Add deleted scenes to the Jan'09 re-release!

[Bat101]

Would any of you like to see deleted scenes added to the TDK re-release in January 2009?

[dark_b]

take a deep breath. ok?
what you saw in the theater was an directors cut.
take it easie.

[Arsh]

What deleted scenes? I think there was only one, and it was a short one.

[Bat101]

take a deep breath. ok?
what you saw in the theater was an directors cut.
take it easie.

How about the part where Bruce jumps out of the plane into the Hong Kong harbor? What about the part when Joker and his gang leave Bruce's party?

[Juggernaut33]

How about the part where (1)Bruce jumps out of the plane into the Hong Kong harbor? (2)What about the part when Joker and his gang leave Bruce's party?

1. Never shot.
2. Lasts 5 secondes. Joker jumps into the car, the driver asks: "what about Harvey Dent?". The Joer replies: "I am a man of my words."
WOOOOOOW.

[Bat101]

1. Never shot.

They can re-shoot that sequence and CGI the skydiving scenes.

[Kevin Roegele]

A new edit of The Dark Knight is not unlikely, but only after Warner Bros has made as much as possible out of the existing version. After all, there's a series of big paydays left for the movie; the re-release, the DVD release (surely it will be one of the biggest selling DVDs ever), Blu-Ray....only after that will they possibly ask Nolan to go back and add a few (and they will be few) deleted scenes. Basic rule of business, you don't bring out an updated product until everybody has bought the old one.

[Anita18]

A new edit of The Dark Knight is not unlikely, but only after Warner Bros has made as much as possible out of the existing version. After all, there's a series of big paydays left for the movie; the re-release, the DVD release (surely it will be one of the biggest selling DVDs ever), Blu-Ray....only after that will they possibly ask Nolan to go back and add a few (and they will be few) deleted scenes. Basic rule of business, you don't bring out an updated product until everybody has bought the old one.
And the first reaction by the fans would be ":cmad: WTF double-dipping!" :oldrazz:

And no, I highly doubt that Nolan would go back and film an additional scene he didn't intend to shoot the first time.

[Bat101]

A new edit of The Dark Knight is not unlikely, but only after Warner Bros has made as much as possible out of the existing version. After all, there's a series of big paydays left for the movie; the re-release, the DVD release (surely it will be one of the biggest selling DVDs ever), Blu-Ray....only after that will they possibly ask Nolan to go back and add a few (and they will be few) deleted scenes. Basic rule of business, you don't bring out an updated product until everybody has bought the old one.

But this could be the first film that does that!!!!!

[Bat101]

And no, I highly doubt that Nolan would go back and film an additional scene he didn't intend to shoot the first time.

But adding new scenes can be used as a marketing gimmick to lure more people to watch the film. If they keep it the same, people might not be interested in watching it again.

SINK THE TITANIC!!! (It's all part of the plan)

[Ace of Knaves]

And the first reaction by the fans would be ":cmad: WTF double-dipping!" :oldrazz:

And no, I highly doubt that Nolan would go back and film an additional scene he didn't intend to shoot the first time.


they did intend to have him jump out of the plane, they just couldn't do it because the Chinese apparently like to pollute their rivers!!

[Anita18]

they did intend to have him jump out of the plane, they just couldn't do it because the Chinese apparently like to pollute their rivers!!
That was just a rumor. Chris said himself that they changed it for story reasons, and that he "has no problem dumping movie stars" into polluted waters. :oldrazz:

[Ace of Knaves]

lol i see. never heard that before, i'm starting to like him even more!!! :)

[Saint]

Not going to happen. As far as we know, there is only one seconds-long sequence that could be added, and there's absolutely no chance Nolan would agree to film more scenes, effectively tampering with his work to appease a marketing push--and WB would not press him to; he's their golden goose right now. I doubt they'd even want to alter it; if you have a product you think is Oscar worthy, why would you want to mess with it? Why risk it?

[Ace of Knaves]

exactly Saint.

I don't think Warner Bros would risk pissing off Nolan. Warners need Nolan more than he needs Warners and i can imagen Nolan would tell anyone to go take a running jump if they tried to tamper with his creativity.

[Jokers_Wild]

I voted teh Republican option in the poll because I thought it was funny on a Batman forum. :o

[siriusfan]

Chris has said that what was filmed ended up in the film... so I doubt that there is any deleted scenes.

What i'd like to see are outtakes... please...

[Ace of Knaves]

yea i would love it if on the DVD/Blu-Ray there was a featurette following Heath around the set in full Joker garb between takes. Theres clips of him skateboarding as Joker so i would imagen that will be included, well i hope so anyway.

[scifiwolf]

Warner Bros would be stupid to change the film for the rerelease. Why the hell would they spend so much money to change the movie, print all the new versions, ship them, and market them? They would end up losing money and Oscar cache in the long run.

And somebody change the f***ing poll. This has got nothing to do with politics.

[JoeCat]

I would have liked to have seen Batman running on top of the cop cars and the Tumbler peeling out of the garage as seen in the Wizard-World footage

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[Lemenbolle]

I would love to have deleted scenes, no matter how likely it is..

By the Way: to all the people, so many people, saying there are no deleted scenes:
When filming, they film thousands of takes of scenes, surely..then, the producer/director, they decide what takes of what scenes to include, the excluded scenes......ARE DELETED SCENES.

'Deleted scenes' and 'extended cut' are two different beasts. The first one is a feature where you can watch the deleted scenes out of context...it will not change the film in the same way that en extended cut will do.
But I guess you alreaday knew..

[CFE]

Deleted Scenes...no thanks.

January Re-Release...Absolutely. I WISH that would happen.

CFE

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

There must be more deleted scenes than what they are telling us...

But if Nolan doesn't want us to see them, then that is fine.

...The theatrical cut is the directors cut... which is the cut many consider Oscar worthy. DO NOT tamper with it.

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Deleted Scenes...no thanks.

January Re-Release...Absolutely. I WISH that would happen.

CFE

It is happening! isn't it?

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

No way this will never happen, I try not to speak in absolutes, (as I am a Jedi Knight), but this one you can take to the bank.

[JP]

This thread is made of fail. :(

[FlawlessVictory]

Not going to happen. As far as we know, there is only one seconds-long sequence that could be added, and there's absolutely no chance Nolan would agree to film more scenes, effectively tampering with his work to appease a marketing push--and WB would not press him to; he's their golden goose right now. I doubt they'd even want to alter it; if you have a product you think is Oscar worthy, why would you want to mess with it? Why risk it?

Bingo!

[CFE]

It is happening! isn't it?

I don't think so...I mean if the DVD/Blu-Ray release is in October/November, what would really be the point of a re-release in January?

CFE

[up2nogood316]

re-release would be great and with added stuff it would be even better! i have no idea why people are like...uuuhh oohh nooo that wud be bad..eerrr

do you WANT the titanic to beat TDK?! i want anything and EVERYTHING done to topple this overated boat, and what better film than TDK to do it

[CFE]

Well if you look in the B.O. thread, the January re-release is in fact happening.

If "TDK" could potentially make it to $550 million by the end of this initial run, I don't see how it couldn't topple Titanic with the re-release.

CFE

[Darkknight14]

I would love to have deleted scenes, no matter how likely it is..

By the Way: to all the people, so many people, saying there are no deleted scenes:
When filming, they film thousands of takes of scenes, surely..then, the producer/director, they decide what takes of what scenes to include, the excluded scenes......ARE DELETED SCENES.


Wrong. Sorry. That scene is still included, they just chose to use a different take of it. Doesn't mean that entire scene is deleted. A real deleted scene is a scene that they chose not to include in the movie to shorten the length of it, and because the scene didn't alter the plot of the movie. For example, in Iron Man, that scene where Stark takes those girls upstairs that wasn't actually included? THAT is a deleted scene. All that footage that they just decide not to use is just that. Extra footage. Extra takes. The same scene, just a little bit different.

[FlawlessVictory]

I would love to have deleted scenes, no matter how likely it is..

By the Way: to all the people, so many people, saying there are no deleted scenes:
When filming, they film thousands of takes of scenes, surely..then, the producer/director, they decide what takes of what scenes to include, the excluded scenes......ARE DELETED SCENES.

'Deleted scenes' and 'extended cut' are two different beasts. The first one is a feature where you can watch the deleted scenes out of context...it will not change the film in the same way that en extended cut will do.
But I guess you alreaday knew..

Kosove's Alcon partner, Broderick Johnson, adds that beyond the creative vision are a set of skills found only in a handful of directors. "He has the whole movie, every single scene, in his head before he starts shooting," Johnson said. "And then coupled with that he's a really good communicator so he can get that vision across to everyone on set." The producers say that Nolan had already calibrated every scene in "Insomnia" so precisely that they could find only one deleted scene to include on the DVD.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1da5db18eb0203bb47d5118dccdf3432

You won't find much if hardly anything on the cutting room floor from this guy. :o

[Symbiote666]

Why is it being re-released?

[CFE]

Why is it being re-released?

Academy Awards attention and the prospect of finally besting 'Titanic' at the Box Office.

More the former...the latter is an added bonus, especially if it happens.

CFE

[agentzelda]

There's still no indication it will be a "wide release", probably only deluxe cinemas in big centres, and there is no indication at all it will interfere with a December release of the dvd, and Nolan never includes deleted scenes on those, so really, all that exists beyond what we see would probably be alternate takes. Possibly if the dvd/bluray includes, as it will, documentaries on the making of the film, we might see some of the alternate takes there.

[Ace of Knaves]

i think they should add a scene where Jokers sitting on the toilet looking through the funny pages of Gotham Times

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

a re-release seems kinda like a waste to me

[Spidey-Sean]

I would really love to see those snippets of scenes worked back into the movie. Anybody else remember the shot of Joker in the middle of the street twitching his hand from the first teaser? Or how about the even better shot of him with his back to the camera slowly lurching down the street as his switchblade pops open ominously.

Those clips never made it into the theatrical cut and I would love to have them and shots like it in an extended cut.

Oh, and any other scene transitions would be nice. Especially Joker leaving the party, or interscene transitions with possibly more footage of the batpod to compensate for the weird cutting around the subway shortcut (batpod shoots glass, suddenly driving up ramp, shoots more glass and bursts through this time, goes through pedestrian subway area, suddenly already halfway up the ramp outside of the subway) Within the transition from cut to cut, the batpod jumps about 60 feet forward without driving through the space. Sure it's comprehensible the batpod traveled that distance, but the editing was bad enough for me to notice this on my first viewing and wonder where the extra footage went of the Batpod actually driving through the glass or at least being shown leaving the physical space of the subway area before he's 60 feet out of it.

Oh, and what about the very first footage from the teaser trailer of the batpod zooming away from the camera into a big splash of light with his cape fluttering? At the end of the theatrical cut, all we got was a more distanced shot where the light barely is seen and Batman's cape hardly flutters at all. The teaser shot was much more effective and I would love to have that as the ending.

[Ace of Knaves]

they were in the film, its just that the shots used in the film were from different angles. but yea i prefer some of the shots in the trailer for that street scene. i prefered the way he screamed "HIT MEE!!!" from the trailer, in the film it only showed him from behind.

[bgates87]

This doesn't seem like something Chris Nolan would do. I doubt there will even be any deleted scenes on the DVD. Nolan is a smart and efficient director. Asking for deleted scenes is like saying, "I don't think Nolan knew what he was doing." If I was a director and people wanted to see my deleted scenes I would probably be a little offended that they didn't trust me to make a good cut.

[Ace of Knaves]

i don't think there will be deleted scenes as such, but maybe some scenes from different angles, the street scene where Jokers walking down the road for instance. that still sorta pisses me off, some really iconic shots were missed because they changed the angles.

[Nirvana]

I'd like it to have additional scenes, but I don't think it'll happen.

[byte19]

uhh...... more VIRAL MARKETING???

[TheDarkVictory]

there wont be any deleted scenes. there was only one and it was probably cut for a reason. this thread is dumb dumb dumb. also i hate a poll where it's so obviously supposed to be one choice. you suck.

[BatFitz]

Anybody else remember the shot of Joker in the middle of the street twitching his hand from the first teaser


While that was a great shot...I think sticking that into the scene would kind of throw the pace off. It was a pretty slow shot in the trailer...maybe just a snippet of it will work. Because youve got Batman driving fast towards Joker and meanwhile Joker is thinking and yelling "hit me"...I'm actually satisfied with the way they did it in the film. Just my opinion though. It'd be cool to see some new stuff. Especially if there's something showing Joker leaving the party. Heheh, or Batman admitting he can't believe he survived a 25 story drop onto a car! :whatever::oldrazz:

[CaptainClown]

Thats not a bias poll at all.

[YsoSerious]

Even me, a purist Republican type, says " Bring on some deleted scenes!!"

[Eggyman]

It is perfect as it is.

[fabman]

Huh, this is ridiculous?

Why should they re-edit the flick because some fans like the shots from the trailers better than what was in the final cut?

I mean, The Dark Knight is out... accept it for what it is or become directors, then you can decide which shots to include by yourself. ;)

"Yo Hitchcock, that shot sucks... you should've used the other take. Universal, please fix that, okay? And re-release it on DVD".

[patrickbateman]

is the January re-release global?

[Ace of Knaves]

Huh, this is ridiculous?

Why should they re-edit the flick because some fans like the shots from the trailers better than what was in the final cut?

I mean, The Dark Knight is out... accept it for what it is or become directors, then you can decide which shots to include by yourself. ;)

"Yo Hitchcock, that shot sucks... you should've used the other take. Universal, please fix that, okay? And re-release it on DVD".


don't get lemon.
i just think the shots of him screaming "HIT MEEE!!!" from the trailer was better than just seeing him from behind. even though i did like that shot, did anyone else notice his twitching hands? like he was bubbling with rage.

[EddieNashton]

Hell yeah re-release.

Viva Operation Sink the Ship.

[Harrygucha]

There's a little scene in the screenplay where the joker disguises his voice as a woman when he calls the engel show. That was cut.

[batman11]

There's a little scene in the screenplay where the joker disguises his voice as a woman when he calls the engel show. That was cut.

Do we know if it was ever filmed?

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Where did this news come up that TDK is gettine re-released in 2009?

[titan101]

There's a little scene in the screenplay where the joker disguises his voice as a woman when he calls the engel show. That was cut.**** , that would be pretty awesome to see .


i also kinda wish that the whole " fear gas joker " scene was a deleted scene that we might be able to see in the future .

[TheAQU4M4N]

^ i second that =)

[Bat101]

If Nolan won't want to add more scenes to the Jan'09 re-release, couldn't Warner Brothers just add it themselves without Nolan's approval? Warner Brothers and DC Comics have more power than Nolan when it comes to the ownership of "Batman".

[Ace of Knaves]

yea but would you really want the studio taking over creative control? that would be a disaster, the reason Nolan is so good is because he doesn't fold under pressure of the studio.

[Saint]

If Nolan won't want to add more scenes to the Jan'09 re-release, couldn't Warner Brothers just add it themselves without Nolan's approval? Warner Brothers and DC Comics have more power than Nolan when it comes to the ownership of "Batman".

As I said earlier: the reason they are re-releasing the film is for Oscar consideration. Because of this, they will absolutely not release a modified film. That would not serve their purposes. What's more, they would not tamper with a film they think is Oscar worthy, anyway. Finally, even if they all hit their heads, suffered brain damage and wanted to add scenes to the film, they still wouldn't do it--because they don't want to piss of the director who just made them half a billion dollars; a director they're trying to get to come back and make them another half billion.

[Saint]

don't get lemon.
i just think the shots of him screaming "HIT MEEE!!!" from the trailer was better than just seeing him from behind.
I think your memory is off. We did see him shouting "Hit me" from the front. It was a different take, but it was there.

[Anita18]

As I said earlier: the reason they are re-releasing the film is for Oscar consideration. Because of this, they will absolutely not release a modified film. That would not serve their purposes. What's more, they would not tamper with a film they think is Oscar worthy, anyway. Finally, even if they all hit their heads, suffered brain damage and wanted to add scenes to the film, they still wouldn't do it--because they don't want to piss of the director who just made them half a billion dollars; a director they're trying to get to come back and make them another half billion.
Exactly.

Nolan would simply pack up his bags and head to another studio. (Probably not Fox, but...anyway. :hehe: ) And right now, he's their cash cow.

[dark_b]

**** , that would be pretty awesome to see .


i also kinda wish that the whole " fear gas joker " scene was a deleted scene that we might be able to see in the future .yeah the joker gas scene was just a rumor. back then we didnt know that scarecrow is only at the beginning of the movie.

so the joker gas scene never happened.

[dark_b]

If Nolan won't want to add more scenes to the Jan'09 re-release, couldn't Warner Brothers just add it themselves without Nolan's approval? Warner Brothers and DC Comics have more power than Nolan when it comes to the ownership of "Batman".where are people getting those ideas? so now the studio is making the movie?

if the studio is able to make a better TDK movie then why even hire a director?

plus lets get some brain in here. the purpose of the re-realese is for oscars. the movie that made 500 milions will be realesed. why would you realese a different version of the movie? again where are those people born? on the moon or what?

i understand when someone opens a thread where he wants the deleted alternate shots on the DVD. but to include them in a new edit? this is just crazy.

[Spider-Vader]

It'd be smart for WB to add deleted scenes that weren't on the DVD to the re-release. Thus beating Boretanic.

Then re-release it later that year, pulling a Lucas on us. Oh well, I'll buy it again.

[Ace of Knaves]

i don't think there will be scenes added to the new re-release, but i think theres a good chance that on the DVD/Blu-Ray there will be multiple shots of different scenes. or a behind the scenes featurette with different takes on it.

[Harrygucha]

Do we know if it was ever filmed?
I believe it was filmed, but trimmed. The Joker says something in a womans voice, and then Engel says "Who is This?"

In the actual film it cuts straight to Engel saying "Who is this?" And then the Joker announces his threat to Reese. So the whole speech in the woman's voice was cut.

[batman11]

I believe it was filmed, but trimmed. The Joker says something in a womans voice, and then Engel says "Who is This?"

In the actual film it cuts straight to Engel saying "Who is this?" And then the Joker announces his threat to Reese. So the whole speech in the woman's voice was cut.

But, technically there's no proof right? I'm just curious as to whether it's a fact that it was filmed or cut before shooting.

[deathfromabove]

As I said earlier: the reason they are re-releasing the film is for Oscar consideration. Because of this, they will absolutely not release a modified film. That would not serve their purposes. What's more, they would not tamper with a film they think is Oscar worthy, anyway. Finally, even if they all hit their heads, suffered brain damage and wanted to add scenes to the film, they still wouldn't do it--because they don't want to piss of the director who just made them half a billion dollars; a director they're trying to get to come back and make them another half billion.

:up:

This thread is made of fail. :(

agreed.

don't get lemon.
i just think the shots of him screaming "HIT MEEE!!!" from the trailer was better than just seeing him from behind. even though i did like that shot, did anyone else notice his twitching hands? like he was bubbling with rage.

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I think your memory is off. We did see him shouting "Hit me" from the front. It was a different take, but it was there.


he said "hit me" from the front a few times actually. first a wide shot of him mumbling "hit me cmon i want cha to do it" batman screams and then the final shot was a very tight shot "HIT ME!" .

bottom line: tdk is the way chris nolan wants it. put all the extended and alternate takes on the dvd (please!) but leave the film untouched.

[Lemenbolle]

Wrong. Sorry. That scene is still included, they just chose to use a different take of it. Doesn't mean that entire scene is deleted. A real deleted scene is a scene that they chose not to include in the movie to shorten the length of it, and because the scene didn't alter the plot of the movie. For example, in Iron Man, that scene where Stark takes those girls upstairs that wasn't actually included? THAT is a deleted scene. All that footage that they just decide not to use is just that. Extra footage. Extra takes. The same scene, just a little bit different.

yeah, I see....

Then I would like an extended cut....because it's obvious that a lot of scenes were trimmed (or not?), when the film lasts more than two hours. Scenes are jumping from one moment to another without pause.

I just watched Dr. Strangelove.
Now.
That felt long.

[Punchinello]

yeah, I see....

Then I would like an extended cut....because it's obvious that a lot of scenes were trimmed (or not?), when the film lasts more than two hours. Scenes are jumping from one moment to another without pause.

I just watched Dr. Strangelove.
Now.
That felt long.

I agreee; about 90% of the trailers were not featured in the film at all, which was very disappointing. I found that some of the scenes, like you also said, 'jumped', particularly the party scene in Bruce's penthouse; could have been cleared up a lot better if they kept in Joker and his goons' escape (like in the screenplay and the novelization).