Superman Film Based on Smallville. Should It Happen?

[Man of Tomorrow]

After the news of the reboot, this question should probably be asked again. Would it simply be easier for WB to continue the Smallville TV series into the Superman movies?

There was always the question over whether Tom Welling could actually play Superman (and have the acting chops to pull it off). This week we witnessed our first glimpse of his portrayal of Supes (minus the costume) and it was pretty spot-on (especially the chemistry with Lois):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m-iK5vK8fA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4_1zFWxPac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us67UlmMpoM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YCe1xN6ME

Not to mention they've finally allowed him to look his age and he can pass for an adult Superman visually (as opposed to some of the younger, more boyish-looking casting suggestions):

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5051/5h3h3bq1.jpg

Many have been against the reboot being another origin tale, but with Smallville the origins are already covered. The movie could jump into the middle of the action (like Incredible Hulk) with mere glimpses of the origins (perhaps an updated Krypton) but all the familiar coming-of-age origin stuff can be easily avoided.

Also, none of the suggested known actresses for a reboot match up anywhere close to Erica Durance in looks and personality when it comes to Lois Lane, shes pretty much Lois right out of the comics:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9703/plastique12iv3.jpg

Big name actors can still be cast in the supporting roles and villian roles.

I'd support this over much younger actors being cast in the roles; it would feel like a major step backwards.

WB is looking to reinvent the franchaise, but they already have a reinvention that works and has the support of many top DC comics writers.

So should they continue the Smallville cast and storyline into the new Superman movies?

[Lighthouse]

*runs away as fast as he can*

[spideyboy_1111]

id support it... good way to wrap up and transition... plus lets face it. it'd be better then Justice League Mortal and Superman Returns put together...

[Man of Tomorrow]

I actually can't even picture any known actress who fits the role of Lois more naturally than her, check out this interview:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=5507#comments

And of course, Michael's Lex is brilliant.

[NeoRanger]

K-freaks. Lana worshipping. Dead continuity. Comic book and logical inconsistencies. Eight years of teenage soap opera.

Suddenly SR doesn't look so bad.

it would feel like a major step backwards.
If George Reeves was still alive today, he'd be 94 years old. Hey! Why don't we make a movie that carries on from "The Adventures of Superman" and cast a 95 year old Superman?

Major step backwards, because the proposed (and probably selected in the future) actors are of younger age than the stale Smallville cast? How so? No new people should ever tackle Superman, on the big screen?

[NotFadeAway]

It's not my first choice, but I wouldn't be against it. I'd rather see a movie with Welling and Rosenbaum before having Routh and Singer back, obviously Returns sucked.

But seriously, don't be shocked if a movie with the Smallville actors is atleast considered. Now, there is no way that Smallville WRITERS or PRODUCERS should have any say. If the movie was well written and directed, I think Welling would be fine. But he would need a tight script and a capable Director.

More than anything, I'd be happy with Rosenbaum playing Lex Luthor, even without the rest of the Smallville cast. The best Lex Luthor ever. Suck it real estate Lex.

[Jack O Lantern]

No, they are TV actors and do not have the talent or the presence to handle a motion picture.

[spideyboy_1111]

No, they are TV actors and do not have the talent or the presence to handle a motion picture.

u do realise theres not that much difference when you do an hour series right? not to mention plenty of actors jump from one screen to the other all the time, Hell Tom, Michael, and Kristen all have already

[nintendo nerd]

Batman gets Bale, Oldman, Caine, Ledger, and Freeman.

Superman gets Welling, Durance, Kreuk, O'toole and Rosenbaum ( which is the only decent actor on that horrible show ).

That's all I have to say.

[dark_b]

Batman gets Bale, Oldman, Caine, Ledger, and Freeman.

Superman gets Welling, Durance, Kreuk, O'toole and Rosenbaum ( which is the only decent actor on that horrible show ).

That's all I have to say.:wow:

[bunk]

Yes, let's make a movie based on a show that's seen it's viewership decline since season 2...

[dark_b]

even if theyy were better actors then bale,oldman,cain i still wouldnt want them.

if you want to forget about SR then go with a fresh start. an origin with new actors.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Again, the lesser known actors; Durance and Welling, are still better contenders for Lois and Superman than any known actors mentioned in casting threads.

Obviously Kreuk wouldn't be in it.

There are no known actors on par with Bale, Oldman, Caine, Ledger and Freeman that would be better for Superman and Lois.

The closest would be Jim Caviezel, and Welling fits the Superman role much better than him.

[NotFadeAway]

Again, the lesser known actors; Durance and Welling, are still better contenders for Lois and Superman than any known actors mentioned in casting threads.

Obviously Kreuk wouldn't be in it.

There are no known actors on par with Bale, Oldman, Caine, Ledger and Freeman that would be better for Superman and Lois.

The closest would be Jim Caviezel, and Welling fits the Superman role much better than him.

Sadly, Caviezal would have been to Superman what Bale has been to Superman......5-7 years ago. The Count of Monte Cristo is still one of my favorite films ever, mainly because of the performance of one Jim Caviezal, alhtough it was different than the book.

[nintendo nerd]

Again, the lesser known actors; Durance and Welling, are still better contenders for Lois and Superman than any known actors mentioned in casting threads.

Obviously Kreuk wouldn't be in it.

There are no known actors on par with Bale, Oldman, Caine, Ledger and Freeman that would be better for Superman and Lois.

The closest would be Jim Caviezel, and Welling fits the Superman role much better than him.


How do you know they are better contenders than other actors?

Have you see them playing Lois or Superman?

How do you know Welling is better than Caviezel? First of all, Welling is not an actor he is a model. A rock can act better than Welling.

[NotFadeAway]

How do you know they are better contenders than other actors?

Have you see them playing Lois or Superman?

How do you know Welling is better than Caviezel? First of all, Welling is not an actor he is a model. A rock can act better than Welling.


Actually, Welling can act better than Routh.

[nintendo nerd]

Actually, Welling can act better than Routh.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. :woot:

Whatever you say, man.

[NotFadeAway]

I still want Jim Caviezal in a Superman movie, as Jor-El AND Braniac. You see, I think they should be played by the same actor, but thats a different story for a different thread. The reboot should be a Superman vs. Braniac flick.

[NotFadeAway]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. :woot:

Whatever you say, man.

Ummm, you do know Welling beat out Brandon Routh for the role of Clark Kent in Smallville. Not to mention the horrid actor known as Jensen Ackles beat out Routh as well as Peter Petrelli. Routh sucks, and thats why you will never see him in the suit again.....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL:yay::oldrazz::cwink::yay :

I suppose you think Routh is better than Cavill as well, the man who was born to play Superman now that Caviezal is too old. Routh couldn't carry Cavill's jock or out act Welling.

[X-Maniac]

I wouldn't mind seeing a Smallville movie with Welling as Superman.... but i don't think we will get the Smallville cast in the next Superman reboot movie.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

After the news of the reboot, this question should probably be asked again. Would it simply be easier for WB to continue the Smallville TV series into the Superman movies?

There was always the question over whether Tom Welling could actually play Superman (and have the acting chops to pull it off). This week we witnessed our first glimpse of his portrayal of Supes (minus the costume) and it was pretty spot-on (especially the chemistry with Lois):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m-iK5vK8fA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4_1zFWxPac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us67UlmMpoM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YCe1xN6ME

Not to mention they've finally allowed him to look his age and he can pass for an adult Superman visually (as opposed to some of the younger, more boyish-looking casting suggestions):

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5051/5h3h3bq1.jpg

Many have been against the reboot being another origin tale, but with Smallville the origins are already covered. The movie could jump into the middle of the action (like Incredible Hulk) with mere glimpses of the origins (perhaps an updated Krypton) but all the familiar coming-of-age origin stuff can be easily avoided.

Also, none of the suggested known actresses for a reboot match up anywhere close to Erica Durance in looks and personality when it comes to Lois Lane, shes pretty much Lois right out of the comics:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9703/plastique12iv3.jpg

Big name actors can still be cast in the supporting roles and villian roles.

I'd support this over much younger actors being cast in the roles; it would feel like a major step backwards.

WB is looking to reinvent the franchaise, but they already have a reinvention that works and has the support of many top DC comics writers.

So should they continue the Smallville cast and storyline into the new Superman movies?

Cheers that was actually really cool. Pity they didnt just make a Superman show with that cast years ago instead of Smallville. Anyone know why its still called that?

[nintendo nerd]

I wouldn't mind seeing a Smallville movie with Welling as Superman.... but i don't think we will get the Smallville cast in the next Superman reboot movie.


Now I understand all your hate towards SR you are a Smalllville fan. :o

[NeoRanger]

Quite frankly, Welling was a good fit for a 15-year-old Clark, the 'Baum was a good fit for Lex and Schneider was a good fit for a young Pa Kent. That's about all.

Ashmore for Jimmy? No. Durance as Lois? Hell no. Mack as Chloe? Ehm, sure, but where does she fit?

Especially in the case of Durance, I'll never get what people find in her performance as Lois. It's subpar, at best. Nothing against the girl, but even in terms of television Superman, her Lois comes pretty low in the list. Terri Hatcher, Dana Delaney, Phyllis Coates, perhaps Noel Neill too (who I admit not having seen as Lois yet). And she's the better fit for Lois?

[nintendo nerd]

Man, I wish WB announces the new cast tomorrow so the Welling fans could shut up. They are so annoying.

[nintendo nerd]

Ummm, you do know Welling beat out Brandon Routh for the role of Clark Kent in Smallville. Not to mention the horrid actor known as Jensen Ackles beat out Routh as well as Peter Petrelli. Routh sucks, and thats why you will never see him in the suit again.....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL:yay::oldrazz::cwink::yay :

I suppose you think Routh is better than Cavill as well, the man who was born to play Superman now that Caviezal is too old. Routh couldn't carry Cavill's jock or out act Welling.


Guess you didn't read the SR critics were most of them liked Routh's performance. Too bad we can't say the same of Welling in Cheaper by the dozen and the Fog. :woot:

[DrMylesOBoogie]

How do you know they are better contenders than other actors?

Have you see them playing Lois or Superman?

How do you know Welling is better than Caviezel? First of all, Welling is not an actor he is a model. A rock can act better than Welling.
Welling's been acting in Smallville for 8 years which is alot longer then most people stay in the one job. He is an actor and has a legion of fans that love his work.

Also let me clarify my hatred of SR has nothing to do with my support of Welling. Id happily enjoy Routh if he'd been good and the film itself had been good. Fact is the film sucked and he was crap.

[NotFadeAway]

Too bad it was also noted in most reviews that Routh did not play Superman, he played Chris Reeve.

[NotFadeAway]

Welling's been acting in Smallville for 8 years which is alot longer then most people stay in the one job. He is an actor and has a legion of fans that love his work.

Also let me clarify my hatred of SR has nothing to do with my support of Welling. Id happily enjoy Routh if he'd been good and the film itself had been good. Fact is the film sucked and he was crap.

I heard that

[NotFadeAway]

I've actually always been in favor of using the Animated Series with as the template for the new film.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I wasn't a fan of Welling or Durance's acting at first either.

But there's no way I can honestly watch Plastique (last week's episode) and say they did a bad job.

They pretty much played their roles spot-on with their comic counterparts. Given the right direction, they're great.

I encourage people to put their petty biases aside, and check out the episode I linked with an open mind.

[nintendo nerd]

Welling's been acting in Smallville for 8 years which is alot longer then most people stay in the one job. He is an actor and has a legion of fans that love his work.

Also let me clarify my hatred of SR has nothing to do with my support of Welling. Id happily enjoy Routh if he'd been good and the film itself had been good. Fact is the film sucked and he was crap.

Yes he's been playing the character for 8 years and his acting skills have not improved at all, he is terrible, he is a disgrace for Superman.. You mean teenage girls that love his job.

[NotFadeAway]

I wasn't a fan of Welling or Durance's acting at first either.

But there's no way I can honestly watch Plastique (last week's episode) and say they did a bad job.

They pretty much played their roles spot-on with their comic counterparts. Given the right direction, they're great.

By no means am I saying Welling is a good actor. Frankly, I don't know about Welling as an actor. He has shown flashes of being very capable, and then flashes of awfulness. I think it all depends on the script and the director.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Guess you didn't read the SR critics were most of them liked Routh's performance. Too bad we can't say the same of Welling in Cheaper by the dozen and the Fog. :woot:Im convinced most didnt even watch the film before writing their early reviews. It was strange to see such a turd get 4 and 5 stars all over the place before its theatrical run but not such hot reviews for the dvd release.

[nintendo nerd]

I've actually always been in favor of using the Animated Series with as the template for the new film.

At least on that we can agree. BUT NO SMALLVILLE CAST. :yay:

[Man of Tomorrow]

By no means am I saying Welling is a good actor. Frankly, I don't know about Welling as an actor. He has shown flashes of being very capable, and then flashes of awfulness. I think it all depends on the script and the director.

It's definitely direction and script.

Notice he played Bizarro, RedK Clark and Lionel awesome but is rather dry when playing farmboy Clark.

Now, he does a great job playing the new Metropolis reporter (Superman without the suit) Clark.

And Durance is closer to the postcrisis Lois now than Kidder and Hatcher ever were.

[NeoRanger]

Im convinced most didnt even watch the film before writing their early reviews. It was strange to see such a turd get 4 and 5 stars all over the place before its theatrical run but not such hot reviews for the dvd release.
It's not impossible. Superman Returns is one of those things that gets (a lot) worse with subsequent viewings. First time I saw it, I sort of liked it (despite disappointments). Now, I only use the DVD for decorating my shelf and have no intention to take it out again. Ever.

[nintendo nerd]

Im convinced most didnt even watch the film before writing their early reviews. It was strange to see such a turd get 4 and 5 stars all over the place before its theatrical run but not such hot reviews for the dvd release.

Yeah, since they don't agree with you that means they didn't watch the film. :whatever:

They were busy watching the fog and Cheaper by the dozen, or maybe all the seasons of smallville on DVD.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Yes he's been playing the character for 8 years and his acting skills have not improved at all, he is terrible, he is a disgrace for Superman.. You mean teenage girls that love his job.Im a huge Superman fan that is not a teenage girl and I enjoy his performances. I also dont blindly say everything is great if its Superman. Im honest and Smallville has its MANY flaws. Welling's performances is not one of them though.

[nintendo nerd]

Just look at that poll, everybody wants a Smallvile movie, yay.!!!!!!!!!:o

[nintendo nerd]

Im a huge Superman fan that is not a teenage girl and I enjoy his performances. I also dont blindly say everything is great if its Superman. Im honest and Smallville has its MANY flaws. Welling's performances is not one of them though.

I'm sorry I can't take you seriously with that signature of yours.

[The Sage]

Fresh reboot needs a fresh cast with no carryovers from other interpretations.

[nintendo nerd]

Fresh reboot needs a fresh cast with no carryovers from other interpretations.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!

If only the Welling fanboys could understand that. But its like talking with a wall.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Just look at that poll, everybody wants a Smallvile movie, yay.!!!!!!!!!:o
My problems with a Smallville film is the baggage of convoluted stories the idiots in charge have given us over the years not with the cast which I actually really like.

[nintendo nerd]

My problems with a Smallville film is the baggage of convoluted stories the idiots in charge have given us over the years not with the cast which I actually really like.

Good for you. :oldrazz:

[Man of Tomorrow]

Just look at that poll, everybody wants a Smallvile movie, yay.!!!!!!!!!:o

This will tip it over

http://forums.superherohype.com/group.php?groupid=32

[NeoRanger]

And Durance is closer to the postcrisis Lois now than Kidder and Hatcher ever were.

Talking a lot and calling Clark "Smallville" makes her neither a solid post-Crisis Lois interpretation nor worthy of filling the character's shoes on the big screen. Funny you should mention "Plastique" too, because while her dialogue and interaction with Clark were upped from their usual exchanges, she forgot to be one thing that Lois, from the Golden Age to Byrne, has been: competitive. She's dangerously about to turn into the new Lana, because, you know, Smallville needs people making out.

Delaney remains the best post-Crisis Lois. And, hell, she was only a voice. Durance has the same problem that everyone in this damn show has; they lack diversity. They always talk the same way, walk the same way, blink the same way. Every.damn.episode. And I doubt they can shake it off, if they play the same characters anywhere else either.

[Man of Tomorrow]

My problems with a Smallville film is the baggage of convoluted stories the idiots in charge have given us over the years not with the cast which I actually really like.

The thing is how many of those storylines would actually NEED to be carried into the Superman movie based off Smallville?

Barely any of them were carried into this season alone, which is why it feels like a reboot this year.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

The thing is how many of those storylines would actually NEED to be carried into the Superman movie based off Smallville?

Barely any of them were carried into this season alone, which is why it feels like a reboot this year.
There's a really important one tho. The absence of glasses on Clark.

[smooth3006]

im all for the idea and i think tom would make a great superman. :woot:




:supes:

[Man of Tomorrow]

There's a really important one tho. The absence of glasses on Clark.

Lex already knows about Clark, which is probably for the best.

Lois and Jimmy can learn about Clark = Superman towards the end of the first film.


Shouldnt be a problem.

He's supposed to develop the dual identity/glasses disguise this year.

[smooth3006]

There's a really important one tho. The absence of glasses on Clark.


i admit now after seeing season 8 when he is working at the daily planet he does need to be wearing glasses. i mean lois already knows him without them so when he does become superman someday she would be able to tell it's him.

[spideyboy_1111]

Batman gets Bale, Oldman, Caine, Ledger, and Freeman.

Superman gets Welling, Durance, Kreuk, O'toole and Rosenbaum ( which is the only decent actor on that horrible show ).

That's all I have to say.

you can't look at it as "THE SUPERMAN MOVIE" you have to look at it as "SMALLVILLE MOVIE" There could easily be a "good" comic book superman movie out year/s before or after

[BATZARRO WWD]

Sure, no problem with a straight to home or DTV movie.
Beyond that, eh no.

[spideyboy_1111]

Guess you didn't read the SR critics were most of them liked Routh's performance. Too bad we can't say the same of Welling in Cheaper by the dozen and the Fog. :woot:

in all fairness most of what routh did in SR was move... he was a pretty silent superman

[spideyboy_1111]

Lex already knows about Clark, which is probably for the best.

Lois and Jimmy can learn about Clark = Superman towards the end of the first film.


Shouldnt be a problem.

He's supposed to develop the dual identity/glasses disguise this year.

now that i wont agree on... there will only be one smallville film if it EVER happens.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Lex already knows about Clark, which is probably for the best.

Lois and Jimmy can learn about Clark = Superman towards the end of the first film.


Shouldnt be a problem.

He's supposed to develop the dual identity/glasses disguise this year.
But whats the point in him having a dual identity if everybody knows about it?

[Man of Tomorrow]

Lois and Clark get married, so obviously she'd have to know at some point.

And there's no reason why Jimmy shouldnt know, he's destined to be Clark's only male friend and he's part of the Clark/Lois team.

It would be cool for Clark to have a confidant in Jimmy since Chloe is obviously destined to die on this show at some point.

[spideyboy_1111]

i guarantee before the last season of smallville ends some kinda memory wipe will happen, no way could it not

[nintendo nerd]

you can't look at it as "THE SUPERMAN MOVIE" you have to look at it as "SMALLVILLE MOVIE" There could easily be a "good" comic book superman movie out year/s before or after

I don't want a Superman TV movie.

[Man of Tomorrow]

But whats the point in him having a dual identity if everybody knows about it?

The people of Metropolis, the world, Perry etc still won't know..

Only Lois, Jimmy and Lex

Superman could be a mysterious figure at first; a guardian angel of sorts, but the second Lois finally meets him face to face, she'll be in for a surprise.

[nintendo nerd]

The people of Metropolis, the world, Perry etc still won't know..

Only Lois, Jimmy and Lex

Superman could be a mysterious figure at first; a guardian angel of sorts, but the second Lois finally meets him face to face, she'll be in for a surprise.

GOD!!!! Smallville is a mess, deal with it.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

The people of Metropolis, the world, Perry etc still won't know..

Only Lois, Jimmy and Lex

Superman could be a mysterious figure at first; a guardian angel of sorts, but the second Lois finally meets him face to face, she'll be in for a surprise.Difficult to pull off. Im all for him getting the specs if they can make it work. Geoff Johns might think of something for them.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Theyre already playing up the aspect of Clark keeping his heroic life secret from Lois this year at the Daily Planet. An episode named "Identity" is supposed to deal with that this year.

I figure after 2 years of this, people are going be wanting Lois to know at some point.

It's the only way their relationship can move forward closer to the one in the comics.

[spideyboy_1111]

I don't want a Superman TV movie.

what makes a difference? the superman reboot would come out prob before this would.. and wouldn't effect a superman comic movie at all.

[NotFadeAway]

At least on that we can agree. BUT NO SMALLVILLE CAST. :yay:


Hey, if we get Henry Cavill as Superman with TAS as the template, I'll be a happy man.

[smooth3006]

Hey, if we get Henry Cavill as Superman with TAS as the template, I'll be a happy man.


i honestly doubt they will even go with cavill at all.