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Matt

10-01-2008, 06:11 PM

And I would like to say that I find it remarkable when you allow posters like Whirlysplat and lazur to actually engage in trolling on the boards, yet you give me two weeks of thread probation because I posted a thread with an article from the Enquirer about Sarah Palin, mocking an earlier thread about John Edwards which used the Enquirer as a source.

Because I called out lazur, though there is no mention of lazur at all in my posts in that thread, nor did I refer to him as a "certain someone" as you apparently claim. :huh:

Whirlysplat and lazur have not created threads with the intent of attacking other posters. You can act like you were not all you want, but at the end of the day, I passed it off to two neutral mods and they came to the same conclussion.

Oh-- and I would also like to say that I find it remarkable that I am labeled a troll when you, a mod, attack other posters, blatantly bash their political views, and use personal information they share with the rest of the hype in your attacks [yeah.... because I again, I denote that it is oh-so-hilarious to make a joke about the circumstances surrounding my two personal announcements I made in this forum].

I still think it was funny. Why you can't just see the humor in the comment is beyond me.

Yeah, you know why I don't fault Superman for this title? Because he isn't a mod. Someone who is SUPPOSED to be impartial and adhere to high standards.

So, don't talk to me about "double standards," you certainly don't seem to mind living by them on a regular basis.

Because Electric Bogaloo creates such a sense of impartiality. I think its more of a case of it not bothering you because you agree with the attack on Fox News.

Marx

10-01-2008, 06:18 PM

Whirlysplat and lazur have not created threads with the intent of attacking other posters. You can act like you were not all you want, but at the end of the day, I passed it off to two neutral mods and they came to the same conclussion.

To be fair, they do throw around ridiculous accusations and stereotypes as a means to bait people into an argument. Jman's thread in question, was no different than the one about John Edwards having an affair backed up solely by a tabloid...that I believe was posted by Lazur originally.

I still think it was funny. Why you can't just see the humor in the comment is beyond me.

Because Electric Bogaloo creates such a sense of impartiality. I think its more of a case of it not bothering you because you agree with the attack on Fox News.

Electric Boogaloo wasn't exactly a proper name for a serious thread though. Neither is 'Fox Ownage.'

The Senator

10-01-2008, 06:26 PM

Whirlysplat and lazur have not created threads with the intent of attacking other posters. You can act like you were not all you want, but at the end of the day, I passed it off to two neutral mods and they came to the same conclussion.

There was no intent of "attacking" lazur at all, I already explained this to you. The intent was to post a thread which mirrored lazur's, except using Sarah Palin as the subject of the Enquirer article instead. Any other poster could have posted the John Edwards-lovechild thread, and I would have responded to it. And, in fact, other posters within that thread and the biased media thread used the Enquirer as a source, so to say that I was attacking one poster in particular is nonsensical at best.

There is no use of the phrase "a certain someone" in my first post, there is use of the phrase "someone," because yes, someone did indeed post the Edwards-lovechild story. Coincidentally, lazur was that "someone."

If I wanted to attack lazur I would have mentioned his name outright, I haven't hesitated in the past to mention his name when I disagreed with something he posted, I don't see why I would have then.

Also, you are wrong about Whirlysplat, considering he posted a thread to incite a response from others [and isn't that what "trolling" technically is? an act which purposefully incites an argument, with considerable malice?] in the Community Forum, where he said that all activists are pedophiles. That sounds like swell behavior to me.

I still think it was funny. Why you can't just see the humor in the comment is beyond me.

I understand why YOU think it is funny, but the fact of the matter is, you took something which was personal to ME and used it as an attack. Plain and simple, you hit below the belt on that one and, in my opinion, it transcends playful humor. Had I known that you would have been as inconsiderate to use that against me, I never would have posted those threads; and, as mentioned in the other thread, had I been able to foresee the near future, and the fact that my hiatuses were uncalled for, I never would have posted them in the first place.

But, continue your deeply personal attacks against posters here. Difference is, you'll get away with it.

Because Electric Bogaloo creates such a sense of impartiality. I think its more of a case of it not bothering you because you agree with the attack on Fox News.

Not at all, actually, I understand Superman4ever's sense of humor and do not expect anything less of him to post a title like this. I agree that FOX News is biased, but that has nothing to do with it.

When you go from having the "Obama Thread 2.0" to "Obama Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo," after you've had a history of criticizing Obama for being all style and no substance, it seems rather childish. Not to mention, it was the thread to discuss Barack Obama, sort of an 'official' thread on the man.

And-- to take this one step further, when a mod changed the title of the "Sarah Palin Thread" to "Let's Bash Sarah Palin," I complained about that, too, because it was childish.

When a mod changes a title of a thread to reflect one or two posters' ill-conceived sentiments towards the basis of those threads, that is when I consider it childish.

You want to change the title of the FOX News thread? Go right ahead, it won't affect me in the least bit. You won't hear a complaint about it.

But please-- spare me the lectures on "double standards," or at least prove that you are in a position to be lecturing others about them.

Matt

10-01-2008, 06:26 PM

To be fair, they do throw around ridiculous accusations and stereotypes as a means to bait people into an argument. Jman's thread in question, was no different than the one about John Edwards having an affair backed up solely by a tabloid.

When they do such things they are disciplined. Remember, you can't see infractions of other posters. There is a line between minor and occassional baiting and making a thread with the intent to attack other posters.

Electric Boogaloo wasn't exactly a proper name for a serious thread though. Neither is 'Fox Ownage.'

A title is just a title.

Thinkton

10-01-2008, 06:27 PM

This is stupid that video doesn't prove anything. You can see there are other people on the other side of the store that doesn't show on tv.

Marx

10-01-2008, 06:32 PM

When they do such things they are disciplined. Remember, you can't see infractions of other posters. There is a line between minor and occassional baiting and making a thread with the intent to attack other posters.

I know that I can't see infractions, I'm just saying my opinion man. There ARE posters who bait others into an argument...Jman isn't one of them though. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

A title is just a title.

To some, yes. I just think we all get caught up sometimes in taking ourselves a little too seriously on the HYPE. Then again, politics is a very passionate and emotional matter.

Matt

10-01-2008, 06:32 PM

There was no intent of "attacking" lazur at all, I already explained this to you. The intent was to post a thread which mirrored lazur's, except using Sarah Palin as the subject of the Enquirer article instead. Any other poster could have posted the John Edwards-lovechild thread, and I would have responded to it. And, in fact, other posters within that thread and the biased media thread used the Enquirer as a source, so to say that I was attacking one poster in particular is nonsensical at best.

There is no use of the phrase "a certain someone" in my first post, there is use of the phrase "someone," because yes, someone did indeed post the Edwards-lovechild story. Coincidentally, lazur was that "someone."

If I wanted to attack lazur I would have mentioned his name outright, I haven't hesitated in the past to mention his name when I disagreed with something he posted, I don't see why I would have then.

You just can't admit you did something wrong. :oldrazz:

Also, you are wrong about Whirlysplat, considering he posted a thread to incite a response from others [and isn't that what "trolling" technically is? an act which purposefully incites an argument, with considerable malice?] in the Community Forum, where he said that all activists are pedophiles. That sounds like swell behavior to me.

Talk to Dew, Community is her territory. Also, I'd ask why you did not report it?

I understand why YOU think it is funny, but the fact of the matter is, you took something which was personal to ME and used it as an attack. Plain and simple, you hit below the belt on that one and, in my opinion, it transcends playful humor. Had I known that you would have been as inconsiderate to use that against me, I never would have posted those threads; and, as mentioned in the other thread, had I been able to foresee the near future, I never would have posted them in the first place.

But, continue your deeply personal attacks against posters here. Difference is, you'll get away with it.

A joke about your tendency to post going away messages is no different than jag joking about my thoughts towards Barack Obama. Difference is, you take things personally.

Not at all, actually, I understand Superman4ever's sense of humor and do not expect anything less of him to post a title like this. I agree that FOX News is biased, but that has nothing to do with it.

When you go from having the "Obama Thread 2.0" to "Obama Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo," after you've had a history of criticizing Obama for being all style and no substance, it seems rather childish. Not to mention, it was the thread to discuss Barack Obama, sort of an 'official' thread on the man.

And-- to take this one step further, when a mod changed the title of the "Sarah Palin Thread" to "Let's Bash Sarah Palin," I complained about that, too, because it was childish.

When a mod changes a title of a thread to reflect one or two posters' ill-conceived sentiments towards the basis of those threads, that is when I consider it childish.

You want to change the title of the FOX News thread? Go right ahead, it won't affect me in the least bit. You won't hear a complaint about it.

But please-- spare me the lectures on "double standards," or at least prove that you are in a position to be lecturing others about them.

Well it IS a double standard.

Matt

10-01-2008, 06:35 PM

I know that I can't see infractions, I'm just saying my opinion man. There ARE posters who bait others into an argument...Jman isn't one of them though. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

not saying he is. He is the one who brought up one incident, in which he was insulting and baiting another poster.

To some, yes. I just think we all get caught up sometimes in taking ourselves a little too seriously on the HYPE. Then again, politics is a very passionate and emotional matter.

Yes, I agree...but some times we all just need to laugh, eh? :yay:

Marx

10-01-2008, 06:41 PM

not saying he is. He is the one who brought up one incident, in which he was insulting and baiting another poster.

I'm glad that we agree. :cwink:

Yes, I agree...but some times we all just need to laugh, eh? :yay:

All too true...especially when dealing with the political realm!

The Senator

10-01-2008, 06:59 PM

You just can't admit you did something wrong. :oldrazz:

Because, as far as I'm concerned, I didn't do anything wrong... and since there is a lack of substantial evidence supporting your claim, you have nothing to prove that I did anything wrong anyway :oldrazz:

Talk to Dew, Community is her territory. Also, I'd ask why you did not report it?

That thread has been heated and noticeable in the Community forum for a few days now, I didn't think it merited reporting.

But now I have reported it, let's see what happens. Ten bucks says he won't get infracted at all, and he'll still be allowed to post the same vile nonsense on a regular basis without receiving action.

A joke about your tendency to post going away messages is no different than jag joking about my thoughts towards Barack Obama. Difference is, you take things personally.

Difference is, this is a HIGHLY personal issue which you used to attack me. Had you said "I dislike Obama," and then jag made a joke about it, and you said "I dislike him because he killed my mother," that would be uncalled for. You making a joke about my PERSONAL situation, though, crosses a line.

Well it IS a double standard.

Yep, keep calling the knife a spoon. :up:

Apollo

10-01-2008, 07:24 PM

Post your favorite FoxNews news here!

Per Matt's request!

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That just made my day! Bwhahaha!! :woot: :woot: :woot:

you can hear a guy in the back saying "Split?" during the laughing.

Sentinel X

10-01-2008, 09:39 PM

Post your favorite FoxNews news here!

Per Matt's request!

KTkqosRiyYoSplit??....we know someone didn't pass 3rd grade math :o

HAHAHA!!!! :hehe:
They should be ashamed.

Wow, seriously FOX sucks....Its sucks at movies and it sucks at news... :csad:

gap5ewl

10-02-2008, 12:51 AM

My favorite is when fox gets photoshop happy:

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Superman

10-02-2008, 04:44 AM

My favorite is when fox gets photoshop happy:

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I hadn't seen those before.:wow:

Superman

10-02-2008, 05:18 AM

Jman, I'd like to say that I find it remarkable when I jokingly named the second Obama Thread "electric bogaloo," after a Hype lounge (playing on the joke that the Obama thread was political's lounge for so long) yet you have no problem with the title of this thread. Bit of a double standard.What the hell Matt?

I come in here and 7 posts into the thread I see YOUR FIRST POST and it's a blatant attack on Jman in a thread that you, A Mod, asked for. Your first post had nothing to do with the subject of the thread. It's just you going after Jman over a personal fight you two are having.

If any one of us had done what you just did here we would be wrote up and probably put on probation for trolling and baiting another poster into a fight.

This is wrong and I think it should be taken up with the administration. Just because you are a mod doesn't mean you get any special privileges

Matt

10-02-2008, 05:37 AM

Its a fair question. I simply wanted to know the difference as to why he had an issue with Electric Boogaloo and not the Ownage Thread.

Superman

10-02-2008, 06:04 AM

Its a fair question. I simply wanted to know the difference as to why he had an issue with Electric Boogaloo and not the Ownage Thread.It's called "PM" as in Private Message.

Your first post, Your "Fair Question", Was about a private fight you and Jman are having and it had nothing to do with the subject of the thread. You didn't have to come in here and attack him like that just to ask your "fair question". It could have been done in a PM but you decided to bring it in here so every one could see your attack on Jman. As a Mod you should know better.

I've been told by other mods that that's trolling for a fight. I've seen people get probation for less so I don't see why you should be allowed to get away with it.

Now if you want to talk anymore about it I suggest we do it in PMs with the administration and Jman, You've derailed this thread enough.

Superman4ever

10-02-2008, 07:09 AM

I guess it's fair, so can we change the title to "The Fox News Thread". HOWEVER, under one condition, REMOVE that damn smiley face on the first post to a no post smilie!

I refuse to be happily associated with a Fox News Thread.

If the :D cannot be removed from the political thread then the title stays "The Fox'News' Thread (AKA The Ownage Thread!)" :cmad: No exceptions!

Superman4ever

10-02-2008, 07:33 AM

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http://www.outfoxed.org/

Superman4ever

10-02-2008, 07:36 AM

Fox attacks Obama EXACTLY like they did Kerry!

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Ohhhh, he's liberal, illetist Muzzlem. http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/scared/scared0016.gif

danoyse

10-02-2008, 10:48 AM

I see this thread going down a bad road fast, if it hasn't already.

Matt and Jman--if you're going to argue, take it to PMs. What you're saying to each other has nothing to with the topic of this thread and no one else wants to read it.

I'm going to change the title of the thread, because I think it will only lead to people making similar threads regarding all of the other networks, and frankly I think a single media thread will be fine.

Everyone behave, and remember all of the news networks are biased in one form another (some more blatant than others).

Thanks.

The Senator

10-02-2008, 02:47 PM

MaskedManJRK

10-02-2008, 03:09 PM

Yeah, let's settle down with the argument between Jman and Matt and talk about something a little less decisive and controversial, like FOX News. :woot:

lazur

10-02-2008, 03:27 PM

Apparently, all news is biased to one side or the other, and apparently all media is owned by CFR...

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Hole Shot

10-02-2008, 11:52 PM

Lighthouse

10-03-2008, 12:38 AM

Always felt Fox News was biased and full of ****, but they really pissed me off with this pitiful, backhanded obituary to one of my heroes.

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Hole Shot

10-03-2008, 12:47 AM

Always felt Fox News was biased and full of ****, but they really pissed me off with this pitiful, backhanded obituary to one of my heroes.

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I like Vonnegut myself and wouldn't call that a slanderous hit piece.

I can understand wanting a litte more higher praise for a him, but the 20th Century thing is a bit of reach. He was in fact one of the great writers of the 20th Century, why is that an insult?

Superman4ever

10-03-2008, 12:20 PM

My favorite is when fox gets photoshop happy:

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HOLY CRAP! :wow::wow:

The Senator

10-03-2008, 12:46 PM

So I just watched O'Reilly v Frank. At first I found it entertaining because Bill O'Reilly anger and watching him flip is why I watch him. But them I'm like, "dude, did you bring him on to interview him or just to scream/scold him so you could sell more 'Who is looking out for you' coffee mugs?"

I honestly don't mind O'Reilly's aggressiveness at all, but he could have had a much more civil exchange.

Frank managed to defend himself. But as Frank said to Bill, "your stupidity gets in the way of rational discussion," and Bill's BPRS [Blind Partisan Rage Syndrome] prevented Frank from getting more than a few words in during that six minute exchange.

Superman4ever

10-04-2008, 02:23 PM

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I wonder if they'd allow someone to say the same about McSame or Falin!

Excel

10-04-2008, 02:27 PM

I smell a conspiracy.

For both the 1st Presidential Debate and VP Debate, Fox's early poll numbers have add the score 86-12 in favor McCain and Palin. The same score, roughly a half hour after the debate. About an hour later, real polls come out showing Obama and Biden with clear wins and they change it.

86-12.

Coincidence?

Or ****ing with the numbers?

Shifty

10-04-2008, 07:06 PM

They (Palin and GOP) call Obama a friend of terrorists, CNN at the end of the article explains the "terrorist" is now a professor in America, is not friends with Obama and they only met a few times to work on school reform and just being in the community. Fox News mentions none of that. Fair and balanced?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/04/palin.obama/index.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/04/mccain-seeks-comeback-final-month-campaign/comments/
Saw the article on CNN and was curious how FoxNews would handle the "Palin: Obama is a secret terrorist" article. I thought there would be maybe one sentence about Ayers being a professor and not being friends. Can't even get one sentence out of them.

ChrisBaleBatman

10-06-2008, 02:33 PM

Hobgoblin

10-06-2008, 02:38 PM

I just wish they didn't lie so bad with they're tag line.

Fair and balanced.

Pretty much a ********, everyone can agree to that.

Although, I think CNN is pretty fair and balanced. Although Lou Dobbs hates everyone and everything....which I guess is pretty fair in and of itself.

I prefer CNN over FOX but CNN can be pretty patronizing. One of the anchors was interviewing someone after Ike hit Texas and they were talking about the high gas prices as a result of the storm. He told the specialist to explain to people in the Midwest what this all means. I was like, "I get what it means you arrogant ****."

ChrisBaleBatman

10-06-2008, 02:47 PM

Yeah. But, I think they often try....sometimes to a fault....to 'connect' to the regular people by asking/answering the question to almost everything that comes across they're airwaves: "How will this effect me?"

That's the point they usually hammer to high hell, I think. But, I think it's a solid way to go at the news.

I actually prefer MSNBC. I know, I know...it's the Lefty version of Fox, but I still like it because that's where I am in the spectrum. It's why I can't blame anyone for liking/watching Fox News. I just ask that we all, the viewers, be conscience of where they're support is.

That and I like Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow.

And the Daily Show and Colbert Report, of course. Real Time with Bill Maher is awesome too. I basically jump across all these, and listen in sometime to CNN's Wolf, King or AC(sounds like a badass group of muscians there...). I sometimes listen in to some Fox News stuff too.

Sometimes, I wonder too....if they get either the dumbest leftwing people they can...or just rightwing people who are pretending to be lefty on they're network.

Most of the lefties I've ever seen on Fox News almost always gets owned to holy hell. Beaten with a kettle and pissed on. Seriously. Sometimes entertaining. Sometimes sad to see.

bell110

10-06-2008, 03:45 PM

Post your favorite FoxNews news here!

Per Matt's request!

KTkqosRiyYo

I like when the old man tried to raise his hand for McCain and his wife put it back down.

So I just watched O'Reilly v Frank. At first I found it entertaining because Bill O'Reilly anger and watching him flip is why I watch him. But them I'm like, "dude, did you bring him on to interview him or just to scream/scold him so you could sell more 'Who is looking out for you' coffee mugs?"

I honestly don't mind O'Reilly's aggressiveness at all, but he could have had a much more civil exchange.

That's basically all he can do when he's on the losing side of an arguement.

Sometimes, I wonder too....if they get either the dumbest leftwing people they can...or just rightwing people who are pretending to be lefty on they're network.

Most of the lefties I've ever seen on Fox News almost always gets owned to holy hell. Beaten with a kettle and pissed on. Seriously. Sometimes entertaining. Sometimes sad to see.

I think it's both. People like Colmes and Kristen Power may lean slightly to the left, but they aren't the equivilant of Hannity or O'Reilly. Plus they know who signs the checks. The problem is that Fox's interviews are more like interrogations. They ask loaded question and try to steer the guest to the answer they want and if the guest doesn't fall for it, they shout over them and cut off the mic.

ChrisBaleBatman

10-06-2008, 07:21 PM

They've cut peoples mics during the interview?

gap5ewl

10-06-2008, 07:23 PM

They've cut peoples mics during the interview?

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ChrisBaleBatman

10-08-2008, 01:25 PM

wow.....that's.....wow.......

Suddenly, all the hatred Olberman has for O'riley makes...so much sense.

Has any other network done that? I hear how MSNBC is the leftwing version of Fox News, but....I've never seen that done on they're network before. Never seen anything like that before, actually. Shouting down your own guest seems like a good way to not get anyone back on your show, I'd think.

And cutting off George Carlin. Un ****ing forgivable.

Addendum

10-08-2008, 03:21 PM

As much as cutting off George Carlin annoyed me, when he cut the mike on a retired Colonel with 29 years of service because she disagreed with him, that really pissed me off.

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Keep an eye on the caption underneath her as it changes from "U.S. Army (RET.) Col. Ann Wright" to "Anti-War Activist Col. Ann Wright"

ChrisBaleBatman

10-08-2008, 04:14 PM

that's scary right there.

She never claimed anyone was evil or anyone's to blame.

And suddenly, she's a traitor?

Wow. These are some crazy vids....I knew, and heard of, some of the critcisms directed towards Fox News, but that's some strange stuff to actually see unfold.

gap5ewl

10-08-2008, 08:45 PM

This has been making the round on youtube. Hannity got called out on some serious BS.

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I love how he backpeddles to Obama/Ayers lol.

Comicfilmer

10-08-2008, 08:55 PM

I can't wait to see Hannity's smug face the night Obama wins the election. I might record it, take a screenshot, and use it as my desktop.

Superman4ever

10-09-2008, 12:00 AM

Hannity gets OWNED. I declare that we rename this thread the ownage thread!

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I know it's been posted but I love it too much!

Team Andino

10-09-2008, 02:22 AM

Addendum

10-09-2008, 04:04 AM

Tonight on the O'Reilly Factor :woot:

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Armand Z Trip

10-09-2008, 11:55 AM

Hannity gets OWNED. I declare that we rename this thread the ownage thread!

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I know it's been posted but I love it too much!

That was fantastic, it inspired John Cleese to send Keith Olbermann a poem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PpQUAvebbA

Anita18

10-09-2008, 12:18 PM

I remember back in 2004 I tried to get into politics and I wanted to start watching the news and keep as best I could up to date on all the news an world events. I started to watch Fox News and after about week I couldn't stand watching it and seeing anything made me sick. 4 years later here I am starting all over again to get into politics and the 1st thing I realize is how much bull$*** they would try to feed people. The fact that some of the stuff that Ive heard them say should get them fired or in trouble for being racist or straight up ignorant. Hopefully if Obama wins then I'll get to see clips of these leaches at Fox News react to something good for this country.
I decided to get back into the news and politics in August of 2005. That was when Katrina hit.

OMG I don't remember being that consistently angry, ever, in my 24 years on this earth. I think I lost years of my life.

Hannity gets OWNED. I declare that we rename this thread the ownage thread!

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I know it's been posted but I love it too much!
It's so :lmao: that I can't even understand what they're arguing about until the third guy decides to come in and inject some logic.

Tonight on the O'Reilly Factor :woot:

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:lmao: :lmao: That kid is great.

ChrisBaleBatman

10-10-2008, 07:50 PM

lol. great stuff.

kainedamo

10-11-2008, 09:53 AM

Earlier today, Obama spokesman gets cut off.

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What's funny is that I'm positive I saw this exact same spokesman on Fox answering these exact same questions on Ayers just a couple of days ago.

Why are Fox still talking about Ayers? And why are they so eager to make it seem like the Obama campaign has changed their position on Ayers?

On the day that the Troopergate report shows that Palin abused her power, why aren't they talking about that?

kainedamo

10-11-2008, 10:03 AM

Here is the full clip.

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And another clip, again I think from today's segment of Fox and Friends.

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Seriously, just listen to those shmucks!

Superman4ever

10-15-2008, 03:21 PM

O'Reilly owned by a kid.

:)

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USMC

10-15-2008, 05:53 PM

O'Reilly owned by a kid.

:)

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God, O'reilly is such a dummy. :yay:

"Jesse you should read O'reilly Factor for kids, it would be very educational for you..."

"I have read it, Bill"

Oops, go to commercial. :D

SentinelMind

10-16-2008, 05:01 PM

Glenn Beck is leaving CNN for Fox News

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1008/Glenn_Beck_joins_Fox_News.html

Franklin Richards

10-16-2008, 05:02 PM

In other news, the sun will rise tomorrow.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

jaguarr

10-16-2008, 05:03 PM

Glenn Beck is leaving CNN for Fox News

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1008/Glenn_Beck_joins_Fox_News.html

He'll fit in better there.

jag

Shifty

10-16-2008, 05:05 PM

Interesting since he said he liked being at HN since he stood out from the rest of the shows and at Fox News he wouldn't standout. But the money truck must have been backed up.

jaguarr

10-16-2008, 05:09 PM

O'Reilly owned by a kid.

:)

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Haha! Bill got schooled by a tenth grader. :D

jag

SuBe

10-16-2008, 05:12 PM

Interesting since he said he liked being at HN since he stood out from the rest of the shows and at Fox News he wouldn't standout. But the money truck must have been backed up.
Hopefully he replaces Bill O'Reilly.

Shifty

10-16-2008, 05:25 PM

Hopefully he replaces Bill O'Reilly.

Papa Bear isn't going to hibernate for awhile.

He would be up against the 2nd hour of The Situation Room. 5pm has been a problem spot for them, three shows have aired in that timeslot this year.

SuBe

10-16-2008, 05:51 PM

Papa Bear isn't going to hibernate for awhile.

He would be up against the 2nd hour of The Situation Room. 5pm has been a problem spot for them, three shows have aired in that timeslot this year.

I'm always at work at 5pm so I had no idea what's on at time

gap5ewl

10-16-2008, 07:38 PM

Glenn Beck is leaving CNN for Fox News

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1008/Glenn_Beck_joins_Fox_News.html

About time.

Etienne

10-16-2008, 09:07 PM

A_Tgo8lIIF0&eurl=http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=36520

Superman4ever

10-16-2008, 10:06 PM

Glenn Beck is leaving CNN for Fox News

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1008/Glenn_Beck_joins_Fox_News.html

About damn time. Now if they could boot that retard Nancy Grace I'd be gravy.

Honey Vibe

10-16-2008, 10:07 PM

He'll fit in better there.

jag
Cheez... ...worst move he'll ever make.

Malice

10-16-2008, 10:53 PM

I bet he will do fine there.
I like Glen Beck
cracks me up

Fading

10-16-2008, 11:37 PM

I remember back in 2004 I tried to get into politics and I wanted to start watching the news and keep as best I could up to date on all the news an world events. I started to watch Fox News and after about week I couldn't stand watching it and seeing anything made me sick. 4 years later here I am starting all over again to get into politics and the 1st thing I realize is how much bull$*** they would try to feed people. The fact that some of the stuff that Ive heard them say should get them fired or in trouble for being racist or straight up ignorant. Hopefully if Obama wins then I'll get to see clips of these leaches at Fox News react to something good for this country.

Very similar to me. Kerry vs. Bush was the first election I was finally old enough to vote in. I decided to try and catch up on Fox. It was interesting at first as it seemed to have more energy than most news channels, but after 2 weeks, maybe just short of a month, I was sick of it.

C.F. Kane

10-18-2008, 11:27 AM

A_Tgo8lIIF0&eurl=http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=36520

Give me an example of Obama slamming Fox for criticizing his policies and I'll agree with Cavuto.

chaseter

10-18-2008, 01:40 PM

Fox news is crazy but so is CNBC.

Etienne

10-20-2008, 05:37 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,441501,00.html
So Obama thinks that FOX News has hurt him in the polls, saying that even if he watched us, he wouldn't vote for himself either.

Now, I don't think he's wrong. I actually think FOX News does go after him. But hell, someone has to.

For my whole life, every network has been uniformly, heart-bleedingly liberal. Nearly every damn magazine, newspaper and after-school special spits out the same lefty assumptions — rich people greedy, Republicans bad, America evil — as though they are suffering from a Marxist version of Tourette.

And Obama is their guy.

That's why today, every anchor has a woodie for him, and every star-struck pop singer offers the Messiah their services for free. And there's the late night comics, who hammer Republicans seven times more often than Dems. It's just too easy to be funny.

But despite all this, you still have twerps soiling their diapers over FOX News just because it won't comply with an overarching liberal theocracy. You've got celebrity cretins like Tim Robbins, watchdog weenies like Media Matters and crybaby cranks like Keith Olbermann suffering seizures because FOX won't roll over.

I say, stop being a bunch of wussies, you pretty much own the airwaves.

And as for you Obama, stop acting like a kid who complains because you got a 98 instead of a perfect grade. Seriously, you don't need mindless obedience from everyone to win.

So Obama, if you're expecting people here to kiss your ass, you'll need to go elsewhere. I hear there's a guy at MSNBC with a thrill up his leg dying to give you a sponge bath.

And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

Überlibran

10-20-2008, 05:44 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,441501,00.htmlWhat a moron. I hope this isn't what passes as editorials and opinion pieces from Fox. I'm all for dissenting opinions as long as they're thoughtfully formed, but this guy is just a jerk about it.

Addendum

10-20-2008, 06:06 PM

He's just bitter because his show comes on at 3am and can't compete with infomercials

Bathead

10-20-2008, 06:20 PM

I still believe this so-called liberally biased media is a myth.

Fading

10-20-2008, 07:34 PM

What a retarded way to come to that conclusion (the above quote from Fox that is). Many ppl get their news from one place, so it's ok for Fox to spoon feed viewers nothing but Obama attacks because they think every other news channel leans left?

I admit I have seen liberal bias from time to time, Olbermann anyone? However I've seen those same stations give both sides fair time to both parties to speak as well. Fox (as clips in this thread have shown) cut off mics of those they disagree with, just admitted to attacking Obama more often, photoshop pics of ppl they don't like, and have ppl like Hannity on the air who say some of the wildest conspiracy talk I've ever heard a "legitimate" news anchor...guy....whatever say.

If they just slightly attacked Obama to try and balance it out...fine whatever. However everytime I'm flipping thru the channels it ALWAYS seems like they're attacking Obama. Ppl who watch Fox must think Obama's the devil incarnate for how much his wrong doings are constantly reported on Fox.

comicgirl

10-20-2008, 07:36 PM

FoxNews..........the news is whatever we say it is!!!:cmad:

Addendum

10-20-2008, 07:43 PM

FoxNews..........the news is whatever we say it is!!!:cmad:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images//e/e4/Weazel_News_logo.png

Superman4ever

10-20-2008, 09:28 PM

McCain called out by FoxNews?

For Vid: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/mccain-calls-obama-socialist-mccain-vot

McCain calls Obama a Socialist, but McCain voted for the Bail Out and wants to spend government money on the mortgage crisis

John McCain attacks Barack Obama as a socialist because of his tax policy and because he wants to help the entire population, not just the wealthiest of us pm FOX, but when Wallace reminded the Senator that he voted for the government bail out of Wall St. and wants to bail out bad mortgages using government funds he said that " oh well, I'm just trying to help."

He makes our case that government should be used to assist this country when it needs it. And the talking point about socialism is another desperate measure by John McCain. He really makes no sense at all. He flip flops from being a conservative to a populist to a socialist from sentence to sentence.

WALLACE: But you did it indirectly, so let me ask you for some straight talk. Do you think that Senator Obama is a socialist? Do you think that his plans are socialism?

MCCAIN: I think his plans are redistribution of the wealth. He said it himself, "We need to spread the wealth around." Now, that's one of...

WALLACE: Is that socialism?

MCCAIN: That's one of the tenets of socialism. But it's more the liberal left, which he's always been on. He's always been in the left lane of American politics.

WALLACE: But, Senator, when we talk...

MCCAIN: So is one of the tenets of socialism redistribution of the wealth? Not just socialism — a lot of other liberal and left wing philosophies — redistribution of the wealth? I don't believe in it. I believe in wealth creation by Joe the Plumber.

WALLACE: But, Senator, you voted for the $700 billion bailout that's being used partially to nationalize American banks. Isn't that socialism?

MCCAIN: That is reacting to a crisis that's due to greed and excess in Washington.

And what this administration is doing wrong, and what Paulson is doing wrong, is not going out and buying up home loan mortgages, home mortgages, and giving people new mortgages at the new value of their home so they can stay in their home.

They're bailing out the banks. They're baling out these institutions.

WALLACE: But you voted for that.

MCCAIN: Of course. It was a package that had to be enacted because the economy was about to go into the tank.

Transcript below the fold:

During the — during the Depression, we had a program to take care — where they went out and bought homeowners' mortgages, and then over time they even made money as the values of homes began to increase.

If we don't turn — the housing market was the catalyst — the greed and excess, and Fannie Mae and Freddie, which some of us proposed legislation to rein in — the Democrats were in charge of Congress for most six — for the last couple of years, and they did not act, and so — and Senator Obama did not act.

But the point is that, of course, when a — when a — that's the reason why we have governments, to help those who need help, who can't help themselves, and when time of crisis to step in and do what's necessary to preserve the lives and futures of innocent people.

It wasn't Main Street America that caused this. It was Washington and Wall Street.

*Twilight Zone theme*

souvlaki

10-21-2008, 02:30 PM

Marx

10-21-2008, 02:41 PM

McCain called out by FoxNews?

For Vid: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/mccain-calls-obama-socialist-mccain-vot

*Twilight Zone theme*

FOX News, though still blatantly biased, has been callling McCain out on a number of things. It is strange to see! :funny:

Superman4ever

10-22-2008, 01:17 PM

Marx

10-22-2008, 01:18 PM

SuBe

10-22-2008, 01:18 PM

I wouldn't put any stock into what O'Reilly says.

Marx

10-22-2008, 01:20 PM

I wouldn't put any stock into what O'Reilly says.

I highly doubt that anyone does. :oldrazz:

C.F. Kane

10-22-2008, 01:45 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,441501,00.html

"You sir are worse than Hitler"?

Someone actually got paid for writing "You sir are worse than Hitler"? Jesus. Speaking of sounding like a whiny kid...

Dark Victory

10-22-2008, 01:54 PM

The Senator

10-22-2008, 02:05 PM

Gotta love O'Reilly's electoral college numbers:

http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/winning-the-electoral-college/

Obama: 183
McCain: 189

Iowa, Oregon, Michigan, Minnesota and Pennsylvania are all toss ups, along with the usual suspects.

:lmao:

Nevermind that Obama has had either a solid lead or the race has been tied in North Carolina since late September. But it's a solid red state. Same thing with North Dakota.

Oh, and even better? Obama has held double-digit leads in Oregon, Iowa, Michigan and Pennsylvania since that time period as well, which automatically disqualifies them from "swing state" status.

But I guess there are pundits on both ends who are fudging the electoral college numbers. Dick Morris has Obama winning Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee and Kentucky in his latest electoral map, with Arizona, Mississippi, and South Carolina as "toss ups."

Shifty

10-22-2008, 09:54 PM

And we can look forward to another four years of Papa Bear. He signed a 4 year contract today. He will be giving up the Radio Factor.

ShadowBoxing

10-22-2008, 10:13 PM

How about we call it "Faux News: No Anti-Americans allowed"

Paradoxium

10-22-2008, 10:19 PM

How about we call it "Faux News: No Anti-Americans allowed"

Or use a comicbook nerdish injoke :woot:

Fox News: One More Day
Fox News: I heart Joe Quesada and OMD
Fox News: The Clone Saga
Fox News: Satan worships Tom Rothman
Fox News: Rob Liefield's Guide to Drawing Anatomy

SuBe

10-23-2008, 11:09 AM

Just Released, O'Reilly is quitting Talk Radio, and is going to "focus" on the TV show. The end is near.

Superman4ever

10-23-2008, 11:54 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,441501,00.html

This is actually on their official web-site? It's filled with profanity, inaccuracies, bulling and just plain the stupidest jargon...er, never mind.

jaguarr

10-23-2008, 12:00 PM

Or use a comicbook nerdish injoke :woot:

Fox News: One More Day
Fox News: I heart Joe Quesada and OMD
Fox News: The Clone Saga
Fox News: Satan worships Tom Rothman
Fox News: Rob Liefield's Guide to Drawing Anatomy

I think "Fox News: Die, Liberal, Die!" would be fitting.

jag

Fading

10-23-2008, 12:13 PM

It's a few months old, but Fox trying to make McCain look younger by posting 8 year old footage while acting like it was recent footage of McCain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPoaovzD6x4&feature=related

C.F. Kane

10-23-2008, 03:08 PM

ChrisBaleBatman

10-24-2008, 01:46 PM

Ehh.....lol.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-03-2008, 03:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT2UIgFZMas

classy....

Seriously, as someone who MAY have restless leg syndrome (still need to see a slew of doctors over it), calling someone's illness "the jimmy legs" is beyond wrong.

I mean, ****...can't they actually find something fair to hit him with?

Real classy.

Team Andino

11-03-2008, 04:24 PM

Mike059jig

11-03-2008, 05:56 PM

i love when Obama did his fist jab with his wife and fox said it was a "terrorist fist jab"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxhpQ6rYigw&feature=related

and a few weeks ago they were criticizing Sarah Palin photo on Newsweek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yStRlkHyFrE

Excel

11-03-2008, 06:00 PM

My god its called a POUND, not a "fist bump" or "jab".

sorry...

Excel

11-03-2008, 06:00 PM

My god its called a POUND, not a "fist bump" or "jab".

sorry...

Nivek

11-03-2008, 06:29 PM

My god its called a POUND, not a "fist bump" or "jab".

sorry...

Shhh... It's funny to see that the old people are so out of it when they don't notice simple stuff like that. My manager (who is only 56) didn't know what the fist bump is about, the look in my eyes when she told me about it being a possible terrorist code must have read the raw mocking laughter trapped in my head.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-03-2008, 06:32 PM

lol.

People who are out of touch with the modern world should never attempt to call things stuff.

Like calling a pound a jab.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-03-2008, 06:33 PM

The magazine cover was no big deal, I thought.

These are the same people that claim talking about her clothes is sexist...even though it's not sexist to demand her photo be retouched to make her look hotter?

Hmmmm.

Addendum

11-03-2008, 07:41 PM

Li'l O'Reilly returns

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USMC

11-04-2008, 05:16 PM

So I pulled up the Coverage Map on Fox News...

for some reason it has Maine and New Hampshire already showing Obama with 67% of the votes, no other state is shown, yet the entire US map has McCain up 58% to Obama's 40%...

:huh:

USMC

11-04-2008, 05:17 PM

Haha, it just switched back, now it has Obama at 66% and McCain at 33%...

random.:o

Anita18

11-04-2008, 05:51 PM

Shhh... It's funny to see that the old people are so out of it when they don't notice simple stuff like that. My manager (who is only 56) didn't know what the fist bump is about, the look in my eyes when she told me about it being a possible terrorist code must have read the raw mocking laughter trapped in my head.
I would have laughed aloud. :woot:

Malice

11-04-2008, 06:09 PM

Brit Hume cracks me up....
His little atttempts at humor and little quirks...

His monotone voice is also a little amusing.

comicgirl

11-04-2008, 09:15 PM

Check this out.....

FoxNews' Major Garrett Defends Obama Against "Fox and Freinds" in Leaked E-Mail

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/03/fox-news-major-garrett-de_n_140503.html

Anybody!...anybody else surprised that a Fox coorespondent had the brass cojones to do this? :word:

Anita18

11-04-2008, 09:19 PM

Superman4ever

11-04-2008, 09:25 PM

Darthphere

11-07-2008, 10:20 AM

Shephard Smith has become somewhat of a hero for me. It seems like he didn't get the memo Hannity passed around about hating on Obama and Liberals in general because the guy has been rocking people left and right. First, Joe the Plumber got what was coming to him, then Nader received a sound thrashing. I mean, Shep called Nader irrelevant, to his face, on a tv screen. Dude, what is up with Shep Smith?

SuBe

11-07-2008, 10:21 AM

Maybe the "Evil" Fox News wasn't as bad as some people thought?

Darthphere

11-07-2008, 10:23 AM

No, that's not it.

ShadowBoxing

11-07-2008, 10:25 AM

Fox News' response to the election:
"Hey, Mr. Black President, we're still cool right? right?"

BlackLantern

11-07-2008, 10:30 AM

I've never had issue with Shep....

The Senator

11-07-2008, 11:41 AM

Maybe the "Evil" Fox News wasn't as bad as some people thought?

Evil? No.

Overtly biased? More biased than any other news network out there? Absolutely.

I think it can be summed up best by a headline I saw the other day, as FOX was reporting on Sarah Palin's return to Alaska. The headline read "Palin returns to Alaska with bright future ahead of her," as the "Fair and Balanced" logo spun in the right-hand corner of the screen.

If that isn't extremely biased, I don't know what the hell is...

Bathead

11-07-2008, 11:44 AM

I suspect Fox hired him so they could point to him and say "See, we're not biased!"

Octoberist

11-07-2008, 11:45 AM

what did Smith say about Joe the Plumber?

ShadowBoxing

11-07-2008, 11:48 AM

Evil? No.

Overtly biased? More biased than any other news network out there? Absolutely.

I think it can be summed up best by a headline I saw the other day, as FOX was reporting on Sarah Palin's return to Alaska. The headline read "Palin returns to Alaska with bright future ahead of her," as the "Fair and Balanced" logo spun in the right-hand corner of the screen.

If that isn't extremely biased, I don't know what the hell is...
She may well have a bright future, with lots of grandkids, and a nice house, with a white picket fence...but she just will be blacklisted from her party and won't be able to participate in important politics as long as she lives :heart:

Addendum

11-07-2008, 11:50 AM

Unless she names herself as the replacement for Stevens' seat

metr0man

11-07-2008, 11:58 AM

Shep Smith has been one of the less douch-y fox news guys. You remember he did some good stuff during Katrina too, even as Hannity tried to be the government's apologists, Shep just shut him down and went insane talking about how sh-tty conditions were and that the gov't was no help.

Whats hilarious though is watching the FOX News room on election night. It was like a FUNERAL, all these long awkward silences, Brit Hume sounding depressed as hell, even the call that Obama had taken Ohio and won was extremely lame....... then you turn to CNN and John King is all excited, showing off his massive gadget screen doing 20 different things that we probably dont care about but watch anyways because that screen gadget is so cool, then they cut to screaming crowds of people going insane, CNN's announcement was epic, they had a countdown to the poll closing hour from ten seconds, then their breaking news screen and a big banner that Obama was elected president, then immediate cut to 200,000 people in Chicago going INSANE. CNN's coverage felt like history. FOX's felt like a sullen funeral.

Darthphere

11-07-2008, 12:02 PM

what did Smith say about Joe the Plumber?

9eSJuWgZGYo

Octoberist

11-07-2008, 12:09 PM

Thanks.

Joe doesn't sound too intelligent.

SuBe

11-07-2008, 12:36 PM

Octoberist

11-07-2008, 12:39 PM

look. CNN is bias too.

I just think that Fox is 'uber douchier' than CNN.

SuBe

11-07-2008, 12:45 PM

look. CNN is bias too.

I just think that Fox is 'uber douchier' than CNN.
Is that because you agree with CNN's Bias? So Fox is "doucher" than CNN because they have right leaning Commentators?

Octoberist

11-07-2008, 12:50 PM

Fox has O' Reily in whom can be a real douche at times, but I can see why people like him. He's like a shock jock.

I have extremists in general, but yes, I think Fox seems to be douchier. more cut throat, if you will.

I don't agree with CNN all the time, by the way. But they seem to have more..self control, i suppose.

BlackLantern

11-07-2008, 12:50 PM

SB is right though...Fox sticks out a lot more because every other outlet does lean left.......I consider Olbermann just as big of a douche as O'Reilly

SuBe

11-07-2008, 12:51 PM

There is a difference between Commentator and Reporter. Yes, the Commentators are allowed to Comment on their Opinions, but the Reporters on Fox don't show bias.

Octoberist

11-07-2008, 12:51 PM

that's true.

SatEL

11-07-2008, 03:29 PM

There is a difference between Commentator and Reporter. Yes, the Commentators are allowed to Comment on their Opinions, but the Reporters on Fox don't show bias.

Lol Who are you trying to kid?

Holiday

11-07-2008, 03:30 PM

CNN really is biased. His name is Lou Dobbs.

Back to shep. He said the bj word on air a few years ago (youtube it) and played it off and didn't get fired. I thought thsat was great.
And I love that he's holding people accountable for what they say on his show. Guys like Hannity won't do that if they agree with the person.

SuBe

11-07-2008, 03:32 PM

Lol Who are you trying to kid?
Name one reporter from Fox News that show any bias at all. Just one.

ShadowBoxing

11-07-2008, 03:34 PM

Did someone just say 'Lou Dobbs', because that means God will have to kill a kitten.

rdh007

11-07-2008, 03:41 PM

Shephard Smith is still unsettling to look at.

Manic

11-07-2008, 03:46 PM

9eSJuWgZGYo
Joe just got B-slapped.

Also, does Shephard Smith know he has two last names?

SatEL

11-07-2008, 03:50 PM

Name one reporter from Fox News that show any bias at all. Just one.

One is to easy how about I name a few,Megyn Kelly,Sean Hannity,Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy.:yay:

SuBe

11-07-2008, 03:54 PM

One is to easy how about I name a few,Megyn Kelly,Sean Hannity,Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy.:yay:
Sean Hannity, is a Commentator. Not a Reporter.

Brian Kilmeade, and Steve Doocy are all Morning Show Anchors, not Reporters.

Megyn Kelly is also a Anchor, and she is a Legal Anylist.

I'm talking about News Reporters, like Brian Wendal, or Carl Cameron. They are not biased at all.

The Senator

11-07-2008, 04:09 PM

There is a difference between Commentator and Reporter. Yes, the Commentators are allowed to Comment on their Opinions, but the Reporters on Fox don't show bias.

Of course, I'm not even talking about reporters vs. commentators when it comes to overt bias. My example included a graphic produced during a "news" segment which claimed that Sarah Palin had a bright future ahead of her. Tell me that isn't biased...

BlackLantern

11-07-2008, 04:09 PM

Steve Doocy is a Doocebag

SuBe

11-07-2008, 04:10 PM

Yeah, Steve Doocy, he's a real Hatemongering Righty:

November 7, 2008 - 13:02 ET

Tales from the Dad Side: Misadventures in Fatherhood
By Steve Doocy

GLENN: Well, if it isn't the one, the only Mr. Steve Doocy from Fox News, also author of Tales From the Dad Side. Steve, how are you?

DOOCY: Great, thank you very much although I must say I feel kind of bad.

GLENN: Why?

DOOCY: Last time I was on your show, later that day it was released that you were coming to Fox and I know that in your heart you wanted to tell me that you were coming but an announcement hadn't been made yet. Welcome to Fox.

GLENN: Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. It is -- you know what? I'm actually in your building now officially for the first time Monday. I'm going to be with O'Reilly and then I think I'm with you guys Tuesday morning.

DOOCY: Oh, that's fantastic.

GLENN: It's -- you know, it's a different world. It is a different world.

DOOCY: Yeah. For you it's got to feel like a jail break coming over to Fox.

GLENN: You know, let me ask you this, Steve. I had the most awkward conversations, or nonconversations in the elevators over at CNN. Elevator talk would stop when I would walk in and, you know, I'd be like, it's okay, guys, it's all right, I know the crazy conservative's here. Do you ever have that, those awkward moments over at Fox?

DOOCY: No, not really. I'm sure that one day you were probably over at CNN and Paul Begala probably was just looking into your ribcage trying to stop your beating heart, right?

CALLER: Well, you know what? I have to tell you, Steve, you know what, I have to tell you you have Geraldo Rivera who, blood shoots out of my eyes. I saw him with you guys the other day.

DOOCY: He's on every Friday. Listen, Glenn, it's what Fox is all about. We're fair and balanced.

GLENN: I know.

DOOCY: We have both sides. We've got all these Democrats on, we've got all these Republicans on. You know, it's a wading pool with hot coffee.

GLENN: No, you know what? Can I tell you something? I've watched the coverage on all of the networks. I mean, I said this before we were, you know, going over to Fox. Fox -- I mean, I've heard the Clintons even say it. You guys gave everybody a fair shake.

DOOCY: Absolutely. I mean, Barack Obama was on our show five times. You know, you don't keep coming back if you're having a bad time. And besides, they realize we're the number one channel for news. We've got all those eyeballs and we've got both sides. Ed Rendell told us, told me that we were by far the fairest. Hillary told me the same thing -- Hillary Clinton -- and Terry McAuliffe thanked us for the coverage and then said, yeah, 90% of the media's in the bag for Barack Obama. So, you know, all that's coming back to haunt them probably, the Clintons. You know, they like to put the toothpaste back in the tube and just, you know -- because media-wise they would like to start over.

GLENN: I know. I mean, I have to tell you, Steve, I mean, part of the reason, you know, I went over to Fox is because, you know, I think there has to be somebody that takes a stand and says -- you know, I don't want to be a sacrificial lamb, not that I've got any indication that I would but I think this administration, if anyone in the media turns on this administration, I mean, we're all going to be called hate mongers, racists. I mean, it doesn't matter. They are going to do everything they can to destroy us.

DOOCY: Well, and the key is everybody, regardless of political strife, we want our President to succeed.

GLENN: We do.

DOOCY: Because we want to succeed. That's where we are right now. We're starting to scratch. This guy, let's pray that he does a fantastic job.

GLENN: Yeah, I just had this argument with somebody just last night and they were, "You know, Barack Obama." And I said, if he succeeds, if the economy turns around and there's peace on Earth, we all win. How can you possibly be not for that? Because you want to be right?

DOOCY: I know, I am completely with you on that, Glenn. You are exactly right. It's about us. Look, every -- the country is split down the middle and even though there are more conservatives than there are liberals, this time around the independents swung it toward the blue side. We all want it to work out. We all want a great, you know, "Oh, I can hardly waiting for four years or eight years down the pike and then we'll get another shot at it." You know, forget about that. We could all get hit by a bugs this afternoon, driven...

GLENN: Driven by who?

DOOCY: Wolf Blitzer.

GLENN: Now, come on, don't pick on Wolfy. I like Wolf.

DOOCY: I like him a lot.

GLENN: I like him a lot. He's a good man. Okay, I was just playing some audio of this teacher. I think you've seen this teacher from that Finnish?

DOOCY: Yeah.

GLENN: You know, Steve, I just said our children are being indoctrinated like crazy on all topics and I remembered that the things that really count in my life I learned from my father. Your book, Tales From the Dad Side, when you write this or when you wrote this, was this something that you thought of as -- I mean, tell me your approach on the family, why it's important.

DOOCY: Well, you know, Glenn, there's always a lot of interest in a lot of -- the mother is always highlighted and she does do a fantastic job but the dad is oftentimes the unsung hero who does all sorts of things. I know when I was writing this book, I was thinking back and I know you've just written a great new book I can hardly wait to open up, as you look back on your life as well. And I was thinking about my own father and one of the most powerful things that I can remember as a child was seeing my father, the strongest man in the world, it was probably about eight years old and I saw my dad, the motor blew out of our car and we were poor back then and I knew there was no way to fix it and we were waiting at the gas station to get the estimate and the guy said $300 and my dad said, well, I don't have the money but I've got to get these three kids home, so go ahead and do it. I saw him walk outside and he just stood there under a tree and I felt bad for him but I walked over to him and there was a tear on the cheek of my father and a kid never forgets that. And when I was writing this book, Glenn, I asked my daughter Sally, I said, now Sally, I know you saw me cry once before, the day my mom died, which was Christmas day my mom died. I said, I know you saw me cry that day but have you ever seen me cry? And she thought about it for a little while and she said, "Dad, I have seen you cry." When? "Well, when you took us to Shrek." And she was exactly right. There's something about those Disney classics, they just push our buttons.

GLENN: I just, I mean, jeez. Your dad would slap you across the face.

DOOCY: No, you know what? He has softened. He came to visit us a couple of weeks ago and we were sitting in the TV room watching something. My wife walked in and there were my dad and me. We were both crying. Tears coming down. I shouldn't say crying. Just tearing up a little bit. She thought it was a little awkward and then she realized we were watching a Hallmark ad. Those things will do it to you, too.

GLENN: Holy cow, Steve Doocy. Now we know. Steve, thank you very much. We'll talk to you, man.

DOOCY: Have a great weekend.

GLENN: By the way, the name is Steve Doocy, it's Tales From the Dad Side. A lot of laughs and a lot of things you'll recognize from your own life. Steve Doocy from Fox and we'll see you next week, Steve.

DOOCY: Thank you, sir.

The Senator

11-07-2008, 04:11 PM

Yeah, Steve Doocy, he's a real Hatemongering Righty:

That's not the accusation at all :huh:

SuBe

11-07-2008, 04:12 PM

BlackLantern

11-07-2008, 04:12 PM

I didn't know that Doocy and Glenn blew....I mean knew each other like that

The Senator

11-07-2008, 04:20 PM

Well, I haven't seen that. What show was it on? Were the "Bright Future" in Quotes?

I don't know which show it was on, but it aired sometime after noon the other day:

http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/191280/palinbrightfuture450.jpg

Superman4ever

11-07-2008, 05:17 PM

Name one reporter from Fox News that show any bias at all. Just one.

Well what about this guy:

KTkqosRiyYo

He's "reporting" the facts right?

Bathead

11-07-2008, 06:05 PM

I don't know that this video shows his bias, just that he's maybe a litle dim.

danielisthor

11-07-2008, 06:08 PM

I suspect Fox hired him so they could point to him and say "See, we're not biased!"

I thought that was Colmes position.

BlackLantern

11-07-2008, 06:12 PM

I thought that was Colmes position.

his position is bent over the desk while Hannity froths at the mouth and yells about America....

danielisthor

11-07-2008, 07:08 PM

his position is bent over the desk while Hannity froths at the mouth and yells about America....

that's funny.

Actually, I always thought that Colmes job was to be the evil democrat, because frankly, he looks devilish with those glasses. It must be difficult for him to take that paycheck and not get to say anything with Hannity.

The Major

11-09-2008, 09:12 PM

that's funny.

Actually, I always thought that Colmes job was to be the evil democrat, because frankly, he looks devilish with those glasses. It must be difficult for him to take that paycheck and not get to say anything with Hannity.

Fox must pay him well to be Hannity's pet.

Silk Spectre

11-09-2008, 10:16 PM

He wears too much makeup. I know all people on camera do, but good lord his is plastered on like a pageant queen.

hippie_hunter

11-09-2008, 10:22 PM

Is that because you agree with CNN's Bias? So Fox is "doucher" than CNN because they have right leaning Commentators?
The biggest flaw in the arguments about bias in the major news networks is when people complain about the bias (particularly with Fox News) they don't have a problem with bias, it just doesn't agree with their personal biases.

It's such a hypocritical argument IMO.

The Chairman

11-09-2008, 10:46 PM

Of course, I'm not even talking about reporters vs. commentators when it comes to overt bias. My example included a graphic produced during a "news" segment which claimed that Sarah Palin had a bright future ahead of her. Tell me that isn't biased...

Also, on O'Reilly's radio show the morning after Election Day, they aired a clip of an Obama speech and over it played CCR'S "Bad Moon Rising." Classy.

That being, Shephard Smith has his head screwed on straight, which is more than anything I can say about anyone else at Faux News.

Nivek

11-10-2008, 09:30 AM

Thius thread is entertaining as Hell.

"Fox isn't biased! Name one reporter thats got an Obvious Bias?"

Great stuff.

StorminNorman

11-10-2008, 10:57 AM

Evil? No.

Overtly biased? More biased than any other news network out there? Absolutely.

I think it can be summed up best by a headline I saw the other day, as FOX was reporting on Sarah Palin's return to Alaska. The headline read "Palin returns to Alaska with bright future ahead of her," as the "Fair and Balanced" logo spun in the right-hand corner of the screen.

If that isn't extremely biased, I don't know what the hell is...

Fox News was labeled by the Project for Excellence in Journalism as the most fair Election Coverage.

http://www.journalism.org/node/13437

StorminNorman

11-10-2008, 10:59 AM

Also my favorite Shep Smith story involved him interviewing a religious prophet who believed in a apocalypse causing nuclear baby being born. About halfway through the interview Shepard Smith basically said that was enough and called out Fox News for even putting the guy on the air - he called it "irresponsible" that he was forced to give him a venue to spread his ridiculous rantings and called the guy a fraud to his face.

Shep Smith is Anderson Cooper with balls.

StorminNorman

11-10-2008, 11:03 AM

Fox had most balanced election coverage.

http://www.journalism.org/node/13437

The Overlord

11-10-2008, 11:07 AM

Name one reporter from Fox News that show any bias at all. Just one.

What about the time a Fox caption that reported that Mark Foley was a Democrat?

I think some conservatives think that any network that treats evolution as a fact is biased. :oldrazz:

ChrisBaleBatman

11-12-2008, 02:39 PM

Smith has gone rouge.

Cool.

The Senator

11-12-2008, 02:47 PM

Fox News was labeled by the Project for Excellence in Journalism as the most fair Election Coverage.

http://www.journalism.org/node/13437

And yet... images such as the one I posted above seem to refute that opinion...

ChrisBaleBatman

11-12-2008, 02:49 PM

Fox News is being so fair....that they're accusing Obama of being a dictator...before he's even taken power?

I have a feeling Hanity and O'Reily won't survive the four years he's in office. 8 days, he's not in power....and they're losing they're minds.

How they can even accuse Obama of abuse of power before he even has power while supporting Bush for 8 years....is a mind**** so hard I think most would have internal bleeding just for trying to make sense of it.

Heretic

11-12-2008, 02:51 PM

I dont care how odd Shep Smih looks, that Bill Hemmer (spelling???) guy with his big fake smile is ten times creepier.

StorminNorman

11-12-2008, 05:38 PM

And yet... images such as the one I posted above seem to refute that opinion...

I don't see how it is at all bias to say that a young politician with a large following coming from obscurity having a "bright future" is biased at all.

Was it biased for the countless of media outlets to say Barack had a "bright future" after his 2004 speech? "Bright future" is a term thrown around when any young politician does something noteworthy.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-12-2008, 05:41 PM

Yeah....but her bright future is probably like 4 years down the road.

That's one helluva prediction on they're part really.

StorminNorman

11-12-2008, 05:47 PM

Not really.

If Stevens keeps his seat through the election - but is then taken out by the Senate, we could have Senator Palin.

StorminNorman

11-12-2008, 05:47 PM

I also believe that if Palin wants 2012 - she needs that Senator position.

The Major

11-12-2008, 05:49 PM

Smith has gone rouge.

Cool.

He's a maverick! :D

The Senator

11-12-2008, 09:00 PM

Not really.

If Stevens keeps his seat through the election - but is then taken out by the Senate, we could have Senator Palin.

That is looking highly unlikely at this point. Mark Begich has a narrow lead over Ted Stevens right now (3 votes), with over 45,000 ballots remaining to be counted. Begich managed to close a 3,000 vote gap, and ballots from the most "liberal" parts of Alaska have yet to be counted.

It looks like the Democrats will gain another seat in the Senate, and Palin will have to actually-- :eek:-- do... her... JOB as governor for the next two years.

The Senator

11-12-2008, 09:10 PM

I don't see how it is at all bias to say that a young politician with a large following coming from obscurity having a "bright future" is biased at all.

Was it biased for the countless of media outlets to say Barack had a "bright future" after his 2004 speech? "Bright future" is a term thrown around when any young politician does something noteworthy.

Can you provide me with a graphic or transcript from a NEWS segment which stated this about Obama? :huh:

Because as far as I can tell, no one knows what kind of future Sarah Palin has. Polls show the majority of voters this election view her unfavorably. Polls show that many Americans felt her presence on the Republican ticket was harmful to McCain's candidacy. Many Republicans feel she is a polarizing figure, many Democrats will flat-out refuse to vote for her, and most independents were up in the air on what to think about her.

I wouldn't even say she has a "large" following. Cult following? That's actually a better term to use.

So to say that Palin has a "bright future" is anything but objective. She has a future ahead of her, that's for sure... but I wouldn't even go as far to say she has a "bright" future, and I'm certain a good majority of voters hope that her future involves skinning moose while she watches the sun set over Eastern Russia.

C.F. Kane

11-12-2008, 09:20 PM

Why we should love Fox News (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/11/AR2008111102257.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)

Excel

11-12-2008, 09:23 PM

Palin has a very bright future; you wouldnt know it from how horrible she was mishandled by the McCain folks.

Palin quirky style appeals to the common person, even if she really isnt lik that (at all really) and she has undeniable star power and commands attention.

On her own she preformed very well to boot, at the convention speech, she did decent enough in the debate with audiences though I personally thought on issues she did horrible...I wouldnt be AT ALL surprised if she runs in 2012 and kicks ass in debates or interviews simply because she has appeal to people. She wont win in 2012, I doubt she would even the nomination because she is easy to attack, but no doubt she will be a force within a few years.

Excel

11-12-2008, 09:25 PM

Many Republicans feel she is a polarizing figure

right now

many Democrats will flat-out refuse to vote for her

Quite the shocker isnt it :p

and most independents were up in the air on what to think about her.

I wouldn't even say she has a "large" following. Cult following? That's actually a better term to use.

She attracts attention, thats undeniable and the fact that its media attention is even better.

We need to remember it was mere months ago many people here (including you, Jman, if I recall correctly) were Hillary supporters who said theyd never vote for Obama.

Times and circumstances change, and to be honest I think Palin has a lot of potential.

Excel

11-12-2008, 09:27 PM

Name one reporter from Fox News that show any bias at all. Just one.

That hot blonde named Meghan :o

Superman4ever

11-12-2008, 09:31 PM

Fox had most balanced election coverage.

http://www.journalism.org/node/13437

:whatever:

*AHEMRefers you back to the first postAHEM*
KTkqosRiyYo

The Major

11-12-2008, 09:41 PM

Palin has a very bright future; you wouldnt know it from how horrible she was mishandled by the McCain folks.
Palin is a big girl. She should take responsibility for every word she says.

She did agree to those handlers suggestions, after all.

Palin quirky style appeals to the common person, even if she really isnt lik that (at all really) and she has undeniable star power and commands attention.

Her star power is laughable compared to Obama.

On her own she preformed very well to boot,

Like how she called Obama a terrorist at her rallies?

at the convention speech,

Where the media and public didn't know her, she had no expectations and the press hadn't been going on the attack? They were falling over themselves to compliment her. her speech was decent, but the press acted like she was the second coming.

she did decent enough in the debate with audiences though I personally thought on issues she did horrible...

How was she anywhere near decent with the debates?

I wouldnt be AT ALL surprised if she runs in 2012 and kicks ass in debates or interviews simply because she has appeal to people.

I'd watch these debates and interviews.

It'll be comedy gold.
She wont win in 2012, I doubt she would even the nomination because she is easy to attack,

Agreed.

but no doubt she will be a force within a few years.

She'd better put those 4 years to good use. She'll need every minute of them.

The Senator

11-12-2008, 09:48 PM

Quite the shocker isnt it :p

If Palin hopes to win a national election, she needs to gain the support of people who supported Barack Obama this time around. And considering she just ran in a national election and voters overwhelmingly rejected her, I would say she has a pretty steep hill to climb.

Of course, I like to think of ways she can try to appeal to Obama supporters in four to eight years. Palin can start by ending her "mean" side and trying to trash her opponents because of the connections they keep. After all, while Obama may "pal around with terrorists," Sarah Palin sleeps with a secessionist. Not only is her rhetoric trite, but it is also hypocritical, and many voters don't like it when politicians act that way.

The Major

11-12-2008, 09:53 PM

She attracts attention, thats undeniable and the fact that its media attention is even better.

Then she should get her own tv show.

We need to remember it was mere months ago many people here (including you, Jman, if I recall correctly) were Hillary supporters who said theyd never vote for Obama.
Hillary is more of a woman and politician then Palin will ever be IMO.

I may not agree with her on many things but Hillary gets my respect.

It was quite easy for Hillary supporters to move to Obama because they have many things in common. This is not possible with Palin.

StorminNorman

11-13-2008, 01:28 PM

Can you provide me with a graphic or transcript from a NEWS segment which stated this about Obama? :huh:

After a good while searching I have not seen any graphics or transcripts but that has more to do with the fact that "Barack Obama Bright Future" is hardly a limited search. Even "Barack Obama Bright Future Convention 2004" brings up almost nothing actually dated from 2004.

But yes, nearly every report of the speech talked about the Senator candidate who has a bright future in the Democratic Party. It was THE speech at the time. It would be ridiculous to say anything BUT Barack Obama had a bright future.

Because as far as I can tell, no one knows what kind of future Sarah Palin has. Polls show the majority of voters this election view her unfavorably. Polls show that many Americans felt her presence on the Republican ticket was harmful to McCain's candidacy. Many Republicans feel she is a polarizing figure, many Democrats will flat-out refuse to vote for her, and most independents were up in the air on what to think about her.

Four years is a long way away.

You can not deny, however, that she is a politician that people are fascinated by. She brought in unprecedented numbers for the VP debate, she lit up the ratings for the RNC Convention, she gave SNL top audiences.

While yes - you only have one chance to make a first impression, it was NOT her first impression that killed her but the impression there after. After her speech as the RNC she was seen by half of the country as MORE experienced than Barack Obama. I don't think it will be hard at all to revive her name - she is doing a good job of that right now, IMO.

I wouldn't even say she has a "large" following. Cult following? That's actually a better term to use.

Then you are ignoring the obvious. Again - look at the ratings she brought in.

So to say that Palin has a "bright future" is anything but objective. She has a future ahead of her, that's for sure... but I wouldn't even go as far to say she has a "bright" future, and I'm certain a good majority of voters hope that her future involves skinning moose while she watches the sun set over Eastern Russia.

No, to say she has anything BUT a bright future is anything but objective. She has become the front runner for 2012, she has become a headliner for the party and I think most are going to be willing to chalk her performance up at times in the 2008 Election to McCain's mishandling of her - the seeds were already placed when reports started to come in about her disagreeing with McCain campaign people before the election.

StorminNorman

11-13-2008, 01:28 PM

Hillary is more of a woman then Palin will ever be IMO.

This comment is beyond ridiculous and stupid.

Excel

11-13-2008, 01:34 PM

Palin is a big girl. She should take responsibility for every word she says.

Why? :huh:

She did agree to those handlers suggestions, after all.

She wanted to be VP, what else was she going to do? Her handlers wouldnt let her be interviewed and the ones they let her go on were terrible choices.

Her star power is laughable compared to Obama.
Not saying much as Obamas the only ones in front of politics wise.

Like how she called Obama a terrorist at her rallies?
It made people come out and see her, something McCain couldnt say.

Where the media and public didn't know her, she had no expectations and the press hadn't been going on the attack? They were falling over themselves to compliment her. her speech was decent, but the press acted like she was the second coming.

Maybe on Fox, she was getting trashed everywhere else at the begining.

How was she anywhere near decent with the debates?
That stupid folksy crap and winks make those people like joe the plumber; people without high school or college diplomas who dont make very much money like her and give her their vote because they dont know any better.

I'd watch these debates and interviews.

It'll be comedy gold.

For intelligent viewers, maybe.

Kurosawa

11-13-2008, 02:03 PM

This comment is beyond ridiculous and stupid.

Hillary is a thousand times the everything Sarah Palin is except in the looks department.

A bright political future for Palin=a dark day for America.

Marx

11-13-2008, 02:37 PM

Maybe the "Evil" Fox News wasn't as bad as some people thought?

No, that's not it.

Did someone just say 'Lou Dobbs', because that means God will have to kill a kitten.

:lmao:

Heretic

11-13-2008, 02:37 PM

Though i dont think palin was even remotely experienced enough to be president, most of the criticisms against her have been shown to be false. I know a girl who cant stand her because she tried to ban Harry Potter and all of that other stuff...and now that every single reason for her to despise her has been proven wrong, she says "I just hate her, I dont need a reason". I mean...sure...the woman was a newcomer and had no business being in the position she was placed in...but the outright hatred of her is kind of misplaced. I just think shes not competent.

Marx

11-13-2008, 02:39 PM

Heretic

11-13-2008, 02:45 PM

Her positions on policy are more than enough reason to despise.

Shes big on drilling in the US and alternative energy, and shes always talking about helping challenged kids. Shes for lower taxes, I know. Otherwise, shes a talking head that didnt seem to bright on a lot of things. Not sure how that makes her evil.

Marx

11-13-2008, 02:57 PM

Shes big on drilling in the US and alternative energy, and shes always talking about helping challenged kids. Shes for lower taxes, I know. Otherwise, shes a talking head that didnt seem to bright on a lot of things. Not sure how that makes her evil.

I never said that she was evil. All I am saying is that people have very valid reasons to dislike her.

- She cut the budgets for children with disabilities and unwed teen mothers despite claiming to be for it.

- She supprted measures that required rape victims to pay for their own rape kits.

- She is against abortion in all cases, including rape and incest. She also believes Roe V. Wade should be overturned.

- She claims to be for women's rights despite not supporting 'equal pay for equal work'.

- She claims to value diversity despite her standing on gay rights.

- She claims to be above 'corruption and greed' despite being found guilty in her own abuse of power case.

(Not to mention all of the garbage she spewed on the campaign trail.)

I could really go on and on.

Hobodeluxe

11-13-2008, 03:18 PM

Fox News was labeled by the Project for Excellence in Journalism as the most fair Election Coverage.

http://www.journalism.org/node/13437

what that "study" fails to show is the correlation with negative campaigning that negative reporting on the campaign has.

for example one campaign was mostly positive. about hope and change.
the other was primarily a character assassination. (terrorist,Muslim,not a "real American", Socialist,Marxist etc)

When doing a statistical analysis you also have to look at the situations.

Is reporting on the negative campaigning actually negative reporting?

Marx

11-13-2008, 03:21 PM

I pop in today and see that StorminNorman is now a girl called 'StormyNormy' who lives in Candy Land!?!?!?? What the heck is going on on the Hype! :huh:

StorminNorman

11-13-2008, 05:39 PM

Hillary is a thousand times the everything Sarah Palin is except in the looks department.

A bright political future for Palin=a dark day for America.

...

...

No, its not worth it.

what that "study" fails to show is the correlation with negative campaigning that negative reporting on the campaign has.

for example one campaign was mostly positive. about hope and change.
the other was primarily a character assassination. (terrorist,Muslim,not a "real American", Socialist,Marxist etc)

When doing a statistical analysis you also have to look at the situations.

Is reporting on the negative campaigning actually negative reporting?

LOL, I love the way you put "study" in quotes as if it doesn't count. Yes - ignore the fact that an INDEPENDENT study found that Fox News was more fair than any of the other networks. Ignore the fact that Hillary Clinton's campaign (hardly apart of a right wing conspiracy) praised Fox News for their objectiveness. I would hate to actually threaten your view on the world with reality.

I pop in today and see that StorminNorman is now a girl called 'StormyNormy' who lives in Candy Land!?!?!?? What the heck is going on on the Hype! :huh:

All I will say is the Hype Admins are abusing their ability to modify profiles. :csad:

The Major

11-13-2008, 06:32 PM

LOL, I love the way you put "study" in quotes as if it doesn't count. Yes - ignore the fact that an INDEPENDENT study found that Fox News was more fair than any of the other networks.

Who made that study?

Ignore the fact that Hillary Clinton's campaign (hardly apart of a right wing conspiracy) praised Fox News for their objectiveness.

Hillary was in an election.

She needed all the votes she could get.

I would hate to actually threaten your view on the world with reality.

Is this the same reality where Fox News calls Mark Foley, Larry Craig and Ted Stevens Democrats?

StorminNorman

11-13-2008, 06:46 PM

Who made that study?

The Study for Excellence in Journalism.

Hillary was in an election.

She needed all the votes she could get.

Even after the fact?

Is this the same reality where Fox News calls Mark Foley, Larry Craig and Ted Stevens Democrats?

Misstatements are made all the time.

The Major

11-13-2008, 06:59 PM

The Study for Excellence in Journalism.

How's their credibility?

Even after the fact?

Can you give me a link to this? What circumstances were they that she said it?

Misstatements are made all the time.

Not on CNN or MSNBC.

These are far from misstatements, too. They cover up the party of an administration Fox is aligned with and taint the perception from their opposition party in one move. How convenient for the Republicans.

StorminNorman

11-13-2008, 07:45 PM

How's their credibility?

PEW Research is very highly regarded. It is well known as a Non-Advocacy group.

Can you give me a link to this? What circumstances were they that she said it?

Hard to find off hand but here is a statement by Ed Randel about Fox News's coverage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/31/clinton-surrogate-ed-rend_n_94280.html

Not on CNN or MSNBC.

These are far from misstatements, too. They cover up the party of an administration Fox is aligned with and taint the perception from their opposition party in one move. How convenient for the Republicans.

LOL, a "Cover up"? "Taints the perception of the opposition party?" Please, a single misstatement is not a conspiracy. It's would start diving into the area of "cover up" if Fox repeteadly made the mistake.

Also trying to defend MSNBC is laughable http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94DQU5O0&show_article=1

Bathead

11-13-2008, 09:46 PM

Corrrect me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Pew report was not what news organizations had the most balanced reporting, but the ratio of negative reports to positive in regard to each candidate. The fact that most news organizations had a higher negative to positive report ratio about McCain than Obama, and Fox's ratio was dead even (40% of reports were negative about each candidate) doesn't necessarily mean that Fox isn't biased. It just means they did not make as many negative reports about McCain, my reading being that they deliberately ignored those negative reports. The report itself never said anything about Fox being "fair and balanced" that was just the spin Fox put on it.

StorminNorman

11-13-2008, 09:50 PM

Corrredt me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Pew report was not what news organizations had the most balanced reporting, but the ratio of negative reports to positive in regard to each candidate. The fact that most news organizations had a higher negative to positive report ratio about McCain than Obama, and Fox's ratio was dead even (40% of reports were negative about each) candidate) doesn't necessarily mean that Fox isn't biased. It just means they did not make as many negative reports about McCain, possibly that they deliberately ignored them. The report itself never said anything about Fox being "fair and balance" that was just the spin Fox put on it.

Wait...I don't understand the logic.

The study said that Fox News reported as many negative studies for McCain as it did for Obama - opposed to CNN and MSNBC reporting a disproportionate number of negative stories about McCain than they did Obama.

Doesn't that indicate Fair coverage?

The Major

11-13-2008, 10:04 PM

Wait...I don't understand the logic.

The study said that Fox News reported as many negative studies for McCain as it did for Obama - opposed to CNN and MSNBC reporting a disproportionate number of negative stories about McCain than they did Obama.

Doesn't that indicate Fair coverage?

Did they ever do a report on Fox News negative coverage of Democrats and Republicans over a past few years?

That would be more accurate then this single election cycle.

Bathead

11-13-2008, 10:05 PM

Not necessarily. My thinking is, if candidate A does 10 negative things, and candidate B does only 4 negatives, then those who reports mirror that ratio are representing the facts, the one that only reports 4 out of 10 of candidate A's negatives and all 40 of B's is not and are the ones showing a bias. Again, the report was not about which network was less biased, but the ratio of negative reports to positive. I'm just saying, MSNBC and CNN reported more negatives about McCain becasue there were more, and that Fox chose to ignore those reports because they were biased towards McCain.

The Major

11-13-2008, 10:29 PM

I'd like to see a negative study of Fox News during Bush's administration.

p4poetic

11-14-2008, 01:19 AM

Evil? No.

Overtly biased? More biased than any other news network out there? Absolutely.

I think it can be summed up best by a headline I saw the other day, as FOX was reporting on Sarah Palin's return to Alaska. The headline read "Palin returns to Alaska with bright future ahead of her," as the "Fair and Balanced" logo spun in the right-hand corner of the screen.

If that isn't extremely biased, I don't know what the hell is...

I never understood it either.

Great read (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly).

Armand Z Trip

11-14-2008, 09:25 AM

Media bias? Shep ain't havin' it!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD0aPUyBRXg

BlackLantern

11-14-2008, 10:59 AM

I still think Fox News sticks out more than it should because the other outlets lean left....let's look at MSNBC...they have Olbermann, Maddow, and Mr. Hardball....

Marx

11-14-2008, 11:01 AM

I still think Fox News sticks out more than it should because the other outlets lean left....let's look at MSNBC...they have Olbermann, Maddow, and Mr. Hardball....

MSNBC is pretty much the liberal equivalent of FOX News. CNN is fairly objective. And FOX News...well, it's FOX News.

The Major

11-14-2008, 11:12 AM

MSNBC is pretty much the liberal equivalent of FOX News.

I disagree.

They have quite a few Republicans anchors, though they're mostly harmless except for Tucker Carlson (who got more opportunities then he deserved to host shows), Joe Scarborough and his sidekick Mika.

The left are far more credible and intelligent then their Fox News counterparts, too. They don't cut off opponent's microphones in a debate, either.

It is very rare that they screw up, especially with politics.

They don't falsely call corrupt Democrats Republicans.

Their analysts are very good and from both sides. They even let Pat Buchanan get a lot of air time!

Marx

11-14-2008, 11:15 AM

I disagree.

They have quite a few Republicans anchors, though they're mostly harmless except for Tucker Carlson (who got more opportunities then he deserved to host shows), Joe Scarborough and his sidekick Mika.

The left are far more credible and intelligent then their Fox News counterparts, too. They don't cut off opponent's microphones in a debate, either.

It is very rare that they screw up, especially with politics.

They don't falsely call corrupt Democrats Republicans.

Their analysts are very good and from both sides. They even let Pat Buchanan get a lot of air time!

I never said that MSNBC wasn't more credible than FOX News. In my opinion, there are tabloids with more credbility than FOX. All I'm saying is that in the grand scheme of things, MSNBC is very much on the left.

The Major

11-14-2008, 11:18 AM

I never said that MSNBC wasn't more credible than FOX News. In my opinion, there are tabloids with more credbility than FOX. All I'm saying is that in the grand scheme of things, MSNBC is very much on the left.
I agree.

Though I wouldn't consider them Fox News left wing counterpart. They'd have to be more extreme for that analogy.

Marx

11-14-2008, 11:19 AM

I agree.

Though I wouldn't consider them Fox News left wing counterpart. They'd have to be more extreme for that analogy.

Fair enough. I concede the point Major. :cwink:

BlackLantern

11-14-2008, 11:22 AM

I agree.

Though I wouldn't consider them Fox News left wing counterpart. They'd have to be more extreme for that analogy.

The Onion maybe?? :oldrazz:

StorminNorman

11-14-2008, 11:35 AM

I agree.

Though I wouldn't consider them Fox News left wing counterpart. They'd have to be more extreme for that analogy.

So in spite of the fact that an independent journalism study stated that not only was Fox Fair and Balanced, but MSNBC was painfully and insultingly one sided...Fox is still more extreme than MSNBC?

The pure stupidity is outstanding.

BlackLantern

11-14-2008, 11:40 AM

I think because the right is extremely unpopular in the US right now, and Fox does lean right, they get a lot more attention....Hannity still annoys me though

Heretic

11-14-2008, 11:43 AM

Every independent study shows that Fox is more fair and balanced than all of their competitors...but the people who hate Fox WANT all of the news outlets to follow the democratic line, so that the people only hear one side, their side. Therefore, the fact that Fox shows both sides makes them evil and wrong.

You really cant refute the statistics from non partisan, outside groups. Fox is the most fair and balanced...even though most of their hosts are in the republican tank.

BlackLantern

11-14-2008, 11:44 AM

I pay no attention to CNN, save for the occasional glimpse at AC 360....I watch Rachel Maddow because I really don't consider her show a "heavy news show" and its good for background noise when I'm on my laptop....I like Fox for their business programming...I've met both Rachel Maddow and Neil Cavuto...they are pretty nice people

SuBe

11-14-2008, 11:47 AM

BlackLantern

11-14-2008, 11:52 AM

I like him because he puts the burden of information on his guests.....If someone says something about investing or not investing, he will ask them to back up their info....

Holiday

11-14-2008, 11:55 AM

I watch Rachel Maddow because I really don't consider her show a "heavy news show" and its good for background noise when I'm on my laptop....

You're wasting energy. :cmad:

I pretty much stick to CNN. One thing that bothers me though is they're coverage of irrelevant news like if the Obama girls go to private or public school or that his mother-in-law is moving into the White House. I could really care less about those stories.

StorminNorman

11-14-2008, 11:55 AM

I think because the right is extremely unpopular in the US right now, and Fox does lean right, they get a lot more attention....Hannity still annoys me though

Hannity is an asshat.

Heretic

11-14-2008, 12:00 PM

No one is mad at the right...they just think they are. Bushs "far right" positions...such as betraying the free market with the bail out, sending our troops into a war with more pamphlets than bullets, trying to give amnesty to illegals, exploding the federal debt and creating the biggest government ever...these arent right wing philosophies...AT ALL. People are mad at the Republicans (whether they realize it or not) because without Reagan they betrayed conservatism, and then after Newt brought the party back with core Conservative values, they betrayed his vision as well.

The Republicans get what the deserve, and Im all for a total collapse of the party as the Conservatives grow a collective set and abandon the party that has already abandoned them.

BlackLantern

11-14-2008, 12:07 PM

Hannity is an asshat.

Truer words have never been spoken

Marx

11-14-2008, 02:41 PM

Hannity is an asshat.

'Hype! post of the day!' :applaud

The Major

11-14-2008, 08:37 PM

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ChrisBaleBatman

11-17-2008, 03:14 PM

ChrisBaleBatman

11-17-2008, 03:15 PM

Oh, and Colmes begged for a ride to work the next day, because Hannity won't shut up about his damn hybrid that gets wonderful mileage in the city.

Colmes was denied over and over again.

ShadowBoxing

11-18-2008, 10:55 AM

http://www.upcheer.com/images/foxnews/foxnews25.jpg

StorminNorman

11-18-2008, 12:03 PM

:whatever:

*AHEMRefers you back to the first postAHEM*
KTkqosRiyYo

Lets see which is more credible, an extensive study regarding bias in election coverage by a respected and independent group...

or a single clip whose purpose was clearly less about advocacy and more about creating drama where there was none from a group who is very open with the fact they are TRYING to discredit Fox News.

hippie_hunter

11-18-2008, 12:33 PM

Lets see which is more credible, an extensive study regarding bias in election coverage by a respected and independent group...

or a single clip whose purpose was clearly less about advocacy and more about creating drama where there was none from a group who is very open with the fact they are TRYING to discredit Fox News.
Clearly it's the group that is less about advocacy and more about creating drama where there is none and is very open with the fact that they are trying to discredit Fox News.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-18-2008, 02:30 PM

discredit Foxnews?

don't they sorta do that on they're own?

much how like MSNBC does on a lesser level?

Marx

11-18-2008, 02:34 PM

discredit Foxnews?

don't they sorta do that on they're own?

much how like MSNBC does on a lesser level?

I thought FOX News actually had to HAVE credibility before they could be discredited. :cwink:

Meus

11-18-2008, 05:50 PM

Fox News is such a joke it's not even funny anymore

Marx

11-19-2008, 01:15 PM

BILL O'REILLY SMEARS SAN FRANCISCO
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:facepalm

8wid

11-19-2008, 07:47 PM

MSN is a liberal porn shop.
FOX is a conservative propaganda machine.
CNN is a money loving casino.

The Battousai

11-19-2008, 07:57 PM

...8wid is a troll

p4poetic

11-19-2008, 11:27 PM

Darthphere

11-20-2008, 07:36 AM

bell110

11-20-2008, 02:46 PM

Why does it feel like, to me anyways, that conservatives feel that if something isn't "pro-conservative" that it equals "anti-conservative" and "pro-liberal"? This also includes "non-pro-Christian" is "anti-christian" and "non-pro-America" is "anti-America"? And their answer to this supposed bias is to fight back with more bias.

This has irked me about Fox for a while. But it really hit me when I found a site called Conservapedia. As you can probably guess, it's the answer to that evil liberal site Wikipedia. Aparently they feel Wikipedia is liberal, anti-American and anti-Christian. I read Wikipedia alot, and they I don't see any bias. This idea that conservatives have that if you are not with them, your against them is starting to get ridiculous.

The Major

11-20-2008, 02:50 PM

Starting?

ChrisBaleBatman

11-20-2008, 04:14 PM

You know...they could do that EXACT same piece in New York.

The racist undertones are scary too. I mean, black hobos...scared white rich people.

****.

MSNBC gives a better voice to the conservatives than Fox News gives to the liberals. The conservatives who speak on MSNBC make nice arguments and never get disrespected or owned (unless they have it coming), they never get yelled over or have they're mics cut. Alot of the conservatives who speak on MSNBC seem like nice examples of the party, really.

Whereas every liberal I've seen on Fox News constantly gets owned, yelled over and disrespected. I don't watch it often, but sometimes it's just sad. Poor Colmes was told to shut up by a guest the other night. No one cared.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-20-2008, 04:20 PM

Yeah.

I swear to God, Hannity won't shut up about his damn Hybrid Escalade. I'm not an avid viewer, I only surf it every now and again...and everytime he brings up the damn Hybrid Escalade.

Dude! I ****ing get it. You own one. It's good. Shut the **** up already.

And can someone give Colmes his balls back? The dude needs to grow a mustache or get a tatoo or something.

The Major

11-20-2008, 04:27 PM

And can someone give Colmes his balls back? The dude needs to grow a mustache or get a tatoo or something.

Colmes should just move to MSNBC or CNN. He wont be fired or humiliated there for standing up for himself.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-20-2008, 04:43 PM

I can honestly see him getting pushed around in both places, still.

I could see Chris Matthews owning him, even when they would agree.

I honestly, think he's getting paid very very well. That's the only reason I can think of for anyone to suffer that level of embrassment night in and night out.

Holiday

11-20-2008, 04:44 PM

I think Colmes knows what he's doing. Come to work, get treated like a *****, collect a paycheck and go home. Who needs self respect when got money? :oldrazz:

No one should feel bad for him.

The Major

11-20-2008, 04:55 PM

I honestly, think he's getting paid very very well. That's the only reason I can think of for anyone to suffer that level of embrassment night in and night out.

I think Colmes knows what he's doing. Come to work, get treated like a *****, collect a paycheck and go home. Who needs self respect when got money?

No one should feel bad for him.

Agreed.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-20-2008, 04:56 PM

I don't really do, I'm just more embrassed because he sorta fits an image of how conservatives view liberals.

Spineless, geeky, quiet, skinny looking cowards.

The Major

11-20-2008, 04:57 PM

I don't really do, I'm just more embrassed because he sorta fits an image of how conservatives view liberals.

Spinless, geeky cowards.

That's his purpose there, Chris.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-20-2008, 05:00 PM

I know, I know.

I just don't like it....But, meh...

Spider-Bite

11-20-2008, 05:52 PM

The Major

11-20-2008, 06:03 PM

Raegen was guilty of a lot of that too you know. Free market under Raegan? Yeah right. Our federal government grew and grew and grew right along with our debt.

How was it under Bush senior?

BlackestNight

11-20-2008, 06:36 PM

He's even got his own personal punch bag.

The hybrid-human-bat being that is Colmes.

The dude won't even let the guest finish. He had Pickens on the other day, and after Colmes asked a question....much as an interview is supposed to go, Pickens was answering it and he mentioned Rahm Emmanuelle, b/c he had met him and thought he was rather energy concious.

Hannity let out some kind of yelp/sigh and it was like the interview stopped, really. Pickens lost track of what he was saying and I lost interest in the interview. Beautiful trainwreck caused by Hannity, I thought. I barely even watch, but that made it seem very unfun to watch.

ChrisBaleBatman haven’t you noticed that Colmes look eerily like that Sleepwalkers from that old Stephen King Movie.

He's feeding off Hanitys negitive energy so he can feed his mother when he gets Home I tells ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.horror.com.pl/filmy/screeny/3254.jpg=http://www.bradblog.com/Images/AlanColmes.jpg

StorminNorman

11-20-2008, 07:38 PM

My favorite Colmes moment is his role as the Bank Manager in The Dark Knight.

ChrisBaleBatman

11-23-2008, 12:25 PM

....

Fichtner is a badass.

Colmes would explode into a red paste of eye balls and intestines with the sheer thought of meeting Fichtner.

That and I bet you Colmes couldn't carry a shotgun. It'd be too heavy for him.