:

[Hunter Rider]

Clearly you 2 are not gonna be able too debate so just drop it.

I read your feedbacks Sarge, I'll need to check those films out and see TDK again too see if I agree with you, but I'm always interested in other perspectives.

[Anita18]

Clearly you 2 are not gonna be able too debate so just drop it.
Aaaa, can't...handle...comprehension....

[Sarge 2.0]

Honestly I think I'm done with this thread anyway. No matter how many times I say that I love TDK or that I think it deserves major nominations, a lot of the posters in here still don't want to hear it.

[NickyTea]

Aaaa, can't...handle...comprehension....

It does kind off kill the legitimacy doesn't it?

[Hunter Rider]

Aaaa, can't...handle...comprehension....

It does kind off kill the legitimacy doesn't it?

Am I missing something ?

Honestly I think I'm done with this thread anyway. No matter how many times I say that I love TDK or that I think it deserves major nominations, a lot of the posters in here still don't want to hear it.

Think about it this way Sarge, I'm a pretty open film fan, I watch a lot of stuff that most would simply find dull or crap. You said TDK was a great film, then proceeded to say a bunch of movies aimed at the........"sophisticated" movie fan, shall we say ?..... were better, so for some that sets off the "Ugh, film snob" alarm, now Ive known you quite a while and I'd hazard a guess that you are now studying film and thus you seem a little different to when we talked about it a couple of years ago, and maybe some don't know how to handle that or your short fuse.

[Anita18]

Am I missing something ?
Clearly you 2 are not gonna be able too debate so just drop it.
I dunno, I must have been staring at the computer too long because it took a second for my brain to comprehend that sentence. :funny:

I'm also a bit of a grammar snob and I'm used to numerals only being used when the number is greater than 10. :oldrazz:

But carry on!

[Merkel]

As good as TDK is, it would be a crying shame if it were to be the only really good movie this year. I myself can't wait to see several of the movies that are also mentioned as oscar contenders. Some of them look really interesting.

[Sarge 2.0]

Am I missing something ?



Think about it this way Sarge, I'm a pretty open film fan, I watch a lot of stuff that most would simply find dull or crap. You said TDK was a great film, then proceeded to say a bunch of movies aimed at the........"sophisticated" movie fan, shall we say ?..... were better, so for some that sets off the "Ugh, film snob" alarm, now Ive known you quite a while and I'd hazard a guess that you are now studying film and thus you seem a little different to when we talked about it a couple of years ago, and maybe some don't know how to handle that or your short fuse.I don't think I've changed all that much, other than I've learned more about film and about film criticism. I've broadened my horizon's and it's sometimes frustrating to see people resist some of the best films of the year because they're still caught up in TDK. I loved the film to death, and I'm going to watch it over and over again when I get it on dvd. I don't think I'll even buy the others when they come out, because although I think they're better films, TDK is the one that meant the most to me.

[Merkel]

Have you seen Frost/Nixon, Sarge?

[Sarge 2.0]

Not yet. Nor Have I seen Doubt, The Wrestler, or Benjamin Button.

[Heisenberg]

Awards Daily picked up the story!
http://www.awardsdaily.com/?p=4470
"The Dark Campaign - All Hail one of the Best of 2008"

This is amazing. I can't believe the response we're getting.
JoBlo is running the story too.
http://joblo.com/tdk-best-picture

:applaud Great trailer. Love jmc's poster too.

[Two-Face]

JoBlo is running the story too.
http://joblo.com/tdk-best-picture

:applaud Great trailer. Love jmc's poster too.



That was great trailer, I wanna see TDK ON DVD!!


JMC's poster is amazing. :up::applaud:hoboj: :2face: :brucebat:

[DarkCampaign]

New York Magazine picked up the story!
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/12/dark_knight_fans_not_about_to.html
:D

Tons of other outlets picked it up as well:
http://www.darkcampaign.com/?p=79

[The Chris]

New York Magazine picked up the story!
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/12/dark_knight_fans_not_about_to.html
:D

Tons of other outlets picked it up as well:
http://www.darkcampaign.com/?p=79

Great job. Keep up the good work. I think this is could work. Scratch that, this is gonna work!

[DarkCampaign]

Yeah if you guys could just send a few emails to any sites or entertainment forums that you think should carry the story, that's all it takes. Also I notice we haven't made the main page of SuperheroHype yet. But I think if anything fits in that category of Superhero Hype...

[dark_b]

so some of you here think that if you will promote this that the chances will be bigger for an oscar?

[Sarge 2.0]

Am I missing something ?



Think about it this way Sarge, I'm a pretty open film fan, I watch a lot of stuff that most would simply find dull or crap. You said TDK was a great film, then proceeded to say a bunch of movies aimed at the........"sophisticated" movie fan, shall we say ?..... were better, so for some that sets off the "Ugh, film snob" alarm, now Ive known you quite a while and I'd hazard a guess that you are now studying film and thus you seem a little different to when we talked about it a couple of years ago, and maybe some don't know how to handle that or your short fuse.Look, I'm going to apologize to everyone for the way I've acted. Sometimes I can come off like a snob and I have to pull that back a bit I guess. And to hunter, I may be learning more about film, but hey I'm still yer bud even if we haven't talked for a little while. :up:

So yeah. More power to you guys. :up:

[jmc]

so some of you here think that if you will promote this that the chances will be bigger for an oscar?

It's about the nomination not the statuette. Is there something wrong with fans showing support?

[dark_b]

It's about the nomination not the statuette. Is there something wrong with fans showing support?there is no problem at doing what you want.

i what to know if people think that this will help to get an nomination?

i think every important person saw TDK. but fan-promotion is nothing wrong.

[jmc]

there is no problem at doing what you want.

i what to know if people think that this will help to get an nomination?

i think every important person saw TDK. but fan-promotion is nothing wrong.

Will it help? Unlikely, it's more about 'reminding' Academy folks.

[Dark Knight]

There are a number of valid reasons on why we should push hard for TDK to be nominated for at least the two major categories with Best Picture and Best Director.

This is a just cause and it would push the negative biased opinions about comic based genre films away. If films like Gladiator, The Departed, and Lord of the Rings can be nominated and recognized, then TDK certainly deserves the same recognition.

TDK is easily the best comic genre film off all time and it is DEFINITELY one of the top 5 overall films of 2008.

The quality of the movie, it's direction, it's production, it's acting, along with it's critical and of course huge box office success speak for themselves!

[dark_b]

There are a number of valid reasons on why we should push hard for TDK to be nominated for at least the two major categories with Best Picture and Best Director.

This is a just cause and it would push the negative biased opinions about comic based genre films away. If films like Gladiator, The Departed, and Lord of the Rings can be nominated and recognized, then TDK certainly deserves the same recognition.

TDK is easily the best comic genre film off all time and it is DEFINITELY one of the top 5 overall films of 2008.

The quality of the movie, it's direction, it's production, it's acting, along with it's critical and of course huge box office success speak for themselves!
so batman fans are promoting their movie?
hmmmmm looks like its like everytime a comicbook mvoie is realesed.

i think you all would have a bigger chance if the general public liked the movie................ohhh whait a minute..........THEY DID LOVE IT.

[DarkCampaign]

Hey guys, help me Digg this...
http://digg.com/movies/Should_The_Dark_Knight_be_nominated_for_Best_Pictu re_2

If we can get 100 votes we can get to the front page of Digg which is read by a lot of journalists.

[Dark Knight]

Awards Daily picked up the story!
http://www.awardsdaily.com/?p=4470
"The Dark Campaign - All Hail one of the Best of 2008"

This is amazing. I can't believe the response we're getting.



I'm trying to post on all the sites that are recognizing your campaign! :applaud

[Dark Knight]

I'm officially throwing my weight into the campaign. Enjoy. :woot:

http://fanartexhibit.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/oscars.jpg




Awesome! :hoboj:

[dark_b]

i think it will be interesting to read posts after the oscars. if TDK wins oscars will be very important . if TDK doesnt even get an nomination for best movie or director then i expect that fans wont care for the oscars.

critics love this movie and people around this world. its enough for me. but i hope for all of you that you will get your oscars. of course the batforum will explode.....but thats all part of the plan hehehhe.

[Dark Knight]

i think it will be interesting to read posts after the oscars. if TDK wins oscars will be very important . if TDK doesnt even get an nomination for best movie or director then i expect that fans wont care for the oscars.

critics love this movie and people around this world. its enough for me. but i hope for all of you that you will get your oscars. of course the batforum will explode.....but thats all part of the plan hehehhe.



Here is my predictions for the five Best Picture Nominations in no particular order:

1. Slumdog Millionaire
2. Curious Case of Benjamin Button
3. The Dark Knight
4. Revolutionary Road
5. Milk

[The Chris]

http://www.incontention.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/tdkensemble.jpg

[Paste Pot Pete]

It really, really deserves a SAG nom. You don't get better ensembles than that.

[byte19]

epic!!

[Spidey328]

CinemaBlend.com has pick up the story:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Fans-Kick-Off-The-Dark-Knight-s-Oscar-Campaign-11099.html

[DarkCampaign]

CinemaBlend.com has pick up the story:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Fans-Kick-Off-The-Dark-Knight-s-Oscar-Campaign-11099.htmlOh wow that's very very cool. Thanks for finding that!

In other news, The National Post newspaper picked up the story:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/theampersand/archive/2008/12/03/dark-campaign-the-dark-knight-gets-its-own-fan-driven-oscar-push.aspx

And Hollywood Hills is running a news story on it:
http://hwhills.com/

[DarkCampaign]

I think the next place we have to hit is Aint it Cool News. I know a lot of folks in the industry read that site. Send an email to harry@aintitcool.com and let him know they should do a story on the Dark Campaign!

[General Vulcun]

Congratualtions, DarkCampaign! Here's hoping your efforts produce an even bigger dent than what it has been able to do so far.

[WVsax27]

The Dark Knight made The National Board of Review's top 10(like last year they didn't list their best picture winner in the list, so they really had 11 again this year). They normally leave out at least one film that ends up being nominated for Best Picture, but they never listed any of the Lord of The Rings films in their top 10 so it can't hurt.

The top ten (in alphabetical order):
“Burn After Reading”
“Changeling”
“The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”
“The Dark Knight”
“Defiance”
“Frost/Nixon”
“Gran Torino”
“Milk”
“WALL-E”
“The Wrestler”

Best Film: SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE

The Dark Knight didn't win anything else.

http://www.awardsdaily.com/?p=4524#more-4524

[FlawlessVictory]

Oscar ‘Knight’? Batman’s hopes look stronger
As critics see last-minute contenders, action flick maintains strong buzz

LOS ANGELES - As the box-office bankroll climbed for “The Dark Knight” last summer, the Hollywood consensus was that a posthumous nomination for Heath Ledger was the Batman blockbuster’s best Academy Awards hope.

Now that critics have gotten a peek at all the last-minute Oscar contenders, “The Dark Knight” has emerged as a solid contender for best picture and best director for Christopher Nolan.

Web sites such as TheEnvelope.com and Awardsdaily.com rank Nolan and Ledger among key Oscar contenders and list “The Dark Knight” alongside best-picture possibilities such as Ron Howard’s “Frost/Nixon,” Gus Van Sant’s “Milk” and David Fincher’s “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.”

“Far be it for me to try and predict, and I think that anybody looks like a (jerk) if you really try to predict what people are going to vote for. But certainly, for me, I think that the serious contenders in this movie in my mind are Heath, Chris for director because he’s done an extraordinary job, and I do believe best picture, as well,” “Dark Knight” star Christian Bale said Wednesday night at a cocktail reception for the filmmakers and critics.

It’s unusual for an action flick to climb into the company of Hollywood’s year-end prestige pictures, with Oscar voters tending toward highbrow literary works rather than comic-book adaptations. Among the action films that made the best-picture cut at the Oscars were the three “Lord of the Rings” movies and “Raiders of the Lost Ark.”

But building on the critical and commercial success of 2005’s “Batman Begins,” the sequel elevated the superhero genre to a new high, with critics ranking “The Dark Knight” as one of the year’s best films.

“It is a genre movie, but I think it goes beyond it with the themes in this movie,” said “Dark Knight” co-star Aaron Eckhart. “It’s an important movie sociologically. I feel like in this day and age, with terrorism and with the cancers of the city and people trying to find a voice within their own city, this is an important film.

“But it’s a Batman film, so it has that going for it. It has that going against it.”

With about $1 billion in worldwide theatrical grosses, “The Dark Knight” arrives on home video Tuesday, two days before the Golden Globe nominations, where the movie could gain some Oscar momentum if it scores well there.

Ledger, who died in January of an accidental prescription drug overdose, is considered a likely supporting-actor nominee for his diabolical performance as Batman nemesis the Joker. Oscar nominations come out Jan. 22, the one-year anniversary of Ledger’s death.

“I’d like to think he would be very quietly proud of the fact that people really responded to it in the way he’d intended, were moved by the performance,” Nolan said. “As far as Heath goes, any and every validation of the success of his performance is a great source of pride to me and relief to me that I’ve done my end of getting his performance out there.”


© 2008 The Associated Press.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28055570/

[FCEEVIPER]

Fricken awesome!!! ^

[General Vulcun]

Great article, FlawlessVictory. I'm still a little shocked that the National Film Board of Review picked Brolin over Ledger, though.

[Figs]

I guess I've been out of the Oscar loop for awhile since we still have over a month before they announce anything.

I was wondering, how long ago did these people start this Darkcampaign website?

[DarkCampaign]

I guess I've been out of the Oscar loop for awhile since we still have over a month before they announce anything.

I was wondering, how long ago did these people start this Darkcampaign website?
Like a week ago but I didn't start promoting it at all until this Monday.

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

WOW...

that Dark Campaign website is really great... love the video! :word:

[DarthAlani]

The national board of review, just released thier winners. Slumdog Millionare won best picture. David Fincher for Button , and this just pissed me off royally. Josh Brolin won best supporting Actor for Milk. The NBR is considered are considered a good judge of how a film will do at the oscars. TDK did make the top 10 films of the year so thats a plus.

[DarthAlani]

Since 1968 the film the NBR picked as best film, went on to win the best picture oscar 29 times.

[DarkCampaign]

Josh Brolin for Milk? Really? I mean he was decent but not on the level of... :hoboj:

Anyhow hey guys don't forget to email harry@aintitcoolnews.com and ask them to do a write up on our campaign.

[DarthAlani]

Josh Brolin for Milk? Really? I mean he was decent but not on the level of... :hoboj:

Anyhow hey guys don't forget to email harry@aintitcoolnews.com and ask them to do a write up on our campaign. The liberal academy is jizzing in thier pants for milk.

[General Vulcun]

^ lol, I like how you used "jizzing" and "milk" in the same sentence.

[DarthAlani]

^ lol, I like how you used "jizzing" and "milk" in the same sentence. Indeed TDK will probaly get ignored for the sole reason of being a comic film.

[Sarge 2.0]

The liberal academy is jizzing in thier pants for milk.You're seriously the worst kind of person. :down

[Figs]

Indeed TDK will probaly get ignored for the sole reason of being a comic film.


Well that and I agree with what you said earlier about the liberals which Hollywood is full of.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Milk makes a sweep at the awards with the PC/Liberal ways of Hollywood. No one really seems to find it funny/strange that that one year when Sidney Poitier was given that lifetime award was also the same year Denzel won an Oscar as well as Halle Berry.

Although it was great that they honored Poitier and I think Denzel is a good actor...I don't think his performance in Training Day was award winning like some of his past nominations.

I hope TDK and Heath are at least nominated, I'm truly starting to think Milk will win bigtime.

[General Vulcun]

TDK doesn't need the win to make a difference. Even if it was as simple as Heath for Best Supporting Actor being TDK's only nomination, that would be more than enough for TDK to make a full impact on Hollywood.

I know it wont win the top prize, but if it does get the nomination, then that will be its reward.

[DarthAlani]

You're seriously the worst kind of person. :down :hoboj:

[DarthAlani]

Well that and I agree with what you said earlier about the liberals which Hollywood is full of.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Milk makes a sweep at the awards with the PC/Liberal ways of Hollywood. No one really seems to find it funny/strange that that one year when Sidney Poitier was given that lifetime award was also the same year Denzel won an Oscar as well as Halle Berry.

Although it was great that they honored Poitier and I think Denzel is a good actor...I don't think his performance in Training Day was award winning like some of his past nominations.

I hope TDK and Heath are at least nominated, I'm truly starting to think Milk will win bigtime. I agree 100% i don't sugarcoat anything. Milk or Slumdog millionare will sweep the oscars.

[The Riddler]

You're seriously the worst kind of person. :down
what's so wrong with what he said?

anyway, i have yet to see milk and i'll probably check it out but it looks pretty bland and formulaic.

[Boom]

What's the National Review Board's track record for accurately picking the Best Supporting Actor award?

[Anita18]

What's the National Review Board's track record for accurately picking the Best Supporting Actor award?
From what I've been reading around, it helps to win NBR more than it hurts to not win NBR.

...if that makes any sense....

Their acting awards can be all over the place though, apparently.

But this is only the first round. We'll have a better idea of actual Oscar chances as more year-end nomination lists fill up.

[Boom]

Maybe I'm just biased, but Ledger should be a lock for a Best Supporting Actor VICTORY, as far as I'm concerned.

[WVsax27]

The NBR doesn't have a good track record as of late for either supporting categories. Neither of their winners have gone on to win the Oscar the past few years. A win can help you, but not winning doesn't hurt you that much. It's a better judge of who could/will be nominated rather than who will win. The real win for TDK was making their top 10 list. It was also a big win for Wall-E

[General Vulcun]

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/oscar-predictions-take-three-all-top-eight-categories

A new look at the top categories from someone who's recently seen Benjamin Button, Doubt, Revolutionary Road, and The Reader.

[Robin91939]

^ ? [edit: to Robin]

Wall-E's a good film. In fact the first half of it is borderline classic cinema. But Disney will probably just put it up for best animation and be done with it.
Nah, I actually meant High School Musical 3 lol. I think that Disney is giving it a "Best Picture" Oscar push so that it will get recognition. It's obviously not going to have a prayer for best picture with the Academy, but the Golden Globes my take notice of it an nominate it for Best Picture Musical or Comedy, which in all likelihood, could happen.

The field's thin, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, which SHOULD win. High School Musical 3, Cadillac Records (if considered a musical like Walk the Line and Dream Girls Was, Pineapple Express, and Ghost Town are the contenders for Best Musical or Comedy of 2008.

But yeah, I think that Disney is pushing it with the Academy, because some of those voters, I believe, also vote on the Globes and they want that nomination and it's more realistic.

-R

[KalMart]

Dark Knight for Sound and Editing.

[bane]

TDK should win Best Cinematography, Dammit!

[Ace of Knaves]

I reckon Best Supporting Actor, Best Director and Best Cinematography are locks. Hard to predict anything else really.

[KalMart]

It was a bit of a slow year for other big critical hits.

[[A]]

^ which is something that'll always overshadow TDK's awards (if it gets any)

[KalMart]

Y'mean like with Braveheart and Gladiator? :oldrazz:

[[A]]

Oh I don't remember these years :o Were those years weak too?

[KalMart]

Depends on how you define strong.

http://www.filmsite.org/aa00.html

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0195023.html

[Fenrir]

TDK should win Best Cinematography, Dammit!

I think Benjamin Button has that one in the bag. I heard that film is beyond beautiful.

[The Mighty Wind]

The liberal academy is jizzing in thier pants for milk.
Just be thankful they aren't jizzing in your milk for pants.

[hatebox]

The liberal academy is jizzing in thier pants for milk.


Yeah, screw them for liking a critically acclaimed movie!

[bane]

I think Benjamin Button has that one in the bag. I heard that film is beyond beautiful.

Nope, from the trailers and tvspots i've seen it doesn't stand a chance against TDK, and seriously if the academy doesn't give Wally an award for a 3rd year in a row, the oscars are going to be a joke(i mean c'mon, Batman Forever got a oscar in the same category)!

[[A]]

^ :hehe: haha at first I went he meant wall·e right? :funny: :o

[Merkel]

Nope, from the trailers and tvspots i've seen it doesn't stand a chance against TDK, and seriously if the academy doesn't give Wally an award for a 3rd year in a row, the oscars are going to be a joke(i mean c'mon, Batman Forever got a oscar in the same category)!


Batman Forever was only nominated for Cinematography, the winner was John Tol for Braveheart. But Batman Forever really had a pretty great cinematography.

I still hope Wally gets it

[SuperZer0]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7058/darkknight2bi6.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6152/darkknight3tq8.jpg

[SuperZer0]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5505/darkknightqn6.jpg

[The Chris]

Dark Knight has some gorgeous FYC ads. Better than everyone else's honestly. They used the perfect image for one of the cinematography ads. Speaking of which, I still think for that nomination that it's all bets are off. Hell, Australia could very well win that and don't look past Revolutionary Road (which was shot by the master Roger Deakins (No Country, Assasination of Jesse James), and Dark Knight has some very striking images as well. Really striking. This could be an awesome category. I'm excited to see it.

[Anita18]

Dark Knight has some gorgeous FYC ads. Better than everyone else's honestly. They used the perfect image for one of the cinematography ads. Speaking of which, I still think for that nomination that it's all bets are off. Hell, Australia could very well win that and don't look past Revolutionary Road (which was shot by the master Roger Deakins (No Country, Assasination of Jesse James), and Dark Knight has some very striking images as well. Really striking. This could be an awesome category. I'm excited to see it.
They are beautiful FYC ads. The cinematography quote is so poetic it blows my mind.

They might give Wally the win considering the groundbreaking work with IMAX cameras. And the fact they've given him a nom but no win three times in a row. His peers sure respect him VERY highly...and they're the ones voting. :yay:

[Sentinel X]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5505/darkknightqn6.jpg:huh:...........:lmao:

Are they REALLY asking for a nomination for Maggie Gylenhaal!?
And Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Michael Cane???

I think Aaron Eckhart's performance was good but oscar worthy? Thats a stretch. The only oscar worthy performance in my opinion is Heath Ledger. Just asking for Maggie G. for concideration is just retarded.....waste of poster space :o

[Hunter Rider]

^^^ I'm pretty sure that is fan made.....

[[A]]

I thought it was weird they included a nod to the score--but then I thought it could've been done months ago, who knows

[Figs]

^^^ I'm pretty sure that is fan made.....


Are any of those Oscar push posters real?

I'm wondering if WB actually has some for the academy or were they all from fans jerking off?

[maveholic31]

http://fanartexhibit.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/my-support-for-the-dark-knights-oscar-bid/

whoever made this is brilliant :D

[maveholic31]

http://fanartexhibit.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/my-support-for-the-dark-knights-oscar-bid/

whoever made this is brilliant :D

[Anita18]

Are any of those Oscar push posters real?

I'm wondering if WB actually has some for the academy or were they all from fans jerking off?
WB bought quite a few pages from Variety for the FYC posters, but the ones I saw from that issue was the Best Supporting Actor and Best Picture ones.

[[A]]

http://fanartexhibit.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/my-support-for-the-dark-knights-oscar-bid/

whoever made this is brilliant :D

you don't visit this forum much, huh? :hehe:

[WVsax27]

Something to keep in mind for Globe nominations on Tuesday, they aren't afraid to be different. They like big stars and it wouldn't shock me to see a few "WTF" nominations

[Two-Face]

JMC's poster great one :up:

[8blades]

No, No No. Dark Knight does not deserve any oscars. Yes, the oscars are not what they used to be but...NO. The only Oscar contender is Heath and that is it. Maybe Directing...MAYBE. Definitely not Best Picture, because it was not a great movie. Definitely not Major Award material. Get real guys.

[Ace of Knaves]

No, No No. Dark Knight does not deserve any oscars. Yes, the oscars are not what they used to be but...NO. The only Oscar contender is Heath and that is it. Maybe Directing...MAYBE. Definitely not Best Picture, because it was not a great movie. Definitely not Major Award material. Get real guys.

HAHAHAHA you are the one who needs to get real son. Best Cinematography is an absolute lock, if i'm wrong then i'll eat my own foot.

lolz. You are either really, really incredibly stupid or you are just trying to wind people up.

"Get out wooden ead!"

[Schlosser85]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sean Penn gets the Best Actor Award for Milk. He's highly-regarded, been nominated before, and Milk is exactly the kind of liberal political "cause" movie the Academy loves. Australia was generally considered a disappointment, so if it gets nominated for anything it will probably be cinematography. Philip Seymour Hoffman and Meryl Streep may well be contenders for Doubt- both Oscar winners already, Streep obviously draws acclaim and awards like a magnet. Benjamin Button will almost certainly be nominated for Best Picture, and probably Best Adapted Screenplay and cinematography, and Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett may well be nominated. I think the only cast member from The Dark Knight with any realistic hope of being nominated is Heath Ledger. He is almost universally considered THE performance of the movie, of course there will be the sympathy vote (not that his performance needs anything to boost it), and none of the above likely candidates (Penn, Hoffman, Streep, Pitt, Blanchett) would be in the same category, if he's nominated for Best Supporting Actor as he should be.

Probably the next most likely nomination for The Dark Knight is Wally Pfister for cinematography, but Australia and Benjamin Button look to be beautifully filmed movies, so that might have some stiff competition.

[Great1]

No, No No. Dark Knight does not deserve any oscars. Yes, the oscars are not what they used to be but...NO. The only Oscar contender is Heath and that is it. Maybe Directing...MAYBE. Definitely not Best Picture, because it was not a great movie. Definitely not Major Award material. Get real guys.

This coming from the same guy who said that TDK isn't really a Batman movie :whatever:

[MiniBond]

I'm confused (and not very aware of this sort of thing): what are these posters for ???? The SAG awards, the Oscars ???,:huh::huh:

[Dark Knight]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sean Penn gets the Best Actor Award for Milk. He's highly-regarded, been nominated before, and Milk is exactly the kind of liberal political "cause" movie the Academy loves. Australia was generally considered a disappointment, so if it gets nominated for anything it will probably be cinematography. Philip Seymour Hoffman and Meryl Streep may well be contenders for Doubt- both Oscar winners already, Streep obviously draws acclaim and awards like a magnet. Benjamin Button will almost certainly be nominated for Best Picture, and probably Best Adapted Screenplay and cinematography, and Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett may well be nominated. I think the only cast member from The Dark Knight with any realistic hope of being nominated is Heath Ledger. He is almost universally considered THE performance of the movie, of course there will be the sympathy vote (not that his performance needs anything to boost it), and none of the above likely candidates (Penn, Hoffman, Streep, Pitt, Blanchett) would be in the same category, if he's nominated for Best Supporting Actor as he should be.

Probably the next most likely nomination for The Dark Knight is Wally Pfister for cinematography, but Australia and Benjamin Button look to be beautifully filmed movies, so that might have some stiff competition.


Ben Button is also a snooze fest of a movie....:sleepy:

If movies like Gladiator, The Departed, LOR:Return of the King, Silence of the Lambs can get nominated for Best Picture, then The Dark Knight certainly deserves a nomination for Best Picture and Nolan needs to be nominated for Best Director for the INCREDIBLE work he did with such a huge film and production. Anything less would be disrespectful to the filmmakers of TDK.

Chances are Milk will win Best Picture, because your right thats the type political biopic film the Academy tends to fall in love with. Penn will probably will win Best Actor as well.

[General Vulcun]

For those who are interested, Roger Ebert has picked his favorite films of the year. Instead of doing a top 10 list, though, he just picks his top 20 favorite films and lists them in alphabetical order.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081205/COMMENTARY/812059997/1023

[Sentinel X]

Ben Button is also a snooze fest of a movie....:sleepy:

If movies like Gladiator, The Departed, LOR:Return of the King, Silence of the Lambs can get nominated for Best Picture, then The Dark Knight certainly deserves a nomination for Best Picture and Nolan needs to be nominated for Best Director for the INCREDIBLE work he did with such a huge film and production. Anything less would be disrespectful to the filmmakers of TDK.

Chances are Milk will win Best Picture, because your right thats the type political biopic film the Academy tends to fall in love with. Penn will probably will win Best Actor as well.Do I spot a sly attack on Silence of the Lambs!?! :wow:
Cause I think SOTL>>>>>>>>>>>The Dark Knight

But using that logic...If Chicago can win Best Picture....just about ANYTHING can win best picture. No need to mention the others,lol!

[hatebox]

:huh:...........:lmao:

Are they REALLY asking for a nomination for Maggie Gylenhaal!?
And Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Michael Cane???

I think Aaron Eckhart's performance was good but oscar worthy? Thats a stretch. The only oscar worthy performance in my opinion is Heath Ledger. Just asking for Maggie G. for concideration is just retarded.....waste of poster space :o

Actually Gary Oldman's performance was at least as good as Ledger's, but it wasn't as showy so won't get a look in...

[DarkCampaign]

Check it out, Josh MC's poster made it to the top of Digg
http://www.darkcampaign.com/?p=119

[Drizzle]

Do I spot a sly attack on Silence of the Lambs!?! :wow:
Cause I think SOTL>>>>>>>>>>>The Dark Knight
I don't think he was attacking it at all.

[WVsax27]

I don't think he was attacking SOTL as much as he was pointing out films won best picture that don't fit the mold of what The Academy normally goes for.

Sigourney Weaver was nominated for Aliens...so there is even some history of them thinking outside the box is those categories also.

[jmc]

Sigourney Weaver was nominated for Aliens...so there is even some history of them thinking outside the box is those categories also.

People forget about examples like this, really there is no 'outside the box' as it were, it just rare that blockbuster movies are both directed and acted with the same level of depth as some multi-layered drama. Weaver getting a nod for Aliens is actually a good example of this, strong female lead in a mainstream film that just happened to be sci-fi based. It's a good comparison to Ledger.

[SuperZer0]

^^^ I'm pretty sure that is fan made.....

Nope, it's official. I found it in the Awards Daily FYC gallery:

http://awardsdaily.com/FYC/gallery/2008-09/photo.php?id=1242

[General Vulcun]

http://www.moviecitynews.com/

For those who don't know, go to this site once critics' top 10 lists start to pile in, and see where The Dark Knight ranks among the lot.

[Excel]

No, No No. Dark Knight does not deserve any oscars. Yes, the oscars are not what they used to be but...NO. The only Oscar contender is Heath and that is it. Maybe Directing...MAYBE. Definitely not Best Picture, because it was not a great movie. Definitely not Major Award material. Get real guys.

Depends. Its either gonna super heavy or not at all. Grosses and publicity defiently help, just look at lord of the rings, Gladiator, or Titanic. If I was a betting man, I d say it gets the following nominations, with wins in bold:

-Best Visual Effects (loses to Narnia)
-Best Sound Editing
-Best Sound Mixing
-Best Film Editing
-Best Cinematography (loses to Australia)
-Best Adapted Screenplay
-Best Supporting Actor
-Best Director
-Best Picture

7/9 for the no doubt film of the year on Oscars night.

[Excel]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sean Penn gets the Best Actor Award for Milk. He's highly-regarded, been nominated before, and Milk is exactly the kind of liberal political "cause" movie the Academy loves. Australia was generally considered a disappointment, so if it gets nominated for anything it will probably be cinematography. Philip Seymour Hoffman and Meryl Streep may well be contenders for Doubt- both Oscar winners already, Streep obviously draws acclaim and awards like a magnet. Benjamin Button will almost certainly be nominated for Best Picture, and probably Best Adapted Screenplay and cinematography, and Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett may well be nominated. I think the only cast member from The Dark Knight with any realistic hope of being nominated is Heath Ledger. He is almost universally considered THE performance of the movie, of course there will be the sympathy vote (not that his performance needs anything to boost it), and none of the above likely candidates (Penn, Hoffman, Streep, Pitt, Blanchett) would be in the same category, if he's nominated for Best Supporting Actor as he should be.

Probably the next most likely nomination for The Dark Knight is Wally Pfister for cinematography, but Australia and Benjamin Button look to be beautifully filmed movies, so that might have some stiff competition.

Agree with most of this, this is how I see it going:

Best Picture
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Dark Knight
Milk
Rachel Getting Married
Slumdog Millionaire

Best Direction
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (David Fincher)
The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan)
Milk (Gus van Sant)
Rachel Getting Married (Jonathan Demme)
The Wrestler (Darren Aronofsky)

Best Actor in a Leading Role
Richard Jenkins, The Visitor
Frank Langella, Frost/Nixon
Sean Penn, Milk
Brad Pitt, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Mickey Rourke, The Wrestler

Best Actress in a Leading Role
Anne Hathaway, Rachel Getting Married
Sally Hawkins, Happy-Go-Lucky
Angelina Jolie, Changeling
Meryl Streep, Doubt
Kate Winslet, Revolutionary Road

Best Actor in a Supporting Role
Josh Brolin, Milk
James Franco, Milk
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire

Best Actress in a Supporting Role
Penelope Cruz, Vicky Christina Barcelona
Viola Davis, Doubt
Rosemarie DeWitt, Rachel Getting Married
Taraji P. Henson, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Debra Winger, Rachel Getting Married

Best Adapted Screenplay
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (Eric Roth)
The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, Jonathan Nolan)
Doubt (John Patrick Stanley)
Frost/Nixon (Peter Morgan)
Slumdog Millionaire (Danny Boyle)

Best Original Screenplay
Happy-Go-Lucky (Mike Leigh)
Milk (Dustin Lance Black)
Rachel Getting Married (Jenny Lumet)
Vicky Christina Barcelona (Woody Allen)
The Visitor (Thomas McCarthy)

Best Art Direction
Australia
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Revolutionary Road
Valkyrie

Best Cinematography
Australia
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Dark Knight
Revolutionary Road
Slumdog Millionaire

Best Costume Design
Australia
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Doubt
The Duchess
Revolutionary Road

Best Film Editing
The Dark Knight
Frost/Nixon
Milk
Slumdog Millionaire
The Wrestler

Best Makeup
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Tropic Thunder

Best Original Score
Australia
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
The Reader
WALL-E

Best Original Song
"Down to Earth," WALL-E
"Jai Ho," Slumdog Millionaire
High School Musical 3
Who Else Knows?

Best Sound Mixing
Australia
The Dark Knight
Defiance
Iron Man
WALL-E

Best Sound Editing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Dark Knight
Defiance
Iron Man
WALL-E

Best Visual Effects
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Dark Knight
Iron Man

Animated Feature
Coraline
Kung Fu Panda
WALL-E

[Anita18]

Weaver getting a nod for Aliens is actually a good example of this, strong female lead in a mainstream film that just happened to be sci-fi based. It's a good comparison to Ledger.
I thought Ellen Ripley was the most kickass female lead EVER. I'm sad that whenever a woman has a lead in a mainstream film now, she has to be wearing tight clothing and be hot. No, Ripley was sheer badassery and that was awesome. :up:

Where did all that go? :csad:

[jmc]

I thought Ellen Ripley was the most kickass female lead EVER. I'm sad that whenever a woman has a lead in a mainstream film now, she has to be wearing tight clothing and be hot. No, Ripley was sheer badassery and that was awesome. :up:

Where did all that go? :csad:

So true, I've always though if they ever do a Wonder Woman film she should be based in part off a mix of Ripley and Sarah Conner.

[byte19]

Los Angeles (E! Online) – What was hot? Besides Anne Hathaway? The Dark Knight.

The great superhero hope did everything it had to do: It scored Satellite nods for Heath Ledger and director Christopher Nolan, and earned a Top 10 film mention from the National Board of Review. As an early reward, the still-playing blockbuster got a Jan. 23 "rerelease" date.

What's so special about Jan. 23? It comes after Jan. 22, also known as Oscar nomination day. Think Warner Bros. is expecting good news?

What was not, you know, hot? Besides Revolutionary Road, to name one high-profile pic ignored by the NBR? To name another high-profile pic: Australia.

The Hugh Jackman-Nicole Kidman epic scored nine Satellite nominations—more than any other film—but none for its stars, and none in any glamour category, unless screenplay counts, which it doesn't unless Diablo Cody's in the running. Worse, from the more credible NBR, the film got zip.

hmm......

[Anita18]

So true, I've always though if they ever do a Wonder Woman film she should be based in part off a mix of Ripley and Sarah Conner.
Sigh. That would be so cool. But I ain't holding my breath. :csad:

[Anita18]

Warner Bros.' tough balancing act for a Ledger Oscar campaign
The studio tries to tread the line between tribute and exploitation in rallying academy support for the late actor's maniacal performance as the Joker in 'The Dark Knight.'

By Rachel Abramowitz

December 6, 2008

How do you run an Oscar campaign for Heath Ledger, the widely admired young actor who died last January of an overdose of prescription drugs?

Very carefully, it seems, as Warner Bros., the studio behind "The Dark Knight," tries to tread the line between tribute and exploitation in rallying academy support for Ledger's performance as the maniacal, nihilistic Joker.

Oscar campaigning is serious business in Hollywood, as studios have been known to spend as much as $50 million in a quest for those golden statuettes. The mantra from Warner Bros. sources -- though no one will go on the record -- is that the studio is running a campaign for all members of the filmmaking team and all the actors. The film, which earned almost a billion dollars, was a critical darling.

But consider one Internet ad featuring Ledger in his ghoulish Joker outfit, with a shaded Christian Bale looming in the background in his Batman gear: The ad touts both actors, but it's clearly the white-faced Ledger whose Joker leer is front and center.

It is a near-consensus in Hollywood that Ledger is a shoo-in for an Oscar nomination for supporting actor and might even win, which would make the forever young Australian the only actor besides "Network's" Peter Finch to earn an acting Oscar posthumously. Still, he faces strong competition from other contenders, who could include Philip Seymour Hoffman ("Doubt") and Michael Shannon (for his breakout performance in "Revolutionary Road").

Already, Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences members say that if Ledger is nominated, his spectral presence could help reverse the ratings slide for the Academy Awards show as fans tune in to see if his riveting turn as the demonic Joker is honored.

Eleven months after Ledger's death at age 28, still not much is known about his final days or why he had ingested the six drugs the autopsy detected. Ledger apparently suffered from insomnia, and theories were floated through the Internet and the media that his ferocious commitment to the crazed Joker had taken an emotional toll on him. But, for the most part, Hollywood has succeeded with an improbable media blackout, with almost no real information (aside from a few unsourced quotes in tabloids) leaking out about Ledger's death.

The fascination with the actor has hardly abated, and interest will probably be juiced again when Warner Bros. releases "The Dark Knight" on DVD next week and stages another nationwide theatrical release of the movie Jan. 23 -- the day after the Oscar nominations are announced and the first anniversary of Ledger's death.

Forbes recently named Ledger the third highest-earning dead celebrity, after Elvis and "Peanuts" creator Charles Schulz, estimating that Ledger's estate will earn at least $20 million from "The Dark Knight" (his deal included a cut of the film and merchandising revenue).

In Australia, there's been an ongoing controversy over whether to name a new theater complex in Perth, Ledger's hometown, after the actor. Ledger's estate filed suit against the insurance company ReliaStar after the firm stalled on paying the actor's $10-million life insurance policy while it investigated whether the actor committed suicide. (The New York City medical examiner has ruled his death accidental.)

Warner Bros. was deft in its initial marketing push for "The Dark Knight," for the campaign neither hid Ledger's presence nor overly hyped it. (The family asked the studio not to take down any ads using Ledger's image in the aftermath of his death, according to one studio source.) In fact, word of mouth did most of the work as Ledger's creepy and brilliant tour de force caught the public's imagination. It's impossible to know how much his untimely death added to the studio's bottom line.

Running an Oscar campaign is even trickier, though, because there are more pointed questions of taste and propriety. Last summer, Terry Gilliam, Ledger's friend and the director of his final film, "The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus," complained to the Telegraph of London that such a campaign was inherently exploitative.

"They'll do anything to publicize their film," Gilliam said of the studio. "That's just what they do, and you can't get upset. . . . They're like a great white shark which devours whatever it can."

An Oscar consultant who represents other competitors and who declined to be named because of the sensitive nature of the Ledger situation said: "There is sadness to the situation, but you don't use it. It just exists."

One challenge to a full-fledged award campaign is Ledger's absence. Doing the screening-party circuit is usually a must for any would-be nominee, notes another competing Oscar strategist who also asked for anonymity: "One of the biggest challenges is, obviously, not having Heath. You don't have the person to be the face of the campaign."

This week, the studio threw a de rigueur Oscar fete at a swank Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills. Chocolate-covered strawberries and plates of fusilli swirled by as stars Christian Bale and Aaron Eckhart and director Christopher Nolan chatted with the crowd of journalists. "I miss Heath," said producer Charles Roven before telling a funny story about Ledger accessorizing his nurse outfit -- one of the Joker's disguises -- with a Harvey Dent campaign sticker he'd gotten from the film's Internet campaign. "He was such a fearless actor."

When the film was released in July, Nolan, various actors and Roven attended special question-and-answer sessions for the Screen Actors Guild, the Directors Guild of America and the Producers Guild of America. The studio is already conducting special academy screenings in regular format and Imax, and has offered to send the academy and guild members their screening copies in Blu-Ray if they prefer.

Still, the topic of Ledger is a sensitive one for Warner Bros., which refused to comment for this article. A publicist for Nolan said that he too would be unavailable.

But working in Ledger's favor is the fact that the academy is familiar with his work, having nominated him for 2005's "Brokeback Mountain."

One of "The Dark Knight's" primary Oscar rivals is "Slumdog Millionaire," a film that Warner Bros. initially bought the domestic rights for. After the conglomerate closed its art-house division Warner Independent Pictures last summer, it opted to split the rights with Fox Searchlight, which is now marketing and distributing the film. The $15-million Hindi-English movie tells the story of a slum kid from Mumbai who improbably ends up on the Indian version of the game show "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." "Slumdog Millionaire" has already begun to sweep the various critics' awards and appears destined for nominations, possibly including one for star Dev Patel, who would be a rival of Ledger in the supporting actor category.

As for "The Dark Knight's" Oscar prospects, rivals tend to be dismissive of Warner Bros.' hopes to turn it into the first Oscar-winning comic-book movie, in part because the demographic makeup of the 5,800-member academy skews older -- not the traditional superhero fan base. Said one, who also declined to be named given the contentiousness of the off-screen jockeying: "Until we wake up one day and we no longer are making any good movies -- dramas -- then the academy will not go this route, unless it's outrageously different . . . . This picture is not so different from the first one. It's still the Batman story. He wears a hat with ears, a cape that can fly." (Note from me: :down :down :down )

It's hard to imagine Oscar nominations adding even more lucre to "The Dark Knight's" box-office bonanza. The entity that would probably benefit the most from some Ledger fairy dust is the academy itself.

History has shown that Oscar TV viewership is related to the popularity of the nominees, reaching a high of 55.3 million viewers in 1998 when "Titanic" swept the awards. Last year was the smallest audience in Oscar history, with only 32 million viewers tuning in to watch the arty "No Country for Old Men" win top honors. This year, the academy is making a push to broaden the show's appeal by showing snippets of box-office hits during the broadcast, whether nominated or not.

The academy also ended the ban on commercials for upcoming movies, with the hope of creating a Super Bowl-type climate in which splashy ads generate almost as much buzz as the show.

Over the years, a number of actors have been nominated after death, among them Spencer Tracy, Ralph Richardson and James Dean, who was recognized for both "East of Eden" and "Giant." The last actor to be nominated for a posthumous Oscar was Massimo Troisi, who died after the filming of "Il Postino" in 1994. Yet the campaign was different, because Troisi, who had specifically delayed a heart operation in order to complete the film, was unknown to U.S. audiences. "A key part of the publicity campaign was introducing American audiences to Massimo," recalls 42West publicist Cynthia Swartz, who worked on the campaign. "Everything we did was a celebration of what he accomplished."

Clearly, celebration will also be the leitmotif of the Batman filmmakers as they invariably field questions about Ledger during Oscar season. When asked about a possible Oscar for Ledger, director Nolan recently told The Times' Geoff Boucher: "The thing that has always been important to me in light of Heath's death is the responsibility I've felt to his work. . . . It's easy to forget, with everything that has happened, what an enormous challenge it was for Heath to take on this iconic role. He rose to that challenge so admirably that any expression of people being moved or excited by his performance is a wonderful thing."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-heath6-2008dec06,0,2660398.story

[$klaary]

Heath Ledger, 'The Dark Knight'
'Knight' finds its menace with a riveting Joker
By KRISTOPHER TAPLEY


When Aaron Eckhart found himself strapped to a hospital bed for a pivotal scene opposite Heath Ledger in "The Dark Knight," the actor didn't know what to expect.

The two had not rehearsed the scene in character, but Eckhart heard that Ledger was raising the bar with his performance as Batman's infamous nemesis the Joker.

"It was a fun day working for me," says Eckhart. "Heath, out of the box, doing his thing. I felt like he was in such command that I could say anything to him in character and he would come right back with something funnier, better. As an actor, you can't ask for anything more.

"For Heath to give completely of himself, to open himself up, to be so vulnerable and to take such risks with the character just freed everyone in the room."

Producer Charles Roven already had a working relationship with Ledger, who died in January from an accidental overdose of prescription medication. The two collaborated on Terry Gilliam's "The Brothers Grimm" in 2005.

Roven says Ledger was looking for something different after the two-year hiatus that followed his work in "Brokeback Mountain."

"He was always part of a very short list of guys we had talked about, but so many things were wonderful surprises," Roven says. "When we heard his voice, when we see his tongue flick, when he does that thing with his hair when he sees Rachel. The thing about this performance is it really pulls you in. You know this character is deeply disturbed, but you want to spend time with him."

Regarding that flick of the actor's tongue, like some wicked clown serpent, Roven says Ledger researched what it would be like if someone had his mouth cut like the Joker's horrific scarring suggests. In some cases, Ledger told Roven, a person might run the tongue along the wound. So the actor built that defining physical attribute into the character.

Ledger was never able to see his finished performance, though Christopher Nolan did show him the film's introductory scene, featuring a Joker-masterminded bank heist. For Roven, the portrayal lives on in the film's popular and critical reception and, indeed, the awards chatter the late actor's work has ignited throughout the year.

"He had the greatest sense of humor," Roven says. "He always brought so much fun to the set with him, and I know he's happy right now, knowing that whatever happens, his work will go down in history as one of the truly great villain performances."

Editor's note If Ledger is nominated for "The Dark Knight," it will be his second Oscar nom. He received one in 2006 for "Brokeback Mountain."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117996892.html?categoryId=1995&cs=1

[Whoa]

This movie wont win best picture or director. These two were just nominated as mercy nominations so that the fan boys wont go killing every single oscar voter since you guys were all out for blood if it did not get one nomination. But at least give this movie realistic nominations like sound or one of the best supporting actors> the oscar guys are more then likely now like ah The Dark Knight got nominated our work here is done & it just wont win. Unless the WB pays them to win the award

[FlawlessVictory]

As for "The Dark Knight's" Oscar prospects, rivals tend to be dismissive of Warner Bros.' hopes to turn it into the first Oscar-winning comic-book movie, in part because the demographic makeup of the 5,800-member academy skews older -- not the traditional superhero fan base. Said one, who also declined to be named given the contentiousness of the off-screen jockeying: "Until we wake up one day and we no longer are making any good movies -- dramas -- then the academy will not go this route, unless it's outrageously different . . . . This picture is not so different from the first one. It's still the Batman story. He wears a hat with ears, a cape that can fly."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-heath6-2008dec06,0,2660398.story

It's with this mindset that I think it will ultimately be a miracle if TDK gets nominated for Best Picture. In the end, I expect it to be:

Milk
Slumdog Millionaire
Frost/Nixon
Revolutionary Road
Doubt or The Reader

[hatebox]

^ Early buzz for Rev Road and The Reader hasn't been too great.

[JL Unlimited]

^^^

Buzz on Frost/Nixon and Doubt also have been good but not great with critics more impressed with the acting than the film itself.

[JL Unlimited]

For those who are interested, Roger Ebert has picked his favorite films of the year. Instead of doing a top 10 list, though, he just picks his top 20 favorite films and lists them in alphabetical order.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081205/COMMENTARY/812059997/1023


Hmmm...interesting that heavy Oscar favorite The Curious Case of Benjamin Button isn't on Ebert's top 20 list.

[[A]]

I think Milk's gonna run big

[Sentinel X]

Actually Gary Oldman's performance was at least as good as Ledger's, but it wasn't as showy so won't get a look in...No. I don't think anyone's performance in TDK was near Heath's. When I think of an oscar worthy performance I think of the entire package....the acting, the difficulty, and how interesting the charecter is itself. Although Oldman gave a good performance and he is a really good actor, I think a lot of actor's could easily have done a job just as good if not better.

I don't think he was attacking it at all.I know...its called hyperbole :cwink:

I think Milk's gonna run bigYeah me too, it just looks like the typical oscar film! But every now and then the oscar's nominate a film that isn't so "typical" ala Star Wars, Silence of the Lambs, Lord of the Rings, etc....Im just hoping they're willing to do the same with The Dark Knight.

Milk does look like a good movie though! Frost/Nixon looks SUPER boring though! :sleepy:

[hatebox]

No. I don't think anyone's performance in TDK was near Heath's. When I think of an oscar worthy performance I think of the entire package....the acting, the difficulty, and how interesting the charecter is itself. Although Oldman gave a good performance and he is a really good actor, I think a lot of actor's could easily have done a job just as good if not better.

Completely disagree, I'd say Oldman inhabited Gordon flawlessly and at least as well as Ledger did the Joker. That Gordon's character is surrounded by all these massive personalities and still shines is testament to how well Oldman pulled off what could have so easily become a wallpaper role under a lesser talent. It was a masterclass in the 'less is more' approach to acting. I think to say 'a lot of actors' could have pulled it off even better is to miss just how well he did it.

It should go without saying that I think both Ledger and Oldman were brilliant, of course. Perhaps, given that they're playing such wildly different characters, it's a little redundant to compare them side by side anyway.

[jmc]

Oldman was Gordon as far a I'm concerned, I watch both films and in both I don't see Gary Oldman.

[KalMart]

I was glad that the Gordon role finally got a chance to really expand and shine, along with the actor playing him. When you look at Year One and DKR, for example, you see just how vital Gordon is to what Batman is, and how the story is also about his struggle. Oldman was good in BB, but along with everything else, he/Gordon took a big step up in TDK...and in regards to Gary Oldman.... everyone knows he's a good actor, but I haven't liked the more eccentric/charicature roles he's played as much. Maybe because of the movies, but I've found him to be a very intriguing actor when he plays more 'normal' or 'stable' roles. He almost has a Robert Duvall quality when he does those...not too much, not too little...just fits right in, and it's refreshing.

And it's even funnier that's he's a bit of a nut in real life. :oldrazz:

[BatSpider]

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org-oscar-knight-batman-rises-serious-contender-ap

good read about TDK being a contender :hoboj:

[Anita18]

It's with this mindset that I think it will ultimately be a miracle if TDK gets nominated for Best Picture. In the end, I expect it to be:

Milk
Slumdog Millionaire
Frost/Nixon
Revolutionary Road
Doubt or The Reader
I kind of agree, but at the same time, there's SO much talk about TDK being an Oscar contender that it will be a shock if it isn't on the list. There will likely be some AMPAS backlash by the mainstream media if that occurs. It's like they're willing it to happen. If TDK gets a Best Picture nom - it's something to talk about. First comic book/superhero film EVER to be nominated. The $500+ million juggernaut is getting serious film awards. If it isn't nominated, then it'll be the yawn-inducing same-old same-old stuff involving films that nobody saw.

and in regards to Gary Oldman.... everyone knows he's a good actor, but I haven't liked the more eccentric/charicature roles he's played as much. Maybe because of the movies, but I've found him to be a very intriguing actor when he plays more 'normal' or 'stable' roles. He almost has a Robert Duvall quality when he does those...not too much, not too little...just fits right in, and it's refreshing.
What's really awesome about Oldman's Gordon is that Oldman has usually played very dramatic, flamboyant, scene-chewing villains. And Gordon is just so understated in comparison, and Oldman inhabits the character so well.

[KalMart]

I kind of agree, but at the same time, there's SO much talk about TDK being an Oscar contender that it will be a shock if it isn't on the list. There will likely be some AMPAS backlash by the mainstream media if that occurs. It's like they're willing it to happen. If TDK gets a Best Picture nom - it's something to talk about. First comic book/superhero film EVER to be nominated. The $500+ million juggernaut is getting serious film awards. If it isn't nominated, then it'll be the yawn-inducing same-old same-old stuff involving films that nobody saw.
If TDK doesn't get a lot of key oscar noms, I don't really see any 'backlash' being noteworthy, except from perhaps a comic community. I do think Ledger deserves at least consideration for his portrayal, death or no death.

What's really awesome about Oldman's Gordon is that Oldman has usually played very dramatic, flamboyant, scene-chewing villains. And Gordon is just so understated in comparison, and Oldman inhabits the character so well.

That's....kinda' what I said, no? :cwink:

[Anita18]

That's....kinda' what I said, no? :cwink:
Then I'm just agreeing with you. :oldrazz:

[scifiwolf]

Yahoo! has put the story front-and-center on their homepage.

[BatSpider]

Yahoo! has put the story front-and-center on their homepage.
Hail Redskins :woot:

[KalMart]

Giants, baby.

[Doctor Jones]

The article on the last page with the dude saying it's still a Batman film who wears a cape and a mask with pointy ears is full of ****.

I hate the fact that everyone ignores a great film because it's based off of a comic book. How the hell would they know? Comic books today are getting more mature than they were 40 years ago. Why don't they actually pick up a comic book like Watchmen and realize that it's not kid's play anymore?

[scifiwolf]

Hail Redskins:DWhere abouts in VA are you? I just moved to Raleigh, NC, but before that I was living in Loudoun County.

Giants, baby.
I really like the Giants. I've always looked at them like the Redskins' brother up north. I'd love to see them get to the Super Bowl again this year, although I am pulling for the Jets to go all the way. Not so much the whole team, but Favre.

[The Chris]

It's with this mindset that I think it will ultimately be a miracle if TDK gets nominated for Best Picture. In the end, I expect it to be:

Milk
Slumdog Millionaire
Frost/Nixon
Revolutionary Road
Doubt or The Reader

It's just a horrible mindset. Mindsets like these don't belong in a business like film. It's just disheartening, and downright unintelligent. Yeah, lets nominate some underserving fare because a true great one's main character wears a bat suit. If you are able to take a movie with with short shoeless hobbits, ugly orces and whose main villain is an eye (though I love the LOTR trilogy) and give it the accolades it deserves, than don't tell me "oh this movie has a guy wearing bat ears, forget it" I say the hell with that and stop being so darn close minded.

[jmc]

I kind of agree, but at the same time, there's SO much talk about TDK being an Oscar contender that it will be a shock if it isn't on the list. There will likely be some AMPAS backlash by the mainstream media if that occurs. It's like they're willing it to happen. If TDK gets a Best Picture nom - it's something to talk about. First comic book/superhero film EVER to be nominated. The $500+ million juggernaut is getting serious film awards. If it isn't nominated, then it'll be the yawn-inducing same-old same-old stuff involving films that nobody saw.



I don't know about a mainstream media backlash, but there will but a public backlash, people won't tune in if the films nominated are films only 5% of cinemas goers saw. The Oscars of recent years have rated poorly, because as you say they nominate films that nobody has seen (this is more the studios' fault than The Academy, it's not the Academy's job to promote the films to the general public). I guarantee that if TDK is nominated for big awards, ratings will go through the roof, could even be record ratings coz looking at the list of potential nominees none of them are gonna even be remotely embraced by the general public.

[The Riddler]

the dark knight might not get nominated for best picture, but it should.

not only on the merits of the film, but they would also be smart to do so because people are already looking at the academy awards as being irrelevant and out of touch. without the dark knight, ratings for the show would be as bad as last year's.

[jmc]

It's just a horrible mindset. Mindsets like these don't belong in a business like film. It's just disheartening, and downright unintelligent. Yeah, lets nominate some underserving fare because a true great one's main character wears a bat suit. If you are able to take a movie with with short shoeless hobbits, ugly orces and whose main villain is an eye (though I love the LOTR trilogy) and give it the accolades it deserves, than don't tell me "oh this movie has a guy wearing bat ears, forget it"; I say the hell with that and stop being so darn close minded.

You know what, if you were to remove the cape, cowl, clown make up and CGI burns, this wouldn't even be an issue, TDK would already be a lock for a nomination. "But it's a superhero movie" is the weakest excuse to ignore a film that clearly redefined how to make a blockbuster movie. But TDK reach a new audience, one of the most diverse and truly I believe that will filter down to Acadmey members as well.

[The Chris]

You know what, if you were to remove the cape, cowl, clown make up and CGI burns, this wouldn't even be an issue, TDK would already be a lock for a nomination. "But it's a superhero movie" is the weakest excuse to ignore a film that clearly redefined how to make a blockbuster movie. But TDK reach a new audience, one of the most diverse and truly I believe that will filter down to Acadmey members as well.

And the funny thing for me is that for a superhero movie, the darn thing broke almost every single cliche you'd expect from a superhero film. It's structured much more like a crime drama than a superhero film, especially the huge game changing breaking point that always seems to especially happen in crime dramas around the 90 min point (Like Heat and The Departed)

[TDKfanatic]

You know what, if you were to remove the cape, cowl, clown make up and CGI burns, this wouldn't even be an issue, TDK would already be a lock for a nomination. "But it's a superhero movie" is the weakest excuse to ignore a film that clearly redefined how to make a blockbuster movie. But TDK reach a new audience, one of the most diverse and truly I believe that will filter down to Acadmey members as well.

You are dead right about that. I truly hope it will be recognised for the great film that it is regardless of genre.

[jmc]

And the funny thing for me is that for a superhero movie, the darn thing broke almost every single cliche you'd expect from a superhero film. It's structured much more like a crime drama than a superhero film, especially the huge game changing breaking point that always seems to especially happen in crime dramas around the 90 min point (Like Heat and The Departed)

That's the thing, it didn't feel like a superhero film, there was no nudge-nudge, wink-wink to the audience, it pretty much did everything you're not suppose to do and what happened? Movie goers and critics lapped it up.

[SuperZer0]

My support for Heath for the upcoming Oscars...

http://e.imagehost.org/0215/oscars-joker.jpg

(Jokerized statue courtesy of JMC)

[byte19]

another epic win!! they have got to start using these!!!!!!

[DarthAlani]

TDK is the best movie of the year. Liberal Hollywood needs to accept this.

[Anita18]

I don't know about a mainstream media backlash, but there will but a public backlash, people won't tune in if the films nominated are films only 5% of cinemas goers saw. The Oscars of recent years have rated poorly, because as you say they nominate films that nobody has seen (this is more the studios' fault than The Academy, it's not the Academy's job to promote the films to the general public). I guarantee that if TDK is nominated for big awards, ratings will go through the roof, could even be record ratings coz looking at the list of potential nominees none of them are gonna even be remotely embraced by the general public.
I don't think the general public reeeeaaally cares all that much about the Oscars, LOL. If TDK is snubbed, I figure that most people would be like, "Eh. Oh well, you know the Academy...." And then not watch the Oscar ceremony, since it's full of films they've never seen. :funny:

But the media has been building up to it, so they'd pull the more dramatic hissy fit. That's what they're good at. :cwink:

Well, WE'D pull off the most dramatic hissy fit. Then the mainstream media. :hehe:

[Anita18]

And the funny thing for me is that for a superhero movie, the darn thing broke almost every single cliche you'd expect from a superhero film.
You're right about it having more of a crime drama feel, but I don't think it actually "broke" superhero movie cliches. Like, I had a list of things I couldn't believe WB let Nolan get away with on TDK (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=309033), involving pushing the darkness on a big summer tentpole film and not following the superhero movie formula. But looking back on it now, almost every item on that list involved superhero cliches, just turned on their heads.


Pencil trick was an exaggerated version of a villain's introduction. Like in IM, when you saw that bald Middle-Eastern guy with the scalp tattoo, fingering his ring. That automatically says "bad guy." Joker's version was the magic trick. :hehe:
The villain captures the love interest and baits the hero with her. Happens in pretty much almost every superhero movie. The only difference is that the hero couldn't save her in TDK.
Ordinary citizens help out the hero, like in SM1 and 2 (haven't seen 3...). Except in TDK, they indirectly do so in proving the Joker wrong. They're really trying to save themselves, and they have no idea if the hero will come to their rescue.
Villains usually have a backstory, and the Joker makes up a few in TDK to appease that cliche. :hehe:
No lair for Joker where he muses about devious plans, but he does invite the audience to more intimate moments by filming his threats himself and using one other hostage to do so.
No traditional suiting-up scene, but there are a few subtle ones. On top of the HK skyscraper, he puts his mask on, but is otherwise dressed as Batman.Also, when Bruce goes into the elevator to get his Lambo and rescue Reese, he buttons up his suit jacket very quickly. :yay:


So there are some nudge-nudge wink-wink moments, but those just involve the usual cliches, not the film's world. :cwink:

[jmc]

You're right about it having more of a crime drama feel, but I don't think it actually "broke" superhero movie cliches. Like, I had a list of things I couldn't believe WB let Nolan get away with on TDK (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=309033), involving pushing the darkness on a big summer tentpole film and not following the superhero movie formula. But looking back on it now, almost every item on that list involved superhero cliches, just turned on their heads.


Pencil trick was an exaggerated version of a villain's introduction. Like in IM, when you saw that bald Middle-Eastern guy with the scalp tattoo, fingering his ring. That automatically says "bad guy." Joker's version was the magic trick. :hehe:
The villain captures the love interest and baits the hero with her. Happens in pretty much almost every superhero movie. The only difference is that the hero couldn't save her in TDK.
Ordinary citizens help out the hero, like in SM1 and 2 (haven't seen 3...). Except in TDK, they indirectly do so in proving the Joker wrong. They're really trying to save themselves, and they have no idea if the hero will come to their rescue.
Villains usually have a backstory, and the Joker makes up a few in TDK to appease that cliche. :hehe:
No lair for Joker where he muses about devious plans, but he does invite the audience to more intimate moments by filming his threats himself and using one other hostage to do so.
No traditional suiting-up scene, but there are a few subtle ones. On top of the HK skyscraper, he puts his mask on, but is otherwise dressed as Batman.Also, when Bruce goes into the elevator to get his Lambo and rescue Reese, he buttons up his suit jacket very quickly. :yay:


So there are some nudge-nudge wink-wink moments, but those just involve the usual cliches, not the film's world. :cwink:

That's probably the most ballsy thing that they did, kill the damsel in distress off, killing off the love interest in blockbuster movies is almost unheard of.

[[A]]

You could've just quote that one sentence.. Um, I mean, yeah :hehe:

[jmc]

You could've just quote that one sentence.. Um, I mean, yeah :hehe:

What can I say? Anita writes such wonderful posts, who wouldn't want to see it all again? :woot:

[Anita18]

What can I say? Anita writes such wonderful posts, who wouldn't want to see it all again? :woot:
I feel so loved. :heart:

[Anita18]

What can I say? Anita writes such wonderful posts, who wouldn't want to see it all again? :woot:
Ooh I thought of another cliche they use and change a little bit. The hero's voiceover at the end, talking about his sacrifice and how heroic he must choose to be. Think SM1, Tom Jane Punisher....that's all I can think of right now. But instead of the hero doing the voiceover, it's someone else doing it for him. And he uses the hero's known nickname instead. :oldrazz: Well, in the film he makes it up, but anyway.

[Doctor Jones]

Interesting, I know this is off topic, but I was watching AMC last night and it looks like Batman Begins will broadcast on the channel. The footage is shown during the "Long Live Cool" montage. It showed Falcone saying, "What the hell are you?" and then it cut to Bats saying, "I'm Batman."

[JL Unlimited]

'Dark Knight' flexes its wings as the awards season begins

Warner Bros pushes claims of Batman blockbuster for Golden Globes and Oscars


By Stephen Foley in New York
Sunday, 7 December 2008
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The Dark Knight, Christopher Nolan's gruelling Batman blockbuster, will return to the big screen next month as part of the painstakingly choreographed behind-the-scenes campaign to have the film laden with Oscars.


With the late Heath Ledger already regarded as a shoo-in for a best supporting actor nomination for his film-stealing performance as the Joker, there is a growing buzz that the picture and its director could also be in contention for top awards. Warner Bros is planning to re-release the film the day after nominations are announced, 22 January, the first anniversary of Ledger's death from an accidental overdose of prescription drugs.


Already, the studio is spending millions of dollars on events and marketing to promote The Dark Knight's chances of becoming the first comic-book spin-off to take home the Academy Award for Best Picture. It is all part of the annual dance designed to woo judges as the awards season gets into full swing. Nominations are due this week for the Golden Globes, traditionally the first signs of momentum for the stand-out films of the past year.


The Dark Knight – which infused the traditional comic-book genre with more portentous discussions of urban amorality – has emerged as an unlikely contender for best picture, beside more traditional arthouse films such as The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Gus Van Sant's Milk and Frost/Nixon, the movie-of-the-play-of-the-interviews that was released in the US this weekend. The Film 4-funded Slumdog Millionaire, which explores the extremes of poverty and wealth in Mumbai, is also generating buzz.


For Slumdog Millionaire, whose success has been given new piquancy since the terror attacks in the city, and The Dark Knight, whose tortured star's death continues to generate conspiracy theories on the internet, the pursuit of awards requires sensitivity – but pursuit there must be.
Warner Bros hosted a lavish cocktail reception for stars and critics last week, where attendees made their Oscar pitch feverishly. "Far be it for me to try to predict, and I think that anybody looks like a jerk if you really try to predict what people are going to vote for," said Christian Bale who plays Batman. "But certainly, for me, I think that the serious contenders in this movie in my mind are Heath, Chris for director, because he's done an extraordinary job, and I do believe best picture, as well."


Hanging in the air this year is a sense that the Academy will want to sprinkle the ceremony with some blockbuster power. The 2008 ceremony, dominated by the duel between No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood, both in the worthy-but-bleak category, attracted the smallest TV audience ever.


There will, however, be no shortage of star names up for awards. Potential best actor and actress winners include Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet for Revolutionary Road, Brad Pitt for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and Angelina Jolie for Changeling.


www.independent.co.uk (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/dark-knight-flexes-its-wings-as-the-awards-season-begins-1055703.html)

[scifiwolf]

Interesting, I know this is off topic, but I was watching AMC last night and it looks like Batman Begins will broadcast on the channel. The footage is shown during the "Long Live Cool" montage. It showed Falcone saying, "What the hell are you?" and then it cut to Bats saying, "I'm Batman."AMC is also showing Catwoman and Star Trek: Nemesis.

[Sarge 2.0]

TDK is the best movie of the year. Liberal Hollywood needs to accept this.What is your obsession with calling out "liberal hollywood"? It's not like TDK was a champion of conservatism. :whatever:

And I doubt that you've seen enough movies this year to make that claim. In fact I saw "Milk" last night and it was a better film than TDK.

[DarthAlani]

What is your obsession with calling out "liberal hollywood"? It's not like TDK was a champion of conservatism. :whatever:

And I doubt that you've seen enough movies this year to make that claim. In fact I saw "Milk" last night and it was a better film than TDK. That is your opinion.

[Sarge 2.0]

That is your opinion.Have you seen it?

[DarthAlani]

Have you seen it? I don't want to see it. I don't like Sean Penn

[Sarge 2.0]

You're depriving yourself of a truly beautiful movie then. Sean Penn is an excellent actor that knows how to step in to the very soul of another human being rather than just do impersonations.

[Lasirius]

You're depriving yourself of a truly beautiful movie then. Sean Penn is an excellent actor that knows how to step in to the very soul of another human being rather than just do impersonations.

True. Just saw this film last night and it is truly remarkable. Apart from the great story, all of the actors involved gave out superb performances.

[RachelDawes]

You're right about it having more of a crime drama feel, but I don't think it actually "broke" superhero movie cliches. Like, I had a list of things I couldn't believe WB let Nolan get away with on TDK (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=309033), involving pushing the darkness on a big summer tentpole film and not following the superhero movie formula. But looking back on it now, almost every item on that list involved superhero cliches, just turned on their heads.


Pencil trick was an exaggerated version of a villain's introduction. Like in IM, when you saw that bald Middle-Eastern guy with the scalp tattoo, fingering his ring. That automatically says "bad guy." Joker's version was the magic trick. :hehe:
The villain captures the love interest and baits the hero with her. Happens in pretty much almost every superhero movie. The only difference is that the hero couldn't save her in TDK.
Ordinary citizens help out the hero, like in SM1 and 2 (haven't seen 3...). Except in TDK, they indirectly do so in proving the Joker wrong. They're really trying to save themselves, and they have no idea if the hero will come to their rescue.
Villains usually have a backstory, and the Joker makes up a few in TDK to appease that cliche. :hehe:
No lair for Joker where he muses about devious plans, but he does invite the audience to more intimate moments by filming his threats himself and using one other hostage to do so.
No traditional suiting-up scene, but there are a few subtle ones. On top of the HK skyscraper, he puts his mask on, but is otherwise dressed as Batman.Also, when Bruce goes into the elevator to get his Lambo and rescue Reese, he buttons up his suit jacket very quickly. :yay:


So there are some nudge-nudge wink-wink moments, but those just involve the usual cliches, not the film's world. :cwink:

I really loved how realistic that part was. Batman's just an ordinary lone vigilante in a city of millions, so people don't expect him to automatically turn up and save them when they gt into trouble. It was great how everyday Gothamites stepped up to the plate in TDK.

[Doctor Jones]

AMC is also showing Catwoman and Star Trek: Nemesis.

So? :huh:

[RachelDawes]

AMC is also showing Catwoman and Star Trek: Nemesis.

They know the name of their station is American Movie Classics, right?

[Cousin Itt]

They know the name of their station is American Movie Classics, right?

Think they changed it to American Movie Channel.

[Twin723]

What is your obsession with calling out "liberal hollywood"? It's not like TDK was a champion of conservatism. :whatever:

And I doubt that you've seen enough movies this year to make that claim. In fact I saw "Milk" last night and it was a better film than TDK.


Milk was not better than The Dark Knight. It was just another conventional political film with a great performance by Penn..

[NickyTea]

Milk was not better than The Dark Knight. It was just another conventional political film with a great performance by Penn..


I liked Penn in "All the King's Men", so I'll definitely be seeing it. Plus, Speed Racer is in it.

[Sarge 2.0]

Milk was not better than The Dark Knight. It was just another conventional political film with a great performance by Penn..Did you even see the film? :whatever:

It was barely a political movie, it was a film about the human soul.

[Ace of Knaves]

Sean Penn's best ever performance was in Casualties of War IMO.

[KalMart]

Think they changed it to American Movie Channel.

They oughtta call it FUTT....as in F-U-Ted-Turner.

[Doctor Jones]

Did you even see the film? :whatever:

It was barely a political movie, it was a film about the human soul.

Well, I would most likely favor TDK over any of the other films I could see like Milk or Slumdog. Because well, I'm a Batman fan. Of course I'll like it more. This is a Batman board, you'll expect people favor TDK more around here. It's fine with what you think that's your opinion.

[Anita18]

Not exactly TDK's competition (and apparently it's ineligible for the Oscar documentary shortlist for some reason), but I just caught Dear Zachary on MSNBC and it's officially the most devastating film I've ever seen. I've never cried so much watching a movie. I actually welcomed the commercial breaks, since they gave me a reprieve from the emotional pounding.

I think what's most devastating about it is that it actually happened in real life, and I didn't know about the case beforehand. :csad:

[DarthAlani]

You're depriving yourself of a truly beautiful movie then. Sean Penn is an excellent actor that knows how to step in to the very soul of another human being rather than just do impersonations. Good, i agree he is a good actor. He needs to stick to that and quit running his igonorant mouth

[LetsTalk]

Heath Ledger has won his first award for "The Dark Knight" from the Australian Film Institute. News here: http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/news/5948/heath-ledger-wins-first-the-dark-knight-award-from-australian-film-institute

[jmc]

Yeah, I watched that, quite an emotional moment when his family accepted the award on his behalf, if he wins the Oscar I'm guaranteeing there won't be a dry eye in the house.

[jmc]

Here's video of Heath's win.

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[Twin723]

Did you even see the film? :whatever:

It was barely a political movie, it was a film about the human soul.


Yeah I saw the film. It was highly overrated. Nothing special at all..

[Kargo Warrior]

Another win for Heath!!

The Washington D.C. Area Film Critics

Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger (The Dark Knight)

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/dc-critics-vote-slumdog-big-and-give-nod-to-ledger

[Sarge 2.0]

I have no doubt Heath will win any award for which he is nominated. No performance this year was as incredible as his as far as supporting actors go.

[Paste Pot Pete]

What I find troubling about awards season are the predictions/expectations that arise before anyone has even seen the movie in question.

For example, something like Body of Lies was generating buzz based soley on its DiCaprio/Crowe/Scott trifecta. Then it turned out to be a bit of a turd.

But that was a rare miss. The talking heads are usually spot on - they'll call something like Doubt of Revolutionary Road based entirely on the names involved. And I'm not saying these movies aren't good or don't deserve the recognition; it just makes the whole thing seem really predictable.

[WVsax27]

But that was a rare miss. The talking heads are usually spot on - they'll call something like Doubt of Revolutionary Road based entirely on the names involved. And I'm not saying these movies aren't good or don't deserve the recognition; it just makes the whole thing seem really predictable.

I kind of agree, but there are cases where being the early frontrunner hurts even good movies. If they don't knock people dead buzz tends to start to die, even if the movie is good.

[KalMart]

If Ledger...or anything TDK... doesn't get any sort of nom or award though...big deal. It doesn't need that to justify anything or paint it in a better light at this point. Just about anyone involved doesn't really need that extra little boost of being an "academy award winning...." whatever, and not winning anything won't take away from what so many people liked about it and will continue to like about it for a good long while.

At the same time...if it does...let's not make this out to be the greatest achievement in the history of entertainment, either. :cwink:

[DarthAlani]

Another win for Heath!!

The Washington D.C. Area Film Critics

Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger (The Dark Knight)

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/dc-critics-vote-slumdog-big-and-give-nod-to-ledger slumdog is looking like the favorite to win best pic. Great for Ledger

[WVsax27]

coming up this week

Tuesday- LA Film Critics winners, Broadcast Film Critics Nominations.
Wednesday- New York Film Critics winners
Thursday- Golden Globe nominations

[The Chris]

coming up this week

Tuesday- LA Film Critics winners, Broadcast Film Critics Nominations.
Wednesday- New York Film Critics winners
Thursday- Golden Globe nominations

The Broadcast film critics noms could be the most likely considering the rating and comparison to others.

The Dark Knight-96
Slumdog Millionaire-92
Milk-92
Frost/Nixon-92
Benjamin Button-90 (so far)
Wall-E-90
The Reader-88
Doubt-85
The Wrestler-83
Revolutionary Road-79 (so far)
Defiance-78
Australia-76

[batman11]

The Broadcast film critics noms could be the most likely considering the rating and comparison to others.

The Dark Knight-96
Slumdog Millionaire-92
Milk-92
Frost/Nixon-92
Benjamin Button-90 (so far)
Wall-E-90
The Reader-88
Doubt-85
The Wrestler-83
Revolutionary Road-79 (so far)
Defiance-78
Australia-76

Wow. TDK ripped it up. :applaud

[Boom]

I'll chime in with a few predictions.

LA Film Critics
Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger

Broadcast Film Critics
Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger

New York Film Critics
Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger

Golden Globes
Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger

[Boom]

I have an idea.

How about we update the first post to include all nominations and wins that The Dark Knight receives? Kinda hard to keep track throughout this thread and the "Award Tracker" thread.

[Nirvana]

I have an idea.

How about we update the first post to include all nominations and wins that The Dark Knight receives? Kinda hard to keep track throughout this thread and the "Award Tracker" thread.

Agreed. :up:

[WVsax27]

The St. Louis Critics announced their nominations today...a pretty solid list actually. No idea when they announce their winners

Best Picture:
Milk
Slumdog Millionaire
The Dark Knight
Frost/Nixon
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

Best Actor:
Sean Penn (Milk)
Frank Langella (Frost/Nixon)
Richard Jenkins (The Visitor)
Mickey Rourke (The Wrestler)
Leonardo Di Caprio (Revolutionary Road)

Best Actress:
Kate Winslet (The Reader and Revolutionary Road)
Angelina Jolie (The Changeling)
Cate Blanchett (Benjamin Button)
Anne Hathaway (Rachel Got Married)

Best Supporting Actor:
Heath Ledger (Dark Knight)
Josh Brolin (Milk)
Robert Downey Jr. (Tropic Thunder)
Michael Sheen (Frost/Nixon)
Jeffrey Wright (Cadillac Records)
John Malkovich (Burn After Reading).

Best Supporting Actress:
Taraji Henson (Benjamin Button)
Penelope Cruz (Vicky Cristina Barcelona)
Marissa Tomei (The Wrestler)
Frances McDormand (Burn After Reading)
Amy Adams (Doubt)
Viola Davis (Doubt)

Best Director:
Ron Howard (Frost/Nixon)
David Fincher (Benjamin Button)
Gus Van Sant (Milk)
Danny Boyle (Slumdog Millionaire)
Chris Nolan (Dark Knight)

Foreign Language Film:
Slumdog Millionaire
Let The Right One in
The Class
I’ve Loved you So Long
Tell No One

Documentary
Man on a Wire
Body of War
Pray the Devil back to Hell
Shine A Light
Standard Operating Procedure

Best Comedy
Zack & Miri Make A Porno
Tropic Thunder
Forgetting Sarah Marshall
Burn After Reading
Role Models

Best Animated Film
Wall-E
Kung Fu Panda
Madagascar 2
Bolt
Chicago 10
Waltz With Bashir

Most Original/Creative Feature:
Benjamin Button
Wall-E
Speed Racer
Waltzing with Bashir
Slumdog Millionaire,
Synecdoche, New York

Best Cinematography:
Benjamin Button
Dark Knight
Australia
Revolutionary Road
Slumdog Millionaire
Milk

Best Screenplay:
Benjamin Button
Gran Torino
Slumdog Millionaire
Frost/Nixon
Milk

Best Music:
Gran Torino
Wall-E
Cadillac Records
The Visitor
The Dark Knight

Best Special Effects:
The Dark Knight
Benjamin Button
Iron Man
Speed Racer
Wall-E
Synecdoche NY

[DarthAlani]

Slumdog is the frontrunner right now. The academy loves this film especially since its a forgein film. The academy loves forgein films

[hatebox]

Slumdog is the frontrunner right now. The academy loves this film especially since its a forgein film. The academy loves forgein films

Rubbish, when was the last foreign film to win Best Picture? It's exceptional.

[The Chris]

Go TDK Go! St Louis' best picture lineup is what mines looks like now ( replaced Revolutionary road w/ frost/nixon)

[Doctor Jones]

See, the academy thinks there's other more deserving films than a comic book film. I really hope this isn't their thought process while doing the nominations.